WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:01.960 Baby, I'm a gangster too. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:05.519 It takes a little tangle. You don't want to. 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:06.599 Mess with me. 4 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:08.359 Mess with me, baby, I'm. 5 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:16.960 A gangster too. Ohuch, baby, you're a Gangstato. 6 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:26.760 For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you 7 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.800 outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 8 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:31.879 Listening discretion is a vibe. 9 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:39.479 The fellas. 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.079 This ain't my first time at the rodeos. 11 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:20.680 Welcome to the occult Rejects. Today we've got some ogs 12 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:22.760 with us people haven't been on in a while or 13 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.359 on as often. Today we got returning with us, Teresa 14 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.760 the Spiritual Gangster. What is going on, Teresa? How's it been. 15 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.640 It's been good, It's been busy. What good? 16 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.319 Yes, thank you of course, and thank you for joining us. 17 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.799 Do you want to plug anything, mention anything? 18 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:39.799 Yeah? 19 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:40.200 Sure. 20 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:43.280 So I've been really busy doing some handmade stuff, which 21 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.359 is what I've done for a long time. But I 22 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.239 have this new thing which you're kindly letting me plug 23 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.000 on here. It's called silly pops. So if anyone's into 24 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:56.159 like sensory stuff like slime picky pads, I don't know 25 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.840 if anyone's heard of that. So basically what I've made 26 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.280 is this thing right here, a hold on. You can 27 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:02.920 see it on the camera if you're watching on video. 28 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:05.599 I'm holding it up, so it's like a silicone puck 29 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:08.479 and it's got all these like beads and charms and 30 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:09.919 like different textures inside. 31 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.800 It's very squishy there. 32 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.680 It goes very squishy and very fun and when the 33 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.159 fun part is when you pop everything out, it's like 34 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.319 super satisfying, just like when you play with slime. 35 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:20.560 Right. 36 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.599 So in the kit though, I include like string and 37 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:27.919 like a keychain thing, so you can like actually make 38 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.039 something with it, so not just like squishing stuff and 39 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:33.400 then putting it back in the jar. You can actually 40 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.280 do stuff like make a keychain, bracelet, charm. So if 41 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.599 you have kids who are intosensory things I know a 42 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.400 lot of like autistic children or ADHD, it's really good 43 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:45.599 for keeping them busy like a fidget toy. 44 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:47.719 So yeah, I'm doing that right now. 45 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:51.280 I'm in a couple stores just create some markets coming up, 46 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.360 so if you're in like the Toronto area, come see me. 47 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.560 And on Instagram it's at Silly Pop Shop and it's 48 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.879 on Etsy under Sillypop Shop as well. 49 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.000 So yeah, thanks for letting me do my thing. 50 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.199 Hell, yeah, no, of course, of course that ship. I 51 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.120 think that ship is. It's awesome checking out everything you've 52 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.439 been posting. So some good for you, and uh, thank 53 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.479 you for joining us today. It's been a while, you know. 54 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.879 Always look forward to Robbie. Uh you know, story time 55 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:15.439 with Robbie and. 56 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:17.800 I can't miss that. 57 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.560 Yeah, so thank you very much. And h Alenk's for 58 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.520 her and Spiritual Gangsters will be down in the bottom 59 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.520 anyway well as well. And Frida Jena Ninja what is 60 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:27.840 going on? 61 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.439 Thank you Cardinal. Sorry I coun't figure out my mic 62 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:35.240 for a second. Yeah, thank you so much. That's so 63 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.439 cool to hear that Teresa is doing that. So big, 64 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.879 big support and shout out to that because that's that's 65 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.599 really amazing to like do a brand and a product. 66 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.360 I know it's a lot of work, so it is. 67 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:47.439 It's good though. 68 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:49.039 It's interesting, it's really. 69 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.039 Cool, it's really sh it looks like it's like belongs 70 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:52.680 in the store. It's pretty impressive. 71 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.680 That's right, Thank you. 72 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:57.000 I feel key. 73 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:59.479 Oh so Jen you want to plug your. 74 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.199 Yeah, sorry about that, so you can find me out. 75 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.400 Wukong reborn to the UK and g Reborn I chose 76 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.759 called Threshold Saints. Obviously, uh, Robbie and Nick were a 77 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.960 big part of that book. They were the part of 78 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:16.160 the Book of Enoch series. Obviously, Robbie was the storyteller 79 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:17.680 for that, and Nick and I were kind of the 80 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:22.839 captive audience slash comment extra commentator. So thank you so 81 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.360 much for I was like the first Robbie Mark series 82 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.959 on my feed. So really cool to have done that 83 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:30.560 and made that full journey. 84 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:31.759 So thank you so much. 85 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:34.399 Helly, thank you very much. I enjoyed that as well. 86 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:38.240 And we got Lisa the Occult Reject mad Scientist, how 87 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:38.560 will you. 88 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.639 Good? Thank you for inviting me. I am very excited 89 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.600 to be on with Robbie Mark's story time. I hear 90 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.439 all the amazing things about it, so this is my 91 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.360 first story time with Robbie, so I'm very very excited. 92 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.040 The only thing I need to plug is the Occult 93 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.639 Research Institute dot org. Some of our contributors have, some 94 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.839 of the rejects have contributed to to the website content 95 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.040 in literary form, So check us out there on a 96 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.439 cool research institute dot org. 97 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.879 Thank you, thank you very much, appreciate that. And we 98 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.519 got the Cosmic Peach Julia herself what is going on? 99 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:14.240 How are you? 100 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:16.000 What's up? 101 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.279 This is my first story time too, and I couldn't 102 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.920 ask for a better crew of people to do it with. 103 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:26.279 We've got Teresa, Lisa, Robbie jin Oh my goodness, this 104 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:31.399 is a dream team. Yeah, Cosmic Peach podcast, you know 105 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.759 the drill. But excited to be here, Robbie looking forward 106 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:35.000 to it. 107 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.240 It's nice, all right, So we got Robbie Marx. What 108 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:41.120 is going on? So we're going to be talking about 109 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:45.160 the origins of attis. So let everybody know too, like 110 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:46.720 where they can find all your stuff in your art 111 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:47.480 and everything. Please. 112 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.399 Yeah, And for those who don't know who I am, 113 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:53.879 I'm an artist, man. I'm doing professional art for thirty 114 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.399 five years for various bands, festivals, mom and pop shops, logos, 115 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:04.000 anything anybody really And basically I just grind away at that. 116 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.439 And while I'm doing that, I have books going in 117 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.639 the background, and I'm constantly researching and taking notes, and 118 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.600 I build these databases of these various notes and kind 119 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.680 of today, Oh before that, I was gonna say, if 120 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.560 you want to find all my stuff, you can go 121 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.560 to my link tree, which is link tree r M 122 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.759 A r X and that'll pull up everything for me 123 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:29.720 as far as my website, my Etsy, my Patreon, my podcast, 124 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:31.879 everything you want to find is going to be there. 125 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.480 So but today we're going to cover the origins of 126 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.759 Attis this character. He's a Phrygian character, and this ties 127 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:46.600 back into some of the earliest origins of the mystery schools. 128 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:52.879 Than you. Yeah, I don't know anything about it, so correct, 129 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.759 So I guess wherever you want to like this, wherever 130 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:56.360 you like to start. 131 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:01.879 Now, when we go into the Egyptians the pri Salron, 132 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.199 they acknowledge the fact that the Phrygians were a nation 133 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:10.720 that was older even than the Egyptians, right, And Josephus 134 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.439 says that the Phrygians were founded by the biblical figure 135 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:23.399 of Togaram Togarma. And this Togarma is basically in the 136 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:27.279 line of Noah. He's associated with the line of Jaffat 137 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:31.399 and the people of Anatolia, which in that line we 138 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.519 also find Cagnus, who is the one that brought the 139 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:39.439 writing and the characters into ancient Greece from the east, right, 140 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.360 And it's also generally associated with the line of the 141 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:50.959 Hebrew people and the foundations of Armenia. So now the Phrygians. 142 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:58.439 They are possibly Thracians, settling in the northwestern Anatolia in 143 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.720 the late second line of BC upon the disintegration of 144 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.160 the Hittite kingdom. So this is a really old kind 145 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.480 of you know, when we get into the Samerians. We've 146 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:15.480 talked about the Samerians before in regard to their culture. 147 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.360 It just emerges out of nothing, just full form, and 148 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:23.000 they have you know, writers and actors and doctors and 149 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.639 surgeons and like cookbooks, and they already have methods of 150 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.000 accounting and bookkeeping and so you know, they just kind 151 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.879 of appear out of nothing as this full form. And 152 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.240 this is after the deluge, and you kind of get 153 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.279 into with the Samerian kings lists you know, it's basically 154 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:45.159 the pre Deluvian kings before the global flood. And they 155 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:49.120 have a character very similar to Noah, which is Zasudra. 156 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:54.879 And so this kind of ties in with the Western 157 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.840 ideas of the Bible and Judaism and this idea of 158 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:04.960 the global flood, and they are a post flood kind 159 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:14.279 of society right now. The Phrygians moving to the Central Highlands, 160 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:22.000 founding their capital of Gordium with an important religious center 161 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.200 at Midas city. So this is where we get King 162 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:32.799 midas Is in ancientists. Yeah, exactly exactly. Herodotus of Halikarnassis 163 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.600 tells us that the Phrygians were in fact Thracian Brigians 164 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.879 who had once crossed the Hellespont in the histories, also 165 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.200 telling us that the Phrygians are the parents of the 166 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:49.320 Armenian people. So this ties in with our Armenians again. 167 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:56.840 Let's see now an Arnobius considered Addis to be a 168 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:03.480 Lydian word meaning young man. So this Addis character, he's 169 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:09.960 kind of this suppliant of the goddess Kibili and kind 170 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.679 of is madly in love with her. And this is 171 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:18.919 basically the foundations of the Phrygian mystery schools, which when 172 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:24.519 you see ancient Phrygia you see the revolution like the 173 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:30.200 Papa Smurf type at Yeah, that's the Phrygian cap. So 174 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.440 this is where the Phrygian cap comes from, right, And 175 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.200 that hat it dates all the way back into the 176 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:43.759 Saturnian age. Who was it one of the ancient Saturnian 177 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.080 I'll remember it as we go, But he basically was 178 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:51.960 the god of the pine tree, and Addis is the 179 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.879 god of the pine tree. Just like Osyrus was the 180 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.720 god of the great fir. Just so you see all 181 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:06.559 these these different castrated like religious figures being associated with 182 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.840 different types of trees in the different lands. As this 183 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:15.399 mythology spreads right, and it's generally because the trees of 184 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.360 the pine tree, the fir tree, these are evergreen trees. 185 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.200 They're symbols of everlasting life. So it's the idea that 186 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.879 even in the winter when the snow would come, the 187 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.559 evergreen trees would still stay green and would be the 188 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.679 only color you would see in the winter time, much 189 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.440 like where I live here in New Hampshire. So this 190 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:40.159 was basically this idea of the afterlife and the possibility 191 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:45.519 of the individual soul moving into higher form and living 192 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:49.519 into eternity. Whereas you know when you look at a 193 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.639 lot of the ancient cultures, they believe that you would 194 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.559 die and go to a holding place or a middle 195 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:59.159 ground or some sort of a place to wait for 196 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:03.200 the end of time. Whereas this is an emerging thought 197 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.159 form that is basically bringing about this idea of higher 198 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.840 ascended levels of being in much like you see in 199 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.960 some Judaism, such certain sects, certain sects of Judaism don't 200 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.559 believe in an afterlife whereas others do. And then you 201 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.799 have the Christians in regard to Jesus, you know, opening 202 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.559 the way for everyone to ascend the heavens. So you 203 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.480 see this evolving idea, you know, going back I would 204 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.279 say upwards of at least ten to twelve thousand years. 205 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.679 We have documented evidence of this evolving thought form. 206 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:42.039 Right. 207 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:49.679 Let's see now, our Nobius considered Addis to be a 208 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.679 Lydian word meaning young man. I said that, right, and 209 00:12:53.840 --> 00:13:02.559 others believe that addis to be derived from the region attagus, 210 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:08.039 which means goat. Right, So there's this idea within, yeah, 211 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:13.639 within Addis of this. You know, his name directly relates 212 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:17.000 to the goat, and he is raised and fed by goats, 213 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.360 just like his grand Once you get to the Greek 214 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:28.120 mythologies and relations to Addis and Agnotus, Zeus himself was 215 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.480 also fed by a goat when he was hidden away. 216 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.960 This goat amethea that basically they end up slaughtering and 217 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:39.519 the different parts become these sacred objects in Greek mythology. 218 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:44.559 I have a quick question for you, actually, so this character, 219 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:48.679 this is like a mystical being or does does he 220 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:53.080 have like any divine or supernatural abilities or was he 221 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:55.559 more like a prophet type of person? 222 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:59.799 Right right, that's a good question. When you look back 223 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:05.080 at an attis he is well? He sprung forth by 224 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:10.080 mother Kibli and she is an androgen. This gets into 225 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:13.799 the virgin births right as far as mother Mary being 226 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.120 a virgin birth And just so you have this idea 227 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.440 of parthogenesis is really what it is. And parthogenesis is 228 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:28.799 the idea that within certain animal kingdoms, certain species can 229 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.240 inseminate themselves and basically create their own children. And this 230 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:37.200 happens in amphibians, this happens in snakes, this happens in 231 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:42.600 There is a botanist in Sweden named Lynn Cantrell that 232 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:47.799 wrote a whole book on parthogenesis, and she estimates that 233 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:51.879 after the Great Flood that humanity was in such a 234 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:56.320 state of chaos that it's it's like when the horseshoe 235 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.879 crab raises its tail in the ocean and the whole 236 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.879 moanes that are in the water tell them how many 237 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.279 boys and how many girls there are, and it tells 238 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.000 them how to you know whether to make more boys 239 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.399 or more boys or girls to stabilize the population. That 240 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.840 there's this idea that you know, humanity and the genetics 241 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.559 from such stress that women begin to inciminate themselves and 242 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.879 have the oh yeah, yeah yeah, so and this is 243 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.879 you know, but it directly ties into the idea of 244 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:31.799 these virgin bursts of these and if you figure and 245 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.840 you take the woman's genetics and she has everything to reproduce, 246 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.480 the male just basically provides some variability in the equation 247 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.759 as far as so you don't get you know, too 248 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.879 much repetition and mutation. But if you take the pure 249 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:52.440 genetics of the same programming and combine them together, the idea, 250 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.320 at least within my mind, is that you're creating these 251 00:15:55.559 --> 00:16:00.240 vessels that are of a different frequency, that are more 252 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.759 open to higher energies kind of subsiding within them. So 253 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.960 you know, basically this Addus character being an offspring of 254 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:15.600 the Andrew John Mother Kibili is a mortal man and 255 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.559 he's not immortal, but at the same time, he's the 256 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.879 offspring of the gods, and he's like higher sended form, 257 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:27.679 so he but he's the suppulant and he loves Mother Kibli, 258 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:33.639 So basically he devotes his life to her as a 259 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.720 As a he becomes a priest basically or a priestess 260 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:42.279 of a mother Kibli at one point. 261 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.200 Do you find it interesting that, like it's it's kind 262 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:48.960 of like you were saying with the evolution of people 263 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:55.279 thinking about the afterlife, and how you mentioned like most 264 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.240 of them believed that you had to go to this 265 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.840 purgatory resting place, and then it was like out of nowhere, 266 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:05.759 everybody there was like a surge of higher thinking, like 267 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.279 maybe we don't go to some weird locker room in 268 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:10.519 the middle of the earth. 269 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.839 Maybe we do go to like eaven or something like that. 270 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.519 Do you feel like it wasn't just like Addis, but 271 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:19.960 like many characters around the same time kind of like 272 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.319 ascended us into that thinking for sure. 273 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:27.000 But Addis is the oldest documented. 274 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.920 Form that we have, Okay, okay, all right. 