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<v Speaker 3>But right now it's time for this, good listeners, Here

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<v Speaker 3>comes kt fun Tweets with the rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's go around the sports. Kt fun Tweets has

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<v Speaker 1>all the sports.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do, and I think we will start with

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys coaching search. As we speak right now, Kellen

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<v Speaker 4>Moore is in a zoom call with the Cowboys. It's

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<v Speaker 4>only allowed to be three hours long. He also has

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<v Speaker 4>an interview with the Jaguars and the Saints once today

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<v Speaker 4>and once tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that Jerry, because he's so cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the forty minute free zoom and they keep having

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<v Speaker 1>to reset the meeting and they all have to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and then get back in the zoom meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>you end up doing like four or five of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was trying to save money.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing I have for sure you start a new one.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wrote about this today on social media, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't write anywhere else, so I just hit

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<v Speaker 1>sent a long article to a place where people have

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<v Speaker 1>short attention spans and more things quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Did the observers should hire you? I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So h But I was making some phone calls and

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<v Speaker 1>talking to some people, and I got some good intel

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<v Speaker 1>last night. And I do believe that Kellen is the

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<v Speaker 1>front runner. I think it's his job to lose. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that everybody is in complete agreement in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jerry would love, love, love to explore, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a big splash, you know, Dion, something like that, something

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<v Speaker 1>with big sizzle or Witten.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think Witten is the air parent. Sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like he'll be on a staff.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked yesterday about if it is Kellen Moore man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bad situation for him to be in. If

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<v Speaker 1>your heir apparent is already there and already has a job,

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<v Speaker 1>just in waiting to take your job. And I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody who knows Kellen really well and like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you must not know him.

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<v Speaker 5>He would embrace that, he would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like really, and like, dude, he is very confident,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not cocky or arrogant, but he's very confident

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<v Speaker 1>in himself and has confidence in his abilities, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would not have any issue.

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<v Speaker 5>He'd embrace witting.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and you also have to look at it like this,

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<v Speaker 1>If they hire a coach that has offensive chops, then

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<v Speaker 1>you can keep some stability with the defense and keep Zimmer.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you hire a defensive coach, now you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anyone to run the offense and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>start over with the defense. You kind of need both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>So it does make sense that it would be an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive guy. The Joneses love love, love familiarity, Dak, they're

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million dollar man. This would be the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I know it's not sexy. I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a big commanding personality, but maybe for Jerry the

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<v Speaker 1>sizzle would come from actually winning games.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. Well, one thing I'll say, like Kellen, is I

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<v Speaker 4>don't sense that there's a huge ego there Mike McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 4>I told you guys in twenty twenty, Like there's an

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<v Speaker 4>ego with McCarthy, which is fine, but that does not

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<v Speaker 4>work well with Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of big egos come from insecurities, and if

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<v Speaker 1>he's if he's pretty secured himself, you know he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. The other thing too, is because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people interviewing him. He's gonna get minimum four

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<v Speaker 1>years guaranteed, probably five. Like the age he's at, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to go sign two in three year deals.

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<v Speaker 1>He can go sign Okay, cool, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a five year deal. I mean, honestly, the Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>jobs more appealing.

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<v Speaker 4>May Well, I would disagree with that, but I like

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<v Speaker 4>their quarterback, not really feeling I don't love him.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that there's like Kellen has deep roots here.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so many friends here. I really think he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable here. The order of operations of his exit

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<v Speaker 1>is very important. He was I've a second of audio

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<v Speaker 1>here from the past.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, he was.

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<v Speaker 4>Told he could stay, he chose to leave, and he

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<v Speaker 4>chose to leave. If you guys remember the day after

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<v Speaker 4>or so that the day he left or after this,

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<v Speaker 4>McCarthy had a press conference and he was asked, we're here,

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Fisher here asking McCarthy a question.

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<v Speaker 6>Could you say it with some clarity that if Kellen

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<v Speaker 6>Moore is available to you, that is to say he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get a head coaching job, that he's back as

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<v Speaker 6>your office partner. I know, I wrote, I want to

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<v Speaker 6>play this game. You know today it's been along a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of days, so we Kellen Moore and just like

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of the coaches will be evaluating. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>every coach will be evaluating. So the evaluation just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it takes more one day.

