WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.759 It is The Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of The 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:09.800 Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday. So you know 3 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:11.880 what's about to come up this hour. I'll get to 4 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:13.919 that here in a few I should let you know 5 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:19.760 in hour three there's some hopeful signs on the horizon 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:24.440 about all this advancement in technology AI. I'll tell you 7 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:28.760 about something hopeful something terrible about the GOP. We'll again 8 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:33.079 talk at least briefly about influencer campaigns. It looks like 9 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:36.960 we've got some impeachments coming down the pike. Emails, all that, 10 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:40.119 so much more coming up in the third hour of 11 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:45.640 The Jesse Kelly Show. But it's hour two, and as promised, 12 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:48.359 we are now going to pick up where we left 13 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:52.640 off last night and continue our history, a history not 14 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:58.359 many people know about the Rhodesian Bush War. If you 15 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.119 missed a lot of the bad background, and so much 16 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.760 of it was background, It was tribal stuff. And if 17 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.599 you miss that, I don't have time to recap it 18 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.040 for you. Now we must move on in the story. 19 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:16.599 iHeart Spotify iTunes. You can go download the podcast. It's 20 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.400 all free. There's no charge for any of this. Our 21 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.159 two of last night. We gave a lot of the background. 22 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:28.079 Your thirty second to one minute background. Is this. A 23 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.920 man named Cecil Rhodes grabbed a bunch of miners, other people, yes, 24 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:37.200 women and children, walked into a tribal land, a tribal 25 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:42.120 land that had stuff he wanted. They started to mine there. 26 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.040 There were two historically there were more, but two main 27 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:50.159 rival tribes there who'd hated each other and slaid each other, 28 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.480 slaughtered each other, raped each other, and burned each other 29 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.599 alive for a very long time. At some point they 30 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.280 did it in front of the Europeans. There was a 31 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:03.519 big uprising. The Europeans were mortified by such savagery, and 32 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:06.760 they stepped up and they said, okay, this place is 33 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:11.280 kind of ours. Now this is done. You all, you people, 34 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:16.159 you tribes, you tribesmen, you go over there. You other tribesmen, 35 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:22.439 you go over there. Now, this is what colonization looked 36 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.840 like a lot of the time. We're about to lay 37 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:30.120 it out for the British Empire. Remember when your history 38 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:35.800 professor in college was whining and crying about colonialism. That's 39 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:39.199 actually kind of a ridiculous term because there are so 40 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:43.879 many different ways to quote colonize. A country. And let's 41 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:50.400 be honest right now, colonization is simply a more peaceful 42 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.479 form of conquest. That's what it is. So let's just 43 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.520 call it all conquest, shall we. There is a spectrum, 44 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:03.039 isn't there? We could go with the old. Well, the 45 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:07.639 easiest one would be Genghis Khan form of conquest. Hey, 46 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.560 I really like your lands. I think I shall take 47 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:16.039 my gigantic army in there and i will slaughter every man, 48 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.680 woman and child. I'll even send a rearguard back to 49 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.919 your city to ensure I killed all the pets, and 50 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.080 then I'll move in. That is obviously an extreme end 51 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:31.360 of that spectrum, but that's how conquest has been done. 52 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:37.439 Then there are other types. The French. The French would 53 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.639 be more likely to kind of not really move in, 54 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:44.520 but trade with you, right, They'll provide security, they'll trade 55 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:48.840 with you. The Spanish. The Spanish were about as hands 56 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.680 off with so much of their conquest as you can be. 57 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.639 And I know about the Spanish conquest of Mexico and whatnot, 58 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.360 but the Spanish and all their colonization or conquest, they 59 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.560 really just kind of wanted the gold. Hey, just give 60 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.560 me some gold. Do you have any gold. I'll take 61 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:08.159 some gold. The British, in my opinion, did it smarter 62 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:12.159 than anyone else, because here's what the British always believed 63 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:17.079 about conquering colonizing any place. The British believed that you 64 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:21.120 should move in. They believe that possession was nine tenths 65 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.839 of the law. And you can't ever really grab control 66 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.519 of a place just by sending emissaries from Afar and 67 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.759 picking up a shipment of gold along the coast. No, 68 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:37.959 you needed your people physically building homes and schools and roads. 