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Speaker 2: Every Tuesday nine am, we catch up with a guy,
Nick Underhill, New Orleans, a dot football who joins us. Now, Nicholas,
how we're doing, how we living?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 4: Doing good? Doing good? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Doing fantastic?
Speaker 2: Obviously, I think we're all still excited about some of
the free agent moves that the New Orleans Saints have made,
excited about the upcoming draft in Pittsburgh coming up in
a couple.
Speaker 3: Of weeks now.
Speaker 2: But I gotta ask you, did you know that when
the Saints sun Travis etn that it was actually Travis Chan.
Speaker 4: I had no idea. I mean, that's definitely the Pennsylvania
at me. I was blown away when I heard that.
It's like, there's no way that's it. I mean, look,
we put your people's names all the time. That's not
one that I would have like ask, hey, how do
you say this? Like it just seems it just seems straightforward.
I've been here for twelve years now, going on twelve years,
and that one, that one caught me off card. I
feel like I've acclimated pretty well, and uh, you know,
I guess I needed uh you know, I'm sure like
Bobby Avier, every's like, hey, you idiots like I had,
I had no idea. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Well at this point it's on him a little bit though. Yeah,
like I'm going to back you up here. Uh, you know,
your name's your name?
Speaker 2: And if Dabo Sweeney can't say you forced him to say,
like coach, it's not Etn.
Speaker 3: That's not the way you say my last name. It's
a chan. I got a brother. He's pretty good at
football team.
Speaker 2: His first year in the league either, right, he's been
a brother that we've called Trevor Etn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both have microphones. That's not on you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you get to a lot of
times you see people get to the league and they'll
change you know, you know that their name isn't what
you thought, like uh rel Reese, but just feels like
uh like Mike Stanton. You know, it just took him
like so many years. Then he comes out like you
gotta you gotta do it early, man, Like you can't
let us screw it up and just roll with it,
like you just got to tell us that we're idiots
and to fix it. Yeah, I was. I was surprised though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so Now moving forward, are you when
you're talking about him as a new Saints player, are
you going Travis a Champ?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I mean you told me,
you told me your name is something different what I'm
calling you like, I'm not married to anything. I just
want to get it right.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna wear a rubber band and every time
I say eighteen, I'm gonna snap myself on the wrist,
just so I trained.
Speaker 3: Myself to say it right. So we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 3: A question for you, mel kiper overrated, underrated?
Speaker 4: I think mel mel does a lot of work. He
put he puts a lot of effort in. You know,
it's it's it's tough like when you're your number one
quarterback and then like you're you're like defiantly like fighting
over it, and then you know, he goes into fifth
round and then he doesn't play that great when he
gets in the league. Like, you know, I think sometimes
like the biggest flot for people, I think in our
field and what we do is just like an inability
to say, like, hey, I'm an idiot and I'm updating
my take with new information and kind of rolling with it.
But like he even kept like fighting with that all
throughout the season, and I guess at that point, like
you got so much stock in it that that you know,
you just do it. But you know, I think Mel's
very good at what he does. But I think he
gets stubborn and gets married to some prior opinions, and
I just think that's a mistake. Like if I think,
you know, the Devon Beeley trade isn't good in September
and then he starts playing well in November, I'm not
gonna keep I'm gonna say, no, I was wrong, I
was an idiot, Like I gotta update my take. There's
no information, uh, you know, And it's I think sometimes
he gets a little caught up in that and it's
good for TV, but you know, it's just kind of
now like the next quarterback seeing like like I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, I mean, I don't know what your problem is
with your or Nick, but it's a little ridiculous.
Speaker 4: No problem when he's a fifth rounder. You can't keep
saying that he's that he's not, you know, like it's
just he kind of got to know and if I like,
if I'm hearing where where he's gonna go. No, Kiper
certainly has heard it before I've heard it. He's way
more plugged into that that than me. But it's just
kind of like, you know, they get to a place. Look,
I guess it's your opinion and not the league's opinion,
but you also got to understand like, hey, look this
is what I think, but this is where the leagu's going.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 4: That one just was tough for me. It was a
tough It was a tough U. It was a tough,
tough evaluation.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So Melcaver had a new mock draft come out
this morning and at number eight with the New Orleans Saints,
Carnell Tait state wide receiver to the New Orleans Saints.
