Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots. Gee Ram, It's Bilified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome, and thank you for checking out Bilified.
Tell a friend, that's how we spread the word about
the pirate ship. Love that you're there listening, Love that
Kevin's here in studio. It's been a while. I had
the GPS my way out here. Tonight you forgot, forgot
how to get here already, and we're running late. I
apologize for that. There's so many things to talk about
and some things that came up on last night's podcast
that I want to address today, but you referred to
one of them, and I just have to say, like,
we have really great listeners to the podcast, more active
than I even remember in other forms of broadcasts that
I've done. Like somebody dropped off an ornament, just came
in here last night, dropped it off. We'll put our
tree up, Kevin's Kevin's Tree the twenty third of December. No,
we're not going to do it. The twenty third of December,
and uh, so we'll have that, but uh, somebody down
sometime around March just came in and did that. And
then somebody else was writing and they were they were
guessing they were talking about people because I've mentioned in
this second anniversary of the podcast coming up, and uh,
people were writing me going, hey, what about this one?
What about that one? And then somebody said, is that
person Nolong on the podcast because that's the person you
yelled at? And there was I did Did I tell
it caused you.
Speaker 3: To have to think about it? Because you yelled at
so many people?
Speaker 2: Did I tell that story on the pot? I think
I did. I can't tell I did that like that,
I melt it down on somebody you started that.
Speaker 3: I think I got drunk and then I melted down
and then I did this, and then I did this,
and then I said this, and then I called the
next morning.
Speaker 2: And I did and I did and basically so I've
stayed away. And then somebody came to the studio last
night and Kevin was like, hey, you just say anything,
and you you're Why would I, though, do you see
what I'm saying? Why would I?
Speaker 3: Because that person doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 2: I think they do, and I don't want to make
their life more miserable. I don't think there's a story
behind it that I can't tell. There is a story
there that's very compelling, I think. Don't you think it's
it's a compelling story, is it not? And my reason
for getting all all alcohol and another situation absolutely rocket
fueled that for me. Alcohol it was the worst that
after that is it was, I shouldn't even admit this.
It was after that that I went, I think I
got to get myself under control, and I went, and
then you still have it? No, No, I have actually yeah,
because all this is no but no, so go prior
to this. This is funny that you're laying this out.
I am starting to believe that there are no accidents
in life at all, that there are no coincidences. It's
not a coincidence. Somewhere somehow, this ship is all planned.
That after that night, when I was a complete out
of controled dickhead and said some awful things that were regrettable. Truly,
even though I still if you really put a gun
to my head, I would hold to it. My reasoning,
my reasoning, I thought my reasoning was fair yes, you're
looking out for a front. Thank you just waiting. You
put it better than I could have, and we're going
to play that song, and uh so I would hold that.
But I thought, boy, that the the way the message
was sent was completely wrong. Should never been done that way.
And I went and I.
Speaker 3: Should have folded it up like it was the eighties
and you were in class and it passed it along.
Speaker 2: Circ yes or no. Yeah, what's the thing with do
you remember the little triangle, the triangle that you open
like the fortune teller the fortune teller? And then oh what?
I could have wrote messages in there and gone over
to somebody and said, hey, did you.
Speaker 3: Know Yeah, that's gotten you in trouble too.
Speaker 2: So I went and started going to therapy after that
because I was like I, I clearly got some issues
that I haven't resolved, because no one should get that
angry and yell at somebody. You shouldn't do that. That
is what I really did. I really go that that's wrong,
that's I can you can make these use It was alcohol, true,
I'm not going to say that didn't fan the flames,
but shuld it still doesn't matter. You should be able
to drink or handle yourself better and if you can't,
there's an issue, go fix it. So that and then
after that was when Jamison, about a month into that city,
wants to come live with me. And I think things
have been better, not not perfect, but better because I've
been doing that.
Speaker 3: I haven't been drinking much either. I had one or
two beers the other night and then I hadn't want
to get a third one at the at the bar
after the Alumni game, and I'm like, I really don't
want this. I'd rather just have a sprite.
Speaker 2: Listen to you. It'll change. I'll start. Did you play
in the alumni game? I did not, Okay, but your
son did? Yes, Sam, Yeah, he came home for the weekend.
Speaker 3: He was home for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Oh Thanksgiving, Okay.
Speaker 3: Pissed because the one guy that the other goalie that
was supposed to be with him didn't show up. He's
also one of the assistant coaches of the varsity team.
He owns a restaurant and gates and it was a
little busy. It was a little busy. Yeah, and I go, man,
Sam is pissed at you. He goes, I know, but
he goes. So Caat called me and said yes, Sam
was absolutely lights out, incredible, crazy playing awesome.
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great, but he was
he was gassed. Yeah, I'm sure, Well, he hasn't been
playing every day.
Speaker 3: Well, he also saw probably forty something shots, and he
hasn't seen forty shots the game in.
Speaker 2: A long time. Yeah, So how do they play the
alumni game?
Speaker 3: Basically, when whoever shows up, We put emails out and
whoever shows up, and I just here's a white jersey,
here's a maroon jersey.
Speaker 2: Oh that's it. You may It's not like, you know,
classes two thousand to twenty ten taking on twenty eleventh.
We had that back in the day. We did it
that way. The one couple of years ago, with.
Speaker 3: The first year I ran it, I was celebrating the
ninety nine state champion team, so it was basically all
those guys versus everybody else. And then the last couple
of years it's just been like this year was literally
just it was random. I just as somebody came up,
I handed them a jersey, and I just try to
remember which which jersey I gave the last guy and
gave the other guy.
Speaker 2: It's different jersey, sounds like. Yeah, So you could be
going against maybe your best friend potentially or a close
friend brother. That's funny, all right. So there's a couple
of things I want to try tonight. We got a
message yesterday that I unscreened played on the air, and
I was a little embarrassed by it, but it has
rolled around in my head, and then you brought it
up when you came in here. But it had been
rolling around in my head most of the day, and
like you, I'm thinking it's some kind of a joke.
So well, maybe we'll call that number later on and
see if we can get somebody on the podcast. And
then I'd like to check in with our friend, an
old friend, an old friend of mine, and an old
friend of the show, and somebody somebody who has spread
his love all over Fairport and he's been here with
his girlfriend. I'm gonna just say his crackhead girlfriend tooth
loseetti because he's easy.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get another person pissed at you.
Speaker 2: That's all right. I can over run them. I not
a lot. I can do that anymore. And then yesterday
also we brought up the whole incident in Buffalo at
the game with the forty nine ers fan and the
eight year old girl.
Speaker 3: There's been more on it.
Speaker 2: It was Greg Okay, so I don't know. I said,
he's also representing the girl now too. I said some
things on the podcast yesterday that were it just the headline,
because I didn't see it until it was the New
York Post online and it was the lead story that
came up when you pulled up their page yesterday, and
it said Buffalo lw move whatever. Right. So I'm reading
it and then I go they have links in there,
and one of them was to thirteen WRAM one on
one's to Buffalo. So I go, well, let me go
to the Buffalo one just to see. And I knew
the girl from reading it. It had she was from Rochester.
And I go, all right, let's see how this goes.
And I'm going, something isn't making sense in this story
to me because it just I just wasn't adding up.
I'm going it sounds horrible on the surface.
Speaker 3: The way it was presented was that this girl basically
was punching the side of the head you knocked down
the freaking.
Speaker 2: Stand cute, and and and and and was a cancer
patient and people knew it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, she had a sign. Yes, I know,
but I still don't She had a sign that said,
this is my first game I survived. Saw the sign
the head.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that there's no way the person who allegedly
did this, and I'm sure something did happen. Look, those
steps are kind of steep anyway, you know what I'm saying.
Up in the three hundred level, it's kind of steep.
Speaker 3: And when you play it with snow, the snow and
that and so it's it's impossible that I didn't even
know that we could say how drunk the person was
or was not, and may not have known that they
had pushed over a little girls. I know people that
started talgating for that game at like nine ten o'clock
in the morning.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: And some of the parking lots and that's that was
an eight o'clock game.
