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So the most valuable Promotions card was the most prominent

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one in the United States. The main event, the final fight,

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the co main event final fight was a stink bomb.

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I can tell because Rayfael Rayfield says he could smell

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it from northern Virginia. It was not good. It was

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not good, but at least the co main event fight

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was really good. So we're gonna begin with Yankiel Rivera

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and Angelino cord Angelino Cordova and a flightweight title fight

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that had no winner. That was the main event, all right?

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What about in this fight? Not good?

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Speaker 2: No, the styles just did not mesh at all. I mean,

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I actually was sort of surprised because I'm not the

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same I thought it was going to be like this rousing,

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intense battle. And to be honest, I thought this even

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before they turned in this thing bomb. I felt like

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that the co feature that we're going to talk about.

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That was a tremendous fight. That is a I will

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be on an honorable mention Fight of the Year list.

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That was the theeas A Boss Barrow fight was phenomenal.

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I thought from when the card was first announced that

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should have been the main event. Now, my I don't

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know this, but I'm gonna just use my educated guess

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about why they did that. It's because Yankill rivera an

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Olympian from Puerto Rico. He has just signed with that

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with Most Valuable Promotions And whereas the other fighters were

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not they you know, Tees is not with them entirely.

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He's with Box Lab and Warriors Boxing. So I feel

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like MVP wanted to give their guy the shine in

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the made.

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Speaker 1: For their own one of the guys I signed, right,

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they may.

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Speaker 2: Be involved with the others, but this was for them,

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was like a bigger deal. But in the end, the

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fight was no good. You know, I'm not saying they

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put it on and not you know, thinking it was

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going to be no good. Sometimes you put a fight on,

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it just does not mesh. And that was what happened.

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It was a messy, dirty fight that was just filled

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with constant fouling. Luis Pabone, who was the referee, earned

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his money in a big way. It was just ridiculous.

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They were throwing. It was like, as I wrote in

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my piece about the fight, it resembled much more of

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a wrestling match than as a boxing match. It was

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just terrible. But in the end I thought it was

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sort of apropos that it turned out to be a draw.

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It was a majority draw. They had one judge had

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it one fifteen to one thirteen in favor of Cordova.

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vacant WBA Interim Flyway title and a pox on the WBA.

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reason is because if you go back just a few

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weeks ago, you had Ricardo Sandobal pulling off the big

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upset in Japan against can Share Taraji to win two

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of the belts, including the WBA and the WBC. So

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he's been active, he just won a few weeks ago.

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There was literally zero reason for this to be made

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into an interim title fight, even if Taraji had won,

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he would have retained the title and had been active.

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of stopping creating these extraneous belts. So I'm sure they'll

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figure out a way to make another vacant interim flyway

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titled out. But at least it did it went unfilled

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in this particular fight. Now they called it a draw,

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and it was a shitty fucking fight for sure. However,

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I did didn't think Yanki Rivera did enough to win

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the fight. Now, I'd be less than honest if I

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said I literally and I do score. When I talk

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about how I was scoring, I do like type in

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or write down each individual round by round score so

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I can look at it and tell you, well, I

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had it X, y Z the score. I didn't score

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this fight like that because it sucks so bad. I

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just stopped. But I was, you know, paying close attention

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to it. I felt like Reval probably eked it out.

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But be that as the may they called it a draw.

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It was a garbage fight. Cordova is so fucking dirty

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it's ridiculous. He really is the one that that initiated

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a lot of the dirty.

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Speaker 1: Tackles I'm asking because some of the audience maybe one

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it was maybe going to be a d Q because

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of whatever Cordova was doing.

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Speaker 2: Now they were they were kind of both giving it

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back and forth. I mean there was like like Rivera

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would retaliate. They were they but it was some of

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it was just because the styles weren't good. So they

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would get into a clinch and they would wrestle and

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they would both wind up on the canvas. At one point,

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there was when Cordova threw a absolutely blatant punch behind

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the head that Pabone finally took a point away from him.

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that's the most dangerous punch and boxing just to just

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cannot do that. And I think Pabone also got so

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sick and tired of watching them grapple and wrestle that

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at one point in the fourth round, when there were

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some punches thrown but they ended up on the canvas,

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I felt like it was just a wrestling move. He

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was like fucking and just called a knockdown, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well and you mentioned he's a veteran championship referee. And

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we've seen him before, Oh sure, go after fighters for

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fouling or for or for not doing something. So it

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kind of surprises me that he didn't warn one or

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both of them. I'm just gonna end and they got warned.

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Is they got I'm gonna dq one of you or

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are in this?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it rose to that level, I guess.

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So he does, so he does take away so he

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so he does call the knockdown. Uh, and so Rivera

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gets a ten eight round that round. So the other

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reason why you feel like the draw was maybe unfair

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is because not only does Rivera get the credit for

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a knockdown that would have made that a ten to

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a round, when he docked a point, that's another point

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that's taken away from Cordova. But when I looked at

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the official scorecards, two of the judges score had obviously

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had thought that that round belonged to Gardova. So on

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the official card it's nine to nine. You know, it's

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a ten point must system, so it's ten nine. Then

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you deduct the one point for the foul, and then

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the other judge did give it a ten a round.

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But in the end it turned out to be a draw,

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so bad fight, and uh, you've.

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Speaker 1: Already given it probably more than it deserved, and you

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don't ever want to talk about it again.

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Speaker 2: I can tell, but I think there I don't like

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Cordova has always sort of been like that, and a

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couple of fights of his. I've seen Rivera, who I've

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watched you used to be with Mattroom Boxing when he

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turned pro and tell his contract right now and they

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didn't renew their deals. I feel like he's a more entertaining,

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crowd pleasing fighter, that he could make some good fights

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in the flyweight division. You just got to have him

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in with the right guy. So we'll see him again.

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I'm sure he's still still I would consider so a

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legit guy to take a look at. Now he's only

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got eight pro fights. He's now seven oh to one.

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Cordova is nineteen oh to two. But other than fighting

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Rivera and having a fight against in Julio Caesar Martinez

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in a fight that ended up that was a loss

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that he came a no contest because Martinez tested positive

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for a banned substance, those are the only two guys

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of merit that he's ever faced in those twenty some fights.

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That was a world title fight. But I'd be happy

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to watch rivera fight again. Just let's put him in

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with the right guy.

