1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpetclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,320 your support. So people think, oh, Pete, you get off 10 00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:36,320 the air at three o'clock, that must be nice. Your 11 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,479 day ends at three o'clock. Haha, it does not, No, 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,280 it does not. For example, on Friday, well I do 13 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,320 the hangover with Brett Winterble, so it doesn't even end 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,920 at three. But at like three point fifteen, I left 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,119 the studio and I went home, and I started listening 16 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,759 to the speech that jd Vance, Vice President jd Vance 17 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:04,519 delivered at the Munich Security Conference where the previous day 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,680 like thirty blocks away and Islamis ran over a whole 19 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:11,599 bunch of people. We may not ever know the reason. 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,000 I think he was shouting something like a Loha snack bar, 21 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:18,480 so we may never know the motive. But Yeah. The 22 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:24,280 Munich Security Conference was the site for JD Vance's trip 23 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:28,159 to the wood shed with the European leaders, and he 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,879 delivered it not in some stern, angry way, but to 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,319 the woodshed they did go. He talked about how they 26 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:46,200 are threatened from within. Why glad you asked, because they 27 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:52,359 are abandoning the very things that was essentially the West's 28 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:59,560 unique value proposition. This was our strategic advantage versus the 29 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:05,200 Union during the Cold War, right free society versus an 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:12,919 authoritarian society. And now, having you know, dispatched the USSR 31 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,560 to the dust bin of history, they have begun adopting 32 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,560 and we are part of the Western civilization. We have 33 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:28,120 begun adopting some of the very things that the Soviets utilized. 34 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:34,800 And that is not good, not good, particularly on the 35 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,840 free speech front. And somehow or another, this concept of 36 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,319 free speech has now turned into like on the on 37 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,199 the left, they hear the terms free speech and they 38 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,879 associate that with right wingers that somehow or another, the 39 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,520 concept of free speech is something that those evil, nasty 40 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,719 conservative right wingers are talking about, and and and they 41 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:08,719 just they just want to espouse hate. That's why they 42 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:13,159 do it. Well, actually, you know, free speech has been 43 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:19,280 a cornerstone of this project, this American project, since its inception, 44 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,879 and there are always, you know, court cases that test 45 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:27,560 the boundaries of what is you know, allowable under free 46 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:31,159 speech and what kind of restrictions there might have to be. 47 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,840 I'm not going to say fire in a crowded theater 48 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,120 because that was not actually a Supreme Court ruling. So 49 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,719 there are restrictions though, like you cannot you know, call 50 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,120 for you can't go up there and you know, direct 51 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,520 people to go murder somebody and then go and and 52 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:49,520 and then the people go and murder people like then 53 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,080 there are going to be penalties for that kind of speech. 54 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,879 But over in Europe they have begun to take and 55 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:05,639 ever more restrictive view on what is and isn't allowed. 56 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,159 And we have seen this here for some reason, and 57 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:12,319 I don't understand why. There are a lot of people, 58 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:16,759 particularly on the left, the political left, that looked to 59 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,879 Europe for guidance on a whole mess of stuff. And 60 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,920 I don't understand why that is, Like the people who 61 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,279 came here from Europe came here because Europe stinks, right, Well, 62 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,800 I mean at the time, let's just say that, Well, 63 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,959 but they still kind of anyway, like Europe was not 64 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,000 a good place for them to be. They wanted to 65 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,040 exercise religion, they wanted to exercise their free speech rights, 66 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:48,000 they wanted to petition their government for redress, they wanted 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,600 to own property, I mean, crazy things like that, and 68 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:55,399 so they fled, they left. They didn't like it, they 69 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,600 didn't like what was going on over there. And so 70 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:02,480 I don't know why we look over there for any 71 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,839 kind of guidance really on anything any longer. But for 72 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:13,720 some reason, this growing appetite to clamp down on dissension 73 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:20,480 among your own citizens. It is a it's a force. 