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<v Speaker 1>In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where berties

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<v Speaker 1>and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. There is balls

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<v Speaker 1>and teas, your passport to the golfing universe, where every

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<v Speaker 1>swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready to step onto the lost screens and dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the world of givets, drives and delightful better.

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<v Speaker 2>The Magician.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is yet another Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is the one and only Tony told the

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<v Speaker 3>ball with a lot of flair. I am the Magician,

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<v Speaker 3>and yes, of course, if you've seen me on the

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<v Speaker 3>golf course, you realize that I am a classic man. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen. It is that day where I get

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<v Speaker 3>to check to experts within the social golfing sphere and

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<v Speaker 3>all the other professionals who would be listening. Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so delighted that we have started the year. This is

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<v Speaker 3>our second episode and now what better way to actually

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<v Speaker 3>uh than to actually started off on a high note.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week we had three guests, and now we had

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful conversation with our guests, and I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say thank you once again to them. And then

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<v Speaker 3>this week we've got someone who is an expert when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to golf equipment, golfing gear, and he knows

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<v Speaker 3>all about the gadgets that are currently dominating the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>So ladies and gentlemen, please allow me the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce miss Jason Rowe. Mister how are you TARTI.

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<v Speaker 2>Great man, Thank you so much for the invite. Hello

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<v Speaker 2>to all the listeners. Privilege to be on your shows.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you for actually honoring the invite Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>and wow, how punctual were you?

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<v Speaker 4>I've been waiting here for fifteen Let you down, but yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome stuff now that so Jason, Welcome to Bows and

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<v Speaker 3>is the only relevant podcast when it comes to social

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<v Speaker 3>golf and today, I'm actually highly delighted to have someone

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<v Speaker 3>who understands the ins and outs the trends around golf

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<v Speaker 3>for powerl golf equipment, golfing gadgets, someone who's got an

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<v Speaker 3>idea of how the whole industry has been revolutionizing. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm honored to heavy Year and I believe that we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a very interesting conversation because like any

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<v Speaker 3>other golfer out there. I'm also trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what is relevant now, how will it work in my favor.

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<v Speaker 3>But before all of that, I would actually like you

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<v Speaker 3>to reintroduce yourself. I tried to do it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think my introduction had a lot of weight on it.

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<v Speaker 2>To a lot of one to blow my own on.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, you know, I'm one of the founder

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<v Speaker 4>founders of the Golfers Club. You know, I've been selling

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<v Speaker 4>golf equipment since I was I don't know, probably fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I left school.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I finished my sen at seven, which would

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<v Speaker 4>in today's terms, would be the equivalent of a grade

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<v Speaker 4>A grade nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my.

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<v Speaker 4>Kids are they going to university and the other ones

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<v Speaker 4>in grade ten? So yeah, sen at seven was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the gen X the nineteen seventy when I was born.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was in school, you know, so, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I left school in the first two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>of senate eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a good golfer as a youngster, and I

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<v Speaker 4>played in a provincial golf for Western trans Ball, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we moved to natal and I played for NATL

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<v Speaker 4>for a good few years and I met you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I obviously met some of the very good golfers that

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<v Speaker 4>have achieved some success on on on a multitude of tours.

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<v Speaker 4>I played golf with Darren Fihart, who did very well

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<v Speaker 4>these kept eas European Tour card for I think twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five years. He was, you know, just a great example

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<v Speaker 4>of somebody who who worked very hard at his game,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and and you know you're in you're kept

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<v Speaker 4>his he's playing card, and he's one of our better players.

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<v Speaker 4>I was lucky enough to to play with guys like

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<v Speaker 4>Tim Clark who we were in the same side, and

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<v Speaker 4>and Rory Sabatin Simmy Clark was. He won the Players Championship,

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<v Speaker 4>he won the African Opened, uh the you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>won the this Canadian Open, Australian Opened. He was an

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<v Speaker 4>exceptional player until injury obviously affected him. He doesn't play anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean he's one of the all time money

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<v Speaker 4>winners on the US Tour. And Rory Sabatini won probably

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<v Speaker 4>seven or eight times on on the US Tour. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so Africa traditionally a younger players. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>our golfer our professionals have always punched way above their

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<v Speaker 4>weight category in terms of accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you look at.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys like Charles Watts or Louis Stays and Dean Burmmuster,

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<v Speaker 4>Ernie Alson Ratieff person were a lot of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know when I was around.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Ernie just won again for the eightieth time

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<v Speaker 4>eight years tour, went on the on the Senior Tour,

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<v Speaker 4>and Ernie's just you know, next to Gary Player was

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<v Speaker 4>our greatest ever and Bobby Locke, who won the Open

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<v Speaker 4>four times. We've just had a you know, we just

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<v Speaker 4>we just had some really great players. And Africa, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's I think it might be. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're just a great sporting nation first of all, and

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<v Speaker 4>second of all, we have great weather and and you

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<v Speaker 4>know we've got you know, we've got four hundred golf courses,

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<v Speaker 4>and golf is relatively cheap compared to the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the world. And some some listeners out there might disagree

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<v Speaker 4>with me, but you know, we really have great opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been I've traveled extensively, very luckily. I've

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<v Speaker 4>traveled to all parts of the world to play golf,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can tell you golf is very affordable compared

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<v Speaker 4>to the rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the world. Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>uh uh. You know, you know, as you've been speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking to myself, well, you've seen it all, and

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<v Speaker 3>not just from the parrel side, but from an experienced

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<v Speaker 3>point of view to say, you've been in the golf

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<v Speaker 3>course for so long and you've come across our icons

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<v Speaker 3>when you come to South African golf whilst you were playing.

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<v Speaker 3>So the key question now would be okay, you you

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<v Speaker 3>play provincial and you find yourself today as an MD

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<v Speaker 3>for Golfers Club.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're we're a golf for each other.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, the way it worked was I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a pro golfers. So every young every

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<v Speaker 4>young footballer, every young cricketer, I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>play for the fun of for fun out or they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to play for the proteins. You know that that's

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<v Speaker 4>just the nature of youngsters and their dreams. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when I started realizing I was a good player, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I was getting beat. I'd win a tournament

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<v Speaker 4>and then and there would be guys that are winning

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<v Speaker 4>seven eighteen tournaments, and there would be guys when you

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<v Speaker 4>go play at a national level, there were guys that

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<v Speaker 4>you'd play well and you'd still get beat and you

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<v Speaker 4>start realizing that, you know, this is a very tough

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<v Speaker 4>game to succeed in, you know, and you know something

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<v Speaker 4>for the parents out there, there's you know, the parents

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<v Speaker 4>out there, I mean, we always want the best for

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<v Speaker 4>our children, and they really think their kids are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be superstars. And it's very good to give them

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<v Speaker 4>every opportunity, but you have to realize that only the

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<v Speaker 4>top one hundred or one hundred and fifty golfers in

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<v Speaker 4>this world actually make a huge success.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of golf. It's a very it's a very tough living.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I decided, if I wasn't going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a professional golfer, what is the next best thing? I

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<v Speaker 4>could stay close to golf. And you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 4>many opportunities in golf. You can become a golf club manager,

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<v Speaker 4>you can be greenkeeper, you can you can join institution

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<v Speaker 4>like Golf ORSA to do an unbelievable job running amateur

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<v Speaker 4>golf in this country. And I was always, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>very much an ADHD child at school, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>busy and and I couldn't concentrate very well, and and

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<v Speaker 4>and in those days, you know, ADHD wasn't really diagnosed, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my mother was and irony out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of it was my mother was a school teacher and

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<v Speaker 4>you know she you know, and and anyway, so I

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<v Speaker 4>was restless and and I left school, you know, fairly young,

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<v Speaker 4>and I jumped on a bus from the from from

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<v Speaker 4>the towel and I came here as a seventeen I

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<v Speaker 4>was just turning eighteen, and I started my career selling

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<v Speaker 4>cause I wasn't very good at that. But then I

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<v Speaker 4>went to go and I went to go, and I

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<v Speaker 4>went to go and visit a guy at in town.

