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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Freddy Show. We got Tim Bentley here, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: and we got hey, look who's here, Henry. I'm welcome
Speaker 2: back the who's the new kid over there? New kid
Speaker 2: in New York? That was New York cold? You say,
Speaker 2: I love it here, but I got to get the
Speaker 2: hell back to school exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you got.
Speaker 4: It was fifty the first day I came and it
Speaker 4: felt like it was ninety.
Speaker 5: And you shut up and flip flops.
Speaker 2: And that's his entire man. That's how. That's how I know.
Speaker 2: I've never seen the word.
Speaker 6: Pan wearing a jacket and a long sleeve shirt and
Speaker 6: I'm for still freezing.
Speaker 2: Andry knows how to be a college student. He's good.
Speaker 2: I heard you at the game the other day. Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think? Pretty good? Got it for a while.
Speaker 2: Foot on the pedals sometimes. Yeah, these guys have to
Speaker 2: do it all the time. Yeah, because you never tournament.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good teams. Yeah, this weekend, we'll
Speaker 2: see how good there are, exactly. I'm surprised. I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: I think I sure said that they're a text text
Speaker 2: like a four point favorite, which is a little shocking
Speaker 2: to me. I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 2: You might want to yeah it's four points okay maybe wow.
Speaker 2: So you know, if I were betting man, wink wink,
Speaker 2: I think I would take the points.
Speaker 5: You absolutely should.
Speaker 6: I mean it's still we talk about this every time.
Speaker 6: It's a nice round, but they still make you a
Speaker 6: little nervous, no question. In the mellow game, you just
Speaker 6: your stomach starts to sink and you're like, oh no,
Speaker 6: and you know they might pull it out, but you know,
Speaker 6: get on a run in the tournament, you might miss.
Speaker 2: It, right. Yeah, And they have yet to make you
Speaker 2: feel confident or comfortable.
Speaker 6: They really don't. You know, it's exciting. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: it's a seven game, is it seven or eight?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 5: I think it's a seven game win Street.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we'll see what happens. We'll talk a
Speaker 2: lot about that game. We're gonna have Matt muleback on
Speaker 2: the other side at the four seventeen hour that get
Speaker 2: his thoughts on what's going on because he's done a
Speaker 2: few games now already with Hugh A and maybe just
Speaker 2: get his college scope of college basketball. Then in the
Speaker 2: first hour. I'm looking forward to this because Steve Lynn
Speaker 2: Steven Yeah, game from the past, right. I saw him
Speaker 2: at McHale Center, and we'll ask you how you know him.
Speaker 2: I saw him at the mchas Center maybe ten days ago.
Speaker 2: You know, in the concessions, I say, there's Steve talked
Speaker 2: a little about stuff. I says, we miss missed those commercials,
Speaker 2: you know with Bill.
Speaker 5: Frieder, and now I'd love to talk about that.
Speaker 2: And you know, people our age know exactly what we're
Speaker 2: talking about. Uh, those good old day TV commercials where
Speaker 2: Luke was the was the good guy and Frieda was
Speaker 2: the bad guy.
Speaker 5: I know, they're so creative, you know, the talent.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: I'm curious, you know, to hear his when when he
Speaker 6: knew that he had the right chemistry between those two
Speaker 6: and how he made it happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk to him how that did happen?
Speaker 2: Because it takes a creative mind to kind of pull
Speaker 2: that thing together. You're in the business where you have
Speaker 2: to kind of have creative minds, writers, producers and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: That'll be some great insight.
Speaker 6: And the last couple of times I've been here, we've
Speaker 6: been talking about, you know, kind of the history of
Speaker 6: the Wildcats and this is this is a fun part
Speaker 6: of that which did did this year. First time this
Speaker 6: week though, right, first time this week. But last week
Speaker 6: we talked about, you know, the coaching thing. We talked
Speaker 6: with Bob Elliott and you and you had him back on.
Speaker 6: We listened to you and you talked to him about
Speaker 6: doctor j.
Speaker 2: And then another guy tweeted, well, Dudlston tweeted, we had
Speaker 2: something about oh, well, Bert Williams, you know Bert from
Speaker 2: Williams and Associates. I do, Yeah, Yeah, he had some
Speaker 2: good stuff about you know, the Three Blind mice Y. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I did listen to him, and I love that and
Speaker 6: and I remember that I just I cracked up. So
Speaker 6: I think, you know, you and I the last time
Speaker 6: I was here, we were talking about the history and
Speaker 6: just the culture of the place and the loyalty of
Speaker 6: the fans, and it's it's not only just the player
Speaker 6: sometimes but it's the it's the support bard of people
Speaker 6: like Steven Berg.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: One of the things that we talked about this week
Speaker 2: and off the air and on the air is bringing
Speaker 2: the uh bringing the who was that time you were
Speaker 2: the game?
Speaker 5: Oh man? That last season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's last season. Okay. And I'll ask Kennry this too,
Speaker 2: because uh part of it. And I got a text
Speaker 2: that it was pretty pretty biting from a fan from
Speaker 2: inside the macale saying that the game experience is horrible.
Speaker 2: It's not lively, it's it's old, it's worn. And I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh,
Speaker 2: and that needs to change. You know, we're halfway through
Speaker 2: the year. Uh, it may be too late this year,
Speaker 2: but you've got to start, you know, freshening it up
Speaker 2: a bit, because it's the same old bit from years.
Speaker 6: Right it was, and it's you know, you know, how
Speaker 6: long did the ou man you know do that? And
Speaker 6: it was great because it was from the eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I was doing that up until until you couldn't and.
Speaker 2: He couldn't and he hadn't done it in a long time. Uh.
Speaker 2: And now we have you know, Phyllis or what's what
Speaker 2: her name is. She's dancing, but you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm with you. I think that there's an
Speaker 6: opportunity to freshen up. You know, I'm not the person
Speaker 6: to do that because when you say, oh, my back resembles.
Speaker 2: That, well, you resemble a lot other people in the stadium,
Speaker 2: that's true. And that's the you guys yell, I mean hey,
Speaker 2: and and everybody wants to move the students on the
Speaker 2: side and blah blah bl be better cheers. Okay, sure
Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen because you need you need to
Speaker 2: sell those seats and the kids aren't guaranteed to go
Speaker 2: show up in those seats. Henry, do you how do
Speaker 2: you feel about the I know you came back for
Speaker 2: this one game, and the students were there and not there.
