Speaker 1: Well, normally I say no hits, de tracks, deep tracks.
Speaker 2: Only we follow the law of Andy Bernard.
Speaker 1: On the program today, Chris Camraaddie Live in studio, did
Speaker 1: you request the biggest of hits from the greatest jam
Speaker 1: band of all time?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Porter asked what I was in the mood for today,
Speaker 3: and I said I wasn't in the mood for anything.
Speaker 3: So he reverted to the mean. And the mean is
Speaker 3: is Dave. And sometimes there are hits and sometimes you
Speaker 3: just have to go with it.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, you Porter a hit. You produced this
Speaker 1: show every day. You're familiar with the by laws of
Speaker 1: the drive.
Speaker 4: I know it was very last second, as I was
Speaker 4: situating cameras and such, I came in here and we
Speaker 4: had one commercial but playing, so I just had to
Speaker 4: act quick.
Speaker 2: Now it's all good man, it's Dave Matthews.
Speaker 1: I will I will admit to you know, back in
Speaker 1: the day you caught the Office live, it wasn't you
Speaker 1: know something that.
Speaker 2: You could watch on every Thursday? Every Thursday? And the
Speaker 2: Andy Bernard Uh, he was skating right, he was at
Speaker 2: like a class back. Yeah, he was on Rollerskate when
Speaker 2: he dropped the whole d MB. No hits.
Speaker 1: Oh I l O L c K I L O
Speaker 1: L because it was perfect. Because you have to understand,
Speaker 1: I grew up with a lot of kids just like
Speaker 1: Andy Bernard. He is a perfect character for a lot of.
Speaker 2: The kids Ivy League, like.
Speaker 1: A sailor, not a lot of self awareness, not near
Speaker 1: as smart as he thinks he is. Brags about the
Speaker 1: school he went to even though he was a legacy,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole Cornell bit, but when he dropped
Speaker 1: the whole like Dave Matthews band, no hits deep tracks,
Speaker 1: because that's what most day fans would say, like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't really know Dave. Oh what
Speaker 1: do you think? Crash is the best song? Best Dave album?
Speaker 1: Have I asked you this before? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, under the Table, see it's before these crowded streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what day fans would tell you,
Speaker 1: because Under the Table is too bainstream, is it?
Speaker 2: It's BTCS, that's what we could say. It's after he
Speaker 2: sold out, it is it is God bless him.
Speaker 3: Going going back to our theme of last week of
Speaker 3: nineties music, selling out is no longer a thing. Back
Speaker 3: in the nineties, you were like the Nirvana's Pearl Jams, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know Pearl Jam all that well, but I
Speaker 3: feel like they were kind of the poster child of
Speaker 3: what selling out was like, wasn't didn't what's his face?
Speaker 3: Eddie Vedergan like mad because like some people thought one
Speaker 3: of his albums were too was to mainstream, so he
Speaker 3: got pouty about it.
Speaker 2: We just don't do that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think ultimately selling out just means you're making money
Speaker 1: for your music. Now, I'll tell you what though, I
Speaker 1: do feel like so Porter is a country music fan, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he refuses to listen to any country music artists
Speaker 1: who actually sells records. So I do think there's the
Speaker 1: sellout style on the countries, like Zach Bryan's sellout right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about this.
Speaker 3: My wife loves Zach Bryan, and anytime I send Porter
Speaker 3: like a John Prime song, He's like, Okay, now, this
Speaker 3: is this is what I'm talking about, right.
Speaker 2: Like there's sellout in country music these days, Right.
Speaker 4: There's definitely like a fine line between radio country. What
Speaker 4: I would say is, yeah, it's it's like independent labels
Speaker 4: and that that's I mean, that is a genre that
Speaker 4: is kind of done it. But if you're trying to
Speaker 4: make pop music or trying to make hip hop music,
Speaker 4: I don't really think you have that option as much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Porter constantly says, I listened to non radio country, right,
Speaker 1: so there's that, you know, the hipster country people now
Speaker 1: starting to manifest themselves this country how to sell out.
Speaker 1: That's okay because I came in one day. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: guess what I'm listening to some country man. I listened
Speaker 1: to Zach Bryan and Porter's like shaking said out, this
Speaker 1: is not it.
Speaker 2: Do you ever listen to Zach Brian? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I kind of reached my apex on Zach Bryan
Speaker 3: at the moment, but she is still riding that wave.
Speaker 3: So I just kind of have to tune out and
Speaker 3: do the listening to seagulls in my head and just
Speaker 3: tune it out.
Speaker 1: There you go, Chris Comrodnie live in studio, c K
Speaker 1: Happy Ones and man, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well? How are you? I'm good?
Speaker 1: I got a little voice thing, yeah, or we're working
Speaker 1: through it and take a little time off. I know
Speaker 1: you can. That's why you're here. In fact, you want
Speaker 1: to just carry the hour, do you want to interview you.
Speaker 2: I saw what the rundown is.
Speaker 1: It's me your guy, Bob's good vibes and coach Way
Speaker 1: and coach Way.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So we got a heavy hitter line of Chris Camaraddi,
Speaker 1: Pablo Mascoonni Kylewood.
Speaker 3: I've always been kind of a leadoff hitter. Have you know,
Speaker 3: like a squid down the third baseline, beat it out
Speaker 3: and just do make havoc on the basis.
Speaker 2: Can you lay down a bunt? I can? Okay, that's
Speaker 2: all that matters. So c k badding lead off? Do
Speaker 2: you think? And I'm gonna ask Kyle this.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma became I think the fourteenth major college football program
Speaker 1: to announce that they're not doing away with their spring game.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna do something different. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: look a lot like a pro day. They're gonna do
Speaker 1: some drills or whatever. But sc Nebraska, a lot of
Speaker 1: Florida State, a lot of big time college football programs
Speaker 1: have simply canceled their spring games.
Speaker 2: Roster.
Speaker 1: The roster number has been reduced to one oh five.
Speaker 1: When you play your first game, you can only have
Speaker 1: one hundred and five players on your roster. And I
Speaker 1: know that sounds like a lot, but that's down about
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty four players. And if you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, if you win your conference and you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's seventeen or eighteen football games, and you
Speaker 1: cannot add players during the season. Maybe at some point
Speaker 1: they'll find a mechanism for that. So I get it.
Speaker 1: If you're canceling your spring game as a result of
Speaker 1: the powers that be telling you have to cut your roster.
