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<v Speaker 1>We to the podcast join host Hoh as he discusses

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<v Speaker 1>the riveting Netflix original series Black Mirror. Now Here he

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<v Speaker 1>is her broadcasting from Weabini Saft Production Studio. Be Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Black Mirror Podcast and as always, I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>ho Ho. So, how y'alls doing. I hope you're doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>I really do, because today we are going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>in season seven with episode three, titled Hotel Reverie. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta admit, so far in season seven, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite episode. It really is an excellent episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved how they did it. I love the concept the

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<v Speaker 1>whole nine yards. It was an excellent movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of things to kind of discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>In this one. There really is. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into that spoiler alert, we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the episode. So if you have yet to check

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<v Speaker 1>out Hotel Reverie, head on over to Netflix and watch

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<v Speaker 1>the episode and then come on back for the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it now. This episode starts actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of different from most other Black Mirror episodes. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>off with a vintage black and white movie titled coincidentally enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel Reverie, and it very much has kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>Casa Blanca, Casa blank, Casa Blanca type of a field

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Wow, that one hurt. But it has a

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<v Speaker 1>Casablanca type of a field to it. And I got admit,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never actually seen Casablanca, and I'm probably you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm not pronouncing that right, forgive me,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it kind of has a Cosablanca type of

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<v Speaker 1>a feel. I've never actually seen the movie. I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff from it, different clips. You know, it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has that type of a feel, and I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have watched vintage movies and I do

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<v Speaker 1>like vintage movies. I really do, because they're they're simpler.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have the you know, the huge plots that

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<v Speaker 1>are in there. You don't have a lot of the fanfare,

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<v Speaker 1>the special effects everything else. I mean, it's it's very

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<v Speaker 1>simplistic in its approach. In its approach, it's it's about

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<v Speaker 1>telling a story one that in that time everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>you know, relate to, you know, just just a different

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing movies. I like them, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're good, wholesome, fun. Vintage movie are awesome. And this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it really talks about a different way of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing a vintage classic to the modern era. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we well known that we don't get there yet

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<v Speaker 1>because after this we are introduced to Brandy. She is

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<v Speaker 1>an actress and she's kind of upset about how her

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<v Speaker 1>career is going because she's kind of been pigeonholed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she only plays like a couple different types

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<v Speaker 1>of roles and that's about it. You know, There's been

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<v Speaker 1>several different actors and actresses over the years that I've

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that very much get pigeonholed. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily why they get pigeonholed, but to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, but for me, the marks of a

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<v Speaker 1>good actor or actress is in the sheer variety of

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<v Speaker 1>roles that they're able to play. I mean, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my I don't want to say one of my favorite actors,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a I very much have a deep

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<v Speaker 1>respect for his acting ability, even though it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ticks me off because I mean it's just he seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's at least with the characters that he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I don't like him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a douche. I don't like him. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like him at all, but I respect his career because

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<v Speaker 1>of the sheer array of different characters that he's played

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<v Speaker 1>and how immersive he is in you know, preparing himself

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<v Speaker 1>to play the role. I have a deep respect for

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<v Speaker 1>his acting career. And that's Leonardo DiCaprio. Just the different

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<v Speaker 1>characters he's played, it's almost a you name it, he's

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<v Speaker 1>done it kind of a thing, and he does it well,

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<v Speaker 1>he really does. I have a deep respect for his

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<v Speaker 1>ability as an actor, his screen presence, everything. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>other actors out there that it seems no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>role they play, they seem like they're playing a different

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<v Speaker 1>version of the same character in a matter of speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and to me, regardless of the person's screen presence,

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<v Speaker 1>because okay, for example, Vin Diesel, you know, awesome screen presence,

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<v Speaker 1>but he kind of plays the same type of character

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, right, And to me, that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>a good actor, if you will. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why Brandy has been, you know, pigeonholed into

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<v Speaker 1>playing these two different types of characters, but she has been,

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants her Casablanca, Casablanca, however you pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants her Hotel reverie type of a movie. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what she wants. That's the type of movie she wants.

