Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Stories version of The Todd Herman Show.
Meet the grandson of one of America's first culture warriors,
Tim Wildman. Caitlin Clark's advice to kids in sixty minutes lied,
but the reserport is a hero. But then they went
and did this thing where they erased Kamala's words and
then made it seem like she made sense. We'll talk
about this all with the help of our YouTube channel
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with God Almighty.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has and these are
the times to which God has decided we shall live.
And I'm sitting next to Walker Wildman, and we're in Tupelo, Mississippi.
He is part of the storied Wildman family, and the
Wildman family has been given a responsibility by God to
steward network of one hundred and eighty radio stations and
films and documentaries and books. And Walker, it's great to
be sitting in I was gonna say, your studios do
you don't view it that way to the donor studios.
Speaker 3: Right, that's right.
Speaker 4: We're a nonprofit, so we wouldn't be here without donors
and supporters around the country. But yeah, this is the
Lord's work, this is his ministry to Steward, my grandfather
started it, and I'm just glad to be a part
of it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to compliment you on your office being small,
your dad's office being small. I've seen it on video.
I've been in a lot of offices, media offices in
New York Times, Associated Press, NPR, multiple times, NBC, black
you know, Black Rock. The lobby is gorgeous. It honors
Jesus Christ. I love that. But I love the fact
that here are well done, beautifully done. But none of
this is the fancier Herman Miller couches and all that.
So thanks for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: We went through the building planning process when we built
this Don Wildman Center for Cultural Transformation, and the architects
were kind of going through the formulas and they were
talking about, yeah, the executives, they usually get bigger offices,
which makes sense. But then we started looking at the
square footage and we were like, you know, we only
need like one hundred and fifty square foot a person,
even for executives. So we went with what's practical, and
it works. It's a nice quality building, but yeah, to
your point, it's not elaborate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad to see that as someone who
works for you and then ultimately works for God through
the donors. And you were the grandson of one of
the original cultural warriors before that was even a phrase,
and I want to talk about what that was like
to grow up that way. What's crap grap is a
cultural warrior and his name was Don Wildman. He's gone
home with the Lord, so we'll talk about that in
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Grandpa's job is culture warrior. He's on TV. And do
you remember the first thing in culture that he kind
of on which he sort of declared war in the
name of God.
Speaker 4: Well, that would have been network television back in the
you know, in the mid to late seventies, there weren't
one hundred channels, right, there were five or six, three
or four depending on which region of the country you
lived in. So yeah, he went to war against network television,
and there weren't a lot of options out there. So
if there was sex, violence and nudity on television, that
was pretty much it.
Speaker 3: You were stuck with it.
Speaker 4: So network television was his first battle, and he got
a lot of publicity. All the major papers covered it.
Speaker 1: And how did they cover them.
Speaker 4: It was very cynical and negative because he was this
Mississippi Methodist preacher who had a little bit of a
Mississippi slang to it, which we're still carrying strongly today
with our Southern accent. But but yeah, he was kind
of the joke of the country. And these network television
executives were on their high horse, you know. They were thinking,
you know, we're bringing in millions of dollars through these
advertisers and through these shows, and television is the new thing,
right every family watches television in the evening at the time,
and they thought to themselves, this Mississippi preacher is really
going to bring us down. And he did. He did
many of them. And he figured out that the advertisers
was where the vulnerability was because at the time, in
the late seventies, there was, of course the where you
had the sexual Revolution, and things were trending in the
wrong direction culturally to a degree depending on you know,
what you were looking at specifically. But companies still actually
had some sort of attention to decency, right. They cared
what the consumer thought, and they didn't want to be
viewed as being vulgar or explicit or pornographic with some
of their stuff and what sponsoring. So companies responded to
one hundred two hundred letters from customers that were upset
about their advertising dollars. So he figured out that if
you target advertisers, you can make a huge impact on
the types of shows that are being sponsored.
