Speaker 1: It sound like to run bottle too.
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sitting uh in his bedroom with a bottle of Rye.
Speaker 2: Big Oga sweet Tea, and uh.
Speaker 1: With Carlin sitting there on her phone on social media
because I guess we're not important enough.
Speaker 3: Nope, Carl in San Diego, Carland.
Speaker 2: Do you call it Insta or I g.
Speaker 3: H more likely to call it or Instagram?
Speaker 2: Oh you don't. You don't have a shortened version.
Speaker 3: I mean Insta maybe, but no, I'm I am of
the elder millennial. They say the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I go instant, but I've heard that's a generational thing. Yeah,
the younger kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's Instagram where it's Insta like the ig
thing like occasionally that'll slip out most time. Now, No,
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Speaker 1: Sorry. It does matter.
Speaker 2: Everybody's in the league. The league makes it way more fun,
so it does matter. It's it's like, it is a
very enjoyable thing.
Speaker 1: We have one person in the chat room. Nobody gives
a shit about Survivor.
Speaker 2: That one person does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Tim, you've got notes? Do you
want to talk about this episode of Survivor?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: I finished watching this episode fifteen minutes before we were
supposed to jump on here.
Speaker 2: All right, then it's fresh in your memory. You're ready
to go. This is a three hour We all.
Speaker 1: Kind of forgot that. Oh shit, this episode's probably three hours.
Speaker 3: We didn't forget. Some of us didn't know that it
was going to be a three hour episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, premiere in the finale or three hours everything else.
I think it's an hour and a half. Yeah, but
Survivor goes really quick. Man. This episode is so fast,
such a good such a good episode, great season so far.
My goal tonight, guys is to get through this in
one hour. So I'm gonna go fast. We start off
this this season, this episode of this season called Epic
Party with all sorts of flashbacks to all sorts of
highlights through the years. It's still going on right now.
As you can see. It was a good, like seven
or eight minutes of just Survivor highlights, just the best, uh
survivor moments.
Speaker 1: Did you appreciate this? Did you appreciate sort of a
I'm clips felt.
Speaker 3: Of clips they kind of get. Yeah, it kind of
gave a little bit of backstory to it. The thing
that I didn't care about. It's the same thing that
I don't care about the Challenge. I don't give a
shit about these people's backstories. Yeah, I realized this is
a new show and these are new people to me.
I just don't care.
Speaker 2: I know, I feel sort of the same way. But
just like in the Challenge, some of these players I've
just grown to love and so I do care about those.
Like we'll get into it, like when Christian talks about
his son, like I just remember Christian on.
Speaker 3: His first kid and always get that way with kids.
Speaker 2: That hits me. But Christian was not married on his
first season, but his girlfriend came for the family visit,
so we saw him and his girlfriend interact. It was
as awkward as you would expect a higher nerd a
couple like that to be that they're both clearly like,
have autism and like. But it was awkward and weird
and so silly, And now that I know that they
have a baby, it's really cool. So there are some
things that you get sort of invested in, and I
would imagine without some of the context of some of these,
you might not even understand what some of these moments meant.
But for me, it was kind of cool to see these.
Jeff says that in this season, the fans provide the gameplay,
so some of the game elements the fans were able
to vote on things. I didn't do any of those voting.
Speaker 1: So did you know about this time? Because I had
no idea.
Speaker 2: I knew about it, but I didn't pursue it. I
don't follow the fandom as much as I follow the
challenge fandom.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you had heard, like, oh, you
get to vote on some aspects of the show, did
that interest you enough to go to the website and
be like, well, let me vote?
Speaker 2: Not me personally, No, I'm more of an observer, and
I don't have a strong preference about these things. But so, yeah,
and we'll find out more about what the influence the
fans have. But it does seem like Shot in the
Dark does not exist this season. Nobody mentioned it, so
I think, well, shot in the Dark is not.
Speaker 1: But then why I noticed during Tribal Council is the
little tower that they usually put it in.
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe some play and nobody noticed it.
Speaker 1: I don't mention it.
Speaker 3: So do they typically mention that at the beginning of
the game.
Speaker 2: Well, shot in the Dark is a relatively new game edition,
and so usually at the beginning of the season, he'll
just throw it out there real quick, like, shot in
the Dark is that play this season or you know whatever.
He didn't say that, but that doesn't mean it's not.
It just means we didn't see it. Maybe all right,
So we see the castaways crossing the ocean, this is
a every season of Survivor. We see them kind of
getting to the camps, which I love to see.
Speaker 1: They're all in one boat. Yeah, they haven't been pre
sorted into their teams.
Speaker 2: That's right. Normally you're already on your team boat and
you're not allowed to talk. I imagine that's also super awkward.
You're not allowed to talk until Jeff is talking to you,
So you're just surrounded by these people and like in
peer silence. Super weird.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're not allowed to talk to each other.
Speaker 2: I imagine these returning seasons are different because these guys
like know each other and their friends outside of the show,
but yes, new Survivors, while they're like en route to
the show, they are not allowed to speak.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, for me anyway, it was really nice to
see all these players again. I don't know if Wolf
of you had the same thoughts, but like to see
Christian again and Devin's it was like, it's like when
we see some of our favorite challengers come back, it's like, oh,
it's nice to see that person again.
Speaker 1: I did not so much of them coming onto the beach,
but when they showed the montages at the very beginning
of just all these moments. Even though I didn't watch Survivor,
I've only watched like maybe three or four seasons, but
I was aware of like the cultural touchstone of the show,
so I did get a little emotional, just like, oh shit,
season fifty. Here's like this whole history of the show
and like, hmmm, summed up in like seven minutes, like
you said, yeah, so yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: Jeff talks about some of the legends of Survivor and
how we got there. He says, seven hundred and fifty
one people have played this game.
Speaker 3: That's impressive, I think, really really.
Speaker 2: Cool stat I just I don't there's something that's cool
about that to me.
Speaker 3: I don't know, me being that, I don't think the
challenge is anywhere near that number because they keep bringing
back so many of their players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did so.
Speaker 3: When they were all lined up on the beach, I
had a few thoughts. One, did Jonathan dress like that
to make sure that we recognized him, because he, like
a lot of them, were dressed very similar to their
old school pictures.
Speaker 2: I think they make them do that on purpose, so it's, yeah,
you're kind of like wearing a costume of yourself so
that they can kind of, yeah, relate you to your
previous seasons.
Speaker 3: And second, Jenna immediately rubbed right, she's the one from
season one. Yeah, immediately rubbed me the wrong way. Made
me feel like, you're gonna rub this whole I'm from
the first season thing in everybody's face. Yeah, and she
did imed came off that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, she's a legend though, man, season one, it's
pretty cool. She was one of the stand ups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, season one doesn't make you a legend.
Speaker 2: And well, no, I know, but then she was in
the All Stars too, and then like, I don't know,
it was just it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if she is if her gameplay is worth it,
then she's a legend. But just being on the first
season doesn't make you a legend. I think it was Ariselli.
I think that might have been her name. I don't know,
I can't remember anyway. One of the women from the Challenge,
the one who fell down the stairs of the bus
when they came in for the first season of not
All Stars but of the Mark Lungs the old school seasons.
Speaker 2: Huh it's all Stars?
Speaker 3: Is it all Stars? It is All Stars? You're right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The woman who fell down the down the stairs of
the bus, short curly, No, not a best whatever anyway
she challenge she was no, But I was trying to
remember her name last season, the last episode two and
I couldn't then either. But to me, like coming in
and being a someone who played on the first first season.
She was like, I don't I don't care, like just
because you were there for the first season. Not impressed,
Absolutely nothing to me.
Speaker 2: Not impressed. Yeah, Jenna, I personally, I have a note
that I think she looks great after twenty five years. Damn,
she's still looking good. Uh. He hits up Mike White.
He says, Mike White, you're super fucking ultra famous now
and have one of the you know, most famous TV
shows of all time? Why are you here? And he
just says he has fomo. Uh. He's the one that
drops the epic party line. He loves these people. I
really do think, Mike, they're just like us. Yeah. I
really think he's just a fan of Survivor. I mean
he talks about like being intimidated by like Coach, which
is weird because Coach is like some fucking nobody guy
and Mike White is this big, like Hollywood executive producer guy.
But it's just interesting. I like, I just like Mike.
I like his sort of presence or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, later on it cracked me up because he was
talking about how he's there to have fun and all
that sort of thing, and my thought was, dude, you're
there to have fun. But he's's got millions in the
bank back home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't really give a shit about winning. I
think he probably wants the title, but yeah, he doesn't
need the money. And he's I think he's just there
to play his role in Survivor. You know, that's fine.
And then he hits up Saria. Every season does this.
I'm the one that got off the couch thing, and
I came out here and I got real old.
Speaker 3: That was kind of like this sleeping in my uniform.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's that, and it's every season and this is
Suri and like, and I love Suri. I'm not trying
to talk shit about her, but it's like we've seen
this the same talk a bunch. I'm just sort of
done with this talk. Just lets him up into their teams.
I'm not gonna go over where their team names are.
I can never remember them. They're weird. I'm just gonna
go over their colors.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they're islands in Tahiti.
Speaker 2: Probably, they're always some theme. I don't even I don't
care about the names. We have. The purple team. Purple
team is uh, yes, don't don't care. Purple Team is
Genevieve q Aubrey, Who's so beautiful this episode? So beautiful,
Rez God, Stephanie, Kyle, Angelina and Colby, teal Is, Tiffany, Mike, Coach, Camilla,
Jonathan Deetch, Charlie and Chrissy, and Orange Is Devin's Savannah, Jenna, Joe, Serie, Christian,
Ozzie and Emily. Jeff says that these are the first
things that they presented to the fans. Fans, do they
do we just give them rice and supplies? Or do
we make them fight to earn it?
Speaker 3: Okay? The fact that they started cheering, like when he
kind of faked them out, like, oh, we're gonna give
you rice. The fact that they started cheering like they
seriously thought that fans were going to vote to give
them supplies and rice? Right up? Who the fuck do
they think they are? What game do they think they're on?
Even I know that that's a stupid thing to cheer for.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it was so close. He said the
statistics like fifty three percent said no rice or so,
I'm surprised it was that low, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was really surprised. As well. I
would have thought that it would have been like the eighties. Yeah,
He's like, no, any of these games, don't give them
that shit. Start off with.
Speaker 2: Make it as hard as possible.
Speaker 3: Always have to fight for it. Like I don't care
what game you're playing, you have to fight for your shit.
Speaker 2: Yep, especially in this new season, this new version of Survivor,
so Carlin, starting in season forty one, they shortened the season.
It used to be thirty nine days on the island.
It is now twenty six.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: And so because they shortened the season, they made it harder.
They took away things like rice and the supplies you
have to now like sometimes you don't get rice, sometimes
you don't have a fire. When you have thirty nine days,
you always had rice and fire.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get that, like you're you're there for
over a month, Like, yeah, you need something I did.
Speaker 1: I just sent a picture. Does that look like the
shot in Carlin? You won't know. Does that look like
the shot in the dark thing in the voting section?
Speaker 2: It could be because the yeah, the main pot is
over there on the left hand side of the screen. Yeah,
that could be the little shot in the dark bas.
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't know. Well, yeah, I guess
we'll have to see.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Throughout the season, nobody mentioned it. Nobody said
a word confirming or denying, so it's I guess it
could be either way. And with that one of the
first challenge already, this is a reward's challenge. This is
when you're gonna figure out if you're gonna get rice
read you get to today's reward shout hell, yes we are.
Jeff explains that all three times will be competing. The
first tribe to win will get fire in the form
of flint, but also in the form of a bonfire
waiting for you at camp, So you don't even have
to fuck around with lighting a fire with flint. You've
already got a fire lit for you. Oh, which is
pretty cool. Coach summoning the dragon slayer in the back.
Carlin is a new viewer. How do you feel about
Coach doing his weird like tai chi shit all the
time and his like power moves.
Speaker 3: I kind of felt like, was it was it Turbo
always doing the dragon ball z shit?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very similar. Kind of felt like that, except
dragon slayers and a weird sixty he is still doing
this ship.
Speaker 3: Amazing whatever, if it's his thing. I do say he
did not look anywhere near as weird as he did
in his photo.
Speaker 2: Coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his photo makes him look like weird and kind
of creepy, and he looks like he's grown into his
life quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and tell like Carlyn, you can confirm it
deny this. But I've always looked at Coach and thought like,
that's a good looking dude. Actually, like that's a dude
who could probably until he.
Speaker 3: Starts talking, he could be very good looking, but he could.
Speaker 2: Probably get the lady. Like I could see him being
a physically attractive man. He's just so weird. All right,
I'm not gonna go over the rules. Really, all of
the Survivor games are similar to this, Carlin. It's always
like puzzle, all right, you're gonna like all these Survivor games,
these are all various.
Speaker 3: I liked this game because it was relatively fast paced.
