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Speaker 1: is beautiful summer days, right, and we're gonna have plenty
Speaker 1: of those we have already, but broilers over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Much of Colorado will be a hot and dry getting
Speaker 1: up around one hundred on Sundays, So enjoy every minute
Speaker 1: of it. You don't have to shovel heat, right, Ryan.
Speaker 1: So favorite time of the year, Well, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of favorite times of the year around here. Three
Speaker 1: or three seven, one, three eight, two five five the
Speaker 1: number text d an five seven seven three nine. Hey
Speaker 1: want to come out of the gate with this one?
Speaker 1: Uh Gleayne Maxwell? That monster right who facilitated all of
Speaker 1: this child rape? I mean, just absolutely horrific stuff. Are
Speaker 1: we in agreement that under no circumstances whatsoever can President
Speaker 1: Trump even think about pardoning her? And I don't believe
Speaker 1: if he ever would think about pardoning her. But his
Speaker 1: DOJ has spent the full last two days or most
Speaker 1: of those two days meeting with her in her jail cell. Well,
Speaker 1: I should say at the jail, right, they're not sitting
Speaker 1: in the cell. They would have got a conference room.
Speaker 1: Here's the President commenting on that today.
Speaker 2: Would you consider a.
Speaker 3: Pardon or a commutation for Helen macwill?
Speaker 2: Is something I haven't thought about? What really is not recommended?
Speaker 4: That something I'm allowed to do it, But there's something
Speaker 4: I have not thought about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not going to do it. You cannot
Speaker 1: pardon a person like that. You cannot pardon a person
Speaker 1: directly responsible for probably countless child rapes at this point,
Speaker 1: just can't do it. But what about DOJ doing a
Speaker 1: deal with her where she gets some sort of very
Speaker 1: substantial sentence reduction in exchange for naming names.
Speaker 5: What about that?
Speaker 1: Now, obviously there's a reason DJ has been there for
Speaker 1: two days, right, because that's what's in the works. That's
Speaker 1: what's in the works, is what can she give up
Speaker 1: in exchange for I'd be surprised if it was her
Speaker 1: absolute freedom, it won't be a pardon. But if if
Speaker 1: it's in exchange for being released from prison or at least,
Speaker 1: I would be more inclined to think maybe they cut
Speaker 1: the sentence down to another six months or whatever. But
Speaker 1: but should DOJ give that up if it came down to, Okay,
Speaker 1: she gets her freedom in exchange for giving up the
Speaker 1: names and testifying in those prosecutions, would you support that deal?
Speaker 1: Three or three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 1: text d A N five seven seven three nine. I
Speaker 1: think the administration knows that this Epstein matter has has
Speaker 1: become an issue for it. The left is way overplaying
Speaker 1: it in terms of political harm to the administration. But
Speaker 1: it's certainly a distraction at a time when you know,
Speaker 1: Trump's on a roll on so many different fronts, and
Speaker 1: they'd really rather get rid of this, obviously, And it's
Speaker 1: it's typical Trump right where and there are rare missteps.
Speaker 1: It's really amazing how many things he does well compared
Speaker 1: to how many missteps. And we all have missteps, right,
Speaker 1: it's a human endeavor life is. But he seems to
Speaker 1: find a way to then turn those few missteps into
Speaker 1: big wins. And I think that's one way that they're
Speaker 1: attempting to do that now with Epstein, is if in
Speaker 1: the end they engineer a deal with her where she
Speaker 1: then names names and there can be all these other prosecutions,
Speaker 1: big victory for the Trump administration. So love your take
Speaker 1: on that and this gorgeous Friday afternoon. A lot of
Speaker 1: other ground we want to cover as well.
Speaker 5: Ryan, How are you doing? I think?
Speaker 6: And then there got through another two hour odyssey today
Speaker 6: or the Dan Kaplish pregame show.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't think it's getting through it at all.
Speaker 1: I think you enjoy every minute of it, as we
Speaker 1: all do.
Speaker 7: Right, it's been a wild week, hasn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness? Well they all are now, right, really is?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the twenty four to seven news cycle.
Speaker 1: And then we get into the issue we've spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time on this week, and don't mean to
Speaker 1: say I told you so, But several days later, it
Speaker 1: seems like the national consensus from commentators is now landing
Speaker 1: where I started, which is to hold your breath on
Speaker 1: any criminal prosecutions over you know, this horrific lie, this
Speaker 1: horrific twisting of intelligence that we used to try to
Speaker 1: destroy Donald Trump. It was evil, it was very very
Speaker 1: damaging to this country, let alone to President Trump.
Speaker 5: But highly unlikely to be.
