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<v Speaker 1>I witnessed dot com Forward Slash podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Tristan Yelton. I'm forty two years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I am from Washington State and I've lived here all

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<v Speaker 2>my life and growing up, I've always been interested in dinosaur's, bigfoot, lockedness, monster, Godzilla,

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<v Speaker 2>alien and predator. You know a lot of the monster

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<v Speaker 2>stuff growing up, and like I said, Bigfoot was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that. And I used to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>library and check out a bunch of Bigfoot books and

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<v Speaker 2>watch a bunch of Bigfoot documentary shows on TV, like

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<v Speaker 2>In Search of Bigfoot with Robert W. Morgan and Mysterious

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<v Speaker 2>Monsters with Peter Graves. Those were big influences on me

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of my fascination with Bigfoot. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, I wasn't really interested in looking for Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought there was enough people out there looking

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<v Speaker 2>for it. But that all changed for me in February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen when my father was taking out the trash

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<v Speaker 2>one morning before going to work and there's a forested

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<v Speaker 2>hill above our house over here. It's owned by Global

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell now, but he used to be owned by Warehouser.

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<v Speaker 2>And as he was taking the trash out one morning,

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<v Speaker 2>he heard two whoops, two distinctive whoops on coming from

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<v Speaker 2>this hill up here, on two opposite sides of the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>like one whoop will go you know, you'll go whoop,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the other there'll be another whoop that would

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<v Speaker 2>answer it. And he my dad made it meant to

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<v Speaker 2>note of that, and he thought it was really weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he went on to work. He was going

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<v Speaker 2>down the road here to work, and he told me

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a herd of elk in the road

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all looking up on the hill where those

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<v Speaker 2>whoops are coming from. And he actually had that. He

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<v Speaker 2>said that he had to swerve around the herd of

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<v Speaker 2>elk like they're like they're all on the road, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had to swerve around them to get the

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<v Speaker 2>work that morning. And for whatever reason though, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell my mother and I about the whoops until we

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<v Speaker 2>were watching a bigfoot show I think like a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks later. I won't say the name of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were watching a Bigfoot show, and he happened

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<v Speaker 2>to mention he heard those whoops on the hill or

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<v Speaker 2>my mother and I going, what you know, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell us that before, So I guess watching the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>show ignited reignited that memory for him. And so as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we could, my mother and I went up

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<v Speaker 2>on the hill. She actually she was watching some Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>videos about gifting, and she actually bought a jar of

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<v Speaker 2>peanut butter from the store along with some Peter butter crackers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know in those little plastic things. And we went

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<v Speaker 2>up on this hill, went up on the hill across

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<v Speaker 2>our house over here, and then we went up on

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<v Speaker 2>this trail and there was this there was a little

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<v Speaker 2>creek area up there that we went up to, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a there was an old logging road that

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<v Speaker 2>went through this creek, and we thought if this was

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<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch and maybe they were following this creek and

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<v Speaker 2>going through this logging this old logging road up theres

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<v Speaker 2>So we put the peanut butter jar and the peanut

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<v Speaker 2>butter crackers on this It was on a log right

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<v Speaker 2>next to the creek up there. And then there was

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<v Speaker 2>a stump up there and I had an old audio

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<v Speaker 2>recorder went without a USB connector, and so to get

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<v Speaker 2>the sounds off of it, I would have to connect

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<v Speaker 2>it to another audio recorder that had USB capabilities. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was a pretty old audio recorder. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>old Sony audio recorder. But anyway, I strapped that to

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<v Speaker 2>a stump with the bungee cord and we left those overnight,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when it came back the next morning, we

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<v Speaker 2>went back up there the next morning. The peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>jar was open, the lid was on, the lid was

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, and inside the peanut butter jar were

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like possible finger holes that dug deep down

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<v Speaker 2>inside the peanut butter jar, and mostly the peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>was scooped out of it. It looked like and there

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<v Speaker 2>was actually we think our dermer Bridge's fingerprints on the

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<v Speaker 2>endside of the of the jar. And the peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>crackers were all opened, neatly opened. They weren't ripped open

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe like a bear would do it, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were neatly opened, and they were all gone. And my

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<v Speaker 2>audio recorder was still on the stump, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>no teeth or scratch marks on it, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think anything messed with it. Well, surprisingly, I went home

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<v Speaker 2>and I listened to that audio recorder and about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour after my mother and I left the night before,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was getting dark by then, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it was still getting dark at around six seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>back then, So an hour after we left, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>on the recorder you hear a weird humming sound, like

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<v Speaker 2>a weird feedback kind of a sound, which I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard before. And then you can what I think you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear is a woodnock and a whoop in the

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<v Speaker 2>background right after it. And then about a few seconds later,

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<v Speaker 2>you hear this thing. I don't know if it's one

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<v Speaker 2>or two individuals, but you hear the food being messed with,

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<v Speaker 2>like eating and messed with. I think that's when you

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<v Speaker 2>hear the peanut butter jar being opened, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is is getting into the food. And then

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<v Speaker 2>right after it's doing that, you hear it all. It

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly stops, and then you hear it go oo, like

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<v Speaker 2>a real deep, a real deep growl. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>think happens is I think it sees my audio recorder

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<v Speaker 2>because I had a little golden light. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>probably saw that and then all of a sudden, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>this thing is, it comes over to the art recorder

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<v Speaker 2>and it's she starts fumbling with it and growling at

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<v Speaker 2>it as it's fumbling with it while making this humming

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<v Speaker 2>sound at the same time with its growling, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it just does that for a few seconds and then

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<v Speaker 2>everything stops and then that's pretty much it of the recording.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, again that shocked me because there was

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<v Speaker 2>no teeth marks, there's no scratch marks on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the recorder at all. It didn't like to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look like it was touched at all. It was

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, it was still strapped at the stump

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<v Speaker 2>with a bungee cord. So that really shocked me to

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have to listen to that with the

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<v Speaker 2>headphones like for the first time, you know, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was really shocking to hear that on the audio. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was my even though I can't say that I

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<v Speaker 2>was I don't know if that was a bigfoot or

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<v Speaker 2>not that did that because I didn't see it, But

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<v Speaker 2>that was the catalyst for me getting into big foot research.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, like I said, this happened in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been researching ever since, so it's it's been

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<v Speaker 2>about ten years now, and so yeah, that that was

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<v Speaker 2>just my my start into bigfoot research. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>went back up on the hill up here and we tried,

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<v Speaker 2>we tried putting out more food and more audio recorders,

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<v Speaker 2>but we weren't getting anything. So I think whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>thing was did not like what we what we put on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on its route, so to speak. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it liked you know that we put equipment up there

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<v Speaker 2>and electronic equipment. I don't think it. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that it was you know, it was caught, so

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<v Speaker 2>to speak, so I think that might have changed the route.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally think that if it's a Sasquatch, it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably falling the creek around that ridge up there, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a creek that flows down that whole freaking

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<v Speaker 2>hill up there, So I think it was following that

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<v Speaker 2>down the creek. So it was weird because we kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>We even put a game case I'm up there, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can't even capture anything. So we kind of abandoned

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<v Speaker 2>that spot. Because soon afterward they there was some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of contractor from California came in and bought that part

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<v Speaker 2>of land up there, and there they logged down a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of trees and everything, so it was right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's kind of growing back, but the whole

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<v Speaker 2>forest up there was kind of bowdoles down, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think if it was a Sasquatch that they totally moved

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<v Speaker 2>out from that area. So my mother and I were

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<v Speaker 2>checking the BFRL website for different spots around Washington State

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<v Speaker 2>that have had sightings and reports, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>spots is a lake near us. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I should say the name of the lake, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty popular lake. It's about fifteen minutes away from

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<v Speaker 2>where I live. But it's had a few sightings up there,

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<v Speaker 2>especially one I'll just say that where a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>hikers saw one drinking from a stream and they described

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<v Speaker 2>it having legs like a Clyde Stale. If anybody knows

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about, they'll they'll probably know which wake

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. But there's but there's been siding reports

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<v Speaker 2>up in there, and in fact, uh there's a reservoir.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a a watershed and a reservoir up there where

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<v Speaker 2>they actually take you on these buses so you can

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<v Speaker 2>take these little tours, and on the tours they'll even

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that there's been historic bigfoot reports up there, So

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was pretty interesting. And I've also, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I've believe I've found some possible juvenile footprints up

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<v Speaker 2>at this slave before, even in the snow. There's we

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<v Speaker 2>found uh, possible trackways in the snow up there before.

