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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcast. We are here today to talk about

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two iconic movies from the eighties, one of which is

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celebrating its fortieth anniversary just a couple of months ago,

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the other of which is celebrating its thirty fifth anniversary

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in a month or so right around this time. And

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they are both cult classics.

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Speaker 2: Okay, today we're going to be discussing Flash Gordon nineteen

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eighty and Highlander nineteen eighty six. We are going to

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have so much freaking fun talking about these movies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jason, our executive producer for this episode is your

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dear friend, mister Dale Selby. I want to give a

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big shout out to him. Thank you very much. Dale.

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He joined our Patreon page. I am sending him our prizes,

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which are headphones and a cool custom engraved coffee mug

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or you know what beverage he wants to put in there.

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Speaker 2: Dale is one of my great college buddies. Thank you

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so much. He actually texts me and we talked about

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the episode, and he follows it and gives a feedback,

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and I really appreciate you. Thanks Dale, You're awesome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So with most movies that we compare, we save

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final judgment for the end, and in this particular scenario,

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we have an unfair comparison. Right, there's one obvious movie

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that is better than the other movie in this comparison,

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and that movie is Highlight. Shut your dirty mouth.

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Speaker 2: Flash Gordon. It's Highlander, Flash Gordon is. It's clearly the winner.

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I love both. I can't believe we decided this already.

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Speaker 1: What. Okay, so Flash Gordon is like an over budgeted

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high school musical. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: We're comparing it to the movie where the leads can't

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even speak English.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I guess we need to jump into the

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discussion now because there can.

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Speaker 3: Be only one to the dad Gum.

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Speaker 1: That song kicks so much. But I mean, I don't

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care which movie you're picking. That is the song of

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all of the songs on both of these soundtracks. That

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is the most awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. It gets my you know what, it.

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Speaker 1: Does, get your you know what, It gets my you

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know what too.

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Speaker 2: It gets it gets me going man.

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Speaker 1: Make that feel like a man.

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Speaker 2: That might be my favorite Queen song of all time.

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Oh wow, I mean that is up there with the

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big boys, you know, Bohemian Rhapsody and I Want.

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Speaker 1: It All and We Will Rock You.

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Speaker 2: It's up there, Princes of the Universe. Freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, So, as we mentioned before, these are two

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cult classics. They were not super popular movies. They were

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not in the US when they first came out, but

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thanks to Queen and thanks to a following that developed

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over time for both of them, they have become iconic

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movies that have stood the test.

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Speaker 3: Of com.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think HBO and VHS were vital to these two.

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Speaker 1: Both of my experiences were with a video, although I

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think with Flashboard and I actually get to see that

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one in the thing.

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Speaker 2: I saw that in the theater as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't se Highlander until I was in college.

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This is the honest truth on both of these movies.

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Each time I watch them, I like them a little

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bit better every time I watch. Yeah, they are so

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much fun.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, There's a documentary that came out

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about four years ago called Life After Flash It's largely

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involved Sam Jones, but it has everybody in there. Surprisingly,

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almost all of them are still alive as old as

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that movie is. But it's a fantastic documentary that I

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encourage anybody to check out, very good quality stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I watched it too, and it made me love Sam

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Jones even more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what a super guy. Yeah. I kind

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of wish that I had seen the documentary before I

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rewatched Flash Gordon. I think I may have enjoyed it more.

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But yeah, you really, he was a guy who screwed up,

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owned it and has done everything he can to change

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his life to.

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Speaker 4: Make about it.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to dive in.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about Flash Gordon first.

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Speaker 1: We're going to jump into the history. All right.

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Speaker 2: Flash Gordon was released December fifth, nineteen eighty, or the

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budget of twenty seven million dollars, and it made about

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twenty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so it came Flash Gordon was born in

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the nineteen thirties. I mean, the character was created in

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the nineteen thirties. The King Features Syndicate was looking for

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a character that it could use to compete with this

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new character that had come out called buck Rogers. All Right,

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so buck Rogers was a space adventure. They're like, we

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need a space adventure of our own. They actually had

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an artist working for them who came up with this

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fantastic idea of a polo player from Yale that saved

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the universe. A polo player, a polo player because.

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Speaker 2: That was, you know, kind of the tough guy sport

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of the thirties.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And so Flash Gordon was immediately successful, had the toys,

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had the comic strips, and then of course it started

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having cereals, you know, and we had Buster Crabb, who

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was an Olympic athlete, picturesque godlike you know, physique guy.

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He was a stud of the thirties. He absolutely was.

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And he played Flash Gordon in the movies, and he

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played Flash Gordon in the serials, and then a little

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later on he played Buck Rogers really also in the thirties. Yeah,

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it's kind of crazy. He was also in Buck Rogers

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of the twenty fourth century.

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Speaker 2: Drudgers in the twenty fourth and I have twenty fifth century.

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Speaker 1: It's the twenty fifth century, right, Okay. His character's name

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was Commander Gordon Nice.

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Speaker 2: Nice is cool.

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Speaker 1: So he's in those serials in the thirties and forties.

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a TV show about Flash Gordon in the fifties, which

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is a very important TV show for one reason. There's

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this kid in the nineteen fifties watching TV named George

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who decides that he wants to grow up to be

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a movie director, and he wants to direct a movie

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about Flashcourdon.

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Speaker 4: Little George, Little Georgie Lucas, Little Georgie Lucas.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime. Unfortunately for him, this guy named Dino

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de la Reentes obtains the screen rights to Flash Gordon.

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It gets stuck in development. Hell Dyala Rennis has Frederick

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Fellini's the guy he wants to direct it. Have you

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seen any of Fellini's stuff?

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Speaker 2: No, but I know he's revered.

