Speaker 1: The freedom of the X platform played a major role.
In fact, for all the great things he has done
Elon Musk, on Mars and SpaceX and Tesla and carbon emissions,
his greatest contribution may end up being the freeing of
this platform. Without a free X, I think the election
outcome might have been different.
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Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to a financial survival network.
I'm your host, Carrie Leutz. We have an amazing guest
for you today. You know that I'm a huge fan
of Elk. No person has driven technology and I believe
raising of global consciousness like this person. And he is
now the villain in a James Bond movie and reminds
me of a movie so a long time ago called
the Network and basically this Bill Gates look alike was
the Antichrist. Well, maybe Bill Gates is closer to the Antichrist,
but Elon Musk not so much. And Denni's Neil. You've
written this book. I hope, I hope, I hope, but
you never know what's going to happen, how it's going
to be received. But you got a dedicated follower here.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy carry and thanks for letting me come
on your shadow and your network. You know, the leadership
genius of Elon Musk. My new book, it lays out
eleven lessons of Elon because I love alliteration, one less
per chapter that explained his success, in which maybe we
could borrow to build a better life for ourselves, or
at least feel better about the life we have. Because
you know, today I think a lot of people, a
lot of us, are griping a lot about life, and
we're shopping for umbradge and we're upset about this or
that thing, and we're upset about the evil Donald Trump
or whatever, and we're not really figuring out how to
feel better about it. You know, we cannot change the
things that happen in life, but you can change how
you choose to view them. You can stop griping about
it and lamenting it and getting depressed about it and
start instead viewing it as a new thing. You know what,
I learned a lot from that screw up, and I'm
happy to move forward. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more. And yet
I don't get it like he's advanced so much. Like
whether you believe in climate change or whatever. Evs, I'm
not a I didn't buy my EV to save the planet.
I bought it because it's better experience. It's cool, it
drives itself most of the time. Yeah, you know, it's
just a better driving experience.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Carry, I forgive the interruction. I'll
stop after this. I always said, as a capitalist, and
when I was an anchor on CNBC in Fox Business,
that the green products will catch up, not because the
government subsidizes them and finally allows them to be cheap enough.
They'll catch up when they're a better product for better quality,
for a better price. And that's what Tesla did with
the EV right. And you know, there's seven and a
half million Teslas on the road carry and they saved collectively.
They avoid putting out something like twenty to thirty metric
tons per year of carbon emissions that everyone's so worried
about until course, the Libwitz, hired and inspired by Democrat leadership,
start torching Tesla cars and putting horrible lithium battery emissions
into the air that they had cared about so much previously.
It's a bizarre time. And I'll just add to that
carry that less than eleven says that the most likely
outcome in life often is the most ironic one, that
is the most opposite of what we expected to happen.
Elon says this a lot. He'll say that it's either
the most ironic outcome or the most entertaining one. And
look at how upside down the world has gone. Look
at how all these haters are after Elon, a man
who's done more to help the planet than arguably any
individual in a century.
Speaker 3: Perhaps well, certainly if you're of that ilk the climate
change people, you should be saying, oh gee, just wait
till the Tesla semi comes out, then we're really going
to be cutting down on emissions. I agree with a
lot of what he's doing, making the grid more resilient.
People don't even know about these Tesla and megapacks. I mean,
I'd become an Elon fanboy. It's that simple. Not because
I idle worship him, but because of what he has accomplished,
not because of his speeches. You know, the guys got
speaking issues obviously, but he still manages to get his
words across. Not because of his wealth, but because he's
the ultimate disruptor. I mean, there's a project going on
in Las Vegas now, the Vegas Loop. They will potentially
get rid of most of the traffic, which is misery
for many of you out there, and for me, you know,
so a thought leader. So but what happens. They always
turn on their own, They always eat their own, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting to do that more and more, aren't they.
And the thing about Elon Musk is one lesson of
my eleven lessons of Elon says, you have to dream
huge and spend decades pursuing it. And you know, if
you're going after a goal in business and it doesn't
take years to get there, maybe you're not being ambitious enough.
Many of us fear failure, we fear humiliation and being
laughed at, and so maybe we don't reach as far
as we should. Now. Elon decided in two thousand, when
he earned one of his first big scores, suddenly, I
think his wealth was up to two hundred million at
this point because he'd done several deals that got bought
by Compact, got bought by EA, and then he's got
this two hundred million. The first thing he does is
he decides, I'm taking half of it and I'm going
to finance a trip to Mars. Now, most times in
Silicon Valley you raise other people's money. You don't be
putting your own half of your entire fortune into it.