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<v Speaker 2>So next to this lake, there's a there's a trail

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of goes up this hill, this little small

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<v Speaker 2>mountain that's actually next to a smaller lake. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had a friend that used to live near this hill,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said he used to hear some weird sounds

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<v Speaker 2>at night, including owls and some other weird vocalizations. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went up there with my Golden retriever about a

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<v Speaker 2>few months later after this event up on my near

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<v Speaker 2>my house happened. It was still it was in the

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<v Speaker 2>spring of twenty fifteen. I took my Golden retrievering up

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<v Speaker 2>there up there with me, and it was in the

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<v Speaker 2>late afternoon and I was going up this trail up

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<v Speaker 2>on the hill, and one thing I want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>is there was a there was an arch, like a

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<v Speaker 2>limb arch going over the trail This was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first things I saw. But I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big guy into stick structures because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I think stick structures could be made by many

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<v Speaker 2>different things, like even naturally. But this thing kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stood out to me because it was an art that

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<v Speaker 2>went over the whole trail basically, and it was tinned

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<v Speaker 2>down on the other side of the trail with another stick,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was really weird. I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>looked natural, and if a person did it, why would

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<v Speaker 2>a person do it unless they were really bored. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was really weird for me to see. That was

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<v Speaker 2>like the first thing I saw when I went up

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<v Speaker 2>this trail, And so I kept walking on this trail

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually the trail splits, it goes down another pathway

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<v Speaker 2>and goes up, and I happened to look to the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the trail and the gravel and where it

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<v Speaker 2>was going up, and I thought it saw a possible

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<v Speaker 2>footprint going coming down this hill, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite direction. But it was it looked like the shape

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<v Speaker 2>of a footprint in the gravel. You can see the toes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looked pretty flat to me, So I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting. So I decided to take my dog up

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<v Speaker 2>up on this ridge we started here, I heard some

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<v Speaker 2>movement up on this ridge, like something walking, something heavy walking,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dog actually froze and was looking in that

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<v Speaker 2>same direction. And the most interesting part of that, part

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<v Speaker 2>dog was a Golden Retriever and he would chase after everything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like deer elk. I mean, he would he

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<v Speaker 2>would go after everything that he sees, and this whatever

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was, he had no he didn't want any

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<v Speaker 2>part of it. He actually laid down behind me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's never done that before, so that was really weird

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<v Speaker 2>behavior for him. So I looked up on this on

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<v Speaker 2>this ridge and there was like a there was a

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<v Speaker 2>row of trees on this ridge, and there was this big, tall,

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<v Speaker 2>dark thing. I can't couldn't get any detail because it

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<v Speaker 2>was the trees are pretty close together to each other,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could see this dark thing moving in between

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was trying to I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to get a better look at me and

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<v Speaker 2>my dog. To be honest, that's what it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>to me. It was like it was kind of slowly

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<v Speaker 2>It was trying to be silent and quiet. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear it because you can hear branches breaking, and

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded heavy to me. When it was walking. You

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<v Speaker 2>can actually hear like kind of thumps.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just moving between these trees and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, you just hear it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just I just froze, uh with my dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just stood there. I was hoping if it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big foot there, it would actually really show itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't. It just I think it I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was I don't know. I think it was confused

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<v Speaker 2>of what it should do, because at one point it

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<v Speaker 2>actually stopped and I was waiting for it to show itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't. It just stood there and uh, in

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<v Speaker 2>between the trees. And then all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. You hear walking back into the woods, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear these stumps as it was walking back

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods, like further back in the woods, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think it. I think it got tired of looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me and my dog. I guess, but again, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was a big foot. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if it was a person. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear the heavy footsteps on it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>looked tall and dark to me, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>finding that footprint in the gravel and my dog's behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>my dog laying down behind me was the weirdest thing

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<v Speaker 2>about that hole, because, like I said, he would chase

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<v Speaker 2>after anything, any kind of animal, so he knew that

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<v Speaker 2>there was something odd in front of us. And so

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<v Speaker 2>after that event happened, and we went back down the

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<v Speaker 2>hill and it was getting kind of it was getting

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<v Speaker 2>late in the afternoon, was actually kind of getting dar

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<v Speaker 2>it was getting late in the afternoon. We ran into

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<v Speaker 2>a hiker that was coming up with this German shepherd

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<v Speaker 2>and I ran into him and I said, dude, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something on this there's something up the hill up here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's big. I don't know what it is. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's a bear. I have no idea, but

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<v Speaker 2>please be careful. And then surprisingly he goes, he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>had he goes, I have a neighbor that told me

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<v Speaker 2>that he saw a big foot running through my yard

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks prior, a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't he wasn't surprised of me telling him this. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, he didn't seem shocked at all. And

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<v Speaker 2>and this neighborhood has actually been talked about on other

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts before, like other people have had sightings around this

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood before, and like I said, they're just BFO BFR

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<v Speaker 2>reports from this area over the years, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that that might

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<v Speaker 2>have been a possible sasquatch, But I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>that was. That's just one of the strangest things that's

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<v Speaker 2>ever happened to me. And I was pretty shook up

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<v Speaker 2>by it too, because you know that that was I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a big foot, that was basically my

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<v Speaker 2>first real bigfoot experience, and it kind of even though

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see it like a class A sighting, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of still shook you to the core. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty crazy, especially with my dog's behavior. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get over that the fact that he laid down

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<v Speaker 2>me hint me like that. That was just really odd.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my first if you want to call

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<v Speaker 2>it encounter, again, I can't say it's bigfoot, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>something unexplainable. But again I I, I guess I'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it an encounter of something that's unexplainable. And and to

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<v Speaker 2>go into my next encounter, which is even more perplexing

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<v Speaker 2>to me, a couple of years later, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years later, my parents and I and my golden retriever

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<v Speaker 2>went up to this went up to another trail that's

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<v Speaker 2>two hours two hours away from where. It's two hours

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<v Speaker 2>into the forest and mountains from where I had that

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<v Speaker 2>first hill experience with the thing with the peanut butter jar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's up in that area, but way two hours away

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<v Speaker 2>from it, and it's in a pretty remote area, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's two hours away from me. And one afternoon we

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<v Speaker 2>drove up there to this trail head and there was

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<v Speaker 2>no other cars there. It's just our car, our car.

