WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:04.400 Hello and welcome. Thank you for having me. Appreciate you 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:06.480 taking the time of coming out on private talk. I 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:08.439 have seen you a lot around me. 4 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:11.000 Just signed at AVN next to each other at jorn 5 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:12.679 and booth, so I had to get to know you 6 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:16.440 a little bit more personally, put a private conversation between 7 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:17.839 me and you to get to know you a little 8 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:18.239 bit better. 9 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:21.719 Yeah, I'm excited. So tell me about AVIN. How is 10 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.079 AVN for you? Avian was crazy? 11 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.839 Is that your first AVIN? Because it was my second one? Okay, Yeah, so. 12 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.000 I ended up signing for eight hours a day between 13 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:34.399 three different boots. 14 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.439 Crazy. That was a stake. That's a lot of all 15 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.520 That's a lot. That was an a stake. I'm sure 16 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:41.679 your fans loved it though. 17 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.520 Yes, you know, in terms of the convention, it was 18 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:47.799 like people were coming up to me, They're like you, 19 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:51.320 We're everywhere, like, oh yeah, I was just their different outfit, 20 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:51.799 you know. 21 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.600 So why did you choose this year to maybe do 22 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.479 three different companies where you just torn to like to 23 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.640 see which one did you have like beaveritisms between different booths? 24 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.240 Like tell us more about how you decided to work 25 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:04.079 eight hours a day. 26 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:09.439 At av So Jewles is my guy, so he always 27 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:10.200 gets priority. 28 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.560 But Jules was uh. 29 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:17.959 Really pushing it on giving me my schedule, and so 30 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:19.560 I just I didn't really know. 31 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.079 And then plug Talk asked me if I wanted to 32 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.640 sign porn Hub asked, and you. 33 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.680 Know, everyone get a little bit of sprinkle. 34 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.640 Yeah. Yeah, So I was like, you know what, I 35 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.239 think you can push yourself try this, you know you 36 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:33.959 guya always try it once, you know what I mean, 37 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:34.760 maybe next year. 38 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.319 Or maybe not see or maybe one ooth in the hours. 39 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:40.799 But I think it's always a fun time to kind 40 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.359 of get to interact in different booths sometimes because each 41 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.400 company is a different vibe and the fans also get 42 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.400 a little bit more of you in a different aspect, 43 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:50.840 right right, So I think that that's really interesting to 44 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:52.959 see the dynamic of how that plays out. 45 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.480 Yeah, So tell us what you've been up to this year. 46 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.760 It has been that long into the year, But are 47 00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:59.480 you have any new projects coming out? 48 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:04.319 So I've just been going okay ever since. 49 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:09.280 Describe what going me going In January, starting at the 50 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:12.719 beginning of the year, I was in Australia, flew back 51 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.400 to La landed at Lax, went straight to set for 52 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:17.159 Adult time. 53 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.080 So that was like a twelve hour set. Okay, that 54 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.520 was kind of my first work day of the years. 55 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.319 It seems to be like a part of like a habit. 56 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:30.520 Yeah, you constantly were Do you ever get any breaks? 57 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.039 I am admittedly pretty bad about giving myself breaks. 58 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:35.400 I'm trying to I'm working on it. 59 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:39.080 Okay, that's always you're aware. Yeah, okay, so you flew in, 60 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:41.960 you did a twelve hour shoot. Is there You're doing 61 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:43.800 all these shoots in your work, you know, every day, 62 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:45.919 which is you know or what it seems like? Yeah, 63 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.080 and he was just good to get your content out 64 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:49.560 there and be a part of that. But is there 65 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.479 anything that's special that you haven't done yet that you're 66 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.800 kind of working on or bakery empty this year? Yeah, 67 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.719 I'm just looking to expand kind of the stuff that 68 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.240 I've on. I have my first like feature film coming 69 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:05.199 up exciting next month, so I'm. 70 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.319 Very excited about that for a digital playground. Awesome. 71 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.280 Yeah, how was that different from your normal kind of 72 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:12.599 scenes how I was doing features? 73 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:13.360 Did you like it? 74 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.719 I mean, I haven't done it yet, so so this 75 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.719 is coming up like next week? 76 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:21.680 Oh awesome, But yeah, I scripted kind of. 77 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:24.000 I do I kind of do do you ever want 78 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.960 to be, you know, an actress before you got into 79 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.680 the ador or any. 80 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:33.000 Really I've done like little short film type things for 81 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:34.639 like friends and stuff like that. 82 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:39.360 But I guess like in middle school, I was in drama, 83 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:40.199 So I don't know. 84 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.439 I like the obscurity and like just the. 85 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:49.680 Absurdity of it all, you know, of like we're pooring performers, 86 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.280 but we're like having to learn lines and like really 87 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.520 act and stuff. So you know, I'm excited for the experience. 