Speaker 1: Bill cunning Endigrant America. Welcome to someone Randy Afternoon in
Speaker 1: the tri States. Coming up later as Michael Wright scheduling.
Speaker 1: Michael Wright, he's the attorney for the estate Shall Always
Speaker 1: Saved the eighteen year old who was killed at the
Speaker 1: hands of Cincinnati police because of his behavior. That's the
Speaker 1: estate of Ryan Hinton, eighteen years old plus. Later on
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the arrangment, further arrangment and
Speaker 1: no bond hearing set this morning and the father's charges,
Speaker 1: that being Rodney Hinton. But until then you may not
Speaker 1: know it or not. This is an election day, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, are you kidding me? It's an election and
Speaker 1: we have the man in charge of elections in the
Speaker 1: state of OHI Frank LaRose, Secretary of State. And Frank,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Frank, how
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: Ben Willie? And it is election day. The polls have
Speaker 2: been open for hours and they're ready to go. Over
Speaker 2: three thousand voting locations open until seven thirty tonight. Only
Speaker 2: two Percentable Highlands have already voted through the early voting process.
Speaker 2: That it means ninety eight percent of you need to
Speaker 2: still get out and make your voice heard. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 3: Two two percent.
Speaker 1: So there's a ways to go to get to fifty percent,
Speaker 1: which is impossible. Tony Bender wants to know what about
Speaker 1: state issue too, because I know everything I think. I
Speaker 1: just I like to communicate that to my listeners. Actually,
Speaker 1: I know nothing about state issue too. So can you
Speaker 1: tell me to vote yay or nay of state issue too?
Speaker 1: Or can you not give me a yes or no?
Speaker 1: Just tell me what it is? Which is it?
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to tell you how I voted. My
Speaker 2: wife and I went and voted early at the Franklin
Speaker 2: County Board of Elections on Saturday, and we both voted
Speaker 2: yes on issue too. If you want to do your
Speaker 2: own homework, vote Ohio dot gov is our website. You'll
Speaker 2: see the full language of the amendment. If you want
Speaker 2: to look at it, you'll see an argument, a very
Speaker 2: concise argument for it, and a very concise argument against it.
Speaker 2: But here's the simple way to understand this. This is
Speaker 2: a decades old infrastructure program in Ohio that borrows money
Speaker 2: to pay for roads and bridges and water and sewer.
Speaker 2: I would call this the good kind of government spending.
Speaker 2: We all know about the nonsense government spending. This is
Speaker 2: the stuff that Trump and Musk have been rooting out
Speaker 2: through dog and there are plenty of things that at
Speaker 2: least the federal level that they waste money on. Infrastructure, though,
Speaker 2: is a smart investment when you're building roads and building
Speaker 2: bridges and water and sewer. This is the stuff that
Speaker 2: our economy rides on. That's why a lot of the
Speaker 2: business groups like the Chamber of Commerce and others have
Speaker 2: been strong supporters of a yes vote on issue too.
Speaker 2: It allows the state legislature to borrow five or sorry
Speaker 2: two point five billion dollars over the next few decades
Speaker 2: to invest that money at the local level. It has
Speaker 2: worked well for Ohio over the last few decades, and
Speaker 2: I think it's a smart thing. But again, do your
Speaker 2: own homework, vote high, dot, and go for all the information.
Speaker 2: By the way, it has nothing to do with football
Speaker 2: stadiums anywhere. There's been some confusion about this. As you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a life long Browns fan. I understand you guys
Speaker 2: have a football team down there at Cincinnati as well
Speaker 2: that you all love and you should. But this has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the debate that's currently happening in
Speaker 2: the state legislature they are debating whether they will do
Speaker 2: a bond program to borrow money for a football stadium.
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with that issue, too, is
Speaker 2: a completely separate thing.
