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Speaker 2: My name is Tristan Yelton. I'm forty two years old.
Speaker 2: I am from Washington State and I've lived here all
Speaker 2: my life and growing up, I've always been interested in dinosaur's, bigfoot, lockedness, monster, Godzilla,
Speaker 2: alien and predator. You know a lot of the monster
Speaker 2: stuff growing up, and like I said, Bigfoot was a
Speaker 2: part of that. And I used to go to the
Speaker 2: library and check out a bunch of Bigfoot books and
Speaker 2: watch a bunch of Bigfoot documentary shows on TV, like
Speaker 2: In Search of Bigfoot with Robert W. Morgan and Mysterious
Speaker 2: Monsters with Peter Graves. Those were big influences on me
Speaker 2: in terms of my fascination with Bigfoot. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: growing up, I wasn't really interested in looking for Bigfoot
Speaker 2: because I thought there was enough people out there looking
Speaker 2: for it. But that all changed for me in February
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen when my father was taking out the trash
Speaker 2: one morning before going to work and there's a forested
Speaker 2: hill above our house over here. It's owned by Global
Speaker 2: Campbell now, but he used to be owned by Warehouser.
Speaker 2: And as he was taking the trash out one morning,
Speaker 2: he heard two whoops, two distinctive whoops on coming from
Speaker 2: this hill up here, on two opposite sides of the hill,
Speaker 2: like one whoop will go you know, you'll go whoop,
Speaker 2: and then the other there'll be another whoop that would
Speaker 2: answer it. And he my dad made it meant to
Speaker 2: note of that, and he thought it was really weird,
Speaker 2: and so he went on to work. He was going
Speaker 2: down the road here to work, and he told me
Speaker 2: that there was a herd of elk in the road
Speaker 2: and they're all looking up on the hill where those
Speaker 2: whoops are coming from. And he actually had that. He
Speaker 2: said that he had to swerve around the herd of
Speaker 2: elk like they're like they're all on the road, I guess,
Speaker 2: and he had to swerve around them to get the
Speaker 2: work that morning. And for whatever reason though, he didn't
Speaker 2: tell my mother and I about the whoops until we
Speaker 2: were watching a bigfoot show I think like a few
Speaker 2: weeks later. I won't say the name of the show,
Speaker 2: but we were watching a Bigfoot show, and he happened
Speaker 2: to mention he heard those whoops on the hill or
Speaker 2: my mother and I going, what you know, you didn't
Speaker 2: tell us that before, So I guess watching the Bigfoot
Speaker 2: show ignited reignited that memory for him. And so as
Speaker 2: soon as we could, my mother and I went up
Speaker 2: on the hill. She actually she was watching some Bigfoot
Speaker 2: videos about gifting, and she actually bought a jar of
Speaker 2: peanut butter from the store along with some Peter butter crackers,
Speaker 2: you know in those little plastic things. And we went
Speaker 2: up on this hill, went up on the hill across
Speaker 2: our house over here, and then we went up on
Speaker 2: this trail and there was this there was a little
Speaker 2: creek area up there that we went up to, and
Speaker 2: there was a there was an old logging road that
Speaker 2: went through this creek, and we thought if this was
Speaker 2: a sasquatch and maybe they were following this creek and
Speaker 2: going through this logging this old logging road up theres
Speaker 2: So we put the peanut butter jar and the peanut
Speaker 2: butter crackers on this It was on a log right
Speaker 2: next to the creek up there. And then there was
Speaker 2: a stump up there and I had an old audio
Speaker 2: recorder went without a USB connector, and so to get
Speaker 2: the sounds off of it, I would have to connect
Speaker 2: it to another audio recorder that had USB capabilities. So
Speaker 2: it was a pretty old audio recorder. It was an
Speaker 2: old Sony audio recorder. But anyway, I strapped that to
Speaker 2: a stump with the bungee cord and we left those overnight,
Speaker 2: and then when it came back the next morning, we
Speaker 2: went back up there the next morning. The peanut butter
Speaker 2: jar was open, the lid was on, the lid was
Speaker 2: on the ground, and inside the peanut butter jar were
Speaker 2: it looked like possible finger holes that dug deep down
Speaker 2: inside the peanut butter jar, and mostly the peanut butter
Speaker 2: was scooped out of it. It looked like and there
Speaker 2: was actually we think our dermer Bridge's fingerprints on the
Speaker 2: endside of the of the jar. And the peanut butter
Speaker 2: crackers were all opened, neatly opened. They weren't ripped open
Speaker 2: like maybe like a bear would do it, but they
Speaker 2: were neatly opened, and they were all gone. And my
Speaker 2: audio recorder was still on the stump, and there was
Speaker 2: no teeth or scratch marks on it, so I didn't
Speaker 2: think anything messed with it. Well, surprisingly, I went home
Speaker 2: and I listened to that audio recorder and about an
Speaker 2: hour after my mother and I left the night before,
Speaker 2: and it was getting dark by then, by the way,
Speaker 2: it was still getting dark at around six seven o'clock
Speaker 2: back then, So an hour after we left, you hear
Speaker 2: on the recorder you hear a weird humming sound, like
Speaker 2: a weird feedback kind of a sound, which I've never
Speaker 2: heard before. And then you can what I think you
Speaker 2: can hear is a woodnock and a whoop in the
Speaker 2: background right after it. And then about a few seconds later,
Speaker 2: you hear this thing. I don't know if it's one
Speaker 2: or two individuals, but you hear the food being messed with,
Speaker 2: like eating and messed with. I think that's when you
Speaker 2: hear the peanut butter jar being opened, and you know
Speaker 2: whatever it is is getting into the food. And then
Speaker 2: right after it's doing that, you hear it all. It
Speaker 2: suddenly stops, and then you hear it go oo, like
Speaker 2: a real deep, a real deep growl. And what I
Speaker 2: think happens is I think it sees my audio recorder
Speaker 2: because I had a little golden light. I think it
Speaker 2: probably saw that and then all of a sudden, whatever
Speaker 2: this thing is, it comes over to the art recorder
Speaker 2: and it's she starts fumbling with it and growling at
Speaker 2: it as it's fumbling with it while making this humming
Speaker 2: sound at the same time with its growling, and uh,
Speaker 2: it just does that for a few seconds and then
Speaker 2: everything stops and then that's pretty much it of the recording.
Speaker 2: And you know, again that shocked me because there was
Speaker 2: no teeth marks, there's no scratch marks on the on
Speaker 2: the recorder at all. It didn't like to me, it
Speaker 2: didn't look like it was touched at all. It was
Speaker 2: still you know, it was still strapped at the stump
Speaker 2: with a bungee cord. So that really shocked me to
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to listen to that with the
Speaker 2: headphones like for the first time, you know, Like it
Speaker 2: was really shocking to hear that on the audio. So
Speaker 2: that was my even though I can't say that I
Speaker 2: was I don't know if that was a bigfoot or
Speaker 2: not that did that because I didn't see it, But
Speaker 2: that was the catalyst for me getting into big foot research.
Speaker 2: And uh, like I said, this happened in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: and I've been researching ever since, so it's it's been
Speaker 2: about ten years now, and so yeah, that that was
Speaker 2: just my my start into bigfoot research. And then we
Speaker 2: went back up on the hill up here and we tried,
Speaker 2: we tried putting out more food and more audio recorders,
Speaker 2: but we weren't getting anything. So I think whatever that
Speaker 2: thing was did not like what we what we put on.
Speaker 2: It's on its route, so to speak. I don't think
Speaker 2: it liked you know that we put equipment up there
Speaker 2: and electronic equipment. I don't think it. I think it
Speaker 2: thinks that it was you know, it was caught, so
Speaker 2: to speak, so I think that might have changed the route.
Speaker 2: I personally think that if it's a Sasquatch, it was
Speaker 2: probably falling the creek around that ridge up there, because
Speaker 2: there's like a creek that flows down that whole freaking
Speaker 2: hill up there, So I think it was following that
Speaker 2: down the creek. So it was weird because we kept going.
