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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something to

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<v Speaker 2>kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence, and they would dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over the fence. What are you reporting?

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<v Speaker 2>We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see what it was? It was enough out

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<v Speaker 2>here looking them new to oneowing now and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need anything. I don't want to go outside just fighting. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the buddy out here? What quint on out there?

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<v Speaker 2>It's thought up a bit, just about six foot nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Easy announce there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm walking right y II folks wan welcome my

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<v Speaker 1>guest to the show. It is Levi from Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show, sir, hi, thanks for having me here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been looking forward to this conversation. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What

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<v Speaker 1>in the world got you interested in the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 3>To begin with, Yeah, I have a pretty extensive background

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<v Speaker 3>in UFO research, which kind of led to the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>of paranormal and bigfoot connection. Noticed that some of the

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<v Speaker 3>spots that I was visiting for UFO stuff also had

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty large background or history of sightings of bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>or sasquatch. Moved to Missouri two years ago, started doing

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<v Speaker 3>some research around here, went to a spot that I

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<v Speaker 3>had heard about in a couple other podcasts and interviews.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much immediately started having what I would consider some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of contact with whatever was out there That basically

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<v Speaker 3>turned into Okay, this is more than likely bigfoot. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I got into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right into those experiences. Why don't you take

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<v Speaker 1>us back to where you were, what you were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell us what happened to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I went to a spot called Weldon Springs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about a twenty minute drive from downtown Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, there's quite a few people who have

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<v Speaker 3>branched out to this area to look around and see

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<v Speaker 3>what they could find. Initially, it just started like going

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<v Speaker 3>on day hikes, and then eventually into the early evening,

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<v Speaker 3>I started noticing that I was getting what people considered

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<v Speaker 3>the parallel footsteps on certain parts of the trail, had

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<v Speaker 3>some really weird sounds that kind of just popped up,

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<v Speaker 3>the typical like stick crack that shouldn't be there, or

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<v Speaker 3>animal sounds that don't quite sound right. Then it just

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<v Speaker 3>all escalated. I was out one night doing some research.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a portion of this trail, it's probably one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most visited trails in the entire area, and I

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<v Speaker 3>could hear something paralleling me in the woods this particular

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<v Speaker 3>portion of the trail. The trees they make a tunnel.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not overgrown and they're not cut. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>the foliage there grows into this very weird, very dense

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<v Speaker 3>for four or five feet from the trail in area

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<v Speaker 3>of that forest, I'm walking, stopping it stopping, So I

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<v Speaker 3>started trying to trick it in quotations. That doesn't really work,

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<v Speaker 3>walking faster or slowing down, stopping, abruptly, turning around, tried

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<v Speaker 3>to do everything from my best guess whatever it was

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<v Speaker 3>bipedal and following me on my right hand side. After

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<v Speaker 3>that point, I was like, Okay, there's something out here.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really know the history of the area that much.

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<v Speaker 3>At this this point, I've done a ton of research,

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<v Speaker 3>talk to a ton of people. This particular area has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of really odd history and some weird connections

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<v Speaker 3>to some other spots in the country that are pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Point Pleasant being probably one of the biggest ones, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the site for the first atomic bomb test as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So kept going, kept having stuff happen. Everything really escalated.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom and my son visited from I'm originally from Indiana.

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<v Speaker 3>They took a trip here and we walked the same

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<v Speaker 3>trail and I told them what happened. We had my

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<v Speaker 3>mom's dog with us. The dog was acting super weird,

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<v Speaker 3>coiling around legs with the leaves, very nervous. They both

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<v Speaker 3>started to hear the same exact thing I heard, the

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<v Speaker 3>paralleling and the stopping. At this point, we were no lights,

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to see if we could get a reaction

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<v Speaker 3>or some sort of contact. Sure enough, we just kept

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<v Speaker 3>hearing the same thing walking stop. From there, it went

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<v Speaker 3>from zero to one hundred really quick. I would say

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<v Speaker 3>in less than six months. I was finding pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 3>tree structures through ufology. I use a lot of electronics

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<v Speaker 3>to read vast amount of signal from every possible thing

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<v Speaker 3>I can potentially pull from to try to decipher what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on in the area. I started taking a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy electronics stuff out that I've built personally, just

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<v Speaker 3>getting crazy readings that should not happen there. I eventually

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<v Speaker 3>ended up finding a top of a tree, like a

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<v Speaker 3>pine tree, stripped of basically just branches and only about

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<v Speaker 3>three feet tall. So this pine tree top is shoved

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<v Speaker 3>into the ground. Then placed very deliberately on the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the pine tree was a deer skull. The deer

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<v Speaker 3>skull completely cleaned its white but not bleached white. This

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<v Speaker 3>pine tree, it's basically shoved through the lower mandible and

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<v Speaker 3>pops out what originally I thought was the eye, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually the ear canal. So this thing is just

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<v Speaker 3>placed right directly on this tree that had been shoved

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<v Speaker 3>into the ground. The area. It's open and it's visible

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<v Speaker 3>from the parking lot, but no one goes back there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super high grass. Even when they do controlled burns,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't burn back that way. I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 3>human footprint out there. Pretty good at tracking, pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>at telling what's a hoax or not based off of

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of research and looking at evidence. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>found this skull, turned around, looked at the tree line,

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<v Speaker 3>and said, Okay, the least path of resistance is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be this game trail. And I walked in where

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<v Speaker 3>this game trail was, and the first thing I see

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<v Speaker 3>is what I've now come to learn as a gliff

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<v Speaker 3>potentially not really a tree structure. So it's basically an

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<v Speaker 3>X with a crossbar that runs directly through the center.

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<v Speaker 3>Then curved sticks are traced around the outside of this X,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just sitting right there next to this tree.

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<v Speaker 3>I turn and look to my left, and about fifty

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<v Speaker 3>yards away I see another really large tree that had

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<v Speaker 3>been pushed over from the root ball. The root ball

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<v Speaker 3>is important there because there was a chainsaw cut that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't broken, so I'm assuming at one point this tree

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<v Speaker 3>was deadfall. The Forest Service or DNR or whoever came

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<v Speaker 3>in and chopped it and hopes that it would fall.

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<v Speaker 3>But this thing is pushed out from the root ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and it leads into a bunch of dragged in foliage

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<v Speaker 3>that looks like a dish. What I've come to learn

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<v Speaker 3>is what people consider a nesting area. No real reason

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<v Speaker 3>for people to be back in this spot, it's really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to get to. Even if you're going through the

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<v Speaker 3>game trail. That game trail, you're crawling. Essentially, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>really walking upright at all. So found that went on

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<v Speaker 3>my first expedition. The weekend after that with Mariann from Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>We had really gnarly interaction in the woods. I do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff that most people probably wouldn't ever

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<v Speaker 3>do in the field to try to get a reaction

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<v Speaker 3>from whatever's around. I use a lot of stuff that's

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<v Speaker 3>sound based, frequency stuff that's lower than our audible level,

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<v Speaker 3>or some instrumentation that pushes out one or two frequencies

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<v Speaker 3>continuously while it's working. I call this thing the telephone.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say this. The telephone is not electronic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a ghost box, it's not a Frank's box.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nothing that people have guestimated what it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a physical instrument that I was taught how to use,

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<v Speaker 3>shown how to make correctly. This thing gets almost a

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<v Speaker 3>response NonStop at this point. So yeah, when on the

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<v Speaker 3>expedition had some crazy stuff happen those first two nights,

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<v Speaker 3>that was it. I was okay, well, I'm full in

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<v Speaker 3>now we're doing in this NonStop. That was where it started.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you had these interactions that you were attributing to Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>is that something that drove you on to want to

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<v Speaker 1>know more about these creatures? Did you keep going out

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<v Speaker 1>looking for them and continue to have experiences with them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Yeah, NonStop. I'm out a lot. I would seriously

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<v Speaker 3>argue that I'm out more than most researchers. Probably my

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<v Speaker 3>real job. I basically make outdoor equipment and tennis shoes

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<v Speaker 3>for the rock climbing and the hiking, slash trail running industry.

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<v Speaker 3>I test all of the stuff that I make outside

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<v Speaker 3>and it has to be in the woods. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>test trail shoes in the city. With my work, it

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<v Speaker 3>basically puts me out into the woods at least three

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<v Speaker 3>to six times a week, sometimes every day, being able

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<v Speaker 3>to test stuff, but also being able to go wherever

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<v Speaker 3>I want. I do two folds, so I'm doing research

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<v Speaker 3>while I'm running with trail stuff on, or I'm carrying

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<v Speaker 3>packs to try to figure out weight distribution all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I'm carrying in my packs, or basically it's the

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<v Speaker 3>equipment that I use. It's literally been NonStop. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>on I think since January. Four expeditions now, two privately

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<v Speaker 3>in different states. I go all over Missouri, all over Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been pretty much full blast from this point. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About some of those experiences that you're having on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these expeditions. I know, I talked to mary Anne

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<v Speaker 1>briefly and told her I was going to interview you,

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<v Speaker 1>and she mentioned that you had some experiences on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of expeditions with her, and obviously you've had other experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of the experiences that you've had

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<v Speaker 1>and what that looked like when you were out looking

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<v Speaker 1>for these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the first expedition I went on was in Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never done an expedition like this, didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>have any clue of what it would be or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I showed up pretty late that night. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>pulled in at nine o'clock, didn't really get to meet everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I met mary Anne and said, hey, this is my background.

