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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode is a conversation with Jordan from the southeast

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<v Speaker 1>corner of Massachusetts. This is an extremely interesting conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>as it goes along becomes quite evident someone does not

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<v Speaker 1>want it to happen. So please enjoy this conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly is going on in the Plymouth area of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks for listening all I pick the Society. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Jordan today. Jordan's an

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<v Speaker 1>individual from the Plymouth mass area or Massachusetts. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>an Army veteran as well. Jordan, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your service and how are you doing today, sir, Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem, and I'm doing great and got out of work early.

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<v Speaker 2>I planned for this and I can't wait to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very very rare to have individuals from Massachusetts in

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<v Speaker 1>New England on the show. As I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>western mass so I know it is a very tight

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<v Speaker 1>lipped state when it comes to things like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jordan, I want to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the time to share what you've come prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>share today, so feel free to take the floor is yours,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're welcome to take us back to when things

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<v Speaker 1>started happening to you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I worked at a trucking company a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>over five years ago, and one of the forklift operators

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<v Speaker 2>I started hanging out with. He's older than me, he's

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<v Speaker 2>like fifty five now, and we had a big, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you call it hobby together, fishing. So we started

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it and stuff, and he had a little,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bass buggy boat something that just slides

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<v Speaker 2>into the back of a pickup truck with the slow seats.

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<v Speaker 2>And we hadn't talked for a while, we hadn't hung

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<v Speaker 2>out and stuff, and eventually just started fishing. And it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until after I started my other job. So he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever fished down in Plymouth area? I said no,

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<v Speaker 2>not really. I said, I you know, usually go to

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<v Speaker 2>other ponds and stuff, you know, walking distance stuff. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>usually fish from shore there. He goes, well, you can

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<v Speaker 2>go with me, and he said all right. So we

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<v Speaker 2>go out to the pond and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I should mention where the pond.

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<v Speaker 3>Is or not, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I'd never been there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in Plymouth. It was a really long dirt

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<v Speaker 3>road to get down there.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you go down the dirt road comes to

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<v Speaker 2>a fork. If you go left, there's you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ten houses on that side.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the lake.

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<v Speaker 2>The right side of the lake, there's only two mansions

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<v Speaker 2>down the very very very end, like another mile down,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very secluded. So he goes, okay, well we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go there and I'll pick you up at three in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and we'll get down there. You know, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get set up and we should be fishing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by four o'clock. And this was in August of twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, he told me there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>small mouths in there, and you know there's big fish,

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<v Speaker 2>and it should be great time, clean.

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<v Speaker 3>Water, blah blah blah. So he picks me up in.

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<v Speaker 2>His try out of the truck he's got the boat

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and go down the dirt road and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a one lane road around this pond, so you got

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<v Speaker 2>to offload the boat and then you got to go

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<v Speaker 2>park it. And there's a couple of little tiny parking

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<v Speaker 2>spots cut out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's dark it's pitch black. I got a headlamp on.

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<v Speaker 2>He parks the truck, get the boat out and pull

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<v Speaker 2>it on the ground, and he's like, I gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>park the truck.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, all right. So he pulls away.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch him dry and he's probably one hundred feet

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<v Speaker 2>away from me, and I can see the truck and

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<v Speaker 2>he pulls it in one of the spots and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just standing there listening to the bugs, crickets, frogs, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking in the water. The water's perfect, it's

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<v Speaker 2>crystal clear. And a rock flew by my face, like

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<v Speaker 2>probably exercise of a golf ball, and I'm like, that

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<v Speaker 2>was weird, And you know, I don't know what to think.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's walking back towards me and he's got his

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<v Speaker 2>hands in his park. He parks the truck. I see

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<v Speaker 2>the brake lights go off. I see everything go off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's coming towards me. He's got his head lamp on

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got his hands in his pockets. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>did you throw a rock? Like I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I shouldn't asked him that because how could he?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, did you throw a rock?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what are you talking about I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>threw a rock at me or something. He goes, dude, whatever, no,

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<v Speaker 2>And another.

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<v Speaker 3>One flew right in front of my face.

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<v Speaker 2>So I shine in my light around and to my

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<v Speaker 2>left is the pond, and to my right is just

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<v Speaker 2>straight blueberry bushes, briers, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Swamped like with treat you can't see through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, dude, what was that? I said, he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the second one? I said, I don't know, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, let's get out of here. So we

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<v Speaker 2>get in the boat. And as we're going out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's only got a little troller motor on electric motive.

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<v Speaker 2>The rocks are coming NonStop, and they're as we're moving.

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<v Speaker 2>They're falling all around the bow of the boat.

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<v Speaker 3>They never touched the boat, and the boat is a

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<v Speaker 3>square boat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a Pelican gator or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>all these rocks are just going around the front of

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<v Speaker 2>the boat. As we're moving. I'm getting wet. These rocks

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<v Speaker 2>are hitting the water. I'm getting wet. We finally get

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<v Speaker 2>out fire enough and it stops, and I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>was that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's I don't no.

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<v Speaker 2>So all then this weird rooster sound started.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like somebody in a deep voice mimicking a rooster,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Right at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a five thousand loomin flashlight in my

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<v Speaker 2>tackle bag, so I pull it out and I'm shining

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<v Speaker 2>on the shore and there's nothing there at all, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>And as we're fishing and it's getting daylight out, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no more rocks the rest of that day. But the

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<v Speaker 2>rooster call sound sounded like it would be one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>feet from shore and then a mile away, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred feet from shore, then a mile away, and

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<v Speaker 2>it did it all the way until the sun started

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<v Speaker 2>breaking through really and we fished the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>day and it got really hot, and there was we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't actually I don't think. I don't even remember catching anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And we get back to the truck we loaded the boat,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what's up with those rocks. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, it's probably just some hobo or

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<v Speaker 2>some you know, somebody around here. Maybe it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that live in the house. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>us around here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we'd let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>So a week or two goes by and it is

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<v Speaker 2>still August of twenty three. We uh, he calls me up.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, you want to go down there. I said, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go down there. And you know, I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the it's not my truck going down there. If

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<v Speaker 2>you get rocks hitting your truck, I don't here, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go back down there, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>big storm coming and we shouldn't have went, but we

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<v Speaker 2>did anyway, And we go out there and we got there.

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<v Speaker 2>This time it was in the afternoon. So we got

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<v Speaker 2>there probably around four or five in the afternoon, and

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<v Speaker 2>we go out, we fish, catch a couple of fish,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing great, whatever. The sky goes black like black black,

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<v Speaker 2>like the the lightning the rain. We're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>back across the pond, and the boat's actually like like

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<v Speaker 2>the boat actually had like two inches of water in

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<v Speaker 2>it by the time we got back in.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we shouldn't have, but that was stupid. So

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<v Speaker 3>you get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're rushing. We're rushing to get the boat in

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<v Speaker 2>the truck to strap it down, and as we're doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>rocks are flying in again. And it always waits like

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<v Speaker 2>you got like five five minutes, ten minutes of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before they start doing whatever this is, that's it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be them.

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<v Speaker 3>But so rocks start coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's torrential downpour, it's nine o'clock at night, it's pitch black,

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<v Speaker 2>and somebody's throwing rocks at us again. And they never

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<v Speaker 2>hit us, not once. These rocks never touch your body,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're big enough some of them where if they

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<v Speaker 2>hit you, some of them are size of potatoes, they

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<v Speaker 2>knock your head right off. So that was the second time,

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<v Speaker 2>and still we left and you know, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>on the way home, and we're like, dude, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to be a hobo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be like some homeless guy that's got

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<v Speaker 2>a tent back there and he doesn't want us there

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<v Speaker 2>and he's annoyed, and you know, that's it. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>we could come up with. So I wasn't scared. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a feeling. I didn't have a reason to

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<v Speaker 2>be nervous. I didn't have a you know, nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe again two one, two weeks later we go

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<v Speaker 2>back and now it's again it's four or five in

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon, So we get down there, and that year,

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<v Speaker 2>every time we went, these three times, there was nobody

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<v Speaker 2>ever down there except for this one guy. So this

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<v Speaker 2>old timer shows up and he's like, oh, you boys

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna go fishing. Yeah, yeah, oh I've been fishing

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<v Speaker 2>this pond thirty years. And this guy's like giving us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, senkos and certain which is a rubble worm.

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<v Speaker 2>He's giving us different stuff, and he's like, yeah, go

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<v Speaker 2>over here in that corner. That's where these type of

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<v Speaker 2>fish hang out, and go over there, and and these

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<v Speaker 2>long winded and he kept going and dance, getting impatient.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, hey, we got to go. I said, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, nice talk to you, sir. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they had no problem. And something just gave me the

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<v Speaker 2>inkling to ask him if he's ever seen or heard

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<v Speaker 2>anything weird. So I said, hey, can't see something and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like yeah, I said, did you ever hear see

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<v Speaker 2>anything out here when you're fishing? He was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not that I can think of, I said, And he goes, oh, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a weird rooster noise sometimes when I'm down here.

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<v Speaker 3>Early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, okay, noted.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, all right, good luck, have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well get out there. We're fishing the beautiful night,

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<v Speaker 2>no clouds or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>We stayed till.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten this time. And Dan knows that I watch these

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<v Speaker 2>these podcasts. I watch you, I watch Wes, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually it. I used to watch some other ones, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with the way it's what they're doing anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So I stopped it. But he makes fun of me.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, what do those bigfoot do again?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, what do you mean? He's like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>they whoop or something? I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just about to come in and he's making

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<v Speaker 2>these whoop sounds and he's laughing, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's actually embarrassing because he's doing it loud and

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<v Speaker 2>I know people can hear, and I'm like, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Just knock it off. Oh yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So get back to the truck and it's it's still

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit daylight, but barely. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight thirty, so it's still a little light. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're putting the truck away. I'm in the boat away.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm waiting for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just waiting for it. I'm like this it's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be third times charm.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And Dan is cheap, and he has these old ratchet

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<v Speaker 2>straps that are all jammed up and rusty, and even

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<v Speaker 2>though he's a brand new Toyleter truck, apparently came by

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<v Speaker 2>new ratchet straps. So he's screwing around with these ratchet

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<v Speaker 2>straps trying to get the boat down. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>panning around with the flashlight and a rock flies out

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<v Speaker 2>of the woods and lands by my feet. Right it

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<v Speaker 2>hits a bush lands by my feet. And I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Dan, it's doing it again. He goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not shut up, You're not scaring me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no, it's doing it again. And it just

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<v Speaker 2>started doing it a lot. Like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>rocks coming. I mean, it through at least twenty something rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting pissed and he's like, dude, it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>whole ball. You need to calm down. I'm freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, I'm done. I don't want to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like this. This is it's stating the kind

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<v Speaker 2>to kick in that this is not just a person.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still can't fully accept it. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'll teach you to freaking lesson whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And he grabs a pile of rocks and

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<v Speaker 2>he starts whipping them into the woods where these rocks

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<v Speaker 2>are coming out. Every time he threw a rock, one

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<v Speaker 2>would be passing it coming out like it knew he

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<v Speaker 2>was throwing. It was matching him perfectly. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>his rock was it's not actually happening like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was like his rock was.

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<v Speaker 3>Bouncing off an invisible force field. That's how perfect it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just he'd throwing foot it was already passing.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, what was that, I said, dude, I

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<v Speaker 2>told you. I'm like, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>A huge rock, bigger than.