Everybody had had a part. It required like everybody had
something physical to do, and they like it was. Everything
was shown you saw all Honestly, this entire episode. The
one thing that I really appreciate, you see everything. I'm
so tired of the Challenge and them doing the like
the weird camera angles you can kind of see everybody,
but you can't really so that they can kind of
fudge like, oh, these people are really far ahead or
not really far ahead, or like these you have no
idea who these players are. Like, yeah, I'm so tired
of that shit. I'm also really tired of like any
time someone gets hurt, they disappear and then come back
and it's a surprise and just all of the things.
Speaker 2: Dum. Survivor's got way better games than the Challenge. And
it's not close. It's they're way better to watch. They're
way better. They're more interactive, they're physical, but there's also
there's always a mental element. There's always the only.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only downside of this is that it was
a very fast game. This thing looked like it took
place in less than fifteen minutes. Yeah, which I mean
for this kind of a game, it probably was a
real quick like it makes sense to be real quick,
but I'm just thinking, like how you would extend it
for the challenge, Like there are no pyrotechnics, which I
really appreciated.
Speaker 2: Yes, my god, Yeah, no Survivor games are legit. I
really do like them the best. I took note of
this during the competition. Jeff calls Christian Hubiki. That's his
last name. So if Jeff really likes you, he starts
calling you by your last name. There's been a few
instances of this over the years, Like Colby, he used
to call Colby Donaldson. Okay, there was a guy named
Savage that it would that he would call Savage anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh, Savage, I mean, honestly, that's just kind of a
fun last name to have fun. It's a fun name
just to have in a game like this.
Speaker 2: It's a badass last name. Uh. But so Jeff calls
him who Bickie, which is like that I feel like
that graduates Christian of this upper class of survivors.
Speaker 3: Like Christian he was that like sunny, kind of weird,
odd nerd and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Yes, a super nerd, but just like so charming and
so sort of like innocent feeling and sounding. And I
don't know, I just love Christian anyway. I don't have
many other notes here, oh, except I do see that Colby,
I guess had to splash in the water, and like
he got a splash of water right in the middle
of his ass, look like he shot himself in one
part of the challenge. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then like as Purple is about to win, we
get a shot of Angelina says, oh my god, we're
gonna win. What the hell is just so surprised. It's great.
Speaker 3: Uh. What do you guys think? Okay, so as far
as like the teams, what do you think of the
like of the teams themselves? Because that middle team, was
it Purple or no, maybe it's Blue whatever one they
coached and Jonathan or on that one, that team seems
fucking stacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yes, I think. Uh, let me see,
I think Teal Teal is the one you're talking about.
That's one of coach and Jonathan. I think Orange is
probably the weakest when it comes to actual challenges. That's
Devin's Savannah, Jenna, Joe, Serie, Christian Ozzi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem like they might. They seem like they
have some smarts in there, but it does seem like
they are probably the weakest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have a big, hulking brute of a
man like Jonathan. The closest they got is Joe. Yeah,
Joe's big, but Joe's not Jonathan.
Speaker 3: Jonathan and Coach on the same team like physically wise unfair?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, So Purple wins Fire. So we're done
with the Fire challenge. Now we're on the Rice challenge.
For this one, each team has to pick one representative
for their team. Those three will go on to battle
each other. Whoever wins gets the supplies. The supplies are
like a pot, machete, and a I think it might be.
Speaker 3: A DoD They also get rice. They just showed us
the actual actual supplies.
Speaker 2: Rice was the first chow. Oh no, fire was the
first challenge. Guess rice must be the second challenge too.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because the second challenge was supplies, but it
didn't show any rice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll say rice too, but who knows? Who knows?
I'm making it up. As they go along, the teams
pick Coach, Ozzie, and Q as their team representatives to
go challenge this thing.
Speaker 1: We should point out because Carlin, since sure, I'll watch
the show a lot, being you have to go on
a journey like right away m hm is you don't
want to be one of the people that has to go.
You'll you'll find out survivor. Since it's a very social.
Speaker 3: Game, you're away, well, it's.
Speaker 1: Not even that you don't want to not be in
camp with everybody else. Even if everybody was at the camp,
you don't want to go wander off by yourself because
that gives everybody a moment to like check, strategize, let's
come up with somebody we're going to get rid of.
As you saw on this episode on all the teams
that came up with somebody, and if you are not
present in the camp making social relationships with people, that
automatically just makes you an easy target.
Speaker 2: Those first couple of days are super important.
Speaker 1: So being chosen to go on this trip, even though
we didn't even know anything about what we're going to
say with part of it, like it's it's not good
to be away from the group, especially before they even
got to camp. This is it's not good to be chosen.
Even though all these people have already played the game,
it's still is just like almost like a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's totally backwards from the challenge. Like normally if
there's if there's like a special or like a journey
or something like that, then it's usually like a go
be that bad ass go bring that bacon home type
of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, towards the end, as we get deeper to the season,
before the merged, people will want to go on these
journeys because their home alliances are solidified. Yeah, and they
feel like they can take some time out for an
advantage or something.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So yeah, these first couples you see, you know, these
first couple episodes, you see people not wanting to do it,
but in a few episodes you'll see them start volunteering
to do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I was going to ask One of my
questions was why is Ozzie the guy who should fight
for supplies against coach? But then they answered it soon
after that. Also, someone there were there were two people
in this. I'm trying to remember who it was, but
someone said they it was it was and somebody else.
I can't remember who the other person was. It might
have been Jenna, I don't remember. Anyway, she said to
the camera, Oh, we have this unspoken bond, like we're
you know, we're in each other's camps, and the only
thing I think of is unspoken bonds are bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be.
Speaker 3: You have to say that out loud. Yeah, like you
have to. You have to say it. If you think
that you have a spoken, you have a bond with someone,
even if you have known them for thirty fucking years,
you have to say that shit out loud.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Especially there is such a good chance that they are
going to stab you in the back and or you
are going to perceive them as stabbing you in the
back and they won't even realize that you thought that
that was an issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yep. And that's that's the thing with Survivor.
It's like your your promise is matter, and so if
you don't make a promise, it's sort of like we
we're about to see it right now, right with Coach.
He saw Ozzie and c make the promise to each other, yep,
and Coach is like, I ain't fucking doing that, Like, uh,
I'm playing the game the way it's supposed to be playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So no, I just that was just something that's stuck
out in my memory immediately because we've seen it happen
on the Challenge so many times. Yeah, where you know
people well you know, we don't even have to talk,
we just have we have this thing. No, dude, unless
you say it out loud. Yep, it's not a thing.
Speaker 2: Yep, agreed. Oh we get Rizcott talking. I fucking love Rizzo.
He's just the coolest little that's just the coolest dude.
He talks about how crazy it is to play with
people there that he idolized, like Colby and you know,
these people that he's watched for years and years. But
he's also like, I'm not scared of them and I'm
gonna have to take them out. I just think he
takes this as a game. He's just fucking around. He's
there to have fun. He's going to play aggressively, and
he's just fun. He's a fun dude.
Speaker 3: When when Kolby was saying that he was also annoying
some of the ship that they were showing, I would
have gotten exceedingly annoyed with as well.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure he's annoying, but he's fun to watch.
I do like watch.
Speaker 1: Him right now.
Speaker 3: He just strikes me as kind of awkward and too much.
And yep, I'm not really sure how I feel about
him quite yet.
Speaker 2: Oh just wait, just wait, That's how I felt at first.
Now I'm in love with the guy.
Speaker 3: I see that we're.
Speaker 2: Back at camp. I love these camp scenes of them,
like building their shelter and stuff, and we see Colby
just busting his ass with this machete and shit, just
tearing shit down, and Angelina says, like, Colby, you gotta
pace yourself, and Colby just says, this is my pace
and gives a little wink. This guy's pure riz, right,
this guy's fucking. This guy could get in your pants,
can for sure?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: He's good looking, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Very dashing man. Woof, you could get into your pants too,
right suh, so charming.
Speaker 3: We all know that he'd get into Tim's pants, so
totally Colby, Oh yeah, dream boat.
Speaker 2: He ends up. So yes, it was Stephanie who you
were talking about that was saying that she and Colby
have this unspoken bond, and we did see them talking
and having fun together and it looked like they were
working together. But yeah, we didn't see We didn't say
Colby reflect that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's no strategy there. And like I said,
you guys can know each other for years, but if
he feels like he's got a better bond with other
people that are there, if you don't say it out loud,
then he's not gonna know yep.
Speaker 2: All right, we're on the key the teal camp. Now
we're seeing them get all set up. We get a
big scene with d K. Were you excited to see
somebody that you actually know on the show.
Speaker 3: I don't really care about d but I freaking love
that Mike White asked her for teeth.
Speaker 2: Mike is fucking season. She's like, no hesitation either. He's
just like, I don't give a fuck, what about your chompers?
Speaker 3: On top of it, like he he is from Hollywood.
She knows that he's from Hollywood. Like it just it
cracked me up. And yeah, he gave no ships, gave
no ships, and luckily she straight back at him. No,
she's just laughing, she laughed funny.
Speaker 2: I think there's something about Mike that like, and he's
just prants around his underwear and you know, obviously, yeah,
look at the maps man on that he did not
look like that in his first season. Man, he did
not look like that.
Speaker 1: Fucking Jonathan was like, yeah, speechless.
Speaker 2: So Mike was waiting for the chance to take that
shirt off. Man was like, one second he could. It's like,
check me out.
Speaker 3: I would never his face gives dad bod, but this
body does not yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh man, And it's still weird when like his face
doesn't match his body.
Speaker 3: It's like, so it looks kind of strange shirt on.
I was, what is happening right now? We've taken ahead
of someone else and put it on this body, Like
what is going on?
Speaker 2: Good for Mike, But he also goes into a strategy
a little bit here too, which is like he doesn't
want to be perceived as a threat. He doesn't want
to be like the Hollywood producer, smart money guy, so
he like demeans himself. He calls himself the grandpa. He
like kind of is making a fool of himself saying
stupid things I did too, And I just love that
that's part of his strategy. He knows that he's a
smart guy and he has no real ego about it,
so he's just like, fuck it, I'll just do what
I can to make myself look like not a threat yep,
which I thought was pretty cool. We saw Charlie and
Mike chat. I don't know why. I just feel like
these two are going to get along. It was kind
of cool to see them talking.
Speaker 3: I don't remember who Charlie is.
Speaker 2: Charlie is a skinny he's like the like skinny white.
Speaker 3: Guy, gay guy, always the other nerd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a nerd. He got young guy. Yes
he wore coach, Yes, he did coaches towing. Speaking of
goofballs back at camp, Devon's is also being a goofball
back at his camp. That's the Orange Beach. He's like,
he like fell while he was trying to build the
shelter and made some nick newscaster joke ause he stood
up and ship, well we're back. Yeah. I loved.
Speaker 3: Jerry's still out on him because I think he could
be a lot of fun. But I could also see
the newscaster thing getting real annoying, Like there was somebody
on the challenge. You're like a newer person.
Speaker 1: You guys hated the sports sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the sports guy on the Challenge a few years ago.
Fucking despised. He's so annoying.
Speaker 2: So like, is funny.
Speaker 3: He's treading a fine line with me right now, Like
right now, it's still okay, but it could really easily
drop off.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm waiting to see where else you land
with Devons. I think he's great. We get Savannah talking
to the rest of her tribe and she says in
her confessional that it's only been two weeks since her
last season, which seems insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nuts.
Speaker 2: Her and riz God played back to back, so they.
Speaker 1: Both would all that torture and then sign up to
do it again two weeks later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this exchange, it just.
Speaker 3: It makes me wonder, like did they go home and
like reacclimate to the world or what they do in between.
Speaker 1: Just hanging out in the hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 1: My guess is they probably stayed because you would have
to quarantine. Usually quarantine people for a couple weeks for
COVID and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also just they I think that they keep people.
They so when you get kicked off the show, Carlyn,
they keep you in a place they keep everybody.
Speaker 3: If they do that for a lot of shows.
Speaker 2: It's called the pond Rosa where they go. And so
it's like maybe they just stay at the Ponderosa for
a few weeks, because yeah, you're not supposed to go
back to you know, you can't talk to the media
and ship yet your season's not aired yet.
Speaker 3: The hell do you do if you have a job.
I think I'm taking a month off. Oh, I'm also
taking another month off and two weeks in between them.
Speaker 1: I mean she won, so I mean, yeah, they're going
to fire me. I have a million dollars, so fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But this is why I like, this is one
of many reasons why Savanna rubs me the wrong way.
And it's I can't verbalize why she bothers me the
way she does. Just sort of like her add tune
and her approach to things just bother me. When she
was talking about being on forty nine and everybody was like, oh,
how'd you do? And she's like, well, do you have
any guesses as to how I did? And like just
everybody kind of like it's just crickets. Like everybody was like, no,
I don't want to guess, just tell me. And then
she's like, oh, why she did that?