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<v Speaker 1>And just coincidentally enough, her agent finds out that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're looking to remake the movie. They're looking

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, and so Brandy's like, dude, yeah, I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely interesting. Under one condition. I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>the lead role, not the love interest. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>play the lead role. They can recast it as a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman, sure, let's go ahead and do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't like this is a new concept, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this happened before, you know, with The Wild Wild

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<v Speaker 1>West that Oh What's that? That Will Smith played in,

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<v Speaker 1>which was absolutely hilarious because I remember whenever that movie

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<v Speaker 1>came out, I listened to a I listened to an

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Will Smith and apparently he was talking with

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<v Speaker 1>his agent about it and he's like, but look, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't play Jim West. I'm black. Jim West was white.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't they going to notice? And I guess his agent

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, but it was a black and white television,

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<v Speaker 1>They're never going to know the difference. And I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, that's hilarious. That's awesome, and Will Smith nailed

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<v Speaker 1>her role. He did a good job with it, he

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<v Speaker 1>really did. So she gets this opportunity. She gets a

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<v Speaker 1>package in the mail you know, has got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the script in it and everything else, and she does

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<v Speaker 1>her job. She memorizes a script, but she accidentally drops

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<v Speaker 1>the USB USB drive on the ground, which was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the concept and what they were actually going to be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So she knows nothing about how they're actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this and why they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it so quickly. Because this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>selling points of doing this is you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>redo a vintage movie for a fraction of the cost

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<v Speaker 1>because you're only you know, you're only booking your actor

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<v Speaker 1>or actors for like an hour and a half, a

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<v Speaker 1>fraction of the time. I mean, normally filming a movie

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<v Speaker 1>takes time. You've got you know, to change your sets,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to you know, go to different locations. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got so many different people that are involved in it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is expensive, right, multiple actors, actresses, film crew, locations,

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<v Speaker 3>set up, tear down all kinds of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>But this method, they're able to do it at a

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<v Speaker 1>fraction of the price. Because and this is where I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was just amazing concept was because it takes

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<v Speaker 1>whatever actor and it puts them into that world using

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<v Speaker 1>AI whoe. My mind was blown on this, It really was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, could you imagine this, I mean not just

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<v Speaker 1>as a not just as a different way to remake

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<v Speaker 1>a movie, to modernize an old vintage movie with a

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<v Speaker 1>with a modern cast, but just I mean, could you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if they actually use this technology on a consumer

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<v Speaker 1>basis to put you in the movie to where you

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<v Speaker 1>can basically star in your own mom? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>many of you have watched a movie so many different

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<v Speaker 1>times that you can virtually quote the entire movie. You

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<v Speaker 1>could watch it and you could you know every line,

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<v Speaker 1>you know every scene, you know how it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>play out. Maybe if it's a horror movie, you're yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at the screen, going don't go down the hallway, don't

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<v Speaker 1>check out the noise. Stop it. You're going to die.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's going to happen. I mean, how many, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how many of you have a movie like that? How

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<v Speaker 1>many of you would think it would be amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>basically star in your favorite movie? I mean that would

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome. Like imagine if this was if this actually

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<v Speaker 1>became a thing and they use this on a consumer level, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that to me is just is dude, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>that really is. I mean that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first things I thought of whenever I seen how they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up doing this. Hands down, I'm like, dude, that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exciting to me. And I mean how far away

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<v Speaker 1>do you think this type of technology is? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they have made advancements in technology by leaps

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<v Speaker 1>and bounds. I mean they actually announced not that long ago, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this was within the past year, within the

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<v Speaker 1>past twelve months, they've announced being able to map consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, that's cool. Computing actually being able to

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<v Speaker 1>be advanced at that. Wow. I was blown away. I

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<v Speaker 1>was blown away just the interface. I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, how far do you think? How far

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<v Speaker 1>away do you think they actually are from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to do this? I mean, do you think we're like

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<v Speaker 1>five years away, ten years away? Do you think they

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<v Speaker 1>can actually do this now? At least in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on some level, I don't know. So Brandy gets hooked

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<v Speaker 1>up into this, into this machine, and she's like shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she had no idea what she was getting into.

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<v Speaker 1>She had no idea what was going on. Now. Before

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, she kind of researched the actress whom she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be. You know, who was the female

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<v Speaker 1>star in this this Dorothy Chambers whom it plays Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was her name, Clara, Clara something or another? What

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<v Speaker 1>was her name something? I think it was French, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll know Clara something played by this actress named Dorothy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, she looks up what had happened to

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<v Speaker 1>her that she you know, tragically well not that she

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<v Speaker 1>tragically died, but she you know, self deleted herself with

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<v Speaker 1>with sleeping pills, and you know, she she just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fell in love in a matter of speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the actress, her her tragic life and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just she yeah, begin to feel for and

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<v Speaker 1>so entering into the movie, that's whenever she found out

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<v Speaker 1>what she was in for. Because is what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>this AI recreates the entire world that the movie takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in. So if it happened in the movie, then

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<v Speaker 1>the whole entire set was completely laid out in this

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you can call it virtual reality world. All

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<v Speaker 1>taking place within a computer, and all of the characters

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<v Speaker 1>are AI generated and they respond to what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's supposed to happen basically

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that it happened in the movie. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you have character arc, story arc, all that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they're supposed to take place, right. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me, in a matter of speaking, with

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<v Speaker 1>Assassin's Creed. You know, you have to sink what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you fall out of sink and then you just throw

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<v Speaker 1>way and in order to make it through the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be as accurate to the story as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she's saying her lines, she's doing what she

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<v Speaker 1>know they're measuring, you know, the the love aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're measuring how accurate to the story they are. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that they're tracking all kinds of stuff with the

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<v Speaker 1>You know, actors and actresses couldn't do half the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>It's not them doing the moves. It's not them jumping

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just that was one of the parts

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, and you're surprised about this that she can't

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<v Speaker 1>It made something happen that was going to advance the

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<v Speaker 1>to its nice, little happy ending. But because Brandy was

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<v Speaker 1>out as it was supposed to. It was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be bad, right, So they were going to reset the

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<v Speaker 1>entire movie and out try it all over again. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>what we see ended up playing out is well. There

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a heated scene between Brandy and Clara,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy everybody is you know, all of the people that

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<v Speaker 1>the movie itself. You know, the ones that were keeping

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<v Speaker 1>track of this, keeping track of that, you know, put

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that everything was, you know, going together nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're paying attention. They are just in what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident happens. Coffee spills on the computer? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, just you don't put liquids, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't put your drink water, any electronics, just don't mix.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how could you make such a rookie mistake

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<v Speaker 1>and spill your drink on your computer, screwing the whole

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<v Speaker 1>can no longer communicate with Brandy, to talk to her,

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<v Speaker 1>to walk her through anything, to find out what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>to give her any type of you know, help nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is frozen. Not only that, everything in the AI

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<v Speaker 1>generated world the movie, everybody stops. Everybody is frozen in time,

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody hit the pause button on their remote control

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<v Speaker 1>except Brandy and Clara, the only two people that can

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<v Speaker 1>yards Now, obviously, Clara starts freaking out. It's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck is going on? Right? Because Clara thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>she is in a movie. I mean, she's not acting this.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like this is Dorothy playing the role of Clara.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Clara the you know, the these uh the

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<v Speaker 1>characters that are you know, AI controlled, AI powered. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you can say they all think they're real. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a movie to them. I mean just the concept,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, the concept is awesome. And so she's confused,

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<v Speaker 1>and then something happens because Brandy actually addresses Clara as Dorothy,

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<v Speaker 1>the actress who played Clara in the movie, and this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of echoed with Clara, like she understood without really understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like an echo going on, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how they ended up tying this together was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because basically how they played it off

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<v Speaker 1>was Dorothy. Whenever she played that character, she used, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her own life as inspiration to play the character. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of Dorothy in the character Clara

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<v Speaker 1>in that movie. And this, I mean, this really got

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking because it's like, I mean, we hear about

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<v Speaker 1>different actors and actresses that whenever they are playing a role,

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<v Speaker 1>they just they they just dive headfirst into a character.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they they just they completely emerge themselves into

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<v Speaker 1>the role, becoming the character that they're playing. And that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I mean it just it seems just psychologically draining.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in some in some ways some forms

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<v Speaker 1>that in order to really play a character and make

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<v Speaker 1>it believable. I mean that's everybody knows that whenever they're

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie, they're watching something that is staged, something

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<v Speaker 1>that's fake, something that is not real. And the magic

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<v Speaker 1>happens whenever you can watch a movie and be immersed

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<v Speaker 1>in it to the point to where you're you're not

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie. I mean, good actors make great movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the skill that it takes to change yourself

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<v Speaker 1>into somebody else to where you can make your performance believable,

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<v Speaker 1>natural and make the audience believe that they're not even

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie. They may as well just be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a third person, a fly on the wall in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie, they're not watching a movie. They're watching

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<v Speaker 1>something that is real. That's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a great movie. I mean, I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for a character that can immerse themselves or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, a lot of respect for an actor and

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<v Speaker 1>an actress that can immerse themselves into a character and

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<v Speaker 1>make it believable to where the audience, I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>like they're none the wiser, but they believe. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>awesome to me, you know. And so that's what Dorothy

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<v Speaker 1>so Clara was like it echoed, her name echoed with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, this is where things got a little

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<v Speaker 1>weird because Clara, in her desperation to find some type

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<v Speaker 1>of grounding that made what was going on makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was told by Brandy that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is real. You're just a character where redoing this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>you're somebody that's actually AI generated, you know. But the

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing was and that this is where they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it went to the next level because Clara kind

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<v Speaker 1>of became self aware, right, I was like, dude, that whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>because what Clara does you know? In her trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find rooting and something stable in this craziness that was

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<v Speaker 1>taken that was happening, she walks over to a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>a door, maybe walks over to a door, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to open the door, she just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reaches out to try to touch the door and her

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<v Speaker 1>hand goes right through it. I'm like, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you couldn't have had her like break a

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<v Speaker 1>window and try to go through the window and the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing happened. I mean, this I thought was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird. I mean, this was supposed to be a door.

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<v Speaker 1>The AI generated world would have made it a door

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere else in the story, in the you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the setting, every door is a door. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>make this not a door? Why would you make this

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<v Speaker 1>a something you can pass through like you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad video game. But that's what they did. She walks

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<v Speaker 1>through it and it is complete blackness. Now, how they

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<v Speaker 1>end up explaining it is whenever Clara went through that barrier,

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<v Speaker 1>she entered into the rest of the computer, giving her

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<v Speaker 1>access to everything that the computer knew about Dorothy, the

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<v Speaker 1>actress that was playing Clara, and you get the flashbacks

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, Dorothy's experience on set. You find out

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<v Speaker 1>that Dorothy had a love interest on set, and you

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<v Speaker 1>find out more or less why she ended up self terminating, heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and she comes out, you know, really trying to accept,

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<v Speaker 1>come to terms with what it is she just learned

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<v Speaker 1>about herself. And no surprise, you know, Clara and Brandy

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<v Speaker 1>end up, you know, having a relationship. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting close to each other. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they spend months in limbo. I mean that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, could you imagine, I mean, being stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>limbo like this, And I mean they were trying everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the real world. They were trying everything

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<v Speaker 1>they could to figure this thing out. They were trying

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<v Speaker 1>everything to fix the problem because they couldn't just unplug Brandy,

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<v Speaker 1>because doing that would have separated Brandy's body from her consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>In essence, killing her wasn't an eye option. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to fix this, and they're trying everything to

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<v Speaker 1>fix this. They were, and time in the movie was

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<v Speaker 1>months were going by. They gave a like a time frame.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what it was. It was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think seven days per minute, maybe I think something along that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let At any rate, it was a long amount of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, months of time went by. And so obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Brandy and Clara, they get close. Love ends

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<v Speaker 1>up happening between the two, and then Brandy has this

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know. They're laying in bed and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because Clara is like, you know, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandy's just like mm hmmm. And I'm like, really, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're going to say to her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And and her response was like, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you love me, if you're saying you love

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<v Speaker 1>me because you actually love me, or if that's because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how your character is supposed to act. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it is in the movie, right. But Clara

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<v Speaker 1>assures her, no, I actually love you. This isn't programming

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<v Speaker 1>from the movie. I know you. I know you're not