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Speaker 1: He's bizarre. Okay, it is. It's weird now. Dino had

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had some success with some comic adaptations. He had done Barbarella,

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and he had done this thing called Danger Diabolic. But

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for some reason Flash Gordon couldn't get off the ground.

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Space Adventures had kind of fallen out of favor in

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the seventies. You had more it was more like sci

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fi dystopia type of stuff. When he goes to get

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to the see if he can direct the movie from

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King Syndicate Features, they say no, Dala Renis already has

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it and he doesn't want you to direct. I guess

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I'll go direct my own space opera.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this movie called Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: It had just a smidgeon of success, just a teeny

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bit of success, and so suddenly Flash Gordon was moving

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Speaker 2: It's really it's incredible how these movies are so intertwined.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and Lucas totally stole, Like the scrolling

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credits at the beginning of Star Wars totally comes from

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the flashboard and Cereals the buns in her hair comes

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from the flashboardon comic books. I mean, he took all

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kinds of liberties, but you know, shame on them for

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turning him down when he asked to come direct it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Darth Vader and Ming the Merciless.

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Speaker 1: Similar I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The two biggest batties in the universe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of a sudden, everybody's making space movies, right,

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So at this point Fellini has moved on, He's not

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Speaker 2: So he taps Nicholas Rogue.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Nick Rogue is also kind strange.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does this movie called The Man Who Fell.

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Speaker 1: To Earth, Yeah, had David Bowie in it. So he

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goes with the guy who wrote Enter the Dragon that

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edbrus Lee in it. He goes with that guy I

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don't rememberhere the guy's name is. They go and work

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on the script together, and they come up with a

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really good, deep, meaningful, symbol great script, and Dino da

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Reente says, no, this is this is not what I want.

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I want a comic book, and this is going to

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cost me way too much money. Yes, you're out, Let

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me find somebody else. And so he picks up Mike Hodges,

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who he had already slated to direct flashcoord in Part two.

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Speaker 2: Really okay, well optimism you know, yeah, sure, Mike Hodges

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did the Terminal Man, Get Carter, Yeah, and Flash Cord right.

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Speaker 1: Terminal Man was the only sci fi experience that he

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Speaker 2: At this point, Dino has worked with the screenwriter named

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we've talked about Lorenzo Simple before.

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Speaker 2: Yes. He wrote and Never Say Never Again exactly. He

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and was known to be the main guy who wrote

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Adam West series Yes.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who came up with Bam pal crash right,

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Speaker 1: Right, and say they went they went to him specifically

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and said, we want a comic book movie like your

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Speaker 2: Okay, so stop right there. Yeah, Flash Gordon.

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Speaker 2: If you take Star Wars, yes, and mash it up

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with Batman in the sixties series Flash Cord, it gives birth

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to this wonderful thing we called Flashboard two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this colorful thing that we call it.

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Speaker 2: Fun awesome, goofy, this campy, fun thing we called Flashbock.

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Speaker 1: It is perfect for kids. Keep going, let's see. Oh,

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but the guy who ultimately is responsible for the way

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that the whole movie works is this guy called Donna Elodonardi. Yes,

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problem because he didn't speak English. Number one and number two,

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he refused to read the script.

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Speaker 2: He would make stuff and the director's like, what the

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Speaker 1: Ye pink trees, he had pink a boia was pink,

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and it was and he would build these sets and

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just like Mike Hodges said, I think he was just

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Speaker 2: Mike Hodges needs a round of applause and a pat

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on the back for stealing this great movie out of

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the depths of this craziness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the crew was Italian. Yeah, the cast was English,

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mostly an American. They couldn't talk to each other. Dina

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sam J.

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Speaker 2: Jones has never been in a movie before. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you been to Blake Edwards was the playgirl, and

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he had been in Hollywood Squares, the data game.

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Speaker 2: The dating game.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was, the dating game. So that's we

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we start talking about the actors. But before we do that,

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Speaker 2: Let's it's a kind of magic.

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Speaker 1: It's a good magic.

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Speaker 2: So Highlander was released March seventh, nineteen eighty six. This

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office was thirteen million dollars. This was originally titled The

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Speaker 1: Yes. The idea for the story was born from the

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imagination of the writer Gregory Wyden. Gregory when he was

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about nineteen years old, he went to the Tower of

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London and down in the basement of the Tower of London,

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they have like the largest armory museum in the world, right, right,

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And so he's looking at all of these suits of

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armor and other war battle increment weapon things, swords and

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about armor and shields, and he's like, what if there

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was a guy who was in a bunch of these things,

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like he had worn these things throughout history. And that

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was the spark that led to the idea of the

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immortal man who has worn all of these battle uniforms

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throughout his wory.

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Speaker 2: It's such a simple idea, but it's such a good hook, right, Oh,

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it's fantastic. What if there was a guy hook who

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didn't die and this was his armor?

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Speaker 1: Right? So Gregory White and he went to UCLA to

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get his film degree. He had actually planned initially he

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had planned to be a doctor. Really yeah, okay, And

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so while he was still just out of high school.

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He had gotten his paramedic certificate because he thought that's

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a good way to get familiar with the medical field, right.

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And so when he goes out to UCLA to go

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to film school there he gets a job as a firefighter,

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which is why later on he goes on to write

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the script for the movie Backdraft.

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Speaker 2: This guy is taking the most of his opportunities, right, Hey,

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I'm here at Tower of London. Boom script, my part

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time job, fireman, boom script.

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Speaker 1: He wrote and directed this series called The Prophecy. I

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haven't seen it. I don't know if it's any good. Yeah,

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Christopher Walking, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Waltkins like Gabriel the Archangel. Yeah, and he's like pissed,

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so oh wow, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I like it. So he has this grad project

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of writing a script. He uses the idea that he

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came up with from his strip to the Tower of

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London to write this script. And congratulations to his professor.

