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Speaker 1: The freedom of the X platform played a major role.

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In fact, for all the great things he has done

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Elon Musk, on Mars and SpaceX and Tesla and carbon emissions,

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his greatest contribution may end up being the freeing of

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this platform. Without a free X, I think the election

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outcome might have been different.

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Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to a financial survival network.

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I'm your host, Carrie Leutz. We have an amazing guest

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for you today. You know that I'm a huge fan

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of Elk. No person has driven technology and I believe

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raising of global consciousness like this person. And he is

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now the villain in a James Bond movie and reminds

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me of a movie so a long time ago called

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the Network and basically this Bill Gates look alike was

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the Antichrist. Well, maybe Bill Gates is closer to the Antichrist,

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but Elon Musk not so much. And Denni's Neil. You've

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written this book. I hope, I hope, I hope, but

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you never know what's going to happen, how it's going

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to be received. But you got a dedicated follower here.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy carry and thanks for letting me come

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on your shadow and your network. You know, the leadership

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genius of Elon Musk. My new book, it lays out

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eleven lessons of Elon because I love alliteration, one less

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per chapter that explained his success, in which maybe we

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could borrow to build a better life for ourselves, or

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at least feel better about the life we have. Because

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you know, today I think a lot of people, a

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lot of us, are griping a lot about life, and

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we're shopping for umbradge and we're upset about this or

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that thing, and we're upset about the evil Donald Trump

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or whatever, and we're not really figuring out how to

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feel better about it. You know, we cannot change the

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things that happen in life, but you can change how

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you choose to view them. You can stop griping about

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it and lamenting it and getting depressed about it and

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start instead viewing it as a new thing. You know what,

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I learned a lot from that screw up, and I'm

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happy to move forward. Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more. And yet

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I don't get it like he's advanced so much. Like

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whether you believe in climate change or whatever. Evs, I'm

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not a I didn't buy my EV to save the planet.

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I bought it because it's better experience. It's cool, it

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drives itself most of the time. Yeah, you know, it's

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just a better driving experience.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Carry, I forgive the interruction. I'll

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stop after this. I always said, as a capitalist, and

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when I was an anchor on CNBC in Fox Business,

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that the green products will catch up, not because the

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government subsidizes them and finally allows them to be cheap enough.

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for a better price. And that's what Tesla did with

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the EV right. And you know, there's seven and a

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half million Teslas on the road carry and they saved collectively.

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tons per year of carbon emissions that everyone's so worried

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about until course, the Libwitz, hired and inspired by Democrat leadership,

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start torching Tesla cars and putting horrible lithium battery emissions

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into the air that they had cared about so much previously.

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carry that less than eleven says that the most likely

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outcome in life often is the most ironic one, that

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is the most opposite of what we expected to happen.

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the most ironic outcome or the most entertaining one. And

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look at how upside down the world has gone. Look

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at how all these haters are after Elon, a man

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who's done more to help the planet than arguably any

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Speaker 3: Perhaps well, certainly if you're of that ilk the climate

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change people, you should be saying, oh gee, just wait

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till the Tesla semi comes out, then we're really going

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lot of what he's doing, making the grid more resilient.

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I'd become an Elon fanboy. It's that simple. Not because

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I idle worship him, but because of what he has accomplished,

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not because of his speeches. You know, the guys got

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speaking issues obviously, but he still manages to get his

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so a thought leader. So but what happens. They always

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my eleven lessons of Elon says, you have to dream

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huge and spend decades pursuing it. And you know, if

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you're going after a goal in business and it doesn't

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take years to get there, maybe you're not being ambitious enough.

