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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how are you? Come on in? Have a seat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Cliff, your host of Destiny, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing well today. We got a magical sacred art

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. We haven't talked at all, well, very

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<v Speaker 2>little about yoga. And yoga is one of these sacred

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<v Speaker 2>arts that I firmly believe comes from that early period

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<v Speaker 2>of the yogas, the Satya or the treat to yoga period,

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<v Speaker 2>because whoever designed and came up and formulated the details

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<v Speaker 2>of yoga understood the body down to a cellular level.

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<v Speaker 2>They have done tests on people who do yoga regularly

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<v Speaker 2>and discovered not only is there a huge benefit for

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<v Speaker 2>the circulatory system, the heart, the digestion, everything. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>wonder exercise. That's why it's so popular. It also it

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<v Speaker 2>also connects us to the brain, to the spirit, and

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<v Speaker 2>to the higher levels. After I do yoga, I feel really,

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<v Speaker 2>really good. If you ask somebody who does regularly or

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<v Speaker 2>who does yoga on a regular basis, how they feel

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<v Speaker 2>after they do a session, most people will say, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel amazing, I feel wonderful, and it's a it's really

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite unique in the way it is designed around

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<v Speaker 2>using the body's weight to anchor. I mean you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>things like downward dog, cat pose, lion pose, and these

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<v Speaker 2>different poses. Each of poe's that you perform has a

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<v Speaker 2>directed ad, a group of organs, a group of muscles,

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<v Speaker 2>even bone, and it's brilliant, you know. I before I

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<v Speaker 2>started reading about it in Great Lanths and this is

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, somebody told me that during the Maha Barata

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<v Speaker 2>Wars of India, and this is thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, they think that yoga's seven thousand years old.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually you know, if you think about satya or

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<v Speaker 2>treata yoga, that's one hundred thousand years ago. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course some of you are listening and going, no, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about one hundred thousand years Cliff, You

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<v Speaker 2>are out of your gourg. It's possible, and don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't discount anything anymore. I mean I had to consider

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<v Speaker 2>just how advanced yoga is. But anyhow, the story goes

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<v Speaker 2>that when they had these flying craft known as Vamana,

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<v Speaker 2>and they fight and the craft were passing through the

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere and the other planetary systems to our Cosmos. Yoga

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<v Speaker 2>was developed as a exercise of the pilots of the

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<v Speaker 2>crew so that they would get the needed exercise without

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<v Speaker 2>having to fly to a gravity based planet and get

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<v Speaker 2>out and stretch and run or whatever. So and of

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<v Speaker 2>course I don't know if that's true or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds plausible. It really does. Of course, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you are listening and going, here we go, here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. Come on, how nutty does Cliff Dunning get

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<v Speaker 2>on this show? Notice the quiet pause. No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's very, very advanced. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when we have people on the show talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Age, the gardener viten of the yogas satya and

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<v Speaker 2>the treta yoga systems, the Yuga periods, these Golden ages

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<v Speaker 2>are prime for yoga, for meditation, for even taichi, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's attributed to the Chinese, I think taichi

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those universal systems of moving energy through

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<v Speaker 2>and around the body. Well, yoga, yoga is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done tai chi. I'm sorry. Yoga by far is

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<v Speaker 2>more immediately beneficial, and I've done I've probably done it

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years and when I was just starting out,

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<v Speaker 2>I had chronic low back problems. I had sciatica. I

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<v Speaker 2>sat too much, and so I had compressed lumbar vertebra.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I started stretching and started doing the downward

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<v Speaker 2>dog and joining classes of others doing these exercises, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so good and it was relieved of such so

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<v Speaker 2>much strain and pain that yoga began to be my

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<v Speaker 2>healing tool. And so I reduced my visits to the

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<v Speaker 2>chiropractor almost in half, if not more. I'd go twice

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<v Speaker 2>a month, sometimes three times if I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pain. And so those of you who are sedentary,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's all types of yoga. There's you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it geriatrics yoga, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in your sixties, seventy eighties and beyond, you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually send in a chair and stretch your legs and

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<v Speaker 2>stretch your back and bend forward and just this amazing

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<v Speaker 2>stretching is such a benefit. And of course if you

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<v Speaker 2>are able to stand, and if you are able to

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<v Speaker 2>kneel and get down on a yoga mat or just

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor and do a few of the poses,

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<v Speaker 2>they are amazingly beneficial. So this is something we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today, and we're gonna go one step further.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about the meditative practice that is

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<v Speaker 2>carried out in a lot of different teachings to meditate

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<v Speaker 2>with mantras to prepare the day. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned is that you do your stretching first in

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<v Speaker 2>preparation for your meditation. So you unblock the arteries, you

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<v Speaker 2>unblock the the energetic super highway that runs through the body.

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<v Speaker 2>And you stretch and you release hormones, you release tension

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<v Speaker 2>or knots or whatever. You take a break, a couple,

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<v Speaker 2>have a glass of water, then you sit for your meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to tell you, wow, wow, wow, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something to really consider. So now, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>interested in considering yoga, I really recommend that you try

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<v Speaker 2>to go down to a local YMCA, YWCA gym fitness center,

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<v Speaker 2>private class, pay your three, four or five class tuition

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<v Speaker 2>for at least a month, and learn the basics. Learn

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<v Speaker 2>the basics with a teacher. So once you have those

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<v Speaker 2>basic poses in printing your brain, then you can keep

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<v Speaker 2>going to the courses, to the classes or And this

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<v Speaker 2>happened during the pandemic when you were not supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>gather together. You can develop your own ritual of stretching

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<v Speaker 2>when you first get up, followed by your short meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of my listeners are like, Cliff,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do that. I get up, have my coffee

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<v Speaker 2>rushed to work. Well, if you can begin incorporating yoga

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<v Speaker 2>and meditation, you're gonna do a couple of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing you're gonna do is you're going to begin

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<v Speaker 2>reversing aging processes. You're gonna start reversing physical problems throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the body. And as we age, it's tougher to recover,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tougher to heal, and we don't always have time

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the gym. But if you do yoga

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<v Speaker 2>every morning, it's a substitute some ways, not necessarily for

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<v Speaker 2>the weight training, although there are poses that you use

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<v Speaker 2>using your own body weight to practice various poses. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you are working in these yogic poses, you are

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<v Speaker 2>benefiting the body on numerous levels. So if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>get to the gym, at least you have the training

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<v Speaker 2>the very and you can learn it in a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps your teacher will also give you recommendations for

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<v Speaker 2>a book to hold on to as well. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not into groups, at least go and practice the basics,

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<v Speaker 2>just the basics. But it's also great to go to

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<v Speaker 2>fellowship in the community. When you're with others, you can

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<v Speaker 2>chat about you know, how you're feeling, how you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you develop fellowship. And that's also a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of the program of yoga. So today we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn about both aspects. That's the bio the brain, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the spirit of yoga. So today's program is the

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<v Speaker 2>Yogi's way transform your mind, health and reality. And my

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<v Speaker 2>a good one for you this week. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about yoga, we talk about the various ancient techniques

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<v Speaker 2>for wellness, and we haven't had anyone really present the

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<v Speaker 2>material on the program. And this week we have a

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<v Speaker 2>new author who has written a book called The Yogi's

