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the rebel County of Cork. He's from the Cork Supernatural
Society and later Philip Costello from Paranormal Awakenings Ireland lend hand.
Philip is out on Ireland's rugged historic West Coast Galway.
To be precise, and by popular demand, he'll be following
up his recent appearance on Scary Era. The Squire aka
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as he regales us with the mystical tale of the
Hurlers of Rehen an excerpt from Kiron Fannings Haunted Ireland,
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Speaker 3: But not for the first time, we pull on our
vulcanized paranormal panties for a yomp to Killarney County Kerry,
where Anthony Kerrigan and Jessica Murphy of Ghost Era we
are going to enlighten y'all.
Speaker 1: On their vast experience of all things paranormal, and they're
fascinating soon to be streamed project called phantasm Collective. I
began our chat by stating that, in my humble view,
ghost eras approach to paranormal investigation appears non tradition in
the sense that it is very broad minded, scientific and comprehensive,
not in the least traditional in the just show up
at a location and you know, have a go at
finding a ghost say. I asked Jessica, Was this an
accurate observation on my part?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. We want to see a broad picture by
building and bringing all the puzzle pieces together, right, so
it's not just one Again, this is no knock to
any other explorative teams. It's just, you know, we found
that the way that we do these investigations and how
they come together can give us a really well rounded
story of what could have happened in the area.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I would say, like with paranormal phenomena, people that have
occurrencies or experiences are spontaneous. They're not all to do
probably sound phenomena or visual phenomena, So people can experience
things through the other senses and information can be gathered
through other ways through the environment as well. And I
suppose like we do a lot of divination experiments, a
lot of which would include stuff like silencers, talking boards,
drying and automatic writing, drawing, all those kind of sort
of experients, but also using different types of equipment to
pick up like environmental factors such as sound, lighting, humidity, temperature,
and those sort of things there. But I would say
that apart from other teams, of the teams do go
into the delve into that particular area, but as well
doing the divination experiments. Analyzing and reviewing this kind of
stuff takes up weeks even months. So an investigation would
take about two months to evaluate on our side because
we probably would be reviewing on how people react, what
questions they ask, where the divination tool moved to, and
just reviewing what it is afterwards. Like so does be
with some cases that'll be up to about sixty incidents
that we would have to evaluate drawing that investigation or
what people felt where these divination tools moved and then
you got taken them as well than what you've found
out recordings, if there's any EVPs, any visuals that kind
of stock photographs or footage so it does take a lot.
We only do about probably fee to four investigations in
year due to that.
Speaker 1: You guys have got your dynamics at work, the equipment,
just say, the data end of things, which is really important. Jessica,
you said that word data and your mind is open.
But if you're more of a practical person and you're
a skeptical person, I think ghost are would definitely be
my go to.
Speaker 4: I really agree. I think there's I think this says
a lot about us as spiritual beings as well, in
the fact that you know, not everybody can rely on
those gut feelings or the intuition of feeling that extra
paranormal or that extra endity, you know, that kind of energy.
So I think it's natural for a lot of skeptics
to look for that validation. They want to see the facts.
They want to see, you know, if they can hold it,
they want to hold it right. So I think when
we can kind of compare and contrast our base tests
versus you know, the actual test during the readings, it's
like these are you were here when we did the
base and you were here now, and you see that
there is a drastic change. Like I said, it does
become a factual thing. It's not a wait and see experiment.
It's rapid, it's time happening.
Speaker 1: Now right, absolutely, and that just further emphasizes what I'm
saying that it's great the attitude that you have to it. Meanwhile,
back on the Ranch Solstice, did you have any fun
with the solstice yesterday? Is that your thing?
Speaker 4: Yes, that's my thing anyways. No, I definitely partake in
the solstice, and the full moon was last week, so
I do tend to. Depending on the full moon and
the solstice itself, my level of participation does vary. I
find I get so beat up by the solstice. I
don't know if anybody else, but there's like a big
energy shift. So I'm just like down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well a.
Speaker 4: Little beat up the last week from the full moon
and then this am I okay?
Speaker 1: So what brings a Canadian? And I assume are you?
Are you British Anthony? Why do I get an English anon?
Speaker 5: There? Yeah? Well yeah I was. I was born in
England there, you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I've been here in Coloney twenty six years
and I suppose I met Jessica through a friend who's
also in the team. Cameron Murphy and because Cameron's married
to Jessica's husband. No, it is twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: My brother in law is also on the team, So
I'm married Cameron whose brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah, keep it.
Speaker 1: In the family, that's what I say.
Speaker 7: It runs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I met Anthony, but I guess it'll be
over ten years ago anyways. Now, during an initial like
kind of a fun investigation, it wasn't anything serious. It was, Hey,
I've got a friend who's into this. Let's go down
to the local castle or the local abbey and check
it out.
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking just before I started I
hit the big red button, and Anthony, you were telling
me about the motorcycle accident you had. Have you got
a view on the after life? What do you think
happens when we flatline?
Speaker 4: I you know, because that's obviously a very like kind
of an interesting question. I don't necessarily believe in a
heaven or hell. I believe that there is a final
destination if our soul chooses it. I think that like
our souls are never any energy, and I do think
that every life begins with the soul contract. I feel like,
you know, our soul has gone through a million lives
so if that's reincarnation, yeah, I suppose. You know, I
believe in that. I do believe that karma is a
very big important part of life. I think that the
sufferings of people, maybe that's that's really heavy. Maybe not
the sufferings of people, but I do think that like
our challenges in our daily lives, sometimes our consequence of
our past lives behaviors, if that makes any sense. So yeah,
I guess that's my feeling on it. What's after this,
I don't know, but I know that we're gonna up
here again somewhere in time.
Speaker 1: And do you think somebody brings Jessica into a room
and says, hey, have I got news for you?
Speaker 2: We're going to review here.
Speaker 5: Do like?
Speaker 4: I love that, I think, But that's I think. If
you're like I live, I should say I live each
day anticipating whatever to happen.
Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I guess somebody who's had to digest death and you
know I've been around it, and you know it's kind
of a fact. Again, it's a part of my not
my life immediately, I suppose, but it's something that we've
all had to deal with, and at this point in
my life. Of course, it's a very sad thing, but
I know there's more. I've seen the facts that there
is connection beyond. And if I had to sit down
and review my life up to date, well, I know
that I've lived with confidence. I've lived with you know,
putting kindness into the world, and that's that's all I
can do, right, So if I had to have that,
you know, have you ever seen that show The Good
Place North American show? But it's it's kind of based
on that that afterlife of the Good Place and the
Bad Place in the middle Place, and it's a really
great theory show. So I definitely recommend it. But I
think that's I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, it's interested probably on the scientific level. When
are you physically dead? So when does a physician or
a nurse or a doctor actually say or state that
a body is actually dead. So when he suggested that
there is an afterlife, then you have to say there's
no Actually I suppose there's no brain activity. There's a
brain activity, that's the main thing that's mostly after there.
You know, I don't remember the case with the lady
that was stuck in a kind of relative coma in
some cold environment. I think she was on a mountaintop
or something and she was unconscious for half it was weeks.
The brain brain mainly managed to cope with that kind
of situation. I managed to slow down the rate of
the body. Now there is a circumstances. I think it's
something up to half an hour. The brain can still
react without any oxygen or hurts, which is vibrations, which
is activity in the head, but it's trying to slow
down the process. Now, as you said that, people have
said to me, is there any afterlife? And I don't.
It depends on when you state a person's dead. I
would probably say when we asked this food experiment we've
done in the past, there was one are who asked
the spirit world what part of the body is most
active before you die and is the first to react
when you go into the afterlife. And I think it
was something to do with partial lobe a mechanism. It's
to do with dealing with pain. So it's like a
computer like it's noting that there's pain and it's ready
to shut down. So it shuts down the computer like
you could say there, but then it sort of sort
of retriggers it back in. It's the only part of
the brain that the spirit world said that continued in
the afterlife, so it never stopped, which was very interesting.
So we're talking about the salibrom the brain as a
physical kind of thing, but then also if we're talking
about a kind of consciousness, then this part of this
entity or thing that we're dealing with being part of
the brain, is there to control pain and realizes it
and then activates the soul in the afterlife. That's what
we found out during our experiments that even also that
of senses of a brain cannot relate to what is
in the after life. Only a few using parts of
the brain used for sound, which is which is very
interesting because we hear growth panel investigators, enthusiasts, they hear
electronic voice phenomenon, but also normal people there and I
suppose that's when the most activity happens and the most
things that change in people's lives is when somebody passes away.
There's some sort of reaction or some sort of like
clock stop, or things get thrown across the room, or
feel that touch or smell comes in that our senses
are alerted to that somebody's just passed, whether that consciousness
is still traveling from that person. We don't know, but
as they say as verses, and not that they say,
continue talking to the person after they've died, because they
can still hear you. And I suppose that's why we
use like experiments where we've used in the past, like
using the talking boards to call out five positive words
and five negative words, and we've used these positive words
to call out to it in the vicinity and to
see if we can get a reaction for this consciousness
to come forward. Most commonly it's a name, and calling
out a person's name is very significant because the first
thing you're alerted to for danger is when somebody calls
out your name to get you react, to get your attention.
And so if we want to get a spirit attention,
and we would have to call out the name or
call out words using the talking board.
Speaker 1: I do, like you're thinking on as Anthony here, do
any change of subject to do any of you have
an opinion on this stuff coming out of New Jersey
UFOs or UAPs as they're called these days.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into conspiracy, but like I
always say, when something like this is happening, there's usually
like more to the picture. Do you know what I mean?
I guess actually, to quote one of my favorite shows, Survivor,
when you look through the noise, you'll see the news.
And I think a lot of the drones and stuff
is a lot of noise for I guess what the
real news might be. It's a distraction. I think, I
really do, because I feel logically, I'm like, if it's
a bunch of drones, we have access to drones, you
send a drawn up and figure it out, you know,
Like it's like they can't be there all the time,
you know, if they're if there are persons, you know,
that's where I'm just like, I don't know, maybe, Anthony,
what do you.
Speaker 5: Think well has going by?
Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, if you it's probably a great
person to interview in the in the future that I
don't know if you've heard of them. There Markers dr
Amon Hansberg, he's part of research I think it's your
peen research into up and UFO phenomena, and he's worked
with I think he's worked with NASA as well and
these states. He's come out on the opening said there
is something above our world. There is something happening above
a few thousand kilometers above our earth, and it's happened
at various points of the Earth as well. Like you know,
whether as we're going back to what we're talking about,
like trans medium ship people coming, spirits coming through our voices.
We don't know if he's a spirit actually could be
extraterrestrial beings. We just don't know whether we're coming through
that kind of way like the grays are, whether they're
the future ourselves, as in the lack of humu unication,
not using vocabulary, using telepathy instead, similar to what we
had in the past, but we don't use it now,
and that's what we work on with ghost there. We
do experiments count in that way using sight, which is
cleve voyants, a telepathy, retrocognition, precognition, those types of experiment
experiments to see if there's any parallelmal phenomena involved in it.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 6: You can do tests that you know called presentiment testing
people's heart rate and also electroderma activity their skin to
see if they sweat in a situation where they think
they're being watched. So these kind of stuff that we
can use in our experiments in the investigations, as you said,
with UAP's UFOs We don't know to a full exact,
but I think there is like there is a cover up,
and I think where do the humans come from? And
as you say, like religion and you UFOs, you do
have that kind of there's a crossover with it as well,
you know, when you taught. I think it's to do
with the half beads of angels, which supposedly could be
extra toush to alien life forms, you know, so reading
into what we are now because you don't see it
with any other animal form on Earth.
Speaker 4: I did read somewhere that this was all like in
my like witchy groups, there was a prediction coming for
this year, for later with all the happenings of these
zuaps UFOs, that and this would be all over the world.
New Jersey, America seems to get all the buzz right,
But I do believe it is all happening all over
the world. That those extra beings are those eties, whatever
you want to call them, They are going to reintroduce
themselves to us. And this was one of the ways
of doing it, was having these things present for a
while so that we could get used to them. That
was another thing that I thought. But in this vicinity
I just think that, Like I definitely believe that there
was more below the surface of you know, in the
water than in space. But I feel like, Jimmy, we're
not alone. There's there's there's activity everywhere, there's energy everywhere.