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<v Speaker 2>A potato comes out of the woods and lands dead

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<v Speaker 2>nuts center in the middle of the boat. And the

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<v Speaker 2>weird thing is it didn't roll around, it didn't move.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird. It just hit the boat and that

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<v Speaker 2>was it. It just stuck in the middle of the boat

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a magnet or something. And he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I said, dude, I don't I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>I jumped in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Truck first and I locked the door and a rock,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the size of the marble hit the

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<v Speaker 2>roof and rolled down and I'm watching it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>set right on the wiper. So he gets in and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I'm not finished unratching the boat. I said, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>just screw it.

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<v Speaker 3>The boat's mostly in there. Just get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go up the road a mile or.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and we'll get out and we'll check them and

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<v Speaker 2>sure we have anything before we leave. So he's flying

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<v Speaker 2>up the road. We're doing like thirty and this is

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, a narrow dirt road like you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty fast.

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<v Speaker 2>We go up about a mile a mile and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and we get out and he's a grab the flashlight,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So we're checking anything. The second I opened

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<v Speaker 2>my door a rock being right off the tree behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just drove more than a mile doing thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, do you still think it's a person? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, hell, did this person catch up to

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<v Speaker 2>us if we just drove a mile at thirty miles

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and they're already throwing rocks at us.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, He's like, whatever, dude, you keep imagining crap.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep watching the stupid Bigfoot crap or whatever you watch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done with this whatever. So that was the last

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<v Speaker 2>time of August twenty twenty three. So the whole year

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<v Speaker 2>goes by nour In last year, he goes, hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to Halfway Pond? I just gave it away,

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<v Speaker 2>But all right there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Halfway Pawn.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go, you know what, Yeah, I'll go screw it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the odds of the stuff happening again? So we

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<v Speaker 2>get down there. This time there's a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 2>We could barely find parking. There's people on jet skis

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<v Speaker 2>and we went early in the day. There's people swimming.

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<v Speaker 2>Find a parking spot. It's in a different area than

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<v Speaker 2>we usually park. And we get the boating and we're

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<v Speaker 2>just fishing. Sure enough, ten o'clock comes, it's pitch black

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<v Speaker 2>coming in and this time the truck was right near

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<v Speaker 2>the water.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have to go get the truck. Truck was

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<v Speaker 3>right there. He backs the truck and this is a

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<v Speaker 3>brand new Oh it's not brand new anymore. I was

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<v Speaker 3>a leftover.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a twenty twenty three Tacoma. So he backs

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<v Speaker 2>the truck down and I'm waiting again. I'm like, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a whole year ago. I'm like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, I got my flashlight handing around and

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<v Speaker 2>a rock comes flying out of the woods again. And

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, this is the first time I noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>everything is dead, perfectly quiet. There's not a sound. The

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<v Speaker 2>only sound that I heard was a whipperwill.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I look back on all the other times

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there was no sound, there's no crickets, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no frogs, there's no anything. So a rock comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like what I try to tell him and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, well, what I had heard something? I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's rocks, and a rock beams right off the roof

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<v Speaker 2>of the truck, brand new truck, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>made like a sound like of a like if you

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<v Speaker 2>stepped on like a an empty beer can or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, dude, dude, that just.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit my truck. I said, yeah, right on your roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's mad and I just want to go. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm holding my flashlight, it gets so hot in

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<v Speaker 2>my hand that I can't physically hold it anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes out this and this is a brand new

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not the same flashlight I had before.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a better, newer one. And it gets hot

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<v Speaker 2>in my hand. I can't hold it. I turn it off.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>I get in the truck. He's done with the boat.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, just go go because these rocks were

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than the last time. He's like, dude, calm down,

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<v Speaker 2>calm down. And I'm like, no, no, go. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>hot out. So he's sitting there and he's playing with

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<v Speaker 2>the AC and he's turning the radio on whatever station,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wants I'm like, dude, you gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, just go.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want I'm screaming at him. Actually, at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I do you like dents in your brand new truck?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't stop it. You being a baby. It ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, whatever, dude, and I'm antsy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, okay, calm down, calm down. He puts his

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<v Speaker 2>foot on the brake and he puts it in drive

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<v Speaker 2>and when he looks, he looks over it in the

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<v Speaker 2>driver's mirror and just starts losing his mind, losing his mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, he's screaming, don't look back.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you do, don't look back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a flashlight anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's done.

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<v Speaker 2>And all I had was a little pocket, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little cheap led flashlight. I'm climbing, he's stuffing it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>climbing in the back seat and I opened the slider

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to shine. I can't see anything. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just flying and I'm like, I keep I get back

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<v Speaker 2>in my seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what did you see? What did you see? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's flying. I'm like, what did you see? He's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. We get all the way to the main

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<v Speaker 2>road and he stops and we're just sitting now where

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a street light there and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're back and you know, on the main road. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy's going by. I said, what did you see? He goes, Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>all I know was big, it's I reflect and red

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<v Speaker 2>and I've just seen it walk right behind the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, okay, so that's what it was. He goes, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to admit that that's not what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, dude, what was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But I don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it anymore. I said, okay, you don't want to talk Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about it. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy I don't go hunting. I fish. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>up in tree stands at four in the morning. He's

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<v Speaker 2>up there for daylight, climbs up there, never had a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to deal with this stuff. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to think about it, doesn't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just very nonsense, even though he saw the thing and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was the last time I went to Halfway Pond,

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<v Speaker 2>and that will be the last time I will go there.

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<v Speaker 2>So a week or two goes by calls me up.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go fishing? I said, yeah, yep, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to Halfway? No? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, yeah, that is kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want any more do I said, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>'screw that let's go somewhere else. He said, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>fish in one of the ponds and miles standards. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I think it's like as the crow flies

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<v Speaker 2>maybe six seven miles maybe away five miles away from

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<v Speaker 2>where we were. And I'm like, well, at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I still discredit. I'm still trying to grasp reality of

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<v Speaker 2>whatever this is.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, okay, maybe there's still just kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you add up how of a insane aim

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<v Speaker 2>this thing has and the quietness and when you shine

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<v Speaker 2>the light there's nothing there, and then what he saw,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm in my mind, I'm like, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going back to that place, I don't care.

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00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'll go try another pond. So we go to

421
00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the ponds in Mount Standards State Park and

422
00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.480
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody around, and we get the boat, put it in.

423
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:24.559
<v Speaker 2>He had to move the truck, you know, get to

424
00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.480
<v Speaker 2>pack another one hundred feet away. There's nothing, you know,

425
00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.319
<v Speaker 2>there's no direct access. So we go out and we're

426
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.640
<v Speaker 2>fishing and there's a perfect night and there's nothing wrong.

427
00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.599
<v Speaker 2>And we're out there at about ten o'clock at night

428
00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:44.519
<v Speaker 2>and we're coming back in and we got to drag

429
00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.519
<v Speaker 2>the boat up this uh, you know, a gra gravel

430
00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like drainage ditch thing and actually the rocks are pretty big,

431
00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>so you're fumbling all over the place climb up this thing.

432
00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.759
<v Speaker 2>He has to go get the truck packet on the

433
00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.119
<v Speaker 2>wrong side of the road face, you know, facing the

434
00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:58.680
<v Speaker 2>wrong way.

435
00:21:58.559 --> 00:21:59.920
<v Speaker 3>To get it to where we can just get the boat.

436
00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.880
<v Speaker 2>And there's nobody out there. Ten o'clock at night, so

437
00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got this new flashlight that I had

438
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm shining around the one that didn't work before

439
00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:12.319
<v Speaker 2>that got hot.

440
00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:17.240
<v Speaker 3>And there's no really like low low underbrush.

441
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Everything's kind of just scrub pines, so you can see

442
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:24.839
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. So I'm just, you know, just because I'm like,

443
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna look around and seeing he's already helped

444
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:29.880
<v Speaker 2>them put the boat in and he's strapping it down again,

445
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:34.160
<v Speaker 2>and a rock comes skidding down the road and you

446
00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.119
<v Speaker 2>can hear it's coming kinking, kink, kink, and it's you know,

447
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.480
<v Speaker 2>half the size of a baseball. And I'm like, dude's

448
00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 2>doing it again. And he says, laughing, no, it's not

449
00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.519
<v Speaker 2>your screw. I said, no, here it is again, And

450
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>then a rock comes skipping up the road from the

451
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.839
<v Speaker 2>other way, and then they just started going like crazy

452
00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and they are going right over the truck right over

453
00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:01.000
<v Speaker 2>our heads, not touching us. And I'm getting aggravated now

454
00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>because now this is the fifth time. And I just

455
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.599
<v Speaker 2>said out loud, I don't know who you are, what

456
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 2>you are, but can you please stop. We're just fishing,

457
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we're leaving. We don't want any trouble.

458
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Please stop.

459
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 2>And everything stopped. And I looked at him and I'm like,

460
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>what do you think this is? He's like, I don't know.

461
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>So I waited about thirty seconds and he had a

462
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:36.920
<v Speaker 2>forty five on him. So I said, it's this is kids.

463
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll scam him if I say this out loud.

464
00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.279
<v Speaker 3>So I said, uh, hey Dan, he.

465
00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Said yeah, still screwing with the boat. I said, uh,

466
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>good thing. You got your gun on you right, and

467
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he went yep. The second he said, yep, a rock

468
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.839
<v Speaker 2>the size of a baseball pile drives this no pocketing sign.

469
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.559
<v Speaker 2>That was literally, you know, maybe two feet over to

470
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 2>his right and maybe about three or four feet back.

471
00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>It sounded like a gunshot. So he's right, I'm done.

472
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm out. I'm out. So he just finished half. We

473
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:19.559
<v Speaker 3>get in the.

474
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Truck and we're flying out of there, and I said,

475
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what, dude, I'm sick. Of this, I said,

476
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>turn around. There's one turn around.

477
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Jordan, are you there? Oh my goodness, I'm going to

478
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>call that. I'm going to call it chort and back

479
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 1>right now.

480
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message

481
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 4>system seven seven four four one.

482
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 1>All right, this is this is a second call today

483
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>where we have gotten we've gotten disconnected. I really hope

484
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I can call this guy back.

485
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 4>Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system.

486
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.440
<v Speaker 4>Seven seven four is not available at this time at

487
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 4>the tone. Please record your message. When you have finished recording,

488
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 4>you may hang out or press one for more options.

489
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jordan, this Dermia calling you back. We got disconnected

490
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>or somehow. It's just like the phone went click on

491
00:25:37.279 --> 00:26:00.279
<v Speaker 1>your side. I'm going to try the other number.

492
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Please leave your message for.

493
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Well. I just tried both of Jordan's phone numbers. It

494
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is very evident that someone does not want these calls

495
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Wow, okay, I'm just gonna have to see

496
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>if he calls back.

497
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Let me test him.

498
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Here here we go, all right, we're gonna give us

499
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 1>some time. Yeah, well, this is really weird, guys, it's

500
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>very very weird.

501
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And when I finished the story, I said basically like

502
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>queuing you to be like, oh wow, Jordan, Well and

503
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm like waiting. I looked down on the phone and

504
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 2>it was still going, like the call never ended.

505
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got the recording going on. I'm bringing up

506
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the map of Plymouth again. Uh So we were at

507
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>see you were at the the other pond and Miles

508
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 1>standish and then there had been like a rock your buddy.

509
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 1>You were like, hey, you have your gun right and

510
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>then and he was like yep, and then this huge

511
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>rock hit the sign and then yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

512
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you didn't hear anything about the cloud with

513
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the tail on it, with the smoke or anything. No, no, no, no, okay,

514
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>oh man, this is weird. So is this one of

515
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>those things where they're listening and then they cut the

516
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>phone call.

517
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, dude, but it happens a lot to me.

518
00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even kidding.

519
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is what I That's the thing that fascinates

520
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>me more about Sasquatch than Sasquatch is why are they

521
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to hide it? And what else do they have

522
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to hide? That's what That's what confuses me. That's the intrigue.