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<v Speaker 4>The point is everyone knew at the time Kellen had

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to get jobs head coaching jobs, interview for

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<v Speaker 4>those jobs which he didn't get it. One he interviewed

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<v Speaker 4>for I don't even know that even you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>said that, I don't even know that he got a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of interviews.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he got at least one.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a remember it being a big topic two

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<v Speaker 4>years ago because it has been reported that Kellen's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>stay and then McCarthy goes to the press conference and

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<v Speaker 4>does that all of our coaches will be I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>playing the game.

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<v Speaker 5>All of our coaches be evaluated.

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<v Speaker 2>I also thought there.

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<v Speaker 5>Was a story at the time that he had an

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<v Speaker 5>interview that didn't go well. Do you not remember that story.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, but I could. I'm sure we can find it.

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<v Speaker 1>That rings a bell And it's not shocking because he Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about a leader of men, a big,

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<v Speaker 1>bold personality, you're not thinking of Kellen Moore. No, you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of Deon Sanders or Jason Witten and Katie you've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we're misguided in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know that you know, No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know either, but I think it's a good point. We

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<v Speaker 1>have worked at places where there's been a meek leader

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<v Speaker 1>who just looks at his shoes and is so soft spoken,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, man, I don't understand how anyone could

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<v Speaker 1>ever follow that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>in certainly not jocks and so but maybe, but there

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<v Speaker 1>also there are you don't have to be that big

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<v Speaker 1>commanding personality if you're so successful or such a genius

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<v Speaker 1>or everyone respects something else about you were like damn

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<v Speaker 1>all right, not a big, outgoing personality, but an absolute genius,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe he could command the team with that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And this is the whole thing where you get

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<v Speaker 4>to ask players who know. I mean, Dak has talked

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<v Speaker 4>about there's an interview from a long time ago where

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<v Speaker 4>Dak said Kellen is not what the media thinks he is,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've seen similar things about Dan Campbell or Jared Goff.

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<v Speaker 4>Is like, Oh, Dan Campbell loves that the media thinks

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<v Speaker 4>he's a caveman meathead.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not so like.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's real easy to get these things up

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<v Speaker 4>the same way McCarthy wore this too. McCarthy's a big

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<v Speaker 4>fat ass, so he must be lazy. Like, No, McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 4>probably not right.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty obvious his guys play for him and like

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<v Speaker 1>him absolutely. I mean, that's a long track record of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. I really don't know. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you're hearing some things, Kellen is so.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe for your for your for Dak and the offense

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry, to Ben's point, they're good.

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<v Speaker 5>They like going with guys they know, so I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>The other name, though, it's interesting because it has not

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<v Speaker 4>been mentioned, and I think maybe I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 4>find a name or two that hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 5>Mentioned to see.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think a guy who might fit that gap, coach,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're trying to get a guy who's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>your head coach for a year or two. Brian Schottenheimer,

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<v Speaker 4>he's done it. He called plays in Seattle for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time and they always had top ten offense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a lot of running, running the football and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, Brian Schottenheimer is the name that might need

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<v Speaker 4>to be thrown out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Possibly not a bad name.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So I stumbled across this last night, and this

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me. So when we started hearing that, Okay, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>might hire a coach and then have Witten as the

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<v Speaker 1>heir apparent, I don't know in our minds where we're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking two years. We kept throwing around the term two years.

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<v Speaker 1>We were thinking two years, like they're gonna offer a

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<v Speaker 1>short term deal. The person that I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>last night who's telling me that what they how they

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<v Speaker 1>see it going down, they were like they saw Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>as the head coach and Witten as the tight ends coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Kellen would be keen player, right, But it's like not,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, so, I don't think it's a guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>in two years he'd be ready. And what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is I think Witten would may be down for the

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<v Speaker 1>long haul in other words, he you know, he may

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<v Speaker 1>want it in four or five years. He might be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to wait it out and work for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also say this, like if if Witton is

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote waiting to be the head coach of the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy might come in here and be really successful

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<v Speaker 1>and have it for a long time. And do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Jason Witten will not get coaching a small

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<v Speaker 1>Christian high school another NFL job. Like he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>get in his system, Katie, you and I were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this last week. Dan Campbell was an assistant.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach for a he was twenty ten coaching in turn

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<v Speaker 4>four years is tight ends coach of the Dolphins, then