Speaker 2: We even put a game case I'm up there, and
Speaker 2: we can't even capture anything. So we kind of abandoned
Speaker 2: that spot. Because soon afterward they there was some kind
Speaker 2: of contractor from California came in and bought that part
Speaker 2: of land up there, and there they logged down a
Speaker 2: bunch of trees and everything, so it was right now,
Speaker 2: it's like it's kind of growing back, but the whole
Speaker 2: forest up there was kind of bowdoles down, So I
Speaker 2: think if it was a Sasquatch that they totally moved
Speaker 2: out from that area. So my mother and I were
Speaker 2: checking the BFRL website for different spots around Washington State
Speaker 2: that have had sightings and reports, and one of the
Speaker 2: spots is a lake near us. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I should say the name of the lake, but it's
Speaker 2: a pretty popular lake. It's about fifteen minutes away from
Speaker 2: where I live. But it's had a few sightings up there,
Speaker 2: especially one I'll just say that where a couple of
Speaker 2: hikers saw one drinking from a stream and they described
Speaker 2: it having legs like a Clyde Stale. If anybody knows
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, they'll they'll probably know which wake
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But there's but there's been siding reports
Speaker 2: up in there, and in fact, uh there's a reservoir.
Speaker 2: There's a a watershed and a reservoir up there where
Speaker 2: they actually take you on these buses so you can
Speaker 2: take these little tours, and on the tours they'll even
Speaker 2: mentioned that there's been historic bigfoot reports up there, So
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty interesting. And I've also, I
Speaker 2: think I've believe I've found some possible juvenile footprints up
Speaker 2: at this slave before, even in the snow. There's we
Speaker 2: found uh, possible trackways in the snow up there before.
Speaker 2: So next to this lake, there's a there's a trail
Speaker 2: that kind of goes up this hill, this little small
Speaker 2: mountain that's actually next to a smaller lake. And I
Speaker 2: had a friend that used to live near this hill,
Speaker 2: and he said he used to hear some weird sounds
Speaker 2: at night, including owls and some other weird vocalizations. So
Speaker 2: I went up there with my Golden retriever about a
Speaker 2: few months later after this event up on my near
Speaker 2: my house happened. It was still it was in the
Speaker 2: spring of twenty fifteen. I took my Golden retrievering up
Speaker 2: there up there with me, and it was in the
Speaker 2: late afternoon and I was going up this trail up
Speaker 2: on the hill, and one thing I want to mention
Speaker 2: is there was a there was an arch, like a
Speaker 2: limb arch going over the trail This was one of
Speaker 2: the first things I saw. But I'm not a big
Speaker 2: I'm not a big guy into stick structures because I
Speaker 2: don't I think stick structures could be made by many
Speaker 2: different things, like even naturally. But this thing kind of
Speaker 2: stood out to me because it was an art that
Speaker 2: went over the whole trail basically, and it was tinned
Speaker 2: down on the other side of the trail with another stick,
Speaker 2: which I thought was really weird. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: looked natural, and if a person did it, why would
Speaker 2: a person do it unless they were really bored. But
Speaker 2: that was really weird for me to see. That was
Speaker 2: like the first thing I saw when I went up
Speaker 2: this trail, And so I kept walking on this trail
Speaker 2: and eventually the trail splits, it goes down another pathway
Speaker 2: and goes up, and I happened to look to the
Speaker 2: side of the trail and the gravel and where it
Speaker 2: was going up, and I thought it saw a possible
Speaker 2: footprint going coming down this hill, you know, in the
Speaker 2: opposite direction. But it was it looked like the shape
Speaker 2: of a footprint in the gravel. You can see the toes,
Speaker 2: and it looked pretty flat to me, So I said, oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. So I decided to take my dog up
Speaker 2: this hill, up this trail here. And as we're a
Speaker 2: few feet up the trail, about fifty yards away from me,
Speaker 2: up on this ridge we started here, I heard some
Speaker 2: movement up on this ridge, like something walking, something heavy walking,
Speaker 2: and my dog actually froze and was looking in that
Speaker 2: same direction. And the most interesting part of that, part
Speaker 2: of this for me, is that my dog was My
Speaker 2: dog was a Golden Retriever and he would chase after everything,
Speaker 2: you know, like deer elk. I mean, he would he
Speaker 2: would go after everything that he sees, and this whatever
Speaker 2: this thing was, he had no he didn't want any
Speaker 2: part of it. He actually laid down behind me, and
Speaker 2: he's never done that before, so that was really weird
Speaker 2: behavior for him. So I looked up on this on
Speaker 2: this ridge and there was like a there was a
Speaker 2: row of trees on this ridge, and there was this big, tall,
Speaker 2: dark thing. I can't couldn't get any detail because it
Speaker 2: was the trees are pretty close together to each other,
Speaker 2: but I could see this dark thing moving in between
Speaker 2: these trees up there on the ridge, and uh, to me,
Speaker 2: it looked like it was trying to I think it
Speaker 2: was trying to get a better look at me and
Speaker 2: my dog. To be honest, that's what it looked like
Speaker 2: to me. It was like it was kind of slowly
Speaker 2: pacing through those trees.
Speaker 1: This is this.
Speaker 2: It was trying to be silent and quiet. But you
Speaker 2: can hear it because you can hear branches breaking, and
Speaker 2: it sounded heavy to me. When it was walking. You
Speaker 2: can actually hear like kind of thumps.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But it was just moving between these trees and uh,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you just hear it. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I just froze, uh with my dog,
Speaker 2: and I just stood there. I was hoping if it
Speaker 2: was a big foot there, it would actually really show itself,
Speaker 2: but it didn't. It just I think it I think
Speaker 2: it was I don't know. I think it was confused
Speaker 2: of what it should do, because at one point it
Speaker 2: actually stopped and I was waiting for it to show itself,
Speaker 2: but it didn't. It just stood there and uh, in
Speaker 2: between the trees. And then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 2: hear this. You hear walking back into the woods, like
Speaker 2: you can hear these stumps as it was walking back
Speaker 2: in the woods, like further back in the woods, like
Speaker 2: I think it. I think it got tired of looking
Speaker 2: at me and my dog. I guess, but again, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a big foot. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if it was a person. But like I said,
Speaker 2: you can hear the heavy footsteps on it, and it
Speaker 2: looked tall and dark to me, and you know, and
Speaker 2: finding that footprint in the gravel and my dog's behavior,
Speaker 2: my dog laying down behind me was the weirdest thing
Speaker 2: about that hole, because, like I said, he would chase
Speaker 2: after anything, any kind of animal, so he knew that
Speaker 2: there was something odd in front of us. And so
Speaker 2: after that event happened, and we went back down the
Speaker 2: hill and it was getting kind of it was getting
Speaker 2: late in the afternoon, was actually kind of getting dar
Speaker 2: it was getting late in the afternoon. We ran into
Speaker 2: a hiker that was coming up with this German shepherd
Speaker 2: and I ran into him and I said, dude, there's
Speaker 2: something on this there's something up the hill up here.
Speaker 2: It's big. I don't know what it is. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a bear. I have no idea, but
Speaker 2: please be careful. And then surprisingly he goes, he goes, well,
Speaker 2: had he goes, I have a neighbor that told me
Speaker 2: that he saw a big foot running through my yard
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks prior, a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: he didn't he wasn't surprised of me telling him this. Basically,
Speaker 2: he was like, he didn't seem shocked at all. And
Speaker 2: and this neighborhood has actually been talked about on other
Speaker 2: podcasts before, like other people have had sightings around this
Speaker 2: neighborhood before, and like I said, they're just BFO BFR
Speaker 2: reports from this area over the years, So I'm not
Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that that might
Speaker 2: have been a possible sasquatch, But I have no idea
Speaker 2: that was. That's just one of the strangest things that's
Speaker 2: ever happened to me. And I was pretty shook up
Speaker 2: by it too, because you know that that was I mean,
Speaker 2: if it was a big foot, that was basically my
Speaker 2: first real bigfoot experience, and it kind of even though
Speaker 2: I couldn't see it like a class A sighting, it
Speaker 2: kind of still shook you to the core. It was.
