WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:22.440 You're listening to the Age of Transitions. I'm your host, 2 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.920 Darreon Frans coming here at you live this Friday night, 3 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:30.920 January twenty third, two thousand twenty six. Live every Friday 4 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.759 from the facilities of ocell dot com ten pm to 5 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.439 midnight Eastern Time. First hour Age of Transitions, Second hour 6 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.960 Uncle of the podcast. Thank you for listening. Do consider 7 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.320 going to ocelli dot com and sending a donation to 8 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.000 help the network and help check out The Age of 9 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.679 Transitions dot com is my website where you can find 10 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.479 the podcast. You can find other ways to support me. 11 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.280 Have the Patreon campaign. 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So 22 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.480 the Age of Transitions dot com is where you can 23 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.079 find all of that. Thank you for being here tonight 24 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.319 for another episode of the Age of Transitions. We're in 25 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.560 the thick of it, just doing what we can, doing 26 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.159 what we always do on this show, trying to make 27 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:50.280 sense of the senseless, and we're going to see what 28 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.040 we can and we're gonna see what we do. It 29 00:01:54.159 --> 00:02:00.480 has been that's been interesting to like look back as 30 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.400 we move forward, and that's been the project over at 31 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:09.479 the Patreon of me looking back at the old truth 32 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.159 movement slash alternative media material from when I got involved 33 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.319 in all this myself back in the mid two thousands 34 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:22.759 era and up until now, and the different the different 35 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:28.919 things that have happened along the way, and just thinking 36 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:36.639 also about from a wider lens beyond alternative media, conspiracy culture, 37 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.039 truth movement, beyond all that sort of stuff, but to 38 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.360 the greater Internet as a whole, and just trying to 39 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:45.719 understand what that is. 40 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.280 What's up shack, Yeah. 41 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.000 I just wanted to quick check something. Guys in the 42 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.080 chat room, let me know if your ibe your stream 43 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.080 is holding up okay, because I saw something that made 44 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.400 it look like we lost stream for a moment. Just 45 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.319 do me that favor. I see face shifter in the 46 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.080 Ocelli chat room. If you just tell me you can 47 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.599 hear me, just fine. I'd appreciate it because I just 48 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:13.719 had a weird indicator. But also I had a question 49 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.360 about this history because you know, the other day I 50 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.879 was listening to the I'm gonna throw a plug to 51 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.199 a weird YouTube channel, been going good, okay, good good. 52 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:26.159 Then then I took care of the glitch before it 53 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.400 became a problem, which is good thing. And that means 54 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.199 that we're also going out over on your video channels 55 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:34.159 as well. Right erin. 56 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.520 For the Uncle Hour. I actually do not use the 57 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:42.680 video streaming for the Age of transitions. Oddly enough, it's 58 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:44.800 only the Uncle should I start doing at This is 59 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.960 purely the age of transitions, purely just the podcasts I do. 60 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.319 Well, you shouldn't. It's on the Ocelli Radio network. 61 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:51.919 You should do the video of this too. 62 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:56.680 Yeah, I mean it makes sense. Yeah, I mean I've 63 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.319 I mean we're talking a little ahead of this, Chuck 64 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.919 about this. I've been thinking a lot a lot about 65 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.719 different ideas for content and like what's good, what's useful, 66 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:12.199 and that frankly, it dovetails with what Internet is, what 67 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:16.720 Internet history is, where it's going the Internet, which to 68 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.480 my mind is hell in a handbasket. 69 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:26.319 Right, you know, But but I'm watching people. But see, Okay, 70 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.079 something I noticed on the Google AI is that they 71 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.160 source a lot of stuff from obviously, you know, things 72 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:40.519 like YouTube, right, and there are people creating histories, media 73 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.000 histories of all sorts on YouTube, all right. 74 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.439 Commentary popular those are popular videos. 75 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.800 Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely insane. 76 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.639 I was comment I was on ground zero last week 77 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.199 and I commented about you know, they were like, well, 78 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.600 what about the secrecy of the mafia, and I went, yeah, 79 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.319 so much secrecy that you know, Mike Frazis and Sammy 80 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.480 the Bull have you know, YouTube channels, so you know, 81 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.720 think about that. And that's true. By the way, there's 82 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.639 also a couple other guys out there, I don't even 83 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.720 want to mention them that have YouTube channels. There's a 84 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:15.560 whole company actually devoted to talking to X mobsters, okay 85 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.879 as a media production thing, and that's all. They talk 86 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.639 to mobsters and guys who were in prison for serious offenses. 87 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.759 And you know, it goes along with our true crime culture. 88 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.399 You know, the people that watch, you know, eighty hours 89 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.600 straight of you know, forensic files. All right. Anyways, putting 90 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.279 that aside, though, there are people creating media histories, and 91 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.480 they were talking about radio. Now they just let me 92 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.480 go around on this, give me like two three minutes, 93 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:47.000 I because it's important to your project. You're aware of 94 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.920 Howard Stern obviously right now? 95 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.600 Oh yeah, yeah, I used to listen and watch the 96 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:53.639 TV show. 97 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.360 Too, right now, depending on what era it just because 98 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.439 you said TV show right away, that means you're a 99 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.040 fan after I was listening. 100 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:04.240 Okay, sure, so. 101 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.600 But here's the thing that's a different era of the 102 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.800 Stern Show where it got very visual. He had a 103 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.720 whole separate team. He had either the E Network or 104 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:13.879 he had Howard TV, which was pay per view. 105 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.759 The E channel were the ones that I was watching. 106 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:20.920 Yeah, right, and those were great. But you got like 107 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.879 a half hour out of the four and a half 108 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:23.480 hour show. 109 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.160 Yeah yeah, it's interesting. It was almost the YouTube of 110 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.399 its day where it's feeding you a clip of the show, right. 111 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.600 Like the big important interview of that day. They would 112 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.879 condense it into the Howard Stern Show on the E Network. Now, 113 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:38.839 the E Network today is a joke. It's part of 114 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.879 one of your free streaming services, right, But they were 115 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.839 trying to launch themselves as a serious channel anyway, skip 116 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.439 that they couldn't do it, But Sirius XM did all right, 117 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:53.360 And at that time it was only serious because as 118 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:57.720 we just talked about, you know, Martin Rothblatt, right, who's an. 119 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:01.120 Interesting semblistic competitor. And then they and then they merged. 120 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.839 But yeah, Martin Rothbert, yeah is the and. 121 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:07.399 Martin was angry at that science because Martin had actually 122 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:11.360 created the circumstances to allow XM to exist as well. 123 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.480 And yeah, getting international treaties signed. 124 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.319 No, she did all that or he did all that, 125 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:22.480 depending on which part of the discussion we're talking about. Okay, 126 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.120 it doesn't matter, Okay, But my point is that I 127 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:31.639 sat and I listened to this guy calls himself blind Mike, 128 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:33.720 and I find him interesting because he kind of like 129 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:37.040 goes through the history of comedy. And part of the 130 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.399 history of comedy is also to track down media talk 131 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:43.279 about you know, stand up specials and how people used 132 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.279 to view those and how they're now viewed this way. 133 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.839 And Dane Cook used you know, MySpace and this and that, 134 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:51.079 and he was also a joke thief. So he's documenting 135 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.319 a massive history of comedy and he goes into the 136 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.680 media of Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony. You remember 137 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.040 Opian Anthony. 138 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:02.720 I know of it. 139 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:05.639 I don't think I have ever listened to it at all. 140 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.800 Okay, fair enough, But for a while there, Opie and 141 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:13.160 Anthony became like the new Howard Stern when Howard Stern 142 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:19.959 left Terrestrial Radio, and they were competitors of his before that. Okay, 143 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.240 well are they based Are they based on New York? 144 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.639 They were at a certain point, that's not where they started. 145 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.080 But then again, neither did Howard Stern start in New York. Actually, Okay, 146 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.679 so I got saying, realize that, oh yeah, Howard Stern 147 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:44.840 was in Connecticut, Detroit, and Washington, d C. Before he 148 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:49.120 landed a job in New York. Interesting, okay, And at 149 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.200 one point he was like and at one point he 150 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.559 was like an upstate New York like in Rochester, I think. 151 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.360 And they made him a program director where he might 152 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.679 have had an airshift or might have not. 153 00:08:58.799 --> 00:08:59.039 I think. 154 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.519 Actually the station Mada You're kind of fired him and said, actually, 155 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.279 I'm gonna give you an upgrade in your job. I'm 156 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:09.480 gonna make your station manager or a program director. Anyway, 157 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.320 It's an interesting history and that's the way it used 158 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.080 to be done. The Howard Stern Show. Today is this 159 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:19.960 politically correct, weird a list celebrity pala around nonsense. It's 160 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.840 nothing recognizable to the old Stern Show. I'm sorry, I'm 161 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.320 coughing while I'm talking to you, but it's starting to 162 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:29.559 happen randomly here. But anyway, the point of this discussion is, 163 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:31.399 you see how I just pointed out part of the 164 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:35.519 media history you didn't know about. Right, So this guy's 165 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.759 trying to do a definitive history and he's an opian 166 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.799 Anthony fan, and he's got stuff mixed up all over 167 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.320 the place, and I'm listening to it, and I'm going, okay, 168 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.799 So I went and I go check the AI. This 169 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.200 guy's being copied by other people that are putting out 170 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:55.240 you know, purely AI driven channels, right, And you can 171 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.120 tell when they screw up phrases, and you're like, no 172 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.759 human being would try to say it that way, right, 173 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.720 Like the weirdness of the way somebody pronounces a name 174 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:06.080 or something like that. You go, there's no way they 175 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.320 would leave that mistake in there, and it's so robotic 176 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.879 sounding that screw up. You know, you're listening to an 177 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.360 AI tracked voice, and their whole channel is filled with that, 178 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.200 with like weird AI presented slide shows that have inaccurate 179 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.799 pictures that sort of match what's going on, you know, 180 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.679 like they'll turn around and say original Black Sabbath during 181 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.320 a discussion and they'll slot in a picture of Ronnie 182 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.360 James deal with Black Sabbath. That's not the original band, 183 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.840 but AI grabbed it because it's some mistake anyway. So 184 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:37.600 I'm looking at the way the slop is, you know, 185 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:43.679 very imprecise, and I'm realizing that between the AI channels 186 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.240 and guys like this who don't really know the history 187 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.639 but somehow think their opinion is the most important thing, 188 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.200 they're not only creating a whole bunch of media that's inaccurate, 189 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:57.919 but you go to the AI and the AI reflects it, 190 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.679 so it becomes the new truth. The BS becomes the 191 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.480 new truth. Howard Stern started in New York City. No, 192 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:10.159 he did not. It's just simply not the thing, you know. 193 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:14.200 And also he was making weird statements like well, at 194 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.159 this time, Howard Stern was only on and you know 195 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:19.240 Philadelphia and New York. Now that was true for a 196 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:25.399 few months, but very quickly other stations started to sign on. 197 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.519 It became, you know, many many stations all across the country. 198 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.360 And then he had to deal with CBS TV at 199 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.480 the same time he had the E Network. All these 200 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:38.159 things went on. Anyway, this guy's misstepping all over the 201 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:41.720 place because he's not a Howard Stern fan, and he's 202 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:43.399 trying to point out the you know, the power of 203 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.720 the Opie and Anthony show, not realizing that. You know, 204 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:48.480 you got to give credit to the guy who actually 205 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:53.559 did the work. Okay, he changed radio, Howard Stern did, 206 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:57.159 and you know, after he left terrestrial radio, Opi and 207 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.600 Anthony caught the flag. But anyway, not the point. The 208 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.519 point is that when you look at the alternative media sphere, 209 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:09.159 there are people that literally think Internet gave birth to 210 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:16.879 social media, gave birth to alternative media. They miss the 211 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:23.080 entirety of the online networks, the micro effect. Remember the 212 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:24.759 micro effect broadcast system. 213 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.000 I'm not sure what that is. 214 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.399 Okay, micro broadcasters all across the country. A lot of 215 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.519 them are legal, some of them legal. We're broadcasting the 216 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:45.600 radio stream from an online alternative media network. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, 217 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:53.960 so it was simultaneously terrestrial and Internet. Nobody has that history. 218 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.600 When they start talking about alternative media, their alternative media 219 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.639 history almost begins and ends with Alex Jones. They might 220 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.759 mention Bill Cooper, but he was no big deal. Then 221 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.399 came Alex Jones, Then came you know, Candice Owens, I 222 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:21.080 mean like huge gap. Yeah, totally eliminating the whole Patriot 223 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:26.559 radio phenomena, Totally eliminating the actual alternative media. You know 224 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:32.240 if you remember, yeah, you know, the the different variations 225 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.879 on all American radio. You know what was the biggest, 226 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:36.919 remember the big network? 227 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:40.279 Well I went with the with the material I've been 228 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.000 watching on the Patreon that I've been even I've got 229 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:47.039 my old DVD collection and has clips from all sorts 230 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.879 of stuff, Like there's old cable access TV shows are 231 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:58.279 pretty instructive on what the origins of alternative media, truth 232 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.440 movement and absolutely Patriot movement type of stuff came from. 233 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.000 So you got to look at that kind of thing too. 234 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.279 And yeah, you definitely have to go back. You have 235 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.360 to go back, you go behind, you gotta see through, 236 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.000 and yeah, there's a lot of work to do and right. 237 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.480 But because these people what you're talking about, Yeah, because 238 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.320 these people are taking superficial looks at things. They even 239 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:25.360 give the wrong description of what they call cable access. 240 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.200 Yeah, they probably don't even know what it is, right, right. 241 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.879 They basically go in some major cities they might have 242 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:35.039 had a cable access network and I'm like, no, that 243 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:40.159 was all across the country and pretty much any community 244 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.000 that asked for it got it, okay, because it was 245 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.480 like there was some FCC rule about. 246 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:51.159 This, yes, yes, And I don't know exactly how it was. 247 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.480 Worded, but it was almost like if the community asked 248 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:54.639 for it, you had to provide it. 249 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.159 Yeah, a cable provider I believe had to put up 250 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.440 the money, uh to fund Yeah. 251 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.159 I think that's how that wrks. 252 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.279 Right, which is how I end up in Nutley, New Jersey, 253 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.440 in the same studio where the Uncle Floyd Show is. 254 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.039 You ever hear the Uncle Floyd Show? 255 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.799 It sounds familiar, but again never seeing it. 256 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.679 Okay, that's part of the cable access history that was 257 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:20.240 a huge cult success where tape traders even though this 258 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.679 isn't like a tri state area thing in New York, 259 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.960 New Jersey, and I know they always argue, it's New York, 260 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.879 New Jersey, Connecticut. But when I was a kid, I'm sorry, 261 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.240 it was actually New York, New Jersey. Pennsylvania was your 262 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.519 tri state area. There we go, okay, But now they 263 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.360 say it's New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. Whatever. Let's 264 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:43.360 consider all four of them. The metropolitan area. Our media, 265 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.480 the stuff that I could see on a TV broadcast 266 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.200 or on local cable. Our stuff would get taped and 267 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.799 sent to other places. This is how people were excited 268 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.639 to hear about Howard Stern before Howard Stern never showed 269 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.519 up in a lot of other markets because Howard's fans 270 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.440 in New York were tape traders. See that's an element 271 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.960 that's missing from this. How the hell does anybody know 272 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:14.720 about May Brussel, who broadcast out of Carmel, California, realistically, because. 