We can't be alone, there's no way. But like I said,
it's like for this instance, for New Jersey, I just
think that it's like I.
Speaker 1: Just feel we're the verge of something. It could be ominous,
it could be amazing. We're in for something, and I
don't know what it is. Is it just me nop.
Speaker 4: It's like we're in the huge awakening phase. Sorry, Anthony,
he knows me. Anthony just smiles the knots because he
knows that. Like, once I'm on my tangent, I'm like, wow,
it's very like this is a big time of awakening.
And you know, it really did start around the twenty
twentieth time. People had to reevaluate what was important to
them and I feel like in that process they were
given more access to themselves and the self love and
what they needed to kind of unlock that intuition as well.
We put where our values changed as well. Right, So
when it came down to doing and feeling what's right
for ourselves and our families. It allowed us to feel
differently about these kind of circumstances. Absolutely agree with you.
I always say when some smells fishy, it usually is
if it does not seem right, it's like we're waiting
on another shoe to drop. And that's where I'm a
skeep in this, you know, and again like oh, this
is happening, I know, but what else is happening? I mean,
this person's been rather quiet. What's happening over there? Like
that's where I want to see the broader view because again,
being as comfortable in what I've been doing for my life,
it's the still I have children too, Like this is
the world that I want them to be safe in
as well. So what's going on?
Speaker 1: What age of your kids, Jessica, They're just little.
Speaker 4: I've got a three year old and a five year old.
My daughter is she's my youngest, and she's quite attached,
let's just say that. So she's very like attached to me.
But she did tell me this morning I'm her best friend,
So like, I can't be mad at that. I'm going
to charit even when she tells me she hates me.
When she's sixteen, I'll still remember I was her best
friend when she was three.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's nice to know, isn't it nice? Yeah, I'm
not happy. Note let's talk poultrygeist. Any experience of that phenomenon.
Speaker 4: Anthony, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Well, I suppose it's probably what is the term poultrygeist?
Is it? Is it to do with attracted to a
person like ghosts. It's hard to determine what is the
difference between the poltageist and the ghost. It's like that's
Kieran o'kiefas said, they're like Donny course within the school
of power psychology, and actually determining what is a politic
guist can be quite hard because it's because ghosts can
be attracted to people as well, and they can follow
people apparently as well. You know, poltar geist, I would say,
I don't know, it's hard to determine if we were
talking about if it's a ghost as well, yes, probably, yes.
I suppose it only gets termed or framed the poltar
geist when it comes up in the media and the newspapers.
And I suppose like these stories like with the Anfield
poltar geist, the battersy politic Guarists are very well known
cases and I suppose it's how people the media want
to portray it. But as in a poltergeist, yeah, it's
it's hard to determine whether we've come across people get
like an agent a host to some sort of ghost
or entity which would be are coined as a poltgeist.
Not really they you know, we don't usually as I
said in the past, we don't usually do house cases.
We actually put a charge on it just to stop
people actually getting free ghost hunts, and it is actually
a charge for actually people to go places. We live
in the southwestern and it's fine if probably if you're
the Midlands you can probably not charge. But we live
in the Southwest. If we were called up to say Antrium,
the north side of Antium, that's about a seven hour journey,
so it would cost money to get up there. We
would only cover cost. Obviously, we don't take any money
for if there was any cases. And as he said
eighty to the cases can be sold by just probably
talking to each other, if you chat, texting, emailing or
a phone call as well, and then then then it
could be sold by just doing a house call checking
the environment, the house, the rooms, the people interview them
then as well. You know, so with that respect, poltergeist
snub because the Irish media tends not to exploit it
that much, or they tend to not put as much
time into it as they did with the English newspapers.
They find it more fascinating as with history of past
politicalist activity cases.
Speaker 1: Great insight. Is there anything you guys don't know about?
Let me try on this one. Automatic writing? Have you
tried it?
Speaker 4: We do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 6: Automatic drawn because it is important to do that. You know,
when you're a teenager, you're at school, you're dubling, you're
half in and half out of a mindset. Who knows
what you're doing is that you've got the artistic form
of writing that that's part of connecting with the spirit world.
So yes, we do automatic writing, automatic drawn, and we
do do that as well as doing that as well.
Apart from that, you know, when you're in a dangeram state,
you know you might be coming out a voice of
a sound or a song that you know, or something
language dialogue that you use that you might have a
spirit coming into you as well. So you using that
piece of debonation is kind of good and an essential
part of paranormal investigating.
Speaker 1: Yes, we do do it, Okay, I do want to
talk about phantasm collective, right, That's why I'm actually here.
I have just been on the whole thing. But I'm
saving the best kind of to last. But I'm not
I'm not going there just yet. So you know, in
in Irish locations, historic locations, right, and I do love
this hands across the ocean thing because Canadian lady a
guy Anthony right, English, Irish whatever?
Speaker 5: Right, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what part of England though, would you have a
connection with Cheshire?
Speaker 5: Would be the place go crew?
Speaker 1: That's very civilized?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to get out that was
too civilized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look, just Irish locations, give me the one
that jumped out, if you pardon the pun. What Irish
location did you find the most active?
Speaker 4: I guess it was. It's interesting like for the ones
that we filmed for the series, yes, I took not
like a backseat role to some of them. There was
only one that I was able to kind of sit
in and you know, participate as a team member. What
was the name of the cinema, fires Gate friars Gate
Theater that's yeah, so that would be the one. I'm sorry,
what's the name of the town again? So yeah, the
friars Gate Theater. I felt, I mean again because I
was able to participate fully as a team member and
not as a co host. That was where I, you know,
was able to kind of what did you experience? Well,
I was one of the scriers, I guess in one
of the forms here.
Speaker 5: So that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, scrying is when you look in the mirror, is it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 4: There's a few different ways to scry, but I we
did the mirror this version.
Speaker 1: It was interesting again as spoiler spoiler, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to give anything away, you know,
like out of respect for you know, all the work
we put in and like Anthony and my oh god,
you should have gone first, Anthety, because then I would
have known.
Speaker 5: How much you should I have. That's not okay, Castle,
there was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh we've done like just in terms of the
did I do investigation argillan, But that wasn't for the series.
I was just thinking in terms of the series filming.