Speaker 2: It was pretty crazy, especially with my dog's behavior. I
Speaker 2: can't get over that the fact that he laid down
Speaker 2: me hint me like that. That was just really odd.
Speaker 2: So that was my first if you want to call
Speaker 2: it encounter, again, I can't say it's bigfoot, but it's
Speaker 2: something unexplainable. But again I I, I guess I'll call
Speaker 2: it an encounter of something that's unexplainable. And and to
Speaker 2: go into my next encounter, which is even more perplexing
Speaker 2: to me, a couple of years later, a couple of
Speaker 2: years later, my parents and I and my golden retriever
Speaker 2: went up to this went up to another trail that's
Speaker 2: two hours two hours away from where. It's two hours
Speaker 2: into the forest and mountains from where I had that
Speaker 2: first hill experience with the thing with the peanut butter jar.
Speaker 2: It's up in that area, but way two hours away
Speaker 2: from it, and it's in a pretty remote area, but
Speaker 2: it's two hours away from me. And one afternoon we
Speaker 2: drove up there to this trail head and there was
Speaker 2: no other cars there. It's just our car, our car.
Speaker 2: But again you have to drive really far back in
Speaker 2: there and lots lots of woods, lots of mountains, so
Speaker 2: it's pretty remote. And we drove up there one more
Speaker 2: one afternoon. It was in the for known basically, and
Speaker 2: we were and I've never been here before. I've never
Speaker 2: been there before. This trail. I don't know if my
Speaker 2: parents did. I can't remember if they'd been up there before,
Speaker 2: but I've never been up there. Anyway, it's like a
Speaker 2: nature trail. And we were walking on this nature trail
Speaker 2: up there with my dog and there's a part there's
Speaker 2: a there's a concrete bridge up there, an old railroad,
Speaker 2: concrete bridge with four foot rails on five foot five
Speaker 2: five foot six, so it's like I think there were
Speaker 2: like four foot rails, concrete rails, and this bridge went
Speaker 2: over this small stream and river. It was kind of
Speaker 2: a loud little stream, and I guess you can kind
Speaker 2: of call it a river because it's kind of pretty loud.
Speaker 2: The water is pretty loud. But anyway, down below this bridge,
Speaker 2: there's a there was a sandbar down there, and I
Speaker 2: really wanted to see those footprints down there, because it
Speaker 2: looked like a nice little sandbar that could you know,
Speaker 2: preserved some prints if they were down there. So I
Speaker 2: asked my parents if it feels okay with them, if
Speaker 2: they kept walking with my dog up the trail past
Speaker 2: the bridge, you know, and I went down and if
Speaker 2: I can go down below and look at the you know,
Speaker 2: look for footprints. And they said, sure, go ahead. So
Speaker 2: there was a little trail that went down to the sandbar,
Speaker 2: and I went down there and my parents kept walking
Speaker 2: and I was looking around the sandbar, and unfortunately I
Speaker 2: didn't see any footprints of anything. Actually, I happened to
Speaker 2: look back up on the to the bridge, and I
Speaker 2: have no reason. I don't know why I did this, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what made me want to look back up,
Speaker 2: but I did. I looked back up to the bridge
Speaker 2: and with the sun shining behind it, I mean, it
Speaker 2: was kind of illuminated up there. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I saw this. H I saw the top half of
Speaker 2: this animal, like the top, like the head and back
Speaker 2: and shoulders of this animal, Christy, this four foot concrete
Speaker 2: barrier or rail on the bridge, and it had long
Speaker 2: and the craziest part about it because I thought it
Speaker 2: was my golden retriever. It had golden blonde flowing fur
Speaker 2: or hair coming off of it. Like it was long,
Speaker 2: longer than any kind of animal that I'm aware of
Speaker 2: that's in the wild. Like it wasn't an elk, you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a cougar, deer or a bear. I mean
Speaker 2: in terms of hair length, this thing like it was
Speaker 2: like a shaggy dog. Basically, it was like a flowing
Speaker 2: the hair was flowing. It was like long flowing hair
Speaker 2: on it, you know, And like I said, it was golden,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was At first. I thought it
Speaker 2: was like I was wearing, is my golden retriever coming back?
Speaker 2: But actually the size of it was it looked even
Speaker 2: bigger than my own dog. So but I just I
Speaker 2: can just remember the flowing hair on this thing, like
Speaker 2: as it ran by, it actually came from the direction
Speaker 2: that my parents walked up to. It was coming back
Speaker 2: in the opposite direction from where they walked up to.
Speaker 2: So I personally think that whatever this animal was was
Speaker 2: spooked by my parents and my dog coming towards it,
Speaker 2: so to speak. You know, it was probably up there
Speaker 2: hiding or something and was waiting for you know, me,
Speaker 2: even me to go down to the you know, down
Speaker 2: below of the bridge. It was waiting for an opportunity
Speaker 2: to you know, to sneak by, And so I just
Speaker 2: happened to catch a few second glimpse of this thing
Speaker 2: with long flowing golden hair, and like I said, I
Speaker 2: thought it was my golden retriever and I I ran,
Speaker 2: I ran right back up the right, right right back
Speaker 2: up to the bridge, and I tried to follow the thing,
Speaker 2: but it was long gone. So I went back to
Speaker 2: the bridge and I waited for my parents to come back,
Speaker 2: and they came back with my dog, and I said,
Speaker 2: my dog. My dog's name was Puppy. And I asked him,
Speaker 2: Puppy to get get away from you at all, and
Speaker 2: they said, no, he's with us the whole time. So, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know what that thing was. But like I said,
Speaker 2: I don't know if any other animal in the state
Speaker 2: with that kind of long hair. And unless somebody lost
Speaker 2: a dog up there, a big dog, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: But like I said, there was nobody else up there,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's pretty crazy, like that's the first
Speaker 2: time I've ever gone to that spot and then that occurs. Well,
Speaker 2: and one other thing I want to mention when I
Speaker 2: was up there before I went down below the bridge.
Speaker 2: I think people experience this too, But when you're near water,
Speaker 2: water can sometimes make some weird you know, like even
Speaker 2: voice sounds Like I think when the water hits the rocks.
Speaker 2: It makes some weird sounds it makes. It makes you
Speaker 2: think you're hearing voices or something. But I personally think
Speaker 2: I thought I heard some possible little whoops like coming
Speaker 2: from the forest ahead of us, But I thought it
Speaker 2: was maybe the river, the water making that sound. But
Speaker 2: I thought I heard a possible a couple of whoops
Speaker 2: coming from that forest ahead of us. But I didn't
Speaker 2: think too much of it until now looking back on it.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if that I don't know
Speaker 2: if that went with the thing that I saw. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that was actually whoops I heard or
Speaker 2: or what. But I always will remember that too. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that those two for me, in terms of visual encounters,
Speaker 2: those are the most significant encounters that I've I guess
Speaker 2: you could say that I've had. And a possible Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I can't explain this thing with the flowing long hair
Speaker 2: I've I know a few people who have seen blonde,
Speaker 2: blondish haired bigfoot. And but in terms of the length
Speaker 2: of the hair, I mean, this thing had to be
Speaker 2: four four inches there more like in terms of hairlin
Speaker 2: it was really shaggy, you know, I guess the closest
Speaker 2: thing is to my go to rechiever. That's the only
Speaker 2: thing I could think of. But it definitely wasn't a
Speaker 2: gold to retriever. But the hair color and that kind
Speaker 2: of hair that I had was pretty close, I guess,
Speaker 2: but I'll never forget that. That that second one, that
Speaker 2: second encounter for me is like, you know, I wish
Speaker 2: I had a camera. I would I had a camera
Speaker 2: looking at looking for footprints, but when when I saw
Speaker 2: that thing run across the breavee man, I it was
Speaker 2: so quick, it happened in like a few seconds. I
Speaker 2: didn't even think of pointing my camera up there in
Speaker 2: on my phone to catch a picture of it. But
Speaker 2: I wish I did. I wish I was filming that
Speaker 2: because that was that was really crazy to see. You know,
Speaker 2: you would expect like a gear or an elg to
Speaker 2: run by, but you don't expect an animal with that
Speaker 2: kind of hair, that kind of length of hair, and
Speaker 2: that kind of color of hair to run by. So
Speaker 2: in terms of visual encounters, yeah, those who were the
Speaker 2: most significant for me. Over the years, I've been camping
Speaker 2: all over Washington State, including a place called Bumping Lake,
Speaker 2: which I know I've told another podcast and I've captured
Speaker 2: I think some possible chatter and vocalizations at different campsite
Speaker 2: at primitive campsites out there. And the most significant event
Speaker 2: that happened to me was in July July eighteenth, twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: when my mother and I were camping in a primitive
Speaker 2: camp up there called California Camp. And it was just
Speaker 2: my mother and I up in this camp and at
Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning, we were sleeping in our tents.