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<v Speaker 4>interim head coach because they fired again and they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's kind of got something right. And then four

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to get in a system and start having ten years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like if Kellen gets here and suddenly turns

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<v Speaker 1>into Tom Landry, like Witten's never going to coach in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, right, Like he's got to get into a

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<v Speaker 1>the person one person was explaining this whole scenario to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he described Jerry as being the wild card to

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<v Speaker 1>everything and that it may be he said, if Witton

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<v Speaker 1>or Dion get in front of Jerry Jones and they

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<v Speaker 1>have an interview, that could be all it takes. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he may be sold. So like, in other words, if

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<v Speaker 1>he sits down there across from Witton and he's given

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<v Speaker 1>him the m yeah, and Dion's given him the sizzle,

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry may say it's over my guy, and that

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<v Speaker 1>no one could stop him.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I had thought that maybe Dion and Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>But what you're saying makes a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of sense to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, this is well, this is where like Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>can change everything, but Jerry probably doesn't want to do

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<v Speaker 4>that and put Jason in a bad situation. I do

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<v Speaker 4>think Jerry does think about that. I do think Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>thinks about other people, believe it or not. Like, so

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<v Speaker 4>that's interesting. Now I just saw this, y'all know. Joseph

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<v Speaker 5>Over on DLS. Yeah, yeah, he just said that.

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<v Speaker 4>Adam Schefter mentioned today on the Paton McAfee show, what

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<v Speaker 4>that the Joneses have high regard for Cowboys O C.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian Schottenheimer. Just keep it in your back. Wait say

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<v Speaker 5>that again.

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<v Speaker 4>Schefter said on the Pat McAfee show that Brian shotten

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<v Speaker 5>Who's already been here. Who's who's the cord?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's here right And even though he didn't call plays,

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<v Speaker 1>he would go in there and organize the meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, good run in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be familiarity.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be I mean, because keep in mind, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a decision that's good for their best investment,

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<v Speaker 1>which is their biggest investment, which is DAK. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty million dollar quarterback. So they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>something that he that makes it easy for him. Keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy was just here in the building would

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<v Speaker 1>make it easy on him.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what? Think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to hire Witting in a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who you're not like competing against to

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<v Speaker 1>hire someone with a big, expensive contract. Brian Schottenheimer's not

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<v Speaker 1>on a single coaching radar.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like he wants to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But what I'm saying is is, if you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, Like, Okay, we're gonna hire witting

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<v Speaker 1>in two years. I wouldn't mind just saving a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money. Let's just keep old Zim around. Zim Zim

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<v Speaker 1>will do anything. Shot in heimra doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, we can save three million dollars on our coach,

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<v Speaker 5>and I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't value it. No, they don't think it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's save money until we're ready to hire Witney.

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<v Speaker 5>Daddy. We could build so much with that ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the best candidate that they had or is Robert Salah,

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<v Speaker 4>and we just kind of discarded that within a day,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's not real.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he might be the best guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He might be, but I was thinking about him too.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta then hire a whole new defensive coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new offensive coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 5>Who is that he's friends at the Shanahan Tree guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah he can find some people. Yeah, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 5>but they don't want to. They're not gonna do that clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that offense guys could not get open.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, so what like did they didn't get They didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get open in the Aaron Rodgers days.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you. Me and Christina watched Aaron Rodgers documentary.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have seen some great highlights of Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 4>throwing into tight windows.

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<v Speaker 5>It's incredible. No one's open in that whole documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I think McCarthy's a really good coach when he has

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers in his prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and and so Christina pointed us out too, Belichick's

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<v Speaker 1>Deal's not done?

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<v Speaker 2>What what is that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently there was like something, but he didn't actually sign

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<v Speaker 4>the official docun.

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<v Speaker 5>Coaching there.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had a dinner the other night and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't sign the official tab.

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<v Speaker 5>I just you know, you walked your tab. I walk it.

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<v Speaker 5>I still put my signature on. I still charged you

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<v Speaker 5>a signature. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good point.

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<v Speaker 1>There you have at the latest on the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching search from your favorite rock station. Come up next,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the weekly weekday update. Where are you gonna take us?

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin cold Weather coming? And also, the Supreme Court made

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<v Speaker 1>a big decision today which