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Speaker 1: Now it's time the Tensions that be Running High of

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to Tensions Running High at Penrith

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Panthers Podcast presented by the Western Weekend. This is episode

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sixty three. I'm Troy Dodds and enjoy by Nathan Taylor.

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Hello Nathan, Hello Troy. We are the voice of Ruguby

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who do it best. On the agenda Today, the Panthers

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Board returned honoring the club's past trial results and why

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I think less of a Panther's premiership winner After something

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I witnessed.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what this is about, but I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Nathan, let's kick things off. Last Friday night,

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the Panthers were walloped by a full strength Cowboys team

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in Mackay, and some people out there started hitting the

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panic button. And I saw some comments on social media,

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you know, people blowing up what's going on. I feel

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like we go through this every year where people suddenly

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think that trial results matter even in the slightest Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's I think two things come into it from

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that game against the Cowboys. Firstly, the commentators didn't help.

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I know there was at points where you wouldn't know

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that there was a reserve grade team playing a full

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strength first grade team. And I know that's you know,

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that's Andrew Vosses and Kevin Walters. You know did their

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best throughout the game to try and make people realize,

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but I think initially they were a bit Yeah, I

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think that played a role. And also, people just love

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to be comedians online as well. When you see Twitter

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just seeing you know, Panthers getting beaten by fifty or whatever, like,

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no matter who's in the team, that doesn't matter. You know,

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these days, you don't need to have the facts to

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say something you know, but you know that would have

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annoyed a lot of people. If you're true Panthers fan,

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you're true NROL fan, you actually looked at the team

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lists before the game got underway, you would have realized that,

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hey you didn't. No one would have barely recognized anyone

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in that Penrith team up against the Cowboys team that

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was fully stacked with all their best players in there.

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And I said last week that Penrith could lose by

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fifty and I was. I was pretty much bang on

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in terms of how much the Cowboys put on. They

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put over sixty points on them.

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Speaker 2: One thing I will say is that this system with

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the preseason challenge is a little bit flawed. When you

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have teams playing who are the Vegas team, yes, playing

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in week one, and then in week two, where the

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other teams are only playing their first trial, you end

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up playing a full strength team. I don't know if

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that's really helping anyone. I don't know if that's helping

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the Cowboys all Panthers in this case.

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Speaker 3: No, that's right. It's completely flawed and Panrif never have

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a chance to win this preseason challenge. Whatever's up for

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grows one hundred grand up for grabs, no chance as

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soon as that draw came out.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. So the Panthers disadvantaged

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yet again, right yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think that in another couple of teams as

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well that are disadvantaged by the whole thing too. But

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it just seemed a bit it's a bit of a

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rough deal. I know, there's not much getting around it,

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but yeah, it's a bit sucky.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well yeah, I mean looks similar for a

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team like I say, Newcastle. Newcastle were beaten by the

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Dogs twenty eight nil, and I've seen you know, Newcastle

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fans getting really worried about you know, jeez, we couldn't.

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Not scoring points was our big problem. Guys. Trust me,

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preseason means nothing. If you go back through the last

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ten years and have a look at the premiership winners,

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preseason trials. It really does not matter.

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Speaker 3: At least Newcastle. The Dogs are going to Vegas, so

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they actually played each other, which is, you know, which

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weren't dis naging some other team you know, last weekend.

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Speaker 2: But true.

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Speaker 3: As for Penrith that you know they're they're sitting dead

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last on that preseason Challenge ladder and a lot of

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teams would have been smashed as well by the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: It's not just been all right, Well, a much more

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regular looking Panthers team will take on the West Tigers

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this week. So just to give everyone the insight into

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the trials, there's a double header at Leichhartoval on on

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Friday night, kicking off with the Warriors and the Dolphins,

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which I find somewhat extraordinary in a way that the

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NRL has gone with two teams traveling, one from New

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Zealand and one from from Queensland to play Atchhartoval in Sydney.

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I continue the draw. These games just need to be

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in regional New South Wales or Queensland. Why are we

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having the Charity Sheeld back at Woollongong. Why are we

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having trials you know at venues like McDonald Jones Stadium,

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to actually be supportive of the regional having the preseason

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challenge in the country area, is the best way to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've just got this whole pre season

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thing wrong from start to finish. Not only you know

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our team's disadvantage, but yeah, you're right, Well that's just

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that's a ridiculous scheduling, having the Warriors coming over, Like

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Speaker 2: Are they doing practicing getting on a plane?

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Speaker 3: They but they're saving money by having two games at

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the one venue. I'm not sure what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I guess so, but surely not as much money as

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they would say by not flying over the Warriors from

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New Zealand and the Dolphins from Queensland.

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Speaker 3: Ye'll at least have the game in southeast Queensland or something.

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Speaker 2: That's very strange anyway, that'll kick things off. The precursor

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to the the Tigers Panthers, which has obviously got a

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bit of a rivalry about it.

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Speaker 3: That it's going to be great.

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Speaker 2: Eight ten pm. I reckon there will be a good

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crowd there that one at Likehard Oval on Friday night.

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You can watch it live on KO or Foxtel and look,

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if you are interested. Three games on Saturday, Sharks, Raiders, Roosters, Eels,

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Melbourne and the Titans, and then on Sunday we finish

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off Father Rabbit as are taking a game to Mudgie,

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which is good to see. They take on the Sea Eagles.

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But look, none of us really care about the pre

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season challenge. But it's still good to see some footy around.

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Speaker 3: Did anyone stand out for you in that game, Troy,

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It could be good to talk about that. Who struggling.

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Speaker 2: Look, look, I don't think it's really fair to talk

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about struggles, but I thought Kilane going new recruit, of course,

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defended really well. Really liked his defense. Thought Zachary Clark

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loved him. He played goals as well, Yeah, kicking goals

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as well. Did get our first look at say Toby Crosby.

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go throw him in round one or anything like that,

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but but yeah, look, I think I think what we

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saw was was some youngsters who you know, obviously need

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a bit more experience and death probably need a bit

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more experience up against up against big teams. But you

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know they're never going to be in that circumstance again

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where you've got, you know, all of these young women

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against they're gonna they're going to learn from from the.

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Speaker 3: Other Ken Skips.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wowco two tries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did obviously. We we'd heard at the end

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of last season that that Penrith got him from Canbero,

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and they told the story and the commentary that Ricky

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was was very unhappy that that Penrith sort of stole

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him basically from the Raiders and very much like a

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Blaze to Lungey clone as well. He looked very similar

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to to Blaze out there, just even though the look

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and the way they play, and he was he was

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really exciting. So someone never even seen in my life play,

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some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will

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see him through.