275 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:32.200 Right, Whereas most of these characters that we look at 276 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.960 within the ancient times, from Osyrius to Nimrod to Tammuz 277 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.119 to Adonnus, these are all characters that are in the 278 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:49.480 that three thousand to thousand BC area, whereas Mother Kibili 279 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.640 and Addis go back about ten thousand BC. 280 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:58.960 Okay, so this is like one of the og right, Okay, But. 281 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:03.559 At the same time, time you can trace Mother Kibbi 282 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.559 or ky Bell or Sybil, you can trace her all 283 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.799 the way back to Ishtar Anana, and Anana is probably 284 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:16.599 the early whereas Addis is probably the earliest form of 285 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:22.519 this male like transcendent figure. But Kibbly you can trace 286 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.160 all the way back to Anana, which you know, and 287 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.799 Mother Kibbily her grand secret, I'll just spill it in 288 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.920 the beginning, is that she is an Andrew John. She 289 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.480 is the great hermaphrodite, right, and if you trace that 290 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:41.640 back to Anana. And Nana was very much a transgender 291 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.880 figure too. It's spoken of that in the from the 292 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:50.519 Library of Ashra Barnapaul, where we get the epic of Gilgamesh. Right, 293 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.279 they basically speak of Anana going into the al room 294 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.519 or the pub or the bar, and basically she is 295 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.319 a woman on one side and when she's talking to 296 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:04.359 a man, and she's a man on the other side 297 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:06.920 when she's talking to a woman. And in the ancient 298 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:12.039 festivals of Anana, they would actually dress in garb that 299 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.880 and we see this, but like in the NTV music 300 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.720 Wards with Madonna and Britney Spears where she dresses half 301 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.039 and half in half man and half woman's clothing. This 302 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.039 goes all the way back to ancient Nana and the 303 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.519 earliest records of this, uh harmaphroditism. 304 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.440 So do you think that's why like the transgenderism or 305 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.920 like gender fluid anything is like kind of sacred, like 306 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.640 not even like with the baphomet, like the breasted goat 307 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:46.480 or whatever. And we kind of see like society in 308 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.200 general is kind of leaning towards that a little bit, 309 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:52.119 you know, recently, but so it's part of like the 310 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.759 mystery school thing. It's like, oh yeah, that's like the 311 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:58.480 upper echelon, Like if you can get yourself to the 312 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.839 point where you're not mass skilling or feminine, you're just 313 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.400 like a being that floats somewhere in the middle, Like 314 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.759 that's the highest you can get, right, right, And. 315 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.720 That goes back to before you know, there's ancient tales 316 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.279 of the hermaphrodite that was basically when the sexes were 317 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:19.160 split by Zeus. In Greek mythology, you go back into 318 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.599 the old some of the old Hindu texts, and they 319 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:28.119 have tales of groups of Andregin beings that basically kind 320 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:31.160 of faded away because they weren't able to produce very 321 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:36.680 well you see this, uh, but none and even what 322 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:42.640 was it? I believe Indra was kind of a center 323 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:46.599 type energy that was neither male nor female. So you 324 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:50.400 kind of and and it's just in regard to the creation, 325 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:55.279 you know, the what it comes down to is the 326 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.599 the creation of life without the sexual act. You know. 327 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.559 I was just gonna ask that, do you think that Cybe, 328 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.960 I would cybel chimell whatever. I always I always viewed 329 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.119 her as not so much as a hermaphrodite, but that 330 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.039 it was a representation of parthagenesis, yes, and that it 331 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:26.200 was the alchemical wedding that all the alchemists achieve to master. 332 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:29.920 So it wasn't so something I feel like it was 333 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.759 taken an adulterated or bastardized. 334 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:34.599 But it was. 335 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.839 Not an art form. You can only say so much. 336 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.559 You can only draw so much, right and and you know, 337 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:47.799 fly wings indicate flight. You can't draw something in the air, 338 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.920 you know, because you're only you know, two dimensional with art. 339 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.359 But and I felt like Cybelle or Kybell whatever was 340 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:01.799 was a representation of trying to indicate a virgin birth, partagenesis. 341 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:04.720 And what you said, with part of genesis, you get 342 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.720 such little variability. It's almost like a clone of the mother, 343 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:12.599 because it's all of the genetics of the mother. Yes, right, 344 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:15.000 Even if you mix up the genetics and you get 345 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.039 you know, whatever type of combination, you're still dealing with 346 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:21.640 all of the mother. And when you don't have that 347 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.599 secondary input of variability, it leads to genetic bottlenecking. And 348 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.759 so what we see is hybrid vigor and biodiversity sustains 349 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:35.519 any population. But you're absolutely right in that there was 350 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.440 a time where parthagenesis had to exist because there was 351 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.079 no other way but to be back off of that. 352 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:46.400 And I don't mean to labor this, but you're with Adams. 353 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:51.519 He was her son, wasn't he right? So is this 354 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.279 somewhat of a reversal storyline? I don't know if you're 355 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:57.920 familiar with the story of Adam and Eve at the 356 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:03.079 end of the book, how Eve was Adam's daughter and 357 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.119 it was through copulation with his daughter that he created 358 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.920 the rest of humanity after did the flood. It almost 359 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.480 seems like it's a reversal of the story almost. 360 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:19.960 And as in regard to Nepota, like having specs within 361 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:24.279 your own family, I think that maybe those stories were 362 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:28.680 generally shifted where within that chemical you know, you have 363 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:32.319 Adam and Eve growing apart from each other like cartilage 364 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:36.359 from a single being in a form of like cellular reproduction, 365 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:41.720 right whereas in the Biblical Escape you have them taking 366 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.279 a piece of man's rib and creating her through sort 367 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:50.920 of cloning, you know. But nonetheless, yes, very much, you 368 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:54.319 have this, and you see this often as well with 369 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:59.680 the mother goddesses, like Isis marrying Horus, who is the 370 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:03.400 off spring of Osiris, that so she's marrying her son. 371 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:08.960 You have this constant, incestuous kind of thing going on 372 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:13.759 for the production of these quote unquote you know, divine 373 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:17.920 lines once they're incarnated into the physical realm, and it's 374 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:23.240 you know, almost like the necessary function of bringing forth civilization, 375 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:27.319 you know, in order to produce as much as possible. 376 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.359 Well it sounds more. Oh sorry, no, finish, finish. 377 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.519 No, just one more point and I'm done it almost 378 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:36.559 If you think about it and you remove the whole 379 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.680 you know, uh, pedophilia, and just remove that, you know, 380 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.240 just put it on the shelf for now for the 381 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.240 sake of explanation. If you think about Parth of Genesis 382 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.279 and you think about a virgin birth, it is a 383 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.359 clone of the mother, just in version of a male. 384 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.680 So you're taking female DNA of the mother and transforming 385 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.039 it into male. So she is pretty much having sex 386 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:03.319 with herself, yes, as a male, right, And so it's 387 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.839 no longer And I'm not by no means like condoning 388 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.960 all that other stuff. I'm just saying, if you think 389 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:14.160 about it biologically, she's having intercourse with herself in a 390 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:19.400 male version, yep. And therefore to propagate the species. 391 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.960 Yes, the demon if that helps r No, No, for sure, 392 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.359 for sure. And that's why this stuff is so interesting 393 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:31.640 to look at because it challenges the foundational ideas of creation. 394 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:35.599 It helps us try to understand further how we were created, 395 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.720 why we're here, which is the ultimate questions, who are 396 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:39.759 we and why are we're here? 397 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:40.200 You know? 398 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:44.559 So these are like foundational ideas that you know, are 399 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:50.599 the bread basket of humanity as far as our own histories. 400 00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:52.960 They give us a greater understanding of ourselves. 401 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:53.680 You know. 402 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.680 Well, I was going to say, it just sounds like 403 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.920 the practices that you know, these elite families. He's continued 404 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:05.039 today hundred So it's like, you know, this is what 405 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.759 the gods were doing. Yes, they consider ourselves of these 406 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.240 elite bloodlines, they continue the same practices. Is very interesting 407 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.359 and also sorry what Julia was touching on before. It 408 00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:20.799 sounds like the ancient way of like honoring the hermaphroda 409 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:25.039 is very like asexual, right, Like it's not really like 410 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:30.039 a huge it's yeah, it's not emphasized, whereas like you know, 411 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.039 the modern day let's say, pride movements, you know, alphabet 412 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:40.720 people's whatever. It's like taking on this like inversion of 413 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.759 it or like a bastardization of it, you know, a 414 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:46.119 mockery of it. 415 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.000 It's like a mockery of it. You know, I don't know, 416 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:50.000 I just find that interesting. 417 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.880 Yeah, but we find we find with Addis, you know, 418 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:57.160 and I guess a couple of stories here, but you know, 419 00:26:57.319 --> 00:26:59.920 in one story, he climbs to the amount of top, 420 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.000 to the top of Mount Agdatus, and he's basically in 421 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:08.400 shame and he, you know, castrates himself. In another, he's 422 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:13.880 getting married to this leading queen and mother Kibli shows 423 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.319 up and he goes insane and castrates himself. And this 424 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.559 all comes down to the idea of Attis's supplication to Kibili, 425 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.640 but not in a sexual manner. It cuts off the sect. 426 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.880 It's it's higher than you know tontra or higher than 427 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.799 in a way, it is a certain sort of tontra 428 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:43.519 in completely limiting the sex to zero, you know, and 429 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:49.000 all bodily lusts and pleasures in association with you know 430 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.559 what that part of the nervous system brings. 431 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.720 You know, I've said it multiple times on the show, 432 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.799 I'm sure to research and Lisa, I've heard Juliet maybe 433 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.839 not so much because she's just you know now, she 434 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.559 hasn't heard me bring this up multiple times, but you 435 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.480 have said it before. I think even looking at the 436 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.440 Tree of life, if you want to ascend the tree 437 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.079 and have a magical experience, I do think you are 438 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:17.759 like the two energies working together, but like you said, 439 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.839 not in an actual sexual way at all. I think 440 00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.680 it is basically in a way of like unfucking yourself. 441 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.079 Really yeah, and it's pretty much taking your DNA and 442 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.640 twisting it to it looks like a ladder and then 443 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:34.000 you climb that. Yes, yeah, and the two energies work together, 444 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:35.839 and that's why they do start to split, which is 445 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:37.960 why I think you always see the hermaphrodite one side 446 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.279 in one side once inside. 447 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.279 The tree really interesting to me, which. 448 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.519 Which is why the in spirit I don't think, I mean, 449 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.400 I don't think angels can fuck, right, I mean, do 450 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:48.759 they have Dixon the Chinese? 451 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.680 Well there they're associated with, like some of them are 452 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:59.559 being masculine, being masculine or Rogers too, right, because it's 453 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:05.200 like Michael and Uriel and like they have Gabriel Raphael, 454 00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:10.839 those are like masculine names. But I mean do angels 455 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.200 really I mean, if you go with the Nephelene story, 456 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.799 the fallen angels, they they were very interested in getting 457 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.640 freakd nasty, you know. But in a sense to me, 458 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:29.680 I've always thought that like mysticism was to transcend out 459 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.119 of your physical body as far as like wanting sex 460 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.799 and wanting like it, because when you have sex, the 461 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.039 act itself traps you in this physical body and you're 462 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:42.720 very identifying with it. 463 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:48.240 Right shopper that grounds you and pulls you down. And Yeah, 464 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.319 there's a story of the golden flower right that this, Uh, 465 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.359 I think it was Gilgamesh he died, he dove down 466 00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.920 or the golden flower directly relates to Gilgamesh. But Yogamesh 467 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:04.559 dove down to retrieve this golden flower of immortality and 468 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.440 he was gonna eat it, but before he came back up, 469 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.359 before he could eat it, a serpent came and ate it. 470 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.480 And it's basically the idea that he exerted all of 471 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:19.279 his force through sexual energy and lost the rising tide 472 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.480 that led to immortality because of the serpent, because of 473 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:28.799 the sexuality. So yeah, this is definitely I. 474 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.400 Wonder if the fallen angel situations might have been more 475 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.680 of an energetic sexuality, not like a little wondering. 476 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.240 I think it's I think that's when you actually start 477 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.839 using the physical to create. Yeah, I think, to get 478 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:46.680 real deep, I think that's when the eyeb I think 479 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:48.680 it's just it's just also a description of when the 480 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.359 eyeballs take take on and you actually fall in love 481 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.640 and create with this outside world instead of inside. 482 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.880 Right right now, in the Bible, speaking to what you 483 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.599 were just talking about, as far as energy, now, the 484 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:05.839 Bible specifically says that they came into them, so you can. 485 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.440 I was just say, yeah, but but it's like hot nuts. 486 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.039 Well yeah, but it's c a m e right. 487 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:17.839 Thing. 488 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.920 But it could be their energies came into them. 489 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.279 So join right, like like possession. 490 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:31.920 Oh my more quicksilver, Like they're filling the vessel with 491 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.599 energy's quicksilver, and like we're trying to talking about in 492 00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.880 the chat, it's it's more energetic. You have to it's not. 493 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:39.839 It's not literal. 494 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.920 That's a lot of conspiracy people make. I'm not saying 495 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:43.400 any of us. 496 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.440 None of us were all like you used to think 497 00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.640 it was more literal, but now I definitely did. I 498 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.599 thought they were just blowing loads all over the all pregnant, 499 00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.680 like one of the great renown of. 500 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:06.680 The you know, so yeah, but I think also, isn't 501 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.759 it like during conception, when you have that explosion between 502 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:15.599 the supermatozoa and the ovum, you have the opportunity to 503 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.240 capture energy and transform it and fix it into matter. 504 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.279 And so when I heard that, you know, you have 505 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:29.000 these angels that are coming in. Instead of the matrix, 506 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.839 the matris of the woman capturing energy and bringing it 507 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.960 into her and capturing it into matter. The angels came 508 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.920 in and basically was like, no, I'm putting my energy 509 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.880 instead of hers calling for yes, right like they played 510 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.039 that interception game and you know, foul on the play, 511 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.759 and then was like, no, I'm putting my energy in 512 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.880 that and the same concept happens with cloning and that 513 00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.480 you get an immortalized cell. Say it's mine, and you 514 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.559 want to make a clone of Nick. So you take 515 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.240 you basically keep the outer portion of the cell, and 516 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.240 you take out my DNA and you insert his and 517 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.839 so you're basically housing next DNA inside my cellular membrane, 518 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.799 and then my cellular membrane is activating mixed DNA to 519 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.640 now start to replicate. All you need is a housing unit, 520 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.839 which is the outside of the cell, like the whole 521 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:29.200 transfer the DNA. 522 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:34.960 The Holy Spirit supposedly like did to marry? Oh we 523 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.799 don't think that story as sexual? 524 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.359 I don't. I don't because why. 525 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.000 Why would we think the Fallen Angels was sexual? It 526 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.759 could just be the same situation. 527 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.039 Is not here. But this is a barn burner. 528 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:54.519 Oh yeah, he was supposed to. 529 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.640 You can see the dialectical errors. I'm just gonna be 530 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.200 honest there. You can see the errors that Mormonism kind 531 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.000 of makes with this. They kind of always bring it 532 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.039 back down to nutsalk and that's like their prime focus. 533 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.960 But and like Lisa's saying, it's super important, but there 534 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.559 has to be something with ho. There has to be 535 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.400 something with yusoad. It has to happen in synthesis. It's 536 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.119 not in polarity. Right, It's like inns. That's what this 537 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.159 is all about. And to go off Lisa's point, Teresa 538 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.639 Yield know this. But Ganesh or Ganapati as we call 539 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.800 him in Buddhism, he is the son that is only 540 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.639 begotten by the mother. Now when she creates him, she 541 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.679 does use the story as the story goes, she does 542 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.039 use some of the seeds or the quicksilver from Shiva. 543 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.400 But he didn't know that he took it from her, 544 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.079 so it's like in ignorance, so it's not really it's 545 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.760 not really his son. It's only begotten by the mother. 546 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.239 So that's a really interesting parallel. 547 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:03.320 Yeah, and what was it the Anana? I'll get into 548 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:07.079 it here in a little bit, but Yeah, after Addis 549 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.880 had castrated himself, the blood that fell on the ground, right, 550 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.440 it produced a tree that grew in real time and 551 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:20.280 put forth fruit instantly. Right, And the goddess basically saw 552 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.360 this beautiful tree full of fruit and picked up In 553 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.639 some tales it's a pomegranate, and other tales it's an almond, 554 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.440 and basically was holding them gathering them and holding them 555 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.039 in their bosom, and one of them went into her 556 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:39.760 and basically created you know, parthagenesis. So you see this 557 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.199 over and over again, and in some of the Eastern tales. Yeah, 558 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.960 one more thing, And some of the Eastern tales you 559 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.599 get this story of a beam of sunlight coming in 560 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.639 and they would basically keep the children off the floor 561 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.800 until they hit puberty. So they were in between heaven 562 00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.840 and earth, and if they touched the earth, they were polluted, right, 563 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.400 but a beam of sunlight would come in and basically 564 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.119 inciminate her without the act of sex. 565 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.079 Go ahead, Lisa, when you say castration, are you just 566 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.719 I don't mean to be graphic, but I genuinely want 567 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.920 to know. Are you just removing the testicles or you 568 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.199 removing the testicles and urethraw. 