But yeah, like oh an investigations there, like I guess,
let's talk about art. Yeah, So yeah. Up in Dublin there.
That was fantastic. Okay, So I mean it was a
good ways away. It was a great environment. Number one,
when we got to the actual building that we got
to investigate, that was always better too. It's a funny
story there, but you know it's this rich heritage site.
My god, it was. It was fantastic and I felt
like that experiment for me was obviously very music based.
It was as great. I was able to really dig
in with my taro. Oh god, I really enjoyed it.
These investigations aren't very fearful for me, but again more
of like intriguing. I felt a buzz.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Taro there. Did you do tarot cards?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do Tarot. Taro's like one of my
main channels that I used Tarot and Oracle, but I
also do Taro's my man, with a little bit of
balance from Oracle.
Speaker 1: You do Taro on a daily basis. Some people just
sit down in the morning and take a card out
and go what's up?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 4: I I absolutely, I think if it suits too. Absolutely,
there was a time I would do like a weekly one.
I guess it has to fit the vibe, it has
to fit my intention for the day. I usually do weekly, weekly,
and sometimes it's just also host a podcasts. So we
typically do like a collective reading and that kind of
feels like the vibe for the past week or the
going into week. And then of course I do readings
for friendly friends.
Speaker 1: And whoever did you two guys ever sit down around
to wija board? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, now.
Speaker 4: No, well yes, I've had I feel like I've met
some amazing spirits and like friends through the spirit point
because I feel like it's like I would say if
my superpower, if I had a superpower, would be language,
because I want to I'm too damn nosy. I want
to talk to everybody if you couldn't tell. And I'm like,
oh my god, we met like Sarah, who's uh you
know when we were doing one of the Ouiji boards
up in Clarney here there was this now Sarah Reynolds
and I'm like, oh my god, my friend Sarah said,
that's my best friend's day back home, Like it's anyway,
I always find that if we make that connection, I'm
just like, I want to know everything. But I would
only do a Ouiji board or a talking board with
Anthony he knows that there's nobody else that I would
trust to open or close these sort of portals, because
I know I trust in Anthony is guidance and.
Speaker 6: That I do like I stay away from connecting on
the talking board. But I devised the questions, so we
have a set number of questions out of trying to
get information out that can be quite obscure, but relative
to that time. Now, we asked there we spir at
the Weight Museum now recently in County Waterford. We asked
the spirits need to be coming from the word that
came up. We asked you where your farm where you
came from? Was Montau that came up and the date
was run It was the eighteen sixties.
Speaker 5: Was it eighteen six Monto? Yeah, Monto.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was a notorious red light district.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well that yeah.
Speaker 6: This lady came from there and she was in this
apartment in the eight she gave the early eighteen I
was eighteen twenties she gave. We looked up then afterwards
there because I know the story sort of a Monta,
but I forget the dates where it were used. Yeah,
it was in operation from the eighteen twenties onwards. I
thought was actually much later than that, you know, but
I think there was somewhere called.
Speaker 1: Devil's Sorry, there was an area called Hell. Believe it
or not, I think, yeah, Hell. Apparently it was an
area in the Liberties.
Speaker 5: I think yeah.
Speaker 6: And I think that was just pre the Monto there, yes,
and so yeah, it's it's sort of we got a
year eighteen twenties and I was on the board. I
don't think Gen was on the board at that time either.
I think you may be my wife Jenna, But it
came across I forget the lady's name that came forward there,
but there was language used in it, like the word
neve came up on the board.
Speaker 5: The word that it came out as n I and
I be n I b h ne like so it's
like like like cow like you know, so nev.
Speaker 6: It was probably spelling out neve, I said to the ladder,
because they didn't know what it was spelling out.
Speaker 5: We asked, is it neve? And it's a yes, no.
Speaker 6: Now it could be just as you say, it could
the ideometer kind of a theory that you know, you're
unconsciously moving the plant chet. But then again, who's to
say if we are unconsciously moving the plant chet. Who's
to say that spirit is coming through unconsciously into us
or vice versa, using that energy to come forward. We're
using the talking board is a valuable tool and trying
to get the main information. And it's using it, it's
using everybody's like it's it's it's a group, it's a
it's a it's you use more than one person to
do it, you know.
Speaker 5: We should try and use it as a.
Speaker 6: Kind of like a bullet point between other bullet points
to find if there's any information that coincides with all
throughout the experiments we do. We do that four sessions
for experiments per investigation receive. I can find information from
each one of them that might correlate with their history
or background, or what might happen in the future, or
what's around the area.
Speaker 1: Right then, the best to last phantasm collective, your project,
your baby, tell us all about it and why people
should tune into it.
Speaker 5: I suppose I'll probably go into it. Yeah, we suppose.
Speaker 6: It's an idea that came upuly because I appeared on
Spoot Island on the Discovery Channel and I put a
script out to Discovery and National broadcasting station's arty in
Virgi Media now they declined it, so that's fine, you know,
because it's not meant for entertainment purposes. Each episode is
structured around either the spiritual or the occult or there's
one episode to the psychological physiological aspect. Another episode is
to do with environmental factors collecting data. So we're trying
to keep kind of spiritual and the scientific side and
the side which is the brain activity and the day
to collecting, the technical side all into these kind of
different episodes. There's no background music. There's not going to
be their influence in what is going to happen with
the activity. We're being in teams. We're being in experts
half through the show who give their evaluation on a
particular subject of the paranorl that we have been investigating
with or are concentrating on. But the cameras are stationary
and the lads from Deep Red Production Company they've got
good cameras four K, so it's in high definition and
standard definition as well. Is scripted in points because you
ask some seems you see me reading from a board
a clipboard. But when it comes to the investigation part,
that's when it's not scripted.
Speaker 5: That's when.
Speaker 6: The teams ourselves as well are calling out to the
spirit world for contact, trying to make contact, and then
we're delivering our information back of what we felt and
all that, what we hear and see, et cetera. People
that are going to be watching the show, we'll see
that there's a time clock in the corner and they
see how long the period of the investigation that session is. Yeah,
I hope it appeals to some people. Some people won't
appeal to if they're looking for the horror factor. There
is ghost hunting involved in it, but I wouldn't say
that there is much ghost hunting or through the episodes,
you know. So it's it's kind of it's one of
those things that are thought provoking kind of show which
we would probably hoping a lot of knowledge to people
that are interested in it and actually explaining the history
back on what the subjects are like. I will let
you into one of them. So the first one's going
to be about hypnotism, so we've got a hypnotist, Samuel
Lawrence with us. The second episode is going to be
about a knocha magic and squying, and we've got a
well respected person called Andy Mercer, who is a hypnotherapist
as well, who's got written books about an ocha magic.