Speaker 2: In our tent, we slept in one tent two o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning, this really loud will pal. It sounds
Speaker 2: pretty close to the Snowhomish recordings from the seventies. That's
Speaker 2: as soon as I heard it. It woke me up
Speaker 2: out of sleep. But as soon as I heard it,
Speaker 2: I knew what it was like, I had a feeling.
Speaker 2: I knew what it was. It was. It was a really,
Speaker 2: really loud whoopal, kind of similar to the snow Almost recordings.
Speaker 2: And then after that thing shines off you hear on
Speaker 2: the recording, you hear, well, this was a lot of
Speaker 2: thing I've ever heard in person. It was like being
Speaker 2: at a concert. It was so loud, but you hear
Speaker 2: like these possible female and possible children vocals falling in it,
Speaker 2: following in it like the male vocal would chime off
Speaker 2: first and then like the female, possible female and kid vocals.
Speaker 2: It was like an opera. It was like a chorus.
Speaker 2: I call it the chorus audio. Well, these things they
Speaker 2: are extremely loud. This went on for thirty minutes and NonStop,
Speaker 2: and like I said, it was it was like being
Speaker 2: at a concert. There was a lot of thing I've
Speaker 2: ever heard ever, and unfortunately my mother didn't have the
Speaker 2: best hearing and in fact, you can hear it in
Speaker 2: the odd in the full recording. I was I was
Speaker 2: really frustrated that she couldn't hear this because she wanted
Speaker 2: me to wake her up if I heard anything, and
Speaker 2: I woke her up and I was asking her, could
Speaker 2: you hear this? Can you hear this? And she said no,
Speaker 2: she couldn't. But it was the loudest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: It was. I mean, I can't imagine anybody hoaxing me
Speaker 2: with those kind of sounds. I've never heard anything like
Speaker 2: that in my life. I've never heard any recordings like that.
Speaker 2: So if somebody was call blasting these sounds or hoaxing
Speaker 2: me in some way, they did a really good job,
Speaker 2: because you would have to have a heck of a
Speaker 2: pair of lungs to do with these things were doing,
Speaker 2: and to do this for thirty minutes NonStop was insane
Speaker 2: to hear. And you know, I was scared in those moments,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, really I just wanted to listen.
Speaker 2: I just sat there and listened and h well, I
Speaker 2: tried to I tried to listen. I was still kind
Speaker 2: of talking to my mom, like trying to get her
Speaker 2: to listen to these sounds, which she couldn't, so that
Speaker 2: was frustrating me. But I was too scared to get
Speaker 2: on my tent. I didn't want to go look to
Speaker 2: see what these what was making these sounds, And in fact,
Speaker 2: where these sounds were coming from was in another what
Speaker 2: I believe was another primitive camp spot behind on the
Speaker 2: other side of the road from our campsite. I think
Speaker 2: they're coming from a swamp area. There's like a swamp
Speaker 2: metal area in this other primitive camp spot that was
Speaker 2: behind us, and I personally think some if not all,
Speaker 2: of those were coming from that spot, and those were
Speaker 2: pretty close to the lake itself too, So maybe there
Speaker 2: was one at the lake and then maybe the other
Speaker 2: ones were at the swamp. I'm not totally sure, but
Speaker 2: but the acoustics of this area was insane. It was
Speaker 2: just because you have this mountain range, you have the lake,
Speaker 2: and then you have the mountain range on two different sides,
Speaker 2: so like the amount of sound it was just incredible.
Speaker 2: It was I don't know, like I said, you wrapped it.
Speaker 2: You would have to have the biggest pair of lungs
Speaker 2: ever to do what these things are doing. And for
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, NonStop, it's just like NonStop, no rest basically.
Speaker 2: So for me, that was like the biggest moment for
Speaker 2: me in terms of bigfoot research. And unfortunately, there's been
Speaker 2: some wildfires in this in that area. In fact, about
Speaker 2: a year after this occurred, there was a wildfire that
Speaker 2: kind of devastated the area, and just about a the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks there's been another fire that's gone
Speaker 2: through that area. So if there's bigfoot around, I think
Speaker 2: it might have scared them off or moved them around,
Speaker 2: because I didn't ever since that event, I didn't get
Speaker 2: much activity in those in in that camp spot and
Speaker 2: in those surrounding spots, So I think wildfires have a
Speaker 2: major impact on on the Sasquatch up. That's what I
Speaker 2: was hearing. And like I said, uh, and before July
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, I was capturing some chatter and in weird
Speaker 2: vocalizations and other camp spots around there. I think they
Speaker 2: were observing. I think they're observing people at the campfire.
Speaker 2: And uh, I was putting up bott recorders. Like there's
Speaker 2: a one of the other camp spots called Rock Camp.
Speaker 2: There's a little hill and it over this little hill
Speaker 2: overlooks the camp spot campsite, and then it overlooks the uh,
Speaker 2: the main campfire, and we have little camp outs there
Speaker 2: and I would put the recorders up on the hill there.
Speaker 2: And if these were Sasquatch, I think the juvenile Sasquatch
Speaker 2: were coming in and they're watching us. And I was
Speaker 2: capturing these weird language sounds on there, like native sounding sounds.
Speaker 2: It didn't sound like the Sierra sounds. It sounded more
Speaker 2: like some kind of weird native primitive language. To me,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Sierra sounds aren't real, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I've never heard the Sierra sounds before. And
Speaker 2: actually I the Sierra sounds is something I wanted to
Speaker 2: capture up on the hill next to our house up here.
Speaker 2: I was hoping to get that on audio. Of course
Speaker 2: we've got something else, so so yeah, I know, I've
Speaker 2: been around all over Washington State. I'm in different lakes
Speaker 2: and trying to find footprints. I found many possible juvenile
Speaker 2: footprints along these lakes, including Bumping Lake and the lake
Speaker 2: that's near us. I think the juveniles will frequent those
Speaker 2: lakes for whoever reasons. I have no idea why, but
Speaker 2: maybe they're looking for crawfish or fish and or other things.
Speaker 2: But I do think the bigfoot do like the lakes,
Speaker 2: and I think there's a lot of activity around those lakes.
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I'm still waiting for my confirmation siting.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been doing this for ten years now,
Speaker 2: and I don't know. I mean, you kind of get
Speaker 2: a little bit of a burnout, so to speak, you know,
Speaker 2: for doing this for this long. And I don't know
Speaker 2: what needs to happen for a confirmation siting for me,
Speaker 2: you know. I you know, some people will say, well,
Speaker 2: what about that audio that you captured, isn't that enough?
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I still want the confirmation setting. I
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time and money and effort doing this, just like everybody
Speaker 2: else is doing in this subject. And I don't know
Speaker 2: these things. They're just so elusive. It's uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I if I if I never, if I never get
Speaker 2: a confirmation siding fine, I mean, I know what happens
Speaker 2: with people. But right now I'm kind of just taking
Speaker 2: a break from researching. I need to, I guess I
Speaker 2: need to refocus myself. And one other thing I want
Speaker 2: to mention is, uh, there's a one of our We
Speaker 2: have a research area up on this mountain here about
Speaker 2: ten minutes away from us, and we we captured something
Speaker 2: on a plot watcher and actually in August twenty twenty
Speaker 2: to me, it looks like a gorilla on all fours.