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Speaker 3: It could be Nathan clears your placement in a couple

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Speaker 2: Maybe. All right, Well that's Friday Night, So Pantas Tigers

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on Friday Night. Look forward to that one. Still a

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few players missing, you know, some some rumors out there

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about different injuries and whatnot. I don't know if we'll

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get any sort of clarity from the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: This the big one, right, Yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what's going on. There some some rumors about a

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bad injury, but I really don't know. And we need

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to bring back the West Fund injury or whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: It's been buried, hasn't it, And we do need.

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Speaker 2: That's we can keep talking about things that need to change.

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We do need like a formal process for clubs around

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what this, what what is supposed to be the way

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they report injuries? You know, because I don't think that

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there is no there is no rule.

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Speaker 3: Which is unbelievable in a game that that has takes

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gambling into account. There's no there's no rule where you

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have full disclosure and transparency of what's happening with your players.

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Speaker 2: In theory, Nathan Cleary could break his leg tomorrow and

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the Panthers would not have to say anything until an

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hour before kickoff in round.

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Speaker 3: One, and even then you wouldn't have exactly the exact injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be unbelievable touring you of changes. The

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NRL came out this week two big origin announcements. So

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the first one related to playing in New Zealand next year. Yeah,

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times and time or else. My presumption is that they're

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going to go to what a nine o'clock New Zealand kickoff?

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Speaker 3: Seven kicking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seven o'clock here, Yeah, that's would say. So, you

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know that's interesting because that it means Channel nine are

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copying that, like will.

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Speaker 3: Cop that they couldn't go any later than nine. That's

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not that's getting ridiculous for fans over there and for

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Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly, yeah.

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Speaker 3: They can make a work one one off at seven pm,

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then they're completely changing the rules state of origin eligibility.

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this sort of came out of nowhere. Really, It's something

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play for maybe New Zealand or England to maybe have

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a chance to play for New South Wales or Queensland. Now,

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under the current rules only you could only play for

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like your Tonguas and Samoas and those sort of those

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nations like that. But now Peter Landys has released news

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that any player can play even if you're a Tier

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one nation. So that means New Zealand is now eligible

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and new players that play for New Zealand or eligible

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plays that plays for England eligible as long as they

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have the following Okay, so they have to still have

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been either born in New South Wales or Queensland. That's

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one of the rules of the criteria yep, or the

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player resided in New South Wales or Queensland prior to

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their thirteenth birthday. The other one, which is would be

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a rare one. They're player's father played state of origin. Okay.

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many years now he's pledges this New Zealand. Under the

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former rules, he wouldn't have been able to play state

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was born in New South Wales. He was born in Blacktown,

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with this, I'm okay with this.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a great, great change.

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Speaker 2: And the case of McLean example is a great example. Yeah,

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he has New Zealand heritage, of course he should be

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allowed to play for New Zealand and one of that.

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But he's born in Blacktown. He's grown up, you know,

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with the pride of a blue jumper. Yeah, in New

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South Wales, and he should be able to represent New

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South Wales. It's not going to allow a Sam Burgess,

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you know, who came from you know, senior footing in

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England to suddenly play State of Oregan.

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Speaker 3: That's why, that's why they have that little that little

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rule in there that if you have to be here

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by thirteenth birthday. Now, yeah, you're right with Casey McLean.

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Like he played, he's played under twenties origin for New

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someth Whales, so he's represented those things. The one that's

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an interesting one and I don't have clarity over it yet,

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maybe you do. Troy was Moses Leoder. Now he was

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born in Auckland, Okay, okay, but obviously he must have

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come here as a teenager. Now, I'm not sure whether

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he came over prior to thirty after, so that's going

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to be one that Moses might need to clarify with people.

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Whether he gets a shot these days, who knows, but I

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know he was in the mix a few years ago

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and he wasn't allowed, so I'm not sure what happens

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with that one.

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Speaker 2: I think the age is right too. I think that

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you know, after you're kind of twelve thirteen, you know,

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your likelihood that you have any sort of allegiance or

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passion to either New South Wales or Queensland is probably,

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you know, pretty pretty thin where if you were here

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before then you've grown up so passionate about the footy

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and probably passionate about origin. So I think that's like,

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I don't think that hurts anything. Obviously, they needed to

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do this because the rise of Samoa and Tongra and

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whatnot is so significant that we're to see them eventually

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become I guess Tier one nations on the on the calendar.

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is that this pretty much squashes any potential of mid

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year tests and whatnot around that origin period. So we're

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pretty much saying we are going with either Wednesday night

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origins or standalone weekends where that's all that's on. Because

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you're not going to suddenly be able to play a

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samoatonga or or something like that. You'd have to choose,

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So that's that's not going to happen. So because there

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had been talk about almost stopping the NRL comp for

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three weeks or four weeks going with Origin as standalone,

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which was part of sort of reducing the club season,

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but then you'd be able to put these test matches

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and whatnot on as well, which we all want more of.

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So that that kills that off. That's done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's smart, and it's weird like Brian to

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O can play Origin and you know Casey McLean on

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the other wing cannot. But they were both born, you know, yes,

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in Western Sydney.

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Speaker 2: All right, change something good, Peter, Well done, Pete. Another

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thing on Peter Landy's as well is we often talk

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about the TV rights here. He was on the Hello

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sport YEP. I watched that interview this morning and Peter

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pretty much concedes in that interview that in Australia with

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Rugby League, the ideal scenario for the next TV deal

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is a freeware broadcaster and a subscription partner, and that's it.

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No bringing in a random Netflix or an Amazon for

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He's definitely open to it. He's saying what his ideal

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scenario is. So I don't think in that case the

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NRL are chasing this now. Of course, I'm sure that

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if Amazon comes along and offers you, you know, a

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billion dollars for Thursday Night or something, you're going to

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consider it. But it seemed that he was actually a

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bit more like, no, like, the ideal scenario is one

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subscription partner, one free to wear partner. Now, he did

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say something in there that made me think, oh yeah,

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there's definitely talks re nine and Stamp. He said free

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to wear partner who might have a subscription platform as well.

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So I think you'll find that. As I've said to

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you all along, I don't think Fox lose anything, but

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I think nine pick up a game somewhere that they

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put on stand yep.

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be mad not to use that platform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that means if you are a a nine

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watcher and you watch your footy through nine and nine only,

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so you watch three games a week, and you don't

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pay for a Fox subscription. You'd then be able to

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just pay this much smaller Stand Sports subscription and get

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a fourth game, you know, so you'd be able to

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watch half of your games during the week.

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Speaker 3: That isn't that chieftain Troy? I know you you get

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a free subscription from your your other job.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how long that'll now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been taken over a pub barry through my

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other job because it's a two g B which is

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own by nine of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes, their Christmas present to start is a Stand subscription,

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but that might be changing because they are thirty dollars.

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Probably be a thirty dollars the ouch of the log

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cabin or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, it's like about it's thirty dollars if

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you've got the full STAND Sport package with your normal

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stances normals.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, just for sport.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, both. You can't just have sport. You have

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to have a standard subscription, which is whatever it is,

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twelf dollars, then it's thirty and then then then it's

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the extra and it's thirty dollars combined, and there's like

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another eighteen dollars orty. It's a lie. If you just

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want one game a week of considering.

