Speaker 1: You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 1: Today's episode is a conversation with Jordan from the southeast
Speaker 1: corner of Massachusetts. This is an extremely interesting conversation that
Speaker 1: as it goes along becomes quite evident someone does not
Speaker 1: want it to happen. So please enjoy this conversation about
Speaker 1: what exactly is going on in the Plymouth area of Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: And thanks for listening all I pick the Society. You've
Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to Jordan today. Jordan's an
Speaker 1: individual from the Plymouth mass area or Massachusetts. It's also
Speaker 1: an Army veteran as well. Jordan, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your service and how are you doing today, sir, Oh, no.
Speaker 2: Problem, and I'm doing great and got out of work early.
Speaker 2: I planned for this and I can't wait to talk
Speaker 2: to you for a bit.
Speaker 1: It's very very rare to have individuals from Massachusetts in
Speaker 1: New England on the show. As I grew up in
Speaker 1: western mass so I know it is a very tight
Speaker 1: lipped state when it comes to things like this. But
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan, I want to make sure that you
Speaker 1: have the time to share what you've come prepared to
Speaker 1: share today, so feel free to take the floor is yours,
Speaker 1: and you're welcome to take us back to when things
Speaker 1: started happening to you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, I worked at a trucking company a few years ago,
Speaker 2: over five years ago, and one of the forklift operators
Speaker 2: I started hanging out with. He's older than me, he's
Speaker 2: like fifty five now, and we had a big, what
Speaker 2: do you call it hobby together, fishing. So we started
Speaker 2: talking about it and stuff, and he had a little,
Speaker 2: you know, a bass buggy boat something that just slides
Speaker 2: into the back of a pickup truck with the slow seats.
Speaker 2: And we hadn't talked for a while, we hadn't hung
Speaker 2: out and stuff, and eventually just started fishing. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't until after I started my other job. So he goes, hey,
Speaker 2: have you ever fished down in Plymouth area? I said no,
Speaker 2: not really. I said, I you know, usually go to
Speaker 2: other ponds and stuff, you know, walking distance stuff. I'd
Speaker 2: usually fish from shore there. He goes, well, you can
Speaker 2: go with me, and he said all right. So we
Speaker 2: go out to the pond and I don't know if
Speaker 2: I should mention where the pond.
Speaker 3: Is or not, but.
Speaker 2: It's I'd never been there.
Speaker 3: It was in Plymouth. It was a really long dirt
Speaker 3: road to get down there.
Speaker 2: And if you go down the dirt road comes to
Speaker 2: a fork. If you go left, there's you know, maybe
Speaker 2: ten houses on that side.
Speaker 3: Of the lake.
Speaker 2: The right side of the lake, there's only two mansions
Speaker 2: down the very very very end, like another mile down,
Speaker 2: so it's very secluded. So he goes, okay, well we'll
Speaker 2: go there and I'll pick you up at three in
Speaker 2: the morning and we'll get down there. You know, we'll
Speaker 2: get set up and we should be fishing, you know,
Speaker 2: by four o'clock. And this was in August of twenty three,
Speaker 2: so you know, he told me there's a lot of
Speaker 2: small mouths in there, and you know there's big fish,
Speaker 2: and it should be great time, clean.
Speaker 3: Water, blah blah blah. So he picks me up in.
Speaker 2: His try out of the truck he's got the boat
Speaker 2: in there, and go down the dirt road and it's
Speaker 2: a one lane road around this pond, so you got
Speaker 2: to offload the boat and then you got to go
Speaker 2: park it. And there's a couple of little tiny parking
Speaker 2: spots cut out in the woods.
Speaker 3: So it's dark it's pitch black. I got a headlamp on.
Speaker 2: He parks the truck, get the boat out and pull
Speaker 2: it on the ground, and he's like, I gotta go
Speaker 2: park the truck.
Speaker 3: I said, all right. So he pulls away.
Speaker 2: I watch him dry and he's probably one hundred feet
Speaker 2: away from me, and I can see the truck and
Speaker 2: he pulls it in one of the spots and I'm
Speaker 2: just standing there listening to the bugs, crickets, frogs, and
Speaker 2: I'm just looking in the water. The water's perfect, it's
Speaker 2: crystal clear. And a rock flew by my face, like
Speaker 2: probably exercise of a golf ball, and I'm like, that
Speaker 2: was weird, And you know, I don't know what to think.
Speaker 2: So he's walking back towards me and he's got his
Speaker 2: hands in his park. He parks the truck. I see
Speaker 2: the brake lights go off. I see everything go off.
Speaker 2: He's coming towards me. He's got his head lamp on
Speaker 2: and he's got his hands in his pockets. And I said,
Speaker 2: did you throw a rock? Like I don't know why,
Speaker 2: Like I shouldn't asked him that because how could he?
Speaker 3: But I'm like, did you throw a rock?
Speaker 2: He's like, what are you talking about I said, you
Speaker 2: threw a rock at me or something. He goes, dude, whatever, no,
Speaker 2: And another.
Speaker 3: One flew right in front of my face.
Speaker 2: So I shine in my light around and to my
Speaker 2: left is the pond, and to my right is just
Speaker 2: straight blueberry bushes, briers, just.
Speaker 3: Swamped like with treat you can't see through it.
Speaker 2: So he's like, dude, what was that? I said, he
Speaker 2: saw the second one? I said, I don't know, dude.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, let's get out of here. So we
Speaker 2: get in the boat. And as we're going out, you know,
Speaker 2: he's only got a little troller motor on electric motive.
Speaker 2: The rocks are coming NonStop, and they're as we're moving.
Speaker 2: They're falling all around the bow of the boat.
Speaker 3: They never touched the boat, and the boat is a
Speaker 3: square boat.
Speaker 2: It's like a Pelican gator or something like that, and
Speaker 2: all these rocks are just going around the front of
Speaker 2: the boat. As we're moving. I'm getting wet. These rocks
Speaker 2: are hitting the water. I'm getting wet. We finally get
Speaker 2: out fire enough and it stops, and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: was that.
Speaker 3: He's I don't no.
Speaker 2: So all then this weird rooster sound started.
Speaker 3: It didn't.
Speaker 2: It sounded like somebody in a deep voice mimicking a rooster,
Speaker 2: and it didn't sound.
Speaker 3: Right at all.
Speaker 2: And I had a five thousand loomin flashlight in my
Speaker 2: tackle bag, so I pull it out and I'm shining
Speaker 2: on the shore and there's nothing there at all, nothing,
Speaker 2: And as we're fishing and it's getting daylight out, there's
Speaker 2: no more rocks the rest of that day. But the
Speaker 2: rooster call sound sounded like it would be one hundred
Speaker 2: feet from shore and then a mile away, and then
Speaker 2: a hundred feet from shore, then a mile away, and
Speaker 2: it did it all the way until the sun started
Speaker 2: breaking through really and we fished the rest of the
Speaker 2: day and it got really hot, and there was we
Speaker 2: didn't actually I don't think. I don't even remember catching anything.
Speaker 2: And we get back to the truck we loaded the boat,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's up with those rocks. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, it's probably just some hobo or
Speaker 2: some you know, somebody around here. Maybe it's one of
Speaker 2: the people that live in the house. They don't want
Speaker 2: us around here.
Speaker 3: And then we'd let it go.
Speaker 2: So a week or two goes by and it is
Speaker 2: still August of twenty three. We uh, he calls me up.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, you want to go down there. I said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll go down there. And you know, I'm not worried
Speaker 2: about the it's not my truck going down there. If
Speaker 2: you get rocks hitting your truck, I don't here, you know.
Speaker 2: So we go back down there, and there was a
Speaker 2: big storm coming and we shouldn't have went, but we
Speaker 2: did anyway, And we go out there and we got there.
Speaker 2: This time it was in the afternoon. So we got
Speaker 2: there probably around four or five in the afternoon, and
Speaker 2: we go out, we fish, catch a couple of fish,
Speaker 2: nothing great, whatever. The sky goes black like black black,
Speaker 2: like the the lightning the rain. We're trying to get
Speaker 2: back across the pond, and the boat's actually like like
Speaker 2: the boat actually had like two inches of water in
Speaker 2: it by the time we got back in.
Speaker 3: I mean, we shouldn't have, but that was stupid. So
Speaker 3: you get in.
Speaker 2: Now we're rushing. We're rushing to get the boat in
Speaker 2: the truck to strap it down, and as we're doing it,
Speaker 2: rocks are flying in again. And it always waits like
Speaker 2: you got like five five minutes, ten minutes of you know,
Speaker 2: before they start doing whatever this is, that's it has
Speaker 2: to be them.
Speaker 3: But so rocks start coming in.
Speaker 2: It's torrential downpour, it's nine o'clock at night, it's pitch black,
Speaker 2: and somebody's throwing rocks at us again. And they never
Speaker 2: hit us, not once. These rocks never touch your body,
Speaker 2: but they're big enough some of them where if they
Speaker 2: hit you, some of them are size of potatoes, they
Speaker 2: knock your head right off. So that was the second time,
Speaker 2: and still we left and you know, we're talking about
Speaker 2: on the way home, and we're like, dude, it's.
Speaker 3: Got to be a hobo.
Speaker 2: It's got to be like some homeless guy that's got
Speaker 2: a tent back there and he doesn't want us there
Speaker 2: and he's annoyed, and you know, that's it. That's all
Speaker 2: we could come up with. So I wasn't scared. I
Speaker 2: didn't have a feeling. I didn't have a reason to
Speaker 2: be nervous. I didn't have a you know, nothing like that.
Speaker 2: So maybe again two one, two weeks later we go
Speaker 2: back and now it's again it's four or five in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, So we get down there, and that year,
Speaker 2: every time we went, these three times, there was nobody
Speaker 2: ever down there except for this one guy. So this
Speaker 2: old timer shows up and he's like, oh, you boys
Speaker 2: are gonna go fishing. Yeah, yeah, oh I've been fishing
Speaker 2: this pond thirty years. And this guy's like giving us,
Speaker 2: you know, senkos and certain which is a rubble worm.
Speaker 2: He's giving us different stuff, and he's like, yeah, go
Speaker 2: over here in that corner. That's where these type of
Speaker 2: fish hang out, and go over there, and and these
Speaker 2: long winded and he kept going and dance, getting impatient.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, we got to go. I said, all right.
Speaker 2: I said, well, nice talk to you, sir. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they had no problem. And something just gave me the
Speaker 2: inkling to ask him if he's ever seen or heard
Speaker 2: anything weird. So I said, hey, can't see something and
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, I said, did you ever hear see
Speaker 2: anything out here when you're fishing? He was like, no,
Speaker 2: not that I can think of, I said, And he goes, oh, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a weird rooster noise sometimes when I'm down here.
Speaker 3: Early in the morning.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, noted.
Speaker 3: So he's like, all right, good luck, have fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well get out there. We're fishing the beautiful night,
Speaker 2: no clouds or nothing.
Speaker 3: We stayed till.
Speaker 2: Ten this time. And Dan knows that I watch these
Speaker 2: these podcasts. I watch you, I watch Wes, and that's
Speaker 2: actually it. I used to watch some other ones, but
Speaker 2: I don't agree with the way it's what they're doing anymore.
Speaker 3: So I stopped it. But he makes fun of me.
Speaker 2: So he's like, what do those bigfoot do again?
Speaker 3: I said, what do you mean? He's like, what do
Speaker 3: they whoop or something? I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2: So we're just about to come in and he's making
Speaker 2: these whoop sounds and he's laughing, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 2: And it's actually embarrassing because he's doing it loud and
Speaker 2: I know people can hear, and I'm like, dude.
