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<v Speaker 1>Oh bed of the Aard, Hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Jacob, and today, Jacob, we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a little known thing called the Peerie Reese Map.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard of this before, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>It's ringing a bell, but I'm very unfamiliar with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Off top, Is there another name it might go by?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it, uh, see, a famous explorer from back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day or something like?

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<v Speaker 3>To what level are we going here? He was indeed

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<v Speaker 3>an explorer, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So yeah, it's actually this guy was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they called, like a like a map agrapher

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<v Speaker 2>or a cartographer? Cartographer? That's what I was thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was. I mean, the the amount of information

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<v Speaker 2>that he was able to compile together to create this

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<v Speaker 2>map in the time that he did, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even just with the discovery of Antarctica in

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<v Speaker 2>the what was it, the seventeen eighteen hundreds, This guy

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<v Speaker 2>knew that Antarctica was down there in the fifteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>By compiling ancient old world maps. So yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna get right into it. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be getting into the Forbidden Map, the secrets of

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<v Speaker 2>Pierie Reese, Antarctica, and the Lost World.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for this, sir? I am indeed all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So some people have said that this is the map

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<v Speaker 2>that literally shouldn't exist because it makes no sense how

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<v Speaker 2>this information was about there. You know, we always talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how Christopher Columbus, there's no way he was the

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<v Speaker 2>first one to discover America because there was obviously people

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<v Speaker 2>already here, and many other explorations of people saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they're the first ones to ever discover said land. And

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<v Speaker 2>what this map shows is that people have been knowing

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<v Speaker 2>about the majority of the land masses on the Earth

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<v Speaker 2>for a very long time, and a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of remained secret for a little while. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me paint a picture here for you, sir. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty nine, deep inside the archive of Istanbuls top

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<v Speaker 2>top that's a word top copy to copy palace, a

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten artifact was rediscovered. It wasn't gold jewels or some

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<v Speaker 2>lost religious relic. It was a piece of parchment, a

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<v Speaker 2>fragment of a map drawn in fifteen thirteen by an

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<v Speaker 2>Ottoman admiral named Piri Reeese. At first glance, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a typical map of Europe Africa in South America.

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<v Speaker 2>But then came the shaker. This map also depicted a

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<v Speaker 2>detailed coastline of a land mass that no one had

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<v Speaker 2>charted yet, Antarctica. And it wasn't buried in ice. It

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<v Speaker 2>was ice free. This map, this was a map that

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have existed. It was drawn three hundred years before

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<v Speaker 2>Antarctica's discovery. It showed the coastline beneath the ice, a

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<v Speaker 2>detail only confirmed by twentieth century seismic scans. This wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just a weird historical curiosity. It was a crack in

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<v Speaker 2>the entire timeline of human history because it Perry Rees

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<v Speaker 2>mapped Antarctica? Who told him what it looked like? So

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<v Speaker 2>this is where it gets wild. Either this guy had

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<v Speaker 2>access to maps from a lost advanced civilization or everything

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<v Speaker 2>we've been told about exploration and history is off by

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<v Speaker 2>literally thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean it's a lot of things to be

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<v Speaker 3>drawn from that bro. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so so it all starts with Piery Rees.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was an admiral of oh I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember where he was from now, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to it though, so said.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ottoman Empire. So I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why it also made sense when you said, like

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<v Speaker 4>Turkey Istanbul, that whole conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the same vicinity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so he was Actually he was born in

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen sixty five, and he wasn't just a cartographer.

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<v Speaker 3>He was an admiral. He was an explorer, and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>A scholar with access to the most advanced knowledge networks

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<v Speaker 2>of his time. So in his notes on the map,

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<v Speaker 2>he makes this this wild and mission on the map,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote this right he goes. These coasts were drawn

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<v Speaker 2>by Pierri Rees in the year fifteen thirteen. They are

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<v Speaker 2>based on twenty charts and map by Monday Monday and

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<v Speaker 2>maps drawn in the days of Alexander the Great. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, holy shit, how did he get his hands

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<v Speaker 2>on this? So think about this. He had twenty source maps,

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<v Speaker 2>some from Alexander's era and others even older. These weren't guesses.

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<v Speaker 2>This was ancient cartography, compiled from knowledge spanning many civilizations.

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<v Speaker 3>So imagine being Perry Reece.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an admiral, You've got access to these ancient charts

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<v Speaker 2>that no one else even knows exists. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>he realized that he was holding something maybe a little

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<v Speaker 2>forbidden or was he just trying to make the best

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<v Speaker 2>map that he could Maybe a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>So this guy was pretty fascinating because I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he just had access to maps that, you know, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>even knew existed. And he actually claims that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to this he actually, well I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he claims it, he claims that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the maps are from Alexander the Great. Now, what a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people think is is that the only way

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<v Speaker 2>that he could have add access to that is if

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<v Speaker 2>he had somehow gotten access from people who I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>were able to get their hands on books and articles

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<v Speaker 2>and maps and stuff from the Library of Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, I got a little bit of a stick

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<v Speaker 4>in the mud when it comes to the Library of

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<v Speaker 4>Alexandria not necessarily maps from Alexander the Great. I'm with

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<v Speaker 4>you on that, right, because you got to think about

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<v Speaker 4>the vast empire that Alexander carved out for himself. It

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<v Speaker 4>literally covered from Greece to Egypt to India, right, And

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<v Speaker 4>so when you think about that when he got to Egypt,

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't just stopping there and that was the edge

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<v Speaker 4>of civilization. The local tribe there had maps of what

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<v Speaker 4>was going on more south in Africa. The tribes that

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<v Speaker 4>he was facing in India had maps what was going

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<v Speaker 4>on far more east.

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<v Speaker 3>What we would now call China and Thailand and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He might have stopped at this point, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean that the cultural references stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, and like you said, he had twenty

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<v Speaker 4>source maps to go off of the ones for Alexander,

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<v Speaker 4>it would make sense to me that he used those

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of chart certain areas of the world. He

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<v Speaker 4>would go to this map to chart this area of

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Library of Alexandria, when we talk about how

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<v Speaker 4>its destruction, how much information was lost in that tragic

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<v Speaker 4>event and all this, most experts these days realized that

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of a big nothing burger because the Library

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<v Speaker 4>of Alexandria, Yeah, at one point in time was the

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<v Speaker 4>hub of knowledge, the hub of like where all this

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<v Speaker 4>the secret scrolls and papyri and all this would end

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<v Speaker 4>up here. When it was burned, it had fallen into

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<v Speaker 4>disrepair for like two hundred years. The Library of Memphis

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<v Speaker 4>and the Library of Cairo were like way way higher

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<v Speaker 4>up on the totem pole than the Library of Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more like for the symbolic fuck you. When

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<v Speaker 4>it was burned, it wasn't to wipe away the lost

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<v Speaker 4>information and stuff. Most historians would say that, yeah, there

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<v Speaker 4>was probably some scrolls and stuff in there that has

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<v Speaker 4>been lost the time, and we'll never get that information back,

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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of it had already been redctated onto

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<v Speaker 4>other scrolls and then moved to other libraries and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very it was falling apart. They could barely

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<v Speaker 4>keep the place staffed. It wasn't as big of a

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<v Speaker 4>kick to the dick for humanity as people have thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's what they probably want you to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Most experts quote unquote are in fact not experts. They

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<v Speaker 2>only know what they've been taught, They only know what

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<v Speaker 2>has been in their history books. A lot of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what we talk about all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is I mean, and we disagree on this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why, like me and you we have this

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<v Speaker 2>dichotomy on the show where I don't trust history. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust quote unquote experts because these people, people are

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<v Speaker 2>some of them. How are they getting paid? Who are

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<v Speaker 2>they getting paid by? That's you know, we always talk

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<v Speaker 2>about follow the money, Where does that money come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What benefit do they have by claiming that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this is just it was a nothing burger. It

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<v Speaker 2>was no big deal. It was bauling down, like where

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<v Speaker 2>are they getting that from? Because this was a long

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<v Speaker 2>ass time ago. This is this is information handed down

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<v Speaker 2>from generation to generation to generation. You don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we kind of just have to take it

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<v Speaker 2>on faith from experts, and I don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of faith in experts. I definitely don't have a faith

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<v Speaker 2>in governments and religions that would ultimately love to cover

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this kind of stuff up right, So they.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought that that out of the library itself up until

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<v Speaker 4>five years ago. The experts believe that that was like

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest Oh my god, what the fuck? It is

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<v Speaker 4>a really recent development, Like you said, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was an episode ago or two episodes ago. History is

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<v Speaker 4>rewriting itself, right, when more information comes up, we find

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<v Speaker 4>out what history we believed was that's true, come to

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<v Speaker 4>find out is not true. This is an example of

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<v Speaker 4>one of those. I'm not saying that it was like

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<v Speaker 4>just a big womp womp. There was stuff in there,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, but you could look at other records to

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<v Speaker 4>show that there was like more prevalent libraries and information

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<v Speaker 4>at that time. So where, But to your point about

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<v Speaker 4>where did Admiral Reice get this information? Could it have

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<v Speaker 4>been from one of the other libraries that maybe we're

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<v Speaker 4>taking reference from the Library of Alexandria, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>scrolls that may have been rewritten and brought to other

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<v Speaker 4>places that through the chain of custody, if you will,

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<v Speaker 4>ended up under the Ottoman rule.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see that one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the Library of Alexandria. That was something that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you hear stories about it, and to where

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<v Speaker 2>and depending on what source you're getting it from. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people say that how they were obtaining that was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like by hook or by crook. You get sources from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from other people, and they say, well, they

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<v Speaker 2>knew that this was essentially just a place that could

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<v Speaker 2>house so much information, and so anytime somebody would come

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<v Speaker 2>in from another civilization, they would want to input their

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<v Speaker 2>culture and their belief systems, and it was essentially like

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<v Speaker 2>a large collection of the world's cultures and their history

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, whatever they wanted to put in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe that was just like, all right, well you

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<v Speaker 2>want to dock at this port, We're gonna need some

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<v Speaker 2>form of payment, whether it be money or information or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly how it worked, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>find the whole thing fascinating. This guy right here, your boy,

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<v Speaker 2>Graham Hancock. He went on to Joe Rogan. He was

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<v Speaker 2>actually talking about this, this is what and this was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a few years ago that he was having this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and I find it so fascinating because, say

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<v Speaker 2>what you want about Graham Hancock, he has an imagination

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<v Speaker 2>like no other. And you know what I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he can take something and look at

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<v Speaker 2>it from a completely different angle, not from the scholarly angle,

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<v Speaker 2>from the quote unquote expert level. He likes to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it from another perspective and instead of just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the same old it's nothing, it's no big deal, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to see here, he likes to keep an open mind

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<v Speaker 2>and say what if it is this? What if these

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<v Speaker 2>are the missing pieces that you know, history can't figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's what we need, like we

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<v Speaker 2>need people who have an imagination to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>piece these things together because a lot of the information

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<v Speaker 2>like fragments of documents. And that's what this periy Rees

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<v Speaker 2>the only part of the map that they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to find. So and this is a picture of the map.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to bring up a better depiction of it

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<v Speaker 2>the good cult members to hear Graham Hancock speaking about

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<v Speaker 2>this pirie Rees map and all of its possible implications

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<v Speaker 2>about what it could mean, because just the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Antarctica was on this map blows people away. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen thirteen, this guy was writing it. He wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>one that discovered it. He doesn't at period. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>claim to be the discoverer of it. He claims that

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<v Speaker 2>he got it from all these older maps, which is

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<v Speaker 2>even more stunning because it could go back another five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years, another thousand years, another couple thousand years and

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the case, then Antarctica. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 2>saying that there was no fucking ice whenever he drew

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<v Speaker 2>this map, there was no ice on the continent of Antarctica,

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<v Speaker 2>which I mean, you're talking about pre ice age at

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I'm saying, essentially possibly, right, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what the biome of Earth looked like circa

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<v Speaker 4>four thousand BC. We have a couple of ideas we

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<v Speaker 4>can get a general estimation. But even still at that point,

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<v Speaker 4>you would think there would still be ice on Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 4>So what source is he going off of to say

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<v Speaker 4>that it was not, Because we do know that Antarctica

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<v Speaker 4>itself is not like it's not like the North Pole.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a floating ice block, right, It is a

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<v Speaker 4>continent with land, and at one time it was lush,

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<v Speaker 4>green vegetation. So if he's going off of sources that

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<v Speaker 4>are pre dating all there are we talking pre younger driest.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude probably around there at least. But let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>really is a five and a half minute video. And

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<v Speaker 2>I love Graham Hancock. I just I love people that

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<v Speaker 2>get you excited to learn about old information and he's

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<v Speaker 2>perfect at that, so let's hear him talk, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the best evidence for it is ancient maps,

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<v Speaker 5>which show the world as it looked during the last

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<v Speaker 5>Ice Age. I first explored this in Fingerprints of the Gods,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've touched on the mystery again, and I have

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<v Speaker 5>an appendix on the subject in this book, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think these are very important. We're talking about maps that

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<v Speaker 5>were drawn roughly between the thirteen hundreds and the seventeen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 5>in other words, in relatively recent history. However, these maps

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<v Speaker 5>were largely based on much older source maps which they copied.

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<v Speaker 5>And we can say that for sure because one of

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<v Speaker 5>the famous maps is the Piri Reese Map, which was

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<v Speaker 5>created by a Turkish admiral called Piri recent the year

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen thirteen. Actually only a corner of his map has survived.

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<v Speaker 5>It was originally a world map. We now just have

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<v Speaker 5>a bit that shows the east coast of South America

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<v Speaker 5>and North America and the west coast of Africa. Piri

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<v Speaker 5>res writes in that map that it is in his

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<v Speaker 5>own handwriting that he based it on more than one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred older source maps, some of which had come from

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<v Speaker 5>the Library of Alexandria. In other words, that maps had

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<v Speaker 5>been when the library of Alexandria had been destroyed in

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth century ADEA, whenever it was some of its

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<v Speaker 5>contents had been rescued and brought to Constantinople, which became

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<v Speaker 5>the Turkish capital, and Piri Rees had access to those maps,

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<v Speaker 5>and he incorporated information from those maps on his maps,

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<v Speaker 5>as well as incorporating more recent navigational information. And this

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<v Speaker 5>is one of a whole category of maps which are

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<v Speaker 5>extremely hard to explain, all of them based on older

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<v Speaker 5>source maps now lost, all of them incorporating extremely precise

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<v Speaker 5>relative longitudes and latitudes. Latitude is not that difficult to

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<v Speaker 5>technological feat but longitude is a difficult technological feet. Longitude

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<v Speaker 5>involves a chronometer. It involves knowing the time at the

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<v Speaker 5>place you began your voyage and local noon as well

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<v Speaker 5>and calculating the difference between them. You need a chronometer

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<v Speaker 5>that will keep accurate time at sea with the motions

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<v Speaker 5>of a ship. And it's just a plain fact that

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<v Speaker 5>our civilization did not invent such a chronometer until the

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<v Speaker 5>late eighteenth century. Before that, we didn't know what longitude

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<v Speaker 5>we were at, and ships were constantly sailing unexpectedly into

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<v Speaker 5>coastlines that they thought were hundreds of miles further away.

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<v Speaker 5>So the discovery of the technique to do longitude was

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<v Speaker 5>a major civilizational advance. Its presence in maps based on

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<v Speaker 5>much older source maps that actually show the world as

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<v Speaker 5>it looks during the last Ice Age suggests that somebody

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<v Speaker 5>during the last Ice Age was mapping the world and

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<v Speaker 5>had mastered the technique of calculating longitude. Classic example of

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<v Speaker 5>these maps, and I make a point of this, is

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<v Speaker 5>what's called the Pinkerton World Map, which was drawn in

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<v Speaker 5>the year eighteen eighteen, and it was based on the

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<v Speaker 5>latest navigational information at that time. I reproduced that map

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<v Speaker 5>in the book. What's missing from the map, entirely missing

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<v Speaker 5>is Antarctica. There's just a hole at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 5>the world. There's nothing there. And the reason there's reason

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing there, there's another Pinkton map that shows that.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason that you'll need to find one that's centered

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<v Speaker 5>on Antarctica. The reason that Antarctica is not there is

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<v Speaker 5>that our civilization hadn't discovered Antarctica in eighteen eighteen, so

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<v Speaker 5>they couldn't authentically put it on a map in eighteen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually we discovered it in eighteen nineteen, and that's when

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<v Speaker 5>it starts appearing on modern maps. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 5>Antarctica appears repeatedly on these much older maps, and it

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<v Speaker 5>appears in the right place and a bit bigger than

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<v Speaker 5>it is that but very much as it looked during

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<v Speaker 3>So what all of this suggests to.

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<v Speaker 5>Me is that the world was mapped and explored by

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<v Speaker 5>a global seafaring culture with a level of technology that

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<v Speaker 5>was at least equivalent to ours at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the eighteenth century during the Ice Age.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there also a map of Greenland that showed it

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the ice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, there are, and and and another intriguing thing I

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned the Piri Rees map. Just now shown on the

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<v Speaker 5>Pirie Reece map. Lying off the east coast of North

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<v Speaker 5>America is a large island with a row of megaliths,

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<v Speaker 5>like a road of megaliths running up the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 5>That island is in the exact place of the Grand

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<v Speaker 5>Bahama Banks and one, yeah it is. But can I

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<v Speaker 5>point it out to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, Okay, okay, that's great that you can bring

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<v Speaker 5>this up.

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<v Speaker 3>Jurney that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>So this island is sitting there off the southeast coast

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the way they used to draw things back

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<v Speaker 3>then too.

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<v Speaker 5>And what you see running down the middle of it

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<v Speaker 5>is this roadlike feature.

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<v Speaker 3>I see right there.

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<v Speaker 2>He is now.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is, there was a long period of my

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<v Speaker 5>life when I did a lot of scuba diving and

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking at at underwater structures and one of

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<v Speaker 5>the sites I dived on was the Bimini Road, which

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<v Speaker 5>is in the Grand Bahama Banks. And the Bimini Road

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<v Speaker 5>is exactly where that island is. And here's the issue.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care whether the Bimini Road is natural or

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<v Speaker 5>man made. For me, the mystery is that it is

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<v Speaker 5>shown above water on that map, and the last time

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<v Speaker 5>it was above water was thousands and thousands of years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>So for me, this is all evidence that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>dismiss the possibility that our ancestors had achieved a level

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<v Speaker 5>of technology where they could explore on that the world's oceans.

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't dismiss it, Okay, So Jacob, what are your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts of Sir Graham Hancock.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, Graham Hancock, I disagree with some of

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<v Speaker 4>the stuff he says from time to time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think he is a fascinating guy to

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<v Speaker 4>I would kill to sit and have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 4>him one of these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So, before I say anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want it to get misconstrued like I'm throwing shade.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not, at especially not to him personally. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a couple of issues with at least one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things he said, and I think that your

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<v Speaker 4>premise for this episode kind of will go in line

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<v Speaker 4>with what I'm saying. He said that we, quote unquote

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<v Speaker 4>Western society, Western civilization didn't know the Antarctica existed prior

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<v Speaker 4>to eighteen eighteen. That's not accurate, and the period reicse

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<v Speaker 4>map proves that also, But there was other explorers prior

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<v Speaker 4>to the eighteen hundreds that would attest to that as well. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>give me the ability to share the screen real quick,

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<v Speaker 4>I got about a minute and a half of a

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<v Speaker 4>video that I want to play that will kind of

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<v Speaker 4>show the point on this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have you ever heard of a Captain James Cook?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I think the point that he was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make though, was that in eighteen eighteen whenever they

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<v Speaker 2>built that map. And this is I believe this is

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<v Speaker 2>as far as as American exploration goes, right that that

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<v Speaker 2>map that he was referring to, not the Piri Rees map,

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<v Speaker 2>the other map that he was referring to that was

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<v Speaker 2>made in eighteen eighteen that didn't include Antarctica, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen nineteen was allegedly the year that we discovered it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's fair, But that's the thing we're talking about. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>American maps or European maps were talking about all of

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<v Speaker 4>Western civilization as a whole kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like where are we drawing that line?

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<v Speaker 4>Because James Cook, captain who found Hawaii, first white dude

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<v Speaker 4>anyway to find Hawaii. I'm about to show you a

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<v Speaker 4>it clearly shows Antarcticle, but it showed it being this

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<v Speaker 4>massive land mass that connected North America to Asia, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's what they thought it was at the time. Just

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to.

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<v Speaker 7>Play with any championship again in my lifetime. Sorry, let

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<v Speaker 7>me get back on topic here before we get into

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<v Speaker 7>Cook's final days. Let me give you a brief rundown

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<v Speaker 7>of his legendary accomplishments. Of his three major voyages. He

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<v Speaker 7>accomplished the following. He was the first non indigenous explorer

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<v Speaker 7>to discover and chart New Zealand and the eastern part

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<v Speaker 7>of Australia, claiming the latter for Britain, though it should

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<v Speaker 7>be noted that the Dutch actually discovered Australia first, they

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<v Speaker 7>just never did anything with it. Then there's the case

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<v Speaker 7>of Tara Australis. For centuries, European scientists deduced that the

426
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<v Speaker 7>continent of Antarctica as we know it today was a

427
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<v Speaker 7>large land mass that was connected to every other continent

428
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<v Speaker 7>of the world.

429
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<v Speaker 4>Tara Australis, and that's what it was called for centuries

430
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<v Speaker 4>before even this eighteen eighteen map that he's talking about.

431
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<v Speaker 4>So and I don't know this map in particular. I

432
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<v Speaker 4>don't know how this ties into the Perry Reese map,

433
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<v Speaker 4>if it does or what. But I mean, you could

434
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<v Speaker 4>see they thought the Antarctica basically connected.

435
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<v Speaker 3>They thought that was South America. Like real shit.

436
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<v Speaker 4>They were decent at making maps, they weren't the absolute

437
00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.079
<v Speaker 4>best at it, let's be real. They didn't even know

438
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<v Speaker 4>that Australia was over here at the time that this

439
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.200
<v Speaker 4>map was made, you know what I mean. So this

440
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<v Speaker 4>was used for centuries prior to the eighteen eighteen map

441
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<v Speaker 4>that Graham.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Hancock was quoting.

443
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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if he had a map that

444
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<v Speaker 4>just didn't even have these things on it, and like

445
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.160
<v Speaker 4>that was a I don't want to say, like a

446
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.960
<v Speaker 4>bad map, but somebody who wasn't exactly the best at

447
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<v Speaker 4>it or what. But to say that we quote unquote

448
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<v Speaker 4>didn't know that it existed in eighteen eighteen is in

449
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<v Speaker 4>phallically incorrect.

450
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<v Speaker 2>But even that map that you just pulled up, it

451
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<v Speaker 2>showed Antarctica fucking huge, and a lot of times, like

452
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<v Speaker 2>especially with older maps, what they would do is is

453
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<v Speaker 2>that they would just from my, my, you know, a

454
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<v Speaker 2>research into this kind of stuff for stuff that they

455
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<v Speaker 2>didn't know like fully and entirely, they would kind of

456
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<v Speaker 2>just blob a lot of it out. Like that map

457
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.440
<v Speaker 2>that you just showed. It showed Antarctica as being damn

458
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<v Speaker 2>near a fucking third of the Earth.

459
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yes, but my point is they knew that

460
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<v Speaker 4>it existed. There was no question that this land mass

461
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<v Speaker 4>at the bottom. Now you don't see ice I will

462
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 4>give you this. It doesn't have ice. However, actually I'm

463
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<v Speaker 4>gonna play it.

464
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<v Speaker 2>How could they have possibly but how could they have

465
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<v Speaker 2>possibly known that it existed? Whenever they couldn't even charge

466
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<v Speaker 2>exactly how big it was. I mean, that's not to

467
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:20.599
<v Speaker 2>say that you know that it exists, because you didn't

468
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<v Speaker 2>even explore the whole thing. You're just supposing that it

469
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:25.559
<v Speaker 2>was that big, which is incorrect.

470
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<v Speaker 4>Agreed, But this again, this is in the mat that

471
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<v Speaker 4>James Cook made. This is one of the ones that

472
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<v Speaker 4>was being used before he even set sail.

473
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<v Speaker 3>In his voyage.

474
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<v Speaker 4>Let me play another forty five seconds of this video

475
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<v Speaker 4>and it'll answer a little bit of those questions.

476
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<v Speaker 7>It was Cook and his crew who first discovered it

477
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 7>and mapped it, proving it was significantly smaller land mass

478
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<v Speaker 7>that sat alone in the southern Hemisphere and was for

479
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<v Speaker 7>the most part void of any life. And amongst his

480
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<v Speaker 7>most famous finds in regards to European mapping was the

481
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<v Speaker 7>Islands of Hawaii.

482
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<v Speaker 4>So Cook and his crew actually charted in matt Antarctica,

483
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<v Speaker 4>and this is in the late seventeen hundreds. But that's

484
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<v Speaker 4>a conversation for a different day. I get that, But

485
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not saying that this this doesn't predate the

486
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<v Speaker 4>Purie rece map at all. I'm just saying as far

487
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<v Speaker 4>as the Graham Hancock click goes, you asked what my

488
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<v Speaker 4>question was or what my thoughts were about that.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that Cook was.

490
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<v Speaker 4>I think Cook was probably using the Puririe rece map

491
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 4>as a matter of fact, or a version thereof. But

492
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<v Speaker 4>to say that we didn't know about it prior to

493
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<v Speaker 4>the eighteen hundreds or that's that's kind of silly.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Then why would we say that we discovered Antarctica in

495
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<v Speaker 2>eighteen nineteen.

496
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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

497
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<v Speaker 4>That's incorrect for anybody to make that claim as silly.

498
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 4>It was well discovered for centuries prior to. They thought

499
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 4>it was way bigger than what it was than Captain Cook.

500
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:45.720
<v Speaker 4>I think it was a second voyage as a matter

501
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 4>of fact, actually went to Antarctica, circumnavigated and mapped it,

502
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:51.880
<v Speaker 4>and that's when they knew it was a lot smaller

503
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.880
<v Speaker 4>than what was previously determined. But again, this is seventeen hundreds.

504
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 4>Puri Reef was in the fifteen hundreds, So it's a

505
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<v Speaker 4>he dates that, you know what I mean.

506
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking right here. It says Antarctica was first

507
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 2>sighted on January twenty eighth of eighteen twenty by a

508
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Russian expedition led by Fabian Gottlieb von Bellinghausen and Michael Lazarev.

509
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<v Speaker 2>It does say, however, some evidence suggests that Polynesians may

510
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<v Speaker 2>have reached the Antarctic waters as early as the six hundreds.

511
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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, according to history, which you do love,

512
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<v Speaker 2>it's saying that that's incorrect.

513
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait, why did they go to that?

514
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<v Speaker 4>Whenever I type this in hold on, I got you

515
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 4>because he they called it Tara Australis, which they knew

516
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Australia was the thing when they found New Zealand. You

517
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.759
<v Speaker 4>can't find New Zealand without finding Australia. It's right the

518
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 4>fuck there, and it's way bigger. But Tara Australis they

519
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 4>called Antarctica, or we would now call Antarctica. Hold On,

520
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 4>let me see James Cook mapping Tara Australis.

521
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<v Speaker 2>But I think that even if let's say, you, I mean,

522
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>what does what signifies a discovery? Like is it just

523
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>seeing something through a telescope or not a telescope? But

524
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>does some kind of yeah, I guess some kind of telescope.

525
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Did they put feet on land? How far did they

526
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>walk on this land? Did they only see it from

527
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>a ship?

528
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:18.480
<v Speaker 3>You know?

529
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 4>Like what constitutes a quote unquote discovery? Okay, So to

530
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 4>find it would be to find it right, to map

531
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>the Lamb mass itself. It's like finding North America versus

532
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>mapping from the Appalachian Mountains.

533
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 3>To the Rocky Mountains.

534
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 4>Those are two completely different expeditions, you know what I mean.

535
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 4>So if you're mapping just the coastline, then that's all

536
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 4>you're doing.

537
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

538
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 4>Cook's first voyage seventeen sixty eight to seventeen seventy one

539
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 4>involved circumnavigating New Zealand and charting its islands, proving it

540
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 4>wasn't connected to larger landb masks.

541
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 3>He also mapped the eastern coast of Australia.

542
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 4>Cook's second voyage aimed to definitively determine the existence of

543
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Teara Australia, which we would now call Antarctica. He sailed

544
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 4>deep into the Southern Ocean, circumnavigating the globe, improving the

545
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 4>hypothetical continent, if it existed, was limited to cold, uninhabitable

546
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>polar regions, so that was what he.

547
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Did on his second voyage, and that's.

548
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>What he saw it from his boat. He never even

549
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>got on it.

550
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Exactly exactly, so I mean it was it was.

551
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the waters in and around the Antarctica even

552
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 4>to this day are super dangerous to try to navigate.

553
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 4>We can, but we're talking about on a wooden ship

554
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 4>in seventeen sixties. Like that's wild. But that's my point.

555
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 4>They didn't know if that was. They didn't call it

556
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 4>Australia Antarctica. They called it Terra Australians because they thought

557
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 4>it was something other than maybe.

558
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Call it like he didn't like he was he just

559
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>saw it from his boat, right.

560
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 3>My point is my point. I guaranteed didn't walk it.

561
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>What No, he didn't walk any of it. He was

562
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>just pulling from other maps. But even even your boy

563
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 2>cook it was like, I mean, is that does that

564
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>constitute a discovery? I mean, just by seeing it?

565
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Would you consider when the Nordics found North America? Would

566
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 4>you consider that they were the first Europeans to find

567
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 4>North America?

568
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Would you find that to be a correct statement? Do

569
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 3>they go on to America?

570
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.119
<v Speaker 4>They actually set up a settlement, But that doesn't mean

571
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 4>that you discovered it. Just because you stepped foot on

572
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make it real. Seeing it can be real

573
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 4>as well. But some of the maps that Cook did

574
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 4>in fact make actually helped an expedition that was sent

575
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 4>to charter Antarctica at a later date. So not all

576
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>of them were useful in that regard, but some of

577
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 4>them helped later explorers who got lost find their way

578
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 4>back to their ship when they were using Cook's maps.

579
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<v Speaker 3>Oddly enough, well, and.

580
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're getting caught in the logistics here

581
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>about whether Graham Hancock's map of eighteen eighteen and Cook's

582
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>map of the seventeen hundreds because he didn't. Cooke didn't

583
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he discovered that there was a land mass beneath Australia, right,

584
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>but to see how big it was to charge all

585
00:29:58.960 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>the hills.

586
00:29:59.440 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>In the valley.

587
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 2>He's in the border and the coastlines like, I'm sure

588
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't able to coast litter, or he wasn't able

589
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to draw all of the entire coastline of Antarctica, probably

590
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 2>just that one section.

591
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 4>He did go the entire way around it. However, I

592
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 4>should give the denotation here. The map that he was

593
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 4>given showed it connecting all the continents. So he was

594
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 4>basically showing at least he didn't he didn't go on Antarctica.

595
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 4>He didn't map the place itself and find mountain ranges

596
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 4>and what kind of animals live there.

597
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>That's not what he was sent for.

598
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 4>He was just saying if it was the size that

599
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 4>they had previously thought it was. But my point is,

600
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 4>prior to that, most explorers knew that something was down there,

601
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>they didn't know how big it was, how vast it was,

602
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 4>what it necessarily looked like. It's not like every sailor

603
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 4>ever that took to the seas made their way to

604
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 4>Antarctica eventually. So my point is he was probably going

605
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>off of the Perierees influenced maps at the time, which

606
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 4>I think might be that map that we saw that

607
00:30:58.559 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 4>connects all the continents.

608
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 3>No, because that quarter of the piri Res map.

609
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 4>We have no idea how big he showed on his

610
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>map antarticle was, and that predates all of this by

611
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 4>at least two centuries.

612
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the thing is that he put this

613
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>map together in fifteen thirteen.

614
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 4>Exactly two hundred and fifty years prior to cook doing anything.

615
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 4>They at least knew the ant article was there. So

616
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 4>it's not to take away from Pirirese at all.

617
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, but it's it's just it conflicts with history. With history,

618
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>is the point, because if this map was drawn in

619
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>fifteen thirteen, sourced from other maps, we don't know how

620
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>how farther that that, how far that goes back, whether

621
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>it was taken from the Library of Alexandria or it

622
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>was handed down from I mean, it's one hundred different sources,

623
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and so nobody knows exactly

624
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>where it came from. It's just fascinating that they had

625
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>or this guy was able to come across all this

626
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>information and put it all together in fifteen thirteen, which

627
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>according to I mean even just your boy cook who

628
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 2>mapped it in the fucking seventeen hundreds, this is two

629
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty, you know, damn near three hundred years

630
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>before even that.

631
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<v Speaker 4>So, like I said, this doesn't take away from Pirie

632
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Reefs at all. What I'm saying is that if you

633
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 4>asked about Graham Hancock, I disagree with the statement that

634
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 4>prior to eighteen eighteen nobody knew was there. I think

635
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>that is emphatically incorrect, right, However, how did piri Res

636
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 4>know that? What were the sources that he was getting

637
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 4>these things from to make that map?

638
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, it doesn't take away.

639
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so let's get into the actual discovery of

640
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 2>said map, because it was lost for a few hundred years,

641
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>this pirie Res map until it was discovered discovered by

642
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Gustave Diisman in nineteen twenty nine. Oh, I'm sorry. It

643
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a quarter of the map. It was a third

644
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>of the map. I messed that up. But so only

645
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a third of the map survive. But what's left is

646
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>is kind of wild. So the South American coastline is

647
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>almost spot on, so you can see like basically all

648
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 2>of Brazil and like that whole area right there, almost

649
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>exactly on Africa. Shape is remarkably accurate. And at the

650
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>bottom the southern land that lines up with the subglacial

651
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 2>coast of Antarctica. So there's even this this guy his

652
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 2>name is Charles Hapgood and he wrote Maps of the

653
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Ancient Sea Kings this book, right, and he quoted from

654
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>this discovery he goes. It seems that accurate information has

655
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 2>been passed down from people to people. It appears that

656
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the charts must have originated with the people unknown and

657
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>were passed down through the great libraries, perhaps even Alexandria.

658
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 2>That's his quote. So if only one third of this

659
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>map survived, what was on the rest? I mean, we

660
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>can only just hypothesize here. Could it have shown the

661
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>whole world or maybe even the lands that we don't

662
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 2>even know exist. And we're gonna get to a point

663
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 2>of this where some you're gonna have flat Earthers say

664
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>see the Perires map this, this helps prove flat Earth.

665
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>And then you're gonna get glow Birthers where they're like,

666
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 2>see this proves the glowbirth because they were you're using

667
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.599
<v Speaker 2>longitude and latitude, and that's that's not the point that

668
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to make. We're not trying to say whether

669
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the Earth is round or flat in this one, but

670
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it could point to what some people like to suggest

671
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 2>as far as lands outside of what we know.

672
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Of the Earth.

673
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>But maybe the Earth is a lot bigger, and whether

674
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it is a globe or a flat map or whatever,

675
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>could there be something out there that we just don't

676
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 2>know about. So and what's fascinating here is that this

677
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>guy was I mean, he was showing Antarctica before Antarctica

678
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>was even known allegedly, So Antarctica wasn't even discovered. I mean, historically,

679
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't discovered until eighteen eighteen eighteen or eighteen nineteen

680
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>or eighteen twenty somewhere in there. Some people say eighteen nineteen,

681
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>some people say eighteen twenty. That's why I say, both

682
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>three centuries before pirie Res or three centuries after Perry

683
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Recas mapped it, and it's been under ice for at

684
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>least six thousand years. That's what they say Antarctica has been.

685
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>So how does this map show an ice free coastline?

686
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Grand handcof just a grand hand Graham Hancock, Fuck me,

687
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>he wrote in his book called The Fingerprints of the Gods.

688
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 2>He goes the pure Reese map suggests an advanced civilization

689
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>had already been mapped, had already mapped the coast of

690
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica when it was free of ice. This implies the

691
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.599
<v Speaker 2>existence of a people who were both ancient and far

692
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>more technically advanced than we've been led to believe. Possibly,

693
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I people get lost in the sauce. Whenever

694
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 2>we start talking about advanced ancient civilizations. Are we talking

695
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 2>about wires? Are we talking about Wi fi? Were talking

696
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>about electricity? Maybe it was another form of advancement, you

697
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>know that is just lost and forgotten. You know, there's

698
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna be things that we discover that is not even

699
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>necessarily discovering technology, but maybe rediscovering technology. So I think

700
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that whenever you talk about like ancient technology and you know,

701
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>advancement and stuff like that, it doesn't mean the technology

702
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>that we use. It could just mean another form of that.

703
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>So if this is real, that means the ice age

704
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>timeline that we've been taught is off. So how many

705
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 2>other things do you think that we've gotten wrong about history?

706
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Like?

707
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>It makes you question history whenever you see things like this,

708
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>because how is it possible that on this coastline it

709
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>showed that it was not filled with ice and if

710
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 2>he was grabbing it for others from other sources, I

711
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, I mean, could the coastline not

712
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>be or maybe the ice age doesn't go all the

713
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 2>way back to six thousand years ago, maybe it goes

714
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 2>back a couple thousand years ago. Maybe, I mean, I

715
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

716
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who's to say that it wasn't one of

717
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 4>those legends that became myth that became just understood truth. Right,

718
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 4>So like that there's people been living in Africa for

719
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 4>the beginning of time, right, that's just how that's gone.

720
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 4>And it would stand to reason ten thousand years ago

721
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 4>prior to like you said, it's been covering nice for

722
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 4>at least since four thousand BC, right, so allegedly over

723
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 4>six thousand years ago, So there were people walking the

724
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 4>earth prior to that. It would stand to reason that

725
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 4>the people that lived on the southern coast of Africa

726
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 4>at some point in time got in a boat and

727
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 4>made that little skip in a hop, especially if it

728
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 4>wasn't the Arctic climate that we have these days. The

729
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 4>seas were probably a little more forgiving at that time,

730
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 4>and maybe they could boat themselves there and they knew

731
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 4>that it was there. Now, how what kind of game

732
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 4>of telephone has to happen over the course of five

733
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 4>thousand years up the entire continent of Africa to get

734
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 4>to the Library of Alexandria, or even for sake of argument,

735
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 4>the Turkic Empire, the Ottoman Empire, to where this legend

736
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 4>became myth, and they all kind of spoke of this land,

737
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 4>and nobody's been there since so the last word anybody

738
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 4>heard about this spot was that it was lush green vegetation.

739
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 3>How far back was it? Look, we're talking the same time.

740
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 4>The last time anybody saw atlantis, they were fucking popping off.

741
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. Where are they at now?

742
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

743
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 4>It's It's kind of one of those things. I could

744
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 4>see that for sure.

745
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, and we're gonna get into your boy Admiral Bird

746
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 2>and Operation High Jump and how that even connects to

747
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica and that whole deal. You think what you want

748
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>to think about your boy, Dick Bird, But I think

749
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>that it's it's fun to, you know, try and piece

750
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>all of it together. But there are theories about how

751
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>did he get these maps? And there are three big

752
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>theories that are the biggest ones as far as where

753
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 2>did he get these?

754
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 8>So?

755
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Could it have been from a loss civilization? Some people

756
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>might like to point to Atlanteans. Do what you want

757
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>with that. I personally, I believe that the Atlanteans were

758
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 2>a real thing. I mean, maybe, I'm sure they didn't

759
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>call themselves Atlanteans, But I do believe in a story

760
00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 2>that predates modern humanity, that talks about ancient forms of technology.

761
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Were they using crystals? Where they advanced? You know, I

762
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I like to believe that there was.

763
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So this is Graham Hancock's domain. He talks about the

764
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 2>pre flood explorers that mapped the world with technology that

765
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>we can't explain. As far as law, civilizations and Atlanteans,

766
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>then there is obviously you got to get into non

767
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>human intelligence. The ancient Sumerians, the Egyptians, and Mayans all

768
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>talk about sky beings who gave humanity forbidden knowledge. Were

769
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 2>these maps possibly a gift? You got to go across

770
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the board because none of it makes sense, you know,

771
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>so you gotta start going there. But the third one,

772
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and probably the most likely, I believe that it was

773
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 2>elite knowledge hoarding. So maybe these maps were preserved through

774
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the Library of Alexandria or other possible libraries and smuggled

775
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>through empires. The Ottomans weren't innovators, they were the guardians

776
00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:00.159
<v Speaker 2>of ancient secrets. So I mean, which one would you

777
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>you buy if any of these three? Are we talking Atlanteans, aliens,

778
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>or just good old fashioned cover ups by ancient elites.