Speaker 1: Do you think this is something that's going to be
Speaker 1: commonplace in college football?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it could be, but I think
Speaker 3: at a place like Utah, you won't see it happen
Speaker 3: because of the Ty Jordan Aaron Low effects. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think the proceeds from that game go directly into
Speaker 3: the scholarship fund or something along those lines, if my
Speaker 3: mind serves me correctly. So I think Utah is a
Speaker 3: special circumstance. I think Kyle is a old school throwback
Speaker 3: kind of guy and wants to be able to see
Speaker 3: these guys play each other live. And I understand that
Speaker 3: even in recent years, you've held out the ones for
Speaker 3: the most part, and that makes sense. But I think
Speaker 3: the fact that they made their spring game something that
Speaker 3: means more than just a typical spring game. I think
Speaker 3: Utah will probably ride it out until their head coach
Speaker 3: decides they don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening under Kyle, But.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think like a pseudo pro day
Speaker 3: like flag football, kind of like a Pro Bowl style
Speaker 3: of an event. Isn't that bad of an idea because
Speaker 3: you simultaneously will be in theory entertaining your fans with
Speaker 3: a product that's supposed to be fun and engaging, and
Speaker 3: for head coaches who are all very paranoid, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: even necessarily need to tip your hand either. Well, who's
Speaker 3: on what side of the ball you could have, you know,
Speaker 3: your your center as the quarterback out there having fun.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, like I think eventually you could
Speaker 3: see the trend go in that direction.
Speaker 1: You know, it's actually to kind of stay in the
Speaker 1: space now that I'm thinking about it and what you
Speaker 1: just said as far as how you could cater it
Speaker 1: to just being more of a celebration of your program.
Speaker 1: Have the quarterbacks all compete against each other for throwing
Speaker 1: the ball through the tire or the target or whatever.
Speaker 1: Do kind of like a Pro Bowl type skill event challenge,
Speaker 1: because ultimately, as a head coach you do not want
Speaker 1: to lose any of your players, and as a fan,
Speaker 1: you're not learning anything anyway. It's just an excuse what
Speaker 1: some fans think they are even when they're.
Speaker 2: Not breaking news.
Speaker 1: You're not okay, it's just an excuse to call family
Speaker 1: on three and say, let's head up to Rise Cycles
Speaker 1: in all of our uteness. Yep, right, let's throw up
Speaker 1: the you okay, let's do the thing. But the game
Speaker 1: itself for me hasn't been interesting in I don't know
Speaker 1: a decade or more right as far as like, are
Speaker 1: we learning something about the schematics or the personnel?
Speaker 2: Oh? Correct?
Speaker 3: I think I can't remember what the setup was like
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen eighteen when it was like Tyler Huntley
Speaker 3: versus Troy Williams, good pull out. I mean I was
Speaker 3: on the beat back then, so like maybe that was
Speaker 3: one time where maybe it was worth it. But I agree,
Speaker 3: I just think like eventually you can see this whole
Speaker 3: thing be done away for a multitude of reasons. But
Speaker 3: I do think there is a way to if you
Speaker 3: want to simultaneously engage your fan base and make money
Speaker 3: off that.
Speaker 2: There is a way to do it.
Speaker 1: So we had a Rick Neuheisl on the show about
Speaker 1: a month ago, and I was with Rick up at
Speaker 1: this event that I am seed and I didn't know this.
Speaker 2: Rick was a walk on.
Speaker 1: He walked on at UCLA, eventually became their starting quarterback
Speaker 1: and was very good.
Speaker 2: Played some minor league football, never played in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about the new roster limits,
Speaker 1: because essentially, Ck, this is eliminating walk ons, like there
Speaker 1: will be no more walk ons, and the good news
Speaker 1: is there will be enough scholarships to carry through one
Speaker 1: oh five, Like you will have a scholarship if you
Speaker 1: want a college football team. Now, does eliminating the walk
Speaker 1: ons do anything to you?
Speaker 2: Who does that say anything to you?
Speaker 1: Because new Heisl's whole thing was like I was a
Speaker 1: walk on and I earned the starting job within two years,
Speaker 1: and we've seen a lot of walk ons earn jobs
Speaker 1: and you know, eventually earned scholarships.
Speaker 2: Doing away with walk ons in college football does that
Speaker 2: do anything?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean in this market, you could make an argument
Speaker 3: of it because you've seen so many guys be successful
Speaker 3: both at you know, byu and Utah. But in order
Speaker 3: to keep up with the Joneses, I think eventually you're
Speaker 3: just gonna have to maximize your resources in NIL and
Speaker 3: just focus on that. And I know that's a total bummer,
Speaker 3: and I know it's a defeatist attitude, but if you
Speaker 3: are left in the dust, I don't see you crawling
Speaker 3: your way out of the dust. And the idea of
Speaker 3: walk ons the you know, the Rudy story. You know,
Speaker 3: it's what everybody fell in love with when it came
Speaker 3: to like the the undersized underdog and football making a
Speaker 3: name for himself. But unfortunately, I think we're in an
Speaker 3: era of sports where it's like if you have if
Speaker 3: you can't help the team immediately, you kind of are forgott.
Speaker 1: I wonder so the ACC Florida Stanton Clemson, they ended
Speaker 1: the litigation on Tuesday and they've agreed to a settlement.
Speaker 1: The change of the league's revenue distribution model significantly reduces
Speaker 1: exit penalties, which ultimately is where this is going for
Speaker 1: members wanting to leave the conference before twenty thirty six.
Speaker 1: But Florida Stateton Clemson are now going to be receiving
Speaker 1: a much larger piece of the pie. Do you think
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve looks at this at all, and if
Speaker 1: they do look at it, who are the schools that
Speaker 1: actually will receive a bigger chunk?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's personally it makes sense.
Speaker 3: I don't know how fair it is, but if you
Speaker 3: are the Big twelve, it might make sense to deploy
Speaker 3: something like this. But you can deploy it with a
Speaker 3: outline saying that, like it could be from a year
Speaker 3: to year basis, like a what have you done for
Speaker 3: me lately? You can measure the success of you know,
Speaker 3: the money generating sports, you know, football and basketball teams,
Speaker 3: and then you could even go down the line. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's that cup or something that Stanford or Cal always
Speaker 3: win from having the most success varsity sports. You could
Speaker 3: you could employ that kind of model to say, like
Speaker 3: who's been the most successful And obviously you're gonna lean
Speaker 3: it and teer it with the money making sports at
Speaker 3: the top. But the Big twelve is so wonky. So
Speaker 3: it's like who stands out right now? I mean I
Speaker 3: don't think there's anybody. I mean, PYU would probably be
Speaker 3: one of the stands out. If you standouts, if you
Speaker 3: talk about like who's currently the most successful program?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like everybody is just maximizing their
Speaker 1: own brand right in their own kind of piece of
Speaker 1: real estate. And if you look at essentially what the
Speaker 1: numbers say concerning the Big Twelve, it's Colorado who could
Speaker 1: just say, look, we're tripling you every week three times
Speaker 1: the amount of eyes are on us, then it is
Speaker 1: on you. And that's everybody, right, That includes Utah, that
Speaker 1: includes BYU, that includes Kansas State or Oklahoma State. It
Speaker 1: probably if there's anybody that has an ace in there,
Speaker 1: and it's probably Dion right just because of the eyes
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: And I wonder if I think people will still watch
Speaker 3: Colorado this year, but I wonder if there's going to
Speaker 3: be a drop off without Travis Hunter. Yeah, without Shad
Speaker 3: or Sanders, especially Travis. I think people were tuning in
Speaker 3: to see what this kid could do. And who knows,
Speaker 3: maybe Colorado's going to be better all around football team
Speaker 3: this year, but there is a world in which Colorado
Speaker 3: could be better on the field and maybe get less
Speaker 3: eyeballs because they don't have as much top tier star talent.
