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Speaker 3: Welcome to the typical excited.
Speaker 2: Uh We've got my good friend Nate and Size coming
Speaker 2: back on today and uh I'm gonna bring him on
Speaker 2: stage here in a second. And uh, this was kind
Speaker 2: of like an impromptu podcast. We didn't have this plan,
Speaker 2: like you know, it was just something we put together.
Speaker 2: And you know, Nate, I mean prepared. This could go
Speaker 2: long because Nate, Nate, Nate can talk sometimes for a while.
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a good show. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna introduce him to I'll give him
Speaker 2: a proper reduction. But Nate, wait, well I just tried
Speaker 2: to add him. There you go, Nate, we're already live
Speaker 2: on air.
Speaker 4: Oh I figured that.
Speaker 3: I really Yeah, it's good to see you, man, and
Speaker 3: and I'll just give you a proper induction. Guys, I
Speaker 3: have my good friend.
Speaker 2: I got to meet him in person at the last
Speaker 2: year's Full Disclosure Now conference where he gave a flawless
Speaker 2: presentation on the matrix and simulation.
Speaker 3: And it's really good.
Speaker 2: Get too good to guy to know him in these
Speaker 2: last few years. You know, he's a my Lab whistleblower,
Speaker 2: he's an avid conspiracy researcher, he's a fighter for truth,
Speaker 2: and he's a good friend of mine. And his name's
Speaker 2: Nathan Sizzek. And yeah, Nate, thanks so much for coming
Speaker 2: back on man.
Speaker 5: How are you Oh, I'm fine, Rob, and I'm much
Speaker 5: stranger in person for anybody wondering. So anyway, it's wanted
Speaker 5: to say hi to you. It's nice to be here,
Speaker 5: so yeah, just go away, I can talk. Let me
Speaker 5: sick here, all right. You know, when you warm up
Speaker 5: an old computer, it takes forever and then and all
Speaker 5: these pop ups start coming up, you know, for things
Speaker 5: no longer work.
Speaker 2: There's a Polish girl in the audience. She's well, she's
Speaker 2: from Poland, but she lives in Jersey. She wanted to
Speaker 2: know if you're Polish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm Polish. Yes, I'm half Polish. But uh, my
Speaker 5: father and my parents from every one on my father's
Speaker 5: side came from Russia or Russian and basically Russian Polish
Speaker 5: or Polish Russian however you say that, But I don't
Speaker 5: know any of those people because my father basically left
Speaker 5: before I ever met him, so he was gone before
Speaker 5: I was about a year old, so it's kind of
Speaker 5: a mystery.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, you had and blonde hair, so that's Polish.
Speaker 4: I guess did you ever.
Speaker 3: Did you ever link up with Look? You could be
Speaker 3: you could be German.
Speaker 5: You know, he passed away. I know he passed away
Speaker 5: in his early fifties. I'm sure exactly why. I think
Speaker 5: it was. He was a diabetic too, but it was
Speaker 5: something else I don't know, but yeah, just an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 4: I just couldn't really know.
Speaker 5: He existed until I was around to eat, not seven
Speaker 5: or eight, and it was just kind of a family secret,
Speaker 5: I think. I you know, I wasn't even sure how
Speaker 5: I was born. I guess maybe I thought it was
Speaker 5: hatched at that point.
Speaker 3: Wow, So is that why is that why you're real
Speaker 3: close with your mom?
Speaker 5: I remember, well, my mom and I aren as close
Speaker 5: as we should be. So that trip that we took
Speaker 5: was to try to mend things and fix things. But
Speaker 5: you know, her mom raised me, so it was one
Speaker 5: of those things where I was the first child. I
Speaker 5: was born into a family that was kind of split apart,
Speaker 5: and she was seventeen she had me. And how old
Speaker 5: my dad was he was probably around the same age,
Speaker 5: I guess for eighteen, and he was very abusive and
Speaker 5: I had a lot of problems.
Speaker 4: So they split up.
Speaker 5: I got a divorce before I was even probably a
Speaker 5: year old, and then then I went to my I
Speaker 5: went to live I went from there to live with
Speaker 5: my grandmother temporarily was supposed to be able to wind
Speaker 5: up staying there, and my mom remarried, had two more kids,
Speaker 5: and it was kind of like the satellite child. It
Speaker 5: was five minutes away and it was just a sad situation.
Speaker 4: But what can you do? Yeah, really to do the
Speaker 4: best you're feeling it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what's so weird.
Speaker 2: I know what we're gonna be talking about tonight, like
Speaker 2: escaping the simulation and this life that they we find
Speaker 2: ourselves in.
Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of it can be engineered.
Speaker 2: We can encounter a lot of handlers, there can be
Speaker 2: a lot of targeting, there can be a lot of.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's a it's a it's a it's.
Speaker 2: A weird world of duality that I don't even understand
Speaker 2: at forty six years old, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like there are external forces in our life
Speaker 2: all the time. But whether they could be entities, arcons
Speaker 2: or whatever that like that like they like will whisper
Speaker 2: sweet nothings into your head.
Speaker 3: They could be negative or positive.
Speaker 2: And I also feel like these things like read our
Speaker 2: mind and they they make things happen in your life,
Speaker 2: Like they could be like you know, it's almost like
Speaker 2: I don't know, at least for me, it happens like that,
Speaker 2: like not not anything good, like you know, like it's
Speaker 2: always like they always throw like curve balls into my
Speaker 2: life or like you know, that's the only thing I
Speaker 2: can deduce what it is why, like you know, and.
Speaker 3: Then and I don't understand why some people get like
Speaker 3: an easy ride.
Speaker 2: Here in this world where some people have it, like
Speaker 2: you know, it's like problem after problem after problem, and
Speaker 2: it could be any you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of leading into like what
Speaker 2: we're talking about tonight. If I've escaping the simulation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to try to take this further than
Speaker 4: I have before.
Speaker 5: Last time I was here, I touched on something that
Speaker 5: happened to me that was very important to me and
Speaker 5: something that needed to happen for I could escape the matrix.
Speaker 5: So I want to go back into that tonight and
Speaker 5: try to really talk about it without getting emotional. I
Speaker 5: don't know if that's possible, but I can do the
Speaker 5: best I can with it. And I just want to
Speaker 5: give everybody kind of a primer what the simulation is
Speaker 5: before we go. It's wanted to say if you're feeling better.
Speaker 5: You look like you're not doing too bad tonight. And
Speaker 5: then when I talked to you earlier, you were feeling
Speaker 5: pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, an energy healing on me right before the show,
Speaker 2: you know, And yeah it helped a little bit for sure.
Speaker 2: But I'm still like stopped up. I still got body aches,
Speaker 2: i still got like my chest is a little bit
Speaker 2: of boss to. I mean, like, I think it's just
Speaker 2: going to take time. And when I said in my
Speaker 2: last show before this is I'm trying to understand like
Speaker 2: flu season, Like I think there's honestly something up with it,
Speaker 2: because you know, I know someone in California that had
Speaker 2: exactly what I have, and people all.
Speaker 3: Around the country have it. So how is it around
Speaker 3: this time of year?
Speaker 2: Every year everybody gets a or not everybody, but a
Speaker 2: lot of people get like the cold or flu. It's
Speaker 2: almost like they drop it into the population, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And it can't be at the worst time.
Speaker 2: It's when we're like our fears are in a heightened
Speaker 2: state because like you know, there's a war going on,
Speaker 2: so a lot of people are probably thinking, well, is
Speaker 2: Iran going to have a sleeper cell attacked to the country,
Speaker 2: or is a dirty bomb going to go off?
Speaker 3: And or are they going to invade the country somehow.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are probably thoughts on everybody's mind. I
Speaker 3: know it's on my mind.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: You know, we lived far from what's going on. It's
Speaker 3: always something that can happen.
Speaker 6: So you don't want to be in like a deduced
Speaker 6: state or a state of weakness when you feel like
Speaker 6: there's ward hand, you.
Speaker 5: Know, right, Well, just imagine raw if this system that
Speaker 5: we're in, because you're seeing now things become very nice,
Speaker 5: negative and problems keep happening and things, and it's almost
Speaker 5: as if it's catered to each of us individually. What
Speaker 5: if it really was and what if this system was
Speaker 5: in fact here to actually to be helpful, but it
Speaker 5: was turned over, it was it was flipped, it was inverted,
Speaker 5: and it became this you know, corrupt type of I
Speaker 5: guess you could call it targeting system that it is.
Speaker 4: It's vampireic. But just think if this was the opposite
Speaker 4: of that, Like this this whole.
Speaker 5: World was engineered and this reality was was engineered by
Speaker 5: a type of an AI system that would facilitate soul
Speaker 5: growth to where you came here. Things would improve where
Speaker 5: well you would you could improve yourself under a type
Speaker 5: of an augmented reality. You know, it's like going to
Speaker 5: that I don't know if you've ever seen the movie
Speaker 5: or the show Fancy Island. Yeah, well just imagine this
Speaker 5: would be like that, and you could go to a
Speaker 5: place but you'd forget maybe maybe you'd maybe part of
Speaker 5: the problem. She would forget that you who you were,
Speaker 5: and you'd start fresh and start new, and then your
Speaker 5: entire experience was catered by a type of almost like
Speaker 5: a godlike AI system that and then these attachments did
Speaker 5: people talk about and have to deal with What if
Speaker 5: they were the opposite? What if they were there to
Speaker 5: help you? And then everything was turned around and turned
Speaker 5: on its head and turned into a prison.
Speaker 3: You got hijacked somewhere along the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe maybe the universe is kind of the
Speaker 4: same way.
Speaker 5: But it was never intended to where you would have
Speaker 5: such a harsh place to live, such as Earth, because Earth,
Speaker 5: let's just say the universe was actually designed. It was
Speaker 5: kind of an electra of magnetic holographic construct that was,
Speaker 5: you know, created by higher minds, higher souls, whatever you
Speaker 5: want to call them, and it was there to accelerate
Speaker 5: soul development, and it was kind of an experiment and
Speaker 5: went awry, and then once the people got in or
Speaker 5: the souls went inside it, they became corrupted, and that
Speaker 5: there was a system of hierarchy that they set up
Speaker 5: in order to alleviate the pain of being here because.
Speaker 4: It is a harsher environment.
Speaker 5: It's it's you know, we have entropy, we have the
Speaker 5: life and death cycle, and we're we're almost locked into it.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, we're locked into these you know,
Speaker 5: container bodies, and you know, we can't get out unless
Speaker 5: we were to kill ourselves or but you know, it's
Speaker 5: it's like we're locked in a prison system.
Speaker 4: What if it was the opposite of that.
Speaker 5: What if we went into this experience to gain knowledge
Speaker 5: or you know, to to improve ourselves, but the system
Speaker 5: itself became corrupted.
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like taking the Genesis.
Speaker 5: Story and adding Ai to it and then it just
Speaker 5: kind of flipping it around and just making a sense
Speaker 5: of it that way, because that's kind of the intuitive
Speaker 5: picture I get, like this universe was designed for something
Speaker 5: different and it became completely corrupted. Yeah, and it isn't
Speaker 5: the uni verse that we think of as being the
Speaker 5: all in fact, what if this is just a place
Speaker 5: to go that was originally for soul development that kind
Speaker 5: of took on a life of it own, Like that
Speaker 5: one presentation that I did where where you know, we
Speaker 5: talked about how the universe could be inside a lab
Speaker 5: and we you know, we talked about.
Speaker 4: Jerry Will's testimony.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hands and at stargate and he leaned up
Speaker 5: and he put his forehead to it, and he was doing.
Speaker 4: A change.
Speaker 2: Recently, which was crazy. I mean, like I talked to him,
Speaker 2: you know, like I mean, like I wish my videos
Speaker 2: would do better, you know, but I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I get more traction, but I mean, this is the
Speaker 2: world I'm doing with you know.
Speaker 4: Well, if you ever get them on again, see if
Speaker 4: we're going with me.
Speaker 5: I'd love to talk to him about this concept, because
Speaker 5: it seemed when he went into that that stargate, when
Speaker 5: he got to the other side of it, it seemed
Speaker 5: as if they were holding back a lot of information.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of I don't know or we
Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen. This is an experiment.
Speaker 5: What if they weren't exactly being honest with them, What
Speaker 5: if it was a lot more than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: I tell.
Speaker 2: Guys, what he's referring to is when Jerry Wills went
Speaker 2: through this stargate, he was in this like like this
Speaker 2: uh you could call it.
Speaker 3: It seemed like he found himself in.
Speaker 2: A void type area and this voice started talking to
Speaker 2: him like from another dimension, and it was talent, and
Speaker 2: he was communicating with it about Earth and stuff, and
Speaker 2: he was asking it questions, and like Nate said, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Very you know. But then what I wanted to tie
Speaker 3: it to Nate was there was this researcher he died.
Speaker 3: Is he was like a paranormal researcher.
Speaker 2: His name was Paul mo And when I interviewed him,
Speaker 2: like this was like four years ago and I didn't
Speaker 2: hardly know much, but he told me him and his
Speaker 2: son were doing like paranormal investigations and like they called
Speaker 2: them flat areas or like hotspots, you know.
Speaker 3: And he said in these hotspots they were able to
Speaker 3: communicate with interdimensional people. And these he said, these interdimensional
Speaker 3: people said it was normal for them.
Speaker 2: To talk to the neighbors, which would be us, but
Speaker 2: they knew that like we were shut off from the
Speaker 2: outside and I found that absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I ever told you that, but like,
Speaker 6: I wonder if that's what we're doing with here. There's
Speaker 6: something similar to.
Speaker 4: That, you know, Yeah, and I wonder how far that goes.
Speaker 5: Is that the entire universe itself or is it just
Speaker 5: the planet, because it's a little bit of both. I
Speaker 5: think it's the universe itself, that's the AI construct, and
Speaker 5: we're just in a type of restricted prison zone from
Speaker 5: you know, due to whatever consequences there were however we
Speaker 5: all got here, you know. So in other words, that
Speaker 5: if you came into this reality and you were here
Speaker 5: and you're living as an et and and you did
Speaker 5: something to upset the powers that be wherever you were
Speaker 5: and then they put you here, so it's like a
Speaker 5: prison system. So this is an indicative of the real
Speaker 5: experience because you know, people talk about being fully telepathic
Speaker 5: as an extraterrestrial and civilizations they don't have the same
Speaker 5: type of limitations that we have. You know, they have
Speaker 5: space travel, they have advanced technology, but more importantly, they
Speaker 5: have advanced psionic abilities. So let's just say that, you know,
Speaker 5: like that was the norm for the learning experience, and
Speaker 5: maybe that involved as somewhat of a state of amnesia
Speaker 5: as well. But then when you get to this place,
Speaker 5: when you get to this place, you're stripped of your
Speaker 5: psychic abilities, you're stripped of knowledge, you're stripped of the
Speaker 5: memory of self, and you're placed here as if it's
Speaker 5: your first lifetime ever, and you've got to try to
Speaker 5: piece it all together, which is what I've tried to
Speaker 5: do my whole life.
Speaker 4: It was just, you know, I knew something was wrong,
Speaker 4: and I knew that, you know.
Speaker 5: People should be psychic because the animals were exhibiting psychic abilities.
Speaker 5: And you know, so I think a lot of us
Speaker 5: have been through this. I mean, have you ever you know,
Speaker 5: went through your life thinking these same things? Because I
Speaker 5: know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, special just puts me in a category of people
Speaker 4: like the people listening time.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 2: That's why I do this, you know, I mean, my
Speaker 2: my whole reasoning, like you know, say, six seven years
Speaker 2: ago when I started this was like, you know, I
Speaker 2: was watching I told people, I was watching shows like
Speaker 2: A Week Project with Rex Bear and Forbidden Knowledge News
Speaker 2: with Chris Matthew, and I was question in reality.
Speaker 3: I was questioning. I was like what happens when we die?
Speaker 2: Like I wanted to know before before anything, you know,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to know what was next because like,
Speaker 2: I think that's the most important question that we're ever
Speaker 2: gonna like face and like if there is.
Speaker 3: A soul trap, like how do we beat it and
Speaker 3: get out of here?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Because I joke with people, I say, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like the soul trap is like you go
Speaker 2: through the light and then you wake up in a
Speaker 2: birth canal. And when you wake up in a birth
Speaker 2: now that's why a baby's crying because it realizes you
Speaker 2: got tricked into be coming.
Speaker 3: Back here, you know.
Speaker 5: Like I mean, can managine you're being squeezed and you
Speaker 5: can't breathe. Then you're you know, you're going through this
Speaker 5: like fleshy tunnel and your your head's being squished and
Speaker 5: you're you're being pulled down to a bright light. It's
Speaker 5: pretty tromitizing. That's why we don't really remember it. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it is a maakening to this experience.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that, Yeah, I know we're gonna
Speaker 2: get a little bit into the soul chaplain, But do
Speaker 2: you feel like there's some definite validity? I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: I've had many people on to talk about it, but like,
Speaker 2: do you feel like there's definitely some validity to the.
Speaker 3: Soul trap and like from my different researchers and stuff
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: You know, I was gonna I was gonna lead this
Speaker 5: conversation with a joke, so I may as well just
Speaker 5: do it, get it out of my system. I was
Speaker 5: gonna say, I've always wanted to talk about things that
Speaker 5: mean the most of people. So let's talk about world
Speaker 5: wrestling entertainment and McDonald's new hamburger. You know that get
Speaker 5: millions of views. Okay, So, but this conversation is not
Speaker 5: something that most people engage in. I've talked to many
Speaker 5: different people and I've asked them, you know, do you
Speaker 5: ever wonder what happens when you die?
Speaker 4: It seems like most people just.
Speaker 5: Don't care or they don't care to talk about it to,
Speaker 5: you know, to them, they rather pay attention to what's
Speaker 5: going on in the stock market or the sports, or entertainment,
Speaker 5: something to do with work, or just something else. And
Speaker 5: it's rather frustrating because you know, and that's why when
Speaker 5: people get together like us, we have these interesting conversations
Speaker 5: and it's it's like a you know, it's like a
Speaker 5: refreshing experience makes us feel better because we're so isolated
Speaker 5: in society. It seems it's like everybody's become Yeah, I
Speaker 5: would say NPC like because and I think that that
Speaker 5: is because there's a lot of people that you know,
Speaker 5: use the term NPC.
Speaker 4: So what does it really mean.
Speaker 5: I think it's people that have been here for so
Speaker 5: long that they've completely lost what it is to be
Speaker 5: connected to their original self and they're oversoul.
Speaker 4: So to them, this is it.
Speaker 5: There's nothing else, and this limited reality is all there is.
Speaker 5: So they fill it with things that are mundane, and
Speaker 5: then when that doesn't work, they fill it with religion
Speaker 5: and then they struggle with it. A lot of people
Speaker 5: will move from one religion to another over the course
Speaker 5: of their life, and some settled into atheism, which is
Speaker 5: a religion in and of itself in actually many ways,
Speaker 5: and so you know, it's it's an unfortunate thing that
Speaker 5: we live like this, and the further we get away
Speaker 5: from these subjects in our everyday lives, I think, the
Speaker 5: more we sink into, you know, depravity and immorality, and
Speaker 5: the worse we are to each other. I think it's
Speaker 5: you know, because this is the side of spirituality that
Speaker 5: the church really it addresses it, but it doesn't really
Speaker 5: go into in any depth, and it doesn't provide any reassurances.
Speaker 5: It's just like, you know, you believe in this religion
Speaker 5: and you're saved. If you don't, you're going to hell.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's just like, you know, how do
Speaker 5: you how do you navigate this whole thing? And that's
Speaker 5: been a struggle for a lot of us growing up
Speaker 5: and living these lives.
Speaker 4: It's just what do we do?
Speaker 5: And that's why people get into alternatives like WICCA and
Speaker 5: New Age Movement. Unfortunately, some people can Satanism, but they
Speaker 5: take alternative spiritual paths. Some just go and just say
Speaker 5: I'm just going to experience my life and do the
Speaker 5: best I can, maybe as positive I can. I believe
Speaker 5: there's a creator, but I'm not going to subscribe to
Speaker 5: any of these religions that tries to define that creator
Speaker 5: in human turns.
Speaker 4: So I guess this show is really for them. So
Speaker 4: here we go. So anyway, let me get a drink
Speaker 4: of this. All right, where should we go with this? First?
