Speaker 1: The world of college basketball crown and national champ. Last night,
Speaker 1: Florida Gators their third title in the two thousands, which
Speaker 1: puts them second behind the Yukon Huskies. Our next guest
Speaker 1: is our college basketball north Star and our life north
Speaker 1: Star for honest, Ken Pomeroy on a Tuesday Kenpalm dot com.
Speaker 2: How are we doing, Buddy, doing great?
Speaker 3: Fans? Just kind of reflecting on the season that was.
Speaker 3: In my position, it always goes by pretty quickly. I
Speaker 3: know for other people in the game they think it
Speaker 3: takes forever, but for me, it just flies by.
Speaker 1: So when we last spoke, you had escaped the chili
Speaker 1: cold weather of Salt Lake in exchange for I believe Calgary.
Speaker 2: Is that where you were when we last spoke?
Speaker 3: That's correct?
Speaker 2: And where do we find you now? Ken? Where's your location?
Speaker 3: Still in Calgary?
Speaker 2: Still in Calgary? Who spends that much time? Do you
Speaker 2: want to tell us what you're doing? Or no?
Speaker 3: It's not that exciting. I mean I can, I can.
Speaker 3: I can work you through the back, working through the
Speaker 3: thought process if you want.
Speaker 2: Yes, I want all of it.
Speaker 1: Ken, We've got four hours of radio to do, so
Speaker 1: build the space, sir.
Speaker 3: Well, I so here's the deal. I'm as you know,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of self employed, you know, work on my own,
Speaker 3: can work remotely in cases where I'm not self employed,
Speaker 3: and it's just really productive for me to like get
Speaker 3: away from you know, distractions and stuff at home. And
Speaker 3: you know, my life situation allows me to do that.
Speaker 3: So so that's mostly the uh that supposedly logic look.
Speaker 2: Good for you. I'm not judging. I wish I had
Speaker 2: that type of freedom.
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of my friends that are in the
Speaker 1: same position you are, where they can be like I'm
Speaker 1: just going to Bali for ten days because I can
Speaker 1: work from there. So hey, look, Calgary's beautiful. I have
Speaker 1: a brother in law from Calgary. He and my sister
Speaker 1: were married up there. So I'm not judging. I just
Speaker 1: for me, Ken, if I had the opportunity to get away,
Speaker 1: I think I would choose a beach.
Speaker 2: That's that's just me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I'm not I'm not judging you either.
Speaker 3: Spots like I get how people why people would want
Speaker 3: to go to a beach, and I can appreciate that,
Speaker 3: but the beach is not my my lifestyle, So okay,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, Tomato, Tomato. Ken, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Are we judging the Houston Cougars for that collapse. Let's
Speaker 1: start in a vacuum, then we'll pan back. And I
Speaker 1: was actually thinking about you when Houston went up twelve,
Speaker 1: because I believe with your metrics, this is the best
Speaker 1: defensive basketball team in college basketball. And not to be
Speaker 1: redundant there, but I watched them snatch souls from Big
Speaker 1: twelve teams this year, and when they went up twelve, Ken,
Speaker 1: I thought, that's curtains.
Speaker 2: So what do you make.
Speaker 1: Let's start with a Houston side of how they collapse
Speaker 1: down the stretch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so too. I thought the walls were
Speaker 3: closing in on Florida, and you know, Florida had dodged
Speaker 3: a few bullets to get to the championship game. And
Speaker 3: then I thought this was it for them. Like you say,
Speaker 3: it seemed like Houston was, you know, it was on
Speaker 3: a mission after closing out that dude game. The way
Speaker 3: they did, they're pretty much fire and also under especially defensively.
Speaker 3: The way they kind of figured out how to, you know,
Speaker 3: eventually take Walter Clayton out of the game. I mean,
Speaker 3: that was that was the one thing that you didn't
Speaker 3: really think was possible, and they had done it up
Speaker 3: to that point. So at that point, yeah, I thought
Speaker 3: that the game was over. And there were a couple
Speaker 3: of things that went against some One was that both
Speaker 3: they're big man ended up getting four fouls, you know,
Speaker 3: shortly after taking that lead, and so they had to
Speaker 3: play small for a little bit, and some of that
Speaker 3: you know, length that has propelled them to having the
Speaker 3: number one rated defense was on the bench, and Florida
Speaker 3: was able to get me a little bit of flow offensively.