Speaker 1: Many criminal charges out of that, And I think the
Speaker 1: President himself acknowledged today that there won't be any for
Speaker 1: Barack Obama, right if for no other reason, the fact
Speaker 1: that the immunity ruling, which the US Supreme Court I
Speaker 1: think was dead right on and benefited President Trump, will
Speaker 1: certainly benefit President Obama. Here now, starting point for me
Speaker 1: is I think Obama did evil, evil things when it
Speaker 1: came to this Russia hoax, But I don't think he
Speaker 1: did criminal things. Somebody may prove me wrong on that,
Speaker 1: but a I don't think he committed crime. Games he
Speaker 1: committed to moral offenses. He did terrible things to this country,
Speaker 1: was extraordinarily dishonest, but I don't think it fits any
Speaker 1: particular criminal charge.
Speaker 5: Somebody disagrees. Happy to have the.
Speaker 1: Conversation, and in case we know there's not going to
Speaker 1: be any prosecution of Barack Obama, will there be.
Speaker 5: Something against somebody in his orbit? Probably?
Speaker 1: I don't think the administration starts all this unless they
Speaker 1: thought they had somebody they could charge for perjury or
Speaker 1: something else in his orbit. But I don't expect any
Speaker 1: mass prosecutions. I think you had a bunch of people
Speaker 1: doing evil things to try to destroy an innocent man,
Speaker 1: and that harmed this country gravely. But I think they
Speaker 1: probably very carefully stayed on the non prosecutable side of
Speaker 1: that line. What are you betting on, my friend, you
Speaker 1: bet on prosecutions convictions?
Speaker 6: Oh, I kind of went where the clips you requested
Speaker 6: led me. And I think if there's going to be
Speaker 6: one sacrificial lamb or scal that'll kind of be put
Speaker 6: on the scoreboard for the Trump administration, it's John Brennan
Speaker 6: on a perjury charge. Yeah, that's an easy layup, I think.
Speaker 6: And then also he was central to the advancing of
Speaker 6: the Russia collusion hoax narrative and then denied that the
Speaker 6: Steele dossia was any part of their intelligence gathering process.
Speaker 6: There's video of this him testifying with Trey Goudy questioning him,
Speaker 6: and you could tell Representative Gaudy at that time South
Speaker 6: Carolina Republican kind of knew it was like the caduait
Speaker 6: the Canary, knew what it was really true, but was
Speaker 6: getting Brennan to perjure himself really in front of Congress.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Jonathan Turley, level headed guy who I think is
Speaker 1: a go to source.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he thinks that Brennan is the most vulnerable.
Speaker 8: And it does appear that a couple of these figures
Speaker 8: may have committed perjury. I think the most vulnerable maybe Brennan,
Speaker 8: who is like a thirty point buck now out in
Speaker 8: the open. I mean, he's this stuff goes directly to
Speaker 8: information that he gave to Congress. It seems to be
Speaker 8: in contradiction, and so there are real questions here. I
Speaker 8: mean people talk about, well, you can't charge Obama. That's
Speaker 8: very likely the case. He's probably protected. But these individuals,
Speaker 8: whether it's Comb or Brennan, are not protected from perjury charges.
Speaker 8: If the central limitations has not run, they are more
Speaker 8: likely to be called again to repeat prior testimony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they'll be a lot happening here, and there
Speaker 1: should be, right because Americans should know what happened, and
Speaker 1: they should know who did it, and they should know
Speaker 1: for certain that there are these group of people out
Speaker 1: there on the left you cannot trust.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that has to see the light of day.
Speaker 1: But the answer to this, ultimately, I don't believe is
Speaker 1: going to be found in the criminal courts. It's going
Speaker 1: to be found in the court of public opinion, which
Speaker 1: is going to manifest at the voting booth. Then so, yes,
Speaker 1: these truths need to be known and then in terms
Speaker 1: of justice for President Trump, who was so wrongly accused
Speaker 1: in his first term, undermined so gravely, hopefully the justice
Speaker 1: is found now in this triumph. And when we think
Speaker 1: about it, this triumph of him is going to go
Speaker 1: so far beyond any kind of triumph he would have
Speaker 1: experienced in a consecutive second term. Right, And historically we
Speaker 1: know second terms tend to sort of fade out, if
Speaker 1: nothing else just human fatigue, and they fade out. But
Speaker 1: because of everything that happened in this triumphant comeback and
Speaker 1: surviving the assassination attempt and just overcoming everything he had
Speaker 1: to overcome, he now is going to have an infinitely
Speaker 1: more impactful second term. So maybe there's some real justice
Speaker 1: found in that. And does certainly some poetic irony, right
Speaker 1: when it comes to the left that broke all these
Speaker 1: rules and broke all of these moral rules in order
Speaker 1: to try to destroy him. Dan Galaine already willingly answered
Speaker 1: all questions asked to about one hundred people News is reporting,
Speaker 1: So I'm not quite sure what that text is saying,
Speaker 1: but listen, if the point is the reason Deo j
Speaker 1: spent two hours with her is they're getting it. Offer
Speaker 1: proof from her as to what she would be able
Speaker 1: to offer up in exchange for her freedom or near freedom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would fully expect that's the case. Otherwise you don't
Speaker 1: need all of this time over two days.