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Speaker 1: All right. So that leads us to the much more

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intriguing interim WBA your middleweight title fight where a Boss

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Baru ends up winning over Joannis Tellus. And it was

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a dramatic final round, including a knockdown in the final

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seconds too. Great final round of this fight, all right,

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So for everything that was bad about the final fight,

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this one actually delivered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It wasn't just about that final round. That final

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round was just sort of the cherry on top. It

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was a tremendous fight. I don't think it's gonna get

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picked as the actual fight of the year, but it

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will be me the honorable mention lists and people will

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talk about it. This was a really outstanding fight, really

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enjoyable battle. Totally liked it. It's one of the things

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I like about boxing. It's like the fight starts off

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at a certain pace and it builds and it builds,

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and it's a twelve run fight. So okay, so they're

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not at war in round one or round two round here,

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but it's a steady, steady burn you know what I mean,

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it goes from a slow burn to a bonfire. That's

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what this was like. So by the time they got

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into the later rounds, was just back and forth and

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you know, lots of lots of flurries and exchanges and

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you know, toe to toe action, but also good boxing.

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These are both skillful fighters. You know. Berreu was a

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tremendous amateur. Uh he was on the uh you know,

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he's the former European champion, but he never made the Olympics.

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But he's got a ton of background and had, you know,

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many more professional fights than Tayas did. They As was

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considered the favorite. It was on his you know, team's card,

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if you will, a guy I was very high on.

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And it's not like he didn't fight. He didn't fight

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a bad fight, but he just was he He wasn't

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as big of a puncher in this fight as we've

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seen him in other fights, and and Brew was definitely

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getting to him a bit. He just didn't seem to

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have that type of punching power that he had shown

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in other fights that kind of carried him late in fights.

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they got to the middle of the fight was sort

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of like a step ahead of him every single time.

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really worth watching.

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Speaker 1: And we say because again I did not see the

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whole fight. I've seen the highlights. I've read your ret

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cap that maybe this is a case where Tay has

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stepped up in competition. He's in there with a real

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guy that can take his punch, and now you get

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tested and this is what happens when you all the time.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that I feel like this

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is the this is the classic example of too much,

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too soon. He was only his eleventh pro fight and

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that that's you know, not a lot. I mean, even

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though he was a good amateur. Also, you know, his

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big claim to fame was in his most recent fight

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when he won this interim vacant title. He did so

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against Julian j Rock Williams, you know, of a credible professional,

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had been the former unified champion, but had seen better days,

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not as fresh as Berrew, not as slick as Berrew,

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not as dangerous as he is again in their current state.

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And so you know, guys like to rush guys now,

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and it just if I'm the matchmaker no way do

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I make this caliber of a fight right off the bat. Now,

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he didn't have a choice in the terms of fighting

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Berw because you know, he was actually a mandatory fight

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within the BBA that they forced it to happen. So,

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you know, but you got to take the good with

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the bet. If you're going to go get a title,

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you're gonna have to be prepared to fight your mandatory opponents.

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So you know, Tez probably could have used a little

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bit more professional seasoning. I'm also still at a loss

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as to why he changed trainers. I'm not going to

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place the blame on his trainer, Edward Jackson, but everything

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was beautiful for the first ten fights. He looked tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you said it in the preview three days ago.

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You said Ronnie Shields was basically blindsided by this, and

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you said, you know this does I'm paraphrasing. You said,

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this doesn't always work out when you do this, and

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it obviously didn't work out here. It's not the only reason,

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but it didn't work out here.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not gonna knock Edward Jackson, but

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I'll go to battle with Ronnie Shields, who I feel

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has been one of the best trainers in boxing for

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the better part of twenty five to thirty years. You know,

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he's a great boxing person, he's a great guy. He

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knows a shit and his track record speaks for itself.

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Edward Jackson, at least at this moment, doesn't have that

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type of track work. And again it's not saying he

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won't have it in the future. Now, maybe something happened

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between Ronnie and Taez and I'm not aware of It

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didn't seem like that because wh I asked hez as

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people they were sort of blindsided by it also, But

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in any event, hell of a fight. And then we

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get to the twelfth round where although at the end

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of the fight the scores were clear for Berw one

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seventeen one ten one, sixteen, one eleven one, fifteen, one twelve,

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if you look at the score cards, it was awfully close,

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and you know, through the first half of the fight

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it was on the table. Uh, the score cards had

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burrew pulling away a little bit in the second half,

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but I felt like there's still a reasonable chance that

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maybe the I mean, I thought Berw won the fight.

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I had him winning, but I felt like there it

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would be out of the realm given the kind of

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crazy scoring we see sometimes that maybe the fight still

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on the table when you get the round twelve. And

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these guys both fought like it like it wasn't like

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one guy was looking to sit on a lead and

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another guy was looking a bomb a guy out. They

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both came out with a purpose in the twelfth round

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and made it very exciting. They were all over each other,

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tons of flurries, tons of you know, uh, the fierce

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type exchanges, and they're just going to battle. And I

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felt like tay As, though tired out a little bit

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in the last few rounds, he did find a little

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bit of that win in that twelfth round. But then

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you know, as they're as they're going to battle, twelve

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seconds left and Beru just unleashes like this crazy extended

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flurry and on the final punch that he threw of

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the fight, he lands a shot and puts Tayas on

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his rear end. And so now you're like, okay, this,

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if you didn't think he was gonna win the fight,

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this kind of should put the cherry on top and

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seal it up for him. Tayaz beat the count, but

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the fight was over. The bell rang before either a

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man could throw another punch, and that was just sort

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of like the dramatic conclusion to what had then a

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really superb fight. So and they were very you know,

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if you look at the copy box again it doesn't

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count towards the official scorecards, but how closely contested this

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fight was. After round seven, so you're just a little

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bit more than halfway through the fight, they had both

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landed exactly the same number of punches, one hundred and

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six and when they got to the end of the fight,

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they were only separated, you know, by a handful, by

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like nine punches or something like that overall for the fight.

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And if you take a look at the compy box

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notes on the fight, they were separated by four or

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four or less punches landed in eight out of the

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twelve rounds. So that tells you just a guide, oh,

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super very competitive and a good fight. And you know

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what the thing is. And I wrote about this in

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the pre fight. I wrote a story about Tayaz more

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than I did about Beru. That are, he is trying

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to put his name into the hat with all these

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other top notch names that are making big time fights

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in the weight class where we talked about on the

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preview where we've got Fundor getting ready to Rman, and

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they just made Virgil Ortiz against Eric sin Lubin and

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mere Boy mortazeleev is getting back an accent probably with

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Josh Kelly in the mandatory fight, and on and on

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and on, and you know, there's lots of good fights

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coming up, and even you know it may not be

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a great matchup, but you got the impending arrival of

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Boots Ennis into the weight class, and you know there's

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a lot of guys in this weight class that are

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active and getting involved. Xanders Ayas just recently won a title.

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He was actually at the fight because he you know,

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he lives in Florida, so he was ringside. He got

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in the ring and took pictures with Beru, you know,

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in there afterwards. Not like it's the mandatory fighter anything,

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but maybe that's a possible fight. Anyway, The point is

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the winner of this fight in this case, who showed

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he's got skills, who shows he's got a chin, who

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shows he's got fire, who shows he's got some charisma,

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who's got some swagger? To a degree, he gave a

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great and emotional post fight interview like I can't wait

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to watch him again. Point I'm making is when you

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win a fight the way he won the fight, you

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automatically put yourself in position. Now he has the interim belt,

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so that obviously adds to that aspect of putting himself

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in a great position. But he just adds yet another

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name to what has already been over the last bit,

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one of the better weight classes, if not the very

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best weight class in boxing. So throw another name of that,

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you know, mix and ask these guys up and so

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he'll be back. And you know, and even though Taya

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has lost, like I said, he's ten and one now,

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I still love to see him fight again because he's entertaining,

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and hopefully, for this guy's sake, he will take some

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lessons from a loss against a competent, veteran, legitimate guy

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and learn from that that, you know, maybe it was

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too much too soon, and they'll get back to some

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of the basics and do a better job next time out.

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But I don't think that this ruins his career. So,

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as I say all the time, when you have a

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fight like this, both the guys are elevated. The winner

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elevated obviously brew and even in the loss where I

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think he definitely could have fought better. Tayas, though, is

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still a guy you want to see again. He's got

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something that makes him interesting to watch. He does have

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some something about him that makes you want to look

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at him again. He doesn't fight like the prototypical Cuban.

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You know, We've had plenty of examples where you guys

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are extremely well skilled and well schooled from that amateur

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system in Cuba, but when they get to the professional ranks,

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even though they're very talented and they win their fights,

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they're just not entertaining to watch, and it causes a

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lot of you know, angst among people like myself that

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you know, don't want to see a guy just put

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a shin out there, but like to see him take

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a step forward and maybe mixed up a little bit,

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just make it somewhat entertaining. But because Tayas came away

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from Cuba at such a young age it's only twenty five,

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he was not indoctrinated in the Cuban system for so

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many years where he was unable to maybe change up

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to become more of a professional fighter instead of sticking

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to that old Cubans style. So, you know, let's see

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them both again that we'll see a rematch. That doesn't

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make sense, it doesn't seem to me, but both of

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them can do something. But Buru you want to see

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again in a big time fight. Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's round out the card here that included

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Lucas Body. We know that name because he's the guy

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that scored the spectacular knockout of Ashton sylv back a

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year ago. He's won a fight or two since then.

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How did he look in his lightweight bout? And also

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the junior lightweight Jamal Harvey made his debut back on

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Friday night? So what else from the weekend in Orlando

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for MVP?

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Speaker 2: So body, you know, people know him probably if they

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know him at all, they know him because he scored

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that knockout of the year that was picked by pretty

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much everybody in twenty twenty four when he when he

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lost every single round against Ashton Silv who was an

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undefeated prospect at the time, and then he came back

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and he knocked him absolutely into the next month, you know,

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with one big punch and scored a spectacular knockout. He

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recently re signed a promotional you know, promotional contract with

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MVP with them and he just signed a new contract

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with them, and so this was the first fight of

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that agreement. So he's in a title eliminator in the

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WBA for the mandatory position. So then by winning this

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fight against Roger Gutiers, he's now the Tank Davis mandatory

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and I don't We're not gonna see that fight right

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away for obvious reasons. But body looked pretty good in

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this fight. You know, he won the fight handily. He

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was you know, he he obviously has big punching power.

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He showed it against silv he scored. He showed it

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a little bit against Gutierrez. He scored a very nice,

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uh six round knockdown. That was a very clean, clean knockdown.

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He just sort of ran out of time in the

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round because the knockdown came right at the end of

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the round. And you know he's talking about in this

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post fight interview, if I just had a few more seconds,

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I maybe get another punch off, Maybe it couldn't stop

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Qutier's Kutier is a very solid veteran former one hundred

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and thirty pounds title holder, tough out for pretty much

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anybody that faces him, has a good punching power in

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his own right and body did a good job. He

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showed the power when he needed to, even if he

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didn't get the knockout, but he also showed boxing skills.

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He wins, you know, pretty handily. One seventeen, one ten,

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one sixteen, one eleven, one fifteen, one twelve. Like I said,

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it gets to knock down and by winning the fight

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becomes the Tank Davis mandatory. And the funniest thing was

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in his interview. So Jake Paul obviously is from MVP

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as he's promoter, and Jake was ring excited. Now we's

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standing in the ring with him after the fight, I

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guess and he says, look, you know, I'm after They

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asked him, like, you know, what do you want to

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do next? Every fighter says I want to fight for

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the title. He says, you know, I'm after the champion.

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Jake's fighting him, meaning Jake's got the exhibition match coming

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up with Tank Davis. So he says to Jake, he says, Jake,

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I want the champ. You know, don't beat him up

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too bad. I still want him also, you know, so

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there was that was so he's kind of competing with

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his own promoter in one sense to get the shot

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at this at this fighter. Now, obviously Jake's not fighting

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him for a title, but Tank theoretically will be the

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next guy when it comes time to do him in

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or whether that fight actually happens, who the heck knows,

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But at the very least, Lucas body is in position

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to fight for a title. And you know he's really,

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you know, he's he's he is earned his position. He's

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done what he's got to do. He's beating the right guys.

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He's gotten a good push from the MVP. He makes

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a pretty good fight. He showed some better boxing skills

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and I sort of gave him credit for in this fight.

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And you know, it's the biggest win of his career.

477
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,720
I mean, the So fight was probably the biggest win

478
00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,039
because of what it did for his name was.

479
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,079
Speaker 1: Some of the most noteworthy moment. But the difference is

480
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,960
this is a bigger win.

481
00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:19,799
Speaker 2: But other than the knockout against So, the rest of

482
00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:21,839
the fight he looked bad. He was getting played with

483
00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:25,720
in this fight against a good veteran former champion, he

484
00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:27,599
actually looked pretty good. He did a good job in

485
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,759
terms of boxing as well as dispensing his punching power

486
00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,400
when necessary. So I think all in all, this was

487
00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:36,319
this was an entertaining card. I enjoyed it. There was

488
00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:38,759
other fights on the show. Also, you mentioned about the

489
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,000
Jamal Harvey. So what MVP did was this was considered

490
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,079
like their first fight night show where they put on

491
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,440
world title fights and other name fighters, et cetera. And

492
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,119
they've been doing a series of their prospect shows, so

493
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,160
they did sort of like a two for one, like

494
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,960
they had two shows in the same Curb royalitiesort in Orlando,

495
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,200
this one on Saturday night than the previous night on

496
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,480
Friday night. But the one that I was more interested

497
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,079
in from the Friday night was the professional debut of

498
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,799
the junior lightweight Jamal Harvey, who had been the twenty

499
00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:10,119
twenty four US Olympian, who was considered by many people

500
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,039
along it was him and Amari Jones were the two

501
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,160
big prospects or not, you know, they're all prospects, I guess,

502
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,160
but the one that was the most promising among the

503
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,839
professionals that you would see come into the pro ranks.