779
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Io's put it more towards lost information lost on purpose? No, No,

780
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 3>I think it was lost, just kind of lost to

781
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>the sands of time, so to speak.

782
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think about it, though, these maps would

783
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>have been invaluable to people that were trying to take

784
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 2>over land and take over the world, maybe they were

785
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 2>in a war or something like that. I mean, you're

786
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about like you're able to know certain coastlines and

787
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 2>know certain waterways and stuff like that. If you're in

788
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>a war with another another country or something like that.

789
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 2>You having this information is like, I mean, that's you

790
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 2>knowing the game of chess five moves in advance.

791
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it only applies if you have a campaign

792
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 4>going that direction. Like for Alexander the Great, to know

793
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 4>what Japan looked like, that would have not helped him

794
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 4>even a little bit on his campaign. You see what

795
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. They do they have resource that we need.

796
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 4>How long would it take to get there? What are

797
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 4>the logistics to get the resources back that we would need?

798
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Is it worth my time and energy to try to

799
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 4>get out that way? It only would apply if somebody

800
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 4>was operating in and around that area. I'm with you

801
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>on that.

802
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 3>If you're in the area, yeah, all the intel matters.

803
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of what I'm talking about though, Like, think

804
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>about it, like whenever we go to Afghanistan. I mean,

805
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of fucking hide out places that we're

806
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>just never going to be able to map out.

807
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 3>And the people that are native to there, they know

808
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 3>all the.

809
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Nooks and crannies to hide in, so right, and you can,

810
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and obviously they used that to their advantage. And I

811
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 2>think that that's kind of where I'm going with this.

812
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that it's the be all, end all,

813
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>but it could definitely help you in situations where you're

814
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 2>having other people from other lands come over and try

815
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and enter into your land and they don't know the landscape,

816
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't know you know certain places and you do.

817
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 9>No.

818
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you, absolutely, but that's my point. We

819
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 3>had a.

820
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Military campaign going on there, so we needed the intel,

821
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 4>We needed to know the hiding spots, We needed to

822
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 4>get involved with the locals and these kind of things.

823
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 3>The ancients, for.

824
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Lack of better words, put that to whatever culture and

825
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 4>civilization you want, Samarian, Roman, and Greek, doesn't matter. Unless

826
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 4>they were operating anywhere around Antarctica, they would have not

827
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 4>needed to know what's going on with Antarctica.

828
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:26.039
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

829
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it was kind of like, yeah, the people

830
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.320
<v Speaker 4>locally south a, southern portion of Africa, southern portion of

831
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 4>South America, southern portion of Australia.

832
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>They probably knew that land mass existed, but you.

833
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't have heard about that from quote unquote Western society

834
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 4>because none of them had made their way there yet.

835
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Therefore they wouldn't have needed to get the intel on

836
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 3>it yet.

837
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 4>That's why I think it was kind of lost through

838
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 4>the sands of time conversation, not like purposely lost.

839
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 3>That's just my two sins.

840
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe that's I mean, anything's possible. All we can

841
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.719
<v Speaker 2>do is really speculate about this kind of stuff. So

842
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 2>I do want to dive into a little bit more

843
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>of the library Library of Alexandria connection.

844
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 3>The lie. And this is the thing.

845
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Whenever we talk about experts, you're going to have some

846
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>people that are all for certain loss forbidden knowledge in

847
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the Library of Alexandria. Then you're gonna have certain fucking

848
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 2>experts that think they know everything and they're gonna say

849
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 2>nothing to see here. There's always something to see, Okay.

850
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I hate whenever people are like, oh, it was

851
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>just a no big deal. It was nothing going on there, Like,

852
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that all of this information just.

853
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 3>What it never existed.

854
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 4>No, but the tone of which you just said showed

855
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.840
<v Speaker 4>your bias right off the rip. You have some people

856
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 4>that believe this and then some experts you think they

857
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 4>know it all. So do the people that act as

858
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 4>if Alexandra held every secret that humanity had. They sound

859
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 4>like they know it all too. It's possible for the

860
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.400
<v Speaker 4>research have they done into it, It's possible it'll do

861
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 4>as like a fucking main part of the world it was,

862
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 4>but again, at the time when it actually burned, it

863
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 4>wasn't as big of a port as it once was. Well,

864
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 4>and then saying that, like, uh, what's another good example

865
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 4>of this, Uh, you can say, yeah, Stanbult at one

866
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 4>point was like the hub right now, Constantinople, all these

867
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 4>like it was it used to be Constantinople as the

868
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 4>whole song about it.

869
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 3>My point is, yeah, one point that was like a

870
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>hub of trade. Everything went through there.

871
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 4>All that it hadn't been that hub in a few centuries,

872
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 4>and there's it hasn't exactly held the same weight as

873
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 4>it once did during the Crusades.

874
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 3>That was the spot like it's things change over time, man,

875
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean it do.

876
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, at one point in time it was

877
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and then it burned down, whether it was accident or

878
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>on purpose or whatever you want to look at it as.

879
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was on purpose for sure, right right? So,

880
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the Library of Alexandria reportedly housed maps, records, and chronicles

881
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 2>stretching back to prehistory. And when it quote unquote burned,

882
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 2>did everything really vanish or did the most valuable artifacts

883
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>get stolen and locked away by certain empires? The Ottoman

884
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 2>inherited Byzantine and Roman archives, so Perry Reeves, as an ameral,

885
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 2>likely had access to these. If true, his map isn't

886
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 2>just a chart, it's a surviving artifact of an e

887
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>race civilization. So how much history do you think is

888
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>locked away in private archives? Is this like the Vatican

889
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Library all over again? Is this what we could be

890
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about?

891
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 3>Like this? And I'm not even coming at you whenever.

892
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying like, no, no experts, this experts that because we

893
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the fuck is going on down to

894
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the end. The Vatican, our guys, dude, they have miles,

895
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 2>literal miles of bookshelves underneath the Vatican right, Like, it's

896
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 2>not a secret, it's not like a conspiracy, like, it's

897
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 2>well known, like and you got to be a legit

898
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>like scholar to even go down in there. And even

899
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>when you go, you have to know exactly what you're

900
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>looking for. Well, and that's how shit gets lost, like

901
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 2>in time, because what if you don't know that something exists,

902
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna know to even ask to look for it.

903
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like a foyer request.

904
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.400
<v Speaker 4>If you don't ask specific for what you're looking for,

905
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 4>your fouryer request is not going to get reviewed.

906
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to come through for you.

907
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 4>And to your point, also, yeah, I'm not saying that

908
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 4>the Library of Alexandria, whenever it did burn, was a shack. Yeah,

909
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 4>there was still some very old artifacts in there, and

910
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 4>I am of the belief that when it started burning,

911
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 4>the people that were working there probably grabbed the most

912
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 4>important things, or at least what they thought was the

913
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 4>most important things and got it out. And so yeah,

914
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 4>the chain of custody still stands on this. Alexandra was

915
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 4>founded by Alexander the Great right, so it was a

916
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Hellenistic period hub then the Romans conquered this area, and

917
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 4>it was a Roman hub. So again, it had information

918
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 4>from at least two dynasties, probably a lot more than that,

919
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 4>to be completely honest with you.

920
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 3>So whenever that fire did pick up, how much.

921
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 4>Of it was saved, did it all burn to a crisp,

922
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 4>how much of it was locked away in other secret archives.

923
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you one hundred percent here. I mean, you

924
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 3>just never know.

925
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Whenever you think about things that are just lost to

926
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the annals of history. I'm more inclined to believe that

927
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>most things aren't lost, they're just hidden.

928
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 3>It could be both. I mean, yeah, it could be a.

929
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Little bit of both, But I think that some of

930
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the most important shit, bro I mean, information is probably

931
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the most valuable thing that you can ever stumble across, right, Like,

932
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 2>is there ever anything, especially whenever you're talking about ancient civilizations,

933
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>ancient technologies, ancient advancements and stuff like that, that would

934
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 2>be the most important information that you can stumble across

935
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>as a civilization if you're looking to build off of

936
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the mountains of your precursors, right And I mean, if

937
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that stumbles across that and you're not trying

938
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to help your civilization build off of that, but you're

939
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to help yourself build off of that, or maybe

940
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't even want to build off of that. Maybe

941
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>just like well, the humanity ain't ready for this, We're

942
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna try and keep them down. We don't need them

943
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>knowing about certain technologies, because then if they know about

944
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 2>certain technologies, we're not gonna be able to have full

945
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 2>control of them like we want to. That's basically my point.

946
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 3>And I agree with that too.

947
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 4>That's why I said it's probably a little bit of

948
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 4>a mixture of both, right, So I don't think that

949
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 4>all ancient information has been hidden from us or in our.

950
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Current day and age, we could have that conversation.

951
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, because there's gatekeepers to information, especially these days.

952
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you on that.

953
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 4>But during the Roman period, maybe yes, maybe no, there's

954
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 4>probably levels of gray in between. There's some information that

955
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 4>would have empowered certain people, so the elites at the

956
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 4>time would hide that information from their people. I agree

957
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 4>with that, But then there's also some things that kind

958
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 4>of got lost in translation and game of telephoned one

959
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 4>hundred monkey theory, whatever you want to say, over the

960
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.960
<v Speaker 4>course of a thousand years, and that information at that

961
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 4>point was more of a legend and you didn't have

962
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.119
<v Speaker 4>to try to hide it because it's just what it is.

963
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I think there's probably both happening at the same time.

964
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:53.039
<v Speaker 4>I think it depends on what information right, lost land masses.

965
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you, certain plants or will go even Fountain

966
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 4>of Youth kind of conversation, a plant that could give

967
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 4>you immortality or something like that. If if ancient Samaria

968
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 4>had a plant that if you ate of it, it

969
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 4>would give you a guaranteed five more years on your life. Yeah,

970
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 4>it would make sense to me that the elites would

971
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 4>hide that information from their people, Like I'm with you

972
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent, right, there's but also if you got

973
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 4>some tribesmen from way out east that makes a claim

974
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 4>like this, but there's also nothing to back it up

975
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 4>other than a story. Do they need to hide that

976
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>information or is it kind of one of those things

977
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.239
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna shake out in the wash later on. It's

978
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 4>I think there's areas of gray here. It's a little

979
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 4>bit of yes and a little.

980
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 7>Bit of no.

981
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm just by judging all the things that we've talked

982
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>about on this show for the past coming up on

983
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 2>five years By the way, in August we make five years.

984
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the exact date. I believe it's the

985
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 2>beginning of August, so literally it's coming up real quick.

986
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>But just over everything that we've discovered about not only

987
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.760
<v Speaker 2>just our country trying to shaft us at every possible

988
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 2>direction they possibly could, but just the world and seeing

989
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>how how gree the world is with containing information and

990
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 2>being able to use that against its people. I am

991
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 2>always more inclined to believe that information, certain information exists

992
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.639
<v Speaker 2>in order to keep us down. Like I'm just so

993
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>inclined to believe that, especially whenever you look into like

994
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 2>not to get weird, but like you look into like psychedelics,

995
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Why the fuck are all of them Schedule one?

996
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Why is that, you know?

997
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 2>And the reason is is because a lot of people

998
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>come out of extreme psychedelic trips and they know, holy shit,

999
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing to be worried about. Well, your government wants

1000
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you to be scared. It wants you to be fearful.

1001
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why you know there's all this propaganda, that's why

1002
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>there's all this division, because it wants you to show

1003
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It wants to show you, essentially that you're different than

1004
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 2>your neighbor, and you should be scared of your neighbor.

1005
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. But then there's also greed being the

1006
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 3>thing here. Right.

1007
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.480
<v Speaker 4>For instance, in the Roman times, the color purple was

1008
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 4>seen as the royal color. Why was it such the

1009
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 4>royal color because there was only one source that could

1010
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 4>make purple dyes that they knew of on earth, and

1011
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 4>that was at this one specific port that was using

1012
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.119
<v Speaker 4>a specific snail shell to make the purple dye. It

1013
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 4>was so expensive and so rare, That's why it was royal. Now,

1014
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 4>the people in that city did not want that secret

1015
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 4>to get out.

1016
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about making a color.

1017
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Dude, it's not some loss forbidden knowledge all these things,

1018
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 4>but like to them, that was their source of income.

1019
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 3>That was the thing that they were known for.

1020
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 4>If that information would have gotten out, they would have

1021
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 4>lost their monopoly on the market, and that is bad.

1022
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 4>So that became very secret, very tightly guarded information.

1023
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying.

1024
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's the micro like that, Sometimes it's the macro.

1025
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it is, Oh, there is this continent just across

1026
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 4>the ocean. There's gold everywhere, fucking everywhere. They literally have gold.

1027
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 4>They're wearing jewelry they built temples completely made out of gold.

1028
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.280
<v Speaker 4>But listen, we don't need to let the Portuguese know

1029
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 4>about this. Okay, we could keep this a Spanish thing.

1030
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 4>We can keep this in house.

1031
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 3>You see. That's what I'm saying.

1032
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 4>There's levels to this, and then it becomes tightly guarded

1033
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 4>secrets that are passed down, but then eventually everything gets out.

1034
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 4>But it's I'm with you. Certain information has absolutely been

1035
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 4>repressed and hidden. Some information kind of lost to the

1036
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 4>sands of time. Some of us just legend and Lord,

1037
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 4>that kind of is sending people on a wild goose

1038
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 4>chase for the sense of sending people on a wild

1039
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 4>goose chase.

1040
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 3>There's levels to it.

1041
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 4>All depends on what we're talking about here now, a

1042
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 4>lost land mass Antarctica, for instance. I could see an

1043
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.320
<v Speaker 4>argument for both, I really could. I could see that

1044
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 4>being lost to the sands of time for a couple

1045
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 4>of millennia until people started going more south than discovering

1046
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 4>it again. I could also see that being repressed information

1047
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 4>that they didn't want people knowing about it because they

1048
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 4>didn't want a bunch of people trying to discover new

1049
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 4>lands and creating new empires that they might need to

1050
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 4>fight later if they get powerful enough.

1051
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I could see it going both ways, honestly, right.

1052
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And just in regards to that color purple that you

1053
00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, basically that it was found inside of

1054
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 2>like a mollusk clam kind of thing, that it was

1055
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.400
<v Speaker 2>off the coast. What fucking coast was that off of

1056
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 2>somewhere down somewhere down the.

1057
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 3>South Mediterranean Sea somewhere, hold on?

1058
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And what's so significant about even that color purple is

1059
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 2>especially whenever you start looking into the color purple about

1060
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>how it they say that the color purple doesn't even technically.

1061
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Exist from tire. It was from tire.

1062
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, But they say, some people say that

1063
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the color purple doesn't even necessarily exist, that all it

1064
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 2>is is anti green, and just the way that our

1065
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 2>minds compute the color, it turns it into purple, because

1066
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 2>there's no such thing as an anti color, you know. So,

1067
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and then you start looking into some of the powders

1068
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 2>that they were using to be able to, i mean,

1069
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 2>change the colors of their cloaks or their clothes or

1070
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever into this purple. And then you look into like, well,

1071
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>what did they know about this purple? And then you

1072
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 2>start looking into fucking dicion In goggles, and about how

1073
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 2>these dycian In goggles would be able to help you

1074
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 2>see beyond, you know, what the human eye is able

1075
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to perceive. And I think that you know, and then

1076
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you look into the fucking color purple. Why was it

1077
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 2>also so revered not only just because the purple was

1078
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.920
<v Speaker 2>so rare, which it was, but also if you just

1079
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 2>look at the color spectrum itself and what the color

1080
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>spectrum itself actually represents, and the color purple represents like

1081
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking gamma, which we just covered in the other a

1082
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:31.400
<v Speaker 2>few episodes ago. As basically to say, so, give you

1083
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>an example. These these red glasses that I wear in

1084
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 2>some of these episodes. They're good for like meditation, and

1085
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you look on the color spectrum and because literally everything

1086
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I see is just shades of red. There's no other color, right,

1087
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>which is really cool. It's almost like looking at everything

1088
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.599
<v Speaker 2>through black and white, but you know, it's just red.

1089
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 2>And so if you were to look at everything through

1090
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.599
<v Speaker 2>that shade of purple glasses, not only are you being

1091
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 2>able to see beyond just what your eyes can see,

1092
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 2>but it also puts you into some kind of meditative state,

1093
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>just like these do these glasses specifically put you into

1094
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 2>meditative state? So now imagine what purple would be able

1095
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to do. Right, And this is what I'm talking about.

1096
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Just as far as like ancient technology, we think of

1097
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>wires and shit like that, but I think that they

1098
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:22.760
<v Speaker 2>knew certain like how certain vibrations worked, how certain colors worked,

1099
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 2>how certain frequencies work. And you look into fractals in geometry,

1100
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 2>and every single fucking ancient civilization was obsessed with geometry.

1101
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Why were they so obsessed with cimatics like it was

1102
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 2>always You look into fucking ancient churches, right, and almost

1103
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 2>all of them, you know, And then you include the

1104
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.360
<v Speaker 2>fucking stained glass and you're like, oh my god. Then

1105
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you include the bells that are resonating at a certain frequency.

1106
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Is that going to put you into a some kind

1107
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 2>of trance state of mind whenever you're trying to meditate

1108
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>or prey or something like that. That's the ancient technology

1109
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>that I mean whenever I say technology. But anyway, with

1110
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 2>all that man said I did, I'm going to share

1111
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the screen, right, mel And we didn't mention it the

1112
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 2>first time, but we want to say, if you want

1113
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 2>to be able to support your boys over at the

1114
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Cult of Conspiracy. The best way to be able to

1115
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.880
<v Speaker 2>do so is to go to patreon dot com slash

1116
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Cult of Conspiracy podcast that links down the show notes below.

1117
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the only place that we put up video anywhere

1118
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.079
<v Speaker 2>because YouTube don't like us and we're not playing that

1119
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.320
<v Speaker 2>game anymore. Some people say, oh, well YouTube's cool again. No,

1120
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you fool me once. That's all I need. Okay the

1121
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.480
<v Speaker 2>second time, I'm full on myself. So yeah, if you

1122
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to support our show over here,

1123
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:35.400
<v Speaker 2>be able to get the shows a couple of days

1124
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in advance, be able to slide into our dms, or

1125
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe you just want to join the Third Eye all

1126
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the way Open tier to be able to join us

1127
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 2>every Tuesday night for the Cult Member Live show.

1128
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:48.599
<v Speaker 3>You'll have access to all of that.

1129
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 2>There's many of different tiers that we have over there,

1130
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 2>and you can support us in the best way that

1131
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 2>you believe.

1132
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, we give you value for.

1133
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.320
<v Speaker 2>But probably the main reason why you want to join

1134
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 2>over at Patreon is because it is completely commercial fluish. Yeah,

1135
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 2>so come on check us out, and we appreciate all

1136
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the good Cult members who have already supported us in

1137
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 2>that way.

1138
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, YouTube is still not cool. I mean, yeah

1139
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:11.920
<v Speaker 3>it is.

1140
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 4>It's the largest streaming platform owned by the largest Internet source, right,

1141
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Google owns it.

1142
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you on that. But like, for.

1143
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Instance, some of those those dision and goggles, right, you

1144
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 4>look into the story of those and how dudes in

1145
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam mvgs used to be purple, but then they start

1146
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 4>seeing dragons and shits.

1147
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 3>Then they change it to red, then they changed it

1148
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:31.960
<v Speaker 3>to green. Here's the deal.

1149
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.800
<v Speaker 4>You can't even say night vision goggles on YouTube. That

1150
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.239
<v Speaker 4>term is a bad word in the YouTube space you

1151
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 4>have to make. I'm telling you, it's so fucking stupid.

1152
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.280
<v Speaker 4>We can't even we can't say the words suicide. You

1153
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 4>have to say self delete or sewer, slide or one

1154
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 4>of these other stupid words. You can't say nbgs or

1155
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 4>night vision goggles because those are two assertion like too

1156
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 4>active to military esque, and you have to say the

1157
00:57:57.679 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Speaker 4>goggles you put down your face and you could see things.

1158
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>You can't say. This is so stupid. This is my point.

1159
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 4>This is why we're now on YouTube. This is why

1160
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.280
<v Speaker 4>we're now on YouTube. We can't even speak freely there.

1161
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna watch how we say things. Sorry, we

1162
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 4>could we're.