Speaker 2: We put a plotwatch up on this up on the
Speaker 2: stump that kind of overlooks this little goalie up on
Speaker 2: this mountain mountain up here, and I wanted to go
Speaker 2: up to this mountain because it kind of it's kind
Speaker 2: of similar to the hill that's up above our house
Speaker 2: over here. I think I think the Sasquatch like high places,
Speaker 2: and they'll travel to these little high places they like
Speaker 2: being high up and you know, if you got water
Speaker 2: and if you got food sources around, that's the perfect
Speaker 2: environment for them. So we went up on the small
Speaker 2: mountain over here and we put up this plot watcher.
Speaker 2: A plot watcher is a a camera that will I
Speaker 2: don't know even know if they make these anymore, but
Speaker 2: it's a camera that would take these still photographs like
Speaker 2: every five seconds, and then when you watch it back,
Speaker 2: it'll be like a time lapse video, so it will
Speaker 2: go by really like when you're watching it, it goes
Speaker 2: by really quickly. But but we put a we put
Speaker 2: this plotwatcher up on the stump overlooking the scully because
Speaker 2: down in the goalie there there was a we were
Speaker 2: finding some possible footprints, like a lot of traffic down
Speaker 2: in this goalie part in the in the ground, and
Speaker 2: so we wanted to try to capture whatever was walking
Speaker 2: through there. And on the plot watcher, you see this gorilla.
Speaker 2: To me, it looks like a gorilla on all fours
Speaker 2: running by, running through the goalie, like going from left
Speaker 2: to right, and you only see it for a few
Speaker 2: Like I said, when you watch it back, it's in frames.
Speaker 2: It's not in FULK video. But to me, it doesn't
Speaker 2: look like a bear. There are black bear up there,
Speaker 2: but to me, this doesn't look like a bear. It
Speaker 2: looks more like a gorilla. And other people who have
Speaker 2: viewed it also think it could be something other than
Speaker 2: a bearer. But in terms of like visual something captured visually,
Speaker 2: that's really the only thing significant that we have. And
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that it's in frames like that, and it's
Speaker 2: in seven to twenty p it's not the best resolution,
Speaker 2: and the subject's kind of far when a plot watcher
Speaker 2: is far away from the object, but you can see it.
Speaker 2: Whatever this thing is is big, you know, looks like
Speaker 2: I say, it looks like a gorilla running an all fours,
Speaker 2: a squadrupedal. It looks like it has a human way
Speaker 2: gorilla form to it in my opinion. So so yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I I've been doing this for ten years
Speaker 2: and I and I'm happy with some of the things
Speaker 2: I've captured, but at the same time I don't At
Speaker 2: the same time, I'm not really I still am not
Speaker 2: sure that I have bigfoot, Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: I have bigfoot on this audio or these pictures in video.
Speaker 2: I still don't know. What's making these footprints. So that's
Speaker 2: the frustrating part for me. You know, I've been doing
Speaker 2: this for ten years and I'm not I've captured some things,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is. You know, I
Speaker 2: can't say for sure it's bigfoot, that's right. Actually I
Speaker 2: tell people, you know, with my evidence that or if
Speaker 2: you want to call it evidence, maybe data maybe maybe
Speaker 2: maybe a better word is data. But it's it's tough
Speaker 2: to collect all this data over the years and you
Speaker 2: can't really say for sure it's bigfoot, but it's unexplainable
Speaker 2: it could be. So, you know, like I said, right now,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of taking a break from the subject. I
Speaker 2: just need I just need time to regroup myself and
Speaker 2: figure out what to do next, because I've been I've
Speaker 2: been researching all over the place. I've been going on
Speaker 2: a lot of camp outs and but lately, unfortunately, I
Speaker 2: haven't had much If you want to collectivity happen. So
Speaker 2: I just need to refocus and figure out what to
Speaker 2: do next. And oh and one other thing I want
Speaker 2: to mention. My mother found some possible bigfoot scat near
Speaker 2: near Mountaineer a few years ago, and the scat is
Speaker 2: as big as a coke can. We actually have an
Speaker 2: in a freezer in our basement, went in our garage actually,
Speaker 2: but she collected two scat samples and they're pretty big.
Speaker 2: Definitely not a bear. It's pretty much like double the
Speaker 2: size of a human sky but really large. And she
Speaker 2: found that twenty feet from a gifting stump that she had.
Speaker 2: She was gifting more food in an area near Mountaineer
Speaker 2: and she happened to find a scat twenty feet away
Speaker 2: from a gifting stump that she had, And that was
Speaker 2: around twenty seventeen and we've had that ever since in
Speaker 2: an inn freezer downstairs. And like I said, they're the
Speaker 2: size of a coke can. So and we've had a
Speaker 2: researcher look at him and he thinks they're he thinks
Speaker 2: it's probably bigfoot. So in terms of physical evidence like that,
Speaker 2: that's really physical evidence. It's really the only thing that
Speaker 2: we have that we have other than some casts. But
Speaker 2: I don't even of those casts that we have a
Speaker 2: footprints are or bigfoot. We even have a we even
Speaker 2: have a small juvenile possible juvenile hand cast too that
Speaker 2: we cast a pumping lake. But yeah, I mean, I've
Speaker 2: been really into audio. I've been really into capturing audio,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I I love doing it, but
Speaker 2: it's really a pain because you got to sit there
Speaker 2: and you got to listen through hours and hours of
Speaker 2: audio to find something and then you know, when you
Speaker 2: find something that's cool, but you know, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a long process, and uh, you know, I really love
Speaker 2: doing I really love capturing audio. But when you don't
Speaker 2: capture audio, yeah, like I I haven't really captured anything
Speaker 2: significant in a while, so it's been it's been pretty
Speaker 2: frustrating for me. But yeah, like I said, where I
Speaker 2: am now, I'm just kind of taking a break from
Speaker 2: the subject in terms of research and just for or
Speaker 2: not what to do next. And hopefully, hopefully soon I
Speaker 2: have that confirmation sighting if and when I get back
Speaker 2: out there. But you know, it's been it's been an
Speaker 2: interesting journey so far. You know, whoever thought I would
Speaker 2: been able to capture things I have that I have captured,
Speaker 2: never would have thought that would have happened, especially those
Speaker 2: vocals that are bumping like the chorus audio those That
Speaker 2: was the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life. Ah,
Speaker 2: And I hope other people get to experience that because
Speaker 2: it's I mean again, if somebody was hoaxing me, if
Speaker 2: somebody was hoaxing me with those vocals, somehow they did
Speaker 2: a really good job because it's I don't know, that
Speaker 2: was just the most insane thing I've ever heard. So
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and going forward, I'm hoping to
Speaker 2: make a an audio library. I would love to make
Speaker 2: an audio library, like a database where like everybody, like
Speaker 2: even David Ellis, Chris Spencer and o the people that
Speaker 2: that capture and get audio from people, maybe we can
Speaker 2: create a database together of possible bigfoot sounds, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like kind of like a database like you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, they have the Autobond or you know,
Speaker 2: the different wildlife audio databases out there, so maybe we
Speaker 2: can make one for possible bigfoot. I think that would
Speaker 2: be very helpful for people. And so that's one of
Speaker 2: my goals other than getting in confirmation setting. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my story right now. Honestly, it's been a heg
Speaker 2: of a journey.
Speaker 1: It sure sounds like it's been Wow, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you're just a humble investigator. Tristan It
Speaker 1: doesn't give himself nearly enough credit. For his accomplishments. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'm impressed. That's a fact. And
Speaker 1: you talk about you want to have a confirmation siding, well,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you already had one at that railroad bridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true, because again I
Speaker 2: can't I can't explain what that was, you know, and
Speaker 2: you know I've seen I've seen, I've seen everything around here.
Speaker 2: I've seen deer Mountain, lion bear, and I know I
Speaker 2: know that wasn't any of those kind of things. So
Speaker 2: you're probably right that probably was my confirmation signing. I
Speaker 2: just I guess I just want to see that face.
Speaker 2: You know, I always want to see a big foot face.