523
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 2>And just like what's his name there? From How to Hunt?

524
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 2>He says, if you if they admitted these things are real,

525
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:18.519
<v Speaker 2>then they'd have to admit all the other crap that

526
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 2>they're for tending eight reel is real.

527
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

528
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So anyway, that's what makes me mad. It actually

529
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 2>aggravates me because it's like saying, why you hide? Like,

530
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>what do you got to hide?

531
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Dude?

532
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So hopefully I don't cut the soul phone. Okay,

533
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I will keep checking if you don't mind, every five

534
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>minutes on this ask if you're still there.

535
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's good. That's good for me. Yep.

536
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So they threw a rock at the sign, and

537
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean it sounded like a gunshot and it was

538
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>right when I said, do you have your gun? Dan?

539
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So whatever it is knows what English is somehow, or

540
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 2>they can read your mind. I don't know. So we

541
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>leave and I say, no, turn around. I want to

542
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>see this thing walk out. I've had it. So he goes,

543
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>are you're sure? I said, yeah, turn around. So we

544
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>turn around. We go back down a mile, standish down

545
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>that road and nothing happened. So he said, dude, I

546
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>got to get out and pee. Dude, you got to

547
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>come me. So I get out and I'm shining this flashlight.

548
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Nothing happens. Let's get back from the truck, and now

549
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>we're just we're now we're heading back towards my house.

550
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 2>We're heading the right way, and a rock beams off

551
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the truck. So he's pissed. It's a brand new truck.

552
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I think you paid like forty five grand for this thing.

553
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>He goes, give me the flashlight. He gets out and

554
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>stands on the door. Still the door is still. He

555
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>shines the light. He climbs up and shine the light

556
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>over the truck and a rock lane directly in the

557
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 2>boat in the back of the truck. You're still there, yes, okay,

558
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>So he freaks out. He's like, dude, we gotta get

559
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>out of here. I'm done. I don't want any this

560
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>thing already. Actually, then, like one of the rock that

561
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 2>last time we were at the other pond, the rock

562
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 2>skimmed the roof of the truck. That's what that sound was,

563
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>and it actually left it took paint off. And if

564
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I go, like I looked at it the other day

565
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>when he came over, it's rusting like it took the

566
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>paint off. So we get out of there. I said,

567
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm never going back here again. I'm done. I'm not

568
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll go drive through here, I'll come in here during

569
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the day. I'm not fishing here. So a few weeks

570
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>go by, he goes, do you want to go fishing?

571
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, I go Where do you want to go?

572
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I said, why don't we go down near a giant

573
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>reservoir And there's a bunch of fire roads And I

574
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 2>fished there my whole life. Never had a problem. And

575
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you got to walk in like a mile to get

576
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 2>to this place. But it's nice because nobody else wants

577
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>to the fishermen. You want to get in a boat

578
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and go, or they want to get out and fish

579
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>off of a causeway or something. So we we meet

580
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>a church parking lot that's got a fire road going

581
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>off the back of it. It's right down the street.

582
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>So we walk in. We're doing great, and a lot

583
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 2>of big fish. We caught, you know, five six pounds.

584
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 2>It was really nice. Straight in the fall, they're all

585
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>fattening up, falling and they were hitting everything. And now

586
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, we got there it maybe five and

587
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 2>by the time we walked out there, now it's about

588
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>seven thirty and standing it back, and he goes, I

589
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's time to go. I said, all right, so

590
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>let's make a couple more casts. Okay with that. And

591
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>now there's a big rock where we're at, and the

592
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>shoreline where we're fishing. It was such a dry summer

593
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 2>that the shoreline, you know, normally you'd be in two

594
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>three feet of water walking on it. And there's a

595
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>rock the size of like two or three pickup trucks

596
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>right on this peninsula, right on this point. So we

597
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>climb up on the rock and we're fishing a rock.

598
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 2>The rocks just start coming in, and I freaked out

599
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>so bad that I just got down on my knees

600
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 2>and started praying the Lord's Prayer. I don't know what's happened.

601
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just wanted to go away. And

602
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>now we're in the middle of no like we're a

603
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 2>mile in the woods. He doesn't have his gun on him,

604
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>that there's nothing we can do, and the rocks just

605
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>keep coming. So I get down, I stop praying, and

606
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the name of Jesus leave us alone. As corny as

607
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>that does sounds to some people, that's what I believe.

608
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And it stopped and I looked at him, I go,

609
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 2>what are we gonna do? He's like, dude, grab you

610
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what, you know, gotta be a man, got

611
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to walk out of here. I'm like, okay, Like what

612
00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do? What are you gonna do? So we, uh,

613
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>we start walking and you gotta walk, you know, about

614
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet to get back into the woods because

615
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>there's cliffs, you know, you got you know, twelve fourteen

616
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 2>fifteen foot cliffs up that's where all the stuff was

617
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 2>coming down at us. As we're walking back to the path,

618
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a log, you know, about eight inches in diameter and

619
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe six seven feet long comes flying down off the

620
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 2>top of the hill and just lands right on the beach,

621
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the rocks right in front of us. I shine the

622
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>light back up there. There's nothing there, nothing. I am

623
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>like done. I am hysterical. We start running out of there,

624
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's rocks bouncing off of the trees, there's branches breaking.

625
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.000
<v Speaker 2>We're getting pushed out. I get to the point where

626
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't run anymore. I got a big tackle bag,

627
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I got my rods. He's older than me, he's dying.

628
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>We pull We just stopped and I shine the flashlight

629
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>back and there's nothing there, and there's no sounds, there's

630
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>no crickets, there's no bugs, there's no nothing still there. Yes, okay,

631
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>so sorry. I don't mean to keep asking that, but

632
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust this phone, so it sucks. So we

633
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>finally get out of there. The second we get to

634
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>that church parking lot, everything stopped. It just stopped, and

635
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I was so pissed. I was taunting it. I was like, hey,

636
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm in my truck. My because we took two separate vehicles,

637
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>so my truck's there now and my trucks are closest

638
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 2>to the woods, and I'm like, come on, throw another rock,

639
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>come on, let's do it. Go ahead. No, nothing, They

640
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>just stopped. So I'm ruffed up. He's rubbed up. He's like, dude,

641
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I'm going home. That was enough for me.

642
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, yep, that's enough for me too, dude. So

643
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I go home and I cracked a couple of beers

644
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and just try to forget it. A couple weeks later,

645
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you want to go out again, I said, yes, I

646
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 2>will go. I'm not staying till daylight nighttime. I will

647
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>leave with plenty of sun left in the sky. I

648
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 2>am not doing this again. So we go. I can't relax,

649
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>so we walk out there. I don't even want to fish.

650
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm too raancy. It's too much. So it's like six

651
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>o'clock comes and you can tell the sun's gonna set.

652
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 2>So I said, dude, I'm out, let's go. Oh come on,

653
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 2>don't be a you know what. Let's go come on. Nope, nope, nope, nope,

654
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. He goes, all right, So let's start walking out.

655
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>It's daylight. I can see, I can see everything. And

656
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a rock the size of a basketball comes flying out

657
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of the woods. I can hear it hitting the branches

658
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>above me, and it lands in the water and it.

659
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 5>Just makes the biggest compoge. And he's like, oh, wow,

660
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 5>did you hear that fish? And said, how did you

661
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 5>not hear? That's not a fish? And he's like, yeah, well,

662
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 5>I said no, it's not. We're arguing. I'm like how,

663
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 5>and I'm yelling at him. I'm like, how dumb are you?

664
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 5>That's not a fish, Dude, I've had enough of this stuff.

665
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 5>He goes, no, no, no, we got to get down there.

666
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 5>You're just being paranoid.

667
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>You're being parent. I said, I'm not being paranoid, and

668
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>then a rock we start walking again, A rock beside

669
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>of a bowling ball, maybe like one of those little

670
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>kid bowling balls, you know, the bump of bowling balls

671
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 2>comes flying out of the woods, lands on the path,

672
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 2>but directly between us. Way we just walked in between

673
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 2>us where I just walked, and bounces and goes into

674
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the lake. And somehow he doesn't hear this at all.

675
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 2>So I turned around and said, what the f? He

676
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 2>goes what I said, how did you just trip? He

677
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>just no? I said, what was that thump? Because I

678
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>saw it. I'm like and I'm like trying to rationalize this,

679
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>so I already know what it was, but I'm like,

680
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 2>what what is going on? Like? Why how did you

681
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>not hear it? Did? I just see what I saw?

682
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, dude, you're freaking out. You need to

683
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 2>calm down. I'm like, I'm not. Do you think I'm loosinating? Dude? Like,

684
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I don't understand why you just I'm like, dude, no,

685
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 2>just He's like, dude, due, you gotta calm down. I'm

686
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>like nope, and I start walking. I'm walking out of it.

687
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm done, and he's behind me, here's a dude, waight up.

688
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm like nope.

689
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 6>And the whole time, the rest of the time we're

690
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.480
<v Speaker 6>walking out, they weren't doing what they were doing at night.

691
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 2>The last time.

692
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 6>They were pelting everything, ripping branches off. There's rocks the

693
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 6>side of baseballs, taking branches off, and they this was weird.

694
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>They're dropping marble to golf ball sized rocks from the sky.

695
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 2>They're not getting whipped at you or past you. They're

696
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>falling directly from above you, right in front of your faces.

697
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Go dude, what was there? I said, dude, you eight coorns.

698
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, you think I'm that dumb, I don't.

699
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I watched the rock hit the ground and roll. No, no, no,

700
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just eight corns, dude, it's the fall. I said, no, no, no, no, no,

701
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>we get back. I said, I'm dude, I'm never going

702
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 2>in there again. And I've been in these woods my

703
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>whole life by myself till midnight, and the only thing

704
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I can think of is back when I was in

705
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>high school. I'm thirty four. Me and my buddy, my

706
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 2>other friend Dan just passed away. We rode our bikes

707
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>out there to fish one time and a spot near there,

708
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 2>and I got ahead of him and stopped to wait

709
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>for him. And I was probably fourteen fifteen and a

710
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 2>rock hit my bike tire and fell on the ground.

711
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>That was it. And I turned around said, hey, did

712
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you throw a rock at He goes no, and his

713
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>chain fell off. He was busy fixing his chain and

714
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I never thought anything of it. That was it. So

715
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>now I've had three times in Plymouth, the twenty three,

716
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and then one more at that halfway and then another

717
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>one incident at the particular pond in Miles Standish. Now

718
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 2>it's doing it down the street from my house. These

719
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm miles from Miles Standish, So how does this happened?

720
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>That's I don't understand. Why how do these things know

721
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 2>where I'm at, what I'm doing? Why are they bothering us?

722
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Why are they forcing us out? So I was talking

723
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to I shouldn't have done this, because I get made

724
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 2>fun of it to this day.

725
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 6>But I brought it up to a guy at work

726
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 6>and he goes, oh, my buddy does a show and

727
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 6>he has a podcast, and da da da da da.

728
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you your message him? He lives around here

729
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>and I won't mention who it is for his own privacy,

730
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>but at that point in time, I just wanted some

731
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>type of answer. And I don't believe in the regular

732
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>conventional way that a lot of these the problem. I'm

733
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>not saying that anybody's wrong. Anybody can do this the

734
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>way they want to do it. But you're going out

735
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and banging on trees and making hooting

736
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and hollering and stuff, you might get a reaction, but

737
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>usually these things just find you. From what I've found,

738
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an expert, but I'm not into that stuff

739
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>at all. So he goes, you should really go and

740
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 2>talk to him, and blah blah blah. So I said, fine,

741
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 2>screw So I I message a guy, Yeah, let me

742
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>talk to you. Can I put you on speakerphone with

743
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>my prit and I said yeah. So we're talking. They're like, yep,

744
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>that's what's going on. And I said, okay, well, if

745
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to go out with us, you're more than welcome.