Speaker 3: Just knock it off. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So get back to the truck and it's it's still
Speaker 2: a little bit daylight, but barely. I mean I think
Speaker 2: the sun goes down at the time, you know, like
Speaker 2: eight eight thirty, so it's still a little light. And
Speaker 2: we're putting the truck away. I'm in the boat away.
Speaker 3: And I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for it. I'm like this it's got
Speaker 2: to be third times charm.
Speaker 3: Something's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And Dan is cheap, and he has these old ratchet
Speaker 2: straps that are all jammed up and rusty, and even
Speaker 2: though he's a brand new Toyleter truck, apparently came by
Speaker 2: new ratchet straps. So he's screwing around with these ratchet
Speaker 2: straps trying to get the boat down. And I'm just
Speaker 2: panning around with the flashlight and a rock flies out
Speaker 2: of the woods and lands by my feet. Right it
Speaker 2: hits a bush lands by my feet. And I told him,
Speaker 2: I said, Dan, it's doing it again. He goes, no,
Speaker 2: it's not shut up, You're not scaring me.
Speaker 3: This is dumb.
Speaker 2: I said, no, it's doing it again. And it just
Speaker 2: started doing it a lot. Like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: rocks coming. I mean, it through at least twenty something rocks.
Speaker 2: He's getting pissed and he's like, dude, it's just a
Speaker 2: whole ball. You need to calm down. I'm freaking out.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I'm done. I don't want to be here.
Speaker 2: I don't like this. This is it's stating the kind
Speaker 2: to kick in that this is not just a person.
Speaker 2: But I still can't fully accept it. So he's like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll teach you to freaking lesson whatever
Speaker 2: it is. And he grabs a pile of rocks and
Speaker 2: he starts whipping them into the woods where these rocks
Speaker 2: are coming out. Every time he threw a rock, one
Speaker 2: would be passing it coming out like it knew he
Speaker 2: was throwing. It was matching him perfectly. It was like
Speaker 2: his rock was it's not actually happening like that, but
Speaker 2: it was like his rock was.
Speaker 3: Bouncing off an invisible force field. That's how perfect it was.
Speaker 2: It was just he'd throwing foot it was already passing.
Speaker 2: And he's like, what was that, I said, dude, I
Speaker 2: told you. I'm like, I'm done.
Speaker 3: A huge rock, bigger than.
Speaker 2: A potato comes out of the woods and lands dead
Speaker 2: nuts center in the middle of the boat. And the
Speaker 2: weird thing is it didn't roll around, it didn't move.
Speaker 2: It was weird. It just hit the boat and that
Speaker 2: was it. It just stuck in the middle of the boat
Speaker 2: like it was a magnet or something. And he's like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm done. I said, dude, I don't I'm done.
Speaker 3: I jumped in the.
Speaker 2: Truck first and I locked the door and a rock,
Speaker 2: you know, like the size of the marble hit the
Speaker 2: roof and rolled down and I'm watching it and it's
Speaker 2: set right on the wiper. So he gets in and
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not finished unratching the boat. I said, dude,
Speaker 2: just screw it.
Speaker 3: The boat's mostly in there. Just get out of here.
Speaker 3: We'll go up the road a mile or.
Speaker 2: Two and we'll get out and we'll check them and
Speaker 2: sure we have anything before we leave. So he's flying
Speaker 2: up the road. We're doing like thirty and this is
Speaker 2: like a you know, a narrow dirt road like you're doing.
Speaker 3: It's pretty fast.
Speaker 2: We go up about a mile a mile and a
Speaker 2: half and we get out and he's a grab the flashlight,
Speaker 2: all right, So we're checking anything. The second I opened
Speaker 2: my door a rock being right off the tree behind me,
Speaker 2: and we just drove more than a mile doing thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you still think it's a person? Now?
Speaker 3: I don't know who it is.
Speaker 2: I said, well, hell, did this person catch up to
Speaker 2: us if we just drove a mile at thirty miles
Speaker 2: an hour and they're already throwing rocks at us.
Speaker 3: Again, He's like, whatever, dude, you keep imagining crap.
Speaker 2: Keep watching the stupid Bigfoot crap or whatever you watch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm done with this whatever. So that was the last
Speaker 2: time of August twenty twenty three. So the whole year
Speaker 2: goes by nour In last year, he goes, hey, you
Speaker 2: want to go to Halfway Pond? I just gave it away,
Speaker 2: But all right there.
Speaker 3: It is Halfway Pawn.
Speaker 2: So I go, you know what, Yeah, I'll go screw it.
Speaker 2: What's the odds of the stuff happening again? So we
Speaker 2: get down there. This time there's a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: We could barely find parking. There's people on jet skis
Speaker 2: and we went early in the day. There's people swimming.
Speaker 2: Find a parking spot. It's in a different area than
Speaker 2: we usually park. And we get the boating and we're
Speaker 2: just fishing. Sure enough, ten o'clock comes, it's pitch black
Speaker 2: coming in and this time the truck was right near
Speaker 2: the water.
Speaker 3: He didn't have to go get the truck. Truck was
Speaker 3: right there. He backs the truck and this is a
Speaker 3: brand new Oh it's not brand new anymore. I was
Speaker 3: a leftover.
Speaker 2: It was a twenty twenty three Tacoma. So he backs
Speaker 2: the truck down and I'm waiting again. I'm like, it
Speaker 2: was a whole year ago. I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna you know, I got my flashlight handing around and
Speaker 2: a rock comes flying out of the woods again. And
Speaker 2: mind you, this is the first time I noticed that
Speaker 2: everything is dead, perfectly quiet. There's not a sound. The
Speaker 2: only sound that I heard was a whipperwill.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 2: And when I look back on all the other times
Speaker 2: there wasn't.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: I'm like, there was no sound, there's no crickets, there's
Speaker 2: no frogs, there's no anything. So a rock comes in
Speaker 2: and he's like what I try to tell him and
Speaker 2: he goes, well, what I had heard something? I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's rocks, and a rock beams right off the roof
Speaker 2: of the truck, brand new truck, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: made like a sound like of a like if you
Speaker 2: stepped on like a an empty beer can or something.
Speaker 2: And he's like, dude, dude, that just.
Speaker 3: Hit my truck. I said, yeah, right on your roof.
Speaker 2: Now he's mad and I just want to go. And
Speaker 2: as I'm holding my flashlight, it gets so hot in
Speaker 2: my hand that I can't physically hold it anymore, and
Speaker 2: it goes out this and this is a brand new
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the same flashlight I had before.
Speaker 2: This is a better, newer one. And it gets hot
Speaker 2: in my hand. I can't hold it. I turn it off.
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 2: I get in the truck. He's done with the boat.
Speaker 3: He gets in.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, just go go because these rocks were
Speaker 2: bigger than the last time. He's like, dude, calm down,
Speaker 2: calm down. And I'm like, no, no, go. And it's
Speaker 2: hot out. So he's sitting there and he's playing with
Speaker 2: the AC and he's turning the radio on whatever station,
Speaker 2: and he wants I'm like, dude, you gotta.
Speaker 3: Go, just go.
Speaker 2: Do you want I'm screaming at him. Actually, at this point,
Speaker 2: I do you like dents in your brand new truck?
Speaker 2: Because this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Don't stop it. You being a baby. It ain't nothing.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, whatever, dude, and I'm antsy.
Speaker 3: I just want to leave.
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, calm down, calm down. He puts his
Speaker 2: foot on the brake and he puts it in drive
Speaker 2: and when he looks, he looks over it in the
Speaker 2: driver's mirror and just starts losing his mind, losing his mind,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's screaming, don't look back.
Speaker 3: Whatever you do, don't look back.
Speaker 2: I don't have a flashlight anymore.
Speaker 3: It's done.
Speaker 2: And all I had was a little pocket, you know,
Speaker 2: little cheap led flashlight. I'm climbing, he's stuffing it. I'm
Speaker 2: climbing in the back seat and I opened the slider
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to shine. I can't see anything. He's
Speaker 2: just flying and I'm like, I keep I get back
Speaker 2: in my seat.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what did you see? What did you see? Nothing?
Speaker 2: And he's flying. I'm like, what did you see? He's like, dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what
Speaker 2: it was. We get all the way to the main
Speaker 2: road and he stops and we're just sitting now where
Speaker 2: I think there's a street light there and stuff, and
Speaker 2: you're back and you know, on the main road. This
Speaker 2: guy's going by. I said, what did you see? He goes, Dude,
Speaker 2: all I know was big, it's I reflect and red
Speaker 2: and I've just seen it walk right behind the truck.
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, so that's what it was. He goes, No,
Speaker 2: I'm never going to admit that that's not what it was.
Speaker 3: You don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: I said, dude, what was it?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: I don't know, But I don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: it anymore. I said, okay, you don't want to talk Nope,
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. And this is
Speaker 2: a guy I don't go hunting. I fish. He goes
Speaker 2: up in tree stands at four in the morning. He's
Speaker 2: up there for daylight, climbs up there, never had a problem,
Speaker 2: doesn't want to deal with this stuff. He doesn't want
Speaker 2: to think about it, doesn't want.
Speaker 3: To care about it.
Speaker 2: Just very nonsense, even though he saw the thing and
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: So that was last year.
Speaker 2: So that was the last time I went to Halfway Pond,
Speaker 2: and that will be the last time I will go there.
Speaker 2: So a week or two goes by calls me up.
Speaker 2: You want to go fishing? I said, yeah, yep, you
Speaker 2: want to go to Halfway? No? Why?
Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, that is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: I don't want any more do I said, okay, well
Speaker 2: 'screw that let's go somewhere else. He said, well, let's
Speaker 2: fish in one of the ponds and miles standards. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: it's like I think it's like as the crow flies
Speaker 2: maybe six seven miles maybe away five miles away from
Speaker 2: where we were. And I'm like, well, at this point,
Speaker 2: I still discredit. I'm still trying to grasp reality of
Speaker 2: whatever this is.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, maybe there's still just kids.
Speaker 2: And then you add up how of a insane aim
Speaker 2: this thing has and the quietness and when you shine
Speaker 2: the light there's nothing there, and then what he saw,
Speaker 2: and I'm in my mind, I'm like, as long as
Speaker 2: I'm not going back to that place, I don't care.
Speaker 2: So I'll go try another pond. So we go to
Speaker 2: one of the ponds in Mount Standards State Park and
Speaker 2: there's nobody around, and we get the boat, put it in.
Speaker 2: He had to move the truck, you know, get to
Speaker 2: pack another one hundred feet away. There's nothing, you know,
Speaker 2: there's no direct access. So we go out and we're
Speaker 2: fishing and there's a perfect night and there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: And we're out there at about ten o'clock at night
Speaker 2: and we're coming back in and we got to drag
Speaker 2: the boat up this uh, you know, a gra gravel
Speaker 2: like drainage ditch thing and actually the rocks are pretty big,
Speaker 2: so you're fumbling all over the place climb up this thing.
Speaker 2: He has to go get the truck packet on the
Speaker 2: wrong side of the road face, you know, facing the
Speaker 2: wrong way.
Speaker 3: To get it to where we can just get the boat.
Speaker 2: And there's nobody out there. Ten o'clock at night, so
Speaker 2: you know, I got this new flashlight that I had
Speaker 2: and I'm shining around the one that didn't work before
Speaker 2: that got hot.
Speaker 3: And there's no really like low low underbrush.