He's going to be talking about that. And then we
have a member from the Society for Cycle Research, John
Fagi're coming on a third episode talking about ghost boxers.
So it's given people knowledge of what these experiments are
and how they derived from and how we can use
them and investigations.
Speaker 1: Good luck with it, because you deserve it. I agree.
Speaker 4: I want to add on to that that I think
this is a passion project of Anthony and his wife Jens.
I think that this is I said to him when
we were filming, like, this is your baby, and I
wanted to represent exactly what your vision was.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 4: He's had his hand in every every moment of this
process has been you know, the product of love from
Anthony and Jennifer. This is theirs, you know, and I'm
so excited to be a part of it, and I'm
glad that this could manifest for him.
Speaker 6: This is as well, like it's great sore just lovers
out there that Jessica came out to like Tiva being
a co host as well as well as that though
it's being in it's great to bring in teams like
Poker Paranormal with Pj's team and also with Rory, Roonica,
Eva and Leo. Give a shout out to them, Power
Pokavo Paranormal and also Power Girls Lisa, Emma, Serena and
Karen there it was it's great to bring these people
teams in and work with them as well. It's not
just about ourselves staying up, work with them and see
what we can get from visiting these places. And it's
great to give exposure to Ireland and actually put us
ahead in the worldwide blacket of paranormal investigators as well.
You know, we need to go underway, like the show
is going to be a cross between mostly you know,
if you've seen the TV program on Canny's going to
be towards that kind of nature, you know, but with
ghosts hunting involved in it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: So hopefully this appealed to a lot of people there
and it needs at the moment.
Speaker 1: It's going to succeed just by its very nature of
you doing it. I find that it's in you. You've
got to get that out. And now you've gone and
your your archive and it it's there the internet, you know,
last forever I just think it's great. I'm excited for
you guys.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, we tried to keep it real.
We tried to yeah, not there to there.
Speaker 6: It's like a proper investigation for people to watch, and
they can talk from midway through it as well as
our scenes where there's just strong footage in silence, so
people can converse with each other between scenes and say,
do you see that?
Speaker 5: You believe that? I don't really want it, But.
Speaker 6: It's that way that people can interacting between as well,
and it's keeping it real, so there's no bias bis them. Sure,
there's nobody being tricked into thinking because of scary music
in the background that there's something mega that's going to happen,
And there's nobody putting words on the screen to determine
what comes up on an e VP as well. There
is words that come up on the screen at stages
there people are watching it, and that's to do with
a transcription experiment that we have running up, and it's
just show what it came up with the software. What
came up with the transcription software, which is ai version
of monitoring what voice has come over ghost boxers and
all that kind of stuff. Calling out session, so it's
instead was interurbid to it. We let i AI do it.
And there's a good company called s AI that let
us use the software. So big shout out to them
as well, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Add a big shout to on explained Dot I E
who are a big Yeah, Adam and Cole.
Speaker 6: Adam is a very good he's a great, great person.
He's a and I hope you know the unexplained eye
channel goes even further across globally. They you know, he's
a great he's a great ambassador for the Irish paranormal
scene as well. Send yourself there and thank you for
interviewings as well.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for indulging me. You're looking
great by the way, the two of you. I know
you can't see my ugly mug, but you are you
looking Yeah, you're looking lovely, Jessica, in your in your
in your hoodie, I mean like my the sweater.
Speaker 4: And I hope you're not for releasing a video because look,
you're fine, and I have a I have a face
and a head of hair for radio today. If you
wonder if you're if you're if you have.
Speaker 1: Any just well I've had a face for radio for
many years, which is why I'm not displaying mine.
Speaker 2: Oh how we laughed.
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the Squire on Scary Era aka David McGlenn reading an
excerpt from Kiron Fannings recently published Haunted Island, available on
nine and in all Good bookstores. Torrilora basket Case.
Speaker 9: One night, sometime in the nineteenth century, as the moon
shone down on the townland of Rhen, turning the water
of luck Lean into a silver and mirror, Tim Shay
sat on a rock by the water's edge, keeping an
eye on Jack Loney's cattle. Defenses that were supposed to
be keeping the min had more holes in them than
the devil's confession, and these parts are often frequented by
cattle stealers who rubbed the color out of your tay.
He scanned the field of cattle for the one hundredth time,
and when he was sure there was not in the
miss His eyes drifted to the glassy lake beside him
that everyone said was haunted. He was well aware that
it was after midnight, so technically it was May Day,
the day when every seventh year, the spirit of Chieftain
o'donahu Moore rose from the lake. What nobody seemed to
remember was when the ghost had last appeared, so nobody
knew exactly on which May Day it would return. Although
it was considered good luck to see the ghost, Tim
could do without that sort of stress on his heart.
He tried to distract himself by thinking about his home
team's upcoming football match. He lived and breathed football, so
it was a good topic to distract himself with. His thoughts, however,
were interrupted by the faint plucking of harp strings drifting
across the lock on the breeze, drawing his attention to
a part of the lake where the waters were suddenly
charning violently with white, moonlike crested waves, while elsewhere the
surface was as still as a tomb of polished marble.
Before Tim's eyes, a milk white war horse rode out
of the lake with a stately warrior on its beck,
who kicked the steed into a trot. Behind the animal,
a train of young maidens wearing garlands of flowers emerged
from beneath the water and began dancing to the enchanted
music that now filled the air. As the horse came closer,
the moonlight linted on the rider's sword, but also in
his eyes, which for firmly fixed on Tim, who knew
it was too late to hide.
Speaker 2: Are you ten?
Speaker 9: Shall the barrier called out? Tim nodded nervously. The horse's
hooves magically trotted across the surface of the lake, kicking
up splashes of moonlit spray.
Speaker 2: I am o'donna, who more called the chieftain, and I'd
like you to send a message for me again.
