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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Tuesday's show of ut
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Speaker 2: Steve Rivera.
Speaker 3: I got Dave Silver with me in the studio.
Speaker 2: I am here and I'm running the show, so expect
Speaker 2: the unexpected.
Speaker 3: Our microphones are on.
Speaker 2: That's good, we're yes, we're working. Hey, I've gotten better
Speaker 2: at this.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 2: That's good because we have no choice but for me
Speaker 2: to get better at this. Young guys are out today tomorrow. Uh,
Speaker 2: so we got this show going on. Luck to talk
Speaker 2: about Dave. You've been out for a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's been kind of an interesting few
Speaker 4: days with the NBA Finals wrapping up, So that was
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys talked exensively about that yesterday, but
Speaker 4: certainly that was kind of the highlight of this part
Speaker 4: of the summer, and so that's kind of the dead
Speaker 4: part of summer was kind of upon us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is tough for me because I have a
Speaker 2: hard time finding people. I had one of your not
Speaker 2: a colleague of yours, but the same kind of business
Speaker 2: you're in with Jennifer, I think yesterday. And it's just
Speaker 2: how difficult it is to find stories this time of year.
Speaker 2: But you get the off stories. You don't have to
Speaker 2: do the sports stories, right, not that you have to
Speaker 2: do it before, but you find the off off the
Speaker 2: cuugh stories.
Speaker 4: We used to have a lot of fun with those
Speaker 4: kinds of stories too, because those are stories maybe you
Speaker 4: would not have time to do in the heart of
Speaker 4: the football and basketball seasons in a town like this,
Speaker 4: So you kind of put those stories to the side.
Speaker 4: You think about it and say, hey, you know, why
Speaker 4: don't I contact this person. Let's do something a little
Speaker 4: bit different. So that's kind of what the summers were
Speaker 4: always about.
Speaker 3: Off the top of your head. Do you remember any
Speaker 3: of those stories?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, they weren't too memorable.
Speaker 2: You were, well, it's been a while, but you you
Speaker 2: must have been a whiz at this.
Speaker 4: I mean, let me go back and look. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know a lot of little league things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you say that. My one of my
Speaker 2: favorite was like back then, it was like the twenty
Speaker 2: fifth year of them going to the Williams Sport and
Speaker 2: the kids of seventy whatever it was, eighty whatever it was,
Speaker 2: and they still had their vhas VHS tapes, and and
Speaker 2: we ran those and I did the stories on most
Speaker 2: of the kids that are still around, and maybe a
Speaker 2: coach or two had already passed.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: It was also good. Again, it doesn't really exist now.
Speaker 4: In the same form was this Tucson Summer Pro League.
Speaker 4: And that would kick in like in July usually or whatever.
Speaker 4: Right now, I guess it's going when when they, yeah,
Speaker 4: the guys would come Wildcats would be playing, or the
Speaker 4: recruit would be coming in, or some you know, veteran
Speaker 4: player would come back this summer.
Speaker 2: Those were great stories to have, you know, stuck right
Speaker 2: in the middle, especially when they went at each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know Richard's in the U and the Marcus Williams
Speaker 2: and the Jason Terry, Jason Terry and uh and Chris
Speaker 2: Rogers and those guys who just you know didn't want
Speaker 2: to back down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they would come back. They would stick
Speaker 4: around for the summer. Things were different. I guess in
Speaker 4: those years they didn't have places to go or they
Speaker 4: didn't need to be back, but they would do summer
Speaker 4: school or just to kind of stay around Tucson and
Speaker 4: then they would play.
Speaker 3: So those are a good summertimes story.
Speaker 2: I used to joke about this because Marcus was coming
Speaker 2: back for his sophomore year and he'd score like forty
Speaker 2: five a game and blah blah blah. And I used
Speaker 2: to get email saying, how come he can do that?
Speaker 2: I hope he does that in the regular season, ma'am.
Speaker 2: He's playing against nobody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing against some forty year old guy played
Speaker 4: you know, high school basketball twenty years.
Speaker 2: Ago, right right, You'll be lucky to get fifteen from him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And and and that's what he did every now, and
Speaker 2: he scored, scored, But yeah, there was kind of false expectations.
Speaker 3: It was fun though it was.
Speaker 4: It was a fun when it When it first started,
Speaker 4: I think they were playing at the JCC.
Speaker 3: They would get you know, actually some people to come
Speaker 3: out and watch.
Speaker 4: And then eventually I think it evolved and moved around
Speaker 4: to some different increations a great Gregory school, but back
Speaker 4: in the day it was it was kind of cool
Speaker 4: when all of a sudden, you know, hey, it's you'd
Speaker 4: get the phone call like at you know, four o'clock, Hey,
Speaker 4: I heard that you know, Richard Jefferson is going to
Speaker 4: show up and play play tonight.
Speaker 3: We would just you know, send the cameras out.
Speaker 2: Don't forget about TM USA two baseball that summer, the
Speaker 2: summers when they have the headquarters here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a lot of Olympic program whatever it
Speaker 4: was a USA Baseball program.
Speaker 3: Jerry Kendall was coaching.
Speaker 2: And you get a lot of the sons of the
Speaker 2: at the time, uh, the big the big wigs, you know,
Speaker 2: back in the back of the day. The Suns would
Speaker 2: come through your fourteen fifteen year old kids. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that was fun.
Speaker 4: I think we talked about this once before, but I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure Fernando of Alanzuela brought to like Team Mexico
Speaker 4: here to.
Speaker 3: Play exhibition games.
Speaker 4: So maybe it was around high Corbette and Jerry Kendall
Speaker 4: and you know Fernando was, oh yeah, I think you
Speaker 4: did ten fifteen years from his last games. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: he was here. People knew him. People want to come
Speaker 4: out and you know, get his autograph.
Speaker 2: And stuff and think he was accommodating too, wasn't he.