569 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.119 I'm assuming you're moving the whole If you look at 570 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.559 the templars. 571 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:23.800 So it's a complete mutilation. 572 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:24.760 Yeah. Yeah. 573 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.320 If you look at the highest levels of the templars 574 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:32.920 that castrated themselves that are in France, their their pattern 575 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.639 of castration is basically two circles on the bottom and 576 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:45.360 one circle. So when you see these three circles, yes, yes, yeah, 577 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.760 for sure, for sure. 578 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.960 You know, you guys are killing it today. Man, I'm 579 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:51.760 already sitting over here, like what the. 580 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.679 Fuck story time is all about? 581 00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.400 This is the ancient mysteries, though, and it's all around us. 582 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.559 It's in everything that that has pervaded into modern times. 583 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:07.039 So you know, recognizing these ancient symbols gives you a 584 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.800 broader understanding of the world you're living in. 585 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.360 Well, I just wanted to say quick, since Lisa brought 586 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:13.679 it up. 587 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.280 You know, like the Heaven's Gate cult was really into 588 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:25.840 this kind of ambiguous gendering shavir head wear matching clothing, 589 00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.599 and then it got to the point where it was 590 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.800 like castration. So I don't know, it's like it's it's 591 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:37.239 very significant in cults, and you know, so I'm I'm 592 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.639 blown away, you guys, this is crazy. 593 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:46.039 So now, the oldest reference to the mysterious character of 594 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:51.400 Addis appears on a monument King Midas, and he calls 595 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:58.840 him eighth a TPS and Herodotus calls him atus at 596 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:04.639 us as well as Attus at us. Oh, that's the 597 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:10.079 same in a xanthesis of Lydia. Where as the first 598 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.559 time we see oh yeah, this is the first in 599 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.960 Lydia is the first time that we see the double T. 600 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.000 Put In is a T ti s And that's from 601 00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:24.639 these Athenian cosmic poets from around three point fifty BC, 602 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:31.320 which became the most popular spelling of it thereafter. Let's see, 603 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:41.679 according to let me hold on do, Let's see. So 604 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.360 now Ovid, are you guys familiar with with Ovid at all? 605 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:50.639 A little bit? He basically has this book called Metamorphosis, 606 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.320 and in Metamorphosis he goes through all of these different 607 00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:02.679 characters in the different mysterious religious that transformed from one 608 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:08.159 thing into another. Right, so, Ovid conveys that young Addis 609 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.760 had fallen in love with the beautiful Kibili, who made 610 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:14.599 him a promise that he would remain a boy forever. 611 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.880 But soon Addis broke his promise, falling in love with 612 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:25.280 the river nymph Stagartis. And this is a Phrygian river 613 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.840 basically that was said to be occupied by this river god, 614 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.679 and the offspring of that river god was this nymph, 615 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:40.519 and Kibili took revenge in killing the nymph, causing Adas 616 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.199 to lose his mind, with Addis fearing the furies that 617 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:48.360 were in pursuit of him to escape the perceived terrors. 618 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.119 Addis climbed to the top of Mountain Dindiemon where he 619 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:59.280 castrated himself. So let's see. And but the OVID doesn't 620 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.320 so much tell us how Adams was born, right, let's 621 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:10.679 see uh in the okay, So in a passion of 622 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:17.239 love Jupiter, who is Zeus in Roman times, he basically 623 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:23.239 approaches this mount Agnathus. So the goddess is this is 624 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.159 the mountain itself. Right. And when you go back into 625 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.480 these ancient mystery schools, they always worshiped on the high places. 626 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:35.480 They would circumambulate the mountains to the left hand side, 627 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.880 basically in alignment with the polestar. And this belief they 628 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.400 believe this was the connection out of the dome or 629 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.679 out of the glass onion into the higher realms. 630 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.679 Right, So. 631 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.880 Let's see the isn't the polestar associated with that the 632 00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:58.320 you know what, We've now come to the swastiaka because 633 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.199 a polestar was in some of it giving orbited by 634 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.360 the dippers, right, and. 635 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.760 Those dippers you go through the different cultures, you know, 636 00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:11.280 and the Egyptians they saw them as ox legs or 637 00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.719 nose nana in that story. They saw them as ox legs. 638 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.480 Maybe it was Egyptian too, but then you have the 639 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.440 mother bear as far as and you have this to 640 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.480 the druids, it was the scythe as far as you know, 641 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.039 which has to do life and death and moving between 642 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.400 you know, realms. Let's see. 643 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.840 So can I ask a quick question about the story 644 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:35.519 you just read? 645 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:36.239 Yeah? 646 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.480 Sometimes when I hear these stories, it's like reading the 647 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.119 Bible and I need like a little bit more translation. 648 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.360 Just pretend I'm a retard. It's not hard to do. 649 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.800 So he you saying he fell in love with somebody, 650 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.960 but then he could like he didn't want to be 651 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.519 with him because and then he castrated himself, or like 652 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:55.960 what happened with that? Right? 653 00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.440 If you get into the deeper into the Lydian stories 654 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.559 that were late to where Ovid got his information from, 655 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:07.599 they talk about the fact that Kibili and Addis had 656 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:11.400 fallen in love with one another even though they couldn't 657 00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:15.360 make love with one another, and that what ended up 658 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.360 happening was Addis because he was such a beautiful youth. 659 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.239 He was like everyone that saw him fell in love 660 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.320 with him. He was like a Donnas. This is where 661 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.920 we get the story of Adonnas because he was so beautiful, 662 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.760 everyone loved him. Right, So one of the kings basically 663 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.360 had had commissioned a donnas to marry his daughter, and 664 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.239 then it was Kibli that came to the marriage, and 665 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.679 when he saw her at the marriage, he went into 666 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.840 a rage and basically broke down, leading to his self 667 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:51.400 castration in dedication to the goddess Mother, his own mother Kibl. 668 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.679 Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. 669 00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:00.519 So let's see. Uh now, in a passion, did I 670 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.960 turn it back? That's okay. So in a passion of love, 671 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:09.440 Jupiter approaches Mount Agdutus, which is the mountain which appears 672 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.840 in the likes of and Early relating it to Mother Riha, 673 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.840 which all because all these goddesses tye in together isis 674 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:23.400 Mother Ria Kibli. You know, there's numerous inscriptions that talk 675 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.360 about the fact that they call her what do they 676 00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.320 call her? Moronymous is what they call her, where she 677 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.920 is the mother of many names, and she basically in 678 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.119 each culture she goes into, she takes on a different 679 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:46.119 personification of this divine mother that transmits a andreghne, you 680 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.840 know birth that of a sort of a prophet figure 681 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.320 that leads the way to show you that like the 682 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.639 exit method out of this realm? 683 00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:00.840 Right, what animal? Sorry to interrupt, what is animal behind 684 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.519 this woman? 685 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:03.360 It looks like a black ox. 686 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:05.320 That's what I was thinking too. And it's like, you 687 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.360 know again we're talking about like all the birth and 688 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.679 everything and the twisting of the crossing of the stuff. 689 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:11.000 I mean, you get an o in an X, I. 690 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.159 Mean would be the yeah in the ex six in English. 691 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.800 And also you need oxygen to live in this realm? 692 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:24.920 Yeh yeh interesting xoxo guys, And I guess in the 693 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.360 English language the only places you see six six or 694 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.119 six sixty six is an ox and fox. 695 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:34.679 So that's interesting. 696 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:41.079 Well, it is very solar, Yeah, it makes sense for triferonic, right, 697 00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:46.960 like very trifon lucipheric, almost element right. 698 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.599 Yeah, for sure, for sure. So now let's see. Uh 699 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.760 but Mount Agdatus basically the mother goddess as the mountain. 700 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.480 She does not wish to give into the advances Jupiter. 701 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.159 Right in the ensuing struggle, Jupiter shed some drops of 702 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:10.800 his semen where they are spilled over the mountain, which 703 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.440 can see from his divine insemination. The result is a 704 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.480 terrible and wild androgynous creature that is born that they 705 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:28.920 call Agdatus, so Agnatus. As the deeper I got into this, 706 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.719 the more I realized that this Agnatus is Mother Kibili you, 707 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.000 and then I began to found links where they were 708 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.519 actually and when you get into the Eastern more eastern 709 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:47.880 like Iranian texts they call, they directly match Agdatus with 710 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:49.400 Mother Kibli. 711 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:50.000 Right. 712 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.280 So, now the gods saw this androgyny as a menace, 713 00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.519 a thing from the past, from before the splitting of 714 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.840 the sex that we talked about, right, and they feared 715 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:08.599 that it was this one person with the quality of 716 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.079 two sexes that would be enabled to multiply without a partner, 717 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.719 also relating to the parthogenesis of the virgin bursts which 718 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.920 we talked about, this constituting a threat to both the 719 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.280 gods and to man. But the gods said they would 720 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.880 not outright go and put an end to Agnatus. 721 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:30.639 Right. 722 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.840 So, basically, as the gods look down, they see this 723 00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:40.719 place where Agnatus enjoys the cool shade and the springs 724 00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.719 of the fresh water, where he quenches he she quenches 725 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:49.039 his thirst. And the gods then invoked the participation of 726 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:54.480 Dionysus at this point, right. And Dionysus is sent to 727 00:46:54.679 --> 00:47:01.320 mix wine with the spring water, and Dionysus basically accepts 728 00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:06.360 this tasks. And this is Dionysus basically said to accept 729 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.920 this task so that he can gain immortality. 730 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:11.719 Right, So. 731 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:18.800 Dionysus puts the wine into the spring water where Agnatus drinks, 732 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.039 and then Agnatus, you know, drinking healthily from the water, 733 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:29.440 basically falls asleep, passes out from drinking the wine. And 734 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:34.480 then at this time, Dionysus feels up to Agnetus while 735 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.199 she's sleeping and basically takes a stout chord is what 736 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.119 they say, and affixes it to the genitals of Agdatus. 737 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:52.199 And then when Agnatus wakes up, quote unquote, it deprives 738 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.639 of that which made him a man. So then according 739 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:01.400 to our Nobius, a tree shoots up from the stilled 740 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:06.480 blood in real time and bears fruit. This just as this, 741 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.480 just as in the story of Anana that happens or 742 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.079 Nana walking past that we talked about before, right and you. 743 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.760 Know, Robie, just really quick, I mentioned it in the 744 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.320 chapter four. Since you brought it up again, I could 745 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.239 be like a little off. But the story with the 746 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.400 tree and the blood and the you know, the tree 747 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.119 sprouting from it sounds very much like parts of that 748 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:27.880 movie The Fountain. 749 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.559 The Fountain, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 750 00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:32.320 Yeah. 751 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.440 And you see this within mysticism because you know what 752 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.840 was it Athena when she created the fresh water spring 753 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.360 before Athens was formed, and she also caused an almond 754 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.920 tree to grow in real time and bear fruit before everyone. 755 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.840 That's why they elected her and named the island Athena. 756 00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.760 You see these mystical trees growing in real time in 757 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.719 different places, and even now if you go to India, 758 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.880 you know, and you read Madam book Votsky or you 759 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:03.559 read you know, some of the mystics that have gone 760 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:08.239 over and into India, they talk about the yogi's basically 761 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.119 growing trees and real time that bear fruit. So this 762 00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.679 is something within mysticism that dates, you know, as far 763 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.239 back as we can go into the the systems. 764 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:21.239 M H. 765 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.880 Interesting story. When you were telling that, I was like, ooh, 766 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.760 what does this sound like the Fountain? Yeah, you know, 767 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:28.840 I don't remember if it was her blood and his blood, 768 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.760 but I think blood was dropped and a tree grew 769 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:32.159 and there was blood coming out of the tree and 770 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.039 he was eating it out on some of the weird shit. 771 00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:40.079 Right in the park, you know, and the houses. The 772 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.920 director going to interpret symbols and inflect them in his 773 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.320 you know renderance it. 774 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.760 Oh, I think that is deep as hell, very very gnastic. 775 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:51.599 I think one of the lines in it that hit 776 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.320 me the last time I saw it, I think he says, uh, 777 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.000 in death, there is awe it just like motherfucking nailed 778 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:57.440 it right there. 779 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.639 So now at this time, because she's pregnant, basically the 780 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.199 the goddess Kitaly, she comes to send Garios basically this 781 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.400 this river, the father of the river nymph. And but 782 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:22.440 Sangarius doesn't understand the significant of the divine intervention as 783 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.760 far as the parthogenesis, you know. And this we have 784 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:31.079 in the story of Enoch uh not Enoch malchiesa deek 785 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:36.480 where you know, malchies Uh Malchesk's father, his you know, 786 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.599 doesn't understand how his wife is pregnant. We have this 787 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.159 with Joseph and Mary. We have this, you know, in 788 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.719 various porthogenic births where the husband's like, you know, uh, well, 789 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.599 in Jesus and Mary, he did understand, you know. But 790 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.880 but in this story, the husband doesn't understand, and they 791 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.719 basically leave this uh divine child when it's birthed in 792 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.760 a yield as a foundling, just for the nature to 793 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:09.440 take it. And again a goat comes and basically, you know, 794 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:13.440 feed this this young child, just like Zeus was fed 795 00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:19.440 by Amathea. And then later on the shepherds find at 796 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.800 Us and basically raise him up as a shepherd of 797 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.199 the field. So this is one of our first shepherd 798 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:30.519 like figures. And we see him carrying the goats over 799 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.519 his shoulders like Jesus carries the lambs. Oh yeah, and 800 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:41.320 it ties in with the various like Tamus when Tamus 801 00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.280 carried the goats like that as well. But he was 802 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.639 the progenitor of the fields. He could make grass grow 803 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.400 at a word. He you know, makes springs come at 804 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:58.079 a word. You know, various divine intonations. But it's when 805 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:03.920 Adas grows up unbeknownst to mother Kibily that basically, when 806 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.760 he comes of age and he's like this beautiful child 807 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.119 like Adonis. That this is when Kibberly falls in love 808 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:17.119 with him. And basically, you know, and this, you know, 809 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.519 this whole idea of the mother falling in love with 810 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.320 the son, the son castrating himself, devoting himself to the mother. 811 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.079 This all relates into whom because when we get into 812 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.679 Mother Kibberly and I didn't want to talk about her 813 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:34.079 so much, but she was generally worshiped on this mountain 814 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:39.719 as a blackstone, right, So the black stone, this was 815 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.960 a meteorite that was said to come and the goddess 816 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:47.599 incarnating herself into our physical world. You got some. 817 00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:49.760 Yea. 818 00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:54.920 But basically we can see these meteorite stones being worshiped 819 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.480 in several places, like in the corner of the Kaba 820 00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:03.519 in uh In Mecca. But nonetheless, this black stone, it 821 00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:08.880 gets commissioned to be taken to Rome because Virgil in 822 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:13.880 his book The Eniad, basically Eneus goes back to Phrygia 823 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:19.400 and ties the foundations of Rome to ancient Phrygia. Where addis, Yeah, 824 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:25.440 that's what the Eniad, the epic story that basically details 825 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.960 the foundation of Rome, is all about. Is this character 826 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:34.320 of Enius going to ancient Phrygia and basically going to 827 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.760 worship the goddess Mother and tying the foundations of Rome 828 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.239 to ancient Phrygia, which we're talking about, right. So they 829 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:47.599 end up commissioning and bringing that blackstone from Phrygia and 830 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.760 bringing it to the Palatine Hill in Rome, and she 831 00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.159 becomes the mother of all of gods over all of 832 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:58.639 the Roman religion. So they bring this Phrygian goddess that 833 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:04.039 offshoot Addis and she becomes the supreme goddess of ancient Rome. 834 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:10.239 So just in context of this whole storyline, right, I. 835 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.800 Just wanted Robbie now, I just wanted to uh interrupt 836 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.880 before about you know, you're talking about this whole thing 837 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.039 was like, you know, cutting yourself, castration, Eunichs and all 838 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.199 this stuff. I have a joked well and not joked around. 839 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.519 I tried to make like actually a serious points with this. 840 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:29.199 And you're going back to the eye. So I understand 841 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.199 that's sometimes a little bit too too deep, but a 842 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.360 little bit too much, but I have a reference before. 843 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.400 I do think the optic nerve and back of your 844 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.119 eye looks like a dick hanging. I mean when I've 845 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.599 pulled up the picture if I could, I'm not going 846 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:41.400 to go through the computer. 