273 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.279 She sent active because she just has her She has 274 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:21.480 her tiny little radio broadcast that doesn't go anywhere. It 275 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.440 has to be transported by the tapes and all that. 276 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.200 It was literally done that way because you could sign 277 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:31.639 up for it, right, So even if somebody gave you 278 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.200 a free tape of theirs, at the end, she'd say 279 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.240 listen if you want, you send you know, ten dollars 280 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.320 to me and I'll send you you know, next month's tapes. 281 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.159 Whatever it was, you know, back in nineteen seventy whatever. 282 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.440 And literally she was distributing her show by a tape 283 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:50.279 in the seventies. Yeah, and people, Well, I'm not saying 284 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:52.960 it's a huge audience, but my point is it gives 285 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:59.279 her access to the greater market these conventional methodologies, much 286 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.759 like you and I giving out DVDs when YouTube was 287 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.200 not in existence yet, right, is exactly how people got 288 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.640 video because video online was a pain in the ass. 289 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:14.880 Nobody could sit there and had the dialups. Remember dialups. 290 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:17.440 Imagine do you remember what it was like to try 291 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.440 and get a two minute video clip or through a 292 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.559 dial up connection. You'd be sitting They're downloading it for 293 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:28.079 three days. I mean, I'm not kidding. My point is 294 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.440 it's not about oh, look, you know it was better 295 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.119 than I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that 296 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.200 because these people have no connection to the history, they 297 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.480 go through a superficial scoop. So I think that people 298 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.160 that listen to you need to understand exactly how lucky 299 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.319 they are that they've got a guy who has his 300 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:53.880 fingers in various eras directly participating was what you were doing, 301 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:55.960 you know, when you went to make a film. 302 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.160 Had the Kimble Access TV show. 303 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.160 Right, which is something that you know. Listen, you're a 304 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.559 little younger than me. Guys my age should have had 305 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.240 cable access TV shows. Alex Jones had a cable access 306 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:11.680 TV show. He did, he did, So you were actually 307 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.319 a little young to be doing that, but you did 308 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:17.039 in any lass I was, I was, and you were 309 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.160 aware of the other guys I bet that did it. Yeah, 310 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:22.920 some not every. 311 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.000 Yeah, some of them, not everybody, but yeah, yeah. 312 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:29.680 So my point is they got to realize that there 313 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:35.519 is a serious benefit to somebody who actually participated in 314 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.599 things that these other guys, even guys that are this 315 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:40.880 guy blind Mike by the way, he has a great 316 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:44.000 radio voice and he's a legally blind guy, and I 317 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:48.559 feel like he ripped me off a little bit anyway. 318 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.160 But he's doing the history of comedy instead of conspiracy. 319 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.400 I mean, if he does a conspiracy video, it's about 320 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:58.240 you know, joke stealing. But he's he's got the dark 321 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.920 glasses on, focuses on the fact that he's very little vision. 322 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.279 I mean, I literally hear him say some of the 323 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.039 same stuff that I do about it because it's a 324 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:07.400 common experience and there's not too many legally blind guys 325 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.480 that attempt to broadcast, and he's got a video thing 326 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.240 going anyway. My point is, though, that this guy tries 327 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.400 to explain the evolution of media and he cannot do 328 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:20.480 it because he doesn't have the right context and the 329 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:25.480 materials not available on the Internet any longer. No, So 330 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.359 that's the weird thing. Like, here's another part of history 331 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.119 people forget about. You know, today you got to buy 332 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.400 your space and your website and this and that. But 333 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.720 at a certain point in the nineteen nineties, people went 334 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.839 to places like angel fire and. 335 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.640 Tripod yes, yeah, GeoCities there. 336 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.960 You go, and you could get a website. You could 337 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.559 get a free one, which you know, had about as 338 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.319 much data space as it takes to like, you know, 339 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:57.519 do a full sized photograph. Today was your whole freaking website. 340 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:00.759 I mean literally like one MP three This show would 341 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:02.880 blow out your website from nineteen ninety seven. 342 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.839 Oh yeah, oh yeah, you couldna do it. 343 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.160 No, and then but you could pay a monthly fee 344 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:11.839 and then they would give you more, you know, more 345 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:18.400 storage and then you could put bigger files onto it. Okay, yeah, anyway, 346 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.359 and that's my point is I learned how to, you know, 347 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:27.079 create websites on tripod, which was not super helpful. 348 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:31.079 For you know, you had to literally create stuff. 349 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.119 You know, tell it exactly how wide you wanted to 350 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.599 make the bars on the screen, and you know, describe 351 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.720 how far down you wanted them to go. Uh and 352 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:43.079 you had to have a color code and things like 353 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.599 this in order to create you know, a bar on 354 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:51.240 the screen. Today you know it's click, push, drop, drag 355 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:55.039 and drop this and that that didn't exist either. The 356 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.960 closest thing we had is you could make something they 357 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:02.119 called oh my god, was it JavaScript, which still exists 358 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.960 in drop down menus today a version of it, but 359 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:12.559 early JavaScript was very clunky and difficult to program. Okay, 360 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:17.920 even creating buttons was a hassle. Okay, anyhow, Look, I'm 361 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:20.000 not trying to reminisce. What I'm trying to say is 362 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:24.559 that I think that people you need to make them 363 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.880 understand and be very careful and fill in the blanks, 364 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:30.960 don't skip over it, because there are so many of 365 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:35.839 these other guys that think they're telling a story that 366 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:39.759 they do not know the details of because there's like 367 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:43.240 I said, no cable access. No you know, hey, there 368 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:45.839 used to be long and short wave radio. They have 369 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:50.440 no idea, no idea. They don't even know about tape trading, 370 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:55.440 you know. And when they're talking about the alternative media, 371 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.039 they have now morphed it all into the alt right 372 00:21:59.440 --> 00:21:59.839 like that. 373 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.079 Yeah, well that's they have monopolized and become the whole 374 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.599 of all media and that's what it is. So that's actually, 375 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.640 I mean, that's one of I don't know if that's 376 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.039 the end end point I'm trying to make with this 377 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:18.200 whole project, but sort of that you know that that's 378 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.400 what usurped the whole of everything that came before it, 379 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:27.000 and you know, we know what that is serving, so. 380 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.920 But usurping it is one thing. My point is that 381 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:35.720 you were actually a living witness to the fact that 382 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:40.880 there has been an erasure of this information and they've 383 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.640 switched the narrative to make it look like, you know what, 384 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.880 there were Nazis on the Internet, and then there were 385 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:50.039 all right people on the Internet and that's who your 386 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:57.079 weird little podcasters out there were. Yeah, yeah, I mean 387 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.960 there are guys like in their sixties and seventies that 388 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.680 encounter my show because they know me from something else. 389 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.319 They encounter my show and for some reason believe that 390 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.799 I must be part of like maybe ten years ago. Oh, 391 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:16.160 you're probably one of those Alex showns people. But these 392 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:20.039 older guys that are coming to me, now, what are 393 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:24.680 you some kind of Nazi? I literally had a school 394 00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.880 age a kid that went to high school with me 395 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:32.559 who knew that I knew certain people and knew that 396 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.240 I was kind of like a little strange when I 397 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:39.160 was in school. I thought that I might be interested 398 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.599 in hanging out with him, like in Idaho with like 399 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:43.000 a bunch of white supremacists. 400 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:49.039 Ah, yes, northern Idaho, that is a hot bed for them. Yeah. 401 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:51.519 About two years ago he got in contact with me, 402 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.680 thinking that since I was obviously part of the earlier 403 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:58.960 al right stuff, that well, I'd probably be right in 404 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:01.319 line with them. Why don't come up here bring your family? 405 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:05.680 Well that's that's an interesting point because it goes to 406 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:14.000 that actual group. They themselves, it seems believe that so they, 407 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:18.799 the actual extremists, have been made to believe that, you know, 408 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.920 they are the owners of this, and sounds like they 409 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.279 like it and they use it as recruitment, right, It 410 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:28.519 kind of seems like this is what's going on there, 411 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.799 a little bit which I hadn't really thought of. 412 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.680 But like I said, it is such a blessing that 413 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.119 you're able to present the counter myth that indeed those 414 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:43.000 people existed in this world. But they were for a 415 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:46.920 long time, not the majority, not even close. 416 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.839 Well, they were always there obviously, but yeah majority, No, 417 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.920 always a minority, always a vocal minority, always a problem, 418 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:01.480 consistently a problem, always a distraction, right, but yeah, never 419 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:05.200 the center. Never the center, I would say, not now either. 420 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:09.200 But be that as it may, it doesn't really matter 421 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.880 what reality is. Just matters what the narrative is at 422 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.119 any given moment, which it can change on a dime. 423 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.880 And the weird change is the weirdest thing is though, 424 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.920 that you represent one of the last possible rational voices 425 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:29.200 to try and tell the upcoming generation that there is 426 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.400 not only like it would almost be like me saying, 427 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:36.400 in the time of talk radio, there was really just 428 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:41.039 Rush Limbaugh. Then that gave birth to Hannity, which now 429 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.720 gave birth to the Donald Trump movement. So that's all 430 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:51.839 talk radio ever was. That would be that superficial to 431 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.799 describe this as an all right thing. Alternative media was 432 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.119 not the matter of fact. If you really looked at 433 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:02.839 the landscapable alternative media from say, the early two thousands 434 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:09.559 all the way to twenty fifteen. Alex Jones was the exception, 435 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:15.480 because he seemed to be mad at everybody, and really 436 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.160 it was like, you guys are just like a bunch 437 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.119 of dirty hippies with microphones, Like you want us all 438 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.400 to open our minds? What's wrong with you? Like seriously, 439 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.359 That's how it was. I was literally perceived that way 440 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:35.640 when talking about doing a podcast in twenty ten. You 441 00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:37.519 know who's gonna do who, and nobody's ever gonna let 442 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.319 who wants to listen to you a podcast? That's pointless. 443 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:46.039 It's interesting how the perceptions change over time, and how 444 00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:50.440 I believe in some instances at least, that there's perceptions 445 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:54.160 of what the in group of the alternative is and 446 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:59.079 those who kind of come to define what the alternative 447 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.240 is and who it is, what and who it is, 448 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:10.519 how sometimes they lead the audience in that direction of 449 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.319 like this is what we are, this is who we are. 450 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.119 And it's interesting to see the changes you're saying in 451 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.119 that time, the mid two thousands, early two thousands, there's 452 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.240 a lot of the New Age sort of you know, 453 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.400 hippie adjacent love and light, that kind of stuff that 454 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:30.519 was replete in the in the conversation. And to me, 455 00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.839 I mean, I always go back to Red Ice Creations 456 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.839 because I think they're one of the exemplars of what 457 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.160 I'm talking about here, because they used to be like 458 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.519 the site where people would go on to talk about UFOs, 459 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.480 to talk about out of body experiences, to talk about, 460 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:55.519 you know, anything like that, any sort of like New Age, 461 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.880 the mysticism kind of stuff, all of that, you name it, 462 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.480 if it's like that, that was like the whole of 463 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:08.799 their podcast was that. Then slowly over time they brought 464 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:15.000 in more of the white nationalists, white genocide concept, neo 465 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.799 Nazis sort of talking points, and they went fully now 466 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.880 really that direction. So they if you look just at them, 467 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.039 it's like, oh, dang, yeah, it's it's at any given 468 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:31.000 point back in the two thousands, you look and somebody 469 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.440 who doesn't know is like, what's alternative media, What's what's 470 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.599 the conspiracy culture? Oh, it's weird to talk about aliens 471 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.759 and synchronisticism. 472 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.440 Okay, that's weird. Goofballs. 473 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.680 Oh they also think nine to eleven the story is 474 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.880 not real. They're they're truthers too, Okay, And you look 475 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:47.799 now and you look in the same place. Oh, they're 476 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:52.799 a bunch of white nationalists that are you know, that's 477 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:59.039 their deal, right, So there's there's obviously there's. 478 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:04.039 A lot going on, okay, And like in America, it's 479 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:10.359 almost like whatever group is you know, most stylistically anti 480 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.799 American or pro American, those are your two choices. And 481 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.400 this is the weird binary thing that happened here is 482 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.680 you had to be either like I have a militia 483 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.720 that I run in my state, or you had to 484 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.640 be a let's create to the crystals and the energy 485 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:35.519 on the earth will change. And this was your binary choice. 486 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:42.920 And everything has metastasized from this misconception. And I just 487 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.039 think it's remarkable because you're one of the few guys 488 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.240 who can still stop the digital buck burning on this 489 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.880 media history, because you know, the major networks, the big 490 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.400 money that's actually involved, that's actually controlling the platforms and 491 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.000 making it so that you know, on YouTube, you can't 492 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.480 even curse anymore, you know, you go above a certainly, Yeah, 493 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.839 you go above a certain amount of subscribers like you. 494 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.240 And and also there's unacceptable language in the algorithms. Now, 495 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:10.759 all of that. 496 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.079 Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's the new it's the new TV, 497 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.400 it's the new mainstream media. I've been saying this for 498 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.880 so long. Every people try to still fight that idea. 499 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.960 I think I don't know why clearly it is, but 500 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.720 you know whatever, and uh, I mean, at this point, 501 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.400 I hear what you're saying, Chuck Oh, at this point, 502 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.759 what one of the biggest things is. And if my 503 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.400 mission is to tell this story, which I would like 504 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.079 it to be, it's the story I want to tell. 505 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.440 It's a project I am working on and I want 506 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:49.160 to complete. But the uh, the challenge now is one 507 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.200 of the biggest ones among many is the medium itself. 508 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:58.000 And you know what it is, how it works. It 509 00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:02.400 is not set up in a way that is conducive 510 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:09.880 to people finding good, valuable material. It's run by algorithms. 