Speaker 2: Everything's kind of just scrub pines, so you can see
Speaker 2: pretty good. So I'm just, you know, just because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna look around and seeing he's already helped
Speaker 2: them put the boat in and he's strapping it down again,
Speaker 2: and a rock comes skidding down the road and you
Speaker 2: can hear it's coming kinking, kink, kink, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: half the size of a baseball. And I'm like, dude's
Speaker 2: doing it again. And he says, laughing, no, it's not
Speaker 2: your screw. I said, no, here it is again, And
Speaker 2: then a rock comes skipping up the road from the
Speaker 2: other way, and then they just started going like crazy
Speaker 2: and they are going right over the truck right over
Speaker 2: our heads, not touching us. And I'm getting aggravated now
Speaker 2: because now this is the fifth time. And I just
Speaker 2: said out loud, I don't know who you are, what
Speaker 2: you are, but can you please stop. We're just fishing,
Speaker 2: we're leaving. We don't want any trouble.
Speaker 3: Please stop.
Speaker 2: And everything stopped. And I looked at him and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you think this is? He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I waited about thirty seconds and he had a
Speaker 2: forty five on him. So I said, it's this is kids.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll scam him if I say this out loud.
Speaker 3: So I said, uh, hey Dan, he.
Speaker 2: Said yeah, still screwing with the boat. I said, uh,
Speaker 2: good thing. You got your gun on you right, and
Speaker 2: he went yep. The second he said, yep, a rock
Speaker 2: the size of a baseball pile drives this no pocketing sign.
Speaker 2: That was literally, you know, maybe two feet over to
Speaker 2: his right and maybe about three or four feet back.
Speaker 2: It sounded like a gunshot. So he's right, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm out. I'm out. So he just finished half. We
Speaker 3: get in the.
Speaker 2: Truck and we're flying out of there, and I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, dude, I'm sick. Of this, I said,
Speaker 2: turn around. There's one turn around.
Speaker 1: Jordan, are you there? Oh my goodness, I'm going to
Speaker 1: call that. I'm going to call it chort and back
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message
Speaker 4: system seven seven four four one.
Speaker 1: All right, this is this is a second call today
Speaker 1: where we have gotten we've gotten disconnected. I really hope
Speaker 1: I can call this guy back.
Speaker 4: Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system.
Speaker 4: Seven seven four is not available at this time at
Speaker 4: the tone. Please record your message. When you have finished recording,
Speaker 4: you may hang out or press one for more options.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jordan, this Dermia calling you back. We got disconnected
Speaker 1: or somehow. It's just like the phone went click on
Speaker 1: your side. I'm going to try the other number.
Speaker 4: Please leave your message for.
Speaker 1: Well. I just tried both of Jordan's phone numbers. It
Speaker 1: is very evident that someone does not want these calls
Speaker 1: to happen. Wow, okay, I'm just gonna have to see
Speaker 1: if he calls back.
Speaker 2: Let me test him.
Speaker 1: Here here we go, all right, we're gonna give us
Speaker 1: some time. Yeah, well, this is really weird, guys, it's
Speaker 1: very very weird.
Speaker 2: And when I finished the story, I said basically like
Speaker 2: queuing you to be like, oh wow, Jordan, Well and
Speaker 2: I'm like waiting. I looked down on the phone and
Speaker 2: it was still going, like the call never ended.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got the recording going on. I'm bringing up
Speaker 1: the map of Plymouth again. Uh So we were at
Speaker 1: see you were at the the other pond and Miles
Speaker 1: standish and then there had been like a rock your buddy.
Speaker 1: You were like, hey, you have your gun right and
Speaker 1: then and he was like yep, and then this huge
Speaker 1: rock hit the sign and then yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh so you didn't hear anything about the cloud with
Speaker 2: the tail on it, with the smoke or anything. No, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 2: oh man, this is weird. So is this one of
Speaker 2: those things where they're listening and then they cut the
Speaker 2: phone call.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, but it happens a lot to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I That's the thing that fascinates
Speaker 2: me more about Sasquatch than Sasquatch is why are they
Speaker 2: trying to hide it? And what else do they have
Speaker 2: to hide? That's what That's what confuses me. That's the intrigue.
Speaker 2: And just like what's his name there? From How to Hunt?
Speaker 2: He says, if you if they admitted these things are real,
Speaker 2: then they'd have to admit all the other crap that
Speaker 2: they're for tending eight reel is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So anyway, that's what makes me mad. It actually
Speaker 2: aggravates me because it's like saying, why you hide? Like,
Speaker 2: what do you got to hide?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: Anyway, So hopefully I don't cut the soul phone. Okay,
Speaker 2: I will keep checking if you don't mind, every five
Speaker 2: minutes on this ask if you're still there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's good. That's good for me. Yep.
Speaker 2: Okay. So they threw a rock at the sign, and
Speaker 2: I mean it sounded like a gunshot and it was
Speaker 2: right when I said, do you have your gun? Dan?
Speaker 2: So whatever it is knows what English is somehow, or
Speaker 2: they can read your mind. I don't know. So we
Speaker 2: leave and I say, no, turn around. I want to
Speaker 2: see this thing walk out. I've had it. So he goes,
Speaker 2: are you're sure? I said, yeah, turn around. So we
Speaker 2: turn around. We go back down a mile, standish down
Speaker 2: that road and nothing happened. So he said, dude, I
Speaker 2: got to get out and pee. Dude, you got to
Speaker 2: come me. So I get out and I'm shining this flashlight.
Speaker 2: Nothing happens. Let's get back from the truck, and now
Speaker 2: we're just we're now we're heading back towards my house.
Speaker 2: We're heading the right way, and a rock beams off
Speaker 2: the truck. So he's pissed. It's a brand new truck.
Speaker 2: I think you paid like forty five grand for this thing.
Speaker 2: He goes, give me the flashlight. He gets out and
Speaker 2: stands on the door. Still the door is still. He
Speaker 2: shines the light. He climbs up and shine the light
Speaker 2: over the truck and a rock lane directly in the
Speaker 2: boat in the back of the truck. You're still there, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: So he freaks out. He's like, dude, we gotta get
Speaker 2: out of here. I'm done. I don't want any this
Speaker 2: thing already. Actually, then, like one of the rock that
Speaker 2: last time we were at the other pond, the rock
Speaker 2: skimmed the roof of the truck. That's what that sound was,
Speaker 2: and it actually left it took paint off. And if
Speaker 2: I go, like I looked at it the other day
Speaker 2: when he came over, it's rusting like it took the
Speaker 2: paint off. So we get out of there. I said,
Speaker 2: I'm never going back here again. I'm done. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'll go drive through here, I'll come in here during
Speaker 2: the day. I'm not fishing here. So a few weeks
Speaker 2: go by, he goes, do you want to go fishing?
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I go Where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: I said, why don't we go down near a giant
Speaker 2: reservoir And there's a bunch of fire roads And I
Speaker 2: fished there my whole life. Never had a problem. And
Speaker 2: you got to walk in like a mile to get
Speaker 2: to this place. But it's nice because nobody else wants
Speaker 2: to the fishermen. You want to get in a boat
Speaker 2: and go, or they want to get out and fish
Speaker 2: off of a causeway or something. So we we meet
Speaker 2: a church parking lot that's got a fire road going
Speaker 2: off the back of it. It's right down the street.
Speaker 2: So we walk in. We're doing great, and a lot
Speaker 2: of big fish. We caught, you know, five six pounds.
Speaker 2: It was really nice. Straight in the fall, they're all
Speaker 2: fattening up, falling and they were hitting everything. And now
Speaker 2: it's you know, we got there it maybe five and
Speaker 2: by the time we walked out there, now it's about
Speaker 2: seven thirty and standing it back, and he goes, I
Speaker 2: think it's time to go. I said, all right, so
Speaker 2: let's make a couple more casts. Okay with that. And
Speaker 2: now there's a big rock where we're at, and the
Speaker 2: shoreline where we're fishing. It was such a dry summer
Speaker 2: that the shoreline, you know, normally you'd be in two
Speaker 2: three feet of water walking on it. And there's a
Speaker 2: rock the size of like two or three pickup trucks
Speaker 2: right on this peninsula, right on this point. So we
Speaker 2: climb up on the rock and we're fishing a rock.
Speaker 2: The rocks just start coming in, and I freaked out
Speaker 2: so bad that I just got down on my knees
Speaker 2: and started praying the Lord's Prayer. I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just wanted to go away. And
Speaker 2: now we're in the middle of no like we're a
Speaker 2: mile in the woods. He doesn't have his gun on him,
Speaker 2: that there's nothing we can do, and the rocks just
Speaker 2: keep coming. So I get down, I stop praying, and
Speaker 2: the name of Jesus leave us alone. As corny as
Speaker 2: that does sounds to some people, that's what I believe.
Speaker 2: And it stopped and I looked at him, I go,
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? He's like, dude, grab you
Speaker 2: you know what, you know, gotta be a man, got
Speaker 2: to walk out of here. I'm like, okay, Like what
Speaker 2: are we gonna do? What are you gonna do? So we, uh,
Speaker 2: we start walking and you gotta walk, you know, about
Speaker 2: one hundred feet to get back into the woods because
Speaker 2: there's cliffs, you know, you got you know, twelve fourteen
Speaker 2: fifteen foot cliffs up that's where all the stuff was
Speaker 2: coming down at us. As we're walking back to the path,
Speaker 2: a log, you know, about eight inches in diameter and
Speaker 2: maybe six seven feet long comes flying down off the
Speaker 2: top of the hill and just lands right on the beach,
Speaker 2: the rocks right in front of us. I shine the
Speaker 2: light back up there. There's nothing there, nothing. I am
Speaker 2: like done. I am hysterical. We start running out of there,
Speaker 2: and there's rocks bouncing off of the trees, there's branches breaking.
Speaker 2: We're getting pushed out. I get to the point where
Speaker 2: I can't run anymore. I got a big tackle bag,
Speaker 2: I got my rods. He's older than me, he's dying.
Speaker 2: We pull We just stopped and I shine the flashlight
Speaker 2: back and there's nothing there, and there's no sounds, there's
Speaker 2: no crickets, there's no bugs, there's no nothing still there. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: so sorry. I don't mean to keep asking that, but
Speaker 2: I don't trust this phone, so it sucks. So we
Speaker 2: finally get out of there. The second we get to
Speaker 2: that church parking lot, everything stopped. It just stopped, and
Speaker 2: I was so pissed. I was taunting it. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm in my truck. My because we took two separate vehicles,
Speaker 2: so my truck's there now and my trucks are closest
Speaker 2: to the woods, and I'm like, come on, throw another rock,
Speaker 2: come on, let's do it. Go ahead. No, nothing, They
Speaker 2: just stopped. So I'm ruffed up. He's rubbed up. He's like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm going home. That was enough for me.
Speaker 2: I said, yep, that's enough for me too, dude. So
Speaker 2: I go home and I cracked a couple of beers
Speaker 2: and just try to forget it. A couple weeks later,
Speaker 2: you want to go out again, I said, yes, I
Speaker 2: will go. I'm not staying till daylight nighttime. I will
Speaker 2: leave with plenty of sun left in the sky. I
Speaker 2: am not doing this again. So we go. I can't relax,
Speaker 2: so we walk out there. I don't even want to fish.
Speaker 2: I'm too raancy. It's too much. So it's like six
Speaker 2: o'clock comes and you can tell the sun's gonna set.
Speaker 2: So I said, dude, I'm out, let's go. Oh come on,
Speaker 2: don't be a you know what. Let's go come on. Nope, nope, nope, nope,
Speaker 2: I'm done. He goes, all right, So let's start walking out.
Speaker 2: It's daylight. I can see, I can see everything. And
Speaker 2: a rock the size of a basketball comes flying out
Speaker 2: of the woods. I can hear it hitting the branches
Speaker 2: above me, and it lands in the water and it.
Speaker 5: Just makes the biggest compoge. And he's like, oh, wow,
Speaker 5: did you hear that fish? And said, how did you
Speaker 5: not hear? That's not a fish? And he's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 5: I said no, it's not. We're arguing. I'm like how,
Speaker 5: and I'm yelling at him. I'm like, how dumb are you?
Speaker 5: That's not a fish, Dude, I've had enough of this stuff.
Speaker 5: He goes, no, no, no, we got to get down there.
Speaker 5: You're just being paranoid.
Speaker 2: You're being parent. I said, I'm not being paranoid, and
Speaker 2: then a rock we start walking again, A rock beside
Speaker 2: of a bowling ball, maybe like one of those little
Speaker 2: kid bowling balls, you know, the bump of bowling balls
Speaker 2: comes flying out of the woods, lands on the path,
Speaker 2: but directly between us. Way we just walked in between
Speaker 2: us where I just walked, and bounces and goes into
Speaker 2: the lake. And somehow he doesn't hear this at all.
Speaker 2: So I turned around and said, what the f? He
Speaker 2: goes what I said, how did you just trip? He
Speaker 2: just no? I said, what was that thump? Because I
Speaker 2: saw it. I'm like and I'm like trying to rationalize this,
Speaker 2: so I already know what it was, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: what what is going on? Like? Why how did you
Speaker 2: not hear it? Did? I just see what I saw?
Speaker 2: And he's like, dude, you're freaking out. You need to
Speaker 2: calm down. I'm like, I'm not. Do you think I'm loosinating? Dude? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't understand why you just I'm like, dude, no,
Speaker 2: just He's like, dude, due, you gotta calm down. I'm
Speaker 2: like nope, and I start walking. I'm walking out of it.
Speaker 2: I'm done, and he's behind me, here's a dude, waight up.
Speaker 2: I'm like nope.
Speaker 6: And the whole time, the rest of the time we're
Speaker 6: walking out, they weren't doing what they were doing at night.
Speaker 2: The last time.
Speaker 6: They were pelting everything, ripping branches off. There's rocks the
Speaker 6: side of baseballs, taking branches off, and they this was weird.
Speaker 2: They're dropping marble to golf ball sized rocks from the sky.
Speaker 2: They're not getting whipped at you or past you. They're
Speaker 2: falling directly from above you, right in front of your faces.
Speaker 2: Go dude, what was there? I said, dude, you eight coorns.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you think I'm that dumb, I don't.
Speaker 2: I watched the rock hit the ground and roll. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's just eight corns, dude, it's the fall. I said, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we get back. I said, I'm dude, I'm never going
Speaker 2: in there again. And I've been in these woods my
Speaker 2: whole life by myself till midnight, and the only thing
Speaker 2: I can think of is back when I was in
Speaker 2: high school. I'm thirty four. Me and my buddy, my
Speaker 2: other friend Dan just passed away. We rode our bikes
Speaker 2: out there to fish one time and a spot near there,
Speaker 2: and I got ahead of him and stopped to wait
Speaker 2: for him. And I was probably fourteen fifteen and a
Speaker 2: rock hit my bike tire and fell on the ground.
Speaker 2: That was it. And I turned around said, hey, did
Speaker 2: you throw a rock at He goes no, and his
Speaker 2: chain fell off. He was busy fixing his chain and
Speaker 2: I never thought anything of it. That was it. So
Speaker 2: now I've had three times in Plymouth, the twenty three,
Speaker 2: and then one more at that halfway and then another
Speaker 2: one incident at the particular pond in Miles Standish. Now
Speaker 2: it's doing it down the street from my house. These
Speaker 2: I'm miles from Miles Standish, So how does this happened?
Speaker 2: That's I don't understand. Why how do these things know
Speaker 2: where I'm at, what I'm doing? Why are they bothering us?
Speaker 2: Why are they forcing us out? So I was talking
Speaker 2: to I shouldn't have done this, because I get made
Speaker 2: fun of it to this day.
Speaker 6: But I brought it up to a guy at work
Speaker 6: and he goes, oh, my buddy does a show and
Speaker 6: he has a podcast, and da da da da da.
Speaker 2: Why don't you your message him? He lives around here
Speaker 2: and I won't mention who it is for his own privacy,
Speaker 2: but at that point in time, I just wanted some
Speaker 2: type of answer. And I don't believe in the regular
Speaker 2: conventional way that a lot of these the problem. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that anybody's wrong. Anybody can do this the
Speaker 2: way they want to do it. But you're going out
Speaker 2: in the woods and banging on trees and making hooting
Speaker 2: and hollering and stuff, you might get a reaction, but
Speaker 2: usually these things just find you. From what I've found,
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert, but I'm not into that stuff
Speaker 2: at all. So he goes, you should really go and
Speaker 2: talk to him, and blah blah blah. So I said, fine,
Speaker 2: screw So I I message a guy, Yeah, let me
Speaker 2: talk to you. Can I put you on speakerphone with
Speaker 2: my prit and I said yeah. So we're talking. They're like, yep,
Speaker 2: that's what's going on. And I said, okay, well, if
Speaker 2: you want to go out with us, you're more than welcome.
Speaker 2: And they wanted to see the place in daytime where
Speaker 2: the last thing happened. So I took them, and I
Speaker 2: kind of, actually, to be honest, I felt kind of
Speaker 2: embarrassed because this is not my type of thing. It's
Speaker 2: not I really listen to stories. I just want to
Speaker 2: hear encounters. That's what I want to hear. I want
Speaker 2: to hear and I want to compare it to things
Speaker 2: that I've seen. It's interesting. I don't really go out
Speaker 2: I'm not going out there and looking for these things.
Speaker 2: That's not my thing. So I take them over there,
Speaker 2: and it was weird because when we were out there, again,
Speaker 2: this is a very congested area. I mean, there's clumps
Speaker 2: of a few thousand acres here and there, but that's it.
Speaker 2: We're on the shore of the slake that I took
Speaker 2: them to. It's right down the street. And sure, there's
Speaker 2: a pile of muscle shells. I'm not I'm talking like
Speaker 2: a hundred more than a hundred shells of freshwater muscles.
Speaker 2: And there's this big impression in the ground. So, okay,
Speaker 2: what was it. I told my friend Dan about it
Speaker 2: and go, oh, it's probably a raccoon. I said, no, dude,
Speaker 2: raccoons don't go and collect a big pile and then
Speaker 2: sit there and eat them. So whatever that was, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Other than that, that whole thing was kind
Speaker 2: of uneventful, and I just they wanted to see where
Speaker 2: things happened, and that was one of the weird things.
Speaker 2: That was it. No footprints, no nothing. So a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks later, an hour in October and later October
Speaker 2: and the guy goes, hey, do you want to go
Speaker 2: out to one of our spots? And I won't say
Speaker 2: where it is, and I said, you know, what's screw it,
Speaker 2: I've seen find a bigfoot and all this. I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll go check it out. What do I have to lose.
Speaker 2: It's a Friday night, I don't care. So I go
Speaker 2: out with them and they're beinging on trees and whooping
Speaker 2: and so in silence, and I'm like, to me, this
Speaker 2: is dumb. I'm like, I just I'm already thinking about
Speaker 2: what I want to eat for dinner, what I want
Speaker 2: to watch later, and where I'm I'm not making fun
Speaker 2: of them, I'm just saying like I was just like
Speaker 2: kind of checked out, like okay, this is what I
Speaker 2: thought it would be. So we're walking out of the
Speaker 2: woods and there's a big field and we came in
Speaker 2: from and it's off of the main road. So we're
Speaker 2: in the woods about one hundred feet still and we're
Speaker 2: walking out and all of a sudden, there's all these
Speaker 2: little lights and they are about the size of a
Speaker 2: big marble and they're just blinking one here, one there,
Speaker 2: one here, one there. And I'm like, what that's that.
Speaker 3: They're like what.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what does that? And I'm like, oh, that
Speaker 6: means that they're around. I'm like, what do you mean them?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: Like like, what do you mean? Oh, well, that's what
Speaker 6: they do. And I said, what do you mean? That's
Speaker 6: what they do? And all of a sudden, this orb
Speaker 6: the sides of like a baseball. Now, did mind you?
Speaker 2: We're not this is like a small clump of woods
Speaker 2: compared to other parts, like this is like a few
Speaker 2: hundred acres. Okay, This baseball size orb comes drifting through
Speaker 2: the trees and it starts to grow and it goes
Speaker 2: to about the size of an exercise ball, and it's pulsating.
Speaker 2: Now it's going down about the size of basketball and
Speaker 2: then back to an exercise ball. And when I'm looking
Speaker 2: at this thing, it looks like one of those it's
Speaker 2: got like you know when you look at one of
Speaker 2: those deep ocean jellyfish that's got like the different colors,
Speaker 2: like the strobing stuff you barely could make it out,
Speaker 2: but you could see that in it. And this thing
Speaker 2: is getting smaller and bigger, and it's drifting back through
Speaker 2: the woods and forward through the woods towards us, backwards,
Speaker 2: and it's weaving around trees, and there's no sound, and
Speaker 2: it's just like everybody else says, that's Ces's orbs, there's
Speaker 2: no they don't. It wasn't emitting light. It was just
Speaker 2: it was just all self contained. It was weird. And
Speaker 2: I never got a feeling from this thing that it
Speaker 2: was violent, it was angry, it was evil. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't believe what I'm looking at. I did there's no
Speaker 2: way after all these stories and accounts that I've heard
Speaker 2: about these stupid orbs, and I still believe them, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's just no way that I'm ever going
Speaker 2: to see something like this. And I found it weird,
Speaker 2: Like why am I seeing this after? Like why did
Speaker 2: this not happen? Like obviously that's what was throwing the
Speaker 2: rocks at me and my friend, So what now I'm
Speaker 2: with the group of these researchers, okay, and this is happening.
Speaker 2: So we're watching this thing for twenty minutes, half hour.
Speaker 2: I don't know and all of a sudden just kind
Speaker 2: of dissipates backs up and it's gone. And then two
Speaker 2: pairs of eyeballs show up that are eight feet tall,
Speaker 2: white eyeballs glowing white, like a yellowy white. And I'm
Speaker 2: watching these things blink and everything. I don't know what
Speaker 2: I'm looking I mean, I know what I'm looking at,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's them, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's some type of deity. I don't know. All
Speaker 2: I know is there's two big sets of eyeballs. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I don't I'm I'm you're
Speaker 2: kind of stuck. I mean, I had my truck there.
Speaker 2: I could have ran away. You know, it's a few
Speaker 2: hundred feet away out in the field that could have
Speaker 2: I could have ran. I just I think you get
Speaker 2: kind of you don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 6: You're like, well, if I die die, I don't think
Speaker 6: I will, but I'm probably not gonna get this chance again.
Speaker 2: So I'm staying with them, and we're just watching these eyes.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the guys hands me, yeah, it
Speaker 2: wasn't thermal, it was a night vision set of binocular
Speaker 2: or something, and he's like, look at it, Okay, I
Speaker 2: grab it, and I'm looking at the parrot one of
Speaker 2: the sets of eyeballs, and it looked like a five
Speaker 2: gallon bucket far ahead with a five foot shoulders standing
Speaker 2: behind a road dedrom bush. I didn't see any detail.