Speaker 3: That was the main thing. But the other thing was,
Speaker 3: like Houston's offense was pretty brutal all night. I mean,
Speaker 3: you got to give obviously credit to Florida's defense, but really,
Speaker 3: you know, you go back to even the Duke game,
Speaker 3: and Houston's offense was not great. Now, they did make threes,
Speaker 3: and that kind of you know, covered up what was
Speaker 3: an awful two point shooting night for them against too.
Speaker 3: They only made thirty three percent of their twos against Duke.
Speaker 3: They only made forty one percent against Florida, and it's
Speaker 3: just hard to overcome that. And that's been the that
Speaker 3: was the story for Houston all season long. You can
Speaker 3: look at their profile. Almost everything is good or acceptable
Speaker 3: except the two point shooting, which was just absolutely dreadful,
Speaker 3: and it was, you know, kind of a minor miracle
Speaker 3: they were able to go as far as they did.
Speaker 3: They ultimately finished the season ranked two ninety six and
Speaker 3: two point percent. So in some way, it's an incredible
Speaker 3: coaching job Makelvin Sampson to get to the last game
Speaker 3: of the season with that kind of number.
Speaker 1: So a lot of attention today on poor Emmanuel Sharp,
Speaker 1: who is a really really good player and is a junior,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to what Houston has coming back next year.
Speaker 2: I want to talk some Big twelve in a moment.
Speaker 1: I mean the way too early top twenty five stuff
Speaker 1: that Borsello wrote for ESPN dot com today. He has
Speaker 1: Houston has won as a result to who they could
Speaker 1: potentially return, and then a grip of transfers.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1: And look, my sincere hope for Emmanuel Sharp is that
Speaker 1: he comes back as a senior and has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to kind of redeem himself because they're not there without him.
Speaker 1: He was the main point of attack defenseman on Walter
Speaker 1: Clayton junior. He was the guy that was tasked with
Speaker 1: guarding potentially the best league guard in the tournament and
Speaker 1: the final foremost outstanding player, and Clayton Junior did not
Speaker 1: get his first point until about fourteen thirty seven left
Speaker 1: in the game and didn't hit his first three until
Speaker 1: there was three minutes left. I mean, I thought Sharp
Speaker 1: did a really good job on him, and he had
Speaker 1: a good solid tournament, but down the stretch, back to
Speaker 1: back turnovers, and I don't know what exactly the deal
Speaker 1: was when I went back and watched the replay Canada,
Speaker 1: the final play where Sharp rose up and then it
Speaker 1: was a really good contest by Walter Clayton Junior that
Speaker 1: caused him to simply have to drop the ball or
Speaker 1: else it would have been a travel. When you watch
Speaker 1: the action on the strong side, it was a misdirect
Speaker 1: and a ball screen for LJ.
Speaker 2: Cryer.
Speaker 1: But Emmanuel Sharp just either ran out of time or
Speaker 1: wasn't patient enough. And I'm not saying it's all on him,
Speaker 1: but what do you make of four straight possessions to
Speaker 1: finish the game for Houston where they didn't even get
Speaker 1: a shot, Like that's wild to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is unbelievable. Yeah, for a team that you know, generally,
Speaker 3: like the one thing you could say about Houston was that,
Speaker 3: you know, they they wouldn't panic. You know, they they're
Speaker 3: a very experienced team and they're going to at least
Speaker 3: execute properly. They have their limitations offensively, and we you know,
Speaker 3: alluded to that, but certainly, yeah, you watch that final play.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a little it's a little reminiscent of
Speaker 3: like the I mean, this is for the real olds
Speaker 3: out there, but you know, the eighty three title game.
Speaker 3: There are people making all these comparisons to that game,
Speaker 3: and you know, Anti State's final possession in that game
Speaker 3: was similar in the sense that it was like just
Speaker 3: terribly executed. Ultimately it turned out to work in that situation.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you already watched that last possession for Houston,
Speaker 3: and it's like people are sort of like trying to
Speaker 3: that screens but not really committed to it, and so
Speaker 3: obviously nobody's getting open and then yeah, Manuel Strips is
Speaker 3: kind of left with a choice there, and in the
Speaker 3: moment he made it. Really that choice. To me, I
Speaker 3: think you had the you know, in the moment, you
Speaker 3: just have to like let that thing fly, throw your
Speaker 3: leg out do something draw some contact. Of course the
Speaker 3: official to make a call, but yeah, overall, the execution
Speaker 3: down the stretch by Houston was pretty dreadful.
Speaker 1: Now to your earlier point, you know, you can't talk
Speaker 1: about these things without acknowledging both sides of the coin.
Speaker 1: What did Florid to do can to turn it on
Speaker 1: in the second half defensively after going down by twelve,
Speaker 1: because even going into locker room, I just had this
Speaker 1: sense like Houston's a better team, this is this is
Speaker 1: their time. Were there specific adjustments that Todd Golden made
Speaker 1: in the locker room at halftime or in the second
Speaker 1: half that caused so much chaos for Houston?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know they were necessarily specific adjustment. I
Speaker 3: mean the first half they actually were fine defensively, like
Speaker 3: they you know, Houston wasn't scoring at will on them,
Speaker 3: they were getting a few offensive rebounds, and I think
Speaker 3: that's where Porta clean some things up in the second half,
Speaker 3: really preventing more offensive rebounds and also taking care of
Speaker 3: the ball offensively to prevent Houston from you know, operating
Speaker 3: against you know, not a set defense when they did
Speaker 3: get the ball. But I think that's the one thing
Speaker 3: that you know, I was really kind of impressed with
Speaker 3: with Florida in the end. You look at the box
Speaker 3: score and I think you will see Houston at fifteen
Speaker 3: offensive rebounds and they're like, wow, that's you know, that's
Speaker 3: a great game for Houston. But actually there were so
Speaker 3: many missshots that in the end it was a Poppinsove
Speaker 3: rebounding crecent of thirty two percent, which is below Houston
Speaker 3: season average. So so you know, preventing those second chance
Speaker 3: points certainly helped. Houston had a you know, miserable day shooting,
Speaker 3: and you could put together I mean, I hate to
Speaker 3: say it, but you know, just among us a private
Speaker 3: company here, I mean my little us, and you could
Speaker 3: put together a highlight reel for him in that game
Speaker 3: with just some incredibly misshots, I mean just missing everything
Speaker 3: multiple times. You know, that was an issue as well.
Speaker 3: And I don't like Florida, you know, maybe sped up
Speaker 3: Houston a little bit, but man, a lot of it
Speaker 3: is just like Houston, you know, not coming to play
Speaker 3: when it came to the three point shot. And you know,
Speaker 3: as we mentioned, they they're really deficient on two and
Speaker 3: where they've been able to overcome that is by having
Speaker 3: guys like Sharp and ljre Cryer and who's in him? You know,
Speaker 3: make some threes and that just didn't happen last night.
Speaker 1: Todd Golden, at the age of thirty nine, becomes the
Speaker 1: youngest head coach to win a national championship since Jim
Speaker 1: Valvano in eighty three when he was thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1: And if you didn't know any better, and you were
Speaker 1: watching the postgame celebration, you would have said, why are
Speaker 1: they interviewing the team manager? I mean, he looks like
Speaker 1: a kid, and he's got his hat on backwards and
Speaker 1: he's enjoying the moment. How has he been able to
Speaker 1: do this after a brief stop I think it was
Speaker 1: San Francisco and just in a few short years, how
Speaker 1: have they been able to build Florida into a national champ.
Speaker 3: Well, it's they've just done a brilliant job of creating
Speaker 3: a roster. You know, they've been able to get some
Speaker 3: useful transfers, and you know, he ended up building a
Speaker 3: team like we saw but Houston, like we saw with Auburn,
Speaker 3: that's a very experienced team and you know it had
Speaker 3: like champion should experience some extent, you know, Elijah Martin
Speaker 3: really playing a key role for this team coming over
Speaker 3: from Florida Atlantic. In addition, you know, they had you know,
Speaker 3: more front court depth probably than than you know, any
Speaker 3: Power Conference team, and they just hit on these guys
Speaker 3: like you know, some of these guys I think people
Speaker 3: became familiar with in the tournament. You know, Thomas Howe
Speaker 3: for one, I mean he comes off the bench for
Speaker 3: this team, and you know he'd be starting for probably
Speaker 3: most SEC teams, but for this team, he comes off
Speaker 3: the bench. And that's just a you know, a statement
Speaker 3: on how much depth this team has upfront and how
Speaker 3: they were you know, able to kind of exploit that
Speaker 3: against Houston, and Houston you know, got into foul trouble
Speaker 3: up front, they didn't have guys they could go through
Speaker 3: and they had to go ahead and play small. Florida
Speaker 3: really didn't have to do that over the course of
Speaker 3: the season. So it was really a you know, a
Speaker 3: great job in building a roster and just a phenomenal run.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I don't know what else
Speaker 3: to say about it. It was you have to be impressed.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when Golden took the Floorida top
Speaker 3: and I mean I had heard through you know, second
Speaker 3: hand channels that he wasn't even like, yeah, he's a
Speaker 3: little hasn't it taken? He wasn't sure like if that
Speaker 3: was the jump that he wanted to make. And I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously I think he made the right decision. Aloy, he
Speaker 3: worked through the math and realized, yeah, you can actually
Speaker 3: have a lot of stress in Florida. You proved it
Speaker 3: pretty quickly here.
Speaker 1: I know you're not a scout, but you are a
Speaker 1: basketball guy that watches these games all year long. And
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's so interesting, Ken, because watching this
Speaker 1: tournament really my whole life. There are so many great
Speaker 1: individual tournament performances or even seasons by guards and players
Speaker 1: that turn out to just be excellent college players and
Speaker 1: they just don't have the size or the speed or
Speaker 1: the strength to get it done of the pros. And
Speaker 1: we have local examples of that. The number one example
Speaker 1: might be Jimmer, who was an incredible college player and
Speaker 1: that ride was so fun. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: don't like byu. Jim Ormania was a real thing that
Speaker 1: was really cool, and he was incredible to watch in college.
Speaker 1: And I could name a grip of player. Randolph Schilders
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on, and I
Speaker 1: don't know where I'm at with Walter Clayton Junior as
Speaker 1: a pro. But after watching Just the Stones to take
Speaker 1: and make big shots I was reading today, I think
Speaker 1: it was Gaivoni that compared him to Ben Gordon, who
Speaker 1: turned out to be a combo scoring guard in the
Speaker 1: pros with a long career, including the sixth Man of
Speaker 1: the Year after a really really good career at Yukon.
Speaker 1: But what do you think Walter Clayton Junior did for
Speaker 1: his pro prospects? And do you think he's a long
Speaker 1: term NBA guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of what you
Speaker 3: were saying I would echo, like, I'm not totally sure either.
Speaker 3: He's obviously a very good college player. He has some
Speaker 3: some vertical athleticism, you know, the tricky He's a little
Speaker 3: on the older side, so you know, kind of the
Speaker 3: challenge I think of modern day you know, evaluation of
Speaker 3: these players in the draft is that so many of
Speaker 3: them are, you know, a little bit older than they
Speaker 3: than they were five to ten years ago. So I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I think I'm probably a little
Speaker 3: more negative on him than maybe the consensuses I think
Speaker 3: there's certainly the opportunity though, Like clearly, you know you
Speaker 3: couldn't help but watch him through this tournament, and it's
Speaker 3: not like Florida had an easy path, Like they had
Speaker 3: a very difficult path, and they were constantly in these
Speaker 3: very challenging games, and he would make play after play.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a very good shooter. There's some questions
Speaker 3: I think on the on the defensive end that you know,
Speaker 3: if he could answer those, that would really enhance the stock.
Speaker 3: But you know, teams are going to obviously be focusing
Speaker 3: on that and put them through the ringer on that
Speaker 3: over the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: Before we get some local storylines. Let's remove ourselves from
Speaker 1: the vacuum of the National Championship game and pan back
Speaker 1: a little bit because I have not been able to
Speaker 1: talk to you since we saw, Like if Houston's collapse
Speaker 1: was an eight out of ten, Duke's collapse was a
Speaker 1: ten out of ten against the Houston Cougars.
Speaker 2: And Sion James is.
Speaker 1: A really good player, and I'm not piling on any
Speaker 1: of these young men. I think if you're John Shier,
Speaker 1: you have to realize that your guy is paining down
Speaker 1: his leg every time he's trying to inbound the ball
Speaker 1: on the baseline and figure something else out. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, nine to zero run over the course of
Speaker 1: what the final forty seconds. I've heard a lot of
Speaker 1: people pile on Cooper, which I think is unfair.
Speaker 2: I thought that over the.
Speaker 1: Back call was atrocious. He hit their only bucket of
Speaker 1: the final I think nine minutes. It's wild that they
Speaker 1: went nine minutes without a bucket. Proctor couldn't get it going.