Speaker 3: Like in the like, I mean, I don't want to
just like i'd be like I want like look at me.
Speaker 2: It's not like that's what it was. It felt like
it feels more like that to me.
Speaker 3: I could see how she would think it's a way
of not doing the look at me, look at me,
but it came off very like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this thing, it's how was she did? She
deserve to win.
Speaker 2: I I mean, I don't think so. Like, I mean,
here's the deal. Because of the jury system that what
they say in Survivor is all winners deserve it. Because
we are not on the jury, we don't understand they
played the game and won it, so you've got to
say that they deserved it. But I just liked her
the whole time for reasons like that, Like I can't
put it into words.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: It's just like she says things and they just bug me.
Like when she was playing against Colby and Colby was makeup.
Colby was like shaking and he's like, I don't I
don't know, Savannah, I don't feel good about this, and
she's just like you got this, Colby. I was just like,
fuck off, Savannah, Like why did you say that? Whereas
it's like if anybody else said those same words, it
probably wouldn't have bothered me. I don't I don't know
what it is about Savannah, but she orows me the
wrong way.
Speaker 3: I want to say she's got pretty girl syndrome, but
I don't even know what what that would really mean.
Speaker 1: It feels that people gave her stuff she's she's never had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's not even it's not even that,
it's just it feels like, I mean, maybe it is that.
I don't know, it feels like maybe she was kind
of the like the high school cheerleader, the popular one
type of thing, and maybe it is the pretty girl
syndrome that I'm drinking.
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch thirty Rock?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Not really, John hamiazon for a short stint as a look,
and his whole character was girl syndrome was that he's
so handsome. He doesn't understand what it's like to not
be handsome. So she had to explain to him, like,
people give you things and do things for you because
you're handsome, and he doesn't understand it. So she tries
a thing where he she makes him ugly and he
hates it, and he's like, I don't like this anymore.
I just want to be handsome. I want people to
give me stuff and I want people to do stuff
for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I can see being like that. She
just I don't she seems inauthentic or something. I don't know.
She just bothers me.
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 2: Jenna comes out swinging real hard against Suri Man like
Jenny WANTSI there. She is pushing hard and she is
saying Suri's name to anybody that she can horrible approach
of the game. This is awful. You don't want to
say a name hor approach.
Speaker 3: To any game. You don't do that in challenge either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no is like your last resort.
Speaker 3: Yeah that especially that first day or two, that first week,
you don't say shit. Yep, you get to know everybody,
you feel people out have like a best friend there
that you guys are legitimately best not like a game
best friend, but real best friends. But you really, like
you know, a husband or a wife or like a
best friend that you're with all the time outside of
the game, and you guys are there together, then maybe
like whispers in the corner, you say that ship, but
you don't say that ship with your whole chest to everybody.
Especially that was wild.
Speaker 2: They don't even know if they're going to tribal yet.
She doesn't need to say a name. They don't. They're
not they haven't lost community yet.
Speaker 3: Like oh okay, I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: This is a hypothetical? So like you normally you don't
say a name until you know you're going to tribal. Yeah,
otherwise there's no point in even talking about like why
maybe it always.
Speaker 3: Just had the that first game and so we didn't
do that bad, like there was no there's nothing to
really do bad in. Yeah, the worst showing in that
game was Camilla trying to get under the bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, SIIA is notably like notoriously bad in challenges,
like just straight up, so like that's this is not
an unfounded fear. SIA is bad and challenging, but it's
also like it's just too early, like they might they
might get to the merge without ever going to Trible,
in which case, just keep your fucking trap shut, Jenna.
You don't need to be making enemies when you're not
even going to Trible.
Speaker 1: Because even like on the challenge, a lot of people
throw their I mean, people just know other people's game,
like right away, like Johnny knows fucking Devin is gonna
be working against him. Mm hmm. That's just how it goes.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, we knew that Wes and Johnny
would be button heads. Yes, there are certain games you
know immediately that's what's going to be going on.
Speaker 1: For these games, you don't play your hand nobody should
know what your gameplay strategy is. Even people that you
are have like lined up with, you don't just go
up to them and be like, so, let's get rid
of so and so. Like if someone comes up to
you and is like, let's how what do you think
of so and so, then you're like, okay, yeah, let's
do it. But you don't just walk around just blabbing
everybody like yeah, yeah, this is who I'm targeting, Like
that's that's as you saw. Yeah, now for anything in
this game.
Speaker 2: Yep, bad times all right, So that's it about at
the teams. Now we're back with a coach and Ozzy
and c they're at their own challenge thing to get
the supplies. We see Coach and Ozzie reunite. The last
time they played together was this season called South Pacific,
and Ozzy and Coach played the game mostly together. They
were in a strong alliance together kind of ruled the game.
Speaker 3: Oh I missed that part, okay.
Speaker 2: And Coach cut Ozzy I think at final four maybe,
and Ozzy felt totally like backstabbed and you know whatever,
and really he coach did backstab and Coach did the
unhonorable thing dishonorable thing. He lied to Ozzy. Ozzy got
out Ozzy against them, Coach lost, and this is like
they're making amends moment, right, and really they both do
seem to give genuine volumes yes on both sides. Ozzie said, hey,
you should have won. I probably should have voted for you.
I you know, I tanked your chances at jury. I
shouldn't have done it. And Coach said, well, it was
actually my fault. I betrayed you. I should have taken
you to the end like I said I was going to.
I really I thought this was a good little apologies.
I thought this was adults twenty years later, like making
a genuine amends.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, poor Cue. He's just sort of in the background,
wh all this shit's happening.
Speaker 3: Just look at them, like, I don't know. Interview people
are Yeah, it was very very good.
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't want to make enemies if either
one of you. So yeah, to hash out whatever you
need to hash out.
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, So this is again, it's just another challenge
like the last one. You gotta do a series of
different types of things and then you get a key
and then you win the thing. Ozzie's a crazy challenge beast.
I thought he'd aged, and I thought maybe he wouldn't
be quite as good at challenges as he used to be.
But holy fucking shit, this guy, he's the fucking guy.
Speaker 3: Through the first like three quarters of this challenge.
Speaker 2: Jesus, this guy unbelievable. Like in the water, he's just
so fast, Like he's such a good impressive, he's a
good digger. Like, it's just he just fucking rocked this thing.
But you get to the very last thing, which is
where you tie sticks together, also a pretty common survivor thing.
You tie these sticks together to get a key that's
a very long way away. Uh, and Ozzy just can't
kind of get it together. This stick thing is too floppy,
he can't reach it, and he spends a full half
hour trying and failing to get this key, and he
gives the other guys a chance to catch up. So
here they are. They are perfectly even, they're on the
exact same space. Even though Ozzie ripped through that first
couple sections of the challenge.
Speaker 3: I do have to say I was really surprised because
I'm so used to TJ being there for every single challenge,
every single elimination, all of the big things. He's the
one who says go, He's the one who says stop. Ali.
I was very surprised when they got to this this
portion of the game and it was just the three
of them and the cameramen. Yeah, like there was no
no referee saying okay, got like it was just pure honor,
like we're all going to stand here, someone's gonna say, oh,
we're all going to go yep. I was very surprised
by that these are rare.
Speaker 2: This might be the only time this season you'll see so.
I guess the journeys are this way too. Journeys, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: It's just it just to see adults playing a game.
Was also that it just showed the shot of uh
having to dig in the sand. I'm pretty sure that
that was one of the pas or something that black dreads.
That's always none of them are black men with dreads.
Speaker 2: It's always they always show the demo and it's always
like non players, like they must be that purpose.
Speaker 3: I looked at it, I was like, wait, am I
am I missing no Q doesn't have dreads And that's
always like.
Speaker 1: To use how the challenge uses actual footage to show it.
They always have, like they've had somebody run through the
course already and have filmed it to use as like
a demo from what the play is going to be.
Speaker 2: Like yep, gotcha. All right, So we touched on this earlier,
but this is the one where Ozzie and Q make
the statement that like, hey, whoever knocks the key off,
we're just gonna let the person get it, like they.
Speaker 3: Ozzy makes the statement. Q just kind of says uh
huh kind of, he kind of does a he makes
a somewhat to middle like yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Coach says, no, he's not gonna do that,
and really he doesn't say anything. He doesn't, he doesn't
say anything. But really it is it's whoever gets the key.
It is fair to steal the key. That is not
against the rules. It's not shady. It's how this game
is played, and so that's what Coach does. Ozzie knocks
the thing off, Q kind of backs away and Coach
Coach Coach deals it from Ozzie and he says sorry.
Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I don't even think that he stole it.
He just it's it, like, yeah, he was too hot,
Ozzie knocked it off when he was standing on the
very top of that fence, Like, if you're gonna do that,
then you gotta be ready to get to the bottom
of that fence immediately to drag it across the sand,
or have a way to drag it across the sand.
Like it's it's not a stolen thing, Like you're literally
hanging on his thing and he came up and took
it off of there, then I would consider that stolen.
But it's the game, not even that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you and I are saying the
same thing. Coach followed the rules and this there was
nothing dishonorable about this win. He was just playing the game.
Speaker 1: Coach, which is Ozzie had this long, like floppy like
almost like a whip, Like I'm gonna try to get
the key off if i can whip it off of
the post. Coach was like, I'm gonna make the first
four lengths of this really sturdy so that if Ozzie
grabs the key and drags it, I can just reach
my little sturdy stick out and just grab it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pull it.
Speaker 2: Away, And that's what he did.
Speaker 3: I was also like, again, this is my like I've
seen every citizen at the Challenge brain and like you
if you if you are trying to make a deal
with someone in a situation like this, they have to
respond back to you oh yeah yeah, And if you
don't get that response, then there is no deal.
Speaker 2: Answer is an answer, yes for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I mean the fact that the.
Speaker 1: Fact that the name is Kyle, I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it. I was so surprised that Ozzie
kind of threw away his chance at winning this game
without like he didn't make the the extra effort to like,
I don't know, it just it. It struck me as
very odd to see him not only say oh, well,
whoever gets it gets it, and then also be so
upset when coach follows the rules of the game and
gets it like yep, up there and be like, oh
let me have it man.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yep. I think for Ozzie it's probably an
extension of the coach cutting him at Final four or
whatever during his season. It's like, who cares, this is how,
this is the game. There's nothing against the rules that
he did. This is honorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's also been what fifteen years since that happened. And
neither of you won a million dollars, so it's not
like you're a million dollars short from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, So Coach wins, He gets the supplies,
They send him on his way, and the other two
stay behind to read a clue. The clue is basically,
you're stuck on this island all night. You don't get
to leave. You're on exile island.
Speaker 1: Welcome to exact.
Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense now that well, now
that you've said the bit about you don't want to
go away for an extended period of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he misses a whole night.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty big punishment. Missed the entire first night
of being a camp.
Speaker 2: In a way, it's a good thing that these are legends,
Coach and Ozzie, because I think the newer kids would
have been a much easier cut had they been ostracized
from the camp for twenty four hours or whatever whatever
it was. Yeah, Coach gets back to his camp. He
gets the heroes welcome, which Coach just I think he
lives for this ship just to get recognized and I
clap and form and shit. Yep, So he's he's high
on life. This is the toe ring scene that you
talked about, Carlin, Charlie tries on the toe ring. Weird.
Chrissy is gunning really early for Savannah. So we're talking
about players throwing out names when they don't need to
throw them out, and it's.
Speaker 3: The one who just won, right yep, Chris. I'm gonna
have so much trouble trying to remember I'm so good
with all the names that.
Speaker 1: Even on non veteran seasons I can't do. You don't
even bother learning people's names.
Speaker 2: You just watch till the merge. I don't till the merge. Yeah,
I pick a couple favorites, but I yeah, I typically
don't know names till the merge. Okay, we see Devin's
and Christian really bonding at camp, and thank god, these
are two of my favorite players. I love that they
are getting along so much. They have this real romance
going on. They are just into each other, and I'm love.
Speaker 3: I wrote a note and it's I think it's technically
for just a little bit later when Christian is doing
the stuff with the glasses, but it was supposed to
say something like Christian is like goofy cool or or
like geeky cool, so that, but I apparently didn't type
it incorrectly, so it says Christian is gay cool, and
I don't know where it came from. That's like how
we got there.
Speaker 2: Not gay at all.
Speaker 3: No, definitely not what I intended to write.
Speaker 2: So Carlyn, I'm curious to see if you like these scenes,
because this is why I love Survivor of these I
like to see these alliances forming. I like to see
the politics in action, and these next few scenes, are
you see these these alliances start to gel? Yeah, Evans
and Christian are working together. Devin's then goes and invites
Emily into their trio. So now those are the three.
Emily's like wonderful.
Speaker 1: She's the one we talked about on the pre show
that she had to reconfigure her game approach because she.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of she might have some autism or it
does have autism, something of that sort.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she was very off putting in her season too,
until like see episode five or six or whatever it was,
when she like figured it out, like, oh, I have
to act this other way to stay in this game.