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<v Speaker 4>They started My mentor at the time was a guy

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<v Speaker 4>called rees Use and Reese undercome company called the Pro Shop,

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<v Speaker 4>who are still the biggest, you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest retailers in South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>They are now our competition, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So after spending nine years with Recite, I decided We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to open, you know, with some partners of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got some very good part I've got a good partner,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in the business.

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<v Speaker 2>And we started off very small.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, if there's a will, there's a way,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, we started with one store and we

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<v Speaker 4>went to two stores and we opened a third store

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<v Speaker 4>and now we have we have six stores and a

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<v Speaker 4>big warehouse, a central warehouse, and we have a franchise store.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven stores and you know, with the second biggest retailer

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<v Speaker 4>in South Africa, and and you know, we employed one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty people and and you know we've it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a dream and we work on the basis that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, customer is king, and you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's quite a good Cinderella story.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you know, for those people.

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<v Speaker 4>Out there that I'm not I'm not advocating that that

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<v Speaker 4>youngsters drop out of school, but you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>if you have the belief, you know you can you

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<v Speaker 4>can definitely make a success out of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely. And I mean your story is very very it's

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<v Speaker 3>a bold move that you made. Like you said, you

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<v Speaker 3>left president when you were seventeen, came to Joburk and

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<v Speaker 3>then that's when you met Riez who actually encouraged you

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<v Speaker 3>or mentored you to actually one day have your own

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to find out from your site, Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously there is a story behind every single thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>how old were you if you can recall how old

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<v Speaker 3>were you when you first held your first golf club?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I was quite I was quite lucky. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a younger brother. He's also a good.

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<v Speaker 4>Golfer, and in fact he runs our Cape Town operation now.

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<v Speaker 4>But my dad was a very sports orientate. He was

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<v Speaker 4>a good sportsman as a youngster, and he introduced us

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<v Speaker 4>to soccer and cricket and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennis and swimming.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was a golfer. He wasn't the greatest. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was a decent golf a single figure handicap.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was a seven or eight handicap. And

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<v Speaker 4>and he, you know, he put a golf club in

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<v Speaker 4>our hands. We weren't, you know, and and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I only sound like I was one of those privileged

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<v Speaker 4>kids that you know that it was a country club child,

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<v Speaker 4>because I definitely wasn't. My father was a racial trainer,

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<v Speaker 4>So we never really had money as children, but but

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, and and and and he made.

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<v Speaker 4>Us excited about every sport we played. And he would

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<v Speaker 2>And he taught us the rules.

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<v Speaker 4>And and you got to keep up with the guys

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<v Speaker 2>So he was very instrumental. It was very instrumental in.

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<v Speaker 4>In ensuring that you know that we understood that golf

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<v Speaker 4>You know if the ball moves in the rough, or

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<v Speaker 4>and tell your playing partners that you've done something wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And that's why I believe it's the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>game you know, but but I was always very interested

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<v Speaker 4>in the equipment side of of of of golf. I loved,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, the first and the best wedges when

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<v Speaker 2>And I always was like sort of enamored with uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love the alleure the of the technical side

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<v Speaker 4>for you, slice the ball. And you know, that's that

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<v Speaker 4>that we've obviously I've taken that passion across you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and trying to inculcate that with my staff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, So when when when the.

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<v Speaker 4>Average golfer walks into our store, I always tell them

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<v Speaker 2>We have to tell them we are the doctors.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're the patient, and we're going to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that that you know, you walk out of here that

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<v Speaker 4>your golf game isn't a better place. You're much healthier,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got a good mindset, and you're going to enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>the game more. Because if you enjoy golf and golf,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to tell you know, the listeners out.

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<v Speaker 2>There, that golf is such a it's such a difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>Game, but it's got a terrible and cruel way when

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<v Speaker 4>you have your worst round of your life, if you

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<v Speaker 4>had one golf good golf shot, or one you hold

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<v Speaker 4>one long putt, or you you know, you hit one

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<v Speaker 4>good drive, or or you make one last birdy, it

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<v Speaker 4>just seems to bring you back to the game, which

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<v Speaker 4>is it's just it's just an amazing game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite abusive, if you have to ask me, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean many times we have a lot of terrible rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you said, that one shot makes you believe

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<v Speaker 3>it tomorrow is going to be a different day. It

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<v Speaker 3>gives you hope.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I've seen I've seen some of my

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<v Speaker 4>best players and my best customers say to me. You know, Jay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm giving up. I can't play this game anymore. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not playing anymore. I said him, Are you crazy? What

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<v Speaker 4>are you going to do on a Saturday? What are

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know what I'm saying. It's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something about golf. You know. They say that you'll

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<v Speaker 2>learn more about a human being, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In four hours or five hours around the golfer than

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<v Speaker 4>you will over twenty years over the boardroom table, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And there are so many deals being made and and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, my biggest my biggest plus or the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>encouragement has been seeing so many players of color come

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<v Speaker 4>and play golf. I mean, you know, I just see

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<v Speaker 4>the guys coming and they're so excited and they they

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they just want to they just want to

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<v Speaker 4>play golf. So you know, we are grateful for every

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<v Speaker 4>new golfer that walks through our doors. I can tell

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<v Speaker 4>you so. And you know, my staff are very diverse,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of them come from different backgrounds, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's exciting for me to uplift them and and and

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<v Speaker 4>teach them the game of golf, even tho they were

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<v Speaker 4>born into it. You know, because whether you start golf,

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<v Speaker 4>it whether you start golf at sixty, who you start

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<v Speaker 4>golf at six, it's a game for life.

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<v Speaker 2>You never rarely leave it.

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<v Speaker 4>You might go into a bit of a hiatus and

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<v Speaker 4>you might step away from it. But there are times when,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there are times when you're go on holiday,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to play golf every day. And there's times

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<v Speaker 4>when you're busy at work and you're under pressure and.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't play.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's times when some young couples there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>young couples are having a baby, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>modern couple today that the husband is quite involved and

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<v Speaker 4>he needs to be there and whatever they can. So

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<v Speaker 4>he would love to play, but he's got to look

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<v Speaker 4>after the baby, so you know, and and and you

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<v Speaker 4>go through patches, but I mean, ultimately, everybody comes back

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<v Speaker 4>to the game.