Speaker 2: It was right, well, the good old days. Now it's
Speaker 2: like it's too hot out of here.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the other problem is, you know, you have
Speaker 4: to kind of base those stories either one being really
Speaker 4: super early in the morning or later later at night
Speaker 4: or indoors. So you know, we weren't going to run
Speaker 4: out there, and I mean there was some there was
Speaker 4: some stories worth covering.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well the staple was the t on toros in the sidewin,
Speaker 2: right for all those years. You get your cameras out
Speaker 2: there for an inning or two and then get the call,
Speaker 2: yeah they're still playing. There's ten twenty five and they're
Speaker 2: still played. Yeah, extra eighties or we would we would do.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you guys probably did sort of the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: We would do interviews before the game and use that
Speaker 4: as our coverage and then oh, by the way, here's
Speaker 4: you know, twenty five seconds worth of highlights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in the afternoon paper.
Speaker 2: What's what we did, you know, find a feature, do
Speaker 2: the interviews right during the stort, right during the game,
Speaker 2: and then just sticking the the score. Yeah, oh by
Speaker 2: the way, because you know what, most didn't care about
Speaker 2: the outcome. They're there to have fun, no, yeah, and
Speaker 2: get an update on maybe a player too, especially when
Speaker 2: they're coming down or movie no, I was gonna say
Speaker 2: that happened.
Speaker 4: You know, at least a few times every season there
Speaker 4: be Ricky Henderson I remember showed up one time or
Speaker 4: the Kurt Schilling and Randy Johnson both came down here
Speaker 4: for rehab assignments.
Speaker 3: With the hope that they would talk, and they usually
Speaker 3: were pretty good.
Speaker 4: I think they understood, you know, they weren't being going
Speaker 4: to be outed by you know, ten people. It would
Speaker 4: be like two TV stations and one newspaper guy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it'd be it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have a confrontation with any of them? Confrontation?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was when I first started, always on a
Speaker 2: twenty three year old, and it was tough the first
Speaker 2: year or so, trying the guy's trying to bully you
Speaker 2: and trying to you know, yeah, yeah, trying to you know,
Speaker 2: just bully you.
Speaker 4: I used to not be super aggressive. I mean I
Speaker 4: kind of just flung to the side. I think most
Speaker 4: of us did because we didn't really know. I mean,
Speaker 4: they would be quote unquote, you know, focused on whatever
Speaker 4: they needed to do, and they finish hitting and they
Speaker 4: start walking away, and you're like, this is a good
Speaker 4: time to grab you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not quite sure that the right time, or
Speaker 3: I'll get you later. It's always a good good I
Speaker 3: gotta go get a sandwich. I'm still waiting for Ryan
Speaker 3: Samberg to finish the sandwich in the clubhouse. I'll be back,
Speaker 3: I'll be back. Okay, the game starts never came out.
Speaker 2: We kind of stipp be the most was not in baseball,
Speaker 2: but this was basketball when the Lucas coach Lucas when
Speaker 2: he coached the Spurs, I want to see us, but
Speaker 2: John Lucas, when you cook, yeah, you know, they usually
Speaker 2: have time before the games to talk to them because
Speaker 2: you know they're and he kind of ducks me for
Speaker 2: a few I was following them around the court eventually
Speaker 2: and we ran out of time.
Speaker 3: And it was like this guy, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a simple, simple, just a quick you know,
Speaker 2: get a couple of quick qutes for your story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's about Sean at the time, and it was, oh,
Speaker 2: it was like, come on, I'm not asking, you know,
Speaker 2: for the recipe for for whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean we you and I both kind
Speaker 4: of complained about access and how it's different now than
Speaker 4: it was. But at least, now, don't they have to
Speaker 4: do like some kind of pregame news conference at least
Speaker 4: the NBA coaches.
Speaker 3: Like oh yeah, yeah, they do.
Speaker 6: They and they do.
Speaker 2: They open the locker rooms like ninety minutes before the
Speaker 2: game game okay, oh yeah, yeah, those are staples. Again,
Speaker 2: they have to agree to say yes to you. But
Speaker 2: they do bring the coaches in to get you know,
Speaker 2: early work in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes Steve Kurr's best moments are in those
Speaker 4: pregame news conferences. Yeah, they ask him things and maybe
Speaker 4: yeah stuff. It's not pertin into the game itself, which
Speaker 4: is something else is going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well to your points to fill the notebook before
Speaker 2: the deadline comes later, because that'll be replaced or become
Speaker 2: the sidebar later in the night.
Speaker 3: But now deadlines are so screwy, you know.
Speaker 2: Like are they even deadlines anyway? Well, well, for the
Speaker 2: Star and I'm not giving away secrets. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think you're probably on deadline right now four o'clock for
Speaker 2: tomorrow's paper. But it's the internet that's twenty four to seven. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: Once you come up with something, you put it on
Speaker 2: and you're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was at the tail end of all that when
Speaker 2: I finished in two thousand and nine, I think when
Speaker 2: Luke was going.
Speaker 3: Through his his his illness, the end of his time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for us it was And that was
Speaker 4: always kind of bothered me too, is that we would
Speaker 4: put stories on the Internet before they even hit the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a lot right right. You're breaking your
Speaker 2: own stuff if you broke yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, though, that was very odd, but you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if that actually worked. You know, people are
Speaker 2: going to jump on the Internet and say what does
Speaker 2: Dave have or what Steve edge?
Speaker 6: It is? What it is?
Speaker 4: I mean back then it was so new things like
Speaker 4: Twitter and Facebook and things like that that I was
Speaker 4: just kind of getting used to myself. And then next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, the TV stations all over the place are
Speaker 4: like putting their stories on you know, long before the Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know what I'm I don't even do
Speaker 2: much Twitter. I just don't like it. It's a bunch
Speaker 2: of crap, you know, people fighting with each other about
Speaker 2: stupid stuff. Uh so I just do it on Facebook.
Speaker 2: That's not and that's not it's a world. It's a
Speaker 2: different audience. It's older audience. You know they don't get
Speaker 2: into it, but Twitter is like crazy, you know, anybody
Speaker 2: from everywhere. It's just kind of talking. You just never
Speaker 2: know who these people are. That's the whole thing. I
Speaker 2: told you one time, just recently a year ors so ago. Uh,
Speaker 2: someone created a fake Facebook page and sent me a note.
Speaker 3: How came you always on?
Speaker 2: How come you always so negative with Tommy, Tommy Lloyd,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking what? So I had to go and see
Speaker 2: if this guy was a fake fake profile profile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a sense of who it might be.
Speaker 3: It might have been. I said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, you always I.
