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<v Speaker 1>Seven six fifty five par Ce Talk Station by Tonis

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<v Speaker 1>Fish and everybody a very happy Monday, and welcoming back

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifty five Parsee Morning Show FLP President Chapter

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine since I Police Departments Union, it's Ken Cober,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Can It's always great having you on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Than good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So this protest they had downtown I understand, is that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty one protest just basically expressing out loud anger

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<v Speaker 1>against the Trump administration, screaming fascism and all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Uh, and these are happening more and more often,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, mayor I have toab pervol was down there

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<v Speaker 1>joining in the crowd? Were there any you know, police

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<v Speaker 1>involved incidents or incidents where the police had to be involved,

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<v Speaker 1>was it violent? What did the cause any property destruction?

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<v Speaker 1>And did they have a permit? And one what was

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<v Speaker 1>one necessary? I guess a lot of questions to throw

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<v Speaker 1>out you once can but sum it up for my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners of me, would you please yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well sure, there were about forty policemen there that were

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<v Speaker 3>either on canceled off days, so instead of being in

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<v Speaker 3>the communities that they normally serve they're down there, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were down there primarily because there was a large

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<v Speaker 3>group of people that were blocking streets and know they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a permit.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the biggest exception that I take with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I support their First Amendment right to go protest and

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<v Speaker 3>be mad at the things they want to be mad at. However,

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<v Speaker 3>it costs the city roughly fifteen thousand dollars for police

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<v Speaker 3>protection that the city paid for when they're supposedly in

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<v Speaker 3>a crisis now where they're asking city departments to cut

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<v Speaker 3>five percent of their budget and we're just giving them

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<v Speaker 3>free service.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Flying Pig doesn't get that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Taste the Cincinnati Octoberfest, all those events have

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<v Speaker 3>to get permits to close streets, and I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand why this group is any different.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I understand why the mayor of the city

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<v Speaker 1>is sincin and that it was there egging people on

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<v Speaker 1>and participating in street closures when he, more than anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>should know that a permit is required to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he more than anyone should know about the budget

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<v Speaker 1>issues that we are facing and the idea that well

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer is going to be paying for all this

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<v Speaker 1>extra law enforcement. It's absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, completely agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's said I support their right to protest,

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<v Speaker 3>but they need to do at their expense, not the cities,

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<v Speaker 3>not the taxpayers. So I'm sure there were taxpayers that

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<v Speaker 3>are paying for some of this that probably didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the same to used as them.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the biggest exception I take to this. And

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<v Speaker 2>then to have the.

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor there on top of it, where they're engaging in

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<v Speaker 3>an unlawful activity by closing the streets without a permit

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<v Speaker 3>is unlawful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, given that it is unlawful, seeing to me, it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been a nice thing to do just to

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<v Speaker 1>arrest the mayor. I mean, if you're going to arrest

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and make an illustration of the unlawful reality of

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, why not just make it the figurehead

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<v Speaker 1>of the City of Cincinnatian government.

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<v Speaker 2>That would make some headlines, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be great, and then you'd have to go

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<v Speaker 1>on and defend himself that I mean, did anybody with

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<v Speaker 1>the police department reach out like Teresa Thiji or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just hey, listen to aftab. What you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>here isn't lawful? And you might want to address that

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<v Speaker 1>and do something about.

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<v Speaker 3>It, not that I'm aware of now. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>suspect that they're going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I suppose this type of thing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue, then, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're going to continue to have these protests,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to continue not to get permits, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the police will be there to continue

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<v Speaker 3>to protect them at the taxpayer's expense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, protecting them and engaging in activity. Is it criminal

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<v Speaker 1>activity to shut down a street without a permit?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it rise to a level of a misdemeanor or

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<v Speaker 1>a sitable offense?

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<v Speaker 3>One would argue, yes, it is absolutely illegal, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>you're the one that's trying to get around to this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, through the city in a vehicle and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't because there's large groups of people that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are blocking traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one would say that that is probably an arrestable offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, were the police officers instructed not to issue citations?

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<v Speaker 3>I would suspect that answer is also yes. Absolutely, they

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<v Speaker 3>were there to make sure that these folks are safe,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly what occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe in their unlawful conduct. H correct, I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult time reconciling those two positions there, Ken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's no different than they had a event Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, yesterday was four twenty where there was encourage

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<v Speaker 3>to smoke marijuana in public.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some officers that raise the question as to

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<v Speaker 2>how can we do this?

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<v Speaker 3>And the city law department has told the police department

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<v Speaker 3>that there is no expectation to enforce this law. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's where we're at with city government right now in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically encouraging lawless this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's I've got the email that's there

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<v Speaker 3>is no expectation to enforce this law.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a sorry state of affairs.

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<v Speaker 3>Can.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're you're just telling us the facts, but

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<v Speaker 1>that really, I mean, I can't feel anything good but

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<v Speaker 1>sort of almost despair over that situation, especially noting that

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor was actively engaged in blocking the streets and protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked, I honestly can I'm shocked. What's the general

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<v Speaker 1>consensus among the police officers you talked to. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine they're a little disappointed at themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's how I ended up you know, finding out

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<v Speaker 3>about this is you know, I had some officers that

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<v Speaker 3>were there working that were kind of complaining that this

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<v Speaker 3>just isn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why is this? Why are they allowed to do this?

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<v Speaker 3>But if some people have to get permits, some people don't,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're there to do a job, which is

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<v Speaker 3>to protect this people, which is what they did, and

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<v Speaker 3>they did it with the utmost professionalism. But the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the they're allowed to do these things without a permit,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so that's the biggest issue that I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand well selective law enforcement. And I suppose one may

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<v Speaker 1>argue that if it wasn't this fifty one fifty group,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a bunch of you know, uh picket

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<v Speaker 1>fill in the blank with any other type of activity organization,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, pick an offensive one like you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a clan member rally or something, I imagine a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people will be rounded up and issued citations

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<v Speaker 1>for breaking the law. But because it's these leftists that

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<v Speaker 1>are backed by the mayor, then they get a free pass.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's disturbing, Ken Cobra, It's just disturbing, also

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing and pivoting over violence on the Bank's question, should

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<v Speaker 1>we stay the hell away from the banks downtown at night,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know it's kind of it's obviously widely reported

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of crime there Ken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's getting harder and harder to tell people that

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<v Speaker 3>it's safe that they should go down there when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these shootings are seem to be occurring every weekend there.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a shame because it's such a neat area,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and the Reds are in town, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but it gets to a certain point in the night

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just it's overrun with criminals. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the shame, because it is a really really neat place

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the more the word gets out about violence,

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<v Speaker 1>the fewer few people are gonna want to go downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>And all these efforts to remake Cincinnati and try to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage people to want to invest in and live in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati, that they can't go anywhere unless

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<v Speaker 1>you get a handle on crime and make it appear

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<v Speaker 1>at least that the city is a safe place to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a shame because the people that are causing

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<v Speaker 3>these you know, violent encounters. They're not down there patronizing

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<v Speaker 3>these businesses anyway. They're down there to try to start

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<v Speaker 3>trouble and it ruins it for the good people of

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati that are that are there to patronize these businesses

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, go have a drink, have dinner, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're end up getting caught in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Middle of a shooting. And it's just it's it's ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>that it goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this young people like youth violence, maybe like miners

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<v Speaker 1>that are running around with firearms, or are these adults

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<v Speaker 1>down there running around with firearms? Is it a mixed

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<v Speaker 1>bag of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a mixed bag. There's no rhyme or reason.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll have thirty forty fifty kids running around there, You'll

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<v Speaker 3>creating chaos, and then you'll have people in their early

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<v Speaker 2>There's no real rhyme or reason. It's just for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>people want to go down there.

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<v Speaker 3>You said, these people aren't patronizing these businesses, they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're just waiting to find a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and without a substantial police presence and police officers

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<v Speaker 1>who have been instructed to issue citations otherwise round people

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<v Speaker 1>up and arrest them. I can only imagine it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get worse, Ken, Yeah, and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the problem is they're being told they don't

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<v Speaker 3>do anything just standing there. I mean, we had somebody

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean having a police presence there isn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>going to deter it. When you have people that are

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<v Speaker 3>just held bent on being criminals.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and also noting full well that the justice system

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to hold them accountable even if they

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<v Speaker 1>are arrested. We've got a real problem with that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the word has gotten out. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>open border situation. When the whole world found out that

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't enforcing our own borders. The whole world showed

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<v Speaker 1>up and came into the United States. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if they aren't going to prosecute people to the fullest

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<v Speaker 1>extent of the law and make examples out of violent people,

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<v Speaker 1>then we may as well just go ahead and engage

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<v Speaker 1>in violence. Nobody's going to hold us accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs right now in

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<v Speaker 3>Hamilton County, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken. I wish you had more positive information for my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and me, but it is what it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've obviously illustrated a problem we've got on our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's start with the mayor. Next time, arrest the mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. How's that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like you said, that would make fantastic headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep my fingers across that happens. Ken, Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the time my listening to me today, and God

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<v Speaker 1>bless you and each and every one of this insane

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<v Speaker 1>police department officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, thanks for having.

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<v Speaker 1>Me anytime anytime, seven sixteen fifty five K see the

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<v Speaker 1>talk station JAS. That's sad, gonna reelect him anyway. We're

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting on the passing of the pope this morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>my Catholic friends out there are probably feeling that a

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<v Speaker 1>little sad about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Gay to Heaven Cemetery, perfect place for reflection. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeously maintained a cemetery. They have rolling hills, mature trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Landscaping is guard gorgeous in this time of year with

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<v Speaker 1>the flowers coming up. It's just nice winding roads pathways

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<v Speaker 1>you can just take a nice stroll through there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good for you to get you out of the house

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<v Speaker 1>and away from the computer for a while. Check out

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<v Speaker 1>the seasonal flowers, the trim lawns, reflective water features. Really

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<v Speaker 1>trankful place, perfect location for prayer and reflection. So you

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<v Speaker 1>find comfort and peace in the cemetery's quiet, reverence surroundings.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's literally open to everyone to enjoy. And they've

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<v Speaker 1>been ministering the trasity for more than seventy seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>honoring life on sacred ground. To learn more, just go

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<v Speaker 1>to Gate of Heaven dot org. That's Gate of Heaven

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<v Speaker 1>dot org.

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