847 00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:41.639 Now. 848 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:43.880 I've showed it on podcasts and people are like, yeah, 849 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.760 that does look like a dick, and bolls, it does 850 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:48.159 look like that, and it's in the back of your 851 00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.800 eye and once you start falling down from that point 852 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:53.760 into the front of your eye. That's like when you 853 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:58.280 start like basically coming into birth with this world. You know, 854 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.239 at that point you're still just having a relation ship 855 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:03.920 kind of with the pineal gland and back here. You 856 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.239 haven't hit the lens yet, nothing's gotten twisted or manipulated. 857 00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.119 So yeah, I often wonder is like the loss of 858 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.239 that is just showing you the progression of light coming 859 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.280 into the front of your eye basically into this world. Right, Yeah, 860 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:21.360 it's a little much, but. 861 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.519 Yeah, but it is interesting when you look back at 862 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.840 the ideas that you know, at a certain point we 863 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.039 couldn't see blue, at a certain point, we couldn't see pink. 864 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.039 Yeah, you're even changing fluids and everything. Yeah. 865 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.679 Well, and there's a woman in Florida that they found 866 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:39.840 I don't know if I brought this up before, but 867 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.280 she has extended rods and cones that they found, and 868 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.519 she can see something like an extra sixty something colors 869 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:47.719 that we can't see. 870 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.679 So, you know, if you look at a certain Egyptian headdresses, 871 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.480 they look just like I can't remember if it's the 872 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:55.800 cones of the rods, but they look just like what 873 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:57.760 cones are in the back of your ebble. 874 00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.440 Oh yeah, And I mean, you know, when you get 875 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.440 into the sigul of Lucifer in regard to how the 876 00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:10.280 eyeballs work and how right right, that's exactly, but that's 877 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.320 the whole thing, you know. It's like the evolving Are 878 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.639 we a continuously evolving form? 879 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:17.719 You know? 880 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.760 You go back into the ancient mysteries and they talk 881 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.400 about how we just came into birth full form, like 882 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.199 from the divine realm, you know, and then it took 883 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:32.039 however long in manifest creation before we fell into matter, 884 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.079 you know, or if you want to get into like 885 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.519 the Darwinian Huxley kind of idea of you know what, 886 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.400 why they had to fake the pilt down man and 887 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:46.519 why they still have the quote unquote missing link, like 888 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:51.880 they can't determine or establish a true, definitive point of 889 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.239 separation from primates to humans. But geneticists also say there 890 00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.480 are some points in there where it looks like genes 891 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.199 have been fused. So it's just interesting to think about 892 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.320 in regard to the creation mechanisms. 893 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.679 You know, I just I wanted to add to something 894 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.559 really and it's at leasta actually, and then you you 895 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:19.159 made me think of it again. But there was a 896 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:24.559 small documentary that I watched on the craziness of conception 897 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:30.280 and like how impossible it really is to even contemplate it. 898 00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.559 But they. 899 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.760 I guess somehow, maybe not inside a woman, but they 900 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.760 took a video of when the sperm actually fuses with 901 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:45.519 the egg. There's like it's like the big bang shit, 902 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.840 light light comes off of the thing, and it's kind 903 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:50.679 of like what you were saying is like do we 904 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:55.480 come from like a divine like an astral plane and 905 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.400 it just like explodes within and you know, it's. 906 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.280 Like where do you people actually come from? 907 00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:04.159 And infants actually can only see in black and white 908 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.039 for a while and then they develop colors over time, 909 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.119 So it's like, what like an infant or even like 910 00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:15.559 a fetus inside the womb is like where do we really? 911 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.000 Like the thought of it is crazy, like where do 912 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:20.519 we actually come from? 913 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:25.079 And the woman being able to actually, like a fractal unfunction, 914 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.599 manufacture life from itself in all species, not just humans. 915 00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:34.320 But I find it interesting that within the zygote, as 916 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.920 it develops within the womb of the human, that it 917 00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:44.000 basically takes on all these different class and phylum representations 918 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.280 of the life. That's existing on the planet as well. 919 00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:53.039 Yes, it's required. The explosion is required to trap energy 920 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.679 into matter, like if you were just harnessing energy into 921 00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:01.960 matter at the molecular level. It requires that amount of 922 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.159 burst of energy and it's about I think they said, 923 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:08.760 like sixty or six hundred thousand zinc ions that explode 924 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.800 at the same time and the actual lining of the 925 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.599 ovum in the zona pellucida that is where the chain 926 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:23.320 reaction happens, and it's a chemical, biochemical process. 927 00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.480 It's so funny because today I just saw a post 928 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:31.079 about for the first time, like recently, they were able 929 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:35.880 to make a human fetus out of just stem cells, right, 930 00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:40.199 so no egg and sperm, like literally just repurposed stem cells. 931 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.480 And it made me think of that clip, Julia, that 932 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:46.679 I think you're talking about when you know the zygote 933 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:50.000 I guess gets the egg gets fertilized or whatever, and 934 00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.519 then there's that huge spark of light, and I was like, well, 935 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.880 if you're just using stem cells, what'd that even happen? 936 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.039 And then like, what is this creation that you've made? 937 00:59:58.199 --> 00:59:59.719 Is there any soul in fuse? 938 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:00.239 Right? 939 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:02.159 When? 940 01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:07.760 Yeah, it's postulated that when that explosion of light happens 941 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:13.800 potentially that that is when the soul and to the spirit. 942 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.000 Like you said, materializes into matter, right, Like when is 943 01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:19.000 that happening? And I'm like, is that even a human 944 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:19.599 at that point? 945 01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.960 Like what is the right It's like it's like, I 946 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.760 don't know if you guys have ever watched the movie Splice, 947 01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.719 when you know she takes like her egg and puts 948 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.679 like weird chicken DNA with it and trying to make 949 01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.880 like hybrid beings and shit, it just makes you wonder. 950 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.239 It's it's that spark of light. 951 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:40.559 When you see it, and it's like an explosion, and 952 01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:44.480 it's almost like the God particle, right, you know, when 953 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.599 you are trying to fuse those two things together to 954 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:51.760 create and then this soul comes down into this vessel 955 01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:53.840 which is the mother, and then you grow it and 956 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:59.199 then it's a whole entire person. But I have also thought, 957 01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:01.840 and you know, I think most most of you know, 958 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.880 I kind of identify myself to be a Christian, but 959 01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:09.800 you know, not to say that I'm the only person 960 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.480 that can be right, because I'm open to entertaining all 961 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:18.159 kinds of you know, different theories and stuff. But doesn't 962 01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:20.159 it make you wonder if, like the soul of the 963 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.719 person that you grow inside you, it's like they've always 964 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.400 been with you, and then it's like they wait for 965 01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.519 like the right time and then they come down into 966 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:33.360 the physical, but like their spirit has always been with you. 967 01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:34.559 Well. 968 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.199 Within some of the Buddhist exte for it, it's the 969 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.000 idea that you have these souls around you, and you 970 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.519 do this eternal dance through time where you continue to 971 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.320 come back so you can experience and love one another. 972 01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:51.360 And if those souls so much love one another, that 973 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:55.840 there's a potential two souls can merge and become one impurity. 974 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:58.320 And also the idea that if one soul is so 975 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:02.199 strong that it can actually explode and fracture and create 976 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.639 multiple souls of itself. You know, it's it's, you know, 977 01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:10.079 quite beautiful in regard the energetic you know, precipitation and 978 01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.920 the possibilities of what life. And then when you get 979 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:17.360 into DNA itself, right when it twists up into its 980 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:24.159 finest form, it's generating photons on its own accordance, just 981 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:29.480 through the nature of how and I've postulated that the 982 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:33.800 photons generating through the DNA may be the bit rate 983 01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:38.920 at which we experience time that allows time to actually damn. 984 01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.519 That is intense photon. 985 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.400 That photon exists at a specific frequency that is the 986 01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:54.599 fingertip of the actual individual. It is specific and unique 987 01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.960 to that individual. And so when you look at the 988 01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.599 body itself and you look at d n A itself, 989 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.519 you look at the soul's frequency, they're all specific to 990 01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:08.800 each other. And it's like your meat suit has been 991 01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.519 outfitted to your soul's DNA. And to respond that. 992 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.079 Way, well, Lisa, how can you make that in a lab? 993 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.360 It's like that, you can't like that whatever they're doing, 994 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:22.559 and they're like, it's it's can't be the same. 995 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:23.039 It can't. 996 01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:27.719 They're they factored out the spiritual aspect of life and 997 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.760 they're just creating like weird biological vesta. 998 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:36.840 That's going to be the new, the new what is it? Discrimination? 999 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.440 The people that were born natural versus people that were 1000 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:41.760 not born natural? Right, that's where you're going to have 1001 01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.800 that divide. But to give credence to what we're saying, 1002 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.199 and just to kind of insert this, when you go 1003 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.400 for IVF, like if you want to in mutual fertilization, 1004 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:55.239 they obviously they harness both ammetes, right, when your ob 1005 01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:59.920 g y n is looking at intemonation under a microscope, 1006 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:04.039 it's looking for that flash of light under the microscope. 1007 01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:07.960 If there's embryos that do that produce a flash of light, 1008 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.000 those are you know, collected, and they are harvested, you know, 1009 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.199 for implantation later. The ones that are not are discarded. 1010 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.519 So if you're if you're paying upwards of thirty to 1011 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:21.559 fifty thousand dollars for your ogui n to look for 1012 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:25.239 that flash of light, that's I think that's a big deal. 1013 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.159 I think that's how can you not believe in God 1014 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.880 when you see something like that? It's just like, this 1015 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.519 is crazy to me. 1016 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.760 It's the most fun stuff to talk about for me. 1017 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:45.920 I mean, it's just you know, you know. So now, Pausanius, 1018 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.519 he tells us that adds his birth, like that of 1019 01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.199 many heroes, is said to have been miraculous. His mother, Nana, 1020 01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:57.639 was a virgin who conceived by putting a right almond 1021 01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.840 or pomegranate in her bosom. And and then my note 1022 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:06.039 is indeed, within the Phrygian culture and their cosmology, right 1023 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.440 the omen figured as the father of all things. So 1024 01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.039 this is the father and the mother and the offspring. 1025 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:16.880 This is the divine trinity that you see and all 1026 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.639 the Egyptian you know, gnomes of the twelve Gnomes that 1027 01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:24.760 transitions into the various mystery schools that we see coming 1028 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.840 forth in the mystery of Jesus Christ himself. 1029 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:28.320 You know. 1030 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.760 Yeah, you know, something I wanted to say earlier to Robbie. 1031 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.239 I just want to interject and I think, well, at 1032 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:38.960 least obviously would understand this. I think it's very much 1033 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.280 like in Petocles is a love and strife idea. If 1034 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.400 you go back and look at that and you kind 1035 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.360 of get an idea of what he's saying there, he's 1036 01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:50.519 very much almost explaining, like my opinion, birth. 1037 01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:56.360 Yeah, yeah, and that's you know, and I've theorized that, 1038 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.639 you know, within the Masonic orders, you have the compass 1039 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.199 being the draws of the circles, that is the divine heavens, 1040 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:08.960 that is, you know, more associated with the female. And 1041 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:12.960 then you have the square, which the draws angles more 1042 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:17.480 associated with the cube or the male. And basically you 1043 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.719 see that G that's in the center, right, You're basically 1044 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:24.440 taking the female and the male and bringing them together, 1045 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:29.519 and that is that G is generation, is the creation 1046 01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.679 of life. I think that is the most hidden sacred 1047 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.400 mystery of all the mysteries, which. 1048 01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:39.280 Isn't uh that that's like the the chalice in the 1049 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:46.440 blade coming together that thing. So you're just your thoughts 1050 01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:51.679 because this is so similar to like the Immaculate Conception, Robbie, 1051 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:53.920 your thoughts Was Jesus asexual? 1052 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:55.119 I mean is that why? 1053 01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:56.800 I mean? 1054 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:57.440 What? 1055 01:06:57.920 --> 01:06:57.960 Like? 1056 01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:58.519 What? What? 1057 01:06:58.679 --> 01:06:59.880 What are your thoughts on that? 1058 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.599 I mean, did he have children? You know, you read 1059 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:08.039 Holy What, Holy Blood, Holy Grail and they say that 1060 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:11.039 the offspring of the children of Mary Magdalen and Jesus 1061 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.400 became what the meryor of Vingian bloodline. There there is 1062 01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.719 some argument, but if you look back into how these 1063 01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:24.440 mystery schools function and the scenes being taken outside of 1064 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:29.639 and being very like what's the word I'm looking for, 1065 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:31.760 they basically rejected everything. 1066 01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:32.119 You know. 1067 01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:35.440 They were limiting their food, they were limiting their exposure 1068 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.599 to the corruption of the city. You know, they were 1069 01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:41.480 limiting their sex, they were limiting like you know, so 1070 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.360 you know, it's it's a good question, for sure, but 1071 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:49.920 but I could definitely see how, you know, Jesus could 1072 01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.000 have been a potentially asexual being. 1073 01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:55.039 I'm starting to lean that way. Sorry, go ahead, Jade, 1074 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:55.920 that's ocal. 1075 01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:57.679 I just wanted to jump in because I find this 1076 01:07:57.800 --> 01:07:59.719 to be a really interesting point. I think Robbie did 1077 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.960 a really great job fielding that. But I also think 1078 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:06.679 like as a Buddhist quote unquote, as a we don't 1079 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:09.559 believe in a fixed soul, but we do believe in 1080 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.400 the light. So like what Robbie, Lisa, and Nick are 1081 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:14.320 all talking about, like, yeah, we believe in that like 1082 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.159 the light of conception, but we would say that that's karma. 1083 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.119 So that's like your kind of connection to the people 1084 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.159 that you were born unto and then with. So rather 1085 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:27.479 than your soul has like it's it's not really a soul. 1086 01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:29.640 It's more of a spirit or like a fix. It's 1087 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.680 not fixed, right, you can change, you a free will. 1088 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.479 You can. You're malleable in the world. You're just like 1089 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.159 your body can change as a like I'm sure Lisa knows, 1090 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.239 is like a stress. I mean, Lisa definitely knows, but 1091 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:44.000 as like a stress recept you know, you changed depending 1092 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.119 on your inputs, your food, your environment, all of that. 1093 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.159 So the reality is is like we change, but yes, 1094 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.640 we immediately are born with like the karma connection to 1095 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:59.920 each other and recognizing that is that's what Buddhism really is. 1096 01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:02.600 It's like that's the whole point is like to recognize, Yeah, 1097 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:05.600 everything I do has a karma implication and can impact 1098 01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.159 not only myself but the people around me, and not 1099 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:11.279 only in material ways, but in metaphysical ways. 1100 01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.520 The soul family, right right, Yeah. 1101 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:18.720 Yeah, we can use it. I mean, I'm fine to 1102 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:21.319 use the word soul. I just I personally don't believe 1103 01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:24.319 in a fixed soul, So you can interpret that however 1104 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.319 you want. Like we're we we really reject that eternalist 1105 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.159 idea of like the soul carries with you through time, 1106 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:35.760 it's sort of dissipated in time. That's the market. 1107 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:38.359 Probably we could all like look back on our life 1108 01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:40.760 and have these points where like if you've met somebody, 1109 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.319 I'm not even talking like romantically or whatever, but like 1110 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.199 there's just people. Sometimes in that moment when you meet 1111 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.199 them or see them, there's like a weird like recognition 1112 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.359 or like a certain feeling. I also had that with 1113 01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:55.920 both my children, like when they were born or even 1114 01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.279 when like I was pregnant with them, Like there were 1115 01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.840 certain things about them that it's like I knew was 1116 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.800 going to be, this is who you are. 1117 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:05.560 And then when I held them, I was like, oh, 1118 01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:10.239 it's you, like an old familiarity, like you knew them 1119 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:11.560 all right, they knew that. 1120 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.399 That's why I mentioned like it's you. It makes you 1121 01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.079 wonder if they've not always been with you. I don't 1122 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.560 know if it's like with you, but maybe more like 1123 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:23.079 like a nat sole family or that. 1124 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:24.800 They come down to be with you. 1125 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.640 Yeah right right, yeah right yeah. 1126 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:28.479 Yeah. 1127 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:32.039 Also, just let me just say this really quick about 1128 01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:33.880 the Jesus, because you brought up a really great point 1129 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:37.920 about Jesus being asexual. So this is a question that 1130 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.560 Tantra actually deals with rather well. Is that and Lisa 1131 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.199 and I were talking about a little in the chat. 1132 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:46.800 There are different versions of preferences of how to climb 1133 01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:48.239 the tree, if you want to call it like that, 1134 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.239 if you want to articulate it like that. So being 1135 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:56.880 having a bachelor deity or bachelor god, that is desirable, 1136 01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:01.399 as Robbie was saying, for people who are into radical shromana. 