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Speaker 1: At a book.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, thanks so much for listening to tonight's live

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stream episode of dog Me in the Counters Radio. I

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really appreciate it. Before we bring on tonight's guest, I

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want to give you some updates. Number one, I'm beyond

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happy to say to announce that Joe moved into her

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new home at the start of this month. There were

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some hang ups with the other property that she wanted

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to move into, but that's okay. The house that she

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moved into at the start of September here is actually

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a better option for her, So she's beyond elated about that,

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and both of us we can't thank you enough for

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all the support and help that you gave her that

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made this move possible. We're also glad for her and

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not having to deal with that horrible house with all

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that black mold in it. And I've been in talks

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with her about coming back on so she can personally

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update you on how she's doing. And I know she

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wants to thank all of you at least one more

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time for all the help you've given her, not just

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the financially, but all the support. She was really having

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a hard time with the experiences that she had and

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of course she can't thank you enough. Moving on to

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the second update, as I'm sure a lot of you

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are going to remember, I had planned to bring Kim

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on for a special live stream last Tuesday, but unfortunately,

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poor Kim, she got sick and lost her voice. So

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luckily she's better now. She sent me a message, I

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think it was yesterday, telling me that she's almost back

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to normal. So I coordinated with her to air a

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special live stream with her this Monday night at nine

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pm Eastern time, so she can come on and tell

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you about this latest encounter that she's had with Imber,

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and on that show, she's got something that's going to

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blow you away to announce something she noticed when she

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had this most recent sighting with Ember. Of course, Imber

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is the name that she gave that female, the dog

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woman that she's seen a couple of times. But yeah,

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that's the show you're not going to want to miss,

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all right. Having said that, moving on to tonight show,

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some people have had dog me and encounters under unfortunate circumstances,

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I guess you could say, But just imagine for a

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second what it would be like to be trying to

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deal with being in the middle of a hurricane with

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all the wins and all the stuff that comes along

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with that. Well, not only that, but being in a

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cemetery to boot between maybe midnight ish and one am

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in the morning, Well that's going to be traumatic for

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pretty much anyone. But adding to that, imagine for a

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second what it would be like to think at first

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that you're removing yourself from the situation, just to find

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out that that dog me in is actually coming for you.

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Just horrible nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Fuel.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I'm getting at is, of course I've got

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tonight's guest on ready to bring in here to talk

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about that experience. But yeah, just imagine for a second

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what that must have been like. All right, without any

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further ado, let's bring him in here now before I do,

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so that you know he wanted to remain anonymous. With

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that in mind, we've decided to just refer to him

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as Jared Tonight. Jared, thanks so much for coming on

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the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Vig, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome, Glad to bring you on. Jared, please

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give us a brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's see, I'm a father of two girls and

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I have a bunch of animals and rescue animals, cats

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and dogs, and lived in all over the East Coast,

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but then in the southeast North Carolina for the last

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twenties plus years. And and let's see, I work in

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work in sales, and I always been an outdoorsman, love

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to fish. I don't do as much honey as I

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used to do, but I used to do a lot more.

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But but still big fishermen. And just it's kind it's

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kind of scoop on me. This is not hopefully that's sufficient.

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Speaker 2: Well it is. It definitely sounds to me like you

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stay busy, very busy. Yes, yeah, I'm sure you do

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stay busy. You mentioned the rescue work that you do.

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a different place.

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Speaker 1: I have been a foster. I have been a foster

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many times. Currently I don't have any, but yeah, I

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often I help find foster place foster homes for animals,

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mainly dogs and cats. Sometimes there's others. But but but

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I opened my doors up as well quite often, and

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you know, just had about every every kind of especially

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dog you can imagine. So wow, that's they don't have

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much choice, so we try and help them, you know, well.

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Speaker 2: That's awfully admirable. Yeah, I'm really glad that you do that.

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You're a good man, You definitely are. I'm wondering, Jared,

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how much of a burden have your dog mean encounters

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put on your day to day life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to quantify, you know. It's uh,

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there's a whole level roller coaster of emotions and responses

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that go with that. But I think over the years

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since my first encounter, it's I've recognized more that it's

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been a lot more significant, more a larger burden than

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I originally recognized or allowed myself to recognize, if that

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makes sense. I still go out thought in the woods.

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I still do those things, but I'm hypervisu vigilant now,

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and because of from your intro, it's kind of eerie

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time when you're the middle of a storm, whenever I'm

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very vigilant of whenever weather or pressure changes happen. It

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just kind of I've kind of related that to this stuff.

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So I'm I'm always kind of on edge when when

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things change, such as weather, if that makes sense, or

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or any thing just just like if it gets quiet,

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you know, so much more vigilant than it used to

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be so I think that takes a lot of time

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and energy. So how to quantify that, I don't know,

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but it's it's it's a big significant change though.

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Speaker 2: Well I can understand why, and yeah, once bitten twice

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shy from now on. Unfortunately, from now on, anytime there's

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bad weather out it's blowing and raining. I can't see

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how you can't go back to that night in the

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cemetery and relive what, unfortunately happened.

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Speaker 1: It was like the perfect storm, right. The cemetery just

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happened to be the place that I could park because

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we couldn't get through the road. So it just uh

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not been in that cemetery on a hundred times, but it

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was never a big deal. But it happened to be

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there when I had my first agoun or.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it happens that way sometimes. Unfortunately, you told

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me in our first conversation that your encounters have changed

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Speaker 1: So primarily, yeah, the it's hard to acknowledge that actually

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these there are when you see these things, that it

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actually is true. You can hear a bad listen to it. Well,

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when it happens to you, it does change. It flips

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your world upside down. Because everything you've been like in

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my my MySpace, it was that everything that I've known

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is not true? And and who do you talk to

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about that? Which is so grateful for you got you,

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but it's it's really just, uh, it kind of it

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isolates you. It isolated me knowing something that that many

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people do but many many don't. It is, uh, it's isolating.

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as I'm still willing to push it and go and

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go out, and you know, I'm not a homebody. But

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more so, it's kind of flipped the script on the

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world as I've seen it until that time, if that

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makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, ever since you learned how to speak, it's

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been hammered into your headtime after time that monsters don't exist.

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Well guess what. In September of twenty eighteen, in a

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cemetery during a hurricane, you found out that's bunk, that

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they do exist. So yeah, that kind of a revelation

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it is going to turn everything on its ear. It's

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totally understandable. You talked about the isolation you tend to

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feel now after having such an experience, And this next

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question touches on that you've been blackballed unfortunately by friends

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and family. To what extent and how hard has that

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been on you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought I was being pretty cautious sharing this

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because understandably most people don't have these experiences.

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Speaker 1: And I say most by just meaning them by the numbers.

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And I selectively chose at certain times to try and

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share with certain people, and and and I there are

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select people that are certain people that have never looked

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at me the same like something's wrong with me. Yeah.

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I tried to play it off like it was not like,

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oh yeah, I was just messing around or you know,

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whatever it was. But but it is. It is affected

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my family relationships, It is affected a few. I have

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a couple of friends that are very supportive, but I

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out of the handful I've told, but I've lost half

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of them, oh yeah, so and not not no, not

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soily not necessarily lost it that day, but it was like, hmmm,

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something wrong with that guy? Uh, because they can't imagine it.

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So it's uh, you know, it's I'm fine, I'm getting

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through it and getting bye. You know, but it did.

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It changed relationships, it did.

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Speaker 2: What a shame. They're supposed to be family, They're supposed

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to be friends when you need the most most in

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the situation like this, what we're talking about, they abandoned

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you on that. That is absolutely horrible. Shame on them

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for doing that.

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Speaker 1: I tend to I try to think about though, if

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I did not have an experience and someone came to

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me like that, and I tend to think, and I

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hope I would be very supportive, but I think I

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would be. But you never know too, you're there. So, yeah,

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it's the way human nature.

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Speaker 2: I guess that is a good point. If I had

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account how many eyewitnesses I've spoken with over the years

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who if it wasn't them who had the encounters, if

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it was a family member or a friend of theirs

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who did, tons of them would have taken the same stance,

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and yeah, made fun of them, probably tried to alienate them.