Speaker 2: All right. But let me ask you this, because you
were not here, did you have those thoughts yourself? Or
did you or are those thoughts if someone presented them
to you, go, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: When I initially heard the story, I kind of like
it makes sense. It's you know, both fans are not
the nicest people to opposing fans. But then I'm thinking
about it. I'm like, you know what, they don't usually fuck.
Speaker 2: With kids, No, And I'm thinking, where's the report, where's
the father punching this guy in the face, where's you
know what I mean? And the and the dad and
I want to I'll play a little bit. I'll play
a little bit of this. The dad that bumped the kid, well,
he said that it could have been. It could have
been because he said the guy hit bumped into me first.
But the way the dad talks in this piece from
WYBV or IVB channel four and Buffalo, it's a little
different on going about what they want.
Speaker 4: We'll just hear what they said to learn from that experience, stillan.
Speaker 5: David Kelsey, The family tells us that luckily Mia was
not physically hurt.
Speaker 2: All we know all that now. The reason I'm bringing
this up again, and we did talk about it yesterday,
is that a listener wrote me and I'm not sure
if they heard the podcast or not, but they wrote
me in Rochester, New York.
Speaker 5: She however, became a big forty nine Ers fan because
of her father.
Speaker 6: Me and my dad in the hospital, will watch you
can't not roof when I come home sometimes for break
take in the hospital.
Speaker 2: So well spoken, such a cute kid.
Speaker 6: I'll sit down and you know, just relax to watch
football all day.
Speaker 7: That's what I'd like.
Speaker 2: That's how it has battled, and I don't know spoken,
I don't know. I wasn't thinking about it.
Speaker 5: In May of last year, she's been featured on Buffalo's
Hope Rises and News for Us. I just want to
get to her dad, helping raise money for other young
cancer warriors. On Sunday, she went to her first NFL
game at high Mark Stadium, braving the cold with a smile,
holding proudly an Ibat cancer.
Speaker 2: Sign in the car.
Speaker 6: When we were driving, I was saying, like, oh, I
was there yet. This kid truly excited, like I was.
Speaker 2: Well with the fun.
Speaker 5: Night was cut short after the family tells us a
drunk Bills fan pushed me a down the stairs in
unshoveled section three twelve.
Speaker 8: He said, I'm going to push through all these Niner fans.
So he actually bumped me about my son and me
a little bit, and then got past me and pushed
her almost slid off the stairs and hit her like
side on the chairs.
Speaker 5: The family was so uncomfortable they had to leave the
game early.
Speaker 8: The guy purposely walked through and was pushing through people.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.
Speaker 8: You know, that's busy and hectic, but he's he's had
to be six foot and she's less than one hundred pounds.
Speaker 5: The story caught the attention of former NFL playing.
Speaker 3: Okay, see it's it sounds very sensationalized. Back it is
because I can see I can see somebody. I mean,
you see that at the mall during the holidays. He's
on the slator somebody. You know, I'm just sitting there
taking a leasily ride and people want to get to
where they want to get and you know what, he
probably just kind of pushed a kid into the snowpile.
Newsy Bumble Bills fan Murder's nine year old cancer survivor, Kevin.
Speaker 2: I thought for sure that they punted this girl onto
the field, like they go, fuck you and your cancer. Like,
you know, it's the way the story or the headlines were, which.
Speaker 3: Is in the bill Stadium is not out of the
question saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the fans have gotten better. I
think I feel like the Bill's mafia reputation is for
fun and charitable causes. That's that's the over I.
Speaker 3: Think there's normal thinking people like you know, your Gregs
that are in the stands, They're just there.
Speaker 2: They want to be at the game.
Speaker 3: You've got your Bill's mafia that wants to have their fun,
maybe jump through a table, have a couple of years.
But you still got your assholes and there's gonna be
assholes everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. I like to think I haven't
encountered that, but I I'm not an eight year old girl.
I'm sure that intimidating.
Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg tells the story about how he went to
a game in the Metal Lands. He's a big Patriots
fan and went to the game in the Medal Lands.
Who was taking a piss yeah, and some guy punched
him in the back of the head because he had
a Patriots cheers.
Speaker 2: He turns around, the guy's like, oh shit, yeah, okay,
one was this though years ago. Yeah that's what I'm saying.
I feel like we've gotten a little better as a society.
Maybe I'm wrong, and I.
Speaker 3: Mean I've been I've been to New England, a game
in New England, and I don't know if it's just
I didn't see everything, or I'm not as you know,
immersed in it as I had been, like a Bills
have been there multiple times, but I just didn't see
the ship. You know, You've had packers, fans walking around
the bust some balls, but you're not seeing anybody go
trying to start swinging on somebody or asshole or just
being vermin abusive to us, you breaking balls or breaking balls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even I even feel like I always think
that this is a stratistic, It would be really strange.
I think you can tell a lot about where we
are in society by watching commercials on television. Does that
make sense? And there's the commercial where Eli Manning is
at a tailgate party. Tailgate he's tailgating, now a tailgate party.
He's a tailgating and it's a rival team across the way,
and they start John and then he goes, yeah, how
about we come over there and have some of those
ribs and we bring some of these beers and right,
and then obviously it's a great idea and you know
what I mean. And so it's almost like we were
there's more of a camaraderie. I've heard people say, I
hate that guys exchange jerseys after games. Now, I liked
when the players fucking hated each other, and they don't.
Speaker 3: They didn't hate each other. It was all very much
like wrestling.
Speaker 2: It was all k fabe. It probably was, But I'm
just saying, like, the bad guys.
Speaker 3: Don't drive with the good guys. But there were don't
you know Brian Cox doesn't talk to Jim Kelly.
Speaker 2: Yes, but there were people that just you know what
I'm saying, and they liked that rivalry more and that
this is different. And I think that that transcends to
the fans. That's why this story. Now, I'm not saying
something like that couldn't happen. I'm just going something's not
adding up to me. Because if you had a daughter
that has beaten cancer twice, and you and your wife
have been to the fucking depths of hell trying to
save this little girl, this precious and she's adorable, right,
and you watched her go through things, and I'm sure
if you if you talk to these people, they would
say to you, if I could have switched places with her,
I would have done it in a heartbeat, right, And
somebody does this and your fist isn't in their face,
or you're not john at the guy, or you're not
getting security to throw that guy out with the That's
what I'm saying. So that's why I said, in my head,
I go, it couldn't have been this bad. It just
couldn't have been. I don't want to be cynical. Okay,
well that's how somebody re begins their letter.
Speaker 3: But you worked in radio. I've worked in radio, dance
works radio. We've all seen all the bull shit with
people in charities and what.
Speaker 2: The yes, yes, yes, yes, you don't have any.
Speaker 3: Thought that maybe that they're trying to get something out
of this.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Bills, I have no idea. Here's
here's the way. No, I don't know they've cooked it
up to I can't even say that what I'm experience.
Here's what I thought. I thought. The father's a forty
nine Ers fan, the little girl's upset, the team is
losing badly, you're frustrated. You get back in the car
and you go, what allows the time we had? Because
this happened and somebody you or your wife, and all of.
Speaker 3: A sudden, the San Francisco forty nine, this and Hey,
I don't know, but you why don't you guys come
out to Levi Stadium and sit on the fifty yard
line in the suite.
Speaker 2: They should do that, by the way, they should do that.
But that you put it out on social media just
out of frustration with no intent behind it. That's that's
really I really think that that was the case, that
that's how I have it in my head, maybe more
the way you're speaking calculated, but I was thinking it
just wasn't. And then somebody saw it and was like,
holy shit, it little girl cancer survivor or first game,
and this is what happens. This is terrible. Now a
listener Doug wrote me and said, is it wrong for
me to feel cynical the same word you did the
Bills fan who pushed an eight year old cancer patient.
I feel truly bad for stating this, but I know
I can't be the only one who feels this way.