Speaker 1: We did the exercise as far as the schools that
Speaker 1: probably have a little bit of leverage, and I did
Speaker 1: say at the time, I still think Utah's in that category.
Speaker 1: It just comes on the heels of a bad season.
Speaker 1: And we are in a growing media market. We've jumped
Speaker 1: in the Nielsen ratings, you know, over the past three
Speaker 1: or four years into the top twenty seven to twenty
Speaker 1: eight I think, and with hockey here and as the
Speaker 1: you know, the market kind of continues to grow if
Speaker 1: we can get if the Millers pull off baseball. I've
Speaker 1: seen some people pontificating on the possibility of us being
Speaker 1: like a top fifteen or sixteen market.
Speaker 2: Only time will tell.
Speaker 1: But is Utah a school like they don't have the
Speaker 1: eyes Colorado has. Colorado doesn't have the recent run of
Speaker 1: success with Pac twelve championships and Rose Bowls.
Speaker 2: And yes, I'm.
Speaker 1: Asking you off the heels of a season where it
Speaker 1: didn't look great. But does Utah have a case to
Speaker 1: be made if the Big twelve moves into this model,
Speaker 1: could Utah be one of the top shelf teams to
Speaker 1: ask for a bigger piece?
Speaker 3: They have to have a tremendous amount of success at
Speaker 3: the money making sports which they have. Women's basketball is
Speaker 3: you know, impressive, I mean, gymnastics, is ski teams I mean,
Speaker 3: the Red Rocks make a lot of money at this
Speaker 3: school compared to some of the other schools in the
Speaker 3: country and in the conference. But you I just don't
Speaker 3: think you're ever going to be able to compete with
Speaker 3: Dion As long as he's in the conference. I just
Speaker 3: think he is the great equalizer. And no matter who's
Speaker 3: on that team, I think you will get eyeballs, you
Speaker 3: will get people wanting to be to pay attention to
Speaker 3: what's going on there. So I do think if Utah
Speaker 3: wants to be one of those teams, they need to
Speaker 3: get back to where they were at the tail into
Speaker 3: their Pack twelve era.
Speaker 1: The BYU topic here is always fascinating because obviously Provo
Speaker 1: is not a media market that moves the needle at all,
Speaker 1: but BYU is a brand where everywhere they go they
Speaker 1: attract home fans basketball and football. In ames, Iowa last night,
Speaker 1: Kevin Young opened up BYU shoot around prior to the
Speaker 1: game to any BYU fan that wanted to come meet
Speaker 1: the players, and from what I saw on television, it
Speaker 1: looked like there were hundreds of people there to meet
Speaker 1: BYU players, So not just football basketball. BYU I think
Speaker 1: was fourth in the Big twelve in ises per game.
Speaker 1: But the BYU brand is worldwide and it is undeniable.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's not Notre Dame, even though you know some people
Speaker 1: want to compare the two. But is BYU just as
Speaker 1: a brand enough of a negotiating card for whoever's their
Speaker 1: ad to come to the table in this hypothetical to
Speaker 1: say we deserve to be among the top shelf teams
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because if you look at what happened even
Speaker 3: after they went independent, ESPN was like, we're going to
Speaker 3: partner with these guys, man, because we know that people
Speaker 3: are going to watch these games, even if they're at
Speaker 3: eight forty five pm local on a Saturday night. BYU
Speaker 3: is one of the most unique fan bases in schools
Speaker 3: in the country for that reason. And if BYU's good
Speaker 3: and if they can sustain this, I think they're absolutely
Speaker 3: in the mix.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: If you're Brett your Mark and you're looking at the schools,
Speaker 1: the schools come to you and say we want the
Speaker 1: ACC model. We want our bigger brands to get a
Speaker 1: bigger piece of the pie, because that's the way capitalism works.
Speaker 2: Shout out Elon, I'm going out of town.
Speaker 1: Today, Man, I feel like misbehaving. Arizona or Arizona State.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is right? Like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: an odd one. Arizona State just want the conference. Arizona
Speaker 1: basketball is a massive brand.
Speaker 2: Football will always be king. So you think Arizona State
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I don't. I mean, is
Speaker 2: Arizona the best team in the Big twelve right now? Basketball?
Speaker 2: It's Houston? So yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I think Arizona would have to be
Speaker 3: like a Duke or North Carolina level program again, especially
Speaker 3: in this conference, in order for them to be able
Speaker 3: to swing their weight.
Speaker 1: Houston's kind of an interesting one only because of the
Speaker 1: market size. Dallas is like the number six market. I
Speaker 1: don't know where Houston is.
Speaker 3: Football is a non starter there. I mean, maybe Willie
Speaker 3: Fritz turns it around.
Speaker 1: But like so so yes football as of now, But
Speaker 1: if if, if coach Fritz can get them into the
Speaker 1: top five or six their basketball team. I know you
Speaker 1: don't watch a ton of college basketball. Oh, it's like unfair.
Speaker 1: When Utah went and played them earlier this year, they
Speaker 1: the Youuthes couldn't even get a shot off. At one point,
Speaker 1: I think Uta had three made field goals and eight
Speaker 1: turnovers ox and one triangle and two at that four passes,
Speaker 1: Geene Hackman, Rest in Peace. Have you ever seen Hoosiers?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't like it? Oh wait wait hot,
Speaker 2: wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1: I remember I was at dinner with you and John
Speaker 1: Paul and you both said Hoosiers and Field of Dreams overrated,
Speaker 1: and you broke my heart.
Speaker 2: Best best basketball movie ever? I know? Are you ready?
Speaker 2: What fast break? Blue Chips? Blue Chips is an excellent movie.
Speaker 2: It is. I will allow that.
Speaker 3: I rewatched it recently, and it is insane the amount
Speaker 3: of press, prescienceness or whatever, how prescient that movie was
Speaker 3: considering where we are now off the charts.
