WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:09.599 I don't know. 5 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:14.400 How it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:15.880 All I saw was my dog. 7 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.160 Coming over the fence and he was dead. 8 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:18.920 And once you hit the ground, like, I didn't see 9 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:20.879 any cars. All I saw was my dog coming over 10 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:21.320 the fence. 11 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:38.960 Sat what are you putting? 12 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.759 We got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 13 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:51.920 Did you see what it was? 14 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 15 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing up? I'm out here looking through the window now 16 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 17 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:05.480 Jesus Quice, you better hello, get somebody out here when 18 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.680 I'm out there. I thought of a bitch about Text 19 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:08.480 fort nine. 20 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.359 I don't know he's him out there. Yeah, I'm working right, Hey, right, 21 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:14.159 folks on, welcome my guest to the show. It is 22 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.519 Jason from my home state of North Carolina. Welcome to 23 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:17.959 the show, man. 24 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:18.840 How you doing. 25 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.680 I am good man. I've been looking forward to this conversation. 26 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.359 I always like to have people on from the Southeastern 27 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.920 United States. That's why Sasquatch Odyssey was born was to 28 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.560 talk to people in the southeastern United States about Bigfoot. 29 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.760 Here we are, man, let's start where I start with 30 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.519 everybody on the show what in the world got you 31 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:37.159 interested in the subject of Sasquatch? 32 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.519 To begin with, I'm gonna go with what everyone always 33 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.239 starts with, the whole Leonard Nimoy in search of That's 34 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.719 my first memory in all honesty, and it went up 35 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.439 to Robert Stack and unsolved mysteries. I know he had 36 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:54.920 a couple. It's just a creepy soob no matter what 37 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.760 episode he was gone getting up in my high school years. 38 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.959 From what my grandmother has told me, what we'll talk 39 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:06.439 about here, Rag Sheet, the Weekly World News. If you 40 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.800 remember those, you know, bat Boy, Sad Squatch, Netsy. I 41 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.400 always took those with a greenish salt, bigger their faith. 42 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.520 But then when you watched Men in Black, they said 43 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.080 they got their good UFO stories and they were real. 44 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.360 So part of me was always like, is there some 45 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:26.719 reality mixed in with their little government disinformation? And then 46 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:30.840 I watched more documentaries probably than I should, probably an 47 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.000 unhealthy amount. On to be and everywhere else. 48 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.960 That sounds like the progression for everybody that was into 49 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.360 big Foot very much like me. I never really watched 50 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.360 the Leonard Nimoy in search of that is usually a 51 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.599 go to for people, and I'm oblivious to it. I'm 52 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.560 aware of it, obviously. I do multiple podcasts. I do 53 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.719 a show called Disturbing History, and I've talked about those 54 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.479 things over on Disturbing History, the old television shows and 55 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.400 those kind of things. But Unsolved Mysteries was definitely it 56 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.759 for me. NeSSI was my first love, my first cryptid, 57 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.840 even before Bigfoot, so that certainly got me interested in 58 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.439 it back then. I don't know if it was the 59 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:05.879 same for you, But when I was a kid, I 60 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.800 remember they had these traveling book things that would come 61 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.039 to the library and you were able to buy books 62 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.560 from these traveling bookstores. I used to love those things 63 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.719 because they had a lot of the cryptid stuff that 64 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.319 wasn't normally in our library on a regular basis. But 65 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.039 we did have a few of those, and that's what 66 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:26.639 got me interested in cryptis you mentioned your grandmother her 67 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:29.319 having some experiences or sharing things with you. Did that 68 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.560 ground it a little bit more in reality? As far 69 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:33.840 as what your grandmother. 70 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.840 Told you grounded me and scared me. I don't remember 71 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.759 how old I was when she told me about it. 72 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:40.759 I remember when I would spend the night at her house. 