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<v Speaker 2>Way Transform Your Mind, Health and Reality. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to look at it. It's a good one,

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<v Speaker 2>not only because it presents the basics of yoga, but

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<v Speaker 2>our author today also has studied Vedic texts and presents

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<v Speaker 2>details of that in the book. And as someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>meditated for a number of years, this is important to know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Roots of yoga, the roots of meditation, and it gives

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<v Speaker 2>us a sense of how old it is. So my

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<v Speaker 2>guest today, Rima Data, has learned yoga and are Veda

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<v Speaker 2>from her mother and her grandmother as well as her grandfather.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been teaching yoga for over twenty years. Right there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something to consider. And this new book is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a distillation of what she's been up to and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to learn more about it today. Sorima, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Destiny. Great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I got to get right to it. Why

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<v Speaker 2>this book, Why write all this material? And why did

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<v Speaker 2>you need to present it? And that's basically the fundamentals

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<v Speaker 2>of writing. But hey, tell us what it's all about

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<v Speaker 2>and why, you know, One reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I've traveled so much and taught yoga and throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Europe and Asia and North America. And one thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>noticed is that yoga it's almost equated with asena, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the physical postures, and it's almost like yoga and

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<v Speaker 1>asna have become synonyms. And the way I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with yoga, we did asina and that's a part of yoga,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a very powerful part of yoga. And I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend that everyone practices asina. And there's so much more

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<v Speaker 1>to yoga that I feel like is being lost, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not the awareness of the other dimensions of yoga.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really wanted to write a book to share

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<v Speaker 1>what those other aspects of yoga are and how to

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<v Speaker 1>integrate them into our practices and into our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us how you feel about the beginnings of yoga.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't really know where it came from. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk on this program about the yogas this ancient

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<v Speaker 2>system of mankind's dwelling on the earth, and there's these

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<v Speaker 2>very early golden ages of the Satya and the Trita

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<v Speaker 2>yoga period. Does it feel to you like this yoga

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<v Speaker 2>came from that time when we were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>living in this garden of Eden, and we were these

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<v Speaker 2>divine beings, and this was a practice that was perpetuated

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely feels like yoga came from a time when

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<v Speaker 1>people were very connected to nature and to the cosmic energies,

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<v Speaker 1>and their intention of their intention of the earth yogis

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<v Speaker 1>think they lived such quiet and you know, lives that

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<v Speaker 1>were grounded close to the earth that they were in sync. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they felt out of sync. They were like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here are some practices to get us back into harmony,

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<v Speaker 1>not just with our mind, body, and spirit, but with

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't it feel like yoga is really I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it's extremely advanced. It's like from another planet almost.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like somebody understood our physiology and the mind body

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<v Speaker 2>spirit connection that is brought forward. Talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what your feeling is and your understanding on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's amazing. I think even now, like science

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<v Speaker 1>is just catching up with the Yogis, Like they're supporting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Yogic wisdom how the mind, how the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and emotions affect our body and even our reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like even it's just science is just

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<v Speaker 1>brushing upon what a depth of understanding the Yogis had

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<v Speaker 1>of the subtle body, how our body is made of

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<v Speaker 1>subtle winds and the thoughts and emotions right on those winds,

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<v Speaker 1>and they affect our energy, they affect our health, they

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<v Speaker 1>affect the way we experience the world. And their knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of the subtle body was so profound. I think science

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<v Speaker 1>and still catching up, and I feel like for them

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<v Speaker 1>to have figured out what kind of thought patterns and

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<v Speaker 1>emotions affect what kind of parts of the subtle body

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<v Speaker 1>and the gross body, like they had to have such

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<v Speaker 1>a sharp awareness, you know. And I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the Yogis took themselves into deep meditative states,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they got meditative and receptive, they realize these teachings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we have hope that we can also

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<v Speaker 1>experience those states. But it's just so hard because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much distraction in our world now, there's so much activity.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the internet, or like, you know, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>actually like sit and be quiet and get that that

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<v Speaker 1>all of quiet tune and awareness of how how thought

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<v Speaker 1>not just like what we eat and how we exercise

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<v Speaker 1>affects our health, but even what kind of thought patterns

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<v Speaker 2>What have we lost by being so absorbed on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet and constantly looking at our phones and being distracted.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that do to us?

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like we're losing so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like not just adults, but even our children

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<v Speaker 1>and depression and jealousy. And it's like all these emotions

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<v Speaker 1>are gripping our minds and draining our energy. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Yogis knew that our thoughts and emotions have that potential,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also gave us these practices that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be gripped by these emotions. Like, of course

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to feel anxiety sometimes. Of course we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to feel sorrow sometimes. But there's a way to experience

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<v Speaker 1>those emotions and be in integrity and not brush them

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<v Speaker 1>aside or anything. Like be in our fullness and our wholeness,

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<v Speaker 1>but not get gripped by those emotions and still have

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper awareness of consciousness, you know, this deeper part

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<v Speaker 1>of ourselves in the world, which I feel that is

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<v Speaker 1>something we're losing because to really tap into consciousness, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the deepest and most powerful part of ourselves, a

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<v Speaker 1>really essential part of ourselves, does require quietness and practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're losing, like the ability to focus and

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<v Speaker 1>to have discipline because all these practices of the Yogis,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's meditation or mantra or praniama movement,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only powerful when we do it consistently, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like repetition, Like the neuro sciences are now saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have repetition to create the new neural pathways.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yogis was saying the same thing. To have the

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<v Speaker 1>new subscaas the new habits, there has to be consistency

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<v Speaker 1>and repetition, and that requires focus and discipline, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to have when it's like our minds are

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<v Speaker 1>on our phones and social media and every second is

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's really bad, it's really and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's been medical literature written on this. But it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like when we're constantly distracted, are constantly on our phones,

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<v Speaker 2>our mental faculties are damaged, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think science is proving that that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to focus diminishes so much. And science has

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<v Speaker 1>also shown us that the more we can focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the present moment, the happier we are. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a study that I mentioned in the book that even

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<v Speaker 1>when the mind is distracted by a happy thought or

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<v Speaker 1>a happy memory, we feel less content than if we're

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<v Speaker 1>just present in the moment, just like what all spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>traditions are teaching us, you know, to be present, to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the moment, not get gripped by the past

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<v Speaker 1>or concerns about the future. But I think the way

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<v Speaker 1>our society is today is becoming more and more difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's why it's becoming also more and

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<v Speaker 1>more important to be part of a community and practice together,

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise it's like we're so easily distracted and a

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<v Speaker 1>day goes by, two days go by, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like starting from scratch again. But communities, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they can really motivate us and keep us up with

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<v Speaker 1>our practices and then the journey becomes fun too. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be like a drag, like oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to sit and meditate and it's lonely or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's fun because we share our stories and

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<v Speaker 1>our breakthroughs and our breakdowns. And I think community is

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<v Speaker 1>just what it's like more. I mean, yoga was always

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<v Speaker 1>passed down in community, Like traditionally in the Vedic era,

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<v Speaker 1>they had schools for yoga, and all the students and

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers lived in the same vicinity and had each

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<v Speaker 1>other's support, So that was always part of passing down