74 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:27,000 It has gathered a lot of momentum, and I think 75 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,800 it was most acute we saw during the American elections 76 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:37,040 in twenty sixteen twenty twenty a little bit, but not 77 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,439 so much. Well I shouldn't say not so much, but 78 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:43,279 not as much, let's say, as the previous two election 79 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:47,560 cycles with Donald Trump. I believe, like my own personal 80 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,600 experience was that there was more ability for people to 81 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:59,839 post stuff online, if that's any indication. But COVID was 82 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,639 a really bad example of it, right, people getting deplatformed, 83 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:07,000 and by the way, all of this stuff connects back 84 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:13,759 to the USAID operations all of the NGOs, and I 85 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:16,120 did also over the weekend get a chance to sit 86 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:18,720 down and watch almost all I'm thinking about. I think 87 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:20,920 I have about twenty minutes left of the three hour 88 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,560 interview that Mike Ben's did on the Joe Rogan Show, 89 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,639 and honestly, Joe Rogan, I think didn't even really speak 90 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:29,639 at all. It's like the whole three hours is Mike 91 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Ben's just going through all of the receipts, like literally 92 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,759 receipts showing you know where this money comes from and 93 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,800 where it goes, and the operations and whatever you think 94 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,199 of the outcomes, the point is the same, which is 95 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,279 that these government entities, these agencies and their affiliated NGOs 96 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:57,319 have been used to foment color revolutions in other countries 97 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:03,920 and now even our own. And that's a problem. That's 98 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:11,240 a problem. So Vice President JD. Vance goes over to Europe, 99 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:15,920 goes over to the Munich Security Conference on Friday, and 100 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:20,439 he confronted them. According to the National Review report on 101 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,240 this by Haley Strack, he confronted them over their support 102 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:29,199 for authoritarian restrictions on speech, putting the assembled dignitaries on 103 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:33,279 notice that the Trump administration expects the continent to revive 104 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,759 its commitment to Western values. I'm not so sure that's 105 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,399 going to work. CBS immediately rushes out to defend the 106 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:48,319 Europeans on this, and I saw where is it here? 107 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:52,240 From Eric Erickson, talk show host out of Atlanta, and 108 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:54,240 he makes a really good point on all of this. 109 00:07:55,519 --> 00:07:58,360 Oh the internet's down again. It was a good run. 110 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:01,360 I had a good run. It was like fifteen twenty minutes. 111 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:05,199 I had it up that I had my moment. Anyway, 112 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:11,759 Eric says a postmodern conceit of the left, the postmodernist left, 113 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:18,079 is that free speech is bad and good speech is good. See, 114 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,480 good speech is whatever advances the left's power, and defending 115 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,879 free speech is to elevate Nazis. You may recall the 116 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:35,879 ACLU used to defend the Klan and neo Nazis because 117 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:40,080 they their argument was they too have the right to 118 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:43,080 free speech. You may not like what they are saying, 119 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,399 but they have a right to say things. Now, over 120 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,559 in Europe they do not have free speech protections like 121 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 we have in America, which is why they can do 122 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,480 some of the absolutely crazy authoritarian crap that they've been doing. 123 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:05,039 And events. He also came with receipts and he laid 124 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,240 them out. He gave like half a dozen examples of 125 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:12,639 these authoritarian excesses. And then of course a guy from 126 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:15,440 Germany gets up there and he's like, we're doing nothing wrong, 127 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,559 Like whoa, whoa whoa German Like, maybe maybe you're not 128 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,879 the best person. 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He worries about, yes, threats from outside, but 159 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,039 also threats from within. 160 00:11:19,159 --> 00:11:23,639 Speaker 2: The retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, 161 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,600 values shared with the United States of America. Now, I 162 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:31,320 was struck that a former European commissioner went on television 163 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,399 recently and sounded delighted that the Romanian government had just 164 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,840 annulled an entire election. He warned that if things don't 165 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:44,279 go to plan, the very same thing could happen in 166 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Germany too. Now, these cavalier statements are shocking to American ears. 167 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,919 For years, we've been told that everything we fund and 168 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,240 support is in the name of our shared democratic values. 169 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,519 Everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed 170 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,799 as a defense of democracy. But when we see European 171 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,799 courts canceling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others, 172 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,159 we ought to ask whether we're holding ourselves to an 173 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,360 appropriately high standard. And I say ourselves, because I fundamentally 174 00:12:21,399 --> 00:12:22,960 believe that we are on the same team. 175 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,799 Speaker 3: We must do more. 176 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Than talk about democratic values. 177 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,879 Speaker 3: We must live them. 178 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,519 Speaker 1: He went on to say that he is concerned about 179 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,039 the slide in Western civilization since the Berlin Wall fell 180 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,440 in nineteen ninety one. 181 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: Now within living memory of many of you in this room, 182 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,120 the Cold War positioned defenders of democracy against much more 183 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,960 tyrannical forces on this continent. And consider the side and 184 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:57,799 that fight that censored dissidents, that closed churches, that canceled elections. 185 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: Were they the good guys? Certainly not? 186 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: And thank god they lost to the Cold War they 187 00:13:04,519 --> 00:13:08,320 lost because they neither valued nor respected all of the 188 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,519 extraordinary blessings of liberty, the freedom to surprise, to make mistakes, 189 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,840 to invent, to build. As it turns out, you can't 190 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:22,279 mandate innovation or creativity, just as you can't force people 191 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,440 what to think, what to feel, or what to believe. 192 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:29,799 And we believe those things are certainly connected. And unfortunately, 193 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,840 when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so 194 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,840 clear what happened to some of the Cold War's winners. 195 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Boom yeah. Mike Ben's on the Joe Rogan podcast over 196 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:44,440 the weekend when I watched most of that as well, 197 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:48,720 talked about this shift that occurred after World War II, 198 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:54,399 which was, you know, no more hot wars, right, the 199 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,720 kind that we saw in World War one, world War two. Right, 200 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,919 things moved into political warfare and the things that the 201 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:06,480 United States and the other Western countries did in order 202 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:12,960 to undermine autocratic governments and and you know, communist governments, 203 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,720 And there were all these different avenues. And that's why 204 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,200 USAI D, for example, is involved in so many different 205 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:30,840 operations including music. He yeah, apparently, like there are connections 206 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:36,759 with so many of our musical acts he mentioned by name, 207 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:43,039 dua lipa. Have you heard this of this performer? Yeah, 208 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,039 and there's another one. Remember that Russian punk band that 209 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:51,840 was another one bono from you two. 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That's the purpose. 241 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:50,200 And when you restrict all of that, you are now 242 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,480 on a road towards authoritarianism. Oh. He also talked about immigration, 243 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,559 the rampant migration that Europe has been allowing, much like 244 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:02,240 the Oh, I just actually I just saw well I 245 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,160 didn't well, I don't know if I don't know if 246 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,480 I flagged the tweet, but I saw I saw, like 247 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:13,440 the number of border crossings at the different like Eagle 248 00:17:13,519 --> 00:17:20,519 Pass and the various border crossing points. It's down. I 249 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,960 think there, Oh, here it is. I found it as 250 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,359 of Yeah, this is the total southwest border crossings as 251 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,920 of yesterday. L Passo seventy five. This is for the 252 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,839 first like what six weeks of the year, seventy five, 253 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:45,240 rgv Rio, Grand Valley eighteen, Laredo thirteen, Del Rio thirteen, 254 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Big Bend seven. Total border crossings two hundred and thirty. 255 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,039 And we didn't even need any new laws by Congress 256 00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:01,880 to do it, despite what the media and Democrats, but 257 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,480 I repeat myself and some Republicans sold us, we have 258 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:07,559 to pass this border bill. We need these tools. We 259 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:11,559 can't possibly get control of this. So what happened? Were 260 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:14,880 you guys lying? Yes, you were lying. We have all 261 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,079 of the laws we need, we just needed to start 262 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,279 enforcing them. And when you start enforcing them and telling 263 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:24,359 everybody that you're going to be enforcing them, people stop coming, 264 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:31,200 which actually saves lives because the people don't die on 265 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:35,039 the trek, they don't get raped on the trek. It 266 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,240 is a more humane approach to border security than to say, hey, 267 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:41,160 everybody downloaded an app and then if you can pay 268 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,519 the five thousand dollars to some rapist coyotes, then you 269 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:49,519 can get in anyway. You'll hear some of JD. Vance's 270 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:52,319 comments on the migration issue too, but he raises that 271 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,720 issue because it is an example of how the leaders 272 00:18:55,759 --> 00:19:02,480 of these countries are not listening to their citizens. Here 273 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:06,160 we go. This is from the National Review. A majority 274 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:13,079 of French, German, Dutch, Italian and Portuguese citizens believe that 275 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,000 their country, their countries should have stricter border security measures 276 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,480 to curb illegal immigration. Most respondents to a Tyson Group 277 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,559 EU dash US Forum. It's a nonprofit of some kind. 278 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:35,839 I'm sure they're getting our money to They did this 279 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,680 polling and most respondents from France, Italy, Portugal and the 280 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:43,119 Netherlands all agree. Quote, I am more worried today than 281 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,559 I was a decade ago about government censorship of my ideas. 