Speaker 2: They'll be there for Iowa State, but don't you think
Speaker 2: it needs to be more exciting than what it is?
Speaker 2: A little?
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you guys would know better because you've
Speaker 4: been going to the games for a while. But I
Speaker 4: feel like in my four years, I feel like it's
Speaker 4: kind of stayed the same. I think this year might
Speaker 4: be a little better just because of the conference change
Speaker 4: to new teams and.
Speaker 2: And you were there for like U C L A.
Speaker 2: And you know, when it gets to the big games,
Speaker 2: it's it's okay, it's okay. It's not it's the right word,
Speaker 2: because it's not great, but it's okay. And you know,
Speaker 2: you guys are spitting them not that this is right.
Speaker 2: And I get on you guys for you know, F
Speaker 2: this and F that to the players and the UCLA guys.
Speaker 2: And that happens everywhere. I mean, no, kids are kids,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna do what they do, but it needs
Speaker 2: to be like more and football. What about football? Have
Speaker 2: you got in football?
Speaker 5: Last season? I went to football game previous.
Speaker 2: Previous, the previous season, and Henry, you go, yeah, those
Speaker 2: are boring.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I agreed, Yeah, I think so. I do
Speaker 4: not think if any time it was ever maybe last
Speaker 4: year like the U c l A.
Speaker 2: Game, whenever on the wind streak in football, in football
Speaker 2: two years ago, but not this past year. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's the same.
Speaker 6: Henry, when you when you go to the football game,
Speaker 6: what time do you and your your buddies go.
Speaker 4: You probably get there like thirty minutes before the game.
Speaker 5: Thirty minutes before the game.
Speaker 6: So you're not you're not tailgating or anything like that
Speaker 6: or making sure, you're down there for the big you know,
Speaker 6: getting excited to get everybody, I'll riled up or anything
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 2: The till gets are okay. I think it's the stadium atmosphere, right,
Speaker 2: the speakers suck, right, you know we've all determined that
Speaker 2: that's true. And then the same songs and the same routines.
Speaker 2: And I'm not being mean to be mean, and that's
Speaker 2: what people are telling me.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, players are now seeing a different atmosphere,
Speaker 6: different different UH facilities, and so maybe they'll pick something up.
Speaker 6: I know when I've traveled around and you you go
Speaker 6: to U before we were in the Big twelve. You know,
Speaker 6: I go to games, I go to football games. You're like,
Speaker 6: holy smokes, you know the atmosphere. It's exciting, truly because
Speaker 6: it's different, but it was I think there's an opportunity
Speaker 6: to freshen it up, get some people excited.
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: It's not bad, but it's you know, yeah, but it's
Speaker 6: not good changes.
Speaker 2: It's like when you go to UH. It's funny, you
Speaker 2: go to a pizza place. I just like it. It
Speaker 2: wasn't bad. What the hell does that tell me? It
Speaker 2: doesn't tell me anything. It wasn't any good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When you I was, how
Speaker 2: was the mac n cheese? And it wasn't bad? What
Speaker 2: the hell was that mean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: I have to say I wouldn't seek it out. I mean,
Speaker 6: but it was okay, I wouldn't. I don't know if
Speaker 6: i'll come back.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, And that's the problem with u a
Speaker 2: football and sometimes that I don't know if I don't
Speaker 2: know if I went okay, I did it and done it.
Speaker 2: I wanted it.
Speaker 5: No, I'll get it. I'll get this, I'll get some ticket.
Speaker 5: What's take a call?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe someone talk about this.
Speaker 6: Maybe somebody has an idea. Yeah, I had a freshen
Speaker 6: up to it's a new man.
Speaker 2: You know you're on the air nine the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 3: This is Brian.
Speaker 7: How's it going, Bryan?
Speaker 2: Did you take us Yester for the holidays or something?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 7: I was, I was out of town for a while
Speaker 7: and did that stuff, and uh, yeah I haven't been around.
Speaker 2: Tell me what's your solution? You have a solution for us?
Speaker 7: Uh? Maybe we need to get better teams in here.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm I'm sorry, but back in back in
Speaker 7: the eighties and nineties, you know, Yeah, we had decent
Speaker 7: preseason schedules. Yeah, you know, I mean it's it's hard.
Speaker 7: It's hard to get except about Central Michigan, yeah, or
Speaker 7: or some southeast North Dakota state, whatever hell it is.
Speaker 2: You know, are you talking both sports, football and basketball?
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, well, you know, football is a lot different
Speaker 7: because it's really this is not a football school. You know.
Speaker 7: Even when we were doing well last year in twenty
Speaker 7: three not twenty four, we still didn't get to sell
Speaker 7: out crowds and we were winning games. Yeah, but basketball,
Speaker 7: basketball is a whole different animal, I think, because you know,
Speaker 7: they if we had decent teams. I mean, the Duke
Speaker 7: game was great to watch. I mean that we lost,
Speaker 7: but the fans were really into the game, even though
Speaker 7: it was a late game. I mean, the fans were
Speaker 7: really into it, you know, but that was Duke, you know,
Speaker 7: and it wasn't too bad. I didn't think the fans
Speaker 7: were that bad at the Baylor game, of course, but
Speaker 7: having the nine o'clock game didn't didn't really help, you know,
Speaker 7: during the middle of the week. But you know, us,
Speaker 7: I don't know if all the students were back by then,
Speaker 7: I'm not too sure. The student section was more full
Speaker 7: than it was the game before on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're.
Speaker 7: We need to get better teams in here in the preseason,
Speaker 7: you know, to get people hyped up. I mean, okay,
Speaker 7: so we lost four or five games in the pre
Speaker 7: in the pre conference schedule, but all those games were
Speaker 7: either you know, they were out of town, you know,
Speaker 7: I know, the one was in Phoenix and had a
Speaker 7: pretty good turnout, you know, not that not great, but
Speaker 7: it wasn't that bad. But they still they need needed
Speaker 7: to pick up the schedule and have you know, and
Speaker 7: I know it's harder because a lot of teams don't
Speaker 7: want to do a home and home and need you
Speaker 7: got to worry about what TV, how much money they
Speaker 7: want to pay.