And since she started doing that, man, I love her.
She's She's just great, you can tell. Yeah, she's learned
a lot and grown a lot. I really like this. Yeah,
and she talks to the camera. She says, Season forty
five was her season, and that was really difficult. Nobody
wanted to work with her. She was always on the outs,
and this is different. People are coming to her, they
want to work with her. Uh so, yeah, she's she's
kind of in. We also see Colby and Kyle. They're
bonding I think because they're both just hard workers. They're
busting their asset camp building the shelter and stuff, and
I think they just see that hard worker gene and
each other, so they're starting to kind of work together. Aubrey,
Oh my gosh, Aubrey, she's so pretty. She's talking to
Genevieve about maybe working together. But this is that awkward
ass conversation between those two women where Aubrey's like, what's
your deal? I'm trying to figure out what's going on
with you and Jen's being sort of guarded and yeah.
Speaker 3: They're both doing the same things, saying that they're dangerous
but like we could be really good together, but we
also don't trust each other. Yeah, it was it was
an interesting conversation to see this.
Speaker 2: Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Yes, yeah,
I mean these are both very strong, very smart women,
very strategic. Aubrey's much prettier obviously than Genevieve, but you know,
other than that similar.
Speaker 1: Character, this is one of those things. It kind of
goes against some of the ethos of Survivor Or, like
the play strategy of Survivor from what I've noticed a
handful of seasons I watched, because like we watch the challenge,
someone comes up to someone I would like to work together.
Usually there's a hash out, well what do I get
out of it? Blah blah blah, and then they go
back and forth and then there's like, eh, maybe I
think we can make this work. Survivor, if someone comes
up and says I would like to work with you,
it's an automatic yes, even if you don't plan on
working with them. You have to tell them yes. You
don't say no, because then that will make them target
automatically say yes, and you make them believe you're working together,
even if you plan on like completely backstepping. Okay, so
the conversation's weird that they're both like, would you like
to work together? I don't know, you seem dangerous and
they're both doing it like it's just very odd.
Speaker 2: So this was a very strange conversation, but I loved it.
Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense though, as far as
Survivor players coming into the challenge, because there have definitely
been time where we have talked about it on this
pod where people, I want to say Michelle may have
been one of them, where they have said like, yeah,
let's work together, and then the very next episode stabs
them in the back. And in the challenge that is
a big no no. You say yes, we're working together.
That means you are working together. There is no stab
of each other on the back type of thing, or
you have a blacklisted.
Speaker 2: That is actually in Survivor world, it is actually a
good thing. When you do that, you can then when
you're pitching to the jury, you can say like, well,
I made this big move. I stabbed that player in
the back to get a little further. So yeah, you
get a kind of story.
Speaker 1: They came to me to work with me, and I
drew them in the hook line and.
Speaker 3: Sin yeah, yeah, no, that's wild. It's there are so
many things in this game that are so completely different,
like one eight different from the challenge yep, I'm enjoying us.
Speaker 2: So we're on auxile Island, and from what exile island now?
So it's where Ozzie and.
Speaker 3: Q are I heard eggs salad?
Speaker 2: Not egg salad. They're on exile island instead of eggs out.
They're eating bugs and shit bugs are crawling into their
mouth while they're sleep eating.
Speaker 3: I think they're involuntarily eating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so they're connecting over like, yeah, like a
big thing was crawling on me last night and whatever
they're talking about how miserable the night was. Man, I
would like, Oh, I wouldn't do well in a situation
like that. How would you guys do?
Speaker 1: Uh? Probably not great?
Speaker 3: But I mean I've gone cowboy camping before. But cowboy
camping you are still within your sleeping bag, yeah, and
often have a tarp over the sleeping bag so the
dude doesn't get all.
Speaker 2: Over you, but maybe like a fire next to you, not.
Speaker 3: Even necessarily that, but it's it's still just like you.
You are still somewhat protected from the elements and the things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, they're about to go back to their respective camps.
But of course it's never that easy because there's only
one package of supplies, only one of them gets it,
and between the two of them they have to make
a deal. One of them gets the supplies but loses
their vote. The other one does not get the supplies
but gains a vote. And so now.
Speaker 3: Does that vote have to be played the next time
they are in the thing? And do they only lose
the vote for that next that next voting, yes? Or
is it just they lose the vote until they say
you have I think this is.
Speaker 2: Just the one vote they lose, but sometimes it is
like sometimes it's you know, you lose the next three,
or you lose it until you find this thing, so
it could take So the.
Speaker 3: One gets the extra vote, does that extra vote have
to be played in the next game or can it
or in the next episode or does it happen it
can whenever they want they have an extra vote.
Speaker 2: There's usually also like a final five, you know, there's
some limitation, but usually yeah, you can.
Speaker 3: Kind of like an idol where it can be played
at any point in time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't have to tell people about it.
You can keep it totally secret.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and usually lose your vote vote is I think
they just will tell you, like you lost your vote
for the next tribal council, that means your next tribal council. Yeah,
so like if your team doesn't go to the next
tribal council.
Speaker 3: If your team doesn't go to tribal council at all
until the merge, then it's then you may.
Speaker 1: You may just lose your vote at that point. Yeah,
just that way.
Speaker 3: So then potentially if you if you lose a vote
right now and then your team never goes to tribal
council and makes it to the merge, do you then
lose a vote after the merge?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or sure if we've seen that happen, but I would
assume that that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay, interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it's until your next tribal council.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Usually, like Tim said, we don't know, We've never seen
it play out that far. But just whenever your next
tribal council is it could be two episodes from now,
three episodes from now, five episodes from now. That's one
it will take effect.
Speaker 3: Oh yep.
Speaker 2: So Ozzie and Q have a short negotiation, but Q
just ultimately takes it. He lets Ozzie take the extra vote.
Q takes the supplies.
Speaker 3: What would you guys do?
Speaker 2: I would have probably fought for the extra vote also
like Ozzie did, because yeah, you're you're playing for yourself. Man,
the extra vote means a lot.
Speaker 3: H Well, I mean, I guess I can kind of
see how an extra vote means a lot. But I
also can understand how having a more full stomach and
all of that would make me play better.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, so they both get back to their camps.
Q tells the whole camp about all the journey they had. Obviously,
he tells the exact story that is all true. The
only thing he leaves off is that he lost his vote,
but he does tell that to Kyle. He pulls Kyle
aside and tells him privately, and Carl, this is another
thing about survivor, and survivor. Information is your currency. Information
is how you prove your loyalty. It's how you prove
you're worth in the game. Any information that you have
that nobody else has that's worth something. And so Q
telling this to Kyle means, Kyle, I trust you, Kyler,
want to work with you.
Speaker 1: Kyle.
Speaker 2: Nobody else knows this thing, and so now we are
bonded over the knowing of this one thing. So Qu's
in it to win it with Kyle here at this time.
Speaker 3: Could if if because Kyle now knows that Q has
lost his vote, Let's say Kyle gets they go to
tribal council in the same episode or in the next episode, whatever,
could Q then call him out in tribal council, like
if Q got voted off, be like, well, I got
voted off. It's because this motherfucker doesn't have an extra
vote or doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have a vote. Yeah you can, Yeah, you can call
people out on your way out the door. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Does that happen often?
Speaker 1: It's happened.
Speaker 2: It's happened. I wouldn't say often often, it's not the
right word, but it does happen. Yep. All right. This
is where we get Christian going around and collecting glasses
of all of the players to see if he can
make fire. This was cool, This was very cool. He
says his glasses won't work. They're the wrong They're not
they're convex instead of concave. So he's got to get
other glasses and uh, yeah, just through a series of
trial and error and reflecting these glasses of each other.
Sure enough, this motherfucker gets fired.
Speaker 3: This is the awkward conversation going on behind you.
Speaker 2: Yes, there it is Jenny. Oh Aubrey. She's so pretty.
Look at her. Not the prettiest face she's ever made
in the line, but you know she's still so pretty. Sure,
I'm into Aubrey, man. She's my type of girl.
Speaker 3: She kind of looks like your ex wife.
Speaker 2: I have type. I have a type. I like the
pale skin, I like the dark hair.
Speaker 3: Like beyond the pale skin and dark hair, she kind
of looks like she's.
Speaker 2: Got those glasses on Aubrey. Do you think he can
make I don't know. I've never tried. I used to
do it a lot with a magnifying glass when I
was a Kid's nice I could do it.
Speaker 1: That's what I was watching this. I'm like, I wonder, like,
I don't know. I didn't even bother taking my glasses
off the look. I don't even know if they'd be
like the right kind. He's looking forward to.
Speaker 3: See if he needed near side glasses, not far side glasses.
Speaker 2: Correct, he needed far sided glasses. I think I think
his are near sided glasses. I think I remember what
he said.
Speaker 3: Honestly regardless, it was cool.
Speaker 2: It was really it was really cool to watch. Yes,
it was a.
Speaker 1: Team that doesn't have flint, like this is like, oh ship,
we did it. We didn't even need it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well to see that, but then to also like
to not have to have them like go and grab
two sticks and like, yeah, do the This was it
was cool. I'm like, I was, I was, I was.
I think it's very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very cool. And Christian then has a
great commentary that he says like I've never done that.
I've never like researched this. I just tried it and
it worked and uh and talk about his kid. Yep,
he says, I have a new son at home. Nobody
else on the island knows it, but someday my son
will see this. And you can tell when he said
that it like it like it like hit him in
a way that it probably would have helped me if
I if I said that. So, I mean I liked
this moment a lot.
Speaker 3: No, I in all as like I normally don't give
a shit if they're talking about the kids, but in
this minute, it did like I was like, Okay, I
see it. I could see how this would really help
you in a game like this, Like when people talk
about their kids in the challenge, I'm like, don't don't
tell me that your kid is your true north and
the challenge. You are here because you want to be
an ass, and you want to make an ass of yourself,
and you want a drink and you want to have
fun and party with your friends for a month. That's
why you're here. And you want the potential of winning money,
but you're probably not going to whereas in this game,
I can see how that really would be something that
would like bolster you and help you truly get through
a game where you are stripped of everything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yep, totally. So we see Devin's approaching Sire
and he tells her straight up like, hey, Jenna's gunning
for you. And I'm surprised that Devn's is the first
one to tell her this, because Jenna's gone around the
camp and told every single person she wants Sire out,
but Devon's is the first one to bring it to
Surrey herself.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it was a little bit of TV
magic of like, did this happen sooner than we are
being shown it happened because right now we're being shown
that it happened on like the second day that they're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, could have been. It's hard hard to tell.
But I like even seeing Devon's with SuRie. I think
these two get along too. I mean it's just, yeah,
it's cool with watching these people work together. So we
see Ozzie then telling SuRie about his extra vote. So
here we are, Carlyn. This is the currency survivor currency exchange.
And you can see Siri is fucking bathing in information.
Everybody's coming to her and telling your shit about Jenna
and now about this extra vote. So soreis in a
good place. Purple does this cool fashion show reminds me
of the challenge, this little fashion show, weird weird moment.
Speaker 3: Wearing wearing the buff as a shirt underneath his jacket
was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was cue. Yeah, and you also
had his weird little qu skirt with his hoodie in
the front tied around his waist. That's a super weird guy.
Speaker 3: At one point in time, also a different team, but
Coach was doing yoga on the beach in jeans.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's his that's his thing. That's what
he always does.
Speaker 3: Yes, yoga. I'm just thinking, like, you are, doing yoga
on the beach is one thing. Doing yoga and beach
and in jeans is another thing. Doing yoga on the
beach in sand, in jeans.
Speaker 2: While calling yourself the dragons Layer, like that.
Speaker 3: Just sounds like uncomfy on top of uncomfy.
Speaker 1: Yes, the same time, Mike and Jonathan were doing it.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah are they?
Speaker 3: But I just I got so, I got so stuck.
Speaker 1: On Jonathan was looking ripped and then there's fucking Mike
next to him, who was looking ripped coaching. We both
like Jonathan.
Speaker 2: I like Jonathan, but he's dumb. I don't think he's
gonna win. I'm not really rooting for him.
Speaker 1: He's trying to be strategic this time on Yeah it's failing.
Speaker 3: I could think, does he know what his bumbstrategic?
Speaker 2: No, he's so dumb.
Speaker 1: So I got a story. This is we're not even
really in this. But the season Jonathan was on Zion
Survivor with you guys talking about I don't know, we
were talking about it and Tim was just going on
and on because there's this other guy on that season
named Daniel. Tim hated them and he separated his shoulder
and like the first first like the beach Challenge, like
the first show up, but it wasn't bad enough where
he kept competing, but he would try to do stuff
with one arm or whatever. And so for like three episodes,
Tim's like, I fucking hate Dan, Daniel's a piece of ship.
And then he's like, and he's so fucking pretentious. He's
using his full name. Daniel should just be like Dan.