69 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.759 You need your people moving in and setting up shop. 70 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.279 But wait, there's more. I don't want to make it 71 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:51.040 sound all bad if you're against conquest. They also believed 72 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:58.160 in integrating the local population as you moved in. The 73 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.480 Brits did not want to lot or everybody. They actually 74 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.439 didn't want to send everyone away as refugees. And we're 75 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.720 talking about this spot in Africa Africa here, but Britain 76 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.240 did this in many other places. They wanted to find 77 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.240 a way where, Yes, they took over. I'm not making 78 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.639 them sound completely magnanimous here. They wanted to take over, 79 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.000 but they also wanted to Hey, all these tribes and 80 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.079 things like that, look will help you out too. How 81 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.920 About how about some clothes, how about a job, how 82 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.839 about access to medicine, how about how let's let's help 83 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.439 let us help you too. You are gonna work for 84 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.920 us like you're gonna work under us. Let's be honest, 85 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.800 but we're gonna help each other here. Your life will 86 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.439 be better. And I don't want to act as if 87 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.920 they did this just out of the kindness of their hearts. 88 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.759 Of course there'd be some of that, but really for 89 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:55.480 the Brits, and this is why I think it was 90 00:05:55.519 --> 00:06:00.000 so brilliant, it just made more sense. We want to 91 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.079 take the place, we want to take it over. Slaughtering 92 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.439 everybody generally doesn't work. It's hard to do, it's hard 93 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.600 to maintain. As we've talked about before in the show, 94 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:10.959 you can't really kill your way out of a problem. 95 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:16.040 Usually that's difficult. But if you can somehow make the 96 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:21.160 people you're conquering, make their day to day lives better, 97 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.360 then you have to deal with a lot less rebellion, 98 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.639 a lot fewer problems. They might even go along with it, 99 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:32.839 And in fact, Rhodesia eventually we're not quite there yet. 100 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.920 Rhodesia kind of gets to that place for a while. 101 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.199 But right now we are post this little tribal war. 102 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:46.160 The English are mortified. The Europeans in Zimbabwe are mortified, 103 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.519 and they say, Okay, enough is enough. Now it's ours. 104 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.920 But what does it's ours mean? Well, let's talk about 105 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.600 what it was before the Europeans got there. As you know, 106 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.120 tribal lands. But what does that mean tribal lands? Well, 107 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:03.120 a tribe, at least these tribes, the way they worked, 108 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.560 they would find some remote area, well it's all remote 109 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.839 and there's no civilization. They'd find an area that had 110 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.560 things they needed. And what does every tribe need? Every 111 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.959 tribe needs some way to eat. Maybe you're a hunting tribe. 112 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.839 Maybe you do agriculture. Every tribe needs water. Let's find 113 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:24.439 a river, let's find something. Tribes are going to find 114 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.319 locations that work for them, and that's where they're going 115 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.800 to build their village, their huts. That's how it's going 116 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:39.240 to work. And in many ways, the tribes were extremely isolated. 117 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.360 The villages were isolated from each other. These were people 118 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:48.000 who didn't build roads, they didn't have the wheel. You 119 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.800 as a young boy, I mentioned the two tribes yesterday. 120 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:55.879 I'll mention them again. These Shona and the Indo Belly 121 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.879 and by the way, the Indibelly go buy several names. 122 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.560 I'm just calling them into belly, the Shona in the 123 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.759 end of belly. If you were a young boy, you 124 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.879 were born in this village, this Indobelly village, there is 125 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:13.040 a reasonable chance you never left. Yeah, you would go 126 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.040 out and you would go hunt, or maybe you would 127 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.399 go to war or something like that. But you certainly 128 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:22.160 didn't bounce around the country. We modern day people, certainly 129 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.319 modern day Americans. Anyone, anyone living in a first world 130 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:29.480 country listening to me right now, you've been on a 131 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.559 road trip. How abnout you? Maybe you still live in 132 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:37.279 your hometown, but you know what a place one hundred 133 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.440 miles from you looks like, don't you? Of course you're 134 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:43.600 almost probably scoffing and laughing. Of course everyone does. Maybe 135 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.039 you've even been on a plane. That way of thinking 136 