How do you feel about it? I know, if you've
talked about him on the show a little bit, but
that's the newest mock draft. How would you feel about
Carnel Ta?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him. I like him. You know, I
think I think any any weapon at this point will
be a good will be a good pick, you know.
I I think I prefer maybe I like all them guys,
and if they took any of the three, like any
of the Big three, I'd be cool with it. I
got So it's kind of like you know, picking nits
with with people that are really good, and I think
they'd all be great additions to the team. I just
think that you can get a different skill set, and
there's a lot that goes into it, Like you got
to be comfortable with Jordan Tyson's injury stuff, like, and
that's a huge piece. You don't want to draft the
a A man, I just walked into this. You don't
want to draft like a you know, a proverbial Lemon.
But like I like McKayle Lemon, and you know, I
think he'd be a good fit for what they do.
So you want to be careful if you're going with Tyson,
just be sure, like have really good info on the
medical I like McKayle Lemon, because I think he kind
of fits. You know, if you're dividing the field out
into three quadrants, I think you have people that fit
into all three. Then if you take him and you
got like a really good underneath option little dump boss
over the middle of them, put crossers, quick slants, and
he can make someone miss and I can go And
I feel like, you know, Tate does a lot. I
just feel like that is a three. He's the most
similar to chrys Olave, and I feel like he could
in an ideal world if everything's clean and you feel
good about you know another. There's a lot of talk
about Kaye Limon's combat interviews. The feedback I've gotten is
that it wasn't an issue for the Saints. So I mean,
if you feel comfortable with that personality, you're good to go. Tyson,
you got to feel good about the injury stuff, you'd
be good to go. And I think Tate's really good.
I think he'd be a good fit. You can have
two of those guys. But if I'm if I like
all of them the same as the team and I
feel good about some of the other stuff, I think
maybe I go one of the other two first, but
Tate might be the right access of heal's ability off
field all that stuff, And if he is and he
ends up being your top guy, I'd be totally cool
with that.
Speaker 2: My only worry with Carnell Tate is that he's never
been a number one receiver in college. Marvin Harrison Junior
was that guy two years ago. Jeremiah Smith and look,
those are really good player, so it's not even a
slight to him. But I would have a hard time
selecting a guy at number eight that has never been
the number one guy at his position on his college team.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean, and that's an amazing point, Like, yeah,
if you're if everybody's rotating to Jeremiah Smith and you're
just getting the advantageous look every single game, Like yeah,
I mean I think that's something you got to go
into it looking at too. You know what. It feels
like he can do everything. And I was at that
Penn Stake game when he went crazy, So maybe maybe
I got a little bit of you know, like judging
him too much off the highs or whatever, But you know,
I think I think he's good. But yeah, absolutely, like
can he be the guy? Can he carry team. I mean,
I think those are all things that you got to
you gotta have good answers for, and I think that's
that's probably at the very top of that list of
things when you're getting your staff together and you're discussing him, like, hey,
look like is he is he a beneficiary of everything
else that's going on here? We got all these guys
and and he's over here, and we might have the
best college wide receiver since Chase, Like what what, What's
what's the impact on him? So yeah, I mean I
think that's definitely something you gotta have an answer for
it too.
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to go one more position, because I
know receiver was what got kind of excited about. And
then like you know, we do deep dies and you
and I were both in Indie, so you start to
hear the whispers of some guys medicals and where there
at an interview process like you mentioned there. So if
it's not a receiver, I love the Saints going monsur Delaine,
not just because he's an LSU guy.
Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player. You lost Paulton
a debo two years.
Speaker 2: Ago, you lose Alante Taylor this year, Kule McKinstry is
just not taking that step that you need him to
take to feel like you've got your guy for the future.
