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Speaker 1: Fish and everybody a very happy Monday, and welcoming back
Speaker 1: to the fifty five Parsee Morning Show FLP President Chapter
Speaker 1: sixty nine since I Police Departments Union, it's Ken Cober,
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Can It's always great having you on the program.
Speaker 2: Than good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So this protest they had downtown I understand, is that
Speaker 1: fifty fifty one protest just basically expressing out loud anger
Speaker 1: against the Trump administration, screaming fascism and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Uh, and these are happening more and more often,
Speaker 1: I guess, mayor I have toab pervol was down there
Speaker 1: joining in the crowd? Were there any you know, police
Speaker 1: involved incidents or incidents where the police had to be involved,
Speaker 1: was it violent? What did the cause any property destruction?
Speaker 1: And did they have a permit? And one what was
Speaker 1: one necessary? I guess a lot of questions to throw
Speaker 1: out you once can but sum it up for my
Speaker 1: listeners of me, would you please yeah?
Speaker 3: Well sure, there were about forty policemen there that were
Speaker 3: either on canceled off days, so instead of being in
Speaker 3: the communities that they normally serve they're down there, and
Speaker 3: they were down there primarily because there was a large
Speaker 3: group of people that were blocking streets and know they
Speaker 3: didn't have a permit.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the biggest exception that I take with this.
Speaker 3: I support their First Amendment right to go protest and
Speaker 3: be mad at the things they want to be mad at. However,
Speaker 3: it costs the city roughly fifteen thousand dollars for police
Speaker 3: protection that the city paid for when they're supposedly in
Speaker 3: a crisis now where they're asking city departments to cut
Speaker 3: five percent of their budget and we're just giving them
Speaker 3: free service.
Speaker 2: You know, Flying Pig doesn't get that.
Speaker 3: You know, Taste the Cincinnati Octoberfest, all those events have
Speaker 3: to get permits to close streets, and I just don't
Speaker 3: understand why this group is any different.
Speaker 1: Well, and I understand why the mayor of the city
Speaker 1: is sincin and that it was there egging people on
Speaker 1: and participating in street closures when he, more than anyone,
Speaker 1: should know that a permit is required to do that,
Speaker 1: and he more than anyone should know about the budget
Speaker 1: issues that we are facing and the idea that well
Speaker 1: the taxpayer is going to be paying for all this
Speaker 1: extra law enforcement. It's absurd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree.
Speaker 3: I mean it's said I support their right to protest,
Speaker 3: but they need to do at their expense, not the cities,
Speaker 3: not the taxpayers. So I'm sure there were taxpayers that
Speaker 3: are paying for some of this that probably didn't have
Speaker 3: the same to used as them.
Speaker 2: And that's the biggest exception I take to this. And
Speaker 2: then to have the.
Speaker 3: Mayor there on top of it, where they're engaging in
Speaker 3: an unlawful activity by closing the streets without a permit
Speaker 3: is unlawful.
Speaker 1: Well, given that it is unlawful, seeing to me, it
Speaker 1: might have been a nice thing to do just to
Speaker 1: arrest the mayor. I mean, if you're going to arrest
Speaker 1: somebody and make an illustration of the unlawful reality of
Speaker 1: what they're doing, why not just make it the figurehead
Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnatian government.
Speaker 2: That would make some headlines, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great, and then you'd have to go
Speaker 1: on and defend himself that I mean, did anybody with
Speaker 1: the police department reach out like Teresa Thiji or maybe
Speaker 1: you know, just hey, listen to aftab. What you're doing
Speaker 1: here isn't lawful? And you might want to address that
Speaker 1: and do something about.
Speaker 3: It, not that I'm aware of now. No, I don't
Speaker 3: suspect that they're going to.
Speaker 1: Well, then I suppose this type of thing is going
Speaker 1: to continue, then, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to continue to have these protests,
Speaker 3: They're going to continue not to get permits, and they're
Speaker 3: going to have the police will be there to continue
Speaker 3: to protect them at the taxpayer's expense.
Speaker 1: Well, protecting them and engaging in activity. Is it criminal
Speaker 1: activity to shut down a street without a permit?
Speaker 3: I mean, is it?
Speaker 1: Does it rise to a level of a misdemeanor or
Speaker 1: a sitable offense?
Speaker 3: One would argue, yes, it is absolutely illegal, especially if
Speaker 3: you're the one that's trying to get around to this,
Speaker 3: you know, through the city in a vehicle and you
Speaker 3: can't because there's large groups of people that.
Speaker 2: Are blocking traffic.
Speaker 3: Yes, one would say that that is probably an arrestable offense.
Speaker 1: Well, were the police officers instructed not to issue citations?
Speaker 3: I would suspect that answer is also yes. Absolutely, they
Speaker 3: were there to make sure that these folks are safe,
Speaker 3: and that's exactly what occurred.
Speaker 1: Safe in their unlawful conduct. H correct, I'm having a
Speaker 1: difficult time reconciling those two positions there, Ken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's no different than they had a event Sunday.
Speaker 3: Of course, yesterday was four twenty where there was encourage
Speaker 3: to smoke marijuana in public.
Speaker 2: There are some officers that raise the question as to
Speaker 2: how can we do this?
Speaker 3: And the city law department has told the police department
Speaker 3: that there is no expectation to enforce this law. So
Speaker 3: that's where we're at with city government right now in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: So basically encouraging lawless this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I've got the email that's there
Speaker 3: is no expectation to enforce this law.
Speaker 1: Well that's a sorry state of affairs.
Speaker 3: Can.
Speaker 1: I know you're you're just telling us the facts, but
Speaker 1: that really, I mean, I can't feel anything good but
Speaker 1: sort of almost despair over that situation, especially noting that
Speaker 1: the mayor was actively engaged in blocking the streets and protesting.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked, I honestly can I'm shocked. What's the general
Speaker 1: consensus among the police officers you talked to. I got
Speaker 1: to imagine they're a little disappointed at themselves.
Speaker 3: Well that's how I ended up you know, finding out
Speaker 3: about this is you know, I had some officers that
Speaker 3: were there working that were kind of complaining that this
Speaker 3: just isn't right.
Speaker 2: Why why is this? Why are they allowed to do this?
Speaker 3: But if some people have to get permits, some people don't,
Speaker 3: you know, they're there to do a job, which is
Speaker 3: to protect this people, which is what they did, and
Speaker 3: they did it with the utmost professionalism. But the fact
Speaker 3: that the they're allowed to do these things without a permit,
Speaker 3: that's so that's the biggest issue that I just don't.
Speaker 1: Understand well selective law enforcement. And I suppose one may
Speaker 1: argue that if it wasn't this fifty one fifty group,
Speaker 1: and it was a bunch of you know, uh picket
Speaker 1: fill in the blank with any other type of activity organization,
Speaker 1: I mean, pick an offensive one like you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a clan member rally or something, I imagine a whole
Speaker 1: lot of people will be rounded up and issued citations
Speaker 1: for breaking the law. But because it's these leftists that
Speaker 1: are backed by the mayor, then they get a free pass.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just it's disturbing, Ken Cobra, It's just disturbing, also
Speaker 1: disturbing and pivoting over violence on the Bank's question, should
Speaker 1: we stay the hell away from the banks downtown at night,
Speaker 1: because I know it's kind of it's obviously widely reported
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of crime there Ken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting harder and harder to tell people that
Speaker 3: it's safe that they should go down there when you know,
Speaker 3: these shootings are seem to be occurring every weekend there.
Speaker 3: And it's a shame because it's such a neat area,
Speaker 3: you know, and the Reds are in town, you know,
Speaker 3: but it gets to a certain point in the night
Speaker 3: and it's just it's overrun with criminals. And that's that's
Speaker 3: the shame, because it is a really really neat place
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: And you know, the more the word gets out about violence,
Speaker 1: the fewer few people are gonna want to go downtown.
Speaker 1: And all these efforts to remake Cincinnati and try to
Speaker 1: encourage people to want to invest in and live in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, that they can't go anywhere unless
Speaker 1: you get a handle on crime and make it appear
Speaker 1: at least that the city is a safe place to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame because the people that are causing
Speaker 3: these you know, violent encounters. They're not down there patronizing
Speaker 3: these businesses anyway. They're down there to try to start
Speaker 3: trouble and it ruins it for the good people of
Speaker 3: Cincinnati that are that are there to patronize these businesses
Speaker 3: to you know, go have a drink, have dinner, and
Speaker 3: you know, they're end up getting caught in the.
Speaker 2: Middle of a shooting. And it's just it's it's ridiculous
Speaker 2: that it goes on.
Speaker 1: Is this young people like youth violence, maybe like miners
Speaker 1: that are running around with firearms, or are these adults
Speaker 1: down there running around with firearms? Is it a mixed
Speaker 1: bag of everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mixed bag. There's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 3: They'll have thirty forty fifty kids running around there, You'll
Speaker 3: creating chaos, and then you'll have people in their early
Speaker 3: twenties shooting each other.
Speaker 2: There's no real rhyme or reason. It's just for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: people want to go down there.
Speaker 3: You said, these people aren't patronizing these businesses, they're they're
Speaker 3: they're just waiting to find a victim.
Speaker 1: Well, and without a substantial police presence and police officers
Speaker 1: who have been instructed to issue citations otherwise round people
Speaker 1: up and arrest them. I can only imagine it's going
Speaker 1: to get worse, Ken, Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 3: Part of the problem is they're being told they don't
Speaker 3: do anything just standing there. I mean, we had somebody
Speaker 3: shot in front of a policeman last summer.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So I mean having a police presence there isn't necessarily
Speaker 3: going to deter it. When you have people that are
Speaker 3: just held bent on being criminals.
Speaker 1: Well and also noting full well that the justice system
Speaker 1: is not going to hold them accountable even if they
Speaker 1: are arrested. We've got a real problem with that, and
Speaker 1: I think the word has gotten out. It's like the
Speaker 1: open border situation. When the whole world found out that
Speaker 1: we weren't enforcing our own borders. The whole world showed
Speaker 1: up and came into the United States. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: if they aren't going to prosecute people to the fullest
Speaker 1: extent of the law and make examples out of violent people,
Speaker 1: then we may as well just go ahead and engage
Speaker 1: in violence. Nobody's going to hold us accountable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs right now in
Speaker 3: Hamilton County, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Ken. I wish you had more positive information for my
Speaker 1: listeners and me, but it is what it is, and
Speaker 1: you've obviously illustrated a problem we've got on our hands.
Speaker 1: And let's start with the mayor. Next time, arrest the mayor.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. How's that?
Speaker 2: I think, like you said, that would make fantastic headlines.
Speaker 1: I'll keep my fingers across that happens. Ken, Thanks to
Speaker 1: spend the time my listening to me today, and God
Speaker 1: bless you and each and every one of this insane
Speaker 1: police department officers.
Speaker 2: Sure, thanks for having.
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