1163
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Just not gonna okay that we made that choice a

1164
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 3>long time ago. Patron is where you go to see

1165
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 3>the video.

1166
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.280
<v Speaker 2>We're not self censoring over here. I mean, for I

1167
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 2>think eight months Jacob called Kamala Harris a whore. We

1168
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.239
<v Speaker 2>constantly call Hillary Clinton a cunt. And we're just not

1169
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>going to censor ourselves. I mean, because this is the

1170
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 2>basis of the show, is to not only speak freely,

1171
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 2>but to think freely. And a lot of YouTube doesn't

1172
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean not even just YouTube. Look at you mentioned

1173
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 2>about how YouTube is connected to Google, when Google is

1174
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 2>like one of the world's I think it is the

1175
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.800
<v Speaker 2>world's largest Internet empire. And if and then you start

1176
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>looking into the whole dead Internet theory or they are

1177
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>they deleting old articles so that you can't find certain information.

1178
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:57.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what we like to talk about on here. This

1179
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>is the shit that's forgotten to the realms of time.

1180
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 2>You want to say, shit that has been forgotten to

1181
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the sands of time? Is it been forgotten or purposefully deleted?

1182
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that history is just repeating itself, and we

1183
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 2>are quote unquote some people might say discovering things. I

1184
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 2>think everything we talk about is just a rediscovery, Oh

1185
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>for sure, for sure. Yeah, that's the thing too.

1186
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 4>If anybody's curious where we find all the crazy off

1187
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 4>the wall topics that we talk about from time to time.

1188
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.960
<v Speaker 4>The information's out there. It's all out there. We're finding

1189
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 4>it not just in libraries and books, we're finding it

1190
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.000
<v Speaker 4>on the internet. We're finding it from documentaries or finding

1191
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 4>it in all of these things. But that's the thing.

1192
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 4>The information is out there, But how much of it's

1193
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 4>being repressed? How much of it is getting deplatformed and

1194
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 4>shadow band and all these things to where.

1195
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you'll see that in the YouTube space.

1196
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Some YouTuber will put out a video and his algorithm

1197
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 4>is doing great, he's hitting on all of it.

1198
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Right. He'll put out a video.

1199
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 4>That YouTube doesn't particularly like, so they'll unsubscribe half of

1200
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.800
<v Speaker 4>his subscribers and they will boost or deboost algorithms to

1201
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.519
<v Speaker 4>put that at the bottoms where you can't even see

1202
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.199
<v Speaker 4>it unless you specifically look for that video by name

1203
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 4>shadow banning.

1204
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 3>No, we're not about it.

1205
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 4>We're not about that shit, and we're not gonna we're

1206
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 4>not gonna self censor. First of all, we suck at it,

1207
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.320
<v Speaker 4>and second, why would I put restrictions on my damn self.

1208
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.280
<v Speaker 3>That goes against the First Amendment. Dude, I have a.

1209
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Hard time enough censoring myself in front of my kids

1210
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 2>and my parents. Right, I'm not gonna do it at

1211
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 2>my at my at my job, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1212
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not gonna do it, like, because then you start,

1213
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 2>once you start self censoring, it's like, who are you anymore?

1214
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:34.119
<v Speaker 6>You know?

1215
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 3>That's why I got.

1216
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Out of a regular nine to five job. It's because

1217
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't. I had to watch what I said because

1218
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 4>you never know who's right outside the door. You can't

1219
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 4>be talking the way you want to talk. This this

1220
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 4>is yeah, we're not doing it anyway.

1221
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and just speaking on what you were talking

1222
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.880
<v Speaker 2>about earlier, like how this information does exist. It's almost like,

1223
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to give you an example, the Bible, for example, it

1224
01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>taught it brings up certain quotes or mentions of other

1225
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Biblical books maybe that were never included into the Bible,

1226
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.679
<v Speaker 2>such as Enoch Enoch. Right, that's a perfect example, is Enoch.

1227
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.719
<v Speaker 2>They're talking about Enoch in the Bible, and everybody's like, wait,

1228
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>where's this fucking book at then? You know, and so

1229
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what I like to do is personally, is that

1230
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I hear certain people they say certain things, and I'm like,

1231
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.599
<v Speaker 2>oh wait, Pierie Reese, let me, I never heard of this.

1232
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to look into it. And then that starts

1233
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole fucking rabbit hole. That's really how this whole

1234
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 2>thing even started in the first place. It was just

1235
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.159
<v Speaker 2>mentioned in passing. It was kind of one of those

1236
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 2>things that like they mentioned as if everybody knew, and

1237
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I never heard of. So I was like, all right,

1238
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 2>here we go.

1239
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 3>That's how I find a lot of my shit.

1240
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 4>That the one we just did on the Phoebus cartel, Right,

1241
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 4>I had saying something that just made a quick little

1242
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 4>mention of it and moved on to the next topic.

1243
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.920
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, I'm sorry, backup the what they did

1244
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 4>what with light bulbs? And then here we are a

1245
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 4>whole fucking episode spawned off of it. This is we

1246
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.760
<v Speaker 4>accidentally find ourselves doing research just in our personal lives.

1247
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Next thing, I've also told people too, like, dude, if

1248
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.920
<v Speaker 4>you and if I didn't have a podcast, I would

1249
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 4>still be looking into all of this shit anyway. This

1250
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 4>is this is what I geek out over, Like there's

1251
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 4>you can't turn it off. Even when I'm trying to relax,

1252
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 4>I can't help myself but find little innu windows and

1253
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:18.519
<v Speaker 4>little little tidbits of information that are dropped, and it's like,

1254
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm gonna need a little more clarification on that,

1255
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 4>my boy.

1256
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 3>And then here we are.

1257
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you hear a word, and then all of

1258
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:29.119
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, your your conspiracy pickles starts to rise and

1259
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 2>your pants a little bit and that's where.

1260
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 3>A start to jiggle. Dog, yeah, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is from a really fun website called the

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<v Speaker 2>Universe inside you dot Com and it's it dives into.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the more comprehensive articles that I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to find, just in regards to what other

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<v Speaker 2>people have done research into the pie race, perie rese

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<v Speaker 2>map and whatnot. But it's titled the Legendary perie rese

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<v Speaker 2>Map Explained.

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<v Speaker 8>So.

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<v Speaker 2>On October twenty ninth, nineteen twenty nine, researchers looking through old,

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01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>discre guarded documents at the library of top Cockpy Palace

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<v Speaker 2>in Istanbul, Turkey, unexpectedly stumbled across one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>important artifacts in world history, the Pirie Reefs map, lost

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01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 2>since the fifteen hundreds. The map's discovery caused an international

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01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 2>sensation as experts scrambled to explain its mysteries. No wonder,

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01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.559
<v Speaker 2>the map revealed entirely new and previously unimagined insights into

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01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the voyage of Christopher Columbus, the continent of Antarctica, even

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01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.039
<v Speaker 2>the very history of humanity itself. So here's a good,

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01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 2>a decent picture of it right here. So, yes, Pirie

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01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Reefs map is real, and it's spectacular and you can

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01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of see and I'll pull up a picture that

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01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.719
<v Speaker 2>points to better depictions and stuff like that, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you're looking at. But this is the portion,

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01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:52.039
<v Speaker 2>the third of the map that they're talking about. So wow,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting. So who was Pirie Reeves and why is

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01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 2>he important? So he was born in fourteen sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>in the historic seaport of Gallipoli, then part of the

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01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Ottoman Turkey. He began his career at sea, sailing alongside

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01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 2>his uncle, a notorious pirate and later an admiral in

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01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the Ottoman Navy, participating over the course of more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years in many naval battles. After his uncle died

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01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 2>suddenly during a storm in fifteen eleven, Peiri Rees returned

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01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to Gallipoli and began what would truly become his life's work,

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01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the Study of Navigation. It was through this work that

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<v Speaker 2>Piri Reas became one of the most influential maritime figures

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01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in world history. In fifteen twenty one, Reese put the

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<v Speaker 2>finishing touches on the Book of Navigation. Known as one

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<v Speaker 2>of the early geographical masterpieces, it contained detailed maps of

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01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the harbors and shores of the known world, alongside meticulous

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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 2>notes on everything from settlements to shipbuilding. The book would

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<v Speaker 2>serve as a guide to captains in the is it Agan, Aegean,

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01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Aegean and Mediterranean seas for three hundred years. Yet the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Navigation was not the most incredible thing that

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01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Peiri Reeves produced during his career. That came years earlier,

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01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.079
<v Speaker 2>in fifteen thirteen, when Reese put together the most detailed

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01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 2>map of the world ever created at that time. So

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01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:12.719
<v Speaker 2>now we get into the creation of the Peiri Rees

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01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:16.079
<v Speaker 2>map in fifteen thirteen, to which, by the way, it

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01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 2>said his dad just died two years before this. You know,

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01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:21.239
<v Speaker 2>he was one of the He was a pirate that

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01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 2>he turned into an admiral, ended up dying at sea

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01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 2>in a storm. So to construct his historic map, piri

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01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Res used twenty different maps in charts collected from different

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01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 2>cultures and different points in history. There were eight Ptolemaic

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01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 2>maps from the second century Greece, four Portuguese maps, and

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01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.920
<v Speaker 2>one Arabic map. Most significantly significantly, there was even one

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01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 2>map drawn by Christopher Columbus himself during his journey to

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01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the New World only twenty years prior, which Reese had

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<v Speaker 2>fortuitously acquired in fifteen oh one from a captured seaman

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01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 2>who had been with Columbus. That's pretty cool. So he

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<v Speaker 2>can behind all his sources into one comprehensive final form

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01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 2>known as the peirie Res Map. As one inscription on

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01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the map simply put it, no one living has seen

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01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 2>a map like this.

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<v Speaker 3>He was big dick in it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, nobody could possibly create a map that

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01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I've created like He was just like so proud and

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01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 2>he knew that he had one of the most comprehensive

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01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 2>maps ever created. Despite being one of the most incredible

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01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 2>documents that human beings have ever produced, the pie Res

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<v Speaker 2>Map was eventually lost to history, forgotten about for hundreds

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01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of years until it was surreptitiously rediscovered in nineteen twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>As modern scientists, researchers and naval experts all over the

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01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 2>world got their hands on copies of this historic artifact,

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01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:52.320
<v Speaker 2>they began to notice something remarkable, almost unbelievable features. So

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01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the map has amazingly accurate geography. First, the pie Res

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01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:01.239
<v Speaker 2>map displayed an extraordinary knowledge of global geography. It showed

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<v Speaker 2>the western coast of Europe and North Africa, the continent

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01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of South America, as well as numerous islands throughout the ocean. Moreover,

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01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 2>it had lengthy notes written by Piri Reefs himself, telling

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01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the stories behind the places on the map, a sort

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01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 2>of running commentary of the maritime history of humanity. There

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01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 2>were detailed notes on Columbus's first voyage, including his difficulties

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01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:27.599
<v Speaker 2>obtaining sponsorship and his encounters with native populations. There were

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01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:32.840
<v Speaker 2>notes on Cabril's accidental discovery of Brazil in fifteen hundred,

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01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and even notes on the voyage of Saint Brendan, a

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01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 2>sixth century Irish monk who discovered an island in the

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01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:43.119
<v Speaker 2>North Atlantic that he called the Promised Land of the Saints.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty wild, right, So think about how closely guarded.

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01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Maritime information was at this time the secrets of the

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01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 2>seas were what empires were built on. For Pirie rees

1351
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 2>to have all this information in one place was truly extraordinary.

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01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.559
<v Speaker 2>But there was more than that. So the map shows

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01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 2>South America in impossible detail. Experts quickly noticed something which

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01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 2>could not be explained, the incredible detail in which the

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01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Peiri Reefs map showed South America. How is this possible?

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01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Piri Reeves used the map of Christopher Columbus. But Columbus

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01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 2>had only been to the Caribbean. He had not visited

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01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 2>nor even mapped South America. Even the European expeditions, which

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01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:25.800
<v Speaker 2>had by fifteen thirteen only just begun to map the

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01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:29.119
<v Speaker 2>South American coast, had not mapped inland. Yet the Pirie

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01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Reefs map showed inland geographical features, the Andes mountains, rivers, territories,

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01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 2>and even animals. The only explanation seemed to be that

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus must have had access to local maps which showed

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<v Speaker 2>him these things. In other words, like Piri Reeves, Columbus

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01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.840
<v Speaker 2>had created his map not only from what he had

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01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.760
<v Speaker 2>seen directly, but from the maps of others.

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<v Speaker 3>Which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you would try and gather as much information

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01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.439
<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to create like an all inclusive kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. It's like imagine if you're you know, you

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01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.680
<v Speaker 2>don't go to ancestry or twenty three and meters or whatever,

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01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 2>but you're just trying to create your own family tree

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01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.279
<v Speaker 2>based upon information that your parents have told you, and

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01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 2>your grandparents have told you, and your cousins and your uncles,

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01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and you got to get it a little bit from everywhere,

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01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what Columbus was doing. But even more incredibly,

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01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Perry Reeves was doing on a much larger scale than

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01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:22.279
<v Speaker 4>even what Columbus was doing, because he also he had

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01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:25.279
<v Speaker 4>access to Columbus's maps, and that's what helped him map

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01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 4>some of the portions of this map.

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<v Speaker 3>So the and this is where.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets a little weird for the flat earthers out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna like this. Okay, uh oh, the Pirie

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01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Reefs map uses advanced spherical trigonometry. Okay, fifteen fifteen, thirteen,

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01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.439
<v Speaker 2>fifteen fifteen. Back then, I hate to say it, they

1387
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:49.319
<v Speaker 2>knew it. They knew the shit was round.

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01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if we're gonna get technical here, plenty of

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01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.640
<v Speaker 4>the elder who wrote the first what we today might

1390
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.880
<v Speaker 4>call an encyclopedia. Okay, it was called naturalist historia, which

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01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 4>was like the history of nature. And he had a

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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:06.239
<v Speaker 4>very comprehensive understanding of the world at that time. And

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01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.960
<v Speaker 4>we were talking first century AD. He even shit on

1394
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.760
<v Speaker 4>flat earthers in that book, so like we're talking before

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01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.279
<v Speaker 4>one hundred AD, they've been knowing it.

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01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:17.760
<v Speaker 3>But that's a conversation for another time.

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01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.680
<v Speaker 4>But like you said earlier, he was taking the Purie reefs,

1398
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 4>was taking maps from this source and from this source,

1399
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 4>and all these things. The Roman understanding of the world

1400
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 4>only went to just below the Saharan Desert. Like even

1401
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.119
<v Speaker 4>ancient Rome didn't know for sure what the southernmost tip

1402
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.359
<v Speaker 4>of Africa looked like. They assumed there was a southern tip,

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01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.399
<v Speaker 4>but they had no knowledge of what was on the

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01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:40.600
<v Speaker 4>other side of the Sahara for the.

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01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Most part, other than the lore and the legend.

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01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.520
<v Speaker 4>So when you're taking these compilations of all these other

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01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.039
<v Speaker 4>studies that people have done, these other explorers, and where

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01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.960
<v Speaker 4>what did you find, Where did you go, where'd you

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01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.319
<v Speaker 4>get the information from? For this guy to take that

1410
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.600
<v Speaker 4>all and compile it into a map in and of

1411
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:57.199
<v Speaker 4>itself is a massive undertaking.

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01:10:57.920 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And that's not to say that there aren't some flat

1413
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Earth anomalies. I love everything that the flat earthers look into,

1414
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 2>namely NASA, more than anything else. But you know, at

1415
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:11.039
<v Speaker 2>least this guy back in the fifth early fifteen hundreds,

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01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 2>he was using advanced spherical trigonometry.

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01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:16.279
<v Speaker 3>So upon closers.

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01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Sence, the sextint the thing that you would use to

1419
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 4>navigate back in these days you have to use spherical trigonometry.

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01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:24.720
<v Speaker 4>The only way that works is on a round globe

1421
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 4>shaped earth. Oh and his was a pirate, right, And

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01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.880
<v Speaker 4>that's my point. So like this dude being a seafaring guy,

1423
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.319
<v Speaker 4>his dad being a seafaring guy, all the dudes making

1424
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 4>these maps being seafaring guys.

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01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:37.359
<v Speaker 3>You can't use a sextint.

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01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Unless you're on a ball, Like, it doesn't work on

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01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 4>a flat plane. Some people actually argue about that, but

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01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:43.720
<v Speaker 4>it's incorrect.

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01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 2>They try to say that, like the sextont proves that

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01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:50.239
<v Speaker 2>the Earth is flat, which I'm not gonna lie. I

1431
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.600
<v Speaker 2>never really looked into all the details about a sexton

1432
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 2>so maybe it proves one way or another.

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01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You're charting the way the stars move across the sky,

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01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:01.399
<v Speaker 4>and that's what like the little thing is for. You're

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01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:03.479
<v Speaker 4>trying to gauge like this star was at this point

1437
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 4>so long ago. We've been moving this direction according to

1438
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 4>the compass. Now that star is over here, and you're

1439
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.800
<v Speaker 4>triangulating where you're at, and the only way that works

1440
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.600
<v Speaker 4>is off of a tangent, A line tangent. A line

1441
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.239
<v Speaker 4>tangent like that coming off of a ball.

1442
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Is what you would use for this.

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01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 4>But I'm not trying to shit on the flat earthers

1444
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.840
<v Speaker 4>with this conversation. All I'm saying is that is it

1445
01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:24.720
<v Speaker 4>makes sense that that would be the type of math

1446
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 4>that he's using because most navigators were using that map

1447
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 4>at this time as well.

1448
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 2>So upon closer examination, researchers noticed something even more unbelievable.

1449
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>It was clear that the map was using advanced spherical

1450
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 2>trigonometry in its measurements, a technique unavailable in the West

1451
01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 2>until the eighteenth century. Prior to that, it was impossible

1452
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>to accurately determine a ship's latitude in the Southern hemisphere,

1453
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 2>since the only known method for doing this involved citing

1454
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 2>the North Star, which can't be seen in the Southern

1455
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>hemisphere yet somehow pie the Pirie Reeves map had accurate

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01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 2>latitude measurements in the southern hemisphere. This meant that whatever

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01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.000
<v Speaker 2>local source maps Columbus had access to, those who made

1458
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 2>them had possessed an understanding of spherical trigonometry. They had

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01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the technology to navigate oceans and accurately chart the globe.

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01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no doubt so.

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01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.479
<v Speaker 2>The Pirirees map shows Antarctica without the ice. This was,

1462
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, whenever I looked into this, I was like,

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01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:27.199
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, all right, especially whenever you look into the

1464
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Antarctic Peace Treaty, which we're gonna talk about Admiral Byrd

1465
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and his discoveries and all that kind of stuff. We

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01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:35.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know shit or fuck about Antarctica. Let's just be real,

1467
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:36.760
<v Speaker 2>we really.

1468
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 4>We do have a guy that wins that's supposed to

1469
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 4>be coming on our show one of these days here soon.

1470
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 2>He went to the coast, went to the coast, not

1471
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.439
<v Speaker 2>saying that he charted the whole fucking place, but he

1472
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.640
<v Speaker 2>went to a part of Antarctica, which that's all one

1473
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.239
<v Speaker 2>can do. It's not like you can just stretch your

1474
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.479
<v Speaker 2>entire body across the whole land mess. That's not what

1475
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say, I'm just the conte, you know. Yeah,

1476
01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:59.640
<v Speaker 2>So the most the most astonishing part of the Peiri

1477
01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Reef was not its detailed geography, nor even its seemingly

1478
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 2>impossible advanced spherical trigonometry, but that it showed to It

1479
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:13.199
<v Speaker 2>appeared to show Antarctica, a continent which was not officially

1480
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:17.199
<v Speaker 2>discovered until Your Boy seventeen seventy three by James Cook.

1481
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>There he is no doubt, but it was more than

1482
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 2>just the appearance of the continent on the map created

1483
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.439
<v Speaker 2>in fifteen thirteen. It was that the Pirie Reece map

1484
01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>showed Antarctica without the ice. How could it be possible

1485
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 2>since the last time Antarctica was free of ice was

1486
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:34.640
<v Speaker 2>over six thousand years ago. Skeptics gave their best explanation

1487
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:37.479
<v Speaker 2>of the pier recemp supposedly showing the continent of Antarctica

1488
01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 2>without the ice. They argued that the portion of the

1489
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:43.439
<v Speaker 2>map which appeared to show Antarctica was actually just an

1490
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:47.439
<v Speaker 2>extension of the South American coastline that Pirie Reef simply

1491
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.439
<v Speaker 2>ran out of room and curled South America along the bottom.

