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<v Speaker 1>The Dodgers are back in action tomorrow night, opening up

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<v Speaker 1>a three game series against the Chicago Cubs, first time

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers will see the Cubs since Tokyo, and on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night. It will be a nationally televised broadcast. That

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<v Speaker 1>means the Sunday Night Baseball crew will be in town,

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<v Speaker 1>including my favorite Buster Only, my favorite guy from Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Ben or Jerry, it's Buster Only. Buster. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for the time appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Gee, It's not a good start because they know you're

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<v Speaker 2>not sincere about liking anything for Vermont man.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Jerry was great in the nineties of Buster,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like I've moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great now. I don't appreciate the shots. And you'll

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<v Speaker 2>never get that the best maple syrup in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>which is from.

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont, No doubt you got that going for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got Buster going for them as well. When we

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<v Speaker 1>last spoke, when you came to Dodgers Stadium for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole home opener, it felt like the Dodgers were in

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<v Speaker 1>a very different weight class than everybody else. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think now after thirteen games that.

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<v Speaker 2>They still eventually will be I mean we haven't. They

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<v Speaker 2>haven't played a game this year. When you get a

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<v Speaker 2>fully healthy Bookie and a fully Freddie Freeman, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do think there's going to be a time of that,

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<v Speaker 2>because we know that the way the Dodgers handle injuries

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<v Speaker 2>is through the prism of getting players ready for October,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, we'll see that happen. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the you know, maybe what you're referring to is

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<v Speaker 2>the evolution of other teams in the division. The Nationally

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<v Speaker 2>West might be more competitive, not because the Dodgers aren't

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<v Speaker 2>a great team, but because the Giants are clearly better

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<v Speaker 2>than they have been in the first year of Buster

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<v Speaker 2>Posey running baseball operations. The Diamondbacks are the great offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though the Padres were eliminating that division series

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<v Speaker 2>last year, when I was around them, it's pretty clear

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<v Speaker 2>that group of players walked away from that believing, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, we can beat these guys, and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of great players.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at that division, I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>Padres are the most forgotten team in baseball. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>us believed they could have won the World Series if

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<v Speaker 1>not for the Dodgers winning the NLDS. UH what's the

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<v Speaker 1>sense you get from those group of players in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the Dodgers share your sentiment on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in the in the post uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>post post World Series interviews they did last year, so

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<v Speaker 2>many of them were referencing the fact that they felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the Padres were the toughest team. You know they are,

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<v Speaker 2>so start Layton. You know, you've got Manny Machado. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Fernando Tett Jr. Who moved up another level

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<v Speaker 2>this year with more play discipline than he's had in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. Uh, you've got Jackson Merrill, who's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best young players at a five ninety six slegon

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<v Speaker 2>percentage after the All Star break last year. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The the reason why the Padres are forgotten, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is because their offseason was so you know, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>this ownership going on, you know, fight over who's in control,

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<v Speaker 2>where the payroll is going to be going forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>so A. J. Peler, the general manager, didn't do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot like we're accustomed to, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the winner, he did make some moves. He sign Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Pavetta for the rotation, which they desperately needed. They signed

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<v Speaker 2>Jose Glacier's depth in the infield, it still feels like

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<v Speaker 2>that that's gonna be the biggest challenge for the Padres

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<v Speaker 2>is how much depth will they have. It's generally speaking

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty top heavy lineup, and they need their stars

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<v Speaker 2>to stay on the field and stay healthy. So like

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<v Speaker 2>right now, you know this hamshring injury for Jackson Merrill.