746
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 2>And they wanted to see the place in daytime where

747
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the last thing happened. So I took them, and I

748
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of, actually, to be honest, I felt kind of

749
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed because this is not my type of thing. It's

750
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>not I really listen to stories. I just want to

751
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 2>hear encounters. That's what I want to hear. I want

752
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>to hear and I want to compare it to things

753
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>that I've seen. It's interesting. I don't really go out

754
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going out there and looking for these things.

755
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>That's not my thing. So I take them over there,

756
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was weird because when we were out there, again,

757
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>this is a very congested area. I mean, there's clumps

758
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>of a few thousand acres here and there, but that's it.

759
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 2>We're on the shore of the slake that I took

760
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>them to. It's right down the street. And sure, there's

761
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a pile of muscle shells. I'm not I'm talking like

762
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 2>a hundred more than a hundred shells of freshwater muscles.

763
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And there's this big impression in the ground. So, okay,

764
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 2>what was it. I told my friend Dan about it

765
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and go, oh, it's probably a raccoon. I said, no, dude,

766
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 2>raccoons don't go and collect a big pile and then

767
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 2>sit there and eat them. So whatever that was, I

768
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Other than that, that whole thing was kind

769
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of uneventful, and I just they wanted to see where

770
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 2>things happened, and that was one of the weird things.

771
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>That was it. No footprints, no nothing. So a couple

772
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>of weeks later, an hour in October and later October

773
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and the guy goes, hey, do you want to go

774
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 2>out to one of our spots? And I won't say

775
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>where it is, and I said, you know, what's screw it,

776
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I've seen find a bigfoot and all this. I said, Okay,

777
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll go check it out. What do I have to lose.

778
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a Friday night, I don't care. So I go

779
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>out with them and they're beinging on trees and whooping

780
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and so in silence, and I'm like, to me, this

781
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>is dumb. I'm like, I just I'm already thinking about

782
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>what I want to eat for dinner, what I want

783
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 2>to watch later, and where I'm I'm not making fun

784
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 2>of them, I'm just saying like I was just like

785
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of checked out, like okay, this is what I

786
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>thought it would be. So we're walking out of the

787
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>woods and there's a big field and we came in

788
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 2>from and it's off of the main road. So we're

789
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 2>in the woods about one hundred feet still and we're

790
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>walking out and all of a sudden, there's all these

791
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 2>little lights and they are about the size of a

792
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>big marble and they're just blinking one here, one there,

793
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 2>one here, one there. And I'm like, what that's that.

794
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 3>They're like what.

795
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, what does that? And I'm like, oh, that

796
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 6>means that they're around. I'm like, what do you mean them?

797
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

798
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 6>Like like, what do you mean? Oh, well, that's what

799
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 6>they do. And I said, what do you mean? That's

800
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 6>what they do? And all of a sudden, this orb

801
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 6>the sides of like a baseball. Now, did mind you?

802
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>We're not this is like a small clump of woods

803
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>compared to other parts, like this is like a few

804
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred acres. Okay, This baseball size orb comes drifting through

805
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the trees and it starts to grow and it goes

806
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to about the size of an exercise ball, and it's pulsating.

807
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Now it's going down about the size of basketball and

808
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 2>then back to an exercise ball. And when I'm looking

809
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 2>at this thing, it looks like one of those it's

810
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>got like you know when you look at one of

811
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 2>those deep ocean jellyfish that's got like the different colors,

812
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>like the strobing stuff you barely could make it out,

813
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>but you could see that in it. And this thing

814
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>is getting smaller and bigger, and it's drifting back through

815
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 2>the woods and forward through the woods towards us, backwards,

816
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's weaving around trees, and there's no sound, and

817
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just like everybody else says, that's Ces's orbs, there's

818
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>no they don't. It wasn't emitting light. It was just

819
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 2>it was just all self contained. It was weird. And

820
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 2>I never got a feeling from this thing that it

821
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 2>was violent, it was angry, it was evil. I just

822
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe what I'm looking at. I did there's no

823
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>way after all these stories and accounts that I've heard

824
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>about these stupid orbs, and I still believe them, but

825
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's just no way that I'm ever going

826
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to see something like this. And I found it weird,

827
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Like why am I seeing this after? Like why did

828
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>this not happen? Like obviously that's what was throwing the

829
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>rocks at me and my friend, So what now I'm

830
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 2>with the group of these researchers, okay, and this is happening.

831
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So we're watching this thing for twenty minutes, half hour.

832
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know and all of a sudden just kind

833
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of dissipates backs up and it's gone. And then two

834
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 2>pairs of eyeballs show up that are eight feet tall,

835
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>white eyeballs glowing white, like a yellowy white. And I'm

836
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 2>watching these things blink and everything. I don't know what

837
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking I mean, I know what I'm looking at,

838
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if it's them, I don't know

839
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>if it's some type of deity. I don't know. All

840
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I know is there's two big sets of eyeballs. I

841
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do. I don't I'm I'm you're

842
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuck. I mean, I had my truck there.

843
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I could have ran away. You know, it's a few

844
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet away out in the field that could have

845
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I could have ran. I just I think you get

846
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of you don't want to ruin it.

847
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 6>You're like, well, if I die die, I don't think

848
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 6>I will, but I'm probably not gonna get this chance again.

849
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>So I'm staying with them, and we're just watching these eyes.

850
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, one of the guys hands me, yeah, it

851
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't thermal, it was a night vision set of binocular

852
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>or something, and he's like, look at it, Okay, I

853
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>grab it, and I'm looking at the parrot one of

854
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the sets of eyeballs, and it looked like a five

855
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>gallon bucket far ahead with a five foot shoulders standing

856
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>behind a road dedrom bush. I didn't see any detail.

857
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see the hair, I couldn't see a face.

858
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 2>It was just eyes with a giant outline. And I'm like, okay,

859
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, well why It's like, why is you shouldn't

860
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 2>be seeing this is? This is insane? So and mind

861
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you got really cold all of a sudden. It was

862
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 2>just freezing. I mean we went in the woods. It

863
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 2>was fifty sixty degrees out. I mean it was so

864
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 2>cold that my hands are going numb. I don't know

865
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>if that was just me my body's reaction to the

866
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So we get out of the woodline.

867
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 2>We're making it back towards the vehicles, and these things

868
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>are just keeping their distance, but they're falling us out.

869
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Once we got to the field, you just watch they

870
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>just they never left the woods.

871
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 6>Just the two of them, and I look up at

872
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 6>the sky.

873
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's infatuated with the woods, and the sun hadn't been

874
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't completely down and you know, like right before

875
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you get that really rich pink sky, there was no clouds.

876
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 2>This one cloud almost it wasn't perfect, like, it wasn't

877
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 2>straight lined triangle, but it looked like a wedge. It

878
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>looked like just a triangle cloud the size of a

879
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>pickup truck. And it was only, you know, one hundred

880
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 2>feet one hundred and fifty feet above the woodline, and

881
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>it's coming.

882
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 6>Over us, and it's got a tail on it, a

883
00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 6>black smoky tail that it looked, I don't know, it

884
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 6>almost looked like a comet tail, but it was just

885
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 6>really fluffy and wispy, and it did come out to

886
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 6>a point, but it was I don't know what I'm

887
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 6>looking this is. It's all too weird. The whole thing

888
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 6>is too weird. And it's got like sparkles in it.

889
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 6>It's got the cloud itself looked just like a regular

890
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 6>kind of cloud other than the weird shape. But the

891
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 6>tail on this thing looked like it.

892
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Almost looked like a black, black, dirty sooty smoke with

893
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>like gold flake in it. I get everyone's attention, They're

894
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>all look I said, what does that? Everyone looks up.

895
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>The second everybody looked at it, everyone saw it. It

896
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 2>disappeared in thin air, gone, and when it did, two

897
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>more sets of eyeballs showed up. Now there's four of them.

898
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So again, I sound like an idiot for saying this stuff,

899
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 2>because this isn't supposed to But I mean, I've never

900
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>really quite heard I've heard some weird stuff, but I've

901
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>never heard anybody talking about a cloud with a.

902
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Tail on it.

903
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 2>So that and then two more of these things show up.

904
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 2>So that's the first I've ever heard of it. And

905
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I've you know, put thousands of hours and the listening

906
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 2>to these podcasts. So that was weird. And we're going

907
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to leave, you know, they all went out at you know,

908
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 2>another twenty minutes. Their eyes just disappeared, and okay, they're gone,

909
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and we're all talking about it. And now they show

910
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>up on the other sides of the field, near the

911
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 2>road where we have to leave by, and it's all

912
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.559
<v Speaker 2>four of them, and you can see the move them

913
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>around they're walking through. There's no sound. You can see

914
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 2>where their eyes are moving. I look off to the

915
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 2>right after I was only counting three pairs of eyes,

916
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and I look off to the right and I just

917
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 2>saw a big, giant black mass just moving across the field.

918
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>My flashlight wouldn't have reached it. And then they all

919
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>went out and we just left. We were leaving and

920
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I had to bring one of the guys home. And

921
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 2>when I came out into the main road, I mean,

922
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the reason why I'm not mentioning any of this is

923
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 2>just for respect for him, because this is his research area.

924
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>And if I mentioned the road, everybody will know where

925
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 2>it is around here, so I just for respect for him,

926
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.039
<v Speaker 2>I won't do that. But when we pull out on

927
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the road, there's a F three fifty sitting there, and

928
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the ladies got all the interior lights on, and she's

929
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>sitting there with her elbows on the steering wheel, with

930
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>her hands up on her forehead, just staring out the window.

931
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 6>And I turned to the gentleman and I said, should

932
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 6>be taught. He's like, nope, just keep going. I said, okay.

933
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what that lady saw, but she

934
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>looked extremely distraught, and it was right where these things

935
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:03.559
<v Speaker 2>just were before they left, so I drop them off.

936
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to make of it. I had

937
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 2>to go to Walmart parking lot and sit for a

938
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.159
<v Speaker 2>few hours under the street lights just to calm down.

939
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>It was just too weird. It was just from everything

940
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that the terrifying things that happened in the woods, stuff

941
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 2>at the boat, and now I'm seeing the stuff in

942
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 2>my own eyes. It was just too much.

943
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 6>I ended up not getting home in like one in

944
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.280
<v Speaker 6>the morning, and I had to work the next day.

945
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't go out with them again. I kind

946
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.800
<v Speaker 2>of wanted to forget about it. I didn't want to

947
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>deal with it anymore. So the winter goes by and nothing, no,

948
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 2>not outside, not dealing with it. I'm busy plowing and

949
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 2>standing for the town. I got a lot of stuff

950
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 2>going on. So March finally.

951
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 6>Comes and the weather's getting nice and in the same

952
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 6>one that all the stuff happened with except he wasn't

953
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 6>there for the visual stuff. But he goes, you want

954
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 6>to go fishing? I said, yeah, all right.

955
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>So we meet up and it's a little river. It's deep,

956
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of fish in it, and it's

957
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of nowhere, like in the middle of

958
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 2>a wooded area, and it's daylight. I get it out

959
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 2>of the truck and a rock flies over my truck

960
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and he gets out and I said, dude, a rock

961
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:29.760
<v Speaker 2>just full of the truck.

962
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 6>He goes, no, it didn't. I said, yes, it's getting old.

963
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 6>At this point, I said that yep, it just happened.