I think you need a corner on this team and
also like there's gonna be some teams because I think eight, nine, ten, eleven,
and twelve are going to want a corner, So you've
got some Like you're holding a really good spot as well,
because I think the Chiefs need to replace their corners.
Cincinnati needs all the defensive help. I think Miami and Dallas,
they all those teams could use corners. So you got
this like if you put it out there that you're
gonna select him too, Like, there's gonna be some teams
that want to, you know, maybe have a conversation with
you about that pick. So if you make the selection
at corner, I would feel really good about Monsieur delaying
at eight.
Speaker 4: Are you predicting the Round one trade down for Mickey Bluhman, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I know, Well, if it was anybody else, I'd
say it's almost guaranteed that's going to happen. The fact
that it is Mickey, I'm like caution tape around it.
But if he's ever going to do it, they are
in a prime spot for what's probably going to be
available to whatever literally like the next four teams behind
them need.
Speaker 4: It's a great It's a great point too, because he's
one of those inflection points in the draft that if
you do need one, like you kind of got to
go get them. And now they I think what they've
done in their moves through throughout free agency is, yeah,
when you start restocking the deck, now all of a sudden,
I wasn't really looking at the lane before He's It's like, well,
there's just too many pressing these other places, and now
all of a sudden, like they sign these guys and
you start you like Blane like it makes sense, But
whytn't he goes too? He makes even more sense. So yeah,
you you definitely if you don't want him, you can
definitely create the appearance that you do. It's fascinating to
them though, too, because like I feel like it could
be a good pick. I feel good about the two
guys they got by, I could feel better like I'm
not necessarily convicted to having Quincy, Riley and Coolly be
my my one two punch, Like I could add a
guy that that makes him be better if it makes
my team better, go do it, I know in the spot, like,
I think their preference is to kind of have a
more of a of a safety play that position. Then
then have it be a pure corner just for for
the flexibility and the stuff Daily wants to do. But
I think they'd be open to to, you know, going
that direction if they needed to too. And I know
they think Quincy Riley can play inside if he needs to,
so it could be a way to strengthen up your
whole entire group. The trade back is kind of fascinating
because if he is like Delane could be that guy,
and then I don't think there's a lot of people
that that. People are going to be desperate the trade
back in for so if he is there and you
don't want him, and you know, kind of the top
of the draft is a little bit weak. So if
you feel like your franchise changers are gone, can you
drop back a little bit there like he did? Do
you do you trade back? Get another second? You take
mesidor and and now you've got two seconds to go
wide receiver, whatever, dart, whatever you want to do. I
think Guard's still on the table. It would be a
really nice way to stack the deck if if you're
sitting there and I don't know, like you don't need
Jeremiah Lovely anymore. You know, I think he's probably out
of play. Uh, you know, a change seems like the
guy there. It feels like Alvin's not going to be
on the team. Maybe maybe you could draft k Tron
Allen if you pick up another pick or something. It'd
be it'd be fascinating to see them do that.
Speaker 3: Heyday.
Speaker 5: How many calls have the Saints received about trading Derek Carr.
Speaker 4: At the combine? It was zero And I have not
caught a whiff of anything on that. And that feels
like something where you know, it would just be something
where the wind would blow and you feel the winds
like it's something like you know, there's just certain things
that like if someone called for Derek Cardon was about
to happen, it feels like there'd be some some pulse
there that that I believe would would come my way.
To this point, no, and I don't see the spot,
like where where's he going? Like is it Pittsburgh or
Butch At this point, if Rogers doesn't come back, I
don't know where else he would go. Uh, I guess
to sell him stuff on the idea of the Raiders
if they wanted them. But like, is Derek Carson? I
feel bad saying this, but like, is he a guy
you want around?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Is he is he the is he the mentor for
for a guy taking his job? It feels like no,
it doesn't feel like that's something he'd want to do.
So it feels like all the chairs are gone unless
Rogers decides not to play.