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Speaker 2: Even though forty people are complaining about it, you can

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get KO for forty five bucks or something or forty bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mind you. Obviously they've got other sports on there,

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the Premier League and the Olympics. That was well, okay,

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that sports too, of course ESPN and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's tricky. It's tricky all right. By

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the way, if you are anywhere in Western Sydney and

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Speaker 3: So yes, they're they're great, greater great car dealership.

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Speaker 2: Get down there now. The other news from during the week,

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the Panthers board elections were held and the current board

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of the Panthers has been returned, so no changes, no

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big drama there. We had three people who had put

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their hand up to challenge the current board in Peter

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Lang of course works with us here at the weekend

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from time to time and is your uncle, yes yes,

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Vic Shipley who owns Paler Smart Electrical local business. And

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Alan Harding, who was of course it was a Panther

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many years now. The one thing I will say about

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this good First of all, good on the three for

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putting their hand up. I have been doing this job

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for a long time, and the number of people who

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say to me, I'm going to go for the Panthers

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board and actually don't do it, it's pretty significant. So

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good on those guys were having a go. It's pretty

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difficult to un seat an existing board when there's no

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dark cloud hanging over the club. In fact, that's probably

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the opposite hanging over Panthers from a from a member's

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point of view. But look, you were you were involved,

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you know, you know Pete obviously really closely, and you

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would have got some some learnings through this whole process.

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Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, it was an interesting process. I can

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probably talk about it now that that the voting has

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closed and you know, we have a result. But yeah,

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obviously was supporting my uncle Peter throughout this. It was

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I was really proud of him that he put his

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hand up to have a crack at the board. Something

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something piqued his interest last year when he heard something

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about Panthers's future and he just wanted to maybe have

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a say in that, and that's why he was so

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determined to go on the board. But unfortunately, under the

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current rules, and I don't know whether they'll ever get changed. Now.

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One of the current rules, Pete was not able to

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tell the world that he was running or tell the

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world why he was running and why he wanted to

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so badly be on that board. And that was the

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same for all the candidates that put their hands up

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and the current board, no one was able to say

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anything due to the due to or by law, and

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if they did and they got caught doing it, they

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would be automatically eliminated, which makes it tricky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I've written, and we've said it

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before on this podcast, that needs to change, and I've

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spoken to current board members too who agree that it

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needs to change. It is a rule that was put

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in place a long time ago due to some dramas

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you know the board at the time. It is it

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is it is simply not democratic to have an election

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for a board and yet you are not allowed, as

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a care that to say here is what I'm standing

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and then please vote for me. For this reason. It's

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it's it's actually lunacy. And hopefully they do actually change

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that for future.

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Speaker 3: But hopefully they do. But yeah, basically, the whole the

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whole thing was it was really difficult for obviously Pete

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to get to get the word out. So there was

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a lot of obviously, you know, chatting, you know, amongst

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friends and personal and trying to let people know that

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there was a vote happening, because as we know, Troy,

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there there was no email sent out to members informing them,

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or a Facebook post or anything on social media saying hey,

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we have an election this weekend. Even at the club.

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I was there on the weekend voting, and unless you

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knew there was a vote taking place upstairs, there was

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no signage. There was nothing. It was almost like they

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didn't want anyone to know it was happening, which makes

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it difficult because there's tens of thousands of Panthers members, folks.

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But I can tell you right now three hundred and

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seventy one people voted in that election.

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Speaker 2: Which is that mad standard, you know, Yeah, and it's

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madness less than four hundred. What is interesting is what

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you just said then, is that there was no email

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or no letter or anything like that about the board election.

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I found that interesting because they did send an email

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once the results had been confused within hours, within our

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So I just found that interesting. I don't I'm not

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casting any expersions or whatever. I just don't understand the

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logic behind that. If you were going to send a hey,

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the board's been re elected email, I would imagine you

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would send a hey, there is an election. Absolutely a

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little bit strange.

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Speaker 3: It was a little bit strange.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the fact that we are still and

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don't get me wrong, I know we are in state

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and federal and council elections as well, but that we

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are still doing a very manual system. I would think

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that for a club election that is not life or death,

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not that you know federal politics is either, but obviously

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that's more serious. Yes, that we could come up with

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something that we could do this electronically, Like I knew

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people over the weekend who were away and couldn't vote.

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There must be members of other Panthers clubs too, that

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their interests relate to the group interests that would have

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had to come to Penrith the vote. If you remember

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Port mcquarie Panthers unless they had a voting booth there,

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but they wouldn't have they weren't. Yeah, look, there's some

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changes that need to happen to this process. I think

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that's has opened our eyes.

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Speaker 3: It did, and some other interesting aspects that we noticed

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as well, and obviously I understand why this is a rule,

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but we had some friends and colleagues here at the

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paper that wanted to go down and vote, but they

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became members just slightly well, renewed their membership slightly too late.

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00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,279
My wife was one of them. She's been a pantherm

474
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880
for years, so other people in the office. But because

475
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,519
they didn't renew their membership prior to the twenty fifth

476
00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:17,559
of January, they were automatically ruled out. They said, sorry,

477
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,720
you know, even though they weren't new members, they had

478
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:22,640
been approved as members from years ago. They were just

479
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,119
renewing and they just renewed too late. So they were

480
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,039
basically tossed aside. And I'm sure a lot of the

481
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:29,920
candidates had people in the same boat. And understand, you

482
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,759
said to me, you know, they don't want people stucking,

483
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,759
you know, votes and stuff like that, just paying for

484
00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:38,839
people to become members and voting for them. Totally understand

485
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,200
the rules, but yeah, maybe they could have stretched it

486
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,640
out a bit longer, like if you the week of

487
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359
the election, you can't become a member, or something is

488
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,240
get people a chance.

489
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: Well that might lean into the fact that maybe even

490
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,359
if you know thember they put out an email saying

491
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,759
here of the nominations, you must be a member by

492
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,680
this date. The date that's right.

493
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,799
Speaker 3: We did not know that.

494
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it look definitely some things that need to him

495
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,839
absolutely prove Yeah, through the process. And as I said,

496
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,799
we're not suggesting that anyone, you know, the current board

497
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,200
is actually impacted by these rules as well. Yeah, you know,

498
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,039
like if if you were in a situation where you

499
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,079
felt that, say, let's say Pete was somehow getting momentum,

500
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,640
Pete's going to get on the board, Peter Lang. The

501
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,319
current board can't say, oh, like we need to stand

502
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240
up and defend ourselves here and say why we're a

503
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,279
great boarder. They can't do that.

504
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: They can't do that, you know.

505
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,039
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just silly.

506
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: But what makes it hard for new candidates, As I

507
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,599
said to you earlier, Troy, they are basically a loan.