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<v Speaker 2>But again you have to drive really far back in

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<v Speaker 2>there and lots lots of woods, lots of mountains, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty remote. And we drove up there one more

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<v Speaker 2>one afternoon. It was in the for known basically, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were and I've never been here before. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been there before. This trail. I don't know if my

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<v Speaker 2>parents did. I can't remember if they'd been up there before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've never been up there. Anyway, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>nature trail. And we were walking on this nature trail

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<v Speaker 2>up there with my dog and there's a part there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's a concrete bridge up there, an old railroad,

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<v Speaker 2>concrete bridge with four foot rails on five foot five

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<v Speaker 2>five foot six, so it's like I think there were

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<v Speaker 2>like four foot rails, concrete rails, and this bridge went

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<v Speaker 2>over this small stream and river. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a loud little stream, and I guess you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of call it a river because it's kind of pretty loud.

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<v Speaker 2>The water is pretty loud. But anyway, down below this bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there was a sandbar down there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to see those footprints down there, because it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a nice little sandbar that could you know,

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<v Speaker 2>preserved some prints if they were down there. So I

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<v Speaker 2>asked my parents if it feels okay with them, if

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<v Speaker 2>they kept walking with my dog up the trail past

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge, you know, and I went down and if

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<v Speaker 2>I can go down below and look at the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>look for footprints. And they said, sure, go ahead. So

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<v Speaker 2>there was a little trail that went down to the sandbar,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went down there and my parents kept walking

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<v Speaker 2>and I was looking around the sandbar, and unfortunately I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see any footprints of anything. Actually, I happened to

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<v Speaker 2>look back up on the to the bridge, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have no reason. I don't know why I did this, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what made me want to look back up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did. I looked back up to the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>and with the sun shining behind it, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of illuminated up there. But all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this. H I saw the top half of

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<v Speaker 2>this animal, like the top, like the head and back

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<v Speaker 2>and shoulders of this animal, Christy, this four foot concrete

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<v Speaker 2>barrier or rail on the bridge, and it had long

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<v Speaker 2>and the craziest part about it because I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was my golden retriever. It had golden blonde flowing fur

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<v Speaker 2>or hair coming off of it. Like it was long,

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<v Speaker 2>longer than any kind of animal that I'm aware of

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<v Speaker 2>that's in the wild. Like it wasn't an elk, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a cougar, deer or a bear. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of hair length, this thing like it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a shaggy dog. Basically, it was like a flowing

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<v Speaker 2>the hair was flowing. It was like long flowing hair

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<v Speaker 2>on it, you know, And like I said, it was golden,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was At first. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was like I was wearing, is my golden retriever coming back?

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<v Speaker 2>But actually the size of it was it looked even

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than my own dog. So but I just I

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<v Speaker 2>can just remember the flowing hair on this thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>as it ran by, it actually came from the direction

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<v Speaker 2>that my parents walked up to. It was coming back

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<v Speaker 2>in the opposite direction from where they walked up to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I personally think that whatever this animal was was

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<v Speaker 2>spooked by my parents and my dog coming towards it,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. You know, it was probably up there

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<v Speaker 2>hiding or something and was waiting for you know, me,

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<v Speaker 2>even me to go down to the you know, down

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<v Speaker 2>below of the bridge. It was waiting for an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, to sneak by, And so I just

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<v Speaker 2>happened to catch a few second glimpse of this thing

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<v Speaker 2>with long flowing golden hair, and like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was my golden retriever and I I ran,

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<v Speaker 2>I ran right back up the right, right right back

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<v Speaker 2>up to the bridge, and I tried to follow the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was long gone. So I went back to

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge and I waited for my parents to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>and they came back with my dog, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>my dog. My dog's name was Puppy. And I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>Puppy to get get away from you at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, no, he's with us the whole time. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that thing was. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any other animal in the state

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<v Speaker 2>with that kind of long hair. And unless somebody lost

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<v Speaker 2>a dog up there, a big dog, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, there was nobody else up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's pretty crazy, like that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I've ever gone to that spot and then that occurs. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and one other thing I want to mention when I

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<v Speaker 2>was up there before I went down below the bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people experience this too, But when you're near water,

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<v Speaker 2>water can sometimes make some weird you know, like even

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<v Speaker 2>voice sounds Like I think when the water hits the rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes some weird sounds it makes. It makes you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're hearing voices or something. But I personally think

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I heard some possible little whoops like coming

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<v Speaker 2>from the forest ahead of us, But I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was maybe the river, the water making that sound. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I heard a possible a couple of whoops

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<v Speaker 2>coming from that forest ahead of us. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think too much of it until now looking back on it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know if that I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that went with the thing that I saw. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that was actually whoops I heard or

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<v Speaker 2>or what. But I always will remember that too. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that those two for me, in terms of visual encounters,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the most significant encounters that I've I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you could say that I've had. And a possible Bigfoot.

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00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.839
<v Speaker 2>I can't explain this thing with the flowing long hair

418
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I've I know a few people who have seen blonde,

419
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>blondish haired bigfoot. And but in terms of the length

420
00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.559
<v Speaker 2>of the hair, I mean, this thing had to be

421
00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>four four inches there more like in terms of hairlin

422
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:08.039
<v Speaker 2>it was really shaggy, you know, I guess the closest

423
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 2>thing is to my go to rechiever. That's the only

424
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>thing I could think of. But it definitely wasn't a

425
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>gold to retriever. But the hair color and that kind

426
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>of hair that I had was pretty close, I guess,

427
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 2>but I'll never forget that. That that second one, that

428
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 2>second encounter for me is like, you know, I wish

429
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I had a camera. I would I had a camera

430
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>looking at looking for footprints, but when when I saw

431
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 2>that thing run across the breavee man, I it was

432
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>so quick, it happened in like a few seconds. I

433
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't even think of pointing my camera up there in

434
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>on my phone to catch a picture of it. But

435
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.319
<v Speaker 2>I wish I did. I wish I was filming that

436
00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>because that was that was really crazy to see. You know,

437
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you would expect like a gear or an elg to

438
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>run by, but you don't expect an animal with that

439
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of hair, that kind of length of hair, and

440
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.519
<v Speaker 2>that kind of color of hair to run by. So

441
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>in terms of visual encounters, yeah, those who were the

442
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>most significant for me. Over the years, I've been camping

443
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.599
<v Speaker 2>all over Washington State, including a place called Bumping Lake,

444
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>which I know I've told another podcast and I've captured

445
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I think some possible chatter and vocalizations at different campsite

446
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>at primitive campsites out there. And the most significant event

447
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that happened to me was in July July eighteenth, twenty twenty,

448
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>when my mother and I were camping in a primitive

449
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>camp up there called California Camp. And it was just

450
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>my mother and I up in this camp and at

451
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the morning, we were sleeping in our tents.

452
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>In our tent, we slept in one tent two o'clock

453
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:56.559
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, this really loud will pal. It sounds

454
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty close to the Snowhomish recordings from the seventies. That's

455
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I heard it. It woke me up

456
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>out of sleep. But as soon as I heard it,

457
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I knew what it was like, I had a feeling.

458
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I knew what it was. It was. It was a really,

459
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>really loud whoopal, kind of similar to the snow Almost recordings.

460
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And then after that thing shines off you hear on

461
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the recording, you hear, well, this was a lot of

462
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>thing I've ever heard in person. It was like being

463
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>at a concert. It was so loud, but you hear

464
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>like these possible female and possible children vocals falling in it,

465
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.319
<v Speaker 2>following in it like the male vocal would chime off

466
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>first and then like the female, possible female and kid vocals.

467
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>It was like an opera. It was like a chorus.

468
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I call it the chorus audio. Well, these things they

469
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>are extremely loud. This went on for thirty minutes and NonStop,

470
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and like I said, it was it was like being

471
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>at a concert. There was a lot of thing I've

472
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>ever heard ever, and unfortunately my mother didn't have the

473
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>best hearing and in fact, you can hear it in

474
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the odd in the full recording. I was I was

475
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 2>really frustrated that she couldn't hear this because she wanted

476
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>me to wake her up if I heard anything, and

477
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I woke her up and I was asking her, could

478
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>you hear this? Can you hear this? And she said no,

479
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't. But it was the loudest thing I've ever heard.

480
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>It was. I mean, I can't imagine anybody hoaxing me

481
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>with those kind of sounds. I've never heard anything like

482
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 2>that in my life. I've never heard any recordings like that.

483
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So if somebody was call blasting these sounds or hoaxing

484
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>me in some way, they did a really good job,

485
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>because you would have to have a heck of a

486
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>pair of lungs to do with these things were doing,

487
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and to do this for thirty minutes NonStop was insane

488
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to hear. And you know, I was scared in those moments,

489
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, really I just wanted to listen.

490
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I just sat there and listened and h well, I

491
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>tried to I tried to listen. I was still kind

492
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>of talking to my mom, like trying to get her

493
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>to listen to these sounds, which she couldn't, so that

494
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>was frustrating me. But I was too scared to get

495
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>on my tent. I didn't want to go look to

496
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 2>see what these what was making these sounds, And in fact,

497
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 2>where these sounds were coming from was in another what

498
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I believe was another primitive camp spot behind on the

499
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 2>other side of the road from our campsite. I think

500
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 2>they're coming from a swamp area. There's like a swamp

501
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:43.359
<v Speaker 2>metal area in this other primitive camp spot that was

502
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 2>behind us, and I personally think some if not all,

503
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>of those were coming from that spot, and those were

504
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty close to the lake itself too, So maybe there

505
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 2>was one at the lake and then maybe the other

506
00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 2>ones were at the swamp. I'm not totally sure, but

507
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>but the acoustics of this area was insane. It was

508
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>just because you have this mountain range, you have the lake,

509
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>and then you have the mountain range on two different sides,

510
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 2>so like the amount of sound it was just incredible.

511
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>It was I don't know, like I said, you wrapped it.

512
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 2>You would have to have the biggest pair of lungs

513
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>ever to do what these things are doing. And for

514
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes, NonStop, it's just like NonStop, no rest basically.

515
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So for me, that was like the biggest moment for

516
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>me in terms of bigfoot research. And unfortunately, there's been

517
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>some wildfires in this in that area. In fact, about

518
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 2>a year after this occurred, there was a wildfire that

519
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of devastated the area, and just about a the

520
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>past couple of weeks there's been another fire that's gone

521
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>through that area. So if there's bigfoot around, I think

522
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>it might have scared them off or moved them around,

523
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't ever since that event, I didn't get

524
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>much activity in those in in that camp spot and

525
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>in those surrounding spots, So I think wildfires have a

526
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>major impact on on the Sasquatch up. That's what I

527
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>was hearing. And like I said, uh, and before July

528
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, I was capturing some chatter and in weird

529
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>vocalizations and other camp spots around there. I think they

530
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>were observing. I think they're observing people at the campfire.

531
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I was putting up bott recorders. Like there's

532
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 2>a one of the other camp spots called Rock Camp.

533
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a little hill and it over this little hill

534
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 2>overlooks the camp spot campsite, and then it overlooks the uh,

535
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the main campfire, and we have little camp outs there

536
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 2>and I would put the recorders up on the hill there.

537
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:03.319
<v Speaker 2>And if these were Sasquatch, I think the juvenile Sasquatch

538
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>were coming in and they're watching us. And I was

539
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 2>capturing these weird language sounds on there, like native sounding sounds.

540
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It didn't sound like the Sierra sounds. It sounded more

541
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>like some kind of weird native primitive language. To me,

542
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying the Sierra sounds aren't real, but I'm

543
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>just saying I've never heard the Sierra sounds before. And

544
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>actually I the Sierra sounds is something I wanted to

545
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>capture up on the hill next to our house up here.

546
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I was hoping to get that on audio. Of course

547
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>we've got something else, so so yeah, I know, I've

548
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 2>been around all over Washington State. I'm in different lakes

549
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and trying to find footprints. I found many possible juvenile

550
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>footprints along these lakes, including Bumping Lake and the lake

551
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>that's near us. I think the juveniles will frequent those

552
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>lakes for whoever reasons. I have no idea why, but

553
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're looking for crawfish or fish and or other things.

554
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>But I do think the bigfoot do like the lakes,

555
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and I think there's a lot of activity around those lakes.

556
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. I'm still waiting for my confirmation siting.

557
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been doing this for ten years now,

558
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know. I mean, you kind of get

559
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a burnout, so to speak, you know,

560
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>for doing this for this long. And I don't know

561
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>what needs to happen for a confirmation siting for me,

562
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you know. I you know, some people will say, well,

563
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>what about that audio that you captured, isn't that enough?

564
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I still want the confirmation setting. I

565
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like I spent a lot of

566
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.519
<v Speaker 2>time and money and effort doing this, just like everybody

567
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>else is doing in this subject. And I don't know

568
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>these things. They're just so elusive. It's uh, I don't know.

569
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I if I if I never, if I never get

570
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a confirmation siding fine, I mean, I know what happens

571
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>with people. But right now I'm kind of just taking

572
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>a break from researching. I need to, I guess I

573
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>need to refocus myself. And one other thing I want

574
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to mention is, uh, there's a one of our We

575
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>have a research area up on this mountain here about

576
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes away from us, and we we captured something

577
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 2>on a plot watcher and actually in August twenty twenty

578
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to me, it looks like a gorilla on all fours.

579
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>We put a plotwatch up on this up on the

580
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>stump that kind of overlooks this little goalie up on

581
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>this mountain mountain up here, and I wanted to go

582
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>up to this mountain because it kind of it's kind

583
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>of similar to the hill that's up above our house

584
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 2>over here. I think I think the Sasquatch like high places,

585
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and they'll travel to these little high places they like

586
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>being high up and you know, if you got water

587
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and if you got food sources around, that's the perfect

588
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 2>environment for them. So we went up on the small

589
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 2>mountain over here and we put up this plot watcher.

590
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>A plot watcher is a a camera that will I

591
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know even know if they make these anymore, but

592
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a camera that would take these still photographs like

593
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>every five seconds, and then when you watch it back,

594
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>it'll be like a time lapse video, so it will

595
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 2>go by really like when you're watching it, it goes

596
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 2>by really quickly. But but we put a we put

597
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>this plotwatcher up on the stump overlooking the scully because

598
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 2>down in the goalie there there was a we were

599
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>finding some possible footprints, like a lot of traffic down

600
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 2>in this goalie part in the in the ground, and

601
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>so we wanted to try to capture whatever was walking

602
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 2>through there. And on the plot watcher, you see this gorilla.

603
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>To me, it looks like a gorilla on all fours

604
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>running by, running through the goalie, like going from left

605
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to right, and you only see it for a few

606
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, when you watch it back, it's in frames.

607
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not in FULK video. But to me, it doesn't

608
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 2>look like a bear. There are black bear up there,

609
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>but to me, this doesn't look like a bear. It

610
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>looks more like a gorilla. And other people who have

611
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>viewed it also think it could be something other than

612
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 2>a bearer. But in terms of like visual something captured visually,

613
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 2>that's really the only thing significant that we have. And

614
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>it's unfortunate that it's in frames like that, and it's

615
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 2>in seven to twenty p it's not the best resolution,

616
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 2>and the subject's kind of far when a plot watcher

617
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>is far away from the object, but you can see it.