Speaker 5: Would you make that choice?
Speaker 1: Would would you allow somebody who'd been central to the
Speaker 1: mass rape of children to get out of jail a
Speaker 1: day early in exchange for anything. Let's answer that after
Speaker 1: the break.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: My next fight. I think I'm going to use that.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be my wallet. That's solid.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I always think of Miami Vice when this song comes on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, great episodes, great music on that shows Michael Thomas.
Speaker 5: But the whole.
Speaker 1: Premise, right, the whole premise said, Okay, you can be
Speaker 1: riding around in your hester Rose, so you can be
Speaker 1: dressed like that, you can look like that, and the
Speaker 1: bad guys would never figure it out, never figure out
Speaker 1: that you're a nark.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, but no, it was it was fun
Speaker 5: to watch.
Speaker 1: Actually sat next to him at what was that? What
Speaker 1: year was that Duke played somebody in Denver? I think
Speaker 1: it was NCAA Championship game final four? Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: by accident. It's not like he said, I want to
Speaker 1: sit with that guy. You know, just what kind of
Speaker 1: there by accident? But uh, but yeah, seem like a
Speaker 1: good enough guy. Three or three someone three eight, two
Speaker 1: five five the number, but not the most famous person
Speaker 1: I've ever sat next to it a sporting event, and
Speaker 1: he guesses on who that would be Jack Nicholson. No, oh, no,
Speaker 1: that's Kelly's I think No, nobody would guess.
Speaker 6: No, Byron White Well, yeah, yeah, the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had no idea. I was there.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he said a word to me the
Speaker 1: whole time, but I said, right, he has a very
Speaker 1: very cool guy, very friendly guy. But you had a
Speaker 1: lot of people to talk to. Three or three set
Speaker 1: one three eight, two five five takes d an five
Speaker 1: seven seven three nine. By the way, he had said
Speaker 1: not in that conversation that there's no way Jack Kennedy
Speaker 1: would have supported this, this whole idea of legalized abortion
Speaker 1: and the idea that it was constitutional, et cetera. Do
Speaker 1: you see this story, Ryan, this isn't another story. Team
Speaker 1: caught allegedly going one hundred and eight miles an hour
Speaker 1: while racing card down highway eighty three and this is,
Speaker 1: by the way, an epidemic in Colorado. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't need to tell you if you're listening to the show,
Speaker 1: because you're probably in your car. And you know, you
Speaker 1: know when there's all of this started right when the
Speaker 1: left started to undermine law enforcement, and so now there
Speaker 1: we have very little enforcement because of left cutting budgets
Speaker 1: and not supporting cops. And then you know, understandably it's
Speaker 1: it's more reluctance to make a stop, et cetera. But
Speaker 1: bottom line is, because of the left, we now have
Speaker 1: kind of mad max roads where you've got people going
Speaker 1: these crazy high speeds all the time. So what do
Speaker 1: we need to do? Personally? I think we need a
Speaker 1: mandatory We need such a shock and awe mandatory punishing
Speaker 1: sentence for people going over a certain speed.
Speaker 5: Limit, no matter what. I mean, that's a starting point,
Speaker 5: right where would you draw that line.
Speaker 1: Let's say the punishment was going to be you lose
Speaker 1: your license for a year, and if you're caught driving
Speaker 1: during that year, you lose it for five and there's
Speaker 1: mandatory jail. And you know, the mandatory jail can be
Speaker 1: a week or whatever. If nobody gets hurt, if somebody
Speaker 1: gets hurt, then it does to skyrocket. But where would
Speaker 1: you draw that line on speed? Love to hear from
Speaker 1: me in that three or three seOne three A two
Speaker 1: five five the number text d A N five seven
Speaker 1: seven three nine.
Speaker 5: How about you, Ryan, where would you draw that line?
Speaker 1: Now? Listen, this is in addition to any other charges, right,
Speaker 1: Like somebody ends up injuring or killing somebody, then we've
Speaker 1: really got to toughen up those sentences. The vehicular homicide,
Speaker 1: the sentencing needs to be mandatory, needs to be much longer.
Speaker 1: But starting with sim assume nobody gets hurt, although far
Speaker 1: too often people do. If you go over X speed,
Speaker 1: you lose your license for a year, and there's a
Speaker 1: mandatory week in jail.
Speaker 5: What would that speed be?
Speaker 7: Wow, certainly one hundred.
Speaker 6: I think if you're going one hundred or faster, that's
Speaker 6: blatant disregard and recklessness for the people on the road.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of this is measured, as I've
Speaker 6: talked to police officers in the past, including my buddies.