1492
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 2>This explanation seemed to make sense until nineteen sixty one

1493
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that year, US Air Force captain and cartographer Lorenzo Burrows

1494
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:03.359
<v Speaker 2>compared the Antarctic coastline depicted on the Pirie Rees map

1495
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to modern maps constructed using satellite mapping technology. His conclusion

1496
01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:11.880
<v Speaker 2>was that the Antarctic coastline was, in his quotes, truly

1497
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.079
<v Speaker 2>represented on the southern sector of the Pirie Rees map.

1498
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Piri Reese's Antarctica was Antarctica, right.

1499
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:23.319
<v Speaker 4>Fuck and likes mentioned James Cook, remember that he was

1500
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.960
<v Speaker 4>sent to chart New Zealand. A subtangent of that was, Hey,

1501
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 4>while you're out there and you're in that southern part

1502
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 4>and all that, go see if this Tarra Australia is nonsense,

1503
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.199
<v Speaker 4>is a real place or not? Like it was still

1504
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 4>a myth at that point, right, So Perry Rees had

1505
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:42.079
<v Speaker 4>drawn it on his map, nobody knew for sure, because

1506
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.479
<v Speaker 4>even Piri Reese himself never went there to see it

1507
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 4>with his own eyes. So it's not like Cook was

1508
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 4>sent out to chart Antarctica. He was just while he

1509
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.880
<v Speaker 4>was in that area, decided all right, let's keep going

1510
01:15:52.920 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 4>south and let's see if there really is something here

1511
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.319
<v Speaker 4>or not. And that's what that conversation was. So it's

1512
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 4>it's completely it was a side tangent, right, this was

1513
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:07.279
<v Speaker 4>the first Antarctic exploration that had ever happened.

1514
01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:07.920
<v Speaker 3>That's my point.

1515
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 4>And to the other conversation about the flat earthers and stuff,

1516
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:12.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like I said, Perry Reis was sent there

1517
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.359
<v Speaker 4>and this was a side tangent, little side quest for him.

1518
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:17.720
<v Speaker 4>They didn't have enough food and provisions to make their

1519
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 4>way around the flat plate because that would have taken

1520
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 4>a lot longer to circumnavigate the flat plate than it

1521
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:27.279
<v Speaker 4>did to circumnavigate the continent of Antarcticle like you did.

1522
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm gonna say on that one, anyway. I mean,

1523
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I get it, and trust me, I've we've taught. How

1524
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:36.920
<v Speaker 2>many episodes on flat Earth have we done? Probably too many,

1525
01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty at least, right, and we're probably gonna be doing more.

1526
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine that there's gonna be more Flat

1527
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Earth episodes, and maybe somebody is going to, you know,

1528
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 2>make Jacob get that that tramp stamp of David Weiss's.

1529
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Face on his not highly unlikely.

1530
01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:58.439
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think that the only reason why

1531
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you're so against flatter Earth is because you're scared to

1532
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:05.039
<v Speaker 2>get David Weiss's face above your above your crack, sir.

1533
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:08.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, dude, a man of my word. But I'm again,

1534
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:12.079
<v Speaker 4>there's way too much true data. Again, the Perios map

1535
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.479
<v Speaker 4>would show a globe, all the ancient maps, all the

1536
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.840
<v Speaker 4>ancient people like, no matter which way you want to

1537
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:20.720
<v Speaker 4>aim the conversation, Yeah, NASA lies to us. I'm not

1538
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:23.520
<v Speaker 4>negating that. That doesn't mean that the Earth is flat

1539
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:26.000
<v Speaker 4>because NAS is a liar, DC lies to us. Does

1540
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:27.159
<v Speaker 4>that mean America is not real?

1541
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Like?

1542
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:27.920
<v Speaker 8>What?

1543
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 3>The two can't The two don't necessarily have to mean

1544
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:31.439
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. Bro.

1545
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I am in the in the vicinity of some people

1546
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.199
<v Speaker 2>that believe that there is more to this earth than

1547
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:40.600
<v Speaker 2>what they're telling us. So sure, whenever, you know, even

1548
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.279
<v Speaker 2>even the conversation of yeah, it might be a globe,

1549
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.840
<v Speaker 2>but could it be a bigger globe than what they're saying,

1550
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:49.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't have access to that. You know, it's kind

1551
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:51.680
<v Speaker 2>of just taking it on faith that these people actually

1552
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:55.079
<v Speaker 2>are being truthful, right, and you know, and that's always

1553
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:57.640
<v Speaker 2>a bad thing, usually to a level.

1554
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily disagree.

1555
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:02.279
<v Speaker 4>But again, we're talking about back in these days, right

1556
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:05.399
<v Speaker 4>the seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds or dudes, with wooden ships

1557
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 4>with sails were making their way from point A to

1558
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 4>point B. Y know, when you ran out of food

1559
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.319
<v Speaker 4>and water, you started eating your crew members.

1560
01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Like, that's a real thing that happened. Cannibalism on sea

1561
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 3>was a real thing.

1562
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:17.800
<v Speaker 4>There was books written about like who you should kill first,

1563
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.159
<v Speaker 4>and how you shouldn't eat your cousin because typically seafaring

1564
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:23.119
<v Speaker 4>was like a family trade, so like, it's not ideal

1565
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:24.279
<v Speaker 4>kind of thing, and there's.

1566
01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Rules to all these things. You wouldn't just pack up

1567
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:29.399
<v Speaker 3>with all that you needed and hope for the best.

1568
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.319
<v Speaker 4>You plotted her course correctly and you brought enough food

1569
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 4>and provisions for that type of journey. You can't do

1570
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.520
<v Speaker 4>that unless you know the distance you're trying to travel.

1571
01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 4>They had a very good understanding of that by that point.

1572
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>And there was also a lot of gainus that was

1573
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>going on there because you know, you're in prison for

1574
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.640
<v Speaker 2>ten years, those boys start to look like girls, you

1575
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And there were also fucking manatees,

1576
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:55.039
<v Speaker 2>which some people believe that that's where the idea of

1577
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:56.520
<v Speaker 2>mermaids came from.

1578
01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yes, there's levels to that too.

1579
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 4>But point is, if the earth was larger than what

1580
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.159
<v Speaker 4>we thought it was, or larger than what we've been

1581
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:05.800
<v Speaker 4>told it is.

1582
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.279
<v Speaker 3>We would have way more crews.

1583
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:10.640
<v Speaker 4>Of ships that died because they literally starved to death

1584
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:14.039
<v Speaker 4>because they didn't know the distance, but they did because

1585
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:14.439
<v Speaker 4>they did.

1586
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I mean, and there are there, dude,

1587
01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, there's probably so many damn

1588
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 2>ships at the bottom of the seafloor that we will

1589
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:25.880
<v Speaker 2>never know about. So it is possible that there are

1590
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 2>people that tried to discover certain lands and that they

1591
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 2>just never were able to come back with that information.

1592
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.079
<v Speaker 3>It's very possible. It's very possible.

1593
01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:39.319
<v Speaker 2>So in in that book you're I'm sorry, the Air

1594
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Force captain and cartographer Burrows he is. He asserted that

1595
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:46.960
<v Speaker 2>this meant beyond a reasonable doubt that the original source

1596
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.800
<v Speaker 2>maps must have been made before the present Antarctic ice

1597
01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:53.760
<v Speaker 2>cap covered the continent. Now that was an Air Force

1598
01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:57.399
<v Speaker 2>captain Ain't no scrub saying all that. And he was

1599
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.279
<v Speaker 2>a he was a cartographer for the Air Force, right, Like,

1600
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had some technology. He was using satellite

1601
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>mapping and stuff like that. He was like, holy shit,

1602
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>how did pier Res get this right? It makes no sense. Right,

1603
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, all right, well, and if that

1604
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 2>map was showing that there was no ice, then maybe

1605
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>this is Maybe this is the craziest part because since

1606
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.279
<v Speaker 2>the last time Antarctica was free of ice was over

1607
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:25.479
<v Speaker 2>six thousand years ago, this meant that the local source

1608
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:29.000
<v Speaker 2>maps used by Christopher Columbus had to be at least

1609
01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:33.479
<v Speaker 2>that old. If we are suggesting that the the you know,

1610
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:37.119
<v Speaker 2>the Antarctica was covered by ice up until at least

1611
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:39.880
<v Speaker 2>six thousand years ago, that would point that the maps

1612
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:42.319
<v Speaker 2>are even older than that allegedly.

1613
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:43.319
<v Speaker 3>And that would make sense.

1614
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Right, Columbus made his trip in fourteen ninety two, so

1615
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.840
<v Speaker 4>that does predate the pie Res maps. So if they're

1616
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.560
<v Speaker 4>going off of the same source material, right, they're going

1617
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:53.439
<v Speaker 4>off of the same legends and lore of what's at

1618
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.159
<v Speaker 4>the most southernmost point in all these things, they would

1619
01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.279
<v Speaker 4>be deriving from the same type of source.

1620
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:00.600
<v Speaker 3>So that makes sense to me that whatever the.

1621
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Source that pirie Reefs was fucking with is the same

1622
01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:05.880
<v Speaker 4>source that Columbus was fucking with. That would say that, yes,

1623
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:09.000
<v Speaker 4>there's land down there and it's lush, green vegetation. But again,

1624
01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:11.680
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about a legend or word of mouth or

1625
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:16.159
<v Speaker 4>map itself. Who knows that is pre dating four thousand BC.

1626
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:17.399
<v Speaker 4>That's fucking insane.

1627
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so who could have made such advanced maps that

1628
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>long ago? The pirie Reeves map is real, it just

1629
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:28.520
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense. So then they start getting into the

1630
01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 2>pirie Res Map explained a little bit. So according to

1631
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:35.159
<v Speaker 2>some the mystery of the pirie Rees Map has been solved.

1632
01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>The secret is something called the pole shift theory. So

1633
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a pole shift is when the entire surface of the

1634
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Earth suddenly moves as one solid piece of the layers

1635
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of liquid rock that make up the Earth's corp. The

1636
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.640
<v Speaker 2>illustrative analogy most often used today is that of the

1637
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>loose peel moving around an orange. That's interesting. So the

1638
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.680
<v Speaker 2>pole shift theory entered popular consciousness thanks in large part

1639
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:03.439
<v Speaker 2>to Charles Hapgood's book nineteen fifty eight book called the

1640
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Earth's Shifting Crust. The book's forward was written by none

1641
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:11.840
<v Speaker 2>other than Albert Einstein, who helped Hapgood to develop the theory.

1642
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:16.720
<v Speaker 2>As usual, Einstein was ahead of his time, and science

1643
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 2>has now proven that polar shifts have happened in the past.

1644
01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:23.520
<v Speaker 2>But it was Charles Hapgoods who put the pieces together

1645
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.479
<v Speaker 2>and used the shifting Pole's theory to explain the Perierees map.

1646
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.439
<v Speaker 2>According to Halfgood, some of the local source maps that

1647
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Columbus used showed Antarctica in such incredible detail because

1648
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:38.159
<v Speaker 2>they were created by the inhabitants of the Antarctic continent

1649
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.239
<v Speaker 2>before the rapid poll shift buried them under the ice

1650
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.439
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years ago. The reason these ancient source maps

1651
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:48.319
<v Speaker 2>were so advanced using spherical trigonometry was that they must

1652
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:52.359
<v Speaker 2>have come from an incredibly advanced ancient civilization. For Hapgood,

1653
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the identity of this advanced civilization was obvious Atlantis, and yes.

1654
01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:03.479
<v Speaker 4>Could be honestly, they have currently archaeological teams in Antarctica

1655
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:05.439
<v Speaker 4>that are drilling down through the ice and they are

1656
01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:09.039
<v Speaker 4>finding remnants of lush, green vegetation. So we know for

1657
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.079
<v Speaker 4>a fact that Antarctica at one time, beyond any shadow

1658
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:16.439
<v Speaker 4>of any doubt, absolutely was very not gonna say, tropical,

1659
01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:19.920
<v Speaker 4>but was very capable of sustaining life. And I personally

1660
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:23.800
<v Speaker 4>do believe in the polar shift theory, not just because

1661
01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.439
<v Speaker 4>Einstein said it, but I mean even still, the South

1662
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Pole moves every year. They go out and put like

1663
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:32.159
<v Speaker 4>a brass hockey puck on the spot that is the

1664
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 4>current south pole, and next year they have to go

1665
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:36.319
<v Speaker 4>out and rechart it and put it somewhere else, and

1666
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.159
<v Speaker 4>there's level set. Some of that is because of plate

1667
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:40.880
<v Speaker 4>tectonic shift and all these things, but I also believe

1668
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:44.520
<v Speaker 4>that the poles are ever so slowly shifting around our Earth,

1669
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:49.039
<v Speaker 4>and if the polar shift theory is as drastic as

1670
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:52.239
<v Speaker 4>some has perspected, that would be possibly the cause of

1671
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 4>the Younger Dryest because essentially they're talking about, let's say

1672
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:58.680
<v Speaker 4>the ball is spinning like this out of nowhere, and

1673
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:01.399
<v Speaker 4>it starts spinning like this, Like what kind of violence

1674
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:03.159
<v Speaker 4>is that gonna look like on Earth?

1675
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:05.760
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty incredible to look at.

1676
01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Yeah, well, and that also kind of pokes

1677
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>a hole in the whole flat earth theory if you

1678
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>think about it, because what flat earthers say is that

1679
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it's flat and motionless, right.

1680
01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:19.640
<v Speaker 3>They don't understand it personally.

1681
01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>This points to I mean, and maybe you could say

1682
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:26.520
<v Speaker 2>that maybe it's maybe the Earth is still motionless from

1683
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that perspective, and that just the crust beneath us is shifting.

1684
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I feel like there's probably gonna.

1685
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Like make fifteen different mental hoops to jump through to

1686
01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:39.640
<v Speaker 4>make it make sense to say it's too much. I'm sorry,

1687
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:42.199
<v Speaker 4>the Earth is round, y'all not trying to show that's

1688
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 4>not what the point of this episode is. We're not

1689
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:45.680
<v Speaker 4>here to shit on flat earthers on this episode. But

1690
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:48.359
<v Speaker 4>at this point, like it's it's just what it is.

1691
01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

1692
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:53.640
<v Speaker 2>But according to Haguod, what inspired him to write this whole,

1693
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:59.119
<v Speaker 2>this whole shifting of the poles theory was not only

1694
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 2>just with the help of Albert Einstein. So Albert Einstein

1695
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was he helped essentially he wrote the forward to Halfgod's book, right.

1696
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Einstein helped write the forward to this book, helped him

1697
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>create a lot of the chapters in this book and everything.

1698
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:17.439
<v Speaker 2>And this guy was saying that according to Hapgood, according

1699
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to him, Antarctica is Atlantis and the Perie Reese map

1700
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:26.239
<v Speaker 2>is proof. So is the mystery solved or not? I

1701
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know who knows, That's what I'm saying that, Like,

1702
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>that's why I was so fascinated by this in the

1703
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>first place, because maybe it answers a whole bevy of questions,

1704
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like how did they know about Antarctica? Way

1705
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>before this was the knowledge of circumnavigation, and was there

1706
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>ancient advanced civilizations that had some kind of technology, And

1707
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>if that ancient technology comes from somewhere, could we be

1708
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.840
<v Speaker 2>looking at Antarctica being essentially agent Atlantis?

1709
01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:57.560
<v Speaker 3>It very well could be.

1710
01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:00.880
<v Speaker 4>And also when we use the term like advance civilizations,

1711
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:04.079
<v Speaker 4>we do. I mean, yes, we could be talking about

1712
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:07.680
<v Speaker 4>like flying craft and these types of things. We could

1713
01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:10.319
<v Speaker 4>also be talking about if you had a civilization in

1714
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:14.640
<v Speaker 4>the year five thousand BC that had the knowledge and

1715
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:19.159
<v Speaker 4>the technology to circumnavigate the globe, you understand that they

1716
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.319
<v Speaker 4>are thousands of years advanced beyond anybody else on Earth

1717
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 4>at that time.

1718
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:24.039
<v Speaker 3>That would be advanced.

1719
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 4>Now, that's not advanced to us today, but that would

1720
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:30.600
<v Speaker 4>be drastically advanced to their contemporaries.

1721
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:33.439
<v Speaker 3>So that's the other thing. When we hear the term advanced.

1722
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Technology, a lot of people immediately insinuate like the movie Atlantis, right,

1723
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:40.239
<v Speaker 4>the Disney cartoon, which, for the record, one of the

1724
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:44.640
<v Speaker 4>best best cartoons that I've ever seen made. This is

1725
01:26:44.920 --> 01:26:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the CGI killed what could have been an amazing art form.

1726
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:52.000
<v Speaker 4>That's a conversation for another day. But they immediately think like, oh,

1727
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:55.520
<v Speaker 4>they had stone flying crafts that could have done this,

1728
01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:00.000
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, okay, maybe, but also understand that if

1729
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.520
<v Speaker 4>this civilization had the ability to move a ship from

1730
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Antarctica to Europe, that was way more advanced than anyone

1731
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:09.600
<v Speaker 4>else on Earth was fucking with at that time.

1732
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, maybe they were messing around with levitation

1733
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and anti gravity and there's no way of knowing that's

1734
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>the point.

1735
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Or maybe they literally had figured out how a sale works,

1736
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.039
<v Speaker 4>which up until that point everything was by ors.

1737
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

1738
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 2>And if you think about it, this and this is

1739
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>what some people speculate. Maybe you're not of the mind

1740
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.319
<v Speaker 2>that aliens and UFOs and stuff like that come from

1741
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:37.399
<v Speaker 2>outer space. Maybe they're not interdimensional. Could they be from

1742
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>lands that we are either a haven't discovered or b

1743
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>are off limits or you know, something like that. Could

1744
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 2>they be coming from beyond the known world and we're.

1745
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:52.800
<v Speaker 4>In our oceans, not even land that we haven't discovered,

1746
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:53.960
<v Speaker 4>just underwater shit.

1747
01:27:54.319 --> 01:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Which is mostly undiscovered, right right, you know which? Anyway,

1748
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:03.399
<v Speaker 2>so now I wanted to bring in your boy Dick

1749
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Bird and Operation high Jump. His name is Richard Byrd,

1750
01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>But come on, anytime you see a Richard, it's Dick

1751
01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>automatic old dick old Dick, So what did he find?

1752
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So we're going to jump to nineteen forty six, long

1753
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>after the Pirie Reeves and everything else, and Admiral Richard E.

1754
01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Byrd he led Operation High Jump forty seven hundred men,

1755
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>thirteen ships and an aircraft. Officially it was scientific research.

1756
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Unofficially could it have been a military expedition to secure Antarctica.

1757
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>When Bird returned, he made bizarre statements. Antarctica is the

1758
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>most important place on Earth for science, but it is

1759
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.039
<v Speaker 2>also the land of mystery. A land beyond the pole.

1760
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:53.039
<v Speaker 2>That's his quote. That's not from the Possible diary. That's

1761
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 2>like him saying it. It's you can find a video

1762
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of him saying that a land beyond the pole a

1763
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>land of mystery. Some say Bird encountered massive underground structures

1764
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>UFO activity or possibly even entrances to hollow Earth, which, dude,

1765
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I want to believe in hollow Earth so bad. I

1766
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>want to do a whole another episode on that, because

1767
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it's been a while since we've we haven't talked about

1768
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:18.159
<v Speaker 2>hollow Earth in a couple of years, and I think

1769
01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that there's more to touch on it beyond just you know,

1770
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.399
<v Speaker 2>the Admiral Bird's journals and diaries and stuff like that,

1771
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>but like, maybe there has to be more information about it.

1772
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that there has to be. I don't want

1773
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to say a hollow earth, but maybe could there just

1774
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>be civilization living beneath our feet and that's just where

1775
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>they dwell. You know, we talk about all the different

1776
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>tunnels around the world and all the different the doomsday

1777
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>bunkers and stuff like that, underground cities. I fully believe

1778
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that there's some kind of underground cities. Does that point

1779
01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to the earth being hollow? Not necessarily, but it would

1780
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>be cooler if, you know, because the people that talk

1781
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>about the hollow earth, they say there's a whole nother

1782
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>there's huge animals, there's even bigger plants, the oxygen's a

1783
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit more pure. That's the kind of shit that

1784
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in. And if that's real, Holy fuck, I

1785
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>want to go. I mean, there's all kinds of underground

1786
01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>cities that we have found, right, caves that have been

1787
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 2>carved out in these types of things. I don't I'm

1788
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:24.199
<v Speaker 2>not saying that I disbelieve in civilizations that are living

1789
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>underground currently to this day.