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<v Speaker 1>the teachings. But I feel like now like we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this epidemic of loneliness and isolation and we're disconnected from

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<v Speaker 1>our ourselves and from each other. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>without community, I don't know if we can really get

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<v Speaker 1>that discipline and motivation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough though, because we've just finished with this pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>where we were forced to isolate. Yeah, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm one of them, of course, my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and it forces me to do stuff, but I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>reticent about going out and doing things because in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my mind, I'm like, Okay, who's sick now

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, well there's online communities you can Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Even that that's much better than

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<v Speaker 1>doing things on your own, you know, just to have

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<v Speaker 1>that accountability. It's like it's really I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the ancient use their wisdom was just mind blowing

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<v Speaker 1>because now we have the science. Like I was researching

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<v Speaker 1>for my book and found that people who have an

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<v Speaker 1>accountability partner are sixty five percent. They have a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent and success rate at creating change in their

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<v Speaker 1>life and reaching their goals. And those who have regular

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<v Speaker 1>check ins with their accountability partner, the success rate is

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who don't have an accountability partner ten percent success rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Rima, that's your next book, The Accountability Partner and

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<v Speaker 2>how to get one, because I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell you're talking about. I think what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>is finding a community and then you'll pair up with

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<v Speaker 2>people and that's your accountability or maybe the group. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it the group or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so the way we do it, like we have

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<v Speaker 1>a community and you know, we have a twelve week

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<v Speaker 1>course coming up, and so I'm encouraging people to either

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<v Speaker 1>sign up with a friend or they'll be paired with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. So you only have one accountability partner within

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<v Speaker 1>the community, and we call it matre. Like in Sanskrit

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<v Speaker 1>that's a is a friend, but it's like a very

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<v Speaker 1>special friend that protects you from harm, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>harms of the world, but the way we harm ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>through our own thoughts and words and actions and choices.

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<v Speaker 1>So with our Matra, we have even more chickens, not

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<v Speaker 1>just once a week, but we'll give our Metra our

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<v Speaker 1>phone number. And just like anytime we're where we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're sliding from our practices or we're going through

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing, whether it's a breakdown or a breakthrough,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have someone to share our experience with and

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<v Speaker 1>to vocalize it and in that way process it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a question like I did this practice and

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy thing happened, I don't get it, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>have someone to share your experiences with and in that

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<v Speaker 1>way process it and then you can it's your choice

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to bring it to the larger community

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but just to have that person that you

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<v Speaker 1>have a commitment you're sharing this commitment or X amount

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<v Speaker 1>of days. In our case, for this twelve week program,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do these daily practices. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do certain practices daily, certain practices once a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're on a journey together.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that a lot. Before we move forward,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you how did you get connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the musicians staying? Because he's all over the place

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a big hug. It's a photo you'll give

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<v Speaker 2>him giving you a big hug. I'm like, well, did

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<v Speaker 2>she give a class or something and he showed up?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it more he recommends your classes?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, years ago, I think it was two

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<v Speaker 1>you I was living in San Francisco. I had decided

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually working full time at a yoga studio

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<v Speaker 1>called It's Yoga and San Francisco, and I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>leave that studio. I had told my boss that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with yoga, and I just had this

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity of other spiritual traditions that I wanted, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity to go to Brazil and and so

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to leave that studio. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>a friend that I had went to Brazil with. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you should meet my friend Danny, Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>really he's a great yogi. He teaches yoga all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and he also is tapped into other spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, okay. So after I came back from Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>I call him Dairy Paradise, who's this amazing yogi and teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>And ended up he invited me to teach yoga with

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<v Speaker 1>him all over the world. Actually he was about to

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<v Speaker 1>I just left my job, so I said all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was Sting's first yoga teacher and Madonna and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Simon and you know rock stars, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>also one of the first traveling yoga teachers. Like now

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many traveling yoga teachers, but he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the pioneer of that. And so he brought yoga

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<v Speaker 1>you had to Sting, and then Sting brought it to

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<v Speaker 1>his bandmates, and you know, it spread like wildfire. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was a huge figure in that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when I was traveling with Danny, I met Sting

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<v Speaker 1>and then we would often meet him backstage for concerts

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<v Speaker 1>and he often does yoga right before he goes on stage. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's years he's been doing that, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he he has several yoga instructors he works with, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I became one of them, and you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>met him, I think it was two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>or five, and to this day where we're in touch

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll try to meet him as often as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you show up when he's in the area

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, go work together in some yoga?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, he Actually it was kind of amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Tallas about five years ago, and that summer

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<v Speaker 1>he did a concert in Taos, which was which was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mind boggling because he went do concerts in

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<v Speaker 1>small towns. So I met him backstage and we did

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<v Speaker 1>some practice together.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun for you, Yeah, so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Sometimes I travel to meet him and sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like in Tows he showed up and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fantastic. I want you to explain a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about the meditative aspects of yoga. I typically do the

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<v Speaker 2>physical because I've practiced yoga. Excuse me, meditation, uh to

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<v Speaker 2>another technique I use, but it is Indian. What is

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<v Speaker 2>the benefits and why is meditation part of the yoga system?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there's so many practices that are meant

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<v Speaker 1>to become to be meditative, you know, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>lead to just seated and silence and stillness. But the

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<v Speaker 1>I think what is special about what yoga brings to

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<v Speaker 1>meditation is this awareness that the body is made up

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<v Speaker 1>of these subtle winds and what affects the winds. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts, our emotions affect the winds more than our nutrition,

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<v Speaker 1>more more than the way we exercise, you know. Our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are so powerful. So there's a lot of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of how different thoughts affect different parts, different winds in

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<v Speaker 1>the body. So just for example, there's five major subtle

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<v Speaker 1>body winds. There's more, but there's five major ones. And

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<v Speaker 1>like the winds at the heart are affected by anger

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<v Speaker 1>and thoughts and emotions around anger, the winds that the

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<v Speaker 1>belly are affected by jealousy and confusion, and the winds

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<v Speaker 1>that the reproductive organs are affected by isolation and fear.

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<v Speaker 1>The winds that the throat are affected by attachment and

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<v Speaker 1>addiction and shame. And then there's vi ana value, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an all pervasive wind that's affected by anxiety. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we so meditator practices, it can be you know, breathwork,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the ancient practices. They often include awareness of

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts and like noticing what thoughts are harmful and

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<v Speaker 1>what thoughts create blocks and our subtle winds and what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thoughts are actually uplifting and loosen of the

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<v Speaker 1>subtle of the subtle body. And so the practices, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately they're about they're about recognizing that we have blocks

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<v Speaker 1>in the body and we have blocks in the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do we work at the level of our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and emotions and breath and awareness to loosen those knots.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, in Sanskrit, those knots are called grunties,

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<v Speaker 1>which literally it translates to very difficult knots to untie,

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why we have practices with breath of movement,

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<v Speaker 1>of working with our thoughts of you know, healing our

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<v Speaker 1>emotional wounds, like, because those knots are so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>so difficult to untie that. It's like we work from

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<v Speaker 1>the inner body, like from the inside out through our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and emotions, and we also work from the outside

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<v Speaker 1>in with our breath and our movement. So it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>like for it to really work, for us to really

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<v Speaker 1>loosen the knots, we we have this like holistic approach.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a short commercial break to allow our

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<v Speaker 2>sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with

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<v Speaker 2>my guest today, Rima Data, discussing her new book, The

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<v Speaker 2>Yogi's Way. We'll be right back. My guest today is

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<v Speaker 2>Rima Data. She is really the new book on yoga

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<v Speaker 2>called The Yogi's Way, Transform Your Mind, Health and Reality.