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I don't remember his professor's name, but he said, instead

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of saying things like professors say sometimes to their students,

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so this is scrap and here's all the thing's wrong

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with it, he said, this is a really good script.

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As a matter of fact, this is so good, I'm

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going to put you in contact with this guy that

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I know that's an agent. We're going to see if

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we can option it off for you. And that's what

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they did, and the script got picked up. Grad student

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gets paid two hundred thousand dollars for the script. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Two hundred a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he could have done what miss what's her

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face did in Christmas story and said C plus you

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know plus. But yeah, he told me this is good

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enough to turn into an agent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's And so the guys that pick up his

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script are called William Panzer and Peter Davis. Okay, and

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so they've got this script that they like a lot,

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they do decide they're going to make some changes to it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The original script was a good deal darker, not as funny,

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and didn't have a romance story to it.

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Speaker 2: That's a good move. Yeah, some other changes that it had.

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The immortals could have children, right, so like McLeod had

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like thirty seven thirty seven children?

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Speaker 1: Right, Why did you have thirty seven children? Because we

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didn't want to have thirty.

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Speaker 2: The Kurgan was a little different too. He had been

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over time, he had been cut up and beat up

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and burned, and he was much more grotesque character.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he also was a more sympathetic villain.

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Speaker 2: The only thing he had was the prize, like that

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was the only thing he was going for.

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Speaker 1: Right, He had lost everything over his centuries of living.

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He had lost all meaning to life except for this

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one thing, the prize at the end, to finish this competition,

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and that was what got him up out of bed.

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Everything we got, we got Joker from the Dark Night,

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we got Clancy Brown full on Psycho.

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Speaker 2: It's better to burn out than fade away.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say for Clancy Brown, I mean he Clancy

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Brown wanted it to be more like the character was written.

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He had this idea that he was going to be

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in a bowler hat and like a nice suit instead

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of dressed like a punk rocker rest of the time,

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and was into this idea of there being an intellectual

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motivation behind the darkness that he had. But he did

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Psycho real well. He did Psycho really well. It kind

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of made the movie.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely This guy's awesome. So Clancy Brown, you probably recognize

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him as the bad Cop Captain Hadley from The Shawshank Redemption.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the unbelievable prick actually had the audacity act magnanimous

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about it, right. He was also in Starship Troopers and

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he was also I didn't know this. He's done a

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lot of voice work, but he was Curterer in Thor Ragnarok,

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the big horned villain at the beginning the fights at

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the end. That's Brown doing that part.

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Speaker 2: He's got a great voice, which is huge.

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Speaker 1: Later on, I got a little secret thing that I'm

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going to talk about with Thor Ragnarok and Flashboard a

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little bit later on. But there's connection. There's always these connections,

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and I got it coming up. Okay, awesome, awesome. So

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William Panzer and Peter Davis have the script, they decide

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they want to make some changes to it, and then

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they decide, okay, now we've got to get a director

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to direct it, right, And so they've got a list

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of like twenty directors to look at, and somehow somebody

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gives them this movie called Razorback, Razorback, Razorback, which is

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an Australian movie that is basically Jaws in the Outback

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with a giant pig as.

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Speaker 2: The Shark sounds great, sounds great.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that it's one of those movies that you

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just think this sounds like the biggest pile of crap,

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but it is actually really pretty good. I want to

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go see it. I've watched the trailer and I'm like,

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this is actually interesting enough that I would go watch it.

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I haven't seen it, but I can tell you also

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the interviews that I heard, they said they watched the

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first ten minutes of this movie and they said, that's

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our guy.

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Speaker 2: This guy's name is Russell mckahey.

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Speaker 1: Then they watched derand Duran's Hungry Like a Wolf and

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they said, that is definitely our guy.

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Speaker 2: This guy's known.

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Speaker 1: For music videos, right, and some that we've talked about

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in the past, including Bonnie Tyler totally Clips of the Heart,

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totally Clips of the Heart. But he also did the

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very first video that appeared on MTV by the Buggles.

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He's the one who directed video Killed the Radio Star.

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Speaker 2: That is awesome.

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Speaker 1: The third installment that we've talked about that he directed, yes,

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was from our def Leppard episode Okay. He directed the

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Pour Some Sugar on Me video. The Pour Some Sugar

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on Me video No, not that one, not that one. No,

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the first one, the horrible was the one that directed

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that one where they're in the old lady's house and

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you have the random crowd of people I don't know,

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the wrecking ball and the manly women.

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Speaker 2: Yes, go back, flashback our Death Leopard Hysteria episode. Go

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listen to us talk about that crazy, crappy video. And

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then they said put that one in the trash, and

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they made the one that we all.

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Speaker 1: Know and love right that. He did not direct that one,

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but he did direct Hungary Like the Wolf, and that

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was enough to get him this job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Hungry Like the Wolf was a great video.

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Did Betty Davis Eyes, He did Wild Boys by Director a.

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Speaker 1: Ton of Billy Joel videos he was. And he did

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some queen stuff too.

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Speaker 2: He did Princes of the Universe. Yeah, you might as

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well just go direct the music video myself. Right, and

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let's go ahead and have Freddie Mercury fights with swords.

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Christopher Lambert, are you ready.

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Speaker 1: To jump into casting?

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Speaker 2: Let's go into casting, all right, back to Flashboard. There

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is some connective tissue between these two movies. Okay, casting wise, Okay.

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The number one draft choice to play the lead character

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in Flashcoordon number.