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<v Speaker 3>People get hooked to the game. I don't know. For

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<v Speaker 3>some reason, there's there's a magnet around golf. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>speaking from experience. I spent quite a while without playing golf,

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<v Speaker 3>but as soon as the buck came back, sure, I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be on the golf course every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's and you know, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I see it. I see it especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of guys or ladies when they were

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<v Speaker 4>sporting at school, they played a bit of hockey, or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a guy was a half decent cricketer, or

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<v Speaker 4>he could catch a ball or kick a ball, or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the case the case may be. When they start golf,

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<v Speaker 4>they think it's going to be a bit like hitting.

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<v Speaker 2>A hockey ball, the cricket ball, or or like kicking

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<v Speaker 2>a soccer ball. But it's so much different. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just you had one good shot, five bad shots,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, one duff and then a real absolute

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<v Speaker 4>beauty and you think yourself, jeez, I've got it. And

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<v Speaker 4>then and the next minute you get it on the

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<v Speaker 4>head or you have you missed the ball completely, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but my biggest excitement.

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<v Speaker 4>Is seeing when golfers break one hundred for the first

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<v Speaker 4>round for the first time, or they break ninety ano

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<v Speaker 4>they want to break eighty five. When they break eighty five,

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<v Speaker 4>they want to break eighty, you know. And then they

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<v Speaker 4>come to me and they say to me, how I'm

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<v Speaker 4>now shooting consistently eighty two, eighty three?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I shoot seventy nine? Say? How do I

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<v Speaker 2>break eighty?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell them listen, I said, I we sell

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<v Speaker 4>We've got millions and millions of rands where the stocks

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<v Speaker 4>are stock in our stores. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>take it to the next level, you have to go

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<v Speaker 4>and practice your short game. You have to go and

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to practice one hundred meter shots, the eighty

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<v Speaker 4>five meter shots, the sixty meter shots.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to go and practice your chipping around on

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<v Speaker 2>the greens. You've got to vary your short gam you

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<v Speaker 4>Bump and run the hop and stop the spin, the

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<v Speaker 4>spinny one, the high flops.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to go into the bunker.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to play the long bunker shot, the short

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<v Speaker 4>bunker shot, and you've got to go and practice your

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<v Speaker 4>three and four foot puts, because those are the putts

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<v Speaker 4>that make all the difference when players go through their round.

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<v Speaker 4>When players go through their round, they say, jeezus, you

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<v Speaker 4>know I actually hit the ball, okate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I shot what I shot?

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<v Speaker 4>And how many pus did you meet? Missed from under

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<v Speaker 4>four foot? Oh I missed three of those? Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>now we've got two three puts. Take two off there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and take thee take the knocking, knocking the

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<v Speaker 4>three four foot is.

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<v Speaker 2>That you missed. Now we five shots better. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you shot eighty seven and down to eighty two.

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<v Speaker 4>And how many times had you done for chip that

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't get onto the green?

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<v Speaker 2>And I did that once?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, take one more of How many times did you

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<v Speaker 4>choose the wrong club?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Four times? You see? And then when they go

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<v Speaker 2>through there around the Hello, jes amateur golfer is inemy.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, yeah, your line was breast for a second year.

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, And I was saying the difference between a between

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<v Speaker 4>a professional golf and an amateur golfer is a professional

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<v Speaker 4>golfer knows exactly how far he hits every.

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<v Speaker 2>Club point one and and an amateur golfer.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's got one hundred and fifty meters to the flag,

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<v Speaker 4>and he hits his eight time, let's say seven one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty meters, he won't take a sixth time

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<v Speaker 4>because he believes it's his seven one hundred and fifty meters.

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<v Speaker 4>But he only hits his seven one hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>He only hits his seven one hundred and fifty meters.

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<v Speaker 4>When he hits it, well, he doesn't take him to

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<v Speaker 4>the fence. He might get it slightly thin, No, he

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<v Speaker 4>might have it slightly fat. You know, and and and

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<v Speaker 4>and and and when he does hit is slightly fat

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<v Speaker 4>or slightly thin, he 's one hundred and forty meters

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<v Speaker 4>now tend to short of the green or short of

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<v Speaker 4>the pin, and then that's when the trouble starts. So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, professional golfers have just got a much much

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<v Speaker 4>better understanding of where to miss the green, where to

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<v Speaker 4>miss the fair way if they're going to miss, and

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<v Speaker 4>exactly how far they hit their clubs. And obviously their

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<v Speaker 4>short game is is a couple of notches.

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<v Speaker 2>Up on an average golfer. They just don't make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're looking to make love with scores, you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to start thinking about those things, you know. And

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<v Speaker 4>and also you've got to get fitted for the right

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<v Speaker 4>golf equipment. I mean, so often guys watch YouTube and

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<v Speaker 4>they and they watch advertisements and they see guys on

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<v Speaker 4>the tour using this club or their club, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they want it, but they don't even check if they can.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit the club, you know, or if the golf ball

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<v Speaker 2>is right for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, our businesses, our businesses are built nowadays

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<v Speaker 4>on fitting guys on the right equipment, making sure the

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<v Speaker 2>Right loft, the right shaft, the right grip thickness, the

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<v Speaker 2>right light angle on their irons.

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<v Speaker 4>And I might be talking a bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of swayili to the listeners out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They might not understand what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the thing is, if you're not you know,

428
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<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna wear you know, when you if you

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<v Speaker 4>know you're a medium shirt and I'll put you into

430
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<v Speaker 4>an extra large shirt, it doesn't it doesn't feel great

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<v Speaker 4>on your body.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you if you're size seven shoe and I

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<v Speaker 4>give you a size ten, you're gonna walk funny, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no question. Yeah, and and and you know, customers just

436
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<v Speaker 4>sometimes want to buy the clubs for the look, but

437
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<v Speaker 4>they're completely not functional. And a lot of times, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>customers will walk into our stores and say I bought

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<v Speaker 4>this and I bought that, and then we have to

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<v Speaker 4>say to listen, So I think you've made a terrible mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've spent a lot of money on this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's it's not suitable.

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<v Speaker 4>These things are just not and they're not suited to

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<v Speaker 4>your game. They're not suit your gam you know. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, luckily, luckily, when when customers walk into

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<v Speaker 4>our store, they're very much like if I don't know

447
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<v Speaker 4>if you've got children, but if your children walk into

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<v Speaker 4>a into a candy store, it's quite difficult to control them.

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<v Speaker 4>They want this, and they want that, and they want that,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is that is That's what makes our business,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, quite exciting, because customers really like nice things,

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<v Speaker 4>and we just have to point them in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they're quite headstrong on what they want, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>must must off are trained to make sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we point you in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 3>In your opinion, Jason, right now, what would you say

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<v Speaker 3>is the best invention in golf?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, you know that you know, over the years,

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<v Speaker 4>they've improved, they've improved the golf ball technology so much

460
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<v Speaker 4>that nowadays, if you're to say to me, you know

461
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<v Speaker 4>that that we sell golf balls from as little as

462
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<v Speaker 4>twenty rand and the most expensive golf balls on ninety rand.

