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<v Speaker 1>At a book.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, thanks so much for listening to tonight's live

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<v Speaker 2>stream episode of dog Me in the Counters Radio. I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it. Before we bring on tonight's guest, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give you some updates. Number one, I'm beyond

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<v Speaker 2>happy to say to announce that Joe moved into her

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<v Speaker 2>new home at the start of this month. There were

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<v Speaker 2>some hang ups with the other property that she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to move into, but that's okay. The house that she

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<v Speaker 2>moved into at the start of September here is actually

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<v Speaker 2>a better option for her, So she's beyond elated about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and both of us we can't thank you enough for

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<v Speaker 2>all the support and help that you gave her that

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<v Speaker 2>made this move possible. We're also glad for her and

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<v Speaker 2>not having to deal with that horrible house with all

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<v Speaker 2>that black mold in it. And I've been in talks

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<v Speaker 2>with her about coming back on so she can personally

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<v Speaker 2>update you on how she's doing. And I know she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to thank all of you at least one more

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<v Speaker 2>time for all the help you've given her, not just

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<v Speaker 2>the financially, but all the support. She was really having

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time with the experiences that she had and

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<v Speaker 2>of course she can't thank you enough. Moving on to

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<v Speaker 2>the second update, as I'm sure a lot of you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to remember, I had planned to bring Kim

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<v Speaker 2>on for a special live stream last Tuesday, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>poor Kim, she got sick and lost her voice. So

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<v Speaker 2>luckily she's better now. She sent me a message, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was yesterday, telling me that she's almost back

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<v Speaker 2>to normal. So I coordinated with her to air a

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<v Speaker 2>special live stream with her this Monday night at nine

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<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern time, so she can come on and tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about this latest encounter that she's had with Imber,

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<v Speaker 2>and on that show, she's got something that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>blow you away to announce something she noticed when she

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<v Speaker 2>had this most recent sighting with Ember. Of course, Imber

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<v Speaker 2>is the name that she gave that female, the dog

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<v Speaker 2>woman that she's seen a couple of times. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the show you're not going to want to miss,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Having said that, moving on to tonight show,

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<v Speaker 2>some people have had dog me and encounters under unfortunate circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say, But just imagine for a

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<v Speaker 2>second what it would be like to be trying to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with being in the middle of a hurricane with

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<v Speaker 2>all the wins and all the stuff that comes along

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<v Speaker 2>with that. Well, not only that, but being in a

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<v Speaker 2>cemetery to boot between maybe midnight ish and one am

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, Well that's going to be traumatic for

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much anyone. But adding to that, imagine for a

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<v Speaker 2>second what it would be like to think at first

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<v Speaker 2>that you're removing yourself from the situation, just to find

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<v Speaker 2>out that that dog me in is actually coming for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just horrible nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I'm getting at is, of course I've got

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<v Speaker 2>tonight's guest on ready to bring in here to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that experience. But yeah, just imagine for a second

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<v Speaker 2>what that must have been like. All right, without any

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<v Speaker 2>further ado, let's bring him in here now before I do,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you know he wanted to remain anonymous. With

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<v Speaker 2>that in mind, we've decided to just refer to him

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<v Speaker 2>as Jared Tonight. Jared, thanks so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Vig, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're welcome, Glad to bring you on. Jared, please

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<v Speaker 2>give us a brief bio in yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh let's see, I'm a father of two girls and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bunch of animals and rescue animals, cats

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<v Speaker 1>and dogs, and lived in all over the East Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in the southeast North Carolina for the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenties plus years. And and let's see, I work in

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<v Speaker 1>work in sales, and I always been an outdoorsman, love

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<v Speaker 1>to fish. I don't do as much honey as I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do, but I used to do a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>But but still big fishermen. And just it's kind it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scoop on me. This is not hopefully that's sufficient.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is. It definitely sounds to me like you

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<v Speaker 2>stay busy, very busy. Yes, yeah, I'm sure you do

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<v Speaker 2>stay busy. You mentioned the rescue work that you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you keep the animals at your home or at

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<v Speaker 2>a different place.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a foster. I have been a foster

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<v Speaker 1>many times. Currently I don't have any, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>often I help find foster place foster homes for animals,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly dogs and cats. Sometimes there's others. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>I opened my doors up as well quite often, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just had about every every kind of especially

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<v Speaker 1>dog you can imagine. So wow, that's they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>much choice, so we try and help them, you know, well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awfully admirable. Yeah, I'm really glad that you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a good man, You definitely are. I'm wondering, Jared,

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<v Speaker 2>how much of a burden have your dog mean encounters

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<v Speaker 2>put on your day to day life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of hard to quantify, you know. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole level roller coaster of emotions and responses

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<v Speaker 1>that go with that. But I think over the years

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<v Speaker 1>since my first encounter, it's I've recognized more that it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot more significant, more a larger burden than

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<v Speaker 1>I originally recognized or allowed myself to recognize, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I still go out thought in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I still do those things, but I'm hypervisu vigilant now,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of from your intro, it's kind of eerie

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<v Speaker 1>time when you're the middle of a storm, whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very vigilant of whenever weather or pressure changes happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of I've kind of related that to this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm always kind of on edge when when

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<v Speaker 1>things change, such as weather, if that makes sense, or

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<v Speaker 1>or any thing just just like if it gets quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so much more vigilant than it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be so I think that takes a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>and energy. So how to quantify that, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it's a big significant change though.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I can understand why, and yeah, once bitten twice

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<v Speaker 2>shy from now on. Unfortunately, from now on, anytime there's

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<v Speaker 2>bad weather out it's blowing and raining. I can't see

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<v Speaker 2>how you can't go back to that night in the

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<v Speaker 2>cemetery and relive what, unfortunately happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the perfect storm, right. The cemetery just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be the place that I could park because

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't get through the road. So it just uh

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<v Speaker 1>not been in that cemetery on a hundred times, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was never a big deal. But it happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>there when I had my first agoun or.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it happens that way sometimes. Unfortunately, you told

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<v Speaker 2>me in our first conversation that your encounters have changed

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<v Speaker 2>you how.

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<v Speaker 1>So primarily, yeah, the it's hard to acknowledge that actually

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<v Speaker 1>these there are when you see these things, that it

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<v Speaker 1>actually is true. You can hear a bad listen to it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when it happens to you, it does change. It flips

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<v Speaker 1>your world upside down. Because everything you've been like in

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<v Speaker 1>my my MySpace, it was that everything that I've known

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<v Speaker 1>is not true? And and who do you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>about that? Which is so grateful for you got you,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's really just, uh, it kind of it

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<v Speaker 1>isolates you. It isolated me knowing something that that many

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<v Speaker 1>people do but many many don't. It is, uh, it's isolating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the best way to describe it. Hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really limited where I go or what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to a degree, but not not as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm still willing to push it and go and

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<v Speaker 1>go out, and you know, I'm not a homebody. But

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<v Speaker 1>more so, it's kind of flipped the script on the

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<v Speaker 1>world as I've seen it until that time, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, ever since you learned how to speak, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been hammered into your headtime after time that monsters don't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Well guess what. In September of twenty eighteen, in a

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<v Speaker 2>cemetery during a hurricane, you found out that's bunk, that

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<v Speaker 2>they do exist. So yeah, that kind of a revelation

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to turn everything on its ear. It's

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<v Speaker 2>totally understandable. You talked about the isolation you tend to

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<v Speaker 2>feel now after having such an experience, And this next

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<v Speaker 2>question touches on that you've been blackballed unfortunately by friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family. To what extent and how hard has that

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<v Speaker 2>been on you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought I was being pretty cautious sharing this

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<v Speaker 3>because understandably most people don't have these experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say most by just meaning them by the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I selectively chose at certain times to try and

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<v Speaker 1>share with certain people, and and and I there are

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<v Speaker 1>select people that are certain people that have never looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me the same like something's wrong with me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to play it off like it was not like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I was just messing around or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. But but it is. It is affected

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<v Speaker 1>my family relationships, It is affected a few. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of friends that are very supportive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>out of the handful I've told, but I've lost half

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<v Speaker 1>of them, oh yeah, so and not not no, not

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<v Speaker 1>soily not necessarily lost it that day, but it was like, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong with that guy? Uh, because they can't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's uh, you know, it's I'm fine, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>through it and getting bye. You know, but it did.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed relationships, it did.