618
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Whatever this thing is is big, you know, looks like

619
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I say, it looks like a gorilla running an all fours,

620
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a squadrupedal. It looks like it has a human way

621
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 2>gorilla form to it in my opinion. So so yeah,

622
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I I've been doing this for ten years

623
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and I and I'm happy with some of the things

624
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I've captured, but at the same time I don't At

625
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the same time, I'm not really I still am not

626
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>sure that I have bigfoot, Like I don't know if

627
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I have bigfoot on this audio or these pictures in video.

628
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I still don't know. What's making these footprints. So that's

629
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the frustrating part for me. You know, I've been doing

630
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 2>this for ten years and I'm not I've captured some things,

631
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know what it is. You know, I

632
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>can't say for sure it's bigfoot, that's right. Actually I

633
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>tell people, you know, with my evidence that or if

634
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you want to call it evidence, maybe data maybe maybe

635
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe a better word is data. But it's it's tough

636
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to collect all this data over the years and you

637
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>can't really say for sure it's bigfoot, but it's unexplainable

638
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 2>it could be. So, you know, like I said, right now,

639
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of taking a break from the subject. I

640
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>just need I just need time to regroup myself and

641
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>figure out what to do next, because I've been I've

642
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 2>been researching all over the place. I've been going on

643
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of camp outs and but lately, unfortunately, I

644
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>haven't had much If you want to collectivity happen. So

645
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I just need to refocus and figure out what to

646
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>do next. And oh and one other thing I want

647
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to mention. My mother found some possible bigfoot scat near

648
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>near Mountaineer a few years ago, and the scat is

649
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 2>as big as a coke can. We actually have an

650
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in a freezer in our basement, went in our garage actually,

651
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 2>but she collected two scat samples and they're pretty big.

652
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Definitely not a bear. It's pretty much like double the

653
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>size of a human sky but really large. And she

654
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>found that twenty feet from a gifting stump that she had.

655
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>She was gifting more food in an area near Mountaineer

656
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and she happened to find a scat twenty feet away

657
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>from a gifting stump that she had, And that was

658
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 2>around twenty seventeen and we've had that ever since in

659
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>an inn freezer downstairs. And like I said, they're the

660
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 2>size of a coke can. So and we've had a

661
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 2>researcher look at him and he thinks they're he thinks

662
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it's probably bigfoot. So in terms of physical evidence like that,

663
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>that's really physical evidence. It's really the only thing that

664
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>we have that we have other than some casts. But

665
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't even of those casts that we have a

666
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>footprints are or bigfoot. We even have a we even

667
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>have a small juvenile possible juvenile hand cast too that

668
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 2>we cast a pumping lake. But yeah, I mean, I've

669
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>been really into audio. I've been really into capturing audio,

670
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, I I love doing it, but

671
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 2>it's really a pain because you got to sit there

672
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and you got to listen through hours and hours of

673
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 2>audio to find something and then you know, when you

674
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>find something that's cool, but you know, it's a it's

675
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a long process, and uh, you know, I really love

676
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 2>doing I really love capturing audio. But when you don't

677
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>capture audio, yeah, like I I haven't really captured anything

678
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>significant in a while, so it's been it's been pretty

679
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>frustrating for me. But yeah, like I said, where I

680
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>am now, I'm just kind of taking a break from

681
00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the subject in terms of research and just for or

682
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 2>not what to do next. And hopefully, hopefully soon I

683
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 2>have that confirmation sighting if and when I get back

684
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 2>out there. But you know, it's been it's been an

685
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>interesting journey so far. You know, whoever thought I would

686
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>been able to capture things I have that I have captured,

687
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>never would have thought that would have happened, especially those

688
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 2>vocals that are bumping like the chorus audio those That

689
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 2>was the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life. Ah,

690
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>And I hope other people get to experience that because

691
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean again, if somebody was hoaxing me, if

692
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody was hoaxing me with those vocals, somehow they did

693
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 2>a really good job because it's I don't know, that

694
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was just the most insane thing I've ever heard. So

695
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, and going forward, I'm hoping to

696
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 2>make a an audio library. I would love to make

697
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>an audio library, like a database where like everybody, like

698
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>even David Ellis, Chris Spencer and o the people that

699
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>that capture and get audio from people, maybe we can

700
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 2>create a database together of possible bigfoot sounds, you know,

701
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of like kind of like a database like you know,

702
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>like you know, they have the Autobond or you know,

703
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the different wildlife audio databases out there, so maybe we

704
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>can make one for possible bigfoot. I think that would

705
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>be very helpful for people. And so that's one of

706
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>my goals other than getting in confirmation setting. And yeah,

707
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 2>that's my story right now. Honestly, it's been a heg

708
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>of a journey.

709
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 1>It sure sounds like it's been Wow, I'll tell you.

710
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, you're just a humble investigator. Tristan It

711
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 1>doesn't give himself nearly enough credit. For his accomplishments. But

712
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, I'm impressed. That's a fact. And

713
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you talk about you want to have a confirmation siding, well,

714
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, you already had one at that railroad bridge.

715
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true, because again I

716
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.079
<v Speaker 2>can't I can't explain what that was, you know, and

717
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you know I've seen I've seen, I've seen everything around here.

718
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I've seen deer Mountain, lion bear, and I know I

719
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>know that wasn't any of those kind of things. So

720
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you're probably right that probably was my confirmation signing. I

721
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>just I guess I just want to see that face.

722
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I always want to see a big foot face.

723
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>So the fact that I didn't get to see the

724
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>face frustrates me. I know I say frustrated a lot,

725
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 2>but that's that frustrated me. But you're right, that's probably

726
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>was my confirmation siding for sure, because I've never seen

727
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>anything like it since. But you know, I I just

728
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>want to see, like I want to see the face

729
00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of a bigfoot, to be honest, I just that's part

730
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>of it. And maybe I'll regret asking for that because

731
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been camping in my car lately. That's

732
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of gotten out of the whole tent thing

733
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 2>and I've been camping in my car and one of

734
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.519
<v Speaker 2>my fears is waking up and seeing a face in

735
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>the window. You know. But I do want to see

736
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 2>a face, I really do. I just want to see

737
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 2>a big foot face. I'm going to look at it.

738
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And I know people say don't look at it in

739
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>the eyes, but I don't know. I kind of feel

740
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>like I need that. I don't know that kind of

741
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 2>will really solidify the whole thing for me if I

742
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>if I actually see the face looking at me. So

743
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 2>but I think you're right, Vick. I think that probably

744
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>was so far that would be my confirmation sighting. Yes,

745
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the thing with the flowing hair, I don't Again, I

746
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that was. It was. That was crazy

747
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to see, too.

748
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Man. Crazy is a good way to sum it up.

749
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 1>And you know it is, the more money you get,

750
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the more things you want. That's just human nature. I mean,

751
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>that had to be the best way to describe that experience.

752
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Was incredible. That was an incredible experience you had. I'm

753
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 1>wondering though, if you were below that raarroad bridge, but

754
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you could still see the creature running past on all

755
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>fours over that four foot wall. If it wasn't a

756
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>big foot, what do you think it could have been?

757
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a that's a good question. You know, only

758
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>what what is something that big and that's tall running? Yeah,

759
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it was on all fours. It wasn't It wasn't a bipedal.