And I had said this stuff yesterday. But after the
Gypsy Rose story, a girl who never was even was sick. Now,
I don't know, I don't I've heard Gypsy Rose. I
don't know that I ever knew the story? Did you know? Okay,
but it's like the house her mom faked, faked it
for charity from an infinite until she was an adult.
And then he says, long ago, and he's right on, Uh,
there was we did on radio. We did a house
burned down. He mentions that I remember I was the
one in charge.
Speaker 3: Of That's what's making me think that is what's the
what's the end?
Speaker 2: Okay? So then the I says, he goes, I'm not
too sure about this feeling. So I have to believe
the same Buffalo Bills fans who have a reputation of
the best for charitable giving, allowed a drunk fan to
purposely push an eight year old cancer patient and nobody
saw this, reported this, or pummeled this guy. I mean,
you would think that if other people saw this that
they want to jumped in, and especially if she was
holding the you know, I'd be cancer twice or whatever
her sign said. And then he says the parents didn't
press charges or even report it to security, but instead
ran to social media or they already had to GoFundMe
set up for the family at Best, Oh boy, Kevin Best.
I believe someone may have slipped and fell into her.
It was halftime, it was cold, and their team was
looking bad. Could also be a reason to leave the
game at that time. I don't want to see Buffalo
get a bad reputation for something that either is taken
out of context or never even happen. Just my thoughts.
If this turns out to be true, I will apologize
in advance. And that's A listener named Doug wrote that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if it is true, then that person's an
absolute asshole. Yes, But if it's not true, then it's.
Speaker 2: Or if you're fishing for something the way they made
told it, it may be true.
Speaker 3: I just do you have the I'm just curious. Do
you have the name on the gofund me?
Speaker 2: I don't. I would love to see where it's at.
It was up, it was at four thousand, and then
in a day it went up another ten, So I
don't know.
Speaker 3: Which is not like Bill's Mafia. If this was something
that was legitimate, well.
Speaker 2: I think it would be. I don't know, because then
it's sort of like hitting and hitting it, so since
then it could be who knows what it is. But
I don't know. I just I thought it was painting
all the fans to the bron prush. That was unfair.
Speaker 3: That's sort of the and I I jest about Bills
fans and this and that because I'm not a Bills fan.
Speaker 2: I fully admitted that.
Speaker 3: But I've gone any Bills games against the Patriots, and
I've gone fully decked out in my gear. Yeah, and
I've one time ever had a problem. I usually get
in there drunk or not drunk. I just I look
around me and I start shooting the shit with.
Speaker 2: The people around me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'm cool.
Speaker 2: You guys be cool.
Speaker 3: We'll have a good time, and they're usually good with it. Yeah,
there's always one asshole somewhere, but if you're cool with
the people around you, they're gonna be cool with that.
Speaker 2: Usually the way it is, seriously, and that sort of
depicted in that commercial, being a drunk.
Speaker 3: Callidron asshole to them, They're not gonna be an asshole
to you.
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take a moment. Do we try to
call the person we think is playing a prank on us.
We'll do it. We'll do the yanking pranking. We'll get
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Speaker 2: So the guy killed the United Healthcare ceo said, I'm
just waiting on a friend.
Speaker 3: I almost bought you a Rolling Stones album for Christmas?
Speaker 2: Really what one? I don't remember.
Speaker 3: It was a record store day.
Speaker 2: What are you doing all this Christmas shopping? I've done nothing.
It was it was a get your It was get
your yeah, yeah, I'll get your ya yas out. That's
a great album.
Speaker 3: It's all decked out with different like flicker and tongs
and shit on the record and stuff.
Speaker 2: But then I didn't this, uh, this United Healthcare ceo
who was basically just was whacked. He was executed silencer, Yeah,
he was executed I so so instantly, I'm thinking, there's
a number of things here. I can't go watch the video.
I it's everywhere you can watch this in real time.
I'm assuming street cam or a doorbell ring doorbell. I'm
not really sure now that another I'm gonna watch this
in the break are you? Hell? Yeah, well watching, and
I guess I don't like seeing that stuff. I feel
awful for this family. He looks who knows, But I'm
thinking disgruntled employee. I mean, he took off on one
of those rent to scooter things, not even rent to scooter.
It's like that, you know, the motorized shit they have
in the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he took off a
man into a park and they can't find him, Like,
they can't find this guy anywhere. And you go, that
was absolutely I'm sorry I.
Speaker 3: Planted the scooter. Yeah, because those you have to credit card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm thinking it was that or they said
motorized scooter, so I instantly thought, you know, or urban
or suburban area. They probably have ark down the street.
It's like, but I go, who would even think? Who
would even think you could commit crimes? Look, there's there's
this this story from from Rochester today that you had
sent me this one.
Speaker 1: Knew at five thirty A bold crime and a Henrietta
shopping plaza, a thirty thousand heel machine used to remove snow.
Speaker 3: Vanish, the owner pleading for someone to come forward thirteen whams.
Natalie calls a TONI spoke with him to day, Natalie
Karen Lewell.
Speaker 7: The owner tells me he was shocked when he learned
that such a big machine was stolen.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love if they found it, like they did
find it, like fifty miles away in another county.
Speaker 2: But like, how do you that's a long ride. But
here's the thing, Okay, this is what I'm saying, Like
I would think now it's harder to get away with
things than ever before. But then there are certain crimes
that if you do it well, you could get away
with it. How many times has to drive one of those?
First of all, you got to know how to drive
that thirty thousand pound vehicle. Well most of them are
just steering wheel, now, are they?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because my neighbor drives used to drive one when
he would but they don't go more than like ten miles.
Speaker 2: An hour, No, they don't. So what somebody did was
they probably rolled up with a flatbed and put that
thing up on it, strapped it in. And if I'm
watching and i'm security, let's say for the plaza or
whatever it is, I just think it's the come but
he moving it. I don't have here another thought at all, Like, hey,
they're supposed to be getting snow west to here, and
they are probably moving some of the vehicles over that way.
We're gonna be okay, Like it would have never occurred
to me. Do you see what I'm saying? This guy,
this horrible situation where the CEO is murdered. I see
some dude in the hoodies, you know, flying by me
on a little scooter. I'm not thinking anything of it.
I didn't hear a gunshot.
Speaker 3: There was a silence, especially being New York City where
there's everybody's walking the streets regardless of the time of day.
Speaker 2: This is why I'm like it, just there are some crimes. Unfortunately,
now again they were able to track down the thirty
thousand dollars bucket loader, snowplow whatever you want to call it.
Uh to where was it a like massive somewhere they
found it. So, but the thing is like and great
police work, great investigation. Uh it's a big piece of equipment.
Try replacing that, try finding one. Just think of all
the money that guy would have been out because now
he can't do this commercial parking lot. Yeah, you know.
And and then at all I thought was how many
times have all of us driven by a construction site
and have seen like the back hoe or a bulldozer
just sitting there for days, days, nobody around, just days
if you could, and if somebody rolled up with a
flatbed and just act like you know what you're doing, done, gone,
never never even thought.
Speaker 3: You gotta assume they left the keys in it, because
I'm guessing those aren't hot wired and the key boys
with theb but these kids can They couldn't.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they couldn't drive that. I know that
sounds weird, and I know that you said they're easier
to drive now probably I don't know, but there used
to be a lot of levers in there.
Speaker 3: Just when you're working all the buckets and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there used to be even some of them
used to be lever operated. There was no steering in
some of these things. So I'm not I don't know
that that's the case anymore, because you gotta you gotta know.
I mean, there's farm equipment. Man, you gotta like fly
a jet. So there's no way a Kia boy did
this right and got it fifty miles away. No, not
a chance, not a fucking chance. Speed chase. No, we
can't even speed chase down ninety. But there are crimes
you can get away with, and like, if you act
like you know what you're doing, you can get away
with it. This guy, unfortunately, I mean even a murderer,
he got away with They found the bucket loader before
they found the murderer. I mean, come on, it's terrible.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll find the murderer. Um, somebody knows something's
gonna come up.
Speaker 2: But then don't you always wonder is there something more
nefarious about this? Like could this have been.