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<v Speaker 2>What a shame. They're supposed to be family, They're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be friends when you need the most most in

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<v Speaker 2>the situation like this, what we're talking about, they abandoned

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<v Speaker 2>you on that. That is absolutely horrible. Shame on them

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<v Speaker 2>for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to I try to think about though, if

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have an experience and someone came to

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<v Speaker 1>me like that, and I tend to think, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I would be very supportive, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would be. But you never know too, you're there. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the way human nature.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that is a good point. If I had

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<v Speaker 2>account how many eyewitnesses I've spoken with over the years

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<v Speaker 2>who if it wasn't them who had the encounters, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a family member or a friend of theirs

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<v Speaker 2>who did, tons of them would have taken the same stance,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, made fun of them, probably tried to alienate them.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Or get concerned, is that guy? Okay? You know, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we all hope we do the right thing. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of an extreme situation, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Yes, it is, yeah, very extreme, Jared, If that

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<v Speaker 2>dog man wouldn't have come after you that night. How

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<v Speaker 2>much easier do you think that experience would have been

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's kind of. That was terrifying. Absolutely, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really got me because I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>a dog man was before this. That never you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't even consider that. The thing that really scared

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<v Speaker 1>me before getting chased was that I had a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of dread. When I do you mind if I share

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<v Speaker 1>the story a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's wait to go into details.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be the fear of that. The fear

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<v Speaker 1>of that was was there's a lot of fear before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I was chased, I kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it, but I was kind of blacked out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing except for that door I'm trying to get to,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was terrifying. It was absolutely terrrit Lying I

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<v Speaker 1>had that not happened, I don't know, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty damn scary. I'm sorry, Pretty pretty scary regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure it was scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That just doesn't do what happened any justice. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know. Definitely, Yeah, we do need a

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<v Speaker 2>new word to do it. Any justice. Before I ask

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<v Speaker 2>you to tell us about your encounter. There are two

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<v Speaker 2>things I wanted to address. Number One, we've got two donations,

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<v Speaker 2>one from Lily Lewis Lily Lewis and one from Tiffany Harding.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it. Appreciate that. And also too, I

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<v Speaker 2>encounter he had that he describes as torturing him to

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<v Speaker 2>present day. Well, unfortunately, about two days ago, his mother

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<v Speaker 2>let me know that he's currently in the ICU in

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<v Speaker 2>a medically induced coma and he's not doing well right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That just gutted me. It just gutted me. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>dogged me and related why he's in the hospital right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, definitely prayers go out to him. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to reveal a name, but prayers definitely go out

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And of course we hope he pulls through that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a good situation at all, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be praying for him a right. Having said that, Jared,

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<v Speaker 2>please tell us all about your encounters. Now, give us

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<v Speaker 2>every last detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this was you know what six years ago or so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the coast, and there was a pretty large storm

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<v Speaker 1>that came through. So fortunately it was this is a

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane and it fortunately it lessen than strength right before

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<v Speaker 1>it got to us. But usually they passed through in

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<v Speaker 1>a day or so. But unfortunately the prevailing winds or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever the weather pattern was, it just stayed on

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<v Speaker 1>top of us. But uh, level one, what two than

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<v Speaker 1>a one and a tropical storm for five or six

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<v Speaker 1>in a very windy thunderstorm with periods of trench and

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<v Speaker 1>rainfall for five days. And and it did hit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was enough power we couldn't really get around. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>but and we had to cut our way out of

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<v Speaker 1>the just normal hurricane stuff, cut our way out of

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood. But we so we had limited limited Uh

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<v Speaker 1>transfer ways to get through. I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>about a mile or so away, and they had a

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<v Speaker 1>better generator system than I did, but I still had

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<v Speaker 1>mine at my house. But I had a young child

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, very young, and so I was going

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<v Speaker 1>get there. So I was parking my car and checking

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<v Speaker 1>on generators, filling them with gas, well not to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the lights on and you know food and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerate running. But checking about three times a day, so

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<v Speaker 1>all that background. I went at about day three, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four into the storm. It was three, but went

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<v Speaker 1>back and I and I had to park about a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter mile from my house I was staying in. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I've done this every day multiple times as dead

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. But I went out to check one

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<v Speaker 1>more time at night and I went got did everything

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<v Speaker 1>at my house, came back and this it is flown,

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<v Speaker 1>This fis windy, is kind of eerie. But I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>drive around parking this as close as I can possibly

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<v Speaker 1>get to walk to this other house where I'm staying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, oh, look there, like I have done multiple

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<v Speaker 1>days in a rouw. I got out of my suv

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<v Speaker 1>at the time and I had a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with bags that I was gonna get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the mind by suv. But I got out,

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<v Speaker 1>closed the door, and before I got to the back

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<v Speaker 1>back of this four hun Er two to open the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>I had I just say, just something hit me, like

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of bricks, this impending sense of dread, doom,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, why not? The storm's three days old. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not scared of the storm at all. Now I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the cemetery all time, and that's not it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just just I was terrified try to open the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I opened the back gate of the truck and then

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<v Speaker 1>but see, I was trying to ignore it and get

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff together, but it was overwhelming enough that and

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<v Speaker 1>foreign to me that I ended up closing the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>running to the closest door, which is now the passenger

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<v Speaker 1>door of my my four runner, and jumping in and

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<v Speaker 1>locking the door. And I didn't even know why. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very very very uneasy feeling, so sitting there for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, thinking them crazy, I'm insane. No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything. I'm scanning around, but I don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I eventually mustered up about fifteen ten fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, let's just get your stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, walk about four hundred yards and you're you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did. I got my bags out of the

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<v Speaker 1>back and loaded myself up. Still feel the same way

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm feel a little better because I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>push through it. And then I got back around about

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<v Speaker 1>halfway up the car, and let's see, I was the

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<v Speaker 1>direction I was not going was downhill a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>there was. It was kind of a slow rolling hill.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm walking around in the car, I see I

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<v Speaker 1>catch some really really strong eyeshine, know, very amber. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just piercing downhill. So it's kind of hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's very dark out and on occasion

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<v Speaker 1>the clouds are apart and you know, your little moonshine

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<v Speaker 1>come through. So I see a little bit here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but it was very dark and couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>how well. I couldn't really tell how far down it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was within It was no more than thirty yards,

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<v Speaker 1>no more probably twenty five. And I'm like, that's pretty terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep walking. And then it moved a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and I realized that the separated. His eyes were

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<v Speaker 1>really big. It was there was it didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We a lot of codies in the They really a

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<v Speaker 1>box and they really there there there. It was too

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<v Speaker 1>big for that. It didn't make any sense. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really low to the ground too, uh so, very confused,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting terrified. And then then the clouds parted

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and I saw some shine and I

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<v Speaker 1>could see that it had the hunch as I'll call it,

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a dog's legs. I could see clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing I saw. And it was way

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<v Speaker 1>far much farther back than where the eyes were, and

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<v Speaker 1>this thing was kind of laying down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very far bigger than I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And around the same time, it raised up a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of feet in the back likes didn't do and it

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<v Speaker 1>deal with coyote, but this was not coyote. So I

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<v Speaker 1>it was terrifying and I were raised up. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna come to me, and I just ran

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<v Speaker 1>had about one hundred yards backpack and carrying the stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got a bunch of stuff. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get their stuffs. I can. I dropped a

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<v Speaker 1>few things, but I got and twenty five yards or

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<v Speaker 1>so that I was on the grass and it's I

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<v Speaker 1>remember thinking, please don't follow me. And then within about

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<v Speaker 1>a second or two, I heard the football and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like it sounded like, you know, like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a it wasn't walking, it was you know, back legs,

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<v Speaker 1>front legs. It was I just sorry, I forget it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, you know, but it was. I even had

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<v Speaker 1>a I even in my car. I had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some protection if you will, and I had that with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't even think about that. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the door, just run and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't recall when I got to the pavement hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard I'm not sure if I remember or

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<v Speaker 1>not when I heard the footfall behind me and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really close, but I never heard it. It's the pavement.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking about if I hear that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in real big trouble. But I also it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a blur. I'm not sure if it followed me father

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<v Speaker 1>than that, I don't think it following past the grass,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was I played sports, I'm a little It

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of fast, but I probably ran. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>record time forty or whatever, you know. That day, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just I didn't think i'd get out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't. I had my family over there at

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<v Speaker 1>the house. It's a young child and I I I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even really explain what happened to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I, but I was I just wanted to patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>I was head on a swivel off the back gate

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, trying to make sure it doesn't come

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<v Speaker 1>into the house. It was no sleep that night, but

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<v Speaker 1>I made it. I made the door. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>h At the time, I didn't really know what it what.