Speaker 2: I couldn't see the hair, I couldn't see a face.
Speaker 2: It was just eyes with a giant outline. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well why It's like, why is you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be seeing this is? This is insane? So and mind
Speaker 2: you got really cold all of a sudden. It was
Speaker 2: just freezing. I mean we went in the woods. It
Speaker 2: was fifty sixty degrees out. I mean it was so
Speaker 2: cold that my hands are going numb. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that was just me my body's reaction to the
Speaker 2: I don't know. So we get out of the woodline.
Speaker 2: We're making it back towards the vehicles, and these things
Speaker 2: are just keeping their distance, but they're falling us out.
Speaker 2: Once we got to the field, you just watch they
Speaker 2: just they never left the woods.
Speaker 6: Just the two of them, and I look up at
Speaker 6: the sky.
Speaker 2: Everyone's infatuated with the woods, and the sun hadn't been
Speaker 2: it wasn't completely down and you know, like right before
Speaker 2: you get that really rich pink sky, there was no clouds.
Speaker 2: This one cloud almost it wasn't perfect, like, it wasn't
Speaker 2: straight lined triangle, but it looked like a wedge. It
Speaker 2: looked like just a triangle cloud the size of a
Speaker 2: pickup truck. And it was only, you know, one hundred
Speaker 2: feet one hundred and fifty feet above the woodline, and
Speaker 2: it's coming.
Speaker 6: Over us, and it's got a tail on it, a
Speaker 6: black smoky tail that it looked, I don't know, it
Speaker 6: almost looked like a comet tail, but it was just
Speaker 6: really fluffy and wispy, and it did come out to
Speaker 6: a point, but it was I don't know what I'm
Speaker 6: looking this is. It's all too weird. The whole thing
Speaker 6: is too weird. And it's got like sparkles in it.
Speaker 6: It's got the cloud itself looked just like a regular
Speaker 6: kind of cloud other than the weird shape. But the
Speaker 6: tail on this thing looked like it.
Speaker 2: Almost looked like a black, black, dirty sooty smoke with
Speaker 2: like gold flake in it. I get everyone's attention, They're
Speaker 2: all look I said, what does that? Everyone looks up.
Speaker 2: The second everybody looked at it, everyone saw it. It
Speaker 2: disappeared in thin air, gone, and when it did, two
Speaker 2: more sets of eyeballs showed up. Now there's four of them.
Speaker 2: So again, I sound like an idiot for saying this stuff,
Speaker 2: because this isn't supposed to But I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: really quite heard I've heard some weird stuff, but I've
Speaker 2: never heard anybody talking about a cloud with a.
Speaker 3: Tail on it.
Speaker 2: So that and then two more of these things show up.
Speaker 2: So that's the first I've ever heard of it. And
Speaker 2: I've you know, put thousands of hours and the listening
Speaker 2: to these podcasts. So that was weird. And we're going
Speaker 2: to leave, you know, they all went out at you know,
Speaker 2: another twenty minutes. Their eyes just disappeared, and okay, they're gone,
Speaker 2: and we're all talking about it. And now they show
Speaker 2: up on the other sides of the field, near the
Speaker 2: road where we have to leave by, and it's all
Speaker 2: four of them, and you can see the move them
Speaker 2: around they're walking through. There's no sound. You can see
Speaker 2: where their eyes are moving. I look off to the
Speaker 2: right after I was only counting three pairs of eyes,
Speaker 2: and I look off to the right and I just
Speaker 2: saw a big, giant black mass just moving across the field.
Speaker 2: My flashlight wouldn't have reached it. And then they all
Speaker 2: went out and we just left. We were leaving and
Speaker 2: I had to bring one of the guys home. And
Speaker 2: when I came out into the main road, I mean,
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm not mentioning any of this is
Speaker 2: just for respect for him, because this is his research area.
Speaker 2: And if I mentioned the road, everybody will know where
Speaker 2: it is around here, so I just for respect for him,
Speaker 2: I won't do that. But when we pull out on
Speaker 2: the road, there's a F three fifty sitting there, and
Speaker 2: the ladies got all the interior lights on, and she's
Speaker 2: sitting there with her elbows on the steering wheel, with
Speaker 2: her hands up on her forehead, just staring out the window.
Speaker 6: And I turned to the gentleman and I said, should
Speaker 6: be taught. He's like, nope, just keep going. I said, okay.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what that lady saw, but she
Speaker 2: looked extremely distraught, and it was right where these things
Speaker 2: just were before they left, so I drop them off.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. I had
Speaker 2: to go to Walmart parking lot and sit for a
Speaker 2: few hours under the street lights just to calm down.
Speaker 2: It was just too weird. It was just from everything
Speaker 2: that the terrifying things that happened in the woods, stuff
Speaker 2: at the boat, and now I'm seeing the stuff in
Speaker 2: my own eyes. It was just too much.
Speaker 6: I ended up not getting home in like one in
Speaker 6: the morning, and I had to work the next day.
Speaker 2: So I didn't go out with them again. I kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to forget about it. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: deal with it anymore. So the winter goes by and nothing, no,
Speaker 2: not outside, not dealing with it. I'm busy plowing and
Speaker 2: standing for the town. I got a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: going on. So March finally.
Speaker 6: Comes and the weather's getting nice and in the same
Speaker 6: one that all the stuff happened with except he wasn't
Speaker 6: there for the visual stuff. But he goes, you want
Speaker 6: to go fishing? I said, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: So we meet up and it's a little river. It's deep,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of fish in it, and it's
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, like in the middle of
Speaker 2: a wooded area, and it's daylight. I get it out
Speaker 2: of the truck and a rock flies over my truck
Speaker 2: and he gets out and I said, dude, a rock
Speaker 2: just full of the truck.
Speaker 6: He goes, no, it didn't. I said, yes, it's getting old.
Speaker 6: At this point, I said that yep, it just happened.
Speaker 2: He goes, dude, it's just I said, how many times
Speaker 2: you're gonna say it's just freaking people? Dude? Now we're
Speaker 2: in a totally another spot, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't care, So I stop fishing with him. Every
Speaker 2: time we cast the law, a rock was hitting exactly
Speaker 2: where were just casting the laws. And it got to
Speaker 2: the point where there's no point being here anymore.
Speaker 6: And packed it up and then we left and I
Speaker 6: haven't been near the woods.
Speaker 2: I I can't go back. It's ruined this for me.
Speaker 2: And this was something that I did. There was nothing
Speaker 2: better than I liked to get out of work grab
Speaker 2: my fishing poles. I mean, I'm not like, I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people make this stuff up and stuff,
Speaker 2: but I have PTSD and this was my That was
Speaker 2: my number one thing to give me peace of mind
Speaker 2: and relaxation was to grab a couple of beers, throw
Speaker 2: my tackle back, walk out a mile or two and
Speaker 2: just sit there till you know, nine, ten eleven o'clock
Speaker 2: at night and just fish. I can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm done. I refuse because the next step, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm done. So I don't know. Take all that for
Speaker 2: what you will. I hate liars, I really do. And
Speaker 2: I hope you think I'm telling the truth because I
Speaker 2: actually don't even know. I just want answers, and this
Speaker 2: is ruining. I'm afraid to go outside at night by myself.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have twelve hundred and thirteen hundred acres
Speaker 2: behind my house. It's creepy. I don't like it. I
Speaker 2: don't know when the phone caught off earlier, but I
Speaker 2: mean I was younger, and weird stuff would happen around here,
Speaker 2: and I would never I never thought of this stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean I can remember sitting there in high school
Speaker 2: a little after that, actually, and something would just smack
Speaker 2: the side of the house really freaking loud. It would
Speaker 2: shake the paintings on the wall, and you come outside
Speaker 2: and there's nothing there, and it's like, okay, was that that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, none of this makes sense. I can't
Speaker 2: wrap my head around the cloud with the smoke on it,
Speaker 2: And then magically two more sets of eyeballs appear, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if you've ever heard that,
Speaker 2: but I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to say is that it's
Speaker 1: not crazy, because it is so It's not the first
Speaker 1: time that I've heard something like this, although the rock
Speaker 1: throwing is probably the most intense example I've ever heard
Speaker 1: of rock throwing, to be honest, I mean, I've never
Speaker 1: heard of it where it follows you to different places
Speaker 1: like that. It's just it's that's very extreme.
Speaker 2: Dude. Yeah, I don't get I don't get the point.
Speaker 2: I don't like I've tried to ask different people, like,
Speaker 2: who are you with. I'm like, my friend Dan, well,
Speaker 2: what did he do? I'm like, I don't know how.
Speaker 3: Long my friends called me, I get up and mute it.
Speaker 2: They're like, did he take a park shot at one
Speaker 2: of these things or something. I'm like, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any So he's out in the tree
Speaker 2: stand all the time.
Speaker 3: They don't screw them.
Speaker 2: I've been out fishing by myself millions of times in
Speaker 2: those same woods. Nothing, It's only moment together and I
Speaker 2: don't get it.
Speaker 3: And nothing adds up.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the thing with the.
Speaker 2: Cloud dude, with the smoky tail on it with the
Speaker 2: glitter in it, but whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: And then the thing turns into two more sets of eyeballs.
Speaker 2: It's like, what are they doing? Like? I like, what
Speaker 2: is that like? I don't know if that's like how
Speaker 2: they move around in this realm, because in my opinion,
Speaker 2: they're not here all the time. And everyone's like, oh, we're.
Speaker 3: Going to go try to find where they live.
Speaker 2: They don't live here. I don't think they live here.
Speaker 2: I think that they visit. And I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: Maybe they stay here for months on end and that's
Speaker 2: why people find nests and tree structures and whatever. But
Speaker 2: you know, after watching a lot of flash of beauty,
Speaker 2: I watched a gentleman. I can't remember his name. It
Speaker 2: was out of Vermont or what's the capital of Vermont there?
Speaker 3: I can't think of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know the one you're talking about. I'm
Speaker 1: blanking too. He because he does a lot what is
Speaker 1: that guy's name? It does a lot of tree structure stuf.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an alder.
Speaker 2: Guy's got glasses. He talks about how these things act
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot like how a autistic person would act.
Speaker 3: They know if you move and touch.
Speaker 2: Things, and they're loud and vocal, and they get mad
Speaker 2: at certain things, and they like things in a certain way,
Speaker 2: and they know how things are.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know if me and Dan.
Speaker 3: My biggest thing is this.
Speaker 2: I think that they only are I've heard this before,
Speaker 2: that they're coming here to this plane of dimension or
Speaker 2: realm or whatever certain months of the year, and maybe
Speaker 2: there's different ones that stay here all the time. I
Speaker 2: don't know, And obviously there's good ones and bad ones.
Speaker 2: Because the size of these rocks that they're throwing, i'd
Speaker 2: be dead. So that's the thing that makes me question,
Speaker 2: like if they wanted me dead and they were evil
Speaker 2: and there were some satanic evil demon, be dead already.
Speaker 3: Because these things are perfectly accurate.
Speaker 2: It's insane how accurate they are. It makes no sense.
Speaker 2: So I can't wrap my head around it because I
Speaker 2: think there's just so we're only getting a little glimpse
Speaker 2: of what these things are doing and what they're capable
Speaker 2: of what. So that's a weird people out that everybody
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, it's just a monkey. If I got
Speaker 2: to hear it's a monkey one more time, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lose my mind. It's not a monkey. It's not a monkey.