511 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:15.759 The algorithm runs everything, and so that I mean, you've 512 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.400 got all these content creators coming in like you're referencing, 513 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:27.079 that are making horrible content, and it's content that's styled 514 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.960 under the guise of being informative, being historic. You know, 515 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.480 here's this documentary about the history of comedy, you know that, 516 00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:40.519 or any other given video like that. It's stylized and 517 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.960 presented as such, right, but the creator of the video 518 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.839 honestly could care less about presenting a history or presenting 519 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:56.319 interesting information. The main objective is pleasing the algorithm so 520 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.319 that their material gets maximum amount of view, brings back 521 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.440 more play to their channel, gets more people subscribing, builds 522 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.680 their online presence up so that they can do what 523 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.079 so they can make another video that does the same thing, 524 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:18.039 pleases the algorithm and gets more attention their way. The 525 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.640 whole time, the algorithm is also the same thing that's 526 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:27.400 feeding into this derivative material. As you're saying, like, there's 527 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.519 these secondary derivative videos that are made after the fact 528 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.279 from this first faulty video that somebody put out, not 529 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.000 really caring that it was actually accurate or not. That 530 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.599 was on the human end. Now you've got the AI 531 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:47.480 end pulling that and creating just an AI amalgamation of 532 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.440 all whatever happens to be on the Internet and happens 533 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.880 to be pleasing the algorithm and good content just for 534 00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.960 views sake. And so that's the direction everything is. But 535 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.880 that's how things are now, right, And this is the 536 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.440 last thing. Yeah, and this is the last thing. 537 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.079 I know, I interrupted your show much longer than I 538 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:10.880 wanted to, but you've gone back and forth with me, 539 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.359 and I'm grateful for it and I appreciate it. But 540 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.400 I think this is two things. In case you think 541 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.440 Aaron and I are just you know, meandering about and 542 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.759 you know, doing dry by observations here and just trying 543 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.200 to criss our grapes because neither one of us is 544 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.079 in the power power pod position that we could be 545 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.799 in or something like that. If you're an idiot who 546 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.279 thinks that, I want to explain to you how rig 547 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.920 the game is. And I'm going to give you two 548 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.799 massive predictions. And it's a funny thing that happened. You know, 549 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.319 CBS and you know, the Paramount Network and all that 550 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.640 is all being you know, turned into this thing which 551 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.160 is now being controlled by right wing tech bros. Right, 552 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.920 and yet they have just they have just released the 553 00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:04.440 most absolutely ridiculously, uh over the top, politically correct left 554 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:13.639 wing you know, virtue signaling version of Star Trek ever. Okay, 555 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.400 and you know what if somebody's gonna wait, a minute. 556 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.800 Which one are you talking about yet, probably the one 557 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.880 you didn't even pay attention to because they didn't even 558 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.440 properly promote it, and on episode three out of ten 559 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.400 they pulled the plug on season two already a designed 560 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.800 to fail Star Trek universe, driven by every kind of 561 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.559 PC thing imaginable. I mean literally, there's species that shouldn't exist. 562 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.159 There's space lesbians, there's a foot fetish thing going on, 563 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.239 there's you know, plants and empathy beating a war college. 564 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.199 I mean, it is absolutely ridiculous what you see on 565 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:54.920 this It is a PC potpoery of vomit coming out 566 00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:01.599 of the Star Trek universe to intentionally destroy. I assure 567 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.320 you that this, along with that Section thirty one movie, 568 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.239 which was the worst piece of Star Trek media that 569 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.320 I that I saw up until this, this is being 570 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.320 intentionally done by design. I'm going to give you a 571 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.639 preview of something though, that I see coming that I 572 00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:20.280 don't think everybody sees coming. Hulk Hogan is going to 573 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:29.519 become a massive rabbit hole of conspiracy theory. Okay, they're 574 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.519 going to ignore the actual business of things. They're going 575 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.599 to ignore the diabolical nonsense that he pulled. He's going 576 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.400 to be turned into a weird rabbit hole conspiracy theory 577 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:48.400 source posthumously. Okay, And I don't mean those initial you 578 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.960 know flurries of every time a celebrity dies, you know, oh, 579 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.360 well what happened? Maybe they give and then they go, 580 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.800 well it turns out he might have just noded. No, 581 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.000 this is going to get weird. Matter of fact, I 582 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:09.719 promise you. It's going to create a cottage industry. And 583 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.920 CBS is specifically paramount. Whatever that conglomeration is going to 584 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.360 become under one banner eventually, whether it's you know, General 585 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:25.199 Electric or Raytheon or something. Eventually. They are in the 586 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.239 PC demolition, the DEI demolition business. 587 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:29.760 Right now. 588 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.199 They are offering up sacrificial things, including one of the 589 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.239 longest standing franchises in media history, which is Star Trek, 590 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.159 in order to offer it up as a sacrificial lamb 591 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:50.599 to the failure of DEI. Now, why would tech pros 592 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:56.360 be so interested in producing garbage like that, especially right 593 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.320 wing tech bros who are friends with the Trumps. They 594 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.079 just put out the most PC ar Trek series in history. 595 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:08.960 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, uh dare I answer that 596 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.320 at least partially, Chuck is that the entire culture war 597 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.360 and the fight on woke has from the very beginning 598 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:28.360 been part of the whole point of the using right 599 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:39.800 wing alternative media to guide people forward for uh ulterior motives, 600 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:46.559 for political and business gain is and for the production 601 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:54.159 of Yes, propaganda is and so woke was. They had 602 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.000 to loudly proclaim woke as the enemy and like the 603 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.480 ultimate evil, and it's so bad. The whole time. It's 604 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:08.159 this weird, obscure, nebulous not really even defined. What's what? 605 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.119 What is woke? What does that mean? Who are the woke? 606 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.000 Like what at l G B t Q, what what 607 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:16.760 is that? Who are they? 608 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:18.440 What are they doing? 609 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:23.360 And it all gets folded into every conspiracy you've ever heard, 610 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.119 the QAnon thing, the Pizzagate stuff, that that all it's 611 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.119 that all gets folded in, And so you create this bizarre, 612 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.360 nebulous enemy uh that you keep alive and you keep 613 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:41.960 rehashing because it gets people interested at this endless question 614 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.960 of oh, like, what's at the bottom of this rabbit 615 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.239 hole idea. They're they're using that the logic of you know, 616 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.480 conspiracy culture that was always there. They're just taking that 617 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.960 and guiding it forward so that you never you never 618 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.400 understand what it is that they are actually doing. You 619 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:08.639 never understand that this whole ecosystem that once again I'm 620 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.599 trying to point out the medium, right, what the medium 621 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:19.639 is is this horrific digital machine that you know is 622 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.960 vaguely called it also it's vague in a similar way 623 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.119 to woke, Like what the hell is internet? 624 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.320 The hell even is this? Like you struggle even to. 625 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.199 Begin to explain what that is at this point in time. 626 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.320 But I mean it could you could be. It could 627 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.400 be done where you point out actual things. But that's 628 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.320 not the whole point here. The point is to just uh, 629 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:53.280 to obfuscate, to confuse, to make people forget memory hole everything. 630 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:59.840 And yes, continue to use the algorithm to run the 631 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.440 narratives forward to inform what narratives you're going to use, 632 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.119 because of course, the whole Cogan thing is going to 633 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.679 be used because all of the analytics tools that scour 634 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:16.440 the Internet is telling everybody that wrestling material is incredibly popular. 635 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.679 You'll get instant engagement by just talking about wrestling. Hull Cogan, 636 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:27.039 the most famous wrestler ever is gold Because first of all, 637 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.000 wrestling we already know that's big whole Cogan, he's the 638 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.199 most famous wrestler. And three, and this is even probably 639 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.679 more important, is that he's controversial in nature, and he's 640 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.639 hated and there's all these stories. You want to learn 641 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.360 about him in the same way that you want to 642 00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.639 learn what's at the bottom of Pizzagate, you want the 643 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.639 storm to come. It's all the same thing. So the 644 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:55.400 algorithm is instructing you and really has come to the 645 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.239 point where it's making the content for you, or it's 646 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.280 just taking everything and you know, it's drawing things from 647 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.280 the Pizzagate conspiracy, it's drawing things from q and on chatboards, 648 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.559 it's drawing things from wrestling podcasts, and it's putting them 649 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:16.320 all together and then it's reconstituting them into this new 650 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.280 media that's going to be incredibly popular. Yes, right, and 651 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.280 then a pre cultivating It's yeah, in. 652 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.119 A pre cultivated sense, because look, the WWEE right has 653 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.119 already turned around and merged with other organizations. It has 654 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.039 influenced directly in politics, as it always did. By the way, 655 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.320 if you look back in time, part of Vince McMahon's 656 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.519 rise as a corporate powerhouse was due to his political 657 00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.320 connections and if you don't believe me, go back and 658 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.719 check back when you know his wife was running for 659 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.119 office and then they decided we'll just buy somebody in 660 00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:53.199 office because we can't get her elected. I'm for real 661 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.559 on this. Look at how this guy beat a scandal 662 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:02.920 involving underage guys and and a ring announcer with a 663 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.719 foot fetish. I'm not kidding, by the way, uh that 664 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.960 that's been erased. They've literally turned around and digitally removed 665 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.199 him from footage and all kinds of stuff, you know, 666 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.360 because hid hide your skeletons, you know what I mean. 667 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.719 So the skeletons are here, and look at our upstanding reputation. 668 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.199 Now believe what we say. Here's the funniest part of 669 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.920 it all. And I hope that you're going to add 670 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:30.360 a feature on this history in your project. I'm so 671 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.039 interested to see this thing when it's all done, because 672 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.119 it's amazing. I want to help distribute it any which 673 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.079 way I can. I want to help people see it. 674 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:43.159 Please when it's complete, no matter what we are doing 675 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.519 at the time, please allow me to help you get 676 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:50.559 it seen by as many people as possible. Because here's the. 677 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.920 Thing that's that's probably the trick shock. That's that's the 678 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.119 million dollar question is how do you perform that in 679 00:42:58.199 --> 00:42:58.920 this world? Now? 680 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.880 I don't have the Well. 681 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.000 I've got a couple ideas for us. You know, we 682 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:04.840 were talking about it before we went to air tonight, 683 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:06.320 and we're going to talk about it some more in 684 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.639 the near future. By April, I have a plan. I 685 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.880 don't care if I'm laying on my back crippled. We're 686 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.760 going to get this done because time is running short 687 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.440 to where all the control mechanisms they're going to claim 688 00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:22.480 you got freedom of speech and you don't because it's 689 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.920 worse than the FCC what the YouTube is doing to you. 690 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.920 That's the biggest platform rumble exists at this time. But 691 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.079 I'm warning you somebody's planning on either curtailing or taking 692 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.400 that out. But here's the last morning I have for you, 693 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.039 and that is that we have already lost a lot 694 00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:45.639 of information because of the superficial nature and the directed 695 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.960 nature of it. And I hope very much that you're 696 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.840 going to take time to go over that white paper 697 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:56.280 by cast Sunstein, because this is proof also that this 698 00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:01.480 left right delusion is just that Cass Sunstein worked in 699 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.599 the Obama White House. You know, the liberal that almost 700 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.440 destroyed America before Joe Biden showed up for one term 701 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:11.679 and you know, slip walked through it. That liberal who, 702 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.239 by the way, was going to turn us all into 703 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.599 Sharia law, was never going to leave office. According to 704 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.679 the right wing, was literally the Antichrist. Every other day, 705 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.239 I had somebody sending me stuff about biblical proof that 706 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.000 Obama's the Antichrist. I'm not kidding. 707 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.800 Yeah, no, I know you're not. I've seen the same stuff. 708 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.480 They had it whipped into such a fervor, and that's 709 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.440 actually how the takeover revolt media happened because the anger 710 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:39.079 at that's an Obamacare and he's a Muslim and he's 711 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.360 not really and the whole Birther thing all of that, which, 712 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.920 by the way, hey who was the biggest supporter of that? 713 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:51.960 Okay, anyhow, Yeah, Obama was a major pivot point, absolutely right. Yeah. 714 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:56.000 The perfect was sold to you by you know, marketeers, 715 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.239 people who didn't even have social media but kind of 716 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.920 utilized social media of its day to sell this guy 717 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:07.760 as literally Superman by the way, like literally he did 718 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.719 a campaign commercial at that time going I'm from Krypton 719 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.559 and pulling open his shirt to show you a Superman 720 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.880 logo with an O on it for Obama. Not kidding 721 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.119 that actually happened. 722 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.199 Okay, yeah, you can look at that thing from any 723 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.840 which direction. But absolutely the Obama era was when the 724 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:33.119 mainstreaming of conspiracy culture really happened. It is when they 725 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:37.519 really began mainstreaming the thing to become maga, the maga 726 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:38.639 that we know today. 727 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.639 That's when it became. And the first step of that 728 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.840 experiment was the Tea Party. Because previous to that, what 729 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.960 were you, Oh, you're a conspiracy kook? You mentioned JFK 730 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.960 because I'm studying it from eighty eight, right, what was 731 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.119 the standardized response, the one that the CIA taught you, 732 00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.079 which was this, Oh you believe in JFK, you must 733 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.119 believe in little green men aliens? Right third to third. 734 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.719 That's what they would do to us, because that was 735 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.280 the standard response literally written out, by the way, in 736 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:13.079 declassified documents from the CIA about ready for this. What 737 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:14.960 is it about? Aaron? Do you know what it's about? 738 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.400 Because you probably heard me say this before. 739 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.960 Wait, we're talking about the CIA document on how to 740 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:24.599 deal with conspiracy Theory. 741 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:28.400 Yes, I don't have it. 742 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:28.960 What is it? 743 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.719 Okay? It was declassified by the JFK Records Collection Act, 744 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.800 and idiots like me crying about we want to see 745 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.760 this record because we knew it existed. It was issued 746 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.760 in nineteen sixty four, the end of the year, in 747 00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:46.679 nineteen sixty four. Know why, because they were anticipating ready 748 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.480 Warren Commission critics, people that were going to criticize the 749 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.159 Warren Commission's investigation. Now it was released in nineteen sixty four, 750 00:46:56.639 --> 00:47:00.679 it was expounded upon in nineteen sixty five and sixty six. 751 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.079 This documentation, this is how we need to instruct our 752 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:06.800 media assets as to how to deal with these conspiracy theorists. 753 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.199 They literally coined. 754 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.360 The term yep, that's right. 