Speaker 5: Rob, do you want to take any like everyday subjects
Speaker 5: and get them into the way that are going on
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: Well, you want to just the current events, we can.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been talking about it a little bit
Speaker 2: like it's uh, it's definitely you know, it's up to
Speaker 2: you wherever you want to go with it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm down to talk about whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's sort of like sweeping the floor because I figure
Speaker 5: a flick when I come here, I have to at
Speaker 5: least comment on that stuff and then get into the
Speaker 5: stuff that people came here to listen to, you know,
Speaker 5: the Epstein files for example, the Epstein files. People want
Speaker 5: to know why Trump would release the Epstein files if.
Speaker 4: He's in them. It just seems very very confusing.
Speaker 5: He's not been exonerated by it, like he says, He's
Speaker 5: tried to cover it up, and there's been a push
Speaker 5: to get it out.
Speaker 4: So it isn't just a Trump's the dictator to get
Speaker 4: you know, it makes a decision.
Speaker 5: There's people who want this information out and they're very
Speaker 5: frustrated with the redactive format. But for me, when I
Speaker 5: look at it, and the only way to make sense
Speaker 5: of this is to recognize that the elites are in
Speaker 5: total control. The public is the last to know, and
Speaker 5: the public is apathetic and doesn't want to make a move.
Speaker 5: They don't want to push, they want to they don't
Speaker 5: want to show the power that they really have because
Speaker 5: they believe that they don't have it. So it looks
Speaker 5: to me like this is a global satanic ritual designed
Speaker 5: to release karma from the predator class.
Speaker 4: Through the victims.
Speaker 5: Meaning if the victims consent and they go along with this,
Speaker 5: and the public just stands down and says, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, the Dallas up and things are going, and
Speaker 5: what we're you know, we don't want.
Speaker 4: To upset the apple card.
Speaker 5: We need these people in the financial system, we need
Speaker 5: in government, so let's not prosecute them. Let's just gain
Speaker 5: knowledge about this and we'll understand what they've done. And
Speaker 5: that's it, because there's nothing that we can do about.
Speaker 5: Let's just make the best of it. And that's given consent.
Speaker 5: So that's what the vampiric the lead want. They want consent,
Speaker 5: And how do they get consent. They get it through apathy,
Speaker 5: So by showing the world who they are. And if
Speaker 5: the world just says, okay, whatever, what's on TV, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's consent. And I think that's what they're going for
Speaker 5: they're trying to normalize their behavior, because where do you
Speaker 5: go from here? I mean, what you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 5: where do they plan on taking us from here? It's further,
Speaker 5: it's really it's a slippery slope of more acceptance to
Speaker 5: this behavior. So they're making it. They're taking their the
Speaker 5: things that they do behind the scenes, and they're putting
Speaker 5: it out front for us, so we're seeing it.
Speaker 2: It's talk about like some of this stuff, like I'll
Speaker 2: just say human trafficking, child trafficking, child sex abuse, you know,
Speaker 2: ritualistic abuse, eating, eating, I mean, like cannibalism. It goes me,
Speaker 2: it goes so decrepit and disgusting. It's like the depravity
Speaker 2: of the depravity of the psychotic insane asylum that.
Speaker 3: We live in.
Speaker 2: And you know what I found was interesting was, you know,
Speaker 2: some people over in London got arrested, but you know, here,
Speaker 2: what did we do? We had a hearing and we
Speaker 2: let Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton testify, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you really think they're going to tell the truth, Like
Speaker 2: what what do they have the game by coming.
Speaker 3: Forward in a court and like saying anything, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I just thought that was like ludicrous.
Speaker 3: It's like, you already have these.
Speaker 2: Files on these people, Like why isn't Bill Gates being
Speaker 2: fully prosecuted?
Speaker 4: I know why?
Speaker 2: Because he's part of like what controls this hell hole,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, He's part of the satanic insanity,
Speaker 2: you know. Like you know, so if you live in
Speaker 2: a system that protects the predators, the predators will never
Speaker 2: get arrested, you know what I mean, Because I always
Speaker 2: say that, I said, they're protecting the you know.
Speaker 3: It's like and then it seems like if you go
Speaker 3: after the pedophiles that you like Isaac Cappy, did you
Speaker 3: end up dead? You know? And and that seems to
Speaker 3: be what we're what we're dealing with here, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Clinton's testified to to exonerate Trump
Speaker 5: or to at least give him some some some excuses,
Speaker 5: and you know, to put a lot of doubt in there.
Speaker 4: So I think that was what that was for.
Speaker 5: I think there's you know, we're not going to see
Speaker 5: prosecutions for any of this here in the United States,
Speaker 5: despite what people do. The ones of a handful of
Speaker 5: people in Congress that actually, meanwhile they haven't been completely
Speaker 5: threatened and shut down.
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to see anything.
Speaker 5: And these arrest over there in Europe and other countries,
Speaker 5: they are not for the pedophilia that's in the files.
Speaker 5: They're for other violations that that came out of the files.
Speaker 5: So they cherry picked what they wanted to prosecute about
Speaker 5: and they left the pedophilia. They left the rape to
Speaker 5: murder and all that stuff and cannibalism alone, and and
Speaker 5: and I think this is part of the operation, as
Speaker 5: part of the psychological operation, because you know, a global
Speaker 5: Satanic ritual and the occult and all that is basically
Speaker 5: it's it's controlling people's consciousness, it's controlling their perception. So
Speaker 5: we're being conditioned to accept this. And it's just like
Speaker 5: it was in the ancient times. I mean, this stuff
Speaker 5: happened then there's no difference. The same gods are being worshiped,
Speaker 5: the same attachments are connects to people, the same disgusting,
Speaker 5: depraved things are happening.
Speaker 4: It's just that they're happening at a lower level.
Speaker 5: Like in Egypt, you'd have a big mutilation festival, you'd
Speaker 5: have cannibalism, rape and people's guts being ripped out of
Speaker 5: their stomachs and blood going everywhere, and it's a feeding
Speaker 5: frenzy for you know, for psychic parasites and nasty negative
Speaker 5: ET gods that you know, demand this type of behavior.
Speaker 5: And you know, we see a lot in the ancient
Speaker 5: world that people don't that the even the alternative archaeological
Speaker 5: community doesn't want to address. The ancient Aliens crowd doesn't
Speaker 5: want to talk about human sacrifice. They want to talk
Speaker 5: about the brutality that these ets demanded of the people.
Speaker 4: And we're seeing it again. And what we're seeing really
Speaker 4: is that it never changed.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: So anybody out there who's saying the same thing as
Speaker 5: I am, is telling you the truth.
Speaker 4: This is not anything new.
Speaker 5: This is just the same old crap that we've always
Speaker 5: dealt with from the ruling elite. They're into this stuff.
Speaker 5: This is the control system that the ets put into place.
Speaker 5: When you take control over a planet and you turn
Speaker 5: it into a prison, you have to have a specific
Speaker 5: protocol or specific program of control, and that's exactly what
Speaker 5: this is. You take the elite, you put your own
Speaker 5: people into these bodies. Okay, whether it's a controlled state
Speaker 5: of consciousness or they're fully aware of who they are
Speaker 5: whatever the case is. They're running things, and then the
Speaker 5: ets that are still not incarnated here on earth played god,
Speaker 5: and then they set this system up. It's a system
Speaker 5: of top control. It's everlasting tyranny. And we go through
Speaker 5: cyclic tyranny within our governments. Where the governments rise, they
Speaker 5: get to a point where they become corrupted and brutal
Speaker 5: to the people. The people overthrow the government, the whole
Speaker 5: system collapses and also you know, implodes economically in the
Speaker 5: one itself because of you know, the management that these
Speaker 5: monsters are actually doing. And then it gets rebuilt, and
Speaker 5: it gets and it happens again. So every government becomes corrupt,
Speaker 5: it collapses under its own evil, and then it gets replaced.
Speaker 5: And then you see the same pattern with you know,
Speaker 5: ancient cataclysms. Every so often they reboot the planet. They
Speaker 5: collectively erase our memories, and they do it in an
Speaker 5: individual basis, and they wipe away our collective history since
Speaker 5: we don't we can't remember anything if we have the amnesia.
Speaker 5: So society and the individual, or civilization and the individual
Speaker 5: are always getting a big mind wife and starting over again.
Speaker 5: So we're constantly chasing our own tail. It's like where
Speaker 5: have we been?
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, these monsters run our world controller they can put
Speaker 5: our society and they make.
Speaker 4: The rules, and it's getting worse worse every single day.
Speaker 5: You know, Iba today to get my tagged, and it's
Speaker 5: like I'm in a dystopic. I'm in a destoke the reality.
Speaker 5: It's like RoboCop or something, or you know, someone one
Speaker 5: of the Sports and Agger movies, you know, like being
Speaker 5: in total recall. Everything's AI controlled, there's no privacy, everything's
Speaker 5: under a microscope, and they're literally trying to kill all
Speaker 5: of us. They're literally targeting people of all sorts for
Speaker 5: you know, for for I guess you'd call it, you know, deletion,
Speaker 5: chronic people. I mean, you have people who are suffering
Speaker 5: with health issues and chronic pain. They're being called by
Speaker 5: the system. They're you know, these are people able to
Speaker 5: have no options except for taking pain medication, and they're
Speaker 5: being pulled off the pain medication and being given poison
Speaker 5: as an alternative.
Speaker 4: They can't work because they're on these.
Speaker 5: Drugs and they're and they're put into it's just a
Speaker 5: situation where suicide is the best option. And then they
Speaker 5: promote suicide like in Canada and in their states here,
Speaker 5: you know, Canada won't pay for certain medical procedures. They'll
Speaker 5: fight like hell to keep it from happening.
Speaker 4: But if you want to commit suicide, that's always available.
Speaker 5: There's never a pre approval process, not much to speak
Speaker 5: to your doctor, get a note, will send you a
Speaker 5: pod into mail and then comes and ships. You know,
Speaker 5: they deliver it, You get inside it, it knocks you
Speaker 5: out with a gas and then you know it kills you.
Speaker 5: Help Canada pays for it. I guess Amazon will come
Speaker 5: pick you up and take you to the take you
Speaker 5: to the incinerator and you can send your ashes wherever
Speaker 5: you want.
Speaker 2: For you tube purposes or not. I don't think we're
Speaker 2: supposed to say suicide. So this is for entertainment purposes only,
Speaker 2: and we're not condoning suicide any means. We're just yeah,
Speaker 2: showing it in a in a documentarian type way that
Speaker 2: like assisted suicide is available in Canada, and like if
Speaker 2: anybody has some to pray wish that they would want
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: You need to really see a psychiatrist or get professional
Speaker 3: helper or but don't don't do that. Don't don't do that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean like that. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't think anybody will, but you know, I just got
Speaker 3: to say that for YouTube purposes.
Speaker 5: You know, they they pick and choose who they want
Speaker 5: a censor, and for what you know, there's videos that
Speaker 5: talk about all of this and nobody cares about it.
Speaker 4: They you know, talk about in a positive way.
Speaker 5: If you're chronically ill and you need physician assisted suicide,
Speaker 5: I think that there should be some option.
Speaker 4: But I think before that happens, that every every avenue.
Speaker 5: Has to be explored and everything needs to be done
Speaker 5: to make the person healthy and make them comfortable and
Speaker 5: not because I mean that what we're seeing is is
Speaker 5: a direct focus on you know, physician assisted suicide versus.
Speaker 4: Actually helping people.
Speaker 5: And when you can kill yourself because you have credit
Speaker 5: card debt or some other financial problems, or your disability
Speaker 5: check doesn't cover your cost of living anymore due to inflation,
Speaker 5: which is a Canadian government's fault, they're they're they're giving
Speaker 5: you that option. In fact, there was a man that
Speaker 5: did that simply due to the fact that his disability
Speaker 5: check after having multiple back surgeries, just wasn't going to
Speaker 5: pay for his apartment anymore, and he was going to
Speaker 5: be homeless, literally homeless and disabled, nowhere to go and
Speaker 5: no family to rely on. So he filed for position
Speaker 5: assistant suicide and was granted it. Was one of the
Speaker 5: first people under the new Canadian law to do it
Speaker 5: simply because the government couldn't provide him with a with
Speaker 5: a sustainable living because he was disabled. And that's disgusting.
Speaker 5: That's what they want. This is the type of world
Speaker 5: that we're in, and this is this is Hitler all
Speaker 5: over again. You know, Hitler never succeeds. These people are
Speaker 5: and they're the ones that funded and created to start with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what do you what do you do in
Speaker 4: this reality?
Speaker 3: I mean it's very they absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh you know one thing I wanted to ask you
Speaker 2: about Nate Robert, but I definitely want to cover all
Speaker 2: the current events. I definitely want to see what you
Speaker 2: think about the Trump UFO disclosure, like I mean, if
Speaker 2: he does it, like I'm wondering what you think he'll release,
Speaker 2: if anything, and I wonder how much how much of
Speaker 2: it's going to come back or redacted. And then I'd
Speaker 2: also like to get before we get into the stuff,
Speaker 2: and I want to get into the uh, the Iran war,
Speaker 2: because it's interesting, like, you know, a lot of us
Speaker 2: supported Trump.
Speaker 6: You know, I know you did.
Speaker 2: I voted for Trump, did you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Then we realized there was something we didn't like, you know.
Speaker 2: But then, like you know, him deciding with Israel is crazy,
Speaker 2: like and I tried being supportive about it on my
Speaker 2: shot I did with Indigo Angel I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I said, I know that a lot of people blame
Speaker 2: Israel for a lot of the world's problems. I said,
Speaker 2: but we can't be racist towards one group of people.
Speaker 2: And I guess they're kind of our ally in this situation.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, a lot of people do blame
Speaker 2: Israel for a lot of the world's problems. You know,
Speaker 2: they point to Zionism, the Kasaians, the I mean, you
Speaker 2: go on, you know, the people think that in yahoo's
Speaker 2: a criminal. They think they say, Israel does genocide on
Speaker 2: the Palace. There's so much, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But so people are really like looking like why did
Speaker 2: Trump side with them? But then when you look at
Speaker 2: from like a geopolitical aspect, like it seems that he's
Speaker 2: acting like it's like something they had to do.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like they had to like
Speaker 3: they you know, So I don't know, what do you
Speaker 3: think about all that stuff?
Speaker 4: Like, well, I've been involved in politics. I've been to
Speaker 4: DC and.
Speaker 5: I went to this event at the National Press Club,
Speaker 5: and I don't remember the senator's name, but he was
Speaker 5: the one that read the Pentagon papers on the floor
Speaker 5: of the Senate and that was classified. So there's a
Speaker 5: loophole that you can eat Senate that senators can use
Speaker 5: to release classified information if they read it on the
Speaker 5: floor of the Senate. There's some kind of loophole the
Speaker 5: don't get prosecuted. So they were going over the Pentagon
Speaker 5: papers and he read them. And this The interesting thing
Speaker 5: about the Pentagon papers is the I believe that's where
Speaker 5: the Jason Society was discovered, which is that secret working
Speaker 5: group of scientists.
Speaker 4: I think that was the first time that was exposed.
Speaker 5: But also too, the main reason that this was being
Speaker 5: done was to reveal that the Vietnam War was being
Speaker 5: fought not to win, but to just continue to go
Speaker 5: on for other reasons. And you had a draft and
Speaker 5: you had what sixty thousand Americans died, if not more.
Speaker 5: And these are just people, I think you died on
Speaker 5: the battlefield, not the ones that died from ach and
Speaker 5: orange and other combat related illnesses after the factor. They
Speaker 5: died whether being airlifted out or at the hospital. So yeah,
Speaker 5: So anyway, I was at the National Press Club and
Speaker 5: we were talking about well, he was talking about the
Speaker 5: Israeli lobby and he said and you know, he was
Speaker 5: critical of it like you just were. And he said
Speaker 5: that when I was in the Senate, you could not
Speaker 5: say any of this. They have literally got that much
Speaker 5: control and have had that much control over the US
Speaker 5: government for a very long time. And we know how
Speaker 5: they do it. They use extortion, that sex trafficking and
Speaker 5: things like that. So anytime that a government does that
Speaker 5: as an you know, because that apparently they feel they
Speaker 5: need to survive and they're willing to do anything to
Speaker 5: get to that, you know, to make that happen. So
Speaker 5: this is their method, which is extorting our politicians and
Speaker 5: corporation heads of corporations and so on, and using blackmail, extortion,
Speaker 5: and human trafficking in order to do it. You can't
Speaker 5: get any worse than that. So, you know, if you
Speaker 5: look at the Bible, for example, it talks about if
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: What you're looking at.
Speaker 5: Essentially, Israel becomes the seed of the devil, it becomes
Speaker 5: the throne.
Speaker 4: Of the anti Christ. This is what gets me, you know.
Speaker 5: I talk to people my family and stuff that are
Speaker 5: you know, they identify as being a Christian, and they
Speaker 5: believe in the end times and all of this stuff.
Speaker 5: That they're completely blind to the reality that it's happening
Speaker 5: right now. That everything that they're been reading and listening
Speaker 5: to and watching videos and on different channels and things
Speaker 5: and you know whatever, they just it's as if that's
Speaker 5: some somehow in the future and we're never going to
Speaker 5: get there and they're never going to see it, but
Speaker 5: they're blind to the moment that it's actually happening now.
Speaker 5: And I followed this stuff for a long time because
Speaker 5: I've done and I usually don't call us off a researcher,
Speaker 5: but I am.
Speaker 4: Actually I just humble. I don't like throwing it out there.
Speaker 5: I've done research since I was fourteen, almost on a
Speaker 5: daily basis, so fifty two, that's thirty eight years. And
Speaker 5: I've researched more than just UFOs and ets, and I
Speaker 5: researched geopolitics, religion and everything, and you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: seeing is literally, and I also research the end time stuff.
Speaker 5: What I'm literally seeing is is that the elites are
Speaker 5: moving the chess pieces in order the stage arm again.
Speaker 5: They're they're trying to stage this this world government. That's
Speaker 5: clear and obvious. But they wanted to carry out this
Speaker 5: whole biblical prophecy, it seems, you know, to them, and
Speaker 5: it's as if it's a ritual.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 2: And you know, like the public's become so desensitized, like yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean like I've tried to tell people this, like
Speaker 2: you know, like I say, like, okay, how do I
Speaker 2: want to say this?
Speaker 3: Like Okay, there's a song on going around right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard of this.
Speaker 2: It's called Boom Boom tel Aviv, right, and it's about
Speaker 2: like and it's weird that that song came out right
Speaker 2: before Tel Aviv got bombed.
Speaker 3: And then I went on X when they were bombing,
Speaker 3: when this all was going on, when they were.
Speaker 2: Exchanging missiles and people were so happy to see Israel
Speaker 2: get destroyed, I said, wait, hold on a second, I said,
Speaker 2: these people, or a lot of them, are just like us.
Speaker 3: That would be like people saying that, like innocent.
Speaker 2: Americans deserve to die because the decisions of our government
Speaker 2: to go invade Iran or whatever, and that's not That's
Speaker 2: absolutely not the case, because a lot of us are
Speaker 2: like you know me, we don't want the war, we
Speaker 2: don't care about the war, and I'm sure that's the
Speaker 2: way it is for some Israeli.
Speaker 3: So I don't feel like inst is really deserved to die.
Speaker 6: They're not Zionists, they're not Gazarians, you know, some of
Speaker 6: them are just like normal people.
Speaker 3: But what the point I was trying to make is.
Speaker 2: Our general population is so desensitized that they can't even
Speaker 2: see that, you know what I mean. They're not willing
Speaker 2: to look at the bigger picture or like have we's humans,
Speaker 2: and I think that's crazy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: It goes back to what I said about being here
Speaker 5: too long. If you've been in this world, in this
Speaker 5: reality too long, then it's going to take you over.
Speaker 5: It's going to change you, and it's going to prevent
Speaker 5: you from getting out. And that's the purpose of it.
Speaker 5: I've connected trauma based mind control the concept of it,
Speaker 5: and I've been I've looked at the similarities to our
Speaker 5: reality and how our society has set up and how
Speaker 5: we're all treated. It's identical. There's no difference. This is
Speaker 5: just a bigger What they've done is they've taken trauma
Speaker 5: based mind control, spaded it into a world and a
Speaker 5: way of living.
Speaker 4: And they've gotten everybody to accept it.