508
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,599
There are basically alone wolf going up against five or

509
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720
six people, like you know, yes, we're nominating for five,

510
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,240
but the board already had a person on there already,

511
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,720
so six people that want to retain that board. So

512
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,200
it's one person trying to garner as much folks as possible,

513
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,519
but everyone else is sort of working together, which just

514
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:54,000
shows they were a tight board, of course, but it

515
00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,720
just makes it hard, not just for Pete, but for

516
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,880
Allen and for Vick as well, Like they're all in

517
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359
the in the same boat. They were. They got they did,

518
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,200
they did it well, they got some votes, but essentially

519
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,279
they were they were blown out of the water there,

520
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,400
and it just makes it difficult for any new candidate

521
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720
to get on, just because of the how the whole

522
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,720
elections run and being designed. You know, it makes it hard.

523
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,160
But I was there, I was a scrutiny yesterday. The

524
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,960
whole thing was run very fairly. I was there when

525
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,160
they read out the votes, they counted the votes. I

526
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,599
can confirm they were all all ridgide professional and it

527
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,680
wasn't Panthers staff that were doing it. It was people

528
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,960
from the electoral offices and polling offices. So they did

529
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,000
it all professional, above board. Hands off to them. It

530
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,359
was just, yeah, the whole process of trying to get

531
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,359
elected isn't easy.

532
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:43,319
Speaker 2: All right, Well, congratulations to the existing board. I understand.

533
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,839
Now there's so now there's six members on the board.

534
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,839
It's normally the seven person board, so we will see

535
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,480
a new independent director appointed.

536
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: And there's obviously some other things to come right. Sure,

537
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,519
we have agms, we have chairman announcements, you can tell

538
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:55,839
us a bit.

539
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: So we do have an AGM coming up at the

540
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,200
end of March, So that'll be interesting because some things

541
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,279
come out of often that annual report and the AGM

542
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,920
that really show you where Panthers are sitting from a

543
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,480
business perspective. And obviously things have been pretty good in

544
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240
you know, for some time now, but you just never

545
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,640
know when something surprises you, when something comes out of

546
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,799
left field and you go, oh, gee, that doesn't look good. Conversely,

547
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,079
you might look at it and go gee, things things

548
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:25,839
are going well here. And there's obviously a lot of

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,599
challenges for Panthers. The poker machine revenue that has been

550
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,839
relied on for so long, and this is something the

551
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,960
current board as well aware of and Brian Fletcher, the

552
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,039
former CEO, spoke about quite a lot, is that clubs

553
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:38,880
aren't going to be rely on that in the future.

554
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,559
You know that that gambling market is changing, you know,

555
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,119
as generations change, and yeah, so we will see that happen. Yeah. Also,

556
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,400
I guess I don't know how this works internally, but

557
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,440
no one elected a chairman as far as the members.

558
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,519
So a chairman if that's Peter Graham to continue or

559
00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:58,960
if someone else wants to put their hand.

560
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,799
Speaker 3: So that's done. Behind closed, we get the class doors.

561
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wait and see what happens.

562
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: But obviously very impactful and the chairman is a very

563
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,400
important cog of the machine.

564
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, it certainly is. You want that. Look as

565
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,599
we go into things like the resigning of Nathan and

566
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240
I have and Cleary, you certainly want the three key

567
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,160
roles your chairman, your group CEO, and your football CEO sorted.

568
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,559
So Chairman's pretty much going to be sorted obviously in

569
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:27,720
the next few weeks. But the board is certainly sorted.

570
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,480
We've got Andrew Hill now Matt Cameron, so hopefully they

571
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,400
can get to work and resign.

572
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: Those guys resigning. We've got a lot of players off

573
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,279
contract in the next few years.

574
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,519
Speaker 2: We do. Now. Another thing we've spoken about a lot

575
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,640
on this podcast is the Panthers honoring their history and

576
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,400
that they've sort of dropped the ball on this along

577
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,200
the journey. We had the team of Legends announced to

578
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,200
the club's fortieth anniversary, and we had a Hall of

579
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,119
fame announced back in twenty sixteen, which has got very

580
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,680
dusty because no one has been added to it in

581
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:03,279
this base of ten years. But last week the Panthers

582
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,200
announced some changes to how they're going to honor former

583
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,240
players and officials.

584
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,599
Speaker 3: Yes, certainly try and obviously I think they announced that

585
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,759
after we brought our podcast out last week. But yeah,

586
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,960
so basically they've inducted a whole bunch of new legends

587
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:25,559
into their Panthers legend system. I guess that original legends,

588
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,839
so basically that original team of the forty Hunniversary team

589
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,880
that still exists, but they're now just legends. Okay, So

590
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,440
we had big names in there, Brad Fittler, you had

591
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,799
your Craig Gowers, you had your Roy Simmons's, your Greg Alexander's.

592
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:44,039
They were already legends, okay, yep. So basically what Panthers

593
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,079
are doing is so from here on in, we're going

594
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,039
to induct some more legends into that category. So, but

595
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,119
they're not just opening up to players, they're also aple

596
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,319
to coaches, administrators that you have been a part of

597
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,160
the great Club of Panthers over the years. So so

598
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720
it was a very interesting, you know, the way they

599
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,240
did it. So we saw that they renounced to put

600
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,680
a video out Late last week, Peter Graham was making.

601
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,359
Speaker 2: Some phone calls.

602
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,279
Speaker 3: Good promotion for Peter Grahame right before an election, but

603
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480
he was making some phone calls and letting some of

604
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:21,119
these plays or key family members of past people that

605
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,599
were inducted, letting them know that their loved one or

606
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,559
themselves had become a new Panthers legend. So I'll run

607
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,680
through them, Troy. So the twenty twenty six Panthers Legends inductees,

608
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,720
I'll start with the administrators. MERV Cartwright obviously the godfather

609
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,119
of the Panthers, the man that started at all that

610
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,200
that got the club into the first grade competition. He's

611
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,400
officially a legend as a Panthers legend. The second one

612
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,039
was obviously Roger Cowen, Troy, you probably know a bit

613
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,319
more about Roger, but he was significant back in the

614
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:57,720
eighties nineties in term making Panthers the league's club.

615
00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: What it is.