Speaker 3: It was. It was kind of a joke. Obviously, nobody's
going for Derek Carr. I think he thought they were, though.
Speaker 2: I really think like when he put that out there,
he's like, oh, oh hey, hey David, watch this bro,
And then like nobody called and he's like, oh boy, man.
Speaker 3: They're they're out there signing to a tongue of by
Low instead of me.
Speaker 4: Do you have to say it like that?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: That was basic.
Speaker 2: IM just saying like, I think you just overvalue like
what the market was going to be.
Speaker 3: There's not a market.
Speaker 5: Hey, did did Cam Jordan take a shot at Tomorrow
Davis last couple of days saying something about well, I'm
not gonna go to a team with three wins or
something like that.
Speaker 3: Did you see this?
Speaker 4: Was that? Was that the toront Armstead interview?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 4: Actually Cam talks truly fast, and he says a lot
of stuff man that I think. I think people just
don't like the way he says that, like stuff just
flies on the Kim can go like stand at the
podium and shoot up the club and you don't even
realize it until lady like did he say that? I mean, look,
I was starting to Mario with in New York too,
but he's got to do his right, Kirk for him
and his family, so I get it. But yeah, I
mean camp situation is fascinating, man. I think they're really
in a in a I mean it's not even a think.
It's obvious like they're in they're in a standoff right now.
And I think he sees his value at one place
and I think they see it about where it was
last year, and uh, I don't know, it seems like
if they want to wait it out, like they can
wait it out. I'm kind of surprised how hard lined
this has been. I kind of thought, yeah, I would
take a couple of days if they're kiss and a
half and Kam's that tarn like they'll just need it
eight or something like that, and it just it doesn't
seem like there's a lot of budget right now. And
I you know, I don't know, like there's two sides
of this franchise, legend all that stuff, Like probably he
probably deserves better is giving back money before. And they're
also a team that's you know, you kind of want
a team that that that's value and rides it. You know,
I would think there should probably be a little flex
for Cam. Him becoming a top ten NFL all time
stat guy in your jersey and finishing his career here
I think has value for everybody, and that's a moment.
It's probably you know, worth a couple million bucks to
have in your building and have a memory for your
fan base. But you know, I get it from both sides.
I'm just surprised that's playing out like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, catching up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans
Dot Football here on OTB. All right, Nick, I'm gonna
play this scenario out for the rest of the all season,
and you tell me how you would feel if this happened. Okay,
So for receiver, you look at what you have and
there's still veteran players out there. You've still got a
little bit of money to spend, and you go sign
Christian Kirk and Keenan Allen. They could be a one
year deal for Keenan Allen as two year deal for
Christian Kirk. After you do that, at eight, you do
take Monsieur Delaine out of LSU, So there's your corner.
And then at forty two you select cash is Hell
out of a and M or Derek Moore out of Michigan.
If they did that, how would you feel about what
the Saints have done this offseason?
Speaker 4: I feel like you kind of just solved the off
season right there. Thank you like it. It's not necessarily
the past that I would have laid out if you
told me to go in all the splanks, but I
like it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think, listen to me at owners meetings
coming up in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Uh, you're gonna be out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be out there.
Speaker 4: I'll see you out there. Yeah yeah, man. Like I
like I like the path though, I like to I
like the path. I like the way they're doing it.
I really want them to get the young wide receiver
somewhere in there. I just feel like there's a lot
of value in that. And you know, you could get
the the RC cool version of Joe Burrow and Jamar
Chase by taking Chris Bell. And you know, I you know,
it's it's it's a good soda, like it might not be.
Speaker 2: You think, like Bill's like a top seventy player, you
think maybe even in the third round, like he would
be available, or do you think you got to take
him at forty two?