Speaker 2: You on TV. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I
Speaker 2: agree with you.
Speaker 6: Do you think do you think that we missed out
Speaker 6: on the preseason hype? Do you miss any of that
Speaker 6: stuff that they used to do?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: Very much?
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 6: I mean do you think if we brought that back?
Speaker 6: I mean, let's if we get the fans excited early on.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the fans that get excited if we
Speaker 7: had a decent preseason schedule. Yeah, you know. And but
Speaker 7: but you know, I don't I watch, you know, I
Speaker 7: watch a lot of basketball on TV, and you watch,
Speaker 7: you know, Gonzaga plays a lot of home games against
Speaker 7: decent teams, you know, in a home and home you know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and you know what why can't we You know.
Speaker 2: Well, Bry before the season started, and I said this,
Speaker 2: if you had season tickets, great because they'll pass. You
Speaker 2: had season tickets. The schedule sucked in Shawn's time and
Speaker 2: in Tommy's early times. But now you had these guys
Speaker 2: coming in right shirt here, But here's the equalizer to that.
Speaker 2: You had tickets, But now they're getting the games at
Speaker 2: eight thirty nine o'clock. So that kind of trumps that.
Speaker 2: Trump's the schedule, right, it.
Speaker 7: Does, you know. And unfortunately, well, one other thing I
Speaker 7: was surprised to see at the game the other night,
Speaker 7: at nine o'clock game, that a lot of the older
Speaker 7: fans did not leave with five minutes to go in
Speaker 7: the game. They were still there.
Speaker 2: Toward the end, right, No, because that's what the rally,
Speaker 2: that's what the rallies. Hey, Mildred, let's not go yet,
Speaker 2: because it could be you could get close here, right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: And I was really surprised to see that because usually
Speaker 7: with five minutes to go in the game, that that
Speaker 7: place is half empty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta get to the parking.
Speaker 7: All on the bottom section.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, so it's not there's almost fault that they
Speaker 2: screwed him with the times. And that's what they've done, right,
Speaker 2: that purposely Just what it is.
Speaker 6: That's what it is. That's the Big twelve. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's I mean, they've always played on those lakes.
Speaker 2: Just what You're gonna have to get used to it. Uh,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. When I
Speaker 2: was stayed on Monday next Monday.
Speaker 7: Right, you know, that's that's the eight thirty one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Isn't there one more nine o'clock game after that?
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a there's a there's at least another one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, And and it's hard, you know,
Speaker 7: like you got a caller yesterday who called about, you know,
Speaker 7: going to the game, but he can't take his kids.
Speaker 7: Yeah it's too late, right, and you know, and luckily,
Speaker 7: you know, all my kids are all growing up and
Speaker 7: I'm retired, don't to worry about getting up early in
Speaker 7: the morning. But you know, I mean, I can understand
Speaker 7: where you know, younger families they can't go, so it's
Speaker 7: really kind of hard to identify with this.
Speaker 2: Team, right. No, there's a lot of roadblocks or obstacles
Speaker 2: to figure out what to do.
Speaker 7: But like you said, we better get used to it's
Speaker 7: going to happen, and it's going to happen more in football,
Speaker 7: and it's going to happen in basketball, right right.
Speaker 2: Okay, Brian, thanks for going to go to you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks a bunch, so welcome back. We'll come back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's three to this. Let's take the break. Now, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk to Steve Lynn here on the other side,
Speaker 2: kind of going back some funny stories or you know
Speaker 2: whatever's kind of stories with Luton and Bill and how
Speaker 2: that all came about.
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Speaker 1: I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Want
Speaker 1: to take part in the show? Call up? Steve now
Speaker 1: went five two oh four, one seventy four.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rovera. You're Tim Bentley.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, Now on the fun we have Steve lynnon big time.
Speaker 2: You a athletics supporter as well as marketer advertising guy.
Speaker 16: Steve.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great, Steve, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good to see you not long ago
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, you need to come on the show.
Speaker 2: Let's reminisce a little from the good old days.
Speaker 16: Sure, happy to do that. There were plenty of good
Speaker 16: old days.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. What are the things that you were
Speaker 2: behind and were fronts at center with? Were the old
Speaker 2: Ludelsen Frieder commercials. I have Tim Bentley here too, who
Speaker 2: knows much about that too. He's a marketing guy.
Speaker 3: Steve. How are you? Steve?
Speaker 6: And I am Steve and I know each other from
Speaker 6: years ago. I worked for the WB I worked with
Speaker 6: ron Berg, you remember that name, and then Anne Courtney
Speaker 6: for a long long time. I think she worked for you,
Speaker 6: and and Courtney was our advertising agency with Michael Beverly. So, yeah, Steve,
Speaker 6: I heard you're coming on today. I was excited to
Speaker 6: say hi, do you so?
Speaker 3: Yes, Thanks, Sam, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So let's go back and we'll talk real quick with
Speaker 2: some of the things that we talked about briefly on
Speaker 2: McHale Center. How did they come about?
Speaker 16: Well, the agency that I had, Nortonsenlan Advertising, had a
Speaker 16: contract with the university. And when this is back in
Speaker 16: the nineties, and what happens is it happened then was
Speaker 16: the university, as part of the coaches contract for football, basketball,
Speaker 16: and baseball, actually built into the contract a certain amount
Speaker 16: of compensation for the coaches and prepaid them and then
Speaker 16: asked us as an agency to go out and market
Speaker 16: the coaches in having them do advertising and public appearances
Speaker 16: and so on to make up for the university money
Speaker 16: that they they've advanced.
Speaker 3: If you will, to the coaches.
Speaker 16: So I had I had lout Olsen, I had Dick Tomy,
Speaker 16: and I had Jerry Kendall essentially as clients, and because
Speaker 16: of the money that the university had already put into
Speaker 16: Lut's contract, which was substantial six figures, a lot of
Speaker 16: six figures, we needed to do something that was, you know,
Speaker 16: not just a local waffle shop or a local car
Speaker 16: dealer or whatever. It needed to be either statewide or national.