616
00:29:58,319 --> 00:29:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

617
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:00,839
Speaker 2: Well, of course he had the vision and to get

618
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,680
the Malgo a road site and moved the leagues club

619
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:08,640
there from Station Street and obviously led Panthers for forty

620
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:14,720
years as CEO. And he obviously left in some controversial circumstances,

621
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,839
you know, following the Tembi inquiry and all of that

622
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,279
and drama between Panthers and the Weekend Roger Cowen, it's

623
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,640
center point. And I think following Cowen's departure, for some reason,

624
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,240
there was a real desire for Panthers to kind of

625
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,799
get away from Roger Cowen. You know, I think they

626
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,440
felt that his last few years there has sort of

627
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400
tarnished the Panthers' reputation and that was probably largely unfair,

628
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,359
you know, And so I think there's been a feeling

629
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,400
that they haven't really honored him well enough and that

630
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,079
they haven't really recognized his contribution to the club. You know,

631
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:53,440
You've got other people who are recognized in various capacities

632
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960
around the club, but not but not Roger Cowen. But

633
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,680
thankfully that has now been changed and corrected. And Roger,

634
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,759
I know his son Max, who worked at Panthers for

635
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,440
a long time, would be very happy with this that

636
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,920
he's being recognized in this way. So it's a deserved

637
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,119
recognition given the commitment that Roger cown put into Panthers

638
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,920
over a really, really long time. And I think there

639
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,880
was no doubt that if you were going to include officials,

640
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,279
then Roger Cown had.

641
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,759
Speaker 3: To be had to be right, and of course Troy.

642
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,480
The third administrator that was announced was obviously John Farraga. Yeah,

643
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,720
there's not much more needs to be said about John

644
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,880
passed away late last year, but an absolute Panthers icon

645
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,680
and he had to just be in that listed. Any Yeah,

646
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:39,240
definitely well deserved to John, and congrats to Jakie's son

647
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,559
who took that call and was. I spoke to him

648
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,559
yesterday at the counting of the board and he was

649
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960
very Yeah, he was very, very very happy and so

650
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,119
pleased with how Panthers looked after his dad for forty years.

651
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
That was pretty cool. But to the players now, Troy,

652
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,680
there are a bunch of players that got announced as well.

653
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:00,880
So these are the following players are legend. Steve, which

654
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,240
surprisingly as the number one capped Panther up until ISAO

655
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,440
last year, is finally a legend. He wasn't in part

656
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,839
of that original list, which is quite surprising, but Steve

657
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880
Carter a legend. Luke lewis on the two thousand and

658
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:20,440
three Grand Final team. Obviously, Panthers legend played a couple

659
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,519
of hundred games I think for the club in his

660
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,759
tenure there, so he's well deserved another one. Luke prittis

661
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440
the Clive Churchill medallist from two thousand and three. I

662
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,599
know he's very excited that he's become a legend officially.

663
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:37,319
Actually Panthers brought him out to the stadium media event

664
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,519
last week to celebrate him. Luke Rooney, double tri scorer

665
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,640
in the two thousand and three Grand Final, has become

666
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160
a legend. I think what he did in that Grand

667
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,079
Final probably was enough for him to skewer that spot.

668
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,839
And the final one was Trent Waterhouse Troy, so you

669
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,319
would have noticed these last four names were were huge

670
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,880
in that three team, along with Gowa and Wessa who

671
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,920
already in the Legend team, a Tony Pulatur as well.

672
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,559
So Trent Waterhouse huge career at Penrith, played his whole

673
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,079
NROL career at Penrith before I think going in England

674
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,079
for a couple of years. So I think that is

675
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,720
a very good list, apart from maybe some coaches that

676
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:13,559
they may have left out. I probably would have maybe

677
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,480
had a feel Gold in there, but maybe that's for

678
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:16,000
the future.

679
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,359
Speaker 2: So we're going to announce one new entrant every year

680
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,000
from here on on New Legends, so there is only

681
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,039
going to be one every year, so which.

682
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: Could probably be done at like an end of year function,

683
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,160
a launch or something like that.

684
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Which is interesting because now, so I guess now that

685
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:37,160
they're probably declaring that they're I'm not saying that they're done,

686
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:41,240
but they they've signed off on enough ninety one and

687
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:41,960
oh three.

688
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:44,599
Speaker 3: They're done. I think that's done. I think your settlers,

689
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,960
null of ours, Fadawira's, Preston Campbell's, probably aren't going to

690
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:49,279
make it.

691
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess. So you could look at

692
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,559
the end of the day, though, we like if you

693
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,920
if it's not someone like I guess in some case,

694
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
it will be someone who's just retired potentially as far

695
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:08,639
as I know, there's no rules around them, haven't been

696
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,119
retired for a certain amount of time or haven't heard that. No,

697
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,360
but like let's say it's next year. Yeah, well, well,

698
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,440
maybe you do go back to a ninety one or

699
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,239
three person who's been left off, or you go further

700
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,320
back than that. I don't know.

701
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what I feel like they covered in

702
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,360
that team of forty fortieth anniversary team. Maybe they were

703
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:33,000
satisfied with those names that came out of there. So

704
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,320
do we what about in the last fifteen years, Troy,

705
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,519
do we like, do we get a Jamie Sower or

706
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,840
a Luke wall Sure? Like is that just being that's

707
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,000
silly right, Like? Yeah, you know Michael Jenny's Yeah.

708
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think that they are probably a legend status.

709
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,880
But also you're going to say you probably you don't

710
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,639
have to win a comp to be a club legend either.

711
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,400
But it's going to be interesting. It's going to be

712
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,800
a good debate every year. The other thing, of course,

713
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,199
is that the Hall of Fame still remains, So the

714
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,800
four players in the Hall of Fame Gramer, Greg Alexander,

715
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Craig Gower, Roy Simmons and Royce Simmons, they remain in

716
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,599
the Hall of Fame, So we can see a Hall

717
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:13,199
of Fame. Addition, I guess, in addition to the Panther's.

718
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Legends, they can be elevated to Hall of Fame. But

719
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,360
the legend first, I would say, so, yeah, legend first,

720
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,320
and something's wrong will we see?

721
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,559
Speaker 2: And I will say that Panthers are having a pretty

722
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,360
exclusive dinner this Saturday night that will both be at,

723
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,559
which is the season launch slash sixtieth Anniversary dinner. Could

724
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,000
we see a fifth Hall of Fame member as a surprise?

725
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: And I haven't heard that, but is that something that

726
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:37,159
that's a possibility.

727
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: I think, well, I think it is to the point that, Okay,

728
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,800
they've fixed up the structure around everything, but we can't

729
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,159
deny the fact that we still only have four players

730
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,920
in this Hall of Fame. Yeah, right, that we announced

731
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,519
ten years ago. So I wouldn't think that that's the case.

732
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,079
Speaker 3: It has to be someone that's in the Legends Party arena.

733
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,199
I think it has to be a It has to

734
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,920
be a player, right, we can't make are we making

735
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,480
a coach or an admin in the Hall of Fame.

736
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,119
Speaker 2: We're going to ask you this in ten years time.

737
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,039
Ivan Cleary is done at Panthers and has led Penrith

738
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,320
to maybe five or six premierships. Saying he shouldn't be

739
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,079
in the Hall of Fame.

740
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 3: Well probably, yeah, I think you probably can.

741
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker 2: But look as much as I had my issues with

742
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,039
him from time to time, I think the next legend,

743
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,719
the next legend is probably feel good, feel good, and

744
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,599
he ticks a couple of boxes. Obviously as coach of

745
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,559
the ninety one team, but then as an administrator who

746
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,079
brought the club back from the brink in kind of

747
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,360
that sort of twenty ten.

748
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,559
Speaker 3: And he played as well, he was young as captain.

749
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:40,159
What about John Lang, I'll throw that at you.

750
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, John Lang, premiership wing coach, you eventually include

751
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,360
all your all your coaches.

752
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 3: I think you have to do if you only have

753
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,320
three premiership coaches, so you might as well just throw

754
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:48,639
them in.

755
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a great debut.

756
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: It's a good idea.

757
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. But I would like to

758
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,239
I think we need another Hall of Fame and I

759
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,079
would like to see. Now, how are we going to

760
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,400
showcase these legends? Are we going to have at the

761
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,280
new stadium? Can we convince the state government to let

762
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,639
us put up a legend's wall that's not just a

763
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,679
temporary thing that they put up that it's actually a war.

764
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,760
I'm calling for it the.

765
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,039
Speaker 3: Question without notice, and we just spoke about it. But

766
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,199
if I was to give you a you could give

767
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480
someone a Hall of Fame job. Now, elevate one of

768
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:20,719
these legends and become a Hall of Famer on Saturday.

769
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,559
Who is it? Not sing from the list I just

770
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,039
read out, but maybe they were in the legend system already.

771
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, who comes into the Hall of Fame. Jeez,

772
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,079
it's a tough one and I'm thinking I'm trying to

773
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:42,960
think now through the ninety one team and the three team. Look,

774
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,360
I probably lean towards the Steve Carter.

775
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

776
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: I think Steve Carter up until recently with the most

777
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,719
capped Panther of all time. Not only was he part

778
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
of a premiership winning team, but he then would go

779
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,760
on to lead Pendra through a difficult period as well,

780
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,719
and his leadership during that period was pretty high and

781
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,960
you know, stayed true in Lord of Penrith. You know,

782
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480
I loved, loved the team, was a you know, came

783
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:09,719
through the range here. So look, if I had to

784
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,000
put someone in there right now, I'm going to go Steve.

785
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: Steve Cutt, and he's he's sort of been back in

786
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,800
the Penrith fold in the last couple of years and

787
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,760
he moved away from the era, but now he's, you know,

788
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,559
with all that stuff recently, with Isaiah breaking his record,

789
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,719
he's sort of been welcoming back into the Panthers family.

790
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,320
I'd probably go like Steve Carter's a great choice. I

791
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,119
would not be disappointed Ryan Girdler, I know he was

792
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,360
up for it many years ago, ten years ago, he

793
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,119
was one of the candidates to become a Hall of

794
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,960
Fame and I think he just missed out. He would

795
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,280
be I think people would love to see him on there.

796
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:42,159
And I know Mark Geyer, you know, obviously he probably

797
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:47,840
didn't have a hugely you know, long successful run at

798
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,800
the Panthers. It was very you know, he had had

799
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,039
a multiple, multiple different things happened to him and during

800
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,440
his time at the club, started well with the premiership,

801
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,800
then went off elsewhere and then finished his career there.

802
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,159
But just as a as a Panthers legend, a Panthers

803
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,199
ambassador and a guy that's always stayed true to Penwth,

804
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,519
lived in Penweth, has a business in Penrith, Like that's

805
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,360
you know, everyone associates Panthers a Mark guy.

806
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,079
Speaker 2: Ye. And what's interesting too, I should we should say

807
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:18,000
when we were adding legends, is that we are only

808
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:19,960
going to be able to add like once this current

809
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,119
crop of premiership winners retires, we are only going to

810
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:25,800
be able to add one a year. So and Nathan

811
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,760
Cleary and and Isaiah. We're gonna have to go in

812
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,320
in different years. That's Dylan Edwards in a different year,

813
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:32,719
Liam Martin the different.

814
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:33,559
Speaker 3: And maybe they change that.

815
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: Look, they're going to have to decide that could be

816
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,360
gone forever, they could could I then Cleary has to

817
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,320
go in, so you know, you might be Nathan Cleary

818
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,519
might not go in until six years after he retires

819
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,360
or joins or somewhere, but you put it.

820
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: Okay, this is going This segment's going on a long time.

821
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,719
But I'm thinking of pel like kickout and episode chorus.

822
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,199
Now do they get considered for stuff like this? Stephen Crichton,

823
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,639
Stephen Crichton like huge one hour won the first premiership

824
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:05,079
in twenty every grand final? I mean that they're legends.

825
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, who know. This is what's great. It's

826
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,159
good that Panthers have dusted that off so we can

827
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,440
have these debates now. Nathan. Look, it gives me no

828
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,719
pleasure to bring you this story, and I'm sure it

829
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,880
will break everywhere after this, but I do, unfortunately have

830
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,199
to reveal an incident involving a current premiership winner. I've

831
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,159
decided not to name him. I don't want to embarrass him. Okay,

832
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,079
but he was involved in an incident that I witnessed,

833
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,920
and I think less of him now I really do.

834
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,280
And this is what happened. So I decided, after I

835
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,599
dropped my daughter off at school, had a day off yesterday,

836
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,280
do a few little bits and pieces. And after I

837
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,119
dropped my daughter off at school, I went and got

838
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,039
a coffee at a local shopping center. And I happened

839
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,480
to notice the person in front of me. Was this

840
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,000
this premiership winner? It might have been the rings that

841
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:06,880
were glittering away in the mirror. Anyway, we turned into

842
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,119
the shopping center. He too was getting a coffee, as

843
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:16,679
it turned out. And anyway, we're there and ten to

844
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,559
eight in the morning, So this shopping center is not

845
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,000
very busy at ten to eight in the morning. There's

846
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,840
a lot of parking spots. This player in his car

847
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:32,519
in front of me reverse parks into the car spot,

848
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:37,480
despite there being twenty car spots around him. He reversed parks.

849
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,519
It takes two minutes. I'm sitting there trying to par

850
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:43,960
I end up just parking. I'm ordering my coffee before

851
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,440
he's even out of his car. And you know how

852
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,639
I feel. Oh, I know about people reverse parking in

853
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,000
car parks. It is the great myth of all time

854
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,039
that it is more efficient, more safe. None of that's true.

855
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,320
And yet this player did it. He had to straight nap.

856
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,519
He's straightening up. There's no one near him. He could

857
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,239
have driven into this spot. And and look, as far

858
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,519
as I'm concerned, if this is the ship Ivan clear

859
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:11,840
he's running over there at I'm just disappointed.

860
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 3: This is goal. This is goal, and am I able to, like,

861
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,679
guess who this player was? Can I narrow it down somehow?

862
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: You could probably narrow it down.

863
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: Narrow it down by shopping center? Okay, catens, yes, Caden's corner. Okay,

864
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,840
does this person frequent Cadin's corner? Are you aware of Yeah?

865
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: I think so.

866
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been spotted there before, he has Okay, cool,

867
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:34,440
all right.

868
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm not going to name him. It's because embarrassing for him.

869
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,679
You know, he thinks that reversing is the best option,

870
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:43,400
you know, and it's just not. So I just wanted

871
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
to break that story with everyone and let everyone know

872
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,840
that it is not quicker. Not so the amount of

873
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:55,960
times Nathan that I'll park knows to the spot, and

874
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,480
I've seen someone else who's reverse parking and by the

875
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,760
time I am in the shop and they are still.

876
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:03,119
Speaker 3: They're still out of stuff around.

877
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,159
Speaker 2: This is why, this is why people say they've got

878
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:05,400
no time.

879
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,039
Speaker 3: Happens at the plaza all the time.

880
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: With you.

881
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: You can't reverse out of a car spot in a

882
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,039
car park. You shouldn't have you and your license back.

883
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,199
I agree, ridiculous all right now, quick one on Penis

884
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,159
Stadium and look, I feel like, similar to the board election,

885
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,920
we're the only ones that have been talking about this

886
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,199
for a considerable amount of time. But the roof has

887
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,960
gone up on the east has banned and a lot

888
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,880
of the wider rugby league community are now seeing what

889
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,599
this new Pena stadium they've all heard about is going

890
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:41,079
to look like. And there's a lot of criticism out

891
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:44,159
there of the state government saying that, you know, the

892
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Team U stadium is back in the in the conversation. Now,

893
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
what's interesting is I think there's two lines of thought here.

894
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,079
The state government is trying to argue, well, this roof,

895
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,400
which doesn't look like it would cover much more than

896
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,840
a big Bunnings umbrella in the in the rain, they're saying, well,

897
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,960
hey it covers I think it's fifty three percent I

898
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,519
think in the in the current structure, current documents, fifty

899
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,880
three percent of people in the eastern stand. So we

900
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,079
should be grateful because that's more than was previously coming. Yes, yes,

901
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,519
so that's there. That's going to be their line. We're

902
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,760
covering more people. Sure, But should we be building in

903
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,800
twenty twenty six a new grand stand at a sporting

904
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,920
venue that only covers half the people in the rain

905
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,239
like that?

906
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: No, come on, no, it's it's it's absolute. It's ridiculous.

907
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,639
It's absolutely ridiculous that they couldn't find the funds to

908
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,440
make that roof covery we go to combat now. We

909
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:44,679
hate going there. It's a beautiful stadium, brilliant.

910
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,639
Speaker 2: Love it.

911
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: We hate going there. But the one thing that Combank has,

912
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,599
and that was built what eight nine years ago now,

913
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,599
is is a roof that I'm pretty sure covers every

914
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,119
single seat in that stadium generally, yeah, generally, right, it's

915
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,880
designed too whether the rain coming in a certain direction,

916
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,360
you might get wet, but for the most part, it's

917
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,119
covering every single row. It may if not the first

918
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,440
who knows, but it's that's what it's designed to do.

919
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,840
So we've got this brand new stadium now ten years

920
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,719
later from you know, from when Combank was built or

921
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,159
Alians was built, and we are yeah, we've got this

922
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880
roof that we've seen overhead shots, bird's eye view shots,

923
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,280
side shots, and it's just covering half of that green stare. Now,

924
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,920
we don't know what's going to happen on the west

925
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:34,960
where obviously we sit Troy and we've sat for many years.

926
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,360
We sit in the back row of the West and

927
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,079
we're always covered. But what's going to happen on the

928
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:41,679
other side.

929
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: Now my concern is this is that, yes, that western side,

930
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,519
because the seats for the general public on that western

931
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:54,800
side are going to be lower. Yeah, Like, are we

932
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,639
going to go from a situation where you did have

933
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,840
people undercover to none of them general public undercover? Like,

934
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,679
we'll have to wait and see. But yes, look for

935
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,159
those out there who have been mounting who are just

936
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,760
finding this out. Yes, we've spoken about this for a while.

937
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,920
It never should have happened. Three hundred and nine million

938
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:21,239
in today's money was never going to build a quality stadium,

939
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,519
I shouldn't say quality, a stadium that was of extreme

940
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,480
comparison to a Combank you know that was never going

941
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,679
to happen. And I think once we reached the point,

942
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,159
to be honest with you, once we reached the point

943
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,840
where it was like, Okay, we're going to spend around

944
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,639
a nine million, We're going to keep the two hills.

945
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:41,599
We're not going to touch them at all. We're not

946
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:43,639
even going to landscape them as far as I'm aware,

947
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,199
and they're staying the way they were, So we're not

948
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,599
going to touch the two hills. We're going to replace

949
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:53,119
the two grand stands and increase the capacity by a

950
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:59,400
couple of thousand people all up, full stop. It should

951
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,639
have been hanging on. This just isn't right. This isn't

952
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,280
the time. Maybe in the future there'll be an opportunity

953
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,360
to build a five hundred million dollars stadium across the

954
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,360
road or something else, but this isn't the time. Hey,

955
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,440
we have a better option. Let's referb it for one

956
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,400
hundred million dollars or something like that, and you could

957
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,280
have fixed some of those issues that plagued, particularly that

958
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,199
Western stand in terms of facilities for particularly for the

959
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,800
women's teams that may come in because there was just

960
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,880
so much room in that West. They're getting rid of

961
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
the training field on Moga Road anyway, So they could

962
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:33,679
have used a lot of that space to improve facilities,

963
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,000
to improve whatever they wanted to improve. That was never

964
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,079
going to happen because I'm guessing in a situation like that,

965
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,039
it's never going to come under venues New South Wales

966
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:43,440
control or government control, which is kind of what they

967
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:48,880
probably wanted. We talked about the Panthers Board. Maybe maybe

968
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,840
the Panthers Board should have said no, and people probably

969
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,639
would have called them stupid. Maybe the NROLL would have

970
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,320
pressured them and said, hey, guys.

971
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: We're getting three outre nine million dollars a year.

972
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: You take it, you know. But yeah, Unfortunately I look

973
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:03,400
at it and I say, look, I'm sure that there'll

974
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,159
be stuff that we look at that's oh, that's awesome,

975
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:07,719
and that's great. But I think more broadly, we're going

976
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,719
to look at it and say, well, you know, it's

977
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,519
it's not much different to what we had previously, lost

978
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:16,000
a bit of its soul, no longer in Panthers control.

979
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: And we're all getting wet.

980
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: We're all getting wet. Half of us are getting wet,

981
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,760
half us getting wet. You know, Like this is what

982
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,719
I don't think the government is getting particularly when you

983
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,159
add the hills to the equation. More people are getting

984
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:30,559
wet in that stadium than are staying dry, Like.

985
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: That's extraordinary, twenty twenty six. It shouldn't happen.

986
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, We'll just keep getting called Nasayers and whatever else

987
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,119
we get called, or as tiber. The price is right,

988
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,039
get to win anything. I've yet to open up my

989
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:50,039
wallet and get the credit card out, because when we

990
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,639
play the price is right, Nathan of course has to

991
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:54,920
get it within fifty cents.

992
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, I love if you could, you could

993
00:48:58,159 --> 00:48:59,000
change that to a dollar.

994
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,559
Speaker 2: And we go through two items that are currently available

995
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,960
on either the Panther Shop or the NRL shop, and

996
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,960
Nathan has to get it right in terms of what

997
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,480
price they would be. So, Nathan, we are actually today

998
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,079
going into the women's.

999
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: Section, women's ok of the the pan ladies range.

1000
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: The ladies range, and what I've found here is the Panthers. Actually, no,

1001
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:33,039
that is not the Here we go, yep, the Panthers

1002
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Women's adult over die truck.

1003
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,199
Speaker 3: Pant Okay, so it's a women's trucksuit pants.

1004
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll explain it to you. Elevate your game

1005
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,719
day style with our panthers overde truck pant made from

1006
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,159
super soft brush fleece in a baggy and comfy fit

1007
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,000
that's easy to throw on and go. Now, it's got

1008
00:49:56,039 --> 00:50:00,400
a very functional draw cord elasticated waistband. Now, Nathan, I

1009
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,480
will say it's currently discounted because there's only one size

1010
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,599
still available, and that's a five xcel. I don't want

1011
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:10,760
to win this, so that's what you'll beginning if you

1012
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,400
If you win it five excel women's there's that oult

1013
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,000
over dry truck pants.

1014
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: So can you give us a price with and can

1015
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,320
you just this way? Do they have logos on there?

1016
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: Like what's's got the word panthers down the side in

1017
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,519
like a faint all right?

1018
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they don't look like they'd be that expensive.

1019
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,480
I'm going it's discounted.

1020
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: It is discounted at the moment. Yeah, probably because they've

1021
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,920
only got this one size.

1022
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to go eighteen dollars troy Ooh, it's twenty

1023
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,719
five bucks. Twenty five dollars.

1024
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: For the five excels.

1025
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm happy to miss out on that one.

1026
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: Unfortunately you do miss out on that one. All right,

1027
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,800
Well let me go now I'm moving over back into

1028
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,000
my favorite category, which is the accessories category on the

1029
00:50:59,159 --> 00:50:59,840
other Panthers.

1030
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 3: I like a good accessory, and what I have found today.

1031
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:09,199
Speaker 2: For you, Nathan, is the Panthers pomp Pom set. So

1032
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,559
get ready to cheer on your team with this vibrant

1033
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,960
set of Panthers theme pomp poms, perfect for sports day,

1034
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:18,159
dance routines, cheerleading events, or any celebration that calls for

1035
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:22,159
a burst of energy. Now, these cheerleading pompoms feature a

1036
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,199
practical plastic handle design that includes a comfortable set, a

1037
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,880
comfortable group. I should say. There's two pompoms in the set,

1038
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,599
and they're made of quality metallic material, shiny and durable.

1039
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,639
Speaker 3: Okay, Now these are the pompoms that the actual pantherreats

1040
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,800
would typically have.

1041
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:45,079
Speaker 2: I don't know if there are genuine pantherreatskay pompom, but yeah,

1042
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:46,400
they look pretty similar.

1043
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: And look pretty similar. Okay, yeah, okay, now look all right,

1044
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,000
that's a decent quality Pompoh it's a kid's one, though, well.

1045
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,559
Speaker 2: I think an adult could using a kid in the picture.

1046
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,559
Speaker 3: Okay, and you get two in the you get two

1047
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:03,039
in the pack. Okay, cool, I think I'm going to

1048
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,440
go with twenty dollars.

1049
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: For that, Nathan, you can get a bargain forteen ninety nine. Wow,

1050
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,360
ninety nine or if you remember, thirteen forty nine for

1051
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,800
some pomp poms. All right, so you failed again.

1052
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: That's okay. I didn't mind missing out on those two.

1053
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,239
I must again.

1054
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: You might end up with like a jersey or something

1055
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,360
when we continue on with the run.

1056
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: How much those are?

1057
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: We're going to continue at least until you win one

1058
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,559
or you win something. All right, all right, well that

1059
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:27,840
is it.

1060
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: Now.

1061
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: Next week we'll obviously be talking Vegas, but our main

1062
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,199
thing will be reviewing the Big Panther's Dinner on Saturday

1063
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,079
and night, the sixtieth anniversary dinner, so we'll review all

1064
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,039
the bits and pieces everything we spot.

1065
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,599
Speaker 3: So this is not going to be your typical season launch,

1066
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:48,119
because in the past they've been quite casual the season

1067
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:51,519
launches cocktail events. Stand up, this is a sit down.

1068
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: I reckon. There's more than an Arranchini ball happening.

1069
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: I think it's this is a full on Dealio.

1070
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: What says the dress code is formal?

1071
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,639
Speaker 3: Yes, we'll players are bringing their partners true. I think

1072
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,159
they would be, yes, because usually they don't come to this.

1073
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,559
Speaker 2: Occasion fresh from like ard over all the boys on

1074
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,599
the Friday night straight into this. But no, I think

1075
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,000
they'll be there. I think this will be the So.

1076
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: Would we get some debutings of some new partners, perhaps

1077
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,679
on the red carpet?

1078
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,079
Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah, I gotta admit I don't keep cross who's

1079
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,519
you know with people in the game. But I think

1080
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:22,800
Mitch Kenny is a new girlfriend.

1081
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: Well that's what I believe. Yes, so see she rocks up.

1082
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: See if she'll be there, And obviously there'll be no

1083
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,519
Mary Fowler.

1084
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: Nathan always flies solo to these events.

1085
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I imagine the day that you can finally

1086
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,159
bring Mary to her to a Panthers event. The cameras

1087
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,840
will go nuts. But yeah, we'll do that. And then

1088
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,079
the week after that we are into the the rough

1089
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,800
and tumble of the season because we'll have Vegas and

1090
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,519
then Round one Panthers Broncos game in a couple of

1091
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:51,840
weeks time. So there you go.

1092
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: Can't wait?

1093
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,559
Speaker 2: All right? Well that is it for Tension running High

1094
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,239
this week. New episodes are out every Wednesday. Visit Western Weekend,

1095
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,679
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1096
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,119
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1097
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:04,280
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1098
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,000
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1099
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,599
I'm Troy Dodds Nathan, thanks for joining me. Thanks Troy,

1100
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:12,360
and thanks to Pena City Automotive too for this sponsorship.

1101
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,519
Back on deck for another year, we'll see you next time.

1102
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,239
On tensions running high, Go the Panthers,