73 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:45.599 She lived in a duplex, so anytime the neighbor would 74 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:50.080 walk around heavy footage, I'd think him bigfoot. I'm eight nine, 75 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.960 ten years old, terrified with some big fricking hairy man 76 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.199 that's going to come through the wall, because she had 77 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:56.719 to keep calling him bigfoot. 78 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.759 What is it that she shared with you? Was it 79 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.240 a personal experience or was it something that's happened to 80 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:02.639 somebody else that shared it with her? 81 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.319 It is going to be a mix of both. So 82 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.400 I'll start off with her own personal experience from what 83 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.599 she had told me. Again, I don't remember how old 84 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.919 I was, in all honesty, just I know I was 85 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.839 a kid, and I don't know how old she was 86 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:22.639 when it happened. So this happened up in New York, Pennsylvania. 87 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:27.720 We give her Finchow State Park, which is south central Pennsylvania. 88 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.519 Her and my aunt, Aunt Bett's, we called her. She 89 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:36.079 wasn't biologically my aunt, but we would all go camping 90 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:40.240 so much throughout life that just naturally became the aunt. 91 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:42.560 But they used to go camping a lot. So I'm 92 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.519 going to assume this probably happened before I was born 93 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.519 or shortly after, but they were camping there time of 94 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.600 the year, I don't know. I'm going to assume the 95 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:57.639 way she described things with me, probably spring, late summer. 96 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.160 They were there camping a a fairly decent sized campground. 97 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.360 When you go into the ranger station, you go in 98 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.000 and check in. The first road to the left would 99 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.399 be your first camping area. It's on the left side 100 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.759 of the lake, goes back, circles into a loop, and 101 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.480 then meets that road and comes out, and you go 102 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:18.439 down to the next road, come out to the main 103 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.560 road again, and there's a whole other camping section back 104 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.800 in there. So they were camping on that first one. 105 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.920 She didn't say how many days they were there or whatever, 106 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.000 but they were out at the campfire one night and 107 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:34.560 heard some kind of vocalization. They weren't sure really what 108 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.319 it was initially that she said it just started faint 109 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.920 from kind of like howling the way she made it 110 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.879 out the sound, and then as the night went on 111 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.879 again no real time frame or if she didn't tell me, 112 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.560 I just don't remember all them old she said they 113 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:53.199 could hear it getting closer. Dogs were barking off in 114 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.279 the distance, and as it got closer and closer, the 115 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.680 dogs would stop barking. She said it was loud enough 116 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.639 and a creepy enough sound that they'd never heard before 117 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.000 with all their time camping. That they were like, you 118 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:07.439 know what, let's get in the camper. This is just 119 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:11.120 creeping us out. So they got inside the camper. The 120 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.240 sound continued to get closer, to the point where she 121 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.800 said that all of the night sounds went away. So 122 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.000 being by the light there and you got your frogs, 123 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.800 your crickets, night birds, the dogs in the area. But 124 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:30.439 as this occasional vocalization got closer, everything went silent. They 125 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.120 were like, that's pretty creepy. Then she said, out of nowhere, 126 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:40.160 they heard what sounded like heavy footballs running through that 127 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.079 part of the campground. Now how close it was, I 128 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:45.839 don't know. She made it out to sound like it 129 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.199 was between them and the bath foul, which was probably 130 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.839 because they liked to be a couple sites close to 131 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:55.079 the bath house. Two three sites between them and the bathouse. 132 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.759 They heard it run through there, no panting that I 133 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:02.759 remember saying, just the the sound of something flooding through 134 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.920 the grass. And then they can't play the felt, and 135 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:07.839 then off to the left side of the lake where 136 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:12.680 they heard one or two more of the howling or yelling, screaming. 