Speaker 1: So if this is intertwined with the Cleveland Browns not
Speaker 1: real popular in Cincinnati, or the Bengals not real popular
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, or with Ohio State, they get all the
Speaker 1: money anyway, because all you guys in Columbus take care
Speaker 1: of Ohio State. This has nothing to do with building stadiums.
Speaker 1: This is about continuing roads and bridges things like that. Correct,
Speaker 1: nothing to do.
Speaker 2: That's it. If you don't like potholes, if you want
Speaker 2: clean water and good sewer systems that work when you
Speaker 2: flush the toilet, then a vote yes on ISSUQ would
Speaker 2: be my recommendation. Again, it invests money in infrastructure only,
Speaker 2: and it does it at the local level. And that's
Speaker 2: what's important to point out.
Speaker 3: You brought it up about the dose, etc.
Speaker 1: We have a candidate for governor who I think is
Speaker 1: going to be endorsed to state wide on Friday by
Speaker 1: the state Republican Party, which.
Speaker 3: Is quite unusual.
Speaker 1: Normally, you Republicans let primaries determine by the voters who
Speaker 1: to vote for, and normally it's hands off. You got
Speaker 1: two or three qualified people running for governor. David yost
Speaker 1: have had him on repeatedly, Mammy, even more than I've
Speaker 1: had you on. Is a very popular attorney general, wins
Speaker 1: every time he runs. He's announced for governor. David Yosho
Speaker 1: would be a good governor. We have another candidate running
Speaker 1: for vike Ramaswami that everyone's endorsing, beginning with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I know you're endorsed him. Got in early.
Speaker 1: And why is the Republican Party, which is supposedly organized
Speaker 1: to let the voters decide in primaries who to vote for,
Speaker 1: gonna tip the scales in favor of Aveke Ramaswami against
Speaker 1: David yos who's been there for the past thirty years
Speaker 1: in one office or another.
Speaker 3: Can you answer that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're right to mention David's a good man
Speaker 2: and a good public servant. But my strong choice is
Speaker 2: for Viveke Ramaswami. I was the first to endorse him
Speaker 2: because I believe that Vivek will be a transformational governor,
Speaker 2: not just a good governor, not a company governor, a
Speaker 2: transformational governor for Ohio. That's why I'm supporting him. My
Speaker 2: endorsement isn't the one that matters the most. That one
Speaker 2: comes from President Trump, who early on endorsed Bleveik. He
Speaker 2: referred to Vevek as something special and talked about him
Speaker 2: as a generational leader. Now, listen, it's still up to
Speaker 2: the voters. That always will be for them to decide
Speaker 2: who they want their party's nominee to be. They will
Speaker 2: make that decision next spring when the state holds it primary.
Speaker 2: I support the party endorsing Vivek. And there's a simple
Speaker 2: really two reasons why the party has a responsibility to
Speaker 2: give the seal of approval, to give a nod to
Speaker 2: who they think is the best person. Most voters are
Speaker 2: busy people. They have families to raise, the businesses to run,
Speaker 2: and they're looking for some indication from the state party
Speaker 2: who they believe would be our best candidate. And for
Speaker 2: the state party to endorse is not an unusual thing.
Speaker 2: In fact, they've endorsed in primaries throughout their history. It
Speaker 2: did last year they endorsed President Trump. Ohio is the
Speaker 2: first state in the country to endorse President Trump, and
Speaker 2: so it is a normal and expected thing for the
Speaker 2: party to do that. But again, I'm supporting him because
Speaker 2: I think he's the guy that can really transform Ohio.
Speaker 2: He's got great energy, great vision. Well, let me describe
Speaker 2: it to you like this. In the military, we have
Speaker 2: leaders that we have to follow because they've got more
Speaker 2: rank than us, and everybody just kind of grits their
Speaker 2: teeth and does what the commander says because he's got
Speaker 2: more rank on his sleeve than you do. But Big
Speaker 2: is that rare kind of leader that you follow because
Speaker 2: you want to. He's got a clear vision, he articulates
Speaker 2: it well. He got the energy to carry that vision out,
Speaker 2: and he also has the courage, the courage to get
Speaker 2: tough things done, like eliminating the state income text, which
Speaker 2: is one of the major proposals he's been talking about,
Speaker 2: improving public education in Ohio, improving our energy grid in Ohio,
Speaker 2: things that really are necessary for Ohio to be a
Speaker 2: state of excellence. I think viak Ramaswami is the man
Speaker 2: to deliver on that, and I think that the Republican
Speaker 2: Party should endorse him when they meet on Friday.