Speaker 3: Like blue craft blue shield order to hit? Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay? Could be could be that? I'm thinking like, could
this guy have been having an affair with somebody's wife
and this was the husband.
Speaker 3: It is New York City and this is dad, says
the Sopranos. It could be could be a whack.
Speaker 2: But and in order to get I guess you can
get anything in America, I like, truly anything. I could
probably get anything pretty much anywhere in the world, but
in America you can pretty much get anything. And that
dark web is out there, so getting a silencer and
a gun not impossible, I mean, not even close to
him possible.
Speaker 3: So I feel like silences are sold, aren't they Maybe
not in New York State, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah they have to be. Yeah, I don't know anything
about I don't know enough about guns or silencers, but
either way, it's it's just so sad. But that video. See,
here's the thing is, I don't like that these videos
get out, and I know why this one does. Why
it should because somebody may go, hey man, I saw
that guy because I remember whatever, there was a you know,
like a bleach spot on the back of his black hoodie,
you know what I'm saying. And yeah, he stood like that,
So yes, that should be out to try to count it.
But can you imagine being this guy's family, Hey man,
saw your dad get blown away? Hey I'm blowing snot
it's like say that, but I'm like that, That's that's
all I'm thinking. It's horrible. How do you protect you?
I have no idea how old this guy's kids are,
but I was assuming he's a family guy, maybe got
great health coverage, and uh not anymore, No, not anymore,
they're dropping them. Do we try calling yesterday? I was
just going through and you can leave a message and
the phone number scrolls on the bottom of if you're
watching on YouTube or Facebook five it's two six eighty
eight sixty six, but five A five two six eighty
eight sixty six. And so this guy left a message,
You're the greatest marine. Did not? Also, you love your show,
he said, I wish I could be you. He did not.
Why do you assholes always do that? I don't want
to play it again. But basically, the guy was like,
I've been scrolling around YouTube. I saw your stuff. I
like it reproduced. Never says his name, never says the
name of the company at all, leaves his phone number. Now,
in today's world, you can get all that very easily
because you know, the phone numbers come up, and this
is on our five eight five two O sixty eight
sixty six line. So we thought it would be kind
of fun to try to call the guy and find
out if this is legit. Because Kevin rightfully so said
he thinks it's a bit.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of your asshole friends.
Speaker 2: Very well, could be. I don't want to go through
the goddamn thing. Hey, this is Bill Moran. You had
left a voicemail on our number, and I'm calling you back.
We wanted to see if it was a joke or real. Hello,
can you hear me? I guess not.
Speaker 3: Just call him back through the board.
Speaker 2: Well, I was calling him back to the board. But
it's my fucking regular phone number. I don't want a bit.
Everybody's got your number, that's true. I don't have to
answer it's like nine. Then you for time. Hey, this
is Bill Moran. You had left a message on my
voicemail over the weekend and we were having bets on
the podcast, and we're doing it now. We just tried
calling you a few minutes ago as to whether it
was a joke or real. So feel free to call
this number back or the other number, either one and uh,
let's figure it out. Talk to you soon. How's that You.
Speaker 3: Should probably turn the phones on for tonight too, If
you're going to do that, what do.
Speaker 2: You mean through the laptop? No, no, no, I have
it because now it's a it's an app. The phones
are an app. Now they got rid of their website.
They just went to an app. So that's that's so
I can get calls. Anytime I've talked to listeners sitting
on my couch, people call and I was alone, so
I have to fuck I had a glass of wine
and I just started talking to somebody.
Speaker 3: Hold on taking it up.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, these guys, Hey, man, I get calls.
This is the weirdest thing. All the years on broadcast
media and Facebook was around as much as it is today.
You have the ability to call people never got a call.
I get calls and sometimes I go, I'm to answer
to this. I have no idea who it is. Like
maybe they'll say the name, but I don't know the person,
and sometimes they let go. Sometimes I just go, man,
fuck it, I have great conversation and I'll get My
favorite is the guy who called up and goes, man,
I'm as high as ship, but I thought I'd give
you a call. And that's why. That's why it's like that.
Speaker 3: One of the that bet that that one comic does
where he gets the wrong number call and it's like
some company with a budget issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just lets it go and.
Speaker 3: He keeps going with it, and they'd call back and
three or four times, and then like three days later
they finally call back again and they're starting to get
onto the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good bit.
Speaker 3: I've seen on Facebook.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I haven't. I'm not as familiar with
that one. Yeah, it's a comic who does it. Yeah, Yeah,
there was a couple for years that did a few
of them like that. They would all the uh more
when you got unsolicited to phone calls all the time.
Now your phone can silence it, and I think there's
right to privacy laws and things that you can just
block those calls. But they did telemarketers, and they some
of it was really funny that the way they would
flip it on the person.
Speaker 3: We saw when I when I worked with Kevin and Pete,
we thought we used to call different parts of the country. Yeah,
so it would come up like just a random number, right,
and people would answer and we'd have fun with him.
Speaker 2: So you could just got you could roll it over
to some other phone number. Yeah, yeah, we we did
that with somebody where they we told them that we
went through and set up a Google phone number that
would roll so you weren't giving out the person's phone number,
but all the calls to this line would roll to
this person's phone. So I got almost like a call forward,
a call forward, right, so you're getting you know, five
a five two two two one two one two right,
and it's going to my phone, but I don't know it.
And so we we said the free treadmill. Uh tired
of having this, you know, blah blah. Wife left, but
she left behind her treadmill. Just look and just come
and take it. And the phone. I mean, it was
like all hours the night. Jesus Christ, you gotta call
at one o'clock in the fucking morning. We should do
it again. It could be wee we we could have
some fun with that, all right, Well, uh we'll take
them moment. Kevin's son a big game against Notre Tame,
Notre Dame Betavia, right, yeah, and uh we have audio
from the broadcast as team doing some games, and I
like the way they say, mure, Yeah, we'll get to
that and maybe a little toothles SETI right after this,
b TV would fire pizza and grill and the mall
at Grease Streets. Kevin, they are out with the winter specials.
I saw, yeah, I saw, uh huh. And they even
put up a big picture of the Bizano or the Paisanos.
It's enormous. It's a yeah, it's a monster. It's a boat.
It's it's not a sub, it's a boat, a cruse ship.
It's a cruise ship. Thing is unbelievable. Now they do
have lighter fare there. You get some sweet potato salad
which sounds really really delicious. It's spinach, arugula, blend, cranberries,
pumpkin seeds, red onion, feta, cheese, roasted sweet potatoes with
a homemade honey mustard dressing, which really sounds good. And
sweet potatoes are very good for you. I'm looking forward
to the pasta.
Speaker 3: When they got the pasta one, I can't wait for
Matt to come in because I gotta decide which way
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: Is that the comfort that's not the comfort peace? Yeah, no,
the comfort pasta. The comfort plate is grilled cheese, sandwich, tomato, basil,
soup and fries. Oh, the pasta is a little further down.
It's like all kinds of meat, meatball, sausage. Let's see,
there's the dirty snowman. Well, these are drinks. Let me
see the meat Oh Sunday sauce. Beetball cupcakes sound good too? Yeah,
the meatball cupcakes sound good? Is the Sunday sauce their
housemade sauce loaded with pork, sausage, links, meatballs over pasta
choice of super souad. Is that the one you're talking about?
It does sound so good. It does sound so good,
especially as the weather it's been so cold.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And there's no way you finished the meal.
Speaker 3: You take it home.
Speaker 2: You've got two meals, which is nice. Yeah. And then
the way and I mean no disrespect the way you eat,
the way I eat. We'll get two meals. Some people
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Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: I love the video because it's the ex girlfriend and
then the new girlfriends. They're arriving at the ski place.
All those parts are decomposing. Now, he's that good at
anything away. I don't know why I've always I will
admit I'm a George Michael fan. Now I bring this
up and I play this today because I decided I'm
going to start listening to some holiday music. See if
I can get in the spirit a little bit.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: I haven't decorated at home, I haven't decorated in the studio.