Speaker 16: So in talking to Lute, he and Bill Frieder had
Speaker 16: played against each other in the Big Ten when when
Speaker 16: Bill was at Michigan and Louke was at Iowa and Uh,
Speaker 16: I said, Luke, are you friendly with Bill? Would you
Speaker 16: do something with Bill? And he said, sure, we get along.
Speaker 16: Our families get along or our wives get along.
Speaker 3: And I said great.
Speaker 16: So I called Bill, and Bill acteds ex as his own.
Speaker 3: Agent, as you might imagine if he does, he doesn't
Speaker 3: have anybody worked for him.
Speaker 16: His offices in the back of his car, in his trunk,
Speaker 16: and I presented him with a notion to do something
Speaker 16: with Luke. He said sure, absolutely. So I made a
Speaker 16: call to then Valley Bank. Because Valley Bank had been
Speaker 16: using Gene Stallings, the old Cardinals coach in their advertising,
Speaker 16: so I knew that they were used to having sports
Speaker 16: personalities do advertising for them. And I called up the
Speaker 16: marketing director for Valley and said, listen, I've got the
Speaker 16: two major basketball coaches in the state. One looks like
Speaker 16: he just stepped out of GQ and the other one
Speaker 16: looks like he just stepped out of g Whiz, and
Speaker 16: you can have them both, but I need the answer
Speaker 16: in twenty four hours. And he called back within two
Speaker 16: hours and said we'll take him. So that's how it started.
Speaker 16: And then every summer for the next seven years, through
Speaker 16: two bank changes, Bank Valley Bank went from one from
Speaker 16: Bank One Bank to Bank one to Chase, And over
Speaker 16: seven years, even through those changes, they kept the two
Speaker 16: guys as their commercials. Every summer we'd spend a week
Speaker 16: up in Phoenix and in remote locations making those commercials.
Speaker 16: So the guys would put it on their calendar and
Speaker 16: I would coach Wrangle for a week.
Speaker 3: It was the great week every summer.
Speaker 6: Hey, Steve, when did you I love that connection? When
Speaker 6: did you realize that you had the magic chemistry between
Speaker 6: those two on on screen? When did you when did
Speaker 6: you realize that? Was it the first commercial or was
Speaker 6: it did it take a few a few times?
Speaker 16: No, no, no, actually it was it was the first script.
Speaker 16: When when the way it worked is the bank had
Speaker 16: an advertising agency that did their advertising. I didn't have
Speaker 16: anything to do with the bank's advertising, and so their
Speaker 16: agency would send me scripts for approval to be to
Speaker 16: be shot over the summer.
Speaker 3: And as soon as I read the first script, I said.
Speaker 16: This is going to be something, and so it came
Speaker 16: what it's been, which is really a classic matchup between
Speaker 16: smooth Loot and Bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, total sense. And they did all
Speaker 2: the script writing.
Speaker 16: They did script writing, I did script editing. There's there
Speaker 16: were certain things that we didn't didn't necessarily agree to do.
Speaker 16: Most everything was pretty well completed by the agencies. In fact,
Speaker 16: there were actually two agencies over time, because the bank
Speaker 16: then changed agencies.
Speaker 3: But we had already had.
Speaker 16: So many products in the cannon that had already shown
Speaker 16: on television that the second agency already had a blueprint
Speaker 16: of what needed to happen.
Speaker 3: So the different circumstances that they put together, you know,
Speaker 3: it just basically a.
Speaker 16: Tight guy who who watches every hair on his head
Speaker 16: and another guy who couldn't care less about anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So so it sounds like the scripts you got the
Speaker 6: scripts from the agency, how much le way did you
Speaker 6: have and of the two coaches who would have had
Speaker 6: a career as an actor.
Speaker 2: Well, and did they have to approve it?
Speaker 16: Well, they actually didn't have to approve it. They gave
Speaker 16: me that responsibility. And over the seven years there was
Speaker 16: there was absolutely nothing that they ever came in contact
Speaker 16: with that we hadn't talked about and they didn't go
Speaker 16: for Now, there.
Speaker 3: Was an opportunity I'll tell you in a.
Speaker 16: Minute about about another product that they wanted to perform
Speaker 16: that didn't go so well, But in this instance, the
Speaker 16: coaches really never took the opportunity to review the script's
Speaker 16: word by word and they trusted that I would not
Speaker 16: put them in situations that they weren't comfortable in. Yeah,
Speaker 16: so they they were troopers for the for the seven
Speaker 16: years that we did it. The one that I referred
Speaker 16: to guys, it was about four or five years into
Speaker 16: the seven year contract, the bank wanted to do some
Speaker 16: some additional marketing using the two coaches. So they got
Speaker 16: the idea of doing a calendar and the bank would
Speaker 16: put a calendar together, and so they set up a
Speaker 16: photo shoot still photos. Over a two day period built
Speaker 16: sets for twelve different iconic photos using the two coaches
Speaker 16: in various themes based on you know, New Year's was
Speaker 16: one thing, and Easter was another, at Thanksgiving and Halloween
Speaker 16: and Christmas, all of these different events during the course
Speaker 16: of the year, and we saw the setups for all
Speaker 16: of those twelve photographs and the guys were apparently okay
Speaker 16: with it.
Speaker 3: But by the second setup of the.
Speaker 16: Halloween poster, the Halloween shoot, Luke came to me off
Speaker 16: set and said, I can't do this. And if you
Speaker 16: can imagine, Luke dressing in any sort of a costume
Speaker 16: was something that he was not particularly comfortable with, right,
Speaker 16: and so uh this was this this particular one happened
Speaker 16: to have Bill dressed as a a skeleton for Halloween,
Speaker 16: and Luke was a pirate, uh, complete with a parrot
Speaker 16: on his shoulder and a big swashbuckle hat and so on,
Speaker 16: and he basically said, I'm done, I can't do it, so.
Speaker 5: Yes all the way, So Steve, well, let me, yes,
Speaker 5: go ahead the story.
Speaker 16: I had to go to the bank at that point
Speaker 16: and say, guys, I'm sorry. I know they agreed to
Speaker 16: do it, and I know you set up all this this,
Speaker 16: uh uh, the setups and everything else, and got everybody
Speaker 16: down here. But we're going to have to refund the
Speaker 16: money and and uh and not do the bit and
Speaker 16: and so they were. They were very gracious about it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 16: But Bill went on to do the entire calendar itself
Speaker 16: because he didn't care how he dressed it.