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Speaker 1: One draft choice for the quarterback for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and the number one draft choice to play

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the Highlander in Highlander.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was Kurt Russell. Both movies, both movies, both movies.

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He was number one choice.

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Speaker 2: He was the number one choice. They offered him Flash

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Gordon and he turned it down. Yes, they offered him Highlander.

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Speaker 1: He accepted, and then Goldie Hawn said, your Scottish accent sucks.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know what she said. Let's go make Overboard.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that what happened?

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Speaker 2: That's what happened.

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Speaker 1: She talked him out of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know goldiehan in nineteen eighty seven had some pool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that bikini in Overboard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hello, Arnold Schwarzenegger almost got the part as Splash Gordon.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say something real quick? Yes on this topic.

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In the movie Overboard, you have the perfect connection between

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Fright Night and The Lost Boys because you have ed Herman,

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who played Max and the Lost Boys on the same

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ship with Roddy McDowell, who played.

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Speaker 2: Mister Vincent Vincent in Fright Night. That is incredible. I

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did not make that connection until just now. All right,

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So Kurt Russell was supposed to be Flash Gordon. Sam J.

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Jones got this because Dino de la renz IS's mom

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was watching the dating game and there's this guy she

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thought was really good looking. Sam J.

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Speaker 1: Jones, Yeah, okay, how does that conversation go. We're having

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trouble finding an actor to play this part. Oh you

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know what, I saw a very handsome boy game.

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Speaker 2: You should give him a call. He's a very wholesome

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American boy.

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Speaker 1: How does a guy who's produced multiple movies go? Yeah, okay,

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that's a good.

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Speaker 2: Good idea, Mom, good idea, So listen to this. Arne Schwarzenegger,

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Uh huh didn't get the part because he had an accent.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so let's just wait until he's a barbarian mister

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Dino Dila Reentez and make his accent part of the character.

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I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he brought him back for Conan, right, and then

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off he goes. Flash Gordon has to be an all

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American guy.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Jeff Bridges and Harvey Kaitel were considered for the

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role of Flashes.

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Speaker 1: See that's fascinating because Highlander is largely influenced by the duelists.

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Which is Ridley Scott's first movie about this continuing battle

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of swords that happens, and Harvey Kaitel is one of

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the main guys in them.

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Speaker 2: There you go. So when Dino brought in Sam J.

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Jones before we get off of Sam J. Jones, he

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brought him in, he didn't talk directly to him. He

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just tucked around him. So it's like it was literally

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like a model. Oh yes, turn around please, oh yes, okay,

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And he was talking to his producer and he's like, yes,

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I think this is our flesh and let's face the

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Sam J. Jones, big strong, athletic looking dude. Yeah, I

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mean he had he was a model.

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Speaker 1: He was a model. And it's funny that you say

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that because, like Mike Hodges, after the animosity that developed

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over the shooting of this movie, at some point said

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to Dino de learned is why did you why did

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you pick me to direct this? Like you know what,

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what about my past made you? And he and Dino

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de larn says, I like your face.

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Speaker 2: Well, oddly enough, that was not the worst choice or

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the weirdest choice that Dino da Lawrence has made while

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casting Flash Gordon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: While he is looking for doctor Zarkoff, it came down

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to two guys. Topel, who.

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Speaker 1: Is this the Little Girl Life?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Fiddler on the Roof to me? He is

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also Colombo from forty Your Eyes Only. He is James

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Bond guy, right, But he also wanted this guy named

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Warren Oates. You know him a wild bunch, Well yeah,

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but you probably know him better as Sergeant Hulkin from Stripes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, uh, lighting up Francis.

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00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,279
Speaker 2: And so they couldn't decide between Warren Oates and Topal. Yeah,

473
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:44,240
so they flipped a coin like legitimately, Like he said,

474
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,720
I've made some of my best decisions by doing this flip. Topel,

475
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,000
You're in all right? Max von Sideal got the part

476
00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:54,839
of ming the Merciless.

477
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,559
Speaker 1: Yes, because he was a big fan of the comic

478
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:03,240
books growing up and he was excited to play this villain.

479
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

480
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

481
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: He had played Jesus Christ. Yes, most people probably know

482
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,720
hi from The Exorcist, right he was the priest and

483
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,640
the Exorcist. Yeah, he actually plays the devil in Needful Things.

484
00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:15,559
Oh yeah, he's one of the few guys who's played

485
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:19,160
Jesus and the Devil in his acting Christ interesting yeah. Yeah,

486
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,160
so he's being the merciless. One of the guys that

487
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,039
they had originally looked at was Keith Carrody.

488
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,039
Speaker 1: So Keith Carodine was the other guy in the duel

489
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,000
list with Harvey Kaitel.

490
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,599
Speaker 2: There you go, good job. Also considered for the role

491
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,359
of doctor Zarkov was Dennis Hopper. Kind of interesting.

492
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that had been weird.

493
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: This is the one that blows me away. Okay, now

494
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,319
before I say this, I believe that they really knocked

495
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:46,759
it out of the park with casting on Flash Courton, Okay, Okay,

496
00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:51,200
Sam J. Jones and Melody Anderson were if he leads yeah,

497
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:52,720
Topel Home Run.

498
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: Well, Melody Anderson got the part, like she didn't even

499
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,720
get the part. Initially it went to some sort of

500
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,799
swimsuit model and then Dino de la Renis, in his

501
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,839
normal style, was like, Nope, I change my mind. Let's

502
00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:08,359
get this other girl. And she literally they called her

503
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,759
it said can you come to London tonight.

504
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: She says she felt like she was kidnapped. Yes, Like

505
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,279
She's like, I've got a v show.

506
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,079
Speaker 1: Phone call and now I'm on a plane and now

507
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,759
my hair is getting dyed and we're starting production.

508
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,799
Speaker 2: Which we got to talk about that real quick. Sam J.

509
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,480
Jones has brown hair. They bleached it blonde. Melody Anderson

510
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,599
has blonde hair. Ye, they colored it brown.

511
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Yes.

512
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,039
Speaker 2: Continuing on with that thought, Max fun side Al awesome.

513
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,519
Speaker 1: Yes. Peter Winguard Wineguard was played.

514
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: He was awesome.

515
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Yes, had to learn how to throw his voice like

516
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,240
a ventriloquist because the mask was so heavy that that

517
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,160
set designer decided to make.

518
00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: He choose the scenery like crazy Clitus does.

519
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Awesome, he really does.

520
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,279
Speaker 2: Timothy Dalton future James Bond. Oh yeah, playing an Errol

521
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Flynn like character. Yes, Prince Baron, he was amazing.

522
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,519
Speaker 1: Yes, but the best has to be Yes.

523
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,599
Speaker 2: Brian Blessed as Prince Bolton.

524
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: Gordon's Live Gordon's.

525
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:17,079
Speaker 2: Flying Blind on a rocket cycle. Everything he says is

526
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,319
over the top and amazing.

527
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so I gotta say something about that, right. So

528
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,559
he said that when he was a kid, this is

529
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:29,000
the character that he would play as a kid when

530
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,279
they played Flash Gordon out in the Field or whatever.

531
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,119
He would always be this guy. And so whenever he

532
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,160
found out they were making the movie, he went to

533
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,400
them and said, you are going to cast me in

534
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,559
this part he said, I will break your back, I

535
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,039
will break your butt, I will cut off your you

536
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:49,720
will put me in this movie.

537
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,519
Speaker 2: And it worked.

538
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,599
Speaker 1: They put him in the movie.

539
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,079
Speaker 2: Oh well, who wants to live forever? Even like when

540
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480
he's like muted, like they like Volta on, We're gonna

541
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:03,359
kill your daughter if you don't bow to me, he's

542
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:10,839
like hell Ming, like, okay, fine. You know who else

543
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480
was freaking amazing in her role or Nella Muti as

544
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,920
Ming's daughter, Princess Aura. Yes, I don't know if I'm

545
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,920
even saying her name right.

546
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:20,519
Speaker 1: She is.

547
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: Literally she's playing the sexiest.

548
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,279
Speaker 1: Person in the universe, and she was appropriately.

549
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,039
Speaker 2: She is the sexiest person in the universe. I was

550
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:32,799
seven years old, and I was like, I have a.

551
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,759
Speaker 1: Name, very very high. And speaking of kids and their reaction,

552
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,480
we we talked to Caleb, like Caleb my eleven year old, Yes,

553
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200
and he had watched both of these movies with me,

554
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:46,880
and you get and so you're talking to him and

555
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,759
you said, what was your favorite part? And he goes,

556
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,160
I think it was when he was communicating telepathically, and

557
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200
then all of a sudden, he went, Wow, this girl's

558
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,920
really turning me on.

559
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: She's a Sparble Boy. So that's the cast. I mean

560
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,839
we're talking Sam J. Jones, Melody Anderson, Mary Angela Mulatto

561
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,279
as General Kulla. Yes she everything she says is over

562
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,519
the top, like Brian, she said, what do you mean

563
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,799
Flash Gordon approaching open fire?

564
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: And we had Richard O'Brien, the guy who played riff

565
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,039
Raff in The Rocky Horror Picture Show, which he wrote,

566
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:29,839
yeah is and by the way, teaser for upcoming episodes.

567
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880
We will be covering the Rocky Horror Picture Show this

568
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,519
season or.

569
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,759
Speaker 2: Next Yes, we can't wait for that. That's gonna be awesome.

570
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:37,319
He plays a character called Fiico.

571
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:37,799
Speaker 1: Yep.

572
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,319
Speaker 2: And actually in the Rocky Horror Picture Show, I believe

573
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,160
it's the opening song they mentioned Flash Gordon in the lyrics.

574
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,559
Speaker 1: There was another guy this is. This is kind of

575
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:49,599
an interesting, interesting one. Philip Stone played the High Priest.

576
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,960
He was also the guy in the Shining that was

577
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,920
so terrifying.

578
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,119
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the guy that was encouraging Jet too discipline.

579
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:04,640
Yes man. By the way, just as a side note,

580
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,359
there's a lot of Bond connections here.

581
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, let's do Sean Connery connections because we're about

582
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,279
to talk to Sean Connery getting cast in Highlander in

583
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,799
just a second. Yes, So Timothy Dalton auditioned to play

584
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,000
the part of James Bond, replacing Sean Connery. He just

585
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:22,720
didn't get it.

586
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: George Lazimbie got it. Timothy Dalton was like twenty three

587
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,519
to twenty four. Yeah, they decided maybe a little too young. Yeah,

588
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,240
So they came back to him in eighty seven and

589
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,599
he was He was a great Bond right, hit some

590
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,559
less than stellar scripts to deal with, but I thought

591
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:37,599
he was really good.

592
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

593
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so here you go, here's some Bond connections for you.

594
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Flash Gordon Wise, all right, Max von side Al plays

595
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Blofeld and Never Say Never Again. Timothy Dalton, of course

596
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:51,839
plays James Bond in The Living Daylights and Licensed to Kill. Yep, Okay,

597
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,000
look very closely, you gotta look super quick. Okay. There

598
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,880
was a guy loading Flash and Dale Arden's luggage on

599
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,319
the plane at the very beginning of the movie. Okay,

600
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960
do you know what I'm talking about. There is a

601
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,640
guy who's loading their luggage and literally he's like there

602
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,599
you go, sir, uh huh.

603
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: You know it's a whole line.

604
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,039
Speaker 2: Yes, A j Mister Hermann all he does is load luggage.

605
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,480
That's Robbie Coltrane. He ends up playing Hagrid in the

606
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:23,400
Harry Potter movies. Okay, and he plays he plays Valentine

607
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:27,400
and the World Is Not Enough and goldeneyew he's like

608
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880
a James Bond bad guy and he's in the freaking

609
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Harry Potter movies. And Topel plays Colombo in For Your

610
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,079
Eys Only. Yeah, so there you go.

611
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: So moving on to casting of Highlander. Okay, so we've

612
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,319
got Russell mckayey directing. They can't get Kurt Russell to

613
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
be the part, right, they have some other ideas they

614
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:50,839
can you tell me who they? Yes? Go ahead, Yes.

615
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: So the person who nearly got the part was Mel Gibson.

616
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,519
Speaker 1: Yes, which has been very interesting given this the Scottish Highlands.

617
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:02,079
Speaker 2: If Mel Gibson had done, would we have got Braveheart?

618
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Probably not?

619
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: No way, right, right? Mark Singer remember him the beast

620
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:10,559
Master himself? Oh right, They wanted him. They also asked

621
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,920
or thought about Michael Douglas, Ed Harris, Sam Shepard, David Keith,

622
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,039
Kevin Costner, Scott Glenn and Sting.

623
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,799
Speaker 1: Right Sting, who had just a little while before done

624
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:29,240
the movie the Bride, which had a clancy. They also

625
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,000
wanted Sting to do music too.

626
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so the Queen wasn't their first choice for Highlander.

627
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,079
They wanted either Duran Duran Russell McKay, right, Duran Duran

628
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,000
Sting or David Bowie.

629
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Right. Well, we'll talk more about that in a minute

630
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,319
when we get to the soundtrack. Yes, right, okay, So

631
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,960
they can't get any of those guys, right. Russell McKay

632
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,200
is sitting there flipping through a magazine and he comes

633
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,960
across a picture of Christopher Lambert. I asked my we

634
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,720
were talking about this because he was Christopher Lambert, right

635
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:00,680
for me?

636
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,119
Speaker 2: Right?

637
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: But then you were like, I think it's Christopher Lambert.

638
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,359
And so I asked my neighbor, who's French. I was like,

639
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000
how do you pronounce this name? And he's like Lombert.

640
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:12,680
I was like, long, Loombert, Lombert, and he's like, yes, Lombert.

641
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,039
And I was like, okay, yeah, nobody's pronouncing.

642
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:16,359
Speaker 2: That right, Christopher Lombard.

643
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,039
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna call him Christopher Lambert. I want to

644
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,400
call him Christopher Lambert. So he had been in his

645
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,839
first English speaking movie, just recently, called Gray Stoke, which

646
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,720
was about Tarzan.

647
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:27,359
Speaker 2: He plays.

648
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:32,319
Speaker 1: He plays Tarzan, right, and in the movie they picked

649
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,160
him this is surprising because of his myopia, not because

650
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
they wanted a guy who couldn't see, but the fact

651
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,240
that he couldn't see caused him to have this like

652
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:46,519
a thousand yard very deep intense stare, like through the

653
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,480
top of his eyes, and they just thought it looked cool.

654
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had this piercing stare. Yeah, because he can't

655
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:53,119
see anything.

656
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: Right, So Russell mkay. He sees him in this magazine

657
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,640
doing this intense stare that is really just a result

658
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,920
of his almost blindness, and decides, hey, this should be

659
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,400
our guy.

660
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

661
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 1: You know.

662
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,039
Speaker 2: You mentioned that. And one of the things that they

663
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,960
talked about during the filming. They would have these long

664
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,199
battle scenes in Scotland. They would crest the hill and

665
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,000
they'd be like, cut, tell Christopher to take his freaking

666
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,400
glasses off. He couldn't see anything. He was totally blind.

667
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: And they did all of the sword fights. They did

668
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,880
all of the sword fights and he didn't get hurt

669
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,880
until part two. Right, that's amazing. Yeah, I mean that's

670
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,360
amazing himself. But he had been trained. I got this

671
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:36,800
a little bit for you, right.

672
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Yes, he had been trained by this guy named Bob Anderson,

673
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,119
who was a Canadian Olympic gold medalist in fencing. He

674
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,519
did the sword work for the Princess Bride, which is

675
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,000
the best sword fight in cinema history in my opinion.

676
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,960
He did the Mask of Zoro, he did the Lord

677
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,360
of the Rings. And here's your here's another James Bond connection.

678
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:02,599
He did Die Another Day. Okay, but you're ready for this. Yeah,

679
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,639
he's got a small speaking part in Empire Strikes Back.

680
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,280
But that isn't the coolest thing. The coolest thing is

681
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,480
he was Darth Vader during all of the lightsaber fights

682
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,400
in Empire strikes Back. Yes, of the Jedi, that is awesome.

683
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:22,000
This is the guy that trained Christopher Lambert how to

684
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,000
sword fight. So the small speaking part that he had

685
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,119
in Empire Strikes Back, he is the guy at Echo Station.

686
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,519
His character's name is Trey Callum and he says, we've

687
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,840
spotted the Imperial Walkers. All right, that's Bob Anderson.

688
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 2: Sweet.

689
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I think playing Darth Vader is way sweeter though. Yes, yes,

690
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:47,119
so they call up Christopher Lambert's agent who says, yes,

691
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,360
he's six' to, two and of course he Speaks, english, right,

692
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,440
Right and so they go to meet him and she's

693
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
doing all the interpretation for him at the, table like they're,

694
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,559
like oh, crap we are. Screwed this guy doesn't speak

695
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,000
like when he said when he says, hello how are

696
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,119
you are? You you, know it's very very Heavy french yes,

697
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,679
accent which to me it never bothered me a. Bit

698
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,800
it's kind of like it's kind of Like Mel gibson

699
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,559
In Brave. Heart the fact that his accent wasn't spot

700
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,480
on is okay because he lived in a bunch of different.

701
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,519
Places you, talk, Funny, nash where are you? From lots

702
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,840
of different? Places, yeah, Yeah, okay he's been a life

703
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,280
for four hundred. Years he's going to have a weird

704
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,760
way of. Talking.

705
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah but here's my. Problem, OKAY i MEAN i Love,

706
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,559
highlander don't get me. Wrong but the actors who played the,

707
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:40,119
policeman they Auditioned american actors who are living In, england

708
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,079
and they rejected them because they had acquired too much

709
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,760
of An english. Accent and McLeod had lived in The

710
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,760
United states for four hundred years and he still can't be.

711
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,559
Speaker 1: Understood that can be only one HE i understood him,

712
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:55,000
perfectly So.

713
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: Ramirez they Land Sean connery himself as mirror is The Egyptian. Spaniard,

714
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:07,199
yes he is the world's most famous scott just making A.

715
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Highlander, yes, right, yep but that wasn't now the script was,

716
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,639
written but his, spot His spanish accent was on. Perfectly

717
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,119
he worked so, well, yeah you'll give him my god

718
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,159
because it's. Wrong. Right so here's the guy we're talking,

719
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:23,400
About Sean, connery who when's the last time he lived In? Scotland,

720
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,760
right he does. It he still has A scottish, accent

721
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000
so don't give me. This, well he's been he's been

722
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,519
In america all this. Time he's going to have An

723
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,760
american accent by. Now, Well Sean connery.

724
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Didn't, okay, fair, fair, Right and by the, way the

725
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
only reason he took this is because their shooting schedule

726
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:42,960
was In. Scotland where are we Going? Scotland i'm in the.

727
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Million dollar paycheck for one week's worth of seven probably.

728
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,679
Days isn't hurt seven? Days, Yeah and so that he

729
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,320
was at the end of that seven, days like if

730
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,199
they went, over they had to pay him extra bill

731
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,960
and he's, like you're not going to make the cut

732
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,639
To russell and, Like russell McKay ten minutes that's before

733
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
his time ran, out said it's a rap for. You

734
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,920
this is what he.

735
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Did so he's, like oh, crap we'll right out of.

736
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,280
Time he's, like all, Right, sean look to your, left all,

737
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880
right look, pissed all, right now look, up, now look, down,

738
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,360
now look, Happy now looks. Sad it's a wrap and he,

739
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,400
goes you bost. It so here's a couple other NAMES

740
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,880
i got for.

741
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: You.

742
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay these are the names that were considered For. Ramirez,

743
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,039
okay they Got Sean.

744
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,559
Speaker 1: CONNERY i mean it was written For Sean. Connery, yeah

745
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,480
it was written with him in.

746
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: Mind, yes The egyptian. Spaniard let's get the world's most

747
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,079
famous Scott. Okay but they looked At Lee Van, Cleeve Clint,

748
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:40,079
Eastwood Clint, eastwood are you kidding? Me malcolm, McDowell Gene,

749
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,519
Hackman Michael, cain And peter.

750
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: O'Toole malcolm, McDowell i think would have been probably my

751
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,840
favorite of. Those that would pretty.

752
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,039
Speaker 2: Good. Right all, right here's the other. Thing heather, McLeod

753
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,000
who is his love interest In scotland and his wife Fifteen,

754
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,480
yeah his. Wife, yes, Right Virginia madson auditioned for that. Role,

755
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,800
okay she didn't get, it, Right she shows up later

756
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400
In highlander two The, quickening.

757
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,119
Speaker 1: Right, Right, yeah you told me about. HER i forgot about.

758
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: That she's the best part Of highlander to the Quick is.

759
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: There a best part of that?

760
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Movie that's. It that's the that's the end of.

761
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,599
Speaker 1: It right. There you haven't watched that.

762
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 2: MOVIE i did watch the movie for this. PODCAST i

763
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:18,880
Watched highlander.

764
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: Two you're not getting paid enough, money all, right.

765
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,119
Speaker 2: Listen let's just talk honestly About highlander two for a. Second,

766
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,719
okay in all. Honesty, WELL i told YOU i Saw

767
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,880
highlander two first in the.

768
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: Theater this is why you don't Like highlander one as

769
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:33,760
much as you.

770
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,559
Speaker 2: Should, okay well maybe. So BUT i remember sitting in a.

771
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,639
Theater i'm, like, man this is. Crap this this just.

772
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,480
Sucks but my, wife who had Watched highlander and loved

773
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,800
it because it's this action packed love, story she was like,

774
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,800
hurt like cut to the bone because this movie sucks so. Bad,

775
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,079
yeah and THEN i was, like, well this stupid sci

776
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,000
fi movie is just. Dumb, Right, well THEN i watched

777
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,760
the Original Highlander i'm, like, OKAY i get. It they undercut.

778
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,280
It they absolutely undercut.

779
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: IT i have never seen. IT i will never see.

780
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,800
It WHEN i heard that it was coming, OUT i was. Excited,

781
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,159
yes and then SOMEBODY i knew went and saw it

782
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,239
and they said and they came and they told. Me they're, like,

783
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,119
yeah they're supposed to Be. Aliens AND i was, LIKE

784
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000
i will never see that. Movie. Yeah it ruins everything

785
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,119
good About. Highlander it ruins.

