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Speaker 3: Welcome in Cougar Sports Insider representing BYU Athletics. We got
Matt via Monte on the line. Matt, how you living, brother?
Speaker 1: I'm living good Man. How are you doing, Ben?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good Man, just living the dream. Look, there
was some weeping, wailing and national teeth. Obviously last night
I thought that by you could possibly get blown out,
but the Cardiac Koogs made it a close one. There
are silver linings. What were your silver linings from the
matchup last night at the Mary Center.
Speaker 1: Well, the most obvious silver lining is MoU Canard Davis
finally breaking out of one of the chilliest slumps I've
ever seen through the first half in Goffs play this
is before in the second half where he went five
to five, he hit seventeen points and he was red hot.
But at the end of the first half his streak
had ballooned the four of thirty from three, which if
you're doing your math at homes, that's below fourteen percent.
Speaker 4: And we all know how critical it is for.
Speaker 1: Mood, Davis and others, not just Mood but others to
compliment the Big three. So I think it is a
huge silver lining to have him go five to five
from three in the second half, and then you get
a couple of triples from postitch off the bench. Maybe
that's someone you can sprinkle in from here to there,
and then I think AJ alluded to this post game.
But I do think another silver lining is in those
final six minutes, in particular to final four. It felt
like you saw the style of play that we all
want to see, which is sharing the ball, getting up
and down, being a little more deliberate and running plays
rather than your turn, my turn. And there's a place
for that. I'm not saying there's not.
Speaker 4: When someone's cooking, whether it's.
Speaker 1: The AJ or Rob or Richie, see the hot player
of the ball, there's always going to be a place
for isolation plays, but your identity needs to be based
on moving without the basketball. Sharing the ball might be
personal preference, man, but I don't love possessions where someone
dribbles it down, backs into a corner, or gets a
pick and roll and the ball never moves, it's never
passed anyone. And I felt like there was too many
of those possessions when Arizona was getting that lead of
nineteen where the ball wasn't moving, And then to me,
it's no surprise that the lead is TRENMD. You're seeing
the ball move around, Rob's distributing, Richie's hitting threes, moves
hitting three.
Speaker 4: So there were a lot of silver linings and.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to build from that second half.
Speaker 3: Is you know, you bring up a really point here, Okay,
you wonder if the first half is almost like a h.
Speaker 2: An NBA style schematic.
Speaker 3: You know, foray, you know there's a lot of ISO
ball and BYU you know has struggled. I mean, look,
from an efficiency standpoint, there's seventieth in the in the
nation in the first half. They're number one in the
nation in the second half. So my biggest scripe is
first half inefficiency, and I wonder if it's the schematics
and the approach offensively that is determining that in the
first half. Give me your thoughts on this, On this
theory that I have.
Speaker 1: Going, it's not a bad theory. I think if I
wanted to poke holes in the theory, I would say,
if AJ, you know, shot the ball better, then maybe
we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Because AJ was
inefficient and Rob was inefficient. Those are two performances from
two of your three best players that you don't normally get.
They're normally a lot better than that. Rob, in particular,
he had been unbelievable in conference play. His scoring was
up in conference play, and from a three point percentage perspective,
he's the best three point percentage shooter on the team.
So what happened to Rob against Arizona is not indicative
of the way that he's played in league play at all.
So that's where I would maybe poke holes in that
is just, hey, you know, to quote AJ, we just
missed shots. But at the same time I think.
Speaker 2: That we're getting though, right, Matt, right.
Speaker 1: Well, And that's what I was gonna say then, which
was okay, Isolation ball can work and you have great players,
but I think isolation ball hurts the role players the
most because they go multiple possessions without touching the basketball,
not being involved. There's a play in the first half
where Aj had it in the right corner down by
the rock and he was waiting.
Speaker 4: For movement and there was no movement.
Speaker 1: And you know, was that a byproduct of iso ball
or was that the play?
Speaker 4: Who knows for sure, But I do think it is
very clear.
Speaker 1: From that second half and that this team has got
to find ways to spread the ball round more. We
saw it in the Utah game two to one assists,
turnover ratio, seventeen assists. There just wasn't quite that flow
for the majority of the Arizona game, and I think
it hurt them.
Speaker 3: Matt, you mentioned some of the silver linings. What is
the identity of this bau Mensed basketball team. I mean, look,
they have three losses. This is a fantastic team, right
This is an awesome team, maybe an elite a team,
maybe better than that.
Speaker 2: But what's the identity of this team? Would you say?
Speaker 1: To be honest, Ben, I don't know that there is
an identity right now, and I think that's to come
back to the silver lining. I think that's what is
so encouraging about that second half surge is maybe you
ratchet up the pressure defensively, maybe you get up tempo
a little bit more, and you spread the ball round
and maybe shoot a few more threes. You know, you
don't need to become reliant on the three. And that's
not to say you don't get Aj the ball in
the mid range, where he's been deadly all season. But
from game to game, I'm not sure that this team
had the style or an identity. And in a lot
of ways, Ben, I think that's to be expected. When
you bring in three new starters, you bring in new
role players, there's a lot of change. And I think
that's something to remember with this group is Rob is
a new point guard, and he's a vastly different point
guard than Yegor was last year.
Speaker 4: And then you throw in Aj.
Speaker 1: You know you did not have an Aj in talent
or style last year. And then on top of that,
you bring in Canard mood Davis to play a specific
role that he's never played before. I know that Kay
why and the staff wasn't to be more three and D,
but it's Southern Illinois, he was more of a well
balanced scorer. So I still think that this team needs
to find that identity if they're going to round into
a Final four team. And the good news is we
were having the same conversation last year in January. It's
the identity, what's going to happen Ky and the team
that figured it out. But as of right now, I
still think they are trying to lock in on what
that identity is, and hopefully yesterday revealed exactly what that
identity can be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something that I brought up earlier in the show.
It's like, look, we were saying the same things about
free throw shooting and identity in late januaryly February, and
then somehow, some way they got back on the right track.
They started hitting free throws down the stretch and started
playing their best basketball in late February. So I feel
like that trend, that trajectory is going to be that's
going to occur once again this season.
Speaker 2: You got to trust in this coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Right Oh No, I mean this coaching staff is an
elite coaching staff. I thought there were several moments at
the end of that game that highlighted just how special
this group is, whether it be Kevin Young calling timeouts
at the right time to dial up plays to.
Speaker 4: Even get them in the position they were in.
Speaker 1: And I thought too in the second half, and he decided,
you know what, we're throwing out Boskovich, We're throwing out Pastitch.
I mean, there was a lineup at one point where
it looked like Aj was the five.
Speaker 4: I know it's positionless basketball.
Speaker 1: But it was Aj, Rob Voskovic, co Stitch and Richie
and you're like, man, this is a stark contrast to
what you saw in the first half and against Utah
where you had lineups with Aj Poskovich on med and.
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting another tall dude, but well, it.
Speaker 1: Felt like there was four guys that were six or
nine or above and then they go small. I thought
that was a beautiful wrinkle in that second half. Comeback
to say, you know what, we haven't run this group
very much, but we need to spread the floor, we
need to get up and down, and we need to
shoot the ball. And then they go fifty percent from
three and they have the most success they had in
that game. So this coaching staff is elite. They're going
to figure it out and now it's it's really up
to some of the role players to show that they
can be consistent that being can can move build on this.
Can he stay out of the slump and become a
thirty five to three point shooter? Does coast It's become
a guy that you fill in to maybe to maybe
take some of those shots that you wanted Dawson Baker to.
Speaker 4: Have earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: If he's taken three or fourth breeds the game and
hitting at a thirty five percent clip, that's a big addition.
So I have full support and belief that this staff
will figure it out. You've got the talent, You've got
the staff, and now the players just need to make
it happen.
Speaker 3: Matt bayam on to hear on your Utah ESPN Radio
network one of the play by play voices for BYU
Athletic Stockings and BYU Basketball.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You mentioned coach Stick. I called him Alexi Coastick curry Man.
He was in fuego. Were you hoping for a heat check?
Speaker 2: I was. I was hoping for a heat check. Uh.
And he never touched the ball again? Why use that?
Speaker 3: Is that more of a player isher or a coaching
issue when Coastick, who has the hot end, gets another
look within the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you'd have to maybe put on
the players because I feel like in that second half,
you know, there was not enough ball to go around.
Richie was playing his best basketball of the night. Canard
Davis went five to five. You can make the case
he didn't get the ball enough. Maybe he should have
been the recipient of the final shot on a kickout
for a three point of the way he had played
in the second even who had the whole team is
scoring in the second half of seventeen Postitch deserves some
more looks. So I think it's I think it's difficult
in some of those stases when as a team you're
really hot, what do you do if you were Rob Wright,
because he still has that elite.
Speaker 4: Skill set to get to the rim. Wasn't his night,
as we discussed, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a case where I would have
liked to see him get a few more shots. But
also what was Arizona doing potentially on the defensive end
to take that away? And there was a careless turnover
in the second half involving Coastitch that lost you a possession.