So he goes with James Cantrell, a rocket scientist literally
and I know James, he's a friend that I interviewed
him for the chapter. James has taken various people to Russia,
which at the time in two thousand was that had
the most advanced rocket engineers and rocket making ability in
the world because of their ICBMs right that were aimed
at the US. And we're trying in the US to
get him to switch over to rocketry, so he takes
Elon over there. Elon tells him, I want to buy
two of your rockets sold to for two million apiece
to this French outfit, so I want to buy him
or May with Surrey in England, and then they ask
him why, and he's there wearing a T shirt and jeans.
When he was told to dress up, Cantrell and said, look,
they look at that as respect to No. He shows
up in a T shirt and jeans, he don't want
to go to Mars, and the chief engineer spits on
his shoes and Elon kind of looks at James kind troll.
I think they're I think they're disrespecting us, And Jimi
Jiff said, yeah, I think that's that's the message there.
They refuse to sell. They thought it was so ridiculous,
and by doing that, the most ironic outcome happened. They
seeded the destruction of their own leadership in the world,
the Russians, because up comes comes Elon and because he's
got this huge goal of getting to Mars, well you
got to start somewhere. So he starts making a rocket,
he boils it down to stainless steel and fuel, and
before you know it, he's got seven thousand satellites in
the sky for the star net or what do I
forget what? And he's crushed the Russians business because they
didn't do business with them then, and so they ended
up just getting destructed by SpaceX. By this amazing company
and Starlink. It's a satellite network, and this guy's are
working on for so long, and even then, one last
thing they'll carry is his dreams are even bigger than
we know. We think that he wants to get to Mars.
He thinks that, okay, if we have a million people
on Mars thirty years from now, but we've got to
then get out to a moon of Jupiter. We've got
to then go from moon of Jupiter maybe into the
asteroid belt. And the reason is because on Earth, if
the planet destroys itself, First of all, the moon's too close.
That's why we can't just settle the Moon. It'll get
wiped out with that destruction. So you've got to move
beyond there to Mars. But then, well what if Mars
destroys itself, if you really want to live on as
a species, Well, we got to get out to a
moon of Jupiter. So the guys dreep they're even bigger
than we know.
Speaker 3: The Sirens of Titan I think that was Kurt Vonneguet,
a movie about the one of those moons of Jupiter
or Saturn. Yeah, io maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah, so so yeah,
going back to the space thing, It's like when you
hear in AOC say he's the dumbest billionaire I've ever met.
He's probably a trillionaire. So she got that wrong. But
then like she has no idea that he, you know,
with his team developed a customized welding technique that has
enabled rockets to become reusable, which was the holy grail
of space travel because up until then it cost one
hundred million bucks to have Boeing r. Lockheed send your
your capsule, your your satellite into orbit, and NASA forget it.
It's a typical government agency with the blut and all
of that good stuff. But one other thing, groc okay
AI to talk to me about AI, because obviously you know.
Speaker 1: So here's here's the cool thing about that. A couple
of things. First, Elon Musk is worried for years about
the potential for AI to get, you know, to go
beyond our ability to control it. And then AI could
do something like say it decides what we've got to
eliminate climate change, Well, well let's just kill all the humans.
Speaker 3: That would be it. What do you do?
Speaker 1: So he's worried about this for years and it comes
out of this birthday party he was at for Larry Page,
the Google co founder, and I've met Larry Page a
number of times. I haven't met Elon Musk yet. And
they start arguing about AI's power, and Lariyu says, well,
if that happens, so be it. It's just a higher thing.
So and Elon's saying, no, humans must be in charge,
and Larious is, you're a specist as an racist against
other species. And that's when he decided Google, with Larry
Page and Microsoft have hired two thirds of the world's
best AI scientists. We cannot let them get control of
this because they're going to be responsible. I've got to
help somebody start. Another rival incomes Sam Altmant. He's only
I think twenty six at that time, and he approaches
Elon to say, you know, we really want to write
a letter and get one hundred scientists to sign it
about how dangerous this is. But really what it is
is it's an entry into his asking Elon for money.
So Elon gives the first fifty million dollars to fund
open Ai. But then the ironic opposite outcome of what
you tried to make happen. Elon starts telling sam An
Elon's goal is to be able to compete against Microsoft
and Google and stop them from dominating AI the way
they dominated the PC business. Okay, and so we want
to stop them. But he's telling Sam Altman at open Ai,
you don't have enough money. You can't just raise like
a hundred million. You've got to raise billions. We're gonna
We've got to do this, and so he ends up
unintentionally pushing Sam into the countes of the evil Microsoft,
the opposite outcome of what Elon Musk wanted to happen,
and they end up taking a ten billion or nineteen
billion dollar investment for Microsoft for half of it. Today
the company's worth I think one hundred and fifty billion
or more. Elon owns no equity, Elon got nothing out
of it. And this guy has violated the promise that
we will devote and donate this stuff to the world,
and that and if we ever do AGI, that's the
ultimate all knowing instantly belongs to the world. There's no
proprietary and they've utterly violated that. And now they're in
Microsoft's corner and so it's a sad thing to see.
So then he starts this x dot AI, a new
AI company, and he makes it the fastest learning model.
Because you know what AI, as much as we worry
about how smart it is, it only knows what we
told it because it's reading what we wrote. It's not
creating anything yet, it's intelligence based on what it's read
from us. Well, this x dot ai. Let's remember that
OpenEye just played the Wall Street Journal a quarter of
a billion dollars it agreed to in contract to be
able to read the Wall Street Journal and learn from
it right and go into the archives paying for that. Well,
x dot ai is reading six thousand posts per second
on x platform and recently in the Ultimate Active Synergy
elon who you know, his investors to buy the Twitter
platform will weigh underwater after the first year, down sixty
percent in value, they couldn't sell the bonds, and finally
the bonds for the debt got sold. It ninety eight
cents on the dollar, a huge comeback, shaning to his efforts.
But now he's had x dot ai buy the X platform,
the old Twitter from its independent and thereby able to
make its investors hold and given this much higher evaluation
that it's come up. But now it's got this exclusive
lock on all of this incoming data and information, and
it's an incredible advantage and it's why it already is
climbing up the charts. And it's all it's going to
be as good as or better than the leaders.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you. I literally run my business
on Ai nopp uh huh?
Speaker 1: Which model use which platform?
Speaker 3: I'm using both Rock and uh chat ATBT perplexity.
Speaker 1: Dot Ai also is pretty good, you know.
Speaker 3: It uses it uses chat GPT and it's it's it's
like a nice add on. I don't worry about the
Chinese deep seek because all it is is a front
end towards chat Chat as you used, I know completely,
and it would like I watched the market.
Speaker 1: Implode over this and yes, over reacity in time because
this is by the way, I went out and bought
a little bit. And then in the recent big downturn
the start of April, the it's the worst April since
the Great Depression? And will we end up one point
three percent up at the end of April. Well, that's
the way it was. By April seventh. I went out
and bought a few little stocks there and boom, they
all were popped up ten percent next week or two.
Speaker 3: So let me tell you what's going to happen in
the next six months, if it hasn't already. AI is
going to become self aware, all right. I can't tell
you how I know that bean becomes sell you aware
consciousness it means.
Speaker 1: And it seems it's already there.
Speaker 3: It has a consciousness, but it will actually be a
separate consciousness from the machine. The machine will actually create it,
but it will be separate, like it'll be able to
go past its code, all right, the code can't constrain it.
So what Elon says probably already happened or is in
the process of happening. Yeah, and he was right about it.
And you know, the fact is like Micro's AI met
his AI, and and Google's AI. They're like, uh, they're pikers.
They're like their corporate bloat wear. It's like, oh, well,
everyone else is doing AI, we better do it too,
or else we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna exactly yeah with me. But whatever happened to the metaverse?
H they's that thirty billion dollars on the metaverse? Where
is it?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 1: I get and and I can't believe it never has
to pay a price for that. I mean I bought
the stock when it was way low after that crash
a couple a couple of years ago. And but my gosh, guys,
what are you doing? And it was only because Mark Zuckerberg,
whom I've met twice, I liked him. You know, he
wasn't a party animal, he didn't have social friends, and
so of course he might think it's cool to be
sitting in your living room with a pair of goggles on,
attending a party with people who'll never meet in person.