1137 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:06.159 So shramana just means radical asceticism. So it's like giving 1138 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:11.279 up all the materialities. So if your view is shramanic, I'll. 1139 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.000 Say, right, meticism as that's the word I was thinking 1140 01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:15.800 of her meticism. 1141 01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:19.840 Good. Yeah, but you're going to give up everything now, 1142 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.880 if your path is radically transgressive, then you're going to 1143 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.960 embrace the pleasures of the flesh. So it really depends 1144 01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:31.640 on how you want, like how your cosmology is, how 1145 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.479 the system is that you get to where you want 1146 01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.000 to go, so right, and like, so this is a 1147 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.960 this is the I guess the Kaibel figure of Tantra. 1148 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.680 Her name is Zaka Jatti, which means the one braid. 1149 01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:49.600 And you can see she only has one breast, one eye, 1150 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.239 one thing. And to bring up Nick's point about the 1151 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.039 eye falling out, if you look at her, I guess 1152 01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:59.800 that's her left hand. She's holding a heart, a severed 1153 01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.439 and there's like a little string and so that it 1154 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.319 does look kind of like an eyeball. I didn't choose 1155 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:08.520 the best image to show that. I chose a more 1156 01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.880 cool image. But you can see, like she's blind. She 1157 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.680 only has the one eye, so it's only subtle because 1158 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.479 when she has her physical eyes, she craves and she desires. 1159 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.319 So the whole idea is that when she becomes blind, 1160 01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:25.079 she only has her subtle or her third eye. Right, 1161 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.560 So she only can perceive the spiritual, so she realizes 1162 01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:31.399 in her karma, oh, this is my cosmic function is 1163 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:35.720 not to destroy the world, but to destroy perception. So 1164 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:39.000 it has like a much more consciousness layer. It's not 1165 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:41.199 like as we were talking about this whole time. It's 1166 01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.760 very much about consciousness rather than Yeah, it can be literal, 1167 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.119 it can be real, it can be also a metaphor, 1168 01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:49.760 it can be also angels, whatever. But really it's about 1169 01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:52.359 you and your consciousness and your body because I think, 1170 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:54.720 like Lisa and Nick make a great argument, it's about 1171 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:55.600 your eye and your womb. 1172 01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:03.279 Yeah, all right, Now, when we trace the name Addis 1173 01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:07.039 back from athus a t u s to eights ates 1174 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:13.399 all find a common meaning in the Caucaus region, relating 1175 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:19.319 to the month or the moon right, and it is 1176 01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:24.600 also held that ideas came from the day that the 1177 01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:29.960 full moon is visible as the etruscans related to the 1178 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:37.600 moon as itus or itis, relating to lunar time, and 1179 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:45.039 corresponds to the Samerian word itu, which relates to illumination 1180 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:50.079 of the moon. This word itu has been in Kaldea 1181 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:57.399 and in the Acamedean inscriptions used in the exact same 1182 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.960 manner in regard to the illumination or light, not the 1183 01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:05.560 moon itself, but the light of the moon. Right, and 1184 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.319 it's believed to have been perceived as a divine being 1185 01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:14.199 in relation to the cycles of the natural world from 1186 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:20.560 these names found in Asia Minor being eight Aethus as 1187 01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.840 well as Attis, suggesting this to be the true origin 1188 01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:30.039 of the nature of Attis. The moon god a Men 1189 01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:34.840 or many of Asia Minor has long been recognized for 1190 01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.840 his similarities with Attis. Men is young like Attis, both 1191 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:44.319 dress identically, both wear the Phrygian cap of Attis, while 1192 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:49.800 also both using common attributes of the poppy, the pomegranate, 1193 01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:53.439 and the pine cone. So, you know, we can just 1194 01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:59.560 see that this is something that is spreading culturally because 1195 01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:03.880 of this ascended idea of this virgin birth and this 1196 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:09.399 means of you know, transitioning into higher forms of reality. Right, 1197 01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.880 both Addis and Man are seen with the crescent moon 1198 01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:19.760 above their heads. This godmin Uh, these god men through 1199 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:25.800 their symbols, is a blossoming. Is a blossom blossoming, nourish 1200 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:32.119 and nourished by ancient roots growing outward from Addis. Yeah, 1201 01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:35.880 I could just keep going on and on about you know, 1202 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.000 this is basically the notes I was writing for for 1203 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:42.880 the Nimrod book, because Nimrod directly ties in with this 1204 01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:45.760 as far as one of the cut up gods. 1205 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:46.520 You know. 1206 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:50.600 You know something again, you mentioned the crescent moon, and uh, 1207 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.159 I was gonna say it earlier, but I just forgot, uh. 1208 01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:58.399 You know, when we're talking about like I guess, you know, 1209 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:03.279 conception and everything. I've often thought and I think somebody 1210 01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:05.039 might have actually said it to me. May that'd be 1211 01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:07.439 original idea. So I just want to put that out 1212 01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:11.520 there the way I explain that my experience with crossing 1213 01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:14.199 the Abyss at the end, it is very much almost 1214 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.680 like kind of going out the same way it came in. 1215 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:19.920 I will see that eclipse and eventually turn into a 1216 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.439 crescent moon, and the black part blacks Fiel, will get 1217 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.079 pulled away from the white one. The poles will separate, 1218 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.439 and then it's an explosion of light and I'm gone. 1219 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:31.239 So it's like, you know, there's an explosion of light 1220 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.199 coming into the physical sense. And then when I separate, 1221 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:36.199 when I believe I separate the soul from the body, 1222 01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:40.439 there's an explosion of light going out, you know, and 1223 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:43.039 we'll see a crescent moon in my visual at some 1224 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.840 point when it starts to slowly pull apart, it looks 1225 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:48.840 like a crescent moon apart. And then yeah, and you. 1226 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:52.600 See that crescent moon in these moon these male moon 1227 01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:58.359 deities going back into man or Manny coming into Attis. 1228 01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:03.159 But you also see that at crescent moon in numerous 1229 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:07.199 places of these numerous different god forms all over the earth. 1230 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.680 Tod who's associated with the hemaphrodite. 1231 01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:16.520 Yep, And that crescent is the the beak of the 1232 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:21.880 of the ibis in regard to thought, and it was 1233 01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:25.600 considered also as a writing nib in regard to prophecy. 1234 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.359 So yeah, yeah, I. 1235 01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:32.319 Only associated the moon with being like a feminine energy 1236 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:38.199 that oh yeah, well, so thought right within Egyptian mythology 1237 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.199 rode in the moon, and the moon. 1238 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.520 Was isis basically right. But thought was represented as the 1239 01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:47.640 dark side of the moon, you know, like pink Floyd, 1240 01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.880 which is basically considered to be the hidden wisdom of 1241 01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:56.159 the divine feminine. So there is a direct correlation with 1242 01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:57.720 the feminine for sure. 1243 01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:01.000 You know, I was going to say, because controls your 1244 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:04.680 it's supposed to if you're living right, it's supposed to 1245 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:07.800 control your menstrual cycle. 1246 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.800 Right, and the tides coming and going of the tides, 1247 01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:15.359 you know. I think it goes deep when you get 1248 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:21.279 into the moon and the basically creating the structure for 1249 01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.399 life on the planet in regard to you know, the 1250 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:28.439 movement and not letting everything on Earth lay stagnant. 1251 01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:32.560 Poulation can sometimes be connected to the moon too. Sorry 1252 01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:36.359 you guys, go No, just usually in full moons, that's 1253 01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:36.760 when you do. 1254 01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:39.760 I don't know about female, but I do know living 1255 01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:42.920 on a rancher farm or whatever you do have, if 1256 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:48.000 you have animals that are about to drop, it never 1257 01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:51.159 fails on a full moon. They they'll all end up 1258 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:52.119 dropping at the same time. 1259 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:57.399 And within the agricultural ideas of the moon, right, you 1260 01:18:57.439 --> 01:19:00.439 would plant on a new moon when there's no moon, 1261 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:03.359 because what's going to happen is as the moon is 1262 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:06.640 building an energy and becoming more and more full, it's 1263 01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:09.520 actually working on those plants to pull. 1264 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:10.600 Them out of the ground. 1265 01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.359 So it in regard to the growth of you know, 1266 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.520 life itself in the plant form. So yeah, the moon 1267 01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:20.079 is yeah, what's that? 1268 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:20.680 No? 1269 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.359 I always thought that like at night when you're observing 1270 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:25.800 like you know, your plants or whatever, like they look 1271 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:29.239 so alive that night. Yeah, yeah, I'm like they're growing, 1272 01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.279 I swear to God, and like always children, you know, 1273 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:33.640 when they wake up the next morning like you grew last. 1274 01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:38.279 Night, right, it's like yeah, shp overnight. And that's Traditionally 1275 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:41.640 you receive the energy from the sun, that is the 1276 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:45.479 vivifying and programming energy, and then when you go into 1277 01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.600 that state of sweep or comatose where the moon works 1278 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.920 its energies on you, that's when you're healing, you're growing, 1279 01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:58.399 You're doing all the necessary things that you know, encourage 1280 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.720 health within the and decomposition on the opposite as well. 1281 01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:07.239 I don't think that we know anything about what the 1282 01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:10.840 moon really is because it's like if you stand in 1283 01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:15.520 the shade at night versus the moonlight, the shade is 1284 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:19.560 cooler than the moonlight, So there is like something radiating 1285 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:24.640 off of the bitch, and it's growing. It's like you said, 1286 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:28.680 things grow in the moonlight, your your ovulation, your minstrel. 1287 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.800 There's there is an energy force around the moon. Like, 1288 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.119 I'm so sick and tired of people being like, oh, 1289 01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:37.319 it's a used car that aliens used to get here 1290 01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:40.119 and then they just abandoned it and it's like, no way, dude, 1291 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:41.640 I can't get on board with that. 1292 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:47.279 You know, it's interesting ahead even cabalistically when you look 1293 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:49.680 where the moon is, it's even something that projects light 1294 01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:52.760 out of it, and it's even called amateur creator. But 1295 01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:57.119 something I wanted to say before forgotten finally remembered, uh 1296 01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:02.039 something maybe Julia, why you might be misunderstood. And I 1297 01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.680 think it's a huge issue amongst you know, even the 1298 01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:09.600 occult and conspiracy or just in general, that something that's 1299 01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:11.479 not noticed to look at when you want to look 1300 01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:13.680 at these planets or even spheres on like ca abolatry, 1301 01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:15.600 there's always going to be a male and a female 1302 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:18.640 idea to it. And I don't think that's widely known. 1303 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:20.840 It's just always thinking that this is always going to 1304 01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:23.199 be male, and that's always going to be female. There's 1305 01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:26.560 always something with it. Like even with the moon Crowley 1306 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.520 at one point I think thought he was a reincarnation 1307 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:32.960 of of constant constant or I can't say it, pronounce 1308 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.600 it perfectly right now, that was a male deity of 1309 01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:38.239 the moon. Most people didn't you know that, you know, 1310 01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.159 like I think, if you want to take a good 1311 01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:44.079 idea of how to even explain maybe like this could 1312 01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:48.079 be correct. It's a theory of mine of like the 1313 01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:53.359 male and female aspect. The moon itself would the structure 1314 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.039 of it would be the female, and then that light 1315 01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:57.039 you're talking about reflecting off of it or coming out 1316 01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:58.640 of it would be the male aspect. 1317 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.760 I think it's awesome that those energies are balanced. I 1318 01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:10.279 just don't think it's talked about much. That's all right, right, Yeah, 1319 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.640 we're super profound. Sorry, Robie, I just want to say that. Yeah, 1320 01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.079 Nick was right on with that. That's even a ton 1321 01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:20.239 tric understanding. You look at any tontric iconography, there's always 1322 01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:24.199 a female or a male deity implied, always, even if 1323 01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:27.319 they're solo. We call the Ekavira a solitary hero form. 1324 01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:30.520 But even if they're like that, there's always little subtle 1325 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:34.479 implications that theikini or the concert is in the image 1326 01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:34.960 with them. 1327 01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:37.680 And that's even a couplistic idea. It's not just tontric 1328 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:40.159 because it's really their breath. It's really the breath of 1329 01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:45.039 art that's really the chop. So they're always there. So 1330 01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:47.520 I agree with Nick, it's like the moon. Yeah, and 1331 01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.920 you're right, Gulia, it has a feminine there's a feminine 1332 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.359 element to the moon, but there's also a masculine element 1333 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:56.159 because Nick and I have talked about this idea with 1334 01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.720 like Toad into Hoodie before, there's an idea that the time. 1335 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:05.319 So this has been a so three but can only 1336 01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:09.640 express into the world in eight, so in Hode. But 1337 01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:12.319 then he can really only express in nine because there's 1338 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.520 actually plus one. There's time, right, So it's the eight 1339 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.800 cycles plus one. So that's why he appears, which is ysode, 1340 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:23.600 which is nine. So you can see it's like the 1341 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.399 mercurial force. The masculine energy has to travel over to 1342 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:31.479 the Moon to actually take form. It cannot just take 1343 01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:35.039 form in Ode. It has to come into formation onto 1344 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.520 the foundation. That's an interesting way. I just thought with 1345 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:39.760 Nix I was super profound and just wanted to rough 1346 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:40.039 off that. 1347 01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:40.680 Sorry about that. 1348 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.399 Even another way, I want to even try to show that. 1349 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.760 And I didn't know this until the guy from a 1350 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.359 Library of the Untold came on. I listened to one 1351 01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:54.399 of his things. Uh, just again with this, Julie was 1352 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.399 saying the moon with birth, you know, you know, with 1353 01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:59.880 that whole aspect, if you were to be taken out 1354 01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:01.239 of the Sun and put into a cave for like 1355 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:04.159 a month or two, you're not going to drop any eggs. Yeah, 1356 01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:08.880 so you need the sun to even you need both, right, right. 1357 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.359 Yeah, absolutely, Well it's like yin and yang, right, Like 1358 01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:14.520 there's a bit a piece of each in both, right, 1359 01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:17.279 Like it's never exclusive. 1360 01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:20.000 Complimentaries, not polarities. 1361 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:22.560 Yeah, and like I don't know if that has to 1362 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:24.439 do with this, the skin obsorbing the sun, but your 1363 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:25.880 eyes are going to be taking that in as well. 1364 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:30.439 Yeah, there is a there's a theory that if you 1365 01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:33.399 gaze upon the moon, especially a full moon, that it 1366 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:37.359 charges your pinial gland, especially at midnight, like it makes 1367 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.600 it ready to receive all of the light the next day. 1368 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:43.880 And the other thing that I wanted to say, Tyrannian purple, 1369 01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:48.359 the purple that was coveted by the royals, can only 1370 01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:53.079 be produced by sea snails when you expose their their 1371 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:58.920 their secretions to moonlight. And that I mean immediately you 1372 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:01.079 see it and it's clear, right, it doesn't look like 1373 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:06.039 at all, but then leave it in the moon the 1374 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.359 next day, it's it's purple. 1375 01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:15.319 More than a fosphorescent seaweed or whatever like that can 1376 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:17.600 make the water look like it's glowing. 1377 01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.399 And in the light. Yeah, man, there's guys do it. 1378 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:23.319 The moon is the photo developer. 1379 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:31.399 You know something I want to I want to toss 1380 01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:33.840 in here too, And Lisa just reminded me of it, 1381 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.520 and I swear one day we'll actually cover it in 1382 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.560 Trolley's libresh or his rush thing. You're praying to the 1383 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.359 sun at four different times of the day, and if 1384 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:45.279 you start looking at it correctly, I think that you 1385 01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.640 are seeing yourself actually priming or per neeal gland for 1386 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:51.840 the way that you're supposed to to actually get like 1387 01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:56.199 a full potential out of it. So I think, like 1388 01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:58.359 what she was even saying, I think you even see 1389 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:04.640 that in ritualistic work. Oh oh and real quick, sorry sorry, 1390 01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.720 what I also wanted to add real quick And another 1391 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:08.920 reason why I again I thought I had something to do. 1392 01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:11.720 I totally lost it. Sorry. Is again, even in that 1393 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.119 description when you're talking about it, you are in up 1394 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:17.439 barge and Toth is at the wheel. So again you 1395 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.279 have another crescent shape and you have it associated with 1396 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.960 Toth right right right. 1397 01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:26.840 Well, even like going like in the sun four times 1398 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.640 a day to do like your ritualistic work, it gets 1399 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.800 your eyeball exposed to the sun at four different times, 1400 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:37.239 which is supposed to regulate your circadian rhythm and put 1401 01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:39.600 all your hormones in a cascade in which they're supposed 1402 01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:43.359 to function ideally and prepare you for sleep, which produces 1403 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.359 melatonin and allows all the growth and all the good 1404 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:45.960 things to happen. 1405 01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:46.239 Right. 