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So yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Or get concerned, is that guy? Okay? You know, but anyway,

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we all hope we do the right thing. But this

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is kind of an extreme situation, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Yes, it is, yeah, very extreme, Jared, If that

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dog man wouldn't have come after you that night. How

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much easier do you think that experience would have been

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Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of. That was terrifying. Absolutely, there's the

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thing that really got me because I didn't know what

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a dog man was before this. That never you know,

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it didn't even consider that. The thing that really scared

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me before getting chased was that I had a sense

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of dread. When I do you mind if I share

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the story a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's wait to go into details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be the fear of that. The fear

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of that was was there's a lot of fear before that,

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and then when I was chased, I kind of like

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I remember it, but I was kind of blacked out.

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had that not happened, I don't know, but it was

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pretty damn scary. I'm sorry, Pretty pretty scary regardless.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it was scary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That just doesn't do what happened any justice. It doesn't

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I want to know. Definitely, Yeah, we do need a

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new word to do it. Any justice. Before I ask

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you to tell us about your encounter. There are two

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things I wanted to address. Number One, we've got two donations,

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one from Lily Lewis Lily Lewis and one from Tiffany Harding.

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Both of you, thank you so much for supporting the show.

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I really appreciate it. Appreciate that. And also too, I

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wanted to address the fact that there was an eyewitness

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who two weeks ago I'd scheduled a show with to

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come on and he was going to talk about an

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encounter he had that he describes as torturing him to

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present day. Well, unfortunately, about two days ago, his mother

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let me know that he's currently in the ICU in

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a medically induced coma and he's not doing well right now.

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That just gutted me. It just gutted me. That's not

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dogged me and related why he's in the hospital right now.

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But yeah, definitely prayers go out to him. I don't

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want to reveal a name, but prayers definitely go out

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to him. And of course we hope he pulls through that.

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That is not a good situation at all, and we'll

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be praying for him a right. Having said that, Jared,

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please tell us all about your encounters. Now, give us

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every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this was you know what six years ago or so, Yeah,

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on the coast, and there was a pretty large storm

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that came through. So fortunately it was this is a

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hurricane and it fortunately it lessen than strength right before

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it got to us. But usually they passed through in

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a day or so. But unfortunately the prevailing winds or

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whatever whatever the weather pattern was, it just stayed on

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top of us. But uh, level one, what two than

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a one and a tropical storm for five or six

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days and it was just you really l in a

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in a very windy thunderstorm with periods of trench and

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rainfall for five days. And and it did hit. It

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was enough power we couldn't really get around. There wasn't

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gas available. On occasion we could get to one gas station,

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but and we had to cut our way out of

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the just normal hurricane stuff, cut our way out of

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the neighborhood. But we so we had limited limited Uh

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we didn't have power on the grid, We had limited

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transfer ways to get through. I mean a lot of

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a lot of roads were impassable. So I was I

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happened to live near my family in the same neighborhood

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about a mile or so away, and they had a

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better generator system than I did, but I still had

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mine at my house. But I had a young child

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at the time, very young, and so I was going

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back and forth between the houses but I couldn't quite

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get there. So I was parking my car and checking

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on generators, filling them with gas, well not to keep

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the lights on and you know food and you know,

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refrigerate running. But checking about three times a day, so

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all that background. I went at about day three, three

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or four into the storm. It was three, but went

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back and I and I had to park about a

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quarter mile from my house I was staying in. And

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now I've done this every day multiple times as dead

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for a while. But I went out to check one

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more time at night and I went got did everything

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at my house, came back and this it is flown,

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This fis windy, is kind of eerie. But I'll go

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drive around parking this as close as I can possibly

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get to walk to this other house where I'm staying.

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So I, oh, look there, like I have done multiple

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days in a rouw. I got out of my suv

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at the time and I had a bunch of stuff

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with bags that I was gonna get out of the

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back of the mind by suv. But I got out,

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closed the door, and before I got to the back

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back of this four hun Er two to open the gate,

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I had I just say, just something hit me, like

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a ton of bricks, this impending sense of dread, doom,

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no idea, why not? The storm's three days old. I'm

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not scared of the storm at all. Now I'm in

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the cemetery all time, and that's not it. But it

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just just I was terrified try to open the back.

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I opened the back gate of the truck and then

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but see, I was trying to ignore it and get

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my stuff together, but it was overwhelming enough that and

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foreign to me that I ended up closing the gate,

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running to the closest door, which is now the passenger

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door of my my four runner, and jumping in and

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locking the door. And I didn't even know why. It

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was very very very uneasy feeling, so sitting there for

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a while, thinking them crazy, I'm insane. No, but I

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didn't see anything. I'm scanning around, but I don't see anything.

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But but I eventually mustered up about fifteen ten fifty minutes.

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I was like, all right, let's just get your stuff,

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you know, walk about four hundred yards and you're you're good.

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So I did. I got my bags out of the

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back and loaded myself up. Still feel the same way

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when I'm feel a little better because I'm just gonna

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push through it. And then I got back around about

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halfway up the car, and let's see, I was the

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direction I was not going was downhill a little bit

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there was. It was kind of a slow rolling hill.

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As I'm walking around in the car, I see I

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catch some really really strong eyeshine, know, very amber. I mean,

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it was just piercing downhill. So it's kind of hard,

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and you know, it's very dark out and on occasion

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the clouds are apart and you know, your little moonshine

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come through. So I see a little bit here and there.

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But but but it was very dark and couldn't tell

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how well. I couldn't really tell how far down it was,

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but it was within It was no more than thirty yards,

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no more probably twenty five. And I'm like, that's pretty terrifying.

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I'm gonna keep walking. And then it moved a little

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bit and I realized that the separated. His eyes were

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really big. It was there was it didn't make sense.

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We a lot of codies in the They really a

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box and they really there there there. It was too

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big for that. It didn't make any sense. It was

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really low to the ground too, uh so, very confused,

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kind of getting terrified. And then then the clouds parted

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a little bit and I saw some shine and I

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could see that it had the hunch as I'll call it,

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the back of a dog's legs. I could see clearly.

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That's the first thing I saw. And it was way

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far much farther back than where the eyes were, and

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this thing was kind of laying down a little bit,

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and it was very far bigger than I thought it was.

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And around the same time, it raised up a couple

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of feet in the back likes didn't do and it

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deal with coyote, but this was not coyote. So I

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it was terrifying and I were raised up. I thought

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it was gonna come to me, and I just ran

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had about one hundred yards backpack and carrying the stroud.

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I mean, I got a bunch of stuff. I'm just

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trying to get their stuffs. I can. I dropped a

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few things, but I got and twenty five yards or

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so that I was on the grass and it's I

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remember thinking, please don't follow me. And then within about

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a second or two, I heard the football and it

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sounded like it sounded like, you know, like it wasn't

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a it wasn't walking, it was you know, back legs,

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front legs. It was I just sorry, I forget it

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comes back, you know, but it was. I even had

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a I even in my car. I had you know,

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some protection if you will, and I had that with me,

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and I didn't even think about that. I just wanted

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to get to the door, just run and I did.

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And I don't recall when I got to the pavement hearing.

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I never heard I'm not sure if I remember or

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not when I heard the footfall behind me and it

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was really close, but I never heard it. It's the pavement.

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I remember thinking about if I hear that, and I'm

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in real big trouble. But I also it was such

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a blur. I'm not sure if it followed me father

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than that, I don't think it following past the grass,

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but it was I played sports, I'm a little It

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was kind of fast, but I probably ran. I probably

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record time forty or whatever, you know. That day, it

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was just I didn't think i'd get out of there.

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I really didn't. I had my family over there at

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the house. It's a young child and I I I remember,

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I couldn't even really explain what happened to my wife

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and I, but I was I just wanted to patrol.

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I was head on a swivel off the back gate

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with you know, trying to make sure it doesn't come

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into the house. It was no sleep that night, but

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I made it. I made the door. So that was

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h At the time, I didn't really know what it what.

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I some research and the amber eyes and then the

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hind legs, I know, and then and then I had

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a set of teeth on too. The moon hit. But

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uh it uh when you're not even familiar with this stuff,

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and it was really hard to explain, and it really

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hard to wrap my head around. But anyway, Uh sorry,

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I'm digressing. It just it's pretty terrifying and uh, never

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see anything that big.

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Speaker 2: No, please don't apologize, no need to apologize at all.

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Just take your time.