755 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.199 And here's the other thing that they were. What were 756 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:19.400 they going after at that time, people criticizing the Warren Commission, which, 757 00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.320 by the way, that's not its proper name. It's actually 758 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.360 the President's Commission on the Assassination of the John F. 759 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:25.800 Kennedy. 760 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:28.920 Earl Warren was the head of it, but it was 761 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:33.719 not technically called the Warren Commission anyway. Back to it, 762 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.239 though this was done ready. The first mention of this 763 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.480 is in nineteen sixty four, the summer of nineteen sixty four. 764 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.559 When was the Warren Commission released? Without looking it up 765 00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.519 on your phone or asking Siri air, do you know. 766 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.599 After summer of sixty four, I'm sure. 767 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:57.280 September of sixty four. So what you're telling me is 768 00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.320 the CIA was giving instructions to its media assets before 769 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.559 the Warren Commission was even released on how to deal 770 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:11.519 with ready Warren Commission critics. So my point is, take 771 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:17.079 a look at cass Sunstein's white paper. Yeah, you are. 772 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.880 Going to cover this right, well, you might be making 773 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:25.000 the most important point of all, Chuck, is that conspiracy theory, 774 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:29.119 conspiracy culture, whatever this is, and it was labeled that 775 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:34.920 by the CIA. The point is is that it's legitimate 776 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.880 and that it is a danger to the establishment, which 777 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.880 is seeking to cover up some untoward things that are 778 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:51.960 being done. So there is a legitimacy in going after 779 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:56.159 these doing actual investigation, working hard to find what actual 780 00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.119 truth is where you can, when you can, and like 781 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.800 you know, doing the actual work to do that, not 782 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.519 letting the algorithm do it. So there is a very 783 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:14.079 intense legitimacy to this. At the same time that the 784 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:18.280 very suspects that would come up in this sort of 785 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:24.639 investigation are the ones who are finding ways to weaponize 786 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.000 it the other direction, to get it to be like 787 00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.159 you know that illustration of the gun that's playing back 788 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:35.000 at the person holding it right, so, and that's absolutely 789 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:41.000 what has been done. And it's just it's just wild 790 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.239 to look at this from so many different directions. 791 00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.679 I mean, think about the craziness of this. It was 792 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.840 really left wing nuts that were screaming that JFK. Junior 793 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.079 was probably murdered, right, sure, So what did they do 794 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.519 with that that was now hijacked by right wingers who said, 795 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.679 actually he faked his death. In other words, you can 796 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.880 just double down on something that has a plausible, grassroots 797 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.880 reality and weaponize it in a different direction. And if 798 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.360 you read that stuff by Cas Sunstein, you see the 799 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.920 blueprint for what was going to come in twenty fifteen. 800 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.880 I mean, my point is that they had it well ahead. 801 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.000 You know, they did the Warren commission thing. Hey, let's 802 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:27.719 get on this Warren commission thing before we even have 803 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.159 a Warren commission, you know. 804 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:33.920 Published. I mean sad, the worst part of all this 805 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.360 and the part that frankly, I don't know what to 806 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:41.480 do to do moving forward, to even make this or 807 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:45.199 put it out or do any of this is that 808 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.840 we're dealing with the situation where once again the medium 809 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.639 is in control, the machine is in control, the algorithm 810 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:59.039 is controlling everything. It's automating this whole machine, which has 811 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.960 become a prompt baganda machine unto itself, using all of 812 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.880 the logic of conspiracy culture, the logic taken from a 813 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:11.440 movement that was meant to be investigatory to find hidden 814 00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:19.519 truths about very sordid activities from within, you know, the 815 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:23.679 hidden layers of the establishment, and what was meant to 816 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:31.079 be serious investigation has devolved into nothing more than just 817 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.280 stupid entertainment media that not only does it not need 818 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:42.039 to be truthful or informative or useful in any sort 819 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:46.280 of nonfiction kind of way whatsoever. It only has to 820 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.239 be entertaining. It only has to get people's attention. It 821 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.480 only has to get people reactionary and emotional and mad 822 00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:58.079 at each other. And most importantly, you can use it 823 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.800 for your propaganda purpose. This is oddly enough that people 824 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.920 are still missing. This point is that this whole thing 825 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.480 has been weaponized in so many different ways, and it's 826 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:19.840 been used for very real political, geopolitical, economic purposes, and 827 00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:24.000 frankly I think it's being used to purposely destroy the 828 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.320 country of the United States of America. Funny enough, I 829 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.880 think it's being used weaponized to do that for once 830 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:40.880 again geopolitical and business purposes. And yeah, frankly, I don't know. 831 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.159 I don't know how to even go about doing any 832 00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.400 of this because it's their world. 833 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:47.599 This is their world. 834 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.400 This whole time that I've been doing this. One of 835 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.840 the things that has never set well in me is 836 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:56.440 like the big voices would be they would make light 837 00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.400 of how these digital platforms and so many things on 838 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.320 the Internet, like let's just say Google are problematic because 839 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.239 they epitomize the establishment that. 840 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:08.599 We should be fighting against. 841 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.440 They would say that, they would bring that out, but 842 00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:12.960 then they would go, well, we have to fight on 843 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.440 their platforms because that's where the war is, and they 844 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.679 would just keep saying that sort of thing, never pointing 845 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:23.360 out the real issues of you know, that it's their world. 846 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.119 What do we do about that, and what are we 847 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.719 doing now that we're quote unquote fighting there or whatever 848 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:32.519 in this information Where are we ever really addressing that? No, never, really, 849 00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.760 never was any concerted effort put toward that. And now 850 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:43.000 we're at a point where their systems are frankly more 851 00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:47.000 and more powerful every day. You can't get a word 852 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.480 in edgewise. You won't, you can't. There's no competing, there's 853 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:56.079 no fighting back against it. It is the whole of 854 00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:56.639 this thing. 855 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:01.519 So I mean, I my only thing is well, really, 856 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.239 we're down to like the last five minutes of your 857 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:04.960 show here, and I did not mean to take up 858 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.960 all this time. But I'm hoping that I'm inspiring thought. 859 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:10.320 And I hope I didn't ruin your night. 860 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.960 No, no, no, no, it's of course it inspires me. 861 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:18.679 I mean, chuck this, I'm I've been I don't know. 862 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.159 Look, here's the thing. I'm hearing you, okay, I'm hearing 863 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:26.599 you verbalize wrestling with this piece of content you're creating, 864 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:28.480 and you. 865 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.360 Are an excellent that among among other things. 866 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.920 Yes, I'm certain listen, I'm not going to psychoanalyze you, 867 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.239 but I'm certain that there are personal issues, there are 868 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.079 other conflicts, there are other things that you're probably being 869 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.800 pressured on one way or another because you know what, 870 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.280 you live in America. You're married, and there's other people 871 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.599 in your house, so you know, good luck that you're 872 00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:53.360 going to remain sane. But The thing is, it's just 873 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.280 and and that's with all due love and respect to everybody, 874 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.960 the whole Franz clan, Franz fans, everybody. But you're gonna 875 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.320 make this guy crazy. Eventually, that might happen, although I'll 876 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.079 be I'll be way onto the funny farm long before 877 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.800 he gets there. But don't worry about that now. The 878 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.920 thing is this, I think that it would be a 879 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:17.679 serious contribution if. 880 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.199 You took a a a an. 881 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:24.079 Analysis at least part of your time to literally display 882 00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:28.440 the cast excuse me, the cast sunsteam white paper, okay, 883 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:34.920 and show you know, first of all, show people the 884 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.880 context of it when it was done, who it was 885 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.440 done for, seriously, all of that, the organ what resources 886 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.639 they used, and then show them the strategies that now 887 00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:54.440 look eerily like events guess what later on because you 888 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.840 know that that old Oh, the illuminati always has to 889 00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.280 you know, the old trope, right, they have to tell 890 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.159 you before they do it to you, even if they're 891 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.039 going to kill you. Uh, yes, and no, that is 892 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:11.039 an esoteric thing though, that is an esoteric reality in 893 00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:17.480 many many pagan systems. Uh that. Yeah, you have to 894 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.079 be open about what it is you're trying to do 895 00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:20.199 to somebody. 896 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:25.639 Uh yeah, but anyway back to it, that makes me 897 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.000 think a little bit of the Burning Man movie, and 898 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.840 there's there's so much that's such a good movie on 899 00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:35.400 so many levels. But yeah, you know, as well. 900 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.199 Even if you go back to Woodstock ninety nine, Okay, 901 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.920 the fact that they took the peace in love, you know, 902 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.800 disastrous concert on the farm and then turned it into 903 00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:47.599 you know, violent depravity and overgrown capitalism and madness, and. 904 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.360 Yes, yeah, they completely inverted the idea of what Woodstock was. 905 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:52.719 Right. 906 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.800 It was a total inversion. Very interesting, right. 907 00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.440 What I'm pointing to is that anything that does create 908 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.280 a success testful accident out there and is legitimate media 909 00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:07.639 and is legitimate history or anything else, is facing two things. 910 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:12.800 The counter myth. Okay, even to myths, there will be 911 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:15.760 a counter myth to realities, there will be a counter 912 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.199 reality and an erasure which I call the digital book 913 00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.519 burning that is going to occur here, that is going 914 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.840 to erase the history, reshape it and tell you, look, 915 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.159 this is the way it always was. This is this 916 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:29.960 makes perfect sense. They're going to make sense of the 917 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.719 control mechanisms, and that's what they've done. And I'm just 918 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:34.719 saying that you're probably one of the last people that's 919 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.960 going to take the opportunity to enter something else in there. 920 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.840 And if it's done correctly, and if enough other people 921 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:46.000 echo it, guess what we get to do? Maybe give 922 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.519 them enough trouble to slow them down for a little while. 923 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.599 You know, like you got to go to Rumble. Get 924 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.119 off of YouTube and go to Rumble. Sorry, that's what 925 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.360 you got to do. And by the way, screw you YouTube, 926 00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.039 even if you wind up listening to this show, because 927 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.480 here's the thing. YouTube is running Rumble commercials right now. 928 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.840 That's how corporatized they are. They literally run a commercial 929 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.360 where it's like, hey, YouTube controls what you say, Yeah, 930 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.480 but I don't because I'm Rumble. Oh you know s word. 931 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.960 Oh crap, I'm still on YouTube. That's why I'm not 932 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.079 allowed to speak freely. You need to come over to Rumble. 933 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:18.079 Guess what. 934 00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:24.239 Rumble will collapse into the same hellscape that YouTube did. 935 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.639 It'll be done under a different pretense and under a 936 00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:34.159 different corporate banner, but your freedom is gone. Only truly 937 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:39.920 independent creators will create independent media. Go find them. You're 938 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.000 listening to two of them talk right now. We do 939 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:47.559 what we want. I have never have I ever given 940 00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:52.079 you any instruction as to your content as far as 941 00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:53.519 what you put out on my network, And I don't 942 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:54.760 care if you want to go a few minutes over 943 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:56.960 or whatever else, and we'll give uncle all it's time. 944 00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.360 Have I ever given you any instruction and as to 945 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:01.800 your content on this network? 946 00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:04.440 No, no, not at all. 947 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.679 Not to your language, not to your content, not to 948 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:09.239 your guests, nothing. 949 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:11.280 Am I right? I mean to call me a liar? 950 00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:11.599 Please? 951 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:14.719 Yeah? No, no, no, that's absolutely true. 952 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:15.000 Yeah. 953 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.440 And that's why I'm here, Chuck, because I know that 954 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.000 this is an outlier place that I can say what 955 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.840 I want. It doesn't mean anybody will want to listen 956 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:27.920 to it, but I can say what I want. I 957 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:33.719 can talk about things that aren't popular because you know, 958 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:37.000 other places you have to, in one way, shape or form, 959 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:40.320 fall into line whatever that line happens to be. At 960 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:44.800 any particular place, it hardly even matters. But they always 961 00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.639 have some talking points that they're interested in. 962 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.639 Right, and with the millions of people that we should 963 00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.920 have access to to offer our independent creations to. Because 964 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.440 that was the greatness of the Internet is that you 965 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.000 know what if I put up a sign, if I 966 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:03.000 put up a picture, I put out a word. Everyone 967 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:05.400 on the planet has the ability to access it, or 968 01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.480 at least the people that have access to the Internet, 969 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.840 which was you know, a third of this of you 970 01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:14.639 know civilization, right, one third of civilization has access to 971 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.159 this Internet or one half or whatever whatever the given 972 01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.800 you know, calculation is at the time at its height. 973 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.400 But let me ask you this, other people that are 974 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.400 made by these algorithms instantaneously so that they can get 975 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.400 you know, a fraction of a penny per view and 976 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:36.920 actually make a living because there's so well exposed at 977 01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.400 the height. And I do mean the absolute height of 978 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.480 your listenership. What is the highest number you ever saw 979 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.719 for your listenership that's in your mind? 980 01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:53.960 I mean the way I view it is. I peaked 981 01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:58.559 at the beginning, and it's it's only gone down from 982 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.039 the views I got from the Age of Transitions video 983 01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:05.880 was the best I ever did, Okay, but with the podcast, 984 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:10.079 it kind of I kind of went up to a 985 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:16.920 peak where me and some of our friends were making 986 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.320 content together and we are doing pretty good, and people 987 01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.360 knew who we were, and we were out there and 988 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.679 the voice was out there, and it was it was 989 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.320 getting distributed and people were finding it. 990 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.079 Okay, so let me let me just qualify my question 991 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.280 one more time, and I'm going to end on this note, 992 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:34.760 and then we'll just end your hour. I'm sorry, but 993 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.679 this is an important point. What was the highest one 994 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:43.440 time bang number you saw for viewership downloads, whatever it 995 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.440 is you want to calculate for any piece of content 996 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.280 you made. I don't care if you know you had 997 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.639 some freak thing go on and a million people shared 998 01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:54.280 your ex freaking post, whatever it is. Tell me your 999 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.239 largest audience exposure for a singular thing, and then tell 1000 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.280 me even a temporary can consistency as far as audience 1001 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.559 size would be for the greatest thing ever in your 1002 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:11.239 content creation history, which is now well over a decade. 1003 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:16.760 Because you were in this before me, upfront, as a host, 1004 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.679 as a voice, as a creator, you were in here 1005 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:24.239 before me. A lot of people don't know that, but 1006 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.719 that's true. Yeah, I was helping creators. I might have 1007 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.280 been helping creators while Aaron was creating, and then I 1008 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.760 joined him a couple of years later. I've got thirteen 1009 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:35.800 years in you've got more than me. You've got at 1010 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.880 least fifteen, I would say minimum. 