1406 01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:51.000 Interesting, Sorry, Julia, you were going to say, okay, oh, 1407 01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:53.279 I was just gonna say. I didn't know. I don't 1408 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.880 know if Robbie was expecting the conversation to go this way. 1409 01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:03.760 God damn, I mean about literally every aspect of life today. 1410 01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:04.720 This is amazing. 1411 01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:09.880 It's you know, like to dig into these topics, you know, 1412 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:13.560 especially when people know what they're talking about as far 1413 01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:17.520 as you know, you know. So now we got into 1414 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:20.439 the details of the evergreen tree in regard to it 1415 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:24.560 being symbolic of everlasting life in spite of the death 1416 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:29.520 of the winner, and and oh here it is right here. 1417 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:35.479 We also see in the ancient character of Sylvanus, who 1418 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:38.520 they set up the Sylvian schools after. You see him 1419 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.680 all over New England as far as Sylvian learning, right, 1420 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:47.159 But he was the woodland deity of the Saturnian Golden 1421 01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:50.479 Age that was called the god of the Pine wood. 1422 01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:56.000 Very similar and related to Addis, right, and basically within 1423 01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:00.239 the cult of Addis, they would have these say crew 1424 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.079 tree bears, because the symbol of Attis was represented by 1425 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:09.760 this tall standing pine tree fir tree, you know, depending 1426 01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:12.640 on where you move within these these different mystery schools. 1427 01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:12.880 Right. 1428 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:16.880 And so it was on the day, the twenty second 1429 01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:21.520 day of March being three two two right, that a 1430 01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:26.399 pine tree was cut and brought into the sanctuary of Kibili, 1431 01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:31.600 where it was treated as a great divine entity. The 1432 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:35.840 duty of carrying the tree was entrusted to a guild 1433 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.720 of tree bearers. And then we have these Zimmermen in 1434 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.319 Germany which built the cathedrals of Germany, that were called 1435 01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:46.640 the Zimmerman, which were the tree bears as well. So 1436 01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:50.600 just kind of tying that in right. And then also 1437 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:55.159 at the same time, because we have Prigia tied in 1438 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.680 with ancient Greece right in the year three two two BC, 1439 01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:04.279 there is an ancient and eternal brotherhood of death that 1440 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:09.920 was formed in ancient Greece that descended from ancient Grecian 1441 01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:16.119 society dating back to Demosthenes. And then if we look 1442 01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:20.000 at the order of the skullen bones, right, their records. 1443 01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:22.399 The way that they keep the records within the skull 1444 01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:26.359 and bones, they always add three hundred and twenty two 1445 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:30.079 years to whatever the current date is, So I e. 1446 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:36.199 In nineteen fifty they would record it as Anto Demosthene 1447 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:42.439 twenty two seventy two. So you know, another cult or 1448 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:45.920 secret society here that we're seeing that's playing with the 1449 01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:50.920 cylindrical cycle, you know. But I think definitely ties back 1450 01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:56.119 to this ancient function and who was it. James G. 1451 01:29:56.319 --> 01:29:59.800 Fraser in his work he talks about they would basically 1452 01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:03.600 hollow this tree out and they would make an effigy 1453 01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:07.760 of Addis and put it in the tree like Christ 1454 01:30:07.880 --> 01:30:12.319 in the Sarcophaga or in the Coffin or Lazarus and 1455 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.920 the Sarcophagus, you know, and basically after three days they 1456 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:20.960 would resurrect the god and then burn him. And James G. 1457 01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.680 Fraser said, not only did they do that with Addis, 1458 01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:27.960 but in Egypt they'd had a very similar ritual where 1459 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.720 they would hollow out a tree and put the put 1460 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:34.359 you know, Osyrus in and resurrect him up his horse. 1461 01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.239 So you know, we can see the ties between all 1462 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:38.319 these different cultures. 1463 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:40.960 Quick question. 1464 01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:45.720 Yeah, I don't want to open up a whole entire 1465 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:52.279 new casserole of things. But you ever think about like 1466 01:30:52.399 --> 01:30:55.520 Santo Spinacci, and like he says, all this stuff is 1467 01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:59.800 the same story, just repeated over in different like even 1468 01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:02.279 the christ story. And I hate to say that because 1469 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.239 I am a Christian, but sometimes I listen to his 1470 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.479 stuff and I'm like, God, damn, he's got a point. 1471 01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.760 Listen. I will say some of his old stuff. You'll 1472 01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:15.159 even I didn't know he was into it, even though 1473 01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:17.359 I listened to him in the past. Some people had 1474 01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:19.199 sent it to me after I did the Eyeball series. 1475 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:21.880 He has said some shit that I've even said on 1476 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:24.439 this show. Just for some reason, people don't remember that stuff. 1477 01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:27.680 He has actually some shit that I think is extremely deep, 1478 01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.479 and I think he understands what magic is. Maybe he's 1479 01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:32.760 blown out from fucking with it too much now, but 1480 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:35.520 that man was also something at some point the. 1481 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:38.800 Very beginnings of his YouTube channel, Like if you go 1482 01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.399 back and you watch like the first couple videos, it'll 1483 01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:44.199 make you think about stuff in a completely different way, 1484 01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.399 kind of like what Robbie is saying today. Like this 1485 01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:51.439 story that repeats itself throughout cultures, throughout time, through with 1486 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.880 the same, like main character that does the same thing, 1487 01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:59.319 and it aligns with the planetary system and like the zodiac, 1488 01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:00.239 and it's it's all. 1489 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.680 I don't know, I don't know, just it just made 1490 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:04.800 me think of that for sure, for sure. 1491 01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:10.279 So now within the temple of Addis, right, the drinking 1492 01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:13.760 of wine was not allowed at all, And there was 1493 01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.840 a legend that when Addis roamed the woods with just 1494 01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:22.840 Agnetus being Mother Kibli, who deeply loved the beautiful Addis 1495 01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:28.439 even though not naturally adequate, while under the influence of wine, 1496 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:32.399 Addis confessed his love for the castrated Andrew John, in 1497 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:36.439 which there is some thought about this cult being against 1498 01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:40.039 the ideas of sexual pleasure, which we talked about in 1499 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:45.520 purifying themselves in such a demonstrably bloody manner in regard 1500 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:51.319 to removing their generative organs right, and in this ritual 1501 01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:56.479 it was also implied a sacred marriage of the initiative 1502 01:32:56.600 --> 01:33:00.159 to the Goddess herself in the form of what they 1503 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:06.680 call the high ris gamos, which is basically the divine 1504 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:10.159 marriage of you know, the God and the goddess, or 1505 01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:12.920 the Goddess and the mortal, or depends on. But there's 1506 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:18.000 this this essential idea of this bridal chamber. Right, and 1507 01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:24.680 this was a high level initiatory right in ancient schools 1508 01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:30.159 called the hirogami of the mysteries, in that there was 1509 01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:34.399 a holy marriage between Addis and the goddess Mother Kibili, 1510 01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:38.640 just as Jesus is referred to the bridegroom in multiple 1511 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:42.199 passages of the Bible, as in John four four through 1512 01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:46.399 forty two, where Jesus is depicted as the bridegroom Messiah 1513 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:53.960 who offers eternal life, right and where I have appeared. Yeah, 1514 01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:58.119 and in this sacred marriage. Once the sacred marriage precipitated, 1515 01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:03.199 the initiate would become a priest or a priestess of 1516 01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:09.640 the Goddess, potentially a high level tantric cleric devoted to 1517 01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:15.720 the Mother, and the initiate of the cult participated in 1518 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:21.720 purification processes, trials and degrees of elevation, fasting, and eventually 1519 01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:26.359 the divine marriage and the bridegroom chamber becoming a supplicant 1520 01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:31.800 servant of the divine virgin Goddess. Clement of Alexandria, who 1521 01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:36.680 was initiated into the cult before his Christian conversion, relates 1522 01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:41.720 that when being indoctrinated into the Phrygian rites. He was 1523 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.840 schooled to say, I have eaten from the tambourine, I 1524 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:50.359 have drunk from the sybil, I have carried the keernos, 1525 01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:56.640 I have stolen into the bridal chamber. And it basically 1526 01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:04.159 just relates to the aspects of this sacred hieroscamos considered 1527 01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:08.119 by the Pythagoreans to be represented by the number five 1528 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:13.239 being halfway, as the marriage is halfway between Earth and 1529 01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:17.199 the heavens, being the merging of spirit and matter. 1530 01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:23.960 Damn right, that's a mind. 1531 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:27.119 That's an excellent gives. 1532 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:32.159 Which kind of gives a nod to the Pythagoreans obsession 1533 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:33.000 with the number. 1534 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:37.520 Ten, right, the one and the zero, the void and 1535 01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:42.039 the generative factor, the reproductive again back to the sacred 1536 01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:43.880 mystic idea of generation. 1537 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.239 And if five being that middle point. 1538 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:54.359 Yeah, between heaven and Earth. Yeah yeah, definitely, definitely sooner. 1539 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:57.279 I feel like I need to be smarter to understand 1540 01:35:57.399 --> 01:35:58.319 this stuff. 1541 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:01.399 Especially old and then you have to die. 1542 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:03.640 Yeah, it's like. 1543 01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:06.560 I got this over again. 1544 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.800 Even some of the stuff that Nick talks about with 1545 01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.000 like becoming a magician or like what it is to 1546 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.800 be a part of like this this mystery type of 1547 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.560 religion stuff. I can't under fucking stand some of it. 1548 01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:22.600 Like I'm like, maybe I'm just stupid. 1549 01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:27.399 I don't know. No, you I jumped into the middle 1550 01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:28.439 of stuff. That's why. 1551 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.399 Beginning when you're investigating the stuff, you don't understand any 1552 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:35.720 of it. But the more you're exposed to it, the 1553 01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.880 more you begin to like see the cross references and 1554 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.680 how the dots connect, and the picture gets bigger and bigger. 1555 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:46.880 It's a gradual learning process. It takes years and years 1556 01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:48.399 and years to go through. 1557 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:48.840 You know. 1558 01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:52.760 Then you just realize you know nothing and you're like, okay, 1559 01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:56.199 right down again. 1560 01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:57.079 Yeah. 1561 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:59.319 Yeah, But that's what I was gonna say. Even where 1562 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:02.600 I'm at now, after all these years of study, I'm 1563 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.880 constantly coming into certain concepts and ideas where I'm like, 1564 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:09.840 I have no idea what this means. And so you know, 1565 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.000 you delve into it. You kind of you know, wash 1566 01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:15.760 yourself in it and kind of try to understand what 1567 01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:16.119 it is. 1568 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:22.920 So that it's so vast and so beautiful. It's amazing tapestry. 1569 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:25.520 And I think sometimes those humans were like, we're on 1570 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:28.800 looking at the tapestry like too close, because because we 1571 01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:31.960 have such a small perspective, right, But it's like God 1572 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:36.000 has the wide view and he's like, don't worry, it's okay. 1573 01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:39.239 You know, it's gonna all work out or whatever your 1574 01:37:39.319 --> 01:37:41.319 viewpoint is. That's why it all looks different. 1575 01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:46.600 Literally, there's a song about that, and uh, you probably 1576 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.680 watched the Teresa, Prince of Egypt when he goes and 1577 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:54.399 he he meets his wife in the desert, the Ethiopian 1578 01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.039 lady and her dad is like, you know, everything is 1579 01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:02.119 a tapestry and all the colors make up the entire picture. 1580 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:03.640 That's that's how I feel. 1581 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:06.720 Even like with podcasting and meeting like people like Jen 1582 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:10.399 and Nick and Robbie, it's like their perspective is so 1583 01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:14.039 different than mine that it opens me up to like 1584 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:19.199 all a ton of different possibilities of what's what reality 1585 01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:19.720 really is? 1586 01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:23.000 You know it is, yeah, and the mindscape is infinite, 1587 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.880 you know. So it's the finite versus the infinite all 1588 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:28.479 within us. 1589 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:29.279 You know. 1590 01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:34.039 So now it was after this sacred marriage and the 1591 01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:37.600 castration would happen. If you get into the Roman stories, 1592 01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.560 you know, basically it was called the day of Blood. 1593 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:43.199 It was one of the festival seasons that they would 1594 01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:46.000 have and on the day of blood. They would work 1595 01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:48.960 up to it and they would castrate themselves in a frenzy. 1596 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:51.640 They you know, doing these dances and they have these 1597 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:55.439 swords and they're cutting themselves. Blood's going everywhere. And at 1598 01:38:55.479 --> 01:38:58.640 the height of that day of blood was when they 1599 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:05.119 would separate themselves from their generative force basically, and they 1600 01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:07.960 would throw it through a window as they were running 1601 01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.720 through the streets, and whoever's window it went in had 1602 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.720 to basically get women's clothes and make up and all 1603 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:19.039 the stuff for first aid and go out and like 1604 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:22.359 take care of them and put the divine feminine sacred 1605 01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:25.640 garments on them and put makeup on them, and then 1606 01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:29.760 they would become risen as a high priest of Mother Kibli. 1607 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:30.119 Right. 1608 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:35.880 So, and then it was at an unspecified time in 1609 01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:41.359 the ancient Notes of Scalia that discussed the chambers of 1610 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:48.159 Lobring as being sacred subterranean places where the worshipers of 1611 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:53.600 Attis and Rhea had in uh had Oh, who had 1612 01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:58.840 emasculated themselves, used to come to deposit their genitals. Right 1613 01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:08.199 mar Chius Mincius Felix in his Octavius relates that these 1614 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:13.880 broken instruments of fertility were afterward reverently wrapped up and 1615 01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:18.239 buried in the earth in subterranean chambers sacred to Kibili. 1616 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.720 And then this goes back to James G. Frasier that 1617 01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:27.079 postulates that we may conjecture that in the olden days, 1618 01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:30.640 the priests who bore the name and played the part 1619 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:35.079 of Attis at the spring festival of Kibili was regularly 1620 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:40.159 hanged or otherwise slain upon the sacred tree, just as Balder, 1621 01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:41.840 the Beautiful and the making. 1622 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:47.159 What this is something else that's repeated throughout multiple you know, 1623 01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:54.319 getting into Kennedy and you know what happened to. 1624 01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.399 Not to be graphic, but what happened to the Genitalia. 1625 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:02.760 Yeah, they would they would go to this place called 1626 01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:09.039 the Lobraine and basically they would take these uh, these 1627 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:12.600 units as they were wrapped up, and then they probably 1628 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.039 cleaned them and wrap them and then they would bury 1629 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.760 them in the earth. And I would imagine it has 1630 01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:21.640 something to do with fertility, you know. I know at 1631 01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.319 the Tower of London when they would castraight people, they 1632 01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.800 would actually throw their members into the courtyard for the 1633 01:41:29.079 --> 01:41:30.039 ravens to devour. 1634 01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:34.039 Oh my god, I guess circumcisions sounds so bad. 1635 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:34.720 Compared to that. 1636 01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:38.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, at least you still have some 1637 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:39.840 of it left. 1638 01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:47.800 I can't. 1639 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:50.479 I can see its. 1640 01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:54.199 Imagine that, like, yeah, they take one wolf and it 1641 01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:55.960 falls out of its beak and hit somebody on the head. 1642 01:41:57.399 --> 01:41:57.600 God. 1643 01:41:58.439 --> 01:42:00.720 So but now, what we have to under stand within 1644 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:06.000 this whole process, right, that this process was generally seen 1645 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:11.680 as being a voluntary process entering willingly for the transmutation 1646 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:16.079 in a secret manner of ascension. This harvesting of the 1647 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:18.880 green corn is what they call this in some of 1648 01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:22.920 the text, shot the mind into a death or a 1649 01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:29.119 near deathlike experience. Right, and let's see creating a sense 1650 01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:35.760 of transformation, salvation and illumination of a divine madness of sorts, 1651 01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:41.079 which Plato gets into extensively, but sot to guard. He 1652 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:47.479 believed that the unique priests put themselves in a permanent limity, 1653 01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:54.079 irreversibly placing themselves outside of ordinary human nature, being neither 1654 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:57.199 gods nor men, but something in between. 1655 01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:04.199 So wow, okay, I have I have a question, and 1656 01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:09.159 Jen you're branding to correct me. So this, this belief system, 1657 01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:15.239 this practice originated Mediterranean esque, Right, I was worn original? 1658 01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:18.279 Good? 1659 01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:20.479 It didn't corn originate in the Americas. 1660 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:24.439 So that's what is said. But in my own personal 1661 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:27.960 experience with and maybe I think maybe you have had 1662 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:31.039 this experience too, some of the things that they say 1663 01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:35.239 are indigenous plants that they actually have a much more 1664 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:39.960 universal distribution, because a really great example of this is 1665 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:43.479 actually detera. They used to say, oh, detera in no 1666 01:43:43.479 --> 01:43:47.279 Oxia is the only American variety, but actually we have 1667 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:50.039 all three kinds that appear in the Americas and have 1668 01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:55.000 for a very long time, perhaps pre European colonization. So 1669 01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:58.520 but this also appears in India and all three kinds, 1670 01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:00.560 and then also appears in all the him and all 1671 01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:03.079 of Asia, because we know we have medical Chinese medical 1672 01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.279 texts from three thousand years ago that actually detail the 1673 01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:09.680 use of it, so we know these things must have 1674 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:15.479 been universal rather than geographically limited. So I don't I 1675 01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:18.359 don't know to answer your question, like really properly, Lisa, 1676 01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:20.960 Like I don't know if if I'm going to give 1677 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:25.479 a theory, I actually think that probably they did originate, 1678 01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:28.600 like I think corn and tomatoes probably did originate in 1679 01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:33.880 Mexico or the Southwest area, but maybe there was other 1680 01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:37.199 points of contact. And obviously JJ was talking about. 