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<v Speaker 3>I might try some stuff while i'm here. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you the Times. Because I didn't want other people to

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<v Speaker 3>to go, Okay, yeah this was me. No, that wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that? Told her that, She says, yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I pull into the camp, set up everything. About one

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<v Speaker 3>like really loud cats, huge cats fighting. But it's five

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, are you hearing this? And he's yeah, where's

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<v Speaker 3>it at. We're both looking directly where the sound is

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<v Speaker 3>than fifteen feet away, and we can't see anything whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's no pats. We're scanning the entire area. He's

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<v Speaker 3>It literally sounds like two Bobcats on level eleven as

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<v Speaker 3>loud as possible. There's nothing there at all, absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, okay, I don't really know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>abrupt stop. It wasn't like they walked away from each other.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy sound to no sound whatsoever. We're both

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all right, I'm going to climb back into

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<v Speaker 3>parked right next to where all the food is and

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<v Speaker 3>the trailer, which is probably the worst spot I could

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<v Speaker 3>have parked. I start hearing what sounds like the hinges

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<v Speaker 3>of a cooler being very slowly opened. That door creek.

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<v Speaker 3>The aren't the hinge creek right? So I look out again.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no eyeshine, there's nothing around. I'm doing the three

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<v Speaker 3>sixty at this point, so it stops and I'm like, whatever, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I hit the cot, the same thing. The creek starts.

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<v Speaker 3>So I pop out again and I'm like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing around here, There's no one there. No one's

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<v Speaker 3>playing tricks on me with fishing line. Is something tied

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<v Speaker 3>up to the top and they're pulling the fishing line

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<v Speaker 3>to open the cooler. At this point, I have no

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<v Speaker 3>clue what's going on. This is way weirder than most

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff on the first night that I've experienced.

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<v Speaker 3>So go back to the cot and then the next

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<v Speaker 3>thing I know, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 3>The hinges on the door of the trailer. So they

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<v Speaker 3>have a trailer that they bring their entire kitchen set

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<v Speaker 3>up in. So I hear the latch open. I hear

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<v Speaker 3>the latch swing, like the very quiet swing, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I hear this door the same thing. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>something's pulling the door as slow as possible so it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't alert anything. I pop out of the tent and

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing there. The door is just like in the

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<v Speaker 3>breeze and this thing was locked. I physically watched them

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<v Speaker 3>walk the trailer up before everybody else went to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>So that happens. I'm like, I'm fine, I'm getting back

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<v Speaker 3>in the cot. The door shuts. Don't hear anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something going on around here. So I started hearing

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in the woods. So I popped out and I

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<v Speaker 3>had my phone and I started taking video and photographs

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<v Speaker 3>super low resolution. Everything's bumped up to where I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>like a long exposure in the nighttime. I film directly

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<v Speaker 3>across the road for me, on adjacent property that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have access to. I filmed two eyes maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>would say five inches. The part go from a sitting

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<v Speaker 3>position to standing back down to a sitting and then

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<v Speaker 3>it walks off to my right. So it walked off

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<v Speaker 3>to its left. Didn't think anything of it, just thought, oh, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a deer or maybe there's an elk or a

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<v Speaker 3>horse or something in the area. Upon further looking at

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<v Speaker 3>that video a little closer, which I didn't notice it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had sent this video to Mary Ann and she

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple people that reviewed it and saw later on.

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<v Speaker 3>I just found this out like a week and a

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<v Speaker 3>half ago. I had no clue, and this is maybe

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<v Speaker 3>six months ago this video was taken. There's a figure

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<v Speaker 3>off to the back, to the right of the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's eight feet tall. There's no eyeshine, but you can

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<v Speaker 3>see this black figure sit up and then drop down

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<v Speaker 3>when the eye shine walks off to my right. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's the first night. So basically, from let's call it

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<v Speaker 3>one fifty in the morning till about five am, it

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<v Speaker 3>was just non stop. I didn't know the history of

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<v Speaker 3>the area. It's a BFROO expedition, so I had no

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<v Speaker 3>clue where we were going. This is the first night,

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<v Speaker 3>so everybody wakes up. I wake up way late because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to bed at five am, and I go

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<v Speaker 3>and talk to Mary Anne and I'm like, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we have this happen. She'd send me the photo. She's well,

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<v Speaker 3>see if anybody had recorders. The guy who had heard

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<v Speaker 3>the two we'll call him Katz fighting, he also had

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<v Speaker 3>talked to Mary and we were right there and there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing around. We were doing a full three sixty trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out where this sound could be coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>She's talking to everybody. Apparently there had been two footprints

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<v Speaker 3>potentially found at the edge of the camp and then

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<v Speaker 3>maybe some audio recordings that I still haven't heard. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the first night. At that point, everybody knows, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this weird UFO guys here. We might have some stuff happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody always asks me questions because the UFO world and

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<v Speaker 3>the Bigfoot world don't really mix, which is super weird

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I just want to state that it's very weird.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're asking me questions. I learned that we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go back out the second night. I talked to Marianne.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, what are we doing tonight? I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to go with me. We're going to go down

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<v Speaker 3>by the river on this boat dock just let in

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<v Speaker 3>the ramp or whatever. There's going to be a group

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<v Speaker 3>that sits by a fire. They're just going to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Then another group is going to go off and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to track. So there's four guys in this group.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them he's an active duty police officer, super credible,

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<v Speaker 3>really killer tracker. From what I understand, I had never

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<v Speaker 3>met anybody at the expedition before this point, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>learning all this stuff as I'm right there. So him

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<v Speaker 3>and the other three they go off Maryann and I

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<v Speaker 3>are sitting on the dock. I wear shooting muffs that

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<v Speaker 3>are tweaked a little bit electronically in the woods at

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<v Speaker 3>all times, just so I can kill the ambient noise,

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<v Speaker 3>but hear what's going on around. It's really good in

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<v Speaker 3>our area because there's a lot of traffic from the

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<v Speaker 3>highways and the roads are super loud, so it kills

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<v Speaker 3>all that. We're wearing the headphones. And she's like, why

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<v Speaker 3>don't you go do the telephone thing that you did

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<v Speaker 3>the night before. I'm like, okay, yeah, that works. I

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<v Speaker 3>walk away from the group. We check our watches to

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<v Speaker 3>see what time it is. Take note. So I walk off.

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<v Speaker 3>I make this in quotations telephone call. I see almost

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<v Speaker 3>immediately two sets of eyes maybe one hundred yards of

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<v Speaker 3>way from me that kind of do the peak out

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<v Speaker 3>of the tree and then they come back, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>separated by a good three or four feet. It almost

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<v Speaker 3>looked like there was something standing up and then crouch

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<v Speaker 3>down next to the tree in front of it with

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<v Speaker 3>something else, maybe a juvenile. I still have no clue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not yellow and it's not green, but it's that

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<v Speaker 3>in between weird eerodestin green yellow. I'm watching them blink

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<v Speaker 3>and the eyes are probably six inches apart, so very

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<v Speaker 3>white spacing, way bigger than most things. So do the

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<v Speaker 3>telephone call. This thing takes a lot from me physically.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really hard to do and pulls energy in a

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<v Speaker 3>weird way. I start hearing movement through the woods and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I heard a very faint, low growl off

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<v Speaker 3>to my right. I'm like, hey, Marianne, can you come

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<v Speaker 3>help me. I can't do the headphones plus the telephone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Her and hour wonderful cook for the expedition. They're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll go with you. So I hand Marianne the headphone.

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<v Speaker 3>She puts the headphones on. I walk away do this

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<v Speaker 3>other telephone call, and I hear whoa from her and

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<v Speaker 3>immediately turn around. She pulls off the headphones and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>right after that stopped, I heard a voice, a very

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<v Speaker 3>low voice, clear as day audible, say boom, not like bom,

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<v Speaker 3>but a long, stretched out boom. And she said it

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<v Speaker 3>sounded like a human's voice, but with super deep I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is good, this is what we're looking for. As

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<v Speaker 3>I turn around, the group that's tracking is walking back

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<v Speaker 3>down the road towards us. They had come back from

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<v Speaker 3>their portion of that evening. We start hearing what sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like a freight train barreling through the woods at us

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<v Speaker 3>as fast as possible and crashing. So it's the police officer,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the guy that heard the weird cat argument with

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<v Speaker 3>me the night before, and then it's two other gentlemen

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<v Speaker 3>who have had multiple visual sightings, and our pretty serious

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<v Speaker 3>long term researchers. So we're all finally standing together. We're

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<v Speaker 3>watching the woodline because this thing is coming at us

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<v Speaker 3>through the brush and it stops I would say five

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<v Speaker 3>feet from the edge of the tree line. It's impossible

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<v Speaker 3>for me to explain how loud the sound was of

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<v Speaker 3>it moving through the woods, so we start tearing off

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<v Speaker 3>to our left that there's two other things running away

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<v Speaker 3>from it or moving through the woods. Those turned out

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<v Speaker 3>to be Armadillo's but whatever was making the extremely loud

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<v Speaker 3>sound is just past the tree line and no one

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<v Speaker 3>can see it. We hit with white light, red light,

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<v Speaker 3>green light. I think there was a flear and a

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<v Speaker 3>thermal that was unable to pick up anything. At this point,

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<v Speaker 3>there's six of us standing there hearing this thing move

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth, through the brush and it sounds absolutely huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I can't explain how big and how

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<v Speaker 3>loud the sound was. It got to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't know what to do and we just all

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<v Speaker 3>started to back off. It was very nerve wracking. I

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<v Speaker 3>will say that it's probably one of the only times

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in the wilderness where if this is a bear,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna come out and get us. The way that

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<v Speaker 3>it was moving through the woods, it sounded like it

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<v Speaker 3>was bipedal. I didn't know it at the time, but

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<v Speaker 3>when the tracking group was coming down the road, they

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<v Speaker 3>had two growls maybe two hundred yards away from where

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<v Speaker 3>I was making this phone call that they heard clear

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<v Speaker 3>as day. This is all within forty minutes. As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as the activity started, it was like, damn all this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff's going on. I didn't know it when we drove in,

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<v Speaker 3>but apparently there were two or three branches that were

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<v Speaker 3>at the eight foot mark that had the twist, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're physically being cranked by something with a thumb and

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<v Speaker 3>were driving out of that location, pointed it out and

416
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:07.880
<v Speaker 3>you could see it clear as day. Something took the

417
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 3>branches and twisted those branches to where the fibers in

418
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the wood. It looked like a spiral. It was one

419
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 3>of the craziest things I've seen as far as physical

420
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 3>evidence or trace goes. At this point, I've seen a

421
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.839
<v Speaker 3>ton of physical evidence and trace evidence from the UFO

422
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 3>realm and the Cryptid realm in general. So we pull

423
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.400
<v Speaker 3>out of that area just dumbfounded, like no clue what's

424
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 3>in the woods. No one's brave enough to walk in.