964
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:37.800
<v Speaker 2>He goes, dude, it's just I said, how many times

965
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna say it's just freaking people? Dude? Now we're

966
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in a totally another spot, and I'm like, you know what,

967
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, So I stop fishing with him. Every

968
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>time we cast the law, a rock was hitting exactly

969
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 2>where were just casting the laws. And it got to

970
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the point where there's no point being here anymore.

971
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 6>And packed it up and then we left and I

972
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 6>haven't been near the woods.

973
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I I can't go back. It's ruined this for me.

974
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>And this was something that I did. There was nothing

975
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>better than I liked to get out of work grab

976
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 2>my fishing poles. I mean, I'm not like, I know

977
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people make this stuff up and stuff,

978
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>but I have PTSD and this was my That was

979
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>my number one thing to give me peace of mind

980
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 2>and relaxation was to grab a couple of beers, throw

981
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>my tackle back, walk out a mile or two and

982
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>just sit there till you know, nine, ten eleven o'clock

983
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>at night and just fish. I can't do that anymore.

984
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I refuse because the next step, yeah, dude,

985
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. So I don't know. Take all that for

986
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>what you will. I hate liars, I really do. And

987
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope you think I'm telling the truth because I

988
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.960
<v Speaker 2>actually don't even know. I just want answers, and this

989
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>is ruining. I'm afraid to go outside at night by myself.

990
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have twelve hundred and thirteen hundred acres

991
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 2>behind my house. It's creepy. I don't like it. I

992
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know when the phone caught off earlier, but I

993
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 2>mean I was younger, and weird stuff would happen around here,

994
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and I would never I never thought of this stuff.

995
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can remember sitting there in high school

996
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>a little after that, actually, and something would just smack

997
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the side of the house really freaking loud. It would

998
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 2>shake the paintings on the wall, and you come outside

999
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing there, and it's like, okay, was that that.

1000
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, none of this makes sense. I can't

1001
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 2>wrap my head around the cloud with the smoke on it,

1002
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 2>And then magically two more sets of eyeballs appear, like

1003
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know if you've ever heard that,

1004
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 2>but I've never heard that.

1005
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 1>The first thing I want to say is that it's

1006
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:46.599
<v Speaker 1>not crazy, because it is so It's not the first

1007
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>time that I've heard something like this, although the rock

1008
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>throwing is probably the most intense example I've ever heard

1009
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of rock throwing, to be honest, I mean, I've never

1010
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 1>heard of it where it follows you to different places

1011
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's just it's that's very extreme.

1012
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Dude. Yeah, I don't get I don't get the point.

1013
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't like I've tried to ask different people, like,

1014
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 2>who are you with. I'm like, my friend Dan, well,

1015
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.599
<v Speaker 2>what did he do? I'm like, I don't know how.

1016
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 3>Long my friends called me, I get up and mute it.

1017
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 2>They're like, did he take a park shot at one

1018
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 2>of these things or something. I'm like, I don't know, dude,

1019
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make any So he's out in the tree

1020
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 2>stand all the time.

1021
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 3>They don't screw them.

1022
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I've been out fishing by myself millions of times in

1023
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 2>those same woods. Nothing, It's only moment together and I

1024
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 2>don't get it.

1025
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 3>And nothing adds up.

1026
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 2>And then.

1027
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the the thing with the.

1028
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Cloud dude, with the smoky tail on it with the

1029
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 2>glitter in it, but whatever you want to call it.

1030
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And then the thing turns into two more sets of eyeballs.

1031
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what are they doing? Like? I like, what

1032
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 2>is that like? I don't know if that's like how

1033
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 2>they move around in this realm, because in my opinion,

1034
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 2>they're not here all the time. And everyone's like, oh, we're.

1035
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Going to go try to find where they live.

1036
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 2>They don't live here. I don't think they live here.

1037
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that they visit. And I could be wrong.

1038
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they stay here for months on end and that's

1039
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>why people find nests and tree structures and whatever. But

1040
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, after watching a lot of flash of beauty,

1041
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I watched a gentleman. I can't remember his name. It

1042
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 2>was out of Vermont or what's the capital of Vermont there?

1043
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:47.159
<v Speaker 3>I can't think of it.

1044
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, I know the one you're talking about. I'm

1045
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 1>blanking too. He because he does a lot what is

1046
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that guy's name? It does a lot of tree structure stuf.

1047
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's an alder.

1048
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Guy's got glasses. He talks about how these things act

1049
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot, a lot like how a autistic person would act.

1050
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 3>They know if you move and touch.

1051
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Things, and they're loud and vocal, and they get mad

1052
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 2>at certain things, and they like things in a certain way,

1053
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.079
<v Speaker 2>and they know how things are.

1054
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I don't know if me and Dan.

1055
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 3>My biggest thing is this.

1056
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that they only are I've heard this before,

1057
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.239
<v Speaker 2>that they're coming here to this plane of dimension or

1058
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 2>realm or whatever certain months of the year, and maybe

1059
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 2>there's different ones that stay here all the time. I

1060
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know, And obviously there's good ones and bad ones.

1061
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Because the size of these rocks that they're throwing, i'd

1062
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>be dead. So that's the thing that makes me question,

1063
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 2>like if they wanted me dead and they were evil

1064
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and there were some satanic evil demon, be dead already.

1065
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.159
<v Speaker 3>Because these things are perfectly accurate.

1066
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.480
<v Speaker 2>It's insane how accurate they are. It makes no sense.

1067
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 2>So I can't wrap my head around it because I

1068
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.079
<v Speaker 2>think there's just so we're only getting a little glimpse

1069
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.760
<v Speaker 2>of what these things are doing and what they're capable

1070
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of what. So that's a weird people out that everybody

1071
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that's like, oh, it's just a monkey. If I got

1072
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:24.679
<v Speaker 2>to hear it's a monkey one more time, I'm gonna

1073
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 2>lose my mind. It's not a monkey. It's not a monkey.

1074
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 2>There's no way it's a monkey. Oh well, then it's

1075
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.239
<v Speaker 2>to me, No, you're not missing the point. I know

1076
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not a monkey. You mean ape in general, Yes,

1077
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, primate whatever, or And I will mention this.

1078
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I started off like everybody did or most people do,

1079
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.639
<v Speaker 2>when I started listening to these podcasts. I won't mention

1080
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 2>the specific podcast that got me into all this stuff,

1081
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 2>but at the time, I'm sure you'll.

1082
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Put two and two together.

1083
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 2>When I sat mentioning it, it was about it's a

1084
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.199
<v Speaker 2>lost chain of the evolutionary tree, and these things are

1085
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 2>no more than some type of branch off the Neanderthals

1086
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 2>or some whatever ostralopithecuss. And then they get in it.

1087
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 3>It's like no, no, no, no, no.

1088
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 2>These things they do kill, they do eat, they do live, they.

1089
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Poop, they they pee, they leave RESIDU, they leave DNA.

1090
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 2>But there's so much to this that we don't know.

1091
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 2>And then everyone wants to put a label on it,

1092
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 2>like I know exactly what it. No, you don't, you

1093
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know crap, I don't know crap. All I know

1094
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 2>is what I saw, and it's something not of this

1095
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>world that we're not used to. So I don't know, dude,

1096
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1097
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's man, it is intense. And I'll tell you, like,

1098
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I've only talked to a few people from Massachusetts, but

1099
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the I would say, probably the

1100
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>most intense encounter series i've I've heard from Massachusetts. It's

1101
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 1>weird because you know, it's it's an area that you

1102
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 1>don't hear a lot about, this Plymouth area, which is

1103
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, south of Austin, not quite the Cape. It's

1104
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just an interesting area. But there's a lot of like

1105
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.800
<v Speaker 1>swamps and stuff in there, and you've got like the

1106
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Bridgewater Triangle right.

1107
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, weird area. I say what I said, there's got

1108
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to be. So when they when I went out with

1109
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 2>those people that I got linked up with, and you're

1110
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:35.599
<v Speaker 2>finding that big giant pile of muscleshells, Why is there

1111
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a pile of one hundred plus muffles with a giant

1112
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 2>imprint in the reeds?

1113
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Like this is right on the shore of a lake.

1114
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.519
<v Speaker 3>There's a giant imprint. You can see it.

1115
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I don't know, four feet wide, two

1116
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 2>foot you know deep, and it's just like what is that?

1117
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Like, what are they doing, like, I don't.

1118
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Are they here to like use resources like I mean,

1119
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I've heard plenty of stories where these Native Americans, you know,

1120
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 2>say they see them near granite walls and they just

1121
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.880
<v Speaker 2>disappear into a rock wall like, oh, they go through

1122
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>port like I don't know. And I think the thing

1123
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 2>is people try to put this thing into a category.

1124
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 2>There is no category. I'm if I had a best

1125
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:27.599
<v Speaker 2>guess of what the what they are. Is there something

1126
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that has been here and there's something that is beyond

1127
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 2>human comprehension. And I think that humans at one point,

1128
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

1129
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Believe what we've been told about.

1130
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>The history of the human race. I think the Bible

1131
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 2>has it mostly right. I think that it's also been manipulated.

1132
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's giant pieces missing there. The elites

1133
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that run the world don't want every normal person to

1134
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:05.880
<v Speaker 2>know where we came from. And it's all about power

1135
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and control.

1136
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we don't need to run cars on oil

1137
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and have Like the solar crap is stupid. It just

1138
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 3>pollutes more. All electric cars. Oh yeah, great, yeah, okay,

1139
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.559
<v Speaker 3>I bought a Tesla. Look how great I am.

1140
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is just a facade. The whole thing,

1141
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:26.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, I want to know it goes back

1142
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to the great forgetting. They talk about the great forgetting

1143
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 2>where obviously the Pyramids aren't just to.

1144
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Bury of Pharaoh. That's stupid.

1145
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Who builds that that? You can't build today and you

1146
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how it works. But it's all laser measured,

1147
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 2>can't put a piece of paper between it between each.

1148
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Of the rocks. But yet they did, Oh well, yeah, yeah, they.

1149
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Built that to put the fast No, we're being lied

1150
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:50.639
<v Speaker 2>to and I don't like it, and I want to

1151
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 2>know why we're being lied to. And these things have

1152
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 2>something to do with where we came from and who

1153
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.960
<v Speaker 2>we are, and I don't like that.

1154
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Certain people there's somebody, there's multiple.

1155
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 2>People on this planet right now that knows exactly what

1156
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>these things are. That's that's the sat vibe.

1157
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree with that one hundred percent. They're definitely

1158
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 1>individuals that have more knowledge about this subject than the

1159
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 1>general The general public for sure does. So you know,

1160
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you you experience all this stuff out when you're you're

1161
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 1>fishing in other places. Is it at the point where

1162
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it's also following you home? Like there's weird stuff that

1163
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:38.519
<v Speaker 1>happens at home as well.

1164
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I get to a point where I don't know if

1165
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it's paradolia or PARANOI I should say where I come

1166
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.639
<v Speaker 2>out at night, Like I've got to like this is embarrassing.

1167
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.880
<v Speaker 2>This has bothered me to the point where say, I'm alone,

1168
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.519
<v Speaker 2>like my girlfriends at our house and my mother lives

1169
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 2>with me.

1170
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 3>I own my own house. My mother lives with me.

1171
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I actually live in my childhood house. My long story short.

1172
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Because of reasons that my mother couldn't keep the house,

1173
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I had to step up.

1174
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And buy it.

1175
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 2>So I own the house that I grew up and

1176
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been here for thirty.

1177
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh was it, Yeah, thirty years. We moved here when

1178
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:32.119
<v Speaker 3>I was four, so I'm thirty four.