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Speaker 1: Well that that was I mean, that was the main encounter.

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But just for the reference that I wasn't. I didn't know.

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I didn't know about dog Man, and now I do

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because I look, I mean endless google searches, you know,

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for for what's what this was. And then I actually

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found you guys, and I saw that's exactly myself.

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Speaker 4: So uh it was it was I didn't, you know,

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really dark brown or black, but uh man, the things

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that amber eyes, that was that was the really piercing part.

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Speaker 1: Uh Let's see, it wasn't great at all either. I

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think it was really dark brown, might be black, but

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just big, just long and stretched out. I was laying

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down on the stomach and it started raised up. So

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anyway from there, I was terrified all night and I

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tried to you know, what are you tell your people around?

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It happened that it was very you know, I wasn't

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sure what to do. But uh yeah, unfortunately, next day

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or two that's still un cleared up and I could

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we could get through and didn't have to park there anymore.

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But but I actually didn't get back to the house

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and let my generators run out until the road opened

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to us about a day and a half later. Uh

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so it's pretty scary. Let's see. Then my wife she

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I told her about it. She she didn't know what's

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wrong with me or what what are you freaking out about?

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But then but when I eventually calmed down and told

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her about it, she was suborn. She was, but and

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ironically enough about within team months, I want to say,

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I can't recall. Three to three to six weeks later,

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she was driving past that area and kind of stopped

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in her tracks, uh, at her head lights shining on it.

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Right across the street from where I was, there's a

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h it's probably five probably five feet tall in the

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top brown of white fence. And she after retelling her

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about the eyes, I think she caught some of her

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headlines and she actually saw a dog man crouching down

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behind the fence, crouching with his eyes just over the

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top run which maybe it's four feet or five, but

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it was crouching, so I don't know. He founded at

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home for a little while, but I don't live there anymore.

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But she saw him too, kind of shook her up

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a lot as well. Since we've met, we've met not

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long after that, frankly, but uh, that was the that

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was my hurricane experience.

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Speaker 2: When you're ready, please continue with the next one.

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Speaker 1: Sure, so that was, like I said, six years ago

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or so, and I and I just do want to say,

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I mean, I, you know, did some homework, found you guys,

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and it's just it's it's been very helpful. But you know,

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I deal with this, you know, you deal with this,

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you know, the family, the friends, and tell a few

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people as soon as you know. I know we redundant.

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But a couple were supportive, a couple weren't. And I

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just kind of claimed up about it for a while.

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So kind of get through it, you know, working through

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it and living life. But I moved again since the

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move after that house farther out in the country and

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love it's great, and uh very recently actually, and all

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of a sudden about two two weeks ago, less two

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weeks ago, I had another encounter. There's I have two

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places up there, and I have a fence behind my

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one of my backyard, pretty good sized yard, and nothing's

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behind us. It's just a field and then a bunch

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of trees. It's a very country and uh, let's see,

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there's my dogs are going crazy, one in particular was

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going crazy and I went out and there's a heavy

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heavy footfall. There are black bears around here. But and

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I caught the eyes of this thing and it kind

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of kind of peeked around the corner and I caught

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some eyes and just just took me right back to

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where I wasn't cemetery that day. And I was like,

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I know what that is? Uh, And it took off

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I one hundred miles an hour is probably, I mean

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it was so fast, it was amazing, and it shot

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down as a straight shot in this field I can

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see almost a mile and it was gone, just gone

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in like in no time. It was you know, it

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was crazy. It was really heavy and then just so swift.

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I mean it felt like took like four steps and

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it was completely out of you. It was really, I

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know it was more than that, but it was pretty

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how do I say, impresses and terrifying at the same time.

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But and then frankly, I have other properly have some

476
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chickens on right down the street from here, and that

477
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,599
one we had. Now we get little little problems with

478
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:31,319
other old predators coming looking at going after chicken. So

479
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:33,319
I was check on them and went out the other

480
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,680
night and uh, saying I heard the same thing and

481
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,200
it was just heavy, heavy football and I didn't see

482
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,759
at this time, but it was so heavy, there's nothing

483
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,920
it could be. And it took off so fast because

484
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,559
I could hear it. It was in the kind of

485
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,640
a ditch. It was very grown up, probably ten twenty

486
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,039
feet and you could see the brush moving. But it

487
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,039
was so fast. It's almost a good skip, like twenty

488
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,319
yards and then the maybe thirty yards. Then see it

489
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,480
move again, just gone. It's like what, I can't describe

490
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,640
how fastest thing is. That all happened about two weeks ago,

491
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960
within you know, nothing for a little bit, and then uh,

492
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,440
last night shut up again at the house where uh,

493
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,039
you know, two separate properties with they're very close. Uh,

494
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:26,359
same thing, got some eyeshine. It stuck around a little bit.

495
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,039
I didn't stick around though. I brought dogs in and

496
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,640
I said, I'm just gonna go hold up because I

497
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,440
don't didn't want to deal with that again. But but

498
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:48,720
so the same relative area, but six five six years apart,

499
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,960
this this one's dig this one digger. I its just

500
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:58,119
it's just it's pretty. You can feel the ground whenever

501
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,119
when it when it starts takes off, it's pretty. It's

502
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:05,960
pretty wild. So so it kind of resurfaced after I

503
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,960
was kind of getting through it everything and uh, but

504
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,759
it kind of kind of all came kind of flying

505
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:16,480
back in the past couple of weeks. So those are

506
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:21,000
those are my encounters. If I change it has changed

507
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,359
my life.

508
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,799
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they have. If I heard you correctly,

509
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,119
you said this most recent dog mean that you had

510
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920
an encounter with, was probably bigger than the one that

511
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,319
you have you encounter with in the cemetery. Did I

512
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:34,680
hear you right when you said that.

513
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,039
Speaker 1: The reason I say that is because I could feel

514
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,119
it on the ground when it when it took off,

515
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,160
and I don't recall that was the first one. Other

516
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,880
one was really big, but this one I couldn't get

517
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,200
a full scope of his eyes. But the first three

518
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,440
or four steps twice is this good doing? Like I

519
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,400
could feel it under your feet. I'm standing in the

520
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680
yard and it was pretty It's heavy. It was really heavy.

521
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,480
So I'm speculating a little bit, but it was. It's

522
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:05,279
enough to make it go inside and locked the door.

523
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be if you had to guess how

524
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,440
much do you think it weighed?

525
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,119
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean we have black bear around here

526
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:22,880
is hair and that got me. It's completely shooting in

527
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,199
the dark three four hunred pounds. I mean it was

528
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:34,280
it's probably light from I don't know, but I mean, yeah,

529
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920
I'm sorry. That's a that's a rough, really rough estimate.

530
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,039
But it was big enough that I could feel it.

531
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you could feel it through the ground,

532
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,599
that's pretty big. That's definitely big enough.

533
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: And it's about maybe point. It was a little close,

534
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,199
a little twenty yards away, so it was it wasn't

535
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239
right on top of it, but it was. It was

536
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,400
still that far away. It's pretty big.

537
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be pretty bad. When the dog man

538
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,280
and the cemetery rose up, did you hear any strange sounds?

539
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I did not, and and I want

540
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,400
to clarify, whenever I saw it rise up, what I

541
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,320
what I think happened was is now that it was

542
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,760
down low and it raised up almost on his arms,

543
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,239
if you will, because it went up about two feet,

544
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,639
and that's when the moon the clouds cleared, and I

545
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:30,840
saw that the moon came through and I could see

546
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,519
the legs still laid out behind it. So it didn't

547
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,360
make any sounds. I think I know what you're talking about,

548
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,760
But no, I didn't. I didn't catch any sounds. But again,

549
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,280
the winds howling through, so I don't recall that.

550
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, with winds blowing fifty sixty maybe even seventy miles

551
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,960
an hour, then yeah, it's gonna be yeah that time. Yep,

552
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:53,920
that's going to make it awfully hard to hear anything

553
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,360
that it did. Definitely, after having that first encounter, you

554
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,920
said that you started to feel kind of marked by it.

555
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,440
Please expand on that for.

556
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Us, Well, I think I think it goes to the

557
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:15,079
point and this is my thinking it through. Yeah, your hypervision.