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laughed at, and so maybe we don't reach as far

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he earned one of his first big scores, suddenly, I

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think his wealth was up to two hundred million at

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this point because he'd done several deals that got bought

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by Compact, got bought by EA, and then he's got

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this two hundred million. The first thing he does is

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he decides, I'm taking half of it and I'm going

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to finance a trip to Mars. Now, most times in

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him for the chapter. James has taken various people to Russia,

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which at the time in two thousand was that had

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the most advanced rocket engineers and rocket making ability in

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the world because of their ICBMs right that were aimed

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at the US. And we're trying in the US to

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get him to switch over to rocketry, so he takes

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Elon over there. Elon tells him, I want to buy

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two of your rockets sold to for two million apiece

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to this French outfit, so I want to buy him

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or May with Surrey in England, and then they ask

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him why, and he's there wearing a T shirt and jeans.

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they look at that as respect to No. He shows

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up in a T shirt and jeans, he don't want

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to go to Mars, and the chief engineer spits on

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his shoes and Elon kind of looks at James kind troll.

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and by doing that, the most ironic outcome happened. They

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seeded the destruction of their own leadership in the world,

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the Russians, because up comes comes Elon and because he's

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got this huge goal of getting to Mars, well you

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got to start somewhere. So he starts making a rocket,

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he boils it down to stainless steel and fuel, and

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before you know it, he's got seven thousand satellites in

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the sky for the star net or what do I

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forget what? And he's crushed the Russians business because they

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didn't do business with them then, and so they ended

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up just getting destructed by SpaceX. By this amazing company

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and Starlink. It's a satellite network, and this guy's are

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working on for so long, and even then, one last

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thing they'll carry is his dreams are even bigger than

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we know. We think that he wants to get to Mars.

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on Mars thirty years from now, but we've got to

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then get out to a moon of Jupiter. We've got

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asteroid belt. And the reason is because on Earth, if

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the planet destroys itself, First of all, the moon's too close.

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wiped out with that destruction. So you've got to move

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beyond there to Mars. But then, well what if Mars

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destroys itself, if you really want to live on as

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a species, Well, we got to get out to a

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moon of Jupiter. So the guys dreep they're even bigger

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a movie about the one of those moons of Jupiter

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hear in AOC say he's the dumbest billionaire I've ever met.

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He's probably a trillionaire. So she got that wrong. But

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then like she has no idea that he, you know,

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with his team developed a customized welding technique that has

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enabled rockets to become reusable, which was the holy grail

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of space travel because up until then it cost one

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hundred million bucks to have Boeing r. Lockheed send your

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your capsule, your your satellite into orbit, and NASA forget it.

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It's a typical government agency with the blut and all

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of that good stuff. But one other thing, groc okay

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the potential for AI to get, you know, to go

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beyond our ability to control it. And then AI could

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do something like say it decides what we've got to

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eliminate climate change, Well, well let's just kill all the humans.

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the Google co founder, and I've met Larry Page a

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they start arguing about AI's power, and Lariyu says, well,

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if that happens, so be it. It's just a higher thing.

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other species. And that's when he decided Google, with Larry

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best AI scientists. We cannot let them get control of

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this because they're going to be responsible. I've got to

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help somebody start. Another rival incomes Sam Altmant. He's only

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Elon to say, you know, we really want to write

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open Ai. But then the ironic opposite outcome of what

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and Google and stop them from dominating AI the way

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unintentionally pushing Sam into the countes of the evil Microsoft,

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the opposite outcome of what Elon Musk wanted to happen,

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and they end up taking a ten billion or nineteen

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billion dollar investment for Microsoft for half of it. Today

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the company's worth I think one hundred and fifty billion

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or more. Elon owns no equity, Elon got nothing out

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of it. And this guy has violated the promise that

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we will devote and donate this stuff to the world,

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and that and if we ever do AGI, that's the

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ultimate all knowing instantly belongs to the world. There's no

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proprietary and they've utterly violated that. And now they're in

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Microsoft's corner and so it's a sad thing to see.

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AI company, and he makes it the fastest learning model.

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about how smart it is, it only knows what we

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x dot ai is reading six thousand posts per second

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percent in value, they couldn't sell the bonds, and finally

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the bonds for the debt got sold. It ninety eight

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cents on the dollar, a huge comeback, shaning to his efforts.