Speaker 9: All Tim could do was not He couldn't exactly say
no to ghost with as much steel in its eye
as it had in its sword. When the horse reached
the shore, the knight hopped down from his saddle. Now
that they were up close, Tim realized that the horse
and rider weren't as solid as he thought. They seemed
to be made of swirling white and mist. Tim could
seize straight through their bodies to where the maidens continued
to cavort in the center of the lake.
Speaker 2: I want you to deliver this letter to the County
of Waterford.
Speaker 9: Said Odonaho, handing him a scroll of yellowed parchment. But
I have to mind the kettle.
Speaker 2: I'll mind them till you come back.
Speaker 9: But I don't know the way to Waterford, said Tim,
trying to get out of the Errand sure, sure, I've
never been further eastern Dinney Cornan's cow house.
Speaker 2: I'll lend you Copplebond, he knows the way.
Speaker 9: Odonaho handed over the reins of his horse. Tim looked
the animal up and down, marveling at its silver shoes,
gold stirrups, and the little bells on its bridle that
jingled when it moved. Tentatively, he placed his foot in
the steer. He'd only ever been on a horse once
or twice, and never on one like this. He was
about to pull himself up when he felt Odana, who
shove his backside up into the saddle.
Speaker 2: When you come to the big castle, give the letter
to the first person you see and bring me back,
a reply.
Speaker 9: Commanded the ghost. Does the castle have a name, asked him,
Because I'm fairly sure Waterford is.
Speaker 2: Full of castles, couple Bond knows the castle.
Speaker 9: Now hold on tight, said o'danaho, slapping the horse's rear.
The animal took off like the wind. All poor Tim
Shake could do was hold on for dear life. As
they raced across field and mountainside, hurdling rivers and dishes
with ease. Tim couldn't understand why he hadn't fallen to
the ground. Riding a horse made of smoke, at times
he felt like he was sitting on a storm cloud.
Through barreduff, mallow and bally hooly. They flew until they
reached the sweet County of Waterford, but still the animal
didn't stop. Over mash and meadow, they swept until they
came to the coast. Even as they approached high cliffs,
the animal didn't slow, and Tim was sure he was
destined for his salty grave. But he couldn't get off.
All he could do was screaming terror as the horse
launched itself off the cliffs and sailed through the air
before landing in the dark ocean with a mighty splash. Now,
like many irishmen, Tim couldn't swim, so he didn't even try.
He just waited for the seawater to fill his lungs
and take him to meet his maker. However, something stranger
than that happened. Couple Bonds sank under the waves and
continued to gallop along the seabed, turning up sand and
shells with its hooves. It seemed to have no trouble
breathing underwater, and neither did him. He inhaled mouthfuls of
water and blew out streams of air bubbles, just like
the shoals of tiny fish all around him. In the
murky underwater gloom, Tim could make out a magnificent castle
in front of him, and for the first time since
he'd mounted the horse, he felt it slowing down, eventually
coming to a halt at the castle door. Copple Bond
glanced back at its jockey as if to say, what
are you waiting for? Tim hopped down and pitifully half swam,
half stumbled to the door and knocked on it. A
lady answered her ball gown was so elegant that she
must have once been a princess, but now she was
little more than a corpse. Instead of eyes, two cavernous
black holes stared out of a skull partially covered in
shriveled skin, bone and teeth could be seen where the
torn skin had peeled away like bark on a tree.
A few wisps of gray hair floated like seaweed about her.
Otherwise bald head. Tim was in such a staitus shock
that he forgot to hand over the letter, But the
lady whipped it from his hand anyway, as if she'd
been expecting it. She unrolled it, read the contents, and laughed.
Then she produced a quill, dipped its nib into her
eye socket, and brought it back out, dripping with ink.
Using the door as a writing surface, she scribbled the reply,
then rolled up the parchment in returned it to Tim.
He was about to ask her what this was all about,
but she closed the door in his face. Dead people
have no manners, he thought. When he looked around, he
saw a capple band with the same what are you
waiting for? Look on its face. Dead animals aren't much better.
Curious about the letter in his hand, Tim knew that
if he didn't look at it now, he wouldn't get
another chance. So he unrolled the parchment. O'donnah who had written?
Speaker 2: Are you ready to do battle?
Speaker 9: The ink and the reply was still wet. We'll be
there before you've finished reading. This was o'donnaugh who organized
in a war against this underwater kingdom. Conscious the time
seemed to be of the essence. Tim put the letter
in his pocket and slimbed down to Capital Bond's back.
As he suspected, the horse took off immediately across the seabed.
When it had gone up enough speed, it began ascending
until it broke through the surface, where the morning sun
had colored the sky red and gold. Across the waves,
they charged until he reached the Sandy Beach. From there
they retraced their steps through Cork and into the Kingdom
of Kirey, through Gordenahan, by East Derry Lee and knocking Nimrish.
They flew until they reached Killerne and beyond it Lac Lane,
where o'donaho waited. When Capel Bahn came to a standstill,
Tim handed over the letter, which o'donaho read with his
smile on his lips. How could anybody be happy about
going to war? Thought Tim, But of course he didn't
verbialize his concerns, because that would be to admit he'd
read the letter.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tim, Shay, said.
Speaker 9: O'donaho, taking the reins of Capel Barn. You have been
most helpful, and for that I will reward you. It
would be enough of a reward to leave me in peace,
thought Tim, for he'd had his fill of ghosts and
magic horses and under water castles. But of course he
didn't say any of this. I believe you like your games,
Tim Shay asked o'donaho football and hurling football, Ma, the
phantom chief looked disappointed.
Speaker 2: Not hurling. It's a far superior game.
Speaker 9: Not in a kaindom is not, replied Tim proudly. O'donaho
copped his ear at some distant sound. I hear the
water for team coming. How would you like to see
the greatest hurling match of your life? Believe there wasn't
going to be a war, Tim nodded. You can stay
to watch, Tim Shay, if you promise not to speak.
I promise, said Tim.
Speaker 2: I'm serious, warned O'donaho. Don't let a word out of
your two lips, or you'll sup sorrow again.