558
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:21,880
I became hypervision hyper aware, and obviously you know it's

559
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:28,000
a threat. You know you're the more aware, but and

560
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:33,679
you just certain situations where I might walk down the

561
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,199
path in the woods or wherever it may be. In

562
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,119
the past, you might get a little creepy feeling. I

563
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,320
just said to ignore it, and now I don't. I

564
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,920
don't do that anymore, and I feel like that's a hypervigilance.

565
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,480
And then also I I've had enough for those that

566
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,960
felt a little creepy that I just kind of walked away,

567
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:59,239
got away from the area. So without seeing them until recently,

568
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,599
I I always suspected maybe there's a document out here,

569
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,280
but but now it's kind of and I mean forty

570
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,719
five minutes away, you know, and there's another one. You know,

571
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
It's like it does you kind of feel like once,

572
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:17,119
it's almost like once. I don't know how. This is

573
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,480
just my thoughts. I don't know how. It's probably no

574
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,719
validity to it, but it's almost like, yep, I know

575
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,920
you're there. Now my visit you again, and it did?

576
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,840
You know. It's just kind of it does feel kind

577
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,599
of like a kind of feels like there's kind of

578
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,440
it's the fear factor, you know, and the I don't know,

579
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,920
a reminder we're here. It's kind of what it feels like.

580
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,559
Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but it

581
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,519
just it's kind of seems like, why why have most

582
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,800
of the population not seen this? And now I got

583
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,159
to see it four times? You know? So yeah, kind

584
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,079
of feel marked. That makes sense.

585
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: That does make sense, And it's totally natural that you

586
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,000
would wonder that.

587
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Why me.

588
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: I wish there was a good answer I could give

589
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,000
you for that, but I can't, unfortunately, But understand when

590
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,639
you listen to so many eyewitnesses come on and talk

591
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,920
about having follow up encounters with these guys, it's only

592
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:18,559
natural to wonder to think that, Okay, if I have

593
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,360
an encounter with a dog man, it's pretty much a

594
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,119
given that more to come, more to follow. But is

595
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,400
hard as it might be to believe, it really is

596
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,880
the exception and not the rule that an eyewitness who

597
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,760
has one encounter has a follow up encounter, because normally

598
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,760
you just have one. Of all the people I've spoken

599
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,679
with about their encounters, it's it might seem common for

600
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,079
there to be a follow up encounter, but that's definitely

601
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,280
the exception, not the rule. I just wanted to make

602
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,280
sure you understood that.

603
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, because one of those things where you you

604
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,079
remember that those that did have a follow up and no,

605
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,000
it's not, but you know, without doing the math on it,

606
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:08,760
Yeah that's oh, so I'm extra special. Now I'm ben teasing,

607
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:14,800
but that's uh, it's yeah, well yeah, so so thank

608
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,400
you for that. I mean, it says it's good to

609
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,679
not feel marked if you will, but it's they get

610
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:21,920
in your head, you know, it's just it just doesn't

611
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,960
and I know you are folks with encounters, are just

612
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:30,559
that it can really mess with your head. It really can, Yes,

613
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:30,960
it can.

614
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, life can be difficult as it is without these

615
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,679
kind of problems. But when you stack these words of

616
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,559
problems on top of the problems that you deal with

617
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,159
on a day to day basis in life, Yeah, it's

618
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,039
just too much. And it definitely isn't fair. It's not

619
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:53,079
fair at all. When the dog man moved, Jared, was

620
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,280
it jerky in its movements or was it smooth?

621
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:01,559
Speaker 1: It was very fast when it when it raised up

622
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:10,920
extremely fast, one swift motion. It was That's the best

623
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,559
I can say. It was. It was fast, raised about

624
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:18,440
two my best guess two feet, and and it was

625
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:21,639
it was just it was really fast. It was almost

626
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,239
like a like a glitch on the screen, but it

627
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,599
moved really fast, so I couldn't After that I turned

628
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,880
and ran. I didn't see it running, I just heard it. Uh.

629
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,960
The other one on the movement was just so it's

630
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,320
so fast. It was you know, it got out of

631
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,639
the bushes and the recent last night. Uh. And then

632
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,760
then it wasn't I want to say jerky. It was

633
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,199
it was almost like, how is it possible we got

634
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,800
there that fast by taking four steps? But my best

635
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,159
way to describe it, it was kind of a commotion at first,

636
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:03,840
and then it was just like gliding on this. Yeah,

637
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,079
so I did. Jerky is not the work to answer that,

638
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,840
to try and circle back and answer your question, jerky

639
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,079
is not what I saw.

640
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: That might seem like a strange question, but the reason

641
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,960
I asked it is, Yeah, there are quite a few

642
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,119
eyewitnesses who reported seeing the dog me in that they

643
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,039
encountered kind of jerking and twitching like a crack addict,

644
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,960
almost just almost uncomfortable in its own skin and just

645
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,840
couldn't really even hold still. So that's why I was

646
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,840
asking you that question for that reason. A few years

647
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,599
before you had that first experience, Jared, you had some

648
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,880
pure normal experiences. What can you tell us about them?

649
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I was in I had a go of

650
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,239
it lately. But there was a house that I part of.

651
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:56,599
I did a little bit of renovations things like that

652
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,480
and flips, but first the house and was working on

653
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:06,880
and and just had a every feeling wonder in particular,

654
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:12,719
nice big brick house. But they thought I was really

655
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,400
scared of it too. And she was young at the time,

656
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:20,000
you know, in the early elementary school. But but she

657
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,920
she she was a little nervous about some things and

658
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,440
was always pay attention to that and then I had

659
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,119
a had a lot of sounds, a lot of a

660
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:30,519
lot of just just just things didn't make sense. You know,

661
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440
you let go of one or two of those. But

662
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,280
then then when you hear start hearing stuff pretty loud,

663
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,480
slamming doors things like that, then you know, you know,

664
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,440
go check it out. And I had a lot of

665
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,039
I guess I see stuff, a lot of a lot

666
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:50,039
of sounds and noises, but I saw one point saw

667
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,519
something pretty good, uh big black miss if you will.

668
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,800
And then and I didn't really share that too much

669
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,039
with anyone else, especially my dog, and was scared. But

670
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,119
then we had experience. I didn't really snow here much,

671
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,599
but it did and our h this is probably the

672
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,920
next within a few months next when winter came around.

673
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,519
But that's a really weird experience where we're all looking

674
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,079
out the win it's the snow day kids of all

675
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,440
school and this and that, and we don't have any

676
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,880
of those. But it was pretty exciting. And we lived

677
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,559
on the like the waln the hill near the coast,

678
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,840
so all the kids were coming through the backyard to

679
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,760
go sledding. So we're doing that. And then my youngest

680
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,000
daughter and I, well she's the oldest art now. But

681
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,119
we were looking out the wind now and we're like, huh,

682
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,199
these guys are walking around their yard. It is fenced in.

683
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,360
There's a guy all of a sudden, it was literally

684
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,239
like a minute or two since we were looked and

685
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,000
we looked back and this guy standing like fifty feet

686
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:56,519
in our yard looking up at the tree. And we

687
00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:00,840
were just like, what's he doing there? We're liked, we

688
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,599
know him, you know, just looking through that, you know.

689
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:06,079
And and literally I said, stay stay here, look at

690
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,199
that at the window, and I'm gonna go out there

691
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,000
and talked to him. By the time I got to

692
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:14,400
the door, he disappeared. My daughter and everyone else studying

693
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,440
the day, she's terrified. It was really strangely, really strange.

694
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,000
There's no ways, so we'll get to that. So that

695
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:22,559
was that sounds kind of it's just paranormal. Same house.

696
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:27,519
We had a one place on the back jack patio actually,

697
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:32,840
but the uh, every so often you get this like

698
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,559
all this weird perfume. It's it's very strange. There's an

699
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:41,159
old cemitary bar in that house too. I don't choose

700
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:43,679
by cemeteries, but they happened to be one there too.

701
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,400
But I'm not sure if I did do with it,

702
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,800
but there's weird sentence, perfume. And then this ties into

703
00:44:53,320 --> 00:45:00,480
the same daughter. One night, I was still awake working

704
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,760
and she was asleep, and I heard the doors closed

705
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,360
all outside and the doors closed and went to look

706
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,880
for her and couldn't find her anywhere. She was just

707
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:17,920
not there. Big house, you know, four better, four betters bonus.