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<v Speaker 2>She has been teaching for over twenty years and has

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<v Speaker 2>developed a system based on the ancient sanscript Vedic texts

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<v Speaker 2>from ancient India. And in your practice and how you teach,

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<v Speaker 2>do you open the class with a short meditation followed

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<v Speaker 2>by the actual postures or how do you how do

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<v Speaker 2>you work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? You know what I started to do as I

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<v Speaker 1>was creating the content for this book. I it's flayed

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<v Speaker 1>in the book. How you know a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>approach was born out of my own. I went through

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult time in my life, and I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>overcome with anger and attack.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the beauty of the book, though it's a hard

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<v Speaker 2>times to glory times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I felt disconnected from these deeper teachings of yoga,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I felt like and then I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't the only one who was dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>mental turmoil and having a hard time getting a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of my mind, because I saw it all around me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then we know the statistics like anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and depression, it's just skyrocketing right now. So I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to the texts and really studied this wisdom and

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<v Speaker 1>was and just continued to be kind of shocked that

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<v Speaker 1>it's so lacking in the mainstream yoga world and in

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<v Speaker 1>the dissemination of yoga today, you know, because again it's

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<v Speaker 1>mostly the physical aspect. So so I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>those teachings and what I started to do is I noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how I was mentioning how certain emotions affect

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<v Speaker 1>certain winds, and then that affects that that leads to

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<v Speaker 1>certain diseases and balance is so I I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the backup of these ancient teachings. I started to

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<v Speaker 1>create a yoga sequence for each emotion, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling afflicted with anger, then you can do this sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>And each sequence has a meditation, a breath practice, a

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<v Speaker 1>movement practice, a visualization practice, a mantra, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like focused on the emotion and in Sunsprit

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<v Speaker 1>we call it a clasia. Claysia is like a harmful

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<v Speaker 1>thought or emotion and anger, attachment, anxiety, shame, those are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the big ones. Fear, so the and so

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<v Speaker 1>what I started to do when I teach, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, okay, today we're working with this emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how it affects the subtle body. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the types of illnesses or imbalances it can lead in

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<v Speaker 1>our physical body. And we're going to go through this

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<v Speaker 1>specific set of movement and breath work and meditation and

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<v Speaker 1>visualization and mantreat to work with this particular clasia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the clachias are kind of the foundation of your book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really like that you brought them out because

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<v Speaker 2>these are serious issues. If you are not resolving your cliches,

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<v Speaker 2>it can cause disease. Right, So give us first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>describe what it is I think you just gave us

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of what the description is, but what are

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<v Speaker 2>they specifically and how do they come up in our system?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so the definition of clacia in the yoga texts

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<v Speaker 1>the sensor texts is a mind poison or a destructive emotion,

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<v Speaker 1>And those are strong words, but it yeah telling of

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<v Speaker 1>how well the Yogis knew about the power of our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts that they can literally destroy our health, which science

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<v Speaker 1>is showing us. Now you know certain thoughts can be

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<v Speaker 1>harmful and and emotions, you know that is trickier to

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<v Speaker 1>look at. But to be clear, what the teachings are

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<v Speaker 1>in the text is that no emotion is a good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad in and of itself, Like there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with feeling anger, or there's nothing wrong with feeling fear,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just a natural part of being human. But

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<v Speaker 1>whether our emotions become something wholesome that leads to healing

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<v Speaker 1>or something harmful that leads to a disease depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how we experience and express them. Right, So in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>emotions are not intrinsically good or bad, but it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on like do we have the tools and the practices

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<v Speaker 1>to experience them and constructive beneficial ways, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, giving practices for that in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's so oor clacias. Clacia is the word when

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions and thoughts become harmful. You know, if we

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<v Speaker 1>experience anger and we just understand that that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>being human and there's a message behind this anger, there's

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<v Speaker 1>I can catch the energy of the anger and use

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that's useful. It's not a clachia.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just describe the resolution of it. So you

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that you're angry about something and you just can't

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<v Speaker 2>see straight because you're so angry. And then by recognizing,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I'm angry and I'm angry about this,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're doing some self therapy, is what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, you know, I can be angry that there's

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<v Speaker 1>violence in my community and it just really pisses me off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, I have a daughter. I want

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<v Speaker 1>her to be safe, you know, So instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in my house and just brewing on this anger

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<v Speaker 1>and it's creating notts in my body, I can recognize, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my daughter's safe is important to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to connect community. I'm going to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to work with some people figure out solutions

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<v Speaker 1>to this problem. And then all of a sudden, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using that energy behind the anger in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>helpful instead of in a way that's harm harming mostly myself, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm the one who's creating notts within. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>like how an emotion isn't really good or bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's how we experience it, how we express it. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the emotion becomes something that we're not processing well

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<v Speaker 1>and that's creating nots, then it becomes a clacia. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a poison in our body, and it's creating

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<v Speaker 1>blocks in the body which can lead to illness and

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<v Speaker 1>imbalance and disease.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love this because you are working with these

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<v Speaker 2>cliches by acknowledging them, doing a meditation with the mantra,

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<v Speaker 2>and then physically doing your your poses to release it mind, body,

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit. Is do I got that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? All of that because it's that's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring. What through this book is just saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yoga really is holistic, like we have to

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<v Speaker 1>approach it from all these angles. If we're just doing

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<v Speaker 1>the movement or we're just doing the meditation, we might

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<v Speaker 1>not actually get to the roots of our blocks and

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<v Speaker 1>our wounds and have like lasting healing and growth. Because

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, and all of us experience, like we

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<v Speaker 1>do a yoga class, whether it's movement or meditation, and

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<v Speaker 1>we feel so good after, Like they're powerful practices. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, after traveling so much and talking to people,

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<v Speaker 1>but people would come to me and they would say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I do yoga and I feel peace for like twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But that that peace and freedom that's written in the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient texts, that like not many people are experiencing that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like a lasting piece. It's like a piece

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<v Speaker 1>that no matter what's going on in our inner world

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<v Speaker 1>or outer world, we're like rooted in this okayeness, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can bring that piece to our surroundings. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's become rare. And I feel like that does

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<v Speaker 1>require a holistic practice. You know, we're working on all

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<v Speaker 1>these different layers of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. In your research for your book,

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<v Speaker 2>did you discover that the Sanskrit passages of ading passages

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<v Speaker 2>give examples of these class and people having these problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very like in the Yoga sutras, it

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<v Speaker 1>lays it out very clearly that they identify five major

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<v Speaker 1>cliches which are anger, attachment, fear mostly fear of death.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the other ones? Pride or feeling of separation

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<v Speaker 1>between self and other and then the other biggest cliche's

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<v Speaker 1>delusion like illusion, illusion like thinking that you're separate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking that the divine doesn't live within you, powerless.