Speaker 4: I think if you like the knee, if the knee
checks out, I think I think probably probably in the
second like it's there, if it's sketchy on the knee
and it's looking more like an in season thing, you know,
probably around three. I've also heard some you know, whispers
about you know, just maybe maybe you know the the
the personality a little bit, just like some of the
you know, I think there's just some some questions there,
and I think that's why he came. He came here
for a top thirty visit. So usually when you're bringing
a guy in it because you got some lingering questions
or you know, in the case of a quarterback or something,
you want to get some expensive time with him. But
you know, I think that they wanted to check out
the knee, talk to him. I know Tyler Shock loves
him man, so like you know, and there's obviously some
you know, just aggressiveness with how he plays, and I
think that's good. I think that's what this team needs.
I think this team needs some of that personality, you know.
And and I didn't get the sense that there were
there were minuses on him the knee. The knee will
be the big thing, that'll be the determining factor. But
if you like him, like before the nagery, like I think,
I think he was the top fifty player kind of
kind of universally, and then that kind of introduced some stuff.
And then coming out of the combine and there was
a couple like yeah, I don't know about like the
interview or whatever, but you know, I think I think
if he's healthy, I take him there and I'd love it.
Like kind of an a Brown type player, physicality, all
that stuff, and look Kellen more like for all the things,
like he knows how to handle those type of personalities,
Like all those guys in Philly, nobody was crying about
not eating there, Like he knows how to feed people.
You know, he he's young, recently played the game. I
think you understand if you have certain types of receivers,
they want to work, like they want you to give
them pasks to do what works, like you need to
get them involved more kind of does that. So I
think I think all this stuff will buying up. I
like them a lot, but I like your path man,
Like you get the bolster and corner is just starting
to feel better and better, and it's starting to feel
like maybe that's where you get the most bang for
your buck, Like yeah, I don't know, coming well, just
I mean.
Speaker 2: It's so deep at Edge Rusher that I feel like
at forty two you're still going to get a really
good player. You're not going to get the same corner
at forty two that you will get at eight. Now
I'm not saying you get the same guy at Edge Rusher,
but if I get cash as Ou out of A
and M, who I think is a hell on wheels
off the edge, like you're feeling good about it, where
I just don't know nick to that corner at forty
two is going to have that same feeling. Because if
we're talking about corner at forty two, it's probably somebody
maybe you can get a D'Angelo Ponce.
Speaker 3: Who I like a lot. He's got some some pisson
vinegar to him. He's five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that, Like
you can get the dress for there. Look, I think
you could probably get one in the third. And you
feel good about just rotational too, like there's just a
lot of guys, man. So yeah, but it's a forty two.
I like it. I mean, I feel like you get
production there. You know, maybe maybe he's your third, but
you feel like really good about where he's at and
the arrows pointing up. So I'm with you, man, Let's
do a turn in the cart.
Speaker 3: Hey, there we go. We did it. We figured it out.
NICKI the man.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you every single Tuesday morning, so much so
that we'll talk.
Speaker 3: To you next week.
Speaker 2: All right, man, all right, Nick Underhill, New Orleans stuff football,
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do want to talk about that pick for Carnel Tait
though when we come back, so do have Like I
think it's a good player. But I would have concerns
selecting a receiver at eight that I've never seen be
the one yep, because it wasn't a two to one situation.
It was a one and a two. And I'll tell
you what I mean with a two to one situation
when we come back here.
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Speaker 2: Now, look, I know our guy, Ross Jackson put out
a mock draft and he's got cardneal Tate going there.
I just don't like the pick because I see value
in other players and this receiver class, to me, does
not have the game changer that you're looking for.
Speaker 3: And again, I think cardial Tate's a good player. I
think he's gonna play a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to select that position at eight,
it's got to be a guy that is a no brainer,
right because this is there wasn't like a Jeremiah Smith
and cardneal Tate situation, or a Marvin Harrison junior carneal
Tate situation where it was Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase
that was two ones. This isn't two to one situation,
which is okay, doesn't matter mean you're a bad football player.
In fact, you're a good football player. I can't Sele
liked him at eight right now. I would rather sign
two veteran receivers you traded for vele a young player.
You've got Chris Olave who's still in the first contract,
so you've got some youth in the position. You are
not set at corner right now.