Who knows that that played into it as well. But
regardless of how many attempts he had, the fact that
he came in and made shots and was a positive
contributor against the number one team in the nation, that's
something you can build on as you go to Kansas
on Saturday. Sprinkle in a little more coastitch. Can he
ride that? Continue to get Moo Davis some looks because
you need those threes. That's why I think as painful
as it was to not get a quality look at
the rim, and I don't want to just that is painful.
There's no if fans or butts about it. Ben. To
not get a better look in a final shot, that hurts,
But that doesn't disparage all the good and some of
the answers you found in the test in the second.
Speaker 3: Half, Matt, I do want to transition here a little segue.
Are you most optimistic about basketball? The trajectory of basket
ball or football? Which one are you more optimistic about?
The you know, and I'm talking like five years down
the roads, like you know, you're looking at like the
trajectory of both these brands, both of these programs, they're
they look maybe on equivalent pass. But which one are
you more more optimistic about in its future?
Speaker 1: Well, I am optimistic about both. I do want to
put that out there, but if I had to pick one,
I am more optimistic about basketball for a couple of reasons.
Number One, this is completely out of control of anyone
at BYU, but basketball, the sport of basketball, the organization
of NCAA basketball. It is more conducive to winning because
other teams in a BYU position have been able to
make that. I don't want to call it a turnaround
because bo has been good for a long time, but
you can kind of spring up out of nowhere and
become a power. We saw it with Gonzaga. We've seen
it with Butler. I know they've kind of fallen back off,
but there was a period of time where Butler was
going to the Final Four. The way that college basketball
has been put into a framework makes it easier to
compete because there is a net rating system that is
equal to all. It can benefit the top conference and
it can benefit a mid major conference. The net ranking
system Quad one, Quad two, Quad three, Quad four, it
helps us contextualize a lot of these games. College football
doesn't have that. And then on top of that, you
have a fair tournament where there is equal opportunity for
everyone to qualify. And I love in college basketball how
you're not penalized for a close loss like what's happened
last night. In a lot of ways, that might be
a positive that you went toe to toe and had
a comeback against an Arizona team. So the framework of
college basketball allows for a BYU to bringing it to
Kevin Young and just vaulted the top. Whereas college football
you can put all the money in the world in there,
the rosters are so much bigger that doesn't guarantee chemistry.
And then on top of that, you've got a system
with the committee that is very clearly biased and unfair
in the way that they evaluate teams, even amongst the
power conferences. The fact that BYU was never even considered
this past season is a travesty in a crime because
they deserve to be in the conversation. Ben You can
make the case that they didn't have the resume to
be in front of Miami or Notre Dame, which I
believe is ridiculous, but they weren't even in the conversation.
The practice was taken off the show on ESPN Show.
For Evin's sakes, what else can you do? There's already prognostications,
to use one of your favorite words, Ben for next
season that if BOU doesn't go undefeated and win the
Big Twelve, they will be considered Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: That is to me, that's that's ridiculous. So that just
makes it incredibly hard. Look a lot of the football program,
they're doing all the right things. They're the player attention
is great, their recruiting is great, but the system itself
doesn't allow for a BYU to get in in a
in a fair way that makes sense. And so for
that reason alone, I have to give the nod to
the basketball program.
Speaker 3: What what what's your theory on why the Big twelve
isn't getting the respect that it could deserve?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You know, some people feel, you know, both the ACC
and the Big Twelve are kind of on equal footing.
Look at what Miami did though this year, and maybe
that's swaying in their direction. But what's your theory on
on why maybe the Big Twelve is on the outside
looking in a little bit as far as respect UH
preseason rankings is concerned, et cetera.
Speaker 1: It's very simple. Then they are missing Texas and Oklahoma.
And even though Texas and Oklahoma they've had some highs
of late, but they have not been perennial powers in
terms of postseason success for quite some time. Doesn't matter
because that's this sport, college football. I love it, but
it's so frustrating. They value the name, the logo, and
the brand cachet, which ironically, Boy has all those things
and you have. They're left out way more than quality.
The ACC, in my opinion, was far superior than the
Big Twelve this past season, even though Miami made a
nice run and went to the National Championship game. From
top to bottom, there was teams in that league that
were way down. I mean, there's teams that have been
good in that league that are really bad. Virginia Tech
historically has been a good football program. They stink. I
don't know if they could beat you know, some of
the lower teams in the Big Twelve. They stink. Florida
State they had that little glow up for a minute.
They're back down and trying to figure it out. But
the difference is the ACC does have those names. You know, Miami,
the U Florida State a huge name, in college football.