1179
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I've owned this house thirty years. There have been really

1180
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 2>weird things that have happened around here, but not lately

1181
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:49.760
<v Speaker 2>other than the fact that my buddy, well, the first

1182
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 2>weird thing I've ever noticed around And this is before

1183
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I got into the subject at all.

1184
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't care. And mind you, I was stationed in

1185
01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Fort Lewis.

1186
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 2>There's Class A reports on Fort Lewis. I didn't give

1187
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.559
<v Speaker 2>a crap up. Yeah, I didn't give a crap about that. Stuff.

1188
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I was in the army. I was twenty two, twenty three.

1189
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't care.

1190
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I was out drinking and partying with people. You know,

1191
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care that sasquat.

1192
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Bigfoot is in Washington. Uhuh, Like nobody cared.

1193
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.840
<v Speaker 2>So I lived in Bigfoot capital of the world and

1194
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care. And come back here and then, you know,

1195
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you get into the podcast a lot.

1196
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 3>But anyway to get back to it. When I was.

1197
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Younger, I was, I was in high school and I

1198
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I was fourteen fifteen, and me and my

1199
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 2>buddy were having a fire one time and were out

1200
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.920
<v Speaker 2>near the woods and like I said, this twelve hundred

1201
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and thirteen hundred because of the woods by my house.

1202
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.719
<v Speaker 2>And we didn't drink back then. You know, I was

1203
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 2>a late bloomer.

1204
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 3>We didn't smoke weed. We're just sitting there having a fire.

1205
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:55.400
<v Speaker 3>It was dead, quiet, was great.

1206
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.320
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, there's a you know, a twenty

1207
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.159
<v Speaker 2>foot sapling that's still sapling. It's still you know, it's

1208
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:06.119
<v Speaker 2>only like three inches at the base maple tree just shaking,

1209
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and this thing is screaming, just this god awful screaming.

1210
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And I had a you know back then, flashlight suck.

1211
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.360
<v Speaker 3>There's no like led real stuff back then, and whatever.

1212
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just like a stupid you know, three D CL

1213
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 2>maglight and I'm shining. There's nothing there, and I'm watching

1214
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 2>this tree went back and forth with this screaming, and

1215
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it moved across my guard without a seeing it and

1216
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 2>was got into the corner of the other part of

1217
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the ad. It's doing the same thing, and we're both

1218
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.400
<v Speaker 2>just standing up. We stood up, we'll watch and there's

1219
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 2>nothing there. And it just screamed and went off into

1220
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the woods.

1221
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.000
<v Speaker 3>And my friend was like, what the frick was that?

1222
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know, so we just it sounded

1223
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 2>like a dying goat, so we just called it the

1224
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:54.119
<v Speaker 2>goat beast and he was like whatever. And I can

1225
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 2>remember when I got out of the army. I was

1226
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, and I can with sitting at home and

1227
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in on the chair watching TV and

1228
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:05.960
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it sounded like somebody.

1229
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Back the truck into the house.

1230
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.719
<v Speaker 2>It was like boom, and the paintings on.

1231
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 3>The wall moved like the TV rattled.

1232
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 2>On the on the the cabinet. I go outside of

1233
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the flashlight, nothing there what was that? So years go by,

1234
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>now I have what happened to me happened, and nothing

1235
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.599
<v Speaker 2>remotely around, you know, within years and years with nothing

1236
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 2>happened on here. So I've had what happened.

1237
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.559
<v Speaker 3>To me, but not here. So excuse me.

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01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 2>My buddy is a really avid hunter.

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01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Not the guy that.

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01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I witnessed this with. This is another kid that I

1241
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 2>know that I met another job, and he's, you know,

1242
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 2>real into everything. He'll go to Maine, go bear hunting

1243
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Speaker 2>with dog with dogs, and go coon hunting all this stuff.

1244
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, Hey, that property behind your house that's

1245
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.760
<v Speaker 2>not posted. I said, no, She's like, you care if

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01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I use your Yeah, I don't pack my truck and

1247
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 2>go in there. I'm like, I don't care.

1248
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.039
<v Speaker 3>And sure I know. So he was going there.

1249
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 2>He was going in there four in the morning and

1250
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 2>he set up a tree stand. He come the next day.

1251
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm at work until he's seven o'clock. He's coming out

1252
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.159
<v Speaker 2>of there the other day. Off he goes, I am

1253
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:34.119
<v Speaker 2>never going in there again. I said, what happened? He goes, Dude,

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01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that was, but it sounded like

1255
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:43.159
<v Speaker 2>a bulldozer going through the woods, ripping trees down, smashing, screaming,

1256
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, did what did it sound like? He's like,

1257
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:49.199
<v Speaker 2>it's it was screaming.

1258
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:53.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like it was literally yards from me. It's like

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01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I had my headlight headlamp on it, and I'm watching

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01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the boy. It looked like Jurassic Pack when the raft

1262
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.119
<v Speaker 2>is a killing the cow and I'm like, well, what happened.

1263
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.319
<v Speaker 2>He's like, nothing, it took off and it was gone.

1264
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm never going in there again. And he's

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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:14.760
<v Speaker 2>never been back since. So other than that, the only

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01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 2>other thing I can think of was when I was

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01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 2>in high school, me and my buddy Dan, the other

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01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 2>one of my friend Dan he passed away. The other

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01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 2>friend Dan, we would go out fishing down these fire

1270
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:26.479
<v Speaker 2>roads where.

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01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 3>This stuff happened.

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01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.479
<v Speaker 2>And we would be on bicycles and we had, you know,

1273
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 2>we made a fishing rod holders out of PBC pipe

1274
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:37.119
<v Speaker 2>and we'd zip uh what do you call it, the

1275
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 2>host clamp them to the frame of the bike and stuff,

1276
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:41.520
<v Speaker 2>and you'd have rod holders and we go out to

1277
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 2>these places. I remember getting ahead of him one day

1278
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and I turned around and realized he's not there, so

1279
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I stopped and I'm going Dan Dan, and our rock

1280
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 2>hit the back.

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01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Wheel of the bicycle.

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01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.840
<v Speaker 2>While I'm turned around, I watched it hit the fire

1283
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and hit the.

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01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Ground, and I'm like okay. So I turn.

1285
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Around and I go back and he's about one hundred

1286
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.800
<v Speaker 2>foot back and his chain fell off. So I'm like,

1287
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:13.159
<v Speaker 2>what do you did you do a rocky?

1288
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:17.439
<v Speaker 3>He's like no. I'm like, okay, well what no, my

1289
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 3>chain fell off. I was like, oh, so he's screwing

1290
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 3>with that. He didn't, And that was it. So these

1291
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.720
<v Speaker 3>things have been there. I've had a really the other

1292
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.560
<v Speaker 3>thing I can think of. I used to drive a rig.

1293
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to drive the Stoton Mass It took me

1294
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 2>about an hour and one day I had to leave

1295
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 2>at like four in the morning. I used to have

1296
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.720
<v Speaker 2>to drive the Lebanon, New Hampshire to go pick up

1297
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 2>a load, and.

1298
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I left here at four and I'm driving my pickup.

1299
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And I remember watching this. It just looked like a shadow.

1300
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:54.560
<v Speaker 2>It was just it was the shape of a human,

1301
01:10:55.399 --> 01:11:00.279
<v Speaker 2>huge and it was so black that it absorbed light.

1302
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:01.039
<v Speaker 3>It was weird.

1303
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:03.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, like at night when you go out, your

1304
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 2>headlights suck more because the back when the road's wet,

1305
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:08.560
<v Speaker 2>it's blacker, and it just the headlights.

1306
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.600
<v Speaker 3>And that that's what it looked like.

1307
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Is just walked across the road and it was a

1308
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.760
<v Speaker 2>ways up though, and you're like, okay, And this is

1309
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 2>before I was even into any of this stuff, so

1310
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 2>it didn't matter in me. I'm like, okay, yeah, what

1311
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:21.720
<v Speaker 2>was that.

1312
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm too tired, I don't care. I

1313
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:24.359
<v Speaker 3>don't want to go to work.

1314
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 2>This sucks.

1315
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And that was it.

1316
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 2>So there has been weird things that have happened in

1317
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:34.159
<v Speaker 2>my house, but for some reason, these things, I feel

1318
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 2>like I haven't gone back to any of these places

1319
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.720
<v Speaker 2>after they screwed me. And it's almost like, I don't know,

1320
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it sounds dumb, but it's almost like they're respecting me

1321
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.439
<v Speaker 2>by not screwing with me where I live.

1322
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because they have to have some type

1323
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 3>of not empathy, but not respect.

1324
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't think of the word. But they

1325
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:07.840
<v Speaker 2>are not vindict These ones around here are not vindictive.

1326
01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:11.039
<v Speaker 2>They're not vengeful seeking, they're not trying to ruin my life.

1327
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I do get creeped out though, coming out here at night.

1328
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean the other oh yeah, the other night, I'm

1329
01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:17.640
<v Speaker 2>sitting out here, I come out.

1330
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't sleep. I haven't saw him yet.

1331
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:24.159
<v Speaker 2>It's from the war, from just stress. I just I

1332
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:26.800
<v Speaker 2>push it to the limit every every time, I just gotta.

1333
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to be dead tired and just hit this

1334
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.760
<v Speaker 2>wall and then I'm like, okay, I'm going to bed.

1335
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>So I have a back porch that's one hundred feet

1336
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.239
<v Speaker 2>from the woods, and I have a little table with

1337
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.079
<v Speaker 2>an umbrella, and I came out to smoke a cigarette

1338
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's dead quiet. All of a sudden, I hearaboom,

1339
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and this massive tree fell mount and then I kept

1340
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.119
<v Speaker 2>hearing weird voice, like we could hear mumbled voices, and

1341
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.279
<v Speaker 2>then it just stopped. So we did just have a

1342
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.880
<v Speaker 2>big storm come through. A bunch of trees came down.

1343
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, okay, was it that or is it

1344
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 2>just is it these things and they pushed the tree

1345
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.359
<v Speaker 2>down or is it me being paranoid and it was

1346
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:18.640
<v Speaker 2>just a tree that was ready to fall because of

1347
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the wind. I don't know, but there's definitely been really

1348
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.399
<v Speaker 2>weird things around here. Another thing is and it kind

1349
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of got me another little kid part of my yard

1350
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.720
<v Speaker 2>now that's et our yard anymore. It's all woods now

1351
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 2>and it goes up to the main road. It was

1352
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a field when I was a kid. My dad would

1353
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:43.560
<v Speaker 2>mow it and the grass would get up about three

1354
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 2>hot foot high full for high, and my dad would

1355
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.159
<v Speaker 2>mow it. Well. Then we gave up on it. But

1356
01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember being a little kid walking up there and

1357
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:54.880
<v Speaker 2>there would be these big impressions in the in the

1358
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:58.920
<v Speaker 2>high grass, huge, and there would always be a turred

1359
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of it, like a big one, like

1360
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 2>it looked like a really really big human tard.

1361
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 3>And they'd be like, oh, I mean.

1362
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.319
<v Speaker 2>And my friend would be hanging on me like what's

1363
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.359
<v Speaker 2>that and be like, oh, that's where.

1364
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 3>A deer was.

1365
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.560
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, what's that And he's like, oh,

1366
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:16.199
<v Speaker 2>let's put a geerpoop.

1367
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:20.279
<v Speaker 3>And You're like okay, But what was it? I don't know.

1368
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 3>For all I know was a hobo that was just

1369
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:22.960
<v Speaker 3>coming and crap.

1370
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1371
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:26.560
<v Speaker 3>It was just weird. It's just one of those weird things.

1372
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 2>And my father I remember him waking me up. He's

1373
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.039
<v Speaker 2>passed away, but I might have been like eight or nine.