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:53.480 is totally foreign to these people who live in this area. 137 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:56.879 What's one of the very first things the Europeans start 138 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.840 to do. Roads, They start to build roads, they start 139 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:06.320 to build train tracks. Why well, they're moving goods and 140 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:12.159 services and people to and fro and now they're connecting 141 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:18.879 villages that had previously never been connected before. The African 142 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:22.519 people in some time, in some ways they're moving to 143 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:27.440 and fro in ways they've never moved before. And in 144 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:31.600 some ways they're getting run out of an area. If 145 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.440 the English, if the europe let's stop calling them English, 146 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.320 because there were people from all over the European world. 147 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:42.080 If the Europeans wanted that area, remember they decided they 148 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:47.039 were in charge now they said you need to leave. Well, 149 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.639 they were also integrating the local population, as I mentioned, 150 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.960 they tried to do that. They really believed in doing that. 151 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:00.000 Let's find a way to weave these people into our society. 152 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.799 And I remember there weren't very many Europeans at the time, 153 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.799 not very many at all. There were way outnumbered by 154 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:13.039 the tribesmen. So crime, for instance, you don't have this 155 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.360 large European police force, what do you do for cops? 156 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:24.000 Every area needs cops. Well, that can create problems if 157 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.720 you don't understand the area you're taking over. We'll get 158 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.279 to those problems in a moment. It is the Jesse 159 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.639 Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Wednesday, a hump Day, 160 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.039 doing part two of our history of the Rhodesian Bush War. 161 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.679 Remember you can email us your love, your hate, your 162 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.240 death threats Jesse at jesse kellyshow dot com. The Europeans 163 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.639 are starting to take over. They're starting to build roads, 164 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.240 they're starting to build trains. They're starting to connect African 165 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.039 villages that have never been connected before. They're starting to 166 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:59.080 run Africans out of certain places. Now, this is where, 167 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:01.840 this is why I keep bringing up the two tribes, 168 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:05.679 because these two tribes, the fact that there are two 169 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:10.000 tribes who hate each other, is always going to come 170 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.720 into play in this entire story, right up to the 171 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.519 horrible brutal ending of it. Not to give the whole 172 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:22.399 thing away. Remember before these guys even got here, the 173 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.759 Shona had been conquered by the end of Belly. They 174 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.080 were slaves under the end of Belly. Those kinds of 175 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.440 hard feelings don't go away easily. And the Europeans just 176 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:40.200 got there, they just arrived five minutes ago. It's hard 177 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:45.440 to understand everything about the culture you're conquering. It's hard 178 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:50.840 to understand old tribal rivalries and bad blood. It's hard 179 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.159 to understand the religious significance, different significance of different things, 180 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.639 for instance, And this is going to come into play 181 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.720 for virtually all these tribes. You know what was really 182 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.759 a currency for them, almost a sacred level of currency, 183 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:10.559 a status symbol. Cattle. How many cattle do how many 184 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.519 cows do you have? You have a lot of cattle. 185 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.679 Oh you've only got three? Oh that sucks, Chris, I've 186 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.960 got five. Must suck to be so low class. I mean, 187 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.480 you're laughing, But that's how that's how it worked. If 188 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:24.840 you were a king, part of that status would be 189 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.759 look at all of our cattle. Well what are cattle 190 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.120 to the Europeans at this point in time? Just what 191 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.840 they're beef? It's beef or its milk. It's no big deal. 192 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.679 You raise them, you kill them, whatever. It's just one 193 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:40.080 of those things they didn't quite get. They also needed 194 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.279 a police force, and they're trying to integrate the local tribes. 195 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:48.120 But let me ask you something. Do you ever have 196 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:53.279 any bad blood in your family? Every family has it, 197 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:58.240 maybe even in your town, a rival town, a rival family. Arrival, 198 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:02.960 this arrival that I want you to imagine this when 199 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:06.000 it comes to Zimbabwe that we're talking about right now. 200 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:12.120 Let's say your people, your people had historically kept the 201 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:18.759 Shona as slaves and slavery, remember, was not touchy feely, 202 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:25.279 not at all ugly things for women children. Let's just 203 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:30.600 say maybe your mother had been a slave of the indobelly. 