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<v Speaker 1>I some research and the amber eyes and then the

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<v Speaker 1>hind legs, I know, and then and then I had

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<v Speaker 1>a set of teeth on too. The moon hit. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh it uh when you're not even familiar with this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really hard to explain, and it really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to wrap my head around. But anyway, Uh sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm digressing. It just it's pretty terrifying and uh, never

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<v Speaker 1>see anything that big.

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<v Speaker 2>No, please don't apologize, no need to apologize at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that that was I mean, that was the main encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>But just for the reference that I wasn't. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about dog Man, and now I do

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<v Speaker 1>because I look, I mean endless google searches, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for for what's what this was. And then I actually

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<v Speaker 1>found you guys, and I saw that's exactly myself.

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<v Speaker 4>So uh it was it was I didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>really dark brown or black, but uh man, the things

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<v Speaker 4>that amber eyes, that was that was the really piercing part.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Let's see, it wasn't great at all either. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was really dark brown, might be black, but

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<v Speaker 1>just big, just long and stretched out. I was laying

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<v Speaker 1>down on the stomach and it started raised up. So

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<v Speaker 1>anyway from there, I was terrified all night and I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to you know, what are you tell your people around?

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<v Speaker 1>It happened that it was very you know, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure what to do. But uh yeah, unfortunately, next day

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<v Speaker 1>or two that's still un cleared up and I could

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<v Speaker 1>we could get through and didn't have to park there anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I actually didn't get back to the house

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<v Speaker 1>and let my generators run out until the road opened

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<v Speaker 1>to us about a day and a half later. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so it's pretty scary. Let's see. Then my wife she

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<v Speaker 1>I told her about it. She she didn't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with me or what what are you freaking out about?

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<v Speaker 1>But then but when I eventually calmed down and told

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<v Speaker 1>her about it, she was suborn. She was, but and

420
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 1>ironically enough about within team months, I want to say,

421
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't recall. Three to three to six weeks later,

422
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>she was driving past that area and kind of stopped

423
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 1>in her tracks, uh, at her head lights shining on it.

424
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Right across the street from where I was, there's a

425
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>h it's probably five probably five feet tall in the

426
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>top brown of white fence. And she after retelling her

427
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 1>about the eyes, I think she caught some of her

428
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>headlines and she actually saw a dog man crouching down

429
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 1>behind the fence, crouching with his eyes just over the

430
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>top run which maybe it's four feet or five, but

431
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>it was crouching, so I don't know. He founded at

432
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>home for a little while, but I don't live there anymore.

433
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>But she saw him too, kind of shook her up

434
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot as well. Since we've met, we've met not

435
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>long after that, frankly, but uh, that was the that

436
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>was my hurricane experience.

437
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>When you're ready, please continue with the next one.

438
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Sure, so that was, like I said, six years ago

439
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>or so, and I and I just do want to say,

440
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I, you know, did some homework, found you guys,

441
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's it's been very helpful. But you know,

442
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I deal with this, you know, you deal with this,

443
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the family, the friends, and tell a few

444
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 1>people as soon as you know. I know we redundant.

445
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But a couple were supportive, a couple weren't. And I

446
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of claimed up about it for a while.

447
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So kind of get through it, you know, working through

448
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it and living life. But I moved again since the

449
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>move after that house farther out in the country and

450
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>love it's great, and uh very recently actually, and all

451
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden about two two weeks ago, less two

452
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I had another encounter. There's I have two

453
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 1>places up there, and I have a fence behind my

454
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 1>one of my backyard, pretty good sized yard, and nothing's

455
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>behind us. It's just a field and then a bunch

456
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of trees. It's a very country and uh, let's see,

457
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 1>there's my dogs are going crazy, one in particular was

458
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>going crazy and I went out and there's a heavy

459
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 1>heavy footfall. There are black bears around here. But and

460
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I caught the eyes of this thing and it kind

461
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of kind of peeked around the corner and I caught

462
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 1>some eyes and just just took me right back to

463
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>where I wasn't cemetery that day. And I was like,

464
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I know what that is? Uh, And it took off

465
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I one hundred miles an hour is probably, I mean

466
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it was so fast, it was amazing, and it shot

467
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>down as a straight shot in this field I can

468
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 1>see almost a mile and it was gone, just gone

469
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 1>in like in no time. It was you know, it

470
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 1>was crazy. It was really heavy and then just so swift.

471
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean it felt like took like four steps and

472
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it was completely out of you. It was really, I

473
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 1>know it was more than that, but it was pretty

474
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>how do I say, impresses and terrifying at the same time.

475
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>But and then frankly, I have other properly have some

476
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>chickens on right down the street from here, and that

477
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 1>one we had. Now we get little little problems with

478
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 1>other old predators coming looking at going after chicken. So

479
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I was check on them and went out the other

480
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>night and uh, saying I heard the same thing and

481
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it was just heavy, heavy football and I didn't see

482
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 1>at this time, but it was so heavy, there's nothing

483
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it could be. And it took off so fast because

484
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I could hear it. It was in the kind of

485
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a ditch. It was very grown up, probably ten twenty

486
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>feet and you could see the brush moving. But it

487
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>was so fast. It's almost a good skip, like twenty

488
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 1>yards and then the maybe thirty yards. Then see it

489
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>move again, just gone. It's like what, I can't describe

490
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>how fastest thing is. That all happened about two weeks ago,

491
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>within you know, nothing for a little bit, and then uh,

492
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>last night shut up again at the house where uh,

493
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, two separate properties with they're very close. Uh,

494
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 1>same thing, got some eyeshine. It stuck around a little bit.

495
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't stick around though. I brought dogs in and

496
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm just gonna go hold up because I

497
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>don't didn't want to deal with that again. But but

498
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>so the same relative area, but six five six years apart,

499
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>this this one's dig this one digger. I its just

500
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's pretty. You can feel the ground whenever

501
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 1>when it when it starts takes off, it's pretty. It's

502
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty wild. So so it kind of resurfaced after I

503
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was kind of getting through it everything and uh, but

504
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 1>it kind of kind of all came kind of flying

505
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>back in the past couple of weeks. So those are

506
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>those are my encounters. If I change it has changed

507
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>my life.

508
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure they have. If I heard you correctly,

509
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you said this most recent dog mean that you had

510
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>an encounter with, was probably bigger than the one that

511
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 2>you have you encounter with in the cemetery. Did I

512
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>hear you right when you said that.

513
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 1>The reason I say that is because I could feel

514
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>it on the ground when it when it took off,

515
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't recall that was the first one. Other

516
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>one was really big, but this one I couldn't get

517
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a full scope of his eyes. But the first three

518
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>or four steps twice is this good doing? Like I

519
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>could feel it under your feet. I'm standing in the

520
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>yard and it was pretty It's heavy. It was really heavy.

521
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm speculating a little bit, but it was. It's

522
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.279
<v Speaker 1>enough to make it go inside and locked the door.

523
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that would be if you had to guess how

524
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>much do you think it weighed?

525
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I mean we have black bear around here

526
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is hair and that got me. It's completely shooting in

527
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the dark three four hunred pounds. I mean it was

528
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it's probably light from I don't know, but I mean, yeah,

529
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. That's a that's a rough, really rough estimate.

