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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, and I think we will start with
Speaker 4: the Cowboys coaching search. As we speak right now, Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore is in a zoom call with the Cowboys. It's
Speaker 4: only allowed to be three hours long. He also has
Speaker 4: an interview with the Jaguars and the Saints once today
Speaker 4: and once tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Do you think that Jerry, because he's so cheap.
Speaker 1: It's the forty minute free zoom and they keep having
Speaker 1: to reset the meeting and they all have to go
Speaker 1: out and then get back in the zoom meeting and
Speaker 1: you end up doing like four or five of them.
Speaker 2: And he was trying to save money.
Speaker 5: The thing I have for sure you start a new one.
Speaker 5: Hold on.
Speaker 1: So I wrote about this today on social media, and uh,
Speaker 1: because I don't write anywhere else, so I just hit
Speaker 1: sent a long article to a place where people have
Speaker 1: short attention spans and more things quickly.
Speaker 5: Did the observers should hire you? I understand.
Speaker 1: So h But I was making some phone calls and
Speaker 1: talking to some people, and I got some good intel
Speaker 1: last night. And I do believe that Kellen is the
Speaker 1: front runner. I think it's his job to lose. I
Speaker 1: don't know that everybody is in complete agreement in the building.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry would love, love, love to explore, you know,
Speaker 1: a big splash, you know, Dion, something like that, something
Speaker 1: with big sizzle or Witten.
Speaker 2: And I do think Witten is the air parent. Sounds
Speaker 2: like he'll be on a staff.
Speaker 1: And we talked yesterday about if it is Kellen Moore man,
Speaker 1: that's a bad situation for him to be in. If
Speaker 1: your heir apparent is already there and already has a job,
Speaker 1: just in waiting to take your job. And I talked
Speaker 1: to somebody who knows Kellen really well and like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you must not know him.
Speaker 5: He would embrace that, he would love that.
Speaker 1: I was like really, and like, dude, he is very confident,
Speaker 1: Like he's not cocky or arrogant, but he's very confident
Speaker 1: in himself and has confidence in his abilities, and he
Speaker 1: would not have any issue.
Speaker 5: He'd embrace witting.
Speaker 1: So, and you also have to look at it like this,
Speaker 1: If they hire a coach that has offensive chops, then
Speaker 1: you can keep some stability with the defense and keep Zimmer.
Speaker 1: But if you hire a defensive coach, now you don't
Speaker 1: have anyone to run the offense and you got to
Speaker 1: start over with the defense. You kind of need both sides.
Speaker 1: So it does make sense that it would be an
Speaker 1: offensive guy. The Joneses love love, love familiarity, Dak, they're
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar man. This would be the best thing
Speaker 1: for him. I know it's not sexy. I know he's
Speaker 1: not a big commanding personality, but maybe for Jerry the
Speaker 1: sizzle would come from actually winning games.
Speaker 4: Well. Well, one thing I'll say, like Kellen, is I
Speaker 4: don't sense that there's a huge ego there Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 4: I told you guys in twenty twenty, Like there's an
Speaker 4: ego with McCarthy, which is fine, but that does not
Speaker 4: work well with Jerry.
Speaker 1: A lot of big egos come from insecurities, and if
Speaker 1: he's if he's pretty secured himself, you know he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. The other thing too, is because there's
Speaker 1: so many people interviewing him. He's gonna get minimum four
Speaker 1: years guaranteed, probably five. Like the age he's at, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to go sign two in three year deals.
Speaker 1: He can go sign Okay, cool, you don't want to
Speaker 1: do a five year deal. I mean, honestly, the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: jobs more appealing.
Speaker 4: May Well, I would disagree with that, but I like
Speaker 4: their quarterback, not really feeling I don't love him.
Speaker 1: I also think that there's like Kellen has deep roots here.
Speaker 1: I guess so many friends here. I really think he'd
Speaker 1: be comfortable here. The order of operations of his exit
Speaker 1: is very important. He was I've a second of audio
Speaker 1: here from the past.
Speaker 5: Uh, he was.
Speaker 4: Told he could stay, he chose to leave, and he
Speaker 4: chose to leave. If you guys remember the day after
Speaker 4: or so that the day he left or after this,
Speaker 4: McCarthy had a press conference and he was asked, we're here,
Speaker 4: Mike Fisher here asking McCarthy a question.
Speaker 6: Could you say it with some clarity that if Kellen
Speaker 6: Moore is available to you, that is to say he
Speaker 6: doesn't get a head coaching job, that he's back as
Speaker 6: your office partner. I know, I wrote, I want to
Speaker 6: play this game. You know today it's been along a
Speaker 6: couple of days, so we Kellen Moore and just like
Speaker 6: the rest of the coaches will be evaluating. You know,
Speaker 6: every coach will be evaluating. So the evaluation just you know,
Speaker 6: it takes more one day.
Speaker 4: The point is everyone knew at the time Kellen had
Speaker 4: a chance to get jobs head coaching jobs, interview for
Speaker 4: those jobs which he didn't get it. One he interviewed
Speaker 4: for I don't even know that even you know, I
Speaker 4: said that, I don't even know that he got a
Speaker 4: bunch of interviews.