88 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:59.520 That's great. I can't wait to I can't wait to 89 00:03:59.520 --> 00:03:59.800 watch it. 90 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.879 Yeah. 91 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.319 Yeah, is there any you know, people that you haven't 92 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.280 worked with yet that are kind of on your hit list? 93 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:07.240 This is twenty twenty four. 94 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.000 Yeah, so I am apparently the only person in the 95 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.000 world that has not worked with Johnny Simms. 96 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:19.199 Okay, so we've had co Yeah, we've had in a 97 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:19.920 very long time. 98 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:21.759 But he definitely is a good performer. 99 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:27.079 Yeah, we've exchanged dms and somehow it always just gets lost. Okay, 100 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.279 So Johnny hit me up. 101 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:34.839 Johnny yesterday twenty four. I'm sure he will not applige. Yeah, 102 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:35.959 who else. 103 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:42.000 Danny Dee I would love to work with Scott Nails 104 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.199 I've ever worked with. For some reason, I would love 105 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.000 to work with him, just like random people were my 106 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.319 boyfriend at one point. Oh she not literal boyfriend, but 107 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.560 when you're up set and you see the same person on. 108 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.079 Yeah, you're like we go together now. 109 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:53.680 Yeah. 110 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:58.480 Yeah, But I mean I will say I have worked 111 00:04:58.480 --> 00:04:59.120 with the. 112 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.160 Majority of the people that I've wanted to work with. 113 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.800 But you know, we're always looking for a new dick. 114 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.800 New dick is always great. Yeah. So let's go back 115 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.480 a little bit before you got into the industry. How 116 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.879 describe the like how you like your first like sexual 117 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.399 experiences kind of happened to kind of make you into 118 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.439 this you know woman that you already so, you know, 119 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.600 strong and kind of just owning your sexuality. 120 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.560 How did you get to this point where. 121 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:28.160 You are today as far as like the interlaping of 122 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.680 your sexuality. Okay, I've always like a promiscuous girl growing up. 123 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.680 Were you very like adventurous? Were you like trying to 124 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.879 see like if you could make yourself Like what are 125 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:39.720 those like steps of like when you're like, oh wait, 126 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.160 I need to go into like an adult world where like, right, 127 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:43.879 I need to see other people like me too, so 128 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:45.079 we cannot go together. 129 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.279 So I guess this sounds really weird, but I was 130 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.560 like a really horny kid. Okay, So I started masturbating 131 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:54.959 when I was like literally four years old, like to. 132 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:56.879 The point where it was like a thing that my 133 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.720 parents would you remember getting like in trouble. 134 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:01.560 We're like, oh yeah, I would get in trouble all. 135 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.439 The time because I would have this one blanket that 136 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:07.480 was just like humped okay you know, and like you know, 137 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.480 you know, and then like it was like a thing 138 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:13.120 within my family because it wasn't like a sexualized thing. 139 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.360 It was just like kind of like a dog humping 140 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.399 like okay, stop, you know. So that was always a thing. 141 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.120 And then I don't know, I was always kind. 142 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.600 Of boy crazy, even as like a little girl. Like 143 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:28.439 anytime there's like an older man, boy. 144 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.319 So you were always attracted see like older. Yeah. 145 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.319 So then I would, you know, think I'm doing something 146 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:38.639 I'm probably not because I'm a child, right, But that. 147 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:39.360 Was always a thing. 148 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.120 And I was a really cute kid too, so like 149 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.720 I saw the way that men would react to me, 150 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.079 you know, even if it was like oh my. 151 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.199 Mom's friend's husband or something. It was always like Oh, 152 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:52.959 you're so cute, you know all this shit. 153 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.040 And so when I got into grade school, like I 154 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:01.519 lost my virginity really young. I lost it at twelve, 155 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.439 which I think is a little bit younger than most people. 