Speaker 1: Trey would be proud of you from using prescients because
Speaker 1: he saw I am convinced that Trey has a word
Speaker 1: of the day pop up on some app and then
Speaker 1: he just tries to use it in converse. He loved
Speaker 1: Pressian is one of Trey's favorite favorite words. So yes,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Gene Hackman. Hoosiers is a good movie, dude,
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 3: It It plays to a very specific audience of people.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that whites, I didn't say it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, hey, it's been it's been a pretty
Speaker 1: good year for the whites on the sports side of
Speaker 1: the shooters.
Speaker 2: That's who it plays to.
Speaker 1: Mainly whites shooter shoot shooters who don't really donk or
Speaker 1: do much. Four passes before you shoot. H Anyway, best Reporter,
Speaker 1: Best basketball movie of all time?
Speaker 2: What do you got? I can tell you what it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not Coach Carter.
Speaker 4: What's the ray Allen one?
Speaker 2: Oh? He game is very good, very good.
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's the best, but it's my favorite.
Speaker 3: He got games probably one B for me, but rewatching
Speaker 3: Blue Chips. Nick Nolty, the kids don't know man. Once
Speaker 3: upon a time Nick would bring the heat, and he
Speaker 3: did in that movie. His Bob Knight impersonation is amazing.
Speaker 3: And side note, I recently came across a clip of
Speaker 3: Bobby Hurley on one of those barstool bro talk shows
Speaker 3: and he was talking about he was in Blue Chips
Speaker 3: because it was it was a Colbert Cheney Indiana team
Speaker 3: with Bobby, and he talked about how he talked about
Speaker 3: how Bobby Knight refused to follow any sort of script.
Speaker 3: He coached those scenes just like how he would in
Speaker 3: real life, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'll have to go back and rewatch that
Speaker 1: air Bud not bad. Finding Forrester was horrible. Never saw
Speaker 1: Sean Connery is the coach.
Speaker 2: Some people will say white men can't jump.
Speaker 1: I love the white but I actually enjoyed Finding Forrester
Speaker 1: until the end when Sean Connery dramatically turns around to
Speaker 1: the young man he's coaching and he goes, you' all
Speaker 1: the men now dog Like that sucks. I was so
Speaker 1: angry that porter you all the men, no dog? It
Speaker 1: just it irritated me. Anyway, best basketball movie of all time.
Speaker 1: I still think it's.
Speaker 2: Hoosier's Powerpool Wednesday. What did it used to be? It
Speaker 2: was Powerpool Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Wednesdays on the Bill and Spence Show were a very
Speaker 1: special day.
Speaker 2: I do or not? Oh, okay or not? The answer
Speaker 2: is blue chips, blue chips hot, Yeah, Hoosiers not. I
Speaker 2: mean it's not not hot. I mean.
Speaker 3: Rewatched Royal Tenenbaums again recently in the wake of Gene
Speaker 3: Hackman's passing. Not a sports movie, but one of the
Speaker 3: best performances in a movie ever just holds up so
Speaker 3: amazingly and I'll give you one. Gene Hackman as the
Speaker 3: football coach in the Replacements. Absolutely very underrated.
Speaker 2: Blue Chips forty rotten tomatoes. Dude, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Nobody talks about the fact that they got Shaquille O'Neal
Speaker 3: and Penny Hardaway to act in that movie, and like
Speaker 3: that is right as they're starting to peak in Orlando too.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Here's a hot take semi Pro Will Ferrell's most underrated role,
Speaker 1: most underrated movie.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. You've got to watch Semi Pro. Okay, whatdy?
Speaker 2: Harrelson's great in it.
Speaker 1: I have a list in front of me the top
Speaker 1: fifty eight basketball movies of all time. And they don't
Speaker 1: think hilia Blue Chips. They don't think highly a semi Pro.
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised you haven't seen Semi Pro. I think
Speaker 1: you'd like that movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. It slipped through the crack. The hell
Speaker 2: were we talking about? You have to see that movie?
Speaker 2: Of course, c K derailed us. How did we get here?
Speaker 2: You were talking about something? Yeah? Do you remember where
Speaker 2: were we for? Producer of this radio? Get us back
Speaker 2: on track.
Speaker 4: I think Chris brought up the weave something.
Speaker 3: Oh, you brought up Hoosiers and then I said, you
Speaker 3: were talking about how good Houston basket?
Speaker 2: There it is by you are bye. Parenthood might have
Speaker 2: fried my brain, but not that bad.
Speaker 1: This is called a man stone his thirties that has
Speaker 1: good habits. He's able to go He's able to go
Speaker 1: back and grab the piece of the conversation. No, the
Speaker 1: only reason I brought up Houston is that is a
Speaker 1: rather large market and their basketball program is awesome.
Speaker 2: But as we said, football is everything right now.
Speaker 1: So just the exercise of if the ACC has created
Speaker 1: a model to hang on to their top teams, will
Speaker 1: the Big twelve do the same, Because everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be in the Big ten SEC party. Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: sit at that lunch table because they're clearly again New
Speaker 1: Orleans two weeks ago. They don't even apologize for it, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're having meetings, but it's just us.
Speaker 2: Sorry, wait, I thought it was P four. Cool. You
Speaker 2: guys hang out.
Speaker 1: The SEC in the Big ten are gonna meet and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna tell you how things are gonna go.
Speaker 1: ACC's responses, We have to hang on at Clemson, Florida State.
Speaker 1: What do we do Okay, now we have a new
Speaker 1: model to make sure that if they leave, it's not
Speaker 1: as punitive, because at one point they were going to
Speaker 1: be paying like seven hundred million dollars to leave the conference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's down to like one thirty and then it
Speaker 1: goes down incrementally up until twenty thirty two. So I
Speaker 1: just wonder if the Big twelve is looking at this model,
Speaker 1: if they're saying, wait, we need to hang on to
Speaker 1: the Colorado's, the Utahs, the Byus.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think historically historically with Florida State, and I
Speaker 3: guess recently too, despite last year's debacle of a season,
Speaker 3: and Clemson, like, these are two programs that carry way
Speaker 3: entern money for you. I don't think there are any
Speaker 3: programs in the Big twelve right now that are on
Speaker 3: the same level.
Speaker 1: The number one movie on this list, You're still on it. No, No,
Speaker 1: I can do two things at once. I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with you. I'm just wondering if your Brett, your Mark,
Speaker 1: are you worried about losing the top you know, your big,
Speaker 1: big time programs the number one list. The movie on
Speaker 1: this list is something called the First slam Dunk. Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of this?
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Number two is Hoop Dreams, which is a documentary though
Speaker 1: okay that's fair, but which I agree is Hoop Dreams
Speaker 1: was the first documentary that I ever remember watching, and
Speaker 1: I watched it in school and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is pretty heavy.
Speaker 2: It was watching school. I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 1: Interviewed Arthur ag a couple of years ago, randomly followed
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. I'm like, dude, will you come on
Speaker 1: my radio because I've watched that probably two hundred times.