Speaker 5: I thought he got at least one.
Speaker 4: It was a remember it being a big topic two
Speaker 4: years ago because it has been reported that Kellen's gonna
Speaker 4: stay and then McCarthy goes to the press conference and
Speaker 4: does that all of our coaches will be I'm not
Speaker 4: playing the game.
Speaker 5: All of our coaches be evaluated.
Speaker 2: I also thought there.
Speaker 5: Was a story at the time that he had an
Speaker 5: interview that didn't go well. Do you not remember that story.
Speaker 5: I don't, but I could. I'm sure we can find it.
Speaker 1: That rings a bell And it's not shocking because he Look,
Speaker 1: if you think about a leader of men, a big,
Speaker 1: bold personality, you're not thinking of Kellen Moore. No, you're
Speaker 1: thinking of Deon Sanders or Jason Witten and Katie you've
Speaker 1: been talking about this.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're misguided in that.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that you know, No, I don't
Speaker 1: know either, but I think it's a good point. We
Speaker 1: have worked at places where there's been a meek leader
Speaker 1: who just looks at his shoes and is so soft spoken,
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I don't understand how anyone could
Speaker 1: ever follow that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: in certainly not jocks and so but maybe, but there
Speaker 1: also there are you don't have to be that big
Speaker 1: commanding personality if you're so successful or such a genius
Speaker 1: or everyone respects something else about you were like damn
Speaker 1: all right, not a big, outgoing personality, but an absolute genius,
Speaker 1: and maybe he could command the team with that, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is the whole thing where you get
Speaker 4: to ask players who know. I mean, Dak has talked
Speaker 4: about there's an interview from a long time ago where
Speaker 4: Dak said Kellen is not what the media thinks he is,
Speaker 4: and I've seen similar things about Dan Campbell or Jared Goff.
Speaker 4: Is like, Oh, Dan Campbell loves that the media thinks
Speaker 4: he's a caveman meathead.
Speaker 5: He's not so like.
Speaker 4: I think it's real easy to get these things up
Speaker 4: the same way McCarthy wore this too. McCarthy's a big
Speaker 4: fat ass, so he must be lazy. Like, No, McCarthy's
Speaker 4: probably not right.
Speaker 5: Like it's.
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious his guys play for him and like
Speaker 1: him absolutely. I mean, that's a long track record of that.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I really don't know. But if
Speaker 4: you're hearing some things, Kellen is so.
Speaker 1: Safe for your for your for Dak and the offense
Speaker 1: and Jerry, to Ben's point, they're good.
Speaker 5: They like going with guys they know, so I like it.
Speaker 4: The other name, though, it's interesting because it has not
Speaker 4: been mentioned, and I think maybe I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: find a name or two that hasn't been.
Speaker 5: Mentioned to see.
Speaker 4: I do think a guy who might fit that gap, coach,
Speaker 4: if you're trying to get a guy who's gonna be
Speaker 4: your head coach for a year or two. Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 4: he's done it. He called plays in Seattle for a
Speaker 4: long time and they always had top ten offense. Okay,
Speaker 4: like it's a lot of running, running the football and stuff.
Speaker 4: But man, Brian Schottenheimer is the name that might need
Speaker 4: to be thrown out there.
Speaker 5: Possibly not a bad name.
Speaker 1: Uh So I stumbled across this last night, and this
Speaker 1: surprised me. So when we started hearing that, Okay, Jerry
Speaker 1: might hire a coach and then have Witten as the
Speaker 1: heir apparent, I don't know in our minds where we're
Speaker 1: thinking two years. We kept throwing around the term two years.
Speaker 1: We were thinking two years, like they're gonna offer a
Speaker 1: short term deal. The person that I was talking to
Speaker 1: last night who's telling me that what they how they
Speaker 1: see it going down, they were like they saw Kellen
Speaker 1: as the head coach and Witten as the tight ends coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Kellen would be keen player, right, But it's like not,
Speaker 1: It's like, so, I don't think it's a guarantee that
Speaker 1: in two years he'd be ready. And what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I think Witten would may be down for the
Speaker 1: long haul in other words, he you know, he may
Speaker 1: want it in four or five years. He might be
Speaker 1: willing to wait it out and work for it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I will also say this, like if if Witton is
Speaker 1: quote unquote waiting to be the head coach of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the guy might come in here and be really successful
Speaker 1: and have it for a long time. And do you
Speaker 1: know what, Jason Witten will not get coaching a small
Speaker 1: Christian high school another NFL job. Like he's got to
Speaker 1: get in his system, Katie, you and I were talking
Speaker 1: about this last week. Dan Campbell was an assistant.