I haven't done anything. But I'm thomore and more. Why
are you laughing? Why are you laughing at it? You're
like the Grinch? What do you I'm not like the Grinch.
I just here's the thing in my head. It's like
December fifteenth is when I turned the switch, but everybody
does it earlier and earlier, and I thought why not.
Speaker 3: So I was busting my knea balls because he's always
yells at me because I put my lights up so
early because my kids play with hockey.
Speaker 2: And when I have a free weekend or a free Saturday,
especially and.
Speaker 3: It's not seven degrees outside, I'd rather be out there
putting the ship up. Yeah, And he's like, no, you
can't do it till after Thanksgiving. So he's putting all
his ship up over the weekend. I go, man, you're
putting that sit up way too early. It's not even
December yet.
Speaker 2: What did he say? He just looked at me and
laughed no. But so I was looking around on my
satellite radio Staate Satellite Radio, and I found a station
and it I loved it. It's and people are gonna go,
oh yeah, Jimmy Fallons Christmas. He has a Christmas station,
and it's fantastic. It's a great variety of different stuff.
Because I listened to the Mariah Carrey Holly station they
have and it's Mariah and it's like, I couldn't I
couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: You already You've already lost the Mariah game for the year.
Speaker 2: I've already lost them. Oh yeah, I lost the Mariah
game a while ago. But it was the first song
and I came on by the way when I Holly
one day, and then I decided to listen to it,
and it was like, it's Mariah takeover Mondays. But I
happen to be listening on a Tuesday. I go, hey,
look at that. Even Satellite Kids is wrong, so it's radio.
But then this, this Jimmy found station is fantastic, and
I heard that song today. I'm not a fan of
Christmas music.
Speaker 3: I could leave it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could too to it.
Speaker 3: The only I did relent once this year. Brady wanted
to listen to it. One day we were driving something whatever,
I'll throw it on.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, you don't play it when all
the kids are going to like hockey games and anything
like that. You don't play the Christmas shitty podcast like
Bill for kids. All right, So speaking of that, I
love this because do many of the schools your son
plays against have played by play guys.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: This is something that came out during COVID it's a
company called Varsity Media that doesn't. Oh okay, and a
lot of the teams did it during COVID because you
can only get so many people.
Speaker 2: Hang on a second. I thought this was a Batavia
team because doing it, because they sounded like home.
Speaker 3: They are Batavia, they are okay, because they see they're
the only ones that actually commentate the game. Actually, I
think the McQuaid, the mcquad kids do too. There's a
McQuaid Varsity Media that they commentates.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: All right, let one of the kids Stam played with
was the commentator.
Speaker 2: Let me rephrase that. These commentators, because I can say
homwers sounded like they were more familiar with the players
on the Notre Dame Batavia team.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, the one guy, the lead guy's sons a
senior on the Batavia team, and the other guy I
believe might have been a coach or assistant before they
merged with Batavia Underdame.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so this is uh. I love this
because it starts it's Notre Dame going down the ice
and then something happens.
Speaker 3: Emmy Pie's the assistant captain just directed traffic out there.
Speaker 4: Now Will Stevens trying to cut the ice in halpen
and passed it. But here comes place Sammy Pies with
a little kind of chip and goes over the line.
Speaker 2: Who had him.
Speaker 3: Gotta be careful now, no Carney with a stick.
Speaker 2: But here they come four on one. Here's the Oh my,
these guys, wow, look exactly like ge Oh mg.
Speaker 4: Just that frenzy right now, an absolute frenzy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Great, great hustle by sampires getting back.
Speaker 2: But you can't let him take great enough? Two three?
Speaker 3: This guy talking Sampi his father.
Speaker 2: So your son scored there? Why it's just they don't
go aware, They do not go away. And I'll tell
you what, Steve, tell you what Steve. Some of them bitch. Hey,
you know he's fucking kids. I watched most of the
game today.
Speaker 3: Cobs was at it last night and they they were
going deep referencing just different ship in Batavia. Yeah, like
the Red Bar and then Pontorosa and this and that.
I'm like, you get, you get the Italian isload and
Steve's diner.
Speaker 2: Here it's one more. This is another one where your
son scored. How many goals you have? Just the two?
He had one goal last night and I should have
had two assists.
Speaker 4: Over the line, Johnson and wall shamp little uh juggling
up the lines right now? Yeah, you got Champ up
there on the first line. Hutchons can't find his man
and coming out of his own right now, is weird.
We're up on the line and minus looking for the
entry your oh wow, and just like that to one
little irish and yep, I see that. They they put
Champ up there on the line and they moved Cummings
around a little bit.
Speaker 2: So all right, there you go. I got to ask
you this because did they win in the end? They did?
Speaker 10: Not?
Speaker 2: Eight six? Okay, but sounds like a pretty evenly matched squad.
So then went back and forth the end.
Speaker 3: We were we were up.
Speaker 2: They were up. We were up. So when you're watching
this stuff and you you went back and watched the
game film. I went back to watch some of the
things that I missed turning the game. That's okay. I
but you did like you took the time. Is your
kid aware that you did that? I don't think so. Yeah,
here's why. I mean, I wasn't going back looking for him.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, like there was there was there
was a collision that I missed what it happened, and
I wanted to kind of see it. Yeah, there was
a couple of dirtier hits that I kind of wanted
to see again. There was a penalty called against our coach.
I was trying to see where that happened and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But here here's why, here's here's my point is
that if Sam wasn't on this team, you're not watching
that film. Tyler's or Tyler excuse me if this would
make more sense, if if Tyler's not there, you're not
watching that film. Well, we do for a.
Speaker 3: Quiet as sweet my buddy actually, and I'm thinking about
my buddy Keith. He comes out and he videotapes the
games for for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he basically.
Speaker 3: Throws him on a memory stick and gives him the
coach so he can he can break it down after
the games. But he will always put a full broadcast
on his YouTube page of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But he'll also do like a two or three minute
highlight'll show all the goals.
Speaker 2: If there was a sweet.
Speaker 3: Save, a big check, he'll throw that. Okay, I'll invest
the three minutes and watch that. I usually don't watch
a whole game back Okay.
Speaker 2: My point is this simply this, you use the right
term invest you you're you put time into watching your
son's game. He should I think he should know about
that that. I think that's amazing, I really do. And
what your friend does well with the editing and stuff
that takes a lot of time. Yet he's been doing
it for years. Obviously he loves.
Speaker 3: Doing it, but there's doesn't love it anymore. He did
it because it was his kid. Yeah, and Sam played
with his kid.
Speaker 2: It's still his kid now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So we kind of suckered him into Tyler's
travel team and doing it, and we suckered him into
doing one of Brady's games last week.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 3: It's just it's more now, just something for the kids
to look back on and in the years because it's
it's on the internet, so.
Speaker 2: It's never going away. It's so it's there. Yeah, unless
he takes it down, it's not going anywhere. Yeah, Jordan's
girlfriend came to Thanksgiving, Tyler's thirty he can show his kids,
and Jamison pulls up video from Jordan in first grade
that I had put on YouTube, dressed as Dracula. Yeah,
first grade, and goes and shows.
Speaker 3: Hey, so that dick doesn't fire far far from the dictory.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, this one is
I think this is just a branch off of it.
It's didn't even it's not even its own Well no,
that's not fair. It is its own tree. But talk
about the pride you must have watching your kid play
for the same team you did. Maybe you're not gonna
maybe you won't admit to being a little bit mushy
or how that may warm the cold cockles of your heart.
But I gotta think that that is pretty freaking cool.
It's just fun to watch. I mean, I just like,
I just I love hot. But your son, I mean,
Tyler's good.
Speaker 3: He has his moments.
Speaker 2: Do you ever and I know you coached at one point,
do you ever find your again? No, but do you
ever find yourself like being critical of something he did,
saying hey man, why did you without him even bringing
it up. Let's say it's you and he, it's an
hour ride back from Buffalo. You're in the car alone together,
and you say something like why did you do that?
Speaker 3: Or I'll tell him stuff like if I see stuff
like he's doing, like if I if he's you know,
cutting the wrong way, or if he's on a penalty
kill and he's too far, too too.