760
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't upright walking. It was like, you know, it

761
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>was hunched over running. I guess it was pretty close

762
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to what I captured on the plow washer in terms

763
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 2>of being running in all fours. I don't know what it

764
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 2>could have been. You know, there's no there's no other

765
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 2>animal that I can think of that's that large and

766
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>with that kind of hair, the golden not to mention

767
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the color of the golden color, but just to the

768
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 2>length of the hair on it like a main you know,

769
00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 2>it's like actual like main hair. Uh, it's just flowing

770
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 2>in the wind. You know. It's like it's somebody who

771
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.559
<v Speaker 2>hasn't cut their hair in years. That's what it looked like.

772
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>So what other animal around Washington State? I have no idea.

773
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a fox, obviously it wasn't. You know, you

774
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>can go through the whole lineup of animals around there,

775
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and I just can't you can't pinpoint it, especially like

776
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>you said, the size of it. Yeah, it was the top,

777
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, the top of the head and back and

778
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>shoulders of it was crushing the barrier four foot barrier

779
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>four foot rail on the bridge up there, you know.

780
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm five foot five, five foot six, and the

781
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 2>fact that I was able to see that that says

782
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot. So Yeah, And the funny thing is, I've

783
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>been back up there with my mom since then, and

784
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.880
<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen or heard anything up there. I even

785
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>put recorders out in that area and I've never gotten anything.

786
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 2>In fact, she took a bad fall up there one

787
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 2>time and I had to take her to the hospital.

788
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 2>She was okay, But yeah, I don't know, I guess.

789
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's the other thing too, I haven't really I

790
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 2>haven't been back to that spot in a while. And

791
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I haven't even been back to the first spot with

792
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 2>where I saw that thing through, you know, between the trees,

793
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 2>with my dog. I mean, I haven't even really been

794
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>back up there in a while because I think there's

795
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>been a lot more people up in that area, and

796
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's been too crowded. I think there's been

797
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>too many people going up there. And again, if if

798
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 2>it's bigfoot up in that spot, I think they've probably

799
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>moved out because of the you know, the population of

800
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 2>people and how popular that lake is up there.

801
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still around. They

802
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 1>just come out at night when most of the people

803
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 1>are gone. And talking about that second sighting, you had

804
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 1>something to not lose sight of as a fact that

805
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>not only did you see it above that four foot wall,

806
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but you were below the bridge, so that makes it

807
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>even bigger yet.

808
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, man, for sure, it was definitely bigger. Yeah,

809
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>because I don't even know if my dog would have

810
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, if that was my dog, I don't think that.

811
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think of what I would have seen as

812
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>much as I did of it. So you're right right,

813
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 2>it probably probably could have been. It probably was a

814
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 2>big foot, maybe a juvenile, that's my guess. It might

815
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 2>have been a juvenile. And like I said, I heard

816
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>possible whoop sounds before that happened, And I don't know

817
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>if it was the river that I heard, but it

818
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>sounded like whoops to me, like small whoops, So I

819
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe there's something to it there, but yeah,

820
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>that image of the thing running across the bridge is

821
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 2>burned in my mind and I'll never forget it. It

822
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>only happened for a couple of seconds, but I'll never

823
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>forget that.

824
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure you never will. And that siding right

825
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>there is exactly why you're here in the show tonight. Yeah,

826
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you saw a sasquatch. Whether you want to admit it

827
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 1>or not acknowledge that fact or not, you saw a

828
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>sas watch and like I said, that's why you're here tonight.

829
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 1>So just wanted to make sure you're clear on that.

830
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 1>And even if it was a giant dog up on

831
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that bridge, you're below the bridge, like we've already established,

832
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you definitely wouldn't have even seen a giant dog, a

833
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>giant breed up on top of that bridge. If there

834
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was a four foot wall and you're below the bridge, yeah,

835
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have seen a giant breed. So that really

836
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 1>narrows down the possibilities. But let's narrow it down even further.

837
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>You said that you saw its head, shoulders, and upper

838
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 1>back from behind it. How would you describe its shoulders though?

839
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Were they wied like a humans shoulder structure or were

840
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.519
<v Speaker 1>they narrow kind of like a canitz.

841
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, it was like the top half

842
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of it, like the very top half of it, it

843
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>really looked I didn't see any there weren't any points.

844
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It was more rounded. Everything was rounded on it. Like

845
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the top of the head. There was no pointed. It

846
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a pointed head. It was more like a rounded head,

847
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 2>rounded shoulders and back. It was really rounded looking. But

848
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 2>again the hair on it is what uh, the flowing

849
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>hair like. There was definitely more hair up front, like

850
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 2>like I said, almost like a maine I guess, than

851
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 2>in the back part, although the butt part that was

852
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 2>a little bit longer hair in a way. God, it

853
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.519
<v Speaker 2>was just really rounded looking. It was nothing pointed. It's

854
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of hair or fur, I don't know what.

855
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was hair refer but it

856
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 2>was just a lot of that. Like I said, the

857
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 2>shape of it was really rounded. You can't really get

858
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 2>any feature. I couldn't get any features on really distinct

859
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 2>features of it. But like I said, you could see

860
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the top, like the very top of the head, the shoulder, back,

861
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just really rounded looking, just with a lot of

862
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 2>hair and fur flowing behind it. But you know, the

863
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>color of it, like the golden color of it is

864
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 2>something that really stands out to me, Like you know,

865
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like I don't even know if it was really blonde

866
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and somehow I just saw more red or maybe it

867
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 2>was a mixture of red and blonde to make this

868
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:25.320
<v Speaker 2>golden kind of color, but that really stood out to me. Well,

869
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 2>like I said, man, it was so quick. It was

870
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 2>like a couple of seconds. Like you can't really I

871
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 2>can't get as much detail from it, but just the

872
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>top parts, like just top parts of the head and shoulders,

873
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 2>like it was just a real top part of it.

874
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>All the distinct features were below. I guess the barrier there,

875
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I just saw a bunch of it was really more

876
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of hair flowing, golden hair flowing. So

877
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>but like I said, the size of it, like you're

878
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 2>telling me the size of cresting the four foot wall

879
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>was something so uh so yeah, I mean, if it

880
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was juvenile, maybe that maybe they're more rounded, I guess,

881
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 2>not so much pointy. But it was such a it

882
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.480
<v Speaker 2>was like a couple of seconds. It was such a

883
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 2>quick glimpse of this thing and like I said, they

884
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.199
<v Speaker 2>had the the sun is behind it. It was actually

885
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of illuminating it actually, Uh maybe that's why I

886
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:32.199
<v Speaker 2>helped give it it's more golden glow. But yeah, still

887
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about it right now. It's still so weird.

888
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know what happens for a couple of seconds too.

889
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I wish it was longer and I was just filming.

890
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I had my camera in my hand, just didn't think

891
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of pointing it up there because I wasn't expecting. You

892
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 2>don't expect that to happen when you look up my

893
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 2>short sec didn't. I was just looking up to go, okay, Tom,

894
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 2>go back up to the bridge. Then you see this

895
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 2>thing running cross from where my parents were walking too.

896
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, I mean that's the thing, like, when

897
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you get a couple of second glimpses of something like that,

898
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 2>it's it's hard to get as much detail, to recount

899
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 2>as much detail like that, because all I was thinking of,

900
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 2>what's that hair? Was like why is the hair so

901
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>long on this thing? Like what is that? Why does

902
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 2>it look like? Why is the hair look like my

903
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>dog's hair? In a way that really perplexed me most man,

904
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 2>was the length of the hair, Like, what is that?

905
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 1>You know?

906
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 2>I was expecting maybe like an elk or something, But

907
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't got long hair like that. So what in

908
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the wild out here in Washington has that? That was

909
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know. That was just so weird, weird to.

