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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Bomb with Steve Rovera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Tuesday's show of ut

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<v Speaker 2>of the Ball here on Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Rivera.

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<v Speaker 3>I got Dave Silver with me in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>I am here and I'm running the show, so expect

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<v Speaker 2>the unexpected.

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<v Speaker 3>Our microphones are on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, we're yes, we're working. Hey, I've gotten better

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<v Speaker 2>at this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good because we have no choice but for me

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<v Speaker 2>to get better at this. Young guys are out today tomorrow. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>so we got this show going on. Luck to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Dave. You've been out for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's been kind of an interesting few

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<v Speaker 4>days with the NBA Finals wrapping up, So that was

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you guys talked exensively about that yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 4>certainly that was kind of the highlight of this part

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<v Speaker 4>of the summer, and so that's kind of the dead

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<v Speaker 4>part of summer was kind of upon us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is tough for me because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time finding people. I had one of your not

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<v Speaker 2>a colleague of yours, but the same kind of business

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<v Speaker 2>you're in with Jennifer, I think yesterday. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>how difficult it is to find stories this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get the off stories. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do the sports stories, right, not that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it before, but you find the off off the

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<v Speaker 2>cuugh stories.

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<v Speaker 4>We used to have a lot of fun with those

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of stories too, because those are stories maybe you

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<v Speaker 4>would not have time to do in the heart of

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<v Speaker 4>the football and basketball seasons in a town like this,

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<v Speaker 4>So you kind of put those stories to the side.

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<v Speaker 4>You think about it and say, hey, you know, why

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<v Speaker 4>don't I contact this person. Let's do something a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit different. So that's kind of what the summers were

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<v Speaker 4>always about.

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<v Speaker 3>Off the top of your head. Do you remember any

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<v Speaker 3>of those stories?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, they weren't too memorable.

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<v Speaker 2>You were, well, it's been a while, but you you

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<v Speaker 2>must have been a whiz at this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, let me go back and look. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know a lot of little league things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you say that. My one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite was like back then, it was like the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifth year of them going to the Williams Sport and

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<v Speaker 2>the kids of seventy whatever it was, eighty whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still had their vhas VHS tapes, and and

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<v Speaker 2>we ran those and I did the stories on most

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids that are still around, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>coach or two had already passed.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It was also good. Again, it doesn't really exist now.

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<v Speaker 4>In the same form was this Tucson Summer Pro League.

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<v Speaker 4>And that would kick in like in July usually or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, I guess it's going when when they, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the guys would come Wildcats would be playing, or the

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<v Speaker 4>recruit would be coming in, or some you know, veteran

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<v Speaker 4>player would come back this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were great stories to have, you know, stuck right

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle, especially when they went at each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Richard's in the U and the Marcus Williams

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jason Terry, Jason Terry and uh and Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Rogers and those guys who just you know didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to back down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean they would come back. They would stick

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<v Speaker 4>around for the summer. Things were different. I guess in

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<v Speaker 4>those years they didn't have places to go or they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't need to be back, but they would do summer

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<v Speaker 4>school or just to kind of stay around Tucson and

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<v Speaker 4>then they would play.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are a good summertimes story.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to joke about this because Marcus was coming

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<v Speaker 2>back for his sophomore year and he'd score like forty

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<v Speaker 2>five a game and blah blah blah. And I used

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<v Speaker 2>to get email saying, how come he can do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he does that in the regular season, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing against nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's playing against some forty year old guy played

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, right right, You'll be lucky to get fifteen from him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And and and that's what he did every now, and

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<v Speaker 2>he scored, scored, But yeah, there was kind of false expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun though it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a fun when it When it first started,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were playing at the JCC.

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<v Speaker 3>They would get you know, actually some people to come

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<v Speaker 4>And then eventually I think it evolved and moved around

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<v Speaker 4>to some different increations a great Gregory school, but back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day it was it was kind of cool

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<v Speaker 4>when all of a sudden, you know, hey, it's you'd

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<v Speaker 4>get the phone call like at you know, four o'clock, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that you know, Richard Jefferson is going to

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<v Speaker 4>show up and play play tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>We would just you know, send the cameras out.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget about TM USA two baseball that summer, the

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<v Speaker 2>summers when they have the headquarters here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they had a lot of Olympic program whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>was a USA Baseball program.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Kendall was coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get a lot of the sons of the

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, uh, the big the big wigs, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the back of the day. The Suns would

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<v Speaker 2>come through your fourteen fifteen year old kids. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we talked about this once before, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure Fernando of Alanzuela brought to like Team Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>Play exhibition games.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe it was around high Corbette and Jerry Kendall

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<v Speaker 4>and you know Fernando was, oh yeah, I think you

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<v Speaker 4>did ten fifteen years from his last games. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was here. People knew him. People want to come

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<v Speaker 2>And stuff and think he was accommodating too, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>It was right, well, the good old days. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's too hot out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's the other problem is, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of base those stories either one being really

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<v Speaker 4>super early in the morning or later later at night

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<v Speaker 4>or indoors. So you know, we weren't going to run

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<v Speaker 4>out there, and I mean there was some there was

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<v Speaker 4>some stories worth covering.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the staple was the t on toros in the sidewin,

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<v Speaker 2>right for all those years. You get your cameras out

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<v Speaker 2>there for an inning or two and then get the call,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah they're still playing. There's ten twenty five and they're

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<v Speaker 2>still played. Yeah, extra eighties or we would we would do.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you guys probably did sort of the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We would do interviews before the game and use that

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<v Speaker 4>as our coverage and then oh, by the way, here's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, twenty five seconds worth of highlights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially in the afternoon paper.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what we did, you know, find a feature, do

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<v Speaker 2>the interviews right during the stort, right during the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just sticking the the score. Yeah, oh by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, because you know what, most didn't care about

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<v Speaker 2>the outcome. They're there to have fun, no, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>get an update on maybe a player too, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming down or movie no, I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at least a few times every season there

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<v Speaker 4>be Ricky Henderson I remember showed up one time or

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<v Speaker 4>the Kurt Schilling and Randy Johnson both came down here

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<v Speaker 4>for rehab assignments.