Speaker 1: I like the Konk Nipple kid. I wondered if they
Speaker 1: should have kind of allowed him to inbound the basketball,
Speaker 1: but their inability to sim please handle pressure to the
Speaker 1: point of just getting the ball in bounds. Just like
Speaker 1: Houston and Emmanuel Sharp will remember the loss from last night.
Speaker 1: Zion James and the Duke Blue Devils are gonna wear
Speaker 1: that one for a long long time.
Speaker 2: That felt like it's stung. How did you digest that one?
Speaker 3: Oh? No question? I mean yeah, I mean this Duke
Speaker 3: team was kind of poised to, uh, you know, etch
Speaker 3: themselves among some of the great team in college basketball history.
Speaker 3: And in order to complete that, you have to, you know,
Speaker 3: you have to win it all. And they were trying
Speaker 3: to do that. I mean, yeah, to blow, you know
Speaker 3: blow the kind of lead they had against a team
Speaker 3: that you know, wh I was that Houston's offensively challenged.
Speaker 3: Obviously they can make some three yasons. That was partly
Speaker 3: what they did. They come from behind. But you know,
Speaker 3: it really seemed to me like Duke was there came
Speaker 3: a point there, I don't know, eight nine minutes ago
Speaker 3: where Duke got kind of tentative. You know, like if
Speaker 3: you watch like the Albam why You game, Like when
Speaker 3: Alabama got ahead, they just kept playing right, they just
Speaker 3: kept chucking up threes, and Duke when they got ahead,
Speaker 3: really got tentative. They started passing on open threes. You know,
Speaker 3: Flag did that at least once, and you know Cnipple
Speaker 3: did it once, and I think Procter did it once.
Speaker 3: And you go back and watch those possessions and you
Speaker 3: know they look kind of they look kind of nice.
Speaker 3: On one hand, like all these guys are being so unselfish,
Speaker 3: you know, they're making the extra pass, but then they
Speaker 3: keep making the extra pass, and then Cooper Flag would
Speaker 3: get it and have to like you know, throw up
Speaker 3: a turn around you know, shot from the elbow, which
Speaker 3: like if anybody can make it, he can, but those
Speaker 3: are difficult shots and they weren't falling, and to me,
Speaker 3: that's where the avalanche kind of started. Obviously, not being
Speaker 3: able to get the ball in bounds is is an issue,
Speaker 3: and I don't know what I don't know what John
Speaker 3: Shires feeling. You know, remember that like football player, but
Speaker 3: he was running. It seemed like you know last year
Speaker 3: or two where everybody would line up on the baseline
Speaker 3: and you know, run down the court and then cut
Speaker 3: back like Duke was trying to, like, you know, have
Speaker 3: everybody come to the base line. And Houston was pretty
Speaker 3: easily able to defend that. So that was the issue.
Speaker 3: And then you also bring up the Cooper flag fowl,
Speaker 3: which you know, we shouldn't we shouldn't forget. People just
Speaker 3: kind of like dismissed that. But that game was so
Speaker 3: physical over the last two minutes and they kind of
Speaker 3: call that foul on Cooper flag And if you actually
Speaker 3: be good back and watch the replay of that, Juwan
Speaker 3: Roberts is the one boxing him out when the whistle blows.
Speaker 3: Like Juwan roberts instinct is that he thinks the fouls
Speaker 3: on him and he's kind of like it's kind of
Speaker 3: like throwing up his arms like why are you humming
Speaker 3: the whistle? And yeah, it was actually on couper flag,
Speaker 3: and so you know, if they don't call that bal
Speaker 3: he Houston still probably has the ball and has a
Speaker 3: chance to win. But that obviously made things a little
Speaker 3: bit easier for for Houston to pull it out. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that was, you know, a wild game, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: one that's gonna it's gonna hurt for a long time
Speaker 3: to do seams.