425
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I will say that maybe let's go check this other spot.

426
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And this is where my main research area intertwined with

427
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 3>all of the Bigfoot stuff on this expedition. Marian takes

428
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.440
<v Speaker 3>us to another location. It's another lead in. I don't

429
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.559
<v Speaker 3>know if it's a river, it's a creek, but there's

430
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.160
<v Speaker 3>basically an oval shaped parking lot and these two boat

431
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.440
<v Speaker 3>let ends. We go. I do the telephone call thing again.

432
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 3>We peer a little bit of the samurai chatter in quotations.

433
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's exactly what it was, but

434
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>it definitely sounded like low end garbled speech, but it

435
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 3>was way way off. It was at the point where

436
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 3>my headphones couldn't really pick it. Up enough to where

437
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I was straining to hear it, if that makes sense.

438
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 3>It's audible, but it's not clear enough for me to

439
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 3>decipher what it actually was. We have really no activity there,

440
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 3>We don't really hear anything. Then someone notices behind us,

441
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 3>is this light that's in the middle of the field.

442
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Just to paint the picture of this field is probably

443
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 3>three hundred yards long by one hundred and fifty wide.

444
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 3>There's a road that comes down on the left hand

445
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 3>side of the field that we drove in to get

446
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 3>into the lead in area. If you drive out and

447
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 3>back up that road, you take a right hand turn

448
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 3>at the top of the hill that heads towards our camp.

449
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.359
<v Speaker 3>Someone notices this light, and this light is i would say,

450
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty feet off the ground, and it's

451
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 3>moving in a way that looks like maybe a stationary

452
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 3>light with trees in front of it that are causing

453
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.960
<v Speaker 3>the optical illusion of it moving around. I'm looking at it.

454
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm going that light is not on a hill. That

455
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 3>light is in the middle of this field, above the

456
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.960
<v Speaker 3>tree line. It's not a light on a pull. So

457
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody else starts looking at it. I'm like, we should

458
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 3>point a laser at this thing. They're like, why should

459
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.039
<v Speaker 3>we point a laser. I'm like, there's interaction that happens

460
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 3>potentially with lasers and UAPs or unidentified craft. This is

461
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:43.359
<v Speaker 3>used in everything from C five contact to the government

462
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 3>in quotations blasting a three mile long laser up into

463
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 3>the sky to see if they can have interaction for testing.

464
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 3>So we start hitting this light with a flashlight at first,

465
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's reacting. So it's going from bright and I

466
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 3>would say maybe the size of a softball to dark

467
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and shrinking down till the size of a ping pong ball,

468
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 3>and then going back out again. It's doing this weird

469
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 3>in and out movement. It's getting brighter and darker. It's

470
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 3>also moving up and down, but left to right in

471
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>non ninety degree angle, so it's bouncing like you hear

472
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>the ORB bouncing through the woods. I wouldn't consider this

473
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>an ORB. Orbs are intelligent to an extent, and they

474
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>react to certain things. In my professional opinion, this is

475
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 3>not an ORB. So we're watching this light and it's

476
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>moving around, and it's getting brighter and it's getting darker,

477
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's growing in size and it's shrinking back down

478
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>and there's seventeen people watching this thing for two hours.

479
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>At this point. We had hit it with a spotlight

480
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 3>on a truck. We had hit it with a laser.

481
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I had a piece of electronic equipment that I used

482
00:27:54.839 --> 00:28:00.240
<v Speaker 3>that's tweaked to read a certain signal that's pertin it

483
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to spaceship traveler communication. It's hard to explain, but you

484
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 3>can research it and figure it out pretty easily. It's

485
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 3>in the low gigahertz realm. That's where the people that know,

486
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 3>they'll know the piece of electronic equipment is behaving extremely erratically,

487
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to the point where I tossed it on the ground

488
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>to just completely try to isolate it from myself, and

489
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 3>it's still doing the same thing. It basically scans at

490
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 3>a really wide array of signals, and when it stops,

491
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 3>that's when there's something around that's bumping out that particular gigahertz.

492
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 3>So Marian says, let's go try to find this light.

493
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>She takes the police officer. His name's Robbie he Her

494
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>and I can't remember who all went. They go look

495
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>for this light. So everybody's standing there. They drive off,

496
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 3>they go. We can see him go up the hill.

497
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>We can see him driving around until they start to

498
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 3>disappear behind the foliage. We're just standing there watching this

499
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>weird light in the middle of a field behave extremely erratically,

500
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 3>but also interact with what we're blasting at it. So

501
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 3>we had taken a green laser. We pointed a laser

502
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 3>at it. It reacted to that. I'm like, we should

503
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>go out there and see what this thing is. The

504
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 3>only way you're going to know is if you can

505
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 3>get as close to it as possible. We don't have

506
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a helicopter or one hundred and twenty foot ladder, so

507
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the best thing to do is walk towards it in

508
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the field. Everybody's no, don't do that. I'm like, we'll

509
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 3>be fine. If it was going to get us, who

510
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>would already have got us. There's nothing to be scared

511
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>of at this point. There's another gentleman from the same

512
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>area I live in. His name's Lou and this is

513
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite things that anybody has ever said

514
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>to me in any type of research. Hey, curious mind's

515
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 3>got to know what this thing is. We need to

516
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 3>walk towards it. The minute he said that, I was like,

517
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that's it. We're going. So him and I walked straight

518
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 3>towards this thing through the field. The brush is like

519
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 3>head height at this point, and we get within I

520
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 3>would say, twenty yards of this thing, and we're blocked

521
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>by a property fence. We didn't cross because it wasn't

522
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 3>on public lanfe and I'm not trying to potentially get

523
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 3>shot by a hunter who maybe has a game camera

524
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 3>or anything out here.

525
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We're

526
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

527
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 3>So we look up. We see this light. It's right

528
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 3>above the tree line that's not very far in front

529
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 3>of us. Same thing. We're hitting with a flashlight and

530
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 3>a laser, and it's reacting and it's just sitting there,

531
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>but it's moving around and it's changing brightness and darkness.

532
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 3>It got to the point where I was like, we

533
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 3>can't really do anything else. We know it's there, there's

534
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>no real way to explain it, so let's walk back.

535
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 3>We walk back towards everybody. Five minutes later, here comes

536
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 3>Marianne and the group. Robbie the police officers on the phone.

537
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 3>I could hear him. I have no clue how to

538
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 3>explain what's going on. We're seeing this light. I don't

539
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>know exactly who he's talking to. We're seeing this light

540
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's no source. So they drove all the way

541
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 3>up on the ridge line. They drove as close to

542
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>the light as they could. There was a house that

543
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 3>they drove up to, there's no poll with the light

544
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 3>on it. Then there's another building that has a radio tower,

545
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 3>and they drove directly where they took the road into

546
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 3>the radio tower and back out, and then the two buildings.

547
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.480
<v Speaker 3>No source of the light in either of those locations.

548
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 3>At this point, it's two and a half hours of

549
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>us just staring at those things. So everybody goes it's okay,

550
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 3>it's there. We don't know what it is. Let's go back.

551
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>The look on Robbie's face was priceless to me because

552
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 3>I can tell that he's completely stumped. A guy like that,

553
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 3>he's pretty credible, he knows a lot. Isn't gonna really bullshit.

554
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>He's a police officer, He's not going to make it up.

555
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 3>For some reason, I have no clue what's going on.

556
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen anything like this whatsoever. I was like, yeah,

557
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>it's mildly crazy for me. I see stuff like this

558
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>all the time. But it was very odd that it

559
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>was in the same area of where we were doing research,

560
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 3>and that was the point where I was like, Okay,

561
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 3>this whole idea of these things being separated is pretty

562
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 3>ridiculous at this point. So we basically went back to

563
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 3>the camp and as soon as we get to the camp,

564
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 3>I get smoked with absolute terror, the worst fear that

565
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I've ever had in my entire life. And it's really

566
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>hard to scare me. I got hit by a car.

567
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I was a bicycle messenger for ten years, got smoked

568
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 3>by a car, broke my leg, was in the hospital,

569
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>totally fine, not scared. Was just like whatever, it's part

570
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>of it. And never have I ever been as scared

571
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 3>as I was at this moment. I'm basically laying in

572
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.839
<v Speaker 3>my cot just silently freaking out because it feels like

573
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 3>there's something just beyond the edge of darkness that's going

574
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 3>to reach out and grab me, steal me, and take

575
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 3>me away, and no one's ever gonna see me again.

576
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I've never had that happen in my entire life. Through

577
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 3>you research, I've been to spots where the normal mind

578
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>is this is the devil. We're about to get possessed.

579
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I need to run away that level of just sheer terror,

580
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 3>and it lasts the entire night. So I go from

581
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 3>cool singing this light to getting back to the camp

582
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 3>where we're not supposed to have a ton of activity.