137 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.920 Then it faded off into nowhere and the sound came back. 138 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.040 She said, a couple of years later, Hurt and my 139 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.839 aunt went to I don't know what they've called it then. 140 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:25.680 I can't even think of what we call them now, 141 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.959 big Foot conference, steminar, or something along those lines. I 142 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.759 didn't even think they would have had those back then, 143 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.240 but I'm ignorant to it. But they were there and 144 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.560 somebody had some kind of audio recording, whether it was 145 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.399 the Sierra Sound or some other recordings, but they played 146 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:47.519 the recording whatever they had, and one of the sounds 147 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.160 that they had played was very close to the howling 148 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:53.839 that they heard, and she said they both turned to 149 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.680 each other turned white, and she said, we were going 150 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.720 to piss her pants. She said, we are a bigfoot. 151 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.759 I'm like lucky dog. And that's really her only encounter 152 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:06.720 that I want to call it an encounter, but the 153 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.800 only experience that she's ever had. Now. She did patron 154 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.480 to me again at a later age that her brother 155 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.759 he lived beside her, and the other deep like him 156 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:21.920 and his wife. He was fishing in the Iola area 157 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:27.439 of Pennsylvania, which is directly across pretty much directly across 158 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:31.040 the river from Harrisburg, state capital. So you got Harrisburg 159 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.399 the Susquehanna River. It was a pretty big railyard over 160 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.440 the railroad town. He was fishing in a creek called 161 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.200 the Conna the Gwynnett, which is a tributary of the Susquehanna. 162 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:44.720 It's pretty good fishing up and there for panfish, small 163 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.639 mouth bast and stuff. So he was down along the 164 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:51.000 creek trying to make his way up the creek, and 165 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.200 he got into some real thick brush and was trying 166 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.600 to work his way through that. She said. He told 167 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:01.519 her that he started smelling something horrible, to the point 168 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.679 that he figgered, you either stumbling on a dead deer 169 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.600 or a dead person, that's how bad it smelt. Apparently, 170 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.080 he pushed through the brush a little bit more and 171 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.519 all of a sudden something jumped out of the brush, 172 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:20.159 and all he described it was some hairy, disheveled, homeless 173 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.200 looking thing jumped up out of the brush and tore 174 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.000 off up the hill. Now, the hills in that general 175 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.559 area where she described it aren't just your twenty foot 176 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.679 hills that you could easily traverse. They were a decent 177 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:41.120 forty fifty foot bank that are generally only walked on 178 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.679 by a deer coming down from the field. If you 179 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:45.840 wanted to walk along the creek the fish, you had 180 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.559 to find one of those deer trails to go down 181 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.399 in or started wherever you park along the road and 182 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.679 walk along the creek. This thing supposedly made a bee 183 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.519 line straight up the hill. I'm imagining if no general 184 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.159 human that is going to make a bee line up 185 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.799 through thick underbrush woods, because that place was pretty overgrown 186 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.480 back then, and it still is now. Leaks down along 187 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:12.320 the creek there, it's still pretty overgrown now. We'll caveat 188 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:17.559 with that. He either was just starting in the police 189 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:21.519 department or already was in the police department. I don't 190 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:23.960 remember if it was East Pennsboro Township then or it 191 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.039 was actually Vianola Police department. But when I had questioned 192 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:30.279 him about it, I remember questioning him my youth, He 193 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:32.639 wouldn't talk about it. What did you see that day? 194 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.120 I was interested. Mama said she saw or heard a 195 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.759 big foot, So tell me your story, he said, don't 196 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.759 worry about it. It was nothing, just some guy. I've 197 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.480 pushed him and pushed him for it, and he wouldn't 198 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.440 tell me. My only reasoning that he wouldn't tell me 199 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.480 because the fact that he was a cop and did 200 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:55.679 not want to ruin his credibility for back then, if 201 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.879 a cop says they saw bigfoot, now everyone's going to 202 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:02.039 make fun of um. So you're looking. However, many years ago, 203 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.159 decades ago, someone says they saw big but