Speaker 5: And when you see those images, when you watch those videos,
Speaker 5: like I saw one today where Tel Aviv was being
Speaker 5: hit by missiles, and there was a part of me
Speaker 5: that was angry at the manipulation by this country, to
Speaker 5: the point where I was almost ready to say they
Speaker 5: deserve it, blow it off the map, because you just
Speaker 5: you're so tired of it. Then you pull yourself back
Speaker 5: from that and you have to realize, you know, those
Speaker 5: people aren't deserving of that.
Speaker 4: It's their government that's just like ours.
Speaker 5: For the people that our government is victimizing, many of
Speaker 5: them feel that we should be blown off the map,
Speaker 5: all of us who have done absolutely nothing. And if
Speaker 5: we look at ourselves and we asked oursel, do I
Speaker 5: deserve that to my fat, does my family, do the
Speaker 5: people live around me in my neighborhood? Do the people
Speaker 5: of this country deserve that? Absolutely not. It's the ruling
Speaker 5: elites that are controlled by this alien presence that are
Speaker 5: caused all of these problems, and they want us to
Speaker 5: hate each other over it. You can't get a war
Speaker 5: going unless you've got consent, and it's just another form
Speaker 5: of consent. People are consenting to this. The American people
Speaker 5: feel that they can't rein in the government, so they're
Speaker 5: just giving consent.
Speaker 4: They're not protesting in the streets.
Speaker 5: If we really cared about other people in each other
Speaker 5: and ourselves ultimately, ourselves more than anything, because it has
Speaker 5: to start there. You have to have some self preservation,
Speaker 5: we would be in the streets protesting this. We would
Speaker 5: telling this president this regime, you do not have a
Speaker 5: unilateral right to declare war on any country without congressional approval.
Speaker 5: Of course, that leaves the you know, the approval of
Speaker 5: the overall decision making to a bunch of pedophilix comebacks.
Speaker 5: But better, it's at least better than giving it to
Speaker 5: one person who answers to no one who just goes
Speaker 5: at a whim decides what we're going to do. This,
Speaker 5: this war hasn't even been explained as to why.
Speaker 4: We're doing it.
Speaker 5: Because the president in this I mean, he's becoming like
Speaker 5: a dictorial individual, his ego. I mean, the real Trump
Speaker 5: has come out, you know, the false Trump that we
Speaker 5: had the first term is gone and the real Trump
Speaker 5: is here. And I think that was the whole point.
Speaker 5: That was the whole plan. And I don't know if
Speaker 5: it was the if that was the plan of Trump himself,
Speaker 5: but I think that's his handlers. That was the plan
Speaker 5: because not everybody that's in these positions is in control
Speaker 5: of their self. They're being controlled. So he's just another
Speaker 5: cog in the wheel. They need somebody to do this,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: I always say I've been saying this lady too.
Speaker 6: I feel like Trump's a total wild card, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like some of these other rulers, like
Speaker 6: I bet you Putin and the people of China or whatever.
Speaker 3: They probably don't want to gener to work because.
Speaker 2: They're probably like, what is this guy gonna do? It's
Speaker 2: almost like he's insane, he they I mean, if he decides,
Speaker 2: he could just drop a nuke on them, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and like no one would be old
Speaker 2: he's doing. I mean they did put like they did
Speaker 2: line up ships outside like the Persian Gulf. So we
Speaker 2: had an idea some what was gonna happen. But I mean,
Speaker 2: in a sense, it seems like Trump's kind of a
Speaker 2: wild card in the way where you never really know
Speaker 2: what he's gonna do, you know what I mean? Or
Speaker 2: maybe maybe we did, I don't know. What do you
Speaker 2: think about that?
Speaker 4: I think we do now. I think we do now.
Speaker 5: I think if you really study with who he is
Speaker 5: and what he's about, how he was brought up, he
Speaker 5: was brought up in an abusive family. We don't know
Speaker 5: his soul lineage, but you know, obviously he's he's got
Speaker 5: a lot of trauma and a lot of problems. Narcissism
Speaker 5: is one, and I think there's a good bit of
Speaker 5: a psychopathy there too, because he doesn't seem to have
Speaker 5: compassion for other people.
Speaker 4: Only certain people, it seems. And even then I can
Speaker 4: question it.
Speaker 5: Because it's almost as if he needs them for something,
Speaker 5: so he appreciates them. I'm not going to pass judgment
Speaker 5: on somebody I haven't met. I'm just looking at the
Speaker 5: fruits of their effort. And you know, I look, I
Speaker 5: voted for Trump. I did it twice, and I'll fully
Speaker 5: admit that I did it because I gave him the
Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt and for one, I don't you know,
Speaker 5: I was to the point where it's like it was
Speaker 5: getting to the point whereas and why bother voting?
Speaker 4: But if we don't vote, then we kind of give
Speaker 4: up that right. So it's like a consent.
Speaker 5: It's like we're now giving up full consent to be
Speaker 5: a dictator over us because we only want to participate
Speaker 5: in the voting process. Even though it's clearly rigged. It's
Speaker 5: clearly a rig system. We don't have the choice that
Speaker 5: we think we have. They pick who we who we
Speaker 5: get to pick from, and they control all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they voting for a call like I would never
Speaker 3: vote for someone on the left. That's like insane, that's
Speaker 3: like signing over your death wish, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Because we're finding out, like from the files, like and
Speaker 2: we knew this all along, that a lot of people
Speaker 2: are their Democrats, you know what I mean. They're there
Speaker 2: and they're they're they're very toxic, like psychopathic individuals.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, like on the other side, were's a facade
Speaker 5: and looks less threatening and that's really the truth of
Speaker 5: the manner. And you know, neither doesn't you any good
Speaker 5: they're both bad. One will take away your social safety
Speaker 5: net and use it for war, to defend the country
Speaker 5: like Israel, or to ordination bill with some other place.
Speaker 5: And they don't care about their own people. They want
Speaker 5: to cut healthcare, welfare, they want to make they want
Speaker 5: to take because I mean, we live in what they saves,
Speaker 5: the richest country on earth, but it pales in comparison
Speaker 5: to the social safety net found elsewhere. Okay, my son
Speaker 5: went around and and you know, for college, he took
Speaker 5: a trip all over Asia this summer and uh he
Speaker 5: actually was summer through fall he started.
Speaker 4: It was like a six month thing.
Speaker 5: So he came back around New Year's, just say after
Speaker 5: New Year's and he got to see all of these
Speaker 5: different countries, mostly were Asian. He went to China, he
Speaker 5: went to I'm sure if he went to Japan, but
Speaker 5: he went to Singapore in a variety of countries. And
Speaker 5: the thing that he came back with was a new
Speaker 5: perspective and it was just like they're doing it far
Speaker 5: better than we are. You know, Singapore has a much
Speaker 5: better or social safety now. They're more authoritarian when it
Speaker 5: came to the stabinations, but you're getting that everywhere you're
Speaker 5: getting forced into that no matter where you go.
Speaker 4: But the thing is they're taking better care of their
Speaker 4: people and they're not. They don't have that.
Speaker 5: You know, Israel to the United States is like in
Speaker 5: it it's like a parasitic twin. It's leaked, it's latched
Speaker 5: itself on and it's using all of us. And you know,
Speaker 5: I hate to bring this up, but you know the Talmud,
Speaker 5: in the Talmot, I don't know what verse it is,
Speaker 5: but it talks about when their Messiah comes, because there's
Speaker 5: you know, every every religion's got a Messiah and every
Speaker 5: in a savior figure. When the Jewish Messiah comes and
Speaker 5: takes power, every Jew will have I think, twenty five
Speaker 5: thousand gentile slaves. So how does that, How is that possible?
Speaker 5: It doesn't even make sense. How would you house twenty
Speaker 5: five thousand slaves. Well, I think it's obvious what it is.
Speaker 5: It's literally every every every citizen of Israel has twenty
Speaker 5: five thousand taxpayers in the United States who's willing and
Speaker 5: has no other choice but to foot the bill too.
Speaker 5: And it doesn't benefit the people of Israel. So it's
Speaker 5: not even a positive for them. Well, it does in
Speaker 5: a way indirectly, but we're the war machine that protects
Speaker 5: their country, and we're the one that changes the regimes
Speaker 5: to suit their government and what they want. And so technically, yeah,
Speaker 5: for every person living in Israel, there's twenty five thousand
Speaker 5: US taxpayers out there who were footing the bill for
Speaker 5: their government's wars and other forms of foreign policy escapades.
Speaker 2: Okay, address something made so and Eleanor Rose in the comments.
Speaker 2: I said something that like we need to dig deeper,
Speaker 2: and she said Trump's doing a lot of good. Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not against Trump at all, Like I
Speaker 2: voted for him, and I'm like supportive of whatever he's
Speaker 2: doing with this war. I'm just critical of Israel and
Speaker 2: I'm critical of some of his decisions. Like my job
Speaker 2: as a journalist or an independent journalist is the book
Speaker 2: be neutral, you know what I mean? And when anytime
Speaker 2: someone does anything that might I might call bullshit, I
Speaker 2: have to call it, like for example, the Glypas. You know,
Speaker 2: even though I support Trump, I wasn't supported that he
Speaker 2: signed the bill on Glypa state, which.
Speaker 5: Is round up not even a bill. It was an
Speaker 5: executive order. Sorry to interrupt you, that was an executive order.
Speaker 5: Wasn't anything that was voted on by Congress. He unilaterally
Speaker 5: declared that we have to use glicas a for national
Speaker 5: security purposes to protect our food supply. And he did
Speaker 5: it to where now it's one thing to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: we have to use this until there's an alternative, and
Speaker 5: then and then create a transitionary process to find an
Speaker 5: alternative because we really do need one. It causes cancer,
Speaker 5: it's quite obvious. It's damaging the environment and it's damaging
Speaker 5: our bodies. But there's no transition. He gave a big,
Speaker 5: big kiss to the agriculture you know, corporations, you know,
Speaker 5: to the company that makes you round up, and he
Speaker 5: gave them basically an exemption from lawsuits. So how are
Speaker 5: we going to get the glicos ate out of our
Speaker 5: food supply? Because it's not going to be done by Congress.
Speaker 5: The only avenue or only way we had to do
Speaker 5: this was suing. So here's you got RFK Junior as
Speaker 5: a member of the cabinet, and he's got to sit
Speaker 5: there and deal with it. He's had lawsuits trying to
Speaker 5: stop them from using this stuff, and he's had to
Speaker 5: capitulate to Trump's authority and say well, I understand why
Speaker 5: the president did this, and I can understand that he
Speaker 5: didn't inherit the broken system, but why reinforce the broken system?
Speaker 5: Why give them a lawsuit exemption? So there you go again,
Speaker 5: it's just another corporate give back. I think what's happened
Speaker 5: with Donald Trump is that he wasn't fully controllable, so
Speaker 5: when he came in, he wasn't going along with the
Speaker 5: planning he saw. Now, I think some of that they
Speaker 5: wanted to create the illusion that he was an out
Speaker 5: outside are coming in, even though he came from their circles,
Speaker 5: so they wanted to quiet and brush that aside.
Speaker 4: And he came from their circles.
Speaker 5: You know, anybody that brought up f steam when he
Speaker 5: was running was like, hushed up, well let's not talk
Speaker 5: about that, or or you know, maybe he's changed, okay,
Speaker 5: And then for me it was always it was like, okay,
Speaker 5: you know, if he's going to do something right, I'm
Speaker 5: going to support it.
Speaker 4: He's going to do something wrong, I'm going to oppose it.
Speaker 5: I'm not part of this tribal way of you know,
Speaker 5: way of thinking where it's the left versus right, Democrat
Speaker 5: versus Republican because that's counterproductive.
Speaker 4: It goes nowhere. So what he does when he does.
Speaker 5: Do something right, of course I'm going to say I'm
Speaker 5: glad he did, and that's exactly what I wanted to see.
Speaker 5: But I'm not even seeing it. With immigration, what I'm
Speaker 5: seeing is a shock and all policy. If they wanted
Speaker 5: to actually fix this problem, they go after the labor,
Speaker 5: they go after the companies that hire people they're here illegally,
Speaker 5: and they give them.
Speaker 4: Preference over over over legal citizens, you know.
Speaker 5: And I've been struggling with, you know, with the job market,
Speaker 5: and I've had and I've actually did a test and
Speaker 5: I applied as an illegal alien.
Speaker 4: I came in.
Speaker 5: I snuck out of poland I'm trying to declare refugee status.
Speaker 5: I'm coming in. I came into Mexico. I got smuggled
Speaker 5: in there. The cartels brought me up over the border.
Speaker 5: And now I'm applying for Amazon.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: And of course you know, you'll get those jobs if
Speaker 5: you tell them they're you're here illegally. And it's the
Speaker 5: it's the companies that ad you if you're here, if
Speaker 5: you're legally able to work, and then when you stay,
Speaker 5: let me see what happens, and you collect no, I'm
Speaker 5: not when you when you select that I'm not legally
Speaker 5: able to work in this country, that should be the
Speaker 5: end of the correspondence.
Speaker 4: But they immediately respond to you and I offer you an.
Speaker 5: Interview versus before or I couldn't even get that simply
Speaker 5: because I stated I was legally able to work in
Speaker 5: the United States. So you have the companies. It's the
Speaker 5: people that benefit from the slave labor of the illegal
Speaker 5: immigrants who will promised the world that are brought here
Speaker 5: and by our tax dollars, and you know, like an
Speaker 5: invasion force, and they're just trying to find a better way,
Speaker 5: and they think that this is it, because this is
Speaker 5: the opportunity has been given to them, that they're just
Speaker 5: being used as cannon.
Speaker 4: Fodder for the system around them and send him back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to remember what the Biden administration did.
Speaker 2: They fucking let like hordes of the legal immigrants and
Speaker 2: that were like Middle Eastern nature fighting age, like you know,
Speaker 2: that's all verifiable, you know, it's it's like, how could
Speaker 2: they let someone be that.
Speaker 3: Irresponsible to let all those illegals, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's that was Yeah, I don't I don't.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think Biden even knew he was he was alive.
Speaker 2: He had to be a clone or somebody, because that
Speaker 2: guy was a fucking moron, you know, like beyond moron.
Speaker 6: You know, I think.
Speaker 5: There's evidence of mask wearing, there's green screen evidence, there's
Speaker 5: evidence that one of the videos that he did readdress
Speaker 5: a nation as Ai.
Speaker 4: I mean, who knows what that? I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: to the point where I don't even care anymore about it.
Speaker 4: I just know that what was done.
Speaker 5: So whether it's Biden, an actor or a clone, the
Speaker 5: same thing happened. And for everything that Trump has done wrong,
Speaker 5: you have to understand it took Biden and the other
Speaker 5: presidents before him to set the situation up. You can't
Speaker 5: just come in and do this if there wasn't help,
Speaker 5: if there wasn't if the conditions weren't set. So, I
Speaker 5: just it pains me when I hear people saying, well,
Speaker 5: you get to democrats back, and for what I think,
Speaker 5: we need to get them all out.
Speaker 4: It doesn't even matter who you put in at this point,
Speaker 4: the agenda is going to be the same.
Speaker 5: You know, there's smaller little things on the side, and
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well the Democrats will take our guns.
Speaker 4: Well, guess what.
Speaker 5: None of the people that own guns in America, the
Speaker 5: majority of them, don't have the guts to use them.
Speaker 4: They're not going to stand up to the government.
Speaker 5: Okay, we may as well be disarmed and spend less
Speaker 5: money instead of having to have recreational shooting because it
Speaker 5: could costs so much and it's such a pain and
Speaker 5: he asks to drive so far depending where you live
Speaker 5: to do it. You know, it's a very expensive hobby.
Speaker 5: And that's basically what it is. And I'm not advocating
Speaker 5: for disarming anybody. I think it's a bad idea. But
Speaker 5: the thing is, though, is that none of this is
Speaker 5: going to be used the way the Second Amendment was
Speaker 5: intended to be used for. None of these people are
Speaker 5: going to do it unless they're drunk, and it's a
Speaker 5: temporary emotional state that they're in. It gives them the
Speaker 5: courage as they drink and get drunker, they've become more courageous,
Speaker 5: you know, they've become more patriotic.
Speaker 4: But then they sober up and.
Speaker 5: It's time to go back to work, and it's time
Speaker 5: to go back to the system of slavery that everybody's
Speaker 5: locked into and not question anything. I think that's the
Speaker 5: beauty of alcohol For the establishment. They hate cannabis because
Speaker 5: it makes people think. It makes people more peaceful and
Speaker 5: gives them an ability to open their minds and expand
Speaker 5: their consciousness and think about things in a different way.
Speaker 4: So they don't want that. They don't want to louse
Speaker 4: engens because it does it as well.
Speaker 5: It can actually has personality enhancing abilities, it has, it
Speaker 5: has medical benefits. It isn't here because it's just here.
Speaker 5: There's a purpose for it being here. It's part of
Speaker 5: the design of our reality.
Speaker 2: But which calling, I think she was joking in she
Speaker 2: was like, is this a political show? And that I
Speaker 2: said in the China said no, we're just kind of
Speaker 2: we're kind of just throwing over current events, you know, before.
Speaker 5: You know. But the reason it's good to talk about
Speaker 5: this is because I think we need to kind of
Speaker 5: frame our world how badly it sucks. Yeah, we need
Speaker 5: to do it in a way that it incorporates everybody.
Speaker 5: This isn't a right versus left or anything like that.
Speaker 5: It's just a general discussion of a human condition right now.
Speaker 5: The idea, My idea of bringing this up is to
Speaker 5: kind of get it, to say it, and to kind
Speaker 5: of get it aside, but to set the stage for it,
Speaker 5: because this is what we're dealing with, and this is
Speaker 5: the reality that we need to get out of, and
Speaker 5: if we can't fix it, we need to exit. I'm
Speaker 5: not advocating suicide. We're all gonna die. So what happens
Speaker 5: when we and so let's get into that. Oh, if
Speaker 5: you want to talk about disclosure real quick, I just
Speaker 5: want to bring up with that, and then we'll get
Speaker 5: into what I wanted to talk about and what everybody
Speaker 5: wants to hear about. So the disclosure, I don't believe
Speaker 5: we're going to hear anything that Stephen Greer hasn't already said.
Speaker 5: And that's a controlled Stephen Greer puts out a very
Speaker 5: very controlled, limited form of disclosure. He does an eloquent
Speaker 5: job of explaining compartmentalization and how secrets are kept and
Speaker 5: information is held in different circles. He does a good
Speaker 5: job with that. He does a good job explaining the
Speaker 5: energy crisis that we're in. He does a good job.
Speaker 5: Only if there was only positive ets and they all
Speaker 5: wanted to help US, and the only problem that we
Speaker 5: had is our government. He doesn't get into the my
Speaker 5: lab programs. He doesn't get into any of the human
Speaker 5: trafficking being done by ETS in the military and these
Speaker 5: in these my lab programs and other ones that are
Speaker 5: associated with it. He doesn't get into evil extraterrestrial groups
Speaker 5: that are self serving and have like a corporate type
Speaker 5: of mentality to them to treat humanity as you know, basically.
Speaker 4: Livestock a resource. It doesn't get into any of that.
Speaker 5: So what we're going to see in this disclosure is
Speaker 5: going to be a review of everything since and since
Speaker 5: the denial of Roswell forward until now.
Speaker 4: And it's going to be a big disappointment for people.
Speaker 4: And if it goes any further than that, which it could,
Speaker 4: but it's not going to go very much further than that.
Speaker 4: It's not going to go very much farther.
Speaker 5: They may admit to something, they may admit that they're here,
Speaker 5: they don't understand what they're doing, they don't know. They're
Speaker 5: not working with them, you know, they're just monitoring and
Speaker 5: studying it, and they didn't want to upset anyone by
Speaker 5: talking about this any sooner. I don't know if this
Speaker 5: is accurate. But I heard for Facebook is so full
Speaker 5: of shit lately and always has been, is that there's
Speaker 5: been this these little uh basically post circulating around with
Speaker 5: no source to it. That that's says that the Pentagon
Speaker 5: is concerned about the religious implication of disclosure.
Speaker 4: That this is a big problem.
Speaker 5: And this goes back to the Brookings Institute where they
Speaker 5: talked about how the religious systems may collapse or be
Speaker 5: thrown into disarray in chaos if we admit that the
Speaker 5: extra trestrials are real, because then it just kind of
Speaker 5: brings them to question God's existence and who created us
Speaker 5: in all of that, and you know, it's about time
Speaker 5: that humanity grew up and accepted the real, ugly truth
Speaker 5: about what their origins and how this began. And we're
Speaker 5: sure as hell not going to get it from the government.
Speaker 5: So all this is is just another distraction. I expect Trump.
Speaker 5: I'd like to see Trump get release the big Foot files.
Speaker 5: I'd like to see him get to the Lockness Monster.
Speaker 5: I'd like to see him kind of uncover what happened
Speaker 5: to Jimmy Hoffa and all this stuff. But he can
Speaker 5: do a TV show after he leaves office. He can
Speaker 5: do like an apprentice, but it can be like the
Speaker 5: conspiracy Apprentice. He can do that and maybe even team
Speaker 5: up with William Shatner if they can stand one another
Speaker 5: and do a program together like that and talk about
Speaker 5: these subjects and do it on the History Channel. Because
Speaker 5: this isn't We're not gonna get real disclosure. We're gonna
Speaker 5: get bullshit. We're gonna get the same bs we've always gotten.
Speaker 5: And anyone who believes this and thinks that this is
Speaker 5: the gateway to a utopia is in for a very
Speaker 5: big root awakening. And I urge those people to wake
Speaker 5: up now and to smell the roses because and I
Speaker 5: also urge them too on this. Once this all blows
Speaker 5: over and it doesn't result in anything positive for anyone,
Speaker 5: I'd like to see the people that have been pushing
Speaker 5: these narratives to step up and be adults and to
Speaker 5: be kind to other people that they have inadvertently deceived
Speaker 5: because they've deceived their self by believing it, and they've
Speaker 5: been probably getting VTUK and other influences. I'd like to
Speaker 5: see people kind of, you know, atone for their sins
Speaker 5: and explain, hey, I was deceived. I see the light
Speaker 5: now I think we need to take a new direction
Speaker 5: and stop entertaining this stuff because we're not going to
Speaker 5: get the truth from the government.
Speaker 4: It just isn't going to happen.
Speaker 5: The government is under their control, it's under the extraterrestrial control.
Speaker 4: And I do not agree with the white hat narrative.
Speaker 5: I think by now, I think people were starting to
Speaker 5: realize there's always going to be the whole. You know,
Speaker 5: the people that really hold on to this concept, they're
Speaker 5: going to be the ones that it'll last to let
Speaker 5: go of it. And that's that's to be expected. But
Speaker 5: I hope that when it comes down to that and
Speaker 5: it's time to really to let go of that, are
Speaker 5: you still there?
Speaker 3: Oh my like went out you I gotta find it?
Speaker 3: Oh manre is okay, okay, signs itself out. Yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 5: Anyway, what I'd like to see is for the people
Speaker 5: that are proven wrong over time, that have been pushing
Speaker 5: these narratives, I'd really like to see them kind of
Speaker 5: just come back to the community and say, look, I
Speaker 5: was wrong, I've been deceived, and then everyone make up
Speaker 5: and come back together. Because all this does is it
Speaker 5: divides us. It makes us fight, It makes us to
Speaker 5: slake one another, just like it does with you know, politics.
Speaker 5: So you know, I hope that after this blows over,
Speaker 5: if we're still all still here, that things change for
Speaker 5: the better and we're not in this situation where we're
Speaker 5: waiting for the savior.
Speaker 4: We're waiting for Trump, waiting for the white ass to
Speaker 4: save us.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't happen because we really need to get
Speaker 5: back to focusing on saving ourselves.
Speaker 4: And so let's talk about that.
Speaker 5: So fundamentally, what we have in this world rob is
Speaker 5: a lack of love and compassion for one another. The
Speaker 5: system breeds that out of our conditions, that out of
Speaker 5: us where you know, where we have to And I've
Speaker 5: said this, I said this at the conference. I said,
Speaker 5: you cannot truly love someone and conditionally if you feel
Speaker 5: like you have to compete against them. And that's exactly
Speaker 5: what they've done in the slave system. They make us
Speaker 5: compete against one another. Everyone is competing for finite resources
Speaker 5: and reality aren't so finite.
Speaker 4: We're fighting over jobs, we're.
Speaker 5: Competing for that. I mean, it's ridiculous. The situation that
Speaker 5: you go through at work is inhumane and it's and
Speaker 5: it just is unwell. It kind of goes against a
Speaker 5: lot of positive spiritual principles. No one should be left behind,
Speaker 5: people should be taken care of, and we should be
Speaker 5: living in a world that focuses on loving one another
Speaker 5: and doing things out of that love instead of what
Speaker 5: we have as we have the exact opposite. And that's
Speaker 5: why we have these wars, that's why we have these
Speaker 5: liars that deceive people, That's why we have the division
Speaker 5: and all of these things. And it's a it's a
Speaker 5: it's a type of systemic rot that's in the system,
Speaker 5: and it's in it and it's in our hearts, and
Speaker 5: that's the problem. So anyway, that comes down to how
Speaker 5: do you get out of the simulation if you want
Speaker 5: to call it one. I wait till you finish texting that, buddy,
Speaker 5: because I gotta kind of distracts me a little bit.
Speaker 3: I was just sharing the link out. Sorry ahead, you just.
Speaker 4: Need your input.
Speaker 3: I'll let you.
Speaker 5: I'll let you finish, but I'm gonna I want to
Speaker 5: start on a basically, what I want to talk about is.
Speaker 4: Is what we have to do to shed the conditioning.
Speaker 5: And you know, we're conditioned to believe in saviors in
Speaker 5: our government were believed. We're conditioned to believe in religious
Speaker 5: saviors and we live in a simulation. So what is
Speaker 5: the simulation itself. It's a suppression of consciousness reduced down
Speaker 5: the five senses. We're also kept in the dark about
Speaker 5: science and religion and spirituality, so all of those are
Speaker 5: kind of like nested simulation. There are layers of a
Speaker 5: like a like an onion peel that that protects the
Speaker 5: truth and it keeps us from it, us us from
Speaker 5: the truth. So you have those different layers. So what
Speaker 5: the way this reality works? And I said it based
Speaker 5: and trauma based mind control, because if you're in that fight,
Speaker 5: fight and flight type of state of mind, rob you're
Speaker 5: not going to evolve spiritually.
Speaker 4: You're not going to learn to love one another unconditionally.
Speaker 5: You're always going to be seeing other people as an
Speaker 5: adversary or as a liability to yourself. So as long
Speaker 5: as you're kept in that you can call it. I'll
Speaker 5: use the term low vibrational frequency for those who.
Speaker 4: Use that term.
Speaker 5: But that low state of being, that negative state of mind,
Speaker 5: is what they want to keep us in because that's
Speaker 5: what helps the recycling system when we die. If we're
Speaker 5: in that state of mind, we're going to be recaptured
Speaker 5: and the belief that we only have five senses, that
Speaker 5: either you you live and you die and you cease
Speaker 5: to exist, or you believe in the religious belief system,
Speaker 5: which is not much different. It's there to limit your
Speaker 5: ability to get out of the system, to get out
Speaker 5: of this reincarnation cycle. So what you have to do
Speaker 5: is you have to spend your life stripping this away
Speaker 5: and you have to see it for what it is.
Speaker 5: So when I came in Little Girl as a child,
Speaker 5: I wanted to know why people weren't psychic, you know,
Speaker 5: I saw that there was problems, and I also wanted
Speaker 5: to know why we're constantly at war and why these
Speaker 5: problems never seem to go away and why And every
Speaker 5: time I turn on the TV and I watched the news,
Speaker 5: and you start here, we've got to fight for something everyone,
Speaker 5: we're always fighting, But who are we fighting with? And
Speaker 5: when you look at who you're fighting with, you're fighting
Speaker 5: with other people. So why would they want to live
Speaker 5: in a healthscape? And they're fighting for the healthscape and
Speaker 5: we've got to fight against them. You know, somebody's being
Speaker 5: something's wrong here, okay. So and it's all part of
Speaker 5: this control system.
Speaker 4: So what do you do.
Speaker 5: You have to start stripping it out of your system.
Speaker 5: Is you have to give yourself a spiritual enema. You've
Speaker 5: got to flush it out, and it starts. I started
Speaker 5: with religion, and you know, I realized that none of
Speaker 5: these religions were correct.
Speaker 4: In the beginning.
Speaker 5: I had a belief, okay, that you know, all the
Speaker 5: religions have some truth, they're all pathway back to God.
Speaker 5: Because I was listening to all of the people speak,
Speaker 5: and if I were to create a or just cut
Speaker 5: for me, I created an opinion or just a belief
Speaker 5: that these are all different avenues back. And I was
Speaker 5: going through this in my head back as far as
Speaker 5: five four or five years old.
Speaker 4: I'd sit in the.
Speaker 5: Tub and I'd contemplate philosophy and spirituality and the nature reality,
Speaker 5: whether ET's existed or not, literally with tugboats and little
Speaker 5: plastic sharks going around the tub.
Speaker 4: And that's what people need to do.
Speaker 5: Instead, they kind of get pulled into the entertainment complex,
Speaker 5: you know, and they just they get wrapped up in
Speaker 5: you know, the latest McDonald's burger or whatever it may be.
Speaker 5: You know, whatever distraction the system has, people invest their
Speaker 5: mind into it and they essentially go to sleep.
Speaker 4: So we really you have to get that out of
Speaker 4: your systems.
Speaker 5: So you have to realize that the only way to
Speaker 5: live is to live to love each other unconditionally if possible.
Speaker 5: Of course that's a work in progress. You can't love
Speaker 5: someone unconditionally if they're harming you. But you have to
Speaker 5: seek that connection with people. So you have to change
Speaker 5: fundamentally inside. And as you do, and you as you
Speaker 5: realize how toxic the environment is. As you change inside,
Speaker 5: you're pushing that out and you're and you're shedding those
Speaker 5: layers of that onion that was talking about. So, you know,
Speaker 5: I had an experience recently. Rob and I talked about
Speaker 5: a little bit about a little bit about it. Last
Speaker 5: time I spoke to I was on the Psionic League
Speaker 5: podcast last night with Sean Bond, and we talked about
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff. And Sean is an incredibly talented
Speaker 5: interviewer when it comes to these subjects because he has
Speaker 5: a vast knowledge of it. And you know, I was
Speaker 5: really interested in where he is with himself, and I'd
Speaker 5: have to say he's very advanced to what he's doing
Speaker 5: and the things that I had figured out right, you know,
Speaker 5: and I'll explain what they are ways of shielding myself.
Speaker 5: He had already done these things and and I asked him,
Speaker 5: I think it was all fair, I asked him, I said,
Speaker 5: how do you? I said, how did you learn all
Speaker 5: of this stuff? And I said, for me, it's been
Speaker 5: out of necessity. I said, I literally, and I'm taken
Speaker 5: to the brink of destruction and then my oversoul steps
Speaker 5: in and I suddenly can do something to save myself.
Speaker 4: But it's almost it's always the case.
Speaker 5: I'm taken right to the edge where I'm going to
Speaker 5: fail and I'm going to die and my life's over
Speaker 5: before I get help. And I said, I guess that's
Speaker 5: the best way to learn something because you have the
Speaker 5: most the most inspiration to learn it, and it's out
Speaker 5: of necessity and survival. And you know, he said, that's
Speaker 5: the same thing has been happening to him. So it
Speaker 5: was it was a really incrediblarity.
Speaker 4: You check it out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Sean's like really advanced. You know, I have
Speaker 3: them on all the time.
Speaker 2: I usually just have him on as a guest, but
Speaker 2: you know, he shows his et artifacts and then he
Speaker 2: does readings on here like he doesn't he does amazing
Speaker 2: readings for people too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know what you mean. He's a really
Speaker 3: he's a really gifted like individual. You know, he's he's
Speaker 3: like next level with his knowledge, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: he really is.
Speaker 5: It comes down to, like I've said, and you've got
Speaker 5: to expel the you have to expel the programming, and
Speaker 5: that's that's what he's done. When I you know, when
Speaker 5: I sat down with him, and when I met him
Speaker 5: at the conference, it was a very calm energy inside him. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't get a lot because you know,
Speaker 5: you meet people and they've been through a lot of
Speaker 5: crap and things and hard chips in their lives, and
Speaker 5: you know, their their lives and uh, you know, they
Speaker 5: wear those scars. Sean has been able to heal from
Speaker 5: things and he's been able to get past a lot
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 4: And for those people that are wondering, like.
Speaker 5: How is he able to do all of this and
Speaker 5: not get completely wasted by you know, the targeting, it's
Speaker 5: because he's developed ways through connecting with his oversoul to
Speaker 5: block targeting.
Speaker 4: And I've done some of that myself.
Speaker 5: And we were swapping like you know, sharing information, and
Speaker 5: we were doing basically the same thing almost seeing it
Speaker 5: in the same.
Speaker 4: Way, you know.
Speaker 5: And anyway, I got a chance to talk to him
Speaker 5: about the experience that I had, and I wanted to
Speaker 5: kind of and I talked about this with you last
Speaker 5: time I was here, but I wanted to really get
Speaker 5: into it in depth and detail so that people understand.
Speaker 5: You know, I've got alters. I've been in the programs
Speaker 5: and I've been through all of this stuff, and I've
Speaker 5: had handlers. I'm one of the few people, and when
Speaker 5: I say few, I mean the people that are going public,
Speaker 5: not all of them, have had the opportunity to have
Speaker 5: an interaction with a handler as many as many hours
Speaker 5: of the day that I've had for many, many months
Speaker 5: on end, which is over sixteen hours a day every week,
Speaker 5: for the moment I'd open my eyes and the you know,
Speaker 5: I'd wake up in the morning and the handler would
Speaker 5: be talking to me, almost saying good morning, Nate. Imagine that.
Speaker 5: I mean, just like it's like boom, there's the handler
Speaker 5: talking to you. If you voice the skull the moment
Speaker 5: you wake up, and it doesn't stop. The argument, the attack,
Speaker 5: the harassment doesn't stop until you get a bit And
Speaker 5: this is day after day after day to work a
Speaker 5: point where I would have to interact with people and
Speaker 5: talk and have one conversation going. Meanwhile, there's an argument
Speaker 5: going on in my head. So my mouth is saying
Speaker 5: one thing, my mind, my inner voice is arguing with
Speaker 5: this terrible individual that works for the military industrial complex.
Speaker 5: So I took the opportunity to learn from this individual
Speaker 5: by studying the methods of suppression and brutality and harassment
Speaker 5: and that you know that analyze the pattern of lies,
Speaker 5: and I look for information between those words, and I
Speaker 5: learned a lot from it. So you know, it's a
Speaker 5: knowledge that can be used if it's properly put out
Speaker 5: to the public for the people who need it. So
Speaker 5: I'm hoping maybe I can figure out a way to
Speaker 5: do that, maybe in a book or something at some point.
Speaker 5: But I learned a lot from it, and you know
Speaker 5: what I what I what I learned was is that
Speaker 5: when you constantly apply trauma to someone, not only do
Speaker 5: you weaken them and you make them easier to control
Speaker 5: that way, but you limit their ability to get out
Speaker 5: of the situation they're in. Yet that you can't if
Speaker 5: you're traumatized and you're not healed, you can't move past
Speaker 5: the problems that you're in, and you're not going to
Speaker 5: be able to get out of this reincarnation cycle.
Speaker 4: You really have to transform who you are in order
Speaker 4: to do this. And I was talking.
Speaker 5: I've talked about over soul integration for example, versus alter integration.
Speaker 5: You know, alter integration is okay, it needs to be done,
Speaker 5: but it needs to be done after over soul integration.
Speaker 5: You've got to ground yourself with your higher self or
Speaker 5: over soul.
Speaker 4: And what that is.
Speaker 5: For the people that aren't clear on the you know
Speaker 5: what exactly an oversaul is. It's every aspect of your
Speaker 5: being across space and time. And I'm gonna and when
Speaker 5: I say space and time, I'm just speaking in the
Speaker 5: limited terms here, because we live in a linear type
Speaker 5: of we live under linear time, and I believe that
Speaker 5: has to do with the fact that we're under a
Speaker 5: kind of AI controlled reality that needs linear time because
Speaker 5: it has an order of operations where it processes information.
Speaker 5: The cause and effect of every action has to be processed,
Speaker 5: and it has to be done in a linear manner
Speaker 5: in stages. So it's an order of operations, just like
Speaker 5: it will once you if you learn computer science, you
Speaker 5: know there's an order of operations to every computation that
Speaker 5: computer does, so that creates the need for linear time.
Speaker 5: So the linear time construct is here in the EM universe.
Speaker 5: It's not present outside this EM universe. And what I
Speaker 5: believe is is that we are literally in a neutrino universe,
Speaker 5: meaning that we're in a universe native neutrinos, but it
Speaker 5: has an augmented reality overlay. It's electromagnetism. It's electromagnetic. Some
Speaker 5: people might not know what you're talking about. Okay, if
Speaker 5: you look up neutrino science and there's very little bit
Speaker 5: of actually they know very little about it. You hear
Speaker 5: stuff about the ghost particle concern and things like that.
Speaker 5: But the real ghost particle is a neutrino. It can pass.
Speaker 5: It can it can travel faster than the speed of light.
Speaker 5: It is not It has no speed limits. It's limited
Speaker 5: to essentilly perception consciousness, so it travels at the speed
Speaker 5: of thought. It has no electrical charge, so it's non electromagnetic.
Speaker 5: It doesn't you know, it doesn't obey any of those rules.
Speaker 5: And if you were to take and this is an
Speaker 5: analogy that I that I read in a magazine, if
Speaker 5: you were to take a neutrino, Well, actually, if you
Speaker 5: were to take the distance tree the Earth in the
Speaker 5: sun and fill that space and with a big solid
Speaker 5: piece of lead, like a big wall of lead between
Speaker 5: the Earth and the Sun, you could send a neutrino
Speaker 5: through that wall of lead faster than the speed of light,
Speaker 5: at an infinite speed where where speed doesn't even matter.
Speaker 5: It's there at the speed of thought, and it could
Speaker 5: travel through without any physical resistance. So it's like, basically,
Speaker 5: it's the building blocks of reality. And what it is
Speaker 5: is that it's the state of what we consider to
Speaker 5: be the physical reality or matter or experience, but we
Speaker 5: see it through an electromagnetic distortion to where everything seems
Speaker 5: to be electromagnetic in nature. And I hear people talk
Speaker 5: about the soul being electromagnetic because you know, when people
Speaker 5: do ghost investigations, they detect electromagnetic anomalies in the environment
Speaker 5: when the spirit appears and manifest So to think that
Speaker 5: the soul is electromagnetic in nature, it's not.
Speaker 4: It's neutrino and scalar wave based.
Speaker 5: So the reason that you're having an electromagnetic spike in
Speaker 5: the environment is because you essentially have a soul which
Speaker 5: is non electromagnetic, that's shifting itself. It's into this electromagnetic reality.
Speaker 5: It's in the overlay that we're in and it's causing
Speaker 5: a distortion, and that distortion is creating the magnetic field
Speaker 5: that people are excuse me, the magnetic field that people
Speaker 5: are detecting in these investigations. When spaceships travel into our
Speaker 5: cosmic jors and they arrive at Earth, they release neutrinos.
Speaker 5: When when souls, when people remote view inside military bases
Speaker 5: where they're not supposed to be, they have neutrino detectors,
Speaker 5: so they can detect neutrinos and they and they can detect.
Speaker 4: The soul by doing them.
Speaker 5: So I believe that our expression, our expression of consciousness,
Speaker 5: our thoughts are are our collectiveception of reality is a
Speaker 5: is a kind of a concert of standing.
Speaker 4: Scalar waves.
Speaker 5: Scalar waves are like the much like a neutrino, like
Speaker 5: you know, it has the ghost particle characteristics to it,
Speaker 5: but it's a wave for so this is the waveform
Speaker 5: that's non hurts in, which means it's non electromagnetic, and
Speaker 5: anything hurts in is the em spectrum. So it's non
Speaker 5: hurts in and it doesn't obey the rules of the
Speaker 5: electromagnetic or electric universe. So it's the ghost wave in
Speaker 5: the ghost particle. And that's and I believe that we're
Speaker 5: really in a neutrino universe and our expression of consciousness
Speaker 5: and existence is a scalar wave form. I believe the
Speaker 5: soul is a standing scalar wave form, which is two
Speaker 5: waveforms colliding and they create basically like a wave in
Speaker 5: the ocean. And that's what a standing scalar wave form is.
Speaker 5: And I'd like to relate the standing scalar waveform to
Speaker 5: the neural to then I would say, I guess the
Speaker 5: best way to put this would be the neurological pathways
Speaker 5: in the brain. When you have a memory in your brain,
Speaker 5: you have a loop of neurons that fire. So anything
Speaker 5: that you remember in your in your subconscious or your
Speaker 5: conscious mind that you're that's stored in your brain.
Speaker 4: Is a firing loop of neurons. The firing loop of neurons.
Speaker 5: And various ways is similar to what I'm talking about
Speaker 5: as a standing scalar wave form. It's just that we're
Speaker 5: looking at kind of a you know, the brain is
Speaker 5: a biological computer, but the mind of God or the
Speaker 5: creator is an infinite mind and its thoughts, its expressions
Speaker 5: are scalar waveforms standing. So when so when a soul
Speaker 5: is created and a memory of this individual is made,
Speaker 5: that's a standing scalar wave form, if that makes sense
Speaker 5: to people. And this is kind of something where I'm
Speaker 5: taking science and I'm twisting it. I'm bending it and
Speaker 5: giving it a new definition because they're not going to
Speaker 5: take us there.
Speaker 4: They're only going to take it so far, and we're only.
Speaker 5: We're basically dropped off of the porch of the electromagnetic universe,
Speaker 5: but we're never letting into the house to find out
Speaker 5: the rest of the story. So sciences, like I said,
Speaker 5: it's a false system of sciences because they're not going
Speaker 5: to tell us exactly how you can travel through space.
Speaker 5: You're not going to tell us that there's infinite energy
Speaker 5: out there that can be tapped into. When we tap
Speaker 5: into the so called zero point energy. And they say
Speaker 5: we're pulling energy or electrons from the vacuum, Essentially what
Speaker 5: we're doing is pulling energy from the neutrino universe, which
Speaker 5: is all around us.
Speaker 4: We're in it, it's just we see it in a distortion.
Speaker 5: So our reality is supposed to be much more fluid
Speaker 5: than it is even a third or fifth density. Our
Speaker 5: reality is much more fluid than we experience it. The
Speaker 5: Ets have a more fluid experience in their reality because
Speaker 5: we're in a type of pocket simulation or planetary consciousness
Speaker 5: simulation that reduces our ability to sense our reality individually
Speaker 5: and collectively within this type of construct.
Speaker 4: So we're basically a prisoner on a.
Speaker 5: Planet under a very very limited five cents type of
Speaker 5: access to you know, the overall master or you know,
Speaker 5: collective reality. And I think inside this universe itself and
Speaker 5: whatever various levels that it has to it, and this
Speaker 5: is the end, and I'm referring to the et experience
Speaker 5: is that they're locked into a limited frame of mind
Speaker 5: as well, because outside of this it's a completely different reality.
Speaker 5: And I want to explain that reality a bit. So anyway,
Speaker 5: going back about two years or so, you know, I've
Speaker 5: been heavily targeted and everything and going through all of
Speaker 5: this stuff being grass and being with you know, directed
Speaker 5: energy and being made sick. I had many many surgeries
Speaker 5: close to twenty and I'm kind of lucky just to
Speaker 5: be functional at this point. And so you know, finally
Speaker 5: I started to get contact from an altar and his
Speaker 5: name is Jonathan Rawley. And Jonathan Rawleigh was in IS
Speaker 5: or still is or was I don't know in this
Speaker 5: In the SSP, I phased into him, and I don't
Speaker 5: know the context of it, if it was a past memory,
Speaker 5: another timeline, or if it's that, if it's in the present,
Speaker 5: but he was. But he was on a spacecraft. He
Speaker 5: had a private room in the ship, and he was
Speaker 5: and this was a place to go to take a break.
Speaker 5: So he was high up in whatever you know, leadership
Speaker 5: level it is, you know, to pile of the craft,
Speaker 5: to have a private break room from the rest of
Speaker 5: the crew, whatever that entails. But anyway, he told me,
Speaker 5: you know, he said, because my main thing was, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm getting I'm not getting any younger. Obviously, I know
Speaker 5: they want to kill me in my fifties, and this
Speaker 5: is the handlers. And I said, when you think they're
Speaker 5: going to try to kill me, he said, they're going
Speaker 5: to try to take you out by age fifty five.
Speaker 5: And I just turned fifty two a couple of days ago,
Speaker 5: so this is like a three year window going through
Speaker 5: my life. I've always realized that I wasn't going to
Speaker 5: grow old. It was never in the intent, it was
Speaker 5: never in the scheme, it was never in the plan.
Speaker 5: And I always felt that intuitively, it'd either die in
Speaker 5: my forties or my fifties. Once the fake contact with
Speaker 5: the ET started, which actually wasn't even ET's it was
Speaker 5: the US military working with ETS then using a remote
Speaker 5: mind control tech the voice to skull and other technologies
Speaker 5: to simulate alien contact. You know, they painted that same picture,
Speaker 5: You're going to die around fifty two or so, So
Speaker 5: fifty two to fifty three. They kept it open within
Speaker 5: this window of like fifty one, fifty to fifty five,
Speaker 5: I guess you could say, and a five year windows.
Speaker 5: What they kept telling me that this was the plan
Speaker 5: for me. They were going to pull me out of
Speaker 5: this therapeutic lifetime, this engineered lifetime experience, which was total bunk.
Speaker 5: The only engineering in my lifetime was done to suppress
Speaker 5: me and harm me because I'm in the programs. I'm
Speaker 5: in their custody, I'm their prisoner, I'm their slave, and
Speaker 5: that's basically what it is. So I'm asking this alter
Speaker 5: and I had a couple of different discussions, the last one,
Speaker 5: which is all like two years ago, and I haven't
Speaker 5: had any correspondents since close to two years ago. And
Speaker 5: I said to him, I said, well, you know, how
Speaker 5: do I get out of this? How do I get
Speaker 5: out of this situation? I know that death is the
Speaker 5: exit to you know, to get out of this bondage?
Speaker 3: What do I do?
Speaker 2: And you know how do I do it?
Speaker 5: He says, you'll remember before you die. So sure enough,
Speaker 5: that's what happened. A couple of months ago. I was
Speaker 5: in a situation where it was a big financial career.
Speaker 5: I was at a financial crisis. I was getting ready
Speaker 5: to lose my house, so you know, we had to
Speaker 5: borrow money. And I talked about this in the last podcast,
Speaker 5: and you know, I had faced this. This has been
Speaker 5: something that they've been trying to do. The handlers have
Speaker 5: been trying to get me to lose my house the
Speaker 5: point where I would come homeless or have to live
Speaker 5: with family, and I don't want to do that. I
Speaker 5: see that every potential opportunity for giving back to the
Speaker 5: world or doing anything positive, even surviving, would be stripped
Speaker 5: away if I didn't have my home base. And at
Speaker 5: fifty two, with health problems, it's not possible to kind
Speaker 5: of reinvent yourself and start from the ground up as
Speaker 5: being homeless and building yourself back up, especially.
Speaker 4: With health problems so and a lot of debt. So
Speaker 4: you know, it was to the point where, you know,
Speaker 4: if I lose my house, then that's kind of the
Speaker 4: SDN for me. So what do I do? You know,
Speaker 4: how do I get out of this?
Speaker 5: And unfortunately, checking myself out unliving myself was one of
Speaker 5: these things that I had that I had to confront
Speaker 5: and it's it's part of the Omega programming that we
Speaker 5: get because that's always something that they want to do.
Speaker 5: They want to keep you on the edge of ending
Speaker 5: your own life so that they can gain consent to
Speaker 5: kill you. That's one of the strategies that they use.
Speaker 5: As long as you don't want to live, then you're
Speaker 5: not going to object and I'm killing you. So that's
Speaker 5: their version of gaining consent from you to take you
Speaker 5: out at any time. So I realized that I had
Speaker 5: to I had to change that, I had to find
Speaker 5: a reason to live. But I had to understand who
Speaker 5: I was. So when I started going public on your show, Rob,
Speaker 5: that was part of that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I had to kind of give myself something to do,
Speaker 5: not just to find out what was wrong and going
Speaker 5: on with my life and get answers. But I knew
Speaker 5: intuitively that I had to take this path and suffer
Speaker 5: the consequences because it was the way out and what
Speaker 5: I've always done in my life. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 5: if I've gotten myself into a mess or not, because
Speaker 5: when I followed my intuition, it often led me into messes,
Speaker 5: to predicaments, like getting involved in a Satanic cult, for example,
Speaker 5: which was really not even Satanic, it was a cult
Speaker 5: it was. It was an annochy cult being run by
Speaker 5: the military. I had to go in there is they
Speaker 5: wanted me to go in. But from an oversoul perspective,
Speaker 5: the goal there was to experience that and learn from
Speaker 5: it and then use that information that I gained to
Speaker 5: warn other people about it. And I've been warning other
Speaker 5: people for several years now. You know about the voice,
Speaker 5: the skull, about the deceptions and what I see in
Speaker 5: the communities. There's a growing number of people who recognize
Speaker 5: it and get it on their own or have heard
Speaker 5: of for me, and I've helped along with the process
Speaker 5: of waking up, and they see through the deceptions. But
Speaker 5: there's so many other people that don't, and it seems
Speaker 5: like there's more and more every day that don't. So
Speaker 5: it's almost as if I'm yelling into it, like I'm
Speaker 5: yelling into the Grand Canyon, and I'm only hearing my
Speaker 5: echo come back. Nobody's responding. So it's disappointing in that way,
Speaker 5: but that's to be expected. There's too many deceptions, and
Speaker 5: I'm not out there all the time telling people about it.
Speaker 5: And it takes more than one person, so I can't
Speaker 5: put all that responsibility on myself. But that was part
Speaker 5: of my healing process, and I knew that I had
Speaker 5: to do that. So I've always followed my intuition. And
Speaker 5: so when I asked this altered version of me, you know,
Speaker 5: how am I going to get out of this? He said,
Speaker 5: you'll remember before you die, and I'm like, okay, that's
Speaker 5: not a whole lot to go on, you know. But
Speaker 5: what kept me believing that he was on my side
Speaker 5: and not just a product of the Handlers is because
Speaker 5: the things that he told me, that the advice that
Speaker 5: he gave it was always to resist the handlers. It
Speaker 5: was always to to do everything that I needed to
Speaker 5: do to survive.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 4: So once I started listening, it started to change.
Speaker 5: And it was also in me in my intuitive sense
Speaker 5: that I had to go through the bondage aspect of this,
Speaker 5: the mind control, to learn from it, and I had
Speaker 5: to kind of graduate from that the point where I
Speaker 5: took the control back so I don't look at what
Speaker 5: I've been through is it's bad, It's terrible, But at
Speaker 5: the same time, it wasn't a mistake. I had to
Speaker 5: go through this because I have to be able to
Speaker 5: gain this knowledge and or not just to get out
Speaker 5: of the system, but to help other people do the
Speaker 5: same and help them resist these terrible deceptions that divide
Speaker 5: us and make us support evil when we're good people
Speaker 5: and it's not you know, we shouldn't be doing it,
Speaker 5: but deception, delusion is what causes us to do it.
Speaker 5: So here I was in this situation. I'm confronted with, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm going to learn how to get out. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: remember how.
Speaker 4: To get out.
Speaker 5: Well, I was thinking today when I was at the bank,
Speaker 5: you know what would would there be a better way
Speaker 5: for me to wake up and remember how to get
Speaker 5: out of the system. How did they get out of
Speaker 5: the matrix or the simulation. And when I thought about it,
Speaker 5: I couldn't really come up with a better, a better
Speaker 5: way to do it than the way it happened. So
Speaker 5: this is how it happened. I'm in this financial crisis situation.
Speaker 5: I'm confronted with, you know, having to either exit on
Speaker 5: my own accord, you know, which is something I didn't
Speaker 5: want to do because it hurts the people around you.
Speaker 5: You leave in a state of trauma. It's not the
Speaker 5: way I wanted to go, you know. I wanted this
Speaker 5: to kind of like in the in the you know,
Speaker 5: the right way, where I died of natural causes, not
Speaker 5: because the handlers killed me and not because I took
Speaker 5: my own life.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I died because my body gave out on its own.
Speaker 5: And when that takes place, that's usually the over soul
Speaker 5: saying it's time to get you. It's time to get
Speaker 5: out my piece, my fragment of self that's been projected
Speaker 5: into this electromagnetic universe reality construct or simulation. So, and
Speaker 5: this is the interesting thing, this is the kind of
Speaker 5: the meat of the podcast.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting on the couch and I'm watching my
Speaker 5: wife talk to the bank, and I know what's going
Speaker 5: to happen, and the reason why I was in the
Speaker 5: situation is that it took too many days to get
Speaker 5: the money together to pay two months actually, so I
Speaker 5: think it was either we had to pay, yeah, we
Speaker 5: had to pay one month, and if we didn't pay
Speaker 5: a one month on time, it turned into three months.
Speaker 5: They were working a deal, and they'd kind of put
Speaker 5: up with us being late and being behind a month
Speaker 5: or two, and it's kind of got worse and financially.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things happen to cause this. And
Speaker 5: I was under a type of employment suppression as well,
Speaker 5: where you'd go for a job and you'd apply for it.
Speaker 4: But strings were being pulled behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: People were you know, if it wasn't AI reviewing your
Speaker 5: application and resume, it would be a human being looking
Speaker 5: at it. And the handlers were able to nudge them
Speaker 5: away from even giving me an interview. So this went
Speaker 5: on for years, never being able to get an interviewed
Speaker 5: applying for jobs since twenty sixteen and not getting an interview.
Speaker 5: And now we're on the twenty twenty five and I'm
Speaker 5: still looking for a job and I still haven't gotten
Speaker 5: an interview, and people can't They just like, how's that possible.
Speaker 5: Don't you apply for fast food? I'm like, well, eventually
Speaker 5: I did, and I didn't get anywhere there either. Okay, So,
Speaker 5: and the longer you're out of the workforce, the more
Speaker 5: impossible it is to get back in the system does not.
Speaker 4: Reward that.
Speaker 5: It's like, you're a slave, and you weren't a slave
Speaker 5: for these years. What were you doing while I was sick?
Speaker 5: Or I was taking care of someone, which was the
Speaker 5: case both of those. They don't want to hear that.
Speaker 5: They want to hit you got to be a good
Speaker 5: little slave. And we want to see a work history.
Speaker 5: So if you've got a gap in your work history
Speaker 5: that you can't account for other than to say I
Speaker 5: was either sick with COVID on COVID, spine injuries, whatever,
Speaker 5: and in my case it was both, but it was
Speaker 5: also was taking care of my grandmother.
Speaker 4: That is like the kiss of death.
Speaker 5: They don't want people who have taken care of a
Speaker 5: relative who's been out of work for ten years, five years,
Speaker 5: or even a year. They'd rather not hire you ever again,
Speaker 5: even if it's for a job that they can't keep
Speaker 5: anybody in, such as a high turnover position. These people
Speaker 5: last a week and they quit. They'd rather hire somebody
Speaker 5: that lasted a week at their previous job. Now are
Speaker 5: coming here to last a week and hire somebody that
Speaker 5: hasn't worked in a couple of years. So you've got
Speaker 5: all of that against you. So you know, here I
Speaker 5: am in a situation I can't do anything else. I
Speaker 5: can't do anything more. So I'm confronted with, you know,
Speaker 5: taking my own life or trying to find a way
Speaker 5: out of this. And I'm always trying to figure out
Speaker 5: a way out and trying to come up with plan
Speaker 5: B and C. So I'm sitting there listening to this
Speaker 5: and I know that it's coming, you know, I know that,
Speaker 5: you know, they're going to say three months, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: how am I going to do that? You know, So
Speaker 5: it wasn't any means to do it. And of course
Speaker 5: I got that news right, you know, she said it,
Speaker 5: and once she said it, it triggered something in me,
Speaker 5: and which point I realized that the intuition that we
Speaker 5: have comes from our oversaul. It doesn't come from anything else,
Speaker 5: and it's not coming from an external source. It's coming
Speaker 5: from an internal source. So and then I you know,
Speaker 5: and that intuition has been with me all my life.
Speaker 5: And I had this epiphany moment, which I'll explain in
Speaker 5: a moment as I as I get into it.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there and all of.
Speaker 5: A sudden, now I'm not just on the sofa anymore
Speaker 5: in this miserable situation confronting my own the end of
Speaker 5: my life, homelessness, and all of this other stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not confronting that anymore. I'm actually in
Speaker 4: the void.
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting on I can feel myself sitting on
Speaker 5: a couch, but I'm also in a different perspective. I'm
Speaker 5: seeing myself in the future. I'm in the void after death,
Speaker 5: and I'm seeing this image in my mind's eye, but
Speaker 5: I'm not just seeing it. I'm experiencing it as if
Speaker 5: i'm there. So here, I was in the void and
Speaker 5: I and I'm complete. And what was a very pleasant
Speaker 5: surprise to me is that I realized that all of
Speaker 5: the work that I've done to block their frequencies, to
Speaker 5: block their tethers and to keep them out of my
Speaker 5: system from controlling me and getting into my mind and
Speaker 5: influencing me and being able to affect my body physiologically
Speaker 5: with their tech that that was preventing them from doing
Speaker 5: it after death and the void.
Speaker 4: So, and I've talked about this before.
Speaker 5: When you're in my lab programs, even if you're not
Speaker 5: when you die, you're you were going to be put
Speaker 5: into a situation where they're going to hit you with frequencies.
Speaker 5: So if you're a regular person and they just want
Speaker 5: to recycle you back in the system, you're going to
Speaker 5: see a tonnel of light and you're going to be
Speaker 5: hit with this frequency that makes you feel love. It's
Speaker 5: going to make it's going to feel like uncondish love.
Speaker 5: It's going to be comforting and wonderful, and it's going
Speaker 5: to welcome you into then you you you feel like
Speaker 5: you want to go into the light because that's where
Speaker 5: everybody that you loved is and it's where home is,
Speaker 5: and it makes it feel so good. Now I talked
Speaker 5: about earlier, Rob I said, what if this system was
Speaker 5: designed to kind of like cradle you and take care
Speaker 5: of you and comfort you through a very intense experience.
Speaker 5: Or you're going into a lower density reality, but it's
Speaker 5: kind of an artificial construct because there's guardrails to reality.
Speaker 5: Now you're not aware of who you really are anymore.
Speaker 5: You're under state of amnesia and you're living this harsh
Speaker 5: reality of say the earthplane, and there's these guardrails reality.
Speaker 5: It's like you're limited in your ability to access information.
Speaker 5: The collective mind is cut off from you. You're not
Speaker 5: tele thepathic, for example, or maybe you are, but it's
Speaker 5: to a lower degree, and you're not aware of your
Speaker 5: real situation. Neither's anybody else. Situation is is that there's
Speaker 5: another version of you that your master yourself, that's all
Speaker 5: of yourselves, all of your personalities, everything you've ever been,
Speaker 5: all into one being, which is your oversoul, and that
Speaker 5: that being, that part of you, is actually a being
Speaker 5: that's very easy to comprehend because it's it's you, and
Speaker 5: it can be anything at once. It can take form
Speaker 5: and however once and it's in a much more fluid
Speaker 5: reality than this, and it's not just like a repository
Speaker 5: of lifetimes and information. It's actually a real existence that
Speaker 5: you're living parallel to this one. So you say, that's
Speaker 5: what I gained from this experience because I didn't understand
Speaker 5: the nature of the higher self or the over soul,
Speaker 5: what that really was. It's literally you, the whole being,
Speaker 5: but The difference is is that you've got the ability
Speaker 5: to access.
Speaker 4: All timelines that you're part of and anyone that you're
Speaker 4: not part of.
Speaker 5: You have the ability to experience time forward, reverse and
Speaker 5: sideways meaning different sideways as different parallel timelines where there's
Speaker 5: different realities that you're working and operating and fluctioning in
Speaker 5: and you have access to all of that simultaneously. And
Speaker 5: even to make this more complicated, you know, the past,
Speaker 5: press of present, and future all are all happening at
Speaker 5: the same time. We're essentially a thought in a mind,
Speaker 5: an infinite mind that that's experiencing itself. And if we
Speaker 5: are completely real and independent of the whole, but we're not.