530
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 1>But it was big enough that I could feel it.

531
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you could feel it through the ground,

532
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty big. That's definitely big enough.

533
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's about maybe point. It was a little close,

534
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 1>a little twenty yards away, so it was it wasn't

535
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>right on top of it, but it was. It was

536
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>still that far away. It's pretty big.

537
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be pretty bad. When the dog man

538
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 2>and the cemetery rose up, did you hear any strange sounds?

539
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't. I did not, and and I want

540
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to clarify, whenever I saw it rise up, what I

541
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>what I think happened was is now that it was

542
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 1>down low and it raised up almost on his arms,

543
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>if you will, because it went up about two feet,

544
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 1>and that's when the moon the clouds cleared, and I

545
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>saw that the moon came through and I could see

546
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>the legs still laid out behind it. So it didn't

547
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>make any sounds. I think I know what you're talking about,

548
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>But no, I didn't. I didn't catch any sounds. But again,

549
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the winds howling through, so I don't recall that.

550
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with winds blowing fifty sixty maybe even seventy miles

551
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>an hour, then yeah, it's gonna be yeah that time. Yep,

552
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that's going to make it awfully hard to hear anything

553
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>that it did. Definitely, after having that first encounter, you

554
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>said that you started to feel kind of marked by it.

555
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Please expand on that for.

556
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Us, Well, I think I think it goes to the

557
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 1>point and this is my thinking it through. Yeah, your hypervision.

558
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I became hypervision hyper aware, and obviously you know it's

559
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a threat. You know you're the more aware, but and

560
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 1>you just certain situations where I might walk down the

561
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>path in the woods or wherever it may be. In

562
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the past, you might get a little creepy feeling. I

563
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>just said to ignore it, and now I don't. I

564
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>don't do that anymore, and I feel like that's a hypervigilance.

565
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>And then also I I've had enough for those that

566
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>felt a little creepy that I just kind of walked away,

567
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>got away from the area. So without seeing them until recently,

568
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I I always suspected maybe there's a document out here,

569
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>but but now it's kind of and I mean forty

570
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>five minutes away, you know, and there's another one. You know,

571
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like it does you kind of feel like once,

572
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like once. I don't know how. This is

573
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just my thoughts. I don't know how. It's probably no

574
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>validity to it, but it's almost like, yep, I know

575
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you're there. Now my visit you again, and it did?

576
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's just kind of it does feel kind

577
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>of like a kind of feels like there's kind of

578
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the fear factor, you know, and the I don't know,

579
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a reminder we're here. It's kind of what it feels like.

580
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but it

581
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 1>just it's kind of seems like, why why have most

582
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of the population not seen this? And now I got

583
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 1>to see it four times? You know? So yeah, kind

584
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of feel marked. That makes sense.

585
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>That does make sense, And it's totally natural that you

586
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>would wonder that.

587
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Why me.

588
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I wish there was a good answer I could give

589
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you for that, but I can't, unfortunately, But understand when

590
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 2>you listen to so many eyewitnesses come on and talk

591
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>about having follow up encounters with these guys, it's only

592
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 2>natural to wonder to think that, Okay, if I have

593
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 2>an encounter with a dog man, it's pretty much a

594
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 2>given that more to come, more to follow. But is

595
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>hard as it might be to believe, it really is

596
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the exception and not the rule that an eyewitness who

597
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>has one encounter has a follow up encounter, because normally

598
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you just have one. Of all the people I've spoken

599
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 2>with about their encounters, it's it might seem common for

600
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>there to be a follow up encounter, but that's definitely

601
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the exception, not the rule. I just wanted to make

602
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>sure you understood that.

603
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, because one of those things where you you

604
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 1>remember that those that did have a follow up and no,

605
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not, but you know, without doing the math on it,

606
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's oh, so I'm extra special. Now I'm ben teasing,

607
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's uh, it's yeah, well yeah, so so thank

608
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you for that. I mean, it says it's good to

609
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 1>not feel marked if you will, but it's they get

610
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in your head, you know, it's just it just doesn't

611
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and I know you are folks with encounters, are just

612
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 1>that it can really mess with your head. It really can, Yes,

613
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it can.

614
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, life can be difficult as it is without these

615
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of problems. But when you stack these words of

616
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 2>problems on top of the problems that you deal with

617
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 2>on a day to day basis in life, Yeah, it's

618
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 2>just too much. And it definitely isn't fair. It's not

619
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 2>fair at all. When the dog man moved, Jared, was

620
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it jerky in its movements or was it smooth?

621
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 1>It was very fast when it when it raised up

622
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>extremely fast, one swift motion. It was That's the best

623
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I can say. It was. It was fast, raised about

624
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>two my best guess two feet, and and it was

625
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.639
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was really fast. It was almost

626
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like a like a glitch on the screen, but it

627
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 1>moved really fast, so I couldn't After that I turned

628
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and ran. I didn't see it running, I just heard it. Uh.

629
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>The other one on the movement was just so it's

630
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so fast. It was you know, it got out of

631
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the bushes and the recent last night. Uh. And then

632
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 1>then it wasn't I want to say jerky. It was

633
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like, how is it possible we got

634
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>there that fast by taking four steps? But my best

635
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 1>way to describe it, it was kind of a commotion at first,

636
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and then it was just like gliding on this. Yeah,

637
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 1>so I did. Jerky is not the work to answer that,

638
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to try and circle back and answer your question, jerky

639
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 1>is not what I saw.

640
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>That might seem like a strange question, but the reason

641
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I asked it is, Yeah, there are quite a few

642
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 2>eyewitnesses who reported seeing the dog me in that they

643
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 2>encountered kind of jerking and twitching like a crack addict,

644
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>almost just almost uncomfortable in its own skin and just

645
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't really even hold still. So that's why I was

646
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>asking you that question for that reason. A few years

647
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 2>before you had that first experience, Jared, you had some

648
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>pure normal experiences. What can you tell us about them?

649
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I was in I had a go of

650
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>it lately. But there was a house that I part of.

651
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit of renovations things like that

652
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and flips, but first the house and was working on

653
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and and just had a every feeling wonder in particular,

654
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>nice big brick house. But they thought I was really

655
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>scared of it too. And she was young at the time,

656
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the early elementary school. But but she

657
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>she she was a little nervous about some things and

658
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>was always pay attention to that and then I had

659
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 1>a had a lot of sounds, a lot of a

660
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of just just just things didn't make sense. You know,

661
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you let go of one or two of those. But

662
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>then then when you hear start hearing stuff pretty loud,

663
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>slamming doors things like that, then you know, you know,

664
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>go check it out. And I had a lot of

665
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess I see stuff, a lot of a lot

666
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 1>of sounds and noises, but I saw one point saw

667
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 1>something pretty good, uh big black miss if you will.

668
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And then and I didn't really share that too much

669
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 1>with anyone else, especially my dog, and was scared. But

670
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 1>then we had experience. I didn't really snow here much,

671
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 1>but it did and our h this is probably the

672
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>next within a few months next when winter came around.

673
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>But that's a really weird experience where we're all looking

674
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>out the win it's the snow day kids of all

675
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>school and this and that, and we don't have any

676
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of those. But it was pretty exciting. And we lived

677
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 1>on the like the waln the hill near the coast,

678
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>so all the kids were coming through the backyard to

679
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>go sledding. So we're doing that. And then my youngest

680
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>daughter and I, well she's the oldest art now. But

681
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 1>we were looking out the wind now and we're like, huh,

682
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>these guys are walking around their yard. It is fenced in.

683
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a guy all of a sudden, it was literally

684
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>like a minute or two since we were looked and

685
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>we looked back and this guy standing like fifty feet

686
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 1>in our yard looking up at the tree. And we

687
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>were just like, what's he doing there? We're liked, we

688
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>know him, you know, just looking through that, you know.

689
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>And and literally I said, stay stay here, look at

690
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 1>that at the window, and I'm gonna go out there

691
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and talked to him. By the time I got to

692
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the door, he disappeared. My daughter and everyone else studying

693
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the day, she's terrified. It was really strangely, really strange.

694
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>There's no ways, so we'll get to that. So that

695
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 1>was that sounds kind of it's just paranormal. Same house.