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<v Speaker 2>And you say, you know, when people.

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<v Speaker 4>Start, you know, often during Christmas time and just we've

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<v Speaker 4>just we've just gone past the festive period our you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be your granny, or it might be your aunt,

467
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<v Speaker 4>or it might be your sister doesn't play golf, and

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<v Speaker 4>they want to buy Tony something for you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>for the secret center or for the you know, stocking

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<v Speaker 4>filler or something, whatever the case may be. And they

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<v Speaker 4>come in and they and they want to buy some

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<v Speaker 4>golf balls. And I mean, you tell these people that

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<v Speaker 4>a golf ball cost ninety rand. You know, you almost

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<v Speaker 4>have to, you know, get the smelling salts out to

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<v Speaker 4>wake them up after they fainted, because they cannot believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>The three golf balls can cost two hundred and seventy ran.

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<v Speaker 4>But the truth is there's an enormous amount of technology

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<v Speaker 4>that goes into golf peers. And I started, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I started playing golf when I was five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, sometimes golf peers they were just, for

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<v Speaker 4>want of a better word, they were wobbly. They just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't they weren't the centers weren't completely round, the quality

483
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<v Speaker 4>of the cover wasn't great. They when you had been badly,

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<v Speaker 4>they used to get a big cut in them or

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<v Speaker 4>a big smiley and then we call them smiling, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so so and the golf ball travels a long way.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the greatest thing over the years is

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<v Speaker 4>that golf balls have. If you buy a twenty rand

489
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<v Speaker 4>golf ball, you buy a ninety ran golf ball. There

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<v Speaker 4>isn't a bad golf ball today. You cannot buy a

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<v Speaker 4>really bad golf ball. So that's you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>buy it, you buy three golf balls for thirty bucks each,

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<v Speaker 4>just ninety rand. You mustn't know this comb be as

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<v Speaker 4>good as you know, But for the average golf it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very good golf ball. It'll suffice, it'll do the job.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, until you get into the water, out

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<v Speaker 4>of bounds, or over somebody's wall, or whatever the case is,

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to lost. So that is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>great inventions. And then there are there have been so many,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, I saw a golf when I

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<v Speaker 4>was a youngster. When I saw the golf we used

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<v Speaker 4>to use bladed irons which were not cavity back, and

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<v Speaker 4>steel shafts, and and the woods were steel shafted with

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<v Speaker 4>presummon or lemon eight heads. They were made from wood.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm only fist, I'm not one hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fifty, But you know, it seems like so long ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've seen the golf business transitions so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>They've gone from They've gone from wooden headed woods to.

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<v Speaker 4>Metal woods with steel shafts, to metal woods with graphite shafts,

510
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<v Speaker 4>to titanium headed drivers with graphite shafts, to carbon headed

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<v Speaker 4>woods with graphite shafts, to a mixture of.

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<v Speaker 2>Carbon and titanium. So there's just mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when I talked to some of my youngest staff,

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<v Speaker 4>they think they think I'm from.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible, you know, they think I'm that old.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, does you know I'm telling you now, I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen it all so and I've been very privileged to

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<v Speaker 4>see it all because I'm saying I'm fifty and Tiger

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<v Speaker 4>Woods will be fifty in on the thirty yeth of

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<v Speaker 4>January twenty twenty five. At the end of the shore,

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be fifty. And I've seen Tiger his whole career.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Tiger will go down probably. I mean, besides

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Nicholas as the greatest, and I saw I saw

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<v Speaker 4>in his in his prime. I saw twenty years of

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<v Speaker 4>the most ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Dominance in that you'll ever see in your life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And and please hell Jason, but I really think, hello, Chunny, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can hear you now, I'm sorry you were breaking again there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for some reason it breaks up now and then. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just saying it's very you know, very privileged

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<v Speaker 2>to have seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Every shot of Tigers, every major, every tournament win, and

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I mean I sometimes get a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a lump in my throat when I think how

535
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<v Speaker 4>his career is coming to an end because he you know,

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<v Speaker 4>through injury and and cor accidents, and it's a bit

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<v Speaker 4>sad for me, but you know, he's and and I

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<v Speaker 4>can honestly say he's been a couple of and I've

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<v Speaker 4>I've in the golf indus, We've been through ups, we've

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<v Speaker 4>been through downs, and I've seen the best of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've seen the worst of it, and there's been

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, if it wasn't for Tiger Woods, I

543
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<v Speaker 4>don't really think golf would have been quite as buoyant

544
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<v Speaker 4>as it is today. And I don't think people give

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<v Speaker 4>him the credit that he deserves. I mean, they do,

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<v Speaker 4>he's the greatest, and they do. But but I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very grateful that when I started my business is

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<v Speaker 4>now our business is now twenty four years old, and

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<v Speaker 4>Tiger Woods basically.

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<v Speaker 2>One of for the years before we started our business,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just been I've just been very lucky that

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<v Speaker 4>people have been watching golf, loving golf, wanting to be

554
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<v Speaker 4>like Tiger, and our business was also in a growth

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<v Speaker 4>period at this very same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the second thing is after COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we all nearly went out of business during COVID,

558
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<v Speaker 4>But after COVID business has received, sorry, golf has received

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<v Speaker 4>such a shot in the armor, such.

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<v Speaker 2>An injection of enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think I think human beings just in general, they.

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<v Speaker 2>They all got their they work, they work.

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<v Speaker 4>Up and you know, they they they just thought to themselves,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the fragility of life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we could have all died, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like doomsday and whatever the case may be. And

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<v Speaker 4>and and when.

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<v Speaker 2>They got out, they said, I want to see the

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<v Speaker 2>fresh air. I'm not going to cancel that golf time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to play, I'm going to go ride my bicycle,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to take my family on holiday, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to I'm going to enjoy my life. And I've never

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<v Speaker 4>seen the golf business more buoyant than in the last

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<v Speaker 4>four years from twenty twenty to twenty four, please got

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five is another good year. But it's just it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just we're very bleaced.

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<v Speaker 4>To be in the golf industry over the last you know,

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<v Speaker 4>five years.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Jason, can we just quickly go for a

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<v Speaker 3>two minute water break and then when we come back,

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<v Speaker 3>let's delve into the economics of golf as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the evolution of golf in South Africa since you started playing.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, let's let's catch up in two minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>I see you now, Okay, all right, Shah.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to yet another lovely,

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<v Speaker 3>lovely episode of Bos and Teas. As you know, ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen, I am joined by the MD of Golfers

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<v Speaker 3>Club Mester Jason Rowe. So without any further Jill, ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen, let me bring back Jason on the line. Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>are you with me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, Charn all right, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason. Before I was a shortbreak, I mentioned that I

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<v Speaker 3>would like for us to actually dive into the economics

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<v Speaker 3>of golf. I mean, there's been so much happening in

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<v Speaker 3>the country for ages, and like you said, Corona was

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<v Speaker 3>one of those times where business went south. And then

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<v Speaker 3>after Corona there's been quite a huge injection, especially of

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<v Speaker 3>social golfers into the system. So from your end as

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<v Speaker 3>an interview, y'all, who's in the golfing business and has

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<v Speaker 3>been there for two decades going for three, how has

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<v Speaker 3>it been if you look at let's say, golf in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty up till yeah, let's let's go back to

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty too, till today, how has it been in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of way it started, where it's heading and if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the business side of things, is it

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<v Speaker 3>looking promising? Has there been moments where there's no tragic

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<v Speaker 3>tree and everything has flattened down? All those kind of scenarios.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like I said, you know earlier, I've seen I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen all the ups and downs during the you know,

632
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>during the golf industry. You know, during my time in

633
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 4>the golf industry, and you know, for a long time,

634
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 4>golf was very much in the seventies, eight sixties, seventeen eighty,

635
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 4>it was very much an predominantly a white elite to sport.