Speaker 2: So the fact that I didn't get to see the
Speaker 2: face frustrates me. I know I say frustrated a lot,
Speaker 2: but that's that frustrated me. But you're right, that's probably
Speaker 2: was my confirmation siding for sure, because I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything like it since. But you know, I I just
Speaker 2: want to see, like I want to see the face
Speaker 2: of a bigfoot, to be honest, I just that's part
Speaker 2: of it. And maybe I'll regret asking for that because
Speaker 2: you know, I've been camping in my car lately. That's
Speaker 2: I'm kind of gotten out of the whole tent thing
Speaker 2: and I've been camping in my car and one of
Speaker 2: my fears is waking up and seeing a face in
Speaker 2: the window. You know. But I do want to see
Speaker 2: a face, I really do. I just want to see
Speaker 2: a big foot face. I'm going to look at it.
Speaker 2: And I know people say don't look at it in
Speaker 2: the eyes, but I don't know. I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like I need that. I don't know that kind of
Speaker 2: will really solidify the whole thing for me if I
Speaker 2: if I actually see the face looking at me. So
Speaker 2: but I think you're right, Vick. I think that probably
Speaker 2: was so far that would be my confirmation sighting. Yes,
Speaker 2: the thing with the flowing hair, I don't Again, I
Speaker 2: don't know what that was. It was. That was crazy
Speaker 2: to see, too.
Speaker 1: Man. Crazy is a good way to sum it up.
Speaker 1: And you know it is, the more money you get,
Speaker 1: the more things you want. That's just human nature. I mean,
Speaker 1: that had to be the best way to describe that experience.
Speaker 1: Was incredible. That was an incredible experience you had. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering though, if you were below that raarroad bridge, but
Speaker 1: you could still see the creature running past on all
Speaker 1: fours over that four foot wall. If it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big foot, what do you think it could have been?
Speaker 2: Right, that's a that's a good question. You know, only
Speaker 2: what what is something that big and that's tall running? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was on all fours. It wasn't It wasn't a bipedal.
Speaker 2: It wasn't upright walking. It was like, you know, it
Speaker 2: was hunched over running. I guess it was pretty close
Speaker 2: to what I captured on the plow washer in terms
Speaker 2: of being running in all fours. I don't know what it
Speaker 2: could have been. You know, there's no there's no other
Speaker 2: animal that I can think of that's that large and
Speaker 2: with that kind of hair, the golden not to mention
Speaker 2: the color of the golden color, but just to the
Speaker 2: length of the hair on it like a main you know,
Speaker 2: it's like actual like main hair. Uh, it's just flowing
Speaker 2: in the wind. You know. It's like it's somebody who
Speaker 2: hasn't cut their hair in years. That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2: So what other animal around Washington State? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a fox, obviously it wasn't. You know, you
Speaker 2: can go through the whole lineup of animals around there,
Speaker 2: and I just can't you can't pinpoint it, especially like
Speaker 2: you said, the size of it. Yeah, it was the top,
Speaker 2: you know, the top of the head and back and
Speaker 2: shoulders of it was crushing the barrier four foot barrier
Speaker 2: four foot rail on the bridge up there, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm five foot five, five foot six, and the
Speaker 2: fact that I was able to see that that says
Speaker 2: a lot. So Yeah, And the funny thing is, I've
Speaker 2: been back up there with my mom since then, and
Speaker 2: we haven't seen or heard anything up there. I even
Speaker 2: put recorders out in that area and I've never gotten anything.
Speaker 2: In fact, she took a bad fall up there one
Speaker 2: time and I had to take her to the hospital.
Speaker 2: She was okay, But yeah, I don't know, I guess.
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing too, I haven't really I
Speaker 2: haven't been back to that spot in a while. And
Speaker 2: I haven't even been back to the first spot with
Speaker 2: where I saw that thing through, you know, between the trees,
Speaker 2: with my dog. I mean, I haven't even really been
Speaker 2: back up there in a while because I think there's
Speaker 2: been a lot more people up in that area, and
Speaker 2: I think it's been too crowded. I think there's been
Speaker 2: too many people going up there. And again, if if
Speaker 2: it's bigfoot up in that spot, I think they've probably
Speaker 2: moved out because of the you know, the population of
Speaker 2: people and how popular that lake is up there.
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still around. They
Speaker 1: just come out at night when most of the people
Speaker 1: are gone. And talking about that second sighting, you had
Speaker 1: something to not lose sight of as a fact that
Speaker 1: not only did you see it above that four foot wall,
Speaker 1: but you were below the bridge, so that makes it
Speaker 1: even bigger yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, man, for sure, it was definitely bigger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I don't even know if my dog would have
Speaker 2: you know, if that was my dog, I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I don't think of what I would have seen as
Speaker 2: much as I did of it. So you're right right,
Speaker 2: it probably probably could have been. It probably was a
Speaker 2: big foot, maybe a juvenile, that's my guess. It might
Speaker 2: have been a juvenile. And like I said, I heard
Speaker 2: possible whoop sounds before that happened, And I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was the river that I heard, but it
Speaker 2: sounded like whoops to me, like small whoops, So I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe there's something to it there, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that image of the thing running across the bridge is
Speaker 2: burned in my mind and I'll never forget it. It
Speaker 2: only happened for a couple of seconds, but I'll never
Speaker 2: forget that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you never will. And that siding right
Speaker 1: there is exactly why you're here in the show tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw a sasquatch. Whether you want to admit it
Speaker 1: or not acknowledge that fact or not, you saw a
Speaker 1: sas watch and like I said, that's why you're here tonight.
Speaker 1: So just wanted to make sure you're clear on that.
Speaker 1: And even if it was a giant dog up on
Speaker 1: that bridge, you're below the bridge, like we've already established,
Speaker 1: you definitely wouldn't have even seen a giant dog, a
Speaker 1: giant breed up on top of that bridge. If there
Speaker 1: was a four foot wall and you're below the bridge, yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have seen a giant breed. So that really
Speaker 1: narrows down the possibilities. But let's narrow it down even further.
Speaker 1: You said that you saw its head, shoulders, and upper
Speaker 1: back from behind it. How would you describe its shoulders though?
Speaker 1: Were they wied like a humans shoulder structure or were
Speaker 1: they narrow kind of like a canitz.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, it was like the top half
Speaker 2: of it, like the very top half of it, it
Speaker 2: really looked I didn't see any there weren't any points.
Speaker 2: It was more rounded. Everything was rounded on it. Like
Speaker 2: the top of the head. There was no pointed. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a pointed head. It was more like a rounded head,
Speaker 2: rounded shoulders and back. It was really rounded looking. But
Speaker 2: again the hair on it is what uh, the flowing
Speaker 2: hair like. There was definitely more hair up front, like
Speaker 2: like I said, almost like a maine I guess, than
Speaker 2: in the back part, although the butt part that was
Speaker 2: a little bit longer hair in a way. God, it
Speaker 2: was just really rounded looking. It was nothing pointed. It's
Speaker 2: just a lot of hair or fur, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was hair refer but it
Speaker 2: was just a lot of that. Like I said, the
Speaker 2: shape of it was really rounded. You can't really get
Speaker 2: any feature. I couldn't get any features on really distinct
Speaker 2: features of it. But like I said, you could see
Speaker 2: the top, like the very top of the head, the shoulder, back,
Speaker 2: it's just really rounded looking, just with a lot of
Speaker 2: hair and fur flowing behind it. But you know, the
Speaker 2: color of it, like the golden color of it is
Speaker 2: something that really stands out to me, Like you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't even know if it was really blonde
Speaker 2: and somehow I just saw more red or maybe it
Speaker 2: was a mixture of red and blonde to make this
Speaker 2: golden kind of color, but that really stood out to me. Well,
Speaker 2: like I said, man, it was so quick. It was
Speaker 2: like a couple of seconds. Like you can't really I
Speaker 2: can't get as much detail from it, but just the
Speaker 2: top parts, like just top parts of the head and shoulders,
Speaker 2: like it was just a real top part of it.