1790
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 4>I just also don't believe it either. I put in

1791
01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:31.239
<v Speaker 4>that weird gray area of maybe. And I'm not saying

1792
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:34.199
<v Speaker 4>like the underground mole people or the ant people or.

1793
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Something like that. Who's to say, one way or another?

1794
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Is it possible that there is what we might, for

1795
01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:42.520
<v Speaker 4>lack of better words, call an alien civilization that are

1796
01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:47.439
<v Speaker 4>living two thousand feet below the our surface of dirt.

1797
01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:51.840
<v Speaker 4>How can you tell me that's incorrect? How would we

1798
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:53.199
<v Speaker 4>know that that's incorrect?

1799
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I you know, how would we know?

1800
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, honestly, whenever, because you don't believe

1801
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:02.119
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of mythological shit, especially like hollow Earth

1802
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

1803
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 3>And it just reminds me.

1804
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Of one of the best YouTube videos of all time,

1805
01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>which was the unicorns that were going to Candy Mountain

1806
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and the unicorn Fuck yeah.

1807
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I used to always say.

1808
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Shun no no no no no, no, no no the

1809
01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:19.399
<v Speaker 2>non believers. That's you, sir. You're the non believer. You

1810
01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>need to open up your fucking mind and think what

1811
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>if all of this shit is real? Not not to

1812
01:31:24.760 --> 01:31:28.399
<v Speaker 2>always look for proof that it isn't, but imagine for

1813
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>what it could be.

1814
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, if I'm just lett my imagination go for

1815
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:35.079
<v Speaker 4>a ride, then absolutely I can imagine anything. But I

1816
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:37.840
<v Speaker 4>also try to live in the world of reality, so

1817
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I try to, you know, having a It's like saying,

1818
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.720
<v Speaker 4>what if the Transformers movie was based off of real

1819
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>events and that is a real thing that happens. It's

1820
01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:50.199
<v Speaker 4>a fun imagination. Absolutely, I don't believe that's a true statement.

1821
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, imagination and reality. Sometimes the lines get a

1822
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit blurred. Based upon your perception, you know, that's

1823
01:31:56.920 --> 01:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>what they say that you know imagine, I mean your

1824
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:04.039
<v Speaker 2>reality is based upon your perception. Perception is reality essentially?

1825
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Like what if? What if superheroes were real?

1826
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Like that is That's a fun thought process to have,

1827
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:11.319
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not knocking it.

1828
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not shitting on Marvel or DC. These are fun things.

1829
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you.

1830
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.159
<v Speaker 4>But I'm also of the belief that if superheroes are real,

1831
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.479
<v Speaker 4>we'd be having more of a situation like the Boys.

1832
01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:22.479
<v Speaker 2>Than we have with Marvel. Probably that's just my two cents.

1833
01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 4>And so seeing as how we don't have that kind

1834
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:26.840
<v Speaker 4>of shit happening, I'm not of the belief that they're real.

1835
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:30.239
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, yeah, the underground civilizations, could they be real?

1836
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Very possibly? And I'm honestly I don't have like a

1837
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:37.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch of information to negate that they aren't real. I'm

1838
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:39.880
<v Speaker 4>just saying I also don't have a lot of information

1839
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>to say that they are real. That's why I put

1840
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.479
<v Speaker 4>in that gray area. I'm not shitting on the underground civilizations.

1841
01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not shitting on hollow earth. I am more on

1842
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.359
<v Speaker 4>the side of not believing it. But I don't outright

1843
01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:51.600
<v Speaker 4>think it's bullshit either.

1844
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Jacob is what we like to call left brained, just

1845
01:32:56.239 --> 01:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>very articulate, very what I say see is what I

1846
01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>believe kind of thing, and there's nothing wrong with that.

1847
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, let's get a little bit over to potentially

1848
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Nazi Antarctica.

1849
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Now, are we still in the Admiral Berg conversation?

1850
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Because I got two videos of him pulled up where

1851
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:16.399
<v Speaker 4>he speaks about it.

1852
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you actually go ahead, I was.

1853
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to mention him kind of in passing,

1854
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:24.199
<v Speaker 2>because you can't mention Antarctica without Dick Bird.

1855
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.319
<v Speaker 3>All right, So both of these videos are short. Nothing's

1856
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>really long here.

1857
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.279
<v Speaker 4>This is just under four minutes of him speaking on

1858
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:34.399
<v Speaker 4>behalf of what he saw when he flew over Antarctica.

1859
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.399
<v Speaker 9>Myself, I think we have a good chance to avoid

1860
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:47.479
<v Speaker 9>wall Oh they'll blu snash him. Yeah, but if we

1861
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:54.479
<v Speaker 9>unfortunately God forbid, don't have a waw, much of it

1862
01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:58.399
<v Speaker 9>will be fought across the top of the world, across

1863
01:33:58.880 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 9>the pole.

1864
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Sure, he keeps going in and out of being very

1865
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:08.079
<v Speaker 4>quiet because the audio is trash, but he's talking about

1866
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:10.520
<v Speaker 4>avoiding war with Hitler. Hold on, so you had I

1867
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:15.000
<v Speaker 4>don't think you read the title reverse speech.

1868
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, maybe that's not the best video to play.

1869
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Here we go admal.

1870
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Bird talking about Antarctica unexplored land on Chronoscope in nineteen

1871
01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:25.640
<v Speaker 4>fifty eight. Let's go here a right. Hopefully it's not

1872
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 4>going to be as crazy.

1873
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.199
<v Speaker 6>I must say that Admiral byrd our guest tonight is

1874
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.880
<v Speaker 6>not only our greatest living explorer, but he's been an

1875
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:37.000
<v Speaker 6>inspiration to countless Americans. Is there any unexplored land left

1876
01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 6>on this earth that might appeal to adventurous young Americans?

1877
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Ah?

1878
01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.600
<v Speaker 10>Yes there is, and not up around the North Pole

1879
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:47.520
<v Speaker 10>because it's getting crowded up then now because they find

1880
01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:52.119
<v Speaker 10>out it's really useaful not only to live in but militarily,

1881
01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:56.399
<v Speaker 10>but strangely enough, as left in the world today, an

1882
01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:59.640
<v Speaker 10>area as big as the United States. That's never been

1883
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:02.760
<v Speaker 10>seen a human being, and it's I think it's quite

1884
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:06.720
<v Speaker 10>astonishing that they shouldn't be an area as big as

1885
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:12.119
<v Speaker 10>that unexplored. But more important than that, it's it has

1886
01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:16.000
<v Speaker 10>to do with the future of the nation, those to

1887
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:20.720
<v Speaker 10>come after us, or even doing a lifetime because it

1888
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:24.840
<v Speaker 10>happens to be an untouched reservoir of natural resources.

1889
01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>And in the future, I can see a time when it.

1890
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:32.159
<v Speaker 10>Will be very very important, very very employed, very employing,

1891
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:34.520
<v Speaker 10>very employing. Y.

1892
01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So, my Antarctica, dude, untapped resources, that's what I'm saying.

1893
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>If it's just fucking ice, you know what I'm saying,

1894
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>like that, maybe there is a little bit more. And

1895
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>then just a few years after he dies, there's the

1896
01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>whole Antarctic Peace Treaty where what was it, sixty or

1897
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:53.439
<v Speaker 2>seventy different countries all come together to say, like we're

1898
01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>all going to work together on discovering this land. It's like,

1899
01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:59.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, when was the last time that

1900
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>that many unries came together. I mean, even bricks can't

1901
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>fucking get their shit together, you know what I'm saying,

1902
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh they cannot.

1903
01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:07.000
<v Speaker 4>All right, let me see, there is another one that's

1904
01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:10.479
<v Speaker 4>back from the South Pole is immediately following his return

1905
01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:13.760
<v Speaker 4>to the States from his journey to the South Pole.

1906
01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:15.439
<v Speaker 3>So it's all still fresh in his mind.

1907
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:19.039
<v Speaker 4>He's got some things to say about it, let's see, okay,

1908
01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>So in their mind it's just it's a it's a

1909
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:22.279
<v Speaker 4>silent video clip.

1910
01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Never mind.

1911
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Then this is him on the boat returning back there.

1912
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:28.680
<v Speaker 4>He is handsome gentlemen looking on dapper and they're throwing

1913
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:31.239
<v Speaker 4>them a whole parade. Man, this dude's a hero at

1914
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:34.199
<v Speaker 4>this time. Nineteen thirty Wow, all right, anyway.

1915
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So moving on, So Nazi Antarctica, Operation New Schwabenland.

1916
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:42.520
<v Speaker 3>We've all heard of this one.

1917
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So in nineteen thirty eight, nineteen thirty nine, the Nazis

1918
01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:52.119
<v Speaker 2>launched Operation New Schwabenland, exploring Queen Maudland, the very.

1919
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Area that pie Rees mapped.

1920
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Officially they were scouting for whaling routes, but they planted flags,

1921
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:02.159
<v Speaker 2>they built outposts, and allegedly exd ancient structures. Some say

1922
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that they found Atlantean relics or alien tech and tried

1923
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to weaponize it. But was Bird's mission a direct response

1924
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>to Nazi discoveries. The Nazis were obsessed with ancient tech

1925
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and occult knowledge. If they found something in Antarctica, do

1926
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you think that that explains why the US scrambled to

1927
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:23.079
<v Speaker 2>send forty seven hundred troops there just a few years later. So,

1928
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, say what you want about the Nazis and

1929
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>going to Antarctica, but we absolutely know that they were

1930
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with finding occult things. And I think that it

1931
01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>is pretty interesting about how officially they were just going

1932
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>for scouting whaling routes. But why are you building, you know,

1933
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:45.199
<v Speaker 2>and excavating structures and shit like that if you're only

1934
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>searching for whaling routes.

1935
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:48.640
<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing. We know that that was a

1936
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:52.039
<v Speaker 4>complete cover up. Now for what purpose? Was it for

1937
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Atlantean relics? Was it for lost lands? Was it for

1938
01:37:56.720 --> 01:37:59.760
<v Speaker 4>We know for sure it wasn't for whaling routes. Nobody

1939
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:03.640
<v Speaker 4>in the last two centuries has talked about the thriving

1940
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:08.159
<v Speaker 4>German whaling industry, And yeah, I understand that they at

1941
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:09.680
<v Speaker 4>that point. I don't even think they were losing the

1942
01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:11.840
<v Speaker 4>war at that point. It was expensive for them to

1943
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:15.159
<v Speaker 4>send outposts and men and all these logistics to Antarctica.

1944
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:17.600
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't have done that for just no purpose.

1945
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:19.239
<v Speaker 4>And they sure the fuck weren't doing it so they

1946
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.920
<v Speaker 4>could bring back metric fucked tons of whale blubber for

1947
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:26.439
<v Speaker 4>the German people to eat. No, that's absolutely horseshit. And

1948
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:29.520
<v Speaker 4>they weren't using the whale oil for their lamps. They

1949
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:33.079
<v Speaker 4>had panzer divisions, mechanized units. They needed diesel fuel, not

1950
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:36.640
<v Speaker 4>whale blubber. So it just that whole conversation is stupid

1951
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:39.119
<v Speaker 4>to me, Like, right off the rip, Now, what were

1952
01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:42.279
<v Speaker 4>they doing in Antarctica? Now we're talking Amal Bird is

1953
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:47.039
<v Speaker 4>saying that this area is rich with coal, oil, uranium,

1954
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:49.960
<v Speaker 4>natural resources that we would need, not just America, but

1955
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.640
<v Speaker 4>the world needs in order to thrive and grow. Were

1956
01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:56.000
<v Speaker 4>the Nazis trying to set up a off grid, so

1957
01:38:56.079 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 4>to speak, oil drilling operation. Were they going out for

1958
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.279
<v Speaker 4>occult reasons to find ancient relics that they could use

1959
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:04.039
<v Speaker 4>and weaponize.

1960
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:05.840
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. These are one of these things I

1961
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:07.359
<v Speaker 3>think is lost to the sands of time.

1962
01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>And to quote the little man from me, myself and Irene,

1963
01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>she'll be eating well blubber all right, just as soon

1964
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>as I free Willie.

1965
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where you were going with that.

1966
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>God damn oh man, what a classic quote. But yeah,

1967
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean I think that Antarctica is

1968
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:28.119
<v Speaker 2>such an anomaly and it's so secretive and for them

1969
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>just to be drilling for minerals and oil. I think

1970
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it's much more beyond that. But we're never gonna be

1971
01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>privy to it, especially whenever you look at some of

1972
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Like the thing about like Google Earth is that it

1973
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>fucking blurs a lot of shit out, So whenever people

1974
01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:45.199
<v Speaker 2>start talking about it and they're like, oh wait, wait, wait,

1975
01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>wait what did we just show them, and so they

1976
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:49.720
<v Speaker 2>start blurting it out. We talked about that with you know,

1977
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>just off a coast of Long Beach in California, about

1978
01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:55.720
<v Speaker 2>that like, I don't know, fucking weird looking port that

1979
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>is now.

1980
01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Underwater, sycamore nole, dude.

1981
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, And so people have discovered a lot of things

1982
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:05.920
<v Speaker 2>on Antarctica just by looking at Google Earth, which now

1983
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>they've come to like redact and blur out. My thing is,

1984
01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:11.439
<v Speaker 2>why the fuck are you blurring shit out? Why would

1985
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you blur anything out? I mean, it's just saying with

1986
01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the Grand Canyon exactly, Yeah, a lot of it's blurred out.

1987
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>So in what people were finding in Antarctica, just by

1988
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>looking at Google Earth as fucking.

1989
01:40:22.359 --> 01:40:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Pyramids, which it's like, oh my god.

1990
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we're talking that the ice started to

1991
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.640
<v Speaker 2>really hit their big time around six thousand years ago,

1992
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean people suggest that, you know, some of the

1993
01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.079
<v Speaker 2>pyramids of even Egypt were around what four thousand BC,

1994
01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:43.159
<v Speaker 2>right twenty five hundred, which would make it even crazier

1995
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:46.720
<v Speaker 2>if the Antarctic pyramids were there even before the Egyptian.

1996
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:48.479
<v Speaker 3>Ones were, then yeah, yeah, I agree.

1997
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So and then you start to look into why is

1998
01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica so restricted? So since nineteen fifty nine, the Antarctic

1999
01:40:55.720 --> 01:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Peace Treaty has forbidden independent exploration, no drill, no settlements.

2000
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:02.119
<v Speaker 3>And they say that it's to.

2001
01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Protect the environment, But why do world leaders keep on visiting,

2002
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Why has the pope been there? And why are parts

2003
01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:12.159
<v Speaker 2>of Antarctica blurred out on Google Earth? What's really going on?

2004
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:15.800
<v Speaker 2>If it's just penguins and ice, what's all the secrecy?

2005
01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I mean there's there's people that are currently

2006
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:23.560
<v Speaker 4>in Antarctica that are content creators. As a matter of fact,

2007
01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>you can see their YouTube channels. They drop weekly things

2008
01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:28.159
<v Speaker 4>about like living in Antarctica and this, this and this.

2009
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.359
<v Speaker 4>There's resorts that you can go and visit as a

2010
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:32.239
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, and the warmer season and all of this,

2011
01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:34.920
<v Speaker 4>but you can't just explore the entire continent.

2012
01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, some of that may be.

2013
01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:41.880
<v Speaker 4>And realistically it's treacherous, it's cold as fuck. If you

2014
01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:43.960
<v Speaker 4>get turned around out there and lost, like yo, no

2015
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:46.720
<v Speaker 4>one's coming to get you like that's that's and I

2016
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:50.560
<v Speaker 4>understand that conversation for sure. And I could even understand

2017
01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:52.840
<v Speaker 4>because we don't own the entire continent. We own a

2018
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:55.319
<v Speaker 4>section of it, right. They've been, they've piecemealed it out,

2019
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:57.439
<v Speaker 4>and there's certain countries that have certain sections like a

2020
01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:02.079
<v Speaker 4>big pie chart. So I understand why maybe the Netherlands,

2021
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:03.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know if they have a section. I'm

2022
01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:06.079
<v Speaker 4>just throwing out a random country here. Why their section?

2023
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:08.319
<v Speaker 4>They don't want American google Maps to be able to

2024
01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:08.920
<v Speaker 4>zoom in.

2025
01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:11.560
<v Speaker 3>On that that's state secrets over there or something.

2026
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I understand the conversation at least, But if you're also

2027
01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:18.399
<v Speaker 4>saying that there's nothing there but ice, I find it

2028
01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:20.359
<v Speaker 4>odd that you go out of your way to blur it.

2029
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:22.760
<v Speaker 4>The same way I find it odd that you're telling

2030
01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:25.319
<v Speaker 4>me the grand canon, the entirety of that is in

2031
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.520
<v Speaker 4>the United States. Why are you blurring out what you're

2032
01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:31.920
<v Speaker 4>saying is just naturally formed rocks from.

2033
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Water erosion over a very long period of time. Why

2034
01:42:34.399 --> 01:42:37.600
<v Speaker 3>blur that out? That makes no sense, right, right?

2035
01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And so it's it's just so fascinating, and people can

2036
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>make what they want of the pyramids that you can

2037
01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:46.159
<v Speaker 2>see on Google Earth. I'm actually about to pull up

2038
01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>one that somebody found on Google Earth.

2039
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:51.239
<v Speaker 3>It is, go for it.

2040
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you think it's if you think it's

2041
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:55.439
<v Speaker 2>just mountains, I could understand why you would think that.

2042
01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>But that is a strange looking mountain, you know what

2043
01:42:59.239 --> 01:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

2044
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:01.640
<v Speaker 3>See, I think this might be the mentain I saw

2045
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:02.439
<v Speaker 3>as a matter of fact.

2046
01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Where the going conversation is that basically a glacial landslide

2047
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:12.279
<v Speaker 4>took place, and that's why it's formed this way. All right, Okay,

2048
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:15.760
<v Speaker 4>if you're telling me even one or two sides of

2049
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.439
<v Speaker 4>this structure of this of this mass.

2050
01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:20.760
<v Speaker 3>That's why it's so smooth to that side.

2051
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:22.680
<v Speaker 4>A bunch of ice formed on this side and it

2052
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:25.279
<v Speaker 4>kind of caved under the weight and slid off, and

2053
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:27.159
<v Speaker 4>you could dig down below and find the rubble of that.

2054
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>There's other examples like that on Earth, I could understand

2055
01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.680
<v Speaker 4>that off of one side, arguably two, bro, that's a

2056
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:35.800
<v Speaker 4>bit extreme to make that kind of a claim for

2057
01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:37.439
<v Speaker 4>this particular mountain peak.

2058
01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:39.920
<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect four sided pyramid.

2059
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Here right right. And if you look into some of

2060
01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:46.399
<v Speaker 2>the pyramids, especially the ones in Egypt, right, like the

2061
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Giza peer is it Giza? Why am I having a

2062
01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:52.359
<v Speaker 2>brain fart on that? The the Giza pyramids, if you

2063
01:43:52.399 --> 01:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>look into them, they are perfectly like perfectly geometrically like

2064
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:01.279
<v Speaker 2>perfect right, And if this was just random formation of

2065
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a mountain, how is it perfectly two kilometers all the

2066
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:05.680
<v Speaker 2>way around?

2067
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:06.039
<v Speaker 1>You know?

2068
01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that nature is always imperfect. There

2069
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>are some weird anomalies where nature sometimes just be making

2070
01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>too much sense mathematically. But it's specifically on Antarctica. Why

2071
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you're not allowed to go there? Maybe there's pyramids there,

2072
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know, I'm you talk about how people were

2073
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:26.720
<v Speaker 2>able to go to Antarctica.

2074
01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:28.439
<v Speaker 3>I doubt they're able to go to this part.

2075
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:32.319
<v Speaker 4>No, I seriously doubt that, dude. I mean, but you

2076
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:36.399
<v Speaker 4>know what, there are some there are some that shit

2077
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.600
<v Speaker 4>on this right, the experts, And this is one of

2078
01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:42.039
<v Speaker 4>the ones where you would say expert quote unquote, and

2079
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:44.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you on this particular guy.