Speaker 2: Said, please breve it, go find it where because it's
Speaker 2: not true. He left me alone, and then he kind
Speaker 2: of sent me a note later on, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: go away a bunch of fake stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a problem on that old Internet.
Speaker 4: You never quite sure if these people are real, where
Speaker 4: they're coming from.
Speaker 3: There's you know, there's stories about that as well. I
Speaker 3: can look that up.
Speaker 2: So Tommy stopped sending me those notes. No, he could
Speaker 2: care less, but yeah, it was just kind of strange.
Speaker 2: So today Tommy had no Dave, Dave Silver, We're gonna
Speaker 2: have the coach the manager of the Tucson Squirrels.
Speaker 3: Last week we talked to one of the players. It
Speaker 3: was good. They're very good this year.
Speaker 2: I think they were sixteen and four when we talked
Speaker 2: to the baseball player.
Speaker 3: I think they won a game or two, so they
Speaker 3: might be better than that. Now.
Speaker 2: His name is Sean McNeil. I'll see how long he's
Speaker 2: been with them. They won three titles of the Pequos League.
Speaker 2: So he's gonna call us about three eighteen in about
Speaker 2: seven minutes, and then at four seventeen about we're gonna
Speaker 2: have the good friend Doug Holler with the Athletic, who
Speaker 2: covers the Phoenix area for the Athletic and he's covering
Speaker 2: the Suns when I've talked to him about the big
Speaker 2: trade one. How's the city kind of dealing with that?
Speaker 2: I think they their time is coming gone with Durant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he was.
Speaker 2: It was the honeymoon. It's a honeymoon everywhere.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So one of my buddies sent me his his profile,
Speaker 2: not his, but Durant's profile. All the uniforms he's worn
Speaker 2: in the last whatever. He's like j Lo of the NBA. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got every uniform now a new one. He's bounced around,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. What is He's thirty seven now, so
Speaker 2: I don't know how many teams is good. Like you said,
Speaker 2: he's got to be what five, five or sixteen?
Speaker 3: Oh more than I think I have to count at least.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been an interesting run for him, and
Speaker 4: you know, he seems to get to a place and
Speaker 4: he's happy with it for about a year or so,
Speaker 4: and then by year two the comments started coming out
Speaker 4: to get moved, and you know now they're now the
Speaker 4: Suns are talking about blowing everything up, getting rid of
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal as well. They want to build everything around
Speaker 4: Devin Booker, which they tried already once before. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean the whole DeAndre Ayton thing never really panded out.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a strange franchise with a relatively new ownership group.
Speaker 4: We can talk to Doug more about that, and how
Speaker 4: sure he has observed that, you know, from day to
Speaker 4: day you never didn't quite know what the owner is
Speaker 4: going to want to do.
Speaker 2: In addition to that, there's already kind of you know,
Speaker 2: everybody believes these mock drafts. I don't take much into account,
Speaker 2: but they have Carter Bran going to Phoenix at number ten.
Speaker 2: I think some some excuse me, some other mock drafts
Speaker 2: had him going twenty ninth to Phoenix. I guess my
Speaker 2: what because it's Phoenix, right. Yeah, you know that they
Speaker 2: would love him, but I think he's gonna go way
Speaker 2: higher than that.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: Maybe they want him that much, maybe he has an
Speaker 2: insight to what the possibility is.
Speaker 4: It sounds like like, you know, we've been talking about this.
Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, really since the season ended,
Speaker 4: that he was really pretty much in the top fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, no matter what mock draft you looked at,
Speaker 4: he said, take those with a grain of salt, and
Speaker 4: no one will talk about them after sure, you know
Speaker 4: this thing's over.
Speaker 3: But sounds like, you know, he's gonna have a pretty
Speaker 3: good chance. Yeah, yeah, no, good for him, Good for him.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a pay raise a little bit what
Speaker 2: they're rigging now, which I'm sure he made a pretty
Speaker 2: good penny over here. And then we'll see what happened
Speaker 2: with Caleb Love here in the next couple of days,
Speaker 2: because you know, I think that he's capable, but there's
Speaker 2: issues for whatever there are, because he's not in anybody's
Speaker 2: radar or a very few people's radar.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we all watched him play for the
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and we know what some of
Speaker 4: the issues are, and so whether or not he can
Speaker 4: take his talent to the NBA or maybe they can
Speaker 4: either fix some of the the shooting woes and maybe
Speaker 4: the inconsistency or maybe the lack of defense or whatever
Speaker 4: whatever things. Maybe we're holding him back in the scout size.
Speaker 4: You know, who knows he can get into a good
Speaker 4: system or maybe have to go play elsewhere in a
Speaker 4: different country, yeah, for a year, or hey see.
Speaker 3: How that goes. Don't you wish you had his future?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's going to make some money somewhere doing
Speaker 2: what he does playing basketball. He's playing basketball. Well, it's funny. Oh,
Speaker 2: let's take a break, going to get ahold of Sean
Speaker 2: McNeil and come back after the Breakka.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hill Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roverta. You're Dave Silvery on
Speaker 2: the phone. We have Sean nil, the manager of the
Speaker 2: Tucson Suars.
Speaker 3: Sean, how you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing well. How you guys?
Speaker 3: We're doing fine? Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're in Pecos, Texas. How's the weather out there?
Speaker 6: Yeah? A perfectly hot?
Speaker 3: Same here? Is it a different hut?
Speaker 7: A little bit more less less shade, more more oil field?
Speaker 6: So okay, you can't really hide from the heat there, right?
Speaker 2: How long you've been managing this team?
Speaker 7: This would be my I want to say my fifth
Speaker 7: or sixth year in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: You you have a you must have a secret sauce
Speaker 2: to get these guys because you want a few titles yourself, right, Yes, yes.
Speaker 7: I won too, one in twenty twenty one and twenty
Speaker 7: twenty one, and then unfortunately I didn't get to win
Speaker 7: in twenty two or twenty.
Speaker 6: Three, but we were in the championships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two years as well.
Speaker 2: How I always talking to Mike the first basement of
Speaker 2: years a couple of days ago. And obviously you guys
Speaker 2: have had a lot of success for having some of that.
Speaker 2: Now what was your success or has been your success
Speaker 2: to get to the finals at least a couple of
Speaker 2: times and win two titles? Because I think you do
Speaker 2: most of the talent evaluation or does somebody else as well?