Speaker 2: Low in the zone instead of being out the top.
I'll mention it to him.
Speaker 3: He doesn't listen.
Speaker 2: He doesn't Tyler Send never listened. But if I tell you,
if you said it to him, yeah, he'd be like,
oh yeah, it's different. I always say the same thing
I say. There are times I've had my brother called
all my kids yeah, because they'll listen to him because
he's cool Uncle Kevin and I'm just douce dad And
it's no big but it's there's something.
Speaker 3: About it drives some nuts when I'll tell him something yeah,
and then he'll he'll be mad enough to be like, yeah, coach,
those said I was playing a little my mystic, wasn't
active enough on the penalty kill.
Speaker 2: I was a little low. Like oh, you mean like
what I told you three days ago. Oh, interesting, Maybe
I do know something, but like yeah, because it's hard
because you want them to do well and you see
little things and you know and you know the game.
Like it's funny because Jamison has and having this love
hate thing with the basketball and the nerves and the
things that are going on and I don't know if
they're making cuts as we're recording this tonight or not,
but I had I was picking them up early from
school for an appointment, and then we ran home and
all of a sudden, they hear, Oh my god, Dad,
I know you're going to think and I did this
on purpose, but I left my bag with all my
basketball stuff in it in a classroom because nobody uses
a locker anymore. These kids walking around with backpacks on
all the time. And is that why Tyler's backpack was
seventy eight pounds the card? I swear to god, they
I don't. I don't think they Jamison doesn't and I
see kids when I sub they don't. They don't because
the lady said to me, you can have a locker
if you want to go. You don't think I can
remember accommodator, But so put your sweet mc jagger picture up.
So many your white snake jackheads. What the white snaked
the white snake mirror used to win at the County Fair.
I had a led Zeppelin one with the angel falling down.
But as so my thing is sometimes was always I
was probably too quick, and I know I shouldn't admit
this but Jack Jordan. Jordan asked, Jamison, do you get
the dad lectures? Because I used a lecture Jordan all
the time. And here's the thing that the guys don't know.
I look at them all as individuals, not as a
collective one. They're each different and what may work for
one of my sons isn't going to work for another
one of my sons. And the lecture stuff is going
to be a tune out. Jamison is just going to
make fun of me and come around and all of
a sudden he'll puff himself up and go, oh, you know,
like I was saying earlier, you know, when you're really
you want to put a coaster down, so we don't
leave a ring on the table, right, because you know whatever.
He would make fun of me on shit, But Jordan,
I would lecture all the time because.
Speaker 3: It was like he responds to it.
Speaker 2: He responded to it, and he just there was a lot.
I mean, he was in a high pressure school and
all that stuff, and it just was sort of more
his personality. Jamison is one. So I get in the
car and we're driving there or no in the house,
I go, this is self sabotage. That's what I said,
because he left the bag, the basketball bag in this
classroom with his sneakers in it, and he refuses to
wear the new Balance sneakers because his ankle will roll
and they look bad. And he's not going to wear
these new Jordans he got because it's going to crease
the leather and they're not for playing basketball. And so
then we get in the jeep and I say, this
is self sabotage, right, because you're not and you're in
slides walking in there, and you're telling me that nobody
has a universal key and can get into this classroom.
Speaker 3: So what's what's you try out for? What level is
he trying for modifying?
Speaker 2: I'm on which I don't think they cut. I don't
I think everybody makes modified. Okay, well that would be
good because this has been a torture for the kid,
But there was also like forty five kids in the gym,
so I don't know they may have to. So I'm
watching this and I say it. So then he goes,
I have my old ones, And then I said, okay,
do you want me to wait? Can you try to
see if there's custodial staff around they have universal keys,
they could get you into your no no no. So
I get a text. But on the way there, I
know with this guy, when I say things that are
are a little more cutting, like this is self sabotage.
It It just it shuts them down. Yeah, So as
we're driving, I kind of said a little uh Bill
Moran style prayer and go, give me the right words
to say to this guy, because I don't want his
head going down. I was so sabotaged. So I said,
you know what, I go, you're not used to carrying
around two backpacks. I go, it's very I said, I
totally understand why you I said, that one you have
is so heavy. I see all the kids. I go,
there was a kid the other day who said he
didn't want to he had to go to the bathroom,
but he didn't want to leave his book bad because
he didn't trust his buddies in the back of the room.
And I go, you're going to fall in with that
thing because it's so big. And I said, so I
understand that you're called. I go, you're just not used
to walking around with two backpacks. I said, it totally
makes sense that you left it. And I said, I'm sorry.
I said, self sabotage because now that I think about
it and step back a little bit, you're right, I said,
if here's the shit out of him. No, he just
sat there and he just started nodding his head and
I could All I wanted was you not to be
all in your head. So now you just self combust right,
or you blow it completely? And I go, you know what,
I bet those sneakers that you picked, because he goes,
I had the old basketball sneakers in the back of
the closet. He ran back in got him and then
we and then we went and he texted me. He goes,
they're a little tight, but they'll be fine. So I said, great.
But my point is, if it were Jordan, I would
have gone, yourself sabotaging yourself. This is what you do.
You got to get your head out of your ask.
That would have been But I don't do that. And
so Jordan's like all pissed off. At Thanksgiving, James said,
he goes, Dad never lectures me. That's really cool, man,
it says, But you gotta know your right, You gotta
know your guys. And that's what I always say about bosses.
You gotta know what motivates what person, and one guy
just responds more maybe maybe I was wrong in my
method maybe with that guy, but this guy, I knew
it would shut down. And that's why I said. I
was like, give me the right thing to say, and
it just all of a sudden, I just went, Okay,
you're not used to carrying two bags. I would have
forgotten it too, Man, don't worry about it, and everything's
gonna be great, you know, keep your head up. You
want this, you got it? And are you in the
back of your mind this is such a bullshit. No,
I'm not, because I'm thinking to myself, if i'm his age, well,
here's the thing that I thought. He and I are
so alike. Okay, and my dad was a lot more
at times. At times was more like I was with
Jordan with me, and there are times where you're like,
you start to just I suck at everything. I can't
do anything right. No matter what I do right, I
can't do anything right. And I thought, what would I
want to hear? What would I want to hear? And
when I said, you're not used to carrying two you
got that one big bag, you grab it every day
and you move from class to class, I go, nobody
uses a locker anymore. It makes sense, and it totally
flipped them because I do believe that, and I go,
if it were me in that situation, sure, how many
times I forget shit all the fucking time? How much
do I forget shit? Now?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: Huh? So it's not you know what I mean. So,
but I'm just saying, like you're.
Speaker 3: Not used to running your own podcast, It's okay.
Speaker 2: But the hard part, with the hard part with some
of this stuff is for me. And that's why I
was asking you is when I see shit going and
I can almost see four steps ahead where this is
gonna end up, I want to jump in and go,
what the whoa whoa? You know, or fix it? And
that's not how you learn. Words don't teach people. It's actions,
you know. I mean Tyler knowing eventually I got to
be up here. But also the fact that whatever happened
on the ice happened because he wasn't in position. That's
a bigger teacher than the words.
Speaker 3: I've made that mistake a few times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's just tough. But it's
so hard because you want, I don't know, you want
the best for them, and yet you can't do it
for him, and you hate to see him do that.
And my first instinct goes, well, this is self sabotage.
You don't you're so con learned about doing it. You're
thinking how can I get out of it?
Speaker 3: Or when you see the same mistake five or six
times and you know that you've told, hey, yes, don't
make that first right, make the second stay.
Speaker 2: It's just trying right exactly. But it's just I think
that the other advantage that Jamison has is I am
ten years older then his when his brothers were his age,
I'm ten years older. So you get a little more
perspective on life. You go, all right, you know, let's
go easy. It's the cave.
Speaker 3: You're soberish too.