1011 01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.639 Yeah, I started. I started really getting out there in 1012 01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.679 two thousand and eight with the age of transitions video, okay, 1013 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:48.599 and that was for in terms of views, that was it. Okay, 1014 01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:52.000 technically speaking, it's an interesting it's an interesting story with 1015 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.320 that because I put it out initially on Google Video, 1016 01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.880 which was concurrent to the like original YouTube that was 1017 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:02.239 separate from Google. 1018 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.360 Right, and I put stuff. I put stuff on YouTube 1019 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:07.679 and daily Motion at the same time in two thousand 1020 01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.519 and eight. No joke. But I was just the blind 1021 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.760 JFK researcher guy telling you about which JFK books to 1022 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.920 read and busting a couple of myths. And that's all 1023 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.519 I did on my little videos, which were short. They 1024 01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:24.280 were two minutes, five minutes, twelve minutes, thirty minutes. And 1025 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:26.960 I would do you know, here's a five books by 1026 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.440 the same author, this is the best one. Whatever. That's 1027 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.320 what I was doing. That's what you were doing two 1028 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.280 thousand and eight. So if we were to stretch our 1029 01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:39.119 entire existence, it's eighteen years, okay, both of us, almost 1030 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:42.519 eighteen years in what's the highest number for a single 1031 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.679 piece of content, And then also for a semi even 1032 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.280 if it was a week long you had a peak 1033 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.400 of listeners. Whatever hit me with it, or you had 1034 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:52.199 a couple of shows in a row that were just big, 1035 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.719 or you even had a one time huge hit on 1036 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.000 an audience, but it was like part of your podcast, 1037 01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.679 and you could see that it affected you afterwards, it 1038 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:05.679 raised you up. What's your biggest possible numbers in eighteen years? 1039 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:09.440 I think I'll pointed two separate things. The first one 1040 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.840 is once again the age of transitions video Google Video. 1041 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.679 I uploaded it two thousand and eight. It had a 1042 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.519 view counter that I could see as the creator, and 1043 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:22.519 I put it on there and it started exponentially climbing. 1044 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:25.400 It was getting hundreds of thousands of views. It got 1045 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.320 up to a point where it was just under a 1046 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.719 million views, and then something happened that people were complaining 1047 01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.599 about at the time, where the counter essentially stopped working. 1048 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.960 It was it was like real close to a million, 1049 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.519 and then the counter I can never really trust it again. 1050 01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:45.480 I'm like, which that right there speaks to the essence 1051 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.760 of the problem that exists is very day, is that 1052 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:53.920 you cannot trust these platforms to give you any real 1053 01:04:54.280 --> 01:05:00.599 accurate information, or you cannot put your trust in them whatsoever. 1054 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.800 No I crack up. These people kick and scream on 1055 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:06.960 their podcasts, the popular podcast guys, they kick and scream. 1056 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:08.599 We're going to take a very short break before we 1057 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.719 go to Uncle. But the thing is they kick and 1058 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.079 scream and tell you we know all of our algorithm, 1059 01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.079 we know how many people are seeing it. They know, 1060 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.079 they act like all those numbers are legitimate. 1061 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:23.760 They know nothing, nothing, they know nothing exactly wise to 1062 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.320 they would be wise to say as much. 1063 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:27.119 But at your. 1064 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:27.920 Peak to do that. 1065 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.400 But at your peak, don't give me a general wait wait, wait, Aaron, 1066 01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:32.880 don't give me a general number though you're dancing around it. 1067 01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:34.960 I want to know what the highest count you ever 1068 01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:35.480 saw was. 1069 01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:39.440 Okay, I think it was like eight hundred and seventy 1070 01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.440 thousand on the Age of Transitions video. And this was 1071 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.440 it was climbing on hundreds of thousands of views, like 1072 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.440 in just a couple of days time, and then it 1073 01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.320 essentially froze at like eight seventy five or something. Yep, 1074 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:54.159 and then I can never trust it again. Okay, As 1075 01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:57.320 I'm saying, like, you cannot trust these platforms, and I 1076 01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:01.599 sure is I don't trust them back then, And as 1077 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.440 we're saying it was better back then, and it was 1078 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:09.920 a better there's more opportunity to put things out and 1079 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:13.960 be seen then, but it was still horrendous. But it's 1080 01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:16.320 way way worse now. 1081 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:18.199 And by the way, unless you want to pay I 1082 01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:20.119 don't even know now. Back in the day, we used 1083 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.360 to be able to pay Alexa like forty dollars a 1084 01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.480 month to give us accurate around the internet collections of 1085 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:30.039 our numbers, our Internet searches, our website counts, all that stuff, 1086 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.199 and they were accurate. They disbanded that company and now 1087 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.519 the only thing available to do the same thing cost 1088 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:39.840 you five hundred dollars a month, Okay, no joke. 1089 01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:45.119 The other the one other, like peak I had in. 1090 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.800 My besides that your yeah, okay, so that's your one 1091 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.880 time hit. What's your audience collective? Yeah? 1092 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:53.639 That was. That was one of these two things I'll 1093 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:56.360 point to is like my biggest success stories. The other 1094 01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:01.280 involves revolved Man Scientific Rise to Godhood my book paperback format. 1095 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:07.280 James Corbett, who wrote the forward to that book, mentioned 1096 01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:11.000 the book on his show once and I got a 1097 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.679 set of sales that I've never gotten that may sales 1098 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.880 other than that time. The sales neared one thousand dollars 1099 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.639 within a month of sales of the book. 1100 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:24.000 That's the best I've ever done. 1101 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:25.679 How many books does that represent? 1102 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.119 That's I believe it's changed over time. I believe at 1103 01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:38.559 that time if you look at like ten twelve dollars 1104 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:39.440 would be one book. 1105 01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:41.760 So you know, okay, something like that. 1106 01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.039 So let's just say one hundred those are the two. 1107 01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.320 Let's just say one hundred books got sold in a 1108 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:50.360 short period of time and you went, that's great. 1109 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:54.199 Wow, Yeah, that was really good. And it was thanks 1110 01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.280 to James. I got to give credit where it's due. 1111 01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:00.400 No, because Corbett. Yeah, Corbett before they crunched him, and 1112 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.360 they have now crunched him. They have limited his access. 1113 01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:08.320 He still has a massive audience, but they've limited his access. 1114 01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:10.920 But here's the thing. He turned around and did this 1115 01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.320 weird idea where he's going to charge people a dollar 1116 01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.840 a month and you know what, pay me a dollar 1117 01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.800 and I'll make you a full fledged member of my website. Right, 1118 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:27.319 And he said that he would do this full time 1119 01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:29.479 if he got to one thousand dollars. This is a 1120 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:33.000 true story. If a thousand people sign up at a 1121 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:39.479 dollar apiece, I will quit my job dollar monthly. Not 1122 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:43.039 long after he quit his job and to this day 1123 01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:47.119 is still doing it. He's surviving on the direct interaction 1124 01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:49.199 with people, which they have now added all sorts of 1125 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.159 levels to even if you go to Patreon. You don't 1126 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.039 really get that whole dollar when you go to Patreon. 1127 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:54.239 You know that. 1128 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.279 Brutal. But anyway, so what you're telling me is, but 1129 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.159 what would you say you're consistent like broadcast? You know, 1130 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:06.399 podcast audience highest level was also because you also had 1131 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.399 a book. I should have asked about the book as well, 1132 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.359 But what was your consistent podcast broadcast? 1133 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:17.399 You know, the numbers have always been low on the podcast, 1134 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:18.720 the numbers have been low. 1135 01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:20.920 But what are we talking like height. 1136 01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:26.720 Height, a couple hundred, couple thousand, I don't know if 1137 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.439 that's even the word I'd even use to describe it. 1138 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:36.159 Maybe what were we talking about a month? Maybe it's 1139 01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:39.119 always been under a thousand downloads per month? 1140 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.640 Okay, podcast always? And that is insane. That never, that 1141 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.840 is insane for somebody that guaranteed got a million views 1142 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.319 on his documentary, guaranteed sold you know, hundreds of books. 1143 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.840 It makes no sense that you have under a thousand 1144 01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:58.720 people listening to this podcast zero and at one point. 1145 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:02.520 No it makes sense because I don't play the game 1146 01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:04.800 of feeding the algorithm of what it wants. And that's 1147 01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:07.000 the whole point of this. No, no, no, the whole point. 1148 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:07.920 But here's the thing. 1149 01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:10.520 It's not just not that you're not playing the game. 1150 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:13.680 You're not playing today's game, but at one point you 1151 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:15.880 were kind of playing the game because we were all 1152 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.359 trying to promote ourselves with the seemingly readily available stuff 1153 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.520 for everybody, which is why you have a Twitter account. 1154 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:27.000 Okay, yeah, yeah, and I got to that really late, 1155 01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:27.880 too too late, But. 1156 01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.720 So did I. I went to Twitter late because you 1157 01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.039 know what, Facebook. 1158 01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:32.199 Was fine for me. 1159 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:36.159 And I'll tell you the truth. My podcast audience. The 1160 01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:41.000 reason why I'm so frustrated is because my broadcast podcast audience. 1161 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:44.560 There's a reason why I dedicated myself to it because 1162 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:47.800 at one point, even though the money wasn't there and 1163 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:51.640 there was no approaches that were proper from anybody that 1164 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:55.359 wanted to sponsor. Here's the thing, I only dwarf you 1165 01:10:55.439 --> 01:11:02.479 in one spot. My podcast listening audience was somewhere between 1166 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:03.600 eighty and one hundred thousand. 1167 01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:08.239 Well that's awesome, Yeah, well yeah, that's good. 1168 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:13.279 You know what it is now. 1169 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.520 I'll bet you're right within my ranks, Chuck, welcome to 1170 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:16.119 the bottom. 1171 01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:20.640 We are both under two thousand downloads. Yeah, we're both 1172 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.479 under two thousand. So my point is that I am at, 1173 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:28.319 you know, nearly two percent of what it was that 1174 01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:32.920 I was at. So I ruined my own audience down 1175 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.680 ninety eight percent. And I'm telling you, these were numbers 1176 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.399 that they couldn't control because they were coming in from 1177 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:41.920 various sources. But with the Google squash that destroyed me 1178 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.680 took way like half of it. Tell uncle, we're going 1179 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:45.920 to get to him. He's going to get his full 1180 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.119 time in just a minute. But this is an important conversation. 1181 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.199 And we started late. Okay. So I had one hundred 1182 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.720 thousand there. The highest video I ever got viewed was 1183 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.159 again in that range. It was commensurate with that number, 1184 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.960 about one hundre thousand, okay. And I never had more 1185 01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.640 than five thousand subscribers on my YouTube channel because even 1186 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:07.439 though I was gaining more than one hundred of them 1187 01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:11.159 a month, I could never break the five thousand subscribers ceiling. 1188 01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.560 It stopped counting my subscribers. It not only stopped counting, 1189 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.159 not only stop counting my subscribers. But literally I watched 1190 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.199 three people watch a video and still had a zero 1191 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:23.840 on my counter. 1192 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:29.359 Okay, yep, yep, that's the that's just another version of 1193 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:30.880 the exact same thing it was doing to me. 1194 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:31.399 Back in two. 1195 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.439 But there is the point, they've always been doing the 1196 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:35.119 same thing. 1197 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.119 Because if you are not ready for this, if you 1198 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:46.039 are not actually blessed by the corporate algorithms, if you're 1199 01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:52.199 not positioned and allowed to succeed, you do not. And 1200 01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:54.319 it doesn't matter. I could give you the secrets to 1201 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:59.600 the universe and no one will hear it because we 1202 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:03.159 are fed to only the organic engagement that we can 1203 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:10.720 actually gain ourselves. And that was the endgame of what 1204 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:17.399 Cas Sinstein was talking about about infiltrating, about redirecting, about weaponizing, 1205 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:21.520 controlling opposition, and everything else in conspiracy culture. The only 1206 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.640 one thing you have to do is understand that that 1207 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.960 was more of a blanket term at that time, and 1208 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.840 it was meant to control guess what, the same thing, 1209 01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.520 like I showed you with the nineteen sixty four issue, 1210 01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:36.119 the warrant commissioned critics. So if you're a critic, you're 1211 01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:41.720 not going to succeed, And it's just that simple money 1212 01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:45.319 and opportunities were offered to me if I only supported Trump? 1213 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.640 Why because I was on my way to that one 1214 01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:52.319 hundred thousand and one hundred thousand podcast listeners represented a 1215 01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:56.000 threat if you had an engagement. This is why people 1216 01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.920 did weird things to me, you know. And I didn't 1217 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.119 and realized that I was at that height. And oh, 1218 01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:05.720 by the way, try and find the history of how 1219 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.239 many people followed you at your height where you think 1220 01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:12.520 your numbers should be, Try and prove it to somebody. Now, 1221 01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.680 unless you saved some screen grabs from you know, ten 1222 01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:20.560 years ago, guess what erin? You don't exist, just like 1223 01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:22.960 I said. Google didn't realize that. Google said that I 1224 01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:25.359 claimed that I did five things that I know I did, 1225 01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:27.640 and then I had to republish podcasts to get the 1226 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.760 algorithm to change me from being somebody who crazily claims 1227 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:33.159 things to actually having done them. 1228 01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:37.479 Well, now you're actually circling around to the good aspect 1229 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:42.680 of this is the desire to not want to be remembered. Frankly, 1230 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:46.039 I don't think I want to be within this realm, 1231 01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:47.920 the cesspool that it's become. 1232 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:49.840 I don't want to be associated with so. 1233 01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:54.359 Many different things, So that part of it is good, Okay, 1234 01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:58.319 remembered with this clan of losers. 1235 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.079 Well, that's good because I don't the AI want to 1236 01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.720 be well because the AI not only you know, it 1237 01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.960 also doesn't recognize the fact that I ever produced anybody's podcast. 1238 01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:10.399 By the way, So just saying, you know, even though 1239 01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:13.479 you know, what about a dozen others that I that 1240 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.039 I did. You know, Christy Aphrodity, Jack Blood, Pierce Redman, 1241 01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:21.520 Dylan Wade, your show, the Uncle Show. Uh, you know, 1242 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:26.239 I could keep going here, Rebel Radio. I produced all 1243 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:30.520 these shows, Chris Graves show, uh, the I'm Looking Through 1244 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:35.159 You with Bob Wilson show, right, the the Don Jeffrey Show. 1245 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:37.199 I was the guy who said just call it the 1246 01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:39.720 Don Jeffrey Show. It's now over on another you know thing. 1247 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:46.119 But yeah, yeah, But I'm just saying, if you take 1248 01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:47.640 a look at what's happened to you and me, and 1249 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.239 you take a look at that Cass Sunstein white paper, 1250 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:54.520 it's not necessarily about you and me and being remembered 1251 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.800 and who gives a crap? Right, But wouldn't it be 1252 01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:02.439 nice if we could enter some accurate oppositional information into 1253 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.800 the matrix and have it stick like, do you have 1254 01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:06.760 a Wikipedia page? 1255 01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:08.640 Even? No? 1256 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:13.119 Will you damn well deserved one? You damn well deserved one. No, 1257 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:17.159 You're an author, a broadcaster, content creator for over a decade. 