504
00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:26,559
So when I'm looking at the team, I'm thinking, like,

505
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:28,359
who are the guys I think are going to be

506
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,359
the best pros off the team, And for me, I

507
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,880
thought Amari Jones number one, and he signed with matrim

508
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,079
and has looked really good in his early days as

509
00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:39,640
a pro, fighting in slightly over the welterweight limit. Very

510
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,640
talented fighter. But the guy that I thought was number

511
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,720
two on my list was Jamal Harvey, and he did

512
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,279
what he had to do. He made his pro debut,

513
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,039
and you know, look, we all know about pro debuts.

514
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,319
Unless it's a freakish thing like what happened with Robeses Ramirez,

515
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:54,759
you pretty much get served up. You know, an easy opponent,

516
00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,960
you shine, you do your thing, and you get a

517
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,480
couple bucks and you move on to the next one.

518
00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:00,680
Try to get some pro experience. And that's exactly what

519
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,640
happened with Harvey. He fought a guy that was nothing

520
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,960
in particular. Look Marco del Aguila. He took it to

521
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,839
him in the first round. Looked sharp with his punches.

522
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000
It was funny. He was a lot shorter than the opponent,

523
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:14,359
but his reach was a lot longer, so I was

524
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,279
able to get in there with his long left hands,

525
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,279
but also get jabs on him and get on the inside.

526
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:20,519
And so for three minutes, it took him like a

527
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,200
minute to sort of feel things out see what he's

528
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,680
gotten in front of him. Then he went to work

529
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,559
and he landed a whole bunch of punches, never really

530
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,559
seemed to really badly hurt the guy, but certainly was

531
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:29,880
landing clean shots. And when the first round was over,

532
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,200
he retired on the stool and he scheduled six rounders.

533
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,880
So Harvey had a lot of fans there, which was

534
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,720
kind of neat to see because he doesn't come from

535
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,039
that area. The fight was in Orlando. He actually comes

536
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,119
from my neck of the woods. He's from oxen Hill, Maryland.

537
00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:45,559
That's the town that's maybe twenty minutes away from where

538
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,200
I live, right over the border from Virginia into Maryland.

539
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,200
And you know, I'll be looking forward to watching his progress.

540
00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:54,599
I love to watch when the young amateurs come into

541
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,720
the pros. It always gives me a sense of like

542
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,960
a rebirth, kind of like springtime when the flowers blue

543
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,920
and all where the trees, uh you know, turned green

544
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,480
and all the snow was gone. You wouldn't know about

545
00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:07,079
that living in Florida. But that's why I feel like

546
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:09,680
when I watch a Jamal Hervey turnpro. Wh when I

547
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,599
watched the you know, the the fights with like Amari

548
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680
Jones as they come along and move up the ranks.

549
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:18,200
So Harvey looks like he is. He's got fast hands,

550
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:21,720
and I feel like he's got good power and so

551
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:24,079
as he said, it's a good start to the journey.

552
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,599
Speaker 1: All right, So there is the recappage of the weekend.

553
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,559
Now let's move to some interesting news and nuggets. We're

554
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,839
gonna talk a lot in the coming weeks about the

555
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:40,200
Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford fight. And an interesting little subplot

556
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:44,680
has developed with Canelo and him putting up a photo

557
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:49,680
on social media right about his sparring partner and surprise

558
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:51,680
surprise on who the sparring partner is.

559
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: Well, he has brought in and it was a surprise

560
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,799
he has brought in Jeron Boutsenis to his training camp.

561
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,400
And that that that's like causing like a lot. That's like,

562
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,240
you know, what does the old saying breaking Twitter? I guess,

563
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,279
I mean there's a lot of boxing, like, oh my goodness, now,

564
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:07,759
look he's a welterweight that's moving up to jingior middleweight.

565
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,440
Terrence Crawford's most recent weight class was junior middleweight, where

566
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,559
you know he won one of the belts. Actually It's funny.

567
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,440
He's the WBA champion and the belt that that that

568
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,839
uh Boots will position himself to go for if he

569
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,480
wins his upcoming fight with Lima. This is a WBA

570
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:28,000
title eliminator in that weight class. You know anyway, But

571
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,519
when when I see it, a Canelo Alvarez brings in

572
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,880
a Boots Ennis bring with him, He's not any old

573
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,920
sparring partner. Boots Tennis is a championship fighter. I'm sure

574
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,279
he's being paid very well to come and give him work.

575
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:41,799
And by the way, if you're Bootsennis, it's never a

576
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:43,559
bad thing if you can get work from a Canelo Alvarez.

577
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480
Is you want to handle yourself against a bigger opponent,

578
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:48,519
like as you're gonna be fighting junior middleweights, and here

579
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,680
you are in the ring, sparring with a super middleweight,

580
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,640
obviously not going all out on each other. But what

581
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:58,279
it tells me is Canelo Alvarez understands that just because

582
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,559
Terrence Crawford is a fighter who started his career as

583
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,039
a lightweight and is now coming up two additional weight

584
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,839
classes over junior middleweight to challenge him in the super

585
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,240
middleweight division, that I'm taking this super seriously, I need

586
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,440
real guys to press me and who can simulate Terrence.

587
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480
And it is about the same size as Crawford, you know.

588
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,720
Now I'll have to get I assume he'll get Boots

589
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,799
to maybe turn around and fight him southpaw to some degree,

590
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,279
you know, because even though Crawford is often listed as

591
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:32,000
a right hander, he is in fact most of the

592
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,039
time when he fights, he fights as a southpaw. But

593
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,599
he also can switch up, which is another reason why

594
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,480
he's been so successful, because he drives guys crazy. Boots

595
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:42,000
is as a right handed fighter, but they'll get him

596
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,079
to switch up, but they're looking to simulate the speed

597
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,359
they're looking to simulate, you know, the approximate size. Boots

598
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,839
is known at welterweight anyway for having good punching power,

599
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,839
and he can give him good work, it seems to me.

600
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,079
So that was a really interesting turn of events. As

601
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,720
you said, it means to me that Canelo knows that

602
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,160
Terrence Crawford is a danger supponent. This is not just

603
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,000
I'm going to walk through this small guy.