786
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: It, yes it.

787
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: Does and the ideally apparently number three like just acts

788
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,519
like number two didn't, exist, right smart.

789
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: Move, yeah, okay and THEN i want to talk about

790
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:43,199
the role Of brenda for a second.

791
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: One, okay.

792
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 2: Okay brenda was played by this actress Named Roxanne. Heart,

793
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,800
YES i don't recognize her from. ANYTHING i think she's

794
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,239
been In Chicago hope or.

795
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,679
Speaker 1: She was In The verdict With Paul, newman which was

796
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,079
a big court drama in the early.

797
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: Eighties, yeah she's been in some. Stuff.

798
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,039
Speaker 1: Yeah they actually got her because she was a stage

799
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:06,199
actress and so they saw her in a play that

800
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,480
she was.

801
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: IN i thought she was. Fantastic oh, yeah.

802
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: Great her character is.

803
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: A little bit goofy to. Me that's one of the

804
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,079
flaws that The New York Police department has a sword

805
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,079
expert at their beck and, call ready to handle all

806
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,039
sword forensic.

807
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,199
Speaker 1: Problems forensic. Scientist she is a sword.

808
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: Expert she's both because there are such.

809
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Things i'm an, Attorney i'm a, Guitarist i'm a. Podcaster

810
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,199
you can't put me in a. Box Bro.

811
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: She's a forensic genius and super sworded. Expert, yes, okay, fine,

812
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,119
fine but.

813
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,119
Speaker 1: She was A she was a perfect casting because she

814
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:53,360
could play. Intelligent, yes she is pretty without being overwhelmingly

815
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:54,000
SO i.

816
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: Thought she was very.

817
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 1: Attractive by the. Way speaking of super sexy attractive, women

818
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,519
ba's Flash Gordon Christopher lambert's love interest for several years

819
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:11,039
like Twenty Sophie, marceau who of course was the princess In.

820
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:14,519
Braveheart sorry, yes and also a bond.

821
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:16,119
Speaker 2: Girl heck, yeah the world is not.

822
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Enough speaking of other hot, Girls Dino Dealer entis's granddaughter.

823
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,079
Speaker 2: Freaking Jiatta oh my.

824
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: Gosh.

825
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,519
Speaker 2: Majors, yeah and she can.

826
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: Cook that makes her major.

827
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 2: Majors all, right so we've cot oh, no, no, No So

828
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Roxanne heart was chosen Over Brook, Adams Rosanna, Arquette Jennifer.

829
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Beals Brook adams had gotten the. Part Brook adams got

830
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:41,239
the part and fell, through is that? Right? Yeah And

831
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Roxanne hart was there to jump into the.

832
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Place AND i told you Brook adams is a whole

833
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,840
lot on man for. Me, also they Wanted Tanya roberts,

834
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,400
okay and she passed to do a youw do a?

835
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,679
Speaker 1: Kill?

836
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay how about?

837
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: That?

838
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: Nice all, right that's casting For.

839
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: Highlander, Okay so just another quick. Character So Lieutenant Frank,

840
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,079
moran the kind of chief, inspector is played By Alan,

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,800
north who Was dreben's partner in The Police squad series

842
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,159
that led To Naked.

843
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: Gun.

844
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Yep, wow that's. Awesome you.

845
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,199
Speaker 2: Know one of the things you mentioned was some of

846
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,960
the deleted, scenes but there are a bunch of scenes

847
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,880
that were filmed For, highlander INCLUDING i think one major

848
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,840
scene With. Castigear, yeah like McLeod's. Friend, yes all those

849
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,679
were filmed and then lost in a warehouse.

850
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: Fire, yeah they cut. Them they were supposed to. BE

851
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,559
i believe is A japanese immortal and he was working

852
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:40,760
in some office complex and they were supposed to be

853
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,199
and there was this big fight that they filmed between

854
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,239
him and The kurgan but he was using two. Swords

855
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,880
he was using the two sword samurai. Technique look like

856
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,320
it might have been, good but all we have left is.

857
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,440
Photographs that's too.

858
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,159
Speaker 2: Bad it's too. Bad here's the last bit of INFORMATION

859
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:56,719
i want to give to.

860
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,599
Speaker 1: You ok you're ready for.

861
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: This, yes this is going to blow your.

862
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,679
Speaker 1: Mind you're read for. This.

863
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,679
Speaker 2: Yes according to this particular, actor he was offered the

864
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,519
part Of connor.

865
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: McLeod, okay but he.

866
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,039
Speaker 2: Turned it down to focus on his wrestling. Career Hulk

867
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,800
Hogan ladies And gentlemen says that he was offered the

868
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,400
part Of connor.

869
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: McLeod, Yeah i'm gonna go ahead and disagree with. That

870
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,440
that's not. Possible he might have been The. Kergan he. Might,

871
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:23,480
oh he'd been in the wrestling scene at the. Beginning

872
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,000
that's what they offered. Him he was gonna fight the

873
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:27,440
fabulous free Bird.

874
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:33,519
Speaker 2: Hulk, Hogan ladies And. Gentlemen, NO i don't know If

875
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:34,360
I'm i'm not going for.

876
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,519
Speaker 1: THAT i don't Think i'm gonna buy. That, Okay, okay all,

877
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:37,599
right so we don't cast.

878
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: It don't cast, him.

879
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: All, right both?

880
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: Movies all, right now we're onto.

881
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:45,599
Speaker 1: The movie ready for? Production, Yes, okay. Guys that is

882
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:46,519
the end of part.

883
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: One join us next. Week we will.

884
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,559
Speaker 1: Be back for part. Two until, then be sure and

885
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,840
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886
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887
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00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:06,320
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889
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890
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894
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