636
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, we never even saw players of color. And

637
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I can honestly say to you now that I've never

638
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 4>ever been so excited about the golf industry. We are.

639
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 4>We have never been busier. I've never rounds up at

640
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 4>golf clubs. Memberships are up. I mean, I'm a member

641
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Bryanson Country Club and I can tell you they've closed

642
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 4>the membership because there's just too many members people cannot

643
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, you just obviously can't take on. You can't

644
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>make everybody a member if they're not going to get

645
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 4>a tea time. So, you know, to be fair to everybody,

646
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 4>they're just saying, guys, doesn't for the time being, membership

647
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 4>is closed. And slowly with surely as opening has become

648
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 4>available at the players in and it's happened in a

649
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 4>number of golfriends, you know. So that's a great indicator

650
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 4>that that that golf is in a very good place.

651
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 4>And I was sitting with a friend of mine and

652
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, funny enough, he started he brought I mean,

653
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 4>if you guys are familiar, I'm sure the golfers out

654
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 4>there familiar with a brand called Stricksen and Stricts and

655
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 4>stricts and golf balls and when when we start a

656
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 4>golfers club. A friend of mine by the name of

657
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Mike Powell brought Stricksen to Africa and and you know,

658
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 4>for the you know, guys couldn't even pronounce the name

659
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Stricksen correctly and they thought it was, you know, a

660
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Chinese import at the time. And in fact it's one

661
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 4>of the premium brands from Japan.

662
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And Mike has.

663
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, did a great job with Strixen in South

664
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Africa and then he got the top job in the UK,

665
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 4>and I's got the top job in California. And I

666
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 4>had breakfage with him yesterday morning. He was here for

667
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 4>a short visit and he said to me that that

668
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>that rounds in the US are.

669
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Memberships up.

670
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Golfer has never been never been busier, you know, they

671
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 4>they've they've almost Strixen as a brand has has sort

672
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 4>of doubled their their turnover in the US over the

673
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 4>last couple of couple of years, you know, and strix

674
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 4>And just understand that the big power players in golf

675
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 4>or Taylor Made and Callaway and Titleist.

676
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Those are the big big brands.

677
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 4>So for a brand, a Japanese brand in the US

678
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 4>to double its turnover.

679
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Mike's obviously doing a very good job.

680
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 4>But you know, the product is obviously exceptional, and that

681
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 4>means that there are more there are more consumers. The

682
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 4>more consumers there are, the more they want to try

683
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 4>different things.

684
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so we're very.

685
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Comfortable with things are at and you know, we're thinking

686
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 4>about opening a couple more stores in in more some

687
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 4>strategic areas where it makes sense. And for the most part,

688
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I can only see the golf growing from strength to

689
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 4>strength over the next while.

690
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's.

691
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Even with some adverts economic conditions, you know, with the.

692
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Interest rates going up, and so there.

693
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Are people out there that are you know, it's tough

694
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 4>to you know, to get by every month.

695
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's golfers.

696
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 4>It must be doing well relative to you know, how

697
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 4>tough it is out there economically.

698
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>And I like the fact that I mean, you mentioned

699
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 3>that Branston has not closed membership, so have other golf

700
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>courses at the moment. But that doesn't doesn't it actually

701
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 3>disrupt the entire market to say, okay, the value chain.

702
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 3>If you look at the number of golf clubs that

703
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 3>have full membership, and you look at the fact that, Okay,

704
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 3>more people are trying to break into the space, yet

705
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>there's not enough resources. From a golf course point of view,

706
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 3>doesn't it affect the market to say, or doesn't it

707
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 3>challenge the market to say, guys, let's go and build

708
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 3>more golf courses. And obviously, from a retail point of

709
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 3>your on your site, uh, I'm sure you're you're practically

710
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 3>looking at Okay, if more and more golf courses aren't

711
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 3>taking any more membership, then it means that my my

712
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>market would remain as it is. There will be an Yeah.

713
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, on the contrary, you know, it's not

714
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 4>every golf course it's closed theymbership and a lot of

715
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 4>a lot of clubs are welcoming members every single day

716
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>and they make it more and more attractive. Brandson just

717
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 4>happens to be in an a catted area where it's an

718
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 4>old club with an existing membership, and it's goal has

719
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 4>become more popular and they've got to a point where

720
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 4>they've saturated, and.

721
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, they still they're not completely fulled.

722
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, you can still joins a weekday member and

723
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 4>they have various other options. But there are other options

724
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 4>like you know, our competition, you know, rival company in

725
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>the pro shop.

726
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 2>They own the World of Golf, which is a really good,

727
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, practice facility. They offer.

728
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 4>Through play more Golf, which is one of the other businesses.

729
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 4>They offer a membership where you can join and you

730
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 4>get and they tell you where you can play.

731
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 2>And golf courses don't on't busy.

732
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 4>Golf courses aren't busy twenty four to seven, seven days

733
00:37:58.199 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 4>a week.

734
00:37:58.760 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>They have downtime too.

735
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 4>And what play more Golf has done, They've they've gone

736
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 4>and checked, you know, with a golf course, when is

737
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 4>your downtime Sunday afternoons, Tuesday afternoons, Wednesday mornings, you know,

738
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be. And and players can get games

739
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 4>there a really good, good deal. And then places like

740
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 4>Cathedral Peak, a Cajia golf club. There's a number of

741
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 4>golf clubs that hold they clubs as such and they

742
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 4>they're in good standing with Golf RSA and they are

743
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 4>able to offer memberships at a very affordable rate. So

744
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 4>I think a club like Cathedral Peak, which is not

745
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 4>the kind of club that you would play golf at

746
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 4>every Saturday if you live in Karteng or.

747
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, in djoebug.

748
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 4>But you can join the club and we get an

749
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 4>official handicap and an official you're an official member of

750
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 4>a golf club for as little as you know, eleven

751
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 4>or twelve hundred rand, you.

752
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Know, so a year, not a month.

753
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>A year.

754
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 2>So yes, and I mean.