Speaker 7: A state cup back in Michigan, it's flow of traffic.
Speaker 6: So if all the traffic is going, you know, in Chicago,
Speaker 6: I remember driving it was like fifty five miles an
Speaker 6: hour speed limit on the Kennedy. Everybody's going like seventy everybody,
Speaker 6: So I mean, you're not going to pull over everybody
Speaker 6: again if they're not, you know, breaching the flow of traffic.
Speaker 6: But when you have cars or craw rockets weaving in
Speaker 6: and out of traffic at very high rates of speed,
Speaker 6: I mean, that's when my alarm goes off. But certainly
Speaker 6: triple digits are higher. What's the number, okay you eight hundred?
Speaker 1: And I would bet Ryan that in this audience, for
Speaker 1: lots of different reasons, I would say eighty five percent
Speaker 1: of the folks would say that number, would say one hundred.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just kind of that round number.
Speaker 1: It just sticks out, and I think I think that's
Speaker 1: what people would say. But I'd love teer from you
Speaker 1: on that. Three or three seven, one, three eight two
Speaker 1: five five d an five seven seven, three or nine?
Speaker 1: And do you agree with the concept that listen't times
Speaker 1: have changed? The law has to change with it, and
Speaker 1: the law should have changed a long time ago. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we need much much tougher punishment for people driving recklessly.
Speaker 1: And I would guess the vast majority of people listening
Speaker 1: right now probably speed on a regular basis, you know, probably.
Speaker 5: Do up to nine over routinely, things like that.
Speaker 1: Now, you're not going to do it in a school zone,
Speaker 1: You're not going to do it in bed weather, You're
Speaker 1: not going to do it when it'd be dangerous. But
Speaker 1: that's probably what the typical person does in highway talking
Speaker 1: to highway conditions, that's not what I'm talking about here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about here, and you know
Speaker 1: it's exploding across Colorado.
Speaker 5: So do you support that? I think it's way overdue.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine a ballot measure in Colorado on that
Speaker 5: probably be ninety ten in favor. Let's go to Morrison, Colorado.
Speaker 5: Talk to either d or Denise. You're on the Dame
Speaker 5: Kapitala show. Welcome, hid is welcome, sir.
Speaker 2: My mom only gave me one end. So but that's
Speaker 2: a French way of spelling it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it truly is a Kelly, My apologies, I thought
Speaker 1: you misspelled it.
Speaker 5: You're a one end Dennis. Yes, holy cow, if every teacher,
Speaker 5: every everything you've ever signed up for people have said
Speaker 5: you misspelled your own name.
Speaker 2: Oh, I lived that since first grade when they passed
Speaker 2: stuff back at Catholic school and call me Denise.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If anything, if I ever received any document and it
Speaker 2: was spelled wrong with two ends, my mom was there
Speaker 2: banging on their door because that's the Catholica. That's it's
Speaker 2: I'm named after Saint Dennis.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, I would have lost that question. But is this
Speaker 1: like a boy named Sue? Did your mom do it
Speaker 1: for that reason, just to make it tough?
Speaker 2: Well, I think I've told you in the past. My
Speaker 2: mom was a police officer in nineteen forty five. She's
Speaker 2: already done Pasadena, California. She right raised seven kids and
Speaker 2: sent us all the Catholic school and you know what,
Speaker 2: we've all toed the line. So you're a wonderful woman.
Speaker 1: You got to write a book about her.
Speaker 2: I could probably write an encyclopedia. Shee was a wonderful woman.
Speaker 5: Wow. Cool, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Well, I live up I've got a Morrison address. I
Speaker 2: live closer to Conifer, and we lost a couple earlier
Speaker 2: this week and they head on collision down I think
Speaker 2: near the Morrison Bridge. And they owned they owned a
Speaker 2: food truck up here called the Abide Ride, and they
Speaker 2: were up here and they were in Bailey. They were
Speaker 2: really well known in the community and I left behind
Speaker 2: a twelve year old and they someone up here. They
Speaker 2: set up a GoFundMe page for them and your listeners.
Speaker 2: If they're looking for it, they can just google abide
Speaker 2: go fund me and it'll come up with.
Speaker 1: Them abid Yeah, okay, yes, no, Dennis. For those who
Speaker 1: haven't heard, I read this story. How did this crash happen?
Speaker 2: Well, somebody was going the wrong way up to eighty
Speaker 2: five and they hit them head on and they said
Speaker 2: their speed was an excess of one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: And and.
Speaker 5: Did the killer survive?
Speaker 2: I think so. They had to the fire department had
Speaker 2: to cut the car and have to get them out
Speaker 2: and both of them, both of them died at the hospital.
Speaker 5: So sad. And to go fund me again because we're
Speaker 5: about to break the gofund me again.