Speaker 2: I thought it was so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have Adam Sandler's hustle at for this list sucks?
Speaker 2: Who's your your guy? Jazz legend? Shout out? Who's yours is?
Speaker 2: At six? Where's blue Chips Blue?
Speaker 1: I told you it's all the way. It's like at thirty.
Speaker 1: They don't like it. It's next to Semi pros. That
Speaker 1: is despicable man, you know the man now dog that
Speaker 1: put me in the worst. I was watching the movie
Speaker 1: kind of liking it.
Speaker 2: I'll give respect to Sean Connery. By the way, Who's
Speaker 2: Who's James Bond in your mind?
Speaker 3: I mean, just because of the era that I grew
Speaker 3: up in it's Pierce Brosn. But my dad is a
Speaker 3: big James Bond guy and loves Sean Connery.
Speaker 2: Connery's bond to me. Who's Batman?
Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Keaton forever. I've gotten into an argument with
Speaker 3: that correct answer. I've gotten into an argument with my
Speaker 3: friends about this ad nauseum.
Speaker 2: They are all about bail, bail.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no, dude, yeah, bail is okay, bail
Speaker 3: best Bruce Wayne, Michael Keaton best Batman.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can ride with that. But as long as
Speaker 1: Keaton's Batman, we're on the same pressure. All Right, weird start.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving town, so I'm misbehaving. We're going to catch
Speaker 1: a quick break, but we got one more long segment.
Speaker 2: C K's carrying me through because I've got a voice issue.
Speaker 1: We've got a powerhouse list of guests, Chris Cameronnie, Pablo Masteronnie,
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, coach who joins us in about one hour
Speaker 1: from now. If you're rolling your eyes that were ranking
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Speaker 2: Betta Beevy sneaky. Yeah. Underrated Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3: Oh, very underrated. I mean in the Sandler lexicon. It's
Speaker 3: probably four or five. But that's still that's still good
Speaker 3: enough for me on a good day. Are you pulling
Speaker 3: him up?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just looking because because I wanted, because it's
Speaker 1: Steve Buscemi was in that movie.
Speaker 2: But anything John like he kills it and everything. Yeah. Rounders?
Speaker 2: You watching sever Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm two behind. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm about to catch up on the flight. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Oh I like the look you.
Speaker 1: Just gave me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in for a yep.
Speaker 1: But Ttuo was in Rounders with Matt Damon and Ed
Speaker 1: Norton as like the pro gambler.
Speaker 2: Anything to Turro's in is he he.
Speaker 3: Is one of the coaches and he got game. That's recruiting,
Speaker 3: right is.
Speaker 1: The uh he Got Game? Movie is not for children?
Speaker 1: So a Spike Lee joint. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: I saw that I probably was seeing for the first
Speaker 1: time as a teenager.
Speaker 2: I want to watch that movie. So earl the Pearl,
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Speaker 1: Good good poll So make sure the kids are in
Speaker 1: better if you're gonna watch He Got Game.
Speaker 2: Peter Gallagher was in that movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, goodness, Johnny Mack, Yeah, shar Best Adam Sandler movie.
Speaker 3: Go oh, best or most quotable either, probably happy Gilmore.
Speaker 3: It's Gilmore and Madison one A one B for me.
Speaker 1: It will always be those two. Yeah, you're thinking too hard.
Speaker 1: I would probably go Gilmore one.
Speaker 2: I think I think I would too.
Speaker 1: See these lists suck Rotten Tomatoes. Best Sandler movie. They
Speaker 1: say it's hustle. It's very not did you like on
Speaker 1: cut Gems.
Speaker 2: I loved it, but it stressed me out. I'll never
Speaker 2: watch it again.
Speaker 3: On Struggle, Oh, wedding singer also under rated? Okay, wedding
Speaker 3: singers in the mix. My most underrated Sandler movies Anger Management.
Speaker 1: Anger Management is excellent. Fifty first Dates not great. Great
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Speaker 1: to fall back in love with her. I'm leaving town.
Speaker 1: So what are we talking about? All right, Chris Comrodnie
Speaker 1: live in studio. We did a lot of college college
Speaker 1: football last segment. Let's jump over now to little college
Speaker 1: hoops where Jeff Goodman, John Rothstein, Sean O'Connell, our very
Speaker 1: own Sean O'Connell.
Speaker 2: You want you want to throw Chris comranni in the mix.
Speaker 2: Chris Comronnie, are you reporting too? It's not done yet.
Speaker 2: I've been told wait, you have inside information? All right?
Speaker 2: All right, well then let's get serious here. Let's do
Speaker 2: some serious sports occerator on a website, some journalism.
Speaker 1: So we have Rostein and Goodman are two of the
Speaker 1: main college basketball newsbreakers, and Sean has his sources as well.
Speaker 1: Alex Jensen is thought to be high speed ahead to
Speaker 1: land and become the next head coach.
Speaker 2: Tell us what you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like the deal should be imminent in
Speaker 3: the next twenty four to forty eight hours, but it
Speaker 3: has not done yet, so these things take time. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Alex is actively coaching the Dallas Mavericks. I think they're
Speaker 3: in Milwaukee tonight, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, everything
Speaker 3: is trending in that direction. As national and some other
Speaker 3: local reporters have already reported.
Speaker 1: Let's see the Mavericks are in Milwaukee tonight. Alex is
Speaker 1: on that staff. Tim McMahon our guy, Tony Jones on
Speaker 1: the show. They both have said they know that Alex
Speaker 1: is in the last year of his deal. I guess
Speaker 1: the MAVs decided to extend Jason Kidd but did not
Speaker 1: extend his assistants for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: So let's kind of stay in the space.
Speaker 1: So Chris Comrodnie, who has his sources, is reporting on
Speaker 1: The Drive Monday through Friday, two to six, live everyday,
Speaker 1: no exceptions. Alex Jensen is on the way to potentially
Speaker 1: be the next head coach for the Utah men's basketball team. Yes,
Speaker 1: these things are complex, Yes they take time. You hear
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that five years ago when
Speaker 1: Mark did it again, five years ago when Mark decided
Speaker 1: to move on from coach Kris Koviak, there were conversations
Speaker 1: with Alex, but they didn't go very well.
Speaker 2: Do you have any insight there. It's not that they
Speaker 2: didn't go very well.
Speaker 3: I think Alex at the time, as you've alluded to,
Speaker 3: and a lot of other people have alluded to, Alex
Speaker 3: was the first assistant on one of the best teams
Speaker 3: in the NBA, was credited with, you know, transforming one
Speaker 3: of the most awkward prospects in recent history into a
Speaker 3: now four time Defensive Player of the Year and future
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. And in twenty nineteen, he interviewed for
Speaker 3: the Cavs job. So like, I think at the time,
Speaker 3: there were a lot of people that thought alex was
Speaker 3: going to get a shot. And who knows, maybe if
Speaker 3: COVID doesn't happen, maybe if all of the things, if
Speaker 3: all of the if the yarn doesn't disassemble, the if
Speaker 3: things don't fray, if the Jazz stay good, if Donovan
Speaker 3: and Rudy stay here, there's a chance alex Is is
Speaker 3: a head coach in the NBA.