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<v Speaker 2>You're totally disattached.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to be you know, detached from that that wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>and that that those eternal truths that we are connected,

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<v Speaker 1>what science is telling us now that we are all interconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>we're part of one big energy field. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>delusion when you when you live not in accordance with

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<v Speaker 1>those eternal truths.

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<v Speaker 2>This do do another emotional uh problem that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have, which is depression. Yeah, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how you would go about processing that emotion. What would

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<v Speaker 2>you recommend?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would like contemplation and journaling are huge

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the journey, So I would recommend writing about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like getting try to get clear on like what is

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<v Speaker 1>causing the depression, Like where did it start? How is

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<v Speaker 1>it deepening? What what am I experiencing in my body

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<v Speaker 1>and my mind, my heart when when I'm feeling afflicted

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<v Speaker 1>with the depression, and then doing a certain certain breath

643
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<v Speaker 1>works that are uplifting, you know, Like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>praniama practices, they each have different effects, you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>for depression, I would probably recommend like a faster like

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<v Speaker 1>a bastrika kabati where you're doing more like rapid breaths

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<v Speaker 1>that are uplifting and energizing and.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you call it the shan asanas as excuse me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you're doing with this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's funny. I'm the breathwork is pranyamayah and then

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<v Speaker 1>the asna is the postures. And depression really affects vian

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<v Speaker 1>a value, which is the full body. So doing any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of movement is great for depression. So a movement

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<v Speaker 1>practice that's touching upon all parts of the body would

655
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<v Speaker 1>be good for depression. Then nurturing yourself with rest and

656
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<v Speaker 1>good food, nutritious food, good community. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>practices that I offer for depression is actually service, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of your mind a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>distract yourself in a good way through service by getting

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed and giving to someone rather than like letting the

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<v Speaker 1>mind ruminate about what is causing the depression and.

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<v Speaker 2>Services that it's fantastic. In the book, your book, Yogi's Way,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the twelve pillars of the Yogi's Way. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the twelve pillars? Talk about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the twelve pillars. One is community ar matras,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mentioned breath, you know, to expyand our energy

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<v Speaker 1>through breath. The third is healthy thoughts to recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts that are harming yourself and others and to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in practices to create new habits a positive thinking. Another

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<v Speaker 1>is mantra mantras. A lot of manthras are like affirmations,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we have the habit to being down

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<v Speaker 1>on ourselves and thinking like I'm stupid, I'm incapable, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of manthras are very uplifting, like giving us

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<v Speaker 1>the message that I am powerful, I am capable, I'm strong,

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<v Speaker 1>i am pure, I can you know, I can face

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<v Speaker 1>my challenges. I can overcome my challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me stop you real quickly, Rima. Are you suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that we can use lautras in our meditation. Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's what I use mind for but mine's just

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<v Speaker 2>a sound that helps me harmonize. So you're suggesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>they feel almost like affirmations in the form of a mantra.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot more about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you can also do mantras while you're folding

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<v Speaker 1>her laundry or doing the dishes or driving, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like that's I mean. I speak about my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother in the book, and her main practice was mantra.

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<v Speaker 1>But she she had mantras in her mind all day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, while she's cooking, grocery, shopping, sewing clothes for

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<v Speaker 1>her daughters, you know. And so there's like and I

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<v Speaker 1>write about how her life was very challenging. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of oppression and patriarchy that she dealt with,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had so much in her joy and like

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<v Speaker 1>this like unshakable peace, and it came from those mantras,

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<v Speaker 1>like just constantly having them moving through her mind. She

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<v Speaker 1>had so much resilience, you know. So the mantras are

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<v Speaker 1>very powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about how that would work because I think our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners are like, what I'm just talking about something, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, what's she talking about? Give us the

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<v Speaker 2>meat and potatoes of it, because I can't explain how

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<v Speaker 2>the mantra works for me because I remember when I

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was like eighteen or something and I

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<v Speaker 2>was given my mantra, and the first time I did

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<v Speaker 2>a meditation, I went so deep. It kind of scared

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<v Speaker 2>me because I wasn't asleep, but I was deeply altered.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>how a sound repeated can change us.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I'll mention the mantra that I introduced in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is so hum and there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>layers to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's only ten thousand years old, Clerk, it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is another example of how in tune the

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<v Speaker 1>Yogis were because they've found that and they I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say one of the basic teachings in the Vedas, the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest yoga scripture, they say, don't believe anything until you

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<v Speaker 1>experience it yourself. So these practices are totally non dogmatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like reiterated in the Upani sheds and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the Yogic wisdom texts. Only believe what you experience directly.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the purpose of all the practices is again, loosen

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<v Speaker 1>the knots in your body and in your mind. Why

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can have a direct experience of what

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<v Speaker 1>lies inside of you, you know. So it doesn't on

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<v Speaker 1>one level, it doesn't even matter what anyone says. It's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have the seeds of the potential of the practices,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like only believe what you experience. So even

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm about to say about so hum, the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>yogis they they were so in tune that they found

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<v Speaker 1>that the vibration of the inhale is so and the

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<v Speaker 1>vibration of the exhale is hum. So they said, when

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<v Speaker 1>you meditate, when you do a breath meditation, you can

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<v Speaker 1>add this layer of mantra with your meditation. So with

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<v Speaker 1>the inhale, hum, with the x hill, and another layer

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<v Speaker 1>of that is in Sanskrit, So comes from the root

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<v Speaker 1>verb sa, which means to be, to have to have agency,

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<v Speaker 1>and hum means to let go, to release, to yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to let go of. And so with every inhale sake.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the inhale, you're connecting with your inner power,

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<v Speaker 1>with your possibility that lies within. And with every exhale

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<v Speaker 1>you're letting go of what you don't mean that's inside

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<v Speaker 1>of you. And and but even if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that that meaning, just you know, meditating with the breath

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<v Speaker 1>and tapping into the vibration of soul and hum can

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<v Speaker 1>put you into an altered state.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're thinking it in your mind, So hum

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<v Speaker 2>so and relaxing and breathing, and you're shifting. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you're suggesting that we're begining to shift by using those mantras.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so with the inhale and hum with the x

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<v Speaker 1>him and another layer of that meaning of so hum

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<v Speaker 1>is I am that. So I have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually agree with how even the definition of

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<v Speaker 1>yoga that's mainstream now, which is union and mind, body

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<v Speaker 1>and spirit. Like we do align mind, body and spirit

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<v Speaker 1>and yoga. But I feel when I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient texts, the meaning of yoga is very clear that

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<v Speaker 1>it's union with your soul or union with consciousness, your

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<v Speaker 1>innermost being. And we work with the mind and body,

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<v Speaker 1>like we loosen the knots in the mind and body

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<v Speaker 1>so we can connect with our soul or consciousness or

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest part of ourselves. But really the meaning of

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<v Speaker 1>yoga's union with soul or union with consciousness. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that and what's so hum getting back to the mantra. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also means I am that which is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that I am not my body, which is constantly changing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not my mind, which is full of thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>emotions that are constantly changing. I am that. I am

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<v Speaker 1>that infinite consciousness, you know, that infinite field of possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I truly am. So soham means that I

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<v Speaker 1>am that. And if you're meditating and your mind gets

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<v Speaker 1>gripped by the paw to the future, you can come