And then I was like, but Tim Jonathan's using his
full name too, and he's like, He's sat there for
a second and he's like a ship. You're right. I
hate Daniel though, but.
Speaker 2: I also don't like Willius Jonathan either. I don't like
the full I don't like full name people.
Speaker 3: You've said that before, because I've actually brought. I have
a friend here whose name is Daniel, and he goes
by Daniel.
Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 3: And also another friend in our same friend group whose
name is Michael, who goes by Michael. I would never
know who goes by Thomas.
Speaker 2: Nope, Carlin, I can't hang with those people. And if
they insist on making me called exactly exactly, if I'm
gonna call them Daniel, he's gonna call me Timothy for sure,
for sure, Yes that's true. All right. This is also
when we get Colby and riz Good bonding. I fucking
love the Colby and Ris Good thing. Uh riz Good
talks about his dad being forty seven years old. I
had a weird fucking crisis in that moment. Jesus Christ,
I'm not forty nine. How dare you, Carlin? How dare you?
We'll feel be forty seven in a couple months. I'm
way after, way after wolfy.
Speaker 3: Yep, a whole like forty six days or something.
Speaker 2: Or something like that. Longer than that, it's like seventy
days or something long enough. But yeah, I had a
moment here, man, because yeah, Colby played this game when
he was twenty five, and now we have a twenty
five year old saying Colby, you remind me of my
fucking father. Bizarre, so weird, and I think Colby like
was touched by that. He like like Colby was cool
with that. But man, weird for me to watch this.
All right. Here we are back at the Teal beach.
This is Coach doing his his thing on the beach.
Says you were talking about his yoga thing, Carlyn with
Mike and Jonathan Jonathan speaking of people throwing out names
really early, Jonathan throws out D's name really early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found this kind of strange.
Speaker 1: What about D? And they're like D who He's like,
D's nuts.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for something to make a D's nuts joked, funny,
we should vote D. Oh you mean D's nuts. We
see Jonathan also he's hustling man. He goes and approaches
coach and Chrissy with his plan. Also, so yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Was he was throwing out D's name to like try
to be strategic. But the guy guy too early. You try,
You're in the wrong game.
Speaker 2: But I think targeting winners is a good move. I
think when it like, yeah, you shouldn't have this conversation
until you know you're going to tribal, But throwing out
a winner's name is actually a good move, Like you
don't want to see these people win twice, Like she's
already won.
Speaker 3: And she's won recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get her out. So I don't think it's
a bad name to throw out, but bad time to
throw it out. D for her part, we see her
connecting with Tiffany and Camilla, so it seems like those
three are going to be kind of working together, but
obviously three is less than eight, so they episode. I
think they're gonna be in trouble because there's only three
of them on a team of eight, so I think
they're going to be targeting. But we'll see. And with
that on one of the Immunity Challenge.
Speaker 3: Shall we get to today's Immunity Challenge?
Speaker 2: Yes we should, Jeff, uh Yeah, similar game. There's like
obstacles and then a puzzle at the end. The only
real notes that I have here is that SuRie is
struggling with the ball launching part. If you've watched three
on these challenges, you see her struggle with a lot
of things. Jeff is obviously like cheering for her. She
obviously gets the job done every time, but it takes
her a long time, including this time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was It was very obvious that she was
the anchor on this team, like she was the reason
why this team did not which.
Speaker 1: Win, or she struggles with stuff like this, Why would
you put her on that?
Speaker 2: That seemed weird too, And also.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very strange.
Speaker 2: They explain these rules ahead of time. We don't always
know the full rules, but sometimes they can swap in players.
So if you throw the ball a bunch of times
you can't get it, you can swap in another player.
Speaker 3: This why was she doing it to begin with? Like,
it just seems like you would coach chewing it on
one of the other on the other team, like he
did it in like two tries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put her on something you have another player with,
like them trying to uncorkscrew the keys or some Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean they did not have to have any sort
of ability to be able to do that one yep. Yeah,
it felt strange that they had her doing that.
Speaker 2: Yep. So that was a stand up moment. The other
stand up moment in this, obviously was Kyle's injury.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Pausing for a medical thing was I was surprised by that.
I did not expect that to happen because we have
never seen that happen in the Challenge.
Speaker 2: No, it happens more often in Survivor than the Challenge,
for sure, But yes, maybe we.
Speaker 3: Have seen it happen, but like for the most part,
like they don't pause a whole game when you're in
the middle of like running up and down an obstacle course, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was sort of an unusual step that. Yeah,
Jeff says, pause, everybody stop, and sure enough, everybody stops
exactly where they are. They bring in medical, they check
out Kyle, and medical at the time says like, well,
we don't know, this could be a sprain or it
could be a fracture. We don't know what it is.
And Kyle says, well, we're gonna get me up that
fucking ramp somehow, so just like, let's keep playing.
Speaker 1: So they fucking jump. Though. As soon as I saw it,
I was like, oh my god when he started limping, yeah,
and I was like, yeah, he fucked something up bad.
Speaker 2: Yep. And we didn't see this on the show, but
I read about it in social media. Apparently the full
story of what happened was that Kyle was at the top,
but Colby was the remaining dude to the bottom. Colby
couldn't make it up by himself. Kyle went down, got
Colby up the thing, and then injured himself the second time. Yes,
so we didn't see that little part with Colby in
the middle, but that's apparently the chain of events here, gotcha.
And sure enough Q hops down and basically just throws
Kyle up to the top with one leg and they
end up finishing the puzzle. But obviously Kyle's worse for
wear and not doing so good, so he finally gets
her thing, and so all three of them are up
doing the puzzle, but Teal the Teal team wins it. Yeah, yep,
And obviously Purple is second and Orange is the one
not getting immunity. They're going to tribal council.
Speaker 3: That night on Survivor.
Speaker 2: That is how you do it on Survivor. Uh So
that's it for this game. I don't know about you, guys,
the games are the least interesting part to me, and Survivor.
I'm happy to just breeze right through the games because
the politics talk are way more interesting to me. Do
you guys feel that way?
Speaker 3: I mean, this is my first episode, so yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think like the Challenge, I mean, I guess
sort of like the Challenge on MTV, it's like only
the winners matter, you know, It's like everything that happens
during the game, it's who gives a shit, It's really.
Speaker 3: Just who I was kind of like for this one,
it was the first and second place mattered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Because you're just trying to pick which team is going
to tribal counts. Yeah, so when we get to the merge,
then they'll be usually just one.
Speaker 2: Winnerty, and those are the Then the games become more important,
and then you do see deals being made during the game,
like if I let you win, you got to make
me safe or you know whatever. Yeah, those are more interesting. Okay,
so we're back at the losers camp and Christian takes
a moment to try to inspire his team. Don't you know,
you don't dwell on the loss, just say like what
we can do better, and hey, guys, let's not do
let's not lose again, you know, trying to rally the
trips whatever. Joe does have those, Yeah, he's got yes, yes,
Joe's very anxious feeling to me, uh man, this these
all these scenes made me so sad because it just
it just like constantly showed Sire looking like an outcast
from her tribe, like they're all talking and she's just
sort of in the back like, sorry, I fucked this
up for you guys. Very clearly it's Serrie's fault. They lost.
Everyone knows it, including Sirie, and so she's feeling down
man like, and I would be too. This is a bad,
bad moment for her, But some people are jumping on it,
like Jenna and Savannah. They are pitching Surre like crazy
because she just lost this thing. This is the time
to pitch SERI. Frankly, Yes, I just think Jenna fucked
up by doing it too early. She already had been behind,
you know, against her.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If Jenna had held off and not pitched Suri
until now, yeah, I think it would have been Suri fully.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think it would have been a.
Speaker 3: Very legit case for Suri being the one to be
voted in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Jenna, Jenna, yes, went too hard too
early and kind of turned people against her before the
Meedity Challenge even happened. And now really they're just sort
of justifying it. We even see Ozzie say it out right, like, hey,
it wasn't her best day, but she can she can win.
We can find a place for her in the next challenge, like, yeah,
there are other.
Speaker 3: Things that you can do. These challenges do. Like you
guys said it in the last episode, like they they
they are equalizer challenges in a way that the challenge
hasn't figured out how to do equalizer challenges.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, these are legitimately anybody can win them. Yeah yeah,
so uh, it seems like people are kind of solidifying.
It's either going to be Serri or it's gonna be Jenna.
Speaker 3: I loved watching I think it was Emily and Christian
Emily and somebody was talking about maybe we should do
Ausie that I was. I was dying at that.
Speaker 2: That's exactly where we are right here, Carlin, and I
have a note for here too, because I also love
this part. This is where Emily is like having a
good time with this, like she's in Chaosmo. She's like,
what if it's Ozzie? And you could tell how excited
she Wasn't the idea of it.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't think that was was necessarily a
bad idea.
Speaker 2: I didn't think so, because really the.
Speaker 3: Entire first day, Yeah, yep, you've got to break up
an alliance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a good move. I wish Emily
would have would have pushed it a little bit harder.
I wonder if she could have gotten some people on
her side, because I thought that was a good idea. Carlin,
tell me if I'm nuts. In that scene that we
were just talking about was Emily looking at Devn's with
with some fuck me eyes. I was thinking google eyes
at Devons.
Speaker 3: I was watching this in foiling glass at the same time.
I don't I didn't actually notice.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I caught some googly eyes. I caught some I
caught some things. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see if
there's something there. I think Devons is married anyway. Okay,
so they're talking, Emily throws out Ozzy, Yes, love this part.
Uh Savannah. At this point, Stone Serena go home. And
this is we get Christian just being incredibly logical with
I forget who else was there when he was talking,
but he basically says, guys, listen, Jenna's sort of the
easy thing. We can all vote out Jenna and then
Jenna's gone, and we can still be a happy and
united tribe. If we vote out Ozzie or Serri or whatever,
we're gonna come back with pissed off people, and the
politics in this situation are going to get much much harder.
And frankly, I think that's the conversation that tipped everybody
to Jenna.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at the moment he said that, I
was like, yeah, fair, Like for me personally wanting a
little bit of chaos, it's like I wouldn't have been
upset by that, but for their games, yeah, they made
it still so early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're four weeks away from the merge
or whatever, five weeks, so yeah, yeah, you just gotta
kind of, yeah, make an easy choice, maybe all right
with that one. A tribal council.
Speaker 1: Behind you, or some torches.
Speaker 2: Everybody, grab a torch, dip it in and get fired.
That's right, dip it in and get fired.
Speaker 1: So another thing to represents your life in this game.
Speaker 2: I love it, dude. This is like some stupid shit.
But they've been doing this in season one. It hasn't changed.
It's consistent. I love it.
Speaker 3: Question At the end of the tribal council, he says,
grab your torches and head out. Does that mean that
even though they're a team that doesn't have fire, they
get to bring fire back to their team.
Speaker 2: In theory, but the toy, I don't think the torch
is last that long. It's teams have done that though
it's for it's for.
Speaker 1: The shot, because I don't know if they did it
in this one. But later one you'll see when they
leave Tribal Council, there'll be a big wide aerial shot
of them walking down the beach with their torches lit
as the you know, sort of like not the credits roll,
but just like but as like the final shot. But
then like later when because they'll take them back to camp.
But then later you'll see in later episodes, if you
have to go back to Tribal Council, their torches are
already there, so they have to grab it and take
it with UK. Usually it's lit when they come back
to Tribal Council already. They don't light it every time
from what I remember, so it's some production thing that
they light it as they walk down the beach towards
Tribal Council.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but they do have the torches at camp.
Sometimes you'll even see them like leaned up against the tree.
And I can remember at least one season where they
were able to do that kind they brought fire back
from tribal and were able to fire at camp when
they didn't have a fire before. It's been forever ago
that that happened. I can't remember even what season all right,
So Tribal council. I don't ever take votes or take
notes during tribal council because it's all just sort of
like Jeff is asking everybody sort of individually how they're
playing the game, what's different, what's unique, But everybody talks
in code, and because you don't want to reveal too
much about your game, so I don't pay much attention
in the trible I don't really give a shit about
this stuff. I don't feel like stuff changes much during
tribal until we have Carlin. What's called tribal, you know whatever.
Until we have Karlin was called a live tribal. This
is not a live tribal. No, it's more like, you know,
everybody's lined up and everybody seems calm, like what happens there,
But then JE ask a question that somebody answers in
a way that another person gets uncomfortable, and so they
start looking around, start whispering in somebody's ear, and then
that person whispers into somebody else's ear, and then all
of a sudden, everybody's whispering, and then everybody's standing up,
and everybody's kind of going into corners and talking amongst themselves.
And it's called a live tribal and it's just really
cool to see how these groups isolate and people bouncing
between these groups and deciding who to vote for. I
feel like the counsel the live tribles, this is not okay.
Speaker 3: In this one was pretty obvious they had already made
their decisions before they got their type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: From what I've seen before, this seemed like a very
normal first episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trible. Yeah. I think even Jenna knew going in here.