204 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:36.360 You're now twenty five years old. Your mother raised you 205 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.399 with those stories of what the indibelly did to them. 206 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:45.720 The Europeans knock on the door of your hut and 207 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:53.639 they're handing you a policeman's uniform because now you are 208 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:59.080 going to help police some of the indobelly areas and 209 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:03.759 you have the power power of law enforcement behind your badge. 210 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.879 You don't have some oath you take or even believe in. 211 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:12.759 You're a tribesman who's historically been at war, and that 212 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:18.039 tribe has historically abused your family, and now you're about 213 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.440 to get a weapon and two or three of your 214 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.720 cop buddies and you're about to walk into their area. 215 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:31.240 Do you think there would be any temptation to abuse 216 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:38.279 that kind of power. This happened often. The Europeans were 217 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:43.639 having and will always have such a difficult time keeping 218 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.720 the tribes separate from each other, understanding the depth of 219 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:54.120 hatred they have for each other. There was African police abuse, 220 00:14:54.159 --> 00:15:00.399 African on African police abuse all over the place, bind 221 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.240 that with this. I already talked about historically how these 222 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.559 tribes work. They lived in their little villages. Now they're 223 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:12.360 being moved onto what are essentially reservations. They're getting moved 224 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:17.360 away from their historic homelands. They're not thrilled about it. Now, 225 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:21.000 let's add one more element to it. And this is 226 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.000 a long complicated affair. For the sake of not having 227 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:26.799 this be a ten episode thing, I'm fast forwarding through 228 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:31.519 some things. There gets to be a plague with the cows. 229 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:36.360 What do the Europeans do when there is a cow plague? 230 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.279 They do what any civilized society would do, and they 231 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.559 start to kill the cows. I just got done explaining 232 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:51.720 cows are sacred to these people, a status symbol to 233 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:55.679 these people. As a European, you may have everyone's best 234 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:59.200 interests at heart. When you send a few guys onto 235 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.879 somebody's life land and shoot twenty of his cows in 236 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:08.240 the head, he is almost undoubtedly going to interpret that 237 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:16.960 act differently than you do. It's bad. Rebellion breaks out. 238 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:23.000 Rebellion breaks out. In fact, you should know. I won't 239 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.080 tell you the name of it, because it's another detail 240 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.799 I'm already drowning you in details. But they consider the 241 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.799 Rhodesian Bush War to be the second version of this rebellion. 242 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.080 That's what they call it. This is the first of 243 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:41.399 these rebellions. The tribes rise up, they rebel They are 244 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.759 not as technologically advanced. They do, however, have the numbers. 245 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:52.360 It's slaughter, it's destruction. They're doing things like one miner. 246 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.240 He had worked with ten Africans on a mine for 247 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:59.679 a long time. He then found himself with them crawling 248 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.080 into the mind trying to beat him to death one night. 249 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.119 There are some stories I'll tell you in a moment. 250 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.759 We'll be back. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 251 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.240 a Wonderful Wednesday, talking about the land down under Africa tonight. 252 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.880 As we go, quit what, Chris, I'm not a geologist, 253 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.039 all right, I don't know everything. All right. Back to 254 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.559 our history of the Rhodesian Bush War. The Europeans had 255 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.400 set up the trains, they'd set up the villages. The 256 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.440 tribes were hating each other. The tribes were not liking 257 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.240 this European rule, and they broke out in rebellion. Now, 258 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.279 this is nothing like the rebellion that will happen during 259 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:44.519 the Rhodesian Bush War. This is completely disorganized. There aren't 260 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.680 any central leaders. And remember the two tribes hate each 261 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.240 other as much as they hate the Europeans. So what 262 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.279 does this rebellion look like? It sounds horrifying, but it's 263 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:02.960 essentially small areas where panic gets inflamed, anger gets inflamed, 264 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:11.279 and it's oftentimes led by local religious leaders, local tribal 265 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.319 religious leaders, you know, all these weird tribal false religions. 