604
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: Very interesting that that name did pop up all right now. Also,

605
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,759
the Nevada State Athletic Commission has announced the referee and

606
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:16,400
the judges for this fight. So pick it up on that,

607
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,279
on on what they chose at their meeting and what

608
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:19,799
they're gonna do.

609
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: Right, So, every month they have a meeting. It was

610
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,759
on this past Thursday they did that. This was on

611
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:27,480
the agenda where they select the officials for this title fight.

612
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:31,119
And so honestly, if you said to me before they

613
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,599
made the elections and you said, Dan, what would you

614
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:36,599
think as far as who's going to be the ref

615
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,920
and who's going to be the judging Kendle as gods

616
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,279
might winness, I would have picked this exact four people,

617
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:45,319
one hundred percent. The referee is Thomas Taylor, for me,

618
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,640
the best referee in boxing right now? Are we anywhere

619
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,000
you go? He's a tremendous referee. He'll do a you know,

620
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,400
a great job. I think he's just you know, there

621
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,319
always comes a time like for many years it was

622
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,799
a Kenny Baylisser at Tony Weeks, and you know, they're

623
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:01,920
they're guys that go through their period of time.

624
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Jack Race recently, Jack Race, right with whoever.

625
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: You want to pick, and there's lots of guys that

626
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,839
are that qualify as being top notch officials but right now,

627
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,079
Thomas Taylor is like showing you the prime and that's

628
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:16,839
why he catches these big assignments. I mean years ago

629
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440
was Richard Steele. We can go on and on, but

630
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:20,880
Thomas Taylor his case.

631
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,039
Speaker 1: To brag on him, I think he is not only

632
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,200
at first, he's younger, so that helps.

633
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Number two, he's very engaged in any fight that he's doing.

635
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,920
He's very engaged and active in breaking the fighters, warning

636
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,079
the fighters, being consistent, coming over to the corner and

637
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,400
telling them stop doing this, coming over to check on

638
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,839
them if they're beaten up. And he's worked a number

639
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
of the premier he worked at Javonte Davis, Ryan Garcia,

640
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,559
he worked the Crawford Eryl Spence main event in Vegas.

641
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 2: So he just worked Uh, he just did the Pacquiao.

642
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Barrio Barrios.

643
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,319
Speaker 2: Yes, that's funny actually because all four of the officials,

644
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:03,039
the judges I'm about to mention, and the referee are

645
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,319
the same exact four that worked the Barrios and Packing fight. Now,

646
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:07,680
that may be a good thing for some or a

647
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240
bad thing, because like I thought that that Paca was

648
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,119
the clear winner against Barrios, these guys sported a draw

649
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,240
or you know, a majority drew in an event. But anyway,

650
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,680
the judges for this fight again and not in any

651
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,640
way at all a surprise. Steve Weissfeld, who, like Thomas

652
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,279
Taylor being the number one referee in boxing, I have

653
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,160
long considered the number one judge in boxing. I don't

654
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
think that's you know, anything controversial. And then the other

655
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,480
two judges they selected are Tim Cheatham and Max to

656
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,400
Luca who have you know and every judge you know,

657
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,119
when I posted on social media that these were the

658
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,039
judges that were selected, you know, we're like, wow, these

659
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,000
guys are this, they're that, and they cite like a

660
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,480
bad card or are they disagreed with or whatever, and

661
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:49,880
I'm like, guys, these guys judge hundreds dozens of championship

662
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,200
level fights as well as other non championship fights where

663
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
they're doing you know, the eight rounders and the six

664
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,559
rounders and ten rounders and whatnot. They're gonna have someone

665
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:00,440
that you don't agree with. Okay, that's sign, but that

666
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,799
still doesn't mean they're not elite judges. And all three

667
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,160
of these guys are in that category. Now, are there

668
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920
cards that they've turned in that I personally definitely And

669
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,599
vigorously would disagree with absolutely, but what I know, and

670
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,759
again I'm not like friends with them, but I met

671
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,680
and know each of them individually on a someone not

672
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,160
personal likely hang out, but I've had conversations with them

673
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,359
and see them at fights and talk them at fights.

674
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:27,319
Same goes with Tom Taylor. These are honest, hardworking judges

675
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,720
and referees who are do come to the party to

676
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,960
do their job and that that's all you can ask for.

677
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,559
So this is as good of a panel on paper

678
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680
that they could have probably picked. And that's what it is.

679
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,599
And by the way, I always find this interesting when

680
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:43,440
they do because these are all public things. When they

681
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,559
announce the assignments, you can listen in on their conference

682
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,839
call where you can ask the commission. You know, if

683
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,519
you don't get a chance to listen in, you know

684
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:53,599
what the assignments were that were made for these fights.

685
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,680
They also have what the fees are, so people always

686
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,240
find this fascinating. Thomas Taylor is the referee that for

687
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,759
this fight. His his pay for the fight is twenty

688
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,480
five thousand dollars.

689
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: And which see it seems on the surface it should

690
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,559
be more than that fight.

691
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,119
Speaker 2: It's like a million, hundred million dollars. Yeah, and the

692
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,680
judges get twenty grand apiece.

693
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: And granted they're not taking any of the punches. They're

694
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
not giving or taking any of the punches. We get that,

695
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,079
but it seems like it should be more than that.

696
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,319
But then again, I was talking to somebody about this,

697
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960
and I believe that it is the case that most

698
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,279
of the NFL officials, that's the elite of the elite,

699
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480
not the head referee, but most of the officials, they're

700
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,640
making like fifteen grand on a weekend, ten or fifteen grand.

701
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,599
It's not like they're making one hundred grand or you know,

702
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:35,279
one hundred dollies.

703
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Should be somewhere in between that, don't you think for

704
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,480
the amount of you know, with city that is focused

705
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,599
on them and pressure you pay them for their trouble.

706
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,559
Speaker 1: Aren't well? Right, But it's just it's interesting that they

707
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,599
reveal that that that's what these guys are getting compensated

708
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:51,759
for this, and I'm ill.

709
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 2: It's even more money than what's in the boxing match.

710
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,279
I mean dollars going.

711
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,599
Speaker 1: To the players. It's going to the players. So all right,

712
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,359
So very one other speak of money. One other interesting

713
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,880
aspect of this. There there is a another substacker who

714
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,799
put this out, who follows UNLV football, and he is

715
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,039
the first one. I think he may have beat my

716
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,119
man Rayfield on everybody else. He's the first one to

717
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,119
write the number.

718
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: I looked for the number, all right.