Speaker 2: That's funny. That's why I didn't know that. I had
Speaker 2: never seen that either.
Speaker 6: I hadn't heard that who was the had the more
Speaker 6: natural acting ability in your estimation?
Speaker 16: Oh, Bill at Bill absolutely. And the other thing about Bill,
Speaker 16: and I don't think many people knew this Bill was
Speaker 16: actually a savant with numbers.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's huge.
Speaker 16: When Bill was an assistant coach at Michigan before he
Speaker 16: took over the program, and let's say he was going
Speaker 16: to to recruit a kid in let's say Texas, he
Speaker 16: would fly from ann Arbor to Vegas, get off the plane,
Speaker 16: go to a casino, count a six deck shoe for
Speaker 16: a couple of hours, make fifteen twenty grand, and go
Speaker 16: to Texas and then hit Vegas on the way back
Speaker 16: to the point where at some point he was persona
Speaker 16: non grad at most of the most of the hotels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you're you're very You know him, because
Speaker 2: that's exactly what he was. Let me tell you a
Speaker 2: quick Bill story Arizona in Oregon, would travel an issue,
Speaker 2: travel together obviously traveling partners, or stay at the same
Speaker 2: hold tell in Oregon. And one time Bill's the room
Speaker 2: was broken into and they stole his wallet, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: And this could have been somewhere else too, though I
Speaker 2: think it happened. He wanted his wallet back, and the
Speaker 2: guy geist returned. He says, well, you might want to
Speaker 2: keep it because you spend less than my wife does.
Speaker 15: Well.
Speaker 16: Interesting, interestingly, think about Bill. I mean Bill's daughter was
Speaker 16: into show jumping, so he was supporting not only a
Speaker 16: wonderful wife, but a daughter who had horses and a
Speaker 16: show jumping activity, and so he had plenty of things
Speaker 16: to spend money on.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 16: The one Steve that I mentioned to you, I think
Speaker 16: I mentioned to you when we spoke, to show you
Speaker 16: the difference between the two of them. There was one
Speaker 16: commercial that we did where they both agreed to do
Speaker 16: the same activity, but do it in their own way.
Speaker 16: So we shot We shot at the Biltmore in Phoenix,
Speaker 16: and we shot Luke having lunch at.
Speaker 5: The Biltmore in the in the dining room, and then.
Speaker 16: We shot Bill having lunch at a hot dog stand
Speaker 16: out in the desert someone and and then we had
Speaker 16: Luke teeing off at the golf course at the Biltmore.
Speaker 16: And then we had Bill at a pitching putt or
Speaker 16: at a you know, a putt putt golf course going
Speaker 16: through the windmill and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So the other one is Luke as a haircut.
Speaker 16: Well, Luke was in the salon at the at the
Speaker 16: Biltmore getting his haircut and.
Speaker 2: Bill used a flowby.
Speaker 16: Remember the flow be that you attached to your vacuum
Speaker 16: cleaner and it cuts your hair. And so Bill liked
Speaker 16: that a lot, so he kept the flow by.
Speaker 3: From the shoot. I think he probably used it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, perks, baby, man, you're your big time actor, you
Speaker 6: get perks.
Speaker 2: So just real quick, you mentioned two of them. I
Speaker 2: think we realize there were seven seven years of this.
Speaker 2: How many did you actually do? And which would have
Speaker 2: been your favorite? Because I have I have mine.
Speaker 16: Oh gosh, you know, it's like children. I mean, there's
Speaker 16: something I liked more than others we did. We shot
Speaker 16: probably about three to five every summer, so there were
Speaker 16: probably thirty of these or more.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and on YouTube, Yeah, they would use them.
Speaker 16: You know, periodically during the year, and and and run
Speaker 16: them out over the course of the year. The ones
Speaker 16: that I remember the most, and and there were some
Speaker 16: that were more or less funny, but the Christmas one
Speaker 16: where Luke goes to the store.
Speaker 2: To buy things that's mine, that's mine, and.
Speaker 16: And the server waits on him, the clerk, the clounter,
Speaker 16: the clerk, and then and then Frieder comes up with
Speaker 16: his bank card and she says, oh, mister Fritter y
Speaker 16: and and the look on his face was just perfect,
Speaker 16: right though.
Speaker 2: That was my favorite as well, because it happened to him.
Speaker 2: It happened to him at Boise And I'll explain the
Speaker 2: story later, but go.
Speaker 6: Ahead, no, no, I I'm just you know, what, what fun
Speaker 6: and what leeway you had with them. You know, we'll
Speaker 6: continue talking about these great stories. But what's your sense
Speaker 6: on these coaches now?
Speaker 5: I mean, could you do that the.
Speaker 6: Same way with with Tommy and and uh Bobby, Bobby
Speaker 6: up there? I mean, could you have the same amount
Speaker 6: of fine could you do the same campaign?
Speaker 16: I think, you know, I think, given given the right
Speaker 16: script and given the ability of the coaches to adapt
Speaker 16: to the circumstance, I think it could be interesting now.
Speaker 16: I mean, given that Bobby has a huge personality, I
Speaker 16: would say Tommy is more reserved. But it's not quite
Speaker 16: the same thing because there are two more modern coaches
Speaker 16: in events. They don't dress up the way lut used to.
Speaker 16: You never saw lut in a in a anything but
Speaker 16: a coat and tie at the games. Bill, you know,
Speaker 16: you might have had a tie on, but it was
Speaker 16: always untucked around his neck and hanging from the waist
Speaker 16: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I can see Bobby slapping the floor then hurting his back.
Speaker 2: You know, the discussion would have to be very tight
Speaker 2: because they have to be approved by both sides. You
Speaker 2: know you're not making me look good. I'm sure you
Speaker 2: developed a nice friendship with them too, because you were
Speaker 2: doing this for them and you spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time with him.