1681 01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:40.000 This like with the templars and the so like, when 1682 01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:43.800 you get into that that idea, I've come across numerous 1683 01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:47.720 places where they say that the Egyptians called wheat corn, 1684 01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:51.000 So you know, it may have been just and corn 1685 01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:53.600 is a grass, as wheat as a grass, so maybe 1686 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:57.439 any of these fruit producing grasses at one time were 1687 01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:01.680 called corn. But as far as other areas of connection, 1688 01:45:02.239 --> 01:45:06.520 you know, you have within the Egyptian the hieroglyphs representations 1689 01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:10.359 of pineapples from South America. They're bringing cocaine from South 1690 01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:14.600 America to preserve the pharaoh's heart within. And I actually 1691 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:17.199 have seen a couple places where they have ears of 1692 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:22.439 corn in Egyptian hieroglyphs. So yeah, I think it's synonymous. 1693 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:25.439 I think there was a global culture that was that 1694 01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:29.359 was moving much more than we think possible. 1695 01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:33.399 Yeah, if you watch enough ancient Aliens, you'll learn that 1696 01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:38.279 wheat and corn came from Aliens, and everybody had this 1697 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:43.199 shit at one point, and so specifically wheat and corn 1698 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:48.800 are Alien. Yep, I'm not saying I'm not saying that's 1699 01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.600 my opinion. I'm just saying what Asia Alien said. 1700 01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:54.520 No, I think that's a great point though, Julia is 1701 01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:58.079 because one thing that well, like Robbie said, like corn 1702 01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:01.640 is a poechet, it's a grass family plant. So there 1703 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.319 are other grass family plants are actually extremely important for 1704 01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:08.640 human history. Like many of the grass family plants are edible. 1705 01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:12.439 One of the first grains in Asia was called jobs 1706 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:14.560 t here. Well obviously they didn't call it jobs here, 1707 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:17.560 but we call it jobs here. And that's a very nutritive, 1708 01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:22.640 very medicinal, actually edible grain. That's I eat it all 1709 01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:25.119 the time. It's very delicious. It's not a gross or anything. 1710 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:27.439 So but I'm just what I'm trying to say is that, 1711 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:30.439 like you look at the history, it's like millet, it's 1712 01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:35.199 like it's it's not exactly the wheat culture came much 1713 01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:38.600 much later. And so yeah, and I and I think 1714 01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:42.399 that the grass component is actually often overlooked by a 1715 01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:45.760 lot of like a Bible conspiracy. I'm not throwing Christians 1716 01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:49.319 at it anyway, just saying Bible conspiracy people, and just 1717 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:51.239 in general, I'll call it like as Nick would say, 1718 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:54.800 oh call it conspiracy. But I think that they they 1719 01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:57.079 don't really know Bodny. And I'm not saying you have 1720 01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.079 to be like I'm not an excellent bulliness myself. I'm 1721 01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.960 just saying, if you understand some of the connections between them, 1722 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:06.279 you can actually make more logical conclusions. Yeah. 1723 01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:11.640 And also if you get into the early Judaic texts, 1724 01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:16.279 they talk about basically when Adam was ejected from Paradise, 1725 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:19.960 that he was sent into the lowest realm of darkness 1726 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:23.520 and had to suffer down there before they he was 1727 01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:25.640 weeping in prayer and they finally brought him up to 1728 01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:28.960 this realm where we are now. And then he had 1729 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.239 a problem getting food and was just he tried to 1730 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.840 drown himself in the river and God had to bring 1731 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:37.479 him back to life, and he was crying because he 1732 01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:41.520 was hungry, and so one of the angels went to 1733 01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:45.039 God and basically it was like, you know, he's starving, 1734 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:47.880 what are we going to do? And God or the 1735 01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:52.319 Elohim basically took part of his own body and like 1736 01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:57.640 rubbed it and condensed it down into the very first 1737 01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:01.640 weak germ or the weak kernel, and then the angel 1738 01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:05.720 brought that to Adam, and then Adam became the first farmer, 1739 01:48:06.119 --> 01:48:09.000 you know, associated with the red earth. And then the 1740 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:13.479 bread is what fed the growing, growing in expanding civilization. 1741 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:14.680 I was gonna say. 1742 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:18.600 Wheat is mentioned so many times in the Bible as 1743 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:27.319 being spiritually significant, the wheat and the tears. You're right, yes, yeah, yeah, 1744 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:31.159 I do think it's spiritually significant, especially if it comes 1745 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:31.840 from Aliens. 1746 01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:35.920 Fine, it's just interesting that, like you're saying, Adam's own 1747 01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:38.840 flesh then became wheat, because then you have Christ becoming 1748 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:40.000 the Eucharist in the mask. 1749 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:42.119 Well, it was God's flesh that became weak. 1750 01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:45.079 Oh, God's flesh. Okay, Oh, so then that makes sense that, like, 1751 01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:48.720 you know, it makes more sense. Yeah, exactly, Okay, pack to. 1752 01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:50.560 Melt cheese a dick with the bread and the wine 1753 01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:53.239 and the first sacrament. Yeah, you know. 1754 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:55.199 So now. 1755 01:48:57.199 --> 01:49:01.760 Let's see, uh, like Adam as far as this figure 1756 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:05.039 that would demasculate and be risen to the state of 1757 01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:09.079 you know, the priestess of the Kibili cult, right, like 1758 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:14.520 addis the demasculated disciple emulates the secret of the Mother 1759 01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:19.199 of the mountains, and this secret of Kibili is that 1760 01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:25.680 she is the hermaphroditic Agdatus, who herself was emasculated by 1761 01:49:25.720 --> 01:49:29.199 a messenger of the gods. As we talked about earlier 1762 01:49:30.039 --> 01:49:36.319 and in the Hittite religion before we're looking at sixteen 1763 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:42.720 hundred to eleven eighty BC. Agdatus is also their sacred hermaphrodite. 1764 01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:47.199 So it's just let me read this last paragraph and 1765 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.760 then this wrap it up. In some ways, it seems 1766 01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:54.199 as though Addis and Kibyli were an older form of 1767 01:49:54.279 --> 01:49:59.760 this fertility worship that from Phrygia in its trans translation 1768 01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:04.880 to Syria becoming Adonis and Aphrodite and to the figures 1769 01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:08.720 bring us closer to the original. 1770 01:50:08.399 --> 01:50:10.520 Route of the. 1771 01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:16.640 The origins of these mystery schools, you know, in essence 1772 01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:22.760 in relation to nimrod Tamus Osirius and the expanding you 1773 01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:26.880 know school as it spread globally. And that's it. 1774 01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:35.479 Wow, So barn Burner, Robbie, I mean literally you crushed. 1775 01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:37.960 It always does. 1776 01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:43.880 So. But that's basically what I've been working on this Swinner. 1777 01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:49.159 That's that's part of the book that uh you know, 1778 01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:52.640 parts of that are direct excerpts from from my book. 1779 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:56.119 So yeah, that's that's awesome. I mean, I feel like 1780 01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:59.000 I learned a ton that's what I'm here. 1781 01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:01.079 That's that's great. 1782 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:04.119 Something I did want to add about the whole wheat thing, 1783 01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:09.760 and I mean, Lisa could concur and Soko Teresa because 1784 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:12.159 she was in the series, so she knows what I'm 1785 01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:14.560 talking about. I'm not crazy, but we did at one 1786 01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:16.439 point kind of like show like what the zambules is 1787 01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:19.520 in looks like underneath in your eye, and it does 1788 01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:22.000 very much look like a wheat or almost depending on 1789 01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:23.720 what the way you're looking at it, and if you're 1790 01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:25.479 showing I think like there's like pole up things kind 1791 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.760 of in there, almost looks like a lavender, which again 1792 01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:31.600 is associated with total The zamnials is in in your 1793 01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:35.239 eye is what actually makes your lens raise up and down, 1794 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:38.680 and that's when you get the whole change and everything 1795 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:43.680 starts going on inside your eye. I even question when 1796 01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:46.600 we talk about your so being the machinery or the 1797 01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:49.439 imagery of the world. I often wonder, and it's called 1798 01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:51.600 that you're considered a machine or a mechanism in a sense, 1799 01:51:52.039 --> 01:51:53.920 or I from wonder if it's actually talking about that, 1800 01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:56.760 because that is actually what's changing the direction of light 1801 01:51:56.920 --> 01:51:58.800 in your eye, if it's reflecting out this way or 1802 01:51:58.840 --> 01:52:02.560 going back up that way. So I often wonder about 1803 01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:04.640 like wheat when it's always you see it always kind 1804 01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:07.920 of in a circular shape and you're talking about rising 1805 01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:12.159 bread on leaven is it actually showing the whole rising 1806 01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:15.199 the lens in your eye? I know that's a little 1807 01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:16.800 out there. And then just one thing I wanted to 1808 01:52:16.880 --> 01:52:19.960 mention before you know, everybody else says whatever, before we 1809 01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:23.439 wrap it up with this image right here. If you 1810 01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:26.319 see that, uh, the thing on top of his head, 1811 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:30.720 that's exactly what it starts to look like when I 1812 01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:34.319 say the eclipse starts to separate from itself. And during 1813 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:37.880 that whole time it's a little bit much. But this 1814 01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.079 is just my theory because of my own experiences, of 1815 01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:43.000 my own visions. During that whole time, I'm always pressing 1816 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:46.199 on my pineal gland really fucking hard, and once those 1817 01:52:46.239 --> 01:52:48.920 two things separate from each other, it feels like it 1818 01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:51.640 snaps back and punches me in the head. And that's 1819 01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:54.520 when I see the light and it goes. I often 1820 01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:58.680 think about the whole way that a snake fights, goes 1821 01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:01.800 forward to strike and pulls back when it's in flight, 1822 01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:07.760 fight in the flight at the same at the same time, 1823 01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:11.199 just like Horace, who is a bird that is a warrior, 1824 01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:15.119 flight and fight at the same time. And I also 1825 01:53:15.239 --> 01:53:18.520 conclude that that's exactly why my eyes changed because one 1826 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:20.520 is in fight mode and the other one's in flight 1827 01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:21.600 mode at the same time. 1828 01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:30.159 Right, So that's the sorry, go ahead, Oh sorry about that. 1829 01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:32.720 I'm sorry. I was so excited after you were saying that, 1830 01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:34.760 because I was like, yeah, I mean, that just shows 1831 01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:38.039 that having the magical experience is as good as as 1832 01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:41.680 like understanding the image, because that's what it looks like, 1833 01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:44.960 a cruscent moon, but it's really the eclipse. And only 1834 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:48.199 someone who really knows would know that, like a normative 1835 01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:50.279 Hindu won't know that. I won't be able to tell you, oh, 1836 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.960 it's a crust the moon if Siva not, it's the eclipse. 1837 01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:56.159 And even the snake confirms it, because the snake is 1838 01:53:56.199 --> 01:53:58.920 the god of the eclipse, right like the dragon Rahu. 1839 01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:01.960 So I think you don't even switching the coilarities at 1840 01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:02.880 that point, which is why I. 1841 01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:07.039 Get to exactly. And so he's even depicted as feminine 1842 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:10.119 Shiva even though he's a he's a clearly a masculine figure, 1843 01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:13.760 so he's gone through that hermetic process. He's a risen 1844 01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:16.960 at yasoda at the moon, and the Shakti is there 1845 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:19.800 waiting for him, the feminine force at the moon is 1846 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:21.920 there waiting for him, but it's really always with him, 1847 01:54:22.439 --> 01:54:25.119 but maybe she can't express herself fully until she's there. 1848 01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:27.760 So I think that's a really interesting idea. 1849 01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:29.520 It's like his soul poorn out of your head too. 1850 01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:31.159 I always say it feels like it's just fucking like. 1851 01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:36.640 Yeah, well, that's that's what it is. It's like when 1852 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:39.960 they worship Shiva, who could be considered to be like 1853 01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:46.239 Ihova or Rudra, he can they pour milk on his ushhijaya, 1854 01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:49.640 which just means his crown on it is that that's 1855 01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:52.319 the big bun thing that he wears. It's like a 1856 01:54:52.600 --> 01:54:55.359 it's it's like a lump of flesh. Sometimes is described 1857 01:54:55.399 --> 01:54:56.680 sometimes it's like a dreadlock. 1858 01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:57.840 It depends on the text. 1859 01:54:58.279 --> 01:55:03.199 But it's to pas to fy the arising consciousness at 1860 01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:06.159 you so like to pacify him so he's cool and calm, 1861 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:08.560 like the moon. So that's what the whole thing of 1862 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:11.640 the milk is. It's like pouring milk over the black stone. 1863 01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:15.880 What color does arise? Turquoise? Turquoise like the day sky. 1864 01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:19.199 So you're putting God to sleep. That's kind of the idea. 1865 01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:26.880 So thank you. This is a great illustration man, anybody 1866 01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:28.359 else have anything, I know, I kind of like took 1867 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:29.520 it over and got were right there. 1868 01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:30.560 That's good. 1869 01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:35.359 I was just going to say something about the wheat 1870 01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:36.399 because you brought. 1871 01:55:36.239 --> 01:55:40.520 It up to it's one of the most genetically modified 1872 01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:45.319 things that we have, and it's it's a damn shame 1873 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:48.119 because I love pasta, you know, and. 1874 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:51.520 I love bread. I loves carbs. 1875 01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:54.880 Okay, it's a genetic like we've eaten bread for as 1876 01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.279 long as human as you know, can record history. I 1877 01:55:58.319 --> 01:56:00.560 think it's just part of who and the fact that 1878 01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:04.079 they've taken it and genetically modified it is an adulteration 1879 01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:05.800 and inversion of nature. 1880 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:08.279 It's an attack on us, Robbie, is what it is. 1881 01:56:08.439 --> 01:56:14.319 Because the problem right well, and the problem is I've 1882 01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:17.319 been looking into it a lot lately, is that, like 1883 01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:22.920 Monsanto and stuff like this, they they have popularized the 1884 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:29.520 idea of spraying all wheat products with folic acid, which 1885 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:33.239 your body can't even digest most of the time. It 1886 01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:37.600 causes horrible health issues fortified. If you see something on 1887 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:43.399 a label that says enriched wheat, fortified wheat, or folic acid, 1888 01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:46.159 you need to stay the fuck away from it as 1889 01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:49.600 far as you possibly can. The only type of wheat 1890 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:53.840 you should be eating should be organic wheat that's unfortified, 1891 01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.479 not enriched, no folic acid. 1892 01:56:57.399 --> 01:56:58.520 There is a form of. 1893 01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:03.199 Fullic acid quote unquote that's not full of acid that 1894 01:57:03.319 --> 01:57:06.119 your body can't absorb, but that's not what they're using. 1895 01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:12.359 So it's just been weaponized against us, so that it's 1896 01:57:12.399 --> 01:57:17.399 basically poison, which sucks, like I said, because America is 1897 01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:19.119 a nation that loves carbs. 1898 01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:23.720 You know, it's interesting when you said so folic acid 1899 01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:28.199 was incorporated into wheat because wheat was a staple because 1900 01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:32.960 so many of birth defects, and folic acid is folate, 1901 01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:36.239 you know, whis the B vitamin, and most of your 1902 01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:40.920 B vitamins are derived from animal products. But if you 1903 01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:46.720 look at historical genetic lines and gen police interjective, I'm wrong. 1904 01:57:47.279 --> 01:57:49.920 When you look at historical lines of wheat as well 1905 01:57:49.960 --> 01:57:54.279 as corn, most of the ancient lines had a higher 1906 01:57:54.439 --> 01:57:59.239 protein content than they do today. They were almost a 1907 01:57:59.319 --> 01:58:07.479 complete meal or complete foods, a higher amino acid profile 1908 01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:13.119 than they do today. And through so many modifications, all 1909 01:58:13.239 --> 01:58:15.720 of the nutrient content has been brought down. And that's 1910 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:18.640 also because of soil. The same type of things that 1911 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:21.119 we grow back in the day used to warm your 1912 01:58:21.159 --> 01:58:23.720 house with wood and the ashes would go into the 1913 01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:28.720 soil and then basically, you know, feed more of the 1914 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:31.880 microbiome of the soil and then you you know whatever. 1915 01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:35.720 But if you do look at that, I wonder how 1916 01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:38.800 much of it is. Maybe that it was a way 1917 01:58:38.920 --> 01:58:43.039 to interject the vitamins, but maybe be vitamins were also 1918 01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:47.319 not being how do you say they were stripped of 1919 01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:53.479 wheat in its plant form. Granted, you know, I get 1920 01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:56.600 the need for it, but I think what we've done 1921 01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.920 is and Robb me, you do this perfectly on Twitter. 1922 01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:02.960 It's the simulacra what wheat used to be. 1923 01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:09.479 It's no longer. Yeah, like this fake shadows, yes, yes, 1924 01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.199 as the valuable thing that is, but it's not the 1925 01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:15.680 shadow of its former self. 1926 01:59:16.119 --> 01:59:16.239 Right. 1927 01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:19.760 But when we get into wheat, right in the beginning, 1928 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:23.479 the very first time it was genetically modified, was they 1929 01:59:23.600 --> 01:59:27.199 took and there was the same guy that genetically modified 1930 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:31.439 the ruby red grapefruit. Right, but they used gamma radiation 1931 01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:36.119 on the genome of wheat and basically bombarded it with 1932 01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:41.760 radiation these gamma rays, and they created bush wheat that 1933 01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:47.560 would grow faster and would bush out with bigger kernels. 1934 01:59:47.920 --> 01:59:50.840 So here you're talking about getting rid of the pro 1935 01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:56.800 the profile of the essential you know, protein and the 1936 01:59:56.880 --> 02:00:00.760 amino acids, and and basically they poof it out super 1937 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:04.520 big so that they have to harvest it early before 1938 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:08.840 it's even done, otherwise it breaks off and they can't 1939 02:00:08.920 --> 02:00:12.399 harvest it with machines. But the guy that did that, 1940 02:00:13.039 --> 02:00:16.319 he won a Nobel Peace Prize in Food Science for 1941 02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:21.920 basically creating this this big bush gmo wheat. And that 1942 02:00:22.199 --> 02:00:25.920 was in the fifties when that happened initially. And since then, 1943 02:00:26.359 --> 02:00:29.880 you know, Monsanto's come in and with their cassettes injected 1944 02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:33.479 nud genomes for the glycopade, so they have to spray 1945 02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:35.319 everything with it so that it kills everything. 1946 02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:37.960 But that I was going to say that is like 1947 02:00:38.039 --> 02:00:40.640 they've just taken it one step further, one step further. 1948 02:00:40.800 --> 02:00:46.279 Now it's like an unrecognizable plant, but frank and wheat, right. 1949 02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:48.439 But think of it like if it was like manna 1950 02:00:48.520 --> 02:00:51.560 from heaven, you know, like this, Think of it if 1951 02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:56.119 if it really was given to us by the gods 1952 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:59.520 quote unquote wheat, this thing that you can eat that 1953 02:00:59.640 --> 02:01:02.680 has all the vitamins and protein and like whatever, it'll 1954 02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:07.319 keep you alive, and they they've bastardized it to the 1955 02:01:07.720 --> 02:01:11.319 form of wheat that we eat now. And it's like 1956 02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:15.159 I said, I'm like a super label reader because I 1957 02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:20.039 do enjoy some things that are absolutely super you know, 1958 02:01:20.199 --> 02:01:22.680 like I'll throw in a stove fer SMC and cheese 1959 02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:24.760 every now and again. Don't get me wrong, but. 1960 02:01:29.199 --> 02:01:30.960 Yeah, I have bought that one myself. It's not too bad. 1961 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:34.720 Actually, dude, it's delicious, like solid. 1962 02:01:36.079 --> 02:01:37.039 Make it delicious. 