Speaker 2: YEP. I think his exit was just.
Speaker 3: A byproduct of that era ending much sooner than a
Speaker 3: lot of people expected. But now he's coaching on a
Speaker 3: team that you can argue has had the most snake
Speaker 3: bitten regular season in the history of the NBA. Maybe
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just everyone's a victim to since
Speaker 3: he bias, but they are probably not going to make
Speaker 3: the postseason now I would I would guess if Anthony
Speaker 3: Davis will probably not play the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: I think they're like in the tenth spot. And I
Speaker 3: know the Phoenix Suns are their own disaster, but I
Speaker 3: would imagine the Sons will eventually catch them because I
Speaker 3: don't think a team of Spencer Dinwiddie and let's see,
Speaker 3: I can get somebody else on that team.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me. Is Dwight Powell on that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, good job Branford, Stanford grad Dwight Powell. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I just think we're in a different era now. A
Speaker 3: head coaching job in the Big twelve will pay you
Speaker 3: more than an assistant coaching job in the NBA, and
Speaker 3: I would imagine that that is part of this as well.
Speaker 3: You know, Alex is a Utah kid through and through.
Speaker 3: I know he didn't go to the I know he
Speaker 3: went to Bountiful's rival.
Speaker 1: He's lucky he went to Humont. Okay, I can be
Speaker 1: very clear about that. But yeah, his his family loves
Speaker 1: it here, you know, they it. I think the stars
Speaker 1: are aligning, and I think this is your speculation on
Speaker 1: my part. I think there's a reason now if you
Speaker 1: can get this across the line. Why you know, Mark
Speaker 1: Carlin and Utah decided to dismiss Craig Craig Smith when
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, no, the timing makes a lot more
Speaker 1: sense when you learned that potentially they had their target
Speaker 1: mind all along. I wonder, do you think or maybe
Speaker 1: you know this, Do you think Mark has kind of
Speaker 1: changed the way he's gone about this process, because there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know this to be true, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: on the show and off the show have said, last
Speaker 1: time they're overtures to Mark about you got to hire
Speaker 1: a Utah guy, we're just met with deaf ears.
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know that I have a problem with that,
Speaker 2: because you and I have.
Speaker 1: Discussed this quite a Yeah, you and I have just
Speaker 1: discussed this quite a bit. Like all due respect to
Speaker 1: Josh Grant, who is one of the best to ever
Speaker 1: do it at Utah, Josh Grant was a dude, because
Speaker 1: you know, that's how I like to put it when
Speaker 1: it comes to good players.
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame interview on the Drive too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: bring him back more often.
Speaker 1: No, No, Josh Grant could come. We can chop it up anytime.
Speaker 1: But Josh Grant back in the day was a problem.
Speaker 1: Like if he was born ten years later, he probably
Speaker 1: would have been a ten or twelve year NBA guy.
Speaker 2: So I respect Josh.
Speaker 1: He was a great player, and I do appreciate the
Speaker 1: candor and honesty that he brought to the show last week.
Speaker 1: But like I can remember a lot of friends of
Speaker 1: mine that played basketball at Utah, A lot of alums
Speaker 1: would talk about how they kept trying to call Larry
Speaker 1: Kriskoviak and trying to offer help, and I either couldn't
Speaker 1: get a call back or he wouldn't answer the phone.
Speaker 1: And I would even say to them like dude, Larry Craig, Larry,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm going to get on the plane. So
Speaker 1: even back when Larry was around, I heard from a
Speaker 1: lot of like ute alums that they tried to get
Speaker 1: ahold of Larry and his staff to help and they
Speaker 1: didn't really get a lot of invites or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's not Larry's job.
Speaker 1: And so when Josh kind of dropped the same thing,
Speaker 1: like a lot of alums tried to call Craig and
Speaker 1: say can we help and he said no, I've got this,
Speaker 1: Like I don't have an issue with that, Like Craig's
Speaker 1: job is not to cater to alums.
Speaker 2: It was to coach his team.
Speaker 1: But it was kind of the same feel about last
Speaker 1: time around when they were making this higher.
Speaker 2: According to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: They tried to reach out to Mark to say we
Speaker 1: need a Utah guy, and Mark wasn't necessarily open to that. Avenue,
Speaker 1: do you think something's changed or do you really feel
Speaker 1: like he thinks Alex is the right candidate?
Speaker 3: Now, I mean, just my opinion. I think Alex is
Speaker 3: the right candidate because he is a guy who has
Speaker 3: ties to the university that can stimulate a donor base
Speaker 3: that badly needs stimulating. And he's a guy who's proven
Speaker 3: he can coach. And we talked about this on the
Speaker 3: show a couple of weeks ago. It's like it is
Speaker 3: not rocket science these days. Find a guy who can coach,
Speaker 3: and find a guy who can get money from donors,
Speaker 3: and then that that coach who can coach will use
Speaker 3: that money to go out and hopefully recruit good players.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's E equals MC squared whatever A plus BK
Speaker 3: will see like it is that and that's it, period,
Speaker 3: end of story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and watching what the Kevin Young hire has done
Speaker 1: for BYU Basketball in less than a year. I think
Speaker 1: it's a model that you got to look at because
Speaker 1: the sports changed, and you know the ability that Kevin
Speaker 1: has and Alex has two to go sit in a
Speaker 1: living room with parents and most of these parents believe
Speaker 1: their kids are going to be pros, and the kids
Speaker 1: think they're pros at sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. I
Speaker 1: always tell this anecdote because I can remember John Calipari
Speaker 1: was interviewed prior to one of you know, a UK
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago, and the broadcaster asked
Speaker 1: col how many pros do you have on your roster?
Speaker 1: And he said, I have twelve. Out go ask them.
Speaker 1: Just go in the locker room and go ask them.
Speaker 1: I have twelve.
Speaker 2: They to be fairly well.
Speaker 1: I mean they may have had four or five, right right,
Speaker 1: So all these kids think they're going to go pro.
Speaker 1: And so for Kevin young to be able to go
Speaker 1: into aj De Bounce's live in a room with his
Speaker 1: father and say, I heard your favorite player of all
Speaker 1: time is Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: There's his cell phone. Do you want to FaceTime him
Speaker 2: right now? Oh? I heard your favorite player is Kevin Booker.
Speaker 2: We're buddies.
Speaker 1: I'll text him and you want an autograph, Chris Paul whatever,
Speaker 1: Alex can go sit in a living room and say Luka, Doncic,
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Donovan Mitchell, Gordon Hayward,
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2: Oh you like those players? G times on the list.