708
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,239
But but anyway, I couldn't find her, and you know,

709
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,719
parents are crazy, terrified, you know, I just said, what happened?

710
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,920
Where did she go in the front door? Whatever? But

711
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:39,599
so police at this point. And then I said, uh,

712
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:41,599
my wife was looking and couldn't find her, and I

713
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,880
was like, let me look one more time, and I

714
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,880
went back up in her room. She was there, but

715
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,159
she wasn't. She was laying on top of her bit

716
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,280
for her comforter, and she was sitting in a fetal

717
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,840
position and saying the woman with the food box, the

718
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,440
one with the food box. No idea with that, man,

719
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,320
I'm sorry, chills right now, no idea what that meant.

720
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,280
But kind of shook her out of it a little bit,

721
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,239
like where did you go out? She had no recollection

722
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:14,639
of it, zero nothing, and she the other sho was perfume,

723
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,639
she said, the little with food bucks, the Wanean food bucks,

724
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:21,400
the perfume, perfume, and and that probably does not do

725
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,840
with what I've what I've noticed, but but at the

726
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,199
end of the day kind of we did a little

727
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,320
research and found out that there was there's a story

728
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,519
about that from about one hundred and twenty years ago,

729
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:38,159
but but she had no recollection, and it was it

730
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,599
was pretty terrifying. She uh, it was almost like a

731
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,320
I guess a sleep walking verse out of body experience.

732
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,679
But she had no idea where she went. We didn't

733
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,559
know what she wanted it. We probably walked in the

734
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:55,519
other direction where she was, but it was it was

735
00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:02,199
really it was scary. It was really scary. So I

736
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,480
don't know if that's any do with the dog and

737
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,119
stuff either, but it just certainly opens you up to

738
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,360
knowing there's a lot more going on than yeah, the

739
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,599
day to day, if you will.

740
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:19,079
Speaker 2: It does open the up some awfully frightening experiences. And

741
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:21,920
it makes me wonder if you think that those experiences,

742
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,519
at least to a certain degree, might have prepped you

743
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,840
for the dog man encounters.

744
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,119
Speaker 1: Think about that too, you know, I mentioned the hyper

745
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,400
vigilance is by the best of earlier but just that

746
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,400
it's almost like it's opening a door. And I've wondered

747
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,159
that many times. There. Maybe they're not different. I was

748
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:46,039
gonna say they're very different. Maybe they're not. I mean

749
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:50,320
maybe you know what we spoke before I was even

750
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,480
talking about is almost their paranormal feature or harsh portion

751
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,039
of this, which I don't think anybody knows. But it's just, uh,

752
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,360
it certainly seems like I want to a door opens,

753
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,800
then you know, hard to close you will.

754
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it normally is, especially when you open

755
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,440
up a door like that. Yeah, it's not good at all. Well,

756
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,960
let's get to the listener's questions from the live chat.

757
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:24,039
The first one is from Andre's Cisalez and Andres wants

758
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:28,440
to know, did you or anyone in your home get

759
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,760
very sick after any of the encounters.

760
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Trying

761
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,840
to make sure I'm not missing it, and I don't

762
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,000
think so. Uh no, I see. Yeah.

763
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: The reason why I was asking is sometimes that's how

764
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,920
it happens. After having a cryptid around, people can get sick.

765
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:57,280
Don't know if that's infrasound or maybe something else, but

766
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,199
it does happen sometimes.

767
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Next, well, let me rephrase that real quickly. Though I

768
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:07,599
personally have had not evention. It was not immediate, but

769
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:11,159
I've had some strange health problems since around that this

770
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,679
all started. I have don't know it's for later or not,

771
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,360
but they were more delayed, long term stuff I still

772
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,000
deal with that happened around after the time of this,

773
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,960
but it wasn't an immediate illness. As that makes sense.

774
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:27,079
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sometimes it happens that way. It's hard to explain.

775
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,920
Maybe they are connected, like I said, but I guess

776
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,599
we're never going to know. This next question is from

777
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:38,119
Lori Mass and Laurie wants to know if a government

778
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,360
let you know since you were a child that brings.

779
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:47,079
I'm not sure what she means here that brings are real.

780
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:51,320
I guess she's saying that these things are real and

781
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,480
that you only get to see them if they want

782
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:56,559
you to. They are always around. Do you think that

783
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:58,039
you would have been traumatized?

784
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:07,079
Speaker 1: Great question. I don't know. It's one that I wish

785
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,360
they would tell me the hand. Maybe it was better

786
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,960
to be in the dark, but I guess those of

787
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:12,800
us that have the encounter that we're not in the dark.

788
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,559
So I guess my answer is, yeah, I wish I

789
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,000
was told before, but uh, that's uh, that's if that's

790
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:26,000
the case. But yeah, I don't A tough question. I

791
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,639
am personally one that would like to know. I would

792
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,000
rather know good, bad, ugly, and not live in a

793
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,519
box where, you know, might more comfortable, but I would

794
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,199
rather know. So they answered that is I would yes,

795
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:37,840
I would like to know.

796
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: It might seem like a given that anyone would want

797
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,760
to know that these guys are out there and that

798
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,119
would help them deal in a healthier way, but there

799
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,000
are people who will tell you point blank that they

800
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:53,159
would much rather not know, just be oblivious that these

801
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:55,920
things are out there. So you never really know someone's

802
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,559
going to answer that question. You really don't. This next

803
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:03,440
question for you, Jared, is from Lily Lewis, and Lily

804
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,400
wants to know, Jared, do you feel like they want

805
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,199
a relationship. I think she means a relationship with you

806
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,039
because you were the landowner.

807
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say, yeah, I kind of do

808
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,280
with the relationship part. I'm not sure why that is,

809
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,960
but it being the landowner. I don't know. I hadn't

810
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,039
thought about that before. We kind of like the mark

811
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:35,079
of thing, the mark term we used earlier. Yeah, I

812
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,199
do feel like they want a relationship. But as far

813
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,440
as being the landowner or not, I guess the fact

814
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:43,440
is everyone had an encounter. I haven't owned the property,

815
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:50,440
so maybe well, I don't know, but almost like it

816
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,800
was like land maybe that was theirs or I'm not sure.

817
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,599
I'm not sure about that, but I do think they

818
00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:00,360
want a relationship with people. They have encounters, and that's

819
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,679
just that's my opinion.

820
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: Please keep in mind that property owner, that's a human thing.

821
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:12,679
I don't think these guys, I don't think sasquatch animals period.

822
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,440
They just don't recognize ownership. I mean, you're.

823
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,199
Speaker 1: Here, they had it before we did, right, Yeah.

824
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. They see They probably see all the

825
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,639
outdoor areas their property, their territory, and you just happen

826
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,599
to dwell in whenever you come outside. So as far

827
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,719
as being a landowner, I don't think that's a paradigm

828
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,159
that they share. I really don't.

829
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about being on the lane. I

830
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:44,760
guess it's the better way to think that. But anyway, Yeah, yeah,

831
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:47,960
not sure. I'm not sure if they move around a

832
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,599
lot or you know, I'm presume they do because my

833
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,719
first encounter was a place I've lived there for a

834
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,679
few years or this happened, it was not very rural area,

835
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,199
So I don't know that they're yeah, transient or not,

836
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,440
but it's that might have something to do with the

837
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,960
land occupy land park. Well.

838
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: I think, like any of the large predator, these guys

839
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:18,440
are obligate carnivores. But like any have a large predator,

840
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:20,079
I think it's a given they're going to have a

841
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,280
huge home range. If they stay in one area too long,

842
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,840
they're going to deplete the resources in that area almost overnight.

843
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,559
So it's a given they're going to have to move around,

844
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,840
and eventually they'll come back into the same area, but

845
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,559
it's probably going to be a while before they do.

846
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:38,519
In most cases, sometimes they do stay in one spot

847
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:42,880
longer than expected, longer than normal. But yeah, that definitely

848
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,280
does seem to be the exception and not the norm.

849
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:49,840
This next question for you is from Anne Console, and

850
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,880
Ann wants to know did Jerry mention seeing a tail?

851
00:53:56,639 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I did not see a hell I

852
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:08,679
My perspective was I saw not quite head on probably

853
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,880
twenty thirty degrees to the side, so I saw the

854
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,440
side profile and from front, but I could not see

855
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,400
it a tail or not.