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<v Speaker 3>With the hope that they would talk, and they usually

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<v Speaker 3>were pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they understood, you know, they weren't being going

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<v Speaker 4>to be outed by you know, ten people. It would

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<v Speaker 4>be like two TV stations and one newspaper guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it'd be it wasn't a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever have a confrontation with any of them? Confrontation?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was when I first started, always on a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three year old, and it was tough the first

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<v Speaker 2>year or so, trying the guy's trying to bully you

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<v Speaker 4>I used to not be super aggressive. I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just flung to the side. I think most

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<v Speaker 4>of us did because we didn't really know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they would be quote unquote, you know, focused on whatever

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<v Speaker 4>they needed to do, and they finish hitting and they

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<v Speaker 4>start walking away, and you're like, this is a good

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not quite sure that the right time, or

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get you later. It's always a good good I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go get a sandwich. I'm still waiting for Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>Samberg to finish the sandwich in the clubhouse. I'll be back,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be back. Okay, the game starts never came out.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of stipp be the most was not in baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>but this was basketball when the Lucas coach Lucas when

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<v Speaker 2>he coached the Spurs, I want to see us, but

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<v Speaker 2>John Lucas, when you cook, yeah, you know, they usually

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<v Speaker 2>have time before the games to talk to them because

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're and he kind of ducks me for

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<v Speaker 2>a few I was following them around the court eventually

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<v Speaker 2>and we ran out of time.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like this guy, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a simple, simple, just a quick you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get a couple of quick qutes for your story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's about Sean at the time, and it was, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, come on, I'm not asking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the recipe for for whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean we you and I both kind

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<v Speaker 4>of complained about access and how it's different now than

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<v Speaker 4>it was. But at least, now, don't they have to

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<v Speaker 4>do like some kind of pregame news conference at least

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<v Speaker 4>the NBA coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>Like oh yeah, yeah, they do.

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<v Speaker 6>They and they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They open the locker rooms like ninety minutes before the

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<v Speaker 2>game game okay, oh yeah, yeah, those are staples. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>they have to agree to say yes to you. But

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<v Speaker 2>they do bring the coaches in to get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>early work in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean sometimes Steve Kurr's best moments are in those

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<v Speaker 4>pregame news conferences. Yeah, they ask him things and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>yeah stuff. It's not pertin into the game itself, which

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<v Speaker 4>is something else is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well to your points to fill the notebook before

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline comes later, because that'll be replaced or become

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<v Speaker 3>But now deadlines are so screwy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like are they even deadlines anyway? Well, well, for the

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<v Speaker 3>How came you always on?

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<v Speaker 2>How come you always so negative with Tommy, Tommy Lloyd,

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<v Speaker 3>There's you know, there's stories about that as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>So Tommy stopped sending me those notes. No, he could

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<v Speaker 2>So today Tommy had no Dave, Dave Silver, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>Last week we talked to one of the players. It

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<v Speaker 3>was good. They're very good this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were sixteen and four when we talked

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<v Speaker 2>to the baseball player.

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<v Speaker 3>might be better than that. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Sean McNeil. I'll see how long he's

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<v Speaker 2>been with them. They won three titles of the Pequos League.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna call us about three eighteen in about

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<v Speaker 2>the Suns when I've talked to him about the big

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<v Speaker 2>trade one. How's the city kind of dealing with that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they their time is coming gone with Durant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know he was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the honeymoon. It's a honeymoon everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of my buddies sent me his his profile,

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<v Speaker 2>not his, but Durant's profile. All the uniforms he's worn

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<v Speaker 2>in the last whatever. He's like j Lo of the NBA. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got every uniform now a new one. He's bounced around,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. What is He's thirty seven now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many teams is good. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to be what five, five or sixteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh more than I think I have to count at least.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's been an interesting run for him, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he seems to get to a place and

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<v Speaker 4>he's happy with it for about a year or so,

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<v Speaker 4>and then by year two the comments started coming out

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<v Speaker 4>to get moved, and you know now they're now the

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<v Speaker 4>Suns are talking about blowing everything up, getting rid of

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<v Speaker 4>Bradley Beal as well. They want to build everything around

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<v Speaker 4>Devin Booker, which they tried already once before. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the whole DeAndre Ayton thing never really panded out.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a strange franchise with a relatively new ownership group.

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<v Speaker 4>We can talk to Doug more about that, and how

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<v Speaker 4>sure he has observed that, you know, from day to

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<v Speaker 4>going to want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to that, there's already kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody believes these mock drafts. I don't take much into account,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have Carter Bran going to Phoenix at number ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I think some some excuse me, some other mock drafts

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<v Speaker 2>had him going twenty ninth to Phoenix. I guess my

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<v Speaker 2>what because it's Phoenix, right. Yeah, you know that they

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<v Speaker 2>would love him, but I think he's gonna go way

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<v Speaker 2>higher than that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they want him that much, maybe he has an

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like like, you know, we've been talking about this.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like, you know, really since the season ended,

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<v Speaker 4>that he was really pretty much in the top fifteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, no matter what mock draft you looked at,

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<v Speaker 4>no one will talk about them after sure, you know

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<v Speaker 4>this thing's over.

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<v Speaker 3>But sounds like, you know, he's gonna have a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good chance. Yeah, yeah, no, good for him, Good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna get a pay raise a little bit what

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<v Speaker 2>they're rigging now, which I'm sure he made a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good penny over here. And then we'll see what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Caleb Love here in the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I think that he's capable, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>issues for whatever there are, because he's not in anybody's

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we all watched him play for the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years, and we know what some of

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<v Speaker 4>the issues are, and so whether or not he can

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<v Speaker 4>take his talent to the NBA or maybe they can

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<v Speaker 4>either fix some of the the shooting woes and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>whatever things. Maybe we're holding him back in the scout size.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, who knows he can get into a good

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<v Speaker 4>different country, yeah, for a year, or hey see.

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<v Speaker 3>How that goes. Don't you wish you had his future?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he's going to make some money somewhere doing

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hill Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roverta. You're Dave Silvery on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. We have Sean nil, the manager of the

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<v Speaker 2>Tucson Suars.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing well. How you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing fine? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in Pecos, Texas. How's the weather out there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? A perfectly hot?

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<v Speaker 3>Same here? Is it a different hut?

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<v Speaker 7>A little bit more less less shade, more more oil field?

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<v Speaker 6>So okay, you can't really hide from the heat there, right?

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<v Speaker 2>How long you've been managing this team?

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<v Speaker 7>This would be my I want to say my fifth

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<v Speaker 7>or sixth year in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>You you have a you must have a secret sauce

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<v Speaker 2>to get these guys because you want a few titles yourself, right, Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 7>I won too, one in twenty twenty one and twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty one, and then unfortunately I didn't get to win

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<v Speaker 7>in twenty two or twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Three, but we were in the championships.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two years as well.

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<v Speaker 2>How I always talking to Mike the first basement of

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<v Speaker 2>years a couple of days ago. And obviously you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have had a lot of success for having some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what was your success or has been your success

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the finals at least a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times and win two titles? Because I think you do

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<v Speaker 2>most of the talent evaluation or does somebody else as well?

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<v Speaker 8>No, it's just me so honestly, I just look at

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of college staff.

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<v Speaker 7>That spend most of my time in the off season

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<v Speaker 7>going through colleges just trying to make contacts and out

495
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<v Speaker 7>the players, just to invite them to spring train and

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<v Speaker 7>just to see if they're good enough to make the Suarros.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe a little bit about this year's club.

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<v Speaker 4>What can fans look forward to seeing as they come

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<v Speaker 4>out to the games for the rest of the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could just give us a record too.

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<v Speaker 6>We're currently eighteen and four.

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<v Speaker 8>And just to just coming out to see the suare

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of good baseball.

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<v Speaker 7>But also I think to highlight this team this year

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<v Speaker 7>more so than the other teams I've had in the past.

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<v Speaker 7>We have a lot more tu Song guys playing for

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<v Speaker 7>us this year. A couple came back from last year.

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<v Speaker 7>One's Jame and Servantes and the others Travis Cole. But

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<v Speaker 7>then we have a couple others like Antonio Fernandez is one.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we have two kids.

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<v Speaker 7>Not I don't think they grew up in Tucson, but

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<v Speaker 7>they live there now. One is Aris Rodriguez and the

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<v Speaker 7>other is Francisco.

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<v Speaker 6>Coso. I think that's how you.

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<v Speaker 8>Say his last name, something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't purposely go out and find these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're good enough to make this team.

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<v Speaker 7>Being locals, yes, yes, yeah, no, I pull from all

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<v Speaker 7>over the country.

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<v Speaker 16>We have East Coast guys, we have West Coast guys,

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<v Speaker 16>Midwest guys, South guys, Dominican Republic I've even had guys

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<v Speaker 16>from Australia and Japan before.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, do they come looking for you too?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean do they look for opportunities where they can

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<v Speaker 4>play and continue their careers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>People will reach out to me. They'll they'll reach out

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<v Speaker 7>to the Instagram account. Usually they'll message that account and

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<v Speaker 7>then they'll pass that information along to me. I believe

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<v Speaker 7>Derek Cabrero is actually one of them that reached out

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<v Speaker 7>to me. But then you know college coaches contacts that

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<v Speaker 7>I have, they'll reach out to me through email and

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<v Speaker 7>everything to tell me about a guy, or they if

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<v Speaker 7>they have my phone number, they'll give me a call

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<v Speaker 7>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you guys kind of on your own with that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, as like you said, you're the one that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of doing the evaluating.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have much help?

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I yes and no so so not really.

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<v Speaker 7>But then like the players that played for me in

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<v Speaker 7>the past, if they see a guy, they might reach

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<v Speaker 7>out and tell me, like, hey, I got a guy

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<v Speaker 7>for you, or you should take a look at him.

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<v Speaker 6>We actually had a kid in spring training.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't make the team, but one of my former

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<v Speaker 7>players before I got to Tucson reached out and told

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<v Speaker 7>me about this kid, and then I'll have, like, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys that are currently playing.

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<v Speaker 7>There's actually two college coaches on our team or three,

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<v Speaker 7>excuse me, three college coaches. One is at us W

553
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<v Speaker 7>University of Southwest. They told me about their catcher, Brian Lodesma,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you'll have we had another guy. He was

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<v Speaker 7>he was a college coach for the University of Houston Victoria,

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<v Speaker 7>and he told me about some of the players along

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<v Speaker 7>with one of our players, Carson, that came from that

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<v Speaker 7>school the year before.

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<v Speaker 6>So like, guys will.

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<v Speaker 7>Recommend guys to me because they kind of have an

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<v Speaker 7>idea of what the talent level is.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the for the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a it's a you might explain the league.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an independent league to Pecklosh League. It's fairly new,

565
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<v Speaker 2>maybe fifteen ten to fifteen years. Like I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I have a team in my hometown of

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Fe. So these kids have dreams, right, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>you have dreams to move on and move up.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you talk about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so obviously I would like to get into affiliated ball.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. For me, I'm not from.

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<v Speaker 7>Arizona, I'm from South Jersey live in Philadelphia, so it

573
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<v Speaker 7>would be a dream for me to be to get

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<v Speaker 7>into the Phillies organization. But for these kids, it's an

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity to get their foot in the door in to

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<v Speaker 7>get into higher levels. We've had players go on to

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<v Speaker 7>higher levels. For Tucson specifically, we had one kid signed

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<v Speaker 7>with the Padres organization back in twenty two and then

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<v Speaker 7>we had one kid signed with the Cubs organization in January.

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<v Speaker 6>So there you're basically for this league. You're betting on yourself.

581
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<v Speaker 6>But it is possible to give you a big name in.

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<v Speaker 7>Baseball that actually started in the Pecos League and made

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<v Speaker 7>it to the MLB. Would be Armin Mercedes and you

584
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<v Speaker 7>guys remember him from.

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<v Speaker 2>The White Short In fact, I was with one of

586
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<v Speaker 2>the guys, the hosts, three of the guys. They said

587
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<v Speaker 2>that you've already lost maybe made sure or not. Three

588
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<v Speaker 2>players moving up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So off the top of my head, one is

590
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<v Speaker 7>Julian Garcia. He's in Billings right now, billions of Mustangs

591
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<v Speaker 7>in the Pioneer League. The other one just recently signed

592
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<v Speaker 7>with the Tri City Valley Cats in the Frontier League.

593
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<v Speaker 7>I'm drawing a blank on the other one. But yeah,

594
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<v Speaker 7>guys during the season get picked up all the time

595
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<v Speaker 7>from us.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I said it's more a foot in the

597
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<v Speaker 6>door kind of league.

598
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<v Speaker 7>So obviously we want them here because they're good players

599
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<v Speaker 7>and they help us win, but ultimately we're happy to

600
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<v Speaker 7>see them go when they get into higher leagues.

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<v Speaker 4>Do the scouts come out to the games? Major league scouts?

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<v Speaker 7>I want to say they would come out. If anything,

603
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<v Speaker 7>they would watch more like online, just because it's easier

604
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<v Speaker 7>for them to watch online. Especially our our staff, especially

605
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<v Speaker 7>the play by play guys. They they set up our

606
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<v Speaker 7>cameras really well, so now you can see you can

607
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<v Speaker 7>have a better experience watching as well as going to

608
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<v Speaker 7>the field. And if you know, like some of these

609
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<v Speaker 7>scouts might not live in Arizona, so sour our camera

610
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<v Speaker 7>angles are great.

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<v Speaker 6>I watch it myself afterwards just so I can see

612
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<v Speaker 6>so some things or get more insight on guys. But

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<v Speaker 6>usually they watch the watch online.

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<v Speaker 3>So what what's your background?

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<v Speaker 2>And I say that because you must have been a

616
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<v Speaker 2>baseball guy, baseball player, and now you've been managing for

617
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<v Speaker 2>a few years. And in fact, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Dave about his kids and I know my kids are

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<v Speaker 2>just out of college or whatever, And it's a lot

620
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<v Speaker 2>of it's who you know. And I'm sure you probably

621
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<v Speaker 2>know people, and I'm sure you've already reached out to

622
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<v Speaker 2>get a job somewhere above this, so you know you

623
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<v Speaker 2>have to catch a break somewhere, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Like it's like you said, it's definitely who you

625
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<v Speaker 7>know or that help you get into these higher leagues.

626
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<v Speaker 7>It's a lot of word of mouth kind of deal.

627
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<v Speaker 6>You know.

628
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<v Speaker 7>I have a few contacts that I would say they

629
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<v Speaker 7>are my mentor. One guy played up in UH made

630
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<v Speaker 7>it up.

631
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<v Speaker 6>All the way up the Triple A Baseball.

632
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<v Speaker 7>The other UH played over in Japan professionally made a

633
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<v Speaker 7>couple of million dollars, played for the same team that

634
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<v Speaker 7>show hey Tani played for, but before Donny got there.

635
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<v Speaker 7>And like I use him as a contact a lot,

636
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<v Speaker 7>just because he is involved with If you guys ever

637
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<v Speaker 7>heard of.

638
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<v Speaker 6>Baseball United over in what where am I thinking of Dubai?

639
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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 7>So, like I've been trying to reach out of him

641
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<v Speaker 7>because just he has a lot of contacts overseas in

642
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<v Speaker 7>the US. And hopefully you know with all this winning

643
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<v Speaker 7>that I'm doing, well, mainly they're doing and I'm just

644
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<v Speaker 7>you know, standing there. Uh, maybe it'll work out for

645
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 7>me in the future.

646
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 3>And the sport. You know, you just mentioned Dubai.

647
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean we just had the World Baseball Classic there

648
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 4>at the it's a Keno Stadium, So I mean there's

649
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 4>baseball everywhere, right, I mean, I guess you got to

650
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 4>be maybe a citizen of those countries, but to play

651
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 4>on the on the the country's teams. But there's pro baseball,

652
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 4>I know, like in Germany and obviously Japan and then

653
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 4>in the Far East.

654
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

655
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 7>No, there's a baseball over the all over the world,

656
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 7>like you said, Japan, and you have Korea, you have Germany,

657
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 7>you have Australia. You have obviously mex Ago with the

658
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 7>new team coming in in the in the winter time,

659
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 7>which I think is great.

660
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 6>But like I think it's good for baseball. It's good.

661
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it's great that you guys had the Baseball

662
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 7>Classic as well. I was watching some of the games

663
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 7>since I wasn't in Tucson online and on TV as well,

664
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 7>just to follow just because I think, Yeah, it was

665
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 7>a it's great to watch. It's great to see different

666
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 7>countries really like you know, embracing.

667
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 6>Our like our sport. I call it our sport.

668
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 7>You know it's it's it's a great game to play,

669
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 7>it's a great game to watch. So I'm glad that

670
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 7>you guys had the World Baseball Classic in Tucson.

671
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.440
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that struck me.

672
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how long this has gone on,

673
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>but you're playing at Keno right, your games are at Keno.

674
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>But not too long ago, you guys were playing at

675
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>like a Reed Park or something Jerry Field. Sure, you

676
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>know you guys have come a long way.

677
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So we actually started at Keno in sixteen and

678
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 7>seventeen when I wasn't around, and then eighteen, I want

679
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 7>to say, was Reed Park, and then nineteen was Cherry Field,

680
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty was COVID, So we had to play at

681
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 7>a location in Houston, Texas where.

682
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 8>All the teams played, like I said, in one location.

683
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 7>But for twenty one we were at Anti High School,

684
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 7>and then we moved back to Keno in twenty two

685
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 7>till now, and.

686
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 6>I feel like we're gonna be there for a long time.

687
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think, like I said that the Apples

688
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>to Apples is probably the best ballpark you play in

689
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>all over.

690
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 6>The place of and that I would say, this is

691
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 6>the crown viewele of the PECOS League.

692
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Does that help you because you guys have won a lot,

693
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Does that has that helped you pride wise or performance

694
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>wise at all?

695
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 7>I would say it helps me more in the recruiting process,

696
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 7>like when I go to find players, like one of

697
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 7>the players, I would say that was like once I

698
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 7>showed him the field, he was one.

699
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 6>His name was Andrew Baker.

700
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 7>To give you a little background on him, he played

701
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 7>at the University of Florida, won a national championship with

702
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 7>them as well, So like when he saw the field,

703
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 7>he like, on I'm coming. I think the that atmosphere

704
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 7>as well gives them more of a field, like a

705
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 7>professional feel. Like you know, when I say professional field,

706
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 7>like I'm I'm more saying like like an MLB kind

707
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 7>of level kind of professional field, right, because even some

708
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 7>of these indie ball leagues, they play in minor league

709
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 7>stadiums where this one I know, this spring training facility or.

710
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 6>It was, but this field is is immaculate.

711
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, having grown up in Santa Fe and played at

712
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>four Marti Park most of my young adult life, young

713
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>before I became an adult, that's a Cracker Box compared

714
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to this.

715
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes it is. It's definitely you'll definitely see.

716
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 7>Some high scoring games. But I will say this, it's

717
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 7>it is my favorite place to visit during this like

718
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 7>during the season when we have away games. I think

719
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 7>the I think the mountains are beautiful. Being from the

720
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 7>East Coast, we don't really see mountains, but just the atmosphere.

721
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 8>They're They're very supportive in Santa Fe.

722
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I mean, like obviously, like the field is nice,

723
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 7>but it doesn't compare to you.

724
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, don't forget the food, baby, the food is fantastic.

725
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 6>That's true.

726
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 8>That's true.

727
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>And I'm assuming you guys are on your busting all

728
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 4>over the place, right, is that how this this the

729
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 4>summer plays out on buses.

730
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so it depends, right, Like, we have a budget

731
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 7>for twelve twelve passenger vans this year.

732
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 8>We were only to afford one.

733
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 7>Just because unfortunately, our our host family coordinator had to

734
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 7>walk away at briefly and that kind of put us

735
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 7>behind and finding the housing for our players.

736
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 6>So we have one van.

737
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 7>The rest well, you know, we might have to carpool,

738
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 7>but we had to use the rest of that money

739
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 7>for airbnbs. For guys until we're able to find host

740
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:05.759
<v Speaker 7>families for players.

741
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 6>So when you're the remaining players.

742
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's a it's a tough, tough league trying

743
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>to survive. What do you do when you're not coaching

744
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the Suarros?

745
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you go back home? And what do you do?

746
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 7>So when I actually, when I go back home, I

747
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 7>I actually umpire baseball.

748
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 8>Games to make some money, but uh, just so I can.

749
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 7>Stay around the game, maybe get some lessons here and there.

750
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 6>I was previously with.

751
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 7>A mortgage servicing company, working remote remotely, but I you know,

752
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.480
<v Speaker 7>I walked away from that to focus more on on

753
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 7>baseball and.

754
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 6>The recruiting process.

755
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Well it's funny because we Dave was a longtime TV

756
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>guy locally here, I was a longtime sports writer here.

757
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Now I do this.

758
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh, but you get to do what I don't know, thousands,

759
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of kids get to do or want

760
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.359
<v Speaker 2>to do. Right, You guys are playing baseball for a living,

761
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe making little scratch with it and trying to live

762
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>your dream.

763
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

764
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 8>No, I feel like I'm I'm just lucky.

765
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 6>One day they just called me, He's like, hey, do

766
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 6>you want to manage? And I was like, all right,

767
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 6>and to be honest with you.

768
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 7>Before I said that all right, I was kind of unsure.

769
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 7>But my girlfriend's the one that convinced me. She's actually

770
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 7>the reason too, why I went to Tucson back in

771
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty, because she's actually originally from Tucson, Arizona.

772
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait comes one hundred thousand dollars question? Is

773
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 2>she still with you?

774
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

775
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 3>So she knows how much money you're making?

776
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 7>Yes, she she When the previous team I was with

777
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 7>was called the High Desert yard Birds, and the commissioner

778
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 7>called me because that team was going to fold for

779
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 7>the twenty twenty season.

780
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 6>He called me, He's like, you can go to Rosala,

781
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 6>you can go to Tucson.

782
00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 7>And I had to speakerphone, and she just looked at

783
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 7>me and I already knew I'm going to tou Song.

784
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well so you are married?

785
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, pretty much. But I was the best decision

786
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 7>that I that she helped me make.

787
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, welcome to your future. Well, Sean, we appreciate your time.

788
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>When do you guys come back?

789
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 7>We'll be back Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday against the Alpine

790
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 7>their second they're the second place team in.

791
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 6>Our Division while we're the first place. So definitely a

792
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 6>big series will be a lot of good baseball. So

793
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 6>come on out if you if you can.

794
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 3>What's the July stuff or no?

795
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately, I know Keino has the College fourth of July game,

796
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 7>but we'll be back on the fifth and six against

797
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 7>Santa Fe.

798
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually, okay, cool, cool, maybe we'll go see Thanks a bunch, Sean.

799
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Good luck to you this weekend. Well now in Packholston

800
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 2>when you come.

801
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 6>Back, all right, appreciate it.

802
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>You guys have a good res too. Good luck tonight.

803
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Take care. Wow that was shut Sean mc from from

804
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the Tucson.

805
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It's uh, it's yeah, you learned more and more. We

806
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't even ask him some tough questions because I did.

807
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Probably don't make a whole lot of money. But they're

808
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 2>out there doing what they want to do.

809
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 4>No, I think that's that's the key is they're just

810
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 4>trying to extend their their time in baseball, and you know,

811
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 4>maybe somewhere along the line, someone's going to pick some

812
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 4>of these players up. Remember we had a Tucson Toros

813
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 4>came back and there were later incarnation.

814
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 3>They had an independent league team and a few of

815
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 3>those guys made it.

816
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 4>I think a handful on that team eventually got out

817
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 4>of Tucson onto a you know, professional minor.

818
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 3>League team, and a couple of made the majors. So

819
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 3>it can happen.

820
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's pretty good baseball too, if you if

821
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 2>you're you know, Jones in for baseball at a certain level,

822
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it's, uh, it's not the big League, is not

823
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Triple A.

824
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 4>But it's pretty good now in Tucson. As he was saying,

825
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 4>they're eighteen and four. They're really good at home, and

826
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 4>they're really good on the road. Actually there's seven and

827
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 4>one at home and eleven and three on the road,

828
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 4>so they're playing some He must have an eye for

829
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 4>talent because, like I say, he'd want a lot over

830
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 4>the last few years.

831
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, and winning is difficult, especially in baseball.

832
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm looking at the teams and I'm gonna

833
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 4>think that Tucson might be the biggest city market in

834
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 4>the in the in the entire league. So I mean

835
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 4>we're talking Alpine. I mean, I've been to Alpine, Texas.

836
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 4>But tell me give me a it's like on the

837
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 4>road to Big Bend. Okay, God, that's that's nowhere down

838
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 4>there yet. Now I've never been. I've been to Big Bend.

839
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:26.599
<v Speaker 4>That's why I say, wow.

840
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of down in that direction. So I

841
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 2>have the borders right there. It's yeah, Roswell. I've never

842
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>there's New Mexico. Have never been to Roswell's not Roswell.

843
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's Marfa. Ever heard of Marfa? Yeah, Marfa Lights.

844
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we went down there a couple of times

845
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>for family. But yeah, that's it's pretty small, about seventy there.

846
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, they all all they have is this and

847
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 2>they talk about this stuff all the time.

848
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's Santa Fan in the summer is beautiful, fantastic.

849
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 6>I go back.

850
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people go back, right, Yeah, might go

851
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>back all the time. Opera whatever, different opera, just as

852
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the show's shops and all that stuff. H yeah. Yeah.

853
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>The richest people in Santa Fe are wearing brag tag

854
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 2>clothes because they are artists. They are artists or sculptures.

855
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>You know that just you would never know that that's

856
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia O'Keeffe guy or the woman.

857
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to our in the ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Riverta, your Dave Silver

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<v Speaker 2>is good to get ahold of Sean You on a

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<v Speaker 2>winning out there. Yeah, we have to go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and help some popcorn and the beer, go.

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<v Speaker 3>Out and watch some summertime baseball in Tucson. Summertime.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't done that forever because WBC was for February

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<v Speaker 2>than it was anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that was nice. Weather was nice then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little cold because it was winding members. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, you did some of the games.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be it'll be interesting to see how that, I mean,

932
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 4>the franchise has been around there there. I guess this

933
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 4>league must be financially pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know it is from the top, yeah,

936
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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I think they fund everybody.

937
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of teams in that league in some

938
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<v Speaker 4>pretty small towns.

939
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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they're gonna go ahead and watch some some

941
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<v Speaker 4>guys that are, you know, maybe still have that dream

942
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<v Speaker 4>of getting into at least a professional organization or a

943
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<v Speaker 4>major league organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, yeah, yeah, people have different dreams. I'd

945
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<v Speaker 2>get to the college, play there and see what happens

946
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 2>after that. Maybe you'll get seen, Maybe you have a

947
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<v Speaker 2>little niche that you can find. Yeah, you know, and

948
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you see college guys. You saw the college groups over

949
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<v Speaker 2>the weekend or the last two weeks, and how good

950
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<v Speaker 2>these players are.

951
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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of those guys if they don't get

952
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<v Speaker 4>drafted or or you know, turn pro or you know,

953
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<v Speaker 4>leave school, they have other places to go while they're

954
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<v Speaker 4>still in college. They can go to the Cape Cod leagues,

955
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<v Speaker 4>they can go to other places around the country and

956
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<v Speaker 4>play in the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, well, you notice that the schools that

958
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<v Speaker 2>he was mentioning were like, you know, D two D

959
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<v Speaker 2>the smaller, you know, connected West. But but then you

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<v Speaker 2>then he throws out the Florida school. Yeah so that

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<v Speaker 2>was like really okay, yeah, you just you just wonder.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and if he has connections, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>the main thing for someone like you know this this

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<v Speaker 4>team is for him to have connections, him to know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's time I need to get ten players. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>where do I look and he can start making some

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<v Speaker 4>phone calls and try to sell people to come here

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<v Speaker 4>and to play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like like where we'll go see tomorrow, you know

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<v Speaker 2>with the draft, and you just got to be on

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<v Speaker 2>top of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what's going to fit with your with your team.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think fillow that. I think that Tommy does this

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Lout did this well, and some some of

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<v Speaker 2>the coaches, and I'm sure there's thousands of other coaches

978
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<v Speaker 2>that do this well.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they fit the team scheme, with.

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<v Speaker 2>The personalities and the but some of them just go

981
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<v Speaker 2>after talent and it doesn't work, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just talking about the The Rutgers team didn't

983
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<v Speaker 2>have a good season, I think a losing record impact,

984
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<v Speaker 2>but they had two of the best players in the

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<v Speaker 2>in in the college game who might be playing pro.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know that coach can turn around and say, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>you know we might you know.

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<v Speaker 3>We need Look what I can do.

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<v Speaker 4>I can develop to you know, top five traftics even

990
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<v Speaker 4>though we go you know below five hundred is a record.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's kind of strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you this. You talked about that,

993
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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of laughed. Because I know you're not

994
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<v Speaker 2>being serious. But Sean had these guys, right, he had

995
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<v Speaker 2>these guys, but they were already He had the agents,

996
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<v Speaker 2>they had the Aaron Gordon's and the and whom and

997
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<v Speaker 2>Whomever's trier blah blah blah. They they were already going pro.

998
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>They just needed a place to land for nine months exactly.

999
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<v Speaker 2>They didn't develop NBA skills here, they were already developed.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it's it's interesting too, that's you know, Carter

1001
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 4>Bryant kind of.

1002
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>The same different, same difference. He didn't even play that much.

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<v Speaker 4>DeAndre eight and played a lot while he was here,

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00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 4>as did Treer people like that. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>Carter Bryant, I you know, you look at you go, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got a great, great looking shot he's got he's

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<v Speaker 4>very athletic, he's good defensively, seems like a good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you know what else are they looking at?

1009
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<v Speaker 2>There's not much right size right right because and I've

1010
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<v Speaker 2>said this before, uh when and I this is my

1011
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<v Speaker 2>pet peep. So you end the game in November, you

1012
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>kick some team by twenty even if it's a good game,

1013
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and the guys sit down and look at their stats

1014
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<v Speaker 2>and how those stats kind of like really percterize or

1015
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.400
<v Speaker 2>they want to have stats. It's not about stats because

1016
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<v Speaker 2>if Kobe or not Kobe, I'm sorry, Carter didn't have

1017
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>stats because Jay Day, if you're good enough, guess what

1018
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 2>they'll find you and it doesn't matter about your stats,

1019
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>and then you get to develop through them because I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt it. I doubt if Carter's going to play a

1021
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<v Speaker 2>lot next year, no matter where he goes. But it's

1022
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<v Speaker 2>not about next year. It's about two or three years

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<v Speaker 2>down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've got great scouts and they'll, you know, they'll

1025
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<v Speaker 4>work these players out. I'm sure you know they all

1026
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<v Speaker 4>kind of the teams know when they're drafting. That's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things about the Suns is up until this

1028
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<v Speaker 4>this train the other day, they were not going to

1029
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<v Speaker 4>be drafting in the top ten, so they probably weren't

1030
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<v Speaker 4>looking at those types of players. And all of a sudden,

1031
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<v Speaker 4>they're getting the tenth pick, right, and who they going

1032
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<v Speaker 4>to pick? Who they who have even worked out over

1033
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<v Speaker 4>the last you know, two months since the season, and

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<v Speaker 4>so kind of in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pickle right right, So now we're going to have Doug Holler,

1036
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<v Speaker 2>who covers the Suns for the athletic Maybe he has

1037
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<v Speaker 2>some insight.

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00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know him.

1039
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<v Speaker 2>When I covered a day to day for the Citizen

1040
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<v Speaker 2>many years ago, i'd go up and see, uh, you

1041
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<v Speaker 2>know Arizona's people when they'd when they'd have workouts for

1042
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<v Speaker 2>the for the Suns, and and that was, you know,

1043
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe courtesy workouts. They've bring a bunch of people in

1044
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and out, so we'll see maybe even the diversions.

1045
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's funny. Maybe I'm just not seeing

1046
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 4>it as much as we used to see it. But

1047
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they even do that much anymore.

1048
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<v Speaker 4>They'll bring in a group, like they'll bring in like

1049
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<v Speaker 4>five guys. I think they still do that, do they?

1050
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I was just reading the story about the

1051
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>kids at Rutgers and the Bailey kid refused all workouts.

1052
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<v Speaker 2>He didn't go anywhere. He had some plan and then

1053
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<v Speaker 2>he said, no, I'm not going to go. And people

1054
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<v Speaker 2>are saying that's kind of immatures as well. I'm just living.

1055
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just doing what I do whatever.

1056
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you hear about that sometimes with the football players too,

1057
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 4>where they don't do workouts or they're they're just going

1058
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 4>to do the interviews and they're not going to you know, throw.

1059
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 3>For the coaches or do whatever.

1060
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<v Speaker 4>So it seems to be you know, their agents talking

1061
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 4>or their families talking and saying, you know, you might

1062
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<v Speaker 4>have something to lose if you go out there and

1063
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<v Speaker 4>show them something they don't want to see.