Speaker 8: No, it's just me so honestly, I just look at
Speaker 8: a lot of college staff.
Speaker 7: That spend most of my time in the off season
Speaker 7: going through colleges just trying to make contacts and out
Speaker 7: the players, just to invite them to spring train and
Speaker 7: just to see if they're good enough to make the Suarros.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe a little bit about this year's club.
Speaker 4: What can fans look forward to seeing as they come
Speaker 4: out to the games for the rest of the summer.
Speaker 3: If you could just give us a record too.
Speaker 6: We're currently eighteen and four.
Speaker 8: And just to just coming out to see the suare
Speaker 8: is a lot of fun.
Speaker 6: A lot of good baseball.
Speaker 7: But also I think to highlight this team this year
Speaker 7: more so than the other teams I've had in the past.
Speaker 7: We have a lot more tu Song guys playing for
Speaker 7: us this year. A couple came back from last year.
Speaker 7: One's Jame and Servantes and the others Travis Cole. But
Speaker 7: then we have a couple others like Antonio Fernandez is one.
Speaker 6: And then we have two kids.
Speaker 7: Not I don't think they grew up in Tucson, but
Speaker 7: they live there now. One is Aris Rodriguez and the
Speaker 7: other is Francisco.
Speaker 6: Coso. I think that's how you.
Speaker 8: Say his last name, something like that.
Speaker 2: So you don't purposely go out and find these guys,
Speaker 2: but they're good enough to make this team.
Speaker 7: Being locals, yes, yes, yeah, no, I pull from all
Speaker 7: over the country.
Speaker 16: We have East Coast guys, we have West Coast guys,
Speaker 16: Midwest guys, South guys, Dominican Republic I've even had guys
Speaker 16: from Australia and Japan before.
Speaker 3: Wow, do they come looking for you too?
Speaker 4: I mean do they look for opportunities where they can
Speaker 4: play and continue their careers.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: People will reach out to me. They'll they'll reach out
Speaker 7: to the Instagram account. Usually they'll message that account and
Speaker 7: then they'll pass that information along to me. I believe
Speaker 7: Derek Cabrero is actually one of them that reached out
Speaker 7: to me. But then you know college coaches contacts that
Speaker 7: I have, they'll reach out to me through email and
Speaker 7: everything to tell me about a guy, or they if
Speaker 7: they have my phone number, they'll give me a call
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 3: Are you guys kind of on your own with that?
Speaker 4: I mean, as like you said, you're the one that's
Speaker 4: kind of doing the evaluating.
Speaker 3: Do you have much help?
Speaker 6: I wish I yes and no so so not really.
Speaker 7: But then like the players that played for me in
Speaker 7: the past, if they see a guy, they might reach
Speaker 7: out and tell me, like, hey, I got a guy
Speaker 7: for you, or you should take a look at him.
Speaker 6: We actually had a kid in spring training.
Speaker 7: He didn't make the team, but one of my former
Speaker 7: players before I got to Tucson reached out and told
Speaker 7: me about this kid, and then I'll have, like, you know.
Speaker 6: Guys that are currently playing.
Speaker 7: There's actually two college coaches on our team or three,
Speaker 7: excuse me, three college coaches. One is at us W
Speaker 7: University of Southwest. They told me about their catcher, Brian Lodesma,
Speaker 7: and then you'll have we had another guy. He was
Speaker 7: he was a college coach for the University of Houston Victoria,
Speaker 7: and he told me about some of the players along
Speaker 7: with one of our players, Carson, that came from that
Speaker 7: school the year before.
Speaker 6: So like, guys will.
Speaker 7: Recommend guys to me because they kind of have an
Speaker 7: idea of what the talent level is.
Speaker 3: So for the for the league.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a you might explain the league.
Speaker 2: It's an independent league to Pecklosh League. It's fairly new,
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen ten to fifteen years. Like I really don't know.
Speaker 2: I know I have a team in my hometown of
Speaker 2: Santa Fe. So these kids have dreams, right, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: you have dreams to move on and move up.
Speaker 3: Could you talk about that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so obviously I would like to get into affiliated ball.
Speaker 6: You know. For me, I'm not from.
Speaker 7: Arizona, I'm from South Jersey live in Philadelphia, so it
Speaker 7: would be a dream for me to be to get
Speaker 7: into the Phillies organization. But for these kids, it's an
Speaker 7: opportunity to get their foot in the door in to
Speaker 7: get into higher levels. We've had players go on to
Speaker 7: higher levels. For Tucson specifically, we had one kid signed
Speaker 7: with the Padres organization back in twenty two and then
Speaker 7: we had one kid signed with the Cubs organization in January.
Speaker 6: So there you're basically for this league. You're betting on yourself.
Speaker 6: But it is possible to give you a big name in.
Speaker 7: Baseball that actually started in the Pecos League and made
Speaker 7: it to the MLB. Would be Armin Mercedes and you
Speaker 7: guys remember him from.
Speaker 2: The White Short In fact, I was with one of
Speaker 2: the guys, the hosts, three of the guys. They said
Speaker 2: that you've already lost maybe made sure or not. Three
Speaker 2: players moving up somewhere.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So off the top of my head, one is
Speaker 7: Julian Garcia. He's in Billings right now, billions of Mustangs
Speaker 7: in the Pioneer League. The other one just recently signed
Speaker 7: with the Tri City Valley Cats in the Frontier League.
Speaker 7: I'm drawing a blank on the other one. But yeah,
Speaker 7: guys during the season get picked up all the time
Speaker 7: from us.
Speaker 6: That's why I said it's more a foot in the
Speaker 6: door kind of league.
Speaker 7: So obviously we want them here because they're good players
Speaker 7: and they help us win, but ultimately we're happy to
Speaker 7: see them go when they get into higher leagues.
Speaker 4: Do the scouts come out to the games? Major league scouts?
Speaker 7: I want to say they would come out. If anything,
Speaker 7: they would watch more like online, just because it's easier
Speaker 7: for them to watch online. Especially our our staff, especially
Speaker 7: the play by play guys. They they set up our
Speaker 7: cameras really well, so now you can see you can
Speaker 7: have a better experience watching as well as going to
Speaker 7: the field. And if you know, like some of these
Speaker 7: scouts might not live in Arizona, so sour our camera
Speaker 7: angles are great.