She didn't say it, but I think she. I think
she knew it was gonna be her anyway. It was
unanimous other than Jenna, who voted for Suri. Obviously, everybody
else voted Jenna. So Jenna goes home.
Speaker 3: Have there ever been surprise idols? Like someone who plays
an idol that the audience doesn't know that person.
Speaker 2: Has no audience always knows, but like, it's definitely happened
that somebody plays it an idol nobody else knew about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could see how it would be
surprised everybody there. I was just thinking, like, has somebody
found an idol that they didn't let anybody know that
they found and then did and then they showed they
did the thing the producers did, the thing that Wolfie
loves the absolute most out of anything ever, like a
flashback flashback of them finding the idol.
Speaker 2: I can't read all the time that they did that.
I don't want to say it's never happened, but I
can't recall the.
Speaker 1: Time something interesting has happened. Carling. You'll notice the bags
that they all bring with them. I'll bring them backpack.
Speaker 3: I was gonna wait until the very end and then
ask what they are allowed to bring. But we can
talk about now.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I don't even It's usually just whatever clothes
they had on when they got to the beach. Everybody
brings their bag with them for the most part. Sometimes
there's surprise tribal councils, like some weird thing has happened.
But if you look at those bags, there's beads on them.
There has been seasons where survivors have made fake idols
and then giving them to other players, and that person
thought they were safe because they'd be like, oh, don't worry,
I have an idol, and then they'll give it to them.
And that's the person everybody's targeting. And so we'll go
up and Jeff will be like, does anybody have a
hidden the munity idol to Jeff. He'll go up and
then he'll give it to Jeff and Jeff will look
at it and he'll be like, this is not a
hidden immune of the idol. And that person's like what
And then turns out they got voted. They got blindsided
and completely voted out. I love a fake idol has
happened on an episode. Yeah, and I love it just
a holy shit.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: We're not going to see that this season, but I
would love.
Speaker 2: That probably, I hope we do. Last season, what we
saw was Riz God. So Riz Good had a real
idol and he'd had one for like four or five weeks,
and everybody kind of knew that he had one, but
this other woman had I can't remember who had had
the other one, but somebody else had an idol, and
the idea was to flush her idol. So they wanted
to make her play her idol, and so Riz God
made his own fake idol that he's like, I'm going
to play my fake one at tribal, and that's going
to encourage her to play her real one, because then
she's going to be scared because I played my fake one. Anyway,
The way it worked out is that he didn't need
to play an idol at all, but he still played
the fake one just to kind of fuck around, and
it made everybody sort of doubt, like, wait, what the
fuck he said he had a real idol, but he
presented a fake one, Like what happened with that whole thing?
And it did like it added this weird layer of
like distrust and like and that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of fun. There was jump sorry, yeah that behind you.
Yeah it did not look yeah, look fun, but.
Speaker 2: It was cool. It's like a way to kind of like, yeah,
it's like these real clever things that you get in
people's heads. You kind of fuck around and you kind
of you just muddy the waters enough that it confuses people.
It's kind of the coolest strategy.
Speaker 1: There's some interesting advantages in this game too, Like there's
some that you can play, Like you can play an
advantage to Jeff. Yeah, and so you can ask another
player if they have an advantage or him in the
Immunity idol. Here the rules of this advantage. They have
to tell you if they have it, and if they do,
you can take it from them. Now, some players have
gotten wind of this because someone unpopular had it and
thought they were in a big alliance. It turns out
they weren't, and the other people have told them they're
going to play it on you to try to take
your idol. So what they'll do is they'll give their
idol to someone else, and that person's like, I'll give
it back to you after tribal. So then the person
plays this, do you have an advantage or a hind
the media idol? And they're like no, and they're like
what the fuck? And it completely like throws off their
entire strategy, and it's just it's interesting, the twist it
can happen.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then, since this season is in the hands
of the fans and I'm using quotation marks for the
people who were not watching this, which is everybody, I
kind of hope that happens. Then I would like to
see some really ridiculous shit happen.
Speaker 2: We're going to see something ridiculous, Like guaranteed, I'd say
there's one or two moments like that per season where like, okaying,
just fucking line up in the perfect way that somebody
gets super fucked. It's gonna be great. Whenever happens. It's great, okay,
all right, So Jenna she leaves. She seems a little
but hurt, but she says good luck to everybody. That's cool.
Speaker 3: Is it a thing for them to all stand? She
made a comment about that.
Speaker 1: Not all not usually.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she took that as a sign of respectors,
and maybe it was meant to be like we like you,
actually we're not like, we don't like doing this.
Speaker 3: I feel like they were all standing to give her
a hug, and then she just wandered away.
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what it was. I think
they were they were hoping to leave with a friendly hug,
make amends. I don't think she was in that place,
was pissed.
Speaker 1: They all hugged before the person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was not happy. So is she in the
jury now or is she no going home?
Speaker 1: Juri's n until after the merch Okay.
Speaker 2: Yep, and sometimes that's different because this is a returning season.
But he hasn't said anything, so I think she's just
going home.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Because we were talking about there might
be a like a redemption house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a yeah, yep, but it doesn't seem like that.
We didn't see it, so we get Genevieve and Stephanie
talking and they're saying that they don't even know if
there's idols in play this season. I guess that's another
thing left to the hands of the fans, So we
don't know if there's even going to be idols that
exist this season. But Genevieve and steph are kind of
looking for one as they're kind of wandering on the jungle,
and Genevieve finds one right as Rizcott is walking up,
and so they like sneak into the backpack they wander off.
It turns out that this advantage is what's called a
boomerang idol. We've never seen this played before. This is
kind of cool, presented by Billie Eilish cool. Don't care
about that at all. Does she have a song named Boomerang?
Is that why this is like an after her or something?
No idea, no relevance to the boomerang thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe she's just a super fan.
Speaker 2: I do like her though, I do too, and the
boomerang idol is kind of cool. It means that you
can give your idol to somebody else on another tribe,
anybody you want that is their to do with as
they please. Under certain rules. We'll find out those rules later.
But if that person goes home holding the idol, Genevieve
gets that idol back.
Speaker 3: Uh. Google says that Billie Eilish is a noted Survivor
super fan oh and has expressed interest in competing in
the show, So that was probably her way of their
way of letting her nice see a part of the
show without actually letting her compete in it.
Speaker 2: That's cool, that's cool. I like this boomerng. I think
it's a good idea, and I like it when you
can send shit to other tribes.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people and her song TV
I guess that's the name of one of her songs
is about Survivor.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, nice right, There are a lot of people
that sometimes we'll go home with idols and one thing
we did not touch on. We're explaining the rules to
your Carlin. Usually if someone plays an idol, or if
someone goes home and they have an idol, that idol
then will go back back into play. If your travel
council someone plays an idol, usually the next day a
lot of people are going on idol hunts because they're like,
it's got to be back out here somewhere yep.
Speaker 3: So they can't, like, if they don't use their idol
and they get voted out, they can't just then gift
it to someone. It goes back back into the.
Speaker 1: Unless some weird specific advantage like the Boomerang idol is playing.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, a typical idol. Yeah, that was just gone.
Speaker 1: They were doing those coins for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fire tokens, fire.
Speaker 1: Tokens for that one season where if you got voted
out you could give your tokens to someone else all
your way out and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was like an currency. Yeah, that was
just a one season thing, gotcha, all right. So Genevieve
decides to send it to Ozzie, and that is because
Ozzi has already gone home with an idol in his
pocket before they figure he might do it again. Good bet,
because Ozzy is dumb as shit and super confident, so
I don't think he would play an idol even if
he had one. So I think he's a good bet.
I think he was probably the best person they could
have sent it to him.
Speaker 3: Well, And I mean, it seems like people are going
to start gunning for him pretty soon, so it may
happen sooner rather than later, yes, being young, and could
he if he has the idol and makes it through
the merge and she also makes it through the merge,
and then he goes home after the merge with the idol? Still,
could it go back to where then? I think happened
at any point in time it.
Speaker 2: Said till final five. So I think I believe. I
believe if he's out before the five, she'll get He.
Speaker 3: Wasn't really sure what that meant, so good to.
Speaker 2: Uh. So we're back at Ozzie's camp. He's playing his
provider game. We've seen him every time he plays the game.
This is what he does. He's the provider. He goes out,
he goes fishing. He's really good at fishing. He's good
at starting fires, he's good at collecting papayas and fruit
and shit like that. And so that's what he's doing,
proving his value to the team doing that. But Devin's
basically says, hey, that's an old survivor thing. That's what
that used to matter. It does not matter any more.
We don't give a ship. If you're providing for us,
we're going to vote. You're fucking asked out of here,
which I like Devin's taking up some that new tactic here.
But this is where we find Ozzie find the idol,
He sees it in his pack, he sneaks away to
read it. We learned this idol on his end does
have some stipulations that a normal idol does not. In
this case, he cannot give the idol away. Like Wolfe
said before, Carlin, you can usually give your idol to
whoever you want. Ozzi cannot do that, and he.
Speaker 1: Cannot, and yeah, I don't think we told you this either.
You can play a regular idol, you can play for
someone else.
Speaker 2: Yes, So.
Speaker 1: You could go up, like we're all voting. I could
go up and be like, I am playing this idol
for Carlin.
Speaker 2: Like if we're in an alliance and I'm in trouble,
but you need me as a number, and you have
this in this.
Speaker 3: Most recent vote, someone else could have played it for
Serie and kept her safe regardless of how the votes went.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, exactly, Yes, But then we said this idol
has specific rules that he, yeah, can only play it
for himself.
Speaker 3: Yep, so a little yeah, there's a much higher chance
that he's going to just hang on to it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Yeah, he's got to play it for himself
or he's going to go home with it in his pocket. Yeah,
that's his only option.
Speaker 3: And then if he if he regardless of the fact
that this is a has special stimulations to it, if
you have an idol in your pocket and you get
voted out, do you then have to tell people, like,
tell that everybody that you had an idol? Or it
just kind of.
Speaker 2: Nobody People usually know. People usually know, but you don't
have to tell people, Okay, but at least somebody will
know usually kah. All right, we get another journey long
episode to man A lot happened this time we get
another journey. In this case, every tribe has to send
a person off from this journey. Nobody really wants to go,
so every tribe has their own method of figuring out
who goes. But in the end, Mike White goes, Savannah
and Colby they all go to this separate journey. Let's
see the gossip back on the beach, Cegasi and the
Oh they're talking.
Speaker 3: They're talking on the beach. The three of them talk
on the beach about what happened between Coach Colby and
q Q. Yes for the key to get the supplies.
Speaker 2: Yep. And this is all part of that information currency, right,
So everyone has their own story and they all brought
that back to their own camps. Now they are comparing
stories to see like what did they keep secret? What
don't we know well?
Speaker 3: And it sounds like it sounds like uh, it sounds
like uh, Coach basically told what happened and the other
two skewed it in the favor of we made a
deal and he stepped us in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is most This is a lot of talking
shit about coach. But Mike is for his part, he's
just like I kind of don't give a shit, Like
who cares that coach did that? I don't feel like
that's the sound of like Mike treats it the same
way I am, like, Well, on.
Speaker 3: Top of that, it's like this was the very first day,
like we wanted to get fucking supplies. Like he's not
just playing for himself at that point in time, He's
playing for all of us, and if he comes back
and has nothing, we are much more likely to vote
him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Mike fris part was probably like,
good fuck you, Ozzie. He we get a pot good
for him. Yeah. So yeah, so they have a little
chat session on the beach. But weirdly enough, UH, three
come to this island, but only two can play the game.
So one of these people came here for nothing.
Speaker 3: I found that weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did too. And they again left it up
to that Yeah they yeah, they don't, but they left
it up to the three players to decide who played,
and they drew Rocks. Mike lost, so Mike doesn't get
to play. He just goes back to campus if nothing
ever happened, and uh Coach and Savannah they end up
having to play this.
Speaker 1: Game very jingle like, yeah, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like reverse Djenga. You're building a big column.
Speaker 3: I liked it though, I thought it was kind of
like it was it was neat that the pieces were
all wonky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a cool little game, and it was
it was cool to see uh Colby play. Colby on
his season season number two was like this dominant superman guy,
Like he won so many immunity challenge he was good
at everything. Now this guy's in his fifties and he
is like not so good at things. He's deaf in
an air and he can't see very well. And he's not.
He's like shaky. He's like shaky on this tower. So
it's weird to see him at this point. But yeah,
Colby loses, uh kind of shockingly against Savannah. And as
far as Colby knows, the only the like the the
consequence of winning or losing. The winner gets to keep
their vote, the loser loses their vote. That's all Colby knows,
and that's all Savannah knows at this point too. But
Savannah finds out later that she gets a secret reward.
It's a block of vote, so she can block any vote.
Speaker 3: Okay, explain that to me.
Speaker 2: You block a vote, so once you know who's on
the other alliance, No, you can just block block one vote.
So if I know Wolfe is going to vote for
for you, Carlin, but you're you're in my allowance, in
my alliance, and I would there are.
Speaker 3: Four other people that are also going to vote for me, then,
but you also have three people on your side that
are going to.
Speaker 2: Vote for someone else, I could say.
Speaker 3: So it's literally blocking a single vote.
Speaker 2: One single vote, and you have to decide the vote
of the player you're blocking before you block it. So
it's it's a hard it's a hard advantage to play.
Speaker 1: You have to know a lot of information beforehand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, effectively, but they kept the secret so they didn't
even tell Colby. They didn't tell this advantage before the
thing started. So really, at this point in the game,
Savannah is literally the only person knows that she has
this advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she does not have a good poker face.
She kind of doesn't like she should come up with
some sort of lie that like, I don't know what
I yeah, sorry continue, uh.
Speaker 2: No, we're back at camp. No, this is where we
are yeaes. Savannah's telling people about the challenge. She says
everything that happens exactly honestly, except for her extra advantage.
But everybody is sort of saying the same thing. It's like,
there's no fucking way you went off and did that
thing and got nothing. Yeah, Like you must have gotten something.
Speaker 3: What could she have said that would have given them? Like,
what sort of advantage could she have said that she
got that would have given them enough to make them
believe her but not be obvious that it was a lie.
Speaker 2: Man. I think at this point her best bet was
to just tell the truth. I can block of like
I can block a vote. Guys, that's that's my advantage
because it's a hard one to use it.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, And I mean, I guess now that you've
told me what the block of vote is, it does
seem like, yeah, just fucking tell them, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: There's no other advantage that you could like swap in.
She'd be like, oh, well I got this, which is
like a lower here advantage. So nobody really cares about
that one. Yea, all of them are equally as important,
like they all can be used for something pretty important.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I appreciate Sam wanting to keep the secret.
It's a good idea to keep it secret, but ultimately
it just it just stirs distrust in the tribe because
nobody believes her.
Speaker 3: Well, and I feel like telling everybody that you got
a block vote would also be a good cover of
like they could still be thinking like, Okay, well did
she actually get that, or does she get an immunity
or did she get you know, an extra vote, or
this one seems like the less of all of the advantages.
Speaker 2: Yep, totally, it is. It is. It's it's yeah, it's
one of the hardest to play.
Speaker 3: It's and I would precedence of like if some if
you go off on another one of these things and
you get an immunity idol, then well, you know, I
just went off on another one. They it was the
same kind of thing. We want a block vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, or she should have lied in said I
lost the game, so I lost my vote this round.
That would have been a better lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true. You know, anyway, what are they gonna do
ask Colby?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that would be after the merge anyway,
Like it's by then, it's like kind of too late
to matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even if they did ask him, then it
would just kind of be like the Okay, well are
you lying to me? Or is she lying to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, they might never trust the other history.
Speaker 1: Because then when they do the votes, people would probably
fount them up and be like I thought she said
she didn't have one. Yeah, she's a smart player. She
would be like someone had an extra vote, who was it?
And start trying to spin paranoia within the group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do feel like she doesn't have a
good enough poker face to come back and say that, though,
because you could tell that she was excited when she
got back yep, yep, for sure, and it was kind
of she kind of had that same look on her
face when she was telling them that she won last season,
like there was no way to really hide how she
felt about what was going on.
Speaker 2: Yep, we get Mike. He's back at his camp and
he talks to Coach and tells Coach that Ozzie said
that Coach is a piece of ship who stole that
fucking key from it.
Speaker 1: You're a little bit more of an exaggeration.
Speaker 2: Is that what I'm doing? But this due this works, this,
This throws coach into a tizzy. Man. Coach does not
like this. He does not like being accused of being
like dishonorable or cheating or whatever. Coaches like he's by this. Man.
He doesn't like this. And it's weird because I don't
think Mike brought it up like that. I don't think
he was doing it to fuck with coach. But uh,
that's what that's what it ended up being. Yeah, all right,
Colby is back at camp, talks about the game. He
admits he won and lost his Okay, yeah, so Colby
does just do the completely honest thing, like, here's exactly
what happened. I lost, So I lost the game, so
I lost my vote, and Q says, well, you have
no vote, so you're useless. You're an easy target, which
is true, it is.
Speaker 3: But it also I mean, it also kind of sets
a precedent of like, hey, I mean I told you
exactly what happened. I was truthful on this thing, like
building a little bit of rapport of being a truthful person.
So if he does tell a lie at a later date,
then they may be more inclined to believe it because
he's told the truth and told like the honest, bad
truth to begin with.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see how it plays out. And then
the last thing that happens this episode is obviously the
Purple Camp. They're sitting around talking about jack shit, bullshit stuff.
Jeff pulls up. When Jeff is at your camp, dude,
bad things.
Speaker 3: That's a bad showing up.
Speaker 1: Carlin knows this. If it's not like a scheduled vote
day or something and TJ shows up to the house,
you know something.
Speaker 3: Best, something's going down. Yeah, I wasn't. I was. I
was kind of I was on that fence of like,
I don't know if this is he's showing up to
give them some sort of sort of an advantage. Or whatnot.
But then when you watch this guy walking in behind
him carrying a case of ooh medicals.
Speaker 1: Here, Jeff very rarely shows up to camp. Okay, Jeff
almost never shows up to camp this early end of
the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's always to boot somebody out. Yeah, frankly,
I mean it's like the second Jeff shows up, it's like, oh,
Kyle's going hop that sucks.
Speaker 3: But again, I really appreciated this. I really appreciated us
being able to see what happened the exam that he
goes through, like show yes, he is indeed injured, yep,
show Jeff tell him like, look, man, yeah, we could
potentially let you play, but say it in a way
of like our lawyers are not gonna let you play
because it is a liability to us, where if you
end up with a limp or this doesn't heal right,
we are fucked. Like have him say it in a
way that kind of plays it like you don't want
to do that, Like let's kind of protect ourselves here.
I appreciated all of this, and I wish that this
sort of thing was brought to the challenge because, like
I said earlier, it drives me nuts. When you have
someone like that fucking Evan and the hernia. Yeah, like
he for weeks had this thing, and we knew what
was going on. We knew that that could be like
a seriously dangerous thing to have, and they just let
him continue at least that when we knew what was
going on. But like other ones where we've seen like
fucking Anissa's spraining ankles and all that sort of thing,
like we've seen them hurt themselves. It's like, did they
actually hurt themselves? What's going on here? Or just take
them away in an ambulance like no one ever knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Survivor has weird rules. It's unlike the Challenge
House and that, like there is the survival aspect of
this thing too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like if it was last season of the season
before they had somebody that was bit by a snake.
Oh and so they took like every precaution available, Like
they took the dude to the hospital. They got him
pump full of like ivs and shit sort of that
stink was harmless. He didn't he wasn't actually like bitten
with anything important. But you can't send him back to
the game. Yeah, because this dude has just had like
he like slept in hospital bed that night. He's had
like ivy, you know, he's like all like hydrated and shit.
And so now he's going back to the beach with
an advantage. He's like in better shape than the rest
of the crew. And so that's not fair either. And
so yes, there is some of this. I think they
would have let Kyle stay in except like, well, you
have to wear this boot. Well, we can't give you
a boot like that's that's yeah, that's against sort of
the survival as spirit of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and so I was also thinking one of the
might have been Genevieve, one of the two girls that
found the one of the two ladies that found the
idol had a bandage on her stomach, and it made
I don't know if she is or not, but it
made me think, what happened? Have they had players that
are diabetic come into this game? I don't know if
they do, how do they handle that? Because I have
a coworker right now who has gestational diabetes, so like
she's having to eat like every three hours and be
very specific with like how her blood sugger is at.
She's fucking hating it because it was awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about diabetes specifically, but they've definitely
kicked somebody off because they took a like a prescription
medication that, yeah, was not approved for the island. So
it's like, you're gonna, you're gonna you can't survive without
this med We can't give you the med like you're
fucking out there.
Speaker 1: There was one one of the ones I saw a
couple of handfull of seasons, maybe the one you're talking about,
where someone came on the show and they knew in
advance I'm not going to be able to take because
they were on lithium. This is exactly a big deal vacation,
and they weaned themselves off of it before they came
to do the show, and they didn't tell Survivor that
they had been taking it beforehand, and I think they
mentioned it to their other tribe mates or something at camp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: And producer saw it and the next day Jeff shows
up and he's like, look, you understand, but like we
can't have you playing under these circumstances because you should
be taking that medication. We just can't allow you to
keep going and withdrawing from lithium. It's another one of
those drugs. It's like you have a serious withdraw symptoms.
So even though maybe you did step off correctly to
lean off of it, but we just can't take that.
Speaker 3: We can't take that chance.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, he seemed like a nice guy from
whatever it was on the first episode, So I mean.
Speaker 3: That there was some real like he had to go
through some some serious breathing exercises before showing up on
that beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what's involved in that, but yeah,
that was the exact moment I was thinking of the
medicine that, yeah, you can't get it. Yeah, my understanding
is that women women get feminine products. But other than that,
like you don't get it, you don't get aspirin, you
don't get like yeah, you're you're you're stranded. Like this
is a survival show. That's an element of it. So interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just heard her bandage. Just made me think,
like can they have diabetics, like especially like diabetes type
one where you would like or I guess type two
as well. I don't really know where you'd have to
like take insulin or potentially like do glue horse coast
monitoring all that sort of like could they be there
and still have that with the fact that they're not
eating on a regular schedule and the things that they
are eating.
Speaker 2: Potentially, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Would expect because I can't imagine what how you would
be able to regulate your blood chef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep. So in this is Kyle takes it well. Man,
he takes on the chin. He's like, I get it.
It sucks, but I get it. It's his achilles tendon.
Seems like it's fucking detached or broken or something. I know,
it seems bad.
Speaker 1: I actually liked the test, like, yeah, I'm showing like
him kneeling on his knees and then yeah, showing on
his good leg like this is supposed to react and
he reacts on his other one and it barely moved
and stuff. So yeah, it's a bummer.
Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe, like I don't know, Tim, have
you looked it up at all on read it or whatnot?
On like whether what actually happened. Yeah, I mean it
could who knows. Maybe it was just like it wasn't
actually like ruptured necessarily, but it was you know, severely
bruised or something of it so maybe he was totally
fine without having to go through you know, surgery or whatnot.
But yeah, you're Achilles Ston is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I liked I mean this dude, like he
took it as well as you could expect a guy
to take it. He's just like, this fucking sucks, but
I understand. Yeah, he fought it for a second. He's like,
I want to say, in what do I stay in?
Like what's the worst case scenario? Like he you know,
I don't know. I just Kyle is a very likable dude.
I can see why he won a season. So I'm
not saying he's gone. He's a winner, so like, let's
get him out of there. But I like him and
I'm gonna miss in and yeah he can handle this one.
Speaker 1: Q was bummed out because that was like his main
guy and it's like, oh fuck, yeah, now I don't
have a vote and the main guy I was hanging
out with is gone.
Speaker 2: So yeah that's that's how you still safe. So yeah, yeah,
there's that. Yep, So goodbye Kyle. He did seem like
a lynchpin of that alliance, so I could do wonder
like is the Allian's gonna stick together without Kyle or
is the alliance gonna fracture? I guess we'll see.
Speaker 1: I was kind of bummed we did get the uh
this season on Survivor, they didn't show a lot of
like drama or anything sort of unfolding. It was a
lot of like people competing so interested to see if
anything super exciting.
Speaker 3: It started and I didn't quite I didn't realize what
was going on, and then as soon as I realized
said it was the next week. I was like, no, no, no, no,
just turned it off.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, though, Carlin, let's go over the the
public League, because you're fucking rocking it again knowing nothing.
How the fuck did you get fucking second place? I
don't know nothing.
Speaker 3: I saw that and was blown.
Speaker 2: I'm used to you being in the top five on
Challenge because I'm like, as she's watching the better you know,
she's like knows the character she's in the game, Like,
of course she's gonna get it. You don't know fucking
anything on this How did you know you're inca some ship?
Speaker 3: My yeah, I'm in second right now. My strategy was literally,
I that's not what I wanted to do. I picked
Siri because when we last episode, when we picked our
people for who we think is going to go to
the end, who's gonna win, Sirie was the one that
I just happened to throw out. I picked Coach because
I have my girlfriend Neelie, who I shouted out last week.
She and her family and their friends. They do a uh,
basically the kind of a pick them type of thing
every season for the challenge where before the before the
first episode of the challenge, they for all of the players,
they put them in a in a hat and basically
pull out names and whichever name they pull out for you,
that's kind of your person to root for for the season.