Speaker 16: I did, I did, and and when when Bill, I
Speaker 16: don't know whether he still does color commentator comments terry
Speaker 16: for anybody, but when he used to come to to
Speaker 16: McHale for games, when he was doing color on the
Speaker 16: on the radio and television shows, I would always go
Speaker 16: down and say hello to him and chat briefly. Uh,
Speaker 16: because we did maintain that and you know, loud of course.
Speaker 16: I mean he went through a number of different circumstances
Speaker 16: late in life when he he was not well and
Speaker 16: and and so on, and he always remembered being always
Speaker 16: was very kind and and that sort of thing. But
Speaker 16: but yeah, it was it was a pleasure, and it
Speaker 16: was I don't know, And you know, I was in
Speaker 16: the advertise business on the agency side for sixteen years
Speaker 16: and I did a lot of things that I'm quite
Speaker 16: happy about. I think this, this group of commercials is
Speaker 16: probably the best I ever did.
Speaker 2: So when we Mike Fedder and I did the Lutosen
Speaker 2: camp in the first years and Loot was still around
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen eighteen, we played those, we played those commercials
Speaker 2: because some of the people had not seen them yet.
Speaker 2: You know, they're like you said that, Tim, They're on YouTube.
Speaker 2: So you know, we had the airport, you know, they
Speaker 2: got to get to a game quickly, and you know,
Speaker 2: Freder was the pilot and some and some of those
Speaker 2: ones and some fast fantastic ones. But you you did
Speaker 2: about twenty one of them or thirty thirty of them,
Speaker 2: holy almost.
Speaker 3: Almost thirty of them.
Speaker 16: Some of them actually, I don't think one of.
Speaker 3: Them ever aired. In two son it might have aired
Speaker 3: in Phoenix.
Speaker 16: There was one day where we shot up at a
Speaker 16: ghost town outside of Phoenix, north of Phoenix, and the
Speaker 16: premise was that Bill was already ran out of gas
Speaker 16: and had to try to get a credit card you somewhere,
Speaker 16: But it was it was a ghost town's circumstance, and
Speaker 16: it was I don't think it ever ran statewide. But
Speaker 16: the reason I remember that particular shot was I took
Speaker 16: the coaches up there. They would drive with me to
Speaker 16: the shoot wherever it was, so Luke and I would
Speaker 16: stay at a hotel and then we'd go pick up
Speaker 16: Bill at his house and drive where we were going
Speaker 16: to go. Well, that day I picked him both up
Speaker 16: and we were on our way up to up to
Speaker 16: the shoote which was up of I seventeen on the
Speaker 16: way to Flag Stab, were on the way to Prescott
Speaker 16: and UH and we get off and all the way
Speaker 16: up there, the two guys are telling Bob Knight stories,
Speaker 16: one of.
Speaker 3: Them because they both and so one of them to say, well,
Speaker 3: I really.
Speaker 16: Ticked him off by doing X did something, and then oh,
Speaker 16: the other one would top that and say well I
Speaker 16: did this, and back and forth, and unfortunately I did
Speaker 16: not have a recorder going and I was trying to
Speaker 16: drive the car and had I had something to record
Speaker 16: that I would have a first class book.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Steve, it's hilarious.
Speaker 5: I know you have. You have a lot of leadership
Speaker 5: that you do here in our community.
Speaker 6: I'm just curious your view on the state of sports
Speaker 6: in this in PMA County and city of Tucson. What's
Speaker 6: your take from thirty years ago, forty years ago to today.
Speaker 16: Well, the thing that troubles me quite honestly, I'm not
Speaker 16: a big fan of NIL. I just I was all
Speaker 16: in favor of amateur sports. Now, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 16: we shouldn't have treated college athletes differently than we did,
Speaker 16: and they deserve certainly more support than they were.
Speaker 3: Given early on.
Speaker 16: But what we've got now is essentially minor leagues, and
Speaker 16: with the with the transfer portal, and not only for players,
Speaker 16: but for coaches, UH and and uh and the NIL.
Speaker 16: I mean, I heard the other day that we had
Speaker 16: recruited somewhere at the university, had recruited.
Speaker 3: A volleyball player from San Diego.
Speaker 16: Who in high school was already making six figures. So
Speaker 16: I just think it's it's it's a different world in
Speaker 16: many ways, but it really is really tough on the coaches.
Speaker 16: Head coaches now they don't even know who they're gonna
Speaker 16: have next year. Never mind that people might go pro
Speaker 16: or get hurt or whatever. But I mean, anybody on
Speaker 16: a roster can be somewhere else, and they apparently go
Speaker 16: in that regard. So you you've got a whole new
Speaker 16: deck of cards every year that you have to try
Speaker 16: to make a playing hand out of.
Speaker 3: And I just think the fans suffer for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. They don't get to know them. You know,
Speaker 2: they're like the athletes. Rent a player, rent a player.
Speaker 2: Rent Yeah, Steve not good for school spirit, No, no, no, no, Steve.
Speaker 2: Thanks a bunch was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: I was talking to his tee.
Speaker 3: If you're welcome, guys, good DOCU with you.
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Speaker 2: On the Ball. Hey, welcome back to myne in the
Speaker 2: Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve vert
Speaker 2: In with Tim Bentley.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Hello. Henry's back from New York in school helping us
Speaker 2: on the board. Thank you, Henry. A good conversation with Steve.
Speaker 2: Anybody want to call remember their best commercials. There's been
Speaker 2: so many. Thirty I can't remember seeing thirty, but there
Speaker 2: were some funny ones.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I was listening to Tim talk and you know, Bob
Speaker 6: Youker just died. And Bob Buker really had this persona
Speaker 6: of you know, he was he was a you know,
Speaker 6: a decent athlete, played pro baseball, but he really parlayed
Speaker 6: his kind of everyman yeah uh persona into this career.
Speaker 5: And Bill Frieder reminds.
Speaker 7: Me of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very much.
Speaker 5: So has that.
Speaker 6: You know, he was very talented and smart and a
Speaker 6: great coach, and I forgot about his gambling endeavors. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but you know he kind of had that same you know,
Speaker 6: so you know.