282 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,640 Vance ran through a series about half a dozen examples 283 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,279 of laws and court rulings against free speech that are 284 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:07,160 designed to protect people from being offended, Like that's their rationale, 285 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:12,279 You're going to offend somebody. Your comment is offensive to somebody, 286 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,640 so therefore we're going to find you. 287 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: This last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish 288 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,359 government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within 289 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,759 so called safe access zones, warning them that even private 290 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:32,000 prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, 291 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,759 the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected 292 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,440 guilty of thought crime. 293 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: In Britain and. 294 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,519 Speaker 2: Across Europe, free speech, I fear is in retreat and 295 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:47,119 in the interests of comedy, my friends, but also in 296 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,200 the interests of truth. 297 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: I will admit that. 298 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes the loudest voices for censorship have come not from 299 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,359 within Europe, but from within my own country, where the 300 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,400 prior administration threatened and bullied so media companies to censor 301 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:06,880 so called misinformation. Misinformation like, for example, the idea that 302 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,240 coronavirus had likely leaped leaked from a laboratory in China. 303 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,599 Speaker 3: Our own government encouraged. 304 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: Private companies to silence people who dared to utter what 305 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,880 turned out to be an obvious truth. So I come 306 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,400 here today not just with an observation, but with an offer. 307 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:29,079 And just as the Biden administration seemed desperate to silence 308 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,640 people for speaking their minds. 309 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,519 Speaker 3: So the Trump administration will do. 310 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,599 Speaker 2: Precisely the opposite, and I hope that we can work 311 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,319 together on that. 312 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,519 Speaker 1: So you mentioned in that clip safe access zones. This 313 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:46,119 is around abortion clinics, and they're arresting people for being 314 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:54,200 in a quote safe access zone and silently praying, right, 315 00:21:54,359 --> 00:22:00,160 just standing on a sidewalk, head down, praying for the 316 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,160 souls of the babies, praying for women to make a 317 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,640 different decision. Right, They're just people are just standing there praying, 318 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,279 And now you can't do that. That's illegal. That's it's 319 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,960 a safe access zone. And then they just sent out 320 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,559 in Scotland, they sent out a notice, Hey, if you 321 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,440 happen to live in a house that is in a 322 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:27,599 safe access zone, you can't even pray silently in your 323 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:35,440 own home. This is insanity, Like, first off, how do 324 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,960 you get busted for that. Somebody in your home who 325 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,359 disagrees with you rats you out. This is the kind 326 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,839 of stuff that we saw in authoritarian governments that utilized 327 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,680 secret police and they actually relied on their neighbors. That's 328 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,599 the vast majority of this stuff, of the ratting out 329 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,279 of people that then were disappeared by the government. It 330 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,119 came from their own neighbors and family. All right, I 331 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,880 hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell me 332 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,640 if something like this happened at your house. 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And while he says we may disagree 353 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,960 on your views, we will fight to protect your freedom 354 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,640 to express them in the public square. And this brings 355 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,640 us back, he said, to this conference, that we're at 356 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,160 right here in Munich. 357 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: Where the organizers of this very conference have banded lawmakers 358 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,759 representing populist parties on both the left and the right 359 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:39,960 from participating in these conversations. Now, again, we don't have 360 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:44,680 to agree with everything or anything that people say, but 361 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:49,720 when people represent, when political leaders represent an important constituency, 362 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,880 it is incumbent upon us to at least participate in 363 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,119 dialogue with them. Now, to many of us on the 364 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,440 other side of the Atlantic, it looks more and more 365 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:05,039 like old entrenched interests hiding behind ugly Soviet era words 366 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,480 like misinformation and disinformation, who simply don't like the idea 367 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,519 that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different 368 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:18,759 opinion or god forbid, vote a different way, or even worse, 369 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,799 when an election. Now, this is a security conference and 370 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,480 I'm sure you all came here prepared to talk about 371 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,799 how exactly you intend to increase defense spending over the 372 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:33,319 next few years in line with some new target. And 373 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,160 that's great because, as President Trump has made abundantly clear, 374 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,839 he believes that our European friends must play a bigger 375 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,279 role in the future of this continent. We don't think 376 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,440 you hear this term burden sharing, but we think it's 377 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,039 an important part of being in a shared alliance together 378 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,519 that the Europeans step up while America focuses on areas 379 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:57,759 of the world that are in great danger. But let 380 00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:01,440 me also ask you, do you even begin to think 381 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,799 through the kinds of budgeting questions if we don't know 382 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,519 what it is that we are defending in the first place. 383 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Right, right, Like, what is it that we're trying to defend? 384 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:16,440 Is it just you know, the infrastructure of power that 385 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:20,279 currently exists, and that's what you're defending. Well, that's not 386 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,359 a defense of the democracy, right, you're abandoning your values, 387 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,799 the things that made us superior. You're abandoning those for 388 00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:36,680 personal political gain to maintain control so you can be 389 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:43,160 calling the shots you've got like there were politicians, As 390 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,319 he said, in that clip that were not allowed to 391 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,680 come to this conference for political reasons because they're expressing 392 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:58,160 opinions that citizens that they represent hold, and you don't 393 00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,160 like those opinions, and so you're just going to shut 394 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,599 them out. You're going to pretend that it's, oh, it's 395 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,880 just some fringe idea. Oh, they don't represent people. Oh 396 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,599 my gosh, you saying this thing about you know, limiting immigration. 397 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,480 That that is you know, that's offensive, that's racist, or 398 00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:25,799 some you know, phobia. That's a threat to the democracy. Right. 399 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,000 It is the fatal conceit of the central planners, and 400 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,319 it manifests itself in all these different ways, and this 401 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,880 is one of them, which is we don't need the 402 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,640 wisdom of the crowd. I've given this example before. I 403 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,480 forget it was who told it to me one day 404 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:46,440 during an interview during COVID, And the example he gave was, 405 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:51,160 you know, Anthony Fauci, he goes to a baseball game 406 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,119 at the Washington National Stadium, and he may be the 407 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,279 smartest person in that stadium, but he is not smarter 408 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,240 than everybody in that stadium. Everybody of the seventy thousand 409 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:10,000 people they are going to have collectively more wisdom, more 410 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,160 intelligence and knowledge about all sorts of other stuff than 411 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680 he will. He cannot be smarter than all of those 412 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,720 people put together. And that's the fatal conceit. They think 413 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,400 that they know these things, whether it's about planning the economy, 414 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,880 planning immigration, foreign policy, whatever it is, zoning right, all 415 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,079 of these types of these types of issues, they think, well, 416 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,240 I know what's best. I'll do the thing that's best. 417 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:39,599 I encounter this all the time. He said that the 418 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Security Conference has focused a lot on what they are 419 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,720 defending themselves from. He says, but what are these nations 420 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,319 defending themselves for. 421 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: What is the positive vision that animates this shared security 422 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 compact that we all believe is so important. 423 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: And I believe deeply that there is no security if 424 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,119 you are afraid of. 425 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,599 Speaker 2: The voices, the opinions, and the conscience that guide your 426 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,039 very own people. Europe faces many challenges, but the crisis 427 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,880 this continent faces right now, the crisis I believe we 428 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,759 all face together, is one of our own making. If 429 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,680 you're running in fear of your own voters, there is 430 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,400 nothing America can do for you, nor for that matter, 431 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680 is there anything that you can do for the American 432 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:38,480 people who elected me and elected President Trump. You need 433 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:42,400 democratic mandates to accomplish anything of value in the coming years. 434 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,680 Have we learned nothing that thin mandates produce unstable results? 435 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,119 Speaker 3: But there is so much of value that can. 436 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,279 Speaker 2: Be accomplished with the kind of democratic mandate that I 437 00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:57,400 think will come from being more responsive to the voices 438 00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:58,599 of your citizens. 439 00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Right, this is very basic, elementary stuff. You cannot govern 440 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:13,640 a citizenry that disagrees with your governance. They will eventually revolt. 441 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,920 It becomes an unstable society, and then you end up 442 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,079 having to crack down, clamp down more and more violence 443 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,119 and authoritarian policies against your own people. It's not sustainable 444 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,480 and it is not the thing that the West was 445 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:30,400 built on. All Right, that'll do it for this episode. 446 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,559 Thank you so much for listening. 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