Speaker 1: It was an all star once you look. Gordon Hayward
Speaker 1: prior to the leg injury. Gordon's last full year here,
Speaker 1: he was awesome. He was really good. That's why it
Speaker 1: sucked that he left after he got hurt. He never
Speaker 1: was able to recapture his form. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of decent years in Charlotte. But yeah, yeah, too, big
Speaker 1: Yo is on the list.
Speaker 2: K No.
Speaker 3: I agree with you wholeheartedly, and that is part of
Speaker 3: it as well. I've told you this for years. Man
Speaker 3: like Utah just hasn't had an enticing roster of players
Speaker 3: or an enticing style of play to pay for or
Speaker 3: to and watch periods consistently.
Speaker 2: Period end of story.
Speaker 3: And I know Craig's hiring came out a flashpoint in
Speaker 3: college athletics. You know he was hired I think in
Speaker 3: end of March twenty twenty one, and that is right
Speaker 3: when NIL started to take off. You're coming out of
Speaker 3: the real peak part of COVID fog. Craig didn't do
Speaker 3: a good enough job recruiting good enough players, period, end
Speaker 3: of story. Now there's an argument to be made that
Speaker 3: he didn't have NIL resources at his disposal to do that,
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it's a resultspace business.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think you know that. I think
Speaker 3: most people know that. So now Utah, if they can
Speaker 3: get this over the line, they're relying on a piece
Speaker 3: of you know, the glory days, the heyday to come
Speaker 3: back and restore something that really hasn't been seen on
Speaker 3: a consistent level in twenty five years since Yeah, twenty
Speaker 3: five years, just had the Larry blip in like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 3: decent years, you know, six sweet sixteen, run good, good,
Speaker 3: good run. But just looking at like ninety to like
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, they were in it almost every
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a prize if Utah wasn't.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly no well said, and a surprise that they
Speaker 1: didn't at least win a couple of games.
Speaker 2: Yep. And I continue to say this, and you might
Speaker 2: have some memories.
Speaker 1: Even though I'm older than you are, I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: if you're a ute student listening to the show, first
Speaker 1: of all, wow, because you have so much that you
Speaker 1: can do that you're streaming on the internship. We had
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson as an interne's in the NFL. But do
Speaker 1: you want to be an NFL player, you should be
Speaker 1: an intern here. But if you're a student listening to this,
Speaker 1: I'm blown away. Thank you. You just don't know what
Speaker 1: it's like to be on campus in March when your
Speaker 1: team is really good. It's really fun. It is it's
Speaker 1: it's a really fun time. I can remember during those days.
Speaker 1: We would plan our days around like where are we
Speaker 1: getting together to watch these games? The youth's playing the
Speaker 1: tournament today or it's the sweet sixteen? Are we getting
Speaker 1: to get like in the student body has an experienced
Speaker 1: in a long long time. You know what it's like
Speaker 1: when the football team is good and the muss is
Speaker 1: crazy impressive. But I just I would love that for
Speaker 1: this community because it was so fun when I was
Speaker 1: a student there in the late nineties.
Speaker 2: Is one of my favorite things.
Speaker 3: And you guess, the best player on the running utes
Speaker 3: roster when I was there. I guess yeah, my junior
Speaker 3: year oh seven oh seven, Luca Derca, he wasn't the
Speaker 3: best player or one of the best. Others grateful with
Speaker 3: a Neville, Johnny Bryant.
Speaker 1: Johnny Bryant was good player, he was a good LEADU guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jack O LEDI had.
Speaker 1: A good team with Bogu, But Bogat was a Majeris recruit, right,
Speaker 1: because I think they went to the Sweet sixteen. But no,
Speaker 1: it has been since Rick. The consistency has not been
Speaker 1: there since Majeri's left. There's just no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And I don't think this community has been invigorated or
Speaker 1: inspired by the program since then either, ye Leeve, you know,
Speaker 1: save a few except that you and I've already talked about,
Speaker 1: and Jack had one, Boylan had one, Larry had a couple.
Speaker 1: Craig really didn't, you know, they never went to the tournament.
Speaker 1: He had some decent wins Oregon, Arizona, whatever. But if
Speaker 1: we're honest, the consistent consistency, as far as winning, entertaining
Speaker 1: style of play, and engagement from the community, it hasn't
Speaker 1: been there since Rick.
Speaker 3: Well, and at the risk of sounding to Kurt like
Speaker 3: nobody really gives a rip about big wins in the
Speaker 3: regular season exactly, Like, what are your big wins? Come
Speaker 3: conference tournament time and getting into the dance.
Speaker 1: Well, and getting into the dance is the number one thing.
Speaker 1: You leave a lot of money on the table. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why college basketball is still a revenue generator
Speaker 1: is because of the tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, period, end of story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean still to this day. It is an
Speaker 3: equalizer in the sense that people who do not watch
Speaker 3: college basketball will tune in for the first and second
Speaker 3: round exactly. People who do not watch college basketball will say,
Speaker 3: help me fill out my bracket. I have money on
Speaker 3: the line at my work pool. Like that is still
Speaker 3: going on on.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 3: You don't really get that in any other sport. So
Speaker 3: I think that kind of transcends the cultural part of
Speaker 3: sports in America.
Speaker 1: All Right, before we take a break, a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes here with c K. Because we want to make
Speaker 1: sure that Trey isn't just tortured by his own thoughts.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's do him a favor and talk some
Speaker 1: RSL because he's such a tortured person that if he
Speaker 1: hears us talking soccer, it might distract him. From his
Speaker 1: own mental illness and be happy for a moment.
Speaker 2: It was a young boy.
Speaker 3: Well I'm ready, but this was a prescient moment because
Speaker 3: you Tray knew, Trey knew that we were going to
Speaker 3: talk about the lads.
Speaker 1: There's a compendium of things to talk about. Shout out
Speaker 1: Gerald about RSL. First of all, let's just talk about
Speaker 1: a positive result home opener MLS Seattle Seattle can't win here,
Speaker 1: which is pretty wild because very like on paper, these
Speaker 1: two teams right now, Seattle should beat him every single time, agreed,
Speaker 1: But they roll in here and like they always do,
Speaker 1: they couldn't get anything started. And RSL gets an own
Speaker 1: goal in the first half, our guy Forrester right his
Speaker 1: second goal. Maybe they have your Forester kit yet, Maybe
Speaker 1: they don't. Hey, I don't And if you're listening, Trey,
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting.
Speaker 3: Maybe they don't need a nine. My guy, you're riding
Speaker 3: the good good vibes.
Speaker 2: Wave to nil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me your thoughts. A very odd own goal.
