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<v Speaker 1>Billy coming in the Great America and welcome this Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Try Stage, Reds baseball kicks off about six

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<v Speaker 1>oh five tonight, because I thought that maybe Trevino should

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<v Speaker 1>start the game because he seems to have more results

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<v Speaker 1>in the starting pitching crew. Looking at the last two

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<v Speaker 1>games at my ballpark, the Great American, the Reds on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night lost five to one. They lost last night

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to two. That means collectively they're seventeen and three.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a football score, a baseball score. Seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>three against Miami, not exactly the seventy six Reds, but nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>they try again tonight. We'll see what happens tonight with

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<v Speaker 1>Avan on the mound, and then they have one more

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<v Speaker 1>game tomorrow with Miami than three with the Rocks in

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<v Speaker 1>town and getting ready for the All Star break and

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline. Maybe one of the other good teams

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<v Speaker 1>won Trevino to pitch for them, because he seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best pitch of the Reds half. But until then,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all hell breaking loose throughout the Try State in

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<v Speaker 1>many different quarters. I have a guest on tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what happens in Clifton in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>fire station, the skyline chill. On a regular basis. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had on guests from Covington about the what's happening on

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<v Speaker 1>the riverfront there and also in Cincinnati. But Red White

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<v Speaker 1>and Blue Ash is a signature event in Hambleton County's

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<v Speaker 1>We're going on for about thirty years, and until a

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<v Speaker 1>few days ago there was no difficulties whatsoever. Then all

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<v Speaker 1>hell broke loose. Joining you and I now is Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>Jill Cole, and Mayor Cole is in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Blue Ash, the little tree that grew, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Cole welcome, i think for the first time to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. So first of all, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me tell the American people the event itself, the

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<v Speaker 1>planning for the event before the events took place later

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<v Speaker 1>on in the evening that were terrible. Now just talk

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<v Speaker 1>in general about what Red White and Blue Ash seeks

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<v Speaker 1>to do for the past thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on, Billy. Yes, it's my first

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<v Speaker 2>time talking with you, and I'm really grateful to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Blue Ash is an amazing city. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a long history of being safe and welcoming and we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the we have the ability to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of amazing things, including our annual Fourth of July celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, we've been putting these on for over

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years, and I've always been so proud that despite

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<v Speaker 2>the thousands and thousands of people that attend, there have

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<v Speaker 2>rarely been any problems. However, last Friday night, a small

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<v Speaker 2>group of individuals made poor choices and they frightened the

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<v Speaker 2>people around them. I know I had one of my

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<v Speaker 2>family members that was right in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was very scary. Fortunately, our police officers were

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<v Speaker 2>nearby and they were able to quickly respond to the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately, Yes, very serious injury, and there's other serious injury

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<v Speaker 1>or deaths or nothing at some of these events. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as the entry of the facility, I was last

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<v Speaker 1>there about ten to twelve years ago and it was

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<v Speaker 1>easy to get into, easy to go. Is there an

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<v Speaker 1>entry point where people were more or less checked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit or not ors simply catches catch can just

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<v Speaker 1>come in for any any quarter that you desire.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just to catches catching Can. It's ad over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred acre park and we do want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it very opening and welcoming, and so we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a checkpoint. And you know, obviously we're going to look

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<v Speaker 2>at this and see what safety measures we might need

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<v Speaker 2>to implement for next year. I think that one would

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<v Speaker 2>be a difficult one to do because of the size

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<v Speaker 2>of the park and also again we just want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the welcoming, family friendly environment of it.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as what occurred that night, I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been working on this with the city manager and the

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<v Speaker 1>police chief. Tell the American people what happened Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>that caused the injury to the police officer, and just

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<v Speaker 1>give us the facts of what happened that turned out

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<v Speaker 1>not so well for that particular event.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, you know, I just want to reiterate though that

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<v Speaker 2>we're still doing research on this, that we're still analyzing

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<v Speaker 2>you but what we know is that again, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a small group of individuals that were throwing fireworks at

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<v Speaker 2>each other under the canopy area, which if you've been

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<v Speaker 2>to the park, you're familiar with that. And then unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>they ran through the crowd saying that gunshots had been fired,

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<v Speaker 2>so they added confusion and upset to the area. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>The people that witnessed it were very upset, rightfully, so,

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<v Speaker 2>fortunately it was fairly well contained and again the police

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<v Speaker 2>responded quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as injuries, what was the injury to the

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<v Speaker 1>police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a burn on his legs from a firecracker

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<v Speaker 2>that hit him. He was treated at the hospital and released.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he was back on duty last night.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as I read somewhere in the media

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<v Speaker 1>that juvenile court, which in my editorial opinion, often does

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible job relative to holding juveniles accountable for serious misbehavior,

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<v Speaker 1>is it true that juvenile court dismissed most of the

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<v Speaker 1>charges against the individual that injured the police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, and unfortunately we can do our part,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can't control what happens after that, which is

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<v Speaker 2>really unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that happen with your permission? With you're okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I wasn't there. Would have to talk with the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were there. But I don't know that we

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<v Speaker 2>have a choice in that. That's the magistrate's decision and.