696
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 1>We had a one place on the back jack patio actually,

697
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>but the uh, every so often you get this like

698
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 1>all this weird perfume. It's it's very strange. There's an

699
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>old cemitary bar in that house too. I don't choose

700
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 1>by cemeteries, but they happened to be one there too.

701
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure if I did do with it,

702
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>but there's weird sentence, perfume. And then this ties into

703
00:44:53.320 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the same daughter. One night, I was still awake working

704
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and she was asleep, and I heard the doors closed

705
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>all outside and the doors closed and went to look

706
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>for her and couldn't find her anywhere. She was just

707
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>not there. Big house, you know, four better, four betters bonus.

708
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>But but anyway, I couldn't find her, and you know,

709
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>parents are crazy, terrified, you know, I just said, what happened?

710
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Where did she go in the front door? Whatever? But

711
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 1>so police at this point. And then I said, uh,

712
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 1>my wife was looking and couldn't find her, and I

713
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, let me look one more time, and I

714
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>went back up in her room. She was there, but

715
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't. She was laying on top of her bit

716
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>for her comforter, and she was sitting in a fetal

717
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>position and saying the woman with the food box, the

718
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>one with the food box. No idea with that, man,

719
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, chills right now, no idea what that meant.

720
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>But kind of shook her out of it a little bit,

721
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>like where did you go out? She had no recollection

722
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 1>of it, zero nothing, and she the other sho was perfume,

723
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 1>she said, the little with food bucks, the Wanean food bucks,

724
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the perfume, perfume, and and that probably does not do

725
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>with what I've what I've noticed, but but at the

726
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 1>end of the day kind of we did a little

727
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>research and found out that there was there's a story

728
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>about that from about one hundred and twenty years ago,

729
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 1>but but she had no recollection, and it was it

730
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 1>was pretty terrifying. She uh, it was almost like a

731
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess a sleep walking verse out of body experience.

732
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 1>But she had no idea where she went. We didn't

733
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 1>know what she wanted it. We probably walked in the

734
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 1>other direction where she was, but it was it was

735
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>really it was scary. It was really scary. So I

736
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's any do with the dog and

737
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 1>stuff either, but it just certainly opens you up to

738
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:12.360
<v Speaker 1>knowing there's a lot more going on than yeah, the

739
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 1>day to day, if you will.

740
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 2>It does open the up some awfully frightening experiences. And

741
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it makes me wonder if you think that those experiences,

742
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 2>at least to a certain degree, might have prepped you

743
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 2>for the dog man encounters.

744
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Think about that too, you know, I mentioned the hyper

745
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>vigilance is by the best of earlier but just that

746
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like it's opening a door. And I've wondered

747
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>that many times. There. Maybe they're not different. I was

748
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna say they're very different. Maybe they're not. I mean

749
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know what we spoke before I was even

750
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about is almost their paranormal feature or harsh portion

751
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 1>of this, which I don't think anybody knows. But it's just, uh,

752
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it certainly seems like I want to a door opens,

753
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>then you know, hard to close you will.

754
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how it normally is, especially when you open

755
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>up a door like that. Yeah, it's not good at all. Well,

756
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>let's get to the listener's questions from the live chat.

757
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>The first one is from Andre's Cisalez and Andres wants

758
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>to know, did you or anyone in your home get

759
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.760
<v Speaker 2>very sick after any of the encounters.

760
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Trying

761
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I'm not missing it, and I don't

762
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>think so. Uh no, I see. Yeah.

763
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I was asking is sometimes that's how

764
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it happens. After having a cryptid around, people can get sick.

765
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if that's infrasound or maybe something else, but

766
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 2>it does happen sometimes.

767
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Next, well, let me rephrase that real quickly. Though I

768
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>personally have had not evention. It was not immediate, but

769
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I've had some strange health problems since around that this

770
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 1>all started. I have don't know it's for later or not,

771
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 1>but they were more delayed, long term stuff I still

772
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with that happened around after the time of this,

773
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't an immediate illness. As that makes sense.

774
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, sometimes it happens that way. It's hard to explain.

775
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they are connected, like I said, but I guess

776
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 2>we're never going to know. This next question is from

777
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Lori Mass and Laurie wants to know if a government

778
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>let you know since you were a child that brings.

779
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what she means here that brings are real.

780
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess she's saying that these things are real and

781
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that you only get to see them if they want

782
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>you to. They are always around. Do you think that

783
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>you would have been traumatized?

784
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Great question. I don't know. It's one that I wish

785
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they would tell me the hand. Maybe it was better

786
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in the dark, but I guess those of

787
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 1>us that have the encounter that we're not in the dark.

788
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 1>So I guess my answer is, yeah, I wish I

789
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was told before, but uh, that's uh, that's if that's

790
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the case. But yeah, I don't A tough question. I

791
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>am personally one that would like to know. I would

792
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>rather know good, bad, ugly, and not live in a

793
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 1>box where, you know, might more comfortable, but I would

794
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 1>rather know. So they answered that is I would yes,

795
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I would like to know.

796
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It might seem like a given that anyone would want

797
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 2>to know that these guys are out there and that

798
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.119
<v Speaker 2>would help them deal in a healthier way, but there

799
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>are people who will tell you point blank that they

800
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 2>would much rather not know, just be oblivious that these

801
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 2>things are out there. So you never really know someone's

802
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 2>going to answer that question. You really don't. This next

803
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>question for you, Jared, is from Lily Lewis, and Lily

804
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 2>wants to know, Jared, do you feel like they want

805
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 2>a relationship. I think she means a relationship with you

806
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.039
<v Speaker 2>because you were the landowner.

807
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh I was gonna say, yeah, I kind of do

808
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>with the relationship part. I'm not sure why that is,

809
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but it being the landowner. I don't know. I hadn't

810
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 1>thought about that before. We kind of like the mark

811
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 1>of thing, the mark term we used earlier. Yeah, I

812
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 1>do feel like they want a relationship. But as far

813
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>as being the landowner or not, I guess the fact

814
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>is everyone had an encounter. I haven't owned the property,

815
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>so maybe well, I don't know, but almost like it

816
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 1>was like land maybe that was theirs or I'm not sure.

817
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about that, but I do think they

818
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>want a relationship with people. They have encounters, and that's

819
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 1>just that's my opinion.

820
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Please keep in mind that property owner, that's a human thing.

821
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't think these guys, I don't think sasquatch animals period.

822
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>They just don't recognize ownership. I mean, you're.

823
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Here, they had it before we did, right, Yeah.

824
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. They see They probably see all the

825
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 2>outdoor areas their property, their territory, and you just happen

826
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>to dwell in whenever you come outside. So as far

827
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 2>as being a landowner, I don't think that's a paradigm

828
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 2>that they share. I really don't.

829
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was thinking about being on the lane. I

830
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 1>guess it's the better way to think that. But anyway, Yeah, yeah,

831
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>not sure. I'm not sure if they move around a

832
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 1>lot or you know, I'm presume they do because my

833
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>first encounter was a place I've lived there for a

834
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 1>few years or this happened, it was not very rural area,

835
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:02.199
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that they're yeah, transient or not,

836
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's that might have something to do with the

837
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>land occupy land park. Well.

838
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, like any of the large predator, these guys

839
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>are obligate carnivores. But like any have a large predator,

840
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a given they're going to have a

841
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.280
<v Speaker 2>huge home range. If they stay in one area too long,

842
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going to deplete the resources in that area almost overnight.

843
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's a given they're going to have to move around,

844
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and eventually they'll come back into the same area, but

845
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:35.559
<v Speaker 2>it's probably going to be a while before they do.

846
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 2>In most cases, sometimes they do stay in one spot

847
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 2>longer than expected, longer than normal. But yeah, that definitely

848
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 2>does seem to be the exception and not the norm.

849
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 2>This next question for you is from Anne Console, and

850
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Ann wants to know did Jerry mention seeing a tail?

851
00:53:56.639 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't. I did not see a hell I

852
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 1>My perspective was I saw not quite head on probably

853
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty degrees to the side, so I saw the

854
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>side profile and from front, but I could not see

855
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it a tail or not.