Speaker 1: And as the grandson, I mean, you grew up in Mississippi,
and it's different here than I grew up on the
West Coast, and I grew up in a conservative portion
of the West coast. Spokane is different than Seattle. I
remember people who did later picked up on what your
grandpa did being jokes and oh and these southern rednecks,
forgive the phrase. I'm seventy nine point seven percent red
neck myself, so I get to say it. How did
it feel as a young man that the network, TV
bosses and newspapers are trying to make Grandpa joke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know I didn't for whatever reason, for
better or worse. I was kind of insulated to the
whole culture war concept until I got into my teen
in high school years, because you know, it was just
Wildman was my grandfather, and it was just normal, right
for him to be engaged in the culture war, running
the ministry on the front page news.
Speaker 3: That was kind of normal.
Speaker 4: But as I grew up, I began to really grasp
what was going on in our country and how my
grandfather was really being targeted for his approach to the
issues of our day. And I'll tell you what, you
can't operate around here, and you can't really operate in
this cultural environment that we're in America without a bit
of a thick skin. And I learned quickly not to
really care what other people think about you, unless it's
your loved ones, your family, and your friends that are
using things through a biblical lens, that are analyzing things
through a biblical lens. Because what the Pagans think about
us really shouldn't bother us, right. A lot of Christians
are too concerned about what the world thinks, and they
want to be perceived well in the world. That's really
a backwards way of looking at it. I want to
know what does God's word say about how I'm living
and how I'm conducting myself, and that's really all that matters.
And so that's really a challenge for people who think
conservatively and think biblically. We shouldn't care what the enemies
of God think about us.
Speaker 1: And I'd love that you see pagans and I know
that you're not saying that lightly. There are pagan lands,
and if you've not been to a pagan land, I'll
give you an example that there is a where I
live across the border in Spokane, which is largely conservative.
There is a bar downtown and the bar is Hell.
I mean, it's not kind of Hell. It says out front,
welcome to Hell, and the drinks in there are named
after demons. It says upfront to blank with your liver.
And it is a place where they encourage excess, where
the more perversity you show going in, the further up
in line you get to enter. So that's paganism on display.
And I talked to you and people say, oh, it's joking. No,
they're just being ironic. It's just a fun place to go,
and I go, no, no, no, Do you think the
devil cares that you that you you think it's a joke, right?
What he cares about is you're celebrating this stuff from
your position in Tupelo, Mississippi, And obviously you're aware of
the culture given what you do. What does that sound
like to you in terms of kids driving by and
seeing that. Is that just some bizarre to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's it's unfortunate that that's even acceptable, right, Right,
there's not a large outcry that that type of darkness
is being promoted and really mocked. And yeah, I use
the word pagan, actually use it on my daily show
pretty often, and some people may think I'm using it
as a kind of an inflammatory term. But when you
look at human history, every human culture is going to
worship something, right, There's no this This whole talk about neutrality,
and we could get into neutrality and how companies could
remain neutral and focus on their primary business purposes, which
is what my grandfather talked about, but when it comes
to our affections, there is no neutrality. We are going
to draw ourselves to something someone, and so when cultures
abandon the god of the Bible and the Creator. They
end up worshiping something else. And that's how you get
pagan cultures, whether it's alcohol, pornography, sex, abortion, every culture
that really displaces God ends up worshiping something else. So
that term pagan is actually very accurate throughout human history
of cultures that abandon God.
Speaker 1: And you know, Satan is an expert at casting himself
as a creature of light, right, and he pretends to
be this light filled being. People end up worshiping their kids.
Now this sounds really strange, which you think about, you know,
child sports society. Well, yeah, we'd like to go to church,
but man, our kids, they're on a traveling team now.
And anything that is removing you from God or separating
you from God, you're spending more time, and that can
become worship. People worry about this with we with CrossFit,
like you spend so much time on fitness. Are you
sure that's not separating from God. Hey, there's a lot
of things that might separate me from God. It wouldn't
be that for me to be politics, you'd be concerned
about the world. What do you do personally to make
sure that your work? You're in ministry, but how do
you make sure that work doesn't become work a thing
you worship versus ministry for God? Because I hear a
lot of pastors say that's the difficult thing is all
of a sudden, you don't even enjoy praying anymore because it's,
oh my gosh, it's just another prayer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we have to ask ourselves two things.