Speaker 9: Tim nodded, an easy price to pay o'donah, who rode
his horse back out into the middle of the lake
where the flower clad maidens waited, and they all disappeared
beneath the surface. There was a moment's silence before the
sound of shouting rolled across the water, followed by hurlers
pucking a ball to each other. The water her team,
thought Tim. When they got closer, he saw they were
the ghosts like O'donaho, but skeletal in appearance like the
lay from the underwater castle. They skipped across the waves,
passing the slither from hurley to bony hand. One particular player,
with a cracked skull as a head, was charging ahead
of the pack with the ball balanced skillfully on the
end of his hurley, when a figure burst from under
the water, opending him and stealing the ball. It was
o'donaho himself, with a hurley instead of a sword and
dressed as a kerry herder instead of a knight. The
rest of his team also exploded from beneath the waves
and collided with the water for players. Tim lost sight
of the ball in the kerfuffle, but then o'donna who
emerged with it and pucked it high towards Waterford's side
of the lake. When it landed on the shore, the
kerry players cheered, So that must be a score in
ghost hurling, thought Tim. Waterford counterattacked with a vengeance, flicking
the ball from player to player until they were close
enough to shoot and land the ball on Kerry's shore level,
thought Tim, His eyes glued to the strangest game of
hurling he'd ever seen. As the game progressed, Waterford got
the upper hand and went into a considerable lead. O'donahue
and his team seemed to lack the energy of their opponents.
Tim got so caught up in the match that he
forgot about o'donnaugh who's warning. He never was one for
sitting quietly on the sideline anyway, And now he stood
on his lake side rock and roared at the carry
team thunder and turf, o'dnaho, what kind of hurlers are ye?
Take off those carry jerseys? Because he heard disgrace to
the kingdom. Play on the lake suddenly stopped, and the
ghost hurlers all turned to look at him, as if
noticing him for the first time. He held up his
palms in apology at o'donoho, who merely shook his head
with disappointment. One of the water For team, a huge,
ugly skeleton with only half a face, lumbered across the
water towards the mortal who had interrupted the game.
Speaker 2: Tim thought he.
Speaker 9: Would get a tell enough, but instead he got a
whack of a hurley on the head, knocking him out cold.
When he came to it was morning and the ghost
hurlers of Rhen were gone. A gray mist kept across
the lake and on to the shore. Cattle grazed quietly.
Tim Shay never sat up watching Jack Looney's cattle again,
and he always made sure to steal weldlier of luck
Lean on May Day. He was annoyed that nobody believed
this story about the ghostly hurling match, but he was
more annoyed that Kerry had been beaten. Be better at
football anyway, he muttered to himself.
Speaker 1: Now next week I'm dedicating the first part of the
show to one of Cork's best paranormal investigators, Matthew Clarke
of Cork's Paranormal Society. Luk at you, here's a taste
of what you went for. When did you first get
interested in the paranormal?
Speaker 10: It would have been when I was about seven OA
twenty seven twenty up twenty years ago. Me and my
sister were as a place locally to where we live
called the Nanoagle Cemetery and it's a convent. At the
time it was still in use as a convent and
you could walk around the cemetery, which we did. We
were in one summer's day and we've been in there
but now also just as we were leaving, we were
kind of going towards the convent building and we could
see smoke in one of the windows and we kind
of went over to have a look at that investigated.
We were there for two or three minutes. The smoke
kind of developed into a human shape. I'll never forget
to see in the figure, the arms, particularly just so
cleare developed into a human shape. And then I remember
there was an older couple who were in the cemetery
as well, and they thought as well from that moment
and where it was fascinated with the paran armand we
used to walk every day for years. We used to
go in there, but never saw anything like that again,
But that's kind of how it started over.
Speaker 1: To County Golway. Now, for part two of our chat
with Philip Costello of Paranormal Awakenings Ireland, I asked him
to describe Ross Harley Abby a recent investigation of his.
Speaker 8: This would have been a place that had a lot
of monks that had stayed in us would have taken
in a lot of poor people to try and see
them and stuff. And of course it had been raided
by the Cromwell Army on a number of occasions and
a lot of monks and with them would have been
killed there. It has a dark side to it as
well because of that. I remember reading a story that
someone had gone to their monastery and had seen bodies
or the bones of bodies just scattered around the place
at one point, and even bones put into the window
sills with the grass grown in through the skulls and
in through the bones. That made a very eerie sort
of a place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ominous and timidating.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So we went down to have a look and
to have a wander around. It's an absolutely gorgeous spot.
It's an interesting spot. There's there's an old fisher fishermen
a hole where they used to keep the fish as
it's side the river, and the monks used to keep
all the fish that they caught there to be able
to feed the people living in the monastery at the time.
Speaker 1: Right, do you know what the Order of monks. These
were not off hands, no, and any EVPs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, PJ had got one that says Jesus help us.
While he was walking around, he was just talking about
the all guttering and stuff that would have been able
to gather water at the place. I think sorry, it
would have been the Franciscans. I believe that were the
most that were there at the time, and he got
that VP there. Again, it's only when you go back
to looking at these things, are listening to them that
you realize you got something. So it's possible that it
was a monk that might have been praying or monk
that was killed, we don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, begging for his life against the Cromwell's troops.
Speaker 8: Probably absolutely, yeah, I mean there was there was dormitories there,
there was you know, bakehouses, dining areas, the monastery itself,
the church. I'm sure there would have been graveyard there
at the time. You know, it's it's absolutely huge, huge
area and again it's a National monument in Ireland that's
maintained and looked after quite well as well. But it
would have been it's about the thirteen hundreds thirteen fifties
area they reckon it was established, you know, and it
still has a fine structure and walls and stuff there today.
Speaker 1: We really have tombstones that are older than some countries.
Histories in Ireland were spoiled.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a younger man than I am. Do you
remember the go Away Baby case?
Speaker 8: Vaguely? Yes. The story that I heard is that a
priest had a baby with a woman and the baby
I think was murdered or in the house, or was
buried in the foundation the house, something of that nature,
and when this family had moved in and their baby
was in, it ended up causing a lot of disturbances
and the bolt issed activity. Yes, from this, I think
there was a book and all written about it as
well at one stage, Oh there was.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what was done.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 1: I think it was dramatized, you know, by either a
Canadian or an American company. The accents were a trot.