Speaker 2: There's no way it's a monkey. Oh well, then it's
Speaker 2: to me, No, you're not missing the point. I know
Speaker 2: it's not a monkey. You mean ape in general, Yes,
Speaker 2: I know, primate whatever, or And I will mention this.
Speaker 2: I started off like everybody did or most people do,
Speaker 2: when I started listening to these podcasts. I won't mention
Speaker 2: the specific podcast that got me into all this stuff,
Speaker 2: but at the time, I'm sure you'll.
Speaker 3: Put two and two together.
Speaker 2: When I sat mentioning it, it was about it's a
Speaker 2: lost chain of the evolutionary tree, and these things are
Speaker 2: no more than some type of branch off the Neanderthals
Speaker 2: or some whatever ostralopithecuss. And then they get in it.
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: These things they do kill, they do eat, they do live, they.
Speaker 3: Poop, they they pee, they leave RESIDU, they leave DNA.
Speaker 2: But there's so much to this that we don't know.
Speaker 2: And then everyone wants to put a label on it,
Speaker 2: like I know exactly what it. No, you don't, you
Speaker 2: don't know crap, I don't know crap. All I know
Speaker 2: is what I saw, and it's something not of this
Speaker 2: world that we're not used to. So I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's man, it is intense. And I'll tell you, like,
Speaker 1: I've only talked to a few people from Massachusetts, but
Speaker 1: this is one of the I would say, probably the
Speaker 1: most intense encounter series i've I've heard from Massachusetts. It's
Speaker 1: weird because you know, it's it's an area that you
Speaker 1: don't hear a lot about, this Plymouth area, which is
Speaker 1: you know, south of Austin, not quite the Cape. It's
Speaker 1: just an interesting area. But there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: swamps and stuff in there, and you've got like the
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Triangle right.
Speaker 2: Yes, weird area. I say what I said, there's got
Speaker 2: to be. So when they when I went out with
Speaker 2: those people that I got linked up with, and you're
Speaker 2: finding that big giant pile of muscleshells, Why is there
Speaker 2: a pile of one hundred plus muffles with a giant
Speaker 2: imprint in the reeds?
Speaker 3: Like this is right on the shore of a lake.
Speaker 3: There's a giant imprint. You can see it.
Speaker 2: It was like, I don't know, four feet wide, two
Speaker 2: foot you know deep, and it's just like what is that?
Speaker 3: Like, what are they doing, like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Are they here to like use resources like I mean,
Speaker 2: I've heard plenty of stories where these Native Americans, you know,
Speaker 2: say they see them near granite walls and they just
Speaker 2: disappear into a rock wall like, oh, they go through
Speaker 2: port like I don't know. And I think the thing
Speaker 2: is people try to put this thing into a category.
Speaker 2: There is no category. I'm if I had a best
Speaker 2: guess of what the what they are. Is there something
Speaker 2: that has been here and there's something that is beyond
Speaker 2: human comprehension. And I think that humans at one point,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: Believe what we've been told about.
Speaker 2: The history of the human race. I think the Bible
Speaker 2: has it mostly right. I think that it's also been manipulated.
Speaker 2: I think that there's giant pieces missing there. The elites
Speaker 2: that run the world don't want every normal person to
Speaker 2: know where we came from. And it's all about power
Speaker 2: and control.
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't need to run cars on oil
Speaker 3: and have Like the solar crap is stupid. It just
Speaker 3: pollutes more. All electric cars. Oh yeah, great, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I bought a Tesla. Look how great I am.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is just a facade. The whole thing,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I want to know it goes back
Speaker 2: to the great forgetting. They talk about the great forgetting
Speaker 2: where obviously the Pyramids aren't just to.
Speaker 3: Bury of Pharaoh. That's stupid.
Speaker 2: Who builds that that? You can't build today and you
Speaker 2: don't know how it works. But it's all laser measured,
Speaker 2: can't put a piece of paper between it between each.
Speaker 3: Of the rocks. But yet they did, Oh well, yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Built that to put the fast No, we're being lied
Speaker 2: to and I don't like it, and I want to
Speaker 2: know why we're being lied to. And these things have
Speaker 2: something to do with where we came from and who
Speaker 2: we are, and I don't like that.
Speaker 3: Certain people there's somebody, there's multiple.
Speaker 2: People on this planet right now that knows exactly what
Speaker 2: these things are. That's that's the sat vibe.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with that one hundred percent. They're definitely
Speaker 1: individuals that have more knowledge about this subject than the
Speaker 1: general The general public for sure does. So you know,
Speaker 1: you you experience all this stuff out when you're you're
Speaker 1: fishing in other places. Is it at the point where
Speaker 1: it's also following you home? Like there's weird stuff that
Speaker 1: happens at home as well.
Speaker 2: I get to a point where I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's paradolia or PARANOI I should say where I come
Speaker 2: out at night, Like I've got to like this is embarrassing.
Speaker 2: This has bothered me to the point where say, I'm alone,
Speaker 2: like my girlfriends at our house and my mother lives
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: I own my own house. My mother lives with me.
Speaker 2: I actually live in my childhood house. My long story short.
Speaker 2: Because of reasons that my mother couldn't keep the house,
Speaker 2: I had to step up.
Speaker 3: And buy it.
Speaker 2: So I own the house that I grew up and
Speaker 2: I've been here for thirty.
Speaker 3: Oh was it, Yeah, thirty years. We moved here when
Speaker 3: I was four, so I'm thirty four.
Speaker 2: I've owned this house thirty years. There have been really
Speaker 2: weird things that have happened around here, but not lately
Speaker 2: other than the fact that my buddy, well, the first
Speaker 2: weird thing I've ever noticed around And this is before
Speaker 2: I got into the subject at all.
Speaker 3: I didn't care. And mind you, I was stationed in
Speaker 3: Fort Lewis.
Speaker 2: There's Class A reports on Fort Lewis. I didn't give
Speaker 2: a crap up. Yeah, I didn't give a crap about that. Stuff.
Speaker 3: I was in the army. I was twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 3: I didn't care.
Speaker 2: I was out drinking and partying with people. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't care that sasquat.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Bigfoot is in Washington. Uhuh, Like nobody cared.
Speaker 2: So I lived in Bigfoot capital of the world and
Speaker 2: I didn't care. And come back here and then, you know,
Speaker 2: you get into the podcast a lot.
Speaker 3: But anyway to get back to it. When I was.
Speaker 2: Younger, I was, I was in high school and I
Speaker 2: don't know, I was fourteen fifteen, and me and my
Speaker 2: buddy were having a fire one time and were out
Speaker 2: near the woods and like I said, this twelve hundred
Speaker 2: and thirteen hundred because of the woods by my house.
Speaker 2: And we didn't drink back then. You know, I was
Speaker 2: a late bloomer.
Speaker 3: We didn't smoke weed. We're just sitting there having a fire.
Speaker 3: It was dead, quiet, was great.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, there's a you know, a twenty
Speaker 2: foot sapling that's still sapling. It's still you know, it's
Speaker 2: only like three inches at the base maple tree just shaking,
Speaker 2: and this thing is screaming, just this god awful screaming.
Speaker 2: And I had a you know back then, flashlight suck.
Speaker 3: There's no like led real stuff back then, and whatever.
Speaker 2: It's just like a stupid you know, three D CL
Speaker 2: maglight and I'm shining. There's nothing there, and I'm watching
Speaker 2: this tree went back and forth with this screaming, and
Speaker 2: it moved across my guard without a seeing it and
Speaker 2: was got into the corner of the other part of
Speaker 2: the ad. It's doing the same thing, and we're both
Speaker 2: just standing up. We stood up, we'll watch and there's
Speaker 2: nothing there. And it just screamed and went off into
Speaker 2: the woods.
Speaker 3: And my friend was like, what the frick was that?
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know, so we just it sounded
Speaker 2: like a dying goat, so we just called it the
Speaker 2: goat beast and he was like whatever. And I can
Speaker 2: remember when I got out of the army. I was
Speaker 2: twenty three, and I can with sitting at home and
Speaker 2: I was sitting in on the chair watching TV and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it sounded like somebody.
Speaker 3: Back the truck into the house.
Speaker 2: It was like boom, and the paintings on.
Speaker 3: The wall moved like the TV rattled.
Speaker 2: On the on the the cabinet. I go outside of
Speaker 2: the flashlight, nothing there what was that? So years go by,
Speaker 2: now I have what happened to me happened, and nothing
Speaker 2: remotely around, you know, within years and years with nothing
Speaker 2: happened on here. So I've had what happened.
Speaker 3: To me, but not here. So excuse me.
Speaker 2: My buddy is a really avid hunter.
Speaker 3: Not the guy that.
Speaker 2: I witnessed this with. This is another kid that I
Speaker 2: know that I met another job, and he's, you know,
Speaker 2: real into everything. He'll go to Maine, go bear hunting
Speaker 2: with dog with dogs, and go coon hunting all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And he goes, Hey, that property behind your house that's
Speaker 2: not posted. I said, no, She's like, you care if
Speaker 2: I use your Yeah, I don't pack my truck and
Speaker 2: go in there. I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 3: And sure I know. So he was going there.
Speaker 2: He was going in there four in the morning and
Speaker 2: he set up a tree stand. He come the next day.
Speaker 2: I'm at work until he's seven o'clock. He's coming out
Speaker 2: of there the other day. Off he goes, I am
Speaker 2: never going in there again. I said, what happened? He goes, Dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was, but it sounded like
Speaker 2: a bulldozer going through the woods, ripping trees down, smashing, screaming,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, did what did it sound like? He's like,
Speaker 2: it's it was screaming.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's like it was literally yards from me. It's like
Speaker 2: I had my headlight headlamp on it, and I'm watching
Speaker 2: the boy. It looked like Jurassic Pack when the raft
Speaker 2: is a killing the cow and I'm like, well, what happened.
Speaker 2: He's like, nothing, it took off and it was gone.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm never going in there again. And he's
Speaker 2: never been back since. So other than that, the only
Speaker 2: other thing I can think of was when I was
Speaker 2: in high school, me and my buddy Dan, the other
Speaker 2: one of my friend Dan he passed away. The other
Speaker 2: friend Dan, we would go out fishing down these fire
Speaker 2: roads where.
Speaker 3: This stuff happened.
Speaker 2: And we would be on bicycles and we had, you know,
Speaker 2: we made a fishing rod holders out of PBC pipe
Speaker 2: and we'd zip uh what do you call it, the
Speaker 2: host clamp them to the frame of the bike and stuff,
Speaker 2: and you'd have rod holders and we go out to
Speaker 2: these places. I remember getting ahead of him one day
Speaker 2: and I turned around and realized he's not there, so
Speaker 2: I stopped and I'm going Dan Dan, and our rock
Speaker 2: hit the back.
Speaker 3: Wheel of the bicycle.
Speaker 2: While I'm turned around, I watched it hit the fire
Speaker 2: and hit the.
Speaker 3: Ground, and I'm like okay. So I turn.
Speaker 2: Around and I go back and he's about one hundred
Speaker 2: foot back and his chain fell off. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you did you do a rocky?
Speaker 3: He's like no. I'm like, okay, well what no, my
Speaker 3: chain fell off. I was like, oh, so he's screwing
Speaker 3: with that. He didn't, And that was it. So these
Speaker 3: things have been there. I've had a really the other
Speaker 3: thing I can think of. I used to drive a rig.
Speaker 2: I'd have to drive the Stoton Mass It took me
Speaker 2: about an hour and one day I had to leave
Speaker 2: at like four in the morning. I used to have
Speaker 2: to drive the Lebanon, New Hampshire to go pick up
Speaker 2: a load, and.