856
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had so much going on that you're doing

857
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,000
good to know your own name. You're just trying to

858
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:23,320
get the heck out of there, and talking about you

859
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,559
getting the heck out of there running at top speed.

860
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,119
Have you come to terms with the fact now that

861
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:31,840
you weren't running for your life, that you didn't save

862
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,719
yourself that night, that it was just messing with you

863
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,679
by coming after you.

864
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,599
Speaker 1: Yes, I have now, I say yes I have. Instead

865
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:47,480
of a process and and and everyone else that shares

866
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,199
these things that I listened to, you know religiously, if

867
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,639
you will and your show and speak with you too,

868
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,480
it all helps. It helps you understand that I'm not

869
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:05,000
saying that it's tonight or tomorrow's happen again. I will

870
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,559
not have a sill experience, but it won't haunt me.

871
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,039
It won't it won't hold me down like it did

872
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:12,760
in the past. Yes, is the answer that question.

873
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's really good news. I tell the listeners to

874
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239
help the eyewitnesses so much more than they're ever going

875
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,000
to know or appreciate well, it's definitely appreciated here and

876
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:26,000
by the listeners. Count on that. I'm sorry, it's counted.

877
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,719
It's appreciated by me and the eyewitnesses. I should have

878
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,960
said this. Next question for you, Jared is from Marta

879
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:38,159
Magdalena and Marta wants to know if you see one once,

880
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,440
you're more likely to see them again. Makes you wonder

881
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:44,480
why is it because you are more aware or because

882
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:48,480
they're after you? I guess it's more of a statement

883
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:52,320
more so than anything. If there is a twist of

884
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,920
a question to that, Yeah, that's a question we're never

885
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,480
going to be able to answer. All we can do

886
00:55:56,599 --> 00:56:01,960
is basically guess about that. Next question for you is

887
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,599
from Andre's Carazalees and Andres wants to know did you

888
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:09,440
get any nightmares that felt too real to be dreams?

889
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes I did, and I still have them occasionally.

890
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:16,880
I don't have the same theories to have, but but

891
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:23,039
I yes, I've absolutely had some people called lucid dreams.

892
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,639
I haven't been plagued by them like some people have heard.

893
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,199
But it's and this is this actually relates right back

894
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,519
to the fact of like the wanting relationship with you,

895
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:41,599
because it's it's my dreams have gone from very terrifying

896
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,159
to oh you're here again, if that makes sense. And

897
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,119
it's like, I don't want you to hear, but I'm

898
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:50,639
not as scared anymore. But I have them. I mean

899
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:54,440
I've gone maybe months without one. I don't have them

900
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,719
all the time, but I will have them, and I

901
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,719
had one were very recently a few days ago. But what,

902
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,840
I'm not as terrified anymore. But so and as far

903
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,480
as the fact that doesn't feel like a real dreamy,

904
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:13,519
absolutely it's not. It's it's much easier to be aware

905
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:17,320
of your surroundings in the dreams with these guys the

906
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,880
dogument as opposed to other dreams that I have job

907
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,760
will dream very night, but where you don't, at least

908
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,679
for me, I don't have as much control or awareness

909
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,880
as I do with these dreams. So I think the

910
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,639
answer to that is absolutely yes.

911
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: The part of your brain that handles your ability to

912
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:41,079
reason switches off when you're asleep, So that's why you

913
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:42,960
have dreams and you wake up and you think, what

914
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,400
in the world was that about. I mean, when you're awake,

915
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:47,119
what happened to you in the dream you would just

916
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,840
instantly recognize is just off, it's not right. But when

917
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,559
you're asleep, unless you refine your abilities for being able

918
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:58,239
to lucid dream, that is, you're not going to be

919
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:00,079
able to make sense of things and a lot of

920
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:04,119
cases or control what's going on. But yeah, when you

921
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,519
wake up, that's when you really need to focus on

922
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:10,480
seeing what happened for what it really was, and seeing

923
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:13,800
these guys as accurately as possible for what they're likely

924
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,639
to do and what they're not likely to do. Again,

925
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,599
you can never think for one of these things, and

926
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:20,920
you are going to have deviant ones that are dangerous

927
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,039
and will harm you if they get the opportunity. But

928
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:26,599
like I've said countless times, ones like that are definitely

929
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:31,079
the exception, not the norm, so please keep that in mind.

930
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:35,920
The next question for you is from me. I think

931
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,960
it's me pronounced me me grave Guard or me grab Guard.

932
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Was it the same one that you and your wife saw?

933
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:46,119
I think they're asking about this most recent one that

934
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:48,679
you said you thought might have been bigger.

935
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so, as we're in a it's a

936
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,880
different location, and yes, it seemed the It's just so

937
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,159
hard to say, but I mean it's been what more

938
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:09,840
than a half years and I I think it's different.

939
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,320
But I mean, if it's the same one, it's even

940
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,920
scarier than they do have a relationships with. I don't know,

941
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:20,000
but also in five years, maybe got bigger. You know,

942
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:24,320
I'm not sure what my my my instinct is it's different,

943
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,400
not it's the same one. If that, yeah, that's my

944
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:31,320
I don't have a gut feeling with the same one.

945
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah that could be a good thing, that could be

946
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,800
a bad thing. If it's the same one, then okay,

947
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,960
he's coming back around again. If it's a different one, Okay,

948
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,039
you've had an encounter with more than one dog man,

949
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,480
You've got a new one in the area, so yeah,

950
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:47,320
pick your poison.

951
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,199
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that is that is a little terrifying because you know,

952
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,039
I fact is I did make it to the house

953
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:58,800
that first time, and and I'm okay, so you know

954
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,960
this new the new one. It is a little it's

955
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,760
hopefully he's hopefully the same one, right you said, or

956
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:13,079
I just I don't have a read on that. So yeah,

957
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:13,440
it's not.

958
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: Going to give you the warm and fuzzies to think, Okay,

959
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:18,519
well maybe it is another dog man, But I mean

960
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:21,400
there is a silver lining in this and all this,

961
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:23,760
I mean you've already come to accept the fact that

962
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,079
this dog man, the one you saw in the cemetery,

963
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,199
it could have caught you if it wanted to. That night,

964
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,639
it allowed you to make it into the house. Well,

965
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,360
you saw it that close to your house. That means

966
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,320
that guy, he's probably seen you more times than you'd

967
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,679
ever believe. You'd probably vomit if you had a clue

968
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,679
about half the encounters, half the times that thing's been

969
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,639
around watching you, monitoring you. But it's never harmed you.

970
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,880
It never harmed you any of those times it was

971
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,320
watching you. It didn't harm you that night when it

972
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,559
chased you. The one that you heard walking around that

973
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:58,880
you think might have been bigger than that first one.

974
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,320
It knew you were before you knew it was there.

975
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:03,880
It didn't harm you that night. And just like the

976
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,519
one you saw the first time around, I'm sure that

977
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:09,800
one's been watching you, monitoring you more times than you'd

978
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,679
ever believe. It hasn't harmed you. So, like I told

979
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:16,119
you in that first conversation, as long as you see

980
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,159
your experiences for what they really were, how they actually

981
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:24,679
played out, and consequently what these guys showed you were

982
01:01:24,679 --> 01:01:28,920
their intentions with their actions. As long as you focus

983
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,880
on the truth, in other words, you can definitely deal

984
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,360
with this and make this get to the point where

985
01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:37,639
instead of thinking back on the experiences is oh my god,

986
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:39,760
oh my god, oh my god, you can think back

987
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,639
on these experiences and say, huh wow, that sure was

988
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:45,480
something else. Does that make sense?

989
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: Makes a ton of sense to me, And it did

990
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,320
kind of kee me in on tying a few other

991
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,320
parts of this conversation together that you know, you asked

992
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:04,480
about the paranormal experiences too. I've always questioned whether the

993
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:09,559
dog man has a paranormal aspect, if you will, because

994
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,039
I don't anyone who was just you know, pays any

995
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:16,239
attention to this paranormal stuff that you the feed on

996
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:20,360
energy and fear and if you believe that, I just

997
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,239
know a lot of people say that. So it almost

998
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,239
feels to me like it's like it's that way with

999
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,920
dog men, where obviously it could have got me. Yeah,

1000
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,119
it could, you know, you hear about a lot more

1001
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:34,519
if they wanted to get a lot of people. But

1002
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,960
you know, it's a there's it's it's almost like the salouming.