719
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: But TKO Promotions had to work out an agreement with

720
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:24,440
the University of Nevada Las Vegas on UNLV having the

721
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,559
date already for Allegiance Stadium September thirteenth, so they worked

722
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:34,359
out an agreement to buy them out of that football

723
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,960
game on that date. And according to the I'm gonna

724
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,079
get the name of the of the substack so that

725
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,519
we can give them proper credit here, it was one

726
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:53,759
point five million dollars for the payout that that TKO

727
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,559
Promotions gave to UNLV. And also in that deal, this

728
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,279
was interesting as well that they included a suite at

729
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:06,799
Allegiant Stadium and one hundred tickets to the fight, which

730
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,400
obviously the school will utilize for donors, heavy hitters, sponsors,

731
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,519
et cetera. So that was interesting that that's the price.

732
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,480
The rumor had been out there that it was maybe

733
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:23,599
as much as a five million dollar buyout buy TKO,

734
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,079
But generally speaking, I know this when they're putting on

735
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,119
a big time event at one of these stadiums. It's

736
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,599
usually a million or a couple of million dollars, so

737
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,480
UNLV needed to be made whole. If they're moving off

738
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
that event, they probably got to pay a penalty to

739
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,039
the Clark County officials under the Raiders who own the

740
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,119
stadium to get out of the deal. TKO then comes

741
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,559
in and pays them to get into the deal. And

742
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,839
now UNLV actually played the football game this past Saturday.

743
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,240
They played Idaho State on set.

744
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,759
Speaker 2: They moved they moved it up a couple of weeks,

745
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,559
which is interesting about it. I'm not sure if it

746
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,319
was in that same article you reference or I just

747
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:01,000
saw it elsewhere. Was that the UNL the athletic department

748
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,799
is like twenty some million dollars big time, like twenty

749
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:05,839
seven million dollars in debt, So you get an extra

750
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,119
million five or whatever the number was, and they can

751
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,679
put it towards some of their debt. That's a pretty

752
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,960
nice windfall, I guess.

753
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,599
Speaker 1: So the name of the the sub stack, so that

754
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,239
we have this uh correct, I want to make sure

755
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,800
on the proper name is the scarlet standard. He follows

756
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,440
you in LV football and he knows. So it's interesting

757
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,960
that that's what they ended up paying out and doing.

758
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,480
And do we know as of yet what they believe

759
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,400
the capacity will be. I mean, I gotta believe it's

760
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,639
north of sixty thousand, if not of north of seventy

761
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,599
thousand tickets that they're going to try to sell.

762
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: I've always seen like for the I don't know if

763
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480
this is exact, but when I've seen like The Raiders,

764
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,039
or you look at that if you look it up

765
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,480
on Google or Wikipedia or whatever, they list the capacity

766
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800
for a ball game is like sixty five thousand, but

767
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,519
you can fit way more than that for a boxing

768
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,920
match because when you're doing a football game, you're utilizing

769
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:59,480
the field of play. When you don't have to put

770
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,280
in one hundred yard area for the football game to

771
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,119
take place, and you're putting the ring in, you can

772
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:06,639
fill up obviously those areas around the ring with spectators,

773
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:08,440
so I would have to believe that you can put

774
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,760
in probably close to seventy thousand. Now what they actually

775
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,760
scaled for I'm not sure. Well, there's still lots of

776
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,559
tickets available. Obviously, the fight still not for three more weeks,

777
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,920
so we'll see how that plays out. But I suspect

778
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,159
whatever it is, whether they're all buying them, or some

779
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,280
are discounted, or some are giving away, whatever it is,

780
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,360
at the end of the day, there'll be a ton

781
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,360
of people at that fight. It's a huge event and

782
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,320
it's a very fascinating historical fight.

783
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, some heavyweights to close it out.

784
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,039
What is this on my rundown that ike Abayabuci, who

785
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,519
is fifty two years old, who was in prison for

786
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,440
a long time, former heavyweight contender from the late nineties

787
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,960
in the early two thousands, is still fighting and was

788
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,119
fighting this weekend. Am I correct?

789
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,599
Speaker 2: You are correct? I mean it's the craziest thing. So

790
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,639
a few months ago there had been some word that

791
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:55,199
he was going to come back and fight. Well, just

792
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,559
to back up a minute, in the late nineteen nineties,

793
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,840
iky Beyabuchi was considered a future heavyweight champion by a

794
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,599
lot of people. He had absolutely destroyed Chris Bird, who was,

795
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,760
you know, a top fighter, but a slick fighter, whereas

796
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,079
I'd be able to was this a sheer you know,

797
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,639
just big time punching machine. He scored an absolutely sensational

798
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,079
knockout against Chris Bird on HBO. Chris was like, you know,

799
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,199
if you ever saw you'll know what I'm talking about.

800
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,079
Like he got up and the drool was like coming

801
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:26,159
out of his out of his mouth. That turned out

802
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,000
to be his last fight until the one he had

803
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,840
the other night before he defeated Chris Bird. He also

804
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,719
had what I think you can very reasonably discuss, maybe

805
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,679
besides the first Evander Holyfield Mike Tyson fight, but his

806
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,159
fight in nineteen ninety seven, also on HBO against David

807
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,599
Tua at a time when David Tua was twenty seven

808
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:48,960
and oh, this is before David got the opportunity to

809
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,119
fight Lennox Lewis for the heavyweight championship. This is the

810
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,480
best fight of the nineties in the heavyweight division, other

811
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:59,000
than maybe that Tyson holy Field, and obviously maybe Tyson

812
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,599
versus Buster Douglas. You know in there that was the

813
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:03,320
eighties or ninetees.

814
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: When was that Tyson and Douglas was February of ninety yes, okay,

815
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,920
so yeah, holy Field bow one was tremendous. Holy Field

816
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,559
Tyson was tremendous. But you're saying this fight also.

817
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: This this goes in the conversation of the best heavyweight

818
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,400
fights of the decade. I mean, just an all action

819
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:21,039
battle and he and I always thought that Tua won

820
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,079
the fight, but it was a very close decision, and

821
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:26,119
I got the decision. Okay, So he fights so that

822
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,920
then he wins that fight against Tua, he wins, you know,

823
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,159
a couple of like lesser fights where he's staying busy

824
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,159
against his regular jamoke type opponents. Then he comes back

825
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,119
on HBO. This is March of nineteen ninety nine. He

826
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,639
scores a devastating knockout against the undefeated Chris Bird, who

827
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:43,639
would go on to become a two time heavyweight champion.

828
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,239
And when Ibebuci now has a win against the big

829
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,880
punching Tua and the slick southpaw Chris Bird, he's being

830
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:56,480
both opposite styles. He's done it in devastating or exciting fashion.

831
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:59,320
And this guy has looked at as the future of

832
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,440
the heavyweight division and he's being featured on HBO. And

833
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
then because he's a knucklehead and he had a lot

834
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,400
of problems mentally and this and that, he got arrested

835
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,079
for some sexual assault situation. He wound up in prison,

836
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,960
he was deported. I mean, it was a whole saga

837
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,079
there was talk of comebacks. There was talk of this,

838
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,280
but the bottom line is it never came to fruition.