Speaker 2: All the distinct features were below. I guess the barrier there,
Speaker 2: I just saw a bunch of it was really more
Speaker 2: just a bunch of hair flowing, golden hair flowing. So
Speaker 2: but like I said, the size of it, like you're
Speaker 2: telling me the size of cresting the four foot wall
Speaker 2: was something so uh so yeah, I mean, if it
Speaker 2: was juvenile, maybe that maybe they're more rounded, I guess,
Speaker 2: not so much pointy. But it was such a it
Speaker 2: was like a couple of seconds. It was such a
Speaker 2: quick glimpse of this thing and like I said, they
Speaker 2: had the the sun is behind it. It was actually
Speaker 2: kind of illuminating it actually, Uh maybe that's why I
Speaker 2: helped give it it's more golden glow. But yeah, still
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it right now. It's still so weird.
Speaker 2: Uh you know what happens for a couple of seconds too.
Speaker 2: I wish it was longer and I was just filming.
Speaker 2: I had my camera in my hand, just didn't think
Speaker 2: of pointing it up there because I wasn't expecting. You
Speaker 2: don't expect that to happen when you look up my
Speaker 2: short sec didn't. I was just looking up to go, okay, Tom,
Speaker 2: go back up to the bridge. Then you see this
Speaker 2: thing running cross from where my parents were walking too.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, I mean that's the thing, like, when
Speaker 2: you get a couple of second glimpses of something like that,
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to get as much detail, to recount
Speaker 2: as much detail like that, because all I was thinking of,
Speaker 2: what's that hair? Was like why is the hair so
Speaker 2: long on this thing? Like what is that? Why does
Speaker 2: it look like? Why is the hair look like my
Speaker 2: dog's hair? In a way that really perplexed me most man,
Speaker 2: was the length of the hair, Like, what is that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I was expecting maybe like an elk or something, But
Speaker 2: they don't got long hair like that. So what in
Speaker 2: the wild out here in Washington has that? That was
Speaker 2: just I don't know. That was just so weird, weird to.
Speaker 1: Me, A sasquatch has that? To answer your question, for sure?
Speaker 2: For sure, that's right.
Speaker 1: And let's nail this down even further. How much further
Speaker 1: below the top lip of that wall on that bridge
Speaker 1: would you say your head was? And how far away
Speaker 1: from the wall were you was your head?
Speaker 2: Well? I was like really down. I mean just like
Speaker 2: when I'm up there or down below.
Speaker 1: When you're down below, how how many feet below the
Speaker 1: top of that wall would you say your head was
Speaker 1: when you saw it? And also how far away would
Speaker 1: you say your head was from that wall?
Speaker 2: Uh? Boy, that's pretty far up. I'm not the best
Speaker 2: with numbers. Maybe more than boy, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: fifteen feet down or fifteen twenty feet down. Maybe I
Speaker 2: had to look up. I'm not the best with numbers
Speaker 2: in distance, But like I was, I was not right
Speaker 2: below the bridge, I was kind of far away from
Speaker 2: it on the sandbar, looking up at it at an
Speaker 2: angle I actually like it was, you know, coming down
Speaker 2: the hill from the bridge down to the sandbar is
Speaker 2: kind of a little It was quick, but you know,
Speaker 2: it was a few feet down. Like I feel like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're right. I don't know if
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty feet is right, but that's what That's what
Speaker 2: it kind of feels like to me. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: probably more or less than that, but well, I mean
Speaker 2: I really have to look up at you know, I
Speaker 2: really had to look up, really look up at it
Speaker 2: at an angle from where I was. I wasn't like
Speaker 2: right below the bridge, I was. I mean, I was
Speaker 2: below the bridge, but you know, I was a little
Speaker 2: bit further way on the sandbar from it at an angle.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of tough to say. I can't say
Speaker 2: for sure how many feet down. I'm just guessing, and
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm only like five five five five six,
Speaker 2: but going down this bridge, like you kind of have
Speaker 2: to kind of trek down a little bit down this
Speaker 2: little path to get down to the sandbar. So again,
Speaker 2: I could be wrong about the numbers on this, but
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing. I probably should back there and actually
Speaker 2: try to measure that, but it's been so many years, man,
Speaker 2: I haven't been back there in years.
Speaker 1: Oh that's all right, that's no biggie there. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what though, Like they say, your first guess is
Speaker 1: normally the most accurate one. And if your head was
Speaker 1: close to being fifteen feet below the top edge of
Speaker 1: that wall and you could still see it even if
Speaker 1: you were a good distance away, your head is still
Speaker 1: fifteen feet below the top of the wall, and if
Speaker 1: you could still see it running by, that had to
Speaker 1: make it probably pretty close to six feet Although how
Speaker 1: close did it seem like it was to the wall
Speaker 1: when you saw it?
Speaker 2: Pretty close? I mean I think it was. Well, maybe
Speaker 2: because of the angle I was at, it kind of
Speaker 2: messed with my perception perspective. I think it was pretty
Speaker 2: close to the wall, but maybe the size of it
Speaker 2: kind of messes with that, you know. Maybe it was
Speaker 2: more closer in the middle between you know, like in
Speaker 2: the middle of the trackway there, of the of the
Speaker 2: of the of the bridge railroad bridge. But I think
Speaker 2: it was pretty close to that. I Well, again, maybe
Speaker 2: it was the size of it that made me think
Speaker 2: of that, you know, because maybe it was actually wider,
Speaker 2: you know, so maybe that's why it kind of seemed
Speaker 2: like it was closer to the wall edge, but maybe
Speaker 2: it was wide. You know, I couldn't tell how wide
Speaker 2: it was. So maybe it was actually a lot larger
Speaker 2: than I thought it was. And so maybe that's why,
Speaker 2: maybe that's what appeared more closer to the you know,
Speaker 2: to the barrier. But he said, yeah, for it to
Speaker 2: crest the barrier, it's crazy. Probably was six feet, you know,
Speaker 2: and if it was on all well, it wasn't all
Speaker 2: for us. I'm just saying, if it's wen on all
Speaker 2: fours and it's at six feet, I can't imagine what
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, if it's bipedle exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's close to six feet tall on all
Speaker 1: four is that you're talking about it? Ten eleven, twelve
Speaker 1: foot or so? Yeah, that was a big one, I'd say.
Speaker 1: But as it was running by, I know it was
Speaker 1: a railroad bridge, but could you hear its feet impacting
Speaker 1: the bridge?
Speaker 2: No? No, And I actually think the water, the running water,
Speaker 2: it kind of helped that because well and also I
Speaker 2: don't know if the concrete, like the concrete part of
Speaker 2: the bridge kind of I don't know. I I've never
Speaker 2: I never really paid attention to like if your footsteps,
Speaker 2: you know, will make sounds up there, like you know,
Speaker 2: how how loud you know footsteps will be on that bridge.
Speaker 2: But I think the water was kind of masking any
Speaker 2: kind of sound because it was pretty The water itself
Speaker 2: is pretty loud, you know, That's what That's all I
Speaker 2: was hearing. So I think the water might have been
Speaker 2: masking any kind of sound that it was making as
Speaker 2: it was running by, because it was so like, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't think anything. I didn't hear it or anything
Speaker 2: like that. I just happened to glance up and look
Speaker 2: at the bridge and see the same running by, So
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't hear any any any sound,
Speaker 2: like any footsteps or anything like that as was running.
Speaker 2: It was totally silent. And again I'm probably I think
Speaker 2: I I think the reason is because of the water,
Speaker 2: the rushing water through there, because you know, it was
Speaker 2: pretty loud. The water is pretty loud for there, So
Speaker 2: maybe that's that's another reason why he was able to
Speaker 2: do that, because you know, the water was masking that
Speaker 2: it sound. And and also I've heard that you know,
Speaker 2: a big foot are actually also silent too. Sometimes when
Speaker 2: you know you don't even hear them come up to
Speaker 2: you or anything like that, so different factors could have
Speaker 2: been involved there. But no, I didn't hear it at all.
Speaker 2: I just happened to glance up and look and happen
Speaker 2: to catch this thing running across the bridge for a
Speaker 2: couple of seconds. So it seemed like all of the
Speaker 2: right elements were you know what I mean, Like everything
Speaker 2: was all in place for it to sneak by, so
Speaker 2: to speak. You know, it's opportunity, and it did it.