1258 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.600 You don't have a Wikipedia page. I bet you. The 1259 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.560 next snot nosed scumbag who comes up with a song 1260 01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:27.319 that's about pop pop tomorrow in my backseat whatever that means. 1261 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.039 The next idiot on YouTube does that is gonna have 1262 01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.319 a Wikipedia page in thirty six hours. You work for 1263 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.840 over fifteen years, and as I said earlier, eighteen years, 1264 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:41.800 and you don't have a Wikipedia page. Whether you want 1265 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.079 to be remembered or not, you should be. That's all 1266 01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:46.119 I'm saying. Now I'm gonna shut up and let's get 1267 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:47.920 on with the Uncle Show. And now we're gonna go 1268 01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:50.439 a half hour late on the live broadcast if Uncle 1269 01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:54.760 wants to do it, all right, anyway, eron. I'm sorry, 1270 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.880 but this I think was necessary, and I hope, I 1271 01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:00.800 hope I've given you something to consider with this, because 1272 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:04.880 I think this project could be revolutionary if we can 1273 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:05.640 get it to people. 1274 01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:07.640 Yeah. 1275 01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:10.039 Really, I'm serious, dude. 1276 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.520 I'm just telling you. I know I well that that's 1277 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.319 on on on the positive side of the whole thing. 1278 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.039 It's something that I do feel strongly about, something that 1279 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:22.319 is really it's inspiring to me in the same way 1280 01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:24.399 that I was inspired to make the Age of Transitions 1281 01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:28.319 video right in that I know it's I know how 1282 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:31.119 important it is, I know how overlooked it is, I 1283 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:35.720 know how off the radar it is. That's the stuff 1284 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.920 that interests me. Is this off the radar, super important 1285 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:44.279 information that just nobody even knows it's there. That's what 1286 01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.960 That's what inspires me. And I know that's what this is. 1287 01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:50.520 I also know that I have a fair amount of 1288 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.359 good information already. I add in genuine research, like you're saying, 1289 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.720 to Cast Sunstein paper, and I center a lot of 1290 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.760 the work around that that rounds it in reality that 1291 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:05.960 cannot be denied. And so yeah, so it's it's it's 1292 01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:07.399 an inspiring thing. 1293 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.079 And it's also going to be and it's also going 1294 01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:12.960 to prognosticate things to come. I'm telling you, because it's 1295 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:16.479 not done. All of the Cast Sunstein agenda is not 1296 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:21.159 to its absolute you know, final solution, and yeah, there's 1297 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:23.840 more than one of those too. So anyway, I leave 1298 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:25.600 it at that, and uh, you know, go ahead and 1299 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:27.479 end your show as you like. I mean, we could 1300 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:29.159 just help cut right to it, or you could just 1301 01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:31.000 do your thing. That's fine, and we'll get to the 1302 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.720 Uncle hour because we need some comedy. So let's get 1303 01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.840 to it. What do you say I tell me about it? 1304 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:40.960 Yeah, well, this is the Age of Transitions. And yeah, 1305 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.199 this is on the Oceli Radio Network live on a 1306 01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.760 Friday night, says stay tuned. As always, we will continue 1307 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.600 on with Uncle. The broadcast coming up right next, So 1308 01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:55.560 stay here The Age of Transitions dot com. That's the website. 1309 01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:56.920 My name is. 1310 01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:48.880 Just a. 1311 01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:16.239 Oh Chili dot com wan one. 1312 01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.359 This is a comedy alum won This is the comedy 1313 01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:25.239 man talk here, sidekicking Missus, sidekicking Crazy excellence in the 1314 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.960 crack Home Won Won Uncle the podcast One Bone Uncle, 1315 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.399 the podcast Get the Phones for Crack Room, Free Cream 1316 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:39.520 one and one Want. 1317 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:44.119 Uncle the podcast dot Com Radio Network. 1318 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:49.399 Warning, Morning morning, Morning, Morning, morning morning. 1319 01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:54.319 This is monas podcast. Go wright, go wait, go ahead, 1320 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:57.560 go wait here we pick up God hand your cell 1321 01:21:57.640 --> 01:21:59.800 phones and man, that's what you do. 1322 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:01.199 I'll go to the broadcast. 1323 01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:09.119 Watch out. If you're sitting down for this, oh, if you're. 1324 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:12.520 Standing up, the better, get ready for this, because it's 1325 01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:14.359 gonna hit the air drums. 1326 01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:17.720 I'll go the podcast. 1327 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.399 You are listening to Uncle the Broadcast. My name is Aaron. 1328 01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:26.039 I'm the nephew in law. Here to me is the 1329 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:27.079 start of the show. Uncle. 1330 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:32.079 Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Three nine nine is the number. 1331 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:34.079 One man, what a number. 1332 01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:37.399 And we're getting here. We're getting close. 1333 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.760 We're so close to there. But right now we're here. 1334 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:43.680 But when we're when we're there, we'll let everybody out, 1335 01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.079 right Uncle, Like, that's the main point. We're live on 1336 01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:52.039 the Ocelly Radio Network tonight, as we are every Fridayoelli 1337 01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:57.079 dot com. This is eleven pm or it's after that. 1338 01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:02.079 Usually it starts at eleven pm. It's eight pm on 1339 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.319 the Pacific time. 1340 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:07.039 Right, really really quickly, here's what I'm gonna do for you, 1341 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.760 just real fast. Apologize to the listeners to the age 1342 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:14.600 of transitions, and also apologies to regular listeners of Uncle 1343 01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:20.000 the Podcast Live, cause we started late tonight and we're 1344 01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:21.960 gonna we're gonna carry it a little bit over the hour. 1345 01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:26.119 But normally we begin a round eleven pm Eastern, which 1346 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:30.760 is just about what eight pm Pacific, right, And that's 1347 01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:33.359 what we do. Three one nine, five, two seven, five 1348 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:35.960 zero one six is the number to call, and we 1349 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:40.239 may limit the time for callers tonight depending on what happens. 1350 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:43.479 So get in quick if you can. Three one nine, 1351 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:46.960 five two seven five zero one six, and uh, make 1352 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:49.600 it interesting because Uncle's got a lot to say, and 1353 01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:51.439 I got a few things to do. So I'm gonna 1354 01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:54.880 bow out and actually not talk during this hour again. 1355 01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:57.079 Back to Aaron and Uncle. 1356 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:05.279 Thank you, chat you now we've got we've got here. 1357 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:12.319 I'm going to have well, got to say tonight for 1358 01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:13.920 next week. 1359 01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:20.840 I'll be away for one week, but I'll be back 1360 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:23.800 and I'll have something to talk about. Oh yeah, you're 1361 01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:24.560 gonna following week. 1362 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:26.159 You're gonna be away next week? Right O. 1363 01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:28.439 Wait, wait, that's when it's time to tell these people. 1364 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:29.920 Yeah, no Uncle, show next week. 1365 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:32.039 So so it's only to be a show. 1366 01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:35.239 You can edit it or you don't have to have 1367 01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:36.840 to do it. It depends, but you. 1368 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:39.880 We'll see, we'll see. I actually I haven't even thought 1369 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:40.079 of that. 1370 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:41.000 Maybe I have. 1371 01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:44.159 I have well, okay, it's getting close to doing. 1372 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.640 What do you think I should do? Uncle? So I 1373 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:47.119 do a show? 1374 01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:47.359 Or no? 1375 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.800 Maybe no, I might take a week off you're you're 1376 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:53.600 really tempting me here. I might not be here next week, 1377 01:24:54.279 --> 01:25:01.439 going to be hopefully not Friday night. If I do, 1378 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.039 then I'm really in trouble, more so than even usual. 1379 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:07.920 But yeah, as Chuck was saying, we are taking calls, 1380 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.439 so calling number three one nine five, zero one six. 1381 01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.239 You better in the hustling. You better getting call in there. 1382 01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:19.479 It's going to be eliminated. It's going to be eliminated, limited, limited, 1383 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:23.399 limited for tonight. It's a limited engagement, So you better 1384 01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:24.159 get hustling. 1385 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:25.640 Do you want to talk to me? 1386 01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.479 Yeah, we're live on Shelly. Were also live streamed of video. 1387 01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:33.880 I'm looking at the different platforms. Uh display would it 1388 01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:36.760 looks like? Yeah, I'm now I'm just playing around with graphics, 1389 01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:38.960 because why not. Let's just play with graphics and give 1390 01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:42.199 people an exciting visual presentation. 1391 01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:49.520 Is the lady thing? The lady thing and smoke we 1392 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:51.600 got packed down here with the with the ariien. 1393 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:52.600 You want you want? 1394 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.760 I like that alien been having a smoke. 1395 01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:59.119 Let me see im with the smoke when you're doing you. 1396 01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:06.720 We got that. We've got the macho man. This is 1397 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.399 what you're talking about. That's there. We go. Yeah, I've 1398 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:12.359 got a lot of graphics, and I do. I have 1399 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:14.119 to say, uncle, I have fun with the graphics that 1400 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.479 we use for the live stream, and I really enjoy playing. 1401 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.600 Now you're playing away with it a lot. I've noticed you. 1402 01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:22.840 I mean, why not. It's makes the show interesting, something different. 1403 01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:26.640 You know, we need to give people something other than 1404 01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:30.039 what they see elsewhere, and these graphics are a way 1405 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.600 to do that. Look, here's a This is a photo 1406 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:34.439 I took and I turned it into this. Look how 1407 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:35.279 colorful that is? 1408 01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:36.520 Didn't I agree? 1409 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:37.680 What is it? I bet? 1410 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:38.800 I look like a train? 1411 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:39.840 What? 1412 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:41.319 Uh? 1413 01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:44.840 A chang? 1414 01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:45.439 Uncle? 1415 01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:48.439 A table? 1416 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:49.239 I uh? 1417 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:50.800 Looks like something. 1418 01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:54.199 I can't take. 1419 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:55.600 But now you want to know what it is. 1420 01:26:56.800 --> 01:26:57.800 It's part of a train. 1421 01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:58.880 It's part of a train. 1422 01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.760 It's the side door opening. 1423 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:04.479 You are there, Yeah, that's it looks like that. 1424 01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.520 That's what it is, a side door opening. 1425 01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:09.680 Well you're close, But this is actually what this is. 1426 01:27:10.119 --> 01:27:13.079 It's similar to that. This is taken from the inside 1427 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:17.479 of an RV that was out in Landers, abandoned on 1428 01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:19.199 a desert road. 1429 01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:23.520 You took that out? Oh there? And you how did 1430 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:24.000 you get that? 1431 01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:27.439 Any Well, it's interesting the RV. You're not sating you're 1432 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:31.000 only seeing a view from inside the RV looking out 1433 01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:33.760 the windows at the desert landscape. But if you could 1434 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:38.159 see behind what's in this photo, you would notice that 1435 01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:41.159 about half of the RV is actually missing and it's 1436 01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:44.119 open to the open air because somebody like ripped the 1437 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:46.600 side off of it. And this is a large class 1438 01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:51.239 A size RV. We're talking about somebody just uh you know, 1439 01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:54.640 wrecked it or left it out on this desert road. 1440 01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:56.039 They ripped it open, So. 1441 01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:00.479 You gotta tell me. You out there took the picture, 1442 01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:03.159 came back and made this. 1443 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:04.600 I came back and made that. 1444 01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:08.640 Yeah, I made these crazy colors because I think they 1445 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.680 look cool. You can do that kind of magic with 1446 01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:14.039 the Adobe Creative sweet. I think I did this one 1447 01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.079 an illustrator. But I've got a bunch of these different 1448 01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:20.159 landscape photos I've taken. This is another one from Landers. 1449 01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.319 This is just the hike up Goat Mountain. That's the 1450 01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:24.439 side of Goat Mountain right there, and the view of 1451 01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:28.399 Landers below and beautiful wacky doodle looking colors. This is 1452 01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.800 Death Valley. This is Bryce Canyon. 1453 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.439 I'm told you're making money out that house. 1454 01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:39.880 House. Yeah, well, yeah, that's the idea, right people. 1455 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.319 People are linking it out now, I'm you probably got 1456 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:43.760 some people. 1457 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:46.800 Yeah, yeah, it's actually that I mean, now that you 1458 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:49.560 mentioned it, that actually is going well. That is something 1459 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:54.000 that it's been a success. It's not the world's largest business, 1460 01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:55.159 but it's a success. 1461 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:56.439 And none of the last. So it's something I am 1462 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:56.880 proud of. 1463 01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.279 And so you know, while while I'm out there they're 1464 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:04.039 doing useful things like making money, I'm also doing completely 1465 01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:09.199 useless things by taking photos of giant rock and later 1466 01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:13.239 making giant rock purple with green clouds behind it. There's 1467 01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:16.600 no purpose in doing that. O'cole zero that I didn't 1468 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:17.640 make a money doing this. 1469 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:23.359 Oh oh, no, speaking money speaking speaking on behalf of 1470 01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:27.239 a private message from a listener. Uh, they want to 1471 01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:32.520 know because it was brought up on my show, and 1472 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.399 I think this person is from Germany. I'd really love 1473 01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:37.880 it if you would call in. I have sent them 1474 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:41.680 the international German number so they can call in for 1475 01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:47.199 free from Germany and right, but I don't want to 1476 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:50.119 confuse anybody who's generally listening, because we got the one 1477 01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:53.079 listener from Germany. So I just got a message from 1478 01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:56.279 somebody in Germany, and I'm thinking they're listening because they've 1479 01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.880 been listening, and their question is this, because we're entering 1480 01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:05.000 football playoffs here. They want to know about the dollar 1481 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:09.439 bet because I mentioned on my show we do that 1482 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:11.159 Koolie never paid. 1483 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:14.159 I agree with that. 1484 01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:19.239 Yes, talk to that man he's supposed to pay. Well, 1485 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:21.720 we're going to have I'm going to have a subject 1486 01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:28.159 with that. They need subject Koli and we Buddy paid. 1487 01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:32.840 He been his and we've been telling you he pay 1488 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:36.479 here Ben here, he's even got it Postconde. 1489 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.359 Hey, what do you call it? On the on the 1490 01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:42.680 on the dollar? Supposed to be. 1491 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:48.199 His team on the dollar, and you gave a good 1492 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.520 point to it, Chuck, None's something I'm talking about. 1493 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:54.399 Well, that's our German listener. That's our German listener who 1494 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:58.720 calls himself ready for this klouse the fish who is 1495 01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:07.239 messaging me private on Chattango. It's a reference to American Dad, 1496 01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:09.119 you know, the fish, the talking fish. 1497 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.640 Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I think so he's supposed to 1498 01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:14.239 be Germans. 1499 01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:17.880 You know that's the bit. Anyway, klouts the fish in Germany. 1500 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.520 Uh said that, and also wants to know if we 1501 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:25.399 are going to do another Super Bowl bet or if 1502 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:28.600 we're going to bet on the playoffs. So that's what 1503 01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:32.359 they want to know because they're going to do something 1504 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:34.359 there in Germany. If we do it on the show, 1505 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:37.119 just get a sh your dad for the playoffs. 1506 01:31:37.359 --> 01:31:38.479 Because that seemed easy. 1507 01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:40.399 Yeah. 1508 01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:43.119 No, we didn't do the playoffs last year, but we 1509 01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:44.880 just did the super Bowl, and I say, we do 1510 01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:47.600 the same thing, but Cooley's not allowed to participate till 1511 01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:49.479 he pays. It's that simple. 