Speaker 5: We're just an expression of God, God seeing itself through us.
Speaker 5: So in that reality, in that frame of mind, you
Speaker 5: can access to everything at one time.
Speaker 4: Here, but here you're just a little piece of yourself.
Speaker 5: So I'm experiencing myself now in this situation, I was
Speaker 5: in in two different distinct places and times within and
Speaker 5: none ar time. I was experiencing nonlinear time basically at
Speaker 5: this point, and I realized that that psychic abilities, intuition,
Speaker 5: and these experiences are all rooted in the oversoul or
Speaker 5: you're being hijacked one or the other. So you know,
Speaker 5: they could stay these types of things. They could have
Speaker 5: created this experience for me to have on the council
Speaker 5: I was describing earlier, but I knew that they weren't
Speaker 5: because at this point I had reached a point where
Speaker 5: I could differentiate when it was them and when it
Speaker 5: wasn't them, and I.
Speaker 4: Could keep them out of my consciousness.
Speaker 5: To these two degree over ninety pursue over ninety percent ratio,
Speaker 5: I was able to keep over ninety percent continuity of
Speaker 5: self and completely push them and their influence out referring
Speaker 5: to the handlers, And this goes back to stripping away
Speaker 5: those layers of beliefs that there's older belief systems that
Speaker 5: were put into me through this experience, that you know,
Speaker 5: were conditioned into me. I had to strip all of
Speaker 5: that out over the course of my life to even
Speaker 5: get to this point. So you know, here I am,
Speaker 5: and I'm in two places at once, and I'm seeing
Speaker 5: the tunnel of light and it's growing in intensity. It's
Speaker 5: not moving towards me because in this space, and I
Speaker 5: say that kind of like tongue in cheap way, because
Speaker 5: there wasn't a physical space there.
Speaker 4: It was just pure presence. So in other words, I'm in.
Speaker 5: Avoid I don't have a body, but I also have
Speaker 5: no sense that there's space behind me. So in other words,
Speaker 5: I'm able to see everything at one time in this
Speaker 5: space and it's just the darkness. There's no sense of
Speaker 5: space behind me, so there's no way somebody could sneak
Speaker 5: up on me. I don't have to look behind myself
Speaker 5: because there's nothing back there. Everything is in the front
Speaker 5: field of view. And it's a different way of seeing things, obviously,
Speaker 5: because we don't we're not used to seeing things and
Speaker 5: we're not used to thinking in that way.
Speaker 4: But it's pure perception. So there was no space.
Speaker 5: There was no concept of three dimensional space in this void,
Speaker 5: which is another thing that.
Speaker 4: Before this experience, I thought that there was.
Speaker 5: I thought that there were some thing that I could
Speaker 5: relate to, and people talk about exploring these vast expanses
Speaker 5: of realms or things during near death experiences. There's a
Speaker 5: guy out there. He looks maybe African American or Jamaican.
Speaker 5: He's got long hair of dreadlocks. His name is but
Speaker 5: he's famous for having a near death experience. And now
Speaker 5: I think out of body experiences where he talks about
Speaker 5: leaving the body in an NDE and experiencing all these
Speaker 5: different realities that he thinks are part of the heavenly realm,
Speaker 5: and what he's experiencing is AI, and he's experiencing the
Speaker 5: planetary consciousness simulation in its outer layers. So instead of
Speaker 5: just being locked into the three D reality of being
Speaker 5: in your body, he's exited his body and he's now
Speaker 5: seeing the virtual reality AI construct that you go through
Speaker 5: if you don't go into the tunnel, and there's all
Speaker 5: of this other stuff to experience, but it's a virtual
Speaker 5: reality type system, so it's a containment system for your
Speaker 5: soul and your consciousness. But anyway, I'm in this void
Speaker 5: and when the tunnel got bigger, it wasn't getting closer
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 4: It was just growing in intensity.
Speaker 5: And what was interesting, like I said before, kind of
Speaker 5: got sidetracked this is you get hit with a frequency
Speaker 5: it makes you forget the context of self. So in
Speaker 5: the normal way things would have went if I didn't
Speaker 5: do all of this work and learn to resist their
Speaker 5: frequencies and their tech, because that's what they're using when
Speaker 5: you're in this void, is they're using the same technology
Speaker 5: that the ETS used to harvest souls to recycle them.
Speaker 5: This is in the hands of the United States military
Speaker 5: and other military entities around the world, agencies or whatever
Speaker 5: that have cut deals with these ets. So I literally
Speaker 5: had a craft behind the tunnel of light. I couldn't
Speaker 5: see it, but I could sense it. There is a
Speaker 5: There was an asset retainment team, a group of my
Speaker 5: lab well basically a group of military in the military
Speaker 5: personnel that were most likely alters for people living in society,
Speaker 5: just like I have altars, what other people do. It's
Speaker 5: the altars that come and try to get you to
Speaker 5: recycle you if you're in the programs, and they use
Speaker 5: technology to produce that tunnel of light. So it's like
Speaker 5: a it's like a mobile soul recycling system worth the
Speaker 5: big one that's installed around the planet that entraps everybody else,
Speaker 5: and it works on the same basic principle. It's coercing
Speaker 5: consent from you using deception. So it makes you feel comfortable,
Speaker 5: it makes you feel good, it makes you want to
Speaker 5: go into it. And like I said, this is likely
Speaker 5: a repurposing of a system that was designed to do
Speaker 5: that to send you back to the source field aka
Speaker 5: the Neutriner universe, which is the master creation teply that
Speaker 5: our creator may it's our master reality that we've come
Speaker 5: from and forgotten. So here I am in this situation,
Speaker 5: and I was fully coherent, which was a huge accomplishment
Speaker 5: because it didn't. What that means is is that I'm
Speaker 5: fully aware of what's happening. I'm not under the suppression
Speaker 5: of consciousness, this aumented state of mind that they'd put
Speaker 5: you onder after death, meaning that you forgot that you died,
Speaker 5: You forgot your family, forgot your situation, you don't remember
Speaker 5: the mind left programs. You're just present and you're being
Speaker 5: hit with a love bomb type frequency. It's pulling you
Speaker 5: into this tunnel for recycling, at which point you're going
Speaker 5: to be lied to mind wipe and reassigned. No different
Speaker 5: than you would be if you weren't in the programs.
Speaker 5: It's just that it's done by instead of an AI
Speaker 5: system doing it, it's being done by military personnel using
Speaker 5: a smaller version of the technology. So, yeah, I produced
Speaker 5: a golden light, which is you know, my soul's color
Speaker 5: is you know, like a gold like a yellow gold color.
Speaker 5: So when I produced energy, it's golden and so I
Speaker 5: blew up the entire space with a tremendous amount of
Speaker 5: gold light as an offensive measure, which point the tunnel
Speaker 5: trunk and it's it stayed away from me. It wasn't
Speaker 5: attempting to make a type of entrapment type maneuver towards
Speaker 5: me at this point. I was keeping it under control
Speaker 5: and in a way, and I was creating a safe
Speaker 5: stone around me. It only took a few seconds in
Speaker 5: linear time, so this took place. And at the time
Speaker 5: that this happened, I remember saying to myself, there it is.
Speaker 5: That's all I said to myself. And I was just
Speaker 5: I was just focusing on what I was experiencing.
Speaker 4: I knew what was.
Speaker 5: Happening, and I could tell from tapping into that future
Speaker 5: version of myself because that because we have to understand
Speaker 5: here that future version of myself has already happened, because
Speaker 5: there's another future beyond that in nonlinear time as well
Speaker 5: as linear time, depending on how you want to look
Speaker 5: at this as two different perspectives. That the past president
Speaker 5: future all happening simultaneously with the mind of the creator.
Speaker 5: I had already I'd already gotten out of the void
Speaker 5: at that point, so you know, all of these things
Speaker 5: were already happening. So I was I was in my
Speaker 5: body on the on the couch, contemplating the end of
Speaker 5: my life and my future, in a state of like
Speaker 5: confusion and shock as to what to do. And then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I'm being pulled into this experience
Speaker 5: by my oversoul and I'm seeing myself in the future.
Speaker 5: I'm experiencing it, so it's as real as it could be,
Speaker 5: although I was at two places at the same.
Speaker 4: Time, in two points in time.
Speaker 5: So then as I'm realizing this, a portal opens up
Speaker 5: over the kind of the right hand side above the tunnel,
Speaker 5: and it's a cookie cutter hole.
Speaker 4: It looked like somebody just kind of cut.
Speaker 5: A hole in the darkness, and there was a whole
Speaker 5: reality beyond that, and it was like an observational window
Speaker 5: that was perfectly round, and there was two silhouettes looking
Speaker 5: at me.
Speaker 4: I knew that one of the silhouettes was my over
Speaker 4: soul as a whole being in.
Speaker 5: The neutrino source field in the real universe that we're
Speaker 5: all part of and came from, or our souls originated from.
Speaker 5: That was me observing myself next to him. Or well
Speaker 5: whatever gender he may have been or she, because I
Speaker 5: don't you know, it's just me, it isn't. We don't
Speaker 5: really have genders. The soul doesn't have a gender. It
Speaker 5: has a personality.
Speaker 4: I'm just the peace of that. So that that higher
Speaker 4: self or over soul was there.
Speaker 5: And next to that over sole version of myself was
Speaker 5: my sole mate, which is somebody I know in society
Speaker 5: now that's living in Australia. And she was very instrumental
Speaker 5: in helping me break free from this. She came into
Speaker 5: my life around twenty twenty six years ago and literally
Speaker 5: helped me deprogram and I or everything everything in the
Speaker 5: world for that because you know, at this point I realized.
Speaker 4: That she was right about one thing that she always
Speaker 4: said to me. Yeah, it is Rob.
Speaker 5: We the first time I been on I think it
Speaker 5: was the first time I was on your show. The
Speaker 5: second time I came home with a lady from Australia, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you you know, well, her over soul was there too,
Speaker 5: and she'd always say to me, we were never apart.
Speaker 4: I always get emotional. She'd always say to me, you know,
Speaker 4: we were never apart, and I can it still gets me.
Speaker 5: I can never understand why that was. You know, what
Speaker 5: do you mean We're never apart? It almost sounds like
Speaker 5: a cop out, because we're not. We're are apart. We're
Speaker 5: really apart. We're in this situation. I'm in a different relationship,
Speaker 5: she's in one. It's like, this is just so wrong
Speaker 5: and it hurts so bad that we're in this world
Speaker 5: together but so far apart.
Speaker 4: Why could it be?
Speaker 2: Like I noticed, I just want to tell you this.
Speaker 2: I've been experiencing this lady. I've met a girl I
Speaker 2: really like and like she's really advanced in like her
Speaker 2: psychic abilities, and I feel, I brollily like you had
Speaker 2: something like this with like Diane, Like when I talked
Speaker 2: to her and she can kind of project herself in
Speaker 2: here like she I can't see her physically, but she
Speaker 2: can touch me and she can like you know, like
Speaker 2: actually like make contact.
Speaker 3: Which is pretty amazing. You know, like some people, you know,
Speaker 3: like some people have that aboilt? It was was it
Speaker 3: like that with Diane? Like was she able to like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: She's been able to do healings on me where I
Speaker 5: felt in immediate like she's some she went from doing
Speaker 5: the normal kind of tear it card stuff and u
Speaker 5: age stuff, and she got away from that and it
Speaker 5: just went directly get into God. That which was a solution,
Speaker 5: was to get the spirit guides on the deception out
Speaker 5: of her life and completely clean the plate and get
Speaker 5: back to essentially over soul integration.
Speaker 4: She doesn't call it that, but that's how I see.
Speaker 4: It's what I call it.
Speaker 5: So she was, I mean, she's done prayer work on
Speaker 5: me where I immediately felt, within a matter of seconds,
Speaker 5: I felt a significant difference in how I was feeling.
Speaker 5: We've done remote We did one remote viewing experiment. You know,
Speaker 5: I bought it right on the first attempt. I saw
Speaker 5: the bush with the red flowers next to her house.
Speaker 5: She gave me another target for example, and I was
Speaker 5: getting I wasn't getting the target that she was hoping
Speaker 5: that I would get, but I was seeing her car
Speaker 5: and her car port, so instead of seeing the other side,
Speaker 5: I was looking at the wrong part of the house.
Speaker 5: But she literally felt my presence there, she felt my
Speaker 5: energy there. So we've had these experiences. And when we
Speaker 5: did that show or I think two shows with you,
Speaker 5: she said that when she did energy work on me,
Speaker 5: there's a big difference because you know, normally she would
Speaker 5: go and she'd she'd see the person's energy body in
Speaker 5: her mind's I would. It was different because I always
Speaker 5: would actually get up, like I was standing up from
Speaker 5: it from a chair, and I would literally come over
Speaker 5: and hold her hand and we and.
Speaker 4: We'd hold hands through the experience.
Speaker 5: So there was something completely different about the dynamics of
Speaker 5: our relationship. But she immediately sensed right away. A couple
Speaker 5: of months in we realized that there was a deeper
Speaker 5: connection you to trauma and things that she's been through
Speaker 5: in her life. It was hard for her to accept that.
Speaker 5: So she's been you know, so it's taken a long
Speaker 5: time to accept it. But I think now she understands.
Speaker 5: It's just that I feel the emotions much much stronger
Speaker 5: than her. And I know why that is, because you know,
Speaker 5: I've tried sometimes five times a day just by just
Speaker 5: by thinking about her and thinking about the situation where
Speaker 5: in and wanting to be out of it, and wanting
Speaker 5: to be home and not have to be going to
Speaker 5: the situation, but all of the distance.
Speaker 3: So it's something to talk about when you have a
Speaker 3: connection with someone like that. I know what you mean. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like.
Speaker 2: Moment right, you feel like you know, you're you're like
Speaker 2: you're like your wife or whatever, like you feel like
Speaker 2: this was like you know, you feel like get that
Speaker 2: strong connection and it's hard because that persons so far away.
Speaker 2: But like you know, like you said, like it seems
Speaker 2: like we do all these psychic abilities like that they
Speaker 2: don't teach us about them. We're able to like you know,
Speaker 2: Astraal project and like we can make things like the
Speaker 2: impossible happen, especially when you have a connection like that.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, exactly, and you you know, there's so
Speaker 5: many things that are really possible that most people never experience,
Speaker 5: and they have incredible meaning to them. So you know,
Speaker 5: the reason I feel the reason the emotions were coming
Speaker 5: through much strong, longer in me than her was because
Speaker 5: these emotions were tied to my exit and I didn't
Speaker 5: realize that until I had this experience all of the times,
Speaker 5: and this goes back to when I was a child
Speaker 5: rob I would look at videos and read books about
Speaker 5: near death experiences because I studied that extensively for a
Speaker 5: period of time in my mid twenties early in mid twenties,
Speaker 5: and I'd always break down and cry when I when
Speaker 5: I really got into the subject, and it would just
Speaker 5: hit me.
Speaker 4: It would hit me.
Speaker 5: I would have tears running down my face just by
Speaker 5: listening to somebody describeing near death experiences. And I realized
Speaker 5: as a child that there was a reality, that's the
Speaker 5: true reality that we're not in. I didn't understand what
Speaker 5: that meant, it just the way it fell. And of course,
Speaker 5: you know, you listen to theologians and they tell you, well,
Speaker 5: that's heaven. You know, that's the real reality, and you're
Speaker 5: just coming here, you know, So you know, in a
Speaker 5: way it was that was the theological concept of all
Speaker 5: that was kind of like a mirror companion to what
Speaker 5: I was experiencing and feeling, but it wasn't correct exactly.
Speaker 5: So anyway, I realized that I'm in this void again
Speaker 5: subscribing it to everybody. I'm looking through this cookie cutter
Speaker 5: window and I'm having this experience and now I'm actually
Speaker 5: doing something else. I'm in three places. At once, I
Speaker 5: saw myself, but then I became myself. So I'm now
Speaker 5: looking at myself. So I'm looking at myself on the couch,
Speaker 5: and I'm looking at myself and the void. And I
Speaker 5: realized that all of the times that I broke down
Speaker 5: and cried and got emotional and had these emotional peaks
Speaker 5: that came out of nowhere because I was engaging in
Speaker 5: these subjects.
Speaker 4: Like near death experiences or just to wear his home.
Speaker 5: For longest time, I thought that I was an et
Speaker 5: that I, you know, was a planet out there, and
Speaker 5: I thought that was home, and I get emotional.
Speaker 4: But all of these experiences that I had, they.
Speaker 5: Were all a calling card from my oversoul, and I
Speaker 5: realized that that emotional energy was the key to getting out.
Speaker 5: And it was the same emotional energy that I used
Speaker 5: and peeled myself from you directed energy attacks because I
Speaker 5: was getting hit and air to the conference within I
Speaker 5: don't know how long it was after, but I was.
Speaker 5: I was hit right on immediately as I left the conference,
Speaker 5: I got on the plane, I got zapped and they
Speaker 5: knocked me out on the plane. And then from there
Speaker 5: when I woke up, I had chronic fatigue for two months.
Speaker 5: The pretty bad and they really punished me. And then
Speaker 5: I got hit with a duo over the course of
Speaker 5: that period of time, and it was a do that
Speaker 5: was pretty vicious because I was sick for ten days
Speaker 5: and it was really really really brutal. I mean I
Speaker 5: had radiation sickness. I was vibrated out of bed around
Speaker 5: five in the morning. I just woke up and I
Speaker 5: felt like the room was shaking or my body was vibrating.
Speaker 5: I thought a big truck was out front, and I
Speaker 5: got up and looked out the window and there was nothing.
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking to myself, what is that. I thought
Speaker 5: they must have hit me with something, or I had
Speaker 5: some kind of condolini event or something happened, I mean
Speaker 5: some type of energy event within my energy body. And
Speaker 5: then I laid back down. I couldn't sleep. So four
Speaker 5: hours later I got up full blown sick from radiation sickness.
Speaker 5: And I was like that for ten days. Was extremely dehydrated.
Speaker 5: I drank three quarts of coconut milk from Walmart, and
Speaker 5: I bought this, you know, the quart size, come apart,
Speaker 5: four of them, and drank three before I even started feeling.
Speaker 4: A tiny bit better.
Speaker 5: And anyway, so I was what I realized at that
Speaker 5: point when I became my oversoul, when I when I
Speaker 5: actually was experiencing it through that as well as my
Speaker 5: future self and my present self, is that every time
Speaker 5: that I'd had one of those emotional moments that this
Speaker 5: was my oversoul essentially sending a pulse, if you want
Speaker 5: to call it, that kind of a wake up call
Speaker 5: to go because you're you're connected to that part of
Speaker 5: yourself through a tether. And this goes from the electromagnetic
Speaker 5: holographic universe to this you know, neutrino source field. It
Speaker 5: connects you to your oversoul. And when I say that,
Speaker 5: and I'm describing two universes that are there, that are
Speaker 5: running parallel to each other, what I mean is is
Speaker 5: that you're literally in the same space if you want
Speaker 5: to call a space. There's no distance, there's no separation
Speaker 5: between the two. They're one and the same. And so
Speaker 5: here I am experiencing this, and then I realized that
Speaker 5: all of my intuition was always coming from my oversoul.
Speaker 4: It was always coming from inside me.
Speaker 5: Even when they tried to hijack it, there was points
Speaker 5: where I could differentiate, you know, where they were pulling
Speaker 5: and trying to fool me into believing that that what
Speaker 5: I was experiencing was was my my intuition was being hijacked.
Speaker 5: But I could tell the difference, and I could and
Speaker 5: it was a wake up call. I literally realized all
Speaker 5: of these things in a matter of a few seconds,
Speaker 5: and I knew that that part of me was was
Speaker 5: was observing everything that I was going through, and it's
Speaker 5: it's the same for everybody else. And I gave you
Speaker 5: an analogy last time I was on here.
Speaker 4: I said, it's like.
Speaker 5: You're standing in a school classroom and you're you're standing
Speaker 5: there with maybe one or more people, and you're staring
Speaker 5: at a globe that's sitting on a desk, and that
Speaker 5: globe represents this electromagnetic universe and this world that we're in,
Speaker 5: and when you glance at it and focus on it,
Speaker 5: you project your consciousness into this world that's inside this globe.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, with the Jerry Will story where
Speaker 5: he was talking about the type of a mass like
Speaker 5: the universe was in this lab or, this this booy
Speaker 5: or kind of like a white light area, and it
Speaker 5: had rods going through it that was holding it and
Speaker 5: containing it from growing any bigger.