266 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:20.480 Local religious leaders would get their local area to rise 267 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:25.000 up against the white invaders, the European invaders. I told 268 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.279 you briefly about that story of the miner. Well you 269 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:30.880 know how most of that story went. He walked out 270 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.400 of his house to find ten Africans who he had 271 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.279 worked with on the mine, not slaves or something like that, 272 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:39.559 you know, working with them every day lunch wages. That 273 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:45.400 there were co workers with war clubs. This animal manages 274 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.200 to wrestle one of the war clubs from him. They 275 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.319 start beating him. He starts swinging back and beating them. 276 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.279 He makes his way all the way into the mind 277 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.119 shaft where he rolls down into the mind shaft, and 278 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.160 then he has more miners in the mind shaft who 279 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.000 he's worked with who he thinks will come to his aid, 280 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:09.119 and they start beating him too. He starts fighting them off. 281 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:12.759 He's fighting his way through the mines. These things happen. 282 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:17.799 In another incident, two guys are sitting there, there are 283 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.440 women and children hidden behind them, and the tribesmen have 284 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.759 surrounded the mine and they are essentially getting ready to 285 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.839 kill everyone in it. The two dudes make a break 286 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.200 for it. What are they making a break for. They're 287 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.880 going for the telegraph line so they can telegraph for 288 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.720 help so the women and children won't die. They book it, 289 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.839 one of them, actually both of them end up making 290 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:47.920 it the entire way to the telegraph hut. One holds 291 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.839 the door closed from the angry tribesman behind him, while 292 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.359 the other gets on the telegraph machine and telegraphs the 293 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.880 message out. Eventually, the door is kicked down and both 294 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:05.000 men die with African spears sticking out from all over 295 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:10.440 their bodies. This is taking place all across Zimbabwe at 296 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.160 this time, but as I said, it is not unified. 297 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:20.240 It is poorly led. And eventually the Europeans raise for themselves, 298 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.480 or that I should say, they get back their army. 299 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:24.599 It's a long story. I won't go into Most of 300 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.519 their fighting men had gone to fight somewhere else and 301 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:31.319 they'd been captured. They get their fighting men, and their 302 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:35.119 fighting men are organized, and they are well led, and 303 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:38.640 they start to put this rebellion down. They put it 304 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.720 down to such effect. The rebels are now starving. The 305 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:47.039 rebels are hiding in caves, and the Europeans are dynamiting 306 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:51.400 rebels out of caves, dynamiting the entrance, starving them. And 307 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:57.519 there an or horrible, horrible, ugly affair. Cecil Rhodes, the 308 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:01.799 guy who started all this, He brings all the tribal 309 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:06.599 leaders together finally after a very vicious little war, and 310 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:12.759 he negotiates a peace because the tribes are starving. They're starving. 311 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:17.079 They're done. Only now, this is the problem with rebellion, 312 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:24.200 when you lose one. If you lose one, you are 313 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.640 always going to end up worse off than you were before. 314 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.880 If you're going to rebel, you better win. The whole 315 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.160 history of the world proves this to be the case. 316 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:38.480 It's almost weird when you look back and you wonder 317 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:42.000 why so many people rebelled. We're going to rebel against Babylon. 318 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.440 Oh no, we're all skinned alive. I mean it just 319 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.920 doesn't it doesn't work. Now they have no more control. 320 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:54.519 And now after the negotiated peace, now Britain is no 321 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:57.640 longer doing that. Well, it's not really our thing. It's 322 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:02.359 kind of a private enterprise thing. Nope, now this is 323 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.839 the nineteen twenties. Now Britain says no, no, no, no, no, 324 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.200 it's our country now. Now they even gave it a name, 325 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:16.920 South Rhodesia, by the way, in case you're wondering, Yes, 326 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:20.359 that name comes from the name Cecil Roads. And no 327 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.440 he didn't name it. In fact, he didn't even like 328 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:25.759 the name, which is weird. I've always wanted a country 329 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.440 named after me. That is not what he preferred at all, 330 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.519 but Rhodesia. Only at this point in time it's named 331 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:37.000 South Rhodesia. Let's fast forward just a little bit. They 332 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:40.640 are locking in their control of the area. They're building 333 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:44.599 whole cities. Now, they're trying to modernize this country as 334 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:49.319 possible in a long comes World War two. This part 