1512 01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:54.000 But the point is, I want to make sure I'm 1513 01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:57.680 not saying that people and I did, but I'm talking 1514 01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.439 about if Cooley wants to get in it to this, 1515 01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:03.199 that would mean two dollars off for. 1516 01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:06.760 Him if he gonna. If he's getting into. 1517 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.079 This, well, I brought this us. Let me let me 1518 01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:11.600 run this by you first, Bill, because I was angry 1519 01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:13.600 on my show and I came up with a rule 1520 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.000 and I decided to call it the Coolie rule. Okay, 1521 01:32:18.039 --> 01:32:21.159 and I said, and this is why this guy's asking 1522 01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:23.600 you the question. And I think he's gonna he might 1523 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:25.159 have just sent me another message. I'll get to it 1524 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:28.720 in a second. But the thing is, the Coolie rule 1525 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:33.399 is this. If you don't pay it off in thirty days, 1526 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:38.920 you now owe triple and in another thirty days. You 1527 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:42.359 owe another triple every month, I would. 1528 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.439 Say, so mine. 1529 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:47.279 Do you like a cooler rule on Coli? Right? 1530 01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:48.439 That sounds interesting. 1531 01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.079 Now we can't do it to Kooli. We can't do 1532 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:53.039 it to Koolie because that wasn't part of the agreement 1533 01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:55.720 to begin with. But he needs to pay up. But 1534 01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:58.279 anybody else, you get. 1535 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.960 All these other guys and what's his name? Still? 1536 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:03.359 Yes, who's talking? 1537 01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:03.720 Yeah? 1538 01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:07.960 No good, I'm what's what's his name? Is still on 1539 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:09.439 the lamb on the and. 1540 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.920 The listeners still he still has oh he's been having 1541 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:16.920 him he had ill problems, but he hasn't been talking, 1542 01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:19.279 and he's still waiting on his money. 1543 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:21.159 Still one on Coolie. 1544 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:22.239 I mean he's talking about Robie. 1545 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:26.600 I've been I've been still waiting, I think so. 1546 01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:28.800 But the point from the guy in Germany is, and 1547 01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:31.039 this is what he followed up with. It has been 1548 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:38.079 more than a year, all capital letters. Yeah that so 1549 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:40.800 there you go. Okay, thank you, Klaus. 1550 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.199 The Eagles won, as you remember, it was not that 1551 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.880 was the Eagles versus Kansas City and Eagles ended up 1552 01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:49.800 coming up on top. 1553 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:52.720 So yeah, and now we won that bet because his 1554 01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:57.520 team that he picked Lewis and it's supposed to pay up. 1555 01:33:58.199 --> 01:33:59.319 I thought he was supposed to pay up. 1556 01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:02.680 And yeah, well that's what we're getting. I mean, the 1557 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.079 coolie rule was not institute at that point. I guess 1558 01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:08.079 maybe it should have been, but it was, well, well, 1559 01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.319 I have to see it could be dangerous coming up 1560 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:16.039 with these doing these wagers on the show. Clearly we've 1561 01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:18.079 had problems in the past. Maybe we can pull it off. 1562 01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:21.079 You know, you're not in them. I was one in them. 1563 01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:23.279 I was not in it. 1564 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:25.119 No, you didn't put Nolla in. 1565 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:27.439 I was just I'm just an observer. Yeah, I know. 1566 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:32.960 And we're trying to investigate, trying to figure out what 1567 01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:35.199 the bookies are saying over here. 1568 01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.079 Yeah, it's true. What you're saying is all true. All 1569 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:41.560 these things did happen as the observer. I will say that. 1570 01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:45.800 So it's true what everybody's saying. What we do about 1571 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.399 I don't know. We'll see, but we're making a show here. 1572 01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:55.159 We're having fun on Friday Uncle the podcast. You know 1573 01:34:55.239 --> 01:35:01.720 Kelly Radio Network. People can call in if they want three, one, nine, but. 1574 01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:05.279 One cold last week and it was I know who 1575 01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:05.920 it was too. 1576 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:08.600 You do remember who the last caller was? 1577 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:09.199 Jimmy. 1578 01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.119 Oh, okay, called last week. That sounds right, Well, the 1579 01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:14.680 week before last week? We were here last week, oh. 1580 01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:17.039 Long before that? 1581 01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:18.000 Hard to keep track? 1582 01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:19.359 Yeah, yeah, I know that much. 1583 01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:21.800 Yeah, so we're trying to keep track. 1584 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.439 We're doing okay, but I would like to see though, 1585 01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:27.520 if people do want to listen to me. 1586 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:32.119 We hadn't asked discussion before, so I kicked. It's about 1587 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.279 putting it on for the people to listen, even though 1588 01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:35.960 I'm not here. 1589 01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:37.520 Oh yes, I know it. 1590 01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:43.399 Well, we have to let's think about this, because heck, 1591 01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:47.079 you do it one time, do that one time, it's 1592 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:50.760 one time, and you pubably see here coming out. 1593 01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:53.000 Bet I have a retort to this. I'm not sure 1594 01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:53.720 if you're going to like this. 1595 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:55.119 My question. 1596 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.399 It's a question. Actually, my question to you is what 1597 01:35:58.640 --> 01:35:59.920 episode number we on tonight? 1598 01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:00.840 One? 1599 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:02.359 Nine nine? 1600 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:06.319 Okay, So that means how many episodes do we have 1601 01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:09.600 in our podcast queue? If people go and listen to 1602 01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:11.439 the podcast on the podcast app. 1603 01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:16.159 This will be then this would be this one, but 1604 01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:19.680 when it's done, but when this one is done, so. 1605 01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:24.800 So there's roughly and this is a rough one, yeah, 1606 01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:28.439 roughly one hundred and ninety eight episodes episodes in the 1607 01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:31.359 podcast list and you go listen to it on Apple 1608 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:36.600 Podcasts or whatever. They're there. They're there every hour of 1609 01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:39.760 every day. Everybody just half the time and listen. 1610 01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:44.079 So you from the beginning, if you haven't Hoby, from 1611 01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:45.039 the beginning. 1612 01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:48.279 To now, you're following what my point is here? Yeah, yeah, 1613 01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:52.279 I know, I know exacting is I'm I'm expressing the 1614 01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:57.399 futility of entering a quote unquote new episode to the 1615 01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:02.600 live show when there's just constant content all the time 1616 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:08.319 average for all of eternity in theory, which won't be 1617 01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:11.239 at all, But you know, theoretically, all they have to 1618 01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:12.920 do is just go to the podcast thing and listen 1619 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.279 to them. Hell, somebody who's new the show could go 1620 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:19.079 back and listen to episode one and you know, binge 1621 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:20.399 all the way up to it. 1622 01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:23.640 You know, they'll find out that's how funny I only am. 1623 01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.720 Maybe I mean, from that, from that standpoint, maybe they 1624 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.359 should do that. They don't people want to try to 1625 01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:29.920 find they. 1626 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:31.159 Try that out, everybody. 1627 01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:33.279 We've got creative accents in the chat. 1628 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:34.560 What's up creative accents? 1629 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:39.880 Accent? He's he's suggesting a new hashtag. We need to 1630 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.439 start using hashtag justice for Kooli. 1631 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:45.399 Hashtag. 1632 01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:47.039 I guess he just created that one. 1633 01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:48.840 Wait a minute, justice for Kooli. 1634 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:54.560 No, no, no, just a creative accent. According to Creative Accents, No. 1635 01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:58.479 You know what I go with Almost every idea Creative 1636 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:02.359 Accidents has this is he's wasted a year not to 1637 01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:07.000 send a dollar to four guys. Come on, so he 1638 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:08.680 doesn't deserve justice. 1639 01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:10.520 Justice? 1640 01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:18.359 Oh dang, this should be lean on coolly? Or how 1641 01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:21.199 about he pays a big he's got to pay interest? Now, 1642 01:38:21.399 --> 01:38:24.439 this is a year almost right? What was the date 1643 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:25.159 of the Super Bowl? 1644 01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:26.119 A dollar? 1645 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:26.920 A dollar? 1646 01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:27.880 Two interest? 1647 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.680 How's that a dollar or two an interest? Yeah? 1648 01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:31.800 That sounds fair? 1649 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:32.560 Why not? 1650 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:33.640 That sounds about right? 1651 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:35.279 Like the sound of that. 1652 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:38.079 Okay, but how often do we apply interest? What a 1653 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:40.600 dollar a year? So you know he waits five years? 1654 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.359 Boom, it will be five years the time we get it. 1655 01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.239 I think if you think of that, one could be waiting. 1656 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:49.840 Go lie on this. 1657 01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:53.760 I mean, yeah, that will buy me a new pair 1658 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:55.439 of glasses by the time he got the thing. 1659 01:38:57.840 --> 01:38:59.720 Coolly, we need a call from you, Come on, we 1660 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:01.760 need call. It's been a minute. It was like we're 1661 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:03.720 not gonna necessarily. 1662 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:09.199 Oh wamen, who's on his into it. 1663 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:12.560 The button sticky. 1664 01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:17.279 There we go, long time for time, Random Death Medaller here, Yes, 1665 01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:22.399 Oh my gosh, Random Death Medaller. 1666 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:23.159 What's up man? 1667 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:24.279 What'd you been to? 1668 01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:24.640 Oh? 1669 01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:25.600 Man, this is exciting. 1670 01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:31.760 Oh you know, sorry, was that breaking up a bit? 1671 01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:37.119 But we're just sorry. There the fact that you're calling man, 1672 01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:39.680 this this is truly awesome. 1673 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:41.600 You know, you know what I threw it. 1674 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:43.479 I threw it in a chat room. 1675 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:45.760 I saw Random Death Medaller in the chat room and 1676 01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:48.680 I said, you know, because he's he pops in and out. 1677 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:50.479 You know, sometimes we don't see him for months and 1678 01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:53.600 he pops back in. You know, I am I, I 1679 01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:56.640 I thank you for many things, Random Death Medaller. You 1680 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:59.920 are awesome, dude. I love you. I just want you 1681 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:02.680 know that from the producer. But I said to him 1682 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:04.199 just in the chat room, I said, why don't you 1683 01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:06.319 call in? Because I do that to people in the 1684 01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:08.199 chat you know, if I see like one two guys 1685 01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.039 in there, I'm like, hey, somebody call in. You call in? 1686 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:13.000 And I just threw it at him and he actually 1687 01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:15.079 did it, so welcome man. 1688 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:19.039 Yeah, he's a long time listener, first time caller exactly. 1689 01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:21.960 Yeah, I'm not sure I got too much to add 1690 01:40:22.039 --> 01:40:26.760 to this conversation, but I love the show. Been listening 1691 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.439 for a long time, and let's be. I'm gonna say 1692 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:30.119 what I think we. 1693 01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:32.479 All want to say. Is cool, he's lucky he has 1694 01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:33.439 a new cap. Still. 1695 01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:37.920 Come on, now, hey, now there is like that. 1696 01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:38.640 I'll call O. 1697 01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:44.800 Is he getting made us? Said KOOLI? The people pissing 1698 01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:48.279 it off here, you've been a gig moving, send it, 1699 01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:49.479 send it out. 1700 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:52.239 I might have to get KOOLI to call back in 1701 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:54.119 because it's been a man. We need to resolve this. 1702 01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:57.880 Well, you gotta be yet you're putting in Ohio. You 1703 01:40:58.039 --> 01:40:59.000 better talking. 1704 01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:03.800 Yeah, it's an Ohio problem, that's for sure. Yeah, oh man, 1705 01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:06.159 random death Medler, thank you so much for all that 1706 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:08.359 you sent me. A lot of really cool stuff over 1707 01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:08.840 his ears. 1708 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:11.039 Thank you so much for all that stuff. 1709 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:12.159 That reminds me. 1710 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:15.239 I'm gonna say thank you for that shot glass and 1711 01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:17.680 I got some I'll make email you off. 1712 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:19.840 The air or whatever and get your address because I 1713 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:24.119 got some stuff to send to you. Even Yeah, yeah, 1714 01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:27.520 you help with the should help. 1715 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.840 With the the whatever content you've been watching with the 1716 01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:34.199 old conspiracy DVDs and shows and stuff. 1717 01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:35.960 I got a ton of that stuff. 1718 01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:36.720 From back of the day. 1719 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:37.199 Nice. 1720 01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.359 Oh cool, awesome man, Yeah, I would that would definitely 1721 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:44.199 be great. Yeah, I've got quite the collection as well. 1722 01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:47.640 But yeah, anything you got could be helpful, that's for sure. Man. 1723 01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:52.520 That's cool, no doubt you get back, We get back. 1724 01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:53.119 What do you guys? 1725 01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:54.960 What? What's everybody drinking tonight? 1726 01:41:58.119 --> 01:41:59.520 What do you got have anything? 1727 01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:02.760 I was gonna blew up a couple of beer or 1728 01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:06.039 two now, I mean on the way up. 1729 01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:08.279 But uh, you have a you? 1730 01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:08.800 Well? 1731 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:12.399 Yeah, I yeah, I'm I'm not able to drink for 1732 01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:15.840 a while, maybe later, but I'll be back, but I'm 1733 01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:17.199 temporary hiatus. 1734 01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:21.960 Do you have anything interesting? The death Kneller to drink? 1735 01:42:22.319 --> 01:42:25.159 No, I just drank a Sierra Nevada pale Ale. 1736 01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:30.840 Nice, did you have a Yeah, I've always said from 1737 01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:31.800 nine to ten on that one. 1738 01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:34.079 I just heard that Sierra. 1739 01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:38.479 Nevada pale Ale and Heineken supposedly have never had no. 1740 01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:39.600 Fluoride in the water. 1741 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:43.520 Wow, okay, they've never had. 1742 01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:48.600 Yeah, for whenever it's worth. That could be wrong, but 1743 01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:49.720 you know I've heard that. 1744 01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:54.000 Yeah, and Sierra Nevada pale Ale do not have fluoride 1745 01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:54.560 in their beer. 1746 01:42:56.560 --> 01:43:02.079 Cool dang, I think Phil said, I mean, I mean 1747 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:05.359 if I always drinking one and you don't have a dream, 1748 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:07.199 I don't like to do that, but I. 1749 01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:07.840 Know that you don't. 1750 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:11.560 You can, Yeah, Uncle, don't let me spoil the mood. 1751 01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:15.239 You can always still review something. If you come across 1752 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:17.159 something that looks good to you, you can get it 1753 01:43:17.279 --> 01:43:18.960 and then bring it to Friday night. 1754 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:20.439 Then you can do a review of it. 1755 01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:22.920 That's good. We can do that. I might even do 1756 01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:24.800 a shot glass worth of it to keep it at that, 1757 01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:28.600 just as a true tasting. See, I'm a true connoisseur. 1758 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:31.600 I don't drink to just become wasted and blackout like 1759 01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:34.439 everybody else out there drinking. I drink it because I 1760 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.479 enjoy the flavor, and I love the review process here 1761 01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:41.039 at Uncle the Prodcast. So I may actually do that. 1762 01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:41.960 How about that? 1763 01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:47.399 I was out for sophistication, right. 1764 01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:50.600 I was gonna bring one up. 1765 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:54.479 Yeah, well, I mean I was going to as I 1766 01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:56.800 was in the in the kitchen going back and forth. 1767 01:43:56.840 --> 01:43:59.079 What could I bring an autonomy? 1768 01:43:59.279 --> 01:43:59.640 Damn it? 1769 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:02.319 N my mind flip my mind to come up here? 1770 01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:03.039 I come up here? 1771 01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:05.279 It was the beer. Yeah, yeah, But back to you, 1772 01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:08.439 a random do you have a scale of one to 1773 01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:11.159 ten rating for your Sierra Nevada that you had? 1774 01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:14.119 Where would you rate your drink you had? 1775 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:20.279 I'd give that maybe a seven or an eight. I 1776 01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:24.119 prefer hard liquor myself, but I mean seven or eight 1777 01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:24.640 for the beer. 1778 01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:28.920 Yeah, Okay, that's pretty good. And since you're on here, 1779 01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:31.000 I want to ask you a couple of questions, Like, 1780 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:33.880 first of all, I know you got the name Random 1781 01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:37.880 death Medaler because you truly are a fan of death metal. 1782 01:44:40.079 --> 01:44:43.720 What yeah, yeah, yeah, do you want to talk just 1783 01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:49.760 about like maybe your uh interest in death metal generally? 1784 01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:54.760 Since you're here, I'd like to hear about it from. 1785 01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:55.479 How you describe it. 1786 01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:56.079 I don't know. 1787 01:44:56.399 --> 01:45:00.079 I've been listening to it forever since I was I 1788 01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.000 was the latch key kid off in San Francisco at 1789 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:05.560 like eleven twelve years old, going to. 1790 01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:10.079 These concerts and stuff. So yeah, you've been listening to 1791 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:10.520 it forever. 