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<v Speaker 1>back to that monthra. So I'm not that thought, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that fear about the future. That I am that

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<v Speaker 1>infinite consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. We're going to take a short commercial

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<v Speaker 2>break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will return shortly with my guest today, Rima Data, discussing

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<v Speaker 2>her new book, The Yogi's Way. Will return shortly. Today's

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<v Speaker 2>author is Rima Data. She is the author of The

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<v Speaker 2>Yogi's Way. Brand new book just came out and it's

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<v Speaker 2>available on Amazon. This is really a good text for

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who are interested in yoga, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beginner's guide to addressing the ancient wisdom of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hindus and the Vedic text. You're a Yogi sage, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been practicing and learning. Is the use of a mantra

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<v Speaker 2>as you're within a pose recommended or is that post

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be the aftermath of the meditation?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the pose leads to meditation, you know. So the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the pose on one level is to get

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<v Speaker 1>the body open and comfortable enough to sit and meditate,

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<v Speaker 1>because sitting in like we get fidgety, the legs are

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<v Speaker 1>we just pain that pain right, then that like, if

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<v Speaker 1>the body is open and you know, centered and grounded,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole purpose originally of usna was to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to sit and meditate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so the poses are the prelude to the actual

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<v Speaker 2>deep meditation, So they kind of prepare the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and mantras are also. It's all kind of a preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>Breath work, mantra, it's all a preparation to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to sit in quietness, because when we're sitting and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just quiet, that's when we can really connect with consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>and con rciousness. Is this like vast, like infinite field

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<v Speaker 1>of possibility as we say, it's like the underlying reality,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me, it's very interesting that quantum physicists are

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing. They're saying, behind every person, behind

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<v Speaker 1>every object is just a field of pure potentiality, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're ninety nine every object, including each of us, we're

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent empty space, and so we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be attached to any label, right Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up thinking I am stupid, like that's just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually nine nine zero point nine percent empty space like

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<v Speaker 1>pure potential. So I can change that thought I'm stupid

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<v Speaker 1>to I am brilliant, you know, And we start to

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<v Speaker 1>experience what our mind dwells on. We experience like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a teaching from the Vedas.

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<v Speaker 2>You touched on the divine. When we meditate with these mantras,

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<v Speaker 2>are we automatic connecting to the divine? Or is it

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<v Speaker 2>a process where we step by step release, unfold and

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<v Speaker 2>evolve and then at some level, I'm connecting with universal mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that means. Universal mind. I think

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<v Speaker 2>off the top of my head, I think of the

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<v Speaker 2>Akashik records that everyone talks about, this universal library of

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<v Speaker 2>data that I have a question. Oh, I'm downloading it now,

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<v Speaker 2>but what's your what's your explanation?

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<v Speaker 1>For that, I think it depends on the person and

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<v Speaker 1>where they where they are, you know, like for some

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<v Speaker 1>people mantras can be tools to loosen knots and blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and for some people who are more open, the mantra

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<v Speaker 1>can just directly connect you to the divine and to

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<v Speaker 1>pure consciousness, which like you know, maybe that what did

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<v Speaker 1>you call universal mind? Yeah, I think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>pure consciousness. That's kind of the Yogic term for this

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<v Speaker 1>dimension that's within us and around us, that's just vast

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<v Speaker 1>and eternal and infinite and quiet. And when we're when

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<v Speaker 1>we can rest our mind on consciousness, that quietness and

835
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that vastness, we can connect to wisdom, and we can

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00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>gain insights and we can even heal because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a source of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of moving a little h into heart

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<v Speaker 2>edge stuff, Rima, I'm kind of I'm asking you, like Rema,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to download a new musical piece. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to download, you know, not that I want to do that,

842
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's far like and I hear there's people on

843
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>my shoulder thinking, you know, can I get can I

844
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:51.639
<v Speaker 2>connect with Tesla or connect you know, I'm not going

845
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:58.119
<v Speaker 2>that far, but you know, what level can we gain

846
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 2>from this practice? Because I keep thinking, you know that

847
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the ancients who invented this stuff were really aware of

848
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<v Speaker 2>universal mind.

849
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it's a great question because in the

850
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<v Speaker 1>text they talk about Sidney's like, if we really get

851
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>clear and open, if we really loosen all those grunt thies,

852
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 1>those knots, we can start experiencing Siddy's which is like

853
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 1>clairvoyant's bilepathy. Remote viewing, so maybe you can actually connect

854
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<v Speaker 1>with Tesla or like whatever, you know, because that's what

855
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 1>remote viewing is. And it's fascinating to me that, you know,

856
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the American government has spent billions of dollars researching remote viewing, yes,

857
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the CIA, and you know, you for intelligence purposes, but

858
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<v Speaker 1>also to explore consciousness. So I mean, I think that's

859
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>what it can lead to. Yeah, but yeah, sorry.

860
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.519
<v Speaker 2>So go ahead, I want you to finish. And here's

861
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<v Speaker 2>the secret to talking to Tesla.

862
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, But since there's that potential, at the very least,

863
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we can experience peace of mind, you know, and just

864
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.559
<v Speaker 1>calm and stability, which is huguis in a world where

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<v Speaker 1>so many people are suffering with anxiety and depression and stress.

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00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think what you're saying, and this is

867
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<v Speaker 2>an important message I think you're passing on to us,

868
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 2>is that because of the complexity of our world right now,

869
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:35.679
<v Speaker 2>unseen energy wi fi people who are upsetting to us

870
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 2>cause trauma. The more important thing is to have the vessel,

871
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 2>the body in harmony with the universal forms of energy

872
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 2>and nature. And this is what we do with these

873
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 2>mantras and with these poses. That's the key. If you're

874
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>then if you're a pure soul, then asks Tesla, what's

875
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah?

877
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that kind of the message?

878
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's more important than ever for us

879
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 1>to you know, find alignment within ourselves, take care of ourselves,

880
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>nurture ourselves, change harmful patterns, not just for ourselves, but

881
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.880
<v Speaker 1>just knowing that so many people around us are suffering

882
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and we could become a healing force, you know, for

883
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 1>our surroundings, like not just the people, but the environment.

884
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And because that's you know, one of the teachings of

885
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>ancient yoga that's also seen throughout the world is that

886
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 1>we our energies affect each other and the and the

887
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>larger unit that we're all a part of. So even

888
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 1>if you're like, oh, well, I'm fine, you know, I

889
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>have peace of mind, my body's healthy. It's just it's

890
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 1>good for us to remember that we don't actually do

891
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 1>these practices just for ourselves, like for our own peace

892
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 1>of mind, our own physical health, but we do it

893
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to create a vibration that helped the whole.

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01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's important. So you're talking about being a beacon,

895
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a stable force for the for the collective.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're suggesting, And it's really important, you know.

897
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 1>In the in the text, it's emphasized to have that motivation,

898
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and they actually say when you have a motivation to practice,

899
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the benefit of all, then the universe

900
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 1>supports you. It's like you're blessed. Your practice is blessed.