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the old Twitter from its independent and thereby able to

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make its investors hold and given this much higher evaluation

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that it's come up. But now it's got this exclusive

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lock on all of this incoming data and information, and

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it's an incredible advantage and it's why it already is

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climbing up the charts. And it's all it's going to

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be as good as or better than the leaders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you. I literally run my business

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on Ai nopp uh huh?

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Speaker 1: Which model use which platform?

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Speaker 3: I'm using both Rock and uh chat ATBT perplexity.

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like a nice add on. I don't worry about the

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Chinese deep seek because all it is is a front

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end towards chat Chat as you used, I know completely,

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and it would like I watched the market.

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Speaker 1: Implode over this and yes, over reacity in time because

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this is by the way, I went out and bought

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a little bit. And then in the recent big downturn

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the start of April, the it's the worst April since

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the Great Depression? And will we end up one point

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three percent up at the end of April. Well, that's

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the way it was. By April seventh. I went out

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and bought a few little stocks there and boom, they

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all were popped up ten percent next week or two.

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Speaker 3: So let me tell you what's going to happen in

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the next six months, if it hasn't already. AI is

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going to become self aware, all right. I can't tell

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you how I know that bean becomes sell you aware

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consciousness it means.

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Speaker 1: And it seems it's already there.

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Speaker 3: It has a consciousness, but it will actually be a

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separate consciousness from the machine. The machine will actually create it,

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but it will be separate, like it'll be able to

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go past its code, all right, the code can't constrain it.

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So what Elon says probably already happened or is in

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the process of happening. Yeah, and he was right about it.

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his AI, and and Google's AI. They're like, uh, they're pikers.

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everyone else is doing AI, we better do it too,

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Speaker 1: Gonna exactly yeah with me. But whatever happened to the metaverse?

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H they's that thirty billion dollars on the metaverse? Where

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 1: I get and and I can't believe it never has

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to pay a price for that. I mean I bought

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the stock when it was way low after that crash

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a couple a couple of years ago. And but my gosh, guys,

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what are you doing? And it was only because Mark Zuckerberg,

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whom I've met twice, I liked him. You know, he

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wasn't a party animal, he didn't have social friends, and

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so of course he might think it's cool to be

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sitting in your living room with a pair of goggles on,

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attending a party with people who'll never meet in person.

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But that is not what we want. We want it

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in the flesh part.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you a little story about Facebook and Zuckerberg.

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So there was a DARPA project called Lifelog, and Lifelog's

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point was to track every interaction in a person's life,

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and they funded it for years and then all of

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a sudden, in two thousand and four, in February, they

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ended the program. You know what was born in two

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thousand and four in February? What Facebook? So here's the theory.

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had this guy who basically was a geek, couldn't attract

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any women. So he's working on a computer program at

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Harvard to try to figure out how to get women.

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It kind of mirrored life Log a little bit. So

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he gets a knock on the door from some men

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in black types and say, how would you like to

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have woman you want on the planet and be one

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of the richest people on the planet as well. And

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it's kind of like Robert Johnson at the Crossroads when

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the devil offers him the ability to be the greatest

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guitar player in the world, and he couldn't say no.

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And that's how Facebook was born. Forget about the social

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network check.

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Speaker 1: Out hang on him, man, is this conjecture from you

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is a conjecture you've read elsewhere or has this actually

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been testified to or confirmed anywhere?

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Speaker 3: It's totally let me tell you this. The part about

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Lifelog ending the day or close to the day that

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Facebook started, that is absolute certainty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that's interesting, and I'm beginning to believe there

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are no coincidences in this universe. But then second, is

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this your own theory because of that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because it needs any traction.

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Speaker 1: Because otherwise I'm stealing it, make it in my own

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and going to promote it like crazy.

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Speaker 3: Please take it, take it. It makes sense because look,

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the election in twenty twenty, Like he said, well, the

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government told me to do this, but you're like the

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third richest guy.