583
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>I think I went to bed at seven am the

584
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 3>next morning and woke up at eleven. It was so

585
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 3>bad that I took a super bright like three thousand

586
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 3>lumin white white and just popped it on my truck

587
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>bed and left it on the entire night, facing away

588
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 3>from the rest of the campground, because I felt like

589
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 3>from where that light was pointed is wherever this whatever

590
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 3>unseen scary entity is gonna come from. Absolutely terrified at

591
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 3>that point. The first expedition, it's oh, if this is

592
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 3>how it is, this is wild. This is way crazier

593
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>than what I thought it would be. So yeah, that

594
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 3>was the first expedition I went on. Marianne's liked, we

595
00:33:57.880 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 3>never had stuff like this happen.

596
00:33:59.720 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>We have.

597
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I have seen lights, They've had stuff that they can't

598
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 3>really explain, but this is a different level. I was like,

599
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>some of this stuff is pretty normal for me at

600
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 3>this point. That telephone is a key piece of equipment

601
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 3>that I use, but it carries with it a lot

602
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 3>of responsibility. That's part of the reason I'm like super

603
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 3>vague on it. I won't tell people what it is

604
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 3>unless I meet you in person. I can show you

605
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 3>using it is not a everyday thing that anyone and

606
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 3>their brother or sister can use. It blasts out something

607
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 3>that can bring the really not great to you. If

608
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 3>you don't know how to use it properly. I don't

609
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>know if you have questions. That was the first expedition

610
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I went on.

611
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to circle back to the quote unquote telephone

612
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about, but you answered that already. I

613
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>totally understand you. Not wanted to get deep in the

614
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>weeds on that. Hopefully I'll get to meet you at

615
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>some point in time and we can go a little

616
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>further into that. But I did want to go back

617
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to some of the electronics that you do use that

618
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe you can talk. You talked about in the very

619
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>beginning some of the crazy readings that you've had while

620
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 1>you're out there. Can you talk a little bit about

621
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>what those readings were and what they meant to you

622
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>in relation to the possibility of having some bigfoot activity.

623
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all the electronics stuff. I want to say

624
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>this at the beginning. It's readily available to everyone in

625
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 3>the world, essentially, that is in the bigfoot world or

626
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 3>paranormal research world. I'm actually in the middle of writing

627
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 3>a field guide to practical Bigfoot research that has all

628
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>of these electronics that I use listed, plus where you

629
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>can get them from, and the dumbest, easiest, straightforward how

630
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 3>to use it, how to interpret the readings, and how

631
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>to save and share the data. I noticed that in

632
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the bigfoot world there's a lot of electronics that are used,

633
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>and they're used incorrectly because people are really untrained in

634
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 3>using the stuff that they've purchased. If someone says by

635
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 3>a parabolic microphone, so they go and they spend eighty

636
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 3>to two thousand dollars on a parabolic microphone, but they're

637
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 3>getting readings or sounds that sound like footsteps, and they're

638
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 3>not realizing that if you're relaxed enough and squeezing at

639
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 3>handle enough, your heart rate not every beat, but intermittently

640
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 3>beat through your hand into that parabolic microphone. It's the

641
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 3>same reason that boom mic operators in the movies and

642
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 3>TV shows hold the boom mic above their heads. I

643
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 3>have to say that I wanted to put that out there.

644
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm basically making this short book that tells people how

645
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 3>to use stuff effectively. With that being said, the first

646
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 3>thing that's really important to me is a spectrum antilizer.

647
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 3>A spectrum mantilizer basically it can read a bunch of

648
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 3>different stuff dependent on how it's tuned. I use mine

649
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 3>to read high and low frequencies. I use two intennas

650
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 3>that pick up their like one hundred mile intennas. They're

651
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 3>absolutely massive in the field. I shrink down the I

652
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>think it's a twenty mile antenna. But the spectrum antilizer

653
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 3>is sensitive enough to read basically vibration from the earth.

654
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 3>So if there's a frequency that resonates from the earth

655
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 3>because of tectonic plates or machinery or drilling or whatever,

656
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 3>this will pick it up on a minute scale and

657
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 3>you can see it. The whole reason I started using

658
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 3>the spectrum antilizer, though, was I was trying to figure

659
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 3>out a way to read or potentially get an idea

660
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>if we were getting kit by infrasound. So that second night,

661
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 3>when I felt this absolute terror, my brain went to, Okay,

662
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 3>how do I measure this? How do I know exactly

663
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 3>what's going on to an extent. The exactly there is

664
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 3>not exact, but it's as close as I can get.

665
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 3>How am I physically able to look at a screen

666
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 3>and go, Okay, I'm scared because I'm getting bombarded with

667
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 3>this frequency right now. It's tweaked a little bit, but

668
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 3>it basically reads from the baseline of sub gigahertz sound

669
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>or frequency all the way up to Technically, if I

670
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 3>really needed to, I could pick up on satellite gigahertz

671
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 3>transfers if I wanted to. It's directional too, so dependent

672
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 3>on the antennas. If you point it to the left

673
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 3>and there's something going on to the left, and you

674
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 3>turn right and there's no frequency, there's no sound, you're

675
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>not seeing a spike, it's a pretty good indicator that

676
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:32.559
<v Speaker 3>whatever is affecting you in that area is to the left.

677
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 3>I was just in the LBL and we used it.

678
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Some of the stuff that we had happened versus what

679
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the data showed on the spectrum antalyzer was pretty convincing

680
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 3>at this point that it's able to pick up on

681
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 3>some things that we're not able to see here, taste,

682
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>or smell. So that's the first one. The second one

683
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 3>is a highly tuned Ham radio just to try to

684
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 3>pick up any other weird stuff that's potentially broadcasting around

685
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>us that could be affecting us. My research area. We

686
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 3>get a lot of weird readings because there's uranium. The

687
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>spot was for uranium manufacturing, so there's leftover stuff that

688
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 3>comes from that. But this radio. I basically got this

689
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 3>radio and tweaked this radio to where the same thing.

690
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's semi directional. It only picks up on certain frequencies.

691
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that's really cool though, we started

692
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 3>to notice that when you're having activities, so you're starting

693
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 3>to hear maybe the parallel in the woods, or you're

694
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 3>starting to hear jaw plaques or tree branches breaking, anything

695
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 3>that's potentially not of the natural world. In quotations, this

696
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>radio starts to buzz very oddly. I took the concept

697
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 3>from a super famous ufologist that had built a similar

698
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 3>instrument and had used it in that realm with pretty

699
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 3>substantial success. It's been a lot of trial and error,

700
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 3>but it does pick up on stuff. When stuff starts

701
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to get weird, is what we'll call it. So that's

702
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the second thing. The third thing, the shooting muffs. I

703
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 3>tweak mine to here lower than what they're originally designed for.

704
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 3>You hear pretty far. I'm assuming with your background you've

705
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 3>probably had shooting muffs on before. These things in the woods.

706
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 3>You put them on and you walk down the trail

707
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and you start to notice that if you're hearing bugs

708
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 3>that are stopping chirping on your right hand side because

709
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>there's some sort of predator or a larger entity in

710
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>that area. It's also a pretty good indicator Okay, there's

711
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>probably something off to the right. Yeah. So those are

712
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 3>like the three main things I use. I have two

713
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 3>other things that I've developed that I'm currently just testing

714
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 3>at this point. So in my research area, I have

715
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 3>a series of seismic sensors. I just want to say,

716
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 3>this is not my idea. It's been used forever the military.

717
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Apple cations for it have been around for a long time.

718
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 3>So my stuff basically, let's just say a set of

719
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 3>ten sensors that are stretched out. They go back to

720
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 3>a main control box. That control box has a cell

721
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 3>signal that then sends me info when those sensors are

722
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 3>triggered via the calibrated weight and or sized or step

723
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 3>pattern of basically the brain inside these seismic sensors are

724
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 3>calibrated only to pick up weight wise between five hundred

725
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 3>pounds and fifteen hundred pounds. They're also only calibrated to

726
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>pick up anything that's walking on two feet. Immediately, the

727
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 3>weight kill the human aspect of it, but then the

728
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 3>third portion is the distance between each footstep. So if

729
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, there's a five hundred pounds hiker that's

730
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:00.400
<v Speaker 3>taking a step, the sensor will trip, but if that

731
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>step is under six feet to the next step, it

732
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 3>won't read the signal again. So these sensors basically just

733
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>pick up what we would consider bigfoot walking through the

734
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>woods at fifth point, and since it's bounced out back

735
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to me directly via my computer or my phone, I

736
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 3>can see pretty regularly when there's something potentially moving through

737
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 3>the area. Each one of those sensors it goes. The

738
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 3>radius is maybe twenty yards for each of them. That's

739
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>going to get bumped up more. It's just more sensors.

740
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 3>It's really expensive to do this, so that's the third thing.

741
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 3>I can lay in bed at night, I'll look at

742
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 3>my phone and get a notification ping, there's a step, Oh,

743
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 3>there's another step, or I can go back and pull

744
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>the card and look at all the data for the

745
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 3>month and kind of figure out, Okay, here's the potential pattern.

746
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 3>So that's like the first like really high tech thing.