Speaker 1: The Auburn loss to Florida wasn't as epic of a collapse,
Speaker 1: but it kind of felt like in a way, Auburn
Speaker 1: also allowed Florida to steal that one from them. Like
Speaker 1: my takeaways from these games in the final four is
Speaker 1: credit the team certainly that stayed in the fight and
Speaker 1: found a way to win, but every team that won
Speaker 1: seemed to get a little bit of a gift from
Speaker 1: their opponent. They went away from Johnny Broom, who had
Speaker 1: thirteen points with sixteen minutes left and had I think
Speaker 1: two points the rest of the way, and it felt
Speaker 1: like he was their one clear advantage, not just getting
Speaker 1: buckets but also creating space for his teammates and Florida
Speaker 1: again comes back they were down and they outscore Auburn
Speaker 1: forty one to twenty seven in the second half. What
Speaker 1: do you make of the way the Auburn Tigers went out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought Broom was he was so banged
Speaker 3: up heading into that game, and I don't think people
Speaker 3: really realized how bad the elbow was. He was able
Speaker 3: to work through it and you know, be reasonably productive,
Speaker 3: but I mean, overall, one of his least productive games
Speaker 3: this season. And you know, ultimately, like Auburn's constructed a
Speaker 3: little bit different than Florida or Florida's you know, They've
Speaker 3: got Walter Clayton, but they got a lot of other
Speaker 3: like guys that can contribute, you know, and in high
Speaker 3: volume if they need it. Auburn really doesn't have that,
Speaker 3: Like they they play through Jannipery, which the night room
Speaker 3: is not productive. Uh, they don't have anybody else that
Speaker 3: they can rely on to pick up the slag, any
Speaker 3: kind of all hands on deck to do that. And
Speaker 3: you know, guys like Denver Jones and Ted Baker, Baker
Speaker 3: Mazzara tried to do that in that game, but you know,
Speaker 3: ultimately just wasn't quite enough. And really, like that's the
Speaker 3: thing when you look back to on this Florida run,
Speaker 3: like you know, people are gonna maybe forget about the
Speaker 3: fact that you know, in multiple games here Florida was
Speaker 3: was trailing really on the wrong side look like the
Speaker 3: win probability draft. There were times where they were significantly
Speaker 3: on the wrong side of fifty percent in their last
Speaker 3: three games, and they were able to pull each of
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: A couple of local storylines ken and shout out to
Speaker 1: the Northeast Conference, shout out to the Central Connecticut Blue Devils.
Speaker 1: But my question is about a player who's now transferred
Speaker 1: to play at the University of Utah from Fairleigh Dickinson FDU,
Speaker 1: and it is the first transfer portal addition from the
Speaker 1: outside count of DAWs back to play for aj next year.
Speaker 1: But Terrence Brown one of the top ten scores in
Speaker 1: college basketball twenty one points per game and was a
Speaker 1: leading scorer for FDU, and I believe the leading scorer
Speaker 1: in that conference. And according to on three on three Sports,
Speaker 1: he is a four star transfer with a Composite rating
Speaker 1: of ninety three point two out of one hundred. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you I was grinding on FDU
Speaker 1: tape this year. But your college basketball savants, any insight
Speaker 1: on this young man who's now going to be in
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City playing for Alex Jensen Raphael Chillis CHILEUS
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll look find I haven't broken down the tape
Speaker 3: on him. I will tell you that, like somebody making
Speaker 3: that big of a jump, like some of the scoring
Speaker 3: will transfer. But you know, you see this a lot
Speaker 3: of times at that level where you know, the program
Speaker 3: gets a guy who's just like, you know, I was
Speaker 3: able to say it, like, you know, fairly taking it
Speaker 3: probably low major right, like they're below mid major. So
Speaker 3: you get a guy who maybe you know was a
Speaker 3: mid major type player at your school and he just
Speaker 3: kind of dominates the ball. And so that's the story
Speaker 3: with Terrence Brown, Like he you know, obviously a big
Speaker 3: time scorer, but also just dominated possessions for them, you know,
Speaker 3: at the ball all the time. And I assume his
Speaker 3: role will change a little bit at the big twelve level,
Speaker 3: and typically you do see not typically, but almost all
Speaker 3: the time, the roles for these guys shrink. The question
Speaker 3: is how much will it shrink? Will it you know,
Speaker 3: will he still be a go to guy at Utah.
Speaker 3: I would be a little skeptical that you know, he's
Speaker 3: probably just ends up. I don't think it'd be like
Speaker 3: A said, a true role player, but something in between.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna be a guy second, third, fourth option.
Speaker 3: I think on a average big twelve offense, like that's
Speaker 3: kind of what you should be shooting for there. And
Speaker 3: so it's gonna be up to say ja to you know,
Speaker 3: fill in you know, around him with other guys that
Speaker 3: are gonna be able to score, because if you if
Speaker 3: you let him play the role that he played at
Speaker 3: a fairly ticket, that probably won't.