Speaker 6: I watch it myself afterwards just so I can see
Speaker 6: so some things or get more insight on guys. But
Speaker 6: usually they watch the watch online.
Speaker 3: So what what's your background?
Speaker 2: And I say that because you must have been a
Speaker 2: baseball guy, baseball player, and now you've been managing for
Speaker 2: a few years. And in fact, I was talking to
Speaker 2: Dave about his kids and I know my kids are
Speaker 2: just out of college or whatever, And it's a lot
Speaker 2: of it's who you know. And I'm sure you probably
Speaker 2: know people, and I'm sure you've already reached out to
Speaker 2: get a job somewhere above this, so you know you
Speaker 2: have to catch a break somewhere, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like it's like you said, it's definitely who you
Speaker 7: know or that help you get into these higher leagues.
Speaker 7: It's a lot of word of mouth kind of deal.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: I have a few contacts that I would say they
Speaker 7: are my mentor. One guy played up in UH made
Speaker 7: it up.
Speaker 6: All the way up the Triple A Baseball.
Speaker 7: The other UH played over in Japan professionally made a
Speaker 7: couple of million dollars, played for the same team that
Speaker 7: show hey Tani played for, but before Donny got there.
Speaker 7: And like I use him as a contact a lot,
Speaker 7: just because he is involved with If you guys ever
Speaker 7: heard of.
Speaker 6: Baseball United over in what where am I thinking of Dubai?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: So, like I've been trying to reach out of him
Speaker 7: because just he has a lot of contacts overseas in
Speaker 7: the US. And hopefully you know with all this winning
Speaker 7: that I'm doing, well, mainly they're doing and I'm just
Speaker 7: you know, standing there. Uh, maybe it'll work out for
Speaker 7: me in the future.
Speaker 3: And the sport. You know, you just mentioned Dubai.
Speaker 4: I mean we just had the World Baseball Classic there
Speaker 4: at the it's a Keno Stadium, So I mean there's
Speaker 4: baseball everywhere, right, I mean, I guess you got to
Speaker 4: be maybe a citizen of those countries, but to play
Speaker 4: on the on the the country's teams. But there's pro baseball,
Speaker 4: I know, like in Germany and obviously Japan and then
Speaker 4: in the Far East.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, there's a baseball over the all over the world,
Speaker 7: like you said, Japan, and you have Korea, you have Germany,
Speaker 7: you have Australia. You have obviously mex Ago with the
Speaker 7: new team coming in in the in the winter time,
Speaker 7: which I think is great.
Speaker 6: But like I think it's good for baseball. It's good.
Speaker 7: I think it's great that you guys had the Baseball
Speaker 7: Classic as well. I was watching some of the games
Speaker 7: since I wasn't in Tucson online and on TV as well,
Speaker 7: just to follow just because I think, Yeah, it was
Speaker 7: a it's great to watch. It's great to see different
Speaker 7: countries really like you know, embracing.
Speaker 6: Our like our sport. I call it our sport.
Speaker 7: You know it's it's it's a great game to play,
Speaker 7: it's a great game to watch. So I'm glad that
Speaker 7: you guys had the World Baseball Classic in Tucson.
Speaker 3: One of the things that struck me.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how long this has gone on,
Speaker 2: but you're playing at Keno right, your games are at Keno.
Speaker 2: But not too long ago, you guys were playing at
Speaker 2: like a Reed Park or something Jerry Field. Sure, you
Speaker 2: know you guys have come a long way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we actually started at Keno in sixteen and
Speaker 7: seventeen when I wasn't around, and then eighteen, I want
Speaker 7: to say, was Reed Park, and then nineteen was Cherry Field,
Speaker 7: twenty twenty was COVID, So we had to play at
Speaker 7: a location in Houston, Texas where.
Speaker 8: All the teams played, like I said, in one location.
Speaker 7: But for twenty one we were at Anti High School,
Speaker 7: and then we moved back to Keno in twenty two
Speaker 7: till now, and.
Speaker 6: I feel like we're gonna be there for a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think, like I said that the Apples
Speaker 2: to Apples is probably the best ballpark you play in
Speaker 2: all over.
Speaker 6: The place of and that I would say, this is
Speaker 6: the crown viewele of the PECOS League.
Speaker 2: Does that help you because you guys have won a lot,
Speaker 2: Does that has that helped you pride wise or performance
Speaker 2: wise at all?
Speaker 7: I would say it helps me more in the recruiting process,
Speaker 7: like when I go to find players, like one of
Speaker 7: the players, I would say that was like once I
Speaker 7: showed him the field, he was one.
Speaker 6: His name was Andrew Baker.
Speaker 7: To give you a little background on him, he played
Speaker 7: at the University of Florida, won a national championship with
Speaker 7: them as well, So like when he saw the field,
Speaker 7: he like, on I'm coming. I think the that atmosphere
Speaker 7: as well gives them more of a field, like a
Speaker 7: professional feel. Like you know, when I say professional field,
Speaker 7: like I'm I'm more saying like like an MLB kind
Speaker 7: of level kind of professional field, right, because even some
Speaker 7: of these indie ball leagues, they play in minor league
Speaker 7: stadiums where this one I know, this spring training facility or.
Speaker 6: It was, but this field is is immaculate.
Speaker 2: Well, having grown up in Santa Fe and played at
Speaker 2: four Marti Park most of my young adult life, young
Speaker 2: before I became an adult, that's a Cracker Box compared
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes it is. It's definitely you'll definitely see.
Speaker 7: Some high scoring games. But I will say this, it's
Speaker 7: it is my favorite place to visit during this like
Speaker 7: during the season when we have away games. I think
Speaker 7: the I think the mountains are beautiful. Being from the
Speaker 7: East Coast, we don't really see mountains, but just the atmosphere.
Speaker 8: They're They're very supportive in Santa Fe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean, like obviously, like the field is nice,
Speaker 7: but it doesn't compare to you.
Speaker 2: You know, don't forget the food, baby, the food is fantastic.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 8: That's true.
Speaker 4: And I'm assuming you guys are on your busting all
Speaker 4: over the place, right, is that how this this the
Speaker 4: summer plays out on buses.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it depends, right, Like, we have a budget
Speaker 7: for twelve twelve passenger vans this year.
Speaker 8: We were only to afford one.
Speaker 7: Just because unfortunately, our our host family coordinator had to
Speaker 7: walk away at briefly and that kind of put us
Speaker 7: behind and finding the housing for our players.
Speaker 6: So we have one van.
Speaker 7: The rest well, you know, we might have to carpool,
Speaker 7: but we had to use the rest of that money
Speaker 7: for airbnbs. For guys until we're able to find host
Speaker 7: families for players.
Speaker 6: So when you're the remaining players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a it's a tough, tough league trying
Speaker 2: to survive. What do you do when you're not coaching
Speaker 2: the Suarros?
Speaker 3: Do you go back home? And what do you do?
Speaker 7: So when I actually, when I go back home, I
Speaker 7: I actually umpire baseball.
Speaker 8: Games to make some money, but uh, just so I can.
Speaker 7: Stay around the game, maybe get some lessons here and there.
Speaker 6: I was previously with.
Speaker 7: A mortgage servicing company, working remote remotely, but I you know,
Speaker 7: I walked away from that to focus more on on
Speaker 7: baseball and.
Speaker 6: The recruiting process.
Speaker 2: Well it's funny because we Dave was a longtime TV
Speaker 2: guy locally here, I was a longtime sports writer here.
Speaker 3: Now I do this.
Speaker 2: Uh, but you get to do what I don't know, thousands,
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of kids get to do or want
Speaker 2: to do. Right, You guys are playing baseball for a living,
Speaker 2: maybe making little scratch with it and trying to live
Speaker 2: your dream.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, I feel like I'm I'm just lucky.
Speaker 6: One day they just called me, He's like, hey, do
Speaker 6: you want to manage? And I was like, all right,
Speaker 6: and to be honest with you.
Speaker 7: Before I said that all right, I was kind of unsure.
Speaker 7: But my girlfriend's the one that convinced me. She's actually
Speaker 7: the reason too, why I went to Tucson back in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, because she's actually originally from Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait comes one hundred thousand dollars question? Is
Speaker 2: she still with you?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: So she knows how much money you're making?
Speaker 7: Yes, she she When the previous team I was with
Speaker 7: was called the High Desert yard Birds, and the commissioner
Speaker 7: called me because that team was going to fold for
Speaker 7: the twenty twenty season.
Speaker 6: He called me, He's like, you can go to Rosala,
Speaker 6: you can go to Tucson.
Speaker 7: And I had to speakerphone, and she just looked at
Speaker 7: me and I already knew I'm going to tou Song.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well so you are married?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. But I was the best decision
Speaker 7: that I that she helped me make.
Speaker 2: Yes, welcome to your future. Well, Sean, we appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: When do you guys come back?
Speaker 7: We'll be back Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday against the Alpine
Speaker 7: their second they're the second place team in.
Speaker 6: Our Division while we're the first place. So definitely a
Speaker 6: big series will be a lot of good baseball. So
Speaker 6: come on out if you if you can.
Speaker 3: What's the July stuff or no?
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I know Keino has the College fourth of July game,
Speaker 7: but we'll be back on the fifth and six against
Speaker 7: Santa Fe.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, cool, cool, maybe we'll go see Thanks a bunch, Sean.
Speaker 2: Good luck to you this weekend. Well now in Packholston
Speaker 2: when you come.
Speaker 6: Back, all right, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You guys have a good res too. Good luck tonight.
Speaker 3: Take care. Wow that was shut Sean mc from from
Speaker 3: the Tucson.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's yeah, you learned more and more. We
Speaker 2: didn't even ask him some tough questions because I did.
Speaker 2: Probably don't make a whole lot of money. But they're
Speaker 2: out there doing what they want to do.
Speaker 4: No, I think that's that's the key is they're just
Speaker 4: trying to extend their their time in baseball, and you know,
Speaker 4: maybe somewhere along the line, someone's going to pick some
Speaker 4: of these players up. Remember we had a Tucson Toros
Speaker 4: came back and there were later incarnation.
Speaker 3: They had an independent league team and a few of
Speaker 3: those guys made it.
Speaker 4: I think a handful on that team eventually got out
Speaker 4: of Tucson onto a you know, professional minor.
Speaker 3: League team, and a couple of made the majors. So
Speaker 3: it can happen.
Speaker 2: So it's it's pretty good baseball too, if you if
Speaker 2: you're you know, Jones in for baseball at a certain level,
Speaker 2: it's it's, uh, it's not the big League, is not
Speaker 2: Triple A.
Speaker 4: But it's pretty good now in Tucson. As he was saying,
Speaker 4: they're eighteen and four. They're really good at home, and
Speaker 4: they're really good on the road. Actually there's seven and
Speaker 4: one at home and eleven and three on the road,
Speaker 4: so they're playing some He must have an eye for
Speaker 4: talent because, like I say, he'd want a lot over
Speaker 4: the last few years.
Speaker 2: And you know, and winning is difficult, especially in baseball.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm looking at the teams and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: think that Tucson might be the biggest city market in
Speaker 4: the in the in the entire league. So I mean
Speaker 4: we're talking Alpine. I mean, I've been to Alpine, Texas.
Speaker 4: But tell me give me a it's like on the
Speaker 4: road to Big Bend. Okay, God, that's that's nowhere down
Speaker 4: there yet. Now I've never been. I've been to Big Bend.
Speaker 4: That's why I say, wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of down in that direction. So I
Speaker 2: have the borders right there. It's yeah, Roswell. I've never
Speaker 2: there's New Mexico. Have never been to Roswell's not Roswell.
Speaker 2: But it's Marfa. Ever heard of Marfa? Yeah, Marfa Lights.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we went down there a couple of times
Speaker 2: for family. But yeah, that's it's pretty small, about seventy there.
Speaker 2: You know, they all all they have is this and
Speaker 2: they talk about this stuff all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's Santa Fan in the summer is beautiful, fantastic.
Speaker 6: I go back.
Speaker 2: A lot of people go back, right, Yeah, might go
Speaker 2: back all the time. Opera whatever, different opera, just as
Speaker 2: the show's shops and all that stuff. H yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The richest people in Santa Fe are wearing brag tag
Speaker 2: clothes because they are artists. They are artists or sculptures.