Why do we do what we do? And where do
we get our satisfaction from? Those are the two primary
questions that we have to ask ourselves.
Speaker 3: And whether it's.
Speaker 4: Running a ministry, running a business, or even shepherding your home,
why do we do what we do? And what is
our motivation? And if it's not, if it's anything outside
of being a good steward for God's kingdom purposes, then
you often lose track, right. So, and we have to
find peace when we're not in our element so to speak. Right, So,
when we're not in what we love to do, what
we have passion for, whether it's business, nonprofit, parenting, et cetera.
We have to be able to have peace outside of
our quote unquote comfort zone. And so that's what I
tend to stay focused on, is doing everything that I'm
doing to be a good steward and whether it's CrossFit. Look,
there's a lot of things that we can do with
enjoyment that God gifted us with and it can all
be centered towards Him and his purposes without us losing
focus on the big picture. But you do have to
be very careful because every culture can tend to idolize something,
and idolizing children is a thing, and God here's a thing.
And it's true with every culture. Good things can turn
to bad things right without the proper perspective. So children
are a blessing from the Lord. Genesis says, be fruitful
and multiply. But if you're not careful and you don't
keep Christ first in a biblical worldview and your role
as a parent and a disciple and a razor of
children in focus, then before you know it, you're just
doing everything you can to.
Speaker 3: Make your kids happy.
Speaker 4: So the question is why do we do what we
do and what gives us fulfillment and purpose? And we
just have to keep the main thing the main thing.
Speaker 1: I love it. And there's a movie coming out, Cultural Warrior,
about your grandpa, and that's going to be seen around
the country, and you can go to sit Cultural Warriors movie. Yeah,
Culture Warrior movie. Get tickets for that. And I would
just say this as a guy who fell victim to
idolizing my little girls athletic promise, that was Satan hiding
as an angel of light. And I would just offer
you guys this thought as well. If you find yourself
hiding portions of the Bible from your kids, this is
a big one. Let's not talk about the messy social issues.
Let's make sure that our kids like they like God.
Let's make God hip. Maybe maybe you're worshiping the world.
Story number two with Walker Wildman. Walker's with me, He's
with the American Family Radio. And American Family Radio is
eight what one hundred and eighty radio stations. I should
know this since I'm gifted to have a program there.
It is books, it's films. There's a film coming out
about your grandpa Don Wildman called Culture Where is one
of the original culture Wars. I wanted to show you
a video that Caitlin Clark. She's in an interview and
she's speaking to children. I want you to see this
in a second. But first of have you watched this
response to Caitlin Clark and the WNBA and she got
eighty percent of fowls of egregious fowls. She broke some
nine hundred records. You've watched this phenomenon. What have you
made of this? The WNBA and her response there?
Speaker 3: So what is the WNBA without Kaitlyn Clark?
Speaker 1: Right, it's twenty percent of what it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's made the WMA NBA it is today. I mean,
who used to watch that? Now it's very popular. So yeah,
I've kind kept an eye on this.
Speaker 1: So I've watched her be assaulted effectively, yes, at that
court right, and hunted down and assaulted. Meanwhile, she's setting
all of these records. And I don't know if you
remember this. Do you remember when the WNBA started? Did
you track that when it started?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: So we got free tickets to the first WNBA game
in Seattle or one of the first. I don't know
what was the first, but I knew a woman at
Microsoft who was one of the owners of the team.
So wow, oh my gosh, thank you for this. You know,
my little girls an athlete. And so we got the
tickets and said to my little girl, he invite some
of the girls from skating. I go and I look
at the website to see where our seats are. That
night was about Planned PARENTOED. Everyone was to come in
wearing pink to support Planned PARENTHOED and my heart broke
and I went to my little girl and said, here's
what they're doing. She goes, Oh, we can't go to that.
I mean, would they why would they do that? Why
would they talk about killing babies there. I think there's
a genesis of the WNBA where it was almost born
as a grievance league, or let's say it this way,
as a coveting league. Does that seem overblown to you?
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: And when you look at the WNBA, it's really not
able to operate as a standalone entity. It's often subsidized
by the NBA. Right, So, I don't know what the
purpose of the WNBA was as far as their motive.