Speaker 3: I left here at four and I'm driving my pickup.
Speaker 2: And I remember watching this. It just looked like a shadow.
Speaker 2: It was just it was the shape of a human,
Speaker 2: huge and it was so black that it absorbed light.
Speaker 3: It was weird.
Speaker 2: You know, like at night when you go out, your
Speaker 2: headlights suck more because the back when the road's wet,
Speaker 2: it's blacker, and it just the headlights.
Speaker 3: And that that's what it looked like.
Speaker 2: Is just walked across the road and it was a
Speaker 2: ways up though, and you're like, okay, And this is
Speaker 2: before I was even into any of this stuff, so
Speaker 2: it didn't matter in me. I'm like, okay, yeah, what
Speaker 2: was that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm too tired, I don't care. I
Speaker 3: don't want to go to work.
Speaker 2: This sucks.
Speaker 3: And that was it.
Speaker 2: So there has been weird things that have happened in
Speaker 2: my house, but for some reason, these things, I feel
Speaker 2: like I haven't gone back to any of these places
Speaker 2: after they screwed me. And it's almost like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it sounds dumb, but it's almost like they're respecting me
Speaker 2: by not screwing with me where I live.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because they have to have some type
Speaker 3: of not empathy, but not respect.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't think of the word. But they
Speaker 2: are not vindict These ones around here are not vindictive.
Speaker 2: They're not vengeful seeking, they're not trying to ruin my life.
Speaker 3: I do get creeped out though, coming out here at night.
Speaker 2: I mean the other oh yeah, the other night, I'm
Speaker 2: sitting out here, I come out.
Speaker 3: I don't sleep. I haven't saw him yet.
Speaker 2: It's from the war, from just stress. I just I
Speaker 2: push it to the limit every every time, I just gotta.
Speaker 2: I have to be dead tired and just hit this
Speaker 2: wall and then I'm like, okay, I'm going to bed.
Speaker 2: So I have a back porch that's one hundred feet
Speaker 2: from the woods, and I have a little table with
Speaker 2: an umbrella, and I came out to smoke a cigarette
Speaker 2: and it's dead quiet. All of a sudden, I hearaboom,
Speaker 2: and this massive tree fell mount and then I kept
Speaker 2: hearing weird voice, like we could hear mumbled voices, and
Speaker 2: then it just stopped. So we did just have a
Speaker 2: big storm come through. A bunch of trees came down.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, was it that or is it
Speaker 2: just is it these things and they pushed the tree
Speaker 2: down or is it me being paranoid and it was
Speaker 2: just a tree that was ready to fall because of
Speaker 2: the wind. I don't know, but there's definitely been really
Speaker 2: weird things around here. Another thing is and it kind
Speaker 2: of got me another little kid part of my yard
Speaker 2: now that's et our yard anymore. It's all woods now
Speaker 2: and it goes up to the main road. It was
Speaker 2: a field when I was a kid. My dad would
Speaker 2: mow it and the grass would get up about three
Speaker 2: hot foot high full for high, and my dad would
Speaker 2: mow it. Well. Then we gave up on it. But
Speaker 2: I remember being a little kid walking up there and
Speaker 2: there would be these big impressions in the in the
Speaker 2: high grass, huge, and there would always be a turred
Speaker 2: in the middle of it, like a big one, like
Speaker 2: it looked like a really really big human tard.
Speaker 3: And they'd be like, oh, I mean.
Speaker 2: And my friend would be hanging on me like what's
Speaker 2: that and be like, oh, that's where.
Speaker 3: A deer was.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, what's that And he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: let's put a geerpoop.
Speaker 3: And You're like okay, But what was it? I don't know.
Speaker 3: For all I know was a hobo that was just
Speaker 3: coming and crap.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just weird. It's just one of those weird things.
Speaker 2: And my father I remember him waking me up. He's
Speaker 2: passed away, but I might have been like eight or nine.
Speaker 2: He came to my room early on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: He goes, hey, did you hear that.
Speaker 3: I said no.
Speaker 2: He said, the son of like a Clydesdale running too
Speaker 2: the ad.
Speaker 3: I said, no, I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2: He's like I could feel it in my bed.
Speaker 3: I said, what do you mean.
Speaker 2: He's like I could feel the the something in my
Speaker 2: bed on the second floor, which is now my room.
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm okay. I'm like, no, I didn't mean.
Speaker 3: He's like that was strange, and I don't know. And
Speaker 3: that was it. But there's been weird stuff and.
Speaker 2: I've seen the dogs just lose their minds. Oh and
Speaker 2: the other thing I wanted to tell you that rock
Speaker 2: that it threw in the bed of the truck that
Speaker 2: one time at Halfway Pond. When I got home, I
Speaker 2: was curious. So I got a Jack Russell and a beagle.
Speaker 2: And the beagle is like kind of like a vegetable.
Speaker 3: I adopted her. She was like a breeder dog.
Speaker 2: Some piece of craft just used her to pump out
Speaker 2: puppies and left her in a kennel.
Speaker 3: So she's kind of like out of it.
Speaker 2: But the jack Russell, the male's I've had him since
Speaker 2: a puppy. He's a very smart dog. I took the
Speaker 2: rock and I went to see what he'd do, and
Speaker 2: I put it down on the ground, on the on
Speaker 2: the floor in the living room. He went over to it,
Speaker 2: smelled it, and went right in.
Speaker 3: His crate and he just sat there and looked at me.
Speaker 3: That's not normal. He was freaked out. I don't and
Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh, yeah, whatever, No, he looked. He was fine.
Speaker 2: His wagon sailor came up to me. He was happy,
Speaker 2: and he's fine. He loves to see me.
Speaker 3: I just said here and I put that rock down.
Speaker 2: He smelled it and he went nope, and he went
Speaker 2: right in the crate and sat there.
Speaker 3: So what was that? I don't know. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just telling you what I have witnessed.
Speaker 2: So the problem with this subject is you instantly get
Speaker 2: labeled a fruit gig and it sucks, especially around here,
Speaker 2: like you know this, this doesn't happen here, absolutely well
Speaker 2: because not, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think personally it happens there are
Speaker 1: just people are scared out of their minds to be labeled,
Speaker 1: as you just said, and no one talks about it. That.
Speaker 1: That's personally what I think, but me.
Speaker 2: Too, well, like when you listen to you talk about
Speaker 2: the off and then you listen because you and Wesden
Speaker 2: only to I listened to they talk about you both
Speaker 2: talk about down well not YouTube, but like the people
Speaker 2: you're interview down South, I mean they got booger, hollow booger,
Speaker 2: this watch out for the buggers. All these people they
Speaker 2: were raised around it, but it was still taboo to
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 3: It's not like Washington State.
Speaker 2: Where it's like, oh yeah, it's like a.
Speaker 3: Commercial thing here this place.
Speaker 2: Out of everywhere, this is the number one no no zone.
Speaker 3: You do not talk about it here. This is you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, God. You don't get many responses when you
Speaker 1: when you go around talking to people out in that
Speaker 1: area of New England, for sure. Is it a thing
Speaker 1: where you want these interactions to stop or or you're
Speaker 1: kind of okay with them.
Speaker 2: This is a weird feeling I get, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's based on reality or not, but what
Speaker 2: I'm assuming is this that one time it showed itself
Speaker 2: behind it in a walk behind the truck and Dan
Speaker 2: saw it and I didn't. I'm jealous of him in
Speaker 2: a weird way because it's what I want. My mind
Speaker 2: can't make itself up. I mean, I've seen their eyes,
Speaker 2: I've seen the outline of them, I've seen the cloud
Speaker 2: weird thing that I can't explain that makes no sense.
Speaker 3: But if I had a face to face encounter at
Speaker 3: twenty feet, I don't know what I would do. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't I'd probably pass out. I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like I don't. But yet, the other part
Speaker 2: of my brain's like, you want that, you want to
Speaker 2: see one. You want to just have that final piece
Speaker 2: of proof where it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks
Speaker 2: because it's for you. But I'm like, well, in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm like I already got to that point.
Speaker 3: I'm already there.
Speaker 2: It's just the thing is, what I saw could be
Speaker 2: labeled as anybody else in the industry could be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so did you actually see a seven foot tall sasquatch.
Speaker 3: Standing in front of you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then how do you know it's not a demon?
Speaker 2: How do you know it's not a ghost? How do
Speaker 2: you not?
Speaker 3: I don't know that, But I'm ninety percent sure that's
Speaker 3: what that.
Speaker 2: Frick it is, because it doesn't it lines up with that.
Speaker 3: It couldn't be.
Speaker 2: It's not skin walker, it's not a you know, obviously,
Speaker 2: it's definitely not a freaking bear. So none of it
Speaker 2: makes sense. So I have a gut feeling that if
Speaker 2: I went out tonight for some reason, like I said,
Speaker 2: being aware of these things, it's almost like the more
Speaker 2: you invite this into your life, the more you're going.
Speaker 1: To see it.
Speaker 3: So if I had a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Will power or well balls, I'd go out there tonight
Speaker 2: and I'd sit out there for the last place that's
Speaker 2: happened with me and Dan, and I would sit there
Speaker 2: and they would come.
Speaker 3: They would come.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact they would come because.
Speaker 3: It has nothing to really do with him.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm there now, they know I'm aware of them,
Speaker 2: and they're aware of me. So if I want to
Speaker 2: see one, I'm going to see one. Do I want
Speaker 2: to No, not right now, but yet I do. But
Speaker 2: I want that thing that everybody else gets. It'd be
Speaker 2: nice to be like I was driving to work and
Speaker 2: I saw one of these things walk right in front
Speaker 2: of me. Did I kind of see that a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was just a big giant shadow.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was.
Speaker 2: I want to see hair eyes, you know, the shine
Speaker 2: from the eyes. I want to see its mouth open.
Speaker 2: I want to see it's I want to see. But
Speaker 2: in a car driving, if I'm out in the woods
Speaker 2: where I used to go and one of these things
Speaker 2: is there, I don't think that I'm quite ready for that.
Speaker 2: But then again, I've been listening to these shows for
Speaker 2: a long time, and I've been listening to these interviews
Speaker 2: for a long time, and very rarely have I ever
Speaker 2: heard of them actually hurting anybody.
Speaker 3: I have heard it.
Speaker 2: It's just extremely rare. And again it goes back to
Speaker 2: what they did to me, and I saw how great
Speaker 2: they are with throwing. If they wanted to kill me,
Speaker 2: they would have killed me already. I'm kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: they could have easily, especially that one rock dude, that
Speaker 2: was the size of freaking basketball. I don't know how
Speaker 2: I told you know, you've got to be careful who
Speaker 2: you open up to about this stuff, So you kind
Speaker 2: of find a friend that's open to certain things, like
Speaker 2: do you believe in aliens?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wouldn't it, And I have a whole
Speaker 3: nother theory in aliens. I don't think they're actually.
Speaker 2: That good, But anyway, you try to open up the
Speaker 2: people and then I'm like, no, what are you doing.
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, you know what, never mind, I'm done.
Speaker 3: You know, like there's no point.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of it's almost like living I'll put
Speaker 2: it this way. I'm sure other veterans could relate to this,
Speaker 2: or cops or anybody that's been through something really really bad.
Speaker 2: You are the only person, most likely in your immediate
Speaker 2: family or group setting, work setting, whatever, that's gonna know
Speaker 2: what you went through, and you're gonna be the only
Speaker 2: person that has had that experience. So it's you kind
Speaker 2: of feel like an outcast because no one else is
Speaker 2: gonna get you. Now you add this into it, this
Speaker 2: is fairytale stuff to people. This is yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: one of your nuts. Just go where you're drinking.