856
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had so much going on that you're doing

857
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>good to know your own name. You're just trying to

858
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 2>get the heck out of there, and talking about you

859
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 2>getting the heck out of there running at top speed.

860
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Have you come to terms with the fact now that

861
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you weren't running for your life, that you didn't save

862
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 2>yourself that night, that it was just messing with you

863
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 2>by coming after you.

864
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have now, I say yes I have. Instead

865
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of a process and and and everyone else that shares

866
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 1>these things that I listened to, you know religiously, if

867
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you will and your show and speak with you too,

868
00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it all helps. It helps you understand that I'm not

869
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's tonight or tomorrow's happen again. I will

870
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.559
<v Speaker 1>not have a sill experience, but it won't haunt me.

871
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 1>It won't it won't hold me down like it did

872
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in the past. Yes, is the answer that question.

873
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's really good news. I tell the listeners to

874
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>help the eyewitnesses so much more than they're ever going

875
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to know or appreciate well, it's definitely appreciated here and

876
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:26.000
<v Speaker 2>by the listeners. Count on that. I'm sorry, it's counted.

877
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>It's appreciated by me and the eyewitnesses. I should have

878
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 2>said this. Next question for you, Jared is from Marta

879
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Magdalena and Marta wants to know if you see one once,

880
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you're more likely to see them again. Makes you wonder

881
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 2>why is it because you are more aware or because

882
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they're after you? I guess it's more of a statement

883
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 2>more so than anything. If there is a twist of

884
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a question to that, Yeah, that's a question we're never

885
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to answer. All we can do

886
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is basically guess about that. Next question for you is

887
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.599
<v Speaker 2>from Andre's Carazalees and Andres wants to know did you

888
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 2>get any nightmares that felt too real to be dreams?

889
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes I did, and I still have them occasionally.

890
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the same theories to have, but but

891
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I yes, I've absolutely had some people called lucid dreams.

892
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been plagued by them like some people have heard.

893
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's and this is this actually relates right back

894
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 1>to the fact of like the wanting relationship with you,

895
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:41.599
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's my dreams have gone from very terrifying

896
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 1>to oh you're here again, if that makes sense. And

897
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't want you to hear, but I'm

898
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:50.639
<v Speaker 1>not as scared anymore. But I have them. I mean

899
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I've gone maybe months without one. I don't have them

900
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but I will have them, and I

901
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>had one were very recently a few days ago. But what,

902
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as terrified anymore. But so and as far

903
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>as the fact that doesn't feel like a real dreamy,

904
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 1>absolutely it's not. It's it's much easier to be aware

905
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of your surroundings in the dreams with these guys the

906
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>dogument as opposed to other dreams that I have job

907
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>will dream very night, but where you don't, at least

908
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 1>for me, I don't have as much control or awareness

909
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>as I do with these dreams. So I think the

910
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:31.639
<v Speaker 1>answer to that is absolutely yes.

911
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.480
<v Speaker 2>The part of your brain that handles your ability to

912
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:41.079
<v Speaker 2>reason switches off when you're asleep, So that's why you

913
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:42.960
<v Speaker 2>have dreams and you wake up and you think, what

914
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 2>in the world was that about. I mean, when you're awake,

915
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 2>what happened to you in the dream you would just

916
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>instantly recognize is just off, it's not right. But when

917
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 2>you're asleep, unless you refine your abilities for being able

918
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 2>to lucid dream, that is, you're not going to be

919
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.079
<v Speaker 2>able to make sense of things and a lot of

920
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 2>cases or control what's going on. But yeah, when you

921
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 2>wake up, that's when you really need to focus on

922
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>seeing what happened for what it really was, and seeing

923
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>these guys as accurately as possible for what they're likely

924
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.639
<v Speaker 2>to do and what they're not likely to do. Again,

925
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.599
<v Speaker 2>you can never think for one of these things, and

926
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you are going to have deviant ones that are dangerous

927
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and will harm you if they get the opportunity. But

928
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 2>like I've said countless times, ones like that are definitely

929
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the exception, not the norm, so please keep that in mind.

930
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>The next question for you is from me. I think

931
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it's me pronounced me me grave Guard or me grab Guard.

932
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Was it the same one that you and your wife saw?

933
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I think they're asking about this most recent one that

934
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.679
<v Speaker 2>you said you thought might have been bigger.

935
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, as we're in a it's a

936
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>different location, and yes, it seemed the It's just so

937
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.159
<v Speaker 1>hard to say, but I mean it's been what more

938
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>than a half years and I I think it's different.

939
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if it's the same one, it's even

940
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>scarier than they do have a relationships with. I don't know,

941
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but also in five years, maybe got bigger. You know,

942
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what my my my instinct is it's different,

943
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>not it's the same one. If that, yeah, that's my

944
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a gut feeling with the same one.

945
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that could be a good thing, that could be

946
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. If it's the same one, then okay,

947
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.960
<v Speaker 2>he's coming back around again. If it's a different one, Okay,

948
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.039
<v Speaker 2>you've had an encounter with more than one dog man,

949
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 2>You've got a new one in the area, so yeah,

950
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 2>pick your poison.

951
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, that is that is a little terrifying because you know,

952
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 1>I fact is I did make it to the house

953
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that first time, and and I'm okay, so you know

954
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this new the new one. It is a little it's

955
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>hopefully he's hopefully the same one, right you said, or

956
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't have a read on that. So yeah,

957
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not.

958
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Going to give you the warm and fuzzies to think, Okay,

959
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 2>well maybe it is another dog man, But I mean

960
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.400
<v Speaker 2>there is a silver lining in this and all this,

961
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean you've already come to accept the fact that

962
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 2>this dog man, the one you saw in the cemetery,

963
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 2>it could have caught you if it wanted to. That night,

964
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it allowed you to make it into the house. Well,

965
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you saw it that close to your house. That means

966
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that guy, he's probably seen you more times than you'd

967
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.679
<v Speaker 2>ever believe. You'd probably vomit if you had a clue

968
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:43.679
<v Speaker 2>about half the encounters, half the times that thing's been

969
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 2>around watching you, monitoring you. But it's never harmed you.

970
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:49.880
<v Speaker 2>It never harmed you any of those times it was

971
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 2>watching you. It didn't harm you that night when it

972
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 2>chased you. The one that you heard walking around that

973
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you think might have been bigger than that first one.

974
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>It knew you were before you knew it was there.

975
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 2>It didn't harm you that night. And just like the

976
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 2>one you saw the first time around, I'm sure that

977
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 2>one's been watching you, monitoring you more times than you'd

978
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 2>ever believe. It hasn't harmed you. So, like I told

979
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 2>you in that first conversation, as long as you see

980
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 2>your experiences for what they really were, how they actually

981
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 2>played out, and consequently what these guys showed you were

982
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:28.920
<v Speaker 2>their intentions with their actions. As long as you focus

983
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 2>on the truth, in other words, you can definitely deal

984
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>with this and make this get to the point where

985
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.639
<v Speaker 2>instead of thinking back on the experiences is oh my god,

986
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, oh my god, you can think back

987
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 2>on these experiences and say, huh wow, that sure was

988
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>something else. Does that make sense?

989
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Makes a ton of sense to me, And it did

990
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of kee me in on tying a few other

991
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 1>parts of this conversation together that you know, you asked

992
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>about the paranormal experiences too. I've always questioned whether the

993
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 1>dog man has a paranormal aspect, if you will, because

994
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:12.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't anyone who was just you know, pays any

995
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>attention to this paranormal stuff that you the feed on

996
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.360
<v Speaker 1>energy and fear and if you believe that, I just

997
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people say that. So it almost

998
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 1>feels to me like it's like it's that way with

999
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 1>dog men, where obviously it could have got me. Yeah,

1000
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.119
<v Speaker 1>it could, you know, you hear about a lot more

1001
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:34.519
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to get a lot of people. But

1002
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a there's it's it's almost like the salouming.