Was it this like equity thing where if we've got
a male thing, we have to have a female thing.
I don't know, but it's good. I think it's entertaining.
Caitlin Clark has made it popular. But yeah, I don't
know much about the history of the WNBA, but I
know in and of itself, the business model really doesn't function.
Speaker 3: They have to have the NBA as a subsidy.
Speaker 1: They do, and then Kaitlin Clark's come along and the
games that she's in are and you made this point
five six times as much viewed. Oh yeah, as a
game she's not in. So I wanted you to see
this video in a second of Kaitlin Clark sort of
giving advice to kids, and she got a cool message
from her third grade teacher. So we'll get to that.
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Clark a message to kids about achieving their dreams. So
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Speaker 5: Take a look, that's scary.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 7: Hi, Kaitlyn, it's Kathleen Dre, your old third grade teacher.
Just wanted to let you know how proud of you
we are all at s Saint Francis. It seems like
just yesterday you were in my class. We are all
cheering love for you. My current students and I are
now the biggest Fever fans the weaver.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so cute. That was my third
grade teacher.
Speaker 6: She's gonna do with me in third grade and I
was so competitive. So I'm sorry to her, I'm go bad.
But the Fever fright, she says, she and her class
and all the kids at your school.
Speaker 1: And how about all the kids out there? What kind
of message do you want to to send to them?
But what would you like to say to them about
achieving their dream?
Speaker 3: Because this has been your dream as long as you
can remember.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is like just dream big.
And you know, obviously I went to the University of Iowa.
I'm from Iowa. Like I kind of just bet on
myself and I always believed in myself, and I think
that's the biggest thing. From a young age, like my
parents always instilled confidence in me. You know, they never
told me I couldn't achieve something. But also like I
worked really hard for it, and I think that's what
I'm really proud of, is like I earned it, I
deserved it, and nothing was ever like given to me.
And yeah, more than anything, just believe in myself. And
that's what I'm going to try to take to the
next level.
Speaker 3: You know, you said you've had this dream since second grade.
Where what was the initial spark? Where did it first
come from?
Speaker 6: Well, I grew up with an older brother and a
younger brother, and I always wanted to be like my
older brother, Like whenever he was playing sports, I would
always tag around. I would cry all the time, Like
my mom did not like it, Like I just wanted
to be like him. And then my dad played college
sports too, so and he was my first ever basketball coach.
Speaker 3: So I say, like all that.
Speaker 1: So at the beginning of that, her response, Okay, me too, brother,
me too. I'll let you go first, because you've got
to be the first to say.
Speaker 4: At Walker, Rob this is the antithesis of wokeness right now,
because there was nothing about you know, we need more
government to help people get to this level, or you know,
I didn't make it here because you know there was
a white person who jumped in front of me, or
whatever type of guiltness, wokeness, that's the type of narrative today.
But that was all centered on hard work, good parents,
and work ethic and that's the motto that we need today,
right because everybody wants to blame their circumstances on everyone else.
But she took ownership and she's excelling tremendously.
Speaker 1: She is, and that's all positive. And here's what kind
of broke my heart a little bit is I didn't
hear her say, hey, I just you know, God gifted me.
Speaker 3: With height, no, none of that.
Speaker 1: He gifted me with a love for this. He gifted
me with fast twitch muscle fibers. And look, you can
you can create more fast twitch muscle fibers by working
and being diligent, and you can have neurological adaptations where
even if you have solwer twitch, I mean, you can
get there. So I love what she said. I love
what you said. But this is to me such a
part of modern society that that I kind of see
God up there going oh uh wow, I think, wait,
did you make yourself all these things. Yeah, right, And
I don't mean to bag on her because that's a
very small clip. And for what I know, she goes
around speaking the Lord's name athough I've never seen her
do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that a part of what America misses? That we
can see something like that, she's so accomplished, but that
the rest of the world, or at least of the
rest of America, it's not weird to them that people
don't thank God for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's but it's it's part of a society
that really doesn't have a proper view of creation and
a proper view of where we all get our gifts.
Speaker 3: And abilities from.