Speaker 4: Clemson of recent.
Speaker 1: Years has turned into a really nice program. It doesn't
matter if they are bad. Those are still names that
you know and love and that you want to be
at the top of college football. The Big Twelve unfortunately,
does not have any names like that, and I think
they're being penalized for that. Even though you look at
let's say, teams ten to one in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4: I think that they could go toe to toe, if not.
Speaker 1: Beat their counterparts in the ACC. But you don't look
at a BYU or a Texas Tech and consider them
on the same historical plane as a Florida State in Miami.
I think it's unfair. To my previous point, I hate
it about college football, even though I love the sports
so much and every Saturday is incredible. In college football,
it's not judged fairly and it's not judge off merit,
and to me, it is simply because you do not
have a historical quote unquote blue blood at the top
to promote.
Speaker 3: If you could have one or two things, expansion of
the playoff right with the subjective human committee still making
the decision. Let's say it's sixteen teams that they expand
to or having a you know, you can still have
the committee, but it's weighted equally with an algorithm, So
you get a metric. Maybe it's sp plus combined with
AP combined with Sagarin combined with you know, whatever metric
right that you're going to utilize to give the objective
data point. But you also have the human elements still
in place with the committee. They waited equally, but you
only get twelve teen. Which one would you rather have it?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: It's a no brainer, Ben, And then it's an expanded
playoff because these corrupt is not the right word, that's
probably two hard a word. But these committee members, these
these high ranking officials that determine college football, they'll just
move the goalpost. Then we've already seen it, like the
fact that there are recruiting rankings that factor into this,
and you just say, oh, Michigan signs this kid from Utah,
let's elevate into five star. Oh BYU, you bring in
Walker Lions and four start, and they'll just move the goalpost.
We've seen it in the recruiting rankings for years with BYU,
and they'll just do that with algorithms. So to me,
the only thing that's fair is to expand this playoff
as far out as you can to include as many teams.
And that's why this doesn't happen in college basketball because
when you have sixty plus team sixty eight teams in
the field, you can't really have a gripe if you're
team sixty nine because there's everyone that is truly deserving
is getting into the NCAA tournament. If you want to
do twelve and have all these metrics, well, they'll just
find ways to have the metrics benefit the schools that
they want to be in. So, to me, the only
way to solve some of that is to actually take
significantly less power away from the committee. I hate that I'm.
Speaker 4: Even saying this, Ben, but maybe you give two.
Speaker 1: Automatic qualifiers to every conference and then a few more
than the others to guarantee that the team's playing in
the championship get in. To me, that's the only way
to get some level of fairness in college football, because
whether it be the BCS rankings or the AP voter
twos of the National Championship, there's been a history in
this sport of moving the goldposts to benefit the blue bloods,
and that would just continue if you had a twelve
team playoff, but you found a way to put in
the algorithms and it wouldn't result in what we want,
and what we want is fairness and an opportunity for
teams that deserve it to compete.
Speaker 4: For a national championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Does it make you optimistic though the trajectory of college football.
Knowing that in Indiana won the Natty that Miami was
the runner up.
Speaker 1: Yes, that does make it optimistic for sure, because Indiana,
it's well documented how poor they were, and you know,
they built a culture, and they mined the transfer portal,
and they built a team and I had a great
chemistry and they did everything the right way. So that
is an optimistic piece of it. But what's gonna happen
to the Indianas of the world when they've got Biu's
resume and they get blown out in a conference championship
game and theyir ten and two. Are they gonna get
the benefit of the doubt or the is a blue
blood of an equal record gonna get put in front
of them because they're gonna draw maybe a better TV rating,
or they're gonna have a little sex year of a
matchup and you put the logos on the screen.
Speaker 4: That wasn't something that we can.
Speaker 1: Answer this year because Indiana won every game, so they
were never in that position. But I'd be very curious
to see if they were ten and two and went
to the Big ten and got hammered, if they would
still get in when you've got another ten and two
Notre Dame behind them one spot. What do you think
would happen? Then? I think Notre Dame would get in
in that scenario, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately the quitting Irish they just have more cachet, They
have more they have more power. You know, people were
asking me like, how is it that they backdoored that deal?
How is it that they got that deal done with
the committee? Has anyone asked you that question? We were
ideating a little bit on how they got the exemption,
the the the you know, the ticket punched essentially if
they're in the top twelve.