2080
01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard of many minute Man, Many minute Man?

2081
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:47.600
<v Speaker 5>No.

2082
01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:50.359
<v Speaker 4>I like a lot of his content, but at the

2083
01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:52.119
<v Speaker 4>same time he could be a bit of a dick

2084
01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:56.119
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to things of the conspiratorial nature. This

2085
01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.720
<v Speaker 4>is him debunking the pyramids in Antarctica, and I'm not

2086
01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:02.000
<v Speaker 4>saying I agree with him, and you'll see what I

2087
01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:04.159
<v Speaker 4>mean here by the end of this little clip right

2088
01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>here on YouTube.

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01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Check it out. You know you're actually right.

2090
01:45:09.479 --> 01:45:11.960
<v Speaker 8>No mountain does have four sides of the equal angles, including

2091
01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:14.319
<v Speaker 8>fucking this one. Look at it. I've been tagged in

2092
01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:17.680
<v Speaker 8>so many conspiracy videos talking about this pyramid in Antarctica,

2093
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.079
<v Speaker 8>so I'm gonna use this highly simple meme with the

2094
01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:22.560
<v Speaker 8>Sigma Male stock footage behind it to break down why

2095
01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:25.520
<v Speaker 8>this conspiracy is fucking stupid. Firstly, it's worth noting that

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01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:27.760
<v Speaker 8>this peak doesn't even have a name, but it is

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01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:30.680
<v Speaker 8>part of the Ellsworth Mountains in Antarctica. Now, as far

2098
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.399
<v Speaker 8>as mountains, it's fairly small, standing at about four thousand feet,

2099
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:37.279
<v Speaker 8>which you know is almost thirty five hundred feet taller

2100
01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:39.920
<v Speaker 8>than the Pyramid of Cufu, which he knows a little

2101
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:42.399
<v Speaker 8>bit big for a pyramid. But my low, if it's

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01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.479
<v Speaker 8>not a pyramid, then why does it look like a pyramid?

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01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Hawkham's razor, Baby.

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01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:49.000
<v Speaker 8>The simplest answer is often the most likely. This shape

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01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:52.119
<v Speaker 8>is actually fairly common for geologic structures which were subjected

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01:45:52.159 --> 01:45:54.600
<v Speaker 8>to cold weather erosion. Here's a picture of the Alps

2107
01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:57.840
<v Speaker 8>where you can see a suspiciously straight ridge line. This

2108
01:45:57.960 --> 01:46:01.680
<v Speaker 8>shape is caused by repeated yearly freeze and thaw action ends,

2109
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:03.399
<v Speaker 8>not by aliens.

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01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's your sucking dumb That is the dumbest ample

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01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen.

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01:46:09.399 --> 01:46:10.359
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. Bro.

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01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:12.079
<v Speaker 4>If you were to say that that was the case

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01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:15.920
<v Speaker 4>on that particular mountain, okay, and it was on one edge,

2115
01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:18.520
<v Speaker 4>I could even see two faces of that pyramid shape

2116
01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:21.359
<v Speaker 4>being formed from natural means. Okay, this side slid off

2117
01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:26.560
<v Speaker 4>in a shearing method, this side maybe, Okay, all four sides,

2118
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.960
<v Speaker 4>and they're all just so perfectly two kilometers across. It's

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01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.439
<v Speaker 4>come on, now, dude, that's kind of crazy.

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01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're talking about literally the wind is hitting these

2121
01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>sides perfectly. You know, whether it's by wind or by snow,

2122
01:46:41.359 --> 01:46:44.640
<v Speaker 2>or by glacier or you know just whatever the frozen

2123
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:48.680
<v Speaker 2>conditions are the frozen tundra of Antarctica in general. To

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01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.840
<v Speaker 2>say that this would perfectly happen with all of the elements,

2125
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>that is an anomaly. If it is just naturally forming,

2126
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.399
<v Speaker 2>it is one of the wildest anomalies to anomaly.

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01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:02.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:05.640
<v Speaker 4>There are examples in other mountain ranges where you can

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01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:08.319
<v Speaker 4>see some like smooth sheer faces off of a mountain

2130
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:09.479
<v Speaker 4>that do happen naturally.

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01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:11.039
<v Speaker 3>That's wild Frantarctica.

2132
01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:13.800
<v Speaker 4>And again, Milo, I like a lot of his content

2133
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.359
<v Speaker 4>because he talks a lot of history, but he also

2134
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:18.319
<v Speaker 4>can be a bit of a dick when it comes

2135
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:20.880
<v Speaker 4>to a conspiratorial conversation.

2136
01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:24.039
<v Speaker 3>He has pretty much waged all out war against.

2137
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:29.600
<v Speaker 4>TikTok's favorite conspiracy guy, Philip Zeba, who for the record,

2138
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:31.880
<v Speaker 4>he's I don't agree with a lot of what he says,

2139
01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:34.039
<v Speaker 4>but he's doing it for the sense of making content.

2140
01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

2141
01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:37.119
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to believe in every single thing you

2142
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:41.279
<v Speaker 4>talk about it. It's for the principle of entertainment. But yeah,

2143
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:43.960
<v Speaker 4>it's been a back and forth between those two. It's

2144
01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:44.880
<v Speaker 4>really funny to watch.

2145
01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I mean just imagine being the guy that debunks everything.

2146
01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:52.640
<v Speaker 4>He's got t shirts made a Google debunker because like

2147
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:56.159
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the conspiratorial conversation, in his opinion, could

2148
01:47:56.199 --> 01:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>be quickly debunked from a Google search.

2149
01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:03.159
<v Speaker 2>But like, seriously, just imagine waking up and looking at

2150
01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a theory or a conspiracy or anything that people might

2151
01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>get excited about or imagine or believe in, and you're like,

2152
01:48:11.359 --> 01:48:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna wake up today and fucking crush their souls.

2153
01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>That's my job. I'm gonna do that every single day.

2154
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I fucking hate people like that.

2155
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's not his main shtick by any means. He

2156
01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.119
<v Speaker 4>is a what he considers a science communicator. He talks

2157
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot about He actually has done archaeology before, he's

2158
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:31.000
<v Speaker 4>been on dig sites. He has a degree in these

2159
01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.600
<v Speaker 4>types of things, so he's like, yes, classically trained, but

2160
01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:36.520
<v Speaker 4>also he pulls back a lot of the myths as

2161
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:38.640
<v Speaker 4>far as like like you would say, history being all

2162
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:40.800
<v Speaker 4>agreed upon and there's like truth to a lot of

2163
01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:42.920
<v Speaker 4>these things that hasn't been known before.

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01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Now. He communicates well when it comes to those kinds

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01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:47.600
<v Speaker 3>of conversations, and that's the content that I.

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01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Enjoy, Like the hope Well site. He did a very

2167
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.560
<v Speaker 4>in depth little well I say little. It's like a

2168
01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:55.560
<v Speaker 4>forty five minute video on the Hope Well Indian Mounds,

2169
01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:57.680
<v Speaker 4>and I thought it was beautifully done. And he talks

2170
01:48:57.680 --> 01:48:59.960
<v Speaker 4>about the sacred geometry they were using, and he's not shit.

2171
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>It was done very well.

2172
01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:04.359
<v Speaker 4>But then also there's that side of it where he'll

2173
01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:07.319
<v Speaker 4>go out of his way to shit on conspiracy people.

2174
01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:10.439
<v Speaker 3>So it's you know, that's not his whole stick, but

2175
01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:11.319
<v Speaker 3>at least half of his.

2176
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Personality is a little bit of a Yankee soy boy

2177
01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:16.800
<v Speaker 4>cuck content creator.

2178
01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 3>So there's levels to it.

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01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>There's level I mean, look, dude, I for a long

2180
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:24.720
<v Speaker 2>period of my life, I used to work in pizza shops.

2181
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I was in the back, I was in the front.

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01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I was slapping dough, I was serving tables, I was

2183
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>serving drinks. But to say that I can slap just

2184
01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:35.640
<v Speaker 2>because I have experience in slapping out some dough, that

2185
01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:39.119
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I'm fucking Papa John, Like, No,

2186
01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that would be incorrect, Like I'm I don't have that

2187
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.199
<v Speaker 2>level of experience. So just to say that I played

2188
01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:46.239
<v Speaker 2>in the field that the experts played in does not

2189
01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:47.479
<v Speaker 2>make you a fucking expert.

2190
01:49:48.319 --> 01:49:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I guess I could see your point.

2191
01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 4>But it would also mean that whenever some new pizza

2192
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:55.920
<v Speaker 4>shop opens up and you go and try it out

2193
01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:58.359
<v Speaker 4>in the pizza's ass and the dough is like weirdly

2194
01:49:58.439 --> 01:50:00.920
<v Speaker 4>formed and all these things, you could probably point out

2195
01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:02.359
<v Speaker 4>a couple of things that they did wrong.

2196
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, I was sure.

2197
01:50:04.119 --> 01:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean there, maybe you want to add a little

2198
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:07.800
<v Speaker 2>bit more sugar, a little bit more flour, a little

2199
01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 2>bit more yeast. Maybe the dough needed a little bit

2200
01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:13.199
<v Speaker 2>more time to rise or whatever, a little bit more

2201
01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:16.359
<v Speaker 2>time to ferment. There's always things that you can pick

2202
01:50:16.399 --> 01:50:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and choose.

2203
01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:20.119
<v Speaker 4>But like, it doesn't make you a master of the craft,

2204
01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:22.840
<v Speaker 4>but it also gives you at least a semi decent

2205
01:50:22.960 --> 01:50:26.239
<v Speaker 4>vantage point to say, listen, this pizza's ass, you need.

2206
01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:28.000
<v Speaker 3>To do this, and if the chef gets mad at you, oh,

2207
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I am a pizza I studied in Italy. I know

2208
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing.

2209
01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.079
<v Speaker 4>B It's like, listen, I'm not saying I'm an expert.

2210
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:36.239
<v Speaker 4>I've slapped some dough before and I could tell you

2211
01:50:36.239 --> 01:50:39.520
<v Speaker 4>you're fucking up, so like yeah, but but but even still,

2212
01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:44.119
<v Speaker 4>it's not like I have the taste buds of perfection.

2213
01:50:44.439 --> 01:50:47.359
<v Speaker 4>I still have my own, you know what I prefer, Like,

2214
01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I'll take a New York's Lives over a Chicago Deep

2215
01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:51.399
<v Speaker 4>Dish all day, every single day.

2216
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:54.720
<v Speaker 2>The deep don't really care about it. So if I

2217
01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>was to give my opinion on a Chicago Deep Dish,

2218
01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be the right person for that job.

2219
01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Fair point, right, You're you're the guy that could give

2220
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:05.960
<v Speaker 4>your two cents when it comes to the hand tossed conversation, right,

2221
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.199
<v Speaker 4>But the deep dish conversation is not your that's not

2222
01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:08.760
<v Speaker 4>your jam.

2223
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:10.520
<v Speaker 3>You know too much bread.

2224
01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:14.039
<v Speaker 4>And that's why in the realm of education and the

2225
01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:16.720
<v Speaker 4>academics and all this, you have guys that like, no,

2226
01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:19.039
<v Speaker 4>my my thing is more like Hellenistic history.

2227
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:21.399
<v Speaker 3>Like I know a little bit about Roman, but.

2228
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:23.319
<v Speaker 4>Like Hellenistic is my jam, or like no, no, no,

2229
01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:26.560
<v Speaker 4>do Mesopotamian is my shit? Yeah, Like I can tell

2230
01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:29.079
<v Speaker 4>you some things about the British Empire, but like ancient

2231
01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Mesopotamia is my shit. And that you have these people

2232
01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:34.840
<v Speaker 4>that are special specialized in their fields.

2233
01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:36.560
<v Speaker 3>So there's there's levels to it.

2234
01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:39.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing I don't I don't really particularly

2235
01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:41.399
<v Speaker 4>care for how he shits on people like that video,

2236
01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:43.560
<v Speaker 4>for instance, you need to be a dick about it.

2237
01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:45.359
<v Speaker 3>You went out of your way to be a dick.

2238
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.199
<v Speaker 4>Because it's funny and because being a dick for the content,

2239
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I understand. But from what I could tell, his personality

2240
01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:52.159
<v Speaker 4>is also like that a bit.

2241
01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:55.399
<v Speaker 3>It's so, you know, there are certain things.

2242
01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:57.199
<v Speaker 4>That he puts out that I get down with, certain

2243
01:51:57.239 --> 01:51:59.000
<v Speaker 4>things that I pretty much outright hate.

2244
01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he'd went on a whole ti rape.

2245
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:05.800
<v Speaker 4>He found a history of the Earth from a Christian perspective.

2246
01:52:05.880 --> 01:52:09.720
<v Speaker 4>It was literally from a fundamentalist Christian understanding that made

2247
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.119
<v Speaker 4>a textbook about how the Earth was formed, how science

2248
01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:15.439
<v Speaker 4>is wrong with these things. He went out of his

2249
01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:19.800
<v Speaker 4>way to shit on it. Now, granted he didn't shit

2250
01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:23.760
<v Speaker 4>on Christianity. He shipped on the writers of this book, right,

2251
01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:26.039
<v Speaker 4>and so like I give credit that he at least

2252
01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:31.079
<v Speaker 4>gave those distinctions, but he like took personal offense to

2253
01:52:31.239 --> 01:52:33.039
<v Speaker 4>some of the things that were made rather than just

2254
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:35.199
<v Speaker 4>like taking this opportunity to be a learning moment. And

2255
01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:37.880
<v Speaker 4>they said it was this way, here's what we know

2256
01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:40.520
<v Speaker 4>about There's different tones you could take.

2257
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's all you.

2258
01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Ever seen that you've seen, Like all the rick and

2259
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Morty episodes. Right, yeah, well, like whenever Rick and Morty

2260
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>they like, I think they went down to Hell and

2261
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:53.399
<v Speaker 2>they were talking to all the demons and shit like that,

2262
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, oh, it causes me so much discomfort,

2263
01:52:56.520 --> 01:52:59.399
<v Speaker 2>which brings me pleasure, you know, like that kind of thing.

2264
01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Like he looks like the kind of guy that wakes

2265
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:03.800
<v Speaker 2>up on the wrong side of the bed and loves it.

2266
01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:05.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know I'm saying.

2267
01:53:05.359 --> 01:53:07.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like, it's like Wes Huff whenever he went up

2268
01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:09.239
<v Speaker 4>against Billy Carson just throwing it out.

2269
01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:11.439
<v Speaker 3>He could have been a dick. He could have been like, well,

2270
01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:15.239
<v Speaker 3>you're fucking wrong, because Papa. He was very kind in

2271
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.880
<v Speaker 3>his demeanor. He didn't outright shit on Billy.

2272
01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:22.239
<v Speaker 4>He respectfully disagreed and could show the receipts on his disagree.

2273
01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Somewhat condescending, he was somewhat condescending. I'm not gonna say

2274
01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't.

2275
01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say condescending.

2276
01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:30.479
<v Speaker 4>You had your boy quoting from the Gospel of Barnabas

2277
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:33.520
<v Speaker 4>and like wes Huff's like, well, that's a known forgery.

2278
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Here is why this and this he wasn't like, well,

2279
01:53:37.439 --> 01:53:40.399
<v Speaker 4>the gos like He wasn't a dick, is my point.

2280
01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:43.359
<v Speaker 4>There was a respectful tone to it. There are people

2281
01:53:43.359 --> 01:53:46.000
<v Speaker 4>that are dicks for the sole purpose of being an asshole.

2282
01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:48.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to take that tone, is my point.

2283
01:53:49.159 --> 01:53:51.479
<v Speaker 2>The being a dick for the sole purpose of being

2284
01:53:51.479 --> 01:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>an asshole.

2285
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:54.479
<v Speaker 3>You heard what I said. That was a That was

2286
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:57.720
<v Speaker 3>a Jacob quote right there. I love it. That's that

2287
01:53:57.760 --> 01:54:01.079
<v Speaker 3>should be a T shirt, honestly. Yeah, don't be a

2288
01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:03.359
<v Speaker 3>dick for the sake of being an asshole, you prick.

2289
01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that just goes into polarity, you know, equals and

2290
01:54:06.840 --> 01:54:07.800
<v Speaker 2>opposites right there.

2291
01:54:07.840 --> 01:54:10.399
<v Speaker 4>Maybe the negative plus a negative, right, I mean.

2292
01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You can't have one without the other. For every dick,

2293
01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:14.439
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be an asshole. So I'm going to

2294
01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>be a dix and hopes that an asshole shows up.

2295
01:54:18.239 --> 01:54:24.079
<v Speaker 3>At that point. I like it. But stuff anyway, but stuff?

2296
01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh so, all right, this is where it gets into

2297
01:54:27.239 --> 01:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>flat earth and hidden hidden lands potentially so flat earthers research.

2298
01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Flat Earth researchers argue that the perie Rees map shows

2299
01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that that there's land beyond the Antarctic ice Wall, that's

2300
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:42.840
<v Speaker 2>what they suggest, and forbidden territories that we're not told about.

2301
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:45.119
<v Speaker 2>And even if you don't buy the model, it sparks

2302
01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:48.760
<v Speaker 2>a valid question are there hidden consonants or resources we're

2303
01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:49.880
<v Speaker 2>being kept away from?

2304
01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Now?

2305
01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Does that prove that we live on a flat earth? No,

2306
01:54:52.600 --> 01:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna get a globir that'll just say, well

2307
01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:57.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe it. Maybe the globe is just bigger, so you

2308
01:54:57.199 --> 01:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>can argue it fucking six ways to Sunday. The point

2309
01:54:59.880 --> 01:55:01.880
<v Speaker 2>is is that there are people that look at this

2310
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:06.520
<v Speaker 2>map and they're like, maybe there's more land. And if

2311
01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:09.479
<v Speaker 2>you're just to be honest, like if you were somebody

2312
01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:11.560
<v Speaker 2>that had access to a lot of these maps and

2313
01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to show a map of the world and

2314
01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:18.079
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to maybe I don't know, keep some of

2315
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that land to yourself without anybody getting to it, you

2316
01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:24.159
<v Speaker 2>could see how some elites would do that, right, Sure,

2317
01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that's not crazy to think I understand that. So yeah,

2318
01:55:29.319 --> 01:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>so it's just a I don't know, is there hidden land?

2319
01:55:32.760 --> 01:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Is there hidden land, or just are they hiding something

2320
01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>far more disturbing. Then you get into potentially what was

2321
01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it like Nephelum that were buried beneath the ice or

2322
01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>buried beneath the land or whatever the fuck?

2323
01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:48.079
<v Speaker 4>Who's to say, who's to say what kind of civilization

2324
01:55:48.359 --> 01:55:50.800
<v Speaker 4>was thriving on the continent of what we would now

2325
01:55:50.880 --> 01:55:54.800
<v Speaker 4>call Antarctica circuit ten thousand years ago? Were they just

2326
01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:59.399
<v Speaker 4>humans just like us? Were they advanced humans in some way,

2327
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:02.720
<v Speaker 4>shape or form? Were they giants? They were they alien

2328
01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:04.199
<v Speaker 4>by what we would call today?

2329
01:56:04.199 --> 01:56:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Who fucking knows.

2330
01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:08.079
<v Speaker 2>So, just to touch on a little bit more with Hapgood,

2331
01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Graham Hancock, and Charles Charles Albert Einstein's endorsement. So Charles

2332
01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Hapgood believed that the Perio Rees map was evidence of

2333
01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:23.199
<v Speaker 2>prehistoric seafaring civilizations, and Einstein even endorsed Hapgood's work, and

2334
01:56:23.399 --> 01:56:26.399
<v Speaker 2>which is you know, it's pretty amazing that he endorsed

2335
01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:30.439
<v Speaker 2>his work whenever he was alluding to Atlantis the entire time.

2336
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, say what you want. Maybe he was. Maybe

2337
01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Einstein just maybe he got a little tickle in his

2338
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:38.800
<v Speaker 2>pants for that kind of mythological shit, or maybe he

2339
01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:40.600
<v Speaker 2>actually believed that Hapgood was on something.