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<v Speaker 1>this person, You're somebody different, and this is the person

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<v Speaker 1>that I love interesting. They fixed a problem in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world, and they they are able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy and tell her, hey, we're going to reset everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get this thing back going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Brandy is starting to protest a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they tell her that when they reset, when

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to where it was. Nobody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to remember anything. Clara is not going to remember anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be in the in the eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>minds of everybody else, all the AI individuals there that

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<v Speaker 1>those months never happened. And so just like Brandy was told,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it happened. Like dude, they fixed the plot holes,

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<v Speaker 1>they get things back on track. Things end up taking

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<v Speaker 1>a completely different turn.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't actually, I mean dude.

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<v Speaker 1>A completely different ending than what the original ending was.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a good ending. Credits roll, Brandy wakes up,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie goes out, gets released. It's a hit, it

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<v Speaker 1>was successful, and this is where I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude. How they ended this episode was just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, because obviously, during this timeframe, Brandy gets

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<v Speaker 1>feelings for Clara, and well, I mean not really so

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<v Speaker 1>much Clara. I mean it was Dorothy because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy researches her, she finds out who she was in

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<v Speaker 1>her tragic end and everything else. She spends you know,

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<v Speaker 1>months in this AI world trying to recreate this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that time she gets feelings for in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio that produced the movie, the remake of it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>what they did was just wow. They sent her a

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<v Speaker 1>package I believe it was a DVD. Maybe I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a DVD, and what was on it was

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<v Speaker 1>the screen test that Dorothy had whenever she tried out

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<v Speaker 1>for the role of Clara. And there's this little telephone

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<v Speaker 1>handle that hooks up into a USB thing and it

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<v Speaker 1>allows Brandy and Dorothy to talk to each other, to

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<v Speaker 1>actually communicate. I was like, dude, that was actually really

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<v Speaker 1>really freaking cool. It really was. I mean, dude, favorite

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<v Speaker 1>episode so far this season very much, so I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to continue going. But here's the thing. How how far

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<v Speaker 1>along do you think we are technology wise into something

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<v Speaker 1>like this actually being a reality? Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>see this technology being used in this way to where

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<v Speaker 1>an actor can just step into somebody else's role to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bring a vintage movie into the modern era

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<v Speaker 1>in that way. What movie would you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>go in this direction? What character would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>see reprise a you know, whatever role would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to see because I know I would. Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to see this being implemented, this type of technology implemented

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<v Speaker 1>on a consumer level, much like what was done in

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<v Speaker 1>Striking Vipers. Dude, the possibilities on this, Holy crap. I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many movies that I would like to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that I think would be awesome if this

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<v Speaker 1>person could play that role, If that person could play

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<v Speaker 1>this role, I mean just so many different things that

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<v Speaker 1>would be Like, Dude, I would love to see what

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<v Speaker 1>this person would do with that role, so many different movies,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would love to see this being implemented in

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<v Speaker 1>a consumer type of role. I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely phenomenal. I mean, how many people out there that

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<v Speaker 1>would just that would love to do that? What would

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<v Speaker 1>be what would be your movie that you would want

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<v Speaker 1>to experience? What character would you want to play? And why?

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<v Speaker 1>Send me an email? Ho ho at the ho Ho

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<v Speaker 1>Show dot com. No wait, nope, scratch that ho ho

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<v Speaker 1>at Black Mirror Podcast dot com. Holy crap, ho ho

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<v Speaker 1>at black Mirror Podcast dot com. Let me know on

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<v Speaker 1>a consumer level what movie would you like to star

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<v Speaker 1>in and why I'm curious let me know. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>know down in the comments, send me an email ho

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<v Speaker 1>Ho at Black Mirror podcast dot com. Anyway, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I got for y'alls today. That is it. The next

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<v Speaker 1>episode is going to be Plaything. I've heard some good

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<v Speaker 1>things about this episode. I'm actually very excited to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it and that one will go live next month. Until then,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all have a so for a great one. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to the Black Mirror Podcast. If you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to join the conversation, you can comment on this

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<v Speaker 1>episode a sprinker dot com or go to the ho

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<v Speaker 1>board for this c