they're gonna 204 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.879 be like crazy, get out of here. It's gonna need to 205 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.840 be a cop. I never asked them about it again, 206 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.039 he passed away, never really talked about it. I wish 207 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.559 I could have heard more. I really do so as 208 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.159 far as those two, that's really about it. But that 209 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.600 squats I have heard my own. I consider myself a 210 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.879 critical thinker, so I try to overthink everything and say, 211 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.279 there's got to be some real, something real happened to it. 212 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:31.759 But part of this I don't know if they would 213 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.240 play into it. But there was a period of my 214 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.720 life that I lived in Surrey. After me and my 215 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.440 then wife lit up, I had the house where we 216 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.919 lived in Missouri was rural, to say the least, I 217 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:47.399 think western North Carolina is more grown up than where 218 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.320 this place is. Our county roads are creek gravel, and 219 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.519 only paved roads are the state roads or in the 220 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.320 town itself. There was only one real big town in 221 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.799 this whole county. So the house we lived in, my 222 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.840 closest neighbors were a half a mile to the north, 223 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.240 quarter a mile to the south. I had absolutely no 224 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.720 neighbors behind my house and absolutely no neighbors at the 225 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.200 front of the house. So on occasion I would hear 226 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.919 a random donkey brain in the middle of the night. Now, 227 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.960 being in the country, we're going to have donkeys, especially Missouri. 228 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.200 Missouri uses a donkey. A lot of people use the 229 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.200 donkey that livestock guards versus the Great Pyrenees. And I 230 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.519 had to question that one, and they said, a donkey 231 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.600 bolt trump a snot out of it. I said, okay, 232 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.480 I'll have to believe you. But every once in a 233 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:40.039 while I'd hear this donkey. Never during the day, but 234 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.240 during the day i'd get out, I'd go down to 235 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.279 the next county road eventually run behind my house, and 236 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.080 I would search for any kind of farm where there 237 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.240 may be a donkey. I couldn't find it now doesn't 238 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.080 mean some yokel didn't have a small pen with a 239 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.279 donkey in there, But I could never find any. Would 240 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.360 pull up my home on Google Mac search around for 241 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.000 any kind of farms, and there was nothing. There was 242 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:12.080 a pretty decent amount of forest behind my house, field hollows. 243 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.080 The sound generally always came from the same area, which 244 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.720 would have been southeast of my house. So could it 245 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.720 have been something further down that I didn't explore traveling 246 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.360 up the hollows. We all know how sound traveled, especially 247 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.240 trying to travel a little different at night. I don't know. 248 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:30.320 There were a couple of times that when I did 249 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.240 hear them brain, I would hear the one normal bray, 250 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.960 then a few minutes not even really a few minutes later, 251 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.120 within about a minute, there would be a second one 252 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:44.159 that would sound just a little bit off, not quite 253 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:48.399 very similar, but like the ending would not really trail 254 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.320 off like they do. And I think, Okay, you know what, 255 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.360 it's just a donkey. It's the country. I know they 256 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:59.000 mimic ver sasquatch does. Could it be there? Could it 257 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:02.240 be just me hoping to see you one? I don't know. 258 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.399 I've always had stuff walking around the house. But again 259 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.080 it's country, so I got kyo, I had beer there, 260 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.480 I had Armadillo's and I don't think we haven't that 261 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.360 here yet. But you get an armadala running through the woods, 262 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.759 it sounds like a elephant coming up through there. I'd 263 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.679 go out there at the flashlight and I'm looking. I'd 264 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.879 catch eyes once in a while. I'm just playing that off. 265 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.320 It was just an armadillo again, hoping maybe i'd catch 266 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:29.200 a going to the big guy. But I think it 267 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.080 was just an armadillo. Being the realistic, critical thinker and 268 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.559 living in a country house by myself with a Chihuaha 269 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.480 for a guard door. I was really about with that. 270 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:42.279 The girl that my ex wife, she knew I was 271 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:44.759 in the big Foot and stuff, and she had told me, 272 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:49.279 and supposedly somebody there in the county had turned it 273 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:56.799 into the Sheriff's department home security footage of their outbuilding, garage, 274 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.120 whatever you want to call it. The door, their door 275 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:04.320 sway inwards, and supposedly when it came inwards, the inside 276 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.720 light was the motion activated and you could see a 277 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.639 big hand like four of the fingers wrapped around the door. 278 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.919 And once that light came on, it quickly withdrew and 279 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:14.600 took off. 280 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:17.919 And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. 281 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:18.799 We'll be right back. 282 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:25.440 After these messages, I was like, you need to get 283 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:28.320 me that I work for the Sheriff. I can't full crap. 284 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.600 What's the the Sunshine act? I think it is. I 285 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:34.919 wanted to do that or whatever that act is, try 286 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.639 to get back that could be nationally. So I don't 287 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.480 want to say too much bad about her. I tend 288 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.559 not to believe a lot of things that she said, 289 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:44.919 so I took that one with a grain of salt. 290 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.519 So that's it for my Sasquatch stories. I wish I 291 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.320 could have something more fantastical or multiple encounters of my 292 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.240 own or something like that, and I'm hoping someday it 293 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:55.879 might happen. 294 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.039 But I totally get it, man, And people have this 295 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.720 thing all the time when they right into the show, 296 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.759 they talk about their encounters, their experiences, and everybody's downplaying 297 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:09.159 what happened. But I tell you, it's all data. This 298 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:13.279 is a repository for data of people's experiences. So even 299 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.759 the smallest minute things like you talked about the sound 300 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:20.639 you possibly heard a donkey, but I have heard weird 301 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:23.879 shit myself in the woods here that I thought was 302 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:29.519 something else. I've heard what sounded like strange sick cows 303 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.840 now four or five miles down the road. There's plenty 304 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.679 of cows up and down this road, but I'd say 305 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.399 the closest cows are at least two miles away. Easy. 306 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.720 But the way sound travels through this area, anybody who's 307 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.720 followed me on social media, I've put the drone up before, 308 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.320 so you guys can see the entire area around the house. 309 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.360 But it's a lot of open land. There's nothing really 310 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:57.519 around us. It's very sparsely populated, but it's in this 311 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.720 little area. It's like a valley between We're in like 312 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:05.599 a bowl, and sound bounces around so crazily. Man, we 313 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.480 were camping, guys. This is probably a year and a 314 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.799 half ago. It might have been last year. It all 315 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.799 runs together. I two, as you so eloquently said, I'm 316 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.880 getting old as hell, so all the dates tend to 317 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:18.839 run together. But I talked about it on the show, 318 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:20.799 and I actually put out the audio I believe over 319 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.400 here on the show because it was so strange. Our 320 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.240 nearest neighbors that live full time are a mile away 321 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.319 and We have never heard a car alarm ever. We 322 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:35.240 live on forty acres surrounded by hundreds and thousands of 323 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.039 acres of nothing but property where nobody lives. We've never 324 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.440 heard a car alarm. That's like an Atlanta thing, a 325 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.799 Charlotte thing. We're camping and we were literally sitting at 326 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.079 the fire talking about and I think one of us 327 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:50.839 said on the audio, like, what would you do right 328 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.440 now if the house alarm went off? Talking about our 329 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.640 home alarm, I was like, I'd be running down the 330 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.839 hill ten seconds later, maybe five seconds. I think it 331 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.039 was actually like six second, and it's on the audio. 332 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.519 You hear what sounds like our truck alarm going off 333 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.200 in our driveway from where we're at on the hill. 334 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:11.359 I was like, holy shit. I grabbed the rifle. Me 335 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.599 and the dogs are tearing down the hill and I 336 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.079 get down here and there's nothing. The truck's fine, the 337 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.559 car's fine, house is fine. There's nobody to be seen. 338 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:22.720 We've never heard it before or never heard it since, 339 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.319 but clearly I'm assuming it was something I had. People 340 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.519 obviously right into the show going, oh it was bigfoot. 341 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.359 They was mimicking your truck alarm, and I'm like, no, 342 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.599 I don't think that's what was happening. I think somebody's 343 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.000 truck alarm was going off. It might have been ten 344 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.599 miles away. And the way the sound was bouncing around 345 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.200 in this holler, I don't know. It's hard to explain, 346 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.000 but you could have heard mimicry because I used to 347 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:46.799 think that was bunker Man when people used to tell 348 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.319 me stuff, like one of the first people on the show. 349 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:51.799 I think it was episode It was somewhere in the 350 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.200 less than five I think maybe three or four. I 351 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.519 think the episode's called Bigfoot Hunts with Coyotes or something 352 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.839 like that. This guy had sent me some audio and 353 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.680 he sent me some video of him during the day, 354 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.720 and I'm hearing what sounds like owls in the middle 355 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.599 of the day, which is weird, but it's not unheard of. 356 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.640 I was just in the South Mountains back in December 357 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:20.359 with NCI. It's a bigfoot research group here in North 358 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.599 Carolina that are in and around the South Mountains, which 359 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:25.599 is about forty five minutes from where I'm sitting here 360 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:28.200 in Lenore. I went out with those guys. We're out 361 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.279 in their research area middle of the day. It's probably 362 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.480 one o'clock in the afternoon and there is an owl 363 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.119 following us. I've got video of it. It's literally landing 364 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.359 in the tree twenty feet above my head and it's 365 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.720 looking at me. It's a bart owl. And there was 366 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.319 a guy that was with us that sounds just like 367 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.720 a freaking bart owl and he's talking back and forth 368 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.599 to this howl. It was the weirdest thing I've ever 369 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.200 seen in my life in the middle of the freaking day. 370 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.200 But I've heard that out in the Ozarks. As a 371 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:58.839 matter of fact, I do the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference 372 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:00.920 out there were Marianni Chu. I've done it the last 373 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.279 two years, and after we do the conference, we go 374 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.160 out and do a camp out in Missouri in the Ozarks, 375 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.720 about an hour or so away from where we do 376 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:12.960 the conference, in the middle of freaking nowhere, and I 377 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.880 have it on recording. It's this weird. Everybody I've played 378 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:18.519 it for it says, oh, yeah, it's a bard owl. 379 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:25.319 But there is this horrific scream that happens right before 380 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.960 the owl goes off, and I've never heard anything like that. 381 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:29.720 I think I actually sent it to David ellis So 382 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.759 at the Olympic Project and I think David texted me back. 383 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.359 It was something like, yeah, I think mal owls do 384 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:38.200 that during mating season or something. It's this weird scream 385 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.319 that they do. But this was like six o'clock in 386 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:42.599 the morning. It was when people were waking up, and 387 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.599 it was like, right, there's maybe ten yards in the 388 00:20:45.599 --> 00:21:05.720 woods we were doing this thing screen. No, I don't know, man. 389 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:08.039 I used to think the mimicry wasn't a thing. But 390 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.880 the longer I've been in this and the more people 391 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.240 I've talked to, I think it's possible that they might 392 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.960 mimic animals. Because I used to be like, Okay, dude, 393 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.839 if you hear an owl in the woods, it's probably 394 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:20.039 an owl. If you hear a donkey in the country, 395 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:22.839 it's probably a donkey. But now I'm not so sure. 396 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.880 Like he said, initially, I would have probably been the same. 397 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:28.079 But get sit there and watch some of these birds 398 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:31.119 that can mimic arch and de two. No, granted it's 399 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.920 a bird, but an archie dp you a kid crying 400 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.400 a car alarm, a crow basically talking mimicking back what 401 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.680