Speaker 2: You know that just you would never know that that's
Speaker 2: the Georgia O'Keeffe guy or the woman.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just all these people they're there, that they're there. Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to our in the ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Riverta, your Dave Silver
Speaker 2: is good to get ahold of Sean You on a
Speaker 2: winning out there. Yeah, we have to go out there
Speaker 2: and help some popcorn and the beer, go.
Speaker 3: Out and watch some summertime baseball in Tucson. Summertime.
Speaker 2: I haven't done that forever because WBC was for February
Speaker 2: than it was anything else.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was nice. Weather was nice then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little cold because it was winding members. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you did some of the games.
Speaker 4: It'll be it'll be interesting to see how that, I mean,
Speaker 4: the franchise has been around there there. I guess this
Speaker 4: league must be financially pretty solid.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know it is from the top, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, because I think they fund everybody.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of teams in that league in some
Speaker 4: pretty small towns.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: And so they're gonna go ahead and watch some some
Speaker 4: guys that are, you know, maybe still have that dream
Speaker 4: of getting into at least a professional organization or a
Speaker 4: major league organization.
Speaker 2: I should say, yeah, yeah, people have different dreams. I'd
Speaker 2: get to the college, play there and see what happens
Speaker 2: after that. Maybe you'll get seen, Maybe you have a
Speaker 2: little niche that you can find. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: you see college guys. You saw the college groups over
Speaker 2: the weekend or the last two weeks, and how good
Speaker 2: these players are.
Speaker 4: And a lot of those guys if they don't get
Speaker 4: drafted or or you know, turn pro or you know,
Speaker 4: leave school, they have other places to go while they're
Speaker 4: still in college. They can go to the Cape Cod leagues,
Speaker 4: they can go to other places around the country and
Speaker 4: play in the summer.
Speaker 2: So you know, well, you notice that the schools that
Speaker 2: he was mentioning were like, you know, D two D
Speaker 2: the smaller, you know, connected West. But but then you
Speaker 2: then he throws out the Florida school. Yeah so that
Speaker 2: was like really okay, yeah, you just you just wonder.
Speaker 4: I mean, and if he has connections, and I think
Speaker 4: the main thing for someone like you know this this
Speaker 4: team is for him to have connections, him to know, Okay,
Speaker 4: it's time I need to get ten players. You know,
Speaker 4: where do I look and he can start making some
Speaker 4: phone calls and try to sell people to come here
Speaker 4: and to play.
Speaker 2: It's like like where we'll go see tomorrow, you know
Speaker 2: with the draft, and you just got to be on
Speaker 2: top of things.
Speaker 3: Know what's going to fit with your with your team.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think fillow that. I think that Tommy does this
Speaker 3: pretty well.
Speaker 2: I know Lout did this well, and some some of
Speaker 2: the coaches, and I'm sure there's thousands of other coaches
Speaker 2: that do this well.
Speaker 3: Where they fit the team scheme, with.
Speaker 2: The personalities and the but some of them just go
Speaker 2: after talent and it doesn't work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about the The Rutgers team didn't
Speaker 2: have a good season, I think a losing record impact,
Speaker 2: but they had two of the best players in the
Speaker 2: in in the college game who might be playing pro.
Speaker 4: And so you know that coach can turn around and say, listen,
Speaker 4: you know we might you know.
Speaker 3: We need Look what I can do.
Speaker 4: I can develop to you know, top five traftics even
Speaker 4: though we go you know below five hundred is a record.
Speaker 3: Well it's kind of strange.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you this. You talked about that,
Speaker 2: and I kind of laughed. Because I know you're not
Speaker 2: being serious. But Sean had these guys, right, he had
Speaker 2: these guys, but they were already He had the agents,
Speaker 2: they had the Aaron Gordon's and the and whom and
Speaker 2: Whomever's trier blah blah blah. They they were already going pro.
Speaker 2: They just needed a place to land for nine months exactly.
Speaker 2: They didn't develop NBA skills here, they were already developed.
Speaker 4: I know, it's it's interesting too, that's you know, Carter
Speaker 4: Bryant kind of.
Speaker 3: The same different, same difference. He didn't even play that much.
Speaker 4: DeAndre eight and played a lot while he was here,
Speaker 4: as did Treer people like that. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: Carter Bryant, I you know, you look at you go, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's got a great, great looking shot he's got he's
Speaker 4: very athletic, he's good defensively, seems like a good guy.
Speaker 3: Well you know what else are they looking at?
Speaker 2: There's not much right size right right because and I've
Speaker 2: said this before, uh when and I this is my
Speaker 2: pet peep. So you end the game in November, you
Speaker 2: kick some team by twenty even if it's a good game,
Speaker 2: and the guys sit down and look at their stats
Speaker 2: and how those stats kind of like really percterize or
Speaker 2: they want to have stats. It's not about stats because
Speaker 2: if Kobe or not Kobe, I'm sorry, Carter didn't have
Speaker 2: stats because Jay Day, if you're good enough, guess what
Speaker 2: they'll find you and it doesn't matter about your stats,
Speaker 2: and then you get to develop through them because I
Speaker 2: doubt it. I doubt if Carter's going to play a
Speaker 2: lot next year, no matter where he goes. But it's
Speaker 2: not about next year. It's about two or three years
Speaker 2: down the road.
Speaker 4: And they've got great scouts and they'll, you know, they'll
Speaker 4: work these players out. I'm sure you know they all
Speaker 4: kind of the teams know when they're drafting. That's one
Speaker 4: of the things about the Suns is up until this
Speaker 4: this train the other day, they were not going to
Speaker 4: be drafting in the top ten, so they probably weren't
Speaker 4: looking at those types of players. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: they're getting the tenth pick, right, and who they going
Speaker 4: to pick? Who they who have even worked out over
Speaker 4: the last you know, two months since the season, and
Speaker 4: so kind of in a.
Speaker 2: Pickle right right, So now we're going to have Doug Holler,
Speaker 2: who covers the Suns for the athletic Maybe he has
Speaker 2: some insight.
Speaker 3: I don't know him.
Speaker 2: When I covered a day to day for the Citizen
Speaker 2: many years ago, i'd go up and see, uh, you
Speaker 2: know Arizona's people when they'd when they'd have workouts for
Speaker 2: the for the Suns, and and that was, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe courtesy workouts. They've bring a bunch of people in
Speaker 2: and out, so we'll see maybe even the diversions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny. Maybe I'm just not seeing
Speaker 4: it as much as we used to see it. But
Speaker 4: I don't know if they even do that much anymore.