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<v Speaker 2>It it's a big blow to them because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot behind that front that that great front line

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<v Speaker 2>they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Buster only is joining us. He's on the ESPN Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Baseball crew. They'll be in town on Sunday for

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<v Speaker 1>Trews and Cubs. And we just got back the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>just got back from my East Coast road trip. That

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<v Speaker 1>reminded them they are human. And I guess since it's

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<v Speaker 1>only thirteen Gamesbuster, I got to ask you this in

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<v Speaker 1>that context, do you believe the Phillies might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best and maybe the toughest competition for them considering how

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<v Speaker 1>well they've matched up the last two years if they

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<v Speaker 1>see each other, Because now I think it's nine out

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<v Speaker 1>of eleven times Philadelphia has beaten the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, And look they're a really experienced team.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about the Padres. Believe that they'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to debat them. You know, Bryce Harper it is hard

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<v Speaker 2>believes that, Yeah, they can beat the Dodgers. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that Kyle Schwarber thinks that they've got a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>might be the best pitcher on the planet, Zach Wheeler.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Christopher Sanchez, developing young left hander who is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely dominant. We saw him, you know that at Bad

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<v Speaker 2>against Shohe and these great stuff. They can do that now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, we thought that last year. People

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<v Speaker 2>forget that. Most of last year we thought that the

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<v Speaker 2>Phillies were the best team in baseball, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>staded down the stretch. It's interesting because I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>with an executive with another team during the last week

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<v Speaker 2>and he mentioned the similarities between the Phillies and the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this great lineup, but both of those teams

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<v Speaker 2>are older teams that are probably going to be susceptible

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<v Speaker 2>to injuries, and they're probably not going to be as

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<v Speaker 2>good defensively just because of the h factor. But in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of confidence to beat the Dodgers, yeah, it'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Buster, you just mentioned defense and I know on yesterday's

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<v Speaker 1>podcast you talked about it with Tim Kirkchin. Just now

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodger defense may not be right now as good

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<v Speaker 1>as it was last year. How unprecedented is it for

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<v Speaker 1>the best right fielder in the game to try to

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<v Speaker 1>move at age thirty one to the most demanding position

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<v Speaker 1>outside of catcher. And what's the reviews you're hearing early

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<v Speaker 1>on about this year's Mookie Betts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's never really been done never, and

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<v Speaker 2>you you respect the fact that he's working at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that he'll get better. The bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>he's not going to become an elite defensive shortstop at

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<v Speaker 2>age thirty one. You know, I think afere the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>with the team that they have there, you're hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>they make plays and you don't make mistakes. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the you know, the various guys around

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<v Speaker 2>the field, you know, Tommy Edmond is considered to be

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent defender. I thank Freddie Freeman on his uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on when he's healthy. He's a really good

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<v Speaker 2>first baseman. But just talking with folks with other teams,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't see, you know, high end defense there. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, you know, and I know, I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers' front office is filled with really smart people. They

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<v Speaker 2>know all this, and as one executive said to me

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<v Speaker 2>this week, they built this pitching staff that strikes out

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. And so the the in the

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<v Speaker 2>equation and the feeling is probably within the Dodgers front

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<v Speaker 2>office that they can out hit some of their defensive

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes and that their pitchers can strike out a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys and lead runners on base.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully that happens for them. They're walking more than

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<v Speaker 1>they're striking out these days, and their starters aren't going.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, buster early on, their relief pitchers have thrown

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<v Speaker 1>more innings than their starters. This famed starting rotation has

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<v Speaker 1>less innings pitched than their bullpen, which has been stellar

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<v Speaker 1>to start again.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's in keeping with a trend in recent years

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<v Speaker 2>where it does feel like at the end of every

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<v Speaker 2>year and you look at you know, who throws the

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<v Speaker 2>most innings within the Dodgers' rotation, they're always less than

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<v Speaker 2>just about anybody else. You know, if their staff leader

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<v Speaker 2>has been one like one hundred and thirty innings, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty innings, they they're not getting a Zach

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<v Speaker 2>Wheeler with a two hundred inning plow horse. I think they,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, felt that, you know, a guy like Blake

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<v Speaker 2>Snell would get my hundred eighty innings. So far, that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't happened. We'll see if they're healthier as we go

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<v Speaker 2>along this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Buster Olney is our guest. He is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night Baseball crew which will be back at Dodger

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium on Sunday, and Buster, part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have you on the show tonight was

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<v Speaker 1>because so much of the talk has been about breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners record from people outside of the Dodger Clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Miguel Rojas, but the Stars, Otani, Freeman,

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<v Speaker 1>bats and even Dave Roberts have only talked about trying