Speaker 2: Is it's it's they could go Google abide ride go
Speaker 2: fund me.
Speaker 1: Great, Dennis, thank you for the call, and we need
Speaker 1: to continue this conversation. I don't know the particulars there,
Speaker 1: but but what do we need to do with these penalties?
Speaker 1: Right because we see vehicular homicide in a lot of
Speaker 1: crashes like that that we talk about, and very very
Speaker 1: often those jail sentences are not very long, and don't
Speaker 1: blame the courts, blame the legislature. Very often those jail
Speaker 1: sentences are not very long. But do we need to
Speaker 1: have a mandatory, a mandatory of at least a year
Speaker 1: for vehicular homicide across the board in Colorado? What do
Speaker 1: we need to do with our traffic laws to start
Speaker 1: protecting ourselves from these killers? And they are killers, They're
Speaker 1: just killers on the highway here on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 9: If they cut a deal, what should appears that they're
Speaker 9: trying to do with Julane Maxwell. Of course that will
Speaker 9: not be satisfactory to people, because she's part of the
Speaker 9: problem and how could you possibly trust her? And so
Speaker 9: he's got to deal. He's got to find a way
Speaker 9: out that would be satisfactory to a group of people,
Speaker 9: a MAGA base, voters who feel like this is one
Speaker 9: of the crimes of the century.
Speaker 1: I think that Sam Stein from The Daily Beast is
Speaker 1: wrong there. I think that if and he's missing a
Speaker 1: key step. If DJ as it appears they're in the
Speaker 1: process of doing cuts a deal with Maxwell where she
Speaker 1: helps the prosecution of a large number of people involved
Speaker 1: in these child rapes, and her help is material, and
Speaker 1: they succeed in arrests and convictions. You know, at that point,
Speaker 1: I think that would that would greatly satisfy you know,
Speaker 1: let's start with those in the President's base who feels
Speaker 1: like I do, that we need to get We need
Speaker 1: to get much, much, much much more of the truth
Speaker 1: on Epstein. Now, listen, I understand there's information regarding victims
Speaker 1: that victims may not want released. There's going to be
Speaker 1: information regarding people in Epstein's orbit who weren't involved in
Speaker 1: any crimes.
Speaker 5: We have to protect the innocent.
Speaker 1: But we need much more information regarding the guilty, and
Speaker 1: as a practical matter, the only way you're going to
Speaker 1: get that is probably through Maxwell. And so she's obviously
Speaker 1: trying to use that leverage right now. And I think
Speaker 1: it's a way that President Trump could come out of
Speaker 1: this in a very very strong position, as if his
Speaker 1: DOJ engineers that deal. And there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people brought down with her testimony, people who should be
Speaker 1: brought down. Now, listen, I'm the guy who told you
Speaker 1: before this idea han't her testify before Congress. The danger
Speaker 1: in that, obviously is even though she'd be under oath,
Speaker 1: the danger in that is she could just make stuff
Speaker 1: up and destroy people who didn't deserve to be destroyed.
Speaker 1: If you're operating now in a DOJ context where she's
Speaker 1: offering this offer of what she'd be able to give
Speaker 1: them in the course of prosecutions, and it turns out
Speaker 1: to be real and it leads to convictions, then that's
Speaker 1: a much different thing, much more valuable, much more important,
Speaker 1: much more credible, and much less likely to catch the
Speaker 1: innocent up in the fervor of the moment. Three oh
Speaker 1: three seven, one, three eight, two five five the number.
Speaker 1: So I expect that's where this is headed. And I
Speaker 1: think anything that can lead to more prosecutions of more
Speaker 1: child rapists we need to do. Giving Maxwell even a
Speaker 1: single day offer sentence, it really really bothers me because
Speaker 1: she's guilty directly or indirectly. In my view, she's guilty
Speaker 1: of mass child rape. Randy and Thornton, you're on the
Speaker 1: dan Kaplas. She'll welcome, Hey, Randy. Randy may be thinking deeply,
Speaker 1: which is always encouraged on this show. What we're really
Speaker 1: focused on right now and thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: Is this epidemic we've been talking about a lot on
Speaker 1: the show. I just read another version of it. It
Speaker 1: seems like there's a new story every day, and for
Speaker 1: every story reported of somebody off and young, but it
Speaker 1: can be any age, somebody driving, you know, one hundred,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty, one hundred and fifty driving fifty
Speaker 1: miles over the speed limit.
Speaker 5: Often these end and death, serious injury.
Speaker 1: But we've got another version of this story where how
Speaker 1: many times do you see it a week where okay,
Speaker 1: please stop, somebody going one hundred and thirty, one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty going eighty over the limit. It's time for
Speaker 1: this state to start protecting its children, start protecting the
Speaker 1: people we care about. It's time for this date to
Speaker 1: start hammering these reckless drivers mandatory jail, losing the license
Speaker 1: for a long time. So my question to you is,
Speaker 1: at what speed would you draw the line. Let's say
Speaker 1: that it's one of those where, thank god, nobody's injured
Speaker 1: or killed and there's no property damage.