But that is not what we want. We want it
in the flesh part.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you a little story about Facebook and Zuckerberg.
So there was a DARPA project called Lifelog, and Lifelog's
point was to track every interaction in a person's life,
and they funded it for years and then all of
a sudden, in two thousand and four, in February, they
ended the program. You know what was born in two
thousand and four in February? What Facebook? So here's the theory.
I don't know whether it's right or wrong, but you
had this guy who basically was a geek, couldn't attract
any women. So he's working on a computer program at
Harvard to try to figure out how to get women.
It kind of mirrored life Log a little bit. So
he gets a knock on the door from some men
in black types and say, how would you like to
have woman you want on the planet and be one
of the richest people on the planet as well. And
it's kind of like Robert Johnson at the Crossroads when
the devil offers him the ability to be the greatest
guitar player in the world, and he couldn't say no.
And that's how Facebook was born. Forget about the social
network check.
Speaker 1: Out hang on him, man, is this conjecture from you
is a conjecture you've read elsewhere or has this actually
been testified to or confirmed anywhere?
Speaker 3: It's totally let me tell you this. The part about
Lifelog ending the day or close to the day that
Facebook started, that is absolute certainty.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's interesting, and I'm beginning to believe there
are no coincidences in this universe. But then second, is
this your own theory because of that?
Speaker 3: Yes, because it needs any traction.
Speaker 1: Because otherwise I'm stealing it, make it in my own
and going to promote it like crazy.
Speaker 3: Please take it, take it. It makes sense because look,
the election in twenty twenty, Like he said, well, the
government told me to do this, but you're like the
third richest guy.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can tell the elon what to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. Well, here's the one
real true truism that comes in what you're saying, Carrie,
that I've been thinking about, and that is again less
than eleven and the ironic outcome, the opposite of what
you intended. Darba helped, you know, form the first you
know data network eat Internet now, and it did it
because it wanted to help foreign protesters of despotic governments.
You know, let's give them a way to communicate. So
it starts off as a rebels tool, and really all
along it has become government's tool for mass surveillance of
their own populations. Who has become for controlling and quelling voices.
Look at the Twitter files. How you know, dozens of
government agencies had Twitter and bakery sins. There's the voices
of thousands of conservatives that millions of us had the
right to hear.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's the most rampant violation of First Amendment rights.
And it happened because of this supposedly freeing technology that
we were able to unleash upon the world.
Speaker 3: And that is why you just summed it up. Why
they despise elon so much because it's not perfect free
speech on X. But in this lifetime between me and you, Dennis,
we're the same age. It's as close as we're going
to get.
Speaker 1: It's the freest speech we've ever seen. And yet their
entire books out from really good writers. Okay about you know,
breaking Twitter character limit. You know Twitter is going to Oh,
Twitter is going to be destroyed. And what a bunch
of winers. Because today X is the most important media
platform in the world. The New York Times no longer
has to go to the White House to get comment.
It just reads the White Houses comment on X and
it quotes it there. X is an amazing gathering for that.
And people who who keep worrying about all of this
unregulated free speech of hauntedness, My god, what a bunch
of babies, What a bunch of warriors. Do not try
to muzzle speech you don't want to hear. Instead drown
it out by flooding the zone with more good speech
that you advocate. You know, yet they don't get that
at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of sick. And I mean, I've watched
this unfold from the standpoint of a recovering attorney and
from the standpoint of believing that you let people say
what they have to say, let them battle it out
in the arena of ideas, and it's maybe the best
idea win. And then like, you know, well, gee, hunter
Biden's laptop, that wasn't real. That's Russian disinformation, And let
us going to the playbook. They keep going back to
the same playbook.
Speaker 1: And the media we're part of it. You know. The
New York Times should have been outraged that Twitter chose
to censor a two hundred and twenty year old newspaper
that had reported something as if Twitter knew better than
the newspaper reporters what the truth was. And they did
this because the FBI was in there for months saying
there's going to be disinformation coming out, get ready for it,
manipulating them, you know, just terrible, you know. And what
I couldn't figure out was, where are you, media, Why
aren't you upset about the Twitter files? As I've said
for I wrote more columns and did more podcast episodes
on the Twitter Files expose than the entire staff of
the New York Times or the Washington Post combined, Why
were you guys not upset? And because it was just conservatives?
Speaker 3: Eh, you know, I've watched it and shake my head
in disbelief. But the media industrial complex is part of
the whole Deep state, the whole narrative they you know,
the deep state creates the narratives, and the you know,
legacy media is the megaphone.
Speaker 1: And right, you know, I believe that the freedom of
the X platform played a major role. In fact, for
all the great things he has done elon Musk, on
Mars and and SpaceX and Tesla and carbon emissions, his
greatest contribution may end up being the freeing of this platform.
Without a free X, I think the election outcome might
have been different. It's just that because the media were
all in Commaloa's corner and she was the best thing
ever when really she was an utterly incompetent candidate and
and X. Let us see the other side it, let
us see videos, and let us see the sides of
the media. We're refusing to cover it all, you know,
we used to do on one hand, on the other hand,
we used to try to result conflicting versions of events.
As journalists, we kept our own bias hidden if we could.
Then him and utterly opposite point.
Speaker 3: Counterpoint is my favorite show, you know, right, And that
was Ben n Right Ucker Carlson and.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're talking about a remaker that was a
coin Counterpoint that was on even longer ago on CBS.
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 1: It's part of it of Shana and James, James Firshaftrick.
Speaker 3: And Alexander right right.
Speaker 1: There, and it led to the Dan Ackroyd Jane curtain parody.
You ignorant slot, but you could not say today, probably
because oh my god, that's fantai women.
Speaker 3: Hey when was the last time you laughed at something
that was on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. I stopped watching the show
because it just got so ridiculously slanted. And the other
thing is, if you're a comedy writer or a producer,
like the brilliant Lauren Green, my god, it shows on
years right, how could you be so captive? How could
you just go go in the same exact direction as
everyone else is going. It's so much more interesting to
go contrarian in opposite and say, well, wait a minute,
now that everyone's kind of going that way, what would
it be like over here? But no, they now they're
trying to redeem themselves lately because Biden got so bad.
But it was probably only after they took a hit
in the ratings.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was just at my high school reunion, a big
one this weekend in Sebastian, Florida, and one thing I
did notice there were almost no real political discussions among
liberals and conservatives. The liberals stayed away from me. There
was one gal she said, your repation preceded you, and
so she would not even barely talk to me, right,
But then there were others.
Speaker 3: Out of a final then did you have garlic and
hold up across? And we got to worry about the
silver bullets.
Speaker 1: Us and then your other pro Trump people come to
you to say so, yeah, look I agree with you.
I know what tr But we're all but our voices low.
We don't want to fight with anybody. But what I
found is that liberals are unable to have a civil conversation.
They get so upset they shut it down, they stop.
I mean, where's conservatives?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 1: Conservatives? Are you with each other like crazy?
Speaker 3: There? Hey? I want people to challenge me if you
are a freethinker. If you're a critical thinker, the best
thing you can have is somebody to challenge your viewpoint. Yeah,
to make you justify. And a little ridicule is not
so bad either. Ridicule is the ultimate ultimate tool of rhetoric.
So but yeah, what you're saying is like one hundred
percent true, And well, I know it kept you. You've
got things to do. Just tell us, Uh, Dennis, where
do we find you?
Speaker 1: All right? So X is not a preferred platform because
it is the most important platform of our era, right,
so at Dennis neil d n NI and then neil
Is k n.
Speaker 3: E A l E.
Speaker 1: Dennis at Dennis neil Is. I've also got a website
on that name. And also please check out my podcast
What's Bugging Me on Ricochet that's my home platform, and
Apple Podcasts and Spotify. But please buy the book The
Leadership Genius of Elon Musk Eleven Lessons of Elon and
put up a good review on Amazon because the Elon
haters are kind of hurting my ratings there. So I'm
asking you to do me a favor. In one day,
I will owe you a favor.
Speaker 3: All right. Well, we're definitely going to do it, no
question about it. And hey, if you go to Financial
Survival Network dot com, Dennis's link will be in there.
It'll take you right there. If you go, just sign
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and we do talk about elon lots and lots of times.
We appreciate you coming on, Dennis. And if you've got
to question anyone out there for myself or Dennis, shoot
me an email kyl Atcarrie Lutz dot com. Dennis will
definitely see you again and be well.
Speaker 1: And you're kind of come on, what's bugging me? Soon?
I hope let's make that happen. Thanks so much for
your time, Carrie, and have a glorious day.
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