Speaker 4: And that's how I was describing what he saw.
Speaker 5: And you know, so it's it's like you're standing outside
Speaker 5: of a holographic universe construct that simulation, and because there's
Speaker 5: no space and no time, like we understand it. All
Speaker 5: of these things are very easily possible, So you're just projecting.
Speaker 5: All we're really doing is just we're all coexisting on
Speaker 5: the other side, as people call it. We've never left.
Speaker 5: None of us have left. Our oversouls are in the
Speaker 5: neutrino universe, which is the one we're in. But we're
Speaker 5: experiencing reality through a distortion. But we're literally staring down
Speaker 5: at this globe and in this classroom, and if you
Speaker 5: want to, I'm just giving it analygy. It's not exactly
Speaker 5: like that, but it's like you're projecting your consciousness into
Speaker 5: this reality and you're holding both at the same time.
Speaker 5: So I realized that all of the intuition, all of
Speaker 5: that that inner knowledge was coming from my over soul,
Speaker 5: and that's how we're able to navigate this. That's when
Speaker 5: when we experience something I have a psychic event. If
Speaker 5: it's not externally, if it's not an external source to
Speaker 5: it like the B two K and the Handlers and
Speaker 5: et staging it, it's truly genuine and coming from you.
Speaker 5: It's coming from your over soul, so that part of you,
Speaker 5: that whole being that you are, is guiding you.
Speaker 4: The fragment of.
Speaker 5: Self through this experience, and that's why there's tether connected
Speaker 5: to you. So and that's really just a it's a
Speaker 5: symbolic construct. It's it's there, it's always there, it's omnipresent.
Speaker 5: It can't be broken, but it can be turned off
Speaker 5: to a degree. Like I said, with NPCs, that tether,
Speaker 5: that connection to the over soul is very, very weak.
Speaker 5: They're going to turn the beat off, which means basically
Speaker 5: they're not getting that intuitive information like the rest.
Speaker 6: Of us are.
Speaker 4: So the end, so the average person.
Speaker 5: Is just as just the same amount of worth as
Speaker 5: a soul, as a being, as a life form as
Speaker 5: everybody else, you know, But they're no different than me
Speaker 5: or anyone else. It's just that I still have that
Speaker 5: connection to my over soul. It hasn't been broken, it
Speaker 5: hasn't been lost and forgotten. It's still active. And every
Speaker 5: time I got one of those emotional pulses, it was
Speaker 5: a wake up call, it was a call home. It
Speaker 5: was telling me that this is what I needed to do,
Speaker 5: and it was it was teaching me who I really was.
Speaker 5: It was waking me up out of this experience and
Speaker 5: breaking the hold of the amnesia that they gave me.
Speaker 5: So I realized all of that, and I realized that
Speaker 5: we were never apart, and I gained a tremendous amount
Speaker 5: of comfort there. But at the same time, I still
Speaker 5: you know, it's a fantasy. I realized that I'm still
Speaker 5: here and Rob, this is the craziest thing is that,
Speaker 5: you know, it's like when you're over there, when you're
Speaker 5: on the other side, you're projecting yourself, your energy, your.
Speaker 4: Consciousness into this universe.
Speaker 5: It only feels like a moment because it's only because
Speaker 5: time is different over there.
Speaker 4: It's non linear time.
Speaker 5: So the period of time that you're projecting your consciousness
Speaker 5: into this universe on the other side feels like a
Speaker 5: moment of belief, just a very brief glimpse or just
Speaker 5: a blink of an eye. It's, you know, because time
Speaker 5: there's no linear time, so and you know the outcome
Speaker 5: going in, so there's no mystery to it. The problem is,
Speaker 5: when you're projected in here, it could feel like an
Speaker 5: eternity because it becomes one. So we're locked into this perspective.
Speaker 5: And I finally understood the nature of consciousness and the
Speaker 5: nature of this whole construct. And at that point I
Speaker 5: realized how to get out and The way to get
Speaker 5: out is essentially is that that emotion that I felt
Speaker 5: over and over and over again over the course of
Speaker 5: my life. That's that's like a key to get out
Speaker 5: of the simulation. All I have to do is remember
Speaker 5: the feeling and connect to it.
Speaker 3: Is that like a love frequency, would you say, or
Speaker 3: a love feeling.
Speaker 5: It's a love frequency. But within that love, I could
Speaker 5: differentiate the frequency of the creator, which is love. So
Speaker 5: that's like a universal field of energy. It's it's very
Speaker 5: very pure. I could tell what that was, and I
Speaker 5: could tell that there was love coming from my over soul,
Speaker 5: so it's a love for self, you know, and of
Speaker 5: course you know my soulmate too, So I felt three
Speaker 5: different forms of that love energy combined in the one.
Speaker 5: And I also realized at that point too that when
Speaker 5: people say that you know, I felt God, I felt
Speaker 5: God's presence. And if it's not false and it's not
Speaker 5: like being generated by some deceptive being or by the military,
Speaker 5: for example, a tech, if it's real, then what you're
Speaker 5: getting is is you're getting that frequency, that love energy
Speaker 5: that's permeating everything on this other side. This is neutrino universe,
Speaker 5: where this type of corrupted existence doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: It's not that people are controlled.
Speaker 5: I always wonder it's like, well, how can you take
Speaker 5: if you look at the concept of Christianity, for example,
Speaker 5: or a lot of the other religions, how do you
Speaker 5: take all these rotten people that accept it a certain
Speaker 5: who've never questioned a certain religion and for that reason
Speaker 5: they're gonna get taken to heaven? How could you put
Speaker 5: these people with all of these problems into heaven and
Speaker 5: call it heaven. All you're gonna have is another version
Speaker 5: of earth. Right, You're gonna have degregation, you're gonna have races, homophobia,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have class warfare. This is all the things
Speaker 5: that people take with them. But over the on this
Speaker 5: other side, none of these things exist. It's just not
Speaker 5: part of the reality. And it's very difficult to comprehend
Speaker 5: that until you've experienced it, when you realize that everything
Speaker 5: that's going on here is essentially a distortion.
Speaker 4: It's not the normal way.
Speaker 5: Of existence, but we think it is and we're locked
Speaker 5: into it. And there's so many people who say.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is it. This is you know, as above
Speaker 4: so below, it's all it's all craft, no matter it's
Speaker 4: on Earth in space, it's all evil, it's all corrupt,
Speaker 4: this is the nature of the beast. Well, it's not
Speaker 4: that this is an illusion. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 5: We could transform this place and as we did, that
Speaker 5: would fade out. So what happened was is that as
Speaker 5: soon as I connected, as soon as I realized what
Speaker 5: was going on, and I felt internally this is the
Speaker 5: key here. People ask, how do you escape this? How
Speaker 5: do you escape the void? How do you get out
Speaker 5: of the tunnel of light?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you have to realize you have
Speaker 5: to you have to strip away all of the programming
Speaker 5: that you've been given all lookuse. That's very powerful programming,
Speaker 5: to all the belief systems that you gain as being
Speaker 5: a person in this world. You have to strip away
Speaker 5: from that. You have to go back to the core
Speaker 5: which really matters, which is love. That's what you have
Speaker 5: to fill yourself with and you have to put that
Speaker 5: above everything your own personal safety, your financial stability, you know,
Speaker 5: your your your social status, everything that locks you into
Speaker 5: these negative belief systems that this world is full of.
Speaker 5: And it all comes that basically goes back to self sustatement,
Speaker 5: I've got to I have to be this person in
Speaker 5: order to be successful. I've got to cheat other people
Speaker 5: out of things, because they're going to cheat me out
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 4: I'd rather take.
Speaker 5: Less or lose that, you know, the game that everyone's playing,
Speaker 5: than partake in it. You know, if poverty means that
Speaker 5: I'm free of the system and free of the evil
Speaker 5: that it brings me and the corruption that it brings
Speaker 5: to my soul, then I'd rather be poor. I'd rather
Speaker 5: not have anything. You've got to look at it that way,
Speaker 5: and that's how you've got to live your life. And
Speaker 5: you've got to shed all of these belief systems because
Speaker 5: they're just there to bind you and make you stay
Speaker 5: here and give you.
Speaker 4: The illusion that this is it and there's nothing else.
Speaker 5: So when people think, okay, well if I die and
Speaker 5: I get out of the main, I get out of
Speaker 5: this prison planet system going to go back to the plates,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to be a plate eat again, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to have to fight in a war against
Speaker 5: the the Orion Empire, and that that that is no
Speaker 5: different in trading this world for something with a little
Speaker 5: bit more freedom, just a little bit more freedom.
Speaker 4: But it's the same miserable situation, just an upgraded version
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 5: And you know, I feel sorry for those people who
Speaker 5: see that that's the only other reality for them for
Speaker 5: their self other than this, because that's how I believe
Speaker 5: for a period of time, and that's part of the
Speaker 5: containment programming that the Handlers gave me. And I think
Speaker 5: a lot of people get that and they don't understand
Speaker 5: what they're being fed and how they're really seeing it.
Speaker 4: And then when they see their self, it's being limited
Speaker 4: to just being.
Speaker 5: An extraterrestrial in the rest of the un you know,
Speaker 5: existing somewhere else in the universe, and they're temporarily here
Speaker 5: until they can get out. That's a very, very limiting
Speaker 5: and type of containment belief system, no different than believing
Speaker 5: that you're going to die and go to heaven or
Speaker 5: hell if you accept Jesus or alive or whatever your
Speaker 5: God is. It's the same type of con it's the
Speaker 5: same type of containment sort of belief system. It doesn't
Speaker 5: serve you to get out and to go where I
Speaker 5: really belonged, which is the source field as I call it,
Speaker 5: the real universe, instead of this one. So anyway, I'm
Speaker 5: having this experience again, like I'm saying, and so I
Speaker 5: realize all of these things. I have this massive epiphany moment,
Speaker 5: and as I'm taking it all in, I'm experiencing myself
Speaker 5: in the void, having this experience where I'm exiting the
Speaker 5: void now.
Speaker 4: And how I did it.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that I just like flew away or found
Speaker 5: a hiding place or there, you know, I think there was.
Speaker 5: It was the West pen papers. I might be wrong
Speaker 5: when I read these years. Yeah, okay, So anyway he
Speaker 5: talks about I think, and maybe my memory stirs me correct,
Speaker 5: but I think he was talking about some type of
Speaker 5: escape like tubes or exit peorals to get out of
Speaker 5: the out of the I don't know if it was
Speaker 5: out of the universe or off the planet, out of
Speaker 5: the prison planet. But he was talking about a type
Speaker 5: of escape route, and he was describing it in a
Speaker 5: three D sense. And then, you know, I've heard foresights
Speaker 5: that you talk about just find a place to hide
Speaker 5: in the darkness and the void or whatever and then
Speaker 5: someone will come get you out. Well it is it
Speaker 5: doesn't really work that way because even if someone came
Speaker 5: to get you out, where are they taking you? Are
Speaker 5: they taking you to another planet. Are they taking you
Speaker 5: to another aspect of this simulated reality that's around this
Speaker 5: planet that has multiple different nested levels to it, like
Speaker 5: we call the spirit world, but it's all an AI construct.
Speaker 5: Are they taking you there or are they just taking
Speaker 5: you to another to some planet elsewhere where you're gonna
Speaker 5: have a little bit more freedom and live under another
Speaker 5: government and you're gonna live in perpetual youth by cloning
Speaker 5: your and transferring your soul, where you'll have extended lifetime
Speaker 5: and you'll go through the rebirth cycle. However it's done,
Speaker 5: that still is a very very limiting reality, and it
Speaker 5: keeps you within fifth density or lower. So that isn't
Speaker 5: that's not an escape, and when I see that as
Speaker 5: just another layer of containment, just just a more broader
Speaker 5: version of it. But anyway, Rob, what happened was is
Speaker 5: that as this took place, as this, as this happened,
Speaker 5: and I started to feel this emotional pool, and this
Speaker 5: emotional pool of the emotion that I felt was the
Speaker 5: exact same emotion that I felt over and over and
Speaker 5: over again throughout my life, possibly thousands of times or
Speaker 5: not tens of thousands of times over the course of
Speaker 5: the fifty two years that I've.
Speaker 4: Been alive, and that was the pool.
Speaker 5: So I literally have been I've literally experienced the emotional
Speaker 5: pool for my oversoul, my entire life, and I didn't
Speaker 5: realize it. Point I realized that, and when I connected
Speaker 5: with it, the simulation disappeared, the void completely faded out.
Speaker 4: I learned a couple of things there.
Speaker 5: I learned that there's no spatial distance there, there's no
Speaker 5: three dimensional space there, so it's not like you're going
Speaker 5: from one place to another. You're literally just changing your
Speaker 5: your frequency like you're changing the knob on a you know,
Speaker 5: like a radio.
Speaker 4: You're just changing the station, is all you're really doing.
Speaker 5: So all I was doing, essentially was phase shifting my
Speaker 5: frequency to my home destination, which is how you travel
Speaker 5: in the source field and the real universe, the neutrino universe.
Speaker 5: You don't need a spacecraft. Once you get up to
Speaker 5: a point of a higher density, you simply will yourself
Speaker 5: to be someplace and your frequency shifts to the destination,
Speaker 5: and that's.
Speaker 4: How you travel. So you're completely unhindered, there's no limitation.
Speaker 5: And so I literally that's what I experienced, and and
Speaker 5: this reality, the void of everything this whole map just
Speaker 5: completely faded away, and it had. I realized at that
Speaker 5: point that all the power that I thought they had
Speaker 5: over me, all over the control that I thought that
Speaker 5: these handlers had, and that this world had over me,
Speaker 5: and this whole universe had over me, was an absolute illusion.
Speaker 5: I had the I had free will the entire time,
Speaker 5: and I just couldn't remember it. I couldn't remember that
Speaker 5: I had free will, and I couldn't remember how to.
Speaker 5: And once I realized that I had free will, I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: how do you how do you use your free will
Speaker 5: to get out of this? I don't I don't agree
Speaker 5: with this, but I'm still here. And I realized that
Speaker 5: you know that there's a way out, and it's all
Speaker 5: based in your own free will. You have to shed
Speaker 5: the conditioning, you have to shed the belief systems, and
Speaker 5: you have to go inside. And the way that you
Speaker 5: tell between the top all of light which is pulling
Speaker 5: you in through deception and giving it this love bomb frequency.
Speaker 5: What you have to understand is that that frequency is
Speaker 5: external to you. You're feeling something, You're not feeling it
Speaker 5: inside yourself, You're feeling it from outside yourself coming in
Speaker 5: and if you accept it and you give it that
Speaker 5: handshake agreement, that's giving it consent, that's getting you recycled.
Speaker 5: But the real poll is love, and it comes from inside,
Speaker 5: not from a tunnel of light, not from anything external.
Speaker 5: It has to come from the inside yourself, because that's
Speaker 5: how you get out. Because you really never went anywhere
Speaker 5: when you when you came to this universe, you became
Speaker 5: part of it. You never really traveled any distance, you
Speaker 5: never really went anywhere. You just shifted your perspective for
Speaker 5: a brief moment on the other side. But here, like
Speaker 5: I said, it feels like an eternity. So that was
Speaker 5: the I mean, that was the most profound experience that
Speaker 5: I've ever had, and I had to literally go through
Speaker 5: it and not say anything. You know, so I'm sitting there,
Speaker 5: you know, all I'm talking about is bills. At the
Speaker 5: end of this experience, where I got up from the couch,
Speaker 5: and you know, I was dealing with a big dilemma.
Speaker 5: But at the same time as I got up, I
Speaker 5: walked away with everything I needed to get out of
Speaker 5: this situation. And it also helped me get through the
Speaker 5: situation that I was in with the financial problems.
Speaker 4: It took away the fear.
Speaker 5: It took away the pain inside much of it, not
Speaker 5: all of it, but a certain agree of it that
Speaker 5: was there that it left me feeling helpless and unable
Speaker 5: to do anything and waiting for someone.
Speaker 4: To come help me or get me out of the situation.
Speaker 5: I realized that I had all the answers inside myself
Speaker 5: the entire time, and I didn't need anyone. I didn't
Speaker 5: need spirit guides, I didn't need extraterrestrials to help me.
Speaker 5: I didn't need angels or anything else that may or
Speaker 5: may not be real, that may be counterfeit. And products
Speaker 5: of this AI system were the intelligences that control it.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, do you have any questions?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, if the audience had any ways
Speaker 3: to hear. Okay, guys, I'm that was a lot man.
Speaker 3: Holy shit.
Speaker 2: We we went for two hours and twelve minutes. Maybe
Speaker 2: we could wrap Let's do this, guys, we'll wrap it
Speaker 2: up with some audience questions. Put your questions in the chat,
Speaker 2: because I you know, I want to see if anybody
Speaker 2: has any good questions.
Speaker 3: I can kind of go through some of the if
Speaker 3: I find some good comments here. There was a ruined guy.
Speaker 2: This is a good one from Thomas Lynch. Tom and
Speaker 2: Lynch says, uh, this is exactly what Nathan means. Every
Speaker 2: dynasty is equally important in president if you can be president.
Speaker 5: The level of vibration right space is an illusion. The
Speaker 5: three D the three dimensional construct is an illusion. It's
Speaker 5: a hologram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a boostein urge.
Speaker 2: He says, claim your life horrors energy back from all
Speaker 2: the people who mistreated you.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the people.
Speaker 5: Misery loves company, So people will literally project their negativity
Speaker 5: on you as a way of leaving or in pain only.
Speaker 5: But it only perpetuates it and it does hold you
Speaker 5: back and you have to be able to shield yourself
Speaker 5: from it.
Speaker 4: That has to do with the.
Speaker 5: Programming and a negative influence, and it has to do
Speaker 5: with the trauma based mind control because they're putting you
Speaker 5: through trauma. As long as you accept the trauma and
Speaker 5: you stay in it, you're not going to get out
Speaker 5: of it. It reduces your ability to escape this. And
Speaker 5: when you feel negative and you feel abused, you're not
Speaker 5: feeling loved, and that's what the goal is. You're taking
Speaker 5: you away from the love frequency. They're putting you into
Speaker 5: the fight and fight and flight type of you know,
Speaker 5: mentality and that lower frequency that comes with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this from them of the cat, She says, I
Speaker 2: wonder what you think about cats like and their and
Speaker 2: like in their mission. I think she means in regards
Speaker 2: like their mission with us on Earth and like and
Speaker 2: transitioning out of here like and the.
Speaker 3: Pex maybe pets in general. Do you think people will
Speaker 3: know their pats?
Speaker 2: I know you you asked a pat and I know
Speaker 2: that was really tough because you were really that was
Speaker 2: like your friend for a long time.
Speaker 3: Like do you feel like you like he is spirited
Speaker 3: that to kind of back?
Speaker 2: Do you think that spirit might have reincarnated into your
Speaker 2: new dog? And do you think that like yes, sorry,
Speaker 2: I kind of went off on a tangel with her question.
Speaker 2: I'll like you answer no.
Speaker 4: I answer, I'll answer both, Okay, I answer the cat.
Speaker 5: Second, my dog, for example, I've had two people tell
Speaker 5: me that are that are capable of being able to
Speaker 5: see this, So there you know through their intuitive mind's
Speaker 5: eye that my dog actually understood my my you know
Speaker 5: the promise that I made to him, and that was
Speaker 5: my dog Leo. So Leo was a master do or
Speaker 5: half mast of half lab It's like a Labrador deluxe.
Speaker 5: He had big, fluffy lips and he drooled and but
Speaker 5: he was much bigger and muscular, and he was very protective.
Speaker 5: But he had a lot of trauma his past life.
Speaker 5: He was he was killed by his previous owner before
Speaker 5: I got him in another life, and he was tired.
Speaker 5: He was chained, he was tied up to a fence
Speaker 5: and beaten death with some kind of club. Then he
Speaker 5: was abused. It was like it was almost like he
Speaker 5: was guarding a junkyard or a car lot or something.