2340
01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:43.359
<v Speaker 4>It's very possible. And I mean we're talking about the

2341
01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:47.039
<v Speaker 4>we've talked about the Bronze agec peoples that are in

2342
01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:50.520
<v Speaker 4>a mystery and an anomaly in and of themselves. Who's

2343
01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:54.159
<v Speaker 4>to say that their point of origin wasn't Antarctica. I

2344
01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:56.920
<v Speaker 4>don't know that for a fact. No one knows anything

2345
01:56:56.920 --> 01:56:59.800
<v Speaker 4>about them. We've had multiple people come on and say

2346
01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:02.880
<v Speaker 4>that they were the tribe of Dan, they were uh,

2347
01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:06.079
<v Speaker 4>these lost tribes. They were Atlanteans, they were this, they

2348
01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:07.720
<v Speaker 4>were How do we know they weren't Anarkan?

2349
01:57:09.279 --> 01:57:12.119
<v Speaker 3>We don't Anarchian? What the fuck? You know what I'm saying.

2350
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:13.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't know that for a fact.

2351
01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:17.439
<v Speaker 4>We do know that they had advanced seafaring technology and

2352
01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:20.560
<v Speaker 4>capabilities that no one else in the Bronze Age could

2353
01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:24.159
<v Speaker 4>come close to touching, right, Who fucking knows they There's

2354
01:57:24.159 --> 01:57:26.560
<v Speaker 4>been an argument to say that this was a quote

2355
01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:30.960
<v Speaker 4>unquote Bronze Age Viking, a civilization that just came down

2356
01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.720
<v Speaker 4>from the Nordic countries and came through unrated people.

2357
01:57:34.159 --> 01:57:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Do we know that for a fact, No, No, we

2358
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:36.600
<v Speaker 3>do not.

2359
01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:39.479
<v Speaker 4>We have there's very scant evidence of even what skin

2360
01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:40.319
<v Speaker 4>color they were.

2361
01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:42.359
<v Speaker 3>We don't know shit, right.

2362
01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:45.600
<v Speaker 2>And so even in that in that half good book

2363
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:52.479
<v Speaker 2>alluding to Antarctica and the shifts, crusting and possibly Atlantis,

2364
01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Einstein was actually entertaining the idea of crustal shifts and

2365
01:57:56.520 --> 01:58:00.199
<v Speaker 2>law civilizations, so that points to it possibly, you know,

2366
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:02.760
<v Speaker 2>being more than just pseudoscience.

2367
01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:05.560
<v Speaker 4>At that point, I agree, and I mean, hell, even

2368
01:58:05.600 --> 01:58:08.399
<v Speaker 4>if it was pseudoscience, they're talking about one of the

2369
01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.960
<v Speaker 4>greatest scientific minds of the last fucking four centuries that

2370
01:58:13.119 --> 01:58:14.840
<v Speaker 4>was dabbling in the pseudoscience.

2371
01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's okay to have an imagination and be educated.

2372
01:58:17.920 --> 01:58:18.159
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

2373
01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if it was suppressed history, you know, why

2374
01:58:22.159 --> 01:58:24.560
<v Speaker 2>would they hide it? So why isn't it taught in schools?

2375
01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Why do mainstream historians dismiss it? Because if the Perires

2376
01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:31.920
<v Speaker 2>map is legitimate, which the Air Force captain legitimized it,

2377
01:58:32.079 --> 01:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>essentially it destroys the official exploration timeline. It proves pre

2378
01:58:37.079 --> 01:58:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Ice age advanced civilizations actually existed, and it exposes that

2379
01:58:41.439 --> 01:58:44.640
<v Speaker 2>knowledge has been hoarded for centuries. So who benefits from

2380
01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>keeping humanity in the dark about our real history? And

2381
01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:50.680
<v Speaker 2>what are they protecting by hiding it?

2382
01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That's the question.

2383
01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:54.399
<v Speaker 2>You really got to ask yourself why would they be

2384
01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:55.039
<v Speaker 2>hiding it?

2385
01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:55.720
<v Speaker 3>You know?

2386
01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And then of course you kind of just have to

2387
01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:00.359
<v Speaker 2>let your imagination run rambant, you know.

2388
01:59:00.479 --> 01:59:01.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2389
01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, then you got to add in UFOs and Antarctica.

2390
01:59:07.159 --> 01:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So modern UFO disclosures keep trying or keep tying back

2391
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.680
<v Speaker 2>to Antarctica Whistleblower's hint at alien ruins beneath the ice?

2392
01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Could this be why Antarctica is restricted? Is it a

2393
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:21.239
<v Speaker 2>contact zone between humans and non human intelligences, the same

2394
01:59:21.359 --> 01:59:24.560
<v Speaker 2>beings who may have given us the source maps that

2395
01:59:24.680 --> 01:59:28.000
<v Speaker 2>per recopied. I don't necessarily buy that. I don't know,

2396
01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:31.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's fun to speculate. So is this why we're

2397
01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:34.359
<v Speaker 2>seeing the slow UFO drip feed? Which I don't know

2398
01:59:34.359 --> 01:59:37.840
<v Speaker 2>if you've been keeping up, bro, there's been shitloads of

2399
01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:45.800
<v Speaker 2>allegedly UFO videos captured and I really don't know what

2400
01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:47.399
<v Speaker 2>to do about it because we do live in a

2401
01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:50.640
<v Speaker 2>day and age of AI, and I just have a

2402
01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>hard time trusting anything. But to be honest, if you

2403
01:59:53.720 --> 02:00:00.479
<v Speaker 2>were going to soft launch disclosure, you so do it

2404
02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in a time where people would be questioning the validity

2405
02:00:03.079 --> 02:00:06.159
<v Speaker 2>of it because of AI and because of editing softwares

2406
02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and shit like that.

2407
02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:10.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, even when it comes to the flying craft

2408
02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:13.359
<v Speaker 4>that pilots are getting out of the military and saying, yo,

2409
02:00:13.439 --> 02:00:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I saw the same blip on my radar.

2410
02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:18.319
<v Speaker 3>It was doing maneuvers that we can't create.

2411
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.359
<v Speaker 4>Like that's impossible that that was human technology and all

2412
02:00:20.439 --> 02:00:24.960
<v Speaker 4>these things I fully believe in the alien conversation. Now

2413
02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:26.840
<v Speaker 4>where they come from, That's where we get into the

2414
02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:29.159
<v Speaker 4>level of speculation. Who fucking knows. I have my own

2415
02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:30.680
<v Speaker 4>beliefs on it. You have your own beliefs on A

2416
02:00:30.680 --> 02:00:33.199
<v Speaker 4>good cult member listening, you have your own beliefs on it. Now,

2417
02:00:33.199 --> 02:00:35.359
<v Speaker 4>we could argue that to the cows come home, But

2418
02:00:35.399 --> 02:00:39.159
<v Speaker 4>I honestly one hundred percent believe that we are going

2419
02:00:39.199 --> 02:00:41.119
<v Speaker 4>to and definitely in our lifetime.

2420
02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I would argue, maybe even before the end of this year, maybe.

2421
02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Come into complete, undisclosed contact with another race of being

2422
02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:52.680
<v Speaker 4>that is not from our plan of existence.

2423
02:00:52.720 --> 02:00:53.399
<v Speaker 3>I'll leave it at that.

2424
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:55.720
<v Speaker 4>It's a very open ended broad brush I'm painting with,

2425
02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:57.159
<v Speaker 4>but that's the best I could do.

2426
02:00:57.399 --> 02:01:04.720
<v Speaker 2>A consciousness unknown essentially, So so Pirie Reefs wasn't just

2427
02:01:04.840 --> 02:01:07.640
<v Speaker 2>making a map. He was preserving lost knowledge.

2428
02:01:07.760 --> 02:01:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Essentially.

2429
02:01:08.560 --> 02:01:12.920
<v Speaker 2>He knew that it came from ancient sources, sources powerful

2430
02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:16.560
<v Speaker 2>enough to rewrite the story of humanity essentially. So if

2431
02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:19.159
<v Speaker 2>this fragment can do that, what could the rest of

2432
02:01:19.199 --> 02:01:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the map show? And if it still exists, who's keeping

2433
02:01:23.159 --> 02:01:26.319
<v Speaker 2>it hidden and for what reasons? Which I find to

2434
02:01:26.359 --> 02:01:30.760
<v Speaker 2>be pretty curious to say at least, so if the

2435
02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:35.399
<v Speaker 2>pier Reefs map is more than a curiosity, the purier

2436
02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:38.319
<v Speaker 2>resapp is more than a curiosity. It's a crack in

2437
02:01:38.359 --> 02:01:40.840
<v Speaker 2>the facade of our official history. It tells us that

2438
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:45.399
<v Speaker 2>advanced civilizations human or otherwise, map this planet long before

2439
02:01:46.319 --> 02:01:50.359
<v Speaker 2>modern day humans. It tells us that Antarctica is hiding

2440
02:01:50.399 --> 02:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>more than ice. It tells us that the people uh.

2441
02:01:53.800 --> 02:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It tells us that the people who know the truth

2442
02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:58.720
<v Speaker 2>aren't interested in sharing it, and that the question isn't

2443
02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:01.159
<v Speaker 2>whether the peier Reefs map is real, It's that the

2444
02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:05.520
<v Speaker 2>question is what else have they hidden? So that's that's

2445
02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:08.560
<v Speaker 2>why I love this kind of stuff, because it points to,

2446
02:02:09.439 --> 02:02:18.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, experts being wrong and potentially hoarding of information,

2447
02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:21.079
<v Speaker 2>and that's what this show is really all about. So

2448
02:02:21.119 --> 02:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>that's really why I wanted to get into Perry Reese

2449
02:02:23.239 --> 02:02:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in general. Had I had heard of it in passing before,

2450
02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>but I was like, what is that really all about?

2451
02:02:29.359 --> 02:02:30.279
<v Speaker 3>It's just fascinating.

2452
02:02:30.319 --> 02:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>This guy in fifteen thirteen fifteen fifteen was able to

2453
02:02:34.760 --> 02:02:37.399
<v Speaker 2>fifteen thirteen because his dad died in fifteen eleven. His

2454
02:02:37.479 --> 02:02:41.199
<v Speaker 2>dad was the pirate and then turned was it naval

2455
02:02:41.199 --> 02:02:45.520
<v Speaker 2>commander or something like that, and so maybe he got

2456
02:02:45.560 --> 02:02:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that information from his dad. And

2457
02:02:47.680 --> 02:02:50.600
<v Speaker 2>what I was thinking about is like, if his dad

2458
02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:53.760
<v Speaker 2>was a pirate before, who's to say that he wasn't

2459
02:02:53.840 --> 02:02:58.159
<v Speaker 2>pirting and looting and stealing you know, potential loss maps

2460
02:02:58.199 --> 02:03:00.439
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I don't know, but I do

2461
02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:03.680
<v Speaker 2>find it fascinating that this guy was the creator of

2462
02:03:03.720 --> 02:03:06.199
<v Speaker 2>this map and it was lost for so long until

2463
02:03:06.199 --> 02:03:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it was eventually discovered a few hundred years later, and

2464
02:03:09.000 --> 02:03:13.359
<v Speaker 2>it proves everything completely wrong. I mean, we already know

2465
02:03:13.439 --> 02:03:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that Columbus wasn't the first to discover America. You know,

2466
02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that was that was ridiculous. There were already people on it.

2467
02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:23.439
<v Speaker 2>It was already discovered, people were inhabiting it, right, But

2468
02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, it just makes you wonder what do we

2469
02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:29.039
<v Speaker 2>know about our history? What do we know about you know,

2470
02:03:29.159 --> 02:03:34.159
<v Speaker 2>pre Ice age? And could there potentially been advanced civilizations

2471
02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:37.079
<v Speaker 2>on this land? And then you look into all the

2472
02:03:37.079 --> 02:03:40.720
<v Speaker 2>the Atlantis stories and everything, and it's like, man, I

2473
02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:44.880
<v Speaker 2>want to believe that, and maybe Antarctica is proof. Maybe

2474
02:03:44.920 --> 02:03:48.479
<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll learn one day. I have to speculate that

2475
02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:51.319
<v Speaker 2>we we're not going to learn it, but those of

2476
02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:53.119
<v Speaker 2>higher power probably would.

2477
02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely and it's crazy that you would say that this

2478
02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:59.560
<v Speaker 4>you's dad was a pirate. So the Ottoman Empire, right,

2479
02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:03.600
<v Speaker 4>the Barbary Pirates as they are known, they were some

2480
02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:06.199
<v Speaker 4>of the most feared pirates of their day and age,

2481
02:04:06.279 --> 02:04:08.800
<v Speaker 4>which is actually in the Marine Corps hymn from the

2482
02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli. That is

2483
02:04:12.039 --> 02:04:16.840
<v Speaker 4>because Thomas Jefferson sent marines to go and fuck up

2484
02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:19.560
<v Speaker 4>the Barbary pirates that were the Ottoman pirates in question

2485
02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:22.760
<v Speaker 4>here in the seventeen hundreds of old, which is why

2486
02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:26.560
<v Speaker 4>the Marine Corps officers sword is a Mameluke sword. It's

2487
02:04:26.600 --> 02:04:29.279
<v Speaker 4>an Automan sword that they took once they took over

2488
02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:33.960
<v Speaker 4>this area in Tripoli. But yeah, if for anybody who's curious, here,

2489
02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:37.439
<v Speaker 4>they were a Muslim group. They were Islamic, and there

2490
02:04:37.520 --> 02:04:40.479
<v Speaker 4>was a ship that ran aground in their area and

2491
02:04:40.760 --> 02:04:46.680
<v Speaker 4>the pirates beheaded all of the surrendering US naval members

2492
02:04:47.239 --> 02:04:50.399
<v Speaker 4>and Thomas Jefferson could not understand why, so he asked

2493
02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:53.399
<v Speaker 4>to get all of the information on Islam, like we

2494
02:04:53.680 --> 02:04:56.760
<v Speaker 4>need to understand what kind of culture would just behead

2495
02:04:57.000 --> 02:05:00.479
<v Speaker 4>surrendering guys. That's not how civilized people do business. Then

2496
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:03.479
<v Speaker 4>when he read the Quran and found what the Islamic

2497
02:05:03.720 --> 02:05:07.279
<v Speaker 4>faith believes in, he said, oh, so the only language

2498
02:05:07.279 --> 02:05:10.119
<v Speaker 4>that these people understand is beheading in violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Got you, hey, newly formed a marine corps.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna need you to go and draw some blood

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<v Speaker 4>because they killed some of us, and we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and set up precedence that that is bad for

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<v Speaker 4>your health.

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<v Speaker 3>So they did, they did, and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Brought back a sword and a story and we sing

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<v Speaker 4>songs about it to this day. So the Barbary pirates

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<v Speaker 4>aka the Ottoman pirates in question here very renowned in

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<v Speaker 4>the day and age that we're talking about here. They

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<v Speaker 4>were big from like the sixteenth century to I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say, even the nineteenth centuries, when the eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 4>is when they finally like went fully by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, dude, interesting shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, I that is crazy. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>where the Barbarian term comes from?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that actually comes from Rome.

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<v Speaker 4>So the same way that the Vandals that you've heard

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<v Speaker 4>that term before you vandalized something. The Vandals were actually

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<v Speaker 4>a tribe that was to the north of the Roman

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<v Speaker 4>Empire when they were making their way into Germanica and

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<v Speaker 4>Gaul and all these things. The Vandals, the Visigoths where

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<v Speaker 4>we get Gothic from.

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<v Speaker 3>These were all tribes to the north of Rome.

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<v Speaker 4>So Barbarian, the Barbarian hordes quote unquote if you will

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<v Speaker 4>that that's an old term that comes way way far back.

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<v Speaker 3>Barbary comes from.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh believe it's the Barbary coast, which is ralph the

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<v Speaker 4>coast of the Horn of Africa. So, but the Ottoman

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<v Speaker 4>Empire stretched from Turkey around the Horn of Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>All it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big empire, very large damn. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun learning about history. It just have to put

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<v Speaker 2>a little faith in it, you know, Dad said, I

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<v Speaker 2>good cult members. If you enjoyed this, maybe you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do your own deep dive. Maybe there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more to periereas that maybe I didn't cover. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why we do it. It's just to plant the seed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not to give you the crops. It's just to

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<v Speaker 2>show you that there's good soil here and you take

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<v Speaker 2>your seed and you just semonated. Okay, so you do

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<v Speaker 2>what you do what you want with this kind of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it sparked a little curiosity. Hopefully it inspired your

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<v Speaker 2>imagination a little bit to be able to wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>were they doing pre ice age? You know, what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on back then? And is there something beyond Antarctica?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and this is something that you know, we

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02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:26.000
<v Speaker 2>can only speculate, but it tickles the conspiratorial fancy.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely tickled mind.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you enjoyed this kind of stuff and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to support us, and we have

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02:07:33.199 --> 02:07:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a couple of different ways that you can, Patreon being

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<v Speaker 2>the best way, but we have a couple other ones there, Jacob,

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 4>We do, And like you said, dude, the way that

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<v Speaker 4>you were not here to, like, you know, grow the

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02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:45.359
<v Speaker 4>tree in your mind of the imagination. We're here to

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<v Speaker 4>plant the seeds right the same way that right now.

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<v Speaker 4>If you would like to plant the seeds for your

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02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:53.319
<v Speaker 4>financial future, okay, and one day you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 4>reap the fruit from that planting, the best way to

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<v Speaker 4>do that would be to buy some silver and gold bullion.

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<v Speaker 4>You plant that finance seed right now, and then fifty

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<v Speaker 4>years down the road you might be able to cash

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<v Speaker 4>in on that investment. The best place to get started

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<v Speaker 4>with that would be to go to the link in

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<v Speaker 4>the description below and go to cocsilver dot com. When

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<v Speaker 4>you fill out your information, our homeboy, Wanne Clark is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be the one to reach out to you and

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<v Speaker 4>get you started on your journey. You want to buy

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, you want to buy a lot of bit.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to buy some silver, some gold, some platinum,

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<v Speaker 4>some whatever the case. Would you like to get your

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<v Speaker 4>start in the business aspect of becoming a distributor of

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<v Speaker 4>silver and gold yourself. Whatever you're interested in, Wayne Clark

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<v Speaker 4>is gonna be the guy to hook you up with

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<v Speaker 4>that information. Again, the link is in the description below. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>do your research on this. As we're talking about the ancients.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about the days of old prehistory. Prehistory, they

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02:08:39.279 --> 02:08:42.439
<v Speaker 4>knew silver and gold had value. Middle Ages they knew

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<v Speaker 4>silver and gold had value. To this day, silver and

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<v Speaker 4>gold has value. It's only gonna go up. The value

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<v Speaker 4>of the dollar is gonna ebb and flow up down left,

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02:08:48.920 --> 02:08:51.399
<v Speaker 4>fright center. Silver and gold are gonna maintain a value.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just the math here. While it's still affordable for

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<v Speaker 4>you to get your hands on some. Now is the

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<v Speaker 4>time cecsilver dot com once again is the best place

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<v Speaker 4>to get started. Another way that you could, like Jonathan said,

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<v Speaker 4>support the show and support our mission to spread information,

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<v Speaker 4>to inspire the imagination of all of our good listeners,

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<v Speaker 4>and help us grow this show, this cult to be

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<v Speaker 4>a ever growing, ever popular show that breaks through glass ceilings.

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<v Speaker 4>We need your help. We need to boost through algorithmic matrixes.

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<v Speaker 4>The only way that that's gonna happen is if they

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<v Speaker 4>can see activity, not just that we're posting things. If

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<v Speaker 4>you go right now and leave a review, leave a comment,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the case is, this activity is what boosts the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you could do at this time is please

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<v Speaker 3>hit the five stars, hit the shares.

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<v Speaker 4>Of like subscribes to follows, and leave a post and

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<v Speaker 4>leave everyone shares.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit their friends, family shares, sai or here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The more activity the algorithms see across all of our

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<v Speaker 4>listening platforms, the.

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<v Speaker 3>More we get promoted to more potential listeners. Who could

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<v Speaker 3>that become potential cult members? Actress, do you find ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen?

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you gonna go check out met the Mysteries

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<v Speaker 4>Jonathan's on the show and get in the same level

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<v Speaker 4>of respect over there with the five star.

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<v Speaker 3>Reviews and the positivity and the comments. Come check out

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<v Speaker 3>the CAE tonight and.

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<v Speaker 4>Come join each of us for our individual Patreon lives

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<v Speaker 3>And we think if everybody's already gone and.

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<v Speaker 2>Done so, And with that being said, this was another

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful episode of the Cult of Conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>And my name is Jonathan, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake and there's one very important, shume be vittle piece

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<v Speaker 2>as humidly possible.

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