839
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,679
And he got out of prison a while back and

840
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,480
he hadn't fought, but there was a lot of discussions

841
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:25,719
in recent months he would fight. It didn't come off.

842
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,840
Now they announced he's going to fight again. Now. He's

843
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,159
from Nigeria, although he had lived for many years in Dallas, Texas.

844
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,840
But he's back in Nigeria apparently because he was deported.

845
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,440
And he did in fact fight a local fighter from

846
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,840
Nigeria on Saturday in Lagos, Nigeria and eighteen an eight

847
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000
and two fighter now named Idris a finny who I've

848
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:48,400
never heard of, who's forty years old, which makes him

849
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,440
a baby because Ikbuci is Iba Buci is now fifty

850
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,159
two years old.

851
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,679
Speaker 1: We had ninety two years a fighter in the ring

852
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,280
in Nigeria, by the way.

853
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,079
Speaker 2: So he ends up getting the stoppage. I guess the

854
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,840
opponent retired on the stool after the third round. And

855
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,599
I would be less than honest if I said I

856
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,599
saw this. I did see this. I read the result

857
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,280
because I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm a boxing

858
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400
dunk junkie and I'm a big boxing door, but I'm

859
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,360
not spending that. They were a s outfit that was

860
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,320
offering the fight from Nigeria for like thirty dollars on

861
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,119
a stream, and all I could picture is like, my

862
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,599
computer's gonna be infected. The unbelief of I do this.

863
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,639
Ain't getting any Nigerians my credit card, yeah for a

864
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,559
boxing stream, so you know I'll be getting like email

865
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:30,440
saying oh and by the way, you've also inherited a

866
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
billion dollars. I mean, so I did not pay for

867
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:34,639
the stream at thirty bucks.

868
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: He is apparently going to fight on This was not

869
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,840
just a gimmick once or twice, I guess by a Bayabuci.

870
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: What else is he gonna do. He's been in prison

871
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,880
on and off for decades, and you know, he came

872
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,639
back to the ring in fifty two and he'll go

873
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,960
down as one of those guys in boxing history, a

874
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,719
lah tony Ayala. But you just always wonder what if Ayala,

875
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920
of course had been in prison years and years and

876
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,920
years ago for also sexual assault and rape. Uh and

877
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,320
Uh ended up getting out of prison and you know,

878
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,760
restarting his career and actually won some fights and then

879
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,719
you know, lost and then ended up going back to

880
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,159
prison and died, not doubt, you know, a couple of

881
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,000
years ago. But you know, he had so much talent.

882
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,199
He was a big amateur Iba Butchi is another one

883
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,719
of these guys where you're just like, oh, what he came.

884
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: There's so many cases of this everywhere, and not just

885
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,239
in sports and society, of people that ruin their life,

886
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,119
that ruined their promise, their potential, their possibility, and ruined

887
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:27,519
their life.

888
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,679
Speaker 2: But I Beabchi had gotten to a position where he's

889
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,239
literally on the doorstep of becoming the heavyweight champion.

890
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: And he's an his life. Yeah, and threw it away.

891
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,920
Stupid all right, So, uh, at least Ike's fight came

892
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,880
off because the Jerrell Miller Big Baby Miller and uh

893
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,840
and Michael Hunter fight is now not gonna happen on

894
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,320
the undercard of Canelo Crawford. Well that is because Don

895
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,199
King got involved and said, uh, uh, I have a

896
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,559
contract with Michael Hunter and he's in a different knock

897
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,599
this off, So it was not.

898
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:04,639
Speaker 2: Going to be on the undercard. What it was gonna

899
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:09,280
be was the uh Tek Zufa Boxing and Turkey and

900
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,199
everybody was gonna put on another card earlier in the week,

901
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,079
oh as they lead into the big card on the thirteen.

902
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,239
So this was actually gonna be on September eleventh in Vegas,

903
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,920
and it was gonna take place at the Font and

904
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Blue Casino, and it was going to be a strange

905
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,079
on the zone and this was the main event of

906
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:26,719
whatever that event was going to be.

907
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,519
Speaker 1: The However, however, now it is.

908
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,559
Speaker 2: Right, So so Turkey had announced that, and so Don

909
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:35,440
King claimed to have a contract with Michael Hunter, and

910
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,960
he was sending seasoned assist letters to everybody and their

911
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,559
mother about this. And if you're if you're the Saudi's

912
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:43,039
and you're Dana White in that group, you're like, what

913
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:44,639
are we gonna do? We're gonna go to battle with

914
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,559
Don King over Michael Hunter. It's not lacking. So they

915
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,920
they said no thanks, so they canceled the fight. Now,

916
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:55,519
besides that, though King had won a purse bid to

917
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:59,440
do Kubrat Pulev, who's not his fighter, who's the BBA

918
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,960
regular title holder at heavyweight against Michael Hunter, who is

919
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,079
the mandatory This is a first bid that took place

920
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,000
back in May. King bid one point one million dollars.

921
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,159
He scheduled for a particular date that did not happen,

922
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:14,679
but then supposedly reschedule it to take place later in

923
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920
the fall, and you know, he says he's going to

924
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,000
put the show on. Meanwhile, the pool Lef people, rightly

925
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,159
so are protesting to the WBA saying no, no, no, no, no,

926
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,360
we are not because they didn't They were there at

927
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,840
the person fit, but they didn't offer a bid because

928
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,199
they knew that it was bs the way that it

929
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,199
was handled, because Michael Hunter should not have been eligible

930
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,000
to be in the fight in the first place, for

931
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,679
a variety of reason. We don't have to spend minutes

932
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,880
on the reasons why, but suffice that to say, they

933
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,199
went to arbitration and they made a settlement with Poolev,

934
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,079
and the WBA rescinded the pirst bid win. And so

935
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,639
they said, no, no, no worries. They signed a settlement

936
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,360
agreement with Poolev, and they've now made it where Poolev

937
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,679
is entitled to make an optional defense against anybody in

938
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,360
the WBA's top fifteen. You want to do the optional

939
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,280
defense of what the regular title TJ.

940
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I keep I keep saying to you, this is all crapola.

941
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,199
Speaker 2: Okay, But I'm just talking about the fact.

942
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, but you keep legitimizing you, you

943
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,920
keep legitimizing the w b A by talking about optional

944
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,199
defense of whatever. This is where a lot of fans

945
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,840
want me to say, what are we doing here? Stop

946
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:33,920
talking about the WBA's interim garbage whatever. I'm giving oxygen enough.

947
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm explaining to you why this particular fight is not happening.

948
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,039
And that's actual.

949
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: You're saying to me that the WBA is saying to

950
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,920
Poolev he doesn't have to fight Michael Hunter because of

951
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,599
an optional whatever, and I'm saying to you, no one

952
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,480
cares about that anymore. No one cares. He's not the champion.

953
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:51,480
No one cares.

954
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: I am simply reporting what occurred, but the punchline, which

955
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,239
he didn't let me get to get to your punchline.

956
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,719
King said out a pressure. So the people are like,

957
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,280
you know, don go fuck yourself, Michael Hunter, go fuck yourself.

958
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,920
We're gonna go make a fight for Poolev to defend

959
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,079
his regular belt against anybody in the top fifteen as

960
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,679
part of our settlement with the WBA. And then King

961
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,920
literally yesterday sends out a pressley saying no, no, no,

962
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,920
the fight's still on. We're still doing Poolev against Hunter,

963
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,360
which is the most preposterous thing because Pool IV ain't

964
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,360
showing up and Hunter ain't showing up.

965
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: So it's so other than the fact that neither fighter

966
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,840
will come to have the fight. Don is looking forward

967
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,199
to promoting Poolev Hunter. That's your punchline.

968
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,079
Speaker 2: That's the punch line.

969
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: And Don turned ninety four years old by the two

970
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,679
days recently, and I'm not I'm not trying to be.

971
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: More as Ken Tankers as ever, but I'm not.

972
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Trying to be morbid here, but sooner or later, I mean, Don,

973
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,320
Bob Aram is ninety three. We're going on and on.

974
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,320
These guys were promoting fights in the seventies and the eighties.

975
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,039
It is it is beyond.

976
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,639
Speaker 2: BacT that Don at ninety four is still so litigious

977
00:44:56,679 --> 00:45:00,519
for no reason. It's like the guys literally, he's probably

978
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,880
made a billion dollars or so. Just Joe relaxed. Now.

979
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,039
Bob is cantankerous and can be also, But Bob is

980
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,039
much more chill than Don is. I mean, I know

981
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:13,400
both of these guys for decades, and you can have

982
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,360
a normal, chill, relaxed conversation with Aaron. I mean, I've

983
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,679
had one thousand conversations with King, And even when King.

984
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: You talked to him fairly recently, didn't you earlier this year?

985
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 2: Right talked to him every now and again. But even

986
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:29,360
when Don is not like with the lights on, he's

987
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,320
still at one hundred miles an hour. It's like, Don, relaxed,

988
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,559
Can we have a normal conversation. I can have a

989
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,199
normal conversation with Aaron, I've done it a million times.

990
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:38,719
But Don, it's like.

991
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: In right, So the Hunter fight is not happening with Miller,

992
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:46,440
and it's apparently not happening with Poulev and who knows

993
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,679
whatever happens with Michael Hunter, who had some promise at

994
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,719
one point, but it's never gone anywhere for the last

995
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,639
three or four years. And there's one more note, a

996
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:56,920
retirement real quick. You did make brief mention of that

997
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,000
on our last podcast. It's now official that Hector Lewie

998
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,400
east garcia Is is hanging him up, or at least

999
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,679
so he says, for now. Because somebody apparently has ever

1000
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,480
retired c II kabeya Bucci, nobody's apparently ever retired.

1001
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean Hector Luis Garciat himself a pretty

1002
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400
decent career. He wasn't Olympian in twenty sixteen, first home

1003
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,960
country of the Dominican Republic. He did go on to

1004
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:20,840
win a one hundred and thirty pound title. His only

1005
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,159
two losses, of course, came in back to back fights

1006
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:27,079
against his most known opponents. You know, he lost, you

1007
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,920
know when he he he won the title, and then

1008
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,159
he moved up in wait immediately without defending, and he

1009
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,599
got stopped by Tank Davis and a fight that actually

1010
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,559
took place here in the Washington s area at the

1011
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,000
beginning of twenty twenty three. And then and when he

1012
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,760
lost the title, he lost to to Lamont Roach in

1013
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,360
a close decision where it was really he was a

1014
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,320
knockdown in the in the final round that that prevented

1015
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,079
that from being a draw instead of a win. And

1016
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,840
so he goes out in an and fought for a while,

1017
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,480
so you know, it's not like he had been around,

1018
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,360
you know, where he like a guy that they've just

1019
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,119
fought and announced as a retirement. So that Davis fight

1020
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,920
was in January twenty three. He fought Broach. At the

1021
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,039
end of twenty twenty three, he did not fight at

1022
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:11,840
all in twenty twenty four, and now here as we

1023
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,559
go in into the late part of two thousand and

1024
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,360
twenty five, he announces his retirement. So you know, good

1025
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,000
luck to him. You know, not going to be in

1026
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:20,800
Hall of Fame, but you know, got himself a title,

1027
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
and I you know, fought in a couple of more

1028
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,800
notable fights against Roach and then against Tank Davis and

1029
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,599
was an Olympian. And you know, hopefully he enjoys his career.

1030
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,199
I'm not. I don't can't say he made you know,

1031
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,679
huge amounts of money, only had eighteen pro fights, finishes

1032
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,800
up sixteen and two, and that's that's the news of

1033
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,079
the week.

1034
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 1: If he is in fact done for good, he's good

1035
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:43,039
for me. He says he's done now.

1036
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: But Miamisia, when guys retire, I take him at their word,

1037
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,599
and if they change their mind, so be it. I'll

1038
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:47,960
tell you what I.

1039
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: Only speel when guys are fairly young and they announced

1040
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,480
they're not fighting anymore, I don't take them at their word.

1041
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: Just too well, I was gonna say, I take them

1042
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,360
at the word except for Tyson Furry.

1043
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: Another classic example. Other than that, I think we are

1044
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,400
good here on this edition, as we recap the MVP card.

1045
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,000
We gave you plenty of news again. We're headed to

1046
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:13,960
a holiday weekend, kind of wrapping up the summer for

1047
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,760
a lot of people. There's not a lot going on,

1048
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,679
but we are building to September and Canelo Crawford. Other

1049
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,159
than that, my friend, let's have a good weekend. We'll

1050
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,320
come back. We'll have a preview pod going into the weekend.

1051
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,000
We may have something else. I don't want to spoil

1052
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,079
everybody surprised. We may have something else also on the

1053
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,760
pod feed, so make sure you're following, subscribing apples, Freaker, Spotify,

1054
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,519
anything else.

1055
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: So we good, We're good, We're good.

1056
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,119
Speaker 1: There's a big Dan rayphel I'm merely TJ Reeves. Thank

1057
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:40,800
you for being with us as you've been part of

1058
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,719
the Fight Freaks United Recap podcast