1963 02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:38.960 Yeah, they make its good on that. 1964 02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:47.119 I don't understand this conversation. I'm totally granola, but that's okay. 1965 02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:48.159 Uh No. 1966 02:01:48.319 --> 02:01:50.760 I did want to say something that Teresa was talking 1967 02:01:50.800 --> 02:01:53.319 about in that chat, which is really profound, which is 1968 02:01:53.760 --> 02:01:56.199 like exactly what Robbie's saying. Like Robby's making a great 1969 02:01:56.239 --> 02:01:59.479 point about wheat, and then obviously Lisa made an amazing 1970 02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:02.319 point about how they stripped it of its nutrients content. Well, 1971 02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:05.479 papaya they did the same because you cannot modern papias. 1972 02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:08.079 If you've ever eaten a papaya or anything papaya flavored 1973 02:02:08.359 --> 02:02:11.399 that only comes out of the GMO industry, there is 1974 02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:15.000 no papaya without GMO does not exist now can you 1975 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:17.319 go to Mexico and find wild papias. Yeah, I'm sure 1976 02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:22.479 it's possible, but it's very rare, and they've cross bread 1977 02:02:22.920 --> 02:02:26.760 a lot with the wild papaya population. Now, papias are 1978 02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:29.199 really interesting because you can actually use them for latex. 1979 02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:33.319 So the assex did make condoms out of them, so prophylactic. 1980 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.680 It's also interesting because in doctrine of signatures, a papaya 1981 02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:39.359 is shaped like a womb, so there are actually a 1982 02:02:39.439 --> 02:02:46.760 borisiceafin qualities in the poppane latex. So again it's showing 1983 02:02:46.840 --> 02:02:49.520 like what Julia is saying, like it's manna from I 1984 02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:52.279 personally don't like that. It's not that I disagree with you, Julia, 1985 02:02:52.279 --> 02:02:54.960 but I think that we come up with those things 1986 02:02:55.359 --> 02:02:57.840 like we say, oh, we see this thing in nature, 1987 02:02:58.359 --> 02:03:01.640 we take of it and we sort of you know, 1988 02:03:02.560 --> 02:03:05.560 breed it, you could say, and then that's the divine process. 1989 02:03:05.640 --> 02:03:08.520 It's like our interaction with that's how that's just personally 1990 02:03:08.600 --> 02:03:10.640 my my how I think. So, yeah, I think it 1991 02:03:10.680 --> 02:03:11.560 comes from heaven. 1992 02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:14.279 But so do you think? Yeah? 1993 02:03:14.359 --> 02:03:14.760 So Jin? 1994 02:03:14.880 --> 02:03:18.640 Do you think the genetic process of genetic modification is 1995 02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:22.239 just part of the fractal that is a natural function 1996 02:03:22.439 --> 02:03:23.079 of the evolution. 1997 02:03:23.239 --> 02:03:30.359 No, because because the what isn't see Oh, as a gardener, 1998 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:35.000 I'm perfectly fine with hybridizing. I'm perfectly fine during like 1999 02:03:35.199 --> 02:03:39.680 land race species, Like that's just normal plant horticulture, right, 2000 02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:42.159 You're you're making things that are going to survive, be 2001 02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:46.600 really strong and last, especially for us like severe winters. Right, 2002 02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:51.000 So it makes total sense. But there's a part where 2003 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:54.880 you're going into this inner or secret layer right right, 2004 02:03:55.439 --> 02:03:57.840 like this thing that people can't see this, people that 2005 02:03:57.960 --> 02:04:00.640 can't really know you can't really know that because it's 2006 02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:04.560 occulted in a way, right, And so I don't think 2007 02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.000 that that is like a progressive thing. I think that's 2008 02:04:07.119 --> 02:04:09.760 very Luciferian. As someone who is like a little bit 2009 02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:12.439 Luciferian myself, Like, I'm just saying I think it's too much. 2010 02:04:12.920 --> 02:04:15.920 I think it's like you're trying to be something that 2011 02:04:16.119 --> 02:04:17.279 is not possible for us. 2012 02:04:17.680 --> 02:04:22.079 So for me, I'm interesting. Yeah, No, I'm sorry to 2013 02:04:22.079 --> 02:04:22.479 interrupt you. 2014 02:04:22.600 --> 02:04:26.800 It's interesting that like the two plants that they've mastardized 2015 02:04:26.840 --> 02:04:31.199 the most is like very regenerative looking wheat and papaya, 2016 02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:35.960 Like come on, And as somebody who's like, yeah, and corn, right, 2017 02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:38.960 and somebody who's done carnivore diet in the past and 2018 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:43.079 like removed all breads like from my life for a time. 2019 02:04:43.640 --> 02:04:45.920 I don't like fully do it now, but like for 2020 02:04:46.039 --> 02:04:48.319 a time I did. And I can say I think 2021 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:50.840 what happens to a lot of people is that their 2022 02:04:51.239 --> 02:04:55.359 autoimmune issues disappear because they're actually allergic to glyfe estate, 2023 02:04:55.920 --> 02:04:59.800 not wheat, Like you're just removing like all these talks 2024 02:04:59.840 --> 02:05:02.199 in It's not that actually like wheat is the problem 2025 02:05:02.319 --> 02:05:05.079 for you if you were to eat pure wheat. It's 2026 02:05:05.159 --> 02:05:08.479 that all the additives and chemicals on the plants that 2027 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:12.159 we consume is the problem. And for some people, unfortunately, 2028 02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:13.800 they're more sensitive to it than others. 2029 02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:15.119 For sure. 2030 02:05:15.199 --> 02:05:16.920 Yeah, you be funny. 2031 02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:23.840 No, I just want to say, vegetables actually do better 2032 02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:29.039 without much. Like flowers need tons of composts, they need mulching, 2033 02:05:29.159 --> 02:05:31.960 they need everything. Like you really have to tend flowers. 2034 02:05:32.359 --> 02:05:37.159 Vegetables just need composts or which we call it, or manure, 2035 02:05:37.479 --> 02:05:39.680 and then you're good to go, like you're ready to rock. 2036 02:05:39.720 --> 02:05:41.520 You don't need to spray them really with anything. If 2037 02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:43.359 you know how to do it, you're fine pretty much. 2038 02:05:43.399 --> 02:05:46.840 Maybe you'll lose a couple. But it's just that's interesting 2039 02:05:46.960 --> 02:05:49.800 from what you're saying. True says like that you don't 2040 02:05:49.800 --> 02:05:52.479 have to finesse vegetables that much. They're ready. They want 2041 02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:54.279 to produce like willing. 2042 02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:57.399 Yeah, they're just like you could eat me if you want. 2043 02:05:57.520 --> 02:05:58.039 It's fine. 2044 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:02.720 Is going to build upon what Jim was saying, and 2045 02:06:02.760 --> 02:06:04.520 I promise this will be the last thing about victuals 2046 02:06:05.039 --> 02:06:10.279 is that GMO technology or how it came about is 2047 02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:15.560 through the we borrow that the I guess process through 2048 02:06:15.640 --> 02:06:20.600 virus technology. The way that viruses scan the DNA they're 2049 02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:23.840 looking for palindromes again, going back to the palindrome right 2050 02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:28.680 when we watched the movie Arrival, how palindromes basically are 2051 02:06:29.199 --> 02:06:32.520 modeling how time can exist, you know, all at the 2052 02:06:32.560 --> 02:06:36.520 same time. So viruses scan the DNA sequence for palindromes 2053 02:06:36.560 --> 02:06:40.640 and then it inserts point mutations, either takes away or 2054 02:06:40.920 --> 02:06:44.199 inserts its own or whatever. And so that I guess 2055 02:06:44.279 --> 02:06:48.119 technology of how it works or how it behaves is 2056 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:52.560 exactly the basis of how we understood to do GMO. 2057 02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:55.640 So we learned that from viruses. So when people say 2058 02:06:55.720 --> 02:06:58.159 viruses aren't real, then where do we get the GMO 2059 02:06:58.239 --> 02:07:05.520 technology from That's that's how we That's how we developed 2060 02:07:05.680 --> 02:07:06.720 GMO technology. 2061 02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:12.520 And so I gotta say that was the whole thing. 2062 02:07:12.680 --> 02:07:15.920 Did you are you guys fans of the alien franchise 2063 02:07:16.039 --> 02:07:22.880 like Covenant and Promethea, when they went and Alien Covenant 2064 02:07:23.039 --> 02:07:25.399 to that new planet, like they were looking for wheat, 2065 02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:30.560 they were looking for water, and they had manufactured like 2066 02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:33.199 this virus that would shoot up out of the wheat 2067 02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:35.279 and it would like go in your fucking ear and 2068 02:07:35.359 --> 02:07:38.039 implant you with like whatever the thing is. But like 2069 02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:40.640 that's the essentially what they're doing is they're taking like 2070 02:07:41.039 --> 02:07:45.439 our basic life force of like wheat water there and 2071 02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:47.119 they're injecting. 2072 02:07:46.560 --> 02:07:47.560 It with weird stuff. 2073 02:07:47.960 --> 02:07:51.439 And I actually just watched this documentary and they said, 2074 02:07:51.439 --> 02:07:55.119 if you eat pasta in Italy, you could go for 2075 02:07:55.279 --> 02:08:00.239 like a fucking jog afterwards. Experience you don't feel bogged down, 2076 02:08:00.319 --> 02:08:02.720 you don't feel sluggish, you don't feel tired. And it's 2077 02:08:02.800 --> 02:08:06.840 because they don't fortify or enrich their wheat products. It's 2078 02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:11.479 just wheat. So if you can get there is a brand. 2079 02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:14.600 I get it sometimes at my local grocery store. But 2080 02:08:14.680 --> 02:08:18.720 if you can get imported pastas from Italy. They are 2081 02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:23.000 way the fuck better for you than getting like Berea 2082 02:08:23.279 --> 02:08:24.880 or whatever that fucking brand. 2083 02:08:24.760 --> 02:08:26.920 Is that they have at Walmart, Like, try to stay 2084 02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:27.680 away from that shit. 2085 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:32.279 But I am only saying this because I love spaghetti, Like, 2086 02:08:32.479 --> 02:08:35.920 please do not fuck with my carbs, like I love carbs, 2087 02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:39.399 don't fuck with my carbs. There are brands you can 2088 02:08:39.439 --> 02:08:42.560 get that are not fortified or enriched, that are organic 2089 02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:47.640 imported from Italy, and it does make a difference, just saying. 2090 02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:50.560 I say for sure. When I was there, I mean 2091 02:08:51.079 --> 02:08:53.560 all again, obviously you're in Italy, there is a lot 2092 02:08:53.640 --> 02:08:56.880 of pasta and I was like, oh, man, like I 2093 02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:58.239 don't want to be you know, I'm on vacation. I 2094 02:08:58.279 --> 02:09:00.439 want to be dragged down at all. You know, I 2095 02:09:00.479 --> 02:09:01.920 heard the same thing that you had said and I 2096 02:09:02.039 --> 02:09:04.720 experienced it. I mean I would eat a big plate, 2097 02:09:05.079 --> 02:09:07.359 you know, I'd have lasagna for lunch, and I was 2098 02:09:07.640 --> 02:09:09.840 on the go still, you know, walking around Rome like 2099 02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:12.680 I feel full, but I'm that fucking stuff. 2100 02:09:12.840 --> 02:09:13.600 You'll lose weight. 2101 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.319 There was I'm almost positive I did. 2102 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:20.439 For the ten days much carbs and still be fine. 2103 02:09:20.880 --> 02:09:22.600 Do you think that has to do with the beer 2104 02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:28.960 as well? In America. Oh but this is so many. 2105 02:09:28.920 --> 02:09:30.640 Things, guys, is a whole other episode. 2106 02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:35.199 Germany has purity laws and you know, whereas in America 2107 02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:36.560 it's like food science. 2108 02:09:37.119 --> 02:09:39.760 You know, when when Nick brought on the NDE guy, 2109 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:42.039 he was talking and Lisa was on. I can't I 2110 02:09:42.079 --> 02:09:43.840 can't remember golf was on. I know it was Nick 2111 02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:49.279 and Lisa for sure, Yeah, him, he we were. He 2112 02:09:49.439 --> 02:09:54.079 was talking about something like plants that contain a specific substance. 2113 02:09:54.079 --> 02:09:57.079 I'm sorry, lest I totally forgot now, but I remember 2114 02:09:57.119 --> 02:09:59.680 thinking myself the substance he's talking about hops also. 2115 02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:03.960 Contained Oh is it the cannabinoids? 2116 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:07.800 Yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you, I'm sorry. 2117 02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:11.479 Yeah, hops is in the cannabinoid family for sure. 2118 02:10:11.399 --> 02:10:12.680 Yes, yes, yep. 2119 02:10:13.880 --> 02:10:17.319 And so it's really interesting that they would obviously if 2120 02:10:17.319 --> 02:10:20.119 you tamper with the wheat, and it's not just it's 2121 02:10:20.159 --> 02:10:23.279 not just like beer, it's also soy sauce. I guess 2122 02:10:23.319 --> 02:10:26.800 someone who doesn't eat any gluten. I know that you 2123 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:29.439 have to carry your tomorrow with you basically if you're 2124 02:10:29.479 --> 02:10:32.399 gonna eat anything. One of those people that. 2125 02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:36.479 Tapped into the whole phytoestrogen thing because of soy and. 2126 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:46.079 Yes, yes, so they also trying to reclaim aluminum out 2127 02:10:46.079 --> 02:10:47.520 of the ground. They can come out of the soy 2128 02:10:47.600 --> 02:10:49.680 can come out of the ground with upwards of twenty 2129 02:10:49.720 --> 02:10:54.840 two percent aluminum within its makeup. That's why you have 2130 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:58.000 to ferment it. That's why the fermentation process of soy 2131 02:10:58.159 --> 02:10:58.880 is so essential. 2132 02:10:59.520 --> 02:11:01.039 Yeah, that's interesting. 2133 02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:03.079 Yeah, that's a great point, Robbie. 2134 02:11:04.319 --> 02:11:07.119 With my g I man, but you have to eat. 2135 02:11:10.760 --> 02:11:12.319 You can't eat it like a mom. 2136 02:11:12.439 --> 02:11:20.399 They yeah, yeahs my ass off. 2137 02:11:22.960 --> 02:11:27.520 Oh wow, you have to eat it. 2138 02:11:27.720 --> 02:11:30.279 You have to process. It has to be a secondary 2139 02:11:30.359 --> 02:11:33.199 process because tofu is just the pressing, the cold pressing 2140 02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:39.239 right of the beans my grandparents used to make. Yeah, 2141 02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:41.640 So basically you have to you have to cook it. 2142 02:11:42.039 --> 02:11:43.840 Plus I don't you don't know have to cook it, 2143 02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:46.640 but you have to apply some kind of fermentation or 2144 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:50.600 or or you eat it with like dropping These people 2145 02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:52.960 eat it with tons of pickled ginger. So that's obviously 2146 02:11:53.039 --> 02:11:57.159 gonna have like a carmentative effects exactly. 2147 02:11:57.439 --> 02:12:01.560 So that's why I love delicious. To me, I love it. 2148 02:12:02.039 --> 02:12:04.520 I feel like probiotics do the body good. 2149 02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:05.840 I haven't had that. 2150 02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:07.960 It's good stuff. 2151 02:12:08.520 --> 02:12:12.359 Do you like vinegar, well, you like like apple cider? 2152 02:12:12.479 --> 02:12:13.560 Vinegar or anything like that. 2153 02:12:13.840 --> 02:12:17.920 Yes, So when when Lazarus was raised from the dead, 2154 02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:21.359 they gave him a sponge with a vinegar drink, and 2155 02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:25.880 from the research I've done, yeah, I'm pretty sure it'skombacha. 2156 02:12:27.079 --> 02:12:30.279 It has to be right because it's like the fermented vinegar. 2157 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:31.239 Yeah. 2158 02:12:32.479 --> 02:12:34.439 Wasn't that what they gave Jesus on the Cross? 2159 02:12:34.640 --> 02:12:39.439 Yeah yeah, yeah, roll or something like that I think 2160 02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:41.640 is what they called it. But yeah, it was, but 2161 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:47.000 it was a healing kind of a healing drink drink. Yeah. See, 2162 02:12:47.079 --> 02:12:50.760 if Jesus drink kimbucha, everything should be able to get 2163 02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:52.000 on board with that ship. 2164 02:12:55.439 --> 02:12:58.640 There's something interesting, Julia, is that fermented food is actually 2165 02:12:58.680 --> 02:13:03.560 considered mossic food, meaning like almost sinful food because it 2166 02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:07.079 actually brings you down to Earth. It's not sinful per se, 2167 02:13:07.159 --> 02:13:09.960 but that's one interpretation of Thomas. It can it weighs 2168 02:13:10.039 --> 02:13:12.560 you down, It makes you weightier. That's more of a 2169 02:13:12.760 --> 02:13:15.159 earthier Yeah, earthier. That's a perfect though. 2170 02:13:16.760 --> 02:13:17.880 It makes you more con. 2171 02:13:19.760 --> 02:13:24.039 I'm from the South, so pickled pigs, feet, pickled eggs, 2172 02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:28.479 anything fermented, I'm getting down with that show. 2173 02:13:29.079 --> 02:13:29.399 I don't know. 2174 02:13:29.680 --> 02:13:32.920 My Instagram fet is the middle aged women touting the 2175 02:13:33.000 --> 02:13:35.079 benefits of fermented food to mimic. 2176 02:13:38.560 --> 02:13:42.520 All in moderation, right, yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2177 02:13:42.560 --> 02:13:46.319 yeah I agree. I agree. And Robbie, look what you've 2178 02:13:46.439 --> 02:13:47.079 done today. 2179 02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:55.479 Look at this. That was awesome. Thank you very much, Robbie, 2180 02:13:55.760 --> 02:13:59.359 really everybody else that the group. 2181 02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:03.840 Of everybody trying in and all the different perspectives a 2182 02:14:04.039 --> 02:14:08.960 modern day gymnasium of h absolutely love it. 2183 02:14:10.119 --> 02:14:13.039 Thank you. Uh, before we let you plug your stuff again, 2184 02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:15.159 we'll have Teresa. Would you like to say anything as 2185 02:14:15.199 --> 02:14:16.680 we wrap this up? You want to plug your show? 2186 02:14:16.720 --> 02:14:18.279 I know you haven't done much recently, but. 2187 02:14:19.800 --> 02:14:22.439 I've been busy doing the Silly Pops and stuff. But yeah, 2188 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.720 I do have the Spiritual Gangsters. If people want to 2189 02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:27.520 go listen to old episodes, there's they're still getting. 2190 02:14:27.279 --> 02:14:28.560 Listened, so like that's cool. 2191 02:14:28.680 --> 02:14:32.680 Thanks for checking it out, and yeah, please check out 2192 02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:37.359 Silly Pops on my Instagram and website and whatever. You 2193 02:14:37.399 --> 02:14:39.439 can always DM me about it. And yeah, thank you 2194 02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:41.560 so much, Robbie. It was like a blast is always 2195 02:14:41.640 --> 02:14:44.000 so always I enjoy hanging out for sure. 2196 02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:49.920 Thank you, Cardinal, and thank you to the whole group. 2197 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:52.520 It was amazing, like a really fun roundtable like a 2198 02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:55.359 really great way to sort of like before Robbie goes 2199 02:14:55.399 --> 02:14:58.680 on tour. Yeah, really, I don't know. 2200 02:14:59.199 --> 02:15:00.520 You can see my right there. 2201 02:15:00.560 --> 02:15:01.560 It's pat hilarious. 2202 02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:03.279 I'm out the boor in three days. 2203 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:05.520 So I was trying to get a date from him 2204 02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:06.840 in July and he's like, I do I I conna 2205 02:15:06.840 --> 02:15:07.359 be home too, like. 2206 02:15:07.359 --> 02:15:08.119 A like. 2207 02:15:10.399 --> 02:15:11.279 Almost September. 2208 02:15:11.680 --> 02:15:15.640 So yeah, but I will take the opportunity to plug 2209 02:15:15.720 --> 02:15:18.199 at this end juncture and say that, yeah, you can 2210 02:15:18.239 --> 02:15:21.520 definitely listen to my throat show. Threshold Saints. Alex Rivera 2211 02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:24.800 will be my next episode drop and it actually turned 2212 02:15:24.840 --> 02:15:27.359 out really well, I you know, so I'm I'm really 2213 02:15:27.359 --> 02:15:28.800 proud of it, and there will be a part two 2214 02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:33.600 to that and then obviously welcome to Hapaboria. So it's 2215 02:15:33.640 --> 02:15:36.319 this like the Gonzo Gnostics series that I've been working 2216 02:15:36.399 --> 02:15:38.439 on on on X and we do live and we 2217 02:15:38.520 --> 02:15:43.600 talked about Cocola and Tontra and speculative narcissism and metafiction. 2218 02:15:44.079 --> 02:15:47.800 So we're on either Wave part one, so that'll be 2219 02:15:47.880 --> 02:15:50.359 a three part mini series within a series. So I'm 2220 02:15:50.439 --> 02:15:53.560 doing it very kabalas stick, very like you know, like 2221 02:15:53.680 --> 02:15:55.720 how I like I'm taking a cue from Nick. So 2222 02:15:56.319 --> 02:15:59.720 definitely check that out if you're interested. Live every Friday 2223 02:15:59.800 --> 02:16:03.359 night on X and uh right before before jjshow before 2224 02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:05.439 JJ and Nick two Fridays, so don't worry about that. 2225 02:16:05.560 --> 02:16:07.800 But yeah, you can watch us and then jump on 2226 02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:10.760 with them. So thank you so much, guys, Thank you. 2227 02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:12.880 I was gonna I was gonna plug anyway. For people 2228 02:16:13.159 --> 02:16:15.720 who are who do do that, I do highly suggest 2229 02:16:15.760 --> 02:16:18.399 to go check out his spaces. I've jumped in there 2230 02:16:18.520 --> 02:16:21.600 numerous times a few times, and I'll listen to it 2231 02:16:21.640 --> 02:16:23.640 like why I'm editing or doing stuff, and they get 2232 02:16:23.680 --> 02:16:26.840 into some pretty deep topics. So I definitely suggest to 2233 02:16:26.880 --> 02:16:29.600 go check it out. I think it's very well. So 2234 02:16:30.520 --> 02:16:34.280 thank you Jen, Thank you Bos of course. Uh, Julia, 2235 02:16:34.440 --> 02:16:37.399 would you like to uh you don't let everybody know 2236 02:16:37.440 --> 02:16:38.600 where they can find you? Amazing one. 2237 02:16:39.479 --> 02:16:43.000 Yeah, yeah, so I'm obviously Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you 2238 02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:45.079 listen to podcasts. I'm just gonna go ahead and throw 2239 02:16:45.200 --> 02:16:48.200 my email out right now because I always say email me, 2240 02:16:48.360 --> 02:16:53.959 email me. My email is ghost dot Peach at outlook 2241 02:16:54.000 --> 02:16:56.079 dot com. If you want to work with me, please 2242 02:16:56.239 --> 02:16:59.360 hit me up at that email. I'm working on a 2243 02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:04.239 sleeper else this mini series. And I actually have another 2244 02:17:04.520 --> 02:17:05.959 topic that I kind of want to bring on the 2245 02:17:05.959 --> 02:17:08.120 Occult Rejects when it's ready. I just got to finish 2246 02:17:08.200 --> 02:17:11.879 the presentation about a fucking whack ass serial killer I 2247 02:17:12.120 --> 02:17:14.680 never heard of before that has links to all the 2248 02:17:14.799 --> 02:17:19.840 fucking three Letters, and I mean it is just batshit crazy. 2249 02:17:20.040 --> 02:17:22.440 But anyways, working on a lot of fun stuff for 2250 02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:23.559 Cosmic Peach podcast. 2251 02:17:23.600 --> 02:17:24.360 If you want to work with. 2252 02:17:24.440 --> 02:17:27.280 Me, go stop Peach at outlook dot com. Thanks for 2253 02:17:27.360 --> 02:17:31.639 having me, Robbie, You're awesome, Teresa, love you jin always insightful, 2254 02:17:31.840 --> 02:17:35.079 Lisa gorgeous, smart, wish I was more like you. 2255 02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:39.479 Yes, no, Julia, thank you so much for coming on. 2256 02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:41.239 I really appreciate it. And and for the you know, 2257 02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:44.200 the listeners, go I go check out this series that 2258 02:17:44.239 --> 02:17:47.200 she's doing. You know, uh, you know, we we covered 2259 02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:50.479 sleep paralysis. Uh, it did very well. People seem to 2260 02:17:50.559 --> 02:17:53.040 really like it. So I suggest those people to go 2261 02:17:53.200 --> 02:17:54.680 check out this series that she's putting out. You know, 2262 02:17:54.760 --> 02:17:57.200 it's going to be a banger, she's covering it. Thank 2263 02:17:57.200 --> 02:18:01.319 you so much, Julia, and then Lisa, you cult rejected 2264 02:18:01.360 --> 02:18:02.680 man scientist? What is going on? 2265 02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:06.239 Thank you so much, so much for having me this 2266 02:18:06.879 --> 02:18:09.440 late morning for me, so it was like brunch and 2267 02:18:09.639 --> 02:18:17.120 having my coffee. Cult research occult rejects, And this honestly 2268 02:18:17.360 --> 02:18:19.920 genuinely felt like we were in around the table, Robbie, 2269 02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:22.000 and we were and you were telling us a story 2270 02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:26.000 and we're all listening and chiming in, and it definitely 2271 02:18:26.159 --> 02:18:29.719 it didn't feel like we were separated geographically at all. 2272 02:18:30.079 --> 02:18:35.440 So I genuinely thank you for the invitation, Jin Teresa, Julia, Robbie, Nick. 2273 02:18:36.000 --> 02:18:40.959 This was an amazing discussion and I'm very grateful to 2274 02:18:41.000 --> 02:18:42.680 have been a part of it. Thank you so much. 2275 02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:44.440 And the only thing I want to plug is a 2276 02:18:44.520 --> 02:18:47.280 cult research institute dot org checks out. 2277 02:18:48.680 --> 02:18:50.600 Thank you very much, Lisa. I appreciate you coming on 2278 02:18:50.719 --> 02:18:55.319 and always you know, putting in what you got to say. Uh, Robbie, 2279 02:18:55.479 --> 02:18:57.760 please let everybody know where they could find all your 2280 02:18:57.799 --> 02:18:58.440 amazing stuff. 2281 02:18:59.319 --> 02:19:01.559 Yeah, and I want to thank everybody for showing up. 2282 02:19:02.159 --> 02:19:04.120 I was a little anxious at first when I saw 2283 02:19:04.159 --> 02:19:06.079 how many people might be here, but I think it 2284 02:19:06.399 --> 02:19:10.520 like flowed so well and just getting you know, everybody, 2285 02:19:10.719 --> 02:19:13.319 you know, got you guys all know what you're talking about, 2286 02:19:13.760 --> 02:19:16.559 and it's just great coming together and the meeting of 2287 02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:19.559 minds and kind of seeing how it all kind of 2288 02:19:19.639 --> 02:19:23.680 just blossoms and ballooms. But yeah, I'm our Marx or 2289 02:19:23.760 --> 02:19:27.040 Robbie Marx. If you want to check out my other stuff, 2290 02:19:27.120 --> 02:19:31.639 I have my website, my etsyed, my podcast, my Patreon, 2291 02:19:32.000 --> 02:19:34.840 all my social media. You can go and find me 2292 02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:38.200 at my link tree which is link tree r M 2293 02:19:38.559 --> 02:19:40.719 A r X and that'll pull up everything. 2294 02:19:41.120 --> 02:19:43.760 So yeah, thanks Nick, Oh, thank you, bro. I really 2295 02:19:43.799 --> 02:19:46.280 appreciate your work. You help me keep up. You helped 2296 02:19:46.319 --> 02:19:47.920 me keep putting out work I can be proud of, 2297 02:19:48.479 --> 02:19:51.840 So thank you. So nice again, all of you. It 2298 02:19:51.959 --> 02:19:54.239 was an amazing chat. I again, we talked about so 2299 02:19:54.319 --> 02:19:56.680 many things and I really loved it. That's what I 2300 02:19:56.920 --> 02:19:58.920 hope to see all the people do is what we 2301 02:19:59.040 --> 02:20:02.159 do here, you know, uh, just amazing stuff. We made 2302 02:20:02.200 --> 02:20:05.319 magic today. So in the next one, until the next one, 2303 02:20:05.399 --> 02:20:05.799 everybody 2304 02:20:05.879 --> 02:20:07.000 Be well later