1374
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:35.199
<v Speaker 2>He came to my room early on a Sunday morning.

1375
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 2>He goes, hey, did you hear that.

1376
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I said no.

1377
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 2>He said, the son of like a Clydesdale running too

1378
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the ad.

1379
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I said, no, I didn't hear anything.

1380
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:46.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like I could feel it in my bed.

1381
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:48.359
<v Speaker 3>I said, what do you mean.

1382
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like I could feel the the something in my

1383
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.560
<v Speaker 2>bed on the second floor, which is now my room.

1384
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm okay. I'm like, no, I didn't mean.

1385
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 3>He's like that was strange, and I don't know. And

1386
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 3>that was it. But there's been weird stuff and.

1387
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the dogs just lose their minds. Oh and

1388
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the other thing I wanted to tell you that rock

1389
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that it threw in the bed of the truck that

1390
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 2>one time at Halfway Pond. When I got home, I

1391
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:26.039
<v Speaker 2>was curious. So I got a Jack Russell and a beagle.

1392
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:29.720
<v Speaker 2>And the beagle is like kind of like a vegetable.

1393
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I adopted her. She was like a breeder dog.

1394
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Some piece of craft just used her to pump out

1395
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:37.039
<v Speaker 2>puppies and left her in a kennel.

1396
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:38.279
<v Speaker 3>So she's kind of like out of it.

1397
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 2>But the jack Russell, the male's I've had him since

1398
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a puppy. He's a very smart dog. I took the

1399
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.439
<v Speaker 2>rock and I went to see what he'd do, and

1400
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I put it down on the ground, on the on

1401
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the floor in the living room. He went over to it,

1402
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.880
<v Speaker 2>smelled it, and went right in.

1403
01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.119
<v Speaker 3>His crate and he just sat there and looked at me.

1404
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 3>That's not normal. He was freaked out. I don't and

1405
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:07.560
<v Speaker 3>everyone's like, oh, yeah, whatever, No, he looked. He was fine.

1406
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:09.520
<v Speaker 2>His wagon sailor came up to me. He was happy,

1407
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 2>and he's fine. He loves to see me.

1408
01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I just said here and I put that rock down.

1409
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.279
<v Speaker 2>He smelled it and he went nope, and he went

1410
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:17.520
<v Speaker 2>right in the crate and sat there.

1411
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 3>So what was that? I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

1412
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just telling you what I have witnessed.

1413
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.000
<v Speaker 2>So the problem with this subject is you instantly get

1414
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:35.279
<v Speaker 2>labeled a fruit gig and it sucks, especially around here,

1415
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like you know this, this doesn't happen here, absolutely well

1416
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.079
<v Speaker 2>because not, Yeah.

1417
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think personally it happens there are

1418
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 1>just people are scared out of their minds to be labeled,

1419
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:52.600
<v Speaker 1>as you just said, and no one talks about it. That.

1420
01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 1>That's personally what I think, but me.

1421
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Too, well, like when you listen to you talk about

1422
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the off and then you listen because you and Wesden

1423
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.319
<v Speaker 2>only to I listened to they talk about you both

1424
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:08.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about down well not YouTube, but like the people

1425
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you're interview down South, I mean they got booger, hollow booger,

1426
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.600
<v Speaker 2>this watch out for the buggers. All these people they

1427
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:19.760
<v Speaker 2>were raised around it, but it was still taboo to

1428
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:20.439
<v Speaker 2>talk about it.

1429
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not like Washington State.

1430
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Where it's like, oh yeah, it's like a.

1431
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Commercial thing here this place.

1432
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Out of everywhere, this is the number one no no zone.

1433
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.279
<v Speaker 3>You do not talk about it here. This is you

1434
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:36.760
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

1435
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, God. You don't get many responses when you

1436
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:47.439
<v Speaker 1>when you go around talking to people out in that

1437
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:50.760
<v Speaker 1>area of New England, for sure. Is it a thing

1438
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 1>where you want these interactions to stop or or you're

1439
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:57.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of okay with them.

1440
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:03.720
<v Speaker 2>This is a weird feeling I get, and I don't

1441
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.399
<v Speaker 2>know if it's based on reality or not, but what

1442
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming is this that one time it showed itself

1443
01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:14.600
<v Speaker 2>behind it in a walk behind the truck and Dan

1444
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.760
<v Speaker 2>saw it and I didn't. I'm jealous of him in

1445
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:23.239
<v Speaker 2>a weird way because it's what I want. My mind

1446
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.279
<v Speaker 2>can't make itself up. I mean, I've seen their eyes,

1447
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the outline of them, I've seen the cloud

1448
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.920
<v Speaker 2>weird thing that I can't explain that makes no sense.

1449
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.079
<v Speaker 3>But if I had a face to face encounter at

1450
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.119
<v Speaker 3>twenty feet, I don't know what I would do. I

1451
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:38.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

1452
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't I'd probably pass out. I don't know, I

1453
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:46.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I don't. But yet, the other part

1454
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of my brain's like, you want that, you want to

1455
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:54.760
<v Speaker 2>see one. You want to just have that final piece

1456
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 2>of proof where it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks

1457
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.159
<v Speaker 2>because it's for you. But I'm like, well, in my head,

1458
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I already got to that point.

1459
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm already there.

1460
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just the thing is, what I saw could be

1461
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>labeled as anybody else in the industry could be like, Okay,

1462
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:19.000
<v Speaker 2>so did you actually see a seven foot tall sasquatch.

1463
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Standing in front of you?

1464
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:19.640
<v Speaker 2>No?

1465
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:20.199
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

1466
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, then how do you know it's not a demon?

1467
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:24.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you know it's not a ghost? How do

1468
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:24.920
<v Speaker 2>you not?

1469
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that, But I'm ninety percent sure that's

1470
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 3>what that.

1471
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Frick it is, because it doesn't it lines up with that.

1472
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:35.039
<v Speaker 3>It couldn't be.

1473
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not skin walker, it's not a you know, obviously,

1474
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely not a freaking bear. So none of it

1475
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.479
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. So I have a gut feeling that if

1476
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I went out tonight for some reason, like I said,

1477
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.239
<v Speaker 2>being aware of these things, it's almost like the more

1478
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you invite this into your life, the more you're going.

1479
01:19:57.960 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 1>To see it.

1480
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:03.880
<v Speaker 3>So if I had a little bit more.

1481
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Will power or well balls, I'd go out there tonight

1482
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.479
<v Speaker 2>and I'd sit out there for the last place that's

1483
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.640
<v Speaker 2>happened with me and Dan, and I would sit there

1484
01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and they would come.

1485
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:19.359
<v Speaker 3>They would come.

1486
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact they would come because.

1487
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:25.079
<v Speaker 3>It has nothing to really do with him.

1488
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm there now, they know I'm aware of them,

1489
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and they're aware of me. So if I want to

1490
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.319
<v Speaker 2>see one, I'm going to see one. Do I want

1491
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:37.640
<v Speaker 2>to No, not right now, but yet I do. But

1492
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.399
<v Speaker 2>I want that thing that everybody else gets. It'd be

1493
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.399
<v Speaker 2>nice to be like I was driving to work and

1494
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.199
<v Speaker 2>I saw one of these things walk right in front

1495
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.560
<v Speaker 2>of me. Did I kind of see that a little bit,

1496
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:48.760
<v Speaker 2>but it was just a big giant shadow.

1497
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:49.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that was.

1498
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to see hair eyes, you know, the shine

1499
01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.359
<v Speaker 2>from the eyes. I want to see its mouth open.

1500
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I want to see it's I want to see. But

1501
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:04.960
<v Speaker 2>in a car driving, if I'm out in the woods

1502
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.079
<v Speaker 2>where I used to go and one of these things

1503
01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:11.720
<v Speaker 2>is there, I don't think that I'm quite ready for that.

1504
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:16.720
<v Speaker 2>But then again, I've been listening to these shows for

1505
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.920
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and I've been listening to these interviews

1506
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and very rarely have I ever

1507
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>heard of them actually hurting anybody.

1508
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:28.159
<v Speaker 3>I have heard it.

1509
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just extremely rare. And again it goes back to

1510
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.880
<v Speaker 2>what they did to me, and I saw how great

1511
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>they are with throwing. If they wanted to kill me,

1512
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 2>they would have killed me already. I'm kind of yeah,

1513
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.279
<v Speaker 2>they could have easily, especially that one rock dude, that

1514
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.880
<v Speaker 2>was the size of freaking basketball. I don't know how

1515
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I told you know, you've got to be careful who

1516
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you open up to about this stuff, So you kind

1517
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of find a friend that's open to certain things, like

1518
01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.000
<v Speaker 2>do you believe in aliens?

1519
01:21:58.239 --> 01:21:58.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1520
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I wouldn't it, And I have a whole

1521
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.479
<v Speaker 3>nother theory in aliens. I don't think they're actually.

1522
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>That good, But anyway, you try to open up the

1523
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:11.479
<v Speaker 2>people and then I'm like, no, what are you doing.

1524
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.199
<v Speaker 3>You're like, okay, you know what, never mind, I'm done.

1525
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, like there's no point.

1526
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of it's almost like living I'll put

1527
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:27.399
<v Speaker 2>it this way. I'm sure other veterans could relate to this,

1528
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.439
<v Speaker 2>or cops or anybody that's been through something really really bad.

1529
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You are the only person, most likely in your immediate

1530
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>family or group setting, work setting, whatever, that's gonna know

1531
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:43.600
<v Speaker 2>what you went through, and you're gonna be the only

1532
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:48.880
<v Speaker 2>person that has had that experience. So it's you kind

1533
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:52.199
<v Speaker 2>of feel like an outcast because no one else is

1534
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you. Now you add this into it, this

1535
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>is fairytale stuff to people. This is yeah, yeah, yeah,

1536
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.560
<v Speaker 2>one of your nuts. Just go where you're drinking.

1537
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:05.720
<v Speaker 3>No, and like every other thing.

1538
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anybody that's hallucinated off of drink, So

1539
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, It's kind of like once you

1540
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:14.840
<v Speaker 2>get it, and this is kind of like a curse.

1541
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not a horrible, evil curse that it's like ruined

1542
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.399
<v Speaker 2>your life. I mean, I'm sure that there are people

1543
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.800
<v Speaker 2>that actually have had this ruin their life. I mean

1544
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.600
<v Speaker 2>in a way it is, I guess to me because

1545
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I can't go in the wood by myself anymore, so

1546
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess it did kind of, but I'm not going

1547
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>to dwell on it. It's just one of my hobbies.

1548
01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Went down the toilet, right, That's all I can, yeah say.

1549
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>It definitely affects different people in different ways, sometimes way

1550
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>worse than others. And it is interesting how there's seems

1551
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to be a pattern where, you know, people that have

1552
01:23:54.039 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 1>had some heavy traumatic Oh no way, really, Oh man,

1553
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I can.

1554
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Your call has been forwarded.

1555
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:18.239
<v Speaker 1>This is the wildest interview of all time. Let's try again.

1556
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message.

1557
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:34.159
<v Speaker 4>Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Seven.

1558
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there goes the phone again, Jordan. That was really.

1559
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, there's no way that just happened. Again,

1560
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Holy mackerel.

1561
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did, Okay, that was that was on my landline. Dude,

1562
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>There's no way that, dude. Listen, I've lived here for

1563
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.520
<v Speaker 2>thirty years. That is the same phone number I've had.

1564
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:01.079
<v Speaker 2>That's not the same phone. That phone has been in

1565
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the same spot for three decades. I have never ever

1566
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:10.279
<v Speaker 2>had this happen ever, in my entire life. And the

1567
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>phone again when I when you cut out, I looked

1568
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>at it. It never hung up. Well, it kept counting,

1569
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>It kept counting the minutes, the phone never went and nothing.