156 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.759 And once that happened, was just kind of like, oh, 157 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:11.360 we're doing this now. 158 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:12.199 Yeah, it's like. 159 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.839 Now, you know, walk us through that where it's like, 160 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:16.959 obviously you're at a young age. At that point, you 161 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.600 don't really know a lot of anything life and the 162 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.079 yes or no or anything like that was after that 163 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.079 point when it like kind of opened those doors. Is 164 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.800 that kind of like were you wanting more because you 165 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:29.079 liked it? 166 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:29.839 Yeah? 167 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.160 Wanting more because you were like was it was this 168 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.319 person with you or was it just something that you 169 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.839 were just and you were kind of like the instigator. 170 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.600 It definitely was me. So like when I lost my virginity, 171 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.040 that was a surprise. Okay, So we had been dry 172 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.639 humping for god knows how long. 173 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.720 You know, it's just the kid classic. 174 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.480 It was dry humping and one day, like you know, 175 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.360 we're dry humping and I feel pain and I look 176 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.920 down and I was like, oh, there's like a dick 177 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:00.639 inside of me. 178 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:02.959 And I was just like I didn't even talk about it. 179 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.720 Yeah, because like to me, in my mind, I was like, well, 180 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:10.000 this is obviously the next iteration, right, you're like dry humping, 181 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:14.879 You're right in of like what you're Yeah, And once 182 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.720 that was kind of broken, I was like, oh, like 183 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:20.800 I'm like a woman, you know, because I had gotten 184 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:21.959 my period super young. 185 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.439 Tell you do you think that you at that time? 186 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.240 I even remember like feeling that you were an adult, 187 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:29.879 like it words like it as switching changing of like 188 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:33.120 maybe you kind of thought leaned into that sexuality because 189 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.000 of that experience. Yeah, definitely. So did you continue having 190 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:38.039 sex or did you stop for a while? 191 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.159 Continue? Okay? 192 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.440 Yeah, And then it wasn't just like that guy, right, 193 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:44.720 because now I'm like, oh, now this is the thing 194 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.679 I do. And it was weird because I was always 195 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.480 dating guys that were a little bit older than me. 196 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.159 You know, Like I dated a guy when I was 197 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:55.799 thirteen and he was eighteen. 198 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.519 I was so do your pario, no idiot, And at 199 00:08:58.559 --> 00:08:59.360 the time didn't know this. 200 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.200 You were just off being a cute little girl and 201 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.320 be okay, go to my friend's house and to go like, well, 202 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:06.720 I wasn't really allowed out, so I. 203 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.559 Would sneak guys in or sneak out of my house. 204 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.559 So my parents had no idea. 205 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:12.879 This was happening in ano their room. 206 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.480 Yes, okay, yeah, and. 207 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.519 Yeah I was always dating guys that were older. 208 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.960 But it was weird because it felt like I had 209 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:28.039 more sexual experience, yeah or something, you know, Like I 210 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.279 remember I would date guys that were maybe three four 211 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:34.799 years older, and it was like I was giving them 212 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:35.879 their first blow job. 213 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:38.519 So were you like kind of giving them lessons, like 214 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.080 in a sense of like leading the way, like being 215 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:41.759 like let's. 216 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.639 Do this or you know what I mean. They were like. 217 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.519 Yeah, because like when I was a kid, all I 218 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:49.000 wanted to do was be an adult. Okay, that's like 219 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:53.480 I wanted to have a job and like pay bills. 220 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:57.159 That's like a release, laughing joke. Can I go back 221 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:00.399 to a kid? Any response ability? 222 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:00.879 Right? 223 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.279 And so I kind of just really fell into it 224 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.320 as like oh, I'm a woman, like this is what 225 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:12.000 you do, And like I liked impressing the older guys 226 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.200 that would be with with like oh I'm instigating, Oh 227 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:17.399 I know what I'm doing, And a lot of times 228 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:19.679 sometimes I didn't really know what I was doing, but 229 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:20.960 I was just you acted like it. 230 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.159 Yeah, if you make it exactly, yeah, exactly. The confidence 231 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:24.759 is everything. 232 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:29.200 Yeah, okay, so that escalated. So where do we go 233 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:31.639 from there? You know, you start dabbling and things like 234 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:34.600 this really young, you know, and so you were doing 235 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:37.279 things that you probably shouldn't at those things right right, 236 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:38.720 we should you. 237 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:40.360 Know, be a little bit big. But that's not how 238 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:41.320 everybody's story is. 239 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.080 Which, so where do we go at that point is 240 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:48.240 did you searches stripping? Did you like walk away from everything? 241 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.440 Did you continue? Like how did you get to adult? 