755
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 4>A Cajia golf club is very which is a club

756
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 4>in Pretoria, which even if you live in Mondior, you

757
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>live in you know, olive Dale, you live in uh,

758
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.280
<v Speaker 4>you know Lone Hill, You can join a Clasia golf

759
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 4>club and it makes you an affiliated member. And the

760
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 4>difference between a non affiliated member an affiliate member. When

761
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 4>you go and play as a visit at a golf club,

762
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 4>the difference in what you're going to pay is quite demonstrable.

763
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 4>You're going to be paying you know, maybe father and

764
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 4>a round as opposed to eight fifty around. Now four

765
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 4>and fifty or five and around is manageable. You know,

766
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 4>nine and a round for a game of golf plus

767
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 4>your halfway house plus maybe a caddy, plus a cot.

768
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 4>It becomes quite pricey to play a game of golf

769
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 4>this very and yeah, and you know the outerlying golf

770
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 4>clubs like I don't know, you know, if you live

771
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of Joeburgh. I mean I live in

772
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, in four ways. So I'm thinking, you know,

773
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Raims of Country Club, which is Ruderport Country Club, but

774
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 4>no Bernoni Country Club, Springs Pollock Park. They all offer

775
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.039
<v Speaker 4>memberships and they also have a lot of clubs that

776
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 4>what they call a visitors day or an open day

777
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 4>in the week. So when you pitch up there, they

778
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 4>treat you like a member. It's very affordable. They most

779
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 4>clubs are looking for business. They always want to make

780
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 4>sure that their membership is healthy. And you like if

781
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 4>you like the feel of the club, you like the

782
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 4>warmth and the camaraderie, and you don't live you don't

783
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 4>live an exceptional distance away from the club.

784
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 2>It's manageable.

785
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 4>You can join that club for or I think it's

786
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 4>quite reasonable relative to you know, gym fees or you know,

787
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 4>sports club fees.

788
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 3>It's no different now, Jesson, I just want to understand.

789
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously there's been like you said, there's been

790
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>an influx. If there's no better way of mentioning, there's

791
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 3>been an influx of people of color into the space,

792
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 3>and I think mainly it's because of the economic changes

793
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>where there's becoming. The affluent market is actually increasing right now.

794
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Of course, if we were to look at the retail

795
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>business of golf in and tie it down to golf courses,

796
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 3>of which a majority of our golf courses here in

797
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 3>South Africa obviously will rely mostly on social golfers. Looking

798
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 3>at the pool of people that it has from a

799
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 3>retail point of view, is there a direct link or

800
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 3>or do you think that there's a direct link or

801
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 3>do you think that the professional side of golf still

802
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 3>sustains business within the golfing space.

803
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you know, it's a very simple equation.

804
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, there's more golfers and your golf business, the

805
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 4>consumption of golf balls, golf equipment, the need for new sets,

806
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 4>golf shoes, socks, apparel is going to go up. So

807
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, from our point of view, we are absolutely

808
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 4>thrilled with the amount of guys that are that are

809
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 4>taking up the game. And from a corporate respect that

810
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I've never worked for a corporate company, but it's it's

811
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 4>a great place to do deals and company golf days.

812
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 4>We we cater to company golf days all the time.

813
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>We're always doing.

814
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Their you know, the you know, when you pitch up

815
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 4>at a company golf and I'm sure Tony, you've played

816
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 4>in you know, a few company golf days or sponsored

817
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 4>days that we call them. You know, you pitch up

818
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 4>and there's always some very nice ladies to welcome you

819
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 4>in and welcome to our day. And they give you,

820
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, what's your name, and you say, Tony, how's

821
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 4>it or whatever.

822
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>They give you a shirt and they give you your welcome.

823
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Back, and off you go and you put your shirt

824
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.519
<v Speaker 4>on your matching cap with obviously the branding of which

825
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 4>whichever corporate is hosting the day, and you get to

826
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 4>meet three new guys on the tea and by the

827
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 4>end of four four and a half hours on the

828
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 4>golf course with these guys, they're your new best friends.

829
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 4>And then you have a shower and you have a

830
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 4>few drinks, and then you know, you get into prize

831
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:14.800
<v Speaker 4>giving and you sit around the prize giving table, and

832
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's just a really a great way of

833
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 4>bringing like minded people that are in the corporate space,

834
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 4>that want to do business together, that want to do

835
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 4>deals together, and and I mean, you know, I think

836
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 4>it's one of the greatest forms of networking and I've

837
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 4>built my business. I can tell you right now. I mean,

838
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 4>we would never be where we are today it wasn't

839
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 4>for our staff and you know, the guys that I

840
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 4>know and the people wanting to support us. And you know,

841
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 4>from from all the rounds of golf, golf have played

842
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 4>with some really nice people, influential people, guys that are

843
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 4>deal makers and captains of industry and and you know,

844
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 4>from that perspective, you know, we've been quite lucky. But

845
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I can tell you that for the most part, golfers

846
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 4>are very nice people. They're just they're just nice guys,

847
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and then they want to have a good

848
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 4>time on the golf course. It's the four or five

849
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 4>hour break where they can just switch off. Whether you're

850
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 4>a you know, if you're a sales manager or a

851
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 4>CEO or you know.

852
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you might be. You might be the company financial director.

853
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to think about numbers, you don't have

854
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 4>to think about spreadsheet, you have to think about profits

855
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>and losses.

856
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>What you've got to think about is your next shot.

857
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 4>And you know, with with With With With are found

858
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.679
<v Speaker 4>that generally at corporate golf days, the guys have a

859
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>great time and a lot of friends are made, and

860
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's just a great place where people

861
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 4>of all ethnic backgrounds and all you know, different backgrounds

862
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.960
<v Speaker 4>from from from you know, when they were children, whether

863
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 4>they were underprivileged, you know, privileged, whatever.

864
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>The case would be. It really has no relevance there.

865
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 4>It's just a matter of you talk golf, you talk rugby,

866
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 4>you talk soccer, you talk cricket. You know, how are

867
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>we doing at the World Cup, whatever the case may be. Yeah,

868
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.000
<v Speaker 4>and and and by the end of the round, you

869
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 4>just you know, big friends. And I like that, you know,

870
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 4>that's just what the golf is. A is a great

871
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 4>game from that perspective.

872
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. I think I think it's the only

873
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>spot where you can actually mix business with pleasure. I've

874
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 3>seen other other sports codes where obviously eaves the soccer

875
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.039
<v Speaker 3>matu you just meet up before you start the game

876
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 3>and then you just shake hands afterwards. But when it

877
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 3>comes to camaraderie, I think golf is the only place

878
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.320
<v Speaker 3>where you can actually have fun while talking business or networking.

879
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, just to make sure that you continue

880
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 3>building relationships with people in relevive in different industries from

881
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 3>different backgrounds as well.

882
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and I mean I've also noticed, and I mean,

883
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, I might be overstepping the market a little bit,

884
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 4>but I'm just saying I've just noticed when you know,

885
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.280
<v Speaker 4>youngsters that join a bit corporate start playing golf, or

886
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 4>there are decent golfers and they've been playing golf from

887
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 4>young and they happen to play with the boss or

888
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody of influence in the company, and they're

889
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 4>good players. They seem to sort of, you know, sort

890
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 4>of rise in the company and they just they just

891
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, the boss wants to play golf with them

892
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 4>all the time, at the next golf time, whatever the case,

893
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 4>and it's just very good for their development within the company.