901
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You are blessed, and you'll be able to practice daily,

902
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, because even like it's almost a luxury right

903
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to have a daily practice and to carve out time

904
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 1>every day for your practices, but you'll have that blessing

905
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to be able to practice when you have that bigger motivation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is amazing what you're saying. This is

907
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 2>just exactly the genius of the Vedas is that through

908
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>practice you open space and actually you're creating your own reality. Yeah,

909
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 2>of betterment, right, absolutely? Yeah, can you talk a little

910
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 2>bit about reality creation through the vessel of yoga.

911
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 1>So it again comes back to our thoughts, like all

912
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 1>of these teachings about how powerful our thoughts are, and

913
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the Yogis would they explain how every time we have

914
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a thought, it's like planting a seed in the mind, right,

915
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and what happens with seeds Someday they sprout, right, and

916
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 1>so the world. The Yogis would say the same thing

917
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 1>as the quantum physicists, that the world is a field

918
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 1>of pure potentiality. But the way that we experience the

919
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 1>world is based on the seeds in the mind that

920
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:50.519
<v Speaker 1>come from our own thoughts, you know, And so so

921
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 1>as those seeds sprout, they color our reality. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I have these thoughts that you know, everyone is cruel

923
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm cruel to people, and I'm going to be

924
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to live in a world where everyone's cruel

925
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 1>to each other. But if I really do my best

926
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to be kind and my thoughts and my words and

927
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.920
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts not just my words and actions, but even

928
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts, then all of a sudden, I'm living in

929
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a world where I just see kindness everywhere you know,

930
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and then that snowballs and expands. But the basic teaching

931
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 1>is that the world is actually empty of any fixed

932
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.679
<v Speaker 1>quality or characteristic, and even you and I are empty

933
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of any fixed quality or characteristic. But the way we

934
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:41.599
<v Speaker 1>experience ourselves, other people, the world itself comes from the

935
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 1>seeds in our minds. And a lot of us have

936
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:50.199
<v Speaker 1>experienced trauma, and you know, some of the seeds are painful.

937
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:55.320
<v Speaker 1>But what the Yogis emphasize is that as traumatic as

938
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 1>anything has been, like we have, we can change those seeds,

939
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.960
<v Speaker 1>we can plant new seeds, and we can create a

940
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.360
<v Speaker 1>new reality, a new personal reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you read in these scriptures about resonate, resonating at

942
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 2>certain frequencies, you know, being your pure self. The best

943
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.960
<v Speaker 2>way to do it is through these practices and clearing

944
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>out traumas and clearing out crap so that you're a

945
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you're resonating a certain frequency for and opening to the

946
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 2>ability to create the world that you want. It might

947
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 2>be a little metaphysical, but I'm just wondering what your

948
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 2>feelings are.

949
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the texts say that we are inseparable from

950
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 1>the divine, So it's like if the if the divine

951
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was the sun, then we're like sun rays, you know,

952
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.960
<v Speaker 1>we're inseparable from it, and we are made of the

953
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 1>same essence. The divine is like pure potential again, the

954
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 1>field of infinite possibility, and so are we. So when

955
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we get into tune and alignment and vibrate with the

956
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 1>frequency without all those knots and blocks, then we can

957
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 1>experience ourselves as that infinite being, and then we really

958
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>tap into the gifts we were born to give and

959
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 1>nurture those gifts and give them because again it's about

960
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the practice. Is it not about getting anything you know

961
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.280
<v Speaker 1>from the world, but it's about getting into such a

962
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 1>beautiful alignment that we can connect. We can discover what

963
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 1>our gifts are, and we can nurture them, and then

964
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 1>we can actually give them. And that's where the peace

965
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and happiness and fulfillment come from.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing that that's wonderful about what you're saying, Rima,

967
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.679
<v Speaker 2>is that we're connecting with the soul, and the soul

968
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<v Speaker 2>is the higher wisdom, the higher self that had a

969
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:52.480
<v Speaker 2>plan in place when you incarnated, right, So when you're

970
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:57.440
<v Speaker 2>clear and pure and trauma free, you're able to connect

971
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:03.719
<v Speaker 2>with that soul level existence, which is you know, you're

972
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:08.599
<v Speaker 2>a pretty cool person, male or female.

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01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at the sole level, we're cool definitely. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a story because all of these teachings

975
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I've learned because at some point or another, I forgot myself,

976
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I mentioned in the book that I

977
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 1>learned yoga initially from my grandparents. Yeah, tell you. Like

978
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I after one year of teaching yoga, which was like

979
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.840
<v Speaker 1>around two thousand and three, I went to India to

980
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.559
<v Speaker 1>visit my grandfather, and I was so happy. I was

981
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:41.760
<v Speaker 1>so excited to tell him that I had like quit

982
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 1>my job and started teaching yoga. And I and so

983
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I went to the village where he lived and I

984
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 1>and I called him Bapuji, and I said, Bapage, I'm

985
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 1>so happy, like I quit my job. I'm teaching yoga

986
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 1>full time. I'm practicing. I was like, so, I've never

987
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>been so strong and my body I feel so good.

988
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And then he turned to me and he was like angry.

989
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 1>He was really upset, and he said, Rieman, this is

990
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:15.239
<v Speaker 1>not about you. He said service. He took his two hands.

991
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>He said service and spiritual. Spirituality and service go hand

992
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 1>in hand. We do yoga for others.

993
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, what did I do?

994
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Like? Oh man, So it's like, you know, we forget.

995
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying we forget. There's so much to it.

996
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 1>There's so much depth, and yoga feels so good that

997
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing this so I have

998
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 1>more energy to give.

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01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.599
<v Speaker 2>So decipher that a little bit. He was angry that

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01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.719
<v Speaker 2>you had quit your job or no, you're ecstatic about

1001
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 2>what you were doing but for the wrong reasons.

1002
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was. He was totally fine that I quit

1003
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.280
<v Speaker 1>my job and was teaching yoga. But it was more

1004
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.280
<v Speaker 1>my Yeah that I was just thinking about myself that

1005
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:04.079
<v Speaker 1>I feel.

1006
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Goodlffish you selfish?

1007
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, he was like me and feeling good. This

1008
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<v Speaker 1>is about giving.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, as we conclude, I want you to

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01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 2>talk about this book and the twelve. Basically you break

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01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:25.399
<v Speaker 2>it into twelve weeks of practice and without we don't

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01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 2>have time to go through every week. But the purpose

1013
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:31.319
<v Speaker 2>of that is for to do what from week one

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01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.399
<v Speaker 2>to week twelve? How did you why did you design

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01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 2>it like that? And what is your expected results for

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01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the practitioner.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to give people by the end of

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01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the book, you have a seventy minute practice that you

1019
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 1>can do it on your own at home if you like.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a holistic practice, So I was I wanted

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01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to give people a practice that they could do on

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01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.720
<v Speaker 1>their own and their home, and that is holistic that

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01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 1>incorporates meditation, visualization, mantre movement, subtle body awareness and understanding

1024
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of how thoughts and emotions affect the inner winds, and

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<v Speaker 1>also like journaling and awareness practices, how to actually change

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01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>our thoughts, Like, once we realize how certain thoughts are

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01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 1>creating harm, how can we actually change them? And not

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01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 1>just for a moment, but like, how can we actually

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01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 1>lead to lasting change? So that was the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve weeks, to give at least a feeling for

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<v Speaker 1>all those pillars, visualization, meditation, breathwork, all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you design the book for the beginner, for

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<v Speaker 2>the intermediate, or for the advanced user.