Speaker 2: You know, it took its chance.
Speaker 1: Oh of course it did. Yeah, these guys are masterful
Speaker 1: at taking advantage of everything in the environment around them,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't come as a surprise at all. I'm wondering, though,
Speaker 1: not knowing how long that bridge was or how fast
Speaker 1: the subject was running, I would just say that the
Speaker 1: sasquatch was running. Did you ever have yourge to try
Speaker 1: to put yourself in a position where you could have
Speaker 1: seen the subject more clearly? Or was it running so
Speaker 1: fast or was the bridge so short that doing that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been possible.
Speaker 2: Well, the angle that was that was it was impossible
Speaker 2: for me to run right back up to the bridge,
Speaker 2: like run back up this little trail up onto the bridge.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of an incline to get back
Speaker 2: up there and down because it happened so quickly, like
Speaker 2: a couple of seconds, and I wouldn't have been able
Speaker 2: to I wouldn't have been able to get up there
Speaker 2: quick enough to see it. And like I said, I
Speaker 2: tried to get a beat on it, Like I ran
Speaker 2: down that trail to catch a beat on it. It
Speaker 2: was long gone. No I I there was. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was any I'm trying to remember. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any way. I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 2: see it any better for my position down there, because
Speaker 2: that concrete bridge kind of took up the whole line
Speaker 2: of sight, so to speak. And like I said, I mean,
Speaker 2: I happened to just be looking in one spot on
Speaker 2: that bridge and happen to see it. So I just
Speaker 2: kind of get I guess I wasn't in the right
Speaker 2: line of sight to get a better look at it.
Speaker 2: I wish I was, but I just wasn't in the
Speaker 2: right spot, I guess, you know, to see its face
Speaker 2: or to see the front of it or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Just the top half of it, very tip top half
Speaker 2: of it. It was so quick, man, that thing was
Speaker 2: so quick, just just to see it for a couple
Speaker 2: of seconds, like the like blind seconds. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: so fast. It took its chance, man, like you knew
Speaker 2: when to take its chance. And I actually think I think,
Speaker 2: I think maybe when I saw my dog, I think
Speaker 2: I also might have spooped it out of fighting because
Speaker 2: I hear you know, I don't think bigfoot like dogs,
Speaker 2: so maybe that kind of freaked them out, along with
Speaker 2: my parents walking up to it.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I think it's more of a function
Speaker 1: of them realizing that if you have a knid with you,
Speaker 1: the dogs are much more likely to detect them than
Speaker 1: what a person is. So I think that that's kind
Speaker 1: of what puts them off right there, more so than
Speaker 1: anything else. But I could be wrong. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't think for these guys. But what I do know
Speaker 1: is I think you should be commended for the job
Speaker 1: you did. You didn't have much time to collect as
Speaker 1: many details as you could, but you still did that.
Speaker 1: You noticed all sorts of things that a lot of
Speaker 1: people would have missed. So, like I said, you should
Speaker 1: be commended for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Well, I mean, you know, like I said, like,
Speaker 2: when you see a striking image like that, it's kind
Speaker 2: of burned in your mind. But you know, you kind
Speaker 2: of hate it that it don't happen for a couple
Speaker 2: of seconds. You wish you got a longer look at it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 2: to share it. You know, I'm kind of again the
Speaker 2: fact that, well, I know you, I know you tell
Speaker 2: me it's a big foot, but the fact that I
Speaker 2: can't confirm it myself that it's a big foot. It's
Speaker 2: kind of tough to tell people about it because, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell them, like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a bigfoot or not. But I saw something. I saw
Speaker 2: something I can't explain it, and something I've never seen
Speaker 2: before out here, and I've been you know, I've been
Speaker 2: researching out in these woods for so many years, and
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that before. So it's something that,
Speaker 2: you know, something to share and something to tell other people,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy to do it, happy to get it
Speaker 2: out there. And I'm hoping I can go back to
Speaker 2: up this trail sometime soon, just to just check out
Speaker 2: the area and see if the bridges see what the
Speaker 2: bridge looks like maybe I can get better measurements of
Speaker 2: the bridge. You know, maybe I can go back to
Speaker 2: the where I was standing, or pretty close to where
Speaker 2: I was standing, and you know, maybe take a picture,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe get better measurements.
Speaker 1: I hope you can do that sometime. That'd be great
Speaker 1: if you could. And understand, Tristan, I don't ask eyewitnesses
Speaker 1: to tell me what it was that they saw. I
Speaker 1: just want them to tell me what happened when they
Speaker 1: had their experiences. Just put the facts out there. What
Speaker 1: did you see, what did you hear, What did you smell?
Speaker 1: What did you experience? And let that evidence speak for itself.
Speaker 1: And that's what you've done. And guess what you saw
Speaker 1: a sasquatch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, And speaking of smell, we
Speaker 2: didn't smell anything. I didn't smell. I don't recall smelling
Speaker 2: anything even when when even when we when we went
Speaker 2: back up to when I went back up to the bridge,
Speaker 2: and when my parents came back, I don't recall ever
Speaker 2: smelling anything odd. So not to say that Bigfoot always
Speaker 2: has a bad odor, but that's I'm glad you brought
Speaker 2: that up to smell, because I don't recall any kind
Speaker 2: of smell, so I thought that was an interesting thing too.
Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the things about sasquatch. Some people
Speaker 1: are almost right up on them and they don't smell anything.
Speaker 1: Other people are a distance away and they smell that
Speaker 1: horrible stink. I think they have what are called apocrine
Speaker 1: glands underneath their arm pits, the same way gorillas do.
Speaker 1: That they can turn on and turn off to emit
Speaker 1: that odor. But I could be wrong about that. It's
Speaker 1: just so hard to know it really is. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, Tristan. We are out of time, so
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna call it. But before I do,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the vocalizations that you recorded. Is there any
Speaker 1: way that the listeners can check those out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a I don't have a website
Speaker 2: for with them or anything like that, but I've I've
Speaker 2: been included in some documentaries. I'll I'll just say one
Speaker 2: documentary that they're included in called Search for Save Bumping Lake.
Speaker 2: They can look that up and they have a clip
Speaker 2: of my audio on there, so that's where people can
Speaker 2: go listen to it. But yeah, it's out there, there's
Speaker 2: clips of it out there. If they want to listen
Speaker 2: to it, and I just want to tell people that
Speaker 2: that really happened. Those vocals really happened, and you know,
Speaker 2: thirty minutes NonStop. You know, again, if somebody was hoaxing me,
Speaker 2: they did a really good job. Because I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's up at two in the morning. Somehow call blasting
Speaker 2: those kinds of sounds for thirty minutes with that kind
Speaker 2: of lung capacity. And not to mention the multiple individuals
Speaker 2: that you can hear in the audio, the female possible
Speaker 2: kid vocals that you hear crazy stuff, crazy stuf.
Speaker 1: Of what I'll do is I'm going to get with
Speaker 1: you after we wrap here, and if you can send
Speaker 1: me a link or we can check out those audio recordings,
Speaker 1: then I'll just post that link in the description for
Speaker 1: tonight's show. That'll make it really easy.
Speaker 2: Sounds good. That sounds good?
Speaker 1: All right? Great, Well, like I told you before, we
Speaker 1: did this. Thanks so much for your time. I really
Speaker 1: do appreciate it, appreciate you coming on to tell us
Speaker 1: about those experiences as well. And in the future, if
Speaker 1: I can never help you out, please let me know.
Speaker 2: Well. I really appreciate it, Vick, and thank you for
Speaker 2: contacting me, and I'm sorry I kind of jumped around.
Speaker 2: I jumped around a little bit, but I was just
Speaker 2: trying to remember all these things that you know, that
Speaker 2: I've experienced and collected, So I was just trying to
Speaker 2: get those in as much as I could. But I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it, and it was great to talk to
Speaker 2: you and hope to speak to you again.
Speaker 1: Well it's been great talking with you, so having said that,
Speaker 1: thanks again so much, and have a great night. That's
Speaker 1: it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff.
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