1003
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the fear keeps them going. They enjoy it,

1004
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I know, like people said, kind

1005
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of get a smile or smart and I actually got

1006
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.159
<v Speaker 1>the first one. I had a kind of I don't

1007
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 1>know if he was trying to show his teeth to

1008
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>eat me or if he's smiling or not. But I mean,

1009
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's almost it's almost like they it

1010
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like there's a pleasure about creating fear.

1011
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 2>They do seem to feed off of it. Yeah, Unfortunately,

1012
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 2>this next question for you is from an console and

1013
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Ian wants to know. Not to be too nosy, but

1014
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.480
<v Speaker 2>were you ever involved with Ouiji boards or tiro cards

1015
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 2>or palm readings?

1016
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 1>No? Absolutely no, No.

1017
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, that's a common threat. It seems like

1018
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 2>whenever I ask an eye witness if they have ever

1019
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.480
<v Speaker 2>played with those, in a lot of cases, in most

1020
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>cases it seems like they say yes, So I'm glad

1021
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 2>you have it.

1022
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.440
<v Speaker 1>That stuff scares me. I do think, based on the

1023
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.400
<v Speaker 1>house I've told you about in the paranel experiences, that

1024
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I've encountered some things that might have opened the door,

1025
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>but I've never intentionally done it. Absolutely not.

1026
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, that's very good. This next question up

1027
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 2>is from Shannon Uminaser in Shannon, Hey, Shannon. Her question

1028
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 2>is did he say exactly where his encounters happened? What county?

1029
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And of course you don't have to answer that if

1030
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to, you don't want to.

1031
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:19.599
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, Southeast North Carolina is is is what I'm

1032
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:20.639
<v Speaker 1>comfortable saying.

1033
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 2>All right, easy enough. The next one for you is

1034
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 2>from Scott B. And he wants to know. I guess

1035
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:32.159
<v Speaker 2>it's more of a statement nobody would go camping or

1036
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 2>visit the national parks. A lot of money is lost

1037
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 2>by the government my opinion, talking about if they actually

1038
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 2>let the cat out of the bag that cryptids are

1039
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.559
<v Speaker 2>out there, especially dog men. Yeah, they don't want that

1040
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:52.119
<v Speaker 2>to happen, that's for sure. The next question, the next

1041
01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 2>question for you is from Kamala and Kimala wants to

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01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:57.920
<v Speaker 2>know what color were their eyes and fur?

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01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Completely the amber. I didn't even know the exact color

1044
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>until after I looked it up and it was the

1045
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 1>most strongest amber I've ever seen. I know some people

1046
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 1>say they're red and it's not. They were amber and

1047
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they were just they were fiercing amber. The best I

1048
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 1>can say the fur I want to say black, could

1049
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 1>have been dark brown. I didn't see any gray, but

1050
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it might have been really dark brown. But I want

1051
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.119
<v Speaker 1>to say dark brown, really dark brown. But it could

1052
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 1>have been black too, because that was, you know what,

1053
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 1>letting cloud cover go around the moon, you know, and

1054
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the hurricane time and the one, the one recently is

1055
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 1>definitely black, but the first one, I think it might

1056
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:45.320
<v Speaker 1>have been dark brown.

1057
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, you had so much going on.

1058
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 2>You thought you were trying to save your skin from

1059
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 2>this thing. You thought it was going to try and

1060
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.960
<v Speaker 2>rip you apart. So you're doing really good to pick

1061
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 2>up any details about these guys. I'm impressed.

1062
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it's amazing what your mind can do and

1063
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.559
<v Speaker 1>not split second when you're terrified, and how much you remember,

1064
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's so well, yeah, it's

1065
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like you took I You could do that every day.

1066
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like you took a picture. Oh no, you're fine. Yeah,

1067
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.360
<v Speaker 2>when you're panicked like that, it's like your mind takes

1068
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 2>a picture, a snapshot of what you see, and it's

1069
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 2>burned into your mind. So yeah, that does make sense.

1070
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.039
<v Speaker 2>This next one for you is from Beverly Jaeger, and

1071
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 2>she wants to know how tall it was.

1072
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the first one is I'm over six feet and

1073
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 1>it was it was seven at least. I could not

1074
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:46.760
<v Speaker 1>get a read on the one I've seen recently, but

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01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's bigger. I don't know nate seven

1076
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to eight, but the first one was certainly. My best

1077
01:06:56.039 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 1>estimate is about seven seven happened. It was stretched out,

1078
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it was laid down, so I couldn't really tell exactly

1079
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 1>it was too big, but it was. It wasn't enormous,

1080
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 1>but I mean it was. It was a very big

1081
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:11.679
<v Speaker 1>human size under that, so very big.

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01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.039
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't big for a dog man, but it

1083
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 2>was still big at the same time. I mean seven

1084
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:22.719
<v Speaker 2>eight feet that's big. Yeah, yeah it is. The next

1085
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 2>one up is from Christine Robesek, and her question is

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01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.079
<v Speaker 2>did it feel like it was going to attack you?

1087
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? I mean yes. I mean my first count that

1088
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I got and run, I mean I I felt like

1089
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.079
<v Speaker 1>I had an intending doom even before I saw it,

1090
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:47.639
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was terrifying. I I didn't think

1091
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 1>I would make it four hundred yards just to presume safety.

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01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that was a given that you thought it

1093
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.800
<v Speaker 2>was going to attack you. That's what These guys are

1094
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 2>masterful at They know how to push our buttons. I mean,

1095
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the many unfortunate things about these guys.

1096
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:08.280
<v Speaker 2>They know how to get a response out of us.

1097
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 2>They really do. So I've got no doubts you thought that,

1098
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and yet every reason to think that too. The next

1099
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 2>one is from Todd Bettina, and Todd wants to know

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01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 2>what came to mind when you first saw the dog man.

1101
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 2>What did you think it was? Did it look ancient?

1102
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Good question?

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01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Again, I was. It just had this massive intending doom

1104
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 1>fear that came over me before I saw it, and

1105
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I walking around the car, and then I didn't want

1106
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to even look, but I saw something to look at, uh,

1107
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:57.399
<v Speaker 1>And I I remember thinking first thought was, oh, there's odd. Wow,

1108
01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>why is that animal out Here's probably coyote out here

1109
01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:02.479
<v Speaker 1>in this storm and it's crazy. But then I noticed

1110
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it's way too dig The odds are too digg. Then

1111
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the moonshine came on it. So once I actually saw

1112
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:09.359
<v Speaker 1>it was I didn't know it was a dog man.

1113
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know now, but I mean it was

1114
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting to see a kyote or a fox

1115
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.119
<v Speaker 1>or you know, possum or something, but it was once

1116
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I saw the size of this thing, I was I

1117
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was just that isn't supposed to be. It doesn't exist.

1118
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Run That's that's what's going through my mind.

1119
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 2>So that and tons of other things as well. Yeah, yeah,

1120
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:42.239
<v Speaker 2>countless things and understandably. So the next question for you

1121
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.239
<v Speaker 2>is from yappie band Joe, and he wants to know

1122
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:48.319
<v Speaker 2>or she wants to know, have you ever had the

1123
01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:51.399
<v Speaker 2>feeling or strong desire to go into the woods even

1124
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:52.720
<v Speaker 2>though maybe you didn't want to.

1125
01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna speculator here that that is there's

1126
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.880
<v Speaker 1>an intrigue about this with me. Yes, I have an

1127
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:12.640
<v Speaker 1>intrigue about this stuff now, But I also I've never

1128
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.600
<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to walk. Well maybe a little bit, but

1129
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 1>there's not not overwhelming, not overwhelming, But but I am

1130
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:22.239
<v Speaker 1>very intrigued and and I could say I could. I

1131
01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 1>can feel a pull, but never it's not to the

1132
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:28.399
<v Speaker 1>point where I'd stop what I'm doing to go. You know?

1133
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

1134
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 2>That does make sense?

1135
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1136
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:35.680
<v Speaker 2>The reason why they're asking that is sometimes it seems

1137
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 2>like sasquads use ultrasound to make people do things that

1138
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 2>they normally wouldn't do under their own accord. So I

1139
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:44.960
<v Speaker 2>think they're wondering if maybe this dog man might have

1140
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 2>hit you with ultrasound on an occasion where you found

1141
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:52.520
<v Speaker 2>yourself doing something that was against your best interest or

1142
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 2>something you normally wouldn't do. I think that's where that

1143
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:56.680
<v Speaker 2>question came from.