Speaker 4: And when you look at how we're created, to your point, Todd,
it's clear that we have a creator.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I was driving in the car the other day and
I was thinking to myself. I was looking at the
beautiful sunrise, and I'm thinking, how does an unbeliever look
at the world and go, yeah, this is just an accident.
You know, this is part of the Big Bang theory.
You just can't do that with any semblance of integrity
and logic and reason. Clearly, we all have a created
order here and it's all by God. So yeah, that's
the unfortunate thing that you do get by a lot
of these pop stars and these sports athletes, is they
they Now, there's exceptions to the rule, right, there's Patrick
Mahome Mahomes, there's others Mahons that that give credit to
God for their abilities, and that's the first thing they
say at press conferences. But then there are the others
like you just played there and the self help kind
of coaching, and this is very prevalent in high schools
around around the country and in elementary schools where you
bring in this kind of inspirational speaker and it's all
about you can do better, believe in yourself. And there's
a place for that, right, especially with a lot of
young people that have anxiety, don't have any self esteem, right,
they need some of that. But at the end of
the day, we shouldn't have any doubt in our mind
where we get our abilities from, and that is God, our.
Speaker 1: Creator, absolutely, And that's beautifully, beautifully well said. And I
would just I would maybe closes out this way when
you think about what Walker brought up that look, none
of this can be happenstantial. I love when we accidentally
see atheist organizations, admit that. I love it. And this
recently happens with NASA and they were scanning the universe
and they came across a shape that was perfectly round,
and they came along and said, well, perfect roundness doesn't
happen accidentally. Oh really, thanks for admitting that.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: Story number three, So sixty minutes went in memory. Hold
this absolute babbling that Kamala Harris issued forth on Israel.
And Walker Wildman's with me. He is the grandson of
the great Don Wildman, who started American Family Radio, American
Family Association, one hundred and eighty radio stations, publications, documentaries, films,
and Walkers a program there, as father's a program there.
I have a program there. And Walker, I wanted to
get you in to respond to this and think about
I find it difficult to. I'll just admit it to
to not hate Kamala Harris, and we're called to not
do that. And I will look you in the eyes
of Brother in Christ and tell you I've never prayed
for her. Yeah, and I know we're called to do that.
Will you look me in the eye and tell me
you love Glarus?
Speaker 4: Well, I can't do that, Todd with honesty, And I
can't with honesty looking look in your eyes and tell
you that I prayed for her specifically. Now I pray
for our leaders right broadly, but not her by name.
And there it is a hard balance Todd to to
love people because people are all created in the image
of God. Not all people are children of God, which
is a common misconception, right right, The only people that
are children of God are those who believe in Him
and believe in Jesus for salvation. But everyone, even unbelievers,
are all created in His image right and under His authority,
and so Kamala Harris is no different. So there's this
fine balance as believers because we don't like what she
is promoting, and it's it's really an ideological and a
heart thing. And what she's promoting, whether it be abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism,
or just a complete loss of sovereignty as a nation
through illegal immigration, it's very very evil and wicked things.
So we have to strike that balance between being against
what she is for, which are very evil things, but
also not forgetting that she's a human too and she
needs her soul saved and rescued.
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Speaker 1: Let's look at this, this sixty minutes gift that they
are trying to give Kamala Harris, although they're getting caught
at this. Let's watch.
Speaker 8: But it seems that Prime Minister netanya who is not listening.
Speaker 9: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
in the region.
Speaker 8: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
Speaker 9: We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary
for the United States to be clear about where we
stand on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 1: Looking at that side by side, you are an executive
and a host at a huge media network. Yeah, if
someone in your team did that and it went out
an AFR, what happens.
Speaker 4: It's selective editing, it's termination worthy. And that's what's happening here.
And this is not a campaign app put out by
Kamala Harris. This is supposed to be news. This is propaganda.
And one thing todd that needs to be explored legally
is what is an in con contribution to a campaign?
Speaker 1: Could agree more?
Speaker 4: And our networks selectively colluding with campaigns to make candidates
look good with the public. And if they're in doing that,
if they're doing that with intentionality, that is an incon
campaign contribution. Campaign contributions, folks, are not just cash contributions.
There's such thing as incon contributions. Look it up. That
really needs to be explored in our nation because that's
one of the only legal remedies to getting these major
networks to stop colluding with the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And we all watched the so
called Twitter files and the Facebook files. I remember when
Barack Obama floated the idea of putting FCC observers in newsrooms,
in government deservers, just to make sure that the news
was applied Equally, do we arganlessly believe as people in
this business that the same forces that were going to
Facebook et cetera and Twitter weren't also going to NBC
and the other networks CBS and saying we need you
to change this story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we saw.
Speaker 4: I played the Cliffield down my show of Hillary Clinton
saying that basically we've got to have the tech companies
step up to the play this election cycle and sensor
and d platform conservatives. She said, that's the only way
we're going to win is if you censor you and
me and everyone else who shares the truth on social media.
So I think there's two paths forward here. There's the
legal path of exploring the incon contributions case law that's
out there and maybe creating some new precedent and in
the courts. But also we're gonna have to really defund
these major media conglomerates.
Speaker 3: CNN.
Speaker 4: Now they're putting up paywalls. You can't read a CNN
article without a paywall. Now why because less people are
watching their networks, less people are reading their articles, So
they're having to bring in money somehow because the ad
moneys aren't doing it. So that We're just gonna have
to create alternative media, and that's what we do through
your podcast, through various shows, or American Family Radio, and
create an entire ecosystem of alternative media to really end
up bankrupting the left wing media.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, bankrupting them and then maybe one day they
might get a little introspective. Yeah, maybe one day they
might remember what it is to be journalst Because I
got to give Bill Whittaker credit. I mean Bill Whittaker,
and he's been at sixty minutes correspondent for a long time.
He knows the risk he played in asking questions like
this of Kamala Harris. Let's watch him question her about
who exactly is hurting democracy? This is video clip number four.
Was democracy best served.
Speaker 8: By President Biden stepping down and basically handing you a nomination.
He didn't have to go through a primary process, he
didn't have to fight off other contenders. That's not really
the way our system was intended to work.
Speaker 9: President Biden made a decision that I think history is
going to show is rare among leaders, which was to
put country before self. And I am proud to have
earned the support of the vast majority of delegates and
to have been elected the Democratic nominee. Proud to have
received the endorsement of leaders around this country from every
background and walk of life to fight in this election
over the next month for our democracy.
Speaker 8: But I think this truncated process is why people think
here sane. They don't really know who you are.
Speaker 9: Look, I've been in this race for seventy days.
Speaker 3: What an admission?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had the point. I heard she grew up
middle class, did you hear that?
Speaker 4: And she worked at McDonald's though even though corporate doesn't
even have her name in.
Speaker 1: This record of that, no record of that. Do you
give Whittaker credit for that? For that?
Speaker 4: I mean, I old right, that was bold, and you
know the campaign didn't agree to that going in.
Speaker 3: There's no way, right, there's no way. Now.
Speaker 4: They what they did is they said, if you're going
to do that after the fact, then we're going to
edit the clips and make it to the final production,
which is why you have two variations there. But yeah,
she was not ready for that. It was clear.
Speaker 1: If you've ever been interviewing someone who is adversarial to
you and they think they're locked and loaded for the
interview and you ask him a question have you ever
seen someone just literally blue screen, just just can't lock up. Yeah? Yeah,
Do you remember any instance, because I got to share
one with you because it was so funny.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't interview many hostile people. Yeah, we take
occasional hostile calls. Sure, yeah, what's what's your story?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: So there was a guy this was this is really
cool when I worked in radio and Spokane back before
we did tech and all that, and this guy wrote
a he created a cartoon of me and it got
into this spokes and Review. It was like a letter
to the editor and the Spokesman Review, the newspaper there
hated my guts and they published this cartoon and it
was me shooting out the phrase, well regulated militia from
the Second Amendment. So I apparently didn't understand about regular
militia or was trying to erase that. So back in
the days of phone books, I looked this guy up,
called him, said, hey, this is this is Todd Herman.
Oh my gosh, are you mad at me? No? Oh no,
this is great. Congratulations and getting it published. I'd like
to invite you on my radio program, really yes, to
talk about what guns? Yeah, Second Amendment.
Speaker 3: Let's talk this out.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're on, Okay, good. Can I ask you a favor? Please? Research?
Please come in. I do this every day, yeah, every
single day. I know this these topics very very well.
I know all the numbers. Will you please come in
well researched. I want this to be a good conversation. Absolutely.
And by the way, I'm getting a big copy of
this made and I want to put it on my wall.
I want to frame it. Would you consider signing it
for me? Oh my gosh. Absolutely, both in the opinion business.
So the guy comes in and he sits down and
I'm talking about the cartoon his background. I said, so
why do you why do you hate guns so much?
He goes, well, because so many people are murdered by them.
I go, really, how many?
Speaker 3: Silence?
Speaker 1: Well, thirty million a year? No, three million, No, gott
to be a million, zero zero, And I got the number,
if you remove suicides, is about it's about thirty thousand, right,
and honestly good this. He began turning white, lips got
a little purple, and then he ran out of the studio,
ran downstairs. True story, true story, vomited.
Speaker 3: So he wasn't ready for Proum times, I'm like, is.
Speaker 1: He coming back? And my producer, Scott, he said, I
don't think so because he just emptied breakfast.
Speaker 4: But his entire setup right of blaming inanimate objects as
if guns like right ran on the.
Speaker 3: Street, right, so right.
Speaker 1: I once showed a lady and this was my podcast.
O heard this before, but you happen't, so I abuse
you with it. We lived in Seattle, as you know,
and across the street there was his family that moved
in and our kids kind of got together a few times.
So we had them out of the house and the
lady came downstairs. Oh, she said to me, Oh, she's
sitting and she's in the farm. She goes, I understand
that you have uh guns? Yes, yes I do. Are
they are they locked up?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: There were. They're locked up so kids can't get tom.
Would you like to see them? Yes? So I took
her downstairs and there's my gun safe and from this
great company North was safe. And so I opened the
safe and she jumped back and I said, they're not snakes.
They're not going to invite you and she and she
looks at the guns and there's there may have been
three or four ar setups and some other things in there,
a lot of pistols, a lot of ammo. So she goes,
you must really like hunting. I go, yeah, it's it's
all haunting. That's why I've got all the red dot
sculpt and stuff, because.
Speaker 3: That's why mac.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's this hunting. And so she I locked
it up because you feel about She goes, I do.
I'm glad those are secured. She invited us over to
her home. She was a farmer rap and so we're sitting,
we're sending in the kitchen and the husband's making us
espresso and the kids are playing. And I said to her,
I go, hey, Kim, I know that you're a farmer
wrap and probably have sample drugs. Are those in the house?
Oh yes, but they're in my office. Is the office
door locked? Oh? Oh no, so the kids can get
out those? Oh my gosh. Well let me show you.
There's samples all over. Does the door lock?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: There you go. Right, And she had been tuitioned. I'll
close the most dangerous thing of society.
Speaker 1: I'll keep it. And the way, the story and what
I loved. As I walk back into the kitchen, her
husband goes, well done, right, so perfect We started this
conversation talking about neither of us specifically prayed for Kamala
and both of us should I have a trick I
use to not hate people like this. You kind of
mentioned it. I picture them in chains. If you and
I were walking through two below and we came upon
a woman chained to a tree, you and I would
stop and we would probably call the police. We would
definitely go talk to her. What happened. I've been chained
to the tree. No one will let me out. We
would do what we could to get a release from
the tree. We'd call the police, right, We'd feed her,
we'd give her water. You or I would probably take
the shirts off our backs and warmer, does it work
for you to take people I like Kamala and she's
not chained to a tree, she's chained in hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should do that more often. Absolutely,
we'll do that.
Speaker 1: Walker Wildman, American Family Radio, one of.
Speaker 3: My bosses, kind of technically one of that boss one
of my.
Speaker 1: Colleagues as well. On American Family Radio. This is the
Todd Herman Show. Please go be well, be strong, be kind,
Please make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.