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<v Speaker 1>to win back to back championships for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since the Yankees that you covered twenty five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about that two thousand season when

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<v Speaker 1>they were going through it. How how can you compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to what we may expect from this Dodger team

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<v Speaker 1>during the regular season, as that is their main goal.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Dodgers, when healthy or the best team that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen. When you're talking about the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have Blake Snell and let's say Glasnow's healthy, Yamamoto,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say Otani later in the year, Clayton Kershaw, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dustin May, backed up by the best bullpen that Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Roberts has ever put together, backed up by that incredible

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<v Speaker 2>lineup they have. It's the best team that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better than the team that I covered with the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight Yankees, which is saying something. You know, that

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<v Speaker 2>team won one hundred and fourteen games in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>They won one hundred and twenty five after they blew

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<v Speaker 2>through the World Series, including a sweep of the Podres.

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<v Speaker 2>What distinguished that team that year was this incredible drive.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, and I know, you know, fans

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<v Speaker 2>go and I think they expect players to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the ballpark every day with the with at

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<v Speaker 2>absolute peak enthusiasm. But that's not how any of us

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<v Speaker 2>do our jobs. That's not human to do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>what just absolutely stood out to me that year in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight was the Yankees had been beaten in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs the year before by the guard then Cleveland Indians,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were so motivated through the ninety eight season.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just on a mission and they played with

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<v Speaker 2>such such high energy, even against really bad teams. Now

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<v Speaker 2>in September they played a couple of bad games against

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay Rays. You know, Joe Torri, who was managing them,

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<v Speaker 2>called a meeting and chewed them out and they got

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<v Speaker 2>back on track. That's the challenge to win that many

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<v Speaker 2>regular season games, you know, all these guys. Once you

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<v Speaker 2>get to postseason, you can get ramped up for a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game, a World Series game, and that's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an issue. But to push yourself through one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty days, one hundred and eighty one days

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<v Speaker 2>in regular season, that is a challenge. And that's why,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, generally speaking, I think it's really tough for

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<v Speaker 2>any team to win that many games in a regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>What about winning a back to back championship. Charlie Steiner,

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<v Speaker 1>who's now part of the Dodger radio broadcast, was with

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<v Speaker 1>those guys and he said they treated the race regular

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<v Speaker 1>season as a warm up to the postseason. What they

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. In fact, when you know that Yankee

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<v Speaker 2>nine and two thousand and I think it actually the

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<v Speaker 2>regular season got harder and harder and harder for a

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<v Speaker 2>veteran group, and they did increasingly point towards the postseason

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<v Speaker 2>to the degree that they actually crawled into the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of those years. And then they got

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<v Speaker 2>into October and all of a sudden, the bright lights

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<v Speaker 2>hit and they were back to full intensity. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the challenge that Dodgers have. Which is one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I heard constantly from players, especially retrospectively looking back

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<v Speaker 2>at those teams, is they felt like it was really

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<v Speaker 2>important to bring in new guys from year to year,

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<v Speaker 2>a new energy, players who were driven to win, So

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<v Speaker 2>a Kirby eight for example, being really important, Blake Snell

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<v Speaker 2>being really important, you know, as you go through the

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<v Speaker 2>long regular season to be driven. And those Yankee teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the year two thousand, which was the last of

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<v Speaker 2>the three consecutive championships, I think they added seven guys

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<v Speaker 2>during the July August waiver period because Brian Cashman knew

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<v Speaker 2>they needed some new blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want some perspective on that Yankee dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>and the team, the Dodgers are chasing in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>the last team to win back to back championships. Buster

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<v Speaker 1>published one of the best books on that Yankee dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty Brings it All Together,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still out there on Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite books. So Buster, love having

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<v Speaker 1>you on. I think you're the best at what you

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<v Speaker 1>do and you always have great perspectives. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for taking the time out and can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>you on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be fun day. But I always love talking with you,

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<v Speaker 2>except when he talks Max about Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll withhold on Sunday when I see you. From here

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<v Speaker 1>on now, for the rest of Lent, I will not

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<v Speaker 1>say anything negative about Vermon.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll take it. I will take it.