335 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.960 is going to be important for our story as we 336 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.400 move along. I already told you the kind of people 337 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.839 last night, the kind of Europeans who came here. These 338 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.920 were not convicts. You just got out These were not 339 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:07.279 idiot's welfare recipients. In many ways, it was the cream 340 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.200 of the crop for Europeans and their children. They were 341 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.079 tough as nails as well, not these effeminate, you know, 342 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.160 pinky out people. Tough as nails. And they also had, 343 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.519 because there were so few of them in a country 344 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.640 that was so big, with so many bigger tribes, mandatory 345 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:29.000 military service for all the males if you were a 346 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.839 male in Rhodesia, by the way, and females, females were 347 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:35.319 the females didn't have mandatory military service. Let me clarify, 348 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.400 but the females were tough. The males were tough. We're 349 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.440 not talking about sipping tea. These were farmers and miners 350 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.559 and people who worked hard. And even the ones who 351 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:48.119 were more wealthy. You hunted all the time, the elements 352 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.359 sleeping out under the elements. They were already a people 353 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.680 familiar with the outdoors, familiar with firearms. And then when 354 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.759 you add in mandatory military service, there may not have 355 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.119 been many of them. At about the height of Rhodesia's 356 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.680 army's power, there was only about twenty thousand. That's a 357 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:09.640 tiny army. They were all tough as nails, tough as 358 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:14.839 freaking nails, because look, you grew up in Africa shooting lions, 359 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.200 that's what you did. They were a tough people. World 360 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.920 War two comes along and Britain calls, hey, Rhodesia, we 361 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:28.720 need some guys. Now. I need to pause here, and 362 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.440 I'm gonna have to make this disclaimer many times as 363 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.240 we continue to tell this tale. It can be easy 364 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.440 to think about this story as white versus black. I'm 365 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:42.359 sure you've done it in your mind several times, because 366 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:46.240 the Europeans were white and the tribesmen were black. And 367 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:50.880 in some ways that may be accurate. But when I 368 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.759 said they were trying to integrate the Africans, they were 369 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.000 trying to integrate the Africans. That Rhodesian army, I just meant, 370 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.039 at the height of its power, like half of it 371 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:06.599 was black. They're elite troops, like half of them were black. 372 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.279 The Rhodesians didn't see this as a white versus black 373 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:15.160 thing at all. The loser commis worldwide, It's very similar 374 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.119 to the commies we have today. That's how they sold 375 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:23.920 it worldwide. Look, he's NASA's oppressing the black people. That 376 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:28.720 is not how it was. They were working in many 377 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:32.400 ways hand in hand. That's exactly right, Chris. They used 378 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:37.240 good old fashioned race communism to sell this locally and internationally. 379 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.599 When things kicked off, the Rhodesian military was not just 380 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:45.160 white Europeans. The Africans were getting training, getting everything again, 381 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:49.359 integrating them in Britain fighting World War II needed men. 382 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.039 They said, Rhodesia, can you help. Rhodesia full of a 383 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.960 bunch of tough people, said absolutely, tell us where you 384 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:01.680 need us. So many Rhodesian men black stepped up to fight. 385 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.240 The Brits got concerned that there would be no men 386 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.000 to go back to Rhodesia if they all died, so 387 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.119 they spread the units out all across the everywhere Britain 388 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.000 was fighting. They wouldn't let the Rhodesians go all to 389 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.839 one area because they'd worry about it. Hey send fifty here, 390 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:21.400 sent one hundred there, and they went and fought like 391 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:27.119 lions for Britain in World War Two. Their service is incredible. 392 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.759 But something else, I mean, World War two was awful, 393 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.880 but the result of it was actually wonderful in some ways. 394 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.440 For what is now Rhodesia. I'll explain in a moment 395 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.200 more on this next. It is the Jesse Kelly Show 396 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:46.039 on a magnificent Monday. I swear if you're suffering, we'll 397 00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.440 be back to politics in ten minutes. But we're doing 398 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.920 part two of the Rhodesian bush War. Now. We just 399 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:57.400 finished the rebellion. The Europeans put down the rebellion. Britton 400 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.839 essentially decided, okay, that's enough of all this games. Now 401 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.000