747
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 3>The last thing is it's a game camera, but not

748
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>a game camera like you would think a game camera

749
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>would be. I gotta be careful because I don't want

750
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>people to take the idea, so I'll give you the

751
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 3>shorthand explanation of it. It's a buried camera. There's sensors

752
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 3>that are separated from the actual optic, and the camera

753
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 3>optic is separated from all the electronics by a pretty

754
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 3>substantial amount of feet. What's very cool is you have

755
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 3>this control box that has all your brains and then

756
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 3>two cables that run however far to an optic and

757
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 3>a sensor, and if that sensor's tripped, it doesn't alert

758
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>via the typical ar ring of hey, here's where the

759
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 3>camera is to whatever's around. I kept hearing bigfoot can

760
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 3>cir sasquatch can seir, they smell the batteries, whatever, So

761
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 3>I started trying to figure out a way to isolate

762
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 3>everything that could possibly give them heads up that there's

763
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>a camera in the area. I went back and did

764
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of research on other things that could potentially

765
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 3>let any type of living animal or anything from not

766
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 3>our plane or world, what would potentially trigger that. And

767
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I found a lot of times, like game cameras in

768
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 3>areas with a large bear population, the bear smelled the

769
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>alkaline in the batteries. I said, Okay, cool, that's a trigger.

770
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:29.320
<v Speaker 3>I'll separate that, we'll put it somewhere where they can't

771
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 3>smell it. So, yeah, it's a little weird and it's

772
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 3>not really something that I've noticed a lot in bigfoot research.

773
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>But my goal is I'm going to use as much

774
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 3>electronic stuff as I can that's really hard to debunk,

775
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 3>really hard to hoax, and just put it out there

776
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 3>when it's all set and ready for people to be like, Okay, yeah,

777
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll buy one or I'll build one. That's the whole goal.

778
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 3>The data is promising from everything. The lowest tech portion

779
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 3>is the headphones thing. I've told a bunch of people

780
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 3>at this point about these headphones and they're like, man,

781
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I didn't think of this before.

782
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably not the first person to do it. I

783
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.599
<v Speaker 3>will say that on almost everything, we got to do

784
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>something different than what we've been doing for the past

785
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 3>sixty two one hundred years as far as it comes

786
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>to trying to figure out what, where, when, or who

787
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot is or are or were.

788
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquat chat to see we're right back.

789
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 1>After these messages.

790
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I noticed very quickly that everybody does the same thing

791
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 3>over and over expecting the same results across the world.

792
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if people realize this, but somebody once

793
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 3>said that doing the same thing over and over again

794
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 3>and expecting a different outcome is essentially crazy. I didn't

795
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 3>want to go on the crazy part, and I just

796
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 3>tried to think logically and scientifically how I could prove

797
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 3>or help prove that there is some sort of phenomenon

798
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 3>we're able to read or pick up a signal from

799
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 3>or measure via sensors.

800
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

801
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that answered the question. Sorry, Yeah,

802
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 3>it was fantastic.

803
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you going into the tech because I think

804
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that is something that not a lot of people employ.

805
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I certainly go very minimalistically into the woods on a

806
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>daily basis here on our forty acres in North Carolina,

807
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and when I go out to areas like we're going

808
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to be out in Missouri. I'm going to speak at the.

809
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 3>The Those Dark Mountain Bigfoot Conference, right.

810
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference. I'll be out there

811
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at the camp out as well. I go very minimalistic

812
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>for me. The most high tech thing I take into

813
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the woods is probably the audio recorders that I usually

814
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 1>have with me everywhere I go, but the rest of

815
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 1>it is very low tech. I'm glad that there are

816
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>people like you out there doing the more high tech

817
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff because I think that is really fascinating. I think

818
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it's awesome that you're using something that, very much like

819
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you said, is very difficult to debunk. Because we've all

820
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>seen the paranormal shows. We've all seen some of the

821
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 1>UFO shows. I've seen some of the tech that these

822
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>folks are using a lot of times. In my opinion,

823
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the data that they're getting or the results that they're

824
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>getting are very subjective. It is a red flag for

825
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 1>me when it comes to this, because if it's ambiguous

826
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.760
<v Speaker 1>data that you're getting, you're only as good as the

827
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>data that you're putting into whatever you're trying to get in.

828
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like the garbage in garbage out right. It's very

829
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>important to have the kind of technology that you're talking

830
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>about that is very difficult to debunk. Before we go

831
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 1>back into the tech thing. Now that we've covered that,

832
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit about I know you've been

833
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 1>on another expedition. Was that the end of your experiences

834
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>with these things?

835
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>No, Like I said, I think I've been on four

836
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 3>or five at this point, two that were separate alone.

837
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 3>The second one was in I think Oklahoma. Sorry, I'm

838
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 3>geographically stupid. I have to think about where I've been

839
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 3>and where we went and all this stuff. I can't

840
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>picture it. And I can tell you how far I drove,

841
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 3>but I can't tell you what state or which direction.

842
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 3>It's like the world's worst curse for me. I went

843
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 3>on another one. It was on Native land. This was

844
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a BFRO expedition. Everything I tried, I got no response whatsoever. So,

845
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 3>like the telephone thing, super weird not having a response

846
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 3>with that. At this point, when I use that thing,

847
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 3>it's over sixty percent that we get a substantial, verifiable

848
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 3>and usually recorded response. If I don't get a response.

849
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And this is a guest, and this is based off

850
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 3>of some theories that I have that are really hard

851
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>to explain, the long drawn out things. The easiest way

852
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to explain it is a spiritually something in the land

853
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>is blocking me from using that to try to communicate

854
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>with whatever's out there. So that's one realm. The other

855
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 3>realm is there's something not of this world or I

856
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 3>don't like the term paranormal. It's hard for me to

857
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 3>use that. I consider myself a paraufologist, but not because

858
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 3>of the paranormal realm. There's something entoity that's blocking me

859
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 3>from blasting out this whatever it is from the telephone.

860
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 3>When on that expedition, didn't really have anything crazy that

861
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 3>happened there for me, as far as the stuff that

862
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I put out, I did notice, and I didn't know

863
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 3>this at the time, the area that we were in

864
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 3>is an extremely crazy historical hot spot. The way it

865
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 3>was told to me that if you drop a pin

866
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>where we were, and you go fifty miles within that radius,

867
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 3>you'll talk to a ton of people and they all

868
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.800
<v Speaker 3>have had experiences in this area. Maybe I would say

869
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>a thousand feet away from where I was camping, was

870
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 3>a lady that has lived in this same little a

871
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 3>frame cabin for sixty years or something. She has regular

872
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 3>contact and interactions with Bigfoot almost on a weekly basis.

873
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Before I arrived, someone had seen one, maybe through thermal

874
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 3>or flear right by her area looking at our camp.

875
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know this at the time. This was all

876
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 3>told to me at the end of the expedition, and

877
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, okay, crazy, this makes sense. But there

878
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 3>was one thing that did stand out a lot to me.

879
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 3>We were out in the woods this ridge line that

880
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 3>drops pretty severely, really steep ridgeline into this shallow It's

881
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 3>not a river, it's just like a creek that runs

882
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 3>through that's not really wet all the time. It's a

883
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 3>creek bed. And I found out later on that this

884
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 3>creek bed is basically a highway for whatever is in

885
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 3>the area to travel in and out. So right at

886
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the hill, if you drive over this

887
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.679
<v Speaker 3>creek and you look to your left, there's this house.

888
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 3>It literally looked like whoever lived there they left in

889
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 3>a hurry. They left all their stuff. There were toys

890
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.079
<v Speaker 3>in the yard. The inside of the house is completely

891
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 3>trashed now now because of nature, but you can tell

892
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 3>these people left in a hurry. Base get that old hard.

893
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 3>So we were out in this area, I looked ridiculous

894
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 3>compared to both people on these expeditions and probably to

895
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 3>the general public. I have a full kit that I

896
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 3>wear that has a ton of intennas popping up. I

897
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 3>know for a fact when people see me on the

898
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>trails or walking around anywhere with this stuff on, they're

899
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 3>either like, that guy is in the military or he's

900
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.599
<v Speaker 3>an idiot that's like a ham radio dude. But it's

901
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 3>basically just a weird hiker with a ton of intennas

902
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and a full chest rig and everything. So I'm walking

903
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 3>around this house and I'm starting to get the TBGB

904
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 3>creepy feeling, which for me is not really that substantial.

905
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 3>But I'm starting to notice that spectrum analyzer is really

906
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 3>peaking very low on that spectrum. So ride around one

907
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 3>point six to one point nine gigahertz. This thing measures

908
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>basically from zero zero zero to nine nine nine point

909
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 3>nine nine nine as far as it needs to go,

910
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 3>and it measures low and high or a combination of

911
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 3>the two. So I'm getting this feeling and I'm watching

912
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>this thing spike. The next thing I know, I'm just

913
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 3>in this world of terror again, like absolutely scared. I

914
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 3>turned around and I'm talking to Marianne, and I'm like, hey,

915
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I feel really bad right now. She's what's going on.

916
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's something in the area that's peaking

917
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 3>the analyzer. It's paggued at this one point area, which

918
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 3>is substantial. Then everybody starts coming around. We're starting to

919
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 3>hear a little bit of stuff in the woods, but

920
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>no one else is really picking up on anything. At

921
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 3>one point, I had turned and was just like burning

922
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the tree line eye wise, like trying to see if

923
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 3>I could spot something, and I got the parodolia round

924
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 3>circle blob squatch. It was two leaves and then a

925
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 3>tree behind it that had what looked like a mouth

926
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 3>that was opened. I freaked out and with like, holy crap,

927
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 3>there was a bigfoot right there. It wasn't. It was

928
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 3>a tree in the leaves, but I'm still getting this

929
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 3>terrible feeling. Maybe that's the explanation, that's what's scaring me.

930
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the spectrum analyzer and it's just pegged

931
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 3>as high as it could read for people listening, that

932
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 3>probably doesn't explain a lot, and it's really hard to

933
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>explain what a spectrum analyizer does if you're not really

934
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 3>tech savvy. But for a signal to be broadcasted that

935
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 3>high on something that's directional, handheld, and not directly grounded

936
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 3>or connected to the Earth, it should not happen. That

937
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 3>frequency happens a lot at a really famous spot that

938
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>has a lot of really odd stuff, Skinwalker Ranch, they

939
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 3>see that same signal pretty frequently. People say it comes

940
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 3>from satellites or radio communication. From what I'm telling it's

941
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 3>not always that it does happen, but it should not

942
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 3>happen in this area. We were so far in the sticks,

943
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 3>no one had say I was experiencing battery drain pretty

944
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:06.239
<v Speaker 3>regularly between the headphones, the spectrum analyzer, and some other

945
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 3>stuff that I was using. I did have something that

946
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 3>happened on the way down, though It's happened three times

947
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 3>now and it's really confusing to me. I was like

948
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes away from the area. Mary Anne sent me

949
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 3>the location of where everyone was camping. So I get

950
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the location, I plug it into my twenty twenty three

951
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.519
<v Speaker 3>four truck. Next thing I know, the tachometer, that the

952
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 3>heads up display, gas gauge, everything, all the electronics in

953
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 3>the center contole. Everything goes completely dark and I'm driving

954
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 3>down the highway at this point, I knew I was

955
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna be okay, because it's happened before. I drive two

956
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 3>or three miles and it pops back on. I'm like, okay,

957
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 3>we'll just note that. I take a note of that.

958
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 3>Then I start looking at the location that I'm going to.

959
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 3>It takes me like twenty miles away on the other

960
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 3>side the lake that we were on. And I called

961
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 3>her and I'm like, hey, where are you guys. I'm

962
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 3>at a fence that says no entry at the location

963
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 3>you sent me. She's like, you're way far away from us.

964
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll send the location again. So she sends the same

965
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 3>exact location to me. I pop it in the second time,

966
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 3>and it takes me directly a straight line through the

967
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 3>lake back to the other side of the campground. When

968
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 3>I got there, I told her that happened. She's I

969
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 3>gave the same location to a ton of people. There

970
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 3>were like fifty people at this thing. No one else

971
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 3>had an issue. Just chalk it up to me having

972
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 3>weird shit happen all the time. That was pretty much

973
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 3>hit for that expedition. I was in the lbl Over

974
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 3>labor day totally terrified that I was potentially going to

975
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 3>have the dog man experience. That's the only thing that

976
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 3>scares me in the world of creepy. I've pulled into

977
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the LBLS. I don't feel anything. I totally feel fine.

978
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I have that weird intuition that's yeah, I might get

979
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:04.480
<v Speaker 3>some activity here or something. Nothing. The first night, went out,

980
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 3>made a phone call, no response whatsoever. Took note of it.

981
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Thought it was potentially because of how thick the foliage was.

982
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 3>We were up on a ridge line, so this telephone

983
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.679
<v Speaker 3>call should have traveled far because if you're up high,

984
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 3>it resonates, and it resonates way out. Marianne will tell

985
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 3>you that it feels like it changes the whole entire

986
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:29.760
<v Speaker 3>atmosphere of this area. So did the telephone call the

987
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.559
<v Speaker 3>first night. Nothing. Did some other stuff. At one point

988
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 3>she was sitting on the back of the truck bed.

989
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I walked back to the truck and she said, at

990
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 3>some point it looked like you were floating like six

991
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 3>or seven feet off the ground. I'm like, oh, that's weird.

992
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 3>That has to do potentially with some other stuff that

993
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 3>I do in the UFO realm, which is the really

994
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 3>weird that we can get into if there's time, just

995
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 3>took note of that and was like, oh yeah, we're fine.

996
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Drove back to the cant no issues whatsoever. The second day,

997
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 3>we get taken to a spot by a gentleman named Eli,

998
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.960
<v Speaker 3>who's there a lot. This guy has the sickest truck,

999
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.840
<v Speaker 3>all the electronic cool stuff that you can imagine. This

1000
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 3>thing has a camera that has two cameras that see

1001
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 3>close quarters wide, wins really cool setups. He's there all

1002
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the time. I'm gonna take you guys to the spot.

1003
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I need to say as I'm walking out to get

1004
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 3>in the truck with everybody, this never happens on an exhibition.

1005
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 3>I've never had this happen. He goes, do you have

1006
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 3>a firearm? I said, yeah, I have two. He said,

1007
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 3>what's the biggest one rifle? You should probably grab that.

1008
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.880
<v Speaker 3>So to me, that was like an immediate red flag.

1009
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, hopefully it's not like that. I didn't

1010
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.679
<v Speaker 3>feel anything for the first fifteen to twenty minutes in

1011
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 3>the truck. So we drove out to a spot, did

1012
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 3>a telephone call, nothing whatsoever. We drove to another spot

1013
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that is a loading for the lake. There's another police officer, Eli,

1014
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.519
<v Speaker 3>another lady Marianne and her husband and myself. I think

1015
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the POLAF officer's name is David. Were standing on this boat. Doc,

1016
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do the telephone call because it should reach

1017
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 3>really far out here. As we're all standing there watching,

1018
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 3>we notice that there's no sound. This is a massive

1019
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 3>lake that's land between the lakes, huge wake. We can't

1020
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 3>hear anything. All we're hearing is bug chatterer behind us.

1021
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 3>David has flear or thermal and he spots a deer

1022
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 3>across the lake that's just drinking water and chilling. No

1023
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 3>big deal. We see this boat and we can't even

1024
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.800
<v Speaker 3>hear the sound of the boat, the wake hitting the

1025
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 3>bottom of the boat. And this is like eleven o'clock.

1026
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.159
<v Speaker 3>There's no other boats out there. There's no sound whatsoever.

1027
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>You would think that you could hear one boat's engine

1028
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and the wake hitting the bottom of the craft as

1029
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 3>it's traveling through the water, and it literally sounds like

1030
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 3>we're in a silent soundproof bubble and there's no sound.

1031
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Eli's really perplexed because he's never had this happen. He's

1032
00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 3>heard paddle borders on their stand up inflatable surfboard paddling

1033
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 3>through the water clear as day, hearing the sound of

1034
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.159
<v Speaker 3>the paddle hitting the water. I can't explain it. I

1035
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 3>do the telephone call, no response whatsoever. The deer across

1036
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 3>the lake drinking water, doesn't even hear this thing. There's

1037
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 3>no way physically it should have been able to hear it. Historically,

1038
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.000
<v Speaker 3>it would have spooked it and it would have ran off.

1039
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 3>There's no sound whatsoever. I don't know what's going on.

1040
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe there was some Native American portion of

1041
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.360
<v Speaker 3>LBL that we were on that potentially protects the land

1042
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:39.679
<v Speaker 3>through ceremony, which is a pretty large effector of the telephone,

1043
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 3>and one of the reasons that I think, if it

1044
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work, that's why, so do the telephone nothing. Let's

1045
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 3>go to another spot. So I'm in the truck. We drive.

1046
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 3>It's probably twenty minutes, and I had the headphones on

1047
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 3>because every time I go with a group, as soon

1048
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:58.119
<v Speaker 3>as I get in the car, I roll down the window,

1049
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 3>turn the headphones on to try to listen for the ambient

1050
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>movement as we're driving. Because you're not hauling through the

1051
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>gravel roads, I'm not really hearing anything. If the truck

1052
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.440
<v Speaker 3>pulls over and we get out, I walk the exact

1053
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 3>opposite way of the entire group to isolate for any

1054
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 3>potential thermal ring or noise, cell phone noise, or radio chatter.

1055
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.280
<v Speaker 3>And I always listen to try to hear if something's

1056
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.360
<v Speaker 3>moving as soon as everybody's out of the car, because

1057
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 3>usually you'll pick up either a low tier call or

1058
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 3>a low wood knock or a whistle signal, oh hey,

1059
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a group here. Everybody walks out.

1060
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

1061
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

1062
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.559
<v Speaker 3>So if I walk away, it's usually easier for me

1063
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 3>to pick that up than anyone else in the group.

1064
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 3>But as we're driving down the gravel road, clear as day,

1065
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I hear what sounds like a brass bell ding like

1066
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:03.519
<v Speaker 3>the bean it resonates. It was so clear that it

1067
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 3>sounded like it was just outside of the truck to

1068
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:09.599
<v Speaker 3>my left, and I'd pull the headphones off and I'm like,

1069
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 3>did anyone hear that? And David's yeah, I heard it.

1070
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Marianne and her husband didn't hear it. They had their

1071
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 3>windows up. I was like, what is that. There's nothing

1072
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:20.719
<v Speaker 3>on the car that should make that noise. We even

1073
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 3>checked as we pulled over. We looked under to see

1074
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 3>if there was maybe something hanging down that a rock

1075
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 3>could have smoked and made that d The weird part

1076
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 3>was it didn't resonate enough to where it followed us,

1077
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 3>but it was almost like a signal bee, there's two

1078
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 3>trucks coming this way. Be aware. We keep driving and

1079
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 3>at this point my weird sensors are starting to go off.

1080
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought LBL was nothing. I shot myself in the

1081
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:49.239
<v Speaker 3>foot for that, because this place is not as scary

1082
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 3>as people say it is. I hear the ding and

1083
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 3>everything changes. Absolutely just bombarded with terrified feeling. I'm looking

1084
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 3>at the spectrum antalyzer. It's bouncing super high in the realm,

1085
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 3>in the signal of like me being scared. Oh yeah,

1086
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.559
<v Speaker 3>there's something affecting you physically. At this point we get

1087
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 3>out of the cars, I'm like, did you guys hear

1088
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 3>the bell? Eli and his passenger were like, yeah, we

1089
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.760
<v Speaker 3>heard it clear as day as we drove. Your car passed,

1090
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 3>we heard it. That makes no sense whatsoever. If it

1091
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 3>was something that hit the bottom of the car, there's

1092
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:24.480
<v Speaker 3>no way it was loud enough to where they should

1093
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 3>have been able to hear it. But they heard it

1094
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 3>behind them. So at that point I'm like, Okay, this

1095
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 3>is bad. We're in it now. Mariann goes, don't wander off.