They were real bit dorapy. Oh yes, strap the pig
and rolled me in the mud. What the hell is
happening there now? Micheline was awful.
Speaker 8: I don't know why it's always predicted that way. It
be sure. They were so bad.
Speaker 2: They were just.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom Cruise was like Lord Olivier compared to
them with his Irish accent. You know, these were really metallic,
awful things. We're speaking to Philip Costello of Paranormal Awakenings Ireland.
And Philip, you were talking to me earlier. You mentioned
a castle to.
Speaker 8: Me, Lacking Castle, Tipperary was an interesting visit. It's have
you ever heard of a pooka or a pooker?
Speaker 5: Is it the devil?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 1: Or there's a few paranormal just to at least I'm
aware of called pooka. One is Pooka Vogue run by PJ. Sullivan,
lovely guy. And there's another one Pooka paranormal.
Speaker 8: The pooker would be a shape shifter, Yeah, deviant Irish mythology.
It's known as a shape shift or a fairy, mysterious
fairy that can cause you know, mischievous bits and bobs.
Has the history with the Lacking Castle, which would have
been owned by the O'Kennedy clan, which actually would be
ancestors of O'Kennedy, the President Kennedy in America.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that I thought they
were Waxford people, but anyway, it's not it's a stone
strow anyway, Tipperary one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, apparently they have relations. These O'Kennedy clan would have
been had, you know, ties with the President Kennedy from
what I had read in the history. But with this site,
the poker was known to be around this area, and
the legend goes that like there was an old hag
that was stealing from dead bodies and when the o'kennedy's
seen it, he he tried to chase her away and
she ended up calling upon this pooker protector. So when
the pooker came face faced with the the Kennedy fella
with fiery red eyes and fiery nostrils a scary sight.
But the O'Kennedy fellow was no pushover, and he was
quite a good fighter and quite strong willed. Was said
to have captured this pooker and he was brought back
to Lacking Castle. And then as the door was open,
one of the servants said, please don't bring him in here,
you'll bring misery and chaos upon yourself. But he captured
the broker and they tied him up and he kept
him in the castle. Now, long story short, himself and
the broker came to an agreement that he'd release him
on a promise that he would never harm or hurt
any the Kennedy family, and he was released. But the
story is that the poker is still known to be
around that castle today. And once when we were there
at night, we came across the photo that we had
taken of a very massive, tall figure in a window.
Very tall figure. We're not sure what it was, but
if we reckon, it could have been this poker looking
at us from this from this window sill. And we
actually had the picture on our Facebook page as well.
Speaker 1: I saw it a section where there's three of them
and one of them is kind of colored. Yeah, yeah,
that's weird. Al Right, I've seen it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that would have been one of the things that
we had found at that castle. But we also had
an EVP there of help me coming from one of
the hallways of the castle. It was a male voice,
but it was like a whispery male voice helped me.
So we don't know was it a soldier, was it
a servant. Was there someone that was living there, But
it was a really interesting catch because we were going wrong.
We thought, Okay, it's quiet, it's cold, nothing's happening here.
We're not going to get anything. But when we look
back with PJ had caught this, help me set up.
Speaker 1: Tell me the most paranormally at a place you've ever been.
Speaker 8: It's hard to say. I'd have to say, left castle.
Speaker 1: Join the club, go on, what did you experience that?
Speaker 8: Well, my first ever time would have been my first
ever time here and tapping, you know, And again I
go back to the most all to think where I've
heard it on TV or on on shows where you'd
hear they're like pits if there's someone there in the background,
tap of the wall or something. When we were in
the in the castle, we experienced it ourselves, myself another
guy at the time, and we felt it under our feet.
It was the strangest thing. It was like someone with
their finger top tapping the bottom of your shoe. And
it was loud, and we actually got recordings of this
tappen because we were asking questions and we're asking about
did you want to harm the female that was in
the group, and the tapping was going nuts, and that
would have been my first time we were hearing that,
and it was it was interesting and it was yet
a little eerie at the same time, we thought it
was absolutely amazed. We couldn't believe what we were here
because we had a little microphone as well that we've
put onto the ground to try and make to capture
it even better. But with our own ears, you could physically,
you could physically hear this happened coming from the ground.
And the ceilings in left Castle are not one where
you start bating it from a stick down below. You know,
shit wanted an awful mighty big stick. But that's just
one thing that would stand a lot for me, and
you know another one would be in the Bloody Castle.
In the Bloody Chapel. Sorry, I've left castle.
Speaker 1: This is where the murder took place. The brother killed
the priest brother something like that.
Speaker 8: One brother wanted to take take over and he stabbed
his his priest brother in the back in the middle
of mass given the name the Bloody Chapel.
Speaker 1: Blood chap.
Speaker 8: Can't be. But we were doing an a VP session
there and as we were doing it, stone started getting
thrown down at us and we were like, okay, what
the hell is going on here? And we wreck and
it was the brother that had start. Sorry, Tig, I
believe his name was that was thrown the stuff down
at us because again Peter got punped in the back
earlier that night as well. And it would have been
in the same side that was said that the priests
had been stabbed in, which is very strange. There would
have been two things from there that we would stand
out for us.
Speaker 1: That's where we leave it with Philip from Paranormal Awakenings Ireland.
Remember you can hear a more extensive interview with him
on show number six of Scary Era, the previous one
to this one, and you can check out all their
pictures and EVPs on both Facebook and Instagram Paranormal Awakenings Ireland.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, a couple of things over the years. But
I've learned, well I don't I suppose it's not learned.
I've just become accustomed to it. And I think it's
kind of it's it's maybe it's another sense or something.
But often when you go into places, you will get
a feeling for the place and you'll get a feeling
of whether or not it's comfortable and whatever cause is that.
Speaker 2: Who knows what causes that.
Speaker 11: But we have an intuition, we have an inbuilt intuition.
I can't describe what it is or where it comes from,
or the physics of it or the chemistry of it,
but it's there, and anybody will tell you to stick
with your intuition. If you think something doesn't feel right,
then don't hang around.
Speaker 7: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn
aka the Squire, and don't hang around either. If you've
got an Irish paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal
Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.
Speaker 1: This is Mark Manning from Scary Era saying goodbye, thanks
to all our contributors. Goodbye, my darlings. Take care because
I care.