1570
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's it's so weird, you man, you definitely have

1571
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>some pretty intense stuff going on. I mean, that's one

1572
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.319
<v Speaker 1>way to look at it. I would I would say

1573
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>there's probably some intense stuff going on. Oh man, I

1574
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1575
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.079
<v Speaker 2>So here's my question to you. You've been doing this

1576
01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot longer than me, and you've known a lot.

1577
01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>You have heard. There's stuff I haven't even fully touched

1578
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 2>your whole catalog of what you've done. Okay, so you've

1579
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:53.319
<v Speaker 2>heard everything and everything. Okay, what do you really make

1580
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of that phone?

1581
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Usually? What so I hear from an a lot of

1582
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:06.279
<v Speaker 1>other podcasters that have phone issues and usually so that's

1583
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the weird thing because usually when it happens on my

1584
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.319
<v Speaker 1>show is they're starting to talk about the person is

1585
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>starting to talk about we're more fringe topics like giants

1586
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>or nephylum or stuff where it's like they you know,

1587
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they in quotation marks, really don't want that out there.

1588
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:33.239
<v Speaker 1>So it's weird though, because you know yours. You haven't been.

1589
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just I can't figure it out. You know,

1590
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's very.

1591
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:42.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because, yes it is. I think it's

1592
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>because this is a very wealthy area and there's a

1593
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.479
<v Speaker 2>lot of money around here. I mean, you got the cape,

1594
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you got like I work and wear him, so you

1595
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:58.159
<v Speaker 2>got on set all that stuff. Rochester, where I live,

1596
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>we don't even have a street like dude, like there's

1597
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>like they keep this, Yeah, they keep this. The houses

1598
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>around here are going for. This used to be like

1599
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a redneck town. There was a blue collar town. Now

1600
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.199
<v Speaker 2>it's all doctors and lawyers that work in Boston that

1601
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, they don't mind driving an hour to work

1602
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>or they remotely work. So this became a very ritzy town.

1603
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I live in a very ritzy town, and it was

1604
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>not like that when I was a child at all.

1605
01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:32.159
<v Speaker 2>So I'm wondering if money has to do with this.

1606
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I get really frustrated with what's going on because obviously

1607
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the world's not the way it's supposed to be, and

1608
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:40.079
<v Speaker 2>obviously we've been lied to. I mean, you can get

1609
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.600
<v Speaker 2>into what's going on on the I mean, the news

1610
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.439
<v Speaker 2>is full of the news is garbage anyways. But you

1611
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.439
<v Speaker 2>look at you know, I voted for Trump now now,

1612
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:53.239
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, we're gonna get the files now, Oh nope,

1613
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.319
<v Speaker 2>they don't need to. So what are you hiding? What

1614
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>do you what are you all playing this game? You

1615
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>all hold these secrets to the world, and where as

1616
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:06.439
<v Speaker 2>a human human race, we're not allowed. We're not we're

1617
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 2>not worthy of knowing all this stuff. So what I

1618
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's getting through is the veil is getting really thin. Yeah,

1619
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>and people are starting to wake up and they don't

1620
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>like it, and it's scaring them because now you know

1621
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they did they played the left and the right, and

1622
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:27.479
<v Speaker 2>now people are starting to go, hey, they screwed me over. Yeah,

1623
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>they screwed me too. Well really exactly. Oh well, oh geez, well,

1624
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I don't hate you anymore. I think

1625
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>we have this common enemy. Oh really, that's the common enemy.

1626
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>It's the people that hold the secrets. And I don't

1627
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 2>like it and it bothers meself. I'm not afraid of them.

1628
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid of them.

1629
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's wild, wild stuff, Jordan, and man, like

1630
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:55.119
<v Speaker 1>you're I can percent say, like your your story is

1631
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.359
<v Speaker 1>not just in the past thing like, there's probably going

1632
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to be stuff that continue to happen.

1633
01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>If I went out right now, if I went out

1634
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.039
<v Speaker 2>right to where I was at and I stayed till dusk,

1635
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have something happen to me. And that's

1636
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>what I know, and that's what stops me from doing it.

1637
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's not paranoia anymore. It's a fact,

1638
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's just a fact that

1639
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that's what sucks, dude. And I'm stuck now. So when

1640
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to go fishing, I have to go in

1641
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>highly public areas because they won't do it there. So

1642
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, I got to drive down to the

1643
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>So I don't care who I've already you know, I've

1644
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>already gaven away a bunch of places. So around here,

1645
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody goes to this place called the Lakes, and that's

1646
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>down in Lakeville Middleborough Line, and it's technically one big lake,

1647
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>but they divided it with a causeway and it's the

1648
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>quitt Kiss Little quitt Kiss ask a WM set that stuff.

1649
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>If I go out, that's where that stuff happened. And

1650
01:29:57.199 --> 01:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>if I go out there right now, because these things

1651
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>know im, I'm aware of them, I'm going to have

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01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff happen to me and I don't want it to.

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01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I'm a prisoner. So it's like

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01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I work all day, I work hard, I do a good,

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01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.159
<v Speaker 2>honest living, and all I want to do is have

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01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>my peace, and I can't have that anymore. And I

1657
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think they really mean harm like I said, but

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01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:26.119
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's still enough to startle you and just

1659
01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:28.439
<v Speaker 2>to be like, I'm done. I don't know what to do.

1660
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I even actually called one of my sergeants from the army.

1661
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I won't mention his name, but he grew up in Oklahoma.

1662
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty sure it's not Cherokee's chalk Dow.

1663
01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:41.279
<v Speaker 2>And I asked him what to do, and he goes,

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01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>You've got to go out there and leave him something

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01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and then they'll leave you alone. And I'm like really,

1666
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.159
<v Speaker 2>he goes, yep. I said, okay. Well, even at that,

1667
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I still don't want to risk it. You know.

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01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, different people definitely have. You know, that's one that's

1669
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:02.399
<v Speaker 1>one thing that does usually come up. Some people will

1670
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.159
<v Speaker 1>even you know, use prayer, use the name of Jesus

1671
01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Christ in order to say, okay, leave me alone and

1672
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they'll use it. It's really you know, different people end

1673
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.359
<v Speaker 1>up using different things and it has a lot to

1674
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:19.399
<v Speaker 1>do of like, Okay, what are you putting your faith in.

1675
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange, but different things do seem to have

1676
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, different different things work for different people. It's

1677
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:34.359
<v Speaker 1>very strange the stories that you hear. But I think

1678
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know you don't want things to happen,

1679
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>so you're not going out. But it man, imagine if

1680
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you could get to the point where you could kind

1681
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:47.039
<v Speaker 1>of stop things from happening and then you could go

1682
01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the woods again, right or fishing.

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01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just why are they choosing to Because where I

1684
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.439
<v Speaker 2>go there's people out there at night all the time.

1685
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>They're not get involved. So it's it's strange, and it

1686
01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>comes down back to I'm aware of them, and they

1687
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>know that I'm aware of them, so then they're going

1688
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to make their presence known and then I go, okay,

1689
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>it's time to go. And what that Native American sergeant

1690
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I had told me was basically, you know they are

1691
01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>aware of you, and you're aware of them, and now

1692
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.159
<v Speaker 2>you both know each other, and now they want you

1693
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to leave because they're there to do their thing. They're

1694
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>there to grab fish, they're there to grab muscles, are

1695
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:39.880
<v Speaker 2>there to get their their energy or their you know,

1696
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.279
<v Speaker 2>gathering whatever, and they want you out. And okay, so

1697
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.199
<v Speaker 2>why don't you do that to everybody? Why aren't you

1698
01:32:46.319 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>doing that to other people that are there fishing late

1699
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.439
<v Speaker 2>at night. I talked to plenty of guys in the night,

1700
01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>say hey, you go down there at night? Yeah, anything happen? Nope, Okay,

1701
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's just really weird. Why I'm the one that's

1702
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>getting bothered. It just it makes no sense.

1703
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Jordan, what what a conversation. I mean I never would

1704
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 1>have thought just stuff like you're experiencing is going on

1705
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>in that corner of Massachusetts. I mean, I'm so glad

1706
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that we got connected and that you were able to

1707
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.159
<v Speaker 1>to share what you experienced over the years. And you know, please,

1708
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, if stuff does happen in the future, you know,

1709
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>please feel free to reach out if you have any updates.

1710
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, just just such an interesting story. It's intense,

1711
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and man, I hope the best best for you with

1712
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:46.239
<v Speaker 1>all this. I think you're going to get a handle

1713
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>on it even more than you do now. Yeah, for sure.

1714
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Well I hope I do. I just I don't. I

1715
01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm it's still fresh, dude, I don't think

1716
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I can it's still there. I don't think that I'm

1717
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be alone in the woods anytime soon. Definitely

1718
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>not at night. That's the thing. I'll go out, I'll

1719
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.439
<v Speaker 2>go out, you know. I mean, here's the other thing.

1720
01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Me and Dan.

1721
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Went out in May and looked for antlers and he

1722
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:21.720
<v Speaker 2>had a gun on them and we were out in

1723
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>those same woods and nothing happened. So there's one instance

1724
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:30.479
<v Speaker 2>where nothing happened, and I pushed my anxiety level to

1725
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the max and we you know, we separated and I

1726
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>don't own the firearm and nothing happened. It's okay, there's

1727
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
<v Speaker 2>one instance, but I'm not going to make it a

1728
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:43.399
<v Speaker 2>regular thing. I'll get a handle on it and it

1729
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>will be good. I just again, like you said, that's

1730
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>something you don't hear from here. And and I hope

1731
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>at least this. I hope that if somebody listens to this,

1732
01:34:57.439 --> 01:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that's there's going to be people that listen to this

1733
01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.479
<v Speaker 2>knows exactly what I'm talking about. There, there's gonna be

1734
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>people that are that listen to your show, Like I

1735
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>know where that is I know where that is. I

1736
01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>know where that is, and hopefully one of them has

1737
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.760
<v Speaker 2>had something where I can listen to a future show

1738
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, I listened to that guy Jordan

1739
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:22.520
<v Speaker 2>that came on and he gave me the inspiration to

1740
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:25.399
<v Speaker 2>come on and say this. That way I can hear

1741
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it and know that I'm not totally freaking nutscent.

1742
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And I love when when that works and people pretty

1743
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>much encourage other people to come on and ends up

1744
01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>helping them and it's a it's a back and forth.

1745
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.039
<v Speaker 1>But man, Jordan, thank you so much for coming on

1746
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the show. We will definitely be in touch. Yeah, thank

1747
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you so much for reaching out. Dude, no promn Thanks

1748
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>for listening to another episode of Bigfoot Society. And also

1749
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a special thanks to Jordan from Massachusetts, whose episode actually

1750
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:03.119
<v Speaker 1>in real time, took hours and hours in order to

1751
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>be recorded, but was well worth it in the end.

1752
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>To those that are listening to the show that might

1753
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:13.079
<v Speaker 1>not want this to continue, hey, thanks for listening and

1754
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you'll be messing up future interviews as well.

1755
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.399
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1756
01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to. And

1757
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>share it with a friend. And if you've had a

1758
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot encounter yourself, please reach out to me through the

1759
01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. I'd love to

1760
01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:37.159
<v Speaker 1>talk to you. Also, if you have a minute, please

1761
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>rate the show five star positive review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1762
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:47.119
<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to the show. Thanks again for being

1763
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.439
<v Speaker 1>part of the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your

1764
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.199
<v Speaker 1>eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what

1765
01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:54.439
<v Speaker 1>else might be out there? And see you in the woods.