Speaker 5: But there was a there was a fence, like a
Speaker 5: tall fence there, and he was he was abused, and
Speaker 5: he carried a lot of that that that you know, trauma,
Speaker 5: the post traumatic stress to sort of with him. And
Speaker 5: it took me about three years to get him to
Speaker 5: stop wanting to bite me because I was a male,
Speaker 5: I was like the alpha male of the house. So
Speaker 5: but we we bonded and I made a promise to
Speaker 5: him that I would get him out of this and
Speaker 5: I would take him home with me. And according to
Speaker 5: two people, you know, he's still waiting. Because once you
Speaker 5: leave the physical body like this, your your perception of
Speaker 5: time changes, so you become more into the non linear
Speaker 5: time frame and so so in other words, you know,
Speaker 5: waiting twenty years for me to die and take him
Speaker 5: home and compete.
Speaker 4: You know, it could be twenty years or it could
Speaker 4: be a blink of an eye.
Speaker 5: So anyway, yeah, I think that I think that he'll
Speaker 5: be going with me when I when I when I leave,
Speaker 5: and I know I can get him back.
Speaker 4: Even if he's not there immediately.
Speaker 5: I also talked about that with my Altar, and what
Speaker 5: Alter said was is that animals are easiest to get
Speaker 5: out because they're not bound to the AI system. They're
Speaker 5: exempt from so they can come and go through the
Speaker 5: from the planet or from the universe itself as they
Speaker 5: please for whatever reason, they've chosen to be here at
Speaker 5: this point in time. And I think too that, you know, animals,
Speaker 5: just like people, have that oversoul aspect, so they're they're
Speaker 5: actually existing on the other side simultaneously, but they're projecting
Speaker 5: their consciousness in here. And you know, people make the
Speaker 5: mistake of thinking that animals don't have souls or they
Speaker 5: don't have intelligence.
Speaker 4: They're far more intelligent that people give them credit for.
Speaker 5: They're telepathic, their psychic you know, they have interactions with
Speaker 5: each other that are far more advanced than we do
Speaker 5: because we don't have that aspect of our consciousness that functions.
Speaker 5: So we're the one that's dumbed down. We're literally the
Speaker 5: dumbed down animals compared to them. When in you know truth,
Speaker 5: I mean, if you sit in a forest and you
Speaker 5: sit still fifteen or twenty minutes after you walked in,
Speaker 5: and you're far enough in to do this, everything's quiet,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, entire civilization, a city
Speaker 5: of animals of all different types that interact with each
Speaker 5: other in a type of system, all come to life,
Speaker 5: and you realize you're literally in a city of other consciousnesses.
Speaker 4: You know, it's.
Speaker 5: It's just an incredible thing that we're missing when we
Speaker 5: when we discount what animals are, and you know, we're
Speaker 5: no different than them.
Speaker 4: We're just expressing we're just here in a different expression.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good point.
Speaker 4: I mean, another good morry.
Speaker 3: What sorry I thought you were Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wanting to mention the cat thing.
Speaker 5: I don't know if cats hold a special I know
Speaker 5: people have a special affection for cats, whether or not
Speaker 5: cats are have I think maybe it has to do
Speaker 5: with the individual. I think we can make these connections
Speaker 5: with these animals. Obviously we can. I've done it myself,
Speaker 5: and that they these relationships can turn into something that
Speaker 5: perhaps can his experience as a deeply.
Speaker 4: Spiritual type of relationship.
Speaker 5: So so I would say yes, if you're looking for
Speaker 5: something special out of that relationship, if you're looking for it,
Speaker 5: you'll usually find it if a cat hasn't been traumatized.
Speaker 5: But and I do have a cat, and my cat
Speaker 5: is interesting because there's times when he'll seek me out
Speaker 5: when I've got a stress headache and my eyes hurt
Speaker 5: something like you know, in those situations, and he'll want
Speaker 5: to rub his fur across my face. So I'll go
Speaker 5: to the kitchen table and it's like a ritual that
Speaker 5: we do at least once a day, and he'll seek
Speaker 5: me out for it. He'll get up on the table
Speaker 5: with me and he just walks back and forth back
Speaker 5: and he rubs his whole body across my face and
Speaker 5: forehead of my bob and it literally takes away the
Speaker 5: stress headache within a matter of seconds. So there's something,
Speaker 5: there's an energetic event taking place there. It's a it's
Speaker 5: a mutual thing, but the cat is much more aware
Speaker 5: of what's going on than people in my household.
Speaker 4: For example.
Speaker 5: You know, they're not paying attention to what I'm going through,
Speaker 5: but the cat is tuned into it.
Speaker 4: My dog is tuned into it.
Speaker 5: And you know, have a new dog now, Irisset her
Speaker 5: wonderful dog, and you know he doesn't have the trauma
Speaker 5: like my last dog, but.
Speaker 4: And very affectionate. He'll stand up and give you hugs, and.
Speaker 5: We do this little ritual every time. I once a day,
Speaker 5: Rob this is interesting. Once a day, I'll let him out.
Speaker 5: I'll let him out more than that, but once or
Speaker 5: twice a day he'll want to go out. And a
Speaker 5: lot of times he doesn't even want.
Speaker 6: To go out.
Speaker 5: He just wants to give me a hug. So I'll
Speaker 5: go down to the bottom of the stairs the steps,
Speaker 5: there's like three steps in the kitchen to go to
Speaker 5: the back door, and then I'll let him out. But
Speaker 5: he likes to stand up on that top step so
Speaker 5: that he's a little bit taller than me, a bet
Speaker 5: a bet a head taller than me. And he stands
Speaker 5: up and he puts his palls on my shoulders and
Speaker 5: he gives me a hug, and you know, he gives
Speaker 5: me a couple of kisses and we and we we
Speaker 5: hold each other. It's once or twice a day, you know,
Speaker 5: this happens. And sometimes like he'll just try to get
Speaker 5: me to go to the door with him, just to
Speaker 5: do that, and then he'll tell me by his body language,
Speaker 5: by what his energy that he doesn't want to go out.
Speaker 5: He just wanted to give me that hug from the
Speaker 5: top of the stairs.
Speaker 3: That's so cool. That's a that's that's that's that's that's man,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome, seems if we have any more questions, so, uh,
Speaker 2: his name's gone to some wanted to know about ANGIEA.
Speaker 3: Atlantis.
Speaker 2: I can, I'll see it Nathan's But I think I
Speaker 2: think Pangaea was definitely a thing where Nedda talked about it.
Speaker 2: How it ties in the simulation, I'm not sure, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I think all the continents were connected all
Speaker 2: at once. You know, maybe when that planet got hijacked,
Speaker 2: they split it apart, like they divided the languages like
Speaker 2: at the Tower of Babble.
Speaker 3: If that story is real, you know, and then yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think Atlantis was real too.
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 6: It was before that, you know, like I think, yeah,
Speaker 6: I think there's some yeah, Tataria and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think it's all real. The question is when you
Speaker 4: actually when it happened in our history.
Speaker 5: And it's difficult to determine that because it appears that
Speaker 5: the the way that the simulation operates that it can
Speaker 5: literally alter matter and alter reality, because like I said,
Speaker 5: we're really just energy and in the in the true reality,
Speaker 5: we're scanning a standing scalar way, which is an expression
Speaker 5: of the creator's mind and idea is and concepts, where
Speaker 5: so God dreams and therefore we exist. And this electromagnetic
Speaker 5: distortion literally alters reality, and it alters the flow of time.
Speaker 5: It changes everything. So anything is possible in that regard.
Speaker 5: And what I think is that we've been through periods
Speaker 5: where our timeline has been altered and it leaves gaps
Speaker 5: in our history. Not only does it do that, but
Speaker 5: it changes you know, where the timeline shifts. You have
Speaker 5: the Mandela effect. But I think what we're seeing with
Speaker 5: that is only a glimpse of the bigger picture. I
Speaker 5: think it's much more bigger than that. I think that
Speaker 5: that it's that it's actually possible to have a timeline
Speaker 5: shift in such a way where we can't even determine
Speaker 5: what our history is based on the evidence, Like you know,
Speaker 5: for example, carbon fourteen dating, there's there's anomalies.
Speaker 4: Out there in the in the the geological record that.
Speaker 5: There's literally man made objects that have been found they
Speaker 5: call moon parts or out of place artifacts. I think
Speaker 5: Michael Kremo, I think I said his name right, wrote
Speaker 5: a book. I need to read that book. By the way,
Speaker 5: I've seen so much about his work that never read
Speaker 5: his book. But all of those artifacts, seeing the date
Speaker 5: back and the carbon dating, and also where they're adding
Speaker 5: the strata of you know, the cross of the Earth
Speaker 5: that goes back a long time, millions of years, sometimes
Speaker 5: one hundreds of millions a year or so, How is
Speaker 5: this all possible? How old is our civilization? We really
Speaker 5: don't know. And it seems as if we just for
Speaker 5: all of the effort that everyone's making collectively, we still
Speaker 5: can't get a clear picture of it. And it's due
Speaker 5: to all of the different things that you know, I've
Speaker 5: talked about the programming, the disinfo agents, the government, the
Speaker 5: cover ups off he scation of our consciousness. We just
Speaker 5: simply can't remember. But I think that all of these
Speaker 5: things happen. The question is when did they happen. Farsite
Speaker 5: did a remote viewing study and they were looking at
Speaker 5: undersea anomalies in the Atlantic Ocean. Were on I think
Speaker 5: it was Google Earth, and they saw like it looked
Speaker 5: like structures. And then of course there must have been
Speaker 5: something to this because Google Earth altered the pictures and
Speaker 5: put a filter in so you couldn't see these anymore
Speaker 5: when they removed you. Then they found out that there
Speaker 5: was an ancient civilization it was several hundred years more
Speaker 5: advanced than this one that wiped itself out by drilling
Speaker 5: a hole through the crust off the coast of it
Speaker 5: was New Zealand. There's a big giant patch of lava,
Speaker 5: a huge undersea lava flow that you can look up
Speaker 5: and you can actually look at it. When you look
Speaker 5: at it, you realize it's a scar from penetrating the crust.
Speaker 5: So they popped the balloon and they destroyed civilization. I
Speaker 5: think that was influenced by negative extraterrestrials that wanted them
Speaker 5: to do this. They certainly didn't warn them about it,
Speaker 5: so they use they used the people to destroy their
Speaker 5: self and reboot the planet. So we really don't know
Speaker 5: how many times this planet's been rebooted restructured where you know,
Speaker 5: we have major cataclysmic events such as geographic poll shifts
Speaker 5: and impact events.
Speaker 4: The Moon being put into orbit around the.
Speaker 5: Earth twelve or thirteen thousand years ago created massive cataclysms
Speaker 5: and we're still just starting to figure that out now
Speaker 5: and calling it the on your drive event. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I believe all of that exists and all that all
Speaker 5: that happened, it's just when and how many times did
Speaker 5: it happen?
Speaker 4: Because Atlanta is going down is something I believe was.
Speaker 5: A repetitive type of event that took place under various contexts.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, this is a great stream.
Speaker 4: Man. We went a long time.
Speaker 3: But thanks man.
Speaker 6: Do you want to tell people where they can find
Speaker 6: you and stuff and closing words? I gat I didn't
Speaker 6: closing thoughts and stuff like that. Yeah, this was awesome.
Speaker 5: You can find me the Planetary Consciousness Project YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: I've live streamed this to that, and I got the
Speaker 5: one I did from last night when the Sonic League
Speaker 5: is on there, and that's the only new content that
Speaker 5: I've got on that channel right now a lot of
Speaker 5: old stuff. So eventually, eventually, as I get back to
Speaker 5: work and get some normalcy to my life, I'm going
Speaker 5: to be actually putting out content and talking about stuff.
Speaker 5: And I've been saying that for over probably a year
Speaker 5: or two. It's just that the targeting is such and
Speaker 5: to a degree that it's taken me a long time
Speaker 5: to get to the point where I can do it.
Speaker 4: Right now, the.
Speaker 5: Biggest obstacle that I'm dealing with is putting all of
Speaker 5: my energy into finding a job, getting back to work,
Speaker 5: and getting everything straight in my life, including health issues.
Speaker 5: So once I get to that point, I'm going to
Speaker 5: start putting out content. I may do it before then,
Speaker 5: I just started. Sean Bond was like, come on, why
Speaker 5: don't you live stream it to your channel? And I
Speaker 5: wasn't going to do it, but he talked me into it,
Speaker 5: and of course they made it easier so we were
Speaker 5: able to do it in a few minutes where stream
Speaker 5: Yard was.
Speaker 4: A real pain. To order to do that, I had
Speaker 4: to go through pass Forever retrievals and things.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's where you can find me at as
Speaker 5: far as closing words goes. And I'm also available on Facebook.
Speaker 5: Just look up Nathan Sizik. You have questions to connect
Speaker 5: with me and you know, talk whatever. If you're into
Speaker 5: these subjects, you can reach out to me there. I
Speaker 5: try to make time for people, but I don't have
Speaker 5: a lot of time to spare. But you know, I
Speaker 5: may not answer right away, but just you know, but
Speaker 5: just if you do contact and introduce yourself so that
Speaker 5: I know you're not a pot I'm very approachable. So
Speaker 5: as far as closing words goes, I just I hope
Speaker 5: that any of the things that I said tonight struck
Speaker 5: a chord in people. I hope that I've helped to
Speaker 5: spell some of the or some of the confusion around
Speaker 5: the near death experiences. In regard to the tunnel of light.
Speaker 5: How to get out of that situation. Like I said,
Speaker 5: it's it's from within. It's you don't go to anything external.
Speaker 5: And that's the most important takeaway of this. If you're
Speaker 5: being hit with this love bomb type of energy, it's
Speaker 5: external to you.
Speaker 4: You do not want that.
Speaker 5: That is not God calling you. God calls from inside
Speaker 5: and it's coming through your oversoul. So if you look
Speaker 5: at it like a of command or a chain, the
Speaker 5: best way to put it is a chain of transmission.
Speaker 5: So think of God as like the big broadcast center.
Speaker 5: It's like the power plant sending the energy, sending the
Speaker 5: electrons through the power lines. Okay, so the substation is
Speaker 5: your over soul. So God's the power plant. Your oversoul,
Speaker 5: who you are is an entire being, is the substation.
Speaker 5: And then you are like the little house that's getting
Speaker 5: the electricity. So you're you know when you when you
Speaker 5: connect to that, it's coming internally. It's not coming to
Speaker 5: any other way. God comes through your oversoul connection. It's
Speaker 5: not the it's not something external. It comes from inside.
Speaker 5: You feel it inside you. So if you're in the void,
Speaker 5: make sure that you recognize that.
Speaker 4: You remember that.
Speaker 5: And like I said, if you're in these programs, you
Speaker 5: have to strip away the conditioning first, the belief systems first.
Speaker 5: And this includes negative behaviors and negative ways of thinking,
Speaker 5: because all of those are like a contract. If you
Speaker 5: engage that and continue to behave and think in those
Speaker 5: terms that they wanted you to think in, it's a
Speaker 5: containment protocol.
Speaker 4: It will keep you grounded in this world.
Speaker 5: What I've done and what I've tried to explain here,
Speaker 5: and it really needs to be in a book format.
Speaker 5: Is that what you're doing is is you're changing your
Speaker 5: frequency by stripping away all of the negativity and all
Speaker 5: the negative programming, the false belief systems. When you strip
Speaker 5: that away, you're raising your frequency closer and closer to
Speaker 5: your oversol frequency. If you're going to look at it
Speaker 5: from a frequency point of view, so it may be
Speaker 5: easier to understand it that way. That's why I'm presenting
Speaker 5: it that way. But what you're doing is now what
Speaker 5: I wanted to say is is that when you're traveling
Speaker 5: in the source field, you're literally willing yourself from place
Speaker 5: to place, So you're changing your frequency to match your destination.
Speaker 4: This is what you're doing in the void.
Speaker 5: You're not going to something that feels good. You're changing
Speaker 5: your frequency from within to match what you're feeling inside you.
Speaker 5: That pole home is what you need to connect to,
Speaker 5: and that starts with love. And when that love comes
Speaker 5: from inside and you feel it inside you and it's
Speaker 5: not coming from some tunnel, it's it's legitimate.
Speaker 4: You can trust it. You'll know when it happens.
Speaker 5: But you have to do the work here and here
Speaker 5: and now, and that that requires, like I said, stripping
Speaker 5: it all away and getting back to realizing that you
Speaker 5: were you were not you. You have been shaped, you've
Speaker 5: been formatted to be the person you are right now
Speaker 5: at the level of wareness you are. And now there's
Speaker 5: people say, well, that's not true. It isn't exactly true
Speaker 5: because the over soul is influencing. If you're open to that,
Speaker 5: that's going to shape you and make you a more
Speaker 5: spiritual person. Bring it and bring you closer to the
Speaker 5: you know, to the frequency of the creator, that energy
Speaker 5: of love. So you're basically going back to the root,
Speaker 5: your soul, your my collover sol integration is going back
Speaker 5: to your original self, who you were before you came
Speaker 5: into this universe. That's who you need to be now
Speaker 5: and be and choose to become that again and shed
Speaker 5: and all the programming does is it changes you to
Speaker 5: what they want you to be. And then eventually, you know,
Speaker 5: you either become a loyal my lab in the programs
Speaker 5: or you become an NPC one or the other. That's
Speaker 5: where they want you and one of those two categories.
Speaker 5: If you're useful to them. They want you to be
Speaker 5: a loyal my lab.
Speaker 4: They want you to.
Speaker 5: Stay asleep and they want you to just kind of
Speaker 5: embrace the NPC way of thinking and just not question
Speaker 5: anything and go along with it all, you know, except
Speaker 5: the evil, accept the Jeffrey Epstein's accept the corruption in
Speaker 5: the world. You know, just try to get by and
Speaker 5: do your own thing and block it all out. And
Speaker 5: that's what they you know, that's the message that a
Speaker 5: lot of people live by that. You know, it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to do anything, I don't want to
Speaker 5: change anything. I just want to get by. And but
Speaker 5: to go where you're going to go right back here,
Speaker 5: you're not going to get out. So my point is
Speaker 5: is you need to become who you used to be
Speaker 5: and no longer pursue who they wanted you to be.
Speaker 4: That's how you get out of here.
Speaker 5: And that's how you understand that inner poll, that feeling,
Speaker 5: that connection to God, that love in your heart that
Speaker 5: transcends all of this programming. That's what you need to do.
Speaker 5: You need to connect with that. It's from within. That
Speaker 5: whole home is from within, it's non external. And you know,
Speaker 5: and if you're in that void situation and you lack
Speaker 5: that connection, but you maintain cognitive stability, you kept your
Speaker 5: memory intact and weren't completely pulled out of your own
Speaker 5: true context. You know that you're dead, you know that
Speaker 5: you're an avoid your body's gone instead, but you're still alive,
Speaker 5: You're still conscious. You know not to go into that light,
Speaker 5: but you still have to connect with the Creator in
Speaker 5: a real way in order to get out. All you'll
Speaker 5: be doing is simply staying in a limbo, and you
Speaker 5: don't want to be limbo.
Speaker 4: You want to exit that void.
Speaker 5: In any AI type of constructor reality, they're going to
Speaker 5: try to lure you into because all they're doing is
Speaker 5: mooring you deeper and deeper into giving consent to reincarnate.
Speaker 4: That's all it is. They can't force it on you.
Speaker 4: They can't force you to do it, that's the rule.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, they can trick you into
Speaker 5: giving up and trick you into consenting to it. And
Speaker 5: once that happens, there's no turning back. You've given up control.
Speaker 5: And that's really I leave the fundamental design of the
Speaker 5: simulation itself. It was never designed to take away your
Speaker 5: free will because it would violate God's law. So in
Speaker 5: order for it, and I believe it started as a
Speaker 5: divine creation, but it turned became corrupt, and so those
Speaker 5: rules still apply and they can't be broken. So you
Speaker 5: have to use those rules to your advantage. You have
Speaker 5: free will, execute that free will, but do it out
Speaker 5: of love.
Speaker 3: That was awesome, man, you know, yeah, this is an
Speaker 3: awesome podcast. All right, guys. Well, I will see you
Speaker 3: guys tomorrow. I gotta get some rest.
Speaker 2: I got a bad flu, so I will see everybody tomorrow,
Speaker 2: but I'll be back tomorrow, guys.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and thank you anything. I love you like
Speaker 3: a brother man. And uh, guys,