Speaker 1: Go well well said if I asked you about this,
Speaker 1: forgive me, I don't remember what I had for breakfast
Speaker 1: this morning, But Kiano Dawes has decided to return to
Speaker 1: the you to play for Alex and his staff as well.
Speaker 2: What sort of news do you think that is for
Speaker 2: Utah fans?
Speaker 3: I think good news. It's a it's a bonus really,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean we talked about it last time
Speaker 3: where you know, you you shouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 3: completely turned over the roster, and they won't be turning
Speaker 3: over the roster. And you know Keanu is the again
Speaker 3: He was a role player last year, so I think
Speaker 3: is to be a role player this year. But you know,
Speaker 3: a guy that that can provide some offense for for
Speaker 3: the team. And uh, you know, I don't know where
Speaker 3: he ranks in the offensive pecking order after the the
Speaker 3: roster is constructed, but uh, you know, he should be
Speaker 3: a guy who you know is in that like mix
Speaker 3: to be you know, second, third, fourth, leading scorer or
Speaker 3: something like that. If they can again find some talent
Speaker 3: to kind of build around, and if he ends up
Speaker 3: being the leading scorer, then you know, it's probably a
Speaker 3: situation where you know, Utahs in the in the bottom
Speaker 3: quarter of the league next year.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say, you lose b Yu with
Speaker 1: some news over the past week and they need a
Speaker 1: point guard. Dallen Hall is in the transfer portal and
Speaker 1: Diego or Demon is going to the NBA. So give
Speaker 1: me your thoughts on on both those those storylines. What
Speaker 1: sort of NBA careers ahead for this this young man
Speaker 1: Diego Demon and what does Kevin Young do. Look, they're
Speaker 1: going to be fine based off of the reports about
Speaker 1: the nil perse they have down there, but they do
Speaker 1: have a hole on the roster.
Speaker 2: Now, Ken, what think goes down here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they should be fine. Like, yeah, so
Speaker 3: they have a hole in the roster, but I mean,
Speaker 3: welcome to college basketball. That's like, you know, three hundred
Speaker 3: other teams right now. I mean, the fact that they
Speaker 3: don't have five holes on the roster is uh, you know,
Speaker 3: puts them ahead of a lot of teams. And as
Speaker 3: long as they kind of maintained that core of Richie
Speaker 3: Saunders and Katakada primarily, you know, Dawson Baker coming back
Speaker 3: will help out as well. Obviously, you know with de Bonsa,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you call him the centerpiece in
Speaker 3: this whole operation, but you know he's going to be
Speaker 3: a significant contributor as well. So I mean, just from
Speaker 3: that standpoint, like they'll be fine and they'll you know,
Speaker 3: they'll Kevin Young will find guys to fill the roster
Speaker 3: that I think we'll make this team, you know, at worse,
Speaker 3: let's say a borderline top twenty five team. I think
Speaker 3: with you know, Kata Saunders and Devonsa. Just from that standpoint,
Speaker 3: the team should be really good. To me, it's like
Speaker 3: you don't want to like dig Or. I think we
Speaker 3: all knew was leaving, even though the year was disappointing.
Speaker 3: Like he came. He came to Provo for one reason,
Speaker 3: and that was to launch his NBA career, And so
Speaker 3: it's not surprising that he's leaving and dollen Hall leaving,
Speaker 3: you know, I think in a vacuum not too surprising either.
Speaker 3: I mean BYU doesn't suffer from the transfer bug as
Speaker 3: much as other schools for for obvious reasons regarding the church,
Speaker 3: and so you thought maybe maybe dollen Hall would come back.
Speaker 3: But in a normal situation, with the year he had,
Speaker 3: not terribly surprising he's leaving either, and it kind of
Speaker 3: gives BYU an opportunity to, you know, go out and
Speaker 3: possibly get something better. I mean, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: point guards out there to see what what they're coming
Speaker 3: into with the three guys I just mentioned as the
Speaker 3: core of the team, Like, you know, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: very attractive. So I don't think it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: problem here to to find a you know, an above
Speaker 3: average big twelve point cards.
Speaker 1: All right, Ken, before I set you loose one more
Speaker 1: push on the website, how can people go get their
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Speaker 1: Calgary exactly.
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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, thank you so much for the
Speaker 1: time all year long, and we'll set you loose and
Speaker 1: we'll chat toon.
Speaker 3: Okay, sounds great, Bence, thank you.
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