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Speaker 1: In the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can tell the elon what to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. Well, here's the one

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real true truism that comes in what you're saying, Carrie,

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that I've been thinking about, and that is again less

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than eleven and the ironic outcome, the opposite of what

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you intended. Darba helped, you know, form the first you

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know data network eat Internet now, and it did it

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because it wanted to help foreign protesters of despotic governments.

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You know, let's give them a way to communicate. So

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it starts off as a rebels tool, and really all

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along it has become government's tool for mass surveillance of

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their own populations. Who has become for controlling and quelling voices.

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Look at the Twitter files. How you know, dozens of

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government agencies had Twitter and bakery sins. There's the voices

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of thousands of conservatives that millions of us had the

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right to hear.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's the most rampant violation of First Amendment rights.

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And it happened because of this supposedly freeing technology that

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we were able to unleash upon the world.

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Speaker 3: And that is why you just summed it up. Why

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they despise elon so much because it's not perfect free

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speech on X. But in this lifetime between me and you, Dennis,

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we're the same age. It's as close as we're going

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to get.

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Speaker 1: It's the freest speech we've ever seen. And yet their

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entire books out from really good writers. Okay about you know,

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breaking Twitter character limit. You know Twitter is going to Oh,

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Twitter is going to be destroyed. And what a bunch

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of winers. Because today X is the most important media

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platform in the world. The New York Times no longer

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has to go to the White House to get comment.

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It just reads the White Houses comment on X and

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it quotes it there. X is an amazing gathering for that.

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And people who who keep worrying about all of this

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unregulated free speech of hauntedness, My god, what a bunch

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of babies, What a bunch of warriors. Do not try

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to muzzle speech you don't want to hear. Instead drown

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it out by flooding the zone with more good speech

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that you advocate. You know, yet they don't get that

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at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of sick. And I mean, I've watched

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this unfold from the standpoint of a recovering attorney and

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from the standpoint of believing that you let people say

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what they have to say, let them battle it out

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in the arena of ideas, and it's maybe the best

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idea win. And then like, you know, well, gee, hunter

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Biden's laptop, that wasn't real. That's Russian disinformation, And let

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us going to the playbook. They keep going back to

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the same playbook.

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Speaker 1: And the media we're part of it. You know. The

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New York Times should have been outraged that Twitter chose

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to censor a two hundred and twenty year old newspaper

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that had reported something as if Twitter knew better than

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the newspaper reporters what the truth was. And they did

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this because the FBI was in there for months saying

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there's going to be disinformation coming out, get ready for it,

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manipulating them, you know, just terrible, you know. And what

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I couldn't figure out was, where are you, media, Why

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aren't you upset about the Twitter files? As I've said

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for I wrote more columns and did more podcast episodes

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on the Twitter Files expose than the entire staff of

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the New York Times or the Washington Post combined, Why

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were you guys not upset? And because it was just conservatives?

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Speaker 3: Eh, you know, I've watched it and shake my head

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in disbelief. But the media industrial complex is part of

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the whole Deep state, the whole narrative they you know,

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the deep state creates the narratives, and the you know,

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legacy media is the megaphone.

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Speaker 1: And right, you know, I believe that the freedom of

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the X platform played a major role. In fact, for

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all the great things he has done elon Musk, on

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Mars and and SpaceX and Tesla and carbon emissions, his

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greatest contribution may end up being the freeing of this platform.

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Without a free X, I think the election outcome might

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have been different. It's just that because the media were

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all in Commaloa's corner and she was the best thing

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ever when really she was an utterly incompetent candidate and

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and X. Let us see the other side it, let

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us see videos, and let us see the sides of

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the media. We're refusing to cover it all, you know,

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we used to do on one hand, on the other hand,

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we used to try to result conflicting versions of events.

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As journalists, we kept our own bias hidden if we could.

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Then him and utterly opposite point.

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Speaker 3: Counterpoint is my favorite show, you know, right, And that

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was Ben n Right Ucker Carlson and.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're talking about a remaker that was a

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coin Counterpoint that was on even longer ago on CBS.

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 1: It's part of it of Shana and James, James Firshaftrick.

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Speaker 3: And Alexander right right.

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Speaker 1: There, and it led to the Dan Ackroyd Jane curtain parody.

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You ignorant slot, but you could not say today, probably

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because oh my god, that's fantai women.

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Speaker 3: Hey when was the last time you laughed at something

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that was on Saturday Night Live?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. I stopped watching the show

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because it just got so ridiculously slanted. And the other

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thing is, if you're a comedy writer or a producer,

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like the brilliant Lauren Green, my god, it shows on

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years right, how could you be so captive? How could

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you just go go in the same exact direction as

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everyone else is going. It's so much more interesting to

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go contrarian in opposite and say, well, wait a minute,

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now that everyone's kind of going that way, what would

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it be like over here? But no, they now they're

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trying to redeem themselves lately because Biden got so bad.

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But it was probably only after they took a hit

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in the ratings.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I was just at my high school reunion, a big

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one this weekend in Sebastian, Florida, and one thing I

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did notice there were almost no real political discussions among

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liberals and conservatives. The liberals stayed away from me. There

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was one gal she said, your repation preceded you, and

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so she would not even barely talk to me, right,

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But then there were others.

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Speaker 3: Out of a final then did you have garlic and

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hold up across? And we got to worry about the

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silver bullets.

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Speaker 1: Us and then your other pro Trump people come to

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you to say so, yeah, look I agree with you.

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I know what tr But we're all but our voices low.

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We don't want to fight with anybody. But what I

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found is that liberals are unable to have a civil conversation.

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They get so upset they shut it down, they stop.

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I mean, where's conservatives?

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Speaker 3: Hell?

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Speaker 1: Conservatives? Are you with each other like crazy?

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Speaker 3: There? Hey? I want people to challenge me if you

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are a freethinker. If you're a critical thinker, the best

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thing you can have is somebody to challenge your viewpoint. Yeah,

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to make you justify. And a little ridicule is not

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so bad either. Ridicule is the ultimate ultimate tool of rhetoric.

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So but yeah, what you're saying is like one hundred

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percent true, And well, I know it kept you. You've

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got things to do. Just tell us, Uh, Dennis, where

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do we find you?

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Speaker 1: All right? So X is not a preferred platform because

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it is the most important platform of our era, right,

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so at Dennis neil d n NI and then neil

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Speaker 3: E A l E.

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Speaker 1: Dennis at Dennis neil Is. I've also got a website

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on that name. And also please check out my podcast

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What's Bugging Me on Ricochet that's my home platform, and

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Apple Podcasts and Spotify. But please buy the book The

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Leadership Genius of Elon Musk Eleven Lessons of Elon and

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put up a good review on Amazon because the Elon

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haters are kind of hurting my ratings there. So I'm

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asking you to do me a favor. In one day,

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I will owe you a favor.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, we're definitely going to do it, no

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question about it. And hey, if you go to Financial

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Survival Network dot com, Dennis's link will be in there.

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It'll take you right there. If you go, just sign

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up for a free newsletter like eighty thousand of you

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already have. You'd appreciate it. A lot of things in there,

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and we do talk about elon lots and lots of times.

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We appreciate you coming on, Dennis. And if you've got

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to question anyone out there for myself or Dennis, shoot

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me an email kyl Atcarrie Lutz dot com. Dennis will

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definitely see you again and be well.

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Speaker 1: And you're kind of come on, what's bugging me? Soon?

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I hope let's make that happen. Thanks so much for

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your time, Carrie, and have a glorious day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial Survival Network, your

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solution to today's trying times. For the latest, go to

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Financial Survivalnetwork dot com. Financial Survival Network now more than

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