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<v Speaker 1>I designed it for a beginner that anyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have a background in yoga, that

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<v Speaker 1>you can pick it up and get a practice from.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also designed it for you know, seasoned teachers

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<v Speaker 1>who haven't been exposed to these other dimensions of yoga,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can bring it into their practice into

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01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 1>their teachings. So it's it's it can be good for beginners,

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01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and if any beginners are having find it difficult, then

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<v Speaker 1>they can always join our online community because we go

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<v Speaker 1>through the practices as a community. I do twelve week

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<v Speaker 1>courses where we go through the book together.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, so they can are you on Zoom or another

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<v Speaker 2>video channel.

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<v Speaker 1>We do the classes on Zoom, but all the information

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01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is on my website and I'm actually starting a twelve

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01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.880
<v Speaker 1>week journey March sixteenth, so if anyone would like to

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01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:45.920
<v Speaker 1>hop on to that community.

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<v Speaker 2>So the book's called The Yoga's Way, excuse me, the

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01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.760
<v Speaker 2>yugas the Yogi's Way transform your mind, health and reality.

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<v Speaker 2>And my guest has been Rima Data. Give us your

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01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.399
<v Speaker 2>web dress how people can get a hold of you,

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01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 2>and you just give us your twelve week program, so

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01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, give us the details.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the easiest is to go on to Rima

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01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.039
<v Speaker 1>yoga dot com, r E E m a yoga dot

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01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 1>com and then that'll have all the information about the

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01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.199
<v Speaker 1>book and the twelve week course And if anyone's interested

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01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in teacher trainings, then that's also. Rema Yoga is also

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01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 1>my Instagram and social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, and that's fantastic. What do you want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>us with, Rema, What's what are you feeling about where

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01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 2>we're at right now? As as I'm talking about Western culture,

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01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 2>not the world, what's happening with us in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think like yoga has helped so many

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01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 1>people with their physical health, but I feel like peace,

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01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 1>like in our peace has become something very rare. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want people to know that, like, whatever

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01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you've been through and whatever craziness is going on in

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01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the world, like we can cultivate in our peace, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can bring that to the world because I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us right now are more sensitive to

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01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the types of oppression that exists, racism, sexism, all the

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01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:24.479
<v Speaker 1>things that are going on, and we want so badly

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<v Speaker 1>to change things and for the world to just be

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01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.119
<v Speaker 1>a better place for all of us. And that's great,

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01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and may we may we make the efforts to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, what we do have control

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01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.119
<v Speaker 1>over is our own you know, thoughts and emotions and

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01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what we're what we're cultivating within ourselves, And if we

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01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 1>can cultivate in our peace, then we can bring that

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<v Speaker 1>to the world. And that can be a powerful way

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01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to change things, you know. So I just want people

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<v Speaker 1>to know that that's possible, because it can feel really impossible,

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01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 1>and especially when we're gripped with these kinds of emotions

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01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like depression and sorrow, anxiety, shame, anger, it can feel

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. But just to know that it is one

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01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:14.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent possible to create peace inside of ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. It is a well written book. It has a

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01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of good material in it, and it is a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a I guess you're writing it for the beginner.

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01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 2>It has a lot of technique in it as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fantastic. So, hey, much success on this and

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<v Speaker 2>is it when did it come out? Did it come

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<v Speaker 2>out in December?

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<v Speaker 1>The book?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Then? Release date is today, February.

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<v Speaker 2>It's available now, I hope.

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01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just today was the official release date on the

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<v Speaker 1>first interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic okay, So I would imagine it's available on Amazon

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01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.920
<v Speaker 2>for people to get it. Yeah, okay, Hey, much success

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<v Speaker 2>on this book. And I really appreciate you being on

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thanks for having me. It's been so fun to talk.

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01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Mention that yoga is a progressive practice, and that means

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01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that you get the basics of the postures and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can choose from the different techniques. I do Hatha yoga,

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01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 2>which is about holding postures for a periods of time

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01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.479
<v Speaker 2>let them sink in a little bit. But there's other types.

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<v Speaker 2>There's even a hot yoga where you could go to

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01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:39.319
<v Speaker 2>a studio and it's hot. They turn the heater up

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01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and it loosens your muscles a little bit, and some

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01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 2>people love it. I am not a big fan Birkham yoga,

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<v Speaker 2>but the point being, there's various types of settings and

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01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 2>various styles. She talks a little bit about him. Rihima

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<v Speaker 2>brings it up in the book, so get something to

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<v Speaker 2>choose from. I honestly believe that everybody who can should

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<v Speaker 2>do some form of stretching, especially the of the spine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long energy cords, a long spinal cord. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you stretch that and you keep it flexible, your

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<v Speaker 2>chances of being ill, of losing flexibility, of being infirmed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of like locked to your chair as

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01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>you're elder, as you're getting older, is lessened. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also think that your chances of longevity increase substantially too,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there's in fact, I know there's a

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<v Speaker 2>number of studies that show that people do do yoga

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01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:42.079
<v Speaker 2>into their retirement ages are much better off than those

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<v Speaker 2>who don't. So great to have her on again. The

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<v Speaker 2>book The Yogi's Way Transform Your Mind, Health and Reality

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.720
<v Speaker 2>just came out, and it's funny because today was the

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<v Speaker 2>day that it hit the streets. So fun fun to

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01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:06.920
<v Speaker 2>have around the program that kind of is another concluding

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01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 2>show on these ancient techniques. And you know, it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I was considering adding yoga to the biohacking It's

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01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 2>not really considered a biohacking tool, but it is a

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01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:23.960
<v Speaker 2>bio hacking tool because it has such great benefits. And

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01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:26.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, people go to the gym and they do cardio.

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01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm one of these people. I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the gym and do cardio and I do some weights,

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01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:33.119
<v Speaker 2>but I'll tell you I don't feel as good as

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01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 2>when I'm done with doing a yoga posture. And my

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<v Speaker 2>yogas sessions and only go for about half and half

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01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:41.640
<v Speaker 2>an hour thirty minutes, so they don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>longer drawn out. And I even do a yoga session

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm not feeling well, and I think about at

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<v Speaker 2>least six months ago. Six months ago, I ripped my

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01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.920
<v Speaker 2>intercostal muscles, these are the muscles between your rib cage

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<v Speaker 2>on the right side, doing some uh weightlifting, and I

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01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:07.399
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do anything. The only thing I could do was

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<v Speaker 2>a few other weightlifting exercises and my yoga. Now I

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01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.279
<v Speaker 2>had to be very gentle when I'd bent and turned

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<v Speaker 2>on that right side, but I still got through it.

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<v Speaker 2>I healed a lot quicker. And I'll tell you it

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<v Speaker 2>is not to be missed. Yoga, yoga, yoga. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and we talk about this. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors health wise techniques. So we need to consider

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<v Speaker 2>these ancient but very very sophisticated sachia and treata yog

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<v Speaker 2>yoga technique. So get back on, get back to where

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<v Speaker 2>your ancestors were and do some yoga. If you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I said, for this program, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank my guest today, Rima Data coming to us from

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<v Speaker 2>taois New Mexico. As always a team of Gil tour,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys rock all right, take care of you well and

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