It's a ten dollars buy in. Whoever first person out
doesn't have to pay a person to win wins the
whole pot. And so I was like yeah. She asked
if I wanted to join. I was like fuck it,
why not? Like there's no skill involved at all. The
person that got picked for me is Coach. So it's like, okay,
so I picked three. They picked Coach. There are my
two people. Jonathan is hot and dumb, and Mike White
was the only other person that I know. Okay, that
was That was my stricked out for you worked out
for you. I don't know that that's gonna work for
any other episode.
Speaker 2: Well, I so my strategy. I think that I do
think the previous winners are gonna be early outs. So
I thought I did suspect Kyle was going to be
in early out just because he's a previous winner. I
think the same of d Uh.
Speaker 3: So honestly didn't remember anybody else's names, Like, couldn't remember
who people were when I was picking.
Speaker 2: So I think d and Savannah are the only winners left,
and I do think they're going to be targeted exclusively
because they're winners.
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll see.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so public league, because we're not doing a
private league this season. So right now in first place,
which theoretically, if you win this this league, then you
get to come and host an episode with us. Uh,
it'll probably be one of the one of the finale
episode or like the Nion or something like that. Figure
we still don't know if Challenge is happening.
Speaker 2: Off they're filming it right now, Oh are they?
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, you mentioned that. Okay, so then it
might be like one of the first episodes of Challenge
for next season. So first place right now, very first
episode of the season is Tribal Council Queen, Miss Britney p.
Two hundred and fifteen points.
Speaker 2: Good job, Brittany.
Speaker 3: I am tied with Gareth or not Gareth Garrett.
Speaker 1: Garrett h Garrett Gareth.
Speaker 3: Right who we thought might you guys thought might be
Gareth for like most of last season.
Speaker 2: It's the worst code name ever. They'll never know it's me,
He'll never.
Speaker 3: So I'm tied with I Am the Challenge Garrett at
two hundred and twelve, and fourth place is Where's Tyson
lindsay t at two of four?
Speaker 2: Tyson? You remember Tyson? He was on Challenge one.
Speaker 3: Tyson is one of the only people that I actually
remember and he was relatively.
Speaker 2: Memorable and survival legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he partially because he was so fucking pissed off
about Challenge USA. So we are doing a host team
again this season where Wolfe, Brian and I all pick.
It's kind of rotates throughout the the episode, but we
all pick players and answer the questions, which, oh yeah,
don't forget to answer questions every week because those will
help your score. And there are two season questions that
we'll talk about the minuette. So the host team is
in at number eight with christ Where are you guys?
Speaker 2: Me and Wolf are way at the fucking bottom?
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you are twenty three people pathetic, man, fucking pathetic.
Speaker 3: And two people didn't even didn't even.
Speaker 2: Like the worst. All right, So I'm glad I played
Kyle though, and I'm glad I did because that was
my only chance to get points from Kyle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan Wolf, he played Charlie Davis, Chrissy Hoffback. I
don't have to say their last name. So he played Charlie, Chrissy, Emily,
and Jonathan.
Speaker 1: And then Emily let me down this seat in this episode.
Speaker 2: Emily, where are you at? Emily? Kyle? I don't remember,
I don't remember who also I played? I just Kyle.
Speaker 3: Is the mister released the Epstein files because to be released.
Speaker 2: Our president is a pedophile?
Speaker 3: Like is he picked Chrissy, Serree, Emily and Kyle.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, yeah, it's actually a pretty good lineup.
It doesn't sound bad. Really, what do you look at?
I don't know, look good for your soak it up,
soak it up. But I'm coming coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 3: Jonathan is hot and dumb, and that was the reason
I picked.
Speaker 2: I think I'm at an advantage because I got Kyle,
so I have one extra as the season winds down,
I'm gonna have an extra.
Speaker 3: No, that is true. Yeah, that's actually that is a
pretty legit strategy.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I know that's my thing, because I don't think that
we're I don't remember if I'll have to look at
the points. I don't know that we're taking away points
this season for people going home. Maybe we are.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I lost.
Speaker 2: I did because Kyle colmind. Yeah, okay, but I still
a net positive for getting Kyle though.
Speaker 3: Frankly, yep, So there are Like I said, there are
two season questions, So anyone who's playing the Fantasy League,
you have to answer these before next week's episode. I
believe because it's the season long questions are locked in
when the lineup's lock in at episode two. So the
season questions are who will be the first jury member
and who will win the fire making competition. So since
we have a host team, we need to we need
to pick these and I don't know if we want
to talk about it on air with everybody else and
give them away.
Speaker 2: Our secrets all right, Carlyn. So here's how the fire
making works. Once you're down to final four. The winner
gets to basically pick two people to take with them
to final three, okay, and then there's a fire making
to figure out wait, no, take with you to the
final two okay, fire making between three and four to
find out who the third one is to go. So
fire making is like, that's how you get into the
final three, that's how you get to the to when
the jury selects you. That's when Devon's got out. Devon's
was rocking his whole season until Chris Underwood came in
and stole it from him at fire making, beat him
in fire Devons is out.
Speaker 3: So you literally have to make fire, yes, yes, okay,
and it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen in the daytime,
so we couldn't. Night's the glasses trip.
Speaker 2: It's that tribal council. Okay. They give you a flint
and a machete and a little pile of kindling and stuff,
and you've got to burn a big enough fire to
burn a rope basically, gotcha. Okay.
Speaker 1: When the rope burns through, a little flag will pop
up yep, and.
Speaker 2: That's how you win.
Speaker 1: You have to make the fire high enough and burn
hot enough to burn that rope.
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Okay, yeah, so fire making means you made top
three or top four, sorry, top four. But Chris Underwood,
by the way, we talked about Chris Underwood. He rocked
USA two I think it was on the Challenge, and
he's back for season forty two. He is. He's on
the cast next year, so you'll see him again. He's hot, Carlin.
He's got a big dick.
Speaker 3: Remember who he is?
Speaker 2: Big dick, big dick.
Speaker 3: Why do you know that?
Speaker 2: Because he's in his underwear all season. You can just
see it, just flopping around in his underwear.
Speaker 1: You see lots of people in their underwear this season, Carlin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you'll know. You'll know approximate dick
sizes of all of these players for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, it's good information for you to have.
Speaker 3: Carl's clearly, I'm chasing all of them.
Speaker 2: Christians. Christian, you wouldn't believe, Christian.
Speaker 3: Do we want to pick our our for the host
team on air or do we want to do it
off air?
Speaker 2: Air? Let's do it? Okay, give me one, give one?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: What do you mean, isn't there there's two questions, right, yeah,
there are two questions. So you want give one? Okay,
you don't am I talking?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know if you meant give you like
two names or each of you get to answer the
question or what that's So that's why I was looking. Okay,
so we'll.
Speaker 2: You're going to get she doesn't understand anything.
Speaker 3: No, I'm I am the novice.
Speaker 1: She's hot and dumb.
Speaker 3: I cannot, however, put one of these shoulders and stand
up and have you go up at three.
Speaker 2: You never tried that. I could do it. I could
do it.
Speaker 3: I should change my name on the the Jonathan of
the podcast.
Speaker 2: Gotta get dreads. Come back nextic with dreads, and then
you will.
Speaker 3: Be no thank you. I like my hair being able
to be brushed through. Wellfy, you get fire making and Tim,
you get jury member.
Speaker 2: Oh, first jury member. First jury member is uh sire.
She's gonna make the merch. She's going to make the
merge in make the.
Speaker 3: Be the first one voted out.
Speaker 1: That's ye, let's go Devons.
Speaker 2: Devon's fire making again.
Speaker 1: It's going to get a redemption.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: What's his first name?
Speaker 1: Rick? Rick the dick. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 3: Average I was looking for devons and devons is it's
not now medical order by last name? All right, So
we're locked in there.
Speaker 2: And then there's the things that joining the Fantas League, everybody,
it's not too late. You can catch up easily. You
can overpass us easily. Sometimes joining is late is better
because you have more players to play with.
Speaker 3: Yep, this is true. It's so much fun. It's it's
fun for us to laugh at. It's fun to play.
It's just it's a good time. Yeah, and I I
have a feeling this will be the only episode.
Speaker 1: For you.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Man. Maybe you got the Beginner's elect thing
going on. Yeah, it's pretty good at my picks, man,
but I yeah, not do so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I blown away by that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, one thing we forgot to do, tim Uh,
do you wanna tell people what they get when they
joined Patreon?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't have the list of patrons up.
I thought we were still pausing it. I'll get them
up as I talk about. It's five bucks a month.
Speaker 1: Guys, it's gonna be un paused on Saturday.
Speaker 2: So oh nice? All right, Well, join while you still can't.
While you still can't. It's five bucks a month and
with that you get exclusive access to our pre shows
after shows literally literally years and years worth of content,
access to our discord, which I should probably like ping
in and do something with that thing. And also we
say your name, So thank you to Abby, Elena, Alvin, Amanda, Anna,
Caroline Christian that's probably not the Christian from the show,
but maybe it is.
Speaker 3: Totally is totally love you.
Speaker 2: Cindy is still showing up on this list. We'll because
I must not have I put active payments, doesn't matter.
Derek and Wardo, Elizabeth, Emily, Oh, Emily, I'm totally single,
Emily hit me up the other Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Julie, Catherine, Lulu, Maverick, Mendy, Patty, Samuel, Scott, Shack,
shake our stand stove, Taylor and Will. Maybe it is
I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, maybe maybe Sindy rejoined. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it also takes a month, like you
have to get to the end of the month that.
Speaker 2: They maybe maybe March, she'll be off here.
Speaker 3: Thanks until then she gets a shout out.
Speaker 2: Ye hope you like Survivor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should watch a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm just this this show is just going to be
me asking all kinds of ridiculous questions.
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna be the biggest Survivor fan by the end, Carl,
and you're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: For me and Tim, this is like the fun part
of it because we have an idea of how it works.
Sometimes they add in some changes and stuff, and since
this is a big season fifty, there's going to be
some curveballs. Probably. This is the fun part. We get
to see you like be like, oh my god, I
love this.
Speaker 2: Do you like it? It's different than the you like
reality shows that are sort of drama relationships that sort
of shit.
Speaker 1: This is not that there will be more than it
takes a while to get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's still there's drama to an extent.
I okay, So I like the two different categories. I've
got the Challenge that kind of lives in its own category,
and then I've got Bravo and Bravo I love because
it's it's an escape of and it kind of falls
into the somewhat the same category. All of it is garbage,
all of them try you know, the Challenge, Bravo whatever,
all of them. I love them all, and they all
have that element of just ridiculous drama, ridiculous fights. People
are screaming at each other for the dumbest reasons. Ever,
sometimes not dumb reasons, but most of the time dumb, dumb,
dumb reasons. And I don't have drama like that my life.
I very purposely don't have dropping life but in my life,
so it's just kind of fun to watch rich bitches
scream at each other over just two things.
Speaker 1: Because like the ex wife used to watch Southern Charm.
Is that a Bravo sure or is that on a
different channel. No, it's Brava and the whole channel, the
whole show is just, oh, I'm rich, and I still
have so many problems in my life, and I'm like,
I will trade you, I'll be rich. Problem right now.
Speaker 3: On Southern Charm, we have two guys who are both
newly single, who one was being like there are two
women on the show that both of them were going
after one guy, and then he told one of them
that he doesn't look he doesn't see her that way,
even after spending like multiple weeks hanging out in a
hot tub in his backyard until four in the morning
multiple times a week with her, told her that he
doesn't see her that way, so let her on for
a while and kind of let her down. And so
now she's going after his friend and telling the other
woman that, oh, you shouldn't go after him. He's a
real asshole, like he's he's not worth going after, and
it's it's just stupid, like a lot of the drama
is like you got into when you were in like
high school.
Speaker 1: Just made me mad.
Speaker 2: Is Southern Charm? The one with Cameron is Cameron on.
Speaker 3: Southern Cameron was on Southern Chime.
Speaker 2: Yes, she form a challenger.
Speaker 3: Yep, she was on Southern Charm for a good few years.
She started the show. She was kind of the voice
of reason on that show. And then there were some
kind of some things that happened, and there were some
allegations thrown out that her husband was cheating on her,
and she basically said, fuck you guys, because he didn't.
He was not part of that show at all. And
when that all came out, she basically said fuck you all,
like that's that's not cool. You knew that. That was
my my hardline. And so she left along with like
one or two of the other ladies.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting.
Speaker 2: I always really liked her. She seemed really sweet. She
was on Brad season of the Real World and then
they just did one kind of.
Speaker 3: She's got a pretty good head on her shoulders. She
did give these like man children way too much leniency.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think women do that to men.
Speaker 3: Thank you a lot of the time.
Speaker 2: It's very nice of you.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just easier.
Speaker 2: I need it, men need it.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, So I guess for this episode
of Survivored, this has been Brian Big Uncle sweet.
Speaker 3: Team Jonathan, hot and dumb.
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, code name.
Speaker 1: Uh until next time.
Speaker 2: Oh yo o o oo wee ooh we we do
you like the tribal music temest me Oh it's great.
Scribers a vibe man, everybody. Bye,