1144
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I will pause and and and and stop. And

1145
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.840
<v Speaker 1>there is a draw, there is a pull, but so

1146
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 1>far i've not it's not been overwhelming, but there is

1147
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely a poll.

1148
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, yep, yeah, sometimes it happens that way. Beverly

1149
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Jaeger is next question. She wants to know, have you

1150
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:18.520
<v Speaker 2>ever thought of giving it a peace offering.

1151
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:24.600
<v Speaker 1>One? I don't know if we if we're not at

1152
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 1>peace or not, but and I wouldn't know how to

1153
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.039
<v Speaker 1>do that, but that's a great idea. I'm not sure how.

1154
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about how to do that, but that'd

1155
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:37.079
<v Speaker 1>be great if I could. I never really thought about it.

1156
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Though there's a researcher out there who recommends that eyewitnesses

1157
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:46.199
<v Speaker 2>do that, I'm going to highly recommend against that. These guys,

1158
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.359
<v Speaker 2>they are so up and down as far as their

1159
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:53.079
<v Speaker 2>emotions and how they respond to things. I would definitely

1160
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:57.800
<v Speaker 2>recommend against doing that because Okay, if you start putting

1161
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 2>offerings out there on a pattern, for example, well every Tuesday, Well,

1162
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 2>what happens if a Tuesday comes around and you don't

1163
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:08.399
<v Speaker 2>put an offering out there because whatever, you're sick? If

1164
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.520
<v Speaker 2>something happens, you're visiting family out of town, how's it

1165
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:14.399
<v Speaker 2>going to respond? Is it going to take that as

1166
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a slight And the last thing you want on your

1167
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.800
<v Speaker 2>hands is a dog man that feels slighted. So that's

1168
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.239
<v Speaker 2>just one of the many reasons I'm going to recommend

1169
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:26.800
<v Speaker 2>against every even beginning that sort of thing.

1170
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't agree with you more. That's actually a relevant

1171
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.960
<v Speaker 1>topic where I live now. People are feeding alligators and

1172
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 1>then they don't have their food. They get angry. Well

1173
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 1>they've been fine for one hundred years here. But you

1174
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:40.520
<v Speaker 1>just don't do it, you know, don't you know, don't

1175
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 1>start it?

1176
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Yeah, don't start none. The won't be none. Well

1177
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 2>if these guys, I guess there is going to be some.

1178
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:52.159
<v Speaker 2>But you know, why put a situation in place where

1179
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you're increasing the odds of having a problem.

1180
01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Flam the fire right, No, yeah, that's right.

1181
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 2>The next one is from true heart. They want to

1182
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>know if it mind.

1183
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Spoke to you. I felt like things slowed down. But

1184
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 1>again it was such a maybe before, like before I

1185
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.399
<v Speaker 1>even saw it, because they gosh, I'm getting chills again

1186
01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. It was somehow it got my attention

1187
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 1>before I even saw the thing, and it was I

1188
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't get any words, any verbalization. I didn't recognize it anyway,

1189
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but certainly got to me. I know that, but I

1190
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:32.800
<v Speaker 1>did not as far as you did. Mine spoke. As

1191
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>far as speaking the language, I don't know. I didn't

1192
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:38.199
<v Speaker 1>hear anything direct, just a feeling.

1193
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.880
<v Speaker 2>There have been plenty of times where they have apparently

1194
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.159
<v Speaker 2>mind spoken with eyewitnesses, but yeah, that's definitely the exception

1195
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and not the norm, not the rule when it happens.

1196
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:51.319
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't surprise me that it didn't do that

1197
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 2>with you on any of those occasions.

1198
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 1>This next I did.

1199
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I was scare to listen, but well, yeah, you understandably.

1200
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:03.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is the last question of the night. It's

1201
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.439
<v Speaker 2>from Saint Euphemia and they want to know did you

1202
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:09.680
<v Speaker 2>ever see any They want to know if you saw

1203
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 2>it run on all fours, didn't move like any kind

1204
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:13.600
<v Speaker 2>of animal.

1205
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it was gliding it literally, And this is the

1206
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:25.159
<v Speaker 1>one recently. I'm telling you, God's gotta be It's nearly

1207
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.319
<v Speaker 1>a half a mile. I can see it. It seemed

1208
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like it took a few steps on all fours and

1209
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 1>just almost skated across the ground in the field. It

1210
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was Yes, I did see that, and it was there

1211
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 1>stretched out, very stretched out. But it was a lot

1212
01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of strength. I'll say that.

1213
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they do it, but sasquatch do

1214
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 2>that as well, so it's not like that's unprecedented. Well, Jared,

1215
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't thank you enough for coming on sharing the

1216
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.399
<v Speaker 2>details of these experiences with this. Of course, I really

1217
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:05.800
<v Speaker 2>hate the fact that you had to experience these things,

1218
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.439
<v Speaker 2>but you didn't ask for them. But all you can

1219
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 2>do is just try to deal with them is as

1220
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 2>healthy of a way as you can. And please remember too,

1221
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 2>if you start having trouble, I'm not going anywhere. All

1222
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I have to do is just let me know and

1223
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 2>we'll just schedule another conversation. I'll find out what's sailing

1224
01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you and we'll take it from there.

1225
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Vick. Do you mind if I say one

1226
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.760
<v Speaker 1>thing about my experience last six years with you? Oh?

1227
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 2>No, by all means, if you like to say anything, I.

1228
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Just I sat back, got a little ridicule when I

1229
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.159
<v Speaker 1>told local. You know, we talked about the beginning family friends.

1230
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 1>But I've been listening to you a long time. Anyone

1231
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:53.239
<v Speaker 1>listening who's doing like what I did for six years,

1232
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 1>five six years, just getting it out in the comfortable community.

1233
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 1>It just it helps tremendously. It just does. And I'm

1234
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>so grateful that you're here. Have you been helpful before,

1235
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:09.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's even more so now talking to you and

1236
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:12.239
<v Speaker 1>just just and it's kind of putting the burden down

1237
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And I'm just really grateful for you.

1238
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And I just highly encourage anyone to just got to

1239
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 1>say the community, talk about it. You know, it helps, It.

1240
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Does, It definitely does. And hearing you say that, that's

1241
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:27.399
<v Speaker 2>why I do all this. I put in all the

1242
01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.520
<v Speaker 2>hours and all the work. I just feel so lucky

1243
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to be in a position to be able to try

1244
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and help. And of course the listeners, the people who

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<v Speaker 2>out there listening to the show, who offer all this

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<v Speaker 2>support for you and other eyewitnesses, I know they feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. Otherwise they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>help the way they do. But yeah, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>please remember if you ever need help in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>please let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Having said that, yeah, thanks again so much for coming

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<v Speaker 2>on and sharing the details of those experiences and have

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<v Speaker 2>a great Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you all right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one in the books. Like I've told you before,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks again so much for listening and for supporting all

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<v Speaker 2>the eyewitnesses. Touching on what Jared just said, if you've

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<v Speaker 2>had a Dogman encounter that you'd like to speak with

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<v Speaker 2>me about, whether in private or on the show, please

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<v Speaker 2>go to dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you do that then of course, if you totally complete

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<v Speaker 2>the report, that is, want to put that out there,

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<v Speaker 2>that qualification, then I will contact you and schedule a

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<v Speaker 2>phone conversation with you before we get out of here. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>please remember Monday night, nine pm Eastern Time, going to

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<v Speaker 2>have that special bonus episode where Kim's gonna come on

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<v Speaker 2>and tell us about this most recent encounter she's had

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<v Speaker 2>with Imber And of course, like I said earlier, she's

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<v Speaker 2>got this announcement. She wants to let you know about

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<v Speaker 2>a special twist to this lighting that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>blow you away. It sure blew me away, couldn't believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>but thanks again so much for listening everyone, and not

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<v Speaker 2>only have a great night, but I hope you have

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend. We'll catch you then on Monday,