Speaker 3: Like when you look at the New Orleans Saints and
where they're at, you got kool aid and get them.
Speaker 2: At corner that ain't gonna play. You're going to go
get another game changer. And I think Monsieur Delaine is
that game changer. And again this has nothing to do
with him being an LSU Tiger, and it's everything to
do with him being the best corner in the draft.
And you're sitting there at eight. I don't think that
you can get the corner you're looking for at forty two.
I think you can get a good corner. I don't
think you can get a Pro Bowl, all pro type
corner like you can get at eight now, Ed Rusher,
I do think you can get the game changer. There's
gonna be so many guys that are available now you're
picking the seventies as well. If you went corner a
rusher receiver. I actually think if you do make those
signings of veteran guys, I like that. I think you've
done a great job. I just right now, there's not
a receiver at eight that I think changes the math
of your franchise and put you in a completely different position.
Like if you select the corner or even if you
wanted to go edge rusher, if somebody fell to you
at eight and you went edge rusher at eight, I
think that makes you a better football team than any
receiver in this draft.
Speaker 7: It's one of those things that you desperately need a
number one. You don't have a number one, and there's
one obvious path to take it, and let's take one
at number eight, and I get it. Some people say,
you know, is that too high for a men sword delaying,
it's a huge need for you. Like, I think you
have to take him because it's either him or Jermad McCoy,
And McCoy is not going to make it out of
the first round either. You could actually trade back if
you wanted him, but you can't trade out of the
first round.
Speaker 3: Missed all of last season, so do that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's coming off of an injury. I'd be
good with them. Like you said, either receiver, I mean
a corner, edge rusher receiver or flip it to go
corner receiver, edge rusher one, two, three, because there's a
lot of edge rushers in this class as well, Like
you could get a guy like Ramelo height in the
third round early if you're lucky like that. That's a
guy that played a lot of football this year and
had a lot of sacks. He's overshadowed by some of
his teammates, but a really good player, I mean, Chris
Bell will be there. Like Nick said, Chris Brazzle from
Tennessee actually had a really good year. Big body, ran
a good forty at the combine. There are a lot
of options for you in the second and third round.
Speaker 3: To your point.
Speaker 5: About wide receivers drafted number eight overall, did a little
quick search here of the wide receivers that have been
taken number eight overall in the NFL draft, and these
are kind of what your your comp would be if
you're looking to take some a Tedero McMillan went last
year number eight overall. Do you have a guy that
you believe can be that Drake London twenty twenty two
take an eight overall? Do you have a guy that
could be a comp with him? And then the next
one goes all the way back to David Boston back
in the day. Oh, I get yeah, overall, but you
have to you have to be real sure if you're
taking that guy. It's the same thing with Corner. To
your point, he like, if you're taking that guy eight overall, yeah, corner,
you're overdrafting at eight. And I've said that I don't
think they should take man Sore at eight. I love
man Sore and I would love for him to be
on the Saints. But trading back in the first round
is the answer to me. You trade, you're not going
to get Monster de Laye. You're not going to get him.
Speaker 3: It's fine. The Chiefs, the Bengals I'm not paying for
are all going to select him.
Speaker 2: That's fine. But I'm not overpaying for a corner, which
can hurt a team. You think eight's overpaying for a corner,
that's not rhetorical. Yeah you think so. You're thinking fifteen
double digits, double digits? Yeah, well if you if you
trade that, because there's value going to be there, because
an eight holds a lot of value for a trade partner,
especially in this draft.
Speaker 3: I mean, would I be mad, No, I don't be mad.
Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna stick my stick to my guns
on this situation where don't overpay a corner.
Speaker 5: And there's two types of capital. There's actual capital, there's money,
and there's draft capital right overpaying like you could trade
you obviously that an eight is way more valuable to
a trade partner than a ten. So like that's why
I say, And if he gets to the double digit
round picks, yeah, take a corner, that's fine, But like
single digit corner, it's hard for me to wrap my
head around because I just have not seen that workout
very often.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think there's a gap between where montsour
Delaine is and the next closest cornerback in this draft.
Speaker 3: So like you have to keep that in mind. If
you are the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: Now if Reuben Bain falls to you because people are like, oh,
he doesn't have thirty one inch arms, then you select
Ruben Bain. I think he's a game changer. He can
play across the board. I've seen him play a wide night,
I've seen him play a five, I've seen him play
a three.
Speaker 3: He can do all of those things at a really
high level.
Speaker 2: So like, if that situation happens, then yet you gotta
be smart and you can take the best player on
the board in a position of need.
Speaker 3: So there's ways the.
Speaker 2: Saints can play this, but no way for me is
selecting a receiver at eight the best way. I think
d Rusher I would be okay with corner. I do
not think this draft is a selected receiver at eight.
I would now like tedor Roe McMillan liked him better
than any receiver in this class, and he that's obvious choice.
I mean, yeah, offensive rookie the year like it panned
out and they were real certain he was going to Yeah,
and if you watch his table at Arizona, he was incredible.
I mean he can test to catch everything he did.
Speaker 5: If you're Mickey Limis, you have to say, is there
another tetor Roe McMillan, or is there another Drake London
in this Those are the comps at that specific pick
in the draft.
Speaker 3: Don't screw it up. You're in a great spot.
Speaker 2: Like, don't screw it up saying it's like eight right
now in this draft is a prime location spot because
I think a really good player is either going to
fall to you or you're going to have the opportunity
to get a desperate position of need.
Speaker 3: With your pick.
Speaker 5: My thing is, if they pick somebody, it's going to
split the opinion of your fan base. Right, if you
actually take somebody if you if you trade back, I
would think the majority of people are gonna like it.
Speaker 2: They would like it regardless of who it is, because
they'd be so excited on thee Yeah, I don't care
who you draft. Just trade back and then you're gonna
win in the quarter of public opinion. Yeah, all right,
we're long for a break. We'll take that break now
more ot B when we come back your way here
live from the Raising King studio.
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Speaker 2: Anybody got any plans for Saint Patrick's Day today? Like,
I know, we celebrated this weekend. Are we gonna do
anything Saint Patrick's Day related? Are we gonna, you know,
watch the Leprechaun movies, So we're gonna watch Boondock Saints
here for Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm gonna do anything exacond, I'm gonna
jam to this YouTube.
Speaker 7: No fish Orbano is at least. They are no fish
and chips for anyone.
Speaker 3: I love fish and chip to that those British, Yeah
it is Irish.
Speaker 7: I always see them in like Irish pub. I don't
really even like the Irish.
Speaker 3: I mean Northern Ireland is part of obviously the United Kingdom.
They have fishing. In fact, if you put Ireland in
the United Kingdom, they don't really like.
Speaker 5: That very much, which I get when I went. I
went to Ireland and a lot of bust plays. I
got a lot of smoked salmon. Okay, they like that.
Speaker 3: They have more natural the most places in America. Yeah,
the salmon. Some nice food there created. Yes, fish and
chips is definitely not.
Speaker 6: I thought it was British.
Speaker 7: I've had them in Irish pubs. I guess it's both.
Speaker 3: I mean Irish pub and it's got fish and chips.
So these Irish.
Speaker 7: It was the Irish pub and Universal Studios. It's a
little bit of class here. Okay, what are we doing?
Speaker 6: I just googled where did fish and chips originate? They
originated in England.
Speaker 3: You got some bad news, go ahead, sorry, I what
was the.
Speaker 6: Well? Okay, they were combined with Jewish fried fish techniques,
so they're actually Jewish. Okay, like Jewish immigrants from Portugal
and Spain brought fish and chips to London and Lancashire.
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Christian Kirk just agreed to a one year deal with
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Speaker 3: Healthy, doing pretty good. All right, Well, but we need
to too, and you can't afford Like Juwan Jennings is
gonna have to lower his price by the way. Yeah,
he's still out there.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you having self value, but the market
value was estimated to be twenty two point six per year. Dude,
you're you're a week in the free agency. Ain't getting
If you get that, it's gonna be like a literally
like a one year, heavy incentive based deal. So right now,
Juwan Jennings, Deebo, Samuel tyreek Hill, stephan On Diggs, Keenan Allen,
Hollywood Brown uh Sterling Shepherd Tim Patrick, who's forever back up.
Speaker 3: But he's got a roll you know in the NFL.
Speaker 7: If the price is low, I mean it's Jewan Jennings.
But to your point, like, what are you gonna get right?
Speaker 3: You tried Brandon Cooks last year. That didn't work.
Speaker 2: That's not the receiver you need. If you can do,
go get Keenan Allen and draft somebody in the third round.
Speaker 3: I feel much better about it.
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Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn, presented
by Community Steel, who was.
Speaker 2: On five Could Save Me, Food, Strange Wood, Desire.
Speaker 3: Make foolish people.
Speaker 2: Matt, who sings this song we did this to you
you so you have to write already, asked this question
about the song, Oh.
Speaker 3: I think I want one Guy's son. No, no, no,
that's Jacob Dylan of the Wallflowers. That one guy, that one.
Speaker 6: Did you know he's still alive he's actually coming to Batterie. Yeah,
at the Center Theater.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: I can't remember the two first names.
Speaker 3: Jeff George.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I actually do love that. Hell yeah, Jeff George.
Speaker 6: This is Jeff George.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's chritsiing, but it's now going to be Jeff
wicked game again. I won't remember it.
Speaker 6: Butm like we were saying Isaac is spelled with a
K instead.
Speaker 7: Of a C at the end, you would have been
right on Jacob Dylan would have been two first names.
Speaker 3: So see, so I got it.
Speaker 7: You're basically right.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going I'm not going to I'm
trying Chris Isaac, Chris Isaac with a K. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: Everybody complains in the chat how we don't do ask
the bench. Not one single asked the bench question in there,
not one single one. Here's actually I south it was one.
Would you rather be on home confinement for ten years
can't leave for any reason? Or be in state prison
for three years? I think state prison for three.
Speaker 7: Years sounds better than ten, so I'm gonna go with three.
Speaker 6: But also like state prison isn't what do you see
for any reason? I feel like people be vibing in
prison nowadays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't take three years like you know,
I'm gonna have to. You're gonna survive, dodge a couple
of shanks here and there.
Speaker 3: But I mean, so got an opportunity to join a
couple of friend groups.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, work careful, be careful, you choose,
you know which brotherhood you choose. Yeah, don't shave your head,
that's right.
Speaker 6: Got I love being at home. I'm a homebody. But
for ten years, I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Can I get like a like can it be a compound?
Go in the backyard and stuff?
Speaker 2: Hashtag asked a bench how we taking in the World
Baseball Classic tonight?
Speaker 3: Way I've been taking television.
Speaker 2: I think they meant like you're getting food, like you
in a restaurant, you go to a bar. We're going
to be I know that we got base We have
a baseball practice today. So the beginning of it's on
the phone. The other half will be.
Speaker 7: Will be will be official chips at the Irish the
local Irish club.
Speaker 5: And then again I'm gonna say it again, absolute coward.
Speaker 3: For not being available.
Speaker 2: Hashtag asked the bench is anyone else happy the trader.
Aaron Nola lost last night for the Italian American team.
Speaker 3: Hm hmmm. Actually would like to have him on the
American team m hm and bens of the team. That
was pretty electric stuff.
Speaker 2: Hashtag asked the bench is there anything more untrustworthy than
someone with three first names for their full name?
Speaker 6: Three first names? Have I ever come across somebody that's
three first names?
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johns had like James, Yeah, but like I just
don't you see it? If you meet a John, Hey,
so man John, Paul James, you're like Tommy John. Yeah.
Speaker 7: What's his middle name?
Speaker 3: John? His last name probably.
Speaker 6: Thomas, Jonathan, John Jeff.
Speaker 3: Hashtag ass the bench. Can you see baseball still making
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