Speaker 1: Frank LeRose played Devil's advocate. He wants to get rid
Speaker 1: of the state income tax, which is like two or
Speaker 1: three percent. There's another group that wants to get rid
Speaker 1: of the state property tax. We have no property taxes,
Speaker 1: then we have no income taxes. One might ask, how
Speaker 1: does the state raise about sixty billion dollars a year
Speaker 1: If there's no income tax and no property tax, where
Speaker 1: does the money come from. There's a tree behind city
Speaker 1: Hall and the one plumb street that Charlie Luken used
Speaker 1: to say, I go back there and shake the money
Speaker 1: tree and the money just falls out. So if we
Speaker 1: have no income tax and no property tax, where hell
Speaker 1: does the money come from? All these things are popular
Speaker 1: in the vacuum.
Speaker 2: Sure, there is a group that wants to eliminate the
Speaker 2: property tax. I think that may be a little bit
Speaker 2: of a of a bad plan. I think what we
Speaker 2: should do is cap the property tax. I think property
Speaker 2: taxes are entirely too high. One of the reasons I'm
Speaker 2: running for state auditor, by the way, is that I
Speaker 2: think that we need to scrutinize the way local government
Speaker 2: spends money so that they're not constantly coming to the
Speaker 2: ballot for another tax increase over and over again. That's
Speaker 2: property tax, income tax. Listen, we compete with forty nine
Speaker 2: other states and many states throughout this country have eliminated
Speaker 2: their income tax, States like Texas, states like Florida State, Flke,
Speaker 2: Tennessee that in many cases never had one. If Ohio
Speaker 2: is going to compete in the modern economy to attract
Speaker 2: talent to our state and to attract businesses to our state,
Speaker 2: I think it's time that we continue phasing out and
Speaker 2: in short order eliminate the state income tax. And by
Speaker 2: the way, other states find ways to raise the revenue
Speaker 2: they need through sales taxes and that kind of thing,
Speaker 2: that we can fund the essential services of state government,
Speaker 2: which of course we want to do. We want to
Speaker 2: have police officers and good public schools and all those
Speaker 2: kind of things that state government needs to buy. But
Speaker 2: the income tax is a bad way of doing it,
Speaker 2: and I think it's time that Ohio joins a lot
Speaker 2: of other states and gets rid of that. That's one
Speaker 2: of the things that Pavec is running on, and.
Speaker 1: Frank leros on property taxes. I don't think it should
Speaker 1: be eliminated. But if someone's a senior citizen on a
Speaker 1: fixed income, if the house is less than no know'll
Speaker 1: pick a number three hundred thousand dollars and they have
Speaker 1: an income of fifty thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: You don't pay state income tax on Social Security, but
Speaker 1: you pay federal tax. Maybe that's going to change. Ken
Speaker 1: I'm sensitive to older Americans that don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of assets, that have to sell their house bills they
Speaker 1: can't afford.
Speaker 3: What can you do to keep property taxes? But put
Speaker 3: a cap.
Speaker 1: If you're a senior citizen on a fixed income without
Speaker 1: a half million dollars in assets, without a job that's
Speaker 1: paying you five hundred thousand dollars a year, how do
Speaker 1: you fashion it to keep the old folks in the
Speaker 1: community because they pay taxes their whole life.
Speaker 3: How do you do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right, especially for those seniors that paid
Speaker 2: off their homes or for people like me that are
Speaker 2: still paying a mortgage. When you look at your interest
Speaker 2: payment and your principal payment and it's starting to look
Speaker 2: like your property taxes are just as much as your interest.
Speaker 2: In principle, it's un American. And there are two things
Speaker 2: that lead to this problem. One is again, wasteful spending
Speaker 2: at the local level needs to be screwed. That's something
Speaker 2: that the state auditor can do and the other thing
Speaker 2: is that they need to have a cap on property tax.
Speaker 2: Rather a cap on property tax would help prevent these
Speaker 2: big increases that we've seen in recent years. That's something
Speaker 2: that I think our next governor of Big Bronswami, working
Speaker 2: with our state legislature, will get done. And that's why
Speaker 2: I'm a big supporter of that. For seniors, the state
Speaker 2: of Ohio has a thing currently called the homestead exempt
Speaker 2: by a very small measure of release to seniors, but
Speaker 2: it's not nearly enough, and I think we need to
Speaker 2: boost that now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, you bring up police officers this community. I know
Speaker 1: you're a high flute and politician there in Columbus, but
Speaker 1: you're also a military man. And we had a terrible
Speaker 1: incident in which a father, thirty eight year old Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: used his car as a weapon to kill Deputy Sheriff
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson last week. And we have a situation here
Speaker 1: where the eighteen year old his son was hoisting was
Speaker 1: jack and cars all over northern Kentucky, driving them into
Speaker 1: Ohio to use for various purposes, including committing crimes using
Speaker 1: a Kia or a Hyundai. It's not their vehicle and
Speaker 1: the police recalled. They come to the scene. The eighteen
Speaker 1: year old boy runs. He's got in his possession a
Speaker 1: nine millimeter with an extended mag The officers say the
Speaker 1: gun was pointed at them and had the ability to
Speaker 1: shoot about thirty two projectiles in about six seconds. The
Speaker 1: officer took quick notice of that fact and shot and
Speaker 1: killed Ryan Hinton, who's eighteen years old. I have his attorney,
Speaker 1: the attorney for the estate, coming up in about an hour.
Speaker 1: His name is Michael Wright. And at this point, there
Speaker 1: was a hearing hell this morning in municipal court in
Speaker 1: which my friend judged tyrone Yates. And I mean my friend,
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. We used to practice law together.
Speaker 1: Set no bond in the case of the father who
Speaker 1: murdered in cold blood a police officer. You travel the state,
Speaker 1: you go to Cleveland, unfortunately in Toledo and Columbus and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed a general lack of respect for law
Speaker 1: enforcement in every major city, not just in Ohio, but
Speaker 1: around the country.
Speaker 2: I think there are a small minority of Ohioans that
Speaker 2: don't respect law enforcement. I think the vest mcburry of
Speaker 2: us do. I was with a group of sheriff's deputies
Speaker 2: last night in Clinton County, and they all have had
Speaker 2: the black bands on their badge because they were in
Speaker 2: mourning for their brother, Deputy Henderson. And so we need
Speaker 2: to first and foremost keep his family and his brother deputies,
Speaker 2: brother and sister deputies in our prayers. Every day we
Speaker 2: ask good men and women to put on a badge
Speaker 2: and a gun and to go out there and to
Speaker 2: risk their lives to protect our safety. Anyone who would
Speaker 2: dare try to or be successful in taking the life
Speaker 2: of one of our dear public servants, one of these
Speaker 2: great law enforcement officers deserves to have the full force
Speaker 2: of the law brought down them. I think that somebody
Speaker 2: like that you need to make an example of them
Speaker 2: so that people see that this is not something that
Speaker 2: we as a society would ever tell. These are our
Speaker 2: finest or finest Ohioans that serve us in law enforcement.
Speaker 2: And guess what, ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
Speaker 2: these are men and women that follow their training and
Speaker 2: do the right thing. And on those rare occasions when
Speaker 2: somebody doesn't do the right thing, there will be consequences
Speaker 2: for it. They will have to pay the price if
Speaker 2: they don't follow their training, and they don't do the
Speaker 2: right thing. But someone taking the law into their own
Speaker 2: hands is completely unacceptable. And this perpetrator, if the facts
Speaker 2: prove this out, it's the full penalty that's available to him, and.
Speaker 1: It's supposedly it's a death penalty. But my friend and yours,
Speaker 1: Mike Dwine, doesn't. He kind of mouths the idea that
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of the death penalty, but in reality
Speaker 1: he isn't because he will not sign a death warrant.
Speaker 1: Do you have some indication if a fake Ramaswami is
Speaker 1: the governor that he would sign death warrants for those
Speaker 1: who purposely murder police officers.
Speaker 2: I have to let him speak for himself on that issue.
Speaker 2: As much time as we spent out on the campaign trail,
Speaker 2: I've not heard him articulate his his stance on that,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure he has a well thought out one.
Speaker 2: I'll say this that I'm generally one that believes that
Speaker 2: the death penalty should be used very sparingly. In many cases,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense. I put the case is
Speaker 2: somebody that in Wanton cold blood kills a law enforcement officer.
Speaker 2: That's one of the times that that the death penalty
Speaker 2: definitely should be applied doesn't apply.
Speaker 1: And if Hamilton County doesn't prosecute him with a spec
Speaker 1: death penalty, spec, we don't have.
Speaker 3: A death penalty.
Speaker 1: I felt the same thing in Clairemont County when that
Speaker 1: young father purposely murdered as three boys in cold blood,
Speaker 1: three children, and they decided Clairemont County not to have
Speaker 1: a spec death penalty and gain life imprisonment without possibility
Speaker 1: of pearl.
Speaker 3: Claremont County doesn't have a death penalty.
Speaker 1: And if this is not prosecuted as a death penalty case,
Speaker 1: we don't have a death penalty in Hamlet County. And
Speaker 1: if it's applied that haphazardly, we shouldn't have the death penalty.
Speaker 1: If people like this don't get it, we might as
Speaker 1: well not have one. But once again, Frank Leroe, Secretary State,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. And you say vote yes an
Speaker 1: issue too, And if you need more explanation, check out
Speaker 1: the website vote Ohio dot gov. It explains what it is.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with stadiums, has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that. It's about roads and bridges and sewer systems,
Speaker 1: things like that. And once again, Frank LeRose, you're a
Speaker 1: soldier and Secretary of state and you're going to become
Speaker 1: what the auditor in about a year and a half.
Speaker 3: Is that the deal?
Speaker 2: God Willing? I'm running for Auditor of State and listen
Speaker 2: a local elections matter. Get out and vote. The polls
Speaker 2: are up until seven thirty tonight. Will even give you
Speaker 2: a free sticker when you come to vote.
Speaker 1: I promise plus a two percent turnout so far, there's
Speaker 1: a little ways to go.
Speaker 3: Will there be a ten percent turnout? Is that possible?
Speaker 2: Gosh? I hope. So I'm not holding my breath. One
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two thousand, six hundred and fifty two,
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two, six hundred and fifty two
Speaker 2: Ohioans have voted already through the early voting period. That
Speaker 2: means two percent. That means about ninety eight percent of
Speaker 2: us still need to get off our bucks, get out
Speaker 2: there and vote and do our our CIC duty.
Speaker 1: Now, this is about ten thousand different ways to vote.
Speaker 1: That sounds to me like voter suppression. But we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Uh, Frank, Thank you very much for coming
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show, especially your comments on law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Thanks, Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: And of course Franklin Rose himself is a soldier, so
Speaker 1: he's in the reserves, he served active duty, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And so I love having individuals on like Franklin Rose.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. My comments next on not Guilty
Speaker 1: by Reason of Insanity and also the comments of Clyde
Speaker 1: Bennett this morning during the arrangement the second arrangement of
Speaker 1: the murderer of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson Bill Cunningham on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW