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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Hey, American way

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<v Speaker 1>is beautiful summer days, right, and we're gonna have plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of those we have already, but broilers over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of Colorado will be a hot and dry getting

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<v Speaker 1>up around one hundred on Sundays, So enjoy every minute

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<v Speaker 1>of it. You don't have to shovel heat, right, Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>So favorite time of the year, Well, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of favorite times of the year around here. Three

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<v Speaker 1>or three seven, one, three eight, two five five the

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<v Speaker 1>number text d an five seven seven three nine. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>want to come out of the gate with this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Gleayne Maxwell? That monster right who facilitated all of

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<v Speaker 1>this child rape? I mean, just absolutely horrific stuff. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we in agreement that under no circumstances whatsoever can President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump even think about pardoning her? And I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>if he ever would think about pardoning her. But his

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ has spent the full last two days or most

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<v Speaker 1>of those two days meeting with her in her jail cell. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say at the jail, right, they're not sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the cell. They would have got a conference room.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the President commenting on that today.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you consider a.

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<v Speaker 3>Pardon or a commutation for Helen macwill?

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<v Speaker 2>Is something I haven't thought about? What really is not recommended?

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<v Speaker 4>That something I'm allowed to do it, But there's something

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<v Speaker 4>I have not thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's not going to do it. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>pardon a person like that. You cannot pardon a person

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<v Speaker 1>directly responsible for probably countless child rapes at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>just can't do it. But what about DOJ doing a

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<v Speaker 1>deal with her where she gets some sort of very

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<v Speaker 1>substantial sentence reduction in exchange for naming names.

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<v Speaker 5>What about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, obviously there's a reason DJ has been there for

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<v Speaker 1>two days, right, because that's what's in the works. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's in the works, is what can she give up

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for I'd be surprised if it was her

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<v Speaker 1>absolute freedom, it won't be a pardon. But if if

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<v Speaker 1>it's in exchange for being released from prison or at least,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be more inclined to think maybe they cut

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<v Speaker 1>the sentence down to another six months or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>but should DOJ give that up if it came down to, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets her freedom in exchange for giving up the

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<v Speaker 1>names and testifying in those prosecutions, would you support that deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Three or three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 1>text d A N five seven seven three nine. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the administration knows that this Epstein matter has has

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<v Speaker 1>become an issue for it. The left is way overplaying

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<v Speaker 1>it in terms of political harm to the administration. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly a distraction at a time when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's on a roll on so many different fronts, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'd really rather get rid of this, obviously, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's typical Trump right where and there are rare missteps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really amazing how many things he does well compared

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<v Speaker 1>to how many missteps. And we all have missteps, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a human endeavor life is. But he seems to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to then turn those few missteps into

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<v Speaker 1>big wins. And I think that's one way that they're

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to do that now with Epstein, is if in

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<v Speaker 1>the end they engineer a deal with her where she

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<v Speaker 1>then names names and there can be all these other prosecutions,

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<v Speaker 1>big victory for the Trump administration. So love your take

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<v Speaker 1>on that and this gorgeous Friday afternoon. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other ground we want to cover as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan, How are you doing? I think?

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<v Speaker 6>And then there got through another two hour odyssey today

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<v Speaker 6>or the Dan Kaplish pregame show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I don't think it's getting through it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you enjoy every minute of it, as we

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<v Speaker 1>all do.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, it's been a wild week, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness? Well they all are now, right, really is?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just the twenty four to seven news cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we get into the issue we've spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time on this week, and don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>say I told you so, But several days later, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the national consensus from commentators is now landing

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<v Speaker 1>where I started, which is to hold your breath on

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<v Speaker 1>any criminal prosecutions over you know, this horrific lie, this

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<v Speaker 1>horrific twisting of intelligence that we used to try to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy Donald Trump. It was evil, it was very very

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<v Speaker 1>damaging to this country, let alone to President Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>But highly unlikely to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Many criminal charges out of that, And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>President himself acknowledged today that there won't be any for

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama, right if for no other reason, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the immunity ruling, which the US Supreme Court I

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<v Speaker 1>think was dead right on and benefited President Trump, will

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<v Speaker 1>certainly benefit President Obama. Here now, starting point for me

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<v Speaker 1>is I think Obama did evil, evil things when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to this Russia hoax, But I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>did criminal things. Somebody may prove me wrong on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but a I don't think he committed crime. Games he

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<v Speaker 1>committed to moral offenses. He did terrible things to this country,

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<v Speaker 1>was extraordinarily dishonest, but I don't think it fits any

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<v Speaker 1>particular criminal charge.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody disagrees. Happy to have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation, and in case we know there's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be any prosecution of Barack Obama, will there be.

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<v Speaker 5>Something against somebody in his orbit? Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the administration starts all this unless they

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<v Speaker 1>thought they had somebody they could charge for perjury or

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<v Speaker 1>something else in his orbit. But I don't expect any

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<v Speaker 1>mass prosecutions. I think you had a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>doing evil things to try to destroy an innocent man,

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<v Speaker 1>and that harmed this country gravely. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>probably very carefully stayed on the non prosecutable side of

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<v Speaker 1>that line. What are you betting on, my friend, you

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<v Speaker 1>bet on prosecutions convictions?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I kind of went where the clips you requested

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<v Speaker 6>led me. And I think if there's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>one sacrificial lamb or scal that'll kind of be put

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<v Speaker 6>on the scoreboard for the Trump administration, it's John Brennan

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<v Speaker 6>on a perjury charge. Yeah, that's an easy layup, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>And then also he was central to the advancing of

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<v Speaker 6>the Russia collusion hoax narrative and then denied that the

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<v Speaker 6>Steele dossia was any part of their intelligence gathering process.

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<v Speaker 6>There's video of this him testifying with Trey Goudy questioning him,

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<v Speaker 6>and you could tell Representative Gaudy at that time South

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<v Speaker 6>Carolina Republican kind of knew it was like the caduait

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<v Speaker 6>the Canary, knew what it was really true, but was

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<v Speaker 6>getting Brennan to perjure himself really in front of Congress.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jonathan Turley, level headed guy who I think is

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he thinks that Brennan is the most vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 8>And it does appear that a couple of these figures

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<v Speaker 8>may have committed perjury. I think the most vulnerable maybe Brennan,

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<v Speaker 8>who is like a thirty point buck now out in

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<v Speaker 8>the open. I mean, he's this stuff goes directly to

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<v Speaker 8>information that he gave to Congress. It seems to be

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<v Speaker 8>in contradiction, and so there are real questions here. I

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<v Speaker 8>mean people talk about, well, you can't charge Obama. That's

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<v Speaker 8>very likely the case. He's probably protected. But these individuals,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's Comb or Brennan, are not protected from perjury charges.

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<v Speaker 8>If the central limitations has not run, they are more

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<v Speaker 8>likely to be called again to repeat prior testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they'll be a lot happening here, and there

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<v Speaker 1>should be, right because Americans should know what happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>they should know who did it, and they should know

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<v Speaker 1>for certain that there are these group of people out

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<v Speaker 1>there on the left you cannot trust.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that has to see the light of day.

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<v Speaker 1>But the answer to this, ultimately, I don't believe is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be found in the criminal courts. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be found in the court of public opinion, which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to manifest at the voting booth. Then so, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>these truths need to be known and then in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of justice for President Trump, who was so wrongly accused

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<v Speaker 1>in his first term, undermined so gravely, hopefully the justice

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<v Speaker 1>is found now in this triumph. And when we think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, this triumph of him is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>so far beyond any kind of triumph he would have

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<v Speaker 1>experienced in a consecutive second term. Right, And historically we

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<v Speaker 1>know second terms tend to sort of fade out, if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else just human fatigue, and they fade out. But

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<v Speaker 1>because of everything that happened in this triumphant comeback and

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<v Speaker 1>surviving the assassination attempt and just overcoming everything he had

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome, he now is going to have an infinitely

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<v Speaker 1>more impactful second term. So maybe there's some real justice

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<v Speaker 1>found in that. And does certainly some poetic irony, right

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the left that broke all these

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<v Speaker 1>rules and broke all of these moral rules in order

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<v Speaker 1>to try to destroy him. Dan Galaine already willingly answered

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<v Speaker 1>all questions asked to about one hundred people News is reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not quite sure what that text is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but listen, if the point is the reason Deo j

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<v Speaker 1>spent two hours with her is they're getting it. Offer

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<v Speaker 1>proof from her as to what she would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to offer up in exchange for her freedom or near freedom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would fully expect that's the case. Otherwise you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need all of this time over two days.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you make that choice?