Speaker 4: Coach for a he was twenty ten coaching in turn
Speaker 4: four years is tight ends coach of the Dolphins, then
Speaker 4: interim head coach because they fired again and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy's kind of got something right. And then four
Speaker 4: years with the Saints is tight ends coach and assistant
Speaker 4: head coach to Sean Payton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 1: Got to get in a system and start having ten years, right,
Speaker 1: you know, like if Kellen gets here and suddenly turns
Speaker 1: into Tom Landry, like Witten's never going to coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, Like he's got to get into a
Speaker 1: system and start being part of an NFL structure. Now
Speaker 1: the person one person was explaining this whole scenario to me,
Speaker 1: and he described Jerry as being the wild card to
Speaker 1: everything and that it may be he said, if Witton
Speaker 1: or Dion get in front of Jerry Jones and they
Speaker 1: have an interview, that could be all it takes. Like
Speaker 1: he may be sold. So like, in other words, if
Speaker 1: he sits down there across from Witton and he's given
Speaker 1: him the m yeah, and Dion's given him the sizzle,
Speaker 1: that Jerry may say it's over my guy, and that
Speaker 1: no one could stop him.
Speaker 5: I believe that.
Speaker 1: I guess I had thought that maybe Dion and Jerry
Speaker 1: had already talked, not an official interview, but it at
Speaker 1: least been on the phone.
Speaker 5: But what you're saying makes a hell of a lot
Speaker 5: of sense to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, this is well, this is where like Jerry
Speaker 4: can change everything, but Jerry probably doesn't want to do
Speaker 4: that and put Jason in a bad situation. I do
Speaker 4: think Jerry does think about that. I do think Jerry
Speaker 4: thinks about other people, believe it or not. Like, so
Speaker 4: that's interesting. Now I just saw this, y'all know. Joseph
Speaker 4: Hoyt he works at the Kavana.
Speaker 5: Over on DLS. Yeah, yeah, he just said that.
Speaker 4: Adam Schefter mentioned today on the Paton McAfee show, what
Speaker 4: that the Joneses have high regard for Cowboys O C.
Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer. Just keep it in your back. Wait say
Speaker 5: that again.
Speaker 4: Schefter said on the Pat McAfee show that Brian shotten
Speaker 4: cow the Jones family has high regard for Brian Schottenneimer.
Speaker 5: Who's already been here. Who's who's the cord?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's here right And even though he didn't call plays,
Speaker 1: he would go in there and organize the meeting and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, good run in Seattle.
Speaker 2: That would be familiarity.
Speaker 1: That would be I mean, because keep in mind, they're
Speaker 1: gonna make a decision that's good for their best investment,
Speaker 1: which is their biggest investment, which is DAK. They've got
Speaker 1: a sixty million dollar quarterback. So they're going to do
Speaker 1: something that he that makes it easy for him. Keeping
Speaker 1: the same guy was just here in the building would
Speaker 1: make it easy on him.
Speaker 5: Do you know what? Think about this?
Speaker 1: If you want to hire Witting in a couple of years,
Speaker 1: do you know who you're not like competing against to
Speaker 1: hire someone with a big, expensive contract. Brian Schottenheimer's not
Speaker 1: on a single coaching radar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like he wants to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I'm saying is is, if you want to,
Speaker 1: if you want to, Like, Okay, we're gonna hire witting
Speaker 1: in two years. I wouldn't mind just saving a bunch
Speaker 1: of money. Let's just keep old Zim around. Zim Zim
Speaker 1: will do anything. Shot in heimra doing.
Speaker 5: Man, we can save three million dollars on our coach,
Speaker 5: and I like that.
Speaker 1: They don't value it. No, they don't think it's important.
Speaker 1: Let's save money until we're ready to hire Witney.
Speaker 5: Daddy. We could build so much with that ten million dollars.
Speaker 4: Maybe the best candidate that they had or is Robert Salah,
Speaker 4: and we just kind of discarded that within a day,
Speaker 4: Like that's not real.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he might be the best guy.
Speaker 2: He might be, but I was thinking about him too.
Speaker 1: But you gotta then hire a whole new defensive coaching staff,
Speaker 1: a whole new offensive coaching staff.
Speaker 5: Who is that he's friends at the Shanahan Tree guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah he can find some people. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 5: but they don't want to. They're not gonna do that clearly.
Speaker 2: I mean that offense guys could not get open.
Speaker 4: Now, so what like did they didn't get They didn't
Speaker 4: get open in the Aaron Rodgers days.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you. Me and Christina watched Aaron Rodgers documentary.
Speaker 4: If you have seen some great highlights of Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: throwing into tight windows.
Speaker 5: It's incredible. No one's open in that whole documentary.
Speaker 1: I think McCarthy's a really good coach when he has
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh and and so Christina pointed us out too, Belichick's
Speaker 1: Deal's not done?
Speaker 2: What what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Apparently there was like something, but he didn't actually sign
Speaker 4: the official docun.
Speaker 5: Coaching there.
Speaker 4: But I had a dinner the other night and I
Speaker 4: didn't sign the official tab.
Speaker 5: I just you know, you walked your tab. I walk it.
Speaker 5: I still put my signature on. I still charged you
Speaker 5: a signature. I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, good point.
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