Speaker 2: No question, it's funny, You're you're exactly right. I had
Speaker 2: Bill On maybe eighteen months ago or whatever it was, say,
Speaker 2: doing the same thing living in San Diego, Delmore. He's
Speaker 2: the money management and guy plays the stocks and kind
Speaker 2: of loves numbers. Steve would pay them perfectly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Steve, Steve had one of the most prominent,
Speaker 6: biggest advertising agencies in Tucson when he was the president,
Speaker 6: Steve Lynn and Jeff Nortonson Nortonson Lynn he mentioned it
Speaker 6: and had all the big accounts, you know, really did
Speaker 6: a lot of creative work.
Speaker 2: Did the others branch off because you know a bunch
Speaker 2: of those people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, many of them we mentioned n Courtney and then
Speaker 6: others they you know, they're you know, you talk about
Speaker 6: a coaching family tree, there's an advertising family tree, and
Speaker 6: Steve Lynn is at the head of one of the branches.
Speaker 2: He's a grandfather or a.
Speaker 6: Grandfather of any many people that did some time there,
Speaker 6: learned a lot and then started their own very successful
Speaker 6: advertising Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay again if anybody wants to call five two, four, one,
Speaker 2: six forty, what was your favorite commercial? I wanted to
Speaker 2: also go. Where was I going to go with this? Oh,
Speaker 2: we're talking about in Tucson. Being in Tucson, I think
Speaker 2: off the year, how how we much we enjoy and
Speaker 2: then we're coming up with a few things what makes
Speaker 2: Tucson Tucson get the rodeo here in next month? We
Speaker 2: have the golf tournament coming in late February March.
Speaker 5: The GEM Show starts next.
Speaker 2: Week, right, Gem Show, Gym Show and on sports, but yes,
Speaker 2: and then those sports.
Speaker 5: And then we have the soccer tournament that fort Los Soccer.
Speaker 2: Starts this weekend. Then there's a big volleyball tournament this
Speaker 2: weekend too. I heard that on the radio. U so
Speaker 2: people from all over the country and Southwestern coming.
Speaker 6: So you know, we were talking about, you know, when
Speaker 6: when baseball and you know, minor league baseball finally was
Speaker 6: gone and we have keno. You know, some very smart people,
Speaker 6: you know pivoted, how can we maximize these of these
Speaker 6: fields and these facilities and and you know, let's bring people.
Speaker 5: You know, there's the World Baseball Classic, and I that.
Speaker 2: That's the other one.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna mention, you know that that come
Speaker 6: to Tucson and and those those visit to some people.
Speaker 6: Hustle trying to get people to to come to Tucson
Speaker 6: and sports is a great way to do that.
Speaker 2: And they're still still trying to build some more stuff
Speaker 2: out there at Kino and beyond the Mosaic Place.
Speaker 6: Or what Mosaic is coming. I think there's about nine
Speaker 6: thousand pickleball courts coming.
Speaker 2: See Tommy he talks about all the time. Just go
Speaker 2: to his place. Yeah, yeah, and they're they're they're all
Speaker 2: over the place, and you know, I want to do that,
Speaker 2: except for my achilles heel doesn't want me to.
Speaker 6: My knees just would gripe at me. My knees are
Speaker 6: yelling at me right now. Think about playing pick a ball?
Speaker 2: What was your favorite commercial?
Speaker 5: I like the.
Speaker 6: One was was Bill Friederd dressed as an elf and
Speaker 6: have maybe remember that. And my favorite memory is is
Speaker 6: he was always the name was wrong. Yeah, and you
Speaker 6: know he's always not denied a credit card, but he
Speaker 6: just like he Yeah for some like who is this guy?
Speaker 6: Ludelson was so smooth, you know him and I knew
Speaker 6: Ludelson in a couple of different ways, and when he
Speaker 6: walked in the room, you knew he was.
Speaker 5: His charisma preceded. I mean he was, he was all
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 2: I say this all the time because when people ask
Speaker 2: me when they're doing stories. He had a regal and
Speaker 2: towering presence, just a just a dude, like you know,
Speaker 2: my friends was coming and we'd go out and then
Speaker 2: he'd show up and whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you forget how tall he was, because he
Speaker 6: was always standing around the six eight, six nine guys
Speaker 6: and then he was six four and.
Speaker 2: He shook his hands.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, huge, huge hands, and he had big rings
Speaker 6: on after he started, you know, and it just he
Speaker 6: I was at some event he stepped out of a
Speaker 6: limo and I said, I coach, and he's and you know,
Speaker 6: you're just in awe of him.
Speaker 2: His hand would envelope your Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 15: No.
Speaker 2: Another favorite one was the oh I just lost it
Speaker 2: was the airport one. I said, the Flowby one, the
Speaker 2: credit card you know, hello, mister Wilson, coach. God there
Speaker 2: was I just lost it. It'll come to me.
Speaker 6: So I didn't know that they shot those. It makes
Speaker 6: sense that they would shoot them in their off season,
Speaker 6: you know, three or four at a time in one
Speaker 6: location and just pivot. I mean, that's how we make
Speaker 6: TV commercials at TMC IS is we we turn, you know,
Speaker 6: we we're pretty much in one location and we turn
Speaker 6: you know, twenty, you know, ninety degrees one way, then
Speaker 6: we turned ninety degrees the next and so it's a
Speaker 6: different shot each place, and you don't move your camera
Speaker 6: too far right.
Speaker 5: And so I can see that they would do that.
Speaker 2: Here was the other one, because I get he's the
Speaker 2: book this lot time where he's at the barber's and
Speaker 2: the guy says, so, Freda, we're going to make you
Speaker 2: the best looking coach in the state.
Speaker 5: That's right, I mean, what a good sport.
Speaker 6: I know they got paid, and he talked about how
Speaker 6: much money they got paid, but you know, you really
Speaker 6: have to be a good sport on Bill's art to play,
Speaker 6: you know, the slobby guy at.
Speaker 2: The loots and he was laughing all the way to
Speaker 2: the bank.
Speaker 6: Sure he did not care, I'm sure, but you have
Speaker 6: to be really comfortable on yourself. And even said that,
Speaker 6: Lou said, I'm not dressing up like a right, I
Speaker 6: don't do that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't Yeah, yeah, no, makes sense.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And again to me, those were the good old pies
Speaker 2: for stuff and access, And you're right, I would. I
Speaker 2: would when he's when we talked to like I said
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I think who would be the perfect
Speaker 2: for Tommy and Bobby or whomever that to do kind
Speaker 2: of revisit some commercials.
Speaker 6: I think it's you know, we didn't have a chance
Speaker 6: to ask him, you know, but like he did talk
Speaker 6: about the state of sports, but I would also ask him,
Speaker 6: you know, like the state of of advertising and in
Speaker 6: game experience. You know, he's he's a savvy marketer. You know,
Speaker 6: what would he do? You know, I think that it's
Speaker 6: going to take some creative minds like that. You know,
Speaker 6: there was a Snoop dog ball. I mean those people pivoted.
Speaker 6: And then it's an experience around the game. You know,
Speaker 6: you're having a party and that just happens football game, right,
Speaker 6: That's that's it, right, And that's and that's what people do.
Speaker 6: And that's you know you talked about Bill Fader. I
Speaker 6: mean that's he had a he had a party every night.
Speaker 6: There was a baseball game in the middle.
Speaker 2: You know, he said, it's like when you go to hockey. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it happens there's a fight, but you know
Speaker 2: it happened to.
Speaker 5: Be a hockey game broke out yea, yeah, yeah, true.
Speaker 2: True again, anybody want to call. I think we have
Speaker 2: a few more minutes, but four five to four, one, six,
Speaker 2: seventy four forty. Tomorrow's game noon, so early riser. By
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not going to be in a studio Monday.
Speaker 2: It's Martin Luther King Day. So I said, hell with it,
Speaker 2: I'm not coming in even though it's the day of
Speaker 2: the championship game.
Speaker 5: Well, you need to get a pregame for the championship game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing going to do it now, Jay and
Speaker 2: I am not going to make our picks public here today.
Speaker 2: I don't think we didn't talk, but he did take
Speaker 2: the lead over me, which was like a shocking, painful.
Speaker 6: It's like the first time in like seventeen years that
Speaker 6: he's taken the lead over.
Speaker 2: Well, the first is seventeen weeks probably, but he's got
Speaker 2: the lead on me by half a game.
Speaker 6: I was worried that I was going to gut him
Speaker 6: because I was. I was running Minnesota. But your Tampa
Speaker 6: Bay Bucks, they didn't help you out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a Tempa Bayta well, and I would
Speaker 2: have easily won this.
Speaker 5: But day, so are you going to tell us who
Speaker 5: you're picking for the national Game?
Speaker 2: Are you that's easy? Yeah, I'm taking a hostate. Hosting
Speaker 2: might have eaten a half. I think it is. Notre
Speaker 2: Dame could play very well.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't Notre Dame surprised me last time, so you
Speaker 6: never know. I mean, yeah, it'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 6: And you know, I really love you know, especially these kids.
Speaker 6: You know, I coached high school and then you watch kids.
Speaker 6: You know, ninety five ninety nine percent of those kids
Speaker 6: on the field probably aren't going to play pro football. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so this is it, you know, this is their moment,
Speaker 6: and I get chills thinking about that for those kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you start getting paid. Good, good for them.
Speaker 5: But hey, I you know, I hope, I hope you're
Speaker 5: getting paid.
Speaker 6: I know you're getting paid, and I just I hope
Speaker 6: they have some some valuable people or some good people
Speaker 6: behind them giving valuable advice.
Speaker 2: What would you what would you think? I know you
Speaker 2: probably don't know enough about the topic, but what would
Speaker 2: you think people or players like this should be paid
Speaker 2: paid to get paid? You know? One point five one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand thousand.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, so the question is do you get
Speaker 5: paid on uh?
Speaker 3: Is it A?
Speaker 6: Is it A is a uniform salary for the entire team?
Speaker 6: So is it starting five mikes a million?
Speaker 2: That's the whole problem.
Speaker 5: You know, what if I that's if I get.
Speaker 6: Benched and now I'm in the I'm an a player rotation,
Speaker 6: that's a problem.
Speaker 2: And you know, Tim, Tim, if you have some dude
Speaker 2: who's a right guard not getting paid as much as
Speaker 2: left guard and the tackle and then the quarterbacks making
Speaker 2: this because I have to make holes for him to
Speaker 2: run in or to pass over. I don't know. The
Speaker 2: human human element is part of this.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, people talk about how it's the minor league,
Speaker 6: and it's it's you know people, you're gonna have to
Speaker 6: get used to it.
Speaker 5: But there's still eighteen nineteen twenty year old kids.
Speaker 2: You're not Actually my question too how much?
Speaker 5: How much two hundred and fifty thousand dollars each?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 6: And then as you imagined, and then it's incentive based
Speaker 6: if if you know, if we make well you know.
Speaker 2: What you're bringing that done. I'm sorry interrupt, but I
Speaker 2: want to say this. Yeah, I think that's what the
Speaker 2: it's going to be in the ball work for the
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. Sure, it's going to be about two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand.
Speaker 6: And I read today that there's a ruling that Title
Speaker 6: nine is going to have some impact on this.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: So it's the money that's being spent is called student aid.
Speaker 6: And I haven't done a lot of research on it,
Speaker 6: but I did a little reading and it looks like
Speaker 6: there's an initial ruling that Title nine, which is a
Speaker 6: isn't an equality thing that's been around since, you know,
Speaker 6: probably fifty years close to it, might apply to this
Speaker 6: way money. Is that you equal distribution.
Speaker 2: Which would be great for the women's sports.
Speaker 6: And I'm an advocate for that. I think that wow.
Speaker 6: And I'm an advocate for women's sports and then a
Speaker 6: minor sports too. You know, the cross country kids, you know,
Speaker 6: they're they're helping your GPA too, sure, and they're working
Speaker 6: just they're representing university just as hard.
Speaker 5: You know, the football team is outside they have eighty
Speaker 5: five ninety.
Speaker 2: Guys, sure, and they but they do bring in the revenue.
Speaker 5: They sure do. But do they bring in the prestige
Speaker 5: all the time?
Speaker 2: You know, well, no, because if they're not any good,
Speaker 2: they don't, let's go. We gotta go. Hendry giving the nod.
Speaker 2: Henry's giving the nod. He's the boss today. Let's toe
Speaker 2: and come back. You gotta breaking news for us? Yeah.
Speaker 5: Cool,