910
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Me, A sasquatch has that? To answer your question, for sure?

911
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 2>For sure, that's right.

912
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 1>And let's nail this down even further. How much further

913
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>below the top lip of that wall on that bridge

914
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>would you say your head was? And how far away

915
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>from the wall were you was your head?

916
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Well? I was like really down. I mean just like

917
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>when I'm up there or down below.

918
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 1>When you're down below, how how many feet below the

919
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>top of that wall would you say your head was

920
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.639
<v Speaker 1>when you saw it? And also how far away would

921
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:20.679
<v Speaker 1>you say your head was from that wall?

922
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Boy, that's pretty far up. I'm not the best

923
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>with numbers. Maybe more than boy, I don't know, maybe

924
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 2>fifteen feet down or fifteen twenty feet down. Maybe I

925
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>had to look up. I'm not the best with numbers

926
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 2>in distance, But like I was, I was not right

927
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>below the bridge, I was kind of far away from

928
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 2>it on the sandbar, looking up at it at an

929
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>angle I actually like it was, you know, coming down

930
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the hill from the bridge down to the sandbar is

931
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of a little It was quick, but you know,

932
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 2>it was a few feet down. Like I feel like,

933
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're right. I don't know if

934
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty feet is right, but that's what That's what

935
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 2>it kind of feels like to me. I mean, it's

936
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>probably more or less than that, but well, I mean

937
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I really have to look up at you know, I

938
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 2>really had to look up, really look up at it

939
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 2>at an angle from where I was. I wasn't like

940
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 2>right below the bridge, I was. I mean, I was

941
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>below the bridge, but you know, I was a little

942
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.199
<v Speaker 2>bit further way on the sandbar from it at an angle.

943
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of tough to say. I can't say

944
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>for sure how many feet down. I'm just guessing, and

945
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:45.159
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm only like five five five five six,

946
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>but going down this bridge, like you kind of have

947
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to kind of trek down a little bit down this

948
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 2>little path to get down to the sandbar. So again,

949
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong about the numbers on this, but

950
00:54:56.679 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just guessing. I probably should back there and actually

951
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>try to measure that, but it's been so many years, man,

952
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been back there in years.

953
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's all right, that's no biggie there. I'll tell

954
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you what though, Like they say, your first guess is

955
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>normally the most accurate one. And if your head was

956
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>close to being fifteen feet below the top edge of

957
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 1>that wall and you could still see it even if

958
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you were a good distance away, your head is still

959
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet below the top of the wall, and if

960
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you could still see it running by, that had to

961
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>make it probably pretty close to six feet Although how

962
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 1>close did it seem like it was to the wall

963
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:36.559
<v Speaker 1>when you saw it?

964
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Pretty close? I mean I think it was. Well, maybe

965
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>because of the angle I was at, it kind of

966
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 2>messed with my perception perspective. I think it was pretty

967
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>close to the wall, but maybe the size of it

968
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of messes with that, you know. Maybe it was

969
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>more closer in the middle between you know, like in

970
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the trackway there, of the of the

971
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:08.599
<v Speaker 2>of the of the bridge railroad bridge. But I think

972
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty close to that. I Well, again, maybe

973
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it was the size of it that made me think

974
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, because maybe it was actually wider,

975
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, so maybe that's why it kind of seemed

976
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 2>like it was closer to the wall edge, but maybe

977
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it was wide. You know, I couldn't tell how wide

978
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it was. So maybe it was actually a lot larger

979
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 2>than I thought it was. And so maybe that's why,

980
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what appeared more closer to the you know,

981
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 2>to the barrier. But he said, yeah, for it to

982
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 2>crest the barrier, it's crazy. Probably was six feet, you know,

983
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and if it was on all well, it wasn't all

984
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 2>for us. I'm just saying, if it's wen on all

985
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.280
<v Speaker 2>fours and it's at six feet, I can't imagine what

986
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, if it's bipedle exactly.

987
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if it's close to six feet tall on all

988
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 1>four is that you're talking about it? Ten eleven, twelve

989
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 1>foot or so? Yeah, that was a big one, I'd say.

990
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>But as it was running by, I know it was

991
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a railroad bridge, but could you hear its feet impacting

992
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 1>the bridge?

993
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 2>No? No, And I actually think the water, the running water,

994
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 2>it kind of helped that because well and also I

995
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know if the concrete, like the concrete part of

996
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the bridge kind of I don't know. I I've never

997
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I never really paid attention to like if your footsteps,

998
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, will make sounds up there, like you know,

999
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 2>how how loud you know footsteps will be on that bridge.

1000
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think the water was kind of masking any

1001
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of sound because it was pretty The water itself

1002
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 2>is pretty loud, you know, That's what That's all I

1003
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 2>was hearing. So I think the water might have been

1004
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 2>masking any kind of sound that it was making as

1005
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it was running by, because it was so like, you know,

1006
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think anything. I didn't hear it or anything

1007
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 2>like that. I just happened to glance up and look

1008
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.920
<v Speaker 2>at the bridge and see the same running by, So

1009
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I didn't hear any any any sound,

1010
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>like any footsteps or anything like that as was running.

1011
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 2>It was totally silent. And again I'm probably I think

1012
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I I think the reason is because of the water,

1013
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the rushing water through there, because you know, it was

1014
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty loud. The water is pretty loud for there, So

1015
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's that's another reason why he was able to

1016
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.119
<v Speaker 2>do that, because you know, the water was masking that

1017
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it sound. And and also I've heard that you know,

1018
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 2>a big foot are actually also silent too. Sometimes when

1019
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 2>you know you don't even hear them come up to

1020
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you or anything like that, so different factors could have

1021
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 2>been involved there. But no, I didn't hear it at all.

1022
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 2>I just happened to glance up and look and happen

1023
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to catch this thing running across the bridge for a

1024
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 2>couple of seconds. So it seemed like all of the

1025
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 2>right elements were you know what I mean, Like everything

1026
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 2>was all in place for it to sneak by, so

1027
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to speak. You know, it's opportunity, and it did it.

1028
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, it took its chance.

1029
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh of course it did. Yeah, these guys are masterful

1030
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>at taking advantage of everything in the environment around them,

1031
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:15.639
<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't come as a surprise at all. I'm wondering, though,

1032
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>not knowing how long that bridge was or how fast

1033
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the subject was running, I would just say that the

1034
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch was running. Did you ever have yourge to try

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<v Speaker 1>to put yourself in a position where you could have

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00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>seen the subject more clearly? Or was it running so

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00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 1>fast or was the bridge so short that doing that

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00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the angle that was that was it was impossible

1040
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:40.960
<v Speaker 2>for me to run right back up to the bridge,

1041
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 2>like run back up this little trail up onto the bridge.

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00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's kind of an incline to get back

1043
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:50.840
<v Speaker 2>up there and down because it happened so quickly, like

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00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple of seconds, and I wouldn't have been able

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00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to I wouldn't have been able to get up there

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00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>quick enough to see it. And like I said, I

1047
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.199
<v Speaker 2>tried to get a beat on it, Like I ran

1048
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.280
<v Speaker 2>down that trail to catch a beat on it. It

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01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was long gone. No I I there was. I don't

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01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 2>think it was any I'm trying to remember. I don't

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01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>think there's any way. I wouldn't have been able to

1052
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.679
<v Speaker 2>see it any better for my position down there, because

1053
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that concrete bridge kind of took up the whole line

1054
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 2>of sight, so to speak. And like I said, I mean,

1055
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I happened to just be looking in one spot on

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01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 2>that bridge and happen to see it. So I just

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01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of get I guess I wasn't in the right

1058
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.400
<v Speaker 2>line of sight to get a better look at it.