894
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what you're saying, I hope it air goes

895
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 3>with everyone that's listening now to say, listen, guys, golf

896
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 3>is the only place to actually make sure that you

897
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 3>have fun while advancing in your career, if I can

898
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 3>put it that way.

899
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 4>Look, I mean, there's a good chance there's a possibility

900
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 4>that the boss, you know, loves the English Premiership and

901
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 4>he you know, he loves maybe he loves Liverpool or

902
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Man United or Arsenal or you know whatever. And I

903
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 4>don't want to you'll notice I'm mentioning many names that

904
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't want the listeners. You know, you know, you know, or.

905
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs or pirates. I'm not sure.

906
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 4>But the thing is, you know, and and and and

907
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.639
<v Speaker 4>and and if you can talk soccer, you can talk ruby.

908
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 4>That's what sport just in general, I mean, you know,

909
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 4>not not not you know, getting away from golf, but

910
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 4>just sports in general is just such a great conversation piece.

911
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 2>And it just it breaks down barriers, you know.

912
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 4>I've just I've just noticed that in my life always

913
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 4>being a good golfer. You know, people seem to when

914
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 4>you play with somebody who might be the CEO of

915
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 4>this company or that company, might be a twenty handicapped golfer,

916
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 4>he immediately gives your respect.

917
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

918
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 4>If you can plays with you said, jeez, he's just

919
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 4>he's already given respect because.

920
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>You're paying good golf.

921
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, he's in awe that you can play

922
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 4>good golf because it is a tough game, and and

923
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 4>and and and that is quite nice too, and and

924
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 4>and when you offer him some advice, and maybe he's

925
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe he's not standing correctly. Maybe he's he's

926
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 4>he's you know, when he's putting, he's moving his head,

927
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 4>or you know, he's doing something wrong with he's shipping

928
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. When you give him some advice, he's not

929
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 4>going to say, what do you know? Yes, thank you

930
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 4>very much.

931
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 3>They actually take the few words take advice.

932
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course.

933
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 4>But you know, getting back to you know, our business,

934
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 4>which is you know, primarily and fundamentally hardware.

935
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 2>When we talk hard we're.

936
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 4>Talking drivers, fairways, hybrids, wedges, you know, and and and apparel.

937
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 4>You know, all the all the clothing under the sun,

938
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 4>clof shoes, gloves, all the latest tats, you know, yeah,

939
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 4>all the gadgets, technology, GPSS, range finders or whatever.

940
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 2>If if if my staff.

941
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 4>Are well versed on on all the latest stuff, when

942
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 4>somebody walks in, it's not a difficult cell. Because human

943
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 4>beings inherently like nice things. They want to look better.

944
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.320
<v Speaker 4>They want to they want to pitch up making sure

945
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 4>that they they they look the pot And you know,

946
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I can honestly say that.

947
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I said to my staff, educate yourself. We educate them

948
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 2>as best we can.

949
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 4>But watch all the later, watch all the latest videos,

950
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.559
<v Speaker 4>watch all the latest reviews, watch all the latest shows

951
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 4>that talk about the latest equipment because when and you know,

952
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 4>the internet is a very powerful tool, and YouTube are

953
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>very powerful tool.

954
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 2>A lot of these customers have watched these videos.

955
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Or they've done that, they've done their own homework, so

956
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 4>when they walk in the store, they sort of know

957
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 4>what they want. And I said, you don't want to

958
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 4>be caught with your phone stuff. So it's very important

959
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 4>that you know, our soft stay on top of.

960
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 2>The technical side of what is new and exciting whatever.

961
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 4>And we're going to a very exciting time now because

962
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 4>every January, every January going into early February, the brands

963
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 4>launch the latest equipment and and and we've just received

964
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 4>the brand new Cobra Adapt, which is the new range

965
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 4>of Cobra Driver, which has thirty two different settings in

966
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 4>the drivehead. We just received the new Tailor Made q

967
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I thirty five, which is put into play by guys

968
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 4>like Tommy Fleetwood and Glory McElroy and you know all

969
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 4>the guys, a lot of the tailor made players, Scottie Scheffler,

970
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 4>they're all just moved into the new driver. So that

971
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 4>that's it's a really nice it's a really nice piece

972
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.079
<v Speaker 4>of equipment. And on the twelfth I think of the twelfth,

973
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 4>the fifteenth of February.

974
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>The new Callaway Elite arrives.

975
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 4>We've just received the new titles pro v One and

976
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 4>prov one ex golf balls for twenty twenty five. That

977
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:50.760
<v Speaker 4>are they are absolutely magnificent. Cleveland Wedges have just arrived,

978
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 4>the new Zspin Wedges. They are they're just you know,

979
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 4>they're crazy. You know, they feel soft and you know,

980
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 4>just even always made such unbelievable looking wedges and and

981
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 4>and tricks, and have just released the new Irons and

982
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 4>Woods range.

983
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 2>So you know, you know, we're in a good space

984
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>to hit the hit the ground running in twenty twenty five.

985
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Jason, we are now approaching the end of our episode,

986
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 3>but I just want to find out currently in your

987
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>golf back in your golf backyard, what's the one club

988
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 3>that you can't deal, you can't do without.

989
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 4>At the moment, I carry a you know, I can

990
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 4>tell you that I've always.

991
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Been and thankful.

992
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 4>I've always been a very good putter, so I haven't

993
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 4>had you know, the rest of my golf game at

994
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 4>times has weighed, especially my chipping over the years. I

995
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's from stress or too much wine

996
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.840
<v Speaker 4>or you know my wife shouts at me or you know,

997
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 4>the paying the school fees.

998
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure what it is.

999
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 4>But you know, my putter is a Scottie Cameron, you know,

1000
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 4>titles obviously on the Scotti Cameron brand. And I've got

1001
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 4>the tightest Scottie Cameron Collector's Champions Choice, which comes with

1002
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 4>a trillium insert. And it is you know, it's a

1003
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 4>collector you know, we so Scotty Cameron as a as

1004
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 4>a you know, within the titlest brand, under the Titlest

1005
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Umbrella release once or twice a year, a limited edition

1006
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:23.159
<v Speaker 4>range of pudders.

1007
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 2>And I got this Champion's Choice. It's called the Champions Choice.

1008
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I got it about.

1009
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Three years ago and it hasn't left my bag. I

1010
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 4>love it, so, you know, even when I put badly.

1011
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, some guys want to get rid of their pudders,

1012
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.800
<v Speaker 4>but I just know it's not the it's not the

1013
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:41.960
<v Speaker 4>it's not it's not the arrow.

1014
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.519
<v Speaker 2>It's the Indian. That's the shooting arrow. Ye. So yeah,

1015
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 2>but but yeah, and I mean, you know.

1016
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, because the truth is, you know, you know,

1017
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 4>when you work in a golf in a golf store,

1018
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm a bit like an alcoholic in a bottle store

1019
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 4>because you know, I can't help myself. I mean, as

1020
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 4>soon as I look at a driver or a set

1021
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 4>of irons where I said, Jesus, look good, and I

1022
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 4>take my existing irons out and I put the new

1023
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 4>irons in, and I look at this.