Speaker 3: I mean, knew who knew?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: Who is Sam stay Skull's favorite MLS player of all
Speaker 3: time because he's so entertaining to watch and goofy as
Speaker 3: you could tell on that own goal gives him a gift.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that definitely settled the nerves. I mean eight
Speaker 3: minutes in, Like you could imagine what American first field
Speaker 3: would have looked like if it was like the sixtieth
Speaker 3: minute and it's nil mill Sorry at the riot, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say aff but I mean it's a different
Speaker 3: looking team when Oheeda and Ellie are in the middle
Speaker 3: of the park together. Honestly, like, for sure, I think
Speaker 3: they're just better. I thought Quentin and Glad had a
Speaker 3: really good looking connected partnership. There wasn't a lot of
Speaker 3: disconnectivity there, Like a lot of strike in previous games
Speaker 3: had maybe a little too much room. There wasn't a lot.
Speaker 3: And I know Seattle doesn't necessarily play with the true
Speaker 3: number nine anyways, as you know, I mean Jordan Morris
Speaker 3: is really a true winger since they moved on from
Speaker 3: Rawlry Diaz. But they have a ton of good players
Speaker 3: to throw out at opposing teams, and they have so
Speaker 3: many diverse pieces now since adding your guy. Heyes, Susperrera, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean kind of false nine as you like to
Speaker 3: call to Paul Ariola. Anyways, great result, but you got
Speaker 3: to make the move soon. Man, you got to make
Speaker 3: the move soon because these things take so much longer
Speaker 3: than people think. Like RSL could conceivably have a guy
Speaker 3: that they might have offered already, but before you can
Speaker 3: get documents signed, before you start the visa process. Like
Speaker 3: Dunny said it on your show earlier this week. Now,
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be harder than ever to get an
Speaker 3: impact player in at an optimal time because of the
Speaker 3: function of the government right now. So like you, basically
Speaker 3: you can't go into May with your guy Forrester and
Speaker 3: rifpol as your two number nine.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 1: Is there a striker in Greenland that we can look
Speaker 1: at or you know, based off the current clot I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I like where your heads at. Well, the
Speaker 1: window closes late April, yeah, right, so we got about
Speaker 1: six weeks.
Speaker 3: Right, But if you if you, let's say you get
Speaker 3: a move done mid April, how long before they get
Speaker 3: their visa? And then the acclamation process of training with
Speaker 3: people like you can't just come over here and like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for my visa, like takes a long time.
Speaker 2: It is pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever really understood the process until
Speaker 1: Garth kind of outlet.
Speaker 2: He just outlined everything to me. He's like, this is
Speaker 2: exactly he dumbs it down for he does.
Speaker 1: He does, and you know, and then you hear the
Speaker 1: horror stories of how many players that they actually thought
Speaker 1: they had and it fell through and it wasn't because
Speaker 1: the player didn't want to come, or they didn't want
Speaker 1: the play, or there was some sort of piece of
Speaker 1: paperwork that didn't get done in time, and then the
Speaker 1: window closes and you're screwed.
Speaker 2: It's a it's an nine, right, Like it's got to
Speaker 2: be a nine.
Speaker 3: It's got to be a nine. It maybe needs to
Speaker 3: be another like ten or winger, because I know, I
Speaker 3: don't know who. I don't know if Diogo has a
Speaker 3: guy in our friend group. I don't know if like
Speaker 3: Diogo is a JP guy, a FALK guy.
Speaker 2: I think everybody's still waiting. Okay.
Speaker 3: My point is is that like he gives big time,
Speaker 3: not even Robin Vibes, Like I don't even know what
Speaker 3: this Robin's sidekick is, but like he is not playing
Speaker 3: like the type of player that they're paying him to
Speaker 3: be or paid for him. So if it's doable, I
Speaker 3: think RSL probably needs to make two big moves. I
Speaker 3: think they need to bring bring in another winger or
Speaker 3: central attacking player because you're gonna play a bunch of games.
Speaker 3: And while the fans love Diego Luna, if Diego Luna
Speaker 3: isn't here long term, who is going to be that
Speaker 3: that lynchpin in the attacking midfield dominic? Mark Zu, you know,
Speaker 3: talented player has looked really good, but like he's I
Speaker 3: can't even think how many goals are assists he has
Speaker 3: since coming over to the club.
Speaker 2: Not many.
Speaker 3: I mean, Lachlan Brook seems just like a squad rotational player.
Speaker 3: If you're going to compete in the Western Conference, you
Speaker 3: need to have some dudes.
Speaker 1: You need to have dudes who love ball. That's the
Speaker 1: way I put it. Diego did have the assist on
Speaker 1: my guy.
Speaker 2: Ford, and it was great. It was a great ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm just saying, like killer mentality, instilling fear
Speaker 3: in the opponent. Not it, definitely not it, And maybe
Speaker 3: it's there deep down. And Donney had a good point,
Speaker 3: Like I watched him play on those Copenhagen teams that
Speaker 3: were in Champions League and he was a great player,
Speaker 3: but he was a role player on those teams. Like
Speaker 3: he wasn't a guy who was like, Hey, we're going
Speaker 3: to bring in this dude to dictate the pace of
Speaker 3: a game for ninety minutes, fair.
Speaker 1: Enough before I set you loose. What do you know
Speaker 1: about San Diego? Not the city but the team RSL's
Speaker 1: playing that.
Speaker 3: They've looked really, really good in the first two weeks.
Speaker 3: They do not look like an expansion franchise. They beat
Speaker 3: La Galaxy on their home turf and the opener. I
Speaker 3: think they were held to a draw last week in
Speaker 3: their home opener. But they have Chuquy Chuqui Lozano, who
Speaker 3: is a Mexican national team star, and they will be
Speaker 3: no rollover for sure.
Speaker 1: San Diego has an MLS team. Why don't you throw
Speaker 1: your resume over there? What am I gonna do there,
Speaker 1: dude San Diego? Right, I know, the time I land
Speaker 1: in San Diego, I say, why don't I live here?
Speaker 3: Correct? But I'm going to counter this with this. Every
Speaker 3: one of my friends who've ever worked for a club
Speaker 3: say it is very rewarding, but it is the most taxing,
Speaker 3: tiresome job in.
Speaker 2: Existence.
Speaker 3: If you work for the Jazz, you have to go
Speaker 3: to forty one home games or maybe eighty two. If
Speaker 3: you work for RSEL, you have to go to thirty
Speaker 3: four games, maybe thirty eight.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, man, dude, I'm you know. We
Speaker 2: we can do an entire week of radio shows.
Speaker 1: Why it is a complete farce that they have sold
Speaker 1: you you want to work in sports so badly? They're
Speaker 1: going to pay a thirty five K for ninety hours
Speaker 1: of work. Why do you think I do this every day?
Speaker 1: Why do you think I do what I do too?
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