Speaker 2: That maybe that maybe I don't know, all right, speaking
of soberish, Well take a moment. And we got to
try to call tooth ASEETI just because I heard stories
about tooth a SETI today and I just need to
know about there's a toilet involved. What would he know
about stealing a thirty thousand pounds front loader for snow
removal and what other things are happening because he don't
forget he did have his crackhead for Anything here and
we did the whole podcast. Some people were very angry
that I did that. They felt like it was like
you have cameras in a microwave. Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: I gotta make a phone call here. There might be
a ticket open?
Speaker 2: Want this show? Oh really, what do you mean? You
know what I mean? Well, we talked about that yesterday.
I didn't think it was that bad, but I'm not.
I don't know if it was or wasn't it was.
There was nothing mentioned. Yeah, right now, Kevin is uh
in the middle of trying to stir some ship up.
If somebody made a post online and I stay away
from this stuff, We're coming up on the second anniversary
of the podcast, and I, you know, will tell you
that I don't get involved in any of that. I
just love making you uncomfortable. Well it does make me,
why because my name gets mentioned in the comments and
then you were oh, careful, and I'm like, I don't
know the careful one in well before your name was
the first careful because you were going to write something
else and I just said careful, careful because I wasn't
gonna writ anything else.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: The thing is that that I think have what you
have to do with social media, and I'm I'm very,
very sincere about this. You've got to think to yourself,
this is people sitting behind a keyboard. I'm not saying
that's not This is not aimed at you.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I got worried a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: This is awesome, right, but this is not you. My
point is that if you are the person who's on
the other side of a negative comment online, I think
the worst thing you can do is react. I really do.
I think having a knee jerk reaction pretty much to
anything in life is completely fucking out of bounds these days.
In my head and the reason is that absolutely anything
has no fucking meaning at all unless you give it
to it. That's it. And so when you see something
online that maybe someone's opinion that really has no meaning,
that has thirty comments, which is probably a decent amount
of comments, it's thirty fucking idiots.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you're reaching more than that, idiot to me, Okay,
but my point, idiot, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: And yet this will send some people completely sideways and
ruin their days. And I feel bad for those people,
but I want nothing to do with them. I really don't.
And that's why that's I keep it very, very bad.
Speaker 3: And it's just a little ship staring border skirmish has
never hurt nobody.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But that's my point with this ship.
But Kevin, Kevin is the ship, sir her, and he
couldn't wait because I make because I love to make
you uncomfortable. See how quickly, okay can I say? Can
I have to say what this is? Because I just
can't talk about it generically. Somebody wrote something about radio
right online and then there were a bunch of comments
to this this, to this thing, and in there my
name gets mentioned by somebody else that I don't even
know because Kevin's like, oh look look, no, I don't
want it. I just read the Kevin, You're like, get
the fuck out of here, because I thought you made
it up, and I had to thought I made.
Speaker 3: It up because I don't want to. I think I
made it up.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I know, but you also I'm a shifter,
not an asshole. No, but it it tickles your ribs
a little bit to fucking yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I like the shit star a little bit,
just to see how long it takes you to get
the phone call.
Speaker 2: Well, see, I don't want to get the phone call.
And here's Oh. I got the phone call back from
you a couple weeks ago. You were it was eight
minutes and you were giggling your ass off.
Speaker 3: Called me. I was on four ninety five minutes left
from here and you were giggling your ass.
Speaker 2: That was God. No, I got the text. I got
the text, and that was about something completely different. And
you said, because when you left.
Speaker 3: You chuckled your ass, you giggled like a little school girl,
called me.
Speaker 2: I did because but that had nothing to do with this.
Oh I know, here's why. Here's here's why for some
people made it not even know I was on the
radio in the town that we'll do the podcast in
for a very very very long time, and without sounding
like a complete fucking douchebag asshole, I was. I had
might be the opinion amount there could be. I had
a lot of success there. I did, and it came
to what I can say is an abrupt end. I
think it was an abrupt end. Contract issue, boom. You know,
it's corporate world, and people know that. Okay, shit gets
written online and then it's like I'm behind it in
some way because I'm supposed to be this bitter, angry
fuck these people, and I'm not and I never have been.
And you can go back through the history of this
podcast over the past two years and I have not
said that. And I will consistently say that radio at
the corporate level has gotten too big. I still think
it's viable. People go, oh, radio set, I don't believe that.
I think if you went back to serving the greater
population of where you're located, it would be better. And
I was part of that problem, being on eighty stations
around the country talking about you know, Wiley Coyotes, Texas
festival when I've never been to Wily Coyotes, Texas. You
know what I'm saying, Hey, man, come out and see us,
and we're on the fox ninety five to one. I
have no fucking idea. I'm just reading liners that they
sent me, trying to make it sound like I'm sitting
in Brian, Texas, or Huntsville, Alabama, or Sacramento or wherever
I was. And I get the idea that we can
do that in radio and make it cool. And there
the technology with things has changed. Like I would get
messages from people on this special app that they had
and it was all great, but it would always be
like days later that you're answering somebody you missed. The
intimacy of radio and podcasting has replaced that for people,
the intimacy it really has. And I'm when I'm telling
you that people have dropped off ornaments and people call
me and I'm sitting on my couch because I have
an app that answers the phone for us. Now, again technology,
I didn't have that stuff in radio, but you could
if you started serving that local community again. And I
would never shit on radio, and I would never shit
on anybody who's on the radio. I just I think
the funniest part of this group, I damn I get
blamed for it.
Speaker 3: The funniest part about this group on Facebook is it's
about one hundred and fifty two hundred former radio dicks
who haven't been in the game, like myself in fifteen
or twenty years. I'm not in the game. I know
of the game because I get a lot of information
from you. Yeah, yeah, but either so many people haven't
been in the game for many, many, many years, and
it's it's all these these are the dicks that are
making these okay, So that to.
Speaker 2: Me would be someone who's bitter, right, who's making all
the One person I told you earlier is definitely better. Yeah,
and I but I do not jump on any of
this ship because I don't care. I'm very happy doing this.
I love this. I've loved working with you. I will
say that, you know, and we'll do more of this
because we're going to do a two year anniversary thing.
But as I look back, or as the term is reflect,
I I think back a boy, I wouldn't have had
half the things that I that are happening in my
life now happening. If I were still talking into a
different microphone. I just wouldn't. So for me, I have
no I have no love loss, and I'm not angry
and I don't get bitter. But God, these things go
out there and I and my I will I will
say this, my sphinter gets tight because I know that
people go, hell, Bill morem must be behind us in
some way and I'm not, and I.
Speaker 3: Never have and don't find it's probably me shit stirring
and I'm just happy being number three.
Speaker 2: But here's the but here's the problem. They know you're
on this podcast. So then it comes like, oh, like
I'm using you as my shield and I'm fucking not.
And that's the thing that drive me nuts because.
Speaker 3: I'm funnier than you and I'm a better shitster than you.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I learned from you. The master has what
is it the student teachers? Yes, the student has become
the master. The student has surpassed the teacher. Uh, we want,
we want. Kevin and the Plates to.
Speaker 3: Kevin and the Garbage Plates a reggae song about shipsterday.
Speaker 2: So it's a reggae song about ship stirring or should
we say trouble making go ship stirring first, ship stirring
and trouble making. It's just just because I'm afraid they're
all right if it backs it out. Reggae song about
ship stirring, Uh, reggae song about let's say, Kevin being
a ship stir.
Speaker 9: Ay.
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin and the garbage Plates are about to
come up with a new song that'll be a smash. Oh,
I couldn't generate song description flagged all right, So doo
doo stirring, trouble an instigator poop stirring. Let's see. I
knew that would happen and used the line careful. I didn't.
I didn't do that too late. It's already it's in
the works. Here we go and Kevin in the threes,
Kevin in the threes, Kevin and the dice potatoes, Kevin
and the Meat Sauce, Kevin and the Meat Sauce. It'd
be a great band name. No, let's see what we got.
In the meantime, I want to also try to find
our friend Toothless Eddie and see what he uh has
to say about someone trying to steal a toilet from him.
A broken toilet, a broken toilet. There's gonna be a
lot of editing in this podcast. I don't have time.
Come on write this damn song.
Speaker 3: Chetchy be to go back and be like, really.
Speaker 2: Barber, hey, ma was going on toothless Eddie were on
the podcast.
Speaker 7: Yeah, very cool man. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you doing?
Speaker 7: I've been uh like some shit go on, It's I'll
be okay. Yeah yeah, well no.
Speaker 2: I'm all right.
Speaker 7: I need to travel. I need to travel again.
Speaker 2: Once you eat too many wings today?
Speaker 7: Oh my god, yeah they were they were warm. Yeah yeah,
well excuse me.
Speaker 2: People came in and just told me that they saw
you today. So Eddie, tell me about that. You replaced
a toilet in your house.
Speaker 7: Uh no, no, well at well the one that took
out of the bar there. Ye uh you know, I
replaced it and and uh my roommate needed one, so
I brought it so I called it cat got it.
Speaker 2: So okay.
Speaker 7: Anyway, I'm all fine. You know what I mean, Empire,
I just I've gone through Picky, I go through some
bucking ship.
Speaker 2: You know what's happened in Eddie? What's happening with.
Speaker 7: My I can't I don't I want to say, I
definitely you know, is it with the lady. Uh, several things,
several things. I think I need to go back to
New England real suit, you know what I mean, New
England doing New England all point south.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to go back to New England.
Speaker 3: Well because I like it there, I do, you know,
I do you do good in Nashville.
Speaker 7: I think I like Nashville. It's a great funny eddie.
Speaker 2: Where would you stay if you go to New England?
Speaker 7: Uh? With my friend uh Billy O'Dell okay, Yeah, living
in Hampden and it's a nice place. It's a nice child.
Uh yeah, yeah, all right?
Speaker 2: Is everything? Is everything?
Speaker 7: What? What?
Speaker 2: What's the terrible thing? Give me a hint as to
what this is? Is a health related related.
Speaker 7: I'll call you the ball with it about it, you know,
and explained. But I'm looking, I'm all right, I'm just
I'm just fighting some buck deepers, you know what I mean?
Speaker 11: You?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: Did some woman? Did someone woman? Did somebody steal the toilet?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: No, Day didn't want to know where's where's the toilet?
He said. I wanted to put it somewhere. I wanted
to put it in my new home or my girlfriend something.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 7: I said, Well, well, Dick, can you got it? He said, Well,
I didn't really want it. I said, well, yeah, don't kidding,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So you took a toilet that many people have sat
on at Mount Connery's. You replaced that one, and your
roommate took it and put it in his house.
Speaker 7: Well it's just just just sitting here now.
Speaker 2: But the women's room, the other man toilet is mine too.
Speaker 7: My yeah, mine too. But I don't you know, there's
a big cause that can clean. You know, you get
clean stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's over.
Speaker 2: I can't wait till Ai tries to generate captions for
a video with an yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7: I hear you. I hear you drinking? I had, I had,
well earlier I had probably rips. I don't know. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: You do anything else today to get a little no,
oh yeah.
Speaker 7: I put tires on my car. I you are to go?
I was you are to go to? When?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 7: The Massachusetts?
Speaker 2: What are you running away from?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: Why? Why all this running away? One of the problems.
Speaker 7: Well, because I'm not happy. I'm not not a little
bit that a little bit, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me let me, let me ask you this.
Let me play pop psychologists with you, let me be
on the radio. H yeah. But wherever you go, your
problems are going with you. So what's what's the root
of this ship? Eddie?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 7: I could tell you about I really, I really can't.
And you know what actually I would.
Speaker 2: Think like to you know, all right, I'm just I'm
concerned you and I because you and I.
Speaker 7: I'm like that, and you're one of very few people
that I trust, uh confidentially. You know what I mean
that I could that I could talk with that.
Speaker 2: That I could talk well, I'm not I don't say anything, but.
Speaker 7: Because you because you've meant through ship too, you know
what I mean? We all have. We all have two
different levels. And it's just you know, I run the
thing is William I run the other time? You know,
I am and I have to run out of time,
you know, as simple as that.
Speaker 2: Are you in poor health or does it have to
do something? No?
Speaker 7: No, no, no no no no no no no no
no for health. No, Uh, I have to go for
a bier procedure. I have a slight earnier uh, which
is you know nothing. I suppose you're put a ball
patch on there and I'm good, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Pray for you.
Speaker 11: We will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, call me to try try to reach out to
me tomorrow sometime in the afternoon. Let's go after three.
Speaker 7: After three ish. All right, Yeah, that's that sounds good.
I believe love Caulator.
Speaker 2: That's depressing. That's depressing. It's so with a woman. But
here's the thing is, like I always love these people,
and and maybe you've known them in your life as well. Uh,
I gotta get out of here, I gotta I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go to Florida. Everything's gonna be.
Speaker 3: That's all too close to my kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you go, you go to Florida and
you come and then all of a sudden, and I
think a lot of people if you think about it,
you know somebody who knows somebody who did this. It
just you brought all your same ship there. It's just warmer. Well. Yeah,
the only thing I'll say is it's like same stuff,
different players. Right, It's not Kevin, now, it's somebody else.
It's not Eddie's this crackhead girlfriend, but it's somebody.
Speaker 3: Well, you you walk away from the problem up here
and it's gone for three or four weeks down there,
right and you're on vacation.
Speaker 2: Then you attract the same stuff back and that's the problem,
and then you need a ship stir in your life.
Kevin won a reggae song. There. It is Kevin and
the meat sauce of the pop. Every single day.
Speaker 3: He was Visnia here.
Speaker 10: Things you never say, I don't whisper. He's got away
with words, making trouble bloom. You'll find yourself in drama.
That's the Keats gloomy God.
Speaker 2: A gift from making trouble food. This made me the
best one. Yes, God, you never really know.
Speaker 3: It's game.
Speaker 2: I want someone to wrap over this, like I want
somebody to come in and go Kevin's just ship star
and you know, like shaggy Yeah, like right.
Speaker 10: There at the interlus already on ago, Yeah, finding ways
and mess with everyone. He knows this is true, by
the way, spreading metal eyes to.
Speaker 2: Make the gos that I disagree about for stealing the show.
Got a gift from making trouble bloom. All right. So wait,
they give you two versions of the song. So that's
the first one, and that's usually the best one. But
I love this.
Speaker 3: This sounds like country reggae, No.
Speaker 2: Shoes, killy man, it's the jolly mon n.
Speaker 11: About every single day and whispers in your ear things
you never says, got away with words, making trouble, bloom
you'll find yourself and drama thanks to Kevin's bloom. Gott
a gift from making trouble for.
Speaker 2: Guy you never really know. Ye yeah, island Field, everybody,
here's the big hit? What's that? Channels HiT's one every
single day?
Speaker 10: She was any things you never say, he's got away with.
Speaker 2: There you go, Kevin. Now you get your own song.
You make this ree. I'm gonna make it my ring
tone for you. But do they still do ring? Put
it on the iTunes? Start and somebody we can sell.
I bet we could, I bet we could. Can I
put that on the website. I probably could embed that
on the web website.
Speaker 3: We have a website.
Speaker 2: Now there's a placeholder up there. I'm not putting it
out yet, but there's a placeholder. Trying to figure it out.
The conversation had last night over Chinese No I did not,
no smart ass. I had that up before food. He
came in here nice, that's very nice. All right, let's
get out of here. I gotta go see what's happening
in basketball world. You got hockey world to get to,
and I.
Speaker 3: Might stop in tomorrow before I gotta he's gonna be
out here probably okay before, So I might stop in
for the first set for a U for the anniversary.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you do, let's do a little theme
that tune to get Danny back in this swing. Well,
I'm only gonna be here for one set and the
very first, That's what I'm saying. We just do it
right out of the gate, all right. Then we'll go
on with the rest of the show. And if Danny loses,
he'll be pissed the entire show and that'll be fun
for me. For Kevin Mure, the Shipster Supreme, I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 10: See, they were looking to borrow a kind of like
with Tanna see
Speaker 7: California, Baby, things are gotten worth opportunity for