242 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:52.320 Yeah? 243 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.080 So I moved to New York when I was seventeen 244 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.440 and I went to college in New York. And first 245 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.240 year I was surrounded by people that were like really 246 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.559 rich and I was not used to that at all, 247 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:11.120 and it was like a really weird like power dynamic 248 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.320 almost where you're like, oh, I don't have shit, but 249 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:17.039 I'm around people that are like general rationally wealthy, you know. 250 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:21.000 And I had something happen in school where I was like, 251 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.799 this is not the school for me. This is too good, Yeah, 252 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.320 this is too expensive. I'm going to try to figure 253 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:26.759 things out. 254 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.960 So I left school for a year and in that 255 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.519 year I had to make ends meet with no college 256 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:38.799 degree in New York City and I like started working 257 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:44.000 at a barbershop and whatever. But someone had suggested. 258 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.399 Like what about like maybe getting like a sugar daddy 259 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:49.879 or something. And this is twenty ten, this is the 260 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.000 year before I'm like, website. 261 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.000 Well, this is actually the year that sinking arrangements actually started. 262 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.879 Okay, so it was like brand new. I'm a little 263 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:02.840 do I know. I'm like, oh yeah, so it was 264 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:03.480 brand new. 265 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:04.759 And I was like, you know what, let me get 266 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.399 on the site, let me see what I can do. 267 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.240 And I'm gonna be honest. Those that first year, I 268 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.600 was just getting assaulted left and right, you know, because 269 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:18.440 I'm eighteen years old. I don't know how to have 270 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.360 these conversations. I don't know how to set boundaries and say, hey, 271 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:23.879 I don't like this or I'm not comfortable with this. 272 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:25.440 How much money am I getting? 273 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:27.919 Can I get it now? Dad? I just didn't really 274 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.759 didn't know. You didn't know. I didn't know how to 275 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.279 assert myself true for sure. And I think that's a 276 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:36.639 thing with women in general, right. 277 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.159 It takes time to build up the confidence to be 278 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:41.399 to stand up for yourself. I think it comes I 279 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.679 think it's you know, individual, I think, and I appreciate 280 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:45.200 you sharing your story it would be and I. 281 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.399 Think it's like I think that we don't. 282 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.559 It comes a lot from not knowing your work because 283 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.960 no one ever taught us that and what they're supposed 284 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.039 to well not know them in every situation, but some 285 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.000 most girls don't have that, you know, situation or person 286 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.039 to look up to or tell you what to do 287 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.600 and or how what that looks like. And you know, 288 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:05.799 sometimes you do have that and you still want to 289 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.799 figure it out yourself. So there's all different angles of 290 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.440 those things. So I definitely as myself of being a 291 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.519 younger and I've gotten poor when I was twenty one, 292 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.799 there's certain things that I don't regret doing, but I 293 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.600 also knew that I didn't want to do them. 294 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.000 I didn't know how to where my voice was. 295 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.879 Ye and it is takes time to like and it sucks, 296 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:26.080 and it's sad that you know, you just being a 297 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.200 confident sexual woman who wanted to do what she wanted 298 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.080 to do for yourself, had to go through the like 299 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.000 bad parts of it if someone assaulting you and crossing 300 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:36.720 your boundaries. 301 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.039 But it's also like we didn't know what our boundaries. 302 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.120 Were ex so it's like a great area of things 303 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:42.519 which doesn't mean like any make. 304 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.600 It right or wrong, right, right, right or wrong or right, 305 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:45.000 you know. 306 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.480 But it's like where you are now, it's like taking 307 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.600 that kind of back and having your voice now as 308 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.879 the sex worker that you are. And you know it's 309 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:55.120 not of all of who you are, it's you know, 310 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.879 a part of who you are. But it's like where 311 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.440 those roots lie from where it's like you are worthy 312 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:04.080 of somebody to respect you doing this seeking arrangements because 313 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.360 that's there for you, right right, and he wanted to 314 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:08.840 go there and do your thing at eighteen you're young, 315 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.399 dema full of them well like y right. You know. 316 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.120 It's in those things where it's it sucks that that's 317 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.799 unfortunate times happens to younger girls when you're trying to 318 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:18.679 navigate your way right where it's like you know, and 319 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.279 that's why I also for why I love the adult 320 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.039 industry is like it's a safe space where you know, 321 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:24.759 we're tested. 322 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:25.639 There's you know, you. 323 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.200 Have no lists, you have you know, your very verbal 324 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.919 agreement before you conent creators of what don't you like 325 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:33.399 what you know what I mean? And so It's not 326 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.240 like that in other places where I feel like the 327 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.720 industry gets such a bad name sometimes, and I'm like, 328 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.279 I think it is the best place for people, you. 329 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.879 Know, like us to want to explore the right right 330 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.320 safe environment, right yeah. 331 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.720 I mean so that first year, like I made money. 332 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.840 I made money I had never seen before, you know. 333 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:57.279 But then I met a man outside of this, like 334 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:00.080 this is the longest he was going to take. 335 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:02.799 No, he had no idea I was doing this. He 336 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.679 sat me on Tumblr, okay, like and he was twelve. 337 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.919 Years older than me, and we just hit it off 338 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.080 and we ended up in a relationship for seven years. 339 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.799 To stop doing yeah. Yeah, and he. 340 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.919 Is the longest relationship I've ever had, you know. And 341 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.120 I was like, you know what, like I'm gonna go 342 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:27.440 straight and narrow. I went back to call Enghige all 343 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:32.559 this stuff and started working marketing at a multi billion 344 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.440 dollar company. Like you know, I had a very normal 345 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.200 life and a trajectory that was so clear. 346 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.840 Right, and then I lost my job. 347 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:51.799 Like there was two really big uh. 348 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.559 Relorncs in the company. So I made passed the first one. 349 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.679 The second one I didn't pass, and they fired like four. 350 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.759 Hundred people and I'm like, fuck, now what do I do? Right? 351 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.840 I had this big important job and it was like 352 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:04.960 it's such a big resume thing. 353 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.080 So I'm like, okay, you know, I'm gonna find something better. 354 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.480 And then I got back into the field and I'm like, wait, 355 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:16.120 I'm getting things that are like way more work for 356 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:20.360 less pay or just like shitty job titles like what 357 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.120 is going on? And I kind of like sell into 358 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:26.200 the most depressed I've ever felt, you. 359 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.200 Know, like I thought my life was over. I was like, 360 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.440 where do I go from here? 361 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.919 And one friend was like, here's some sugar, right, you 362 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.159 should do that again, like you are pretty good at that. 363 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.039 And I was like, well, now I'm in my mid 364 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:42.519 twenties and enough time has passed where I have, you know, 365 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.120 developed more of a sense of self personality. 366 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.360 I can like start myself a little better. I'm like, 367 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:52.240 let me try again. So I was working some bullshit jobs. 368 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.240 I worked at a boyfriend's still in the picture. This 369 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:56.360 is near the end. Okay. 370 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:01.039 So I was working on a spins cycle. 371 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:05.240 Studio and then pestler and a barbershop at. 372 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.440 The same time, and then I was also sugaring when 373 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.440 I was not doing those jobs. 374 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.759 And very quickly I was like, wait, I'm good at this. 375 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:14.440 I'm really good at this. 376 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.240 And so I just did it for a few more 377 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.039 months and I was like, Okay, now I feel comfortable with, like, 378 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.279 you know, meeting men, all this asserting myself. And I 379 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.000 was like, let me step it up a not lunch. 380 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:27.920 I'm already become an escort. 381 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:29.759 And I had. 382 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.599 Already been so connected with people in sex work, and 383 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.079 I just started watching what everyone's doing, and I was like, 384 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:39.319 everybody has a proton mail and I was like, I 385 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.279 think that's like a if you know, you know. 386 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:41.880 Sort of thing. 387 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:46.200 So I was like, just get a proton mail email, 388 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.799 get a proton mail email, and just put it in 389 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.000 your Twitter bio and see what happens. 390 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.000 So that's all I did. Then I started getting emails 391 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:57.640 asking about bookings and all this stuff, and I was like, 392 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.240 oh sure. 393 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.480 I never nervous or like afraid at that time, Like 394 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:07.000 I mean, yes, but at the same time, I you 395 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:10.200 were just like fuck it. I had like nothing to 396 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.680 lose at this point, you know, and I was like, 397 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.640 let's try it. I did it like over ten years 398 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.359 prior when it was super super dangerous, so I'm like 399 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:20.880 I'm older. 400 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.119 Now I got this, and so I started getting emails 401 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:25.640