1024
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Drive, and I think, you know, and.

1025
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 4>And and I mean it's terrible, you know. I mean,

1026
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 4>can you imagine being a chocoholic in a in a

1027
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 4>sweet shop.

1028
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:15.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not nice, definitely.

1029
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but I mean I can tell I've got

1030
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 4>some customers that aren't even in the golf business, and

1031
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 4>I like that.

1032
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 2>So I'm very thankful for them because they like to

1033
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 2>buy things.

1034
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 4>So you know, it wasn't for it wasn't for bad

1035
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 4>golfers and good customers, we wouldn't have a business.

1036
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 2>So we're very thankful or grateful to our customers.

1037
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.360
<v Speaker 3>And then before I let you go, Jason, would you

1038
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 3>perhaps share a few words of wisdom, especially with new

1039
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 3>entrants in UH into golf, particularly beginners. I don't even

1040
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.840
<v Speaker 3>want to call them amateurs, I'd say beginners coming from

1041
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 3>a feitting's environment and equipment environment. What would be your

1042
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 3>number one tip for people who just started playing golf.

1043
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 4>My number one tip for guys that are getting started

1044
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 4>is to make sure that you don't listen to your

1045
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:10.920
<v Speaker 4>friends who you're playing golf with.

1046
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.000
<v Speaker 2>In terms of instruction.

1047
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 4>If your friends want you to play golf with if

1048
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 4>I say to you, if I'm friends with Tony and

1049
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I say, Tony, I want you to come and play

1050
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 4>golf with me. Okay, I'm not a good example, but

1051
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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say to you. If I'm a ten handicap,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say to you, Tony, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to teach you how to play golf. I want you

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00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 4>to come play golf me, but go and see a

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<v Speaker 4>PGA certified professional for some lessons. Go and get three

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<v Speaker 4>lessons just to get you started, because if I start

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00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 4>teaching you, I'm going to teach you wrong from day one,

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to hate the game. That's from an instruction

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<v Speaker 4>point of view, and then from an equipment point of view. Please,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not knocking the international websites and the box retailers.

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<v Speaker 4>Go and see guys that are good at what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>We and I mean whether it's the pro shop who

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<v Speaker 4>are competitors or ourselves, or you're on course professional, we

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<v Speaker 4>know what we're talking about when it comes to getting

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<v Speaker 4>you started. And if you you know, if you've got

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand around to start, we'll find you a set

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<v Speaker 4>of golf clubs. If you've got ten thousand round to start,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll find you a set of golf clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've seen it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't like it when guys go and they

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<v Speaker 4>bought a set from their friend on Facebook marketplace, and

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<v Speaker 4>they think they got a good deal, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>pitch up and the clubs are completely wrong for them,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and and or just at least come and

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<v Speaker 4>get some advice from us before they you know, before

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<v Speaker 4>you buy anything. That's always tell my stuff never scare

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<v Speaker 4>its customer way by taking them to the twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>rand set irons showing where we start.

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<v Speaker 2>We start with, you know, our biggest sellar is a

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<v Speaker 2>package set.

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<v Speaker 4>A package set is a one stop combination set that's

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<v Speaker 4>got a bag, a butter, said irons, a driver, a fairway,

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<v Speaker 4>a hybrid or the matching covers. You can get away

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<v Speaker 4>with five six or seven thousand round. And even if

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<v Speaker 4>you hate the game, the most you've wasted is five

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<v Speaker 4>five six or seven thousand round when guards get involved

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00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 4>in a drop fifty sixty grand on a set of

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00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 4>clubs and they bought the wrong clubs from a friend

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<v Speaker 4>who suggested this going Oh Jesus to be horrendous.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, that's very true. And once again I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to say thank you, mester Row. It has

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<v Speaker 3>been a good chatting with you, and thank you to

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00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 3>everyone around you who's giving us the opportunity to steal

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<v Speaker 3>an hour from your schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, no problem, no problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you'll be sharpening your chipping skills or your

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00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 3>short game skills over the next couple of days as well,

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<v Speaker 3>since you've also picked up that that's where you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>currently struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. So.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm playing on Friday morning and I've got a

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a four's knockout match at Branston, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never really get nervous about golf, but I can

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<v Speaker 4>tell I don't let my partner down. So tomorrow morning

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be at the range working on my chipping. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a privilege being on your show and great chatting.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, And I just want the listeners

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00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 4>out there to remember golf really, if you haven't played

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<v Speaker 4>it before, get into it. And I promise you it'll

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00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.280
<v Speaker 4>be a game for a lifetime. You can play it

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<v Speaker 4>until you're ninety years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you once again, mister Rowe, and now you must

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<v Speaker 3>have yourself a lovely evening. Further say, and.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, thank you Tony for the best.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, ladies and gentlemen, that is our guest for today,

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<v Speaker 3>mester Jason Rowe, who's the MD of Golf a slub

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<v Speaker 3>and as you heard the man, golf is the only

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00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 3>place where you can literally mix business with pleasure. And

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's in the industry, he understands, he sees

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00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 3>it all. And there's a couple of things that he

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<v Speaker 3>shared which are quite enlightening. To say, listen, from what

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<v Speaker 3>he is seen, most junior us in entities tend to

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00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.400
<v Speaker 3>actually progress quicker when they start playing golf because they

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<v Speaker 3>are now playing with the big boys in different industries

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00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and that's where decisions are made. So, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>now we have gone off our seven pm slot and

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<v Speaker 3>we are currently on FORMU. This is past seven. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say it's always good having this show

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<v Speaker 3>on Wednesdays. And I would like to speak to much

1131
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<v Speaker 3>more and more and more people from different aspects of life,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's only one common thing that binds us together,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is the addiction that we all have for golf.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those who haven't started playing golf, please don't

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<v Speaker 3>be scared when I mentioned the word addiction. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not from a bad content context, but it is from

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<v Speaker 3>a good place where we know that this is the

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<v Speaker 3>This is one spot that will build you as an

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<v Speaker 3>individual mentally, physically, emotionally and uh well, as you said,

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00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 3>as as you've heard, even economy economically can help you advance. So,

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen, like I said, it is only January,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to come with the business of saying

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend has officially started. I want everyone to go

1144
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 3>to the office tomorrow. Go to the office tomorrow. People

1145
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.079
<v Speaker 3>are playing golf on Friday as well, and I want

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<v Speaker 3>them to go and play because for me, I'm startying

1147
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 3>my weekend. Don't follow my trend only after February then

1148
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 3>can we officiate the weekend from Wednesday. So with them

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<v Speaker 3>being said, ladies and gentlemen, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, thank you, thank you, and please continue sharing

1151
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 3>our link with your loved ones, even your enemies and freenemies.

1152
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.119
<v Speaker 3>Make sure that you share with them so that we

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<v Speaker 3>spread the love of gold. This is the one and

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<v Speaker 3>only Tony, Tony the Magician signing out

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<v Speaker 2>The Magician