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<v Speaker 1>Would would you allow somebody who'd been central to the

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<v Speaker 1>mass rape of children to get out of jail a

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<v Speaker 1>day early in exchange for anything. Let's answer that after

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<v Speaker 1>the break.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My next fight. I think I'm going to use that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be my wallet. That's solid.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I always think of Miami Vice when this song comes on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, great episodes, great music on that shows Michael Thomas.

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<v Speaker 5>But the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Premise, right, the whole premise said, Okay, you can be

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<v Speaker 1>riding around in your hester Rose, so you can be

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<v Speaker 1>dressed like that, you can look like that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guys would never figure it out, never figure out

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a nark.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, yeah, but no, it was it was fun

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<v Speaker 5>to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually sat next to him at what was that? What

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<v Speaker 1>year was that Duke played somebody in Denver? I think

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<v Speaker 1>by accident. It's not like he said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>sit with that guy. You know, just what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>there by accident? But uh, but yeah, seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>good enough guy. Three or three someone three eight, two

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<v Speaker 1>five five the number, but not the most famous person

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever sat next to it a sporting event, and

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<v Speaker 1>he guesses on who that would be Jack Nicholson. No, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Kelly's I think No, nobody would guess.

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<v Speaker 6>No, Byron White Well, yeah, yeah, the Heisman Trophy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had no idea. I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure he said a word to me the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, but I said, right, he has a very

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<v Speaker 1>very cool guy, very friendly guy. But you had a

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<v Speaker 1>you see this story, Ryan, this isn't another story. Team

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to tell you if you're listening to the show,

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<v Speaker 5>right where would you draw that line.

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<v Speaker 5>How about you, Ryan, where would you draw that line?

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<v Speaker 1>But starting with sim assume nobody gets hurt, although far

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<v Speaker 5>What would that speed be?

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<v Speaker 7>A state cup back in Michigan, it's flow of traffic.

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<v Speaker 6>triple digits are higher. What's the number, okay you eight hundred?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would bet Ryan that in this audience, for

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's just kind of that round number.

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<v Speaker 1>It just sticks out, and I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>And do you agree with the concept that listen't times

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<v Speaker 1>the law should have changed a long time ago. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we need much much tougher punishment for people driving recklessly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would guess the vast majority of people listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now probably speed on a regular basis, you know, probably.

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<v Speaker 5>Do up to nine over routinely, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you're not going to do it in a school zone,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably what the typical person does in highway talking

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<v Speaker 1>to highway conditions, that's not what I'm talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking about here, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's exploding across Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>So do you support that? I think it's way overdue.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you imagine a ballot measure in Colorado on that

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<v Speaker 5>probably be ninety ten in favor. Let's go to Morrison, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>Talk to either d or Denise. You're on the Dame

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<v Speaker 2>My mom only gave me one end. So but that's

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<v Speaker 2>a French way of spelling it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it truly is a Kelly, My apologies, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you misspelled it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're a one end Dennis. Yes, holy cow, if every teacher,

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<v Speaker 5>every everything you've ever signed up for people have said

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I lived that since first grade when they passed

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<v Speaker 2>stuff back at Catholic school and call me Denise.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, if I ever received any document and it

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<v Speaker 2>was spelled wrong with two ends, my mom was there

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<v Speaker 2>banging on their door because that's the Catholica. That's it's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm named after Saint Dennis.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I would have lost that question. But is this

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<v Speaker 1>like a boy named Sue? Did your mom do it

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<v Speaker 1>for that reason, just to make it tough?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I've told you in the past. My

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<v Speaker 2>mom was a police officer in nineteen forty five. She's

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<v Speaker 2>already done Pasadena, California. She right raised seven kids and

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<v Speaker 2>sent us all the Catholic school and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we've all toed the line. So you're a wonderful woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to write a book about her.

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<v Speaker 2>I could probably write an encyclopedia. Shee was a wonderful woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I live up I've got a Morrison address. I

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<v Speaker 2>live closer to Conifer, and we lost a couple earlier

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<v Speaker 2>set up a GoFundMe page for them and your listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're looking for it, they can just google abide

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<v Speaker 1>Them abid Yeah, okay, yes, no, Dennis. For those who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard, I read this story. How did this crash happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, somebody was going the wrong way up to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>And and.

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<v Speaker 5>Did the killer survive?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. They had to the fire department had

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<v Speaker 2>to cut the car and have to get them out

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<v Speaker 2>and both of them, both of them died at the hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>So sad. And to go fund me again because we're

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<v Speaker 2>Is it's it's they could go Google abide ride go

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<v Speaker 1>Great, Dennis, thank you for the call, and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to continue this conversation. I don't know the particulars there,

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<v Speaker 1>but but what do we need to do with these penalties?

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<v Speaker 1>Right because we see vehicular homicide in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>often those jail sentences are not very long, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>blame the courts, blame the legislature. Very often those jail

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<v Speaker 1>sentences are not very long. But do we need to

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<v Speaker 1>have a mandatory, a mandatory of at least a year

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<v Speaker 1>for vehicular homicide across the board in Colorado? What do

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do with our traffic laws to start

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<v Speaker 1>protecting ourselves from these killers? And they are killers, They're

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<v Speaker 1>just killers on the highway here on the Dan Caplis Show.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 9>If they cut a deal, what should appears that they're

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<v Speaker 9>trying to do with Julane Maxwell. Of course that will

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<v Speaker 9>not be satisfactory to people, because she's part of the

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<v Speaker 9>problem and how could you possibly trust her? And so

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<v Speaker 9>he's got to deal. He's got to find a way

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<v Speaker 9>out that would be satisfactory to a group of people,

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<v Speaker 9>a MAGA base, voters who feel like this is one

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<v Speaker 9>of the crimes of the century.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Sam Stein from The Daily Beast is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong there. I think that if and he's missing a

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<v Speaker 1>process of doing cuts a deal with Maxwell where she

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<v Speaker 1>helps the prosecution of a large number of people involved

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<v Speaker 1>in these child rapes, and her help is material, and

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<v Speaker 1>they succeed in arrests and convictions. You know, at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would that would greatly satisfy you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with those in the President's base who feels

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<v Speaker 1>like I do, that we need to get We need

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<v Speaker 1>to get much, much, much much more of the truth

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<v Speaker 1>on Epstein. Now, listen, I understand there's information regarding victims

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<v Speaker 1>that victims may not want released. There's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>We have to protect the innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>But we need much more information regarding the guilty, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a practical matter, the only way you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that is probably through Maxwell. And so she's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>trying to use that leverage right now. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a way that President Trump could come out of

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ engineers that deal. And there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people brought down with her testimony, people who should be

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<v Speaker 1>brought down. Now, listen, I'm the guy who told you

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<v Speaker 1>before this idea han't her testify before Congress. The danger

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<v Speaker 1>If you're operating now in a DOJ context where she's

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<v Speaker 1>a much different thing, much more valuable, much more important,

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<v Speaker 1>much more credible, and much less likely to catch the

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<v Speaker 1>innocent up in the fervor of the moment. Three oh

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<v Speaker 1>three seven, one, three eight, two five five the number.

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<v Speaker 1>So I expect that's where this is headed. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think anything that can lead to more prosecutions of more

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<v Speaker 1>child rapists we need to do. Giving Maxwell even a

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<v Speaker 1>single day offer sentence, it really really bothers me because

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<v Speaker 1>she's guilty directly or indirectly. In my view, she's guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of mass child rape. Randy and Thornton, you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>dan Kaplas. She'll welcome, Hey, Randy. Randy may be thinking deeply,

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<v Speaker 1>which is always encouraged on this show. What we're really

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<v Speaker 1>Is this epidemic we've been talking about a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I just read another version of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like there's a new story every day, and for

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<v Speaker 1>every story reported of somebody off and young, but it

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<v Speaker 1>can be any age, somebody driving, you know, one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty, one hundred and fifty driving fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles over the speed limit.

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<v Speaker 5>Often these end and death, serious injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got another version of this story where how

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<v Speaker 1>many times do you see it a week where okay,

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<v Speaker 1>please stop, somebody going one hundred and thirty, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty going eighty over the limit. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>this state to start protecting its children, start protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>people we care about. It's time for this date to

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<v Speaker 1>start hammering these reckless drivers mandatory jail, losing the license

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. So my question to you is,

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<v Speaker 1>at what speed would you draw the line. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that it's one of those where, thank god, nobody's injured

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<v Speaker 1>or killed and there's no property damage.

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<v Speaker 5>It's somebody busted going over X speed. At what point.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you kick in mandatory loss of license for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory week in jail. What would that speed be? And

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<v Speaker 1>then let's talk about other areas. Do we now need

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<v Speaker 1>at least a one year actually behind by our minimum

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<v Speaker 1>for vehicular homicide? What about vehicular celt Because I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you this is what I've done for a living for

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<v Speaker 1>forty plus years. Is the civil side, the money damage

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<v Speaker 1>a side of these catastrophic cases. And I'm here to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you would be you would be blowing away, you

447
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<v Speaker 1>would be furious, you'd be thrown up mad if you knew,

448
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<v Speaker 1>if you knew how light, how light the penalties are

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<v Speaker 1>under existing Colorado law for people who even go out

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<v Speaker 1>and kill behind the wheel, and don't blame the judges,

451
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<v Speaker 1>don't blame the prosecutors in most cases. Now, some prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>you can blame, especially in these you know, far left

453
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<v Speaker 1>sorrows type prosecution offices. And we've talked a lot about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what Amy Padden did in that case where

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<v Speaker 1>this precious, innocent twenty four year old girl or was

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<v Speaker 1>killed by this teenager driving ninety in a residential area.

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<v Speaker 5>And and he he.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets a deal, I think, if I remember correctly, in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, with just probation and maybe some community service. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking, the problem is the laws themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>where would you draw that line? Three or three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 1>three eight, two five five?

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<v Speaker 5>The number?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, yes, ma'am, I do have a question permission to speak.

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<v Speaker 5>Since when I need permissions and you should never need permissions.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have defended so many victims in these speeding

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<v Speaker 4>cases overly speeding. Would you say speeding could be considered

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<v Speaker 4>a drug?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? What an interesting question, Kelly. As always, why do

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<v Speaker 1>people do this?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do the people who go out there and drive

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<v Speaker 1>fifty over seventy five over, whether they kill somebody or not,

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<v Speaker 1>why do they do it? You know, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think many do it because they're on drugs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>many of these situations we see now. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>been explosion to this since legalization of marijuana and Colorado

478
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<v Speaker 1>became known as the State of Drugs rather than the

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<v Speaker 1>state of health. But some of this one on before then, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure for some it's kind of an intoxicating high.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you in my cases, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, and I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them right now that fit this mode. It's a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Often there's some level of impairments. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the thrill. But here's the common denominator, Kelly, to

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<v Speaker 1>your good question, at least in my forty years of

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<v Speaker 1>representing victims, is in each and every one of these cases,

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<v Speaker 1>there is an absolute total disregard for innocent human life.

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<v Speaker 1>They could not care less. They could not care less.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the common denominator. But and we know this right

491
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<v Speaker 1>to stop it, that to stop it, it's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of lots more support for law enforcement, lots more law

493
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<v Speaker 1>enforcement out there on the road to enforce because right now,

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<v Speaker 1>these reckless drivers know the chance of being caught is

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<v Speaker 1>very slim unless they do crash, which they do way

496
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<v Speaker 1>too often, and the penalties, the penalties have to be

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<v Speaker 1>amped up enormously.

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<v Speaker 5>So, Kelly, where would you draw that line?

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<v Speaker 1>At what speed does somebody just automatically you lose that

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<v Speaker 1>license for a year and you're going to jail for

501
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<v Speaker 1>at least a week. Well, that assumes no crash.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly, I am so bewildered by the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>I see so many of these motorcyclists, these bullet bikes.

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<v Speaker 4>But it doesn't always end there. It's also different cars

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<v Speaker 4>that are souped up, and they don't they run red lights.

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<v Speaker 4>This is happening quite a lot. Yeah, And I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you have often, you know, told everyone you know make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that you look both ways, which I have adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>In well before leaving a green light when it turns

510
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<v Speaker 1>don't as soon you can go exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would say to your point about bringing up

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<v Speaker 4>the fifteen year old who stole the mom's car killed

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty four year old who was going over one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and a forty five, that should immediately engender Yeah, license.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he had a license, So what are

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<v Speaker 5>you going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, he should be in jail for

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of his life, but Amy Patton put him

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<v Speaker 4>in probition.

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<v Speaker 1>Texter Dan Texter disagrees with me in that thinks I'm

521
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<v Speaker 1>being too tough. A week in jail and a year's

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<v Speaker 1>suspension for one hundred miles plus no, no, needs to

523
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<v Speaker 1>be a minimum of one hundred and twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>See, I just disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of this carnage out there right now is

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<v Speaker 1>happening between ninety and and one hundred, one hundred and

527
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<v Speaker 1>ten plus. Uh, you can commit that there can be

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<v Speaker 1>horrific carnage at forty.

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<v Speaker 5>Miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>So depending on the circumstances there three or three seven, one, three, eight, two,

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<v Speaker 1>five five go to more texters at d an five, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>seven through nine. The other issue we've mixed in is

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<v Speaker 1>Glade Maxwell looks like they're in the process of working

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<v Speaker 1>out a cooperation deal with her. A under any circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>should she be pardoned? And I say absolutely not. A

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<v Speaker 1>B would you allow her to walk out of jail

537
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<v Speaker 1>still a convict, et cetera? Walk out of jail if

538
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<v Speaker 1>she's going to help put others away, other child rapists

539
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<v Speaker 1>away who operated in Epstein's orbit and with Epstein, et cetera,

540
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<v Speaker 1>how many should.

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<v Speaker 5>She have to be able to put away to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to get out of jail. You're on the Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>Capla Show, and now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a matter of self preservation now and protecting our children, family,

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<v Speaker 1>everything we love. If you haven't noticed, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have, killers have taken over this state and they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadways, and the left is undermine law enforcement,

548
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<v Speaker 1>so we have very little enforcement on the roadways anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And the killers have noticed and They don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>your life, or your children or anybody else, and they

551
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<v Speaker 1>prove it every day. So they've made clear what they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do, and what are we gonna do? What are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna do to protect the people we love, starting

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<v Speaker 1>with our children? And if we don't do anything, then

555
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<v Speaker 1>we're not men, We're mice. We're not women, we're what what?

556
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<v Speaker 1>What's the corollary for that?

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan?

558
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<v Speaker 1>But the point being that we got to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. And these laws have to change dramatically and

560
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<v Speaker 1>there have to be much tougher penalties and mandatory minimums.

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<v Speaker 5>What should that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Three O three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 1>text d A N five seven seven three nine. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to David in beautiful Colorado Springs. You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Kaplo Show. Welcome David.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm living the dream? How about you?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna be a devil's advocate add in the grid

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<v Speaker 10>the same time. Okay, it's first off, they're so young

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<v Speaker 10>and dumb. We've all made dumb mistakes and unfortunately this

571
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<v Speaker 10>is serious. But giving them a week in jail, give

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<v Speaker 10>them six months, that's just a bunch of crying but

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<v Speaker 10>I think that they the judge that sends improbation, but

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<v Speaker 10>no cell phone, no nothing, because that's where they get hurt.

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<v Speaker 10>You take their cell phone.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you enforce it, Well.

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<v Speaker 10>Youve got to You've got to hope the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, let's zero in on your on your

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<v Speaker 1>really important point about so often these people are young

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<v Speaker 1>and dumb, and and what I'd say to that is

582
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<v Speaker 1>you're right, but wait, First of all, that doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>them a right to kill. Second, you don't want them killed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the penalties have to be so severe

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<v Speaker 1>that it will penetrate, permeate that that within you know,

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<v Speaker 1>high school, say people will understand and oh man, no

587
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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do that. Or if somebody's a

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<v Speaker 1>passenger in the car, you don't want to do that.

589
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<v Speaker 1>You're going to lose your license for two years, or

590
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<v Speaker 1>you're going to lose your license for three years, or

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<v Speaker 1>it's mandatory jail. We've got to do something so shocked

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<v Speaker 1>and aw dramatic that that message sinks in. But David,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your point about the young, and very

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<v Speaker 1>often that is a case but no excuse, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so often they're killing other young people, whether they're passengers

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<v Speaker 1>in the car or other young people they hit Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, writes a text. Or I had

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<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle, I would go out late at night, take

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<v Speaker 1>the thing one hundred and eighty to two hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour down empty freeways because it was a thrill,

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<v Speaker 1>adrenaline boost, etc. And then it goes on from there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that's a common story. I can remember

603
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<v Speaker 1>once when I was single and I was driving out

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<v Speaker 1>to California to cover the Rodney King case. And I

605
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<v Speaker 1>was on a remote stretch of highway and you taw nobody,

606
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<v Speaker 1>nobody as far as the eye could see, and I

607
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<v Speaker 1>went way too fast, and I thank god that something

608
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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. Then I know it was extremely stupid. I

609
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<v Speaker 1>get all of that, but that's still no excuse. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to have those mandatory minimums. Brad in Highlands, Ray

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<v Speaker 1>and you're on the Dan Kaplas, She'll welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Dan, how are you doing today, good man?

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a.

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<v Speaker 3>Texta story for you. It might help Colorado lawmakers, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pass the word around to the lawmakers that I

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<v Speaker 3>know in the state of Texas. Back in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were doing over one hundred miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine the speed limit on the interstate was about fifty five.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were doing over one hundred miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>they impounded your car. They crushed it and gave it

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<v Speaker 3>back to you and gave you a ticket for littering

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<v Speaker 3>if you didn't come and pick up your crushed car.

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<v Speaker 5>We need something like that. That's what we need, Brad.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually happened to a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he lost his car, got crushed and got

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<v Speaker 3>a ticket for littering in the state of tech.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that. It's something dramatic like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Brad gets everybody's attention and your friend owes

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<v Speaker 1>them a debt of gratitude, right, because what are the

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<v Speaker 1>chances your friend would have ended up then killing himself,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you didn't kill himself, killed somebody else. And yeah, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles in town is insanity. One hundred on

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<v Speaker 1>I seventy east of Strasbourg and a new Corvette I

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<v Speaker 1>don't own one when there's not another current site should

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<v Speaker 1>get a hefty fine. But you weren't in danger in anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think that needs jail time for one hundred. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>for one fifty, the line should be somewhere in between,

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<v Speaker 1>and based on location, fifty in a twenty when kids

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<v Speaker 1>are on the sidewalk should be jail time. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>very thoughtful, beautifully written text. And so yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the law can be set up that way, but we

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<v Speaker 1>do need I think we need that magic number of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I really do. And I think it needs to apply

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<v Speaker 5>to highways as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And believe me, I understand the Corvette example and that

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<v Speaker 1>brief shining moment in time when I had a new Corvette,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be shocked if it had gone over that number.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's no excuse, right, So I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>that magic number personally, we need that magic number everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they've got to be mandatory minimums. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose the license for X period of time and

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<v Speaker 1>you go to jail for X period of time. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do something dramatic there and then crank it up,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Texter says for stuff inside town. Dan, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to change speeding behavior, it should apply it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles over the speed limit.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think about that. How often are you

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<v Speaker 5>twenty miles over?

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<v Speaker 7>Ryan? Was it again?

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<v Speaker 5>How often are you twenty miles over the speed limit?

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty over?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Not very often.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, so, okay, I'm going let's say south on

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five out of town past Castle Rock and it.

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<v Speaker 7>Goes up to seventy five.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think I could go ninety five though, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think I've gone even ninety.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll break eighty somewhere in their eighty two bus fast

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<v Speaker 7>I go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, one of the challenges is some of

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<v Speaker 1>these new cars, and they don't have to be a big,

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<v Speaker 1>fancy expensive cars. Some of these new cars, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going that fast, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you get done. Now, Now, what we've got going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the killers out there right is they're intentionally driving

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<v Speaker 1>that fast. Whether it's for the thrill or something else potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>but one way or the other, A lot of cars, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get up around ninety and it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it, but it's just as lethal.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, Is it just a coincidence?

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<v Speaker 1>Rights a text to dam five seven seven three nine

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<v Speaker 1>that the amount of vehicles with expired or no license

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<v Speaker 1>plates has exploded in the Denver Metro once we announce

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<v Speaker 1>we are a sanctuary state, and then it goes on

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<v Speaker 1>from there. Listen, the sanctuary state thing is insane. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so wrong on every level. And sure that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I submit to you here is this comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the left undermining law enforcement, which means there's

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<v Speaker 1>very little enforcement on.

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<v Speaker 5>The roadways compared to what there used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't blame you know, they're the great men and women

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<v Speaker 1>in blue who blame the politicians. But that's the reality,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that leads to a lot more no plates,

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<v Speaker 1>expired plates, et cetera here on the Denkempt shop