Speaker 4: They'll bring in a group, like they'll bring in like
Speaker 4: five guys. I think they still do that, do they?
Speaker 2: In fact, I was just reading the story about the
Speaker 2: kids at Rutgers and the Bailey kid refused all workouts.
Speaker 2: He didn't go anywhere. He had some plan and then
Speaker 2: he said, no, I'm not going to go. And people
Speaker 2: are saying that's kind of immatures as well. I'm just living.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing what I do whatever.
Speaker 4: Well, you hear about that sometimes with the football players too,
Speaker 4: where they don't do workouts or they're they're just going
Speaker 4: to do the interviews and they're not going to you know, throw.
Speaker 3: For the coaches or do whatever.
Speaker 4: So it seems to be you know, their agents talking
Speaker 4: or their families talking and saying, you know, you might
Speaker 4: have something to lose if you go out there and
Speaker 4: show them something they don't want to see.
Speaker 2: Was there a player just said, don't question me. I
Speaker 2: just came up with it. Was there a player you
Speaker 2: thought was a sure bet here that didn't make it
Speaker 2: even in our day, even in our day, And what's
Speaker 2: sport basketball? Basketball, because that's very apparent football would be difficult.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think most of them that we thought were gonna
Speaker 4: go and have decent careers, I mean that was always
Speaker 4: kind of loots mantra was, I don't want these guys
Speaker 4: just to go up there and play for a year
Speaker 4: or two.
Speaker 3: I want to have a career. And they and they
Speaker 3: did that. Many of them did well. The one guy
Speaker 3: that could.
Speaker 2: Have been much better than what he was, and that
Speaker 2: was no fault of his own, was Michael Dickerson. Well,
Speaker 2: because he was fantastic, then he got hurt, growing the
Speaker 2: growing injury, and he kind of just faded away.
Speaker 3: Miles.
Speaker 2: I think more people had high hopes for Miles, but
Speaker 2: he was not an NBA guy.
Speaker 4: No, he was a college guy. You're right about Dickers.
Speaker 4: About Michael. Actually, I saw him, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 4: in the last ten years or something here in Tucson.
Speaker 3: He was around different, looks a little different, it's different,
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 4: Was really friendly and he remembered me, which was that
Speaker 4: guy was like shocked that, you know, a good kid
Speaker 4: who I was.
Speaker 3: But it was really nice to just kind of catch
Speaker 3: up with him.
Speaker 2: He loved he stayed with the Olsen's. He stayed with
Speaker 2: him whenever he's in town. He was like kind of
Speaker 2: like their adopted son, because you know, he was just
Speaker 2: Michael Dickerson.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he had either relatives in Phoenix or Tucson. Still,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly how it worked out, but he
Speaker 4: all of a sudden he showed up at this one
Speaker 4: gem and he was he was just yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: He does that every still, because he's kind of like
Speaker 2: a maverick, just kind of in and out of places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was Yeah, that's a good that's a
Speaker 4: good example of one. Because most of the guys who
Speaker 4: you thought would make it made it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rooks and the Buchlers and the you know
Speaker 2: during my time the Chris Mills and he had the
Speaker 2: most unbelievable career and he's still living living that life.
Speaker 4: I mean he's you know, TJ's kind of following in
Speaker 4: his footsteps very much.
Speaker 3: So maybe even more. It's a part of the of
Speaker 3: the team, is the Kurr was.
Speaker 2: Well, imagine his future coaching to coaching too, because you
Speaker 2: know that's going to happen, or broadcasting or broadcasting. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would assume that he'd be a pretty good coach
Speaker 2: like his dad, you know whatever back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that whole family is just a basketball thing. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like the Sean Miller family. You know, basketball
Speaker 2: was their life.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Their dad was the coach and him, Sean and his
Speaker 2: brother were the players.
Speaker 3: On the coach and they were all from Pittsburgh to
Speaker 3: r P. I probably know each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's high school year. I think that's why Sean
Speaker 2: brought him here. Probably thought a lot looked a lot
Speaker 2: like him, you know, this dogged guy, just the leader type,
Speaker 2: makes total sense.
Speaker 3: I vaguely remember him when he played at pitt Do
Speaker 3: you remember? I do?
Speaker 14: I do?
Speaker 2: Because of his eyes and his intensity and thought throwing
Speaker 2: in Jerome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you remember that one played but you know,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 4: Think this is eighty nine ninety yeah maybe no, I
Speaker 4: think it was like eighty eight, eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he played there, but that that play was
Speaker 2: like later on ninety ninety one maybe, yeah, but he
Speaker 2: was out there and he was just this guard right this, uh, this, this.
Speaker 3: Is just the point guard.
Speaker 4: McCoy had a couple of NBA players on the front line,
Speaker 4: if I remember, Jerome and Charles Smith one of those
Speaker 4: kind of guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 2: And they played here. They played there as well back
Speaker 2: in the day. So okay, we have about a minute, Dave,
Speaker 2: we'll come back. No breaking news. Maybe we'll take a
Speaker 2: call or two early on. And then talked to Doug
Speaker 2: Holler about the Suns and uh maybe Asu.
Speaker 3: I think he's covering some issues.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been a busy, busy offseason up there,
Speaker 4: and the son's you know, making a big trade the
Speaker 4: other day, totally switching up the team again for like
Speaker 4: the second or third time in the last like three
Speaker 4: or four.
Speaker 2: It's been a tough haul pretty much all of our
Speaker 2: time in Arizona for me and they you know, ninety
Speaker 2: three was pretty good, and then the COVID year when
Speaker 2: they went did really well, and then a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago when they went to the finals and then
Speaker 2: lost kind of like in an industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just we seem to have had such
Speaker 4: a really good team, you know, a young team with
Speaker 4: eighton and with Cal Bridges and Cam Johnson and people
Speaker 4: like that, and then they just blow it up, bringing
Speaker 4: Durant and then they get rid of them, right. So
Speaker 4: it's just been an interesting Dave stretch. What have you
Speaker 4: done for me lately?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: So what have you done for late lately? Okay, let's
Speaker 3: take a break and come back.