1064
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<v Speaker 2>Was there a player just said, don't question me. I

1065
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<v Speaker 2>just came up with it. Was there a player you

1066
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>thought was a sure bet here that didn't make it

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<v Speaker 2>even in our day, even in our day, And what's

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00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>sport basketball? Basketball, because that's very apparent football would be difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think most of them that we thought were gonna

1071
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 4>go and have decent careers, I mean that was always

1072
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.679
<v Speaker 4>kind of loots mantra was, I don't want these guys

1073
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 4>just to go up there and play for a year

1074
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 4>or two.

1075
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to have a career. And they and they

1076
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 3>did that. Many of them did well. The one guy

1077
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 3>that could.

1078
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Have been much better than what he was, and that

1079
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>was no fault of his own, was Michael Dickerson. Well,

1080
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>because he was fantastic, then he got hurt, growing the

1081
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 2>growing injury, and he kind of just faded away.

1082
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Miles.

1083
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I think more people had high hopes for Miles, but

1084
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 2>he was not an NBA guy.

1085
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 4>No, he was a college guy. You're right about Dickers.

1086
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.920
<v Speaker 4>About Michael. Actually, I saw him, I don't know, maybe

1087
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 4>in the last ten years or something here in Tucson.

1088
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 3>He was around different, looks a little different, it's different,

1089
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and he.

1090
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 4>Was really friendly and he remembered me, which was that

1091
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 4>guy was like shocked that, you know, a good kid

1092
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>who I was.

1093
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 3>But it was really nice to just kind of catch

1094
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:28.119
<v Speaker 3>up with him.

1095
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 2>He loved he stayed with the Olsen's. He stayed with

1096
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>him whenever he's in town. He was like kind of

1097
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>like their adopted son, because you know, he was just

1098
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Michael Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1100
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I think he had either relatives in Phoenix or Tucson. Still,

1101
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:40.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure exactly how it worked out, but he

1102
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden he showed up at this one

1103
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.920
<v Speaker 4>gem and he was he was just yeah, yeah, I think.

1104
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 2>He does that every still, because he's kind of like

1105
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.760
<v Speaker 2>a maverick, just kind of in and out of places.

1106
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he was Yeah, that's a good that's a

1107
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 4>good example of one. Because most of the guys who

1108
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 4>you thought would make it made it.

1109
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Rooks and the Buchlers and the you know

1110
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>during my time the Chris Mills and he had the

1111
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>most unbelievable career and he's still living living that life.

1112
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean he's you know, TJ's kind of following in

1113
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 4>his footsteps very much.

1114
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 3>So maybe even more. It's a part of the of

1115
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.159
<v Speaker 3>the team, is the Kurr was.

1116
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, imagine his future coaching to coaching too, because you

1117
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 2>know that's going to happen, or broadcasting or broadcasting. Yeah, yeah,

1118
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I would assume that he'd be a pretty good coach

1119
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 2>like his dad, you know whatever back in the day. Yeah,

1120
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and that whole family is just a basketball thing. It's

1121
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the Sean Miller family. You know, basketball

1122
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>was their life.

1123
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

1124
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Their dad was the coach and him, Sean and his

1125
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 2>brother were the players.

1126
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 3>On the coach and they were all from Pittsburgh to

1127
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 3>r P. I probably know each other.

1128
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's high school year. I think that's why Sean

1129
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>brought him here. Probably thought a lot looked a lot

1130
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like him, you know, this dogged guy, just the leader type,

1131
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 2>makes total sense.

1132
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.039
<v Speaker 3>I vaguely remember him when he played at pitt Do

1133
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 3>you remember? I do?

1134
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<v Speaker 14>I do?

1135
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Because of his eyes and his intensity and thought throwing

1136
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in Jerome.

1137
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know you remember that one played but you know,

1138
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 3>and I.

1139
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<v Speaker 4>Think this is eighty nine ninety yeah maybe no, I

1140
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 4>think it was like eighty eight, eighty nine.

1141
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he played there, but that that play was

1142
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>like later on ninety ninety one maybe, yeah, but he

1143
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 2>was out there and he was just this guard right this, uh, this, this.

1144
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Is just the point guard.

1145
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 4>McCoy had a couple of NBA players on the front line,

1146
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 4>if I remember, Jerome and Charles Smith one of those

1147
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of guys.

1148
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't remember exactly.

1149
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 2>And they played here. They played there as well back

1150
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 2>in the day. So okay, we have about a minute, Dave,

1151
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back. No breaking news. Maybe we'll take a

1152
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 2>call or two early on. And then talked to Doug

1153
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Holler about the Suns and uh maybe Asu.

1154
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he's covering some issues.

1155
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1156
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's been a busy, busy offseason up there,

1157
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 4>and the son's you know, making a big trade the

1158
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 4>other day, totally switching up the team again for like

1159
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 4>the second or third time in the last like three

1160
00:50:59.760 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>or four.

1161
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 2>It's been a tough haul pretty much all of our

1162
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>time in Arizona for me and they you know, ninety

1163
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 2>three was pretty good, and then the COVID year when

1164
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>they went did really well, and then a couple of

1165
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 2>years ago when they went to the finals and then

1166
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>lost kind of like in an industry.

1167
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was just we seem to have had such

1168
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 4>a really good team, you know, a young team with

1169
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 4>eighton and with Cal Bridges and Cam Johnson and people

1170
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 4>like that, and then they just blow it up, bringing

1171
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Durant and then they get rid of them, right. So

1172
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 4>it's just been an interesting Dave stretch. What have you

1173
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 4>done for me lately?

1174
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 7>Man?

1175
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 3>So what have you done for late lately? Okay, let's

1176
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 3>take a break and come back.