Speaker 1: Do you have a theory on a great question? I mean,
I don't think you have to theorize much. I just
think that when you know, look, at the end of
the day, this playoff is the TV show. There is
an entity that owns the college football playoffs, and it
is a for profit event, And would you have rather
had if you were running that tournament, Notre Dame or
James Madison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, James Madison would have been bounced because contractually they
have to. They had to at the time put in
what was it, the top six conference, highest rated conference
champions at that time, so like they were.
Speaker 1: Obligating at the time. Yeah, at the time, there was
nothing that can be done, but that's no longer the
current circumstance.
Speaker 4: Yea, if that we're going to play, if that were.
Speaker 1: To play out now, Notre Dame's getting in, And I
don't think you have to look any further than the
entity putting on the tournament saying how do we get
the most how do we get the most ROI And
unfortunately James Madison, they competed against Oregon, but it wasn't
that close of a game. I hate to admit this,
but Notre Dame would have put up a better fight
against Oregon then James Madison. And so I think the
thinking is, how do we make the best product possible
for a tournament? And I'd be shocked if thor d
Ain't even had to fight that hard to get that
exemption you want them in. If they're in the top
twelve because they're a huge draw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this.
Speaker 3: You know, let's turn it back to gratitude here, b
YU football is in the Glory era, right, this is
in you know what I mean, it's crazy to me.
I was looking at the winning as eras in BYU
football history and you look at seventy nine to eighty
five Glory Days, right, that's the.
Speaker 2: True glory Yeah. But the second.
Speaker 3: Winning era up until you know, the current one was
essentially six to twenty eleven. You had double digit wins
every season minus one. Kind of interesting, like, you know,
kind of the middle of it all in from six
to twenty eleven. And now you have from twenty twenty
to two thousand and twenty five, you got eleven wins,
you have ten wins, you have eight, you got five,
you got eleven, you got twelve. This is a Glory
Days once again. Like it's pretty crazy to see, you know,
and it kind of realized that you're a part of
the Glory Days once again.
Speaker 1: Right, You're absolutely right, Like this is a this is
an amazing era of THEU football. To retain Kilane, to
retain these players, to retain a lot of the staff.
There is so much to be excited about, and they
could very well win the Big Twelve next year. And
if they go to the playoffs, and we'll celebrate and
we'll root on the team and it will be phenomenal.
Speaker 4: It's just I think it's just unfortunate that it feels.
Speaker 1: Like that's what it has to be for Rea football
and for a lot of other schools. But to bring
it back to gratitude, to your point, then the fact
that they're in this position so quickly in the Big
Twelve is a testament to Kilane, It's a testament to
President Reese.
Speaker 4: It's a testament to what.
Speaker 1: Tom Holmo did and now Brian Santiago, that they have
been able to galvanize this alumni base to support this
program led by Flannie, and that you're in a place
you're in you're in position to be in position, and
there's a lot of schools that you're not in position
to compete to even have an opportunity, and that is.
Speaker 4: A beautiful, beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: So I love Boa football and I think I think
the sky is the limit for Bou football. But it's
gonna require a Big Twelve championship to break into the playoff.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, Matt Baya Monte Ladies and gentlemen, Matt, best way
to support you, what you do, how you do it.
Thank you for joining us today for a Cougar beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen in to UH football season's over with now
basketball pre game Uh, listen to Greg Mark Durant La
Cole and then pretty soon I'll be heading out with
with men's baseball and doing play by play for BOU Radio.
So that's coming up in mid February. So if you
like baseball, tune on end and all. I'll take you
along in non conference play.
Speaker 3: Were you I imagine you're at the first pitch dinner,
what would happen there?
Speaker 2: Give us a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There was just great recognition of former Cougars that
have made it to the big leagues. Schneeman with the Guardians.
His story is incredible and it's it's truly actually remarkable
that Coach Pratt and this baseball staff had so many
players during his time as an assistant coach and a
head coach getting them in a position get to play
professional baseball. So I think just a celebration of what
the program has done to put guys into the league
and look it's it's gonna be a really exciting team.
They returned so.
Speaker 4: Much offensive production.
Speaker 1: They made a late push last year to get into
the Big twelve Championship down in Arlington, Texas.
Speaker 4: I know they didn't make it a championship game.
Speaker 1: They had a nice little run there as the last
team in to the tournament. And you bring back so
much production. They have a new pitching coach. Probably need
to see some improvement there on the mound, but there's
a lot of excitement for this for this baseball season
that they can build upon what they did to finish
off last year.
Speaker 3: Love the breakdown, Matt Bayamonte, Ladies and gentlemen. Make sure
you're following him on X and listening to him on
BYU Radio. Thanks so much, Matt. We'll catch up with again.
Speaker 2: Soon, brother, Take care guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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