1096
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:36.039
<v Speaker 3>I have a pretty bad problem of listening of stuff

1097
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 3>or reading signals and just walking off towards stuff to

1098
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 3>try to figure out what it is. Her saying that, Okay,

1099
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.840
<v Speaker 3>this guy told me to bring my rifle. I'm hearing

1100
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.639
<v Speaker 3>this bell that's not there in the woods. There's no

1101
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 3>human around us at this point. It's twelve o'clock at night.

1102
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 3>The lady that I listened to probably more than anyone,

1103
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 3>she's red flagging. He'd be careful, don't wander off. We're

1104
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 3>basically on this dead end road with a cemetery to

1105
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.679
<v Speaker 3>our right. We had backed in so we could drive

1106
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 3>out very quickly if we needed to. Eli starts telling

1107
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 3>us that they've had experiences in this area where they'll

1108
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:14.599
<v Speaker 3>hear something that sounds like it's jumping down from a tree,

1109
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 3>so you hear the landing, the thud, then they'll hear

1110
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 3>it again on the other side, he said. At one

1111
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 3>point him and his research partner were out there and

1112
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.039
<v Speaker 3>they were basically semi circled a good distance away from

1113
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.159
<v Speaker 3>their vehicle. They were like, we can't see anything, and

1114
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 3>then he's look up in the trees because of the

1115
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:36.800
<v Speaker 3>hearing stuff land. So as we're all looking around, he

1116
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.280
<v Speaker 3>sees this blue light that's off in the tree lined.

1117
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 3>I caught the very tail end of it with my

1118
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.800
<v Speaker 3>right eye. This thing just burns off into the woods

1119
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 3>and completely disappears. Him and David are trying to look

1120
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:53.679
<v Speaker 3>around at one of those points where you're like, Okay,

1121
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.760
<v Speaker 3>there's something here, but we just can't see whatever it is.

1122
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's super on edge the whole entire area. It just

1123
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 3>feels very wrong. You're not supposed to be here. We

1124
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.679
<v Speaker 3>don't care if you have firearms. You should probably leave.

1125
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Him and David come back. Eli's likes, Okay, here's the deal.

1126
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 3>We're probably not gonna see something, but I think we

1127
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 3>have an audience. Mary Anne says that she's not feeling

1128
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.199
<v Speaker 3>physically well terrible headache, which is a pretty good indicator.

1129
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm the same thing, just getting bombarded. Absolutely scared. We

1130
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.519
<v Speaker 3>get back in the trucks because now it's let's just leave.

1131
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 3>It's not good. Something bad's gonna happen. There's no reason

1132
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 3>to take measurements out here. We'll just leave it. Like

1133
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it is, and then we'll come back at a different times.

1134
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.159
<v Speaker 3>As we're driving out, we pull over to stop at

1135
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the spot where we heard the d There's no bell,

1136
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing in the woods that could make that sound.

1137
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm literally standing outside of the truck with my rifle

1138
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 3>ready to go Holy shit. This is another one of

1139
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:53.639
<v Speaker 3>those times where I feel super bad, really bad, really scared.

1140
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 3>We don't find a bell, we don't see anything, we

1141
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.039
<v Speaker 3>don't hear anything. You can just feel a heavy presence spell.

1142
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.719
<v Speaker 3>We start to drive back towards the camp. I feel

1143
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.159
<v Speaker 3>terrible all the way until we get into the camp

1144
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:07.880
<v Speaker 3>and the same thing. I basically spent the entire night

1145
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.000
<v Speaker 3>petrified that something was coming out of the woods. At US,

1146
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.119
<v Speaker 3>I have the worst sleep schedule possible. Three am for

1147
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 3>me is like noon for everyone else. So when we're

1148
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 3>camping and there's no one else out if their activity,

1149
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna see this or you're going to experience this.

1150
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 3>At one point I had walked away from the tent.

1151
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>My girlfriend went with me. She's rustling around and I'm like,

1152
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.280
<v Speaker 3>what's going on. She's like, I just heard something walking

1153
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:36.119
<v Speaker 3>around the tent. Were you outside of the tent? I

1154
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, no, I'm forty yards away at the truck

1155
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 3>scanning the woods with thermal Why she's I just heard

1156
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 3>like a series of footsteps on the back side of

1157
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 3>the tent. There's nothing out here. There's absolutely nothing out here.

1158
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 3>That was the only stuff that we had happened in LBL.

1159
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.239
<v Speaker 3>But it was very interesting. The telephone not blasting out

1160
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 3>the signal, it's not traveling, it's not resonating. We can't

1161
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.760
<v Speaker 3>hear anything on the lake at all, no sound whatsoever.

1162
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Then we go this one spot and it's the worst

1163
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:09.280
<v Speaker 3>feeling ever. It's hard for me to explain how it felt.

1164
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:13.559
<v Speaker 3>But if you do this research, you go in and

1165
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 3>at some point you're like, I'm scared. That's exactly how

1166
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 3>the area felt. The minute we parked the trucks, I

1167
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 3>was like, this is bad. We're in it now. I've

1168
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.519
<v Speaker 3>had some other stuff happen too. I found really weird

1169
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 3>piles of bones that are separated, three femurs lined up

1170
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:35.599
<v Speaker 3>in really interesting ways. I found deer vertebrae where two

1171
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.639
<v Speaker 3>separate just a few feet apart. There's a total of

1172
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 3>six bones in this entire area. I can send you

1173
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 3>photos of this stuff for video if you would like

1174
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 3>these two deer vertebrae. The bones are completely clean. It's

1175
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 3>not a stick, it's a tree. So something had taken

1176
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 3>these two vertebrae and laced them on a growing tree

1177
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:03.639
<v Speaker 3>through the spinal column. There's branches below and above, so

1178
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 3>you can tell that it's been there for a while.

1179
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 3>There's two of them within a very short distance of

1180
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 3>each other. They're both laced. I sent this off to

1181
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 3>two biologists a couple other people in the UFO realm

1182
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 3>to try to figure out what it is or what

1183
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 3>could possibly have happened. I talked to a dn R

1184
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:26.239
<v Speaker 3>and a US Force Service personnel in the area and said, hey,

1185
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I found these over here. Have you guys ever seen

1186
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.639
<v Speaker 3>anything like that. Both of them were like, no, one

1187
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:35.360
<v Speaker 3>has any reason whatsoever to be in that portion of

1188
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that wooded area. There's no trail. You're basically bushwhacking into

1189
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 3>the spot. The biologists were like, yeah, no clue. The

1190
01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 3>likelihood of this happening naturally is like one in one

1191
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:52.480
<v Speaker 3>hundred million. They're both like, it would take something with dexterity,

1192
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.599
<v Speaker 3>extreme concentration, and depth perception to be able to lace

1193
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 3>those vertebrae through the spot. Final column on a tree

1194
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 3>that's growing out of the ground. When I found them,

1195
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:07.920
<v Speaker 3>the two trees are broken, but you can still see

1196
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the trunk of the tree and then a couple branches

1197
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 3>popping out the lace through the spinal column, and then

1198
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 3>more trunk of the tree with little new branches popping

1199
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:20.920
<v Speaker 3>out on both of them. I went out with another

1200
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.279
<v Speaker 3>researcher from the area and I said, hey, look, I'm

1201
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:26.960
<v Speaker 3>going to take you to my general spot where I

1202
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 3>have the most activity. This one spot I've been whiffled at.

1203
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I took a hike and when I found the tree

1204
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:37.720
<v Speaker 3>glyph the X with the crossbar. Two weeks before that,

1205
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I was standing in a field and I kept hearing

1206
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 3>the behind me. It was over and over again. But

1207
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 3>when I would turn around and look, and this is

1208
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.560
<v Speaker 3>right at dusk. This is like October. When I turn

1209
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.800
<v Speaker 3>around and look, there's nothing there. Turns out when I

1210
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:55.159
<v Speaker 3>found the skull stuck on the top of the tree

1211
01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and then the glyphs, this is all a direct line

1212
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.079
<v Speaker 3>the field that I was standing in and had no clue,

1213
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 3>and it all clicked. At that one point. You're like, oh,

1214
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm having activity here. I'm hearing this behind me, and

1215
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff is in this region right here. I've

1216
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:17.640
<v Speaker 3>marked all those locations with onex maps. Two times now.

1217
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I've tried to trace back through the onex map and

1218
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 3>Google Earth and some other geolocation stuff, and it's led

1219
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 3>me to a totally different area. The coordinates, the Latin

1220
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 3>launch coordinates are pointed and stuck directly to where I

1221
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:38.159
<v Speaker 3>found these things, but the map leads me off into

1222
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a different spot. I isolate all my electronics too, so

1223
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I try to make sure that if something comes out,

1224
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 3>one thing is off for everything else is off, so

1225
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 3>there's no electronic interference. This area is so weird that

1226
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I could take two compasses and separate them from two

1227
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.000
<v Speaker 3>feet to ten feet and one of them will always

1228
01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 3>spend counterclockwise or clockwise continue, while the other compass does

1229
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 3>not spin at all. I was talking about the guy

1230
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 3>that I went out with the other researcher. We went

1231
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 3>to that same area. I said, hey, look, I'm going

1232
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 3>to take you to the spot. You lead the way

1233
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and we'll go wherever. I'm not going to tell you

1234
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 3>to turn left or right. So we went to the

1235
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:19.640
<v Speaker 3>field that I was whistled at. We start hiking in

1236
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:24.680
<v Speaker 3>without really knowing where we're going. He starts walking towards

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01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:28.039
<v Speaker 3>a ravine that I've had some other activity in. This

1238
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:31.239
<v Speaker 3>is four weeks ago. The underbrush is really thick. It's

1239
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:35.000
<v Speaker 3>dense forests. It's hard to get through, it's covered in ticks.

1240
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.399
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely not fun to be in. But you gotta

1241
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:41.760
<v Speaker 3>go where you need to go. He goes towards this point,

1242
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 3>he finds the ravine. There's a little creek. Let's walk

1243
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 3>back up this hill. He walks towards this area and

1244
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:52.760
<v Speaker 3>we see this clearing within all the underbrush. There's three

1245
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:57.520
<v Speaker 3>femur bones lined up, almost perfectly spaced. There's a portion

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01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:00.880
<v Speaker 3>of what looks like a portion of the blade of

1247
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 3>the hip bone, I'm assuming, and then there's one single

1248
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 3>rib and these are all perfectly arranged in the same line.

1249
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I was like, have you been out here? No, the

1250
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 3>only reason I'm here is because you said this is

1251
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:17.039
<v Speaker 3>the point where you have activity. I was like, okay,

1252
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.520
<v Speaker 3>he could have went out, but he didn't go out there.

1253
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen another person crawling through this area. I

1254
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 3>put up game cameras. I try to make sure that

1255
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 3>no one's hoaxing, and I've never gotten any type of

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01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 3>sign that there's human interaction or manipulation in these areas

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01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 3>at all. Like I said, I try to make sure

1258
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 3>all my data and all my findings are really hard

1259
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to say that's a hoax or somebody's doing this to you.

1260
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I look at everything from the scientific aspect. When I

1261
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 3>take photos of evidence, I take photos like a crime

1262
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 3>scene investigator, properly trained and have done a ton of

1263
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 3>research just through UFO stuff to make sure that I'm

1264
01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.399
<v Speaker 3>doing everything the right way to where I'm not affecting

1265
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:00.439
<v Speaker 3>the situation or the area or the evidence and no

1266
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:03.560
<v Speaker 3>one else's that's what's happened so far. There's a lot

1267
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.760
<v Speaker 3>of really weird little things that happened. But yeah, sorry

1268
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.279
<v Speaker 3>for rambling. There's so much stuff at this point. I

1269
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.039
<v Speaker 3>researched ninety nine percent of the time on my own.

1270
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.479
<v Speaker 3>I got to stop two times by l EO and

1271
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.920
<v Speaker 3>they said, hey, you need to leave right now. I'm like, okay,

1272
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 3>what's the problem. They're like, we're not going to give

1273
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you a reason. You just need to leave the area. Okay,

1274
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Can I come back? Yeah, you just need to leave now.

1275
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.439
<v Speaker 3>So I've pulled out, I've checked to see if there's

1276
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.760
<v Speaker 3>anything going on. I have a police scanner, I can

1277
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.199
<v Speaker 3>listen to the radio. I've had a few times where

1278
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 3>in the UFO realm we call them the men in black,

1279
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:41.159
<v Speaker 3>not like the movie black SUVs parked at my vehicle.

1280
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:45.840
<v Speaker 3>As I'm coming out of the woods, I noticed two gentlemen. Basically,

1281
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:50.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm the only car in the lot. The vehicle's completely unmarked.

1282
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:54.279
<v Speaker 3>They're both dressed in what looks like uniform blues head

1283
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:58.119
<v Speaker 3>to toe, and they're circling my car. I waited because

1284
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.079
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to walk out and start them. They

1285
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:04.520
<v Speaker 3>get in their suv. They drive off. Two seconds later,

1286
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:07.039
<v Speaker 3>getting my truck start to drive off not even five

1287
01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 3>miles away, this same suv is right behind me. It

1288
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:15.680
<v Speaker 3>followed me where I research is separated from the main

1289
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 3>area via a giant river I think it's the Mississippi,

1290
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.359
<v Speaker 3>and they followed me all the way to the bridge,

1291
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 3>pulled off, turned around, went back. I can't tell you

1292
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:27.439
<v Speaker 3>how many times now I've had unmarked SUVs parked by

1293
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.960
<v Speaker 3>my vehicle. Two or three times. I've had radio chatter

1294
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:35.920
<v Speaker 3>interference from something I get the black helicopter all the time.

1295
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I hate talking about this stuff because people are like, oh, yeah,

1296
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.199
<v Speaker 3>that's bullshit. It's a conspiracy. But I've been buzzed in

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01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.119
<v Speaker 3>the middle of a field at night where no one

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01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 3>else is. I can tell when there's a radio signal,

1299
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 3>where an FFA signal being blasted from a helicopter that's

1300
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.640
<v Speaker 3>transmitting because it's required to. I was in a field

1301
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 3>doing research, laying there, no lights, nothing on, just literally

1302
01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 3>waiting until the right time. And the next thing I know,

1303
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 3>I hear this black helicopter. They being me almost directly

1304
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.600
<v Speaker 3>with the spotlight. My thought is, okay, they're running night

1305
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:13.560
<v Speaker 3>vision or fleer or thermal and they saw me. But

1306
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear this helicopter until it was right above me.

1307
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:22.600
<v Speaker 3>They were below what you would consider the acceptable height

1308
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.680
<v Speaker 3>of a rescue or a military helicopter. So bad that

1309
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting the downwashed. This stuff happens to people that

1310
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.840
<v Speaker 3>dig pretty far in the UFO realm pretty regularly. It's

1311
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:37.399
<v Speaker 3>a weird documented thing that is pretty easy to prove. Now.

1312
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I have a rear facing camera that I drive with

1313
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.640
<v Speaker 3>all the time. If I'm in the woods alone, I

1314
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.800
<v Speaker 3>have a forward facing camera, rear facing camera connected to

1315
01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.000
<v Speaker 3>my kit. Mary Anne had a black SUV that was

1316
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 3>parked out in front of her house, completely blacked out windows,

1317
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:55.760
<v Speaker 3>no plate from what I understand, no markings. She said,

1318
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 3>this has never happened. It's really funny because she was like,

1319
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.239
<v Speaker 3>is somebody gonna show up and ask me a out

1320
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 3>the light we saw? And I'm like, you might have

1321
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 3>some interference. I have an aunt and uncle. They worked

1322
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.760
<v Speaker 3>for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They can't tell me directly,

1323
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.800
<v Speaker 3>but I can get the family feel like, hey, can

1324
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.000
<v Speaker 3>you tell me what's the possibility of this happening. They're like, yeah,

1325
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:17.279
<v Speaker 3>it could happen, but it's very weird that it would

1326
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:20.159
<v Speaker 3>happen from us or anyone else. It's just weird. At

1327
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:22.239
<v Speaker 3>this point, it's cool, but it's very weird.

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01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.000
<v Speaker 1>It definitely sounds like it. We didn't get into any

1329
01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of the weird stuff. We'll have to do that on

1330
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.520
<v Speaker 1>another occasion. If you're come back on the show, I'd

1331
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 1>love to get into some of the UFO stuff. I've

1332
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 1>had multiple UFO experiences. I'd love to have you back

1333
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.119
<v Speaker 1>at some point and get into that stuff. I really

1334
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. If had

1335
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 1>a blast talking to you.

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01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, definitely. I listened to the podcast pretty regularly.

1337
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this guy is having stuff happen on his

1338
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 3>property that sounds similar to some of the stuff that

1339
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:55.520
<v Speaker 3>happens across the country. Definitely at the Hozark Mountain Bigfoot conference,

1340
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll pick your brain about the potential UFO activity in

1341
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 3>your area. I will say this, I'm guessing where you're located.

1342
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:06.319
<v Speaker 3>I know you were based in Atlanta for some point.

1343
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 3>There's a really famous ufologists down there that you should

1344
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.960
<v Speaker 3>probably get in contact with. I can try to field

1345
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:16.720
<v Speaker 3>an email. I will say this, if you put this

1346
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 3>on the episode, his name doctor Alan Greenfield. He will

1347
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:25.399
<v Speaker 3>probably hear it and more than likely reach out at

1348
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:30.159
<v Speaker 3>the weirdest time possible without me saying anything at all.

1349
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.319
<v Speaker 3>That's up to you. But that guy is a treasure

1350
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:37.920
<v Speaker 3>trove of information and the last of the really hardcore

1351
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:42.880
<v Speaker 3>youfologist guys in North America. I'd love to come back on.

1352
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 3>We can get into everything from UFO to the cryptis

1353
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff too. My research area, we didn't even cover it.

1354
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 3>It has a lot of very strange ties with Point Pleasant,

1355
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:57.079
<v Speaker 3>the Mothman, the Manhattan Project, all this crazy stuff. It's

1356
01:16:57.079 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 3>all verifiable. The thing that I try to do is

1357
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 3>if you want to see the data or you want

1358
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.880
<v Speaker 3>to share the data with the listeners, I will send

1359
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:09.000
<v Speaker 3>you whatever I have. I think the more eyes on

1360
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.920
<v Speaker 3>everything is better. It certainly helps me because people pick

1361
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.399
<v Speaker 3>up stuff that I don't notice. This isn't what you

1362
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:17.800
<v Speaker 3>thought it is. If there's anything that you want, just

1363
01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 3>let me know and I'll send it your way. For sure.

1364
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:26.000
<v Speaker 4>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

1365
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to job, this job.

1366
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 4>And every day came in looking back for joy, for me,

1367
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:11.760
<v Speaker 4>joy staying right, you come in right away.

1368
01:18:18.119 --> 01:19:10.680
<v Speaker 6>Inside steps still stay stand stay inside, stay step still sustains,

1369
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:23.960
<v Speaker 6>Still in state passst states baste US tosses