1003
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:44,360
It's almost like the fear keeps them going. They enjoy it,

1004
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:47,400
you know, you know, I know, like people said, kind

1005
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,920
of get a smile or smart and I actually got

1006
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:52,159
the first one. I had a kind of I don't

1007
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,159
know if he was trying to show his teeth to

1008
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,239
eat me or if he's smiling or not. But I mean,

1009
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,199
you know, it's it's almost it's almost like they it

1010
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:05,679
kind of feels like there's a pleasure about creating fear.

1011
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:12,719
Speaker 2: They do seem to feed off of it. Yeah, Unfortunately,

1012
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,679
this next question for you is from an console and

1013
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:19,639
Ian wants to know. Not to be too nosy, but

1014
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,480
were you ever involved with Ouiji boards or tiro cards

1015
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:24,440
or palm readings?

1016
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: No? Absolutely no, No.

1017
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, that's a common threat. It seems like

1018
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:34,719
whenever I ask an eye witness if they have ever

1019
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,480
played with those, in a lot of cases, in most

1020
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:40,599
cases it seems like they say yes, So I'm glad

1021
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:41,800
you have it.

1022
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: That stuff scares me. I do think, based on the

1023
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,400
house I've told you about in the paranel experiences, that

1024
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,559
I've encountered some things that might have opened the door,

1025
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,480
but I've never intentionally done it. Absolutely not.

1026
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:59,039
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, that's very good. This next question up

1027
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:03,599
is from Shannon Uminaser in Shannon, Hey, Shannon. Her question

1028
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,239
is did he say exactly where his encounters happened? What county?

1029
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:09,800
And of course you don't have to answer that if

1030
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,679
you don't want to, you don't want to.

1031
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:19,599
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Southeast North Carolina is is is what I'm

1032
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,639
comfortable saying.

1033
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,559
Speaker 2: All right, easy enough. The next one for you is

1034
01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:28,920
from Scott B. And he wants to know. I guess

1035
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,159
it's more of a statement nobody would go camping or

1036
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,880
visit the national parks. A lot of money is lost

1037
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,440
by the government my opinion, talking about if they actually

1038
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:41,400
let the cat out of the bag that cryptids are

1039
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,559
out there, especially dog men. Yeah, they don't want that

1040
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:52,119
to happen, that's for sure. The next question, the next

1041
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:55,960
question for you is from Kamala and Kimala wants to

1042
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,920
know what color were their eyes and fur?

1043
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: Completely the amber. I didn't even know the exact color

1044
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,400
until after I looked it up and it was the

1045
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:10,480
most strongest amber I've ever seen. I know some people

1046
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:12,679
say they're red and it's not. They were amber and

1047
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:18,840
they were just they were fiercing amber. The best I

1048
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,840
can say the fur I want to say black, could

1049
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,360
have been dark brown. I didn't see any gray, but

1050
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:31,920
it might have been really dark brown. But I want

1051
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,119
to say dark brown, really dark brown. But it could

1052
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:36,079
have been black too, because that was, you know what,

1053
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,840
letting cloud cover go around the moon, you know, and

1054
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,400
the hurricane time and the one, the one recently is

1055
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,599
definitely black, but the first one, I think it might

1056
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:45,320
have been dark brown.

1057
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, you had so much going on.

1058
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,239
You thought you were trying to save your skin from

1059
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,679
this thing. You thought it was going to try and

1060
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,960
rip you apart. So you're doing really good to pick

1061
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,519
up any details about these guys. I'm impressed.

1062
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's amazing what your mind can do and

1063
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,559
not split second when you're terrified, and how much you remember,

1064
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:09,880
you know what I mean. It's so well, yeah, it's

1065
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,400
like you took I You could do that every day.

1066
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:17,119
Speaker 2: It's like you took a picture. Oh no, you're fine. Yeah,

1067
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:19,360
when you're panicked like that, it's like your mind takes

1068
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,719
a picture, a snapshot of what you see, and it's

1069
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,159
burned into your mind. So yeah, that does make sense.

1070
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,039
This next one for you is from Beverly Jaeger, and

1071
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:32,480
she wants to know how tall it was.

1072
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first one is I'm over six feet and

1073
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:43,519
it was it was seven at least. I could not

1074
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,760
get a read on the one I've seen recently, but

1075
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,480
I do think it's bigger. I don't know nate seven

1076
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:55,920
to eight, but the first one was certainly. My best

1077
01:06:56,039 --> 01:07:00,760
estimate is about seven seven happened. It was stretched out,

1078
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,760
it was laid down, so I couldn't really tell exactly

1079
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,639
it was too big, but it was. It wasn't enormous,

1080
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:09,480
but I mean it was. It was a very big

1081
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:11,679
human size under that, so very big.

1082
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:15,039
Speaker 2: So it wasn't big for a dog man, but it

1083
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:17,159
was still big at the same time. I mean seven

1084
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:22,719
eight feet that's big. Yeah, yeah it is. The next

1085
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:27,960
one up is from Christine Robesek, and her question is

1086
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:30,079
did it feel like it was going to attack you?

1087
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I mean yes. I mean my first count that

1088
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,400
I got and run, I mean I I felt like

1089
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,079
I had an intending doom even before I saw it,

1090
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:47,639
and it was it was terrifying. I I didn't think

1091
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:53,039
I would make it four hundred yards just to presume safety.

1092
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that was a given that you thought it

1093
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,800
was going to attack you. That's what These guys are

1094
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,559
masterful at They know how to push our buttons. I mean,

1095
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,360
that's one of the many unfortunate things about these guys.

1096
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,280
They know how to get a response out of us.

1097
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,280
They really do. So I've got no doubts you thought that,

1098
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,000
and yet every reason to think that too. The next

1099
01:08:16,039 --> 01:08:22,520
one is from Todd Bettina, and Todd wants to know

1100
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,319
what came to mind when you first saw the dog man.

1101
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,039
What did you think it was? Did it look ancient?

1102
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,520
Good question?

1103
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: Again, I was. It just had this massive intending doom

1104
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,439
fear that came over me before I saw it, and

1105
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:45,479
I walking around the car, and then I didn't want

1106
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,680
to even look, but I saw something to look at, uh,

1107
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:57,399
And I I remember thinking first thought was, oh, there's odd. Wow,

1108
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,880
why is that animal out Here's probably coyote out here

1109
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,479
in this storm and it's crazy. But then I noticed

1110
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,880
it's way too dig The odds are too digg. Then

1111
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,560
the moonshine came on it. So once I actually saw

1112
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,359
it was I didn't know it was a dog man.

1113
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,439
I mean, I know now, but I mean it was

1114
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:15,119
I was expecting to see a kyote or a fox

1115
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,119
or you know, possum or something, but it was once

1116
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:23,239
I saw the size of this thing, I was I

1117
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:28,520
was just that isn't supposed to be. It doesn't exist.

1118
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,600
Run That's that's what's going through my mind.

1119
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: So that and tons of other things as well. Yeah, yeah,

1120
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:42,239
countless things and understandably. So the next question for you

1121
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:46,239
is from yappie band Joe, and he wants to know

1122
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,319
or she wants to know, have you ever had the

1123
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,399
feeling or strong desire to go into the woods even

1124
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:52,720
though maybe you didn't want to.

1125
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna speculator here that that is there's

1126
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,880
an intrigue about this with me. Yes, I have an

1127
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:12,640
intrigue about this stuff now, But I also I've never

1128
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,600
felt compelled to walk. Well maybe a little bit, but

1129
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,199
there's not not overwhelming, not overwhelming, But but I am

1130
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:22,239
very intrigued and and I could say I could. I

1131
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:25,079
can feel a pull, but never it's not to the

1132
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:28,399
point where I'd stop what I'm doing to go. You know?

1133
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,279
Does that make sense?

1134
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:31,359
Speaker 2: That does make sense?

1135
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1136
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: The reason why they're asking that is sometimes it seems

1137
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,479
like sasquads use ultrasound to make people do things that

1138
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,600
they normally wouldn't do under their own accord. So I

1139
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,960
think they're wondering if maybe this dog man might have

1140
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:48,760
hit you with ultrasound on an occasion where you found

1141
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,520
yourself doing something that was against your best interest or

1142
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,279
something you normally wouldn't do. I think that's where that

1143
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:56,680
question came from.

1144
01:10:58,319 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: And I will pause and and and and stop. And

1145
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:03,840
there is a draw, there is a pull, but so

1146
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,439
far i've not it's not been overwhelming, but there is

1147
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,279
definitely a poll.

1148
01:11:08,319 --> 01:11:13,520
Speaker 2: So anyway, yep, yeah, sometimes it happens that way. Beverly

1149
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,199
Jaeger is next question. She wants to know, have you

1150
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,520
ever thought of giving it a peace offering.

1151
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: One? I don't know if we if we're not at

1152
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,079
peace or not, but and I wouldn't know how to

1153
01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:31,039
do that, but that's a great idea. I'm not sure how.

1154
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,439
I never thought about how to do that, but that'd

1155
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,079
be great if I could. I never really thought about it.

1156
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 2: Though there's a researcher out there who recommends that eyewitnesses

1157
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:46,199
do that, I'm going to highly recommend against that. These guys,

1158
01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:49,359
they are so up and down as far as their

1159
01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:53,079
emotions and how they respond to things. I would definitely

1160
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:57,800
recommend against doing that because Okay, if you start putting

1161
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,079
offerings out there on a pattern, for example, well every Tuesday, Well,

1162
01:12:02,079 --> 01:12:04,520
what happens if a Tuesday comes around and you don't

1163
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,399
put an offering out there because whatever, you're sick? If

1164
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,520
something happens, you're visiting family out of town, how's it

1165
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,399
going to respond? Is it going to take that as

1166
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,920
a slight And the last thing you want on your

1167
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,800
hands is a dog man that feels slighted. So that's

1168
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,239
just one of the many reasons I'm going to recommend

1169
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:26,800
against every even beginning that sort of thing.

1170
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,039
Speaker 1: I can't agree with you more. That's actually a relevant

1171
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:33,960
topic where I live now. People are feeding alligators and

1172
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,920
then they don't have their food. They get angry. Well

1173
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:38,359
they've been fine for one hundred years here. But you

1174
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,520
just don't do it, you know, don't you know, don't

1175
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,000
start it?

1176
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah, don't start none. The won't be none. Well

1177
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,640
if these guys, I guess there is going to be some.

1178
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But you know, why put a situation in place where

1179
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:54,359
you're increasing the odds of having a problem.

1180
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: Flam the fire right, No, yeah, that's right.

1181
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 2: The next one is from true heart. They want to

1182
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,880
know if it mind.

1183
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:09,199
Speaker 1: Spoke to you. I felt like things slowed down. But

1184
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,199
again it was such a maybe before, like before I

1185
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:16,399
even saw it, because they gosh, I'm getting chills again

1186
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,720
thinking about it. It was somehow it got my attention

1187
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,720
before I even saw the thing, and it was I

1188
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,520
didn't get any words, any verbalization. I didn't recognize it anyway,

1189
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,800
but certainly got to me. I know that, but I

1190
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,800
did not as far as you did. Mine spoke. As

1191
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,079
far as speaking the language, I don't know. I didn't

1192
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:38,199
hear anything direct, just a feeling.

1193
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: There have been plenty of times where they have apparently

1194
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,159
mind spoken with eyewitnesses, but yeah, that's definitely the exception

1195
01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:49,039
and not the norm, not the rule when it happens.

1196
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:51,319
So it doesn't surprise me that it didn't do that

1197
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:53,760
with you on any of those occasions.

1198
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:55,159
Speaker 1: This next I did.

1199
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: I was scare to listen, but well, yeah, you understandably.

1200
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,000
So this is the last question of the night. It's

1201
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,439
from Saint Euphemia and they want to know did you

1202
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,680
ever see any They want to know if you saw

1203
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,600
it run on all fours, didn't move like any kind

1204
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,600
of animal.

1205
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: No, it was gliding it literally, And this is the

1206
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:25,159
one recently. I'm telling you, God's gotta be It's nearly

1207
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,319
a half a mile. I can see it. It seemed

1208
01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:30,520
like it took a few steps on all fours and

1209
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,560
just almost skated across the ground in the field. It

1210
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,680
was Yes, I did see that, and it was there

1211
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:47,479
stretched out, very stretched out. But it was a lot

1212
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,520
of strength. I'll say that.

1213
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,399
Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it, but sasquatch do

1214
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:58,439
that as well, so it's not like that's unprecedented. Well, Jared,

1215
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,520
I can't thank you enough for coming on sharing the

1216
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,399
details of these experiences with this. Of course, I really

1217
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:05,800
hate the fact that you had to experience these things,

1218
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,439
but you didn't ask for them. But all you can

1219
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,399
do is just try to deal with them is as

1220
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,399
healthy of a way as you can. And please remember too,

1221
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,680
if you start having trouble, I'm not going anywhere. All

1222
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,279
I have to do is just let me know and

1223
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,199
we'll just schedule another conversation. I'll find out what's sailing

1224
01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:25,680
you and we'll take it from there.

1225
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vick. Do you mind if I say one

1226
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,760
thing about my experience last six years with you? Oh?

1227
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,039
Speaker 2: No, by all means, if you like to say anything, I.

1228
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:42,520
Speaker 1: Just I sat back, got a little ridicule when I

1229
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,159
told local. You know, we talked about the beginning family friends.

1230
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,439
But I've been listening to you a long time. Anyone

1231
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,239
listening who's doing like what I did for six years,

1232
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:58,479
five six years, just getting it out in the comfortable community.

1233
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,239
It just it helps tremendously. It just does. And I'm

1234
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,520
so grateful that you're here. Have you been helpful before,

1235
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,600
but it's even more so now talking to you and

1236
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,239
just just and it's kind of putting the burden down

1237
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,680
a little bit. And I'm just really grateful for you.

1238
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,560
And I just highly encourage anyone to just got to

1239
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,920
say the community, talk about it. You know, it helps, It.

1240
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: Does, It definitely does. And hearing you say that, that's

1241
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,399
why I do all this. I put in all the

1242
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,520
hours and all the work. I just feel so lucky

1243
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,079
to be in a position to be able to try

1244
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,920
and help. And of course the listeners, the people who

1245
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:37,359
out there listening to the show, who offer all this

1246
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,119
support for you and other eyewitnesses, I know they feel

1247
01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:43,760
the same way. Otherwise they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't

1248
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,680
help the way they do. But yeah, like I said,

1249
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,960
please remember if you ever need help in the future,

1250
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:50,039
please let me know.

1251
01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:51,520
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1252
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:53,279
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome.

1253
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: Well.

1254
01:16:54,039 --> 01:16:56,399
Speaker 2: Having said that, yeah, thanks again so much for coming

1255
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,680
on and sharing the details of those experiences and have

1256
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,119
a great Thanks.

1257
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:07,159
Speaker 1: We'll see you all right.

1258
01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 2: That's another one in the books. Like I've told you before,

1259
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,279
thanks again so much for listening and for supporting all

1260
01:17:13,399 --> 01:17:16,920
the eyewitnesses. Touching on what Jared just said, if you've

1261
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,399
had a Dogman encounter that you'd like to speak with

1262
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,720
me about, whether in private or on the show, please

1263
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,079
go to dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and if

1264
01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:30,479
you do that then of course, if you totally complete

1265
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,279
the report, that is, want to put that out there,

1266
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:36,600
that qualification, then I will contact you and schedule a

1267
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,600
phone conversation with you before we get out of here. Also,

1268
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,479
please remember Monday night, nine pm Eastern Time, going to

1269
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,800
have that special bonus episode where Kim's gonna come on

1270
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,479
and tell us about this most recent encounter she's had

1271
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,359
with Imber And of course, like I said earlier, she's

1272
01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:56,640
got this announcement. She wants to let you know about

1273
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:01,800
a special twist to this lighting that is going to

1274
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,199
blow you away. It sure blew me away, couldn't believe it,

1275
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:09,399
but thanks again so much for listening everyone, and not

1276
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,279
only have a great night, but I hope you have

1277
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:14,279
a great weekend. We'll catch you then on Monday,