Speaker 5: It's somebody busted going over X speed. At what point.
Speaker 1: Would you kick in mandatory loss of license for a year,
Speaker 1: mandatory week in jail. What would that speed be? And
Speaker 1: then let's talk about other areas. Do we now need
Speaker 1: at least a one year actually behind by our minimum
Speaker 1: for vehicular homicide? What about vehicular celt Because I'm telling
Speaker 1: you this is what I've done for a living for
Speaker 1: forty plus years. Is the civil side, the money damage
Speaker 1: a side of these catastrophic cases. And I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell you would be you would be blowing away, you
Speaker 1: would be furious, you'd be thrown up mad if you knew,
Speaker 1: if you knew how light, how light the penalties are
Speaker 1: under existing Colorado law for people who even go out
Speaker 1: and kill behind the wheel, and don't blame the judges,
Speaker 1: don't blame the prosecutors in most cases. Now, some prosecutors
Speaker 1: you can blame, especially in these you know, far left
Speaker 1: sorrows type prosecution offices. And we've talked a lot about,
Speaker 1: you know what Amy Padden did in that case where
Speaker 1: this precious, innocent twenty four year old girl or was
Speaker 1: killed by this teenager driving ninety in a residential area.
Speaker 5: And and he he.
Speaker 1: Gets a deal, I think, if I remember correctly, in
Speaker 1: the end, with just probation and maybe some community service. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but generally speaking, the problem is the laws themselves. So
Speaker 1: where would you draw that line? Three or three seven, one,
Speaker 1: three eight, two five five?
Speaker 5: The number?
Speaker 4: Hey, yes, ma'am, I do have a question permission to speak.
Speaker 5: Since when I need permissions and you should never need permissions.
Speaker 4: But you have defended so many victims in these speeding
Speaker 4: cases overly speeding. Would you say speeding could be considered
Speaker 4: a drug?
Speaker 1: Wow? What an interesting question, Kelly. As always, why do
Speaker 1: people do this?
Speaker 2: You know? What?
Speaker 1: Why do the people who go out there and drive
Speaker 1: fifty over seventy five over, whether they kill somebody or not,
Speaker 1: why do they do it? You know, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: I think many do it because they're on drugs. I mean,
Speaker 1: many of these situations we see now. I think there's
Speaker 1: been explosion to this since legalization of marijuana and Colorado
Speaker 1: became known as the State of Drugs rather than the
Speaker 1: state of health. But some of this one on before then, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure for some it's kind of an intoxicating high.
Speaker 1: I can tell you in my cases, and I have
Speaker 1: a lot of them, and I have a lot of
Speaker 1: them right now that fit this mode. It's a mix
Speaker 1: of things. Often there's some level of impairments. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just the thrill. But here's the common denominator, Kelly, to
Speaker 1: your good question, at least in my forty years of
Speaker 1: representing victims, is in each and every one of these cases,
Speaker 1: there is an absolute total disregard for innocent human life.
Speaker 1: They could not care less. They could not care less.
Speaker 1: That's the common denominator. But and we know this right
Speaker 1: to stop it, that to stop it, it's a matter
Speaker 1: of lots more support for law enforcement, lots more law
Speaker 1: enforcement out there on the road to enforce because right now,
Speaker 1: these reckless drivers know the chance of being caught is
Speaker 1: very slim unless they do crash, which they do way
Speaker 1: too often, and the penalties, the penalties have to be
Speaker 1: amped up enormously.
Speaker 5: So, Kelly, where would you draw that line?
Speaker 1: At what speed does somebody just automatically you lose that
Speaker 1: license for a year and you're going to jail for
Speaker 1: at least a week. Well, that assumes no crash.
Speaker 4: I honestly, I am so bewildered by the fact that
Speaker 4: I see so many of these motorcyclists, these bullet bikes.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't always end there. It's also different cars
Speaker 4: that are souped up, and they don't they run red lights.
Speaker 4: This is happening quite a lot. Yeah, And I mean
Speaker 4: you have often, you know, told everyone you know make
Speaker 4: sure that you look both ways, which I have adopted.
Speaker 1: In well before leaving a green light when it turns
Speaker 1: don't as soon you can go exactly.
Speaker 4: But I would say to your point about bringing up
Speaker 4: the fifteen year old who stole the mom's car killed
Speaker 4: the twenty four year old who was going over one
Speaker 4: hundred and a forty five, that should immediately engender Yeah, license.
Speaker 5: I don't think he had a license, So what are
Speaker 5: you going to do?
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, he should be in jail for
Speaker 4: the rest of his life, but Amy Patton put him
Speaker 4: in probition.
Speaker 1: Texter Dan Texter disagrees with me in that thinks I'm
Speaker 1: being too tough. A week in jail and a year's
Speaker 1: suspension for one hundred miles plus no, no, needs to
Speaker 1: be a minimum of one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 5: See, I just disagree with that.
Speaker 1: So much of this carnage out there right now is
Speaker 1: happening between ninety and and one hundred, one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten plus. Uh, you can commit that there can be
Speaker 1: horrific carnage at forty.
Speaker 5: Miles an hour.
Speaker 1: So depending on the circumstances there three or three seven, one, three, eight, two,
Speaker 1: five five go to more texters at d an five, seven,
Speaker 1: seven through nine. The other issue we've mixed in is
Speaker 1: Glade Maxwell looks like they're in the process of working
Speaker 1: out a cooperation deal with her. A under any circumstances,
Speaker 1: should she be pardoned? And I say absolutely not. A
Speaker 1: B would you allow her to walk out of jail
Speaker 1: still a convict, et cetera? Walk out of jail if
Speaker 1: she's going to help put others away, other child rapists
Speaker 1: away who operated in Epstein's orbit and with Epstein, et cetera,
Speaker 1: how many should.
Speaker 5: She have to be able to put away to be
Speaker 5: able to get out of jail. You're on the Dan.
Speaker 7: Capla Show, and now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1: It's a matter of self preservation now and protecting our children, family,
Speaker 1: everything we love. If you haven't noticed, and I know
Speaker 1: you have, killers have taken over this state and they're
Speaker 1: on the roadways, and the left is undermine law enforcement,
Speaker 1: so we have very little enforcement on the roadways anymore.
Speaker 1: And the killers have noticed and They don't care about
Speaker 1: your life, or your children or anybody else, and they
Speaker 1: prove it every day. So they've made clear what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do, and what are we gonna do? What are
Speaker 1: we gonna do to protect the people we love, starting
Speaker 1: with our children? And if we don't do anything, then
Speaker 1: we're not men, We're mice. We're not women, we're what what?
Speaker 1: What's the corollary for that?
Speaker 5: Ryan?
Speaker 1: But the point being that we got to stand up
Speaker 1: for ourselves. And these laws have to change dramatically and
Speaker 1: there have to be much tougher penalties and mandatory minimums.
Speaker 5: What should that look like?
Speaker 1: Three O three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 1: text d A N five seven seven three nine. Let's
Speaker 1: go to David in beautiful Colorado Springs. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kaplo Show. Welcome David.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man?
Speaker 5: I'm living the dream? How about you?
Speaker 10: I'm gonna be a devil's advocate add in the grid
Speaker 10: the same time. Okay, it's first off, they're so young
Speaker 10: and dumb. We've all made dumb mistakes and unfortunately this
Speaker 10: is serious. But giving them a week in jail, give
Speaker 10: them six months, that's just a bunch of crying but
Speaker 10: I think that they the judge that sends improbation, but
Speaker 10: no cell phone, no nothing, because that's where they get hurt.
Speaker 10: You take their cell phone.
Speaker 5: How do you enforce it, Well.
Speaker 10: Youve got to You've got to hope the parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, let's zero in on your on your
Speaker 1: really important point about so often these people are young
Speaker 1: and dumb, and and what I'd say to that is
Speaker 1: you're right, but wait, First of all, that doesn't give
Speaker 1: them a right to kill. Second, you don't want them killed.
Speaker 1: So I think the penalties have to be so severe
Speaker 1: that it will penetrate, permeate that that within you know,
Speaker 1: high school, say people will understand and oh man, no
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. Or if somebody's a
Speaker 1: passenger in the car, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: You're going to lose your license for two years, or
Speaker 1: you're going to lose your license for three years, or
Speaker 1: it's mandatory jail. We've got to do something so shocked
Speaker 1: and aw dramatic that that message sinks in. But David,
Speaker 1: thank you for your point about the young, and very
Speaker 1: often that is a case but no excuse, right, and
Speaker 1: so often they're killing other young people, whether they're passengers
Speaker 1: in the car or other young people they hit Dan.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, writes a text. Or I had
Speaker 1: a motorcycle, I would go out late at night, take
Speaker 1: the thing one hundred and eighty to two hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour down empty freeways because it was a thrill,
Speaker 1: adrenaline boost, etc. And then it goes on from there,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's a common story. I can remember
Speaker 1: once when I was single and I was driving out
Speaker 1: to California to cover the Rodney King case. And I
Speaker 1: was on a remote stretch of highway and you taw nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody as far as the eye could see, and I
Speaker 1: went way too fast, and I thank god that something
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Then I know it was extremely stupid. I
Speaker 1: get all of that, but that's still no excuse. We've
Speaker 1: got to have those mandatory minimums. Brad in Highlands, Ray
Speaker 1: and you're on the Dan Kaplas, She'll welcome.
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan, how are you doing today, good man?
Speaker 7: Thank you awesome.
Speaker 2: I got a.
Speaker 3: Texta story for you. It might help Colorado lawmakers, and
Speaker 3: I'll pass the word around to the lawmakers that I
Speaker 3: know in the state of Texas. Back in the late eighties,
Speaker 3: if you were doing over one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 3: imagine the speed limit on the interstate was about fifty five.
Speaker 3: If you were doing over one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 3: they impounded your car. They crushed it and gave it
Speaker 3: back to you and gave you a ticket for littering
Speaker 3: if you didn't come and pick up your crushed car.
Speaker 5: We need something like that. That's what we need, Brad.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It actually happened to a friend of mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he lost his car, got crushed and got
Speaker 3: a ticket for littering in the state of tech.
Speaker 5: I love that. It's something dramatic like that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brad gets everybody's attention and your friend owes
Speaker 1: them a debt of gratitude, right, because what are the
Speaker 1: chances your friend would have ended up then killing himself,
Speaker 1: or if you didn't kill himself, killed somebody else. And yeah, Dad,
Speaker 1: one hundred miles in town is insanity. One hundred on
Speaker 1: I seventy east of Strasbourg and a new Corvette I
Speaker 1: don't own one when there's not another current site should
Speaker 1: get a hefty fine. But you weren't in danger in anyone.
Speaker 1: Don't think that needs jail time for one hundred. Certainly
Speaker 1: for one fifty, the line should be somewhere in between,
Speaker 1: and based on location, fifty in a twenty when kids
Speaker 1: are on the sidewalk should be jail time. That's a
Speaker 1: very thoughtful, beautifully written text. And so yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the law can be set up that way, but we
Speaker 1: do need I think we need that magic number of
Speaker 1: one hundred out there.
Speaker 5: I really do. And I think it needs to apply
Speaker 5: to highways as well.
Speaker 1: And believe me, I understand the Corvette example and that
Speaker 1: brief shining moment in time when I had a new Corvette,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if it had gone over that number.
Speaker 1: But that's no excuse, right, So I think we need
Speaker 1: that magic number personally, we need that magic number everywhere.
Speaker 1: And then they've got to be mandatory minimums. You know,
Speaker 1: you lose the license for X period of time and
Speaker 1: you go to jail for X period of time. We've
Speaker 1: got to do something dramatic there and then crank it up,
Speaker 1: as the Texter says for stuff inside town. Dan, if
Speaker 1: we're going to change speeding behavior, it should apply it
Speaker 1: twenty miles over the speed limit.
Speaker 5: What do you think about that. How often are you
Speaker 5: twenty miles over?
Speaker 7: Ryan? Was it again?
Speaker 5: How often are you twenty miles over the speed limit?
Speaker 7: Twenty over?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Not very often.
Speaker 6: I mean, so, okay, I'm going let's say south on
Speaker 6: twenty five out of town past Castle Rock and it.
Speaker 7: Goes up to seventy five.
Speaker 6: I don't think I could go ninety five though, I
Speaker 6: don't think I've gone even ninety.
Speaker 7: I'll break eighty somewhere in their eighty two bus fast
Speaker 7: I go.
Speaker 1: You know what, one of the challenges is some of
Speaker 1: these new cars, and they don't have to be a big,
Speaker 1: fancy expensive cars. Some of these new cars, you don't
Speaker 1: think you're going that fast, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you get done. Now, Now, what we've got going on
Speaker 1: with the killers out there right is they're intentionally driving
Speaker 1: that fast. Whether it's for the thrill or something else potentially,
Speaker 1: but one way or the other, A lot of cars, now,
Speaker 1: you know, get up around ninety and it doesn't even
Speaker 1: feel like it, but it's just as lethal.
Speaker 5: Dan, Is it just a coincidence?
Speaker 1: Rights a text to dam five seven seven three nine
Speaker 1: that the amount of vehicles with expired or no license
Speaker 1: plates has exploded in the Denver Metro once we announce
Speaker 1: we are a sanctuary state, and then it goes on
Speaker 1: from there. Listen, the sanctuary state thing is insane. It's
Speaker 1: so wrong on every level. And sure that's part of it.
Speaker 1: But what I submit to you here is this comes
Speaker 1: back to the left undermining law enforcement, which means there's
Speaker 1: very little enforcement on.
Speaker 5: The roadways compared to what there used to be.
Speaker 1: Don't blame you know, they're the great men and women
Speaker 1: in blue who blame the politicians. But that's the reality,
Speaker 1: and I think that leads to a lot more no plates,
Speaker 1: expired plates, et cetera here on the Denkempt shop