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<v Speaker 1>The police officer. I would assume it was. I just

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<v Speaker 1>understand it's without prejudice, which means that it could be

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<v Speaker 1>brought again. And the magistrate in the media said that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't identify the person who did this because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a juvenile. But nonetheless it was over the objections of

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<v Speaker 1>the police officer and according to media accounts, the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Bluish was not involved in the greeing to the dismissal.

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<v Speaker 1>The magistrate did it on her own. Is that your.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding, that's my understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as going forward, one of the council members

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<v Speaker 1>has come forward about monitoring social media, almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>CIA function in which you're going to have large numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of people monitoring social media of individuals who may come

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<v Speaker 1>to the party, may not come to the party. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as entry points and searches of bags, have you

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<v Speaker 1>begun the planning yet to do? What number one, is

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<v Speaker 1>the event going to continue next year and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>how will it be different?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know the event will continue next year. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point, you know, we're just beginning to look at this,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a whole year and so we work

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<v Speaker 2>closely with our law enforcement, our parks and w REC

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<v Speaker 2>people and we'll carefully look at what happened and see

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<v Speaker 2>what we can do if we need to make adjustments

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<v Speaker 2>or changes to ensure that it's a states and welcoming event. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we do as a policy in our council

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<v Speaker 2>appoint the mayor and the city administration as official spokespeople.

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<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately we had a council member that's gone out

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<v Speaker 2>on his own and has made statements that are not

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<v Speaker 2>reflective of the views or the values of the city,

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<v Speaker 2>describing the individuals as you know, just confusing language that

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<v Speaker 2>stigmatizes and dehumanizes these people, which were just young kids.

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<v Speaker 2>They made stupid mistakes, but that was no real you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't be out ahead of this event without understanding

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<v Speaker 2>all of what happened and criticizing the young people that

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<v Speaker 2>were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that council member was almost Cosloane. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. He talked about the punks, about individuals that

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<v Speaker 1>don't deserve to come to events like that. He was

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<v Speaker 1>very accusatory of those being charged. And so you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that does not reflect the viewpoint of city council in

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<v Speaker 1>blue Ash nor the mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is that we shouldn't be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>individuals like that. First of all, we need to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the communication, particularly to the administration, So what was released

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<v Speaker 2>is clear and factual and doesn't conflict with other people

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<v Speaker 2>are said, and I just personally think and I know

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<v Speaker 2>that my council members share my view that his statements

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<v Speaker 2>were inflammatory and were not necessary or helpful and just

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<v Speaker 2>made the situation worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the charges were kept inside the City of

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<v Speaker 1>Bluish and Mayor's Court. As you know as the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>that there are misdemeanor charges that could be brought and

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<v Speaker 1>kept in Mayor's court and if it's a juvenile it

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<v Speaker 1>must be sent down to Hamlin County Juvenile Court, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a history of dismissing charges against those charges with crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will and Nelly basis are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>is there a sense of pursuing the charges in the

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<v Speaker 1>City of blue Ash Mayor's Court to it to their

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<v Speaker 1>logical conclusion and not to dismiss them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't have any information about what the

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<v Speaker 2>plan is. As you know, we have a magister. You

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<v Speaker 2>may know that we have an outside person run our

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<v Speaker 2>mayor's court now a lawyer, so that it's handled completely appropriately,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and so I have not been engaged in

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<v Speaker 2>any conversations talking about what what will be this is

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<v Speaker 2>the decision about these charges.

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as the planning for the future. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of having a place where people are checked is

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<v Speaker 1>almost impossible to do because I've been there many times

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<v Speaker 1>and you can come into that park from three sixty

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<v Speaker 1>You can come in from almost any angle. Secondly, to

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<v Speaker 1>have a weight line for people to come in starting

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon until ten thirty pm at night, which

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<v Speaker 1>take forever to get through the line, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. And so there's been comments made by some

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<v Speaker 1>about parents that aren't possibly being the kind of parents

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<v Speaker 1>they should be relative to their children. There were comments

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<v Speaker 1>made by state officials and I know police officer and

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<v Speaker 1>chiefs of police and other cities have said where are

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<v Speaker 1>the parents? How come parents on supervising their own children?

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the age of those involved in these activities?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the number about ninety because the police chief said

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<v Speaker 1>it was about ninety people, What can you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>How many people? I've heard media reports that there were

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred people that I haven't heard anything official from

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<v Speaker 2>our folks that determine that that was the number of

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<v Speaker 2>this group. But again, it was a very small number

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<v Speaker 2>of young people that made these poor choices and use

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<v Speaker 2>these actions that scared people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question and I think ninety might be a

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<v Speaker 1>small number. At one point it was four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the tenants is ninety thousand people, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard some say there's ninety to one hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>attending it. Is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I've heard varying numbers from fifty to sixty

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<v Speaker 2>to seventy in the park to the numbers that you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about when you consider the people that watch the

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<v Speaker 2>fireworks from around the park and then surrounding commercial buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a big event, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Ash we only have about thirteen or fourteen thousand residents.

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<v Speaker 2>So we put on this event for the whole community,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole region, and we're happy to do it and

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<v Speaker 2>just will work really hard for next year to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we can do anything possible to minimize any

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<v Speaker 2>events like that's happening to disrupt what's otherwise an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>event and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor cole it's fair to say the great majority of

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<v Speaker 1>those attending this event are not from the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Ash. Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Can't bember the numbers speak for themselves?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what does everybody park? I mean, I look at

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of fifty to sixty thousand people. That's like a

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost up to the level of paid course stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do people park? How do you get there?

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<v Speaker 2>We have well, we have a lot of commercials, a

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<v Speaker 2>commercial areas around sum At Park, and so the office building.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the office buildings, not everyone, but many of

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<v Speaker 2>them allow us to have visitors park there. We put

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<v Speaker 2>up portlets and so forth, you know, to accommodate the

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<v Speaker 2>needs of the people. But you know, we have good

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<v Speaker 2>relationships with our surrounding businesses. We try to take really

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<v Speaker 2>from time to time with situations like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, going forward, how does this hurt you as the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of this city, which I think Blue Ash is

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<v Speaker 1>fabulous that it's a motto is the little tree that

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<v Speaker 1>grew it's now a fabulous community. How does this hurt

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<v Speaker 1>your heart when there's something like this happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, I said, it just hurts my heart because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been so proud of the fact that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you were talking about earlier, crazy things are happening

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<v Speaker 2>all over that we've always been able to host this

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<v Speaker 2>event that has been pretty much trouble free and it

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<v Speaker 2>is discouraging that this wasn't the case this year, But

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<v Speaker 2>I really have a lot of confidence in our team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that we will carefully look at every

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<v Speaker 2>angle of it and will develop a very effective, safe

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<v Speaker 2>plan going future, you know, going forward. So we'll also

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<v Speaker 2>still keep it welcoming and family oriented events.

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<v Speaker 1>So the event will go on no matter what. The

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<v Speaker 1>planning will continue. You can't let these few individuals, which

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<v Speaker 1>might be half of one percent or less of those

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<v Speaker 1>who attend, can't let them ruin it for the other

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point eight percent of the people that attend.

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<v Speaker 1>I often reference this. Then it's not exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But when something happens terrible in Israel and some terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>blows up a pizza parlor, the next day, the pizza

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<v Speaker 1>parlor is filled with customers because you can't let the

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<v Speaker 1>myscreyants determine your activities. As an American, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to this stuff, and we can't back down

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<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, we're not going to do this anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because someone may get hurt. Someone may get hurt just

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<v Speaker 1>walking across the street, for God's sakes. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>these things happen, whether it's on the Banks, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Park, whether it's in Covington, whether it's in Middletown,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's in Blue Ash. When these events take place,

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<v Speaker 1>we must stand up together and say not on my watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to continue to have this event. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to police it maybe a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. But I don't know how you could have

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<v Speaker 1>anticipated this from occurring. It hadn't happened in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And nonetheless your head over one hundred police officers present,

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<v Speaker 1>and at this point the planning must go on. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it your attitude that as long as you're the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Blue Ash, this event will transpire.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is my sincere hope. And I've heard no

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<v Speaker 2>one on staff mention at all the idea that this

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<v Speaker 2>would not go forward. And this is a very important

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<v Speaker 2>community event we're very proud to put on celebrating our countries.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have no information at all that discontinuing it

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<v Speaker 2>is being considered, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Mayor Joe Cole, thanks for coming on. And Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night was a good night until at the last thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or forty minutes, and then a few individuals acted up,

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<v Speaker 1>made fools of themselves, committed crimes and next year it

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<v Speaker 1>will be more prepared. But Mayor Joe Cole, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor thinks Bill. Let's continue with more, and there you

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<v Speaker 1>have it, and fortunately no one was seriously injured, no

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<v Speaker 1>one was hurt seriously, no one was killed, fortunately, but

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<v Speaker 1>nonetheless had the potential of some serious injuries from individuals

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know how to act in public. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>with more. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW