WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:10.679 s e O and JP Sorrow. He's a lapsed fan 3 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.679 and all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:22.320 I never seen anything and it's the laps fan man 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.039 like the one in the ring. Forget about Sado. He 6 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:26.160 the real king of swing. 7 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:26.960 When the bell. 8 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.000 Goes in the kick like me throwing in the corner, 9 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:31.519 but gets rash like stick. 10 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.600 Even Jerry King gets take off the crowd nodded in 11 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:36.399 his head like its Steve low Brown. 12 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:39.079 Would you get low down? We go even high up? 13 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.439 Flipp you on your head, But you know cool driver, 14 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.960 you speak more and dragon spits fire give you more 15 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.840 shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth 16 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:48.200 than the. 17 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.280 Con of sniper unless you with a coconut. 18 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.039 Roddy Pipper Jack a JP he like j h D 19 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.119 drop the cupcakes and gold the brain Bob means the 20 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.920 best podcast Frost start the close cloud if you all 21 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.439 be it's a flassic a pose. 22 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:04.159 Back in that Colosseum collection tip Boss. 23 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:09.920 Oh yes, I do very much enjoy enjoy putting my 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.719 hands between the two pillars of the colosseum and bringing 25 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:15.560 everything down. 26 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.640 After all that time speculating on the crackle of Saboo's bones. 27 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.439 After we went through tables and RTLF tribute to Saboo, 28 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.040 maybe it's time now to get back to the crackle 29 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.319 that matters. The crackle you hear when you put a 30 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.280 VHS in the fun Yeah, well, yeah, there's Nellie at 31 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:32.920 the end. But I understand where you go inside. It's 32 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.359 nothing like a Colosseum home video to put you right 33 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.120 back to center. You put you right back where you 34 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:41.840 ought to be and getting back in touch with why 35 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:42.359 it used. 36 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:42.640 To be better. 37 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.599 And this time it's the WWF's explosive TNT Show. 38 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.879 I don't even know where to begin with this fucking thing. 39 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:51.159 I mean, I invite you to try. 40 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.879 I mean, this is it's one of the ones where 41 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.560 I'm you know, it's it's one of the videos I 42 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.280 redded only because of the fact that how do I 43 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.280 how do I break this down? You know, because I'm like, 44 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.360 I know what the format of TNT is, and I 45 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.800 think the TNT show is is quite fantastic, but how 46 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:16.240 do you format this, you know, uh, for our show 47 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:18.960 and to make it work in that in that regard, 48 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.719 And that's the main reason why I was dreading it, 49 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:24.759 and then I watch it and it's like, this is 50 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:26.759 one of the most absurd things I've ever seen in 51 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:27.120 my life. 52 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.400 I mean, tell tell us why it is. I mean, 53 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.000 the the the places it goes, yes, are are just 54 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.240 I mean, it's it's Susian, it is. 55 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.639 It is. It's it's honestly, it's like it's like Doctor Seuss, 56 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.800 you know, meeting Hunter S. Thompson. Right, you know that's 57 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.280 what this is, you know, Yeah, fear and loathing in 58 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.560 Suss in SEUs Land or whatever. Right, And because it's 59 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:01.879 just it, I wonder to myself, how how did people, like, 60 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:07.599 how did people watch this and still watch wrestling? 61 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.280 Well, that's just the thing. They really weren't. Yeah, I 62 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.319 mean I guess, I mean sure, surely hardcore wrestling fans 63 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:15.520 watch Tuesday Night Titans. 64 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:16.120 Yeah. 65 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.439 It seems pretty clear that this show, which for a 66 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:20.520 time was the number one show in USA Network, which 67 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.159 was one of the top cable networks in the United States, 68 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.479 such as it existed in nineteen eighty four and eighty five, 69 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:28.879 you know, much more limited penetration than what we thought 70 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.039 of as cable during the Golden years, so you know, 71 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:34.919 the Hasbro years, but still got a lot of people 72 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.479 looking at wrestling that otherwise wouldn't have just stopped on 73 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.520 the channel if it was matches, you know, from the 74 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.479 garden with you know, poorly lit crowds and all that. 75 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.599 And you know, as we'll get to no less than 76 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.759 Dick eversoll, according to the Sex, Lies and Headlocks book 77 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.159 was turned on to you know, the wwf Irony pastiche 78 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.719 by watching Tuesday Night Titans. Of course he's got his 79 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.639 finger on the pulse at NBC as far as what's 80 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.560 what's working on cable, you know, because he's also the 81 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.319 Friday Night Videos guy and watching him the MTV development 82 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:05.360 very closely. So this this show, this TNT show played 83 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.599 no small part in what led to Saturday Nights Made 84 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:12.240 event and then all of the explosive ramifications of that, 85 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.719 as we've talked about most recently, of course, when we 86 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.040 covered the very first Saturday Night's Made event earlier this year. Yeah, 87 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.079 but it's a hell of a way to get at TNT. 88 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.120 And to your point, it's such a fascinating little thing 89 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.720 they did, and what it really is, if we're honest, 90 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.839 is a deep psychological sketch of Vince mcmah Oh. 91 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.839 My God is it ever. I mean, it goes into 92 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:37.279 places I just I mean, namely, really that last segment, 93 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.480 that last segment is without a doubt. You know, when 94 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:48.759 you consider nineteen eighties WWE, you know, LJN Era, and 95 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:54.800 they're talking about sex like, not even in hidden terms, 96 00:04:55.079 --> 00:05:00.160 just openly talking about sex in this mating game like 97 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:06.199 not even the dating mating game sketch is just surreal. 98 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.160 You've got Jim Knighthart and Brett Hart back when Brett 99 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.399 was still like so bashful about promos that he always 100 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:16.160 had his sunglasses on and very young guy at the time. 101 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.360 In a slight defense, they all had their sunglasses on 102 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:18.879 for this one. 103 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:19.439 I wonder why. 104 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:20.199 Yeah. 105 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.040 See, I mean, Brett's got the coke jaw. I'm not 106 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.680 afraid to say it, He's got lockjaw when he's trying 107 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.120 to deliver these lines oh yeah, and talk about oh yeah. 108 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:30.399 The Mating Game Boss. 109 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:37.600 Just bizarre. I mean it was, I mean, I you know, 110 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.920 one of the ones that what I guess is really 111 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.000 impressive too, is that for the most part, all this stuff, 112 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.800 for the most part, there's surely some repeats that we've 113 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.279 seen on previous video cassettes, and I know, We specifically 114 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:56.680 did the the Piper Christmas Carol thing for from All 115 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.759 American Wrestling when we did that Christmas episode of that, 116 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.240 but everything else like there are no there are really 117 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:08.800 no repeats outside of that and the the We've seen 118 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:13.000 some of the Morocco Fuji stuff, yes, in the past, 119 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:18.759 but my god, it is I was. I was speechless, 120 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.439 honestly at like, you know, I mean, you know, I 121 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.839 try to pull I try to pull bites, and it's like, 122 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:25.959 how can I pull bites? I get to pull the 123 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.279 whole fucking segment for some of these things. I mean, 124 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.879 because there isn't just one There isn't just one thing. 125 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.959 It's like we've got this entire this, this entire sketch 126 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.720 skit whatever, that is just ludicrous. 127 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.319 I'll spring it on you now. Watching this preparing for 128 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.160 this episode, I'm like, we have there. There might just 129 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.639 be a Tuesday I think there just might be a 130 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.800 Tuesday Night special for TLF listeners in the New York 131 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:51.680 Few have to be, might have to be because this 132 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.000 has Honestly, if we're gonna if we're gonna figure out Vince, 133 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.639 I mean, he's behind that desk playing Johnny Carson all 134 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:58.680 of the skits or things he would find funny. He's 135 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.360 there reacting in real time and cackling at the things 136 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.000 he thinks should be the beats where people laugh, which 137 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:05.879 nine times out of ten is not when the normal 138 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.600 human being would laugh. And his word choice is there, 139 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:14.800 his verbosity, his foolishness, his way over the top dress 140 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:20.199 like white dress, shoes with incredibly baggy pants. SHAWNA. Sale 141 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.439 put it well, he said he looked like a guy 142 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.319 who was being fitted for a suit for the first time. Yes, 143 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.000 that's how he wore the suit back then. But this 144 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:32.439 was Vince. This is Vince unleashed. Yeah, in this corner 145 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:36.839 of television on cables. He's now consolidated his control. His 146 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.560 father's passed away, and he can do whatever he wants 147 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.160 with these over the top gimmicks that he's got the 148 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.600 cash to pay. And my god, does he make them 149 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.399 do so many things? Make them is you know? I'm 150 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.279 sure they were glad to participate, but it was just 151 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.480 such an unusual skin for a pro wrestler to wear, 152 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:54.639 especially a locker room full of guys who had made 153 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.000 oh yeah, you know, gotten over to the max degree 154 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:00.480 in all of the traditional territories and never called upon 155 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.519 to do anything like this. Really we get Morocco, we 156 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.439 get Fuji Vice on this tape. 157 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.879 Do we not? We get we get Fuji Vice. We 158 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.920 also get I mean all the segments are just biz. 159 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.519 Like you know, you see the Western you see, which 160 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.519 is I thought was kind of fitting, you know, giving 161 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:22.240 me this touch on on on westerns and uh, the 162 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.759 soap opera sketch and like I just was, this is 163 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:32.000 so busy and like Morocco of all people, and and 164 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:41.360 the going to Hollywood, and like I, I, you know 165 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:46.000 when when what what I guess was also very bizarre. 166 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.440 Is I'm looking at it from being a viewer, and 167 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.080 I think of, you know, during our you know, during 168 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.919 like the attitude or even even beforehand, you know, you 169 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.960 were aware, you were aware of like the idea that 170 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.159 there's a camera everywhere, right, and the idea that cameras 171 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:06.559 are catching things behind the scenes. And so I appreciate 172 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.120 the idea that yes, they're they're they're trying to get 173 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.759 you know, they're following Morocco and Fuji, but it's done 174 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:20.399 more like you know, the the hidden camera version of 175 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.879 w W, like from I mean honestly up till now, 176 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:29.360 really where they're you're watching filmed things as if you know, 177 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.120 the camera's not there, you know, like you're watching a movie. 178 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.080 Right, that's a fuji pvice is it's them trying? 179 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.919 Yeah right, well, I mean but even like going to 180 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.000 Hollywood and stuff like that, whole thing is like it's 181 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.039 not done in a way like here, let's you know, 182 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:44.759 let's oh, here they are, we're gonna find them. Let's 183 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.559 let's get this footage should we get to It's more 184 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.519 like here, we're gonna set up a shot and we're 185 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:53.480 gonna watch them scheme to get into this, into this studio. Yes, 186 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.360 you know. It's like it's not like if that were 187 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.919 if you were catching somebody do that, you wouldn't catch 188 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.720 them saying those words. You know, they'd be like you, like, 189 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.799 can you get away? Please? Just say you know, but 190 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.240 it's done in this Yeah, I don't know, I'm making 191 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:07.720 no sense. It's just a lot of well. 192 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.120 They're figuring out their sense of perspective, like when Vince 193 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:12.679 with a mic needs to be there and not Vince 194 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.720 is certainly there with a mic at the big ass 195 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.600 fucking Dory funk Brisket site. 196 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.759 Which we oh, you're damn fucking right, he is took 197 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:19.080 a good. 198 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.120 Look at during the Lapsed Funk because while Terry Funk 199 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:23.559 doesn't feature in that segment, it's him and it's story 200 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.720 and Jimmy Jack or Hossfunk as Dory was called. Of 201 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.120 course at the time, it was definitely part and parcel 202 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.080 of what they wanted you to think the Funks were. 203 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.320 And for Vince it was all caricature. You know, these 204 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:35.039 guys had like real backgrounds in real histories. You know, 205 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.159 Don Morocco really is from Hawaii and he it really 206 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.080 is a serfhead. But my god, like does he over 207 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.879 does Vince just take that and make it an absolute, 208 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.120 over the top, overwhelming characteristic of a guy who was, 209 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.679 you know, a multifaceted wrestling performer, to say nothing of 210 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.000 Dory Funk Junior, a former n WA World Champion, one 211 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.039 of the preest wrestling stars the country had produced in 212 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.519 the seventies, and he's just reduced to like wearing a 213 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.639 you know, essentially a dunce cap. 214 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:03.480 He's right, and and and basically just a barbecue. 215 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.399 I understand that. And you got Vince making all that 216 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.759 that's why we have to do this' well, you know, 217 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.919 I'm not actually from Texas. All my exes are. However, 218 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.799 so you talk about serendipity in terms of that Western theme, 219 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.159 what about the serendipity that is we reach WWF's most 220 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.639 explosive tn T show in our Colosseum collection, which, for 221 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:32.000 the uninitiated is our mission to watch every single WWF 222 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.679 Colosseum home video release in order an occasional series. It's 223 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.559 not like we're not going to stop until but it's 224 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.240 definitely something that we love to pop our heads back 225 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:43.240 in on when we need a little cleanse. And and 226 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:45.840 so what what are the fact that we reached this tape? 227 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.879 Just as Netflix announces it's developing a scripted wrestling drama 228 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:53.960 called Tuesday Night Titans. I'm sure it'll be great. I'm 229 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.039 sure wrestling fans will love it. 230 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.159 I'm sure yes. And that's all we want, you know, 231 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.120 And that's all what we What the w needs for sure, 232 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.639 and what wrestling fans need is more product. 233 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.200 The executive produced by Michael Noteoreli, who was formerly a 234 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:11.799 writer on Raw apparently along with John. 235 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.679 That alone is that alone is fucking It's just nauseating 236 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.559 that he's a writer on Raw, even to this day, 237 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.600 even though it's been twenty years, more than twenty years 238 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:26.519 that they've had writers. It's like, fuck me, I know. 239 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.879 I can't get used to calling them writers. I really can't. 240 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:32.559 This article says, well, the show shares the name of 241 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.360 wwwe's talk variety show from the mid nineteen eighties. The 242 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:38.120 report notes from Deadline that the new series has no 243 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:41.279 connection to that project. Yeah, well this does this will. 244 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:45.759 It's so funny that Nitro ended up on TNT. And 245 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.399 like you see, t the first time wrestling fans were 246 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:53.399 encountered with TNT was Vince's fucking Crazy Fever Dreams right 247 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.080 here we are. But yeah, looking forward to that. And 248 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.480 we take a look at the video jacket as we're 249 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:03.720 wont to do on these Colisseum home video releases, and 250 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.440 it's kind of a beauty. It's got like it's got 251 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.639 almost this militaristic type face. The TNT is almost in 252 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.360 the fashion of, like, I don't know, platoon or something. 253 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:13.960 It makes me think of warfare. 254 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.200 Well, that's kind of I mean, yeah, you think of that, 255 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.879 You think of that stenciling on a on a on 256 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.080 a on a crate, on a wooden crate. 257 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.559 With a bit of a like a bomb, and it 258 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.600 says explosive across it. This must have been a very 259 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.279 strange tape to an encounter at the video store. Now 260 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:35.480 it's like, what the hell is a TNT show? These matches? 261 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.639 Like, are they bombing people? I don't understand what's going 262 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:39.919 on there? Are they bombing people or what? 263 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:42.519 Also to me kind of a sign that they're running 264 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.200 dry on ideas for videotapes. You know, it's like, we 265 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:46.360 got all this stuff we did for. 266 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.440 T they're not yet. They're actually in a way it 267 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.120 actually kind of looks like like raw. Actually it does. 268 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.759 It looks like I think we just found yeahs war, Yeah, 269 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:59.080 right right, this is the exact typeface in ras War. 270 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.320 That's a great catch. We can now we can now 271 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.200 take credit as having discovered that connection. Look at that 272 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.120 yep as it reads your favorite WWF stars in and 273 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:08.919 out of the ring, So an emphasis in the fact 274 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:10.200 that you're gonna get But if you pick up a 275 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.879 wrestling VHSDA been eighty five at your video store and 276 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.720 on the back it says Roddy Evanezer Piper, the ultimate Scrooge. Like, 277 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.120 what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I don't 278 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.679 know if it attracts me or detracts me. It's fine. 279 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.120 I don't understand. I get it. You don't get it. 280 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:25.279 I get it. Everyone got it. 281 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.240 Captain Loui Albano and George the Animal Steel prepare Christmas 282 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:32.759 goodies as we watch Loue Albano smash together all manner 283 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:33.399 of ingredients. 284 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:38.720 I mean, I mean it's it's what you expect, and 285 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.559 more of of fucking Captain lou Albino. 286 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:48.639 A couple of secks. He's like in full how. 287 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.240 About particular be very sanitary. We're gonna have sanitary plates. 288 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.559 We gotta make sure we clean everything up. I'll put 289 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.080 my cigar, I'll put it out on the counter top 290 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:57.080 and it be very very clean. 291 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:01.440 Absolutely, they got Fujivice, they got Fuji General, they got 292 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.720 Fuji and Morocco storm in the Gates of Hollywood. They 293 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:04.919 got the Heart Foundation trying to. 294 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:08.799 Work, which is hilarious, you know, by the way, I mean, 295 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.639 I don't know what it was like back then. But 296 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:15.559 like the fact that they go to Raleigh Studios, which 297 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.120 is a real place, that's a real studio in la 298 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:27.879 but it's not it's it's not a studio studio, it's 299 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:32.840 it's it's a facility. Like they rent out facility space. 300 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.360 It's not a movie studio. 301 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:38.639 Big fans of facilities pal eh. 302 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.519 You know, Like I mean maybe it was back in 303 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.519 the day, but from my experience, it's just like it's 304 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.080 it's it's a rental space for stuff like that's where 305 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:51.519 people go, like you'll you'll you'll see it on a 306 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.320 movie filmed at Raleigh Studios. You know this movie you know, 307 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.639 partially film that Raleigh Studios were, you know, because they'll 308 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.919 weren't just stayed, they'll build a set and that's where 309 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.120 it'll be. It's it's not a movie it's not a 310 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:05.720 place you go where you try to get a movie made. 311 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:11.399 It's not paramount like it's not a full run movie 312 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.360 studio that is that is producing work. 313 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:13.759 They are. 314 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.679 They are literally studio space, right And so to me, 315 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:20.240 I mean, I don't know if they knew that, or 316 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.039 if they if they did that on purpose or what, 317 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.320 but I was just like, this is bizarre a choice 318 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.919 like to make people try to I mean, maybe that's 319 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.080 what it is. Maybe maybe they were doing it as 320 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.600 a joke in the fact that you know, they've gone 321 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.200 to all the other studios and you know, but I 322 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:41.240 can't imagine that people outside of La know that about 323 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.840 Roley Studios, like they might think it's a it's a 324 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.960 it's a small time movie studio restaurant. 325 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.120 You know, they can make it whatever they want, right 326 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:51.279 And Morocco said, you know, basically, they would have him 327 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.200 booked in a town he's working Hogan at this point 328 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.639 in time against him in a city, and then they 329 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.679 try to find out, you know, some location that they 330 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.679 could shoot in that city that would fit this series 331 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.399 of they did with him and mister Fuji Fuji Vice, 332 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.480 which features prominently on this tape, was shot in Ocean City, Maryland, 333 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.240 not far from I think it was Owning's Mills or 334 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:11.799 something where they had the tant studio. 335 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.400 I was gonna say, it's definitely I can tell that 336 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:15.720 it is not Miami. 337 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.880 No, No, definitely not Miami. There's nothing more. There's nothing 338 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.519 more WWF under Vince than just like pretending the Northeast 339 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.400 is anywhere in the country, like having Hulk Hogan pose 340 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.519 with his corvette, the Venice Beach guy with his you know, 341 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.319 slaveless tan and there's snow on the ground behind him. 342 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:34.599 Because he did it at the at the house in 343 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:39.759 Stanford that he bought so tremendous. Vince also features on 344 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.519 the back cover as part of his MC duties and 345 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.839 presenting this as your life to Nikolai Volkoff. This is 346 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.000 the predecessor to the rock mcfoley. This is your life. 347 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.480 Yeah, yeah it is, that's for sure. 348 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.960 It's where the raw material came from. So Bobby Heenan 349 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.559 features on it as well. There's a it's just such 350 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.559 a strange odds and that thing to attack here. So 351 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:00.559 we're gonna a lot of fun. 352 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:05.039 Oh it is. It is very much a bizarre, a 353 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.079 bizarre thing to attack. 354 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.559 As we've talked about. Of course, the WWF Colosseum video 355 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.960 releases came in groups of threes. One was always a 356 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.759 profile of a wrestler, another was best of WWF series 357 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:16.640 of matches, and another was a themed show, this of 358 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.359 course being the theme tape tape number twenty five in 359 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.079 the collection. To come with the profile video and coming 360 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.519 up next on the Colisseum collection here at TLF is 361 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.640 the mantra Man Ready Savage and Elizabeth looking forward to 362 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.880 that one and best of the WWF Volume eight. So 363 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.519 let us lean in if you will to TNT. Let 364 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.240 us feel inspired as Vince was to do some of 365 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.319 these zany and unconventional things. We start with a passage 366 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.400 from the aforementioned sex lies and headlocks. Since his early 367 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.480 days imitating Howard Cosell under his father's watchful eyes in Washington, 368 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:53.240 Vinnie had developed an easy manner on television. On one level, 369 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.640 his job was simply to feed his wrestler's straight lines 370 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.559 and let them react, thereby setting up the plot and 371 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:00.200 foreshadowing the action. But that's like saying all Johnny Carson 372 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.079 had to do his talk. Vince had to sell their answers, 373 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:05.000 and he did it better than anyone. The man who'd 374 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:06.680 wanted to be a wrestler since he was twelve had 375 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.079 an obvious affection for his muscle bound performers, and it 376 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.640 came through on screen. He dug trenches in the studio 377 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:13.920 so his six foot three frame wouldn't tower over his 378 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.759 shorter entertainers, and he always played the straight man so 379 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:20.119 as never to steal their laughs, imitating his father's decorum. 380 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:21.640 See that's where he gets it from. He's trying to 381 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.680 imitate his dad using these words, and ah, being as 382 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.680 verbose as he is that notwithstanding, nonetheless, well, and then 383 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:28.240 from there. 384 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:31.599 Well, then, from Mary know, we we take things from 385 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.480 a physical nature, and I proceed with a you know, 386 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:45.720 a monosyllable pronunciation of an emotional and quite frankly, an 387 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.200 excitable standing. 388 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.519 And so, mister McMahon, what happened next between you and 389 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.960 missus Grant imitating you know? 390 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.920 I mean, these are things that, you know, if we're 391 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:03.960 looking at the various activities that two people partake during 392 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:09.519 during a piece of intimacy, we have to look at 393 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:13.079 things from a very from a global standpoint, in terms 394 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:17.359 of what is acceptable in regards to a global, you know, 395 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.640 a global gender audience. 396 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:26.640 Imitating his father's to he dressed, this deposition's going nowhere, 397 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:32.039 This attorney, this attorney's getting nothing out of this, imitating 398 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.200 his father's decrem He dressed in suits with vests in 399 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.119 nineteen twenty style callers, always keeping an iron hanky in 400 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.400 his breast pocket with his deep He's a full display 401 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:42.680 on this tape in that regard. 402 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.960 My dad was a very snappy dresser. He understood what 403 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:49.400 class was. And I believe that these are opportunities for 404 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:54.000 people of a varying degrees of financial success to be 405 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:59.359 able to portray the possibility of a class and nature. 406 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:02.519 Cody's like, maybe if I dress like Vince Senior, Vince 407 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:07.200 Junior will love me. Maybe if I run a chain 408 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.720 from the center of my suit to the pocket. Maybe 409 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.599 if I get a pocket watch, get him a bunch 410 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:13.200 of quarters. 411 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:14.400 Oh my god. 412 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.319 With his deep voice doing there, cleft chin and wide, 413 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:20.079 stocky frame, he almost looked like a comic book character himself, 414 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:21.400 the twenties banker. 415 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:21.920 I like that. 416 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.119 The twenties banker is what he says. Vince's dress is like, 417 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.640 or the Vaudeville MC and there's a lot of this 418 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.240 venue on television. Every three weeks, the company filmed the 419 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.839 day's worth of wrestling matches at an old agricultural hall 420 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.279 at the Fairgrounds in Allentown, Pennsylvania, creating three hour long 421 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.920 installments of Championship Wrestling, the flagship show that he sold 422 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.200 in syndication. Then the troop would pack up and drive 423 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.640 to a small arena thirty miles away in Hamburg, where 424 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:46.240 more matches were shot, creating a second syndicated show called 425 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.559 All Star Wrestling. For a third show for markets with 426 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.519 an insatiable appetite, he takes scraps from the Allentown and 427 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:54.640 Hamburg sessions or re edit them with new voiceovers and 428 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.279 sell them as superstars of wrestling. His fourth hour of 429 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.279 weekly television was All American Wrestling in USA, and because 430 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.559 Nielson had just begun monitoring cable viewership, it became k Koplovitz, 431 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.799 who was the head of USA. Her first measurable ratings 432 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.920 hit All American Wrestling. 433 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:08.279 That's right. 434 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:10.680 We even looked at the nineteen eighty three premiere of 435 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.480 All American Wrestling when we did Black Saturday. Yes, and 436 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.599 how those early All Americans talked about other territories, you know, 437 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:21.200 in deferential terms, and featured watches from other territories, easily 438 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.759 outdoing Robert Klein and Don Adams. Knowing a good thing 439 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:25.720 when she saw it, cople of Ittz asked Vince if 440 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:27.440 he wanted to fill an hour long hole in her 441 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:33.400 Tuesday lineup as well? He knows how to fill Kplovitz's holes. 442 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:34.559 We made that very clear. 443 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.319 I understand that there are holes that may be filled, 444 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.400 and I believe I have the tools and the resources 445 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:41.599 to fill said holes. 446 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:43.799 Very good. He had no idea what to do with 447 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:45.599 it until he was out to dinner one evening with 448 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.480 a director named Nelson Sweglar, who suggested, why do you 449 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.480 do a talk show Tuesday Night Titans? Thank god TNT 450 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.720 Vince's you know you can tell shawna Sale talk to 451 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.960 Nelson Swegler. He gets credited with enough, oh of course, 452 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.240 but he you know, he did. He was like one 453 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.759 of the big producers and he was representing WWF at 454 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:05.599 like the NAPTI Television Convention and stuff. He was kind 455 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.799 of like Vince's straight man executive CEO type out there 456 00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:12.960 working it. So he suggested this Tuesday Night Titans or 457 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:17.119 TNT's Vince's fifth program. A Sale Rights was a radical 458 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.559 departure for the WWF and wrestling in general. From a 459 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.200 shoestring set with a boxy black and white skyline behind 460 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.799 the talk show desk, he interviewed in paryed of wrestlers 461 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.359 as if they all lived like this, as if they 462 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.319 all lived in some parallel universe where everyone walked around 463 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.960 in colored trunks, arab head dresses, pink leisure suits, tribal feathers, 464 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:34.880 and army fatigues. 465 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:39.400 Yep, yeah, they show up in gimmick exactly. That's that's 466 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.599 part of it, is that they show up in gimmick. 467 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.599 And just you know, sit for an interview like you 468 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.559 had at Carson right, or a sidekick. He chose a 469 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.240 diminutive British wrestler named Lord Alfred Hayes who dressed in 470 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.720 tuxedos and spoke with masterpiece theater diction. How about when 471 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.839 they almost lynch Al Hayes in Texas? Oh my god 472 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:58.200 and some little much guys. 473 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:02.480 And then when he falls like there was a like 474 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:05.119 that was not there was an accident that was real. Yeah, 475 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.319 he tripped over a fence behind him. Yeah, and he 476 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.119 just collapsed, and you know, you got to keep on going. 477 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:11.160 Come on, come on, come on. 478 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.920 Real sometimes is the greatest fake. 479 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:24.680 Put that on a shirt. Because the wrestlers would never leave. 480 00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.640 Character TNT became a running improv built around sight gags 481 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:29.680 and skits. Once a week, Vince would fly in from 482 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:31.880 New York to a small studio in Baltimore that looked 483 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.279 like a loading dock and spend the afternoon filming the 484 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.000 two hour show. I for one, am pretty obsessed with 485 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.640 Vince's routine to film. You know, he got on the plate. 486 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:42.799 What did he eat at home? He leaves greenwich in 487 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:43.200 the limo. 488 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.039 He want to know what he does? All right, I 489 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:47.480 want to know what he doesn't. Yes, I want to 490 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:48.720 know what he does on the private plane. 491 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:50.519 You know, he's got his glasses at the tip of 492 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:55.559 his nose on the plane, making notes, penciling things in Yep. Oh, 493 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:56.960 it's just. 494 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:01.279 Every I mean every minute, you know, yeah, every moment 495 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.799 from I mean, we know he doesn't really sleep much, 496 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:06.880 but from the moment he wakes up to get this 497 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.519 day started. Ugh, I need to know the whole thing 498 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:15.880 from morning till. You know, I assume he flies back 499 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.319 that same night. I assume he's not staying over. 500 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:20.160 Yeah, I assume that's correct. 501 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:20.400 Yeah. 502 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.400 For as, it was much miles as the wrestlers had 503 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.160 to put in criss crossing the country as they tried 504 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.079 to take advantage of the fact that every major media 505 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.440 market in the United States suddenly wanted ww F in 506 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:31.119 the nineteen eighties mid nineteen eighties, and you know, they 507 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.279 were just gonna send wrestlers wherever the fuck they felt 508 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.000 there was demand. They could give a shit about what 509 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.319 it was, what it was doing logistically to these guys. 510 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.519 Vince was on his you know, a little four hour 511 00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:42.200 jaunts right between his little absolutely he had a nice 512 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.680 little cushy deal there, and I just love the thought 513 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.680 that while we were all, you know, obsessing over whole 514 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:48.680 Camania and the matches and who's gonna win and who's 515 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.079 punching in the face, Vince is in a TV studio 516 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.680 in Baltimore at Tuesday morning at ten am, shooting this 517 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.359 thing like what yes fuck yes. Dick ever Saw was 518 00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.920 at a crossroads a sale rights when he asked Vince 519 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.240 was trump plaws a penthouse apartment for a meeting. He 520 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.519 just finished a second tour at Saturday Night Live, the 521 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.960 show he'd helped create, during which he assembled a cast 522 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.160 that included Eddie Murphy, Billy Crystal, Julia, Luis Dreyfuss, and 523 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.480 Martin Short. Now he was looking for something that would 524 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:13.960 let him spend more time at home with his wife, 525 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.680 the actress Susan Saint James, and their newborn son. Eber 526 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:21.279 Saw liked Tuesday Night Titans. Of course he did, because 527 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.440 he thought it shared many of the same elements as SNL, 528 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:24.799 namely the improv. 529 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.680 Oh okay, all right, well oh oh what is okay? 530 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.039 So I just want you to know, I think this 531 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.680 thing is just terrific. It's it fits the zeitgeist. 532 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.880 Would oh you know. 533 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.640 What I was, Vince is looking at a dictionary under 534 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:39.559 the table, try to look up. 535 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.200 I was, I was. This is the exact verbiage that 536 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.839 I told everybody at titaned hours. I said, zeitgeist. This 537 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.559 is the zeitgeist. Right, that's how you say it, right, right, 538 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:56.240 it's it's right. That's whatever it is. I know it is. 539 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:57.680 He's a nice sweater, by the way. 540 00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.519 I listen, love, I'm a big fan. I love the 541 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:03.759 sweater with the I'm going to try that actually soon, 542 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.160 I'm going to do the sweater with the collared shirt underneath. 543 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.759 I think it's a very cowboy it's a very modern. Look. Yep, 544 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:11.559 I'm a big fan of the cowboy boots. What else 545 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:11.960 do you wear? 546 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.000 Awesome? He's just falling all over himself, I mean, just 547 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:20.920 making an absolute ass of himself. 548 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.440 Do you do you do you? Is it common for 549 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.039 men to get an erection when they're around you? Right? 550 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.400 Do you know this? I mean I don't. I don't normally. 551 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.799 You know that. I don't normally get aroused by a man. 552 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.960 But your ideas are very they they arouse. 553 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.640 Another T shirt. Your ideas they arouse. Hey, Look, it's 554 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.200 just Vince being creative. It's just Vince architecting this entire 555 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.680 thing that we're all leeching off of, you know, namely 556 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.160 the improv the sight gags, and they're running sketches. 557 00:27:55.559 --> 00:28:00.319 Yes, sketches, write that down. Yes, we definitely do. We sketch. 558 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:01.799 We sketch quite a bit, one of. 559 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:03.680 The things, Dick, you know traditionally in our industry. 560 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:03.960 Uh. 561 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.319 The the gentleman involved took it quite seriously as they 562 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.359 chomped on their cigars, and a lot of this was 563 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.559 Sakra saying, I want to take it in a different direction. 564 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.599 I said, what if we lifted the veil? What if 565 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.599 we cast aside all pretense and just said, this is 566 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.440 as fun and as loose as is anything else on television. 567 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.799 I mean, what what? Why not? Why not to embrace 568 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:27.519 the fact that that you know that that that what 569 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.839 we're doing is is kind of a goof. 570 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:36.599 You know that sounds great. I think you already did. 571 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.000 It's sitting across the table. 572 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.680 And I just I, you know, I I I I 573 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.680 can't help. But thing mean, the thing is, you know 574 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:51.440 that the the improvisational aspect of entertainment. I mean, this 575 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.200 is this is what these guys excel at because you know. 576 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:59.319 They they don't read, you know, dialogue. They they they 577 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.880 improv impro improvise Morocco does. 578 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.799 But that's another thing. I oh my god, you can 579 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.240 see his eyes like literally looking down at the cue cards. 580 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.839 I mean, I'm hoping that's part of the whole goof 581 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.920 of the whole thing that that he it seems like 582 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.000 is like staring at the fucking que cards off camera. 583 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.799 I mean it is. It's it's ridiculous. But he looks nervous, 584 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.039 So it makes me wonder that maybe he maybe, yeah, 585 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.599 maybe he was, maybe he wasn't trying to be so obvious. 586 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.240 Well, I was shitting on the title of this of 587 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.920 this Coliseum home Video released most Explosive TNT show, But 588 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.720 it was better than the first working title that you 589 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:35.279 just mentioned. 590 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:35.519 There. 591 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.240 The improvisation, the improvisational nature of entertainment. 592 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:43.519 It's a great time for calls him video, calls him video, 593 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:50.440 the the the improvisational element of entertaining possibilities. That's what 594 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:59.160 we do the right entertainment. So EPU of Epe. 595 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.119 Yeah, this is great, probably catchy, Yeah, rolls right off 596 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.119 the tongue. You don't have to like stop, you know 597 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:12.599 that like SARSA, what that like SARSA story. 598 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.160 I don't know that, but I know, I know, I 599 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:14.759 know salsa. 600 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:35.720 It's the lap fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 601 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.319 knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed Fan. 602 00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:03.599 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Jo. 603 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.200 Yeah no Ship. Eric Bischoff created Sarsa. He learned it 604 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:22.240 from Dusty Rhodes is Salsa New York City tremendous. Eric 605 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.720 Bischoff had Sarsa, Dusty Rhodes has salsa, damn right, and 606 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.359 Kevin Sullivan had salsa. 607 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.680 Salsa. What what what do you want? 608 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.240 A polar Uh? Oh, you didn't say Seltzer. 609 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.920 Sorry, that's a fucking It was a great u uh 610 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.680 uh bit on Seinfeld. They do that, uh they say 611 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:50.160 Seltzer sal salsa, Seltzer thing they do that, George is 612 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.359 a whole thing. I'm mad. That's very funny. 613 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.519 And the impropsye gags, winning sketches. In fact, the sale 614 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.599 concludes it was close enough to the material he'd been 615 00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.440 producing that he told Vince he'd like to try his 616 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.559 hand at sing a network version of it. 617 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.119 I will listen. I believe I believe that we are 618 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.319 we are network ready Is that right? Yes, I believe 619 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.000 the w W E is a is a network friendly 620 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:18.680 vehicle for for a particular uh no, for all facets 621 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:24.759 of entertainment. You know we we are entertainment. We you know, 622 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:31.319 worldwide entertainment. There it is, but it's still WWF. I 623 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.559 don't I don't know this F thing, but the improvisational 624 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:41.359 nature of w w D what we do? I mean, 625 00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.839 I would like to I think it's safe to say 626 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.240 that I am really, unquestionably the the permanent w W 627 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.160 W w D champion. I am the champion of what 628 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:58.880 we do on a regular basis, for now and forever together. 629 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.799 Is that what a triple H would spray himself to glisten? 630 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:11.559 Double do w D forty? That's what he uses to 631 00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:12.440 shine his bald head? 632 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.160 Now what we do? 633 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.160 Forty? What we do? 634 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:16.920 What? 635 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:24.119 What we do? Look at my bracelets? See what I'm 636 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.839 What we do is we wear entertainment bracelets. 637 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.960 It always amazes me how people assume that the story 638 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.319 is already concluded when in a lot of ways it's 639 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.039 just begun. No, I can't even let myself say it. 640 00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.480 Oh my god. So you know, Tanty launches in nineteen 641 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.119 eighty four, while all of this transformation. 642 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.319 Stop thinking you're a fucking scriptwriter, you piece of shit. 643 00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.319 My God almighty, he's. 644 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.279 In the idea room. We gotta waite. Wait, wait till 645 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.759 the fucking wait till the which I don't. Something tells 646 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.559 me it's never gonna come out. Wait till the fucking Netflix. 647 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.359 Oh yeah, Unreel comes out this summer, and you're going 648 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.640 to see him in his full self aggrandizement. 649 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.759 You know, I really can't imagine that ever coming out. 650 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.680 I mean, you're gonna be able to smell the you're 651 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.480 gonna be able to smell the black marker. 652 00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:12.920 You're gonna be able to smell what we do. 653 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.960 Ah, all right, you're gonna see the you're gonna see 654 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.519 the order in. You're gonna see the door dash. Everyone 655 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:22.360 sits around and kicks around ideas, AKA just basically sits 656 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.239 there and waits for triple h and or events to 657 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:25.400 tell them what to write. 658 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:26.840 And we go from there. 659 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.840 No, you know a lot of way I really wanted 660 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.360 to open it up. And because great ideas can come 661 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.960 from anywhere as long as it's me, I think we 662 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.760 we just got to pull back the curtain and show 663 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.440 everybody what we do. It's time. 664 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.159 It's time now. That was in ninety six. 665 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.840 Yeah, that's already taken. So yeah, Tuesday Night Titans goes 666 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.280 up on USA network in nineteen eighty four amidst all 667 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.440 this change and the MTV relationship is budding, and there 668 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.559 the darling of cable television, Hulkgan is mister irony superhero, 669 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.559 you know, Andy Warhol showing up. We've talked about this 670 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.519 a million times, and by the spring of nineteen eighty six, 671 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.679 around the time this video released, this hits the Associated Press. 672 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.199 Wrestling's popularity is such that a superstation wr in New 673 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.039 York has three WWF shows each Saturday. Can you imagine 674 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.440 three shows every Saturday. Other wrestling series, including those featuring 675 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.679 the American Wrestling Alliance and the National Wrestling Alliance, can 676 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.719 be seen on various outlets, including MSG, USA and TBS. 677 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.400 We have two hundred and seventeen broadcast stations for our 678 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:33.320 programs every week, said Basil Lavito of WWF. Usays, listen 679 00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:39.199 to this. USA's highest rated show usually is Tuesday Night Titans. 680 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.559 Of course, that's the thing about this. You look at 681 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.360 you like, this is so fucking stupid, so frivolous. What's 682 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:48.960 he doing. Why is he being you know, humored like 683 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.000 this to be able to do this to wrestling. It's 684 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.480 because it's a fucking hit. That's why it's a hit 685 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.199 at Wwfrodue and look all the more reason you'd put 686 00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:59.199 it on a coliseum video. 687 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.960 Yep, yep. People don't want to believe that. I don't 688 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.840 think that's right. 689 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.559 That's correct. They wanted it to fail so badly. We're 690 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.679 not realizing that it's bringing all these people to the 691 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.000 table that otherwise could give two shits, including fucking Dick Ebersol, 692 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.880 and you know, the New York intelligensia, the media types, 693 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.440 the fucking agencies. You know, that's that's what they're after. Now, 694 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:19.840 that's what they're chasing. Madison Avenue. You know, m H 695 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.519 a WWF produced series which features interviews with wrestlers and 696 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.360 highlights of their fight. So that's on way to put it. 697 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.599 That's one of the most maddening things about this tape. 698 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.400 They pretend they're going to show you a match. 699 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.159 I know, they just do their they do a little tease, 700 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.039 like a little highlight thing for two seconds and it 701 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.159 just goes right back to the talk show. 702 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.199 Yeah, you start to think that oh, okay, we're going 703 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.679 to get TNT sketches interspersed with matches involving the wrestlers 704 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.639 in the sketches. Now, just Gene Okerlin doing a voiceover 705 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.679 over two or three moves in a match that involves 706 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.119 the wrestler, they go to more absurdity. NBC's occasional late 707 00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.280 night wrestling Extravaganza is the piece notes. Of course, Saturday 708 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.360 Night's main event had already premiered by this point, have 709 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.760 been just as well received. In March, the network received 710 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.239 its highest share ever for the eleven thirty pm Eastern 711 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.559 time slot, with Saturday Night's main event drawing a thirty. 712 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.119 The rating was a sensational ten point five. We can 713 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.360 give you a wide exposure on all different levels of TV, 714 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.360 Defido says, Plus, we have seven hundred live events a year. 715 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.440 That's right, Well, no one's going to drop out of 716 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.920 exhaustion seven hundred live events a year, Am I wrong? 717 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.719 Or there are only three hundred and sixty five days 718 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:24.800 in the fucking year to begin with? 719 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.719 Well, I mean we provide a right, a varying degree 720 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.719 of aw you know, we have we have live events 721 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.800 that happen any day at any time, So we. 722 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:37.079 Provide a varying degree of entertainment. Is that what he said? 723 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.400 I mean, good luck disagreeing with that. Good you know, 724 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.199 good luck making the case because he's going to win 725 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.000 now one, Oh foul. 726 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:47.599 Uh. 727 00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:52.239 I don't to tell you except we have varying degrees 728 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.559 of entertainment properties and entertaining possibilities. So I mean, we 729 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.119 entertain quite a bit, and we entertain the future, and. 730 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.840 We're willing to entertain offers. Yeah, Vince spend all We 731 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.039 thought Vince spent all those years entertaining us, but what 732 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.679 he was really doing, he spent all those years entertaining offers. 733 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.079 What did that? 734 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.320 Oh my god, there's one for stump the brain. What 735 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:24.079 did Vince entertain the most the fans buyout offers? 736 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.280 That's right? Oh shit. 737 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.159 So if you can open up the nineteen eighty four 738 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.440 edition of WWF magazine that I sent to you, Boss, 739 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.559 I'd like to turn it over to you as we 740 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.239 go into the pages, as we always do during the 741 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.239 Coliseum collection, because there's no better reference point to what 742 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:40.440 the WWF wanted you to think about the stuff they 743 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.599 were putting out on home video than how they covered 744 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.960 it in the pages of their own magazine. So often 745 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.400 there was overlap because you know, they would send a 746 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.480 photographer and a writer to the set of some of 747 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.079 these skits that they would shoot, or some of these 748 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.760 personality profile vignettes that they were putting together for their 749 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.559 new fangled wrestling television shows, and they would do an 750 00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.880 article and my god, they would have in their own 751 00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:01.880 words what they wanted you to think about it. So 752 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.679 it's a great songs. So this is true the October 753 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.280 November edition of WWF magazine. So Tuesday Titans had been 754 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.280 in the air for several months at this point. But 755 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.159 here's how they wrote about this, this new experiment in entertainment. 756 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.400 If you can toggle down to page twelve. 757 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.840 Page twelve, see then there I'll get we go. 758 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.599 Tuesday Night Titans. Vince and Lord Al at the desk. 759 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.480 Just look at Vince. Look at him. Such a young 760 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.239 whipper snapper, fucking psychopath. Look at him. 761 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.239 Yep, yep, a sociopath right there. 762 00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.880 This is Bufont. Basically, think of think of all think 763 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.440 of all the skeletons, all right, Oh, think of what 764 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.519 he's gonna do with the power and money he's about 765 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.559 to amass and the info. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Tuesday 766 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.599 Night Titans explodes on the USA Network ES. What is 767 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.239 TNT Tuesday Night Titans is a new wrestling program on 768 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.079 the USA cable Network, unlike any wrestling show that has 769 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:01.239 ever been produced anywhere by Vin sick Mann, the voice 770 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.000 of professional wrestling. Professional wrestling in capital in caps by 771 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.199 the way, Yes, it's always so interesting to see what 772 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.719 they capitalize. It's Rostling by the way. 773 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.400 Yeah right, Professional Rostling and his co host, Lord Alfred Hayes. 774 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.519 TNT offers its audience a look at wrestlers up close 775 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:25.159 and personal, behind the scenes in the locker rooms, behind 776 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.480 the scenes in the locker rooms, gives insight into particular 777 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:35.480 grudge matches, and above all, TNT entertains Oh my god, 778 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.079 it says it. Each week, Vince and Alfred have as 779 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.519 their guests the most famous wrestlers in the world today, 780 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.159 who are interviewed about their personal lives and their wrestling careers. 781 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.199 The audience watches a match in which the guest is 782 00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.639 a principal combatant, and then has the privilege of having 783 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:55.119 that guest comment on his own match. Yes, but that's 784 00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.599 not all. Who would expect Ivan Putski the Polish Power 785 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.320 to come on, come with it, his own Polish band 786 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.480 and his group of Polish dancers, whom he joined in 787 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.480 a couple of rounds of the Poka TNT is a 788 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.280 different twist to old and familiar faces. Mister Fuji, instead 789 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.199 of appearing as a samurai warrior, appeared as a host 790 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.480 in an oriental tea room complete with geisha dancer. However, 791 00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:25.519 he showed his true colors when his geisha geisha entertainer 792 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:32.239 accidentally spilled Saki spelled s a k I capitalized, which 793 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.039 wasn't that? Wasn't that? One of the wrestlers he managed, 794 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:36.800 mister Saki. 795 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.840 Sonny Siaki, I remember him. 796 00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.679 On his hand and Vincent Alfred thought they would have 797 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.960 to restrain mister Fuji from physically striking the girl. To 798 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.119 mister Fuji, it was an insult to his honor to 799 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.119 shame him in front of his invited guests. The intriguing 800 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.159 aspect of T and T is that one must be 801 00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:00.400 prepared for the unexpected and be prepared to have fun. 802 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.559 Can you can you please repeat that sentence and just 803 00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.119 tell me that Vince didn't write that himself or dictate it. 804 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.800 This is what you should The intriguing aspect of TNT 805 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.119 is that one must be prepared for the unexpected and 806 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.159 be prepared to have fun. 807 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.960 So the intriguing aspect of TNT is one must be 808 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.679 prepared to have fun. That's the yeah, what. 809 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.119 What I've What people find to be most intriguing is 810 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.000 that you must prepare for this, for this television program. 811 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:29.519 It takes all day. 812 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.239 Actually you can't just you can't just turn on your 813 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.840 TV and watch it. You have to prepare for the unexpected. 814 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.800 You don't know what's going to happen. We may, we 815 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:39.960 may invade your home. 816 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:41.679 Let me ask you, pal, how do you prepare for 817 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:42.440 the unexpected? 818 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:44.239 Well, I mean, what do you do? How do you 819 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.679 when you don't expect something? How do you prepare for it? 820 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:53.480 M I know how I prepare for it. I'm always prepared. Wow, 821 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.440 I'm unexpectedly prepared. 822 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:02.480 Another quote, Bring us Home Boss. 823 00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.719 Watch Vincent Alfred each week on Tuesday nights from eight 824 00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.880 pm to ten pm on the USA cable network. You 825 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.880 really won't want to miss a single episode, but you 826 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.280 may want to miss multiple episodes. 827 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.880 Or married episodes. It would be two hours for a 828 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.360 short period of time. Eventually, the USA made they call 829 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.159 the trimit to one and this becomes you know, primetime 830 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.559 wrestling eventually, and that's where we come in our generation. 831 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.880 Yeah yeah, but it all starts with Tuesday Night Titans, 832 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.400 this idea of like a week night time slot for Vince, 833 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.039 you know, not just weekend crazy. Yeah, it really is 834 00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.119 all the things that said in motion. So if you 835 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.519 can also open the February and March nineteen eighty five 836 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.000 edition of WIF magazine to go down to page nineteen, 837 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.000 we'll see how they're talking about Tuesday Night Titans about 838 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.039 a year after it had launched in the pages of 839 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.280 their own magazine. They've got a lot more sort of 840 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:55.039 under their belt. 841 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:56.199 And this is. 842 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.400 It shows the tongue of kid trying to tea Lord 843 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.440 Al and Vince the hula. It shows Vince and Freddy Blassi. 844 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.639 This is a famous one. We've seen it before on 845 00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.800 the Coliseum Collection where fred Blassie is getting questions from 846 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.079 the audience about love and life and how to you know, 847 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.480 be romantic and stuff, and and Freddy Blassi offers, uh, 848 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.880 you know, kind of crude advice hearts and flowers. 849 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.840 So well, and if you just looked at it just 850 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.559 happened to just breeze past it from them. This this issue. 851 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.679 The article before this TNT one, Oh yeah, talks about 852 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.719 the new god ww president Jack Tunney. 853 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.360 He just hired him. So that means a clean break 854 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.880 from New Japan, which was such a vital part of 855 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.400 Vince McMahon's funding source in eighty four was that New 856 00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.159 Japan would pay big money to get you know, Hulk 857 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.559 Coogan and stuff, and to bring their wrestlers to the 858 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.679 gardens so it could air on Japanese television. To make 859 00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:50.800 these guys into including of course Antonio and ok he 860 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.679 looked like huge American stars, and that money played a 861 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.840 huge role in why he was able to you know, 862 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.639 stay afloat after WrestleMania. But that's why his Shashi Shinma 863 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.639 from New Japan was the WWF president during this point 864 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.480 in time. That was part of the euro Right. So 865 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.119 when you see Jack Tennant come in, that means the 866 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.519 fence is now financially solvent. 867 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.800 Let me tell you we're done with New Japan. Is 868 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:12.760 now Old Japan. 869 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.199 Of course, they brought Tony in making a deal to 870 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.440 take over Toronto, which of course was being run by 871 00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.920 Jim Crockett. And so every time you see matches ww 872 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.119 from maple leaf gardens. You see the old Crocket ring 873 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.239 which used to have the NWA ring skirt and it's covered. 874 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:27.800 H They didn't buy a new ring. So that's why 875 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.400 some WWF matches back then, the black ropes in the ramp. 876 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:39.000 It's so fantastic Tuesday Night Titans, prime time pro wrestling thing. 877 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.679 They already got it right there, absolutely television program. You 878 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:44.159 know what prime time pro wrestling? 879 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:44.679 Should we call it? 880 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:44.880 Well? 881 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:45.199 I don't know. 882 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:48.840 Well this article time, you know, we talked about it. 883 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.199 We said it prime time Rossling. 884 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:51.679 Thank you. 885 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.960 TANT continues to explode as USA cable network. It was 886 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.679 clever to name the program on the u USA Cable 887 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.000 Network on Tuesday evenings TNT. TNT. 888 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.639 What an opening sentence. He just declares it was clever. 889 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.000 Okay, it was very clever to name the program on 890 00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:15.679 the USA Cable Network on Tuesday evenings TNT. Yes, DNT 891 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:17.280 is a highly explosive element. 892 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.159 Oh god, element is a Vince word for sure. 893 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.639 And Tuesday Night Titans has definitely exploded on the USA network. 894 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.639 I mean it's February, like, the show's been on there 895 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:30.239 for how long? Now? 896 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.159 How many more times you're gonna say it? Exploded. That 897 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.039 doesn't make any sense. I know it's a play on TNT, 898 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.639 but my god, it's really bizarre. You know, it's funny 899 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.400 because that was one of those things, one of those 900 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.920 brain worms I always talk about and unlapsed, where like 901 00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:45.679 I'll have this phrase in my head and I have 902 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.440 no idea where it came from because no one else 903 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:49.639 says it. And one of them, one of them, is 904 00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:54.599 it explodes on USA Network, explodes in Las Vegas. Yeah, 905 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.920 it's like it doesn't explode. But Vince made me think 906 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.880 that that was a verb to use about something arriving 907 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:02.760 right face. 908 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:08.199 Like I don't, which makes no sense. Vincent Alfred keep 909 00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.400 things humming as their guests involved them in hula lessons, 910 00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:16.199 camel rides, tea room scenes, weightlifting records, and the whole 911 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:25.400 host of other involvements. Involvements, host of other involvements. 912 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.199 Well, that is one thing you could guarantee if you 913 00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:29.360 watched Tuesday Night Titans back in the day, you would 914 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:30.119 get involvements. 915 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.199 Well, I believe that you know, TNT provides the the 916 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:39.000 the entertainment audience with a multitude of of of highly 917 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:40.199 excitable involvements. 918 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.360 Can't wait to tune in gott to set my VCR 919 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:46.199 to tape it every week. 920 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.320 Involvements are at an all time higher, that's clear. 921 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.519 I mean, how many more fucking places and networks can 922 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:53.800 you go? 923 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.719 Are you? Recently a new segment called Hearts and Flowers 924 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.360 with added whereby Vince reads selected letters sent in from 925 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.239 the fans relative to their love life or. 926 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.840 Lack of love life relative big Vince work. 927 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.559 Yes, indeed, and a quest for the Evening responds. 928 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:14.840 No. 929 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.519 A guest sorry, and a guest for the Evening responds 930 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:23.840 to those particular questions dear Abby style. The questions can 931 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.119 be very direct, and quite often Vince's guests are thrown 932 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.480 as to how to tactfully respond. For example, how would 933 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.280 Freddy BLASTI answer a question written from a lady which says, quote, 934 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.599 after watching T ANDT on Tuesday nights, my husband won't 935 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.280 pay any attention to me. He's very excited after the 936 00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.599 show and gets very involved in the matches and the 937 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:46.280 guests who are interviewed, and he doesn't. He just doesn't 938 00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.280 seem to care at all about me. When Vince asks 939 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:55.280 Freddy for his advice. The Hollywood Fashion plates Hollywood Fashion 940 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.440 is capitalized, but plate is not. 941 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.159 A good cats, that's good. You know, he thinks like 942 00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.159 he's being formal. It's like how Rick Flair capitalizes every 943 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.199 word in his tweets, you know, because he thinks that's 944 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.320 he thinks that's like distinguished, and all it does is 945 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.320 reveal how like under educated you are right. 946 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.119 How stupid the Hollywood fashion plates answers were not quite 947 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.920 ready for prime time. There's always something for everyone on 948 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.199 TNT be off the mat segments and are entertaining and 949 00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:35.519 show a side light a side light the lives yet 950 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.159 of the particular wrestlers who are on the program, but 951 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.559 for the real wrestling officionado, there are also live matches 952 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.679 which feature the top talent in the WWE. In short, 953 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.360 TN T is fun and entertaining. 954 00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.840 He's just like, what would I want someone to say 955 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:55.719 about this TV show if they reviewed it? And I'm 956 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.840 just going to state it as fact in my own publication. 957 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.800 In short, T and T is fun and entertaining. 958 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.079 Good, Okay, great? I was wondering, where's the lead here? 959 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.239 Where's the take home point? 960 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.760 It has many twists, and one possible segment that we 961 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.960 might see develop in the future is a point counterpoint 962 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.760 segment which could pit one wrestler against another in a 963 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:20.719 verbal contest, answering questions about their lives or about a 964 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:24.000 particular match, or whatever the fuck is doing. 965 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.559 He's actually workshopping like future sketches to fill like, you know, 966 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.119 column inches in his own magazine. 967 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.960 It's so fucking bizarre. Shoot, people think about this one 968 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.559 counterpoint idea. You know, we could, we could, we could, 969 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.800 we could work on the varying array of topical suggestions 970 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.679 right for that nature. 971 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.199 Array of topical suggestions for that nature nature. 972 00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:58.760 It would be interesting to see two wrestlers who had 973 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.760 been foes in the ring commenting on one of their matches. 974 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.079 I'm sure they would have decidedly different opinions as to 975 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.840 what had taken place inside the ring. Of course, moderator 976 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.000 Vince McMahon would have to be sure that the participants 977 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:13.360 adhered strictly. 978 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.000 To its an article where he this is like the 979 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.960 future tense, like this is not about what tn T is. 980 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.159 This is like one when it comes. He wants to 981 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.400 get He wants to see written response. If they would 982 00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:32.039 watch this, if this segment would be popular, I mean also, 983 00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.039 it's too detailed to be like an off the cuff. 984 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.280 I no suggestion you know to the of no violence 985 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.280 during the TNT segments. That is a rule strictly adhered, 986 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.000 strictly to the rules of no violence during the TNT segments. 987 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.119 I think that's interesting because that is true. They never 988 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.960 had it break down. You think, this is pro wrestling. 989 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.679 Eventually someone has to have a bench clearing brawl and 990 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:56.400 chairs have to fly. That never really happened, not on 991 00:51:56.480 --> 00:52:00.480 the set, but they you know, we Lord Algotts, like 992 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.480 we talked about. Yes, that's true. People get sort of like, 993 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:05.960 I mean that that's a little extreme, but you know, 994 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.679 like bullied and kind of castigated and get pies in 995 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.440 the face. But that's the personnel. It's not like two 996 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.800 feuding wrestlers come to blows, whereas now you can't. You 997 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.079 can't put two feuding wrestlers in the frame without having 998 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.480 them come to blows. Right, it's a rule. 999 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:41.480 Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys 1000 00:52:41.639 --> 00:53:03.960 need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's a Lapsed 1001 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:08.519 fan wrestling podcast with Jack and JP Soro. 1002 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.880 One could imagine the difficulty in maintaining that rule if 1003 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.079 John Studd were sitting across from Andre the Giant and 1004 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.079 each was claiming to be the only giant in professional wrestling. 1005 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.440 Stay tuned to TNT. You'll be glad you did the. 1006 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.280 Worst article I've ever read in my life or seen 1007 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:27.039 read in my life. 1008 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:28.639 I mean just good. I'm good. 1009 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.679 Yeah, collection of nonsense. 1010 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.199 I'm glad. I'm glad that I didn't. All right, I'll 1011 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:34.599 tell you that's right. That's how I feel. 1012 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:38.719 Ad Week's taking notice May sixth, nineteen eighty five. Wrestling 1013 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:39.239 tries for. 1014 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:40.719 A grip on advertisers. Yes. 1015 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.440 Yes, when professional wrestling is the lead story of People magazine, 1016 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.440 you know it's a certifiable trend. Tragedy is more like it, 1017 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.320 which only means that mainstream media finally have found out 1018 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.880 what the fringe has known all along. America loves TV wrestling, 1019 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.039 oh my god. Not Olympic wrestling, mind you, but the 1020 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.679 martial art form that combines real body slams fake ie. Wow, 1021 00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:06.280 we're calling the body slams real okay. 1022 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.079 Fake islams and fake eye gouges okay. 1023 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:11.480 A lot of weird masks in these days, weirder celebrities. 1024 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:13.639 So I guess the body slams are real because they happen. 1025 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.760 But it's like, what would a fake body slam be 1026 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.280 a fucking like a mirage, like an optical illusion, like 1027 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.159 maybe maybe if they're on like a wire and a crane, 1028 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:28.679 orchestrated by World Wrestling Federation President vincc Man Junior, the 1029 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.239 sport's heaviest weight promoter. Wrestling exhibitions, they put in quotes, 1030 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.159 are drawing in crowds to match those of the biggest 1031 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.480 professional boxing matches. Last March twenty three, thousand fans cranned 1032 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.840 in a Madison Square gardens hul Cogen and eighteen style 1033 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.760 wart Mister t took on Arch and MSC's Rabbity Roddy 1034 00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:47.159 Piper and Mister Wonderful Paul Orndwarf. Libarachi was the timekeeper, 1035 00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.320 Billy Martin the announcer in Muhammad Ali the referee. Everything 1036 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.880 wrestling touches seems to turn to gold. Four of the 1037 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.159 top ten cable TV shows are wrestling. When MTV covered 1038 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.079 a grudge match between Wendy Richter, who's managed by Cindy Lauper, 1039 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.639 and Lalani Kai, it became the network's highest rated show. 1040 00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.119 Upper started the rock and wrestling connection when she had 1041 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.920 grappler captain Lluell Benno play her father in one of 1042 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.760 her MTV videos. When twenty twenty did a wrestling exposa, 1043 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:12.800 the program got its highest rating of the year. Just 1044 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.039 about the only people who seem unaware of wrestling's promotional 1045 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:18.159 value are national advertisers. Let's get that thumb up, baby. 1046 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.440 All right, there we go. It's not real, so we're 1047 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.840 not interested. But that may soon change. As during a 1048 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.559 recent broadcast industry lunch in what he thought was the 1049 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:30.280 next big TV programming trend, CBS Entertainment President Bud Grant said, 1050 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.559 professional wrestling. Great quote, and he wasn't joking, and he 1051 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.440 wasn't joking. Although no primetime wrestling series are scheduled for 1052 00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:40.920 this fall, CBS will add to its Saturday morning lineup 1053 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.639 Hulk Cogan's Rock and Wrestling, a new animated series based 1054 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.679 on the WWF's wrestling personalities, and NBC is considering a 1055 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.039 late night wrestling show, Saturday Night's main Event here once 1056 00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.679 a month in place of Saturday Night Live. Even mainstream 1057 00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.559 sports programming ESPN is thinking of adding pro wrestling with 1058 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.599 its lineup to help both startch ratings, which of course 1059 00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:00.800 it did with Vern and Fritz. In fact, for the BF, 1060 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.480 which began syndicating a package of wrestling shows nationally about 1061 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.199 a year ago have doubled in the last six months 1062 00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.239 for a national rating of around thirteen. An average network 1063 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.119 primetime TV show gets about a seventeen rating. So that's 1064 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.840 on cable they're doing thirteens and network is seventeen. That's 1065 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.679 supposed to be a much bigger gap than that. Moreover, 1066 00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.199 wrestling isn't just attracting more viewers, it's attracting better viewers. 1067 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:26.639 Wrestling's Tuesday Night Titans, Tuesday Night Titans, a sort of 1068 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:33.199 television equivalent of a potluck dinner, is now the number 1069 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.119 one cable show in Manhattan. Yes, that was a huge 1070 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.559 stat into the number one cable show in Manhattan. There 1071 00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.800 we go, and that means yuppies. Washington Post writer Paul 1072 00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:46.239 Attanasio noted recently, wrestling like pan blackened Louisiana, redfish and 1073 00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.559 bowling shirts, has become an artifact of baby boom hip. 1074 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.440 Oh my god, I cringe, but that's where we were. 1075 00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.519 Wrestling like pan, blackened, Louisiana, redfish and bowling shirt has 1076 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:05.840 become an artifact of baby boom hip. Vince is the 1077 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:10.320 luckiest motherfucker on the planet. Many landed right in this 1078 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.880 cultural moment like this. Oh ye, just as he took over, 1079 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:15.760 you know, and this is the only era he understood, 1080 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.000 you know, him, he understood you know, the seventies and stuff, 1081 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.239 but he wasn't in a position of architect angles. But 1082 00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.440 like after like that, he just loses. He tries to 1083 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:25.320 keep with the nineties. You know, they change all the 1084 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.480 graphics and he starts wearing the baggy workout pants and everything. 1085 00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:29.559 You know. 1086 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.280 Yeah, yeah, he like he he. 1087 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.800 He dressed Todd Pett and Gill, you know, right, he 1088 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.199 always has I mean all all the like he has 1089 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:43.679 this weird need or or or I don't know what 1090 00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.920 it is really to always be on like whatever is 1091 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:51.159 contemporary right now, right, and it's like but it's it's 1092 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.159 usually the wrong side of that he right, you know, 1093 00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.280 he misses keynotes. So it's like this weird thing where 1094 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:04.599 it's like, yeah, like John Cena is like like ten 1095 00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:05.599 years too late. 1096 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.360 You know, with that character. Exactly exactly. 1097 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.159 Indeed, to hear Frank Tomayo, whose Creative Media Enterprises represents 1098 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.079 the WWF to advertisers talk about it, Wrestling viewers seem 1099 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.360 Taylor made from mass market advertisers, but Tomayo says national 1100 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.719 advertisers still act like a bunch of pencil necked geeks 1101 00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.400 when it comes to buying time. We delivered three quarters 1102 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.079 of the men eighteen to thirty four. The NFL MINU 1103 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.559 Night Football delivers at one fifth to one sixth the 1104 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.599 price as to Mayo. We have huge product usage indices 1105 00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.800 on some categories. That's a fucking vins. I'll write that down. Huge, 1106 00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.960 huge product usage indices. 1107 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.760 I believe. Yeah, obviously, I. 1108 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:45.239 Know what you mean. 1109 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:45.519 Frank. 1110 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.119 It's good. It's great to hear. That's what we've been 1111 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:48.639 hoping for. It's a KPI for us. 1112 00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:51.800 You know, we all we're all about that. That What 1113 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:52.719 was it again? 1114 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:53.280 What did you say? 1115 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:55.159 Or thank you? 1116 00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:57.360 Thank you very much? Howard? Now Loik turned to you, 1117 00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.360 Frank tell us, uh, well, what are we seeing in 1118 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:04.800 terms of use agendicies? I get. I guess that means, 1119 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.599 like when you survey the viewers, they actually use the 1120 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.280 products that are advertised to them at a higher level 1121 00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.639 than other TV shows, because that's always the thing. Like 1122 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.119 I saw that ad, but I'm not do they really 1123 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:16.679 expect me to go out and buy that? Now? It's 1124 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.559 not like they ad had nothing to do with like 1125 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.400 what the experience of the product is. You know, we 1126 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.559 could use a little bit more of that, folks. Hint hint, 1127 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.480 a little less branding, Okay, a little more like why 1128 00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.800 this like a fucking the detergent guys get it. They 1129 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:33.719 show the fucking thing, They show the stain, you know, yeah, 1130 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.360 and when everyone knows it's bullshit, but they keep doing 1131 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.519 it for a reason, because that's the minimum expectation of advertising. 1132 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:43.280 They show you why this product instead of that one. Anyway, 1133 00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.000 our viewers almost have a love affair, he writes, with 1134 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.039 the automobile. Yet as of the state, we don't have 1135 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.679 one major automotive. The biggest problem we have is not 1136 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.280 the numbers. It's overcoming the image that buyers have of wrestling. 1137 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.800 I mean, talk about the age old struggle. Huh yeah, well, 1138 00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.239 I guess I prefer that in the slim gym table days, 1139 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.559 because we're way past that do wipes and that image 1140 01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.239 was created by years of regional productions full of kicks, bites, 1141 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.800 ear twisting and fake blood. Of course they call the 1142 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:09.760 body slams, reel in the blood fake when it's the 1143 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.360 fucking hell. Most local promoters quote still think they're in 1144 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.880 the wrestling business. We think we're in the entertainment business. 1145 01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:19.639 That's a big philosophical difference, explains McBee. 1146 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.880 They think they think we're in the wrestling business. Wrestling business. 1147 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:24.679 We know we're in the entertainment business. 1148 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.599 NT proves we are not in the wrestling Most producers 1149 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.239 maintain that wrestling is a sport. Vinces that's bull crap. 1150 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.320 We're selling entertainment. Oh my god, he is it fake? 1151 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.320 That's the next sentence. Is it fake? Don't think so? 1152 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:41.840 I mean, well, I mean, you know, you know what 1153 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.119 define you know, what is your definition of fake? I mean, 1154 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.639 is entertainment fake? Do you believe that entertainment is a 1155 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.679 is a fake enterprise? So I think of it as 1156 01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.159 being a very real thing. And if I'm entertained, I'm 1157 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.079 really entertained. 1158 01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.119 And my father always said, if it's in the sun, 1159 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:04.559 it's so. No, it's choreographed. Okay, it says, no, excuse me. 1160 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.079 Here's the here's the sentence in thatweek. Is it fake? Well, 1161 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.199 is ballet fake? No, it's choreographed. According to it is ballet. 1162 01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.159 See according so shut up Jr. To to Mayo w W. 1163 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.719 If it was ballet, people might respect it, right, exactly 1164 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:21.880 say that, like, it's a then flattering thing to be called. 1165 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:26.079 But it's probably the highest version of spectator appreciation for 1166 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.639 what wrestling is is ballet, you know, it's how ballet 1167 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.039 is viewed. According to Tomo, WWF research shows that ninety 1168 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.599 five percent of wrestling fans know they're watching a spectacle. 1169 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.760 Well that doesn't mean they know it's fake. Yeah, right, 1170 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.840 something that's real can be a spectacle to I mean, 1171 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.760 I mean that's also I don't know, you do you 1172 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.760 know you're watching a spectacle. When you're watching it seems 1173 01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:50.880 seems like something that that that that is defined after it. Yes, 1174 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.239 something that organically develops, Yes, right. But McGahn says the 1175 01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:56.280 issue isn't whether the wrestling is staged, but how it 1176 01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:59.679 is staged. Sensationalism taints its image, he says. He cites 1177 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.400 a recent an exhibition carried by competing producer in which 1178 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.679 a wrestler was portrayed as being seriously injured. Even the 1179 01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.360 camera angles accentuated the wrestler's anguish. It was one of 1180 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.440 the dartest things I've ever seen in my life. McMahon says. 1181 01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:12.960 This kid was busted right open. He was bleeding profusely, 1182 01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.480 and then the kid allegedly goes into convulsions and there 1183 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.760 are no doctors around. I don't really think that General 1184 01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:22.039 Foods wants to be associated with that awesome what a 1185 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.639 throwing throwing shade. I'm trying to think what anglic could 1186 01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.000 have been. Oh geez, I don't know, man, what he's 1187 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:30.280 talking about. Maybe talking about some of the van Erics 1188 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.599 did or something. Nah, he wouldn't shit talk them in 1189 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:35.519 eighty five. Must have been something on Crockett. But I 1190 01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:37.840 can't think of what kid. Yeah, so what he did 1191 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.519 with thatdy Gilbert and so he own fucking TV taming 1192 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:44.159 when he was a young kid. Consequently, General Foods doesn't 1193 01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:46.280 yet want to be associated with McMahon's new brand of 1194 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:50.480 wrestling either, even though forty percent of the viewers are women. Okay, yeah, sure. 1195 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:54.119 To be fair wrestling is relatively mixed bullshit, I know, like, 1196 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.519 do you just say these things? To be fair wrestling 1197 01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.239 is relatively new to the national advertising scene. The WWF 1198 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.119 decided to take its in December nineteen eighty three, at 1199 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.639 which point it reached about forty percent of US TV homes, 1200 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.039 mostly in the Northeast. Through a combination of cable networks 1201 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:11.360 and independent broadcast stations. It now reaches about eighty five percent. Moreover, 1202 01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.079 as the wrestling fad continues, the WWF is trading up 1203 01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:17.159 to better time periods and better stations, including some network affiliates. 1204 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.840 The concept of a national wrestling medium really came three 1205 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.880 years ago when McMahon bought his father's shares in the WWF. 1206 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:25.519 McMahon senior was among the most successful and innovative of 1207 01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:28.239 wrestling promoters. Early on, he took cameras right into the 1208 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:30.719 wrestling arenas. Where else would they be? 1209 01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.840 I know, what does that even mean? What doesn't make 1210 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:35.360 any sense? 1211 01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.119 Previously matches had been held in studios o icee. Oh, 1212 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.599 they're saying it's right, like you know the studio that 1213 01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.199 was the Merrygold Arena in Chicago and the Dumont Network 1214 01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:49.440 for instance, or Kimiski Park for fucking year Rogers O'Connor 1215 01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:53.039 right via break guys. In fact, the original TV wrestling 1216 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.559 was not studio wrestling. That came after the original one 1217 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.760 was from the arena. For the most part, Previously, matches 1218 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.639 had been held in studios with none of the crowd excitement, 1219 01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.920 but success as dulled his appetite for further innovation. Meanwhile, 1220 01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:06.519 McMahon Junior had developed the vision of a national wrestling company. 1221 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:11.000 I knew we could not attract national advertisers regionally, and 1222 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:12.280 that we could not bring. 1223 01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:17.440 I knew we could not attract national advertisers regionally. Right. 1224 01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:20.960 That it's confusing, I think he means, while being a 1225 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:22.880 regional promotion, no one's going to want to place a 1226 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.280 national ad on our broadcast if we only reached certain states, 1227 01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:28.719 and that we could not bring the entertainment values to 1228 01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.480 it by continuing to be regional, he explains. But pro 1229 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.599 Rossling had a don't tread on me marketing philosophy, and 1230 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:36.679 as a result of that, Rostling, as far as TV went, 1231 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:42.960 was always a fragmented marketplace, A fragmented marketplace. Huge learning, 1232 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.119 he's he's studying those NBA books. I'll give him that. 1233 01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:48.079 The first thing McMahon did after buying the company from 1234 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:51.039 his father was to move the ww's headquarters to Grantwich, Connecticut. 1235 01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.599 We really should be in midtown Manhattan to do our business, 1236 01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:54.360 says McMahon. 1237 01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:55.639 But I wanted to make God. 1238 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:57.639 Yeah, but I wanted to make a statement to the 1239 01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.840 world about the war wrestling Federation. Anybody can be ad 1240 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.719 down Manhattan, but Rustling and Greenwich, Connecticut. My god, it 1241 01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.639 turned some heads. Oh please, that's such bullshit. It's because 1242 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.960 you lived there. That's where you like. Oh god, it 1243 01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.559 turns you can't afford Midtown. That's why I was gonna say. 1244 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:13.920 And also like, like, he's gonna fucking commute into the 1245 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:15.719 city every fucking day from. 1246 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:19.360 The match, now right, you can't. He can't. He can't 1247 01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.119 stop off for his rubbin tug if he has to 1248 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:24.039 drive it right exactly. Once he had secured control of 1249 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.920 the company, McMahon wasted little time in pursuing his expansion plan. 1250 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:28.400 It was less than a month before I made the 1251 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.400 first encroachment on the business, he recalls. His first assault 1252 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.440 was on the wrestling promoters in Saint Louis, which was 1253 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:35.440 considered the capital. 1254 01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:38.159 Of professional wrestling, or or was it someone in the 1255 01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:39.000 office for that matter. 1256 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:42.000 The WWF had been restricted to the Northeast from Boston 1257 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.440 to Pittsburgh as its marketing region, but Man put the 1258 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:47.280 first cracks in the cartel like wrestling Alliance by striking 1259 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.199 a deal with Saint Louis television station KPLR to show matches. 1260 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:53.920 He taped and staged rather in Madison Square Garden cause 1261 01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.360 a lot of dissension, says mcmaddon. Now many of these 1262 01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.320 cronies who have been in the business for years, tried 1263 01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:01.119 to persuade my dad to pursue. Weighed me not to 1264 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.199 do this, But once you start a fight, you better 1265 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:05.519 be prepared to go the distance than we are. My 1266 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:08.239 McMahon's biggest battle now is with advertisers. One of the 1267 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.119 things that will help us as CBS and NBC, says McMahon. 1268 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.039 Now that the networks have endorsed us, maybe advertisers will. 1269 01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.440 It gives you the stamp of approval. If Campbell Soup 1270 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.519 buys the Saturday Morning cartoon, they can then go out 1271 01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.639 and buy us right after it, which no. A further 1272 01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:26.920 inducement may be the WWFS Bargain Basement rate card. For 1273 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:31.119 twenty seven five hundred dollars, advertisers can buy a package 1274 01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:34.719 that includes thirty second spots on six WWF shows on 1275 01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:37.760 broadcast and cable TV, reaching about eighty seven percent of 1276 01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:41.039 US television homes. That's that's a bargain right now. That's 1277 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.480 that's why we got such low red ads during wrestling. 1278 01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.039 You know, like these fucking glorified infommercials and stuff. 1279 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:51.239 It's like it's the low ball of people. You know. 1280 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:52.559 That's that's it, you know. 1281 01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:55.800 Yeah, there are other ways of reaching this audience, says 1282 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.519 to Mayo, But there is no more efficient way. According 1283 01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:00.960 to to Mayo, CPMs, we like that cost per million 1284 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:01.760 one thousand. 1285 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:02.360 Viewers, Yes, we do. 1286 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.880 We like CPMs CPMs, Frank I like. I like acronyms 1287 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:07.559 like that. How do we how do we how do 1288 01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:10.320 we seepm How do we cost? It's cost per million? No, 1289 01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:12.679 it's cost per thousand. Well, why is there an M there? Well, 1290 01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.960 mille means that I don't understand PAL. Why isn't it CPGs. 1291 01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.960 I want to call it CpG PAL Right now, I 1292 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:20.480 want to I want to talk about what I want 1293 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.960 to talk about. According to Tomato, CPMs for the package 1294 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.239 are now about three dollars for total households, five dollars 1295 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.320 for men eighteen to forty nine, and eight dollars for 1296 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.119 men eighteen to thirty four. So that's what you pay 1297 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:36.239 to reach one thousand, and you know, the more exact 1298 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.599 thing you get now, that's why you know. In addition 1299 01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:41.480 to the fact that advertisers want to reach man eighteen 1300 01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.360 to forty nine because they have the most disposable income 1301 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:47.039 to actually buy the products. That's also why people want 1302 01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.639 that young audience, because they can command five and eight 1303 01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:52.840 bucks for one thousand views instead of three. Currently, the 1304 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.519 WWF is about half sold on its national avails availability, 1305 01:07:56.599 --> 01:07:59.000 that is to say, the available time slots through September, 1306 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:01.639 but the WFL to figure into more media budgets. It 1307 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:04.599 would be very foolish for some advertisers to continue ignoring us, 1308 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.639 says McMahon. To help tell their story to the advertising community, 1309 01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:10.920 they are to be have hired Lewis Pitts, Gershawn Pond GGK, 1310 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:13.920 which is excused me as an agency which has created 1311 01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.199 trade ads playing on wrestling's rock and roll connection. A 1312 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:17.960 lot of people around here thought I was crazy when 1313 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:22.000 I took on the account, says LPGP GGK. Very catchy. 1314 01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:24.279 They really know how to brand their own company name 1315 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:27.960 Chairman George Lewis. The same people who told me I 1316 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.159 was crazy were asked me for tickets to wrestle Mania. 1317 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.640 While televised wrestling still has improved a boon to the 1318 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.279 WWF in advertising revenues, it has been very successful at 1319 01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.279 promoting arena attendants. Last year, wrestling had the second largest 1320 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.760 audience increase of any sport, Pro football had the largest. 1321 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:43.439 The WDAF regularly sells out Madison Square Garden, which of 1322 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.680 course it did before all of these changes, perhaps even 1323 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:50.720 more so in terms of frequency of visits with spillover 1324 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.119 audiences watching on TV in the Felt Forum. But the 1325 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:56.680 WAF also is exploiting other marketing opportunities. The company recently 1326 01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.840 signed an exclusive licensing agreement with DIC Enterprise, which has 1327 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.079 about twenty percent licensing projects, Pardon Me, which has about 1328 01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:07.479 twenty licensing projects in the works. The WWF is also 1329 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.960 distributing a series of wrestling highlights on home video Well 1330 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.680 Here we Are, the Colisseum Collection YEAP, and is considering 1331 01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.239 sponsorship opportunities. Another potentially lucrative market is the endorsement rights 1332 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.279 of the wrestlers themselves. According to McMahon, the WWF already 1333 01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:22.560 has turned down requests for endorsements from WA Superstar Hul Cogan, 1334 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.680 from Diet Coke and Minolta. Wow, it wasn't the right deal. 1335 01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.000 McMahon says that the Diet Coke proposal like he has 1336 01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:31.199 any right to tell Hulk Cogan he can't do it right. 1337 01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.920 It wasn't the right deal for me. But didn't they 1338 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:35.920 want Hulk? Shouldn't he have a say? 1339 01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.479 Well, that's not how operating pallent. When you want Hulk Hogan, 1340 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:41.079 you want physic man on the WWE. I don't know what. 1341 01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:42.960 I don't know wor well he was he was Hulkgan 1342 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:43.800 before he came to you? 1343 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.560 Was he? Yes? I don't know that. 1344 01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.000 So the fact that you're not aware of it makes 1345 01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:52.680 it not true from a legal perspective. 1346 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.239 I mean, I mean, but everybody somebody before they come 1347 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:55.880 to somebodace else. 1348 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:58.840 But he's the exact same guy that you're claiming dominion over, 1349 01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:00.760 the exact same name and likeness. 1350 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:03.640 Is he under contract to anybody else? Does he work 1351 01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.199 for anybody else? Have you read his contract? Do you 1352 01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.039 know what the what the the the fine print reads. No, No, 1353 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:14.560 you don't, so you don't know what exactly his rights 1354 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.600 are lack thereof. 1355 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:18.600 He signed away his rights to say yes to a 1356 01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.520 diet coke? Ad Is that what you're telling me is 1357 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:22.239 in that contract? 1358 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:24.840 That's neither here nor there. I'm not allowed to discuss 1359 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.199 these things. We do have, we do we practice very 1360 01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:32.039 regularly uh, NDAs. 1361 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:40.720 We practice very regularly. NDAs McMahon says to the diet 1362 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.000 coke proposal, but I fully expect Coca Cola to come 1363 01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:44.800 back with a better one. Right now. Everyone in the 1364 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.560 world wants whole Cogan, but we have to be careful 1365 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.399 about the burdout factor. We've been doing this for three generations. 1366 01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:53.359 We're not looking for a quick book. That's so much, 1367 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.039 are you like? Well, okay, so he seems like it 1368 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.319 a lot of time. You want you want that money 1369 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:04.880 as fast as fucking possible. Yeah, that definitely seemed that way. 1370 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.159 I mean, you're on every fucking platform right money could 1371 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:11.840 buy you put the record out just all over the place. 1372 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.399 What a time, What a time to be a fan 1373 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.159 and to see these things that are happening and transforming 1374 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:23.359 the industry. Well, we talked about Fuji, Vice and oh 1375 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.239 God in a lot of ways, this is the one. 1376 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.199 This is where we have to, you know, focus on 1377 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.359 what so many fans remember as one of the most 1378 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:35.359 bizarre things they really ever did. And he's talked about it. 1379 01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.319 Don Rocco has in a series of interviews over the years. 1380 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:43.560 As he told here. A YouTube channel called a rewind 1381 01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:48.119 Recap relive. It all came from a soap opera that 1382 01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.760 was on television for like forty years. Have you ever 1383 01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:55.039 heard We've talked about it once before when we reviewed 1384 01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:59.560 a Colisseum video that included the reference to this show. 1385 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.680 It was called Search for Tomorrow? Have you ever heard 1386 01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:03.600 of Search for Tomorrow? 1387 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:04.199 No? 1388 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.600 Canty? Thank god? You're all right? What are you doing here? 1389 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:16.640 Your life is in danger? 1390 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:17.399 There ought to kill you. 1391 01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:23.119 Don't miss Search for Tomorrow twelve thirty Eastern eleven thirty Central, 1392 01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:24.079 nine Pacific. 1393 01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:27.920 A true soap that was on the air for like 1394 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.760 forty years. I mentioned from the fifties till eighty six. Yeah, 1395 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:33.720 and it's that soap opera that Don Morocco and Hulkogan 1396 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:35.720 are on. I remember we watched that, or at least 1397 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.840 clips of it. Yes, yes, they were on Search for Tomorrow. Apparently, 1398 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.319 according to Don Morocco, Rowdy Roddy Piper, who was quite 1399 01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:43.359 in demand at the time, was offered a spot on 1400 01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:44.840 the soap and turned it down, and so they went 1401 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:46.960 with Hulk and Morocco at a time when they were 1402 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.000 actually on the road feuding for the WBF Championship. Morocco 1403 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:51.840 would come back to the WBF of course, you know, 1404 01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:53.920 in the early eighties and late seventies, feuding with Bob 1405 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.920 Backland and Jimmy Snook and so many others, took a hiatus, 1406 01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.119 went down to Georgia and then came back in with 1407 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.600 a piper. Actually I mean not at the exact same time, 1408 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.720 but from Georgia both came and yeah, they this is 1409 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.760 where they linked him up with mister Fuji for the 1410 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:10.399 first time. Morocco didn't have a manager early before. Maybe 1411 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.279 he did, but it wasn't mister Fuji. And they've now 1412 01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.640 rebade mister Fuji. Of course in the image of Oddball, right, 1413 01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:20.920 that's an odd job, that's what we're seeing. That's what 1414 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.479 he's supposed to be at. Yeah, more or less as 1415 01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:31.159 any studious listener under the ciniment. A very scrawny odd job, 1416 01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:35.119 very scronny, very scornny, indeed, And so that's search for tomorrow. 1417 01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.880 And so according to Morocco, they got it. They got 1418 01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:40.880 on that show, and that gave Vince the idea of 1419 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.680 doing basically, you know, a campy in house version of 1420 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:46.960 a soap opera episode with some of his talent. Of course, 1421 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.119 Fuji Vice to take off on Miami Vice which was 1422 01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:50.920 one of the hottest shows on television at the time, 1423 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:55.359 these Miami based cops Don Johnson and who's the other guy? 1424 01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:58.680 Oh god, I can think of you, Mike Tyson. I 1425 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.880 think it was exactly you know, Mike Tyson. 1426 01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:06.000 Investigating nightclub and illicit drug related crime in Miami. And 1427 01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:09.439 so they thought would be hilarious to uh, basically remake 1428 01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:12.159 Don Morocco and mister Fuji as a couple of crime 1429 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.000 investigating detectives like some narcotics units. 1430 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:16.880 Guys, what's wrong with that? Sounds great? 1431 01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.439 Agreed, one hundred percent agreed. And it was always a 1432 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.079 huge mystery to me, you know, like where was this 1433 01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:25.119 Like where was this film? Ye, you can see you 1434 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:26.560 can look it up pretty easy that it was shot 1435 01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:28.239 in Baltimore. But that's not enough for me. 1436 01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.600 I need more, right, absolutely, you need way more than that. 1437 01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.600 Don Morocco, I'm talking to a James Morrero Romero on 1438 01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.000 the Wrestling Shoot Interviews page. 1439 01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:41.600 Hey, uh, Search for Tomorrow was was was evidently a 1440 01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:46.479 popular soap at the time. So they had Paul Hogan 1441 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.640 coming to that town to wrestle myself, you know, and 1442 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:54.840 I it was like it took like a few couple 1443 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.359 of hours to do was fast, you know, and it 1444 01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.640 ended up being about you know, two weeks of uh, 1445 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.359 two weeks of shows. You know that I broke up 1446 01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:05.680 the TV station, you know, did a few things and 1447 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:09.880 that's h and that that's how that So Vince, Vince 1448 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:12.319 got in his mind somehow that he was gonna you know, 1449 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:16.239 start doing his own uh doing his own own shows. 1450 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:17.600 Yeah. 1451 01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:20.119 Yeah, so you know what what what Vince saw with 1452 01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.279 Vince said in his you know then that Vince want 1453 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:24.479 Vince Scott. 1454 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:28.199 You know, yeah, yeah, and you like doing those. You 1455 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:29.720 enjoyed that, having fun with food. 1456 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.119 Yeah, They're they're fun, They're okay, they're their extra work, 1457 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:37.119 you know. They they didn't they didn't carve out any 1458 01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:38.199 time so we could do that. 1459 01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:38.520 You know. 1460 01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:44.239 That was aside from aside from making our regular regular appearances, 1461 01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:48.319 you know, where we were booked on a daily schedule 1462 01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:54.119 doing those and then uh, squeezing, squeezing those Uh most 1463 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:56.880 of them were done in Baltimore on that Tuesday night 1464 01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.000 and Tuesday night tight and but a lot of them 1465 01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:02.880 were done uh you know, on the move on location. 1466 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:03.840 Right. 1467 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.399 So we talked about the Inn studio stuff being done 1468 01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:08.600 in Baltimore, but they would shoot like you know the 1469 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:11.000 Hollywood scene we see in other things. They did Fuji chan, 1470 01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:14.359 they did Fuji Bandido. There's a series of skits that 1471 01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:16.319 were Fuji General is supposed to be a play on 1472 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:19.359 the General Hospital soap opera rights having fun with it 1473 01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:21.880 and apologies that that wasn't the James ra Merrow interview 1474 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:25.279 that was the aforementioned rewind Recap Relive episode. There as 1475 01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:29.000 he outlines house search for tomorrow led to Fuji Vice, 1476 01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.680 he mentioned Baltimore, indeed Baltimore, but as we said, we 1477 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:34.279 need more from Baltimore. We need to know more. And 1478 01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.399 I'm like, how can I how can I really zone 1479 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:41.000 in on where Fujivice was shot. I can't accept that 1480 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.319 it's just Ocean City, Maryland, any right, No, you. 1481 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:49.600 Need more than that. But there's too much there absolutely 1482 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:51.439 needs to be needs to be discovered. So what do 1483 01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:53.880 we do here at t left Do we look for clues? Yes? 1484 01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:56.119 Do we look for little things that nobody else has 1485 01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.960 noticed that make it into frame. Do we notice that 1486 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:02.720 while mister Fuji and Don Morocco are investigating the supposed 1487 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.119 beach homicide that serves as the plot point of Fuji 1488 01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:09.560 Vice that they open a barroom door at one point 1489 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:13.680 after supposedly having case the joint to interview witnesses, and 1490 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.960 on the door reads the sign Daisy's Wheelhouse. 1491 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:19.319 Yeah, does that take. 1492 01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:23.600 Us right to nineteen Wakomiko Street, Ocean City, Island. Do 1493 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:25.560 we know the precise address? Yes we do. Does it 1494 01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:30.600 sit today? Yes it does. It's now called the Crawl 1495 01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:33.520 Street Tavern and it's right right on the boardwalk there 1496 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:36.359 at Ocean City and that is where they've shot all 1497 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:38.840 of this Fujivice stuff. Then you can look, you look 1498 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:41.159 through Google Maps and street View and you can start 1499 01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:44.239 to piece together. Okay, yeah, there's that, there's that, And 1500 01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:47.640 I'm trying to find, you know, references to Daisy's Wheelhouse, 1501 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:50.039 hoping it was some kind of landmark or some kind 1502 01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.239 of legendary place. Not a lot on that front, But 1503 01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:55.119 I did find something that we really need. Facebook group 1504 01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:57.279 is called I Love Ocean City, Maryland, and it's got 1505 01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:02.239 a an image of the Crawl Street Tavern and underneath 1506 01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.079 it someone makes a comment, I'm sorry, it will always 1507 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:08.960 be Daisy's Wheelhouse to me. Yah, that's the confirmation your 1508 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:10.920 boys need on that fucking cash. 1509 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:14.600 What the fucking needs. Know what else you need? 1510 01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.640 Someone responds to that comment with the following, Oh yes, 1511 01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:23.279 love Daisy's wheelhouse back in the day. Unfortunately, crackheads started 1512 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:25.720 hanging in there and selling drugs out of that place. 1513 01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.479 That's right, that's what I going. Listen, listen, come on, boss, 1514 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:35.640 fuck it. What else would it be? Why are we 1515 01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:42.880 surprised our favorite places are going to get destroyed by 1516 01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:48.039 crack dealers? Accept that you enjoy a restaurant. Is there 1517 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:52.079 a place you like near where you live? It's going 1518 01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:56.560 to be destroyed by crack dealers. It's going to happen. 1519 01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.720 The sooner you accept that, Wow, the sooner you can 1520 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:02.880 accept yourself. 1521 01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:07.319 Holy shit. You know my first thought when I read 1522 01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:09.800 that crackhead started hanging in there, and I was like, yeah, 1523 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:13.800 it was Don Morocco. She must have been there when 1524 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.279 they were shooting this thing. But it's kind of funny 1525 01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:18.600 that Fuji Vice is supposed to be them investigating a 1526 01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:21.159 drug murder and they go into a place that people 1527 01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.720 remember being a fucking crack den. I think that's where 1528 01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:27.479 we all their respect to the current proprietors. I'm not 1529 01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:30.560 suggesting that's still the case, but yeah, I don't know. 1530 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.600 I never never thought I'd ended up wanting to go 1531 01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.800 to the Ocean City boardwalk. But here we are, Boss. 1532 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:36.560 I think a lapse of pilgrimage may be in order 1533 01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:38.520 at some point. I think so, now that we think so, 1534 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.319 now that we have coordinate, so to speak, maybe we'll 1535 01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.319 get a ringer's roosts across from Allentown, PA, where there's 1536 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:47.640 some guy that remembers, you know, shooting Fuji Vice. 1537 01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:52.920 Oh my god, yes, that's that's yes, yes, and. 1538 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:56.279 The aforementioned wrestling shoot interviews in it. Well, actually James 1539 01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:58.520 Meiro does the wrestling shoot interview stuff, which are which 1540 01:19:58.560 --> 01:19:59.960 are great and we exert from them all the time. 1541 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:02.279 But he did a podcast for a little while with 1542 01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.560 with Morocco, kind of a regular series where they talk 1543 01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:07.159 about odds and ends, theroers life and times. And here 1544 01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.560 is them talking about how they put the show together 1545 01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.039 and the logistics behind doing these skits and and vent 1546 01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:14.560 securing the locations and such. 1547 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.279 I was in Hawaii. I was on vacation in Hawaii. 1548 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.720 I think I came back, come back for something, and 1549 01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.960 what they called me to the office call you got 1550 01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.000 to come back a couple of days. This has got 1551 01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.399 this idea about another another another another Fuji episode. He 1552 01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:36.680 wants to film and we changed your flights. I had 1553 01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:38.319 my wife and two kids with me, I think at 1554 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:42.920 the time, and you guys are inside the boat. Oh, 1555 01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:43.640 they were in the boat. 1556 01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:46.640 So I had my wife. They changed my flight. 1557 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:48.960 I was going back to Newark because I was living 1558 01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.079 in Jersey, so they changed my flights to bolt the 1559 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:55.199 back to Baltimore. I had a limo wait waiting there, 1560 01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:59.920 picked me in my family up, took us to Ocean City, Maryland, 1561 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.640 were filming. We were filming that, and it took me 1562 01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:06.439 right to a nightclub. Did did Vincent? There was evidently 1563 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:10.159 closed for the night or Vincent bought the whole uh, 1564 01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:13.159 the whole nightclub for the night. So they took me 1565 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:14.760 and drop my family off the hotel. 1566 01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.079 Stay in the car. We're going, we're going here to film. 1567 01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:22.520 So in we go to the nightclub, uh this nightclub, 1568 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.000 and they give me you know, that was it, you know, 1569 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.880 the lines, camera action that was you know, that was it. 1570 01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:32.199 That was the start of food device. Then the other 1571 01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:35.279 scenes that they were compiled together that they had, but 1572 01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:39.239 it started. I just I got off the plane in Baltimore, 1573 01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:44.279 took the limo to Ocean City, got my family off 1574 01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.119 at whatever hotel where I was, you know, and then 1575 01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:50.159 I went straight to the nightclub and we started filming 1576 01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:54.039 about this but eight nine, ten a night, and work 1577 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.760 worked into the in the morning, and and then started 1578 01:21:57.800 --> 01:21:59.560 again in a couple next next day or so. 1579 01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:21.119 It's the lapsan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 1580 01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:43.520 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's 1581 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:48.239 a Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and Jpi. 1582 01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:50.680 Soo man to be a fly on the wall for 1583 01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:53.600 these like experimental vignettes. They don't even know what they're doing, 1584 01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:56.560 you know. No, no, they're just trying to like on 1585 01:22:56.720 --> 01:22:59.600 a women a prayer, make something funny and just to 1586 01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.039 be in the room. While Vince is like, you know, 1587 01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:03.479 making a square gesture with his two hands, like this 1588 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.840 is what I want in the frame, and oh god, 1589 01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.039 it must have been such wild, such loose times. 1590 01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.359 You know what we're trying to tell visually, hears we're 1591 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:17.239 trying to create a scene, which is kind of well, 1592 01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.159 not only are we are we projecting the scene that 1593 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.000 you know people are going to see, but really what 1594 01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.399 it is we're trying to create an element of subtext, right, 1595 01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:30.079 a subtextual nature to this experience. 1596 01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.760 And as he explains, like it just became money because 1597 01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.079 Fuji would just flub these lines in ways that you 1598 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:43.720 had to keep Like at one point he had to 1599 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.359 say stand the test of time, and he said stand 1600 01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:47.399 the taste of time. 1601 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.439 Yes, yes, and they kept it in and that was. 1602 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:53.800 Like Nelson Schwegler's thing. According to Morocco, Swegler, I guess 1603 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:56.439 was kind of like a supervising producer for these sketches, 1604 01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:58.520 and uh, it would make the call that you know, 1605 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:00.720 we just we don't have to script Fuji, we don't 1606 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:02.319 have to have him take it again. Just the fact 1607 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.479 that he's fumbling over these English words is just perfect. 1608 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:09.359 And I mean, the guy, the guy is tremendous in 1609 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.920 these in his own way, like he I mean, mister Fuji, 1610 01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:17.239 you know, will investigate what I mean that that that 1611 01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:21.640 that bleeds through on these things, I think. And so 1612 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:25.119 as we uh we pause to consider, uh Fuji, we 1613 01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:26.720 turned first to Don Morocco. 1614 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.279 It's just it was good, you know, it was it 1615 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.479 was actually fun doing it. You know, they would we're 1616 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:36.079 talking about Fuji. They never they didn't. They never they 1617 01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.720 never put a script. They had, you know, a suggestion, 1618 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:43.439 you know, lines, they had lines, you know, lines for Fuji, 1619 01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:44.960 but they never they never held them. 1620 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.119 They never held him to his lines. And the Nelson, 1621 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:49.880 the guys, the guys named. 1622 01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:50.000 It that. 1623 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.079 That's film that the producer, the director of the show, 1624 01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:57.840 he says, we give him, mister Fuji, we give him 1625 01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:00.840 the script, but we don't, you know whatever or is 1626 01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.800 there's one thing, uh was stand the test of time? 1627 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.439 That that that uh Fuji goes, yes, yes, this will 1628 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.680 was stand the taste of time. Instead they let it. 1629 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.079 They let it go, you know, you know, there was 1630 01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:18.359 all that stuff was just brilliant. You know, it just 1631 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.399 it's just it's just and it was natural. It was 1632 01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:24.640 just you know, and and it wasn't it wasn't planned, 1633 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:25.680 It wasn't suggested. 1634 01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:27.159 Okay. 1635 01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.159 I remember I was back here. My wife, my wife 1636 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:33.960 was having a baby. Uh my wife, my wife was pregnant. 1637 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:36.359 In fact, there was my my daughter has put that 1638 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:39.479 shot up. But I got two or three girls robbing 1639 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:41.279 me down on the beach and stuff. My ol lady 1640 01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:45.159 sitting at home, nine muths pregnant. All that stuff's going up. 1641 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:50.159 Yes, they would roll out a photo shoot of Morocco being. 1642 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.439 All you know to do you mind? Yeah? You do 1643 01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:57.880 you mind? Joining? You know, giving my hand job on 1644 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:01.359 a camera? Can we see that? Please? I actually get 1645 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:02.520 a preview right now? 1646 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:04.680 All right, ladies, finish them off. 1647 01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:09.720 Ladies, ladies, we all need a happy ending here, a 1648 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.560 happy ending for this skid. Get to it. 1649 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.479 Six minutes later, there's a pathetic puddle of cum in 1650 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:24.560 Morocco's belly button. Oh no, yeah, exactly. I ever knew 1651 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:28.439 that the best way to get a Morocco impression is 1652 01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:34.079 to go to Burt. Oh, Jesus Christ, you gotta looks 1653 01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:37.399 like Burt, doesn't he Ernie? Just to touch both of 1654 01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:39.479 them put together. He's got the eyebrows of Burt and 1655 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:41.319 the ship shape of Ernie. 1656 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:44.880 And uh and the uh. 1657 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.920 The size of the hair of a big pussy from 1658 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:03.119 nailed it good unseeing that one friend Vini Pastori. You 1659 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:11.600 got that right, Jesus Christ in a poke story, Oh 1660 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:12.159 my god. 1661 01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:14.000 Yeah. So they would do the vignettes with him on 1662 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:16.159 the beach and the surf and all the girls rubbing 1663 01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:18.359 him down. The models they hired, and they did a 1664 01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:21.199 photo spread of the magazine. That was their reintroduction of 1665 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:23.600 Don Morocco for the rock and wrestling era, and they 1666 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:25.279 talk about it a lot in the pages of the magazine. 1667 01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.600 Will get to it, but it's funny you mentioned happy 1668 01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:32.920 endings and him absolutely bursting a nut, erupting like a 1669 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:37.960 Hawaiian volcano on the table. He did talk about a 1670 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.199 scene that's also included in this Colisseum home video release, 1671 01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:45.359 WWF's Most Explosive TNT Show where he's being oiled down 1672 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.119 on the set of TNT. Remember this. It's laying stomach 1673 01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:52.239 down on the sets. Yes, got the towel across his ass, 1674 01:27:52.279 --> 01:27:55.920 and he's got these tube women oiling him down. You 1675 01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:58.359 can kind of tell that it's kind of going off 1676 01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.439 the rails in terms of Morocco expects to be happening. 1677 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:03.560 You can tell he's being oiled a little more liberally 1678 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:08.000 than he expected. Yes, because somehow, some way, ever the river, 1679 01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.680 mister Fuji ends up being the one in possession of 1680 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:14.880 the baby oil course, and things get very Fuji from there. 1681 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:20.640 Two twins from the old Penhouse magazine and they're a 1682 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:25.039 nice looking girl, big you know things. And I got 1683 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:28.359 down there and me and Vince had this big table, 1684 01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:31.239 you know, like a massage table set up, and you know, 1685 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.640 you people are you know, condescending. 1686 01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:36.560 You know, people are so stupid. 1687 01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:38.840 I'm gonna teach you how to how to take a 1688 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.239 proper suntan, but which wasn't a bad idea. And he 1689 01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:46.800 had the two uh, the twin, the twin twin centerfold 1690 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:50.199 girls rubbing the oil on me, which would have been great. 1691 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:53.119 He even had the massaging my feet, which would have 1692 01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:56.279 been wonderful if havn't had been Fuji holding the bottle 1693 01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:59.520 of baby oil, which you know completely you know, ruined 1694 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.920 my my experience, you know, because I'm I'm laying my 1695 01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:08.720 back and okay, you can stop now. You know there's 1696 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:12.199 this puddle. And there was no shower in that Baltimore 1697 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.159 studio either, so this is just just just I'm just 1698 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.279 covered with oil. I've covered with baby on it, just 1699 01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:22.600 you know, just to be a puddle of baby on 1700 01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:27.239 my back and these two uh twin centerfolds that you 1701 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.199 have to come in and rub the oil all over 1702 01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:33.000 me and rub my you know, on my feet, you know. 1703 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.640 And I got out of that thing. I was just 1704 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:37.720 all day long, I was biting myself down and I 1705 01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:40.319 couldn't you know, I was just soaked with oil as 1706 01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:42.119 a yeah. 1707 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:42.359 That's a. 1708 01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:47.680 It's funnier on the inside. It wasn't funny. I'm just yeah, 1709 01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:51.399 I'm biting my tongue the whole time. You know, there's 1710 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:54.439 a big you know, it wasn't a bottle of baby. 1711 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.279 It was one of those big, you know, sixteen thirty 1712 01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:01.159 two ounce bottles, and then we use all that much 1713 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:01.439 of it. 1714 01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:04.600 I mean, we're talking to a Diddy sized bottle of baby. 1715 01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:15.279 What the fu Yeah, he's a very interesting storyteller. Yeah, 1716 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:17.000 I agree, I agree, mister. 1717 01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:19.680 I mean, can you picture like being in that situation, 1718 01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:22.079 like tapes rolling, like we're doing this, and then you 1719 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:24.399 realize Fuji is the one with the bottle of oil 1720 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.039 and you can't you can't stop him. He's going, you 1721 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:29.880 know what he's gonna do, He's gonna do it got 1722 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.560 six times heavier than is anywhere near necessary to achieve 1723 01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:36.159 the goal of the skit. I wonder if these two 1724 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:38.800 women that we see on this skit are penthouse models, 1725 01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:40.159 like he remembers or not. I don't know. 1726 01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.439 Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't put it past them for 1727 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:46.880 doing that, But honest. 1728 01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:48.640 I do love the idea of Fuji just ah yes, 1729 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:52.079 and applying all all of this ah. 1730 01:30:55.359 --> 01:31:04.399 Ah, my Oko, he called Don Morocco by yokozuna, ah 1731 01:31:05.319 --> 01:31:07.560 baby oil ah. 1732 01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:13.520 Thus, thus the highly entertaining alliance between Don Morocco and 1733 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:15.920 mister Fuji is born and in large part on the 1734 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:19.199 set of Tuesday Night Titans and during sketches that premiered 1735 01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:21.720 on the course of the broadcast and are featured here 1736 01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:24.079 on the Coliseum home video release. I want you to 1737 01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:26.159 go back, boss, if you could, to the February third, 1738 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:29.600 eighty five WWF magazine that we've already read. Yes, we 1739 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.920 go on past the Tuesday Titans article that you have 1740 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:35.159 already shared with the Solar System. Go over to page twenty, 1741 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:38.079 because yes, I'm very glad you were warming up your 1742 01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:42.720 Fuji pipes. It's time for a WWF magazine feature in 1743 01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:46.000 which mister has interviewed about the nature of his newfound 1744 01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.640 alliance with Don Morocco that is so spectacularly featured on 1745 01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:55.239 WWF's most explosive TNT show. And I'll be your your questioner, 1746 01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:58.560 and you I'll read the walk up here and Harry 1747 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:03.520 Fujiwara himself we'll be answering questions in the time period. 1748 01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:07.000 The name Don Morocco conjures up many images or fans 1749 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:09.640 in the World Wrestling Federation. Morocco's fierce and long battle 1750 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.520 with Jimmy Superfly Snooker will probably never be forgotten for 1751 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.079 any WWF visionados who follow the course of that event. 1752 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:20.039 That's Vince in his most despicable nature. Hip there is 1753 01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:23.520 Morocco insulted Superfly with an expression known only in Snook's 1754 01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:26.560 native Fijian tongue. It's just the kind of fellow Morocco is. 1755 01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:28.880 He reaches inside a man and finds the things which 1756 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.039 are dearest to him, then he uses those things as 1757 01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:34.359 points of vulnerability. If Morocco discovered that a man is 1758 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.359 extremely fond of his younger sister, then Morocco, in order 1759 01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.000 to get inside the man's skin, would constantly degrade the 1760 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:45.600 man's sister. As Vince continues to sketch out ideas in 1761 01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:50.960 the pages of his own magazine, what if Morocco found 1762 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:54.800 out a man wanted his sister, he would degrade that 1763 01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.600 man's sister, right like you want my sister. Well, I'm 1764 01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.039 going to talk bad about your sister, Okay, great stuff 1765 01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:05.239 is what I'm trying to say, great copy. If Morocco 1766 01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:06.600 knew that one of his opponents was a. 1767 01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:10.560 Dog honestly, honestly, they said, if Morocco discovered that that 1768 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:13.079 a man is extremely fond of his younger sister, then Morocco, 1769 01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:15.960 in order to get inside the man's skin, would constantly 1770 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.399 degrade the man's sister. It's great, what are your thoughts 1771 01:33:19.439 --> 01:33:20.680 on that? Please let us know. 1772 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:27.640 Right to forty second Street, wherever they'll calls care of 1773 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.199 Arthur Morowitz, wherever his name was. If Morocco knew that 1774 01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:33.079 one of his opponents was a dog lover, then Morocco 1775 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.000 might do something like kick every dog in sight in 1776 01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:37.000 front of the guy, just to get him enraged, such 1777 01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.039 as the nature of Well, Fuji can do something about 1778 01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:41.960 that too, such as the nature of Don Morocco. He 1779 01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:44.399 seems to be without conscience and without morals. Who then 1780 01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.000 could be better as Morocco's manager than the Master of 1781 01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:50.840 pain himself, mister Fuji with his sadistic laugh, master of pain? 1782 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:53.800 Who's ever called mister Fuji the master of pain? 1783 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:54.439 I know? 1784 01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:58.920 With his sadistic laugh accompanied by the surliest of grins, Fuji, indeed, 1785 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.640 ah evinced with indeed is the perfect compliment to Morocco 1786 01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.239 at ringside. But we haven't seen Morocco for a while, 1787 01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:09.000 whereas he been. We've been told that after Santana defeated 1788 01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:11.800 Morocco for the Intercontinental title, Morocco decided that he needed 1789 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:14.600 a rest and retreated to his native Hawaii to unwind 1790 01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:17.520 and retrain for his wrestling future. You have to wonder 1791 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:21.439 if perhaps Morocco felt demoralized and totally defeated after the 1792 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:24.119 Tacula Mexico star defeated him for the title. After all, 1793 01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:26.760 Morocco boasted that if he ever was defeated, it wouldn't 1794 01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:29.880 be by the likes of Tito Santana. But Santana persevered, 1795 01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.560 and he continued to challenge Morocco time and time again 1796 01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:36.800 until yes, he finally was successful. Perhaps in Morocco's own mind, 1797 01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:39.119 he couldn't stand the disgrace of defeat in the hands 1798 01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:41.800 of a man who, he said over and over again 1799 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.359 was too inferior, too inexperienced, and definitely too much of 1800 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:47.840 a whimp to ever take the belt away from him. 1801 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.079 WWF Magazines tried in vain over the past several months 1802 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:53.079 to reach down Morocco at his home for an interview, 1803 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:56.239 but we were able to convince mister Fuji, his new manager, 1804 01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:01.800 to discuss Morocco's future with us. Mister Fuji, how did 1805 01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:03.399 you become Don Morocco's manager? 1806 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:07.560 Ah, Don has had very good managers in the past, 1807 01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:12.039 and he was looking for something different myself. I have 1808 01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.079 proved myself as a great wrestler. This is like he 1809 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.399 would not say these it's so bad. You know, it's 1810 01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:23.760 so like he would. This is not at all. But 1811 01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:28.359 now I am stepping out of the wrestling Lime Night. 1812 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:32.880 I am not backing down from my challenges. But mister 1813 01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:37.439 Fuji's primary goal now is to be very good manager 1814 01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:38.359 for Don Morocco. 1815 01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:40.319 But you took out the other good You took the 1816 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:44.640 out that's so awesome. That is what he adds is 1817 01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:45.199 how he'd read. 1818 01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.359 Actually what he said, Yes, i'mon't given me by Morocco 1819 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:54.279 to teach him the sadistic part of wrestling, to teach 1820 01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:57.920 him how to make opponents scream and plead for mercy. 1821 01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:00.199 As he spoke, mister fouo. 1822 01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:06.000 Oh did they put a description of him in this 1823 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:08.239 same block of text? This is like a Q and 1824 01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:11.960 A format in the magazine, and there's no paragraph break, 1825 01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:14.880 they just go ready to As he spoke, mister Fuji 1826 01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:17.399 had his head cocked slightly to one side and nodded 1827 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:19.319 up and down in that ever assuring way of his 1828 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:22.279 that yes, mister Fuji, indeed, and there's Vincy's in the 1829 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.279 word indeed again knew how to teach sadism and pain 1830 01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.640 as a manager. Why do you wear top hat and tails? 1831 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:30.359 Are you just trying to draw attention to yourself or 1832 01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:32.239 what reasons would you have for coming to the ring 1833 01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:34.359 and formal attire when. 1834 01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:38.920 Japan surrendered to us? That's actually written that way. I 1835 01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:41.680 saw pictures and history books on the signing of the 1836 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:48.039 agreements at that time, amper Hoohito Hirohito wore formal attire, 1837 01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:51.720 and I now I'm wearing the same formal attire to 1838 01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:53.960 avenge proud Japanese ana. 1839 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:56.279 We haven't seen mister Morocco for a while in the 1840 01:36:56.319 --> 01:36:58.439 World Wrestling Federation. We understand that after he lost the 1841 01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:00.760 belt to Tito, perhaps he went by come to Wahii 1842 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:03.199 with his tail tucked between his legs. As mister Fuji 1843 01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:04.960 prepared to answer this question, the look of anger was 1844 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.159 clearly in his eyes. He pushed himself up off the 1845 01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:08.840 chair a little with his two hands and looked this 1846 01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:10.399 interviewer squarely in the eye. 1847 01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:15.119 You say, Morocco lost belt to Santana. Have you seen 1848 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:19.039 a tape of Morocco losing belt to Santana? Have you 1849 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:21.199 seen pictures of Tito pinning Morocco? 1850 01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:24.720 No, why you didn't give you a chance? Answer? 1851 01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:28.880 But okay, what if it was? Yes, mister Fuji, say no, 1852 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:34.800 he said there, He say there is no tape. Say 1853 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:39.760 there is no tape, there are no pictures. Yes, Morocco 1854 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.680 Santana wrestled in Boston, Massachusetts, on the night when Tito 1855 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:46.920 supposedly won the belt, but he did not win the belt. 1856 01:37:47.439 --> 01:38:02.079 What unlike Maa Kazuma, I'm like, what my Mayo ko Zuma? Shit? 1857 01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:02.880 That would hit good? 1858 01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:09.600 Morocco became very disgusted during the match and realized that 1859 01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:14.279 Santana was not a worthy opponent for him. He left 1860 01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:18.560 the match. He left the ring in totally discussed and disillusionment. 1861 01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:20.720 Dissolutions. 1862 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:25.760 Would never say the solution ever, and on his way 1863 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.880 out of the arena, he threw the inner cartinental belt 1864 01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:32.159 in a garbage can in the back of the arena. 1865 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:38.560 Now everybody knows Mexicans like to look around and trash. 1866 01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:48.960 Oh my god, I'm sure will deny this, but it's 1867 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:56.039 a known fact. This is great. Tito found championship belt 1868 01:38:56.079 --> 01:39:00.600 in the garage and victory. Oh could I say garbage can? 1869 01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:04.359 Not the garage? He found the title in the garage. Oh, 1870 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:08.199 how poetic, how evocative? You found it in the garage. 1871 01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:14.640 Tino found the internment title next to the Christmas decoration. 1872 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:18.239 This is. 1873 01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.399 W w F Hall of Famer. 1874 01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:31.079 Forema, and this is for Jack. He wants to know 1875 01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:40.920 where I found my Intercontinental title. Well, Jack, it's a 1876 01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:45.079 story I've told often. I found it in my garage. 1877 01:39:47.079 --> 01:39:51.960 Often misspelled in publications as garbage The. 1878 01:39:52.079 --> 01:40:12.640 Lapt wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys 1879 01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:35.119 need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed 1880 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.680 Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and JP Soro. 1881 01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:44.560 Yeah, right, go ahead, o. 1882 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:50.680 Tato found the championship belt in the garbage can and 1883 01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:54.720 calame victory for having one and defeated Morocco. That's the 1884 01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:57.560 real story of House and Tana got the belt, and 1885 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.920 now Morocco is going to come back and take his 1886 01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:01.920 belt back again. 1887 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:07.279 Hmmm. Yes, mister Fuji. But now when Morocco comes back 1888 01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:09.920 to challenge again for the Inconadinental title, the challenge must 1889 01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:11.960 be made to Greg the hem of Valentine. Mister Morocco 1890 01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:15.560 has always had a great deal of respect for Valentine. 1891 01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:17.920 How would he feel about challenging him for the title. 1892 01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:23.279 Morocco has no fear. Valentine is a very great wrestler, 1893 01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:27.439 strong and tough. My Morocco is a bigger man and 1894 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:37.760 stronger because of my Japanese philosophy. My philosophy is always concentration, 1895 01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.439 never lose concentration in the ring, because when concentration is lost, 1896 01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:48.920 wrestler becomes vulnerable. It's the same in any sport. If 1897 01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:55.359 quarterback does not concentrate, they pick very random times for director, 1898 01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:59.000 you know, for him to him to mix miss like 1899 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:03.479 certain words, herds and stuff like. It's if quarterback does 1900 01:42:03.560 --> 01:42:06.560 not concentrated on to receive a downfield, he gets intercepted. 1901 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:10.439 If Morocco does not concentrate on his opponent in the ring, 1902 01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:14.039 he will get pinned. But I have no doubts or 1903 01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:18.640 fears about Morocco. He is learning many Japanese customs and 1904 01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:21.840 studying very hard Oriental teachings of psychology. 1905 01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:25.439 He just goes in there and has the same matches 1906 01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:26.960 his career, you. 1907 01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.680 Know, same fucking thing. We fucking kick punch and you know. 1908 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:33.880 But do not think that the inter continental title he 1909 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.880 is the only goal for Morocco and I have oh 1910 01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:42.560 no that Morocco I have in the World Wrestling entertainment. 1911 01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:45.840 Indeed not. We want to challenge Hulk Hogan for the 1912 01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:50.039 greatest title there is, that fee Wait Championship. 1913 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:52.840 There's a great photo here of Don Morocco walking through 1914 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:55.199 I don't know the deserts of Syria. 1915 01:42:55.680 --> 01:43:00.920 For some reason yet and somebody's fence right some gate 1916 01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:03.600 that they exit there again, yeap or enter? He looks 1917 01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:05.439 he looks very uncomfortable. 1918 01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:07.840 Yeah, I'm sure it's not his Number one must have 1919 01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:09.800 been that Kuwait tour they did, or the Saudi tours 1920 01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:13.640 they did around then. Now that your plans are to 1921 01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:16.000 have Morocco return to the World Wrestling Federation, what kind 1922 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:17.800 of training techniques are you using for him? 1923 01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:23.079 My great plan was to give Morocco much punishment, to 1924 01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.079 make him tougher than he has ever been before. I 1925 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.800 signed Morocco for a tour in the Middle Eastern countries 1926 01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.239 to begin his re entry process. I wanted him to 1927 01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:37.119 wrestle various wrestlers and all that parts of the world 1928 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:40.720 they take pain. I had him runny at one hundred 1929 01:43:40.720 --> 01:43:44.000 and ten degrees in the day. Every other day we 1930 01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:47.199 went out on the local fishing boats in Kuwait called 1931 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:53.119 a doe a dow. But I took him maybe fifty 1932 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:57.079 miles out and made him jump in the water and 1933 01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:01.159 swim back to shore. Sir, that means he swam in 1934 01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.920 the Bay of Kuwait with shocks and dolphins, but he 1935 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:09.119 had no fear. His main thought was to get to shore. 1936 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:12.319 We controlled his mind at all times. 1937 01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:13.439 Who's we? 1938 01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:18.880 I don't know who's we? I have told Don that way. 1939 01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:23.199 When one cannot control one's mind, then that means trouble. 1940 01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:26.520 And uh who what did it mean? Trouble for it 1941 01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:28.439 King of the Ring ninety three for the title. 1942 01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:29.720 Who was in trouble? 1943 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:33.800 Potentially it meant it meant that if he my uncle Doma, 1944 01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:46.840 let's go my uncle Oma bulking up. 1945 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:55.359 You can say that again, turkey asshole dipped in Mayo. 1946 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:57.600 Oh my god, Oh, do you feel that you have 1947 01:44:57.720 --> 01:44:59.920 total control of Don Morocco? Is he committed to your thing? 1948 01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:00.880 And strategy. 1949 01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:04.960 All right, Morocco will be back. We'll go back to 1950 01:45:05.079 --> 01:45:07.720 some old ways and he will use my thinking to 1951 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:12.039 combine together with his. Two heads are better than one. 1952 01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:14.840 When Morocco is in the Middle East, he weighed two 1953 01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:17.960 hundred and eighty five pounds and he is now up 1954 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:20.239 to three hundred pounds of muscle and grit. 1955 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:22.840 Muscling grits is more like it. 1956 01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:30.600 He's eating. He's eating muscles and grit. Do you anticipate 1957 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.479 going on more tours? I will take him on a 1958 01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:36.479 lot more tours and take him all around the world 1959 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:39.279 to different countries, so that he can beat all the 1960 01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:40.319 top wrestlers there. 1961 01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:42.119 What do you hope to gain? Are you managing his 1962 01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:42.840 money as well? 1963 01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:44.119 Good question. 1964 01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:48.199 All of a sudden he becomes very lawyerlike. 1965 01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:54.640 Good question. My only manager who tas take nothing from Morocco. 1966 01:45:55.159 --> 01:45:58.159 I give him everything. This is a trip for me. 1967 01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:01.960 I want to be a great manager. I will fulfill 1968 01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.359 my job as manager for Don Morocco, helping him to 1969 01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:08.119 be the best at what he does. In his way, 1970 01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:11.600 he will take care of mister Fuji. Money is not 1971 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:12.560 that important to me. 1972 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:16.279 Look at that picture of him on the aforementioned BOATKOI. 1973 01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:17.760 Oh my god, look for the fucking goofball. 1974 01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:20.079 We did hear you mentioned that while Morocco was in 1975 01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:22.039 the Middle East, he invested quite heavily in gold. 1976 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:28.119 Yes, Morocco invested over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 1977 01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:31.920 in gold. This was money that he won from participating 1978 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:38.600 in different events in Middle East. Wrestlers came from Pakistan, Egypt, Orman, Syria, etc. 1979 01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:40.800 Et cetera. Like he would say, et cetera, et cetera. 1980 01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:43.399 Of course he would that's in his vocab. 1981 01:46:44.359 --> 01:46:47.760 Some over six foot five inches and weighed over four 1982 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:51.319 hundred and fifty pounds looked like Japanese sumo wrestlers like 1983 01:46:51.399 --> 01:47:00.920 Mayoko Zuma, and Morocco beat them so fast. They came 1984 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.960 with forty thousand and fifty thousand dollars to challenge Morocco 1985 01:47:04.039 --> 01:47:06.800 for the match in one match, and Indian bet one 1986 01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:09.239 hundred and fifty thousand dollars that he go beat Morocco, 1987 01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:11.920 and Morocco beat him in less than three minutes. 1988 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:13.920 Hoping you're starting to get some of the absurdity around 1989 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:16.760 the Don Morocco character. That's part of why Fuji Vice 1990 01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.680 made sense. You know, It's like they're like creating like 1991 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:24.159 all these fictionalized ludicrous plot points about the guy and 1992 01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:27.279 Fuji is the foil that makes it all possible. Yeah, 1993 01:47:27.399 --> 01:47:29.199 do you mean he really didn't have any competition on 1994 01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:29.880 the Middle East tour? 1995 01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:34.760 He went through all of them like yesterday's newspaper. Again, 1996 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:38.479 my philosophy of thinking positive for yourself. And Morocco is 1997 01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:44.319 working very hard. He's serving thirty four waves, patterning, working out, 1998 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:47.479 training and running. He would be in tip top form 1999 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:51.479 when he Oh yeah, the way he comes back into 2000 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:58.000 the main arenas of the World Wrestling Entertainment, Oh, very 2001 01:47:58.039 --> 01:47:59.039 good entertainment. 2002 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:02.079 App sure, then Morocco has never been a very popular wrestler. 2003 01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:03.600 Does it affect him at all that he doesn't get 2004 01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:04.520 support from the fans? 2005 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:08.039 Yes, it has a fact. The more the fans boo him, 2006 01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:11.199 the more he loves it, the more they throw things 2007 01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:13.920 at him, the more they spit at him. Then he 2008 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:16.720 knows he is hurting their loved ones in the ring, 2009 01:48:17.479 --> 01:48:21.720 like Snooker, Santana and others. Then Morocco's mind, where he 2010 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:23.720 is booed, he is a success. 2011 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:30.039 What what course do you plan to take if the 2012 01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:34.279 WWF Committee Capital C doesn't grant Morocco a shot at 2013 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:34.640 the title. 2014 01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:39.359 What committee, by the way, the general, the general w 2015 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:41.000 w com Committee. 2016 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:42.359 Not even the championship committee. 2017 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:48.680 Right the boarder. In fact, he say board of Directors. 2018 01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:51.760 Of course he would the Board of Directors will have 2019 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:54.600 a petition and we'll see mister Fuji's lawyers if we 2020 01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:58.680 cannot get at Hulk Hogan. Hogan without exception, he's the 2021 01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:02.359 greatest champion for he would say that, yeah, he is 2022 01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:05.600 the strongest and most talented. And Morocco and mister Fuji 2023 01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.680 will not be satisfied until we have had our chance 2024 01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:13.199 to challenge Hulk Hogan. Everyone in ww must get ready 2025 01:49:13.239 --> 01:49:16.560 for Don Magnificent Morocco. When he and mister Fuji returned, 2026 01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:21.000 they will want to challenge everyone. Mister Fuji understands there 2027 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.079 is even some new meat on the counter, having names 2028 01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:28.199 like Billy Jack, Billy Jack, Barry Wyndham, black Jack Mulligan. 2029 01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:30.239 We are ready for all of you, but the question 2030 01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:31.479 is are you ready for us? 2031 01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:40.319 And are you ready for who? I? Are you ready 2032 01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:44.399 for my Ocu Luman, my god tremendous. So we're off 2033 01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:46.479 to the races with these two. And you know, we 2034 01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:48.000 gotta find a boat. If this is going to be 2035 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:49.960 fuji vice. You gotta have a boat because they have 2036 01:49:50.039 --> 01:49:51.720 to be pursuing drug. 2037 01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:53.960 Oh my god. 2038 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:56.840 And I'm like, man, where did they get this boat from? 2039 01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:57.159 You know? 2040 01:49:57.680 --> 01:49:59.199 Do they have a boat, do they own a boat? 2041 01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:00.760 Do they rent a boat? And then I saw, wait 2042 01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:02.119 a minute, what does it say on the boat? What's 2043 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:06.800 the name? The boat is called? The Angler? Says the Angler, 2044 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:08.920 which I thought was like some kind of wrestling pun 2045 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:13.479 but no, yeah, right to this day, boss, you can 2046 01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:18.560 charter the Angler on the Ocean City boardwalk for leisure 2047 01:50:19.199 --> 01:50:24.279 cruise get out of here. Five generations of service. Around 2048 01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:27.760 the turn of the twentieth century, Charles Rowland's Bunting, great 2049 01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:31.079 great grandfather of Buntings, purchased the property where the Angler 2050 01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:34.199 Marina now stands. At that time, there was no dock, 2051 01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:36.760 only marsh grass through which the Buntings pulled their sail, 2052 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:39.720 Beteu and rowboats to shore. While the elder Bunting worked 2053 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.560 on a fish pond boat a fish pound boat, his 2054 01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.399 five sons began the small fishing business. As business grew 2055 01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:47.680 and the dock was needed, the Buntings were issued Ocean 2056 01:50:47.760 --> 01:50:50.600 City's first dock permit, so the boat there on on. 2057 01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:54.680 Fuji Vice comes from the first dock permit ever issued 2058 01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:58.119 in Ocean City. Lumber was brought in from West Ocean 2059 01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.479 City by a scow for the only access the island 2060 01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:03.399 other than by water, was over a narrow railroad bridge. 2061 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:06.840 When completed, the Bunting dock became a favorite relaxation spot. 2062 01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:10.000 Local residents and visitors alike enjoyed sitting out over the 2063 01:51:10.079 --> 01:51:12.720 Quiet Bay waters as the years war Now, why are 2064 01:51:12.760 --> 01:51:14.680 they always bunting? Weren't they actually taking a real heat? 2065 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:18.000 You don't always have to advance runners here. As the 2066 01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:20.119 years wore on, the five sons were on to pursue 2067 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:22.479 their own careers. In the winter of nineteen thirty four, 2068 01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:26.000 Charles' son William returned to Ocean City from North Carolina. 2069 01:51:27.159 --> 01:51:29.319 A year later, he bought a house and property adjoining 2070 01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:31.760 his father's dock. There, he built a small twenty by 2071 01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:34.840 twenty building where he sold fishing bait, cool sodas, and 2072 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:37.520 rented small boats. Sounds like what a frit should have 2073 01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:40.520 done with this life. Frankly, yeah right. His wife, Louise, 2074 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:43.279 an enterprising young woman, started selling homemade pies. It soon 2075 01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:45.920 became obvious that they needed to serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 2076 01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:47.960 Small tables were placed in the fishing office and it 2077 01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.920 became a combined business venture. Along came World War Two. 2078 01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:53.840 The captain and his boat, the Angler, were called to 2079 01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:56.439 serve in the Coast Guard. When he returned, he found 2080 01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:58.800 that storms had washed away nearly all of the old dock. 2081 01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:01.239 A new dock in addition, were built in nineteen forty five. 2082 01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:03.720 By the spring of that year, William and Louise Bunting's 2083 01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:06.079 only son, William Porter, returned from the coast Guard and 2084 01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:08.279 joined his parents in the business. He capta in the 2085 01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.319 sport fishing boat Sunshine during the day and assisted in 2086 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:13.720 the operation of the restaurant during the evenings. His wife, 2087 01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:16.239 Martha participated in the family operation in much the same 2088 01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:19.000 capacity as Louise. The four Buntings continue to run the 2089 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:21.800 business until Bill Signior retired, followed by Louise. Bill and 2090 01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:25.000 Martha's two daughters then joined their parents. Now five generations later, 2091 01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:27.359 Julie and Jane's children are learning the ropes of the 2092 01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:30.680 family business. Julie's children, Megan, Jane, r Jay, and Mara, 2093 01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:33.079 along with it Jane's sun Boarder, are becoming integral parts 2094 01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.880 of the Angler tradition. Much of the history of the 2095 01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:38.279 Angler Marina could not have been written without the loyalty 2096 01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:41.760 and devotion of our staff. There are many who deserve accolades. 2097 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.520 The Bunting family looks forward to continuing to serve you, 2098 01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:47.279 your children, and their children in the manner to which 2099 01:52:47.359 --> 01:52:49.760 they are committed. Of course, none of us would be 2100 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:51.880 here were it not for our many, many friends who 2101 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:55.159 have patronized us faithfully for over eighty years. 2102 01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:56.359 We of the. 2103 01:52:56.399 --> 01:53:00.880 Angler, thank you, wow, and we of the Angler on 2104 01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:04.399 the wrestling side, thank you folks for providing boat for 2105 01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:07.960 the skit that we won't soon forget Fujivis. So I 2106 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:10.960 think that's definitely a lapsed pilgrimage now because we can 2107 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:12.680 also get on the boat that they were on. 2108 01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:15.920 Oh absolutely, oh fucking no question. 2109 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:17.680 You just picture them out there with a camera just 2110 01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:19.960 walking the boardwalk, shooting all this stuff, and then look, 2111 01:53:20.039 --> 01:53:23.199 here's a boat. Let's use the boat yep from and 2112 01:53:23.239 --> 01:53:25.560 they actually get real coast guard in the Fujivis scene 2113 01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.239 that they were patrolling the waterways. They somehow no shit, 2114 01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:31.159 yeah they got I don't know, they just filmed the 2115 01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:33.159 coast guard boat that happened to be traversing the waters. 2116 01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:36.359 I think they kind of won their cooperation just for fun, 2117 01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:38.439 because it didn't seem like they just at first it 2118 01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:40.199 looked like it's just sort of like b roll. They 2119 01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:42.199 captured of a coast Guard boat moving and it doesn't 2120 01:53:42.199 --> 01:53:44.840 seem to be moving with any particular urgency like you 2121 01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:47.039 would expect if he's chasing down a drug boat. And 2122 01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:51.159 then they add the cheesiest police sirens over the moving boat. 2123 01:53:51.479 --> 01:53:52.800 Oh my god, it's so bad. 2124 01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:53.640 Oh it's awful. 2125 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:57.239 It's so purposely low rent. It's easy to do purpose 2126 01:53:57.279 --> 01:53:59.279 little and ironic and low rent when you don't have 2127 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:01.800 any other joy in the matter. Really, yeah, a lot 2128 01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:03.920 easier to poke fun at yourself in that circumstance. But 2129 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:08.199 it's explosive TNT show it's right in that sweet spot 2130 01:54:08.279 --> 01:54:12.199 and the Colosseum collection continues to roll on. You mentioned serendipity, 2131 01:54:12.279 --> 01:54:14.600 We mentioned it at the top. You mentioned the Western component, 2132 01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:16.039 which we're going to get a taste stuff as well 2133 01:54:16.359 --> 01:54:18.760 through the course of looking at the great TNT Moments 2134 01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:21.479 is featured on the video cassette Boss We're Riding High. 2135 01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:24.159 We're Riding High. Coming off the latest episode of Under 2136 01:54:24.159 --> 01:54:26.119 the cinemat, if I may say, one of the finest 2137 01:54:26.159 --> 01:54:28.079 ever Once upon a Time. 2138 01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:30.720 In the West, Once upon a Time in the West. 2139 01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:36.079 It's it is one of the great great Westerns. We 2140 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:40.000 get to dive into Sergiolione, we get to dive into 2141 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:43.000 Henry Fonda, we get to take a look at a 2142 01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:47.359 little deeper into Woody Strode, who has been just a blessing. 2143 01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:50.920 Honest to God, He's Woody Strode is just fantastic and 2144 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:53.520 is truly a blessing under the cinema because he does 2145 01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:59.439 provide a significant amount of classic films. And you know, 2146 01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.079 we've only we've only done two, so we've we've only 2147 01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:05.039 really really scratched the very very bare minimum the surface 2148 01:55:05.039 --> 01:55:07.800 as to what what he Strode can provide for us. 2149 01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:12.039 And I'm so happy people are excited about it. It 2150 01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:16.119 was such a fun, fun kind of just to look 2151 01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:19.000 back at the Western itself to kind of really to 2152 01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:24.600 discover the the the similarities of the of what the 2153 01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:30.399 the original design of the Western live show and and 2154 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:34.600 it's it's really just a cousin of professional wrestling absolutely 2155 01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:39.840 as we discovered, you know, again creating this this this realistic, 2156 01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:42.399 you know, an attempt at at at fooling people into 2157 01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:46.439 a realistic show, and it's all you know, it's all phony. 2158 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:49.399 Right, it's all like what we swear people were like 2159 01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:52.680 in the frontier days for entertainment, like a freege show. 2160 01:55:53.159 --> 01:55:55.119 Well, which is funny because like when they first invented 2161 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:57.600 as we discovered, it's like it's happening at the time too, 2162 01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:58.760 like it's happening. 2163 01:55:59.279 --> 01:56:03.039 Within the actual era of this, of the of the Frontier, 2164 01:56:03.119 --> 01:56:06.600 and and people just didn't have the means to travel 2165 01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:08.479 to see it themselves. So you could sell them as 2166 01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:10.760 anything being You could sell them as I don't know, 2167 01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:14.680 mister Fuji being a diabolical mastermind all of a sudden, 2168 01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:17.880 you can sell them exactly, you know, any number of 2169 01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.319 misaligned things to achieve a purpose. 2170 01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:26.359 So it's just wild. Yeah, it was fun great, great episode. 2171 01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:29.720 And definitely worth three months worth of under the cinemat dollar. 2172 01:56:29.840 --> 01:56:32.000 Let alone the fact that they keep coming hard and heavy. 2173 01:56:32.680 --> 01:56:35.520 What a great one. And look, we didn't even we 2174 01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.800 didn't even appreciate the fact. And someone in the Solar 2175 01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:40.880 system pointed it out. And I should have remembered this 2176 01:56:40.920 --> 01:56:42.920 from the lapsed Funk when he came to the ring 2177 01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:45.680 in the n WA in eighty nine. Yeah, is the 2178 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.399 harmonica man song is what he came out to yep. 2179 01:56:48.439 --> 01:56:50.079 And I remember when we were doing it, I was like, 2180 01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:52.119 what is this significance of that song and taking a 2181 01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:54.720 glimpse but not sitting down to watch the film. And 2182 01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:58.000 now I'm so much more connected and you will be 2183 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.439 too if you check this out. It's highly commended for 2184 01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:02.920 the executive producer here and above. At patreon dot com, 2185 01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:05.680 Slash the Lapsed Fan available now, as are all episodes 2186 01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:07.439 of much of the cinemat and everything else we do 2187 01:57:07.560 --> 01:57:11.479 exclusive for patrons. I feel so much more connected to 2188 01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:14.159 like why they would have chose that song for the 2189 01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:15.479 heel Terry funk. 2190 01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:20.720 Well, and and the fact that they you know, how 2191 01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:25.439 connected so many Western themed wrestlers are. You know, there's 2192 01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:28.439 a lot of there's a lot of music being used 2193 01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:33.039 that is either of written by Ennio Morricone or it's 2194 01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:39.159 it's uh, you know, inspired by you know. And and 2195 01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:43.079 it's no surprising that that score there are so many 2196 01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:49.119 you can you can you can just see that that 2197 01:57:49.239 --> 01:57:53.520 has the DNA of so many other scores. Yes, like 2198 01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.319 so many scores, I should say, so many other scores 2199 01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.560 written between Once Upon a Time in the West and 2200 01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:02.359 now I'll have the DNA of Once Upon a Time 2201 01:58:02.399 --> 01:58:04.079 in the West in it. It's unbelievable. 2202 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.960 Less than Adam Page heading into the big annual aw 2203 01:58:07.239 --> 01:58:09.359 S Datium showed to challenge for the world title and 2204 01:58:09.479 --> 01:58:12.920 his remixed song is the harmonica Man kind of strains 2205 01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.039 and you get like, where what that means to people 2206 01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:17.960 who are familiar with the Western genre to hear that 2207 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:20.399 harmonica sound. I didn't realize it was so haunting, you know, 2208 01:58:20.439 --> 01:58:22.680 I mean, it sounds haunting, But now that I picture 2209 01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:26.520 Charles Brunson playing it at these moments of high drama 2210 01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:29.600 in the film, and it's like, yeah, he sees like 2211 01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:33.199 a pied piper of the West. Yep and great, great stuff. 2212 01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:36.079 Highest recommendation, it's now is the time if you haven't 2213 01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:38.960 taken the plunge. So wonderful to hear Solar System members 2214 01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:42.439 say things like, listen to the preamble during work on Friday, 2215 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:44.439 went home and made a night of watching the film. 2216 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:45.439 That's a beautiful thing. 2217 01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:48.520 Yes, Oh, that's what I love when we're able to 2218 01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:53.159 do that. I love it so much when people watch 2219 01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:55.439 the film with us on Friday night. 2220 01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:58.119 Let wrestling be urentre into movies you otherwise wouldn't watch. 2221 01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:00.399 I certainly have been able to appreciate the value of 2222 01:59:00.439 --> 01:59:03.000 that over the years we've been doing UTC and also 2223 01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:05.600 available at patreon dot com slash last Plan of Courses 2224 01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:08.399 AD free versions of this show deep dives a day early, 2225 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:11.560 and you also get our monthly premium live calls of 2226 01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:14.199 w B Modern products, so you don't have to watch 2227 01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:17.119 this stuff. We'll do it for you. Probably by the 2228 01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:19.680 time you hear this, we are gearing up for Night 2229 01:59:19.760 --> 01:59:24.239 of Champions in Saudi Arabia BO where they're mean. The 2230 01:59:24.319 --> 01:59:26.079 only thing left to do is say WrestleMania is going 2231 01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:27.119 to be an Iran next year. 2232 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:28.560 I mean, I know, I know. 2233 01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.119 It is unbelievable how they end up in these situations 2234 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:34.239 like this and have to like pretend everything's fine. Stiff 2235 01:59:34.319 --> 01:59:36.560 upper lip pal, I don't care if bombs are flying. 2236 01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:38.439 We got to get over there. We got checks to cash. 2237 01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:42.159 It's awful, unbelievable. The drizzling shits. 2238 01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:43.720 Tremendous stuff, and so your co chairs are gonna have 2239 01:59:43.720 --> 01:59:45.159 to grin and Barrett, we're gonna have to enter the 2240 01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:48.279 sandstorm and we're gonna have to take in another bit 2241 01:59:48.359 --> 01:59:50.920 of a WWF spectacular over there, the King and Queen 2242 01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:53.800 of the Ring tournaments to conclude to determine title shots 2243 01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:58.560 at Summer Slam, John Cena versus cum Punk. Oh so 2244 01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:00.840 you're gonna know that, Yes, you're gonna want to hear 2245 02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:03.640 the boss Man live in the wild react to the 2246 02:00:03.720 --> 02:00:06.800 modern product with absolutely no clue what the fuck is 2247 02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:08.039 going on since the last one we. 2248 02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.760 Did, I didn't. I had no idea what that was 2249 02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:11.159 the case. 2250 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:15.000 So one of a kind, well lapsed perspective available along 2251 02:00:15.039 --> 02:00:17.760 with so much more for your Patreon dollar at Patreon 2252 02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:19.800 dot com Slash the Lapsed Fan. 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Yeah. 2269 02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:02.319 So you know the deal. You know where to find 2270 02:01:02.560 --> 02:01:05.439 that higher level of content. You know how to access 2271 02:01:05.600 --> 02:01:07.760 the cockles of our heart. You know how to demonstrate 2272 02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:10.119 that you deserve all we've put into this podcast for 2273 02:01:10.239 --> 02:01:12.279 ten years. You've got a lot of work to do 2274 02:01:12.359 --> 02:01:15.000 out there, but you could do worse than getting that 2275 02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:19.159 Patreon dollar across the transom. Okay, folks, that's how we've decided. 2276 02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:21.600 Creators are going to make it worth their while in 2277 02:01:21.760 --> 02:01:24.399 the era we're moving into. So we thank you for 2278 02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:26.800 your support and we'll keep rocking and rolling for you. 2279 02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:29.560 I believe it's time. Boss. If I'm not mistaken for 2280 02:01:29.720 --> 02:01:34.079 the WWE, for the WWF, our most explosive TNT show, 2281 02:01:34.199 --> 02:01:35.479 death doll, you. 2282 02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:40.039 Know what I didn't do. There's a lot of dead people. 2283 02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:43.640 I mean, I can just say here, Gene off the 2284 02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:48.039 top of my head. You get Gene Fuji Heenan heenan 2285 02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:52.199 Lord al uh do. 2286 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:55.159 Lord als Dad. 2287 02:01:56.520 --> 02:01:57.680 Is Jimmy jack alive? 2288 02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:00.920 I don't think so is he? That's a great question. 2289 02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:07.079 I don't think Nickolai Volkoff is dead. Nick Lai Volkoff 2290 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:11.840 is said, Captain lew is dead. George Steele is dead, Bullcoff, 2291 02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:16.119 Freddy Blassie is dead. Those Penhouse Penhouse models are dead. 2292 02:02:17.399 --> 02:02:20.239 Yeah, yeah, they might be. You never know, maybe they 2293 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:25.319 got fucking, you know, cracked up. Jim Art is dead, 2294 02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:31.960 Jim Knightetheart is dead. Adrian o'donnis is dead. Jimmy Jackson Okay, well, 2295 02:02:32.079 --> 02:02:37.000 all right, that's dead. That Piper is dead. 2296 02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:38.199 Oh yeah, he's all over it. 2297 02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:46.239 Orton's still alive. Uncle Elmer is dead, right, Yeah. My 2298 02:02:46.319 --> 02:02:47.199 cousin Luke is dead. 2299 02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:47.840 Is he dead? 2300 02:02:47.960 --> 02:02:48.760 I don't know that. 2301 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:49.279 I don't know. 2302 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:51.680 I can't believe I freaking forgot to do this. It happens, 2303 02:02:52.279 --> 02:02:54.600 I know it doesn't. I don't think I've ever missed. 2304 02:02:54.640 --> 02:02:59.520 I don't ever missed before. Yeah, maybe we'll see. 2305 02:02:59.560 --> 02:03:01.800 Now this is better, absolutely. 2306 02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:06.079 The I think that's that's about I'd probably do it. 2307 02:03:06.239 --> 02:03:08.119 I mean, Andre the Giant and I mean they're there 2308 02:03:08.159 --> 02:03:10.399 are obviously some in the in the wrestling clips too, 2309 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:14.960 so like Andre is there and and uh Bundy is 2310 02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:19.039 there by John Studd's there. So yeah, it's a tricky 2311 02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:25.199 one because these things are Murdock's there, Johnson's, Rocky Jonas's dad, Yeah, 2312 02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:26.439 Adonnas is dead. 2313 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:31.079 Yeah, yep, there's it's a lot, Mike Tyson. It's a long, 2314 02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:31.840 long list. 2315 02:03:32.479 --> 02:03:32.680 Yeah. 2316 02:03:33.279 --> 02:03:35.800 So that established, it's time to light the matt light 2317 02:03:35.880 --> 02:03:38.520 the fuse, Okay. As the Colosseum Collection rolls on. On 2318 02:03:38.600 --> 02:03:40.399 the other side of the break, it's our deep dive. 2319 02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:42.560 We're gonna pull it off the video shelf. We're gonna 2320 02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:45.239 go rent this fucking sucker. We're gonna live in a 2321 02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.119 time where physical media made life worth living and want 2322 02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:51.680 to get back there with the WWF's most explosive T 2323 02:03:51.840 --> 02:03:54.760 n T show. As the Colosseum Collection continues, it's that 2324 02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:56.119 deep dive on the other side,