1059
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I wish I was, but I just wasn't in the

1060
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 2>right spot, I guess, you know, to see its face

1061
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.079
<v Speaker 2>or to see the front of it or anything like that.

1062
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Just the top half of it, very tip top half

1063
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 2>of it. It was so quick, man, that thing was

1064
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 2>so quick, just just to see it for a couple

1065
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.440
<v Speaker 2>of seconds, like the like blind seconds. Yeah, it was

1066
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.320
<v Speaker 2>so fast. It took its chance, man, like you knew

1067
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 2>when to take its chance. And I actually think I think,

1068
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe when I saw my dog, I think

1069
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I also might have spooped it out of fighting because

1070
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I hear you know, I don't think bigfoot like dogs,

1071
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.519
<v Speaker 2>so maybe that kind of freaked them out, along with

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01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:24.760
<v Speaker 2>my parents walking up to it.

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01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, I think it's more of a function

1074
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of them realizing that if you have a knid with you,

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01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the dogs are much more likely to detect them than

1076
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what a person is. So I think that that's kind

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01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.039
<v Speaker 1>of what puts them off right there, more so than

1078
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:41.480
<v Speaker 1>anything else. But I could be wrong. I mean, I

1079
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 1>can't think for these guys. But what I do know

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01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 1>is I think you should be commended for the job

1081
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you did. You didn't have much time to collect as

1082
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.920
<v Speaker 1>many details as you could, but you still did that.

1083
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 1>You noticed all sorts of things that a lot of

1084
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:57.440
<v Speaker 1>people would have missed. So, like I said, you should

1085
01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>be commended for that.

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01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you. Well, I mean, you know, like I said, like,

1087
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 2>when you see a striking image like that, it's kind

1088
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of burned in your mind. But you know, you kind

1089
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>of hate it that it don't happen for a couple

1090
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of seconds. You wish you got a longer look at it.

1091
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm happy

1092
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to share it. You know, I'm kind of again the

1093
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that, well, I know you, I know you tell

1094
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 2>me it's a big foot, but the fact that I

1095
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.519
<v Speaker 2>can't confirm it myself that it's a big foot. It's

1096
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of tough to tell people about it because, you know,

1097
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell them, like, yeah, that's

1098
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot or not. But I saw something. I saw

1099
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 2>something I can't explain it, and something I've never seen

1100
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.840
<v Speaker 2>before out here, and I've been you know, I've been

1101
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 2>researching out in these woods for so many years, and

1102
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything like that before. So it's something that,

1103
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, something to share and something to tell other people,

1104
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm happy to do it, happy to get it

1105
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 2>out there. And I'm hoping I can go back to

1106
01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 2>up this trail sometime soon, just to just check out

1107
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:02.599
<v Speaker 2>the area and see if the bridges see what the

1108
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 2>bridge looks like maybe I can get better measurements of

1109
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the bridge. You know, maybe I can go back to

1110
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the where I was standing, or pretty close to where

1111
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I was standing, and you know, maybe take a picture,

1112
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe get better measurements.

1113
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I hope you can do that sometime. That'd be great

1114
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 1>if you could. And understand, Tristan, I don't ask eyewitnesses

1115
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to tell me what it was that they saw. I

1116
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:29.960
<v Speaker 1>just want them to tell me what happened when they

1117
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.719
<v Speaker 1>had their experiences. Just put the facts out there. What

1118
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 1>did you see, what did you hear, What did you smell?

1119
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 1>What did you experience? And let that evidence speak for itself.

1120
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you've done. And guess what you saw

1121
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch?

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01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know what, And speaking of smell, we

1123
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't smell anything. I didn't smell. I don't recall smelling

1124
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 2>anything even when when even when we when we went

1125
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 2>back up to when I went back up to the bridge,

1126
01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and when my parents came back, I don't recall ever

1127
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 2>smelling anything odd. So not to say that Bigfoot always

1128
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 2>has a bad odor, but that's I'm glad you brought

1129
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that up to smell, because I don't recall any kind

1130
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 2>of smell, so I thought that was an interesting thing too.

1131
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's one of the things about sasquatch. Some people

1132
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.119
<v Speaker 1>are almost right up on them and they don't smell anything.

1133
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Other people are a distance away and they smell that

1134
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:24.639
<v Speaker 1>horrible stink. I think they have what are called apocrine

1135
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:27.559
<v Speaker 1>glands underneath their arm pits, the same way gorillas do.

1136
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.079
<v Speaker 1>That they can turn on and turn off to emit

1137
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that odor. But I could be wrong about that. It's

1138
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 1>just so hard to know it really is. But I'll

1139
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you what, Tristan. We are out of time, so

1140
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm gonna call it. But before I do,

1141
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the vocalizations that you recorded. Is there any

1142
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 1>way that the listeners can check those out?

1143
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have a I don't have a website

1144
01:04:55.400 --> 01:05:00.119
<v Speaker 2>for with them or anything like that, but I've I've

1145
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 2>been included in some documentaries. I'll I'll just say one

1146
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 2>documentary that they're included in called Search for Save Bumping Lake.

1147
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.159
<v Speaker 2>They can look that up and they have a clip

1148
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 2>of my audio on there, so that's where people can

1149
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 2>go listen to it. But yeah, it's out there, there's

1150
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 2>clips of it out there. If they want to listen

1151
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 2>to it, and I just want to tell people that

1152
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 2>that really happened. Those vocals really happened, and you know,

1153
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes NonStop. You know, again, if somebody was hoaxing me,

1154
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:39.159
<v Speaker 2>they did a really good job. Because I don't know,

1155
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 2>it's up at two in the morning. Somehow call blasting

1156
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:46.760
<v Speaker 2>those kinds of sounds for thirty minutes with that kind

1157
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 2>of lung capacity. And not to mention the multiple individuals

1158
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that you can hear in the audio, the female possible

1159
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:59.960
<v Speaker 2>kid vocals that you hear crazy stuff, crazy stuf.

1160
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Of what I'll do is I'm going to get with

1161
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you after we wrap here, and if you can send

1162
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.800
<v Speaker 1>me a link or we can check out those audio recordings,

1163
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.239
<v Speaker 1>then I'll just post that link in the description for

1164
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.280
<v Speaker 1>tonight's show. That'll make it really easy.

1165
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good. That sounds good?

1166
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 1>All right? Great, Well, like I told you before, we

1167
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 1>did this. Thanks so much for your time. I really

1168
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 1>do appreciate it, appreciate you coming on to tell us

1169
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.920
<v Speaker 1>about those experiences as well. And in the future, if

1170
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I can never help you out, please let me know.

1171
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Well. I really appreciate it, Vick, and thank you for

1172
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 2>contacting me, and I'm sorry I kind of jumped around.

1173
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I jumped around a little bit, but I was just

1174
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 2>trying to remember all these things that you know, that

1175
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced and collected, So I was just trying to

1176
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 2>get those in as much as I could. But I

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01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it, and it was great to talk to

1178
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 2>you and hope to speak to you again.

1179
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Well it's been great talking with you, so having said that,

1180
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:07.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks again so much, and have a great night. That's

1181
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff.

1182
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.519
<v Speaker 1>If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would like to

1183
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.920
<v Speaker 1>be a guest on the show, please go to Bigfoot

1184
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.320
<v Speaker 1>eyewitness dot com and submit a report.

1185
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 2>We'd love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have

1186
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 2>a great night.