Speaker 3: No, and like every other thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that's hallucinated off of drink, So
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It's kind of like once you
Speaker 2: get it, and this is kind of like a curse.
Speaker 2: It's not a horrible, evil curse that it's like ruined
Speaker 2: your life. I mean, I'm sure that there are people
Speaker 2: that actually have had this ruin their life. I mean
Speaker 2: in a way it is, I guess to me because
Speaker 2: I can't go in the wood by myself anymore, so
Speaker 2: I guess it did kind of, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: to dwell on it. It's just one of my hobbies.
Speaker 3: Went down the toilet, right, That's all I can, yeah say.
Speaker 1: It definitely affects different people in different ways, sometimes way
Speaker 1: worse than others. And it is interesting how there's seems
Speaker 1: to be a pattern where, you know, people that have
Speaker 1: had some heavy traumatic Oh no way, really, Oh man,
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 4: Your call has been forwarded.
Speaker 1: This is the wildest interview of all time. Let's try again.
Speaker 4: Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message.
Speaker 4: Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there goes the phone again, Jordan. That was really.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way that just happened. Again,
Speaker 1: Holy mackerel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, Okay, that was that was on my landline. Dude,
Speaker 2: There's no way that, dude. Listen, I've lived here for
Speaker 2: thirty years. That is the same phone number I've had.
Speaker 2: That's not the same phone. That phone has been in
Speaker 2: the same spot for three decades. I have never ever
Speaker 2: had this happen ever, in my entire life. And the
Speaker 2: phone again when I when you cut out, I looked
Speaker 2: at it. It never hung up. Well, it kept counting,
Speaker 2: It kept counting the minutes, the phone never went and nothing.
Speaker 1: Dude, it's it's so weird, you man, you definitely have
Speaker 1: some pretty intense stuff going on. I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: way to look at it. I would I would say
Speaker 1: there's probably some intense stuff going on. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: So here's my question to you. You've been doing this
Speaker 2: a lot longer than me, and you've known a lot.
Speaker 2: You have heard. There's stuff I haven't even fully touched
Speaker 2: your whole catalog of what you've done. Okay, so you've
Speaker 2: heard everything and everything. Okay, what do you really make
Speaker 2: of that phone?
Speaker 1: Usually? What so I hear from an a lot of
Speaker 1: other podcasters that have phone issues and usually so that's
Speaker 1: the weird thing because usually when it happens on my
Speaker 1: show is they're starting to talk about the person is
Speaker 1: starting to talk about we're more fringe topics like giants
Speaker 1: or nephylum or stuff where it's like they you know,
Speaker 1: they in quotation marks, really don't want that out there.
Speaker 1: So it's weird though, because you know yours. You haven't been.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I can't figure it out. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very.
Speaker 2: I think it's because, yes it is. I think it's
Speaker 2: because this is a very wealthy area and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of money around here. I mean, you got the cape,
Speaker 2: you got like I work and wear him, so you
Speaker 2: got on set all that stuff. Rochester, where I live,
Speaker 2: we don't even have a street like dude, like there's
Speaker 2: like they keep this, Yeah, they keep this. The houses
Speaker 2: around here are going for. This used to be like
Speaker 2: a redneck town. There was a blue collar town. Now
Speaker 2: it's all doctors and lawyers that work in Boston that
Speaker 2: you know, they don't mind driving an hour to work
Speaker 2: or they remotely work. So this became a very ritzy town.
Speaker 2: I live in a very ritzy town, and it was
Speaker 2: not like that when I was a child at all.
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if money has to do with this.
Speaker 2: I get really frustrated with what's going on because obviously
Speaker 2: the world's not the way it's supposed to be, and
Speaker 2: obviously we've been lied to. I mean, you can get
Speaker 2: into what's going on on the I mean, the news
Speaker 2: is full of the news is garbage anyways. But you
Speaker 2: look at you know, I voted for Trump now now,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're gonna get the files now, Oh nope,
Speaker 2: they don't need to. So what are you hiding? What
Speaker 2: do you what are you all playing this game? You
Speaker 2: all hold these secrets to the world, and where as
Speaker 2: a human human race, we're not allowed. We're not we're
Speaker 2: not worthy of knowing all this stuff. So what I
Speaker 2: think it's getting through is the veil is getting really thin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and people are starting to wake up and they don't
Speaker 2: like it, and it's scaring them because now you know
Speaker 2: they did they played the left and the right, and
Speaker 2: now people are starting to go, hey, they screwed me over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they screwed me too. Well really exactly. Oh well, oh geez, well,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't hate you anymore. I think
Speaker 2: we have this common enemy. Oh really, that's the common enemy.
Speaker 2: It's the people that hold the secrets. And I don't
Speaker 2: like it and it bothers meself. I'm not afraid of them.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of them.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's wild, wild stuff, Jordan, and man, like
Speaker 1: you're I can percent say, like your your story is
Speaker 1: not just in the past thing like, there's probably going
Speaker 1: to be stuff that continue to happen.
Speaker 2: If I went out right now, if I went out
Speaker 2: right to where I was at and I stayed till dusk,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have something happen to me. And that's
Speaker 2: what I know, and that's what stops me from doing it.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not paranoia anymore. It's a fact,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just a fact that
Speaker 2: that's what sucks, dude. And I'm stuck now. So when
Speaker 2: I want to go fishing, I have to go in
Speaker 2: highly public areas because they won't do it there. So
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I got to drive down to the
Speaker 2: So I don't care who I've already you know, I've
Speaker 2: already gaven away a bunch of places. So around here,
Speaker 2: everybody goes to this place called the Lakes, and that's
Speaker 2: down in Lakeville Middleborough Line, and it's technically one big lake,
Speaker 2: but they divided it with a causeway and it's the
Speaker 2: quitt Kiss Little quitt Kiss ask a WM set that stuff.
Speaker 2: If I go out, that's where that stuff happened. And
Speaker 2: if I go out there right now, because these things
Speaker 2: know im, I'm aware of them, I'm going to have
Speaker 2: stuff happen to me and I don't want it to.
Speaker 2: So I feel like I'm a prisoner. So it's like
Speaker 2: I work all day, I work hard, I do a good,
Speaker 2: honest living, and all I want to do is have
Speaker 2: my peace, and I can't have that anymore. And I
Speaker 2: don't think they really mean harm like I said, but
Speaker 2: it's like it's still enough to startle you and just
Speaker 2: to be like, I'm done. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I even actually called one of my sergeants from the army.
Speaker 2: I won't mention his name, but he grew up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty sure it's not Cherokee's chalk Dow.
Speaker 2: And I asked him what to do, and he goes,
Speaker 2: You've got to go out there and leave him something
Speaker 2: and then they'll leave you alone. And I'm like really,
Speaker 2: he goes, yep. I said, okay. Well, even at that,
Speaker 2: I still don't want to risk it. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different people definitely have. You know, that's one that's
Speaker 1: one thing that does usually come up. Some people will
Speaker 1: even you know, use prayer, use the name of Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ in order to say, okay, leave me alone and
Speaker 1: they'll use it. It's really you know, different people end
Speaker 1: up using different things and it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do of like, Okay, what are you putting your faith in.
Speaker 1: It's very strange, but different things do seem to have
Speaker 1: you know, different different things work for different people. It's
Speaker 1: very strange the stories that you hear. But I think
Speaker 1: at this point, you know you don't want things to happen,
Speaker 1: so you're not going out. But it man, imagine if
Speaker 1: you could get to the point where you could kind
Speaker 1: of stop things from happening and then you could go
Speaker 1: enjoy the woods again, right or fishing.
Speaker 2: It's just why are they choosing to Because where I
Speaker 2: go there's people out there at night all the time.
Speaker 2: They're not get involved. So it's it's strange, and it
Speaker 2: comes down back to I'm aware of them, and they
Speaker 2: know that I'm aware of them, so then they're going
Speaker 2: to make their presence known and then I go, okay,
Speaker 2: it's time to go. And what that Native American sergeant
Speaker 2: I had told me was basically, you know they are
Speaker 2: aware of you, and you're aware of them, and now
Speaker 2: you both know each other, and now they want you
Speaker 2: to leave because they're there to do their thing. They're
Speaker 2: there to grab fish, they're there to grab muscles, are
Speaker 2: there to get their their energy or their you know,
Speaker 2: gathering whatever, and they want you out. And okay, so
Speaker 2: why don't you do that to everybody? Why aren't you
Speaker 2: doing that to other people that are there fishing late
Speaker 2: at night. I talked to plenty of guys in the night,
Speaker 2: say hey, you go down there at night? Yeah, anything happen? Nope, Okay,
Speaker 2: So it's just really weird. Why I'm the one that's
Speaker 2: getting bothered. It just it makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Jordan, what what a conversation. I mean I never would
Speaker 1: have thought just stuff like you're experiencing is going on
Speaker 1: in that corner of Massachusetts. I mean, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that we got connected and that you were able to
Speaker 1: to share what you experienced over the years. And you know, please,
Speaker 1: you know, if stuff does happen in the future, you know,
Speaker 1: please feel free to reach out if you have any updates.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just just such an interesting story. It's intense,
Speaker 1: and man, I hope the best best for you with
Speaker 1: all this. I think you're going to get a handle
Speaker 1: on it even more than you do now. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Well I hope I do. I just I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm it's still fresh, dude, I don't think
Speaker 2: I can it's still there. I don't think that I'm
Speaker 2: going to be alone in the woods anytime soon. Definitely
Speaker 2: not at night. That's the thing. I'll go out, I'll
Speaker 2: go out, you know. I mean, here's the other thing.
Speaker 4: Me and Dan.
Speaker 2: Went out in May and looked for antlers and he
Speaker 2: had a gun on them and we were out in
Speaker 2: those same woods and nothing happened. So there's one instance
Speaker 2: where nothing happened, and I pushed my anxiety level to
Speaker 2: the max and we you know, we separated and I
Speaker 2: don't own the firearm and nothing happened. It's okay, there's
Speaker 2: one instance, but I'm not going to make it a
Speaker 2: regular thing. I'll get a handle on it and it
Speaker 2: will be good. I just again, like you said, that's
Speaker 2: something you don't hear from here. And and I hope
Speaker 2: at least this. I hope that if somebody listens to this,
Speaker 2: that's there's going to be people that listen to this
Speaker 2: knows exactly what I'm talking about. There, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: people that are that listen to your show, Like I
Speaker 2: know where that is I know where that is. I
Speaker 2: know where that is, and hopefully one of them has
Speaker 2: had something where I can listen to a future show
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, I listened to that guy Jordan
Speaker 2: that came on and he gave me the inspiration to
Speaker 2: come on and say this. That way I can hear
Speaker 2: it and know that I'm not totally freaking nutscent.
Speaker 1: And I love when when that works and people pretty
Speaker 1: much encourage other people to come on and ends up
Speaker 1: helping them and it's a it's a back and forth.
Speaker 1: But man, Jordan, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. We will definitely be in touch. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for reaching out. Dude, no promn Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Bigfoot Society. And also
Speaker 1: a special thanks to Jordan from Massachusetts, whose episode actually
Speaker 1: in real time, took hours and hours in order to
Speaker 1: be recorded, but was well worth it in the end.
Speaker 1: To those that are listening to the show that might
Speaker 1: not want this to continue, hey, thanks for listening and
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