1792 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:11.920 Love it that is. 1793 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:17.479 And this girlfriend, oh good joh, his girlfriend she always 1794 01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:20.960 called me random thought man. And then it just came 1795 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:22.680 at the time when that came up, and then it 1796 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:23.720 just got put together. 1797 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:24.239 Wow. 1798 01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:28.319 See now San Francisco the origin of that pres San 1799 01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:34.079 Francisco was a great area for certain legendary uh you 1800 01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:38.000 know death metal bands when they were coming up, depending 1801 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:39.920 on what air was listening. 1802 01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:42.199 So absolutely crass death. 1803 01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:44.399 Yeah yeah, there's a lot off. I mean, you know 1804 01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:48.199 you're trying to right, I was just going to bring 1805 01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:48.640 them up. 1806 01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:52.880 Absolutely, yeah, you know. 1807 01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:57.800 But even it's Slayer Exodus, yeah sure, yeah. 1808 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:01.880 That's it. Yeah, you know, is Testament Testament? 1809 01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:03.079 Yeap? 1810 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:04.399 I opened for Testament? 1811 01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:07.199 Oh nice. 1812 01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:10.920 I love that stitch work though, Chuck, props to you 1813 01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:12.199 on that one. That's a good one. 1814 01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:15.720 That demo the only death metal surviving stuff that I 1815 01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:20.119 have in digital form. Yeah, I'm I was really happy. 1816 01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.079 That's nineteen ninety four, believe it or not. 1817 01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:25.840 What is Yeah, that's a good era. 1818 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:29.880 Yeah, well it was wild because that's when Eric Rattan 1819 01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:33.359 came out of Ripping Corpse and went to a Morbid Angel, 1820 01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.960 right yep. And he actually didn't know he didn't play 1821 01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:40.439 track on God of Emptiness, but he ended up in 1822 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.479 the video. That's exactly the time period. Remember God of Emptiness, 1823 01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:44.319 that weird video. 1824 01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:47.560 Bo tell you Oh yeah yeah, I do. 1825 01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:50.359 Yeah with the Old Man or whatever it is. 1826 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:52.640 Yeah, Bow to me for. 1827 01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:56.760 Yeah, that was featured. 1828 01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:01.960 It was it was But you got to understand all 1829 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:04.880 around the country when we saw that. I like, Aaron, 1830 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:06.840 I know you're an eclectic music guy, but if you 1831 01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:08.479 were a death metal musician at the. 1832 01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:13.680 Time, you were like yes, it was just like yeah, yeah, 1833 01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:14.359 it was great. 1834 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:21.319 We were losing it. We're like, yeah, what would be 1835 01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:25.000 what's the first death metal band you remember seeing? Random? 1836 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:31.800 Yeah, the actual death metal man, I don't know, probably 1837 01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:38.640 had to be like maybe Obituary or Autopsy Incantation one 1838 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:42.359 of these bands made. But I see thrash metal bands 1839 01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:45.560 before that. You know, my older brother and whatnot. 1840 01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:50.079 Right, that's cool, that's awesome. 1841 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:54.319 Early nineties, I like I saw Morbid Angel at the Stone, 1842 01:47:56.439 --> 01:48:00.720 San Francisco. Yeah, Morbid Angel, Creator Paradise. I think it 1843 01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:02.199 was the Stone. 1844 01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:05.840 Yeah. You know what's interesting. You know what's interesting A 1845 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:09.760 random and tell me if you've noticed this. But kids, 1846 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.119 I'm talking like kids who are like teenager maybe young twenties, 1847 01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:17.760 are super into metal now. And when I go out, 1848 01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:21.840 like I went out wearing a Blood Incantation long sleeved 1849 01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:25.399 T shirt to the mall, I was like buying Christmas presents. Okay, 1850 01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:27.840 and when I was checking out, it's like just so 1851 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.600 like cuts shop where you buy stuff for your kids. 1852 01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:33.600 The like twenty year old cashier was like, oh, that's 1853 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.279 bloody incantation, right. I'm like yeah, I'm like you listen 1854 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:37.600 to I'm like yeah, I just started listening to it. 1855 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:42.760 Kids like really love all this death metal? Now were 1856 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:43.399 you aware of this. 1857 01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:46.479 That sort of? 1858 01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:49.079 But I mean it seems like it's all tinged with 1859 01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:51.079 like that little modern emo. 1860 01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:52.800 I don't know what it is. It's not quite the 1861 01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:55.520 same as it was like a long in the past. 1862 01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:58.960 They're all like, you know about type it's like tight 1863 01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:03.159 pants metals, you know what I mean, jeans it's weird metal. 1864 01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:06.600 It's it's weird now because look, he he came up 1865 01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:10.119 in an era where you got a fanzine and you 1866 01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:13.039 thought a name was cool in a like a one 1867 01:49:13.159 --> 01:49:16.319 paragraph review of a death metal demo, and then you 1868 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:19.760 literally would order it from the band for like five bucks. 1869 01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:24.560 I mean, this is the reality of where death metal 1870 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.199 was in the nineties, right, no internet, nothing. 1871 01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:32.479 And I remember, yeah, me and my friends we'd go 1872 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:35.439 to the store, the record shop, and like we'd each. 1873 01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:37.479 Go, Okay, you're gonna buy this and I'll buy this, 1874 01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:40.000 you know. Then we just trade, you know, solely based 1875 01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:42.079 on the cover and what they look like on. 1876 01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.800 The back and song titles, you know, yeah, and everybody. 1877 01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:45.760 Some of them were just like. 1878 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.720 So instantaneously, you're like, in the garbage, I'm never listening 1879 01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:51.720 to this again, you know, twenty bucks down. 1880 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.520 The drain, and then whatever survived, right, whatever survived then everybody, 1881 01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:57.680 you'd sit there making copies. You'd listen to it again 1882 01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:00.119 because it's like you play it in real time and 1883 01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:03.439 make a double double tape deck copy of it because 1884 01:50:03.439 --> 01:50:07.159 it was like, oh yeah, my copy absolutely see I Okay, 1885 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:09.439 I'm gonna give you a couple of deep cuts from 1886 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:11.560 the Jersey medal scene because here's a weird thing too. 1887 01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:15.119 We were we would go after stuff from like California 1888 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:18.960 and Florida in Jersey because we had access to New York, 1889 01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:22.039 we had access to Boston. So I'll tell you a 1890 01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:23.880 band I managed. I don't know if you ever heard 1891 01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:25.399 of them. You ever hear a cryptic realm? 1892 01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:31.199 No, I want to say torture crypt I've heard of them. 1893 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:32.279 They're from out there, aren't they. 1894 01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.119 Those guys were my roommates at the Hot Dog House. Dude, 1895 01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:36.359 we there. 1896 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:40.199 Yeah, that that one demo to you? I remember that 1897 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:41.199 was pretty badass? 1898 01:50:41.399 --> 01:50:46.880 Oh yeah, oh yeah absolutely, what was it? My My 1899 01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:48.720 favorite song from them was Disassembly. 1900 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:53.359 Yeah yeah, they were good. 1901 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:54.720 Yeah, brutal. 1902 01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:55.359 No. 1903 01:50:55.520 --> 01:50:56.159 I played a lot of. 1904 01:50:57.960 --> 01:50:58.319 Corpse. 1905 01:50:58.439 --> 01:50:58.600 Yeah. 1906 01:50:58.760 --> 01:50:59.840 What else is from Jersey? 1907 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:05.199 Well, ripping cord there was. Let me think about this. Here, Inebriation, 1908 01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:11.119 the band of Abriation out of there, a band called 1909 01:51:11.279 --> 01:51:14.199 Gaft which was previously called Rich. 1910 01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:15.319 I've heard of them. 1911 01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:19.079 Ritual Torment was those guys went to. 1912 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:19.720 High school with me. 1913 01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:23.640 They're pretty brutal too. Oh they were kind of. 1914 01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:29.520 Yeah, Gafts wasn't bad, definitely, they they were. 1915 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.159 They were taking over the uncles Joe with this death 1916 01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:33.039 metal stuff here. 1917 01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:35.560 Well, no, but it's a rare call. 1918 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.560 You think that about this moment? What are you thinking 1919 01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:47.520 of something in the bent let's figure out. Let's go 1920 01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:48.680 on ount and. 1921 01:51:48.680 --> 01:51:54.039 It's which are your best womans of best metalists? 1922 01:51:54.399 --> 01:51:57.680 Are we doing like a top ten ten listeners of. 1923 01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:02.000 Death death mental? Go ahead and hit him and let's 1924 01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:03.560 say which one you guys come up with? 1925 01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:06.199 And this is direct from random death medallers. 1926 01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:09.520 Yeah, so this is gonna be uh. 1927 01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:13.960 I want to add something to it. I want the 1928 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:18.000 best and worst that he ever heard, because I got 1929 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:21.039 an easy I got a hard time picking the best, 1930 01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:26.199 but I got an easy time picking the worst and 1931 01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:32.119 random death Medaller knows what I'm talking about, Okay, because 1932 01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:33.159 some of these guys. 1933 01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:36.880 Yeah there's there though. 1934 01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:39.720 You know, you know who was the worst one from Jersey? 1935 01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:44.319 I ever heard deterior Rot? You remember that? 1936 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:45.399 Oh? 1937 01:52:45.640 --> 01:52:50.079 Yeah, yeah, I do not to be confused with Deteriorate. 1938 01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:51.279 No from uh. 1939 01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:54.159 I believe they were from Chicago or something like that. 1940 01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:58.319 They're badass, right, no one problem in hell something like that. 1941 01:52:58.520 --> 01:53:01.119 I thought they were from all I thought they from Ohio. Actually, 1942 01:53:01.159 --> 01:53:02.079 weren't they from Ohio? 1943 01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:05.800 Something like that, Yeah, Midwest somewhere, I believe. Yeah, I 1944 01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:07.760 mean I could be yeah, no doubt. But that one 1945 01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:11.119 album with this stupid stole drawing on the front cover, 1946 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:12.920 I mean nothing, That one was badass. 1947 01:53:13.159 --> 01:53:17.840 Oh but that deterior Rot here's the awful Oh my god, 1948 01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:20.399 it's awful. The funniest thing is, look if you ever 1949 01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:22.479 looked at the information, because they had a full blown 1950 01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:24.520 they put a lot of money into their album cover, 1951 01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:27.680 and it was like I looked at this thing and 1952 01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:31.760 I was like, this is like incomprehensible. You know that 1953 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:34.000 was back in the days of like your death metal logo. 1954 01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:34.880 You couldn't read it. 1955 01:53:37.720 --> 01:53:39.239 That was wasn't there? 1956 01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:42.319 I want to say, they claimed that fame was wasn't 1957 01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:45.560 somebody that like was an incantation a part. 1958 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:46.359 Of that deal or something? 1959 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:51.319 Yeah, somehow right somehow? Then and a band that I 1960 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:53.680 was supposed to front, but then they picked a different 1961 01:53:53.720 --> 01:54:00.279 guy called Killed by Inches was was which away. 1962 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:01.359 I almost got myself. 1963 01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:03.399 Into the murder junkies at one point because remember I 1964 01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:07.039 was I was a crossover shot. Uh no, seriously, right 1965 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:13.760 after g died they were looking for me anyway. That's 1966 01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:17.119 a wacky story. But No Deterior Rot was the worst 1967 01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:21.640 death metal band I ever saw. And it was funny 1968 01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:25.720 because we were like competing north like North Jersey versus 1969 01:54:26.039 --> 01:54:30.760 like the Jersey Shore death metal bands. Was like a competition, 1970 01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:37.359 and but No deterior Rot was the worst. But Deeterior 1971 01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:39.800 Rot went in to Big Blue Meenie Studio in Hackensack, 1972 01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:42.560 New Jersey, and they happened to book a bunch. They 1973 01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:46.359 spent thousands of dollars for that vomit that they put 1974 01:54:46.439 --> 01:54:48.880 on vinyl, and I was like, dude, this is the 1975 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:51.399 worst sounding thing. And I'm looking at it, and the 1976 01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:54.159 guy who owned the studio says to me, you know, 1977 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.239 I asked them not to put my studio's name on 1978 01:54:57.319 --> 01:55:05.199 that record. He said, at least, well, what you guys 1979 01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:14.560 are doing makes sense, like, you know, because if you 1980 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.880 listen to what I recorded there, I doubled my own 1981 01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:20.319 you know, like I actually had lyrics okay, and I 1982 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:22.520 doubled what I was doing like if I wanted to. 1983 01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:26.039 I didn't use any effects. It was just okay, I 1984 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.239 want my voice to be there. Let me do it again. 1985 01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:30.600 And I figured out a way. 1986 01:55:30.479 --> 01:55:30.840 To come on. 1987 01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:38.640 Yeah, that's the right way, right. But they probably spent 1988 01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:42.239 I think five grand on that in like ninety three 1989 01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:45.800 when we went to the studio right after them, and 1990 01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:48.039 they spent like five grand and that's that's a lot 1991 01:55:48.079 --> 01:55:51.520 of money in ninety three for a demo or an EP. Yeah, 1992 01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:54.880 and then they actually printed it on vinyl and cassettes 1993 01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.319 like they had to. You know, it looked professionally printed 1994 01:55:57.880 --> 01:56:00.600 because there was some it was it sent Tree Media 1995 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:05.680 or something was part of that deal or something like that, right, random, Yeah, 1996 01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:06.399 I think. 1997 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:08.640 So did they got they started getting more of those 1998 01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:11.119 like black death metal bands like later on, you know, 1999 01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:13.880 like the black and death metal or whatever you want 2000 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:14.119 to call it. 2001 01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:17.319 Oh yeah, But then it's like it was, you know 2002 01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:19.159 something that. 2003 01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:20.920 The Cheerior Rot. 2004 01:56:21.039 --> 01:56:22.760 They weren't like brutal Death. 2005 01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:26.279 I remember them being kind of just like they didn't 2006 01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.760 their vocals were terrible, like if I. 2007 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:31.439 Recall yeah, no, it was like it was like they 2008 01:56:31.520 --> 01:56:34.039 went to what do you call it? Like they looked 2009 01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:36.359 at Napalm Death and said, no, we can make that 2010 01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:36.960 way worse. 2011 01:56:39.279 --> 01:56:39.479 Yeah. 2012 01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:45.279 Yeah, so it was the grindcore thing kind of genre 2013 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:45.760 sort of. 2014 01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:49.079 It was like it was like what we used to 2015 01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:53.479 call the polka beat, you know, the whole like you know, 2016 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:56.439 the blast beat deal. We used to call that polka 2017 01:56:56.479 --> 01:57:00.239 beat because that's really what it was. Sped up that yeah, 2018 01:57:00.319 --> 01:57:04.560 you know, but really quick. So these guys literally every 2019 01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:10.359 song was dune, dune, done, done, done done, and this 2020 01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:14.720 guy would get on and it literally sounded like this. 2021 01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:23.039 That was it. 2022 01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:24.720 I couldn't understand the words. 2023 01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:25.840 That was it. 2024 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:28.640 Now there's one thing I cannot stand. 2025 01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:29.800 That was a full album. 2026 01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:36.159 I mean they can't understand the music really, not what 2027 01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:37.039 he just did. 2028 01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:38.159 I just did. 2029 01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:39.039 I just heard. 2030 01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:41.000 You don't understand what Chuck just said. 2031 01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:44.199 Oh that just done. 2032 01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:46.680 Mortal Decay, Chuck, that's another one. 2033 01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:47.840 Oh god? 2034 01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:52.039 Yeah yeah, okay, you know them? 2035 01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:52.880 Yeah? 2036 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:54.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, those Mortal Decay. 2037 01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:57.960 Yeah, they have a couple of good albums. I say, 2038 01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:00.840 you know that you got some good ones. 2039 01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:04.520 Definitely. Did you ever hear demoniccy. 2040 01:58:07.239 --> 01:58:07.920 One more time? 2041 01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:09.000 Demonicsy? 2042 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:11.279 No? 2043 01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:14.199 All right, Well they were big in Jersey for a 2044 01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:16.600 bit and they did the whole two bass players deal 2045 01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:19.720 for a bit there. I'll give you one last obscure 2046 01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:22.600 name though, because they were extremely talented and it kind 2047 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:32.279 of pissed me off, was Latshaw. You got to look 2048 01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:38.680 into them, especially their first demo. It's amazing. Uh, It's 2049 01:58:38.800 --> 01:58:40.840 it's really good. They were mad at the mix of 2050 01:58:40.920 --> 01:58:43.000 that thing, and I was like, I wish I could 2051 01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:46.399 do that. And they were rooming with Ripping Corpse in 2052 01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:49.000 the same See, there was a rehearsal studio in Asbury 2053 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:52.520 Park and at one point there was like a bunch 2054 01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:54.880 of these like bon Jovi, like you know, glam metal 2055 01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:58.239 guys that were using it as a practice space. 2056 01:58:59.079 --> 01:58:59.119 No. 2057 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:03.720 Seriously, this place had been around since the s well, yeah, 2058 01:59:03.800 --> 01:59:06.000 but this place had been around since the seventies, so 2059 01:59:06.319 --> 01:59:09.920 you know, Bruce Springsteen's metal band in air quotes Steele 2060 01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:14.960 Mill practiced in there, right, And like across across the 2061 01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:16.800 street there was a place called the Music Booth where 2062 01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:19.760 Sebastian Bach and and those guys from you know, skid Row, 2063 01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:22.880 which is more respectable than you know, John bon Homo. 2064 01:59:23.479 --> 01:59:28.800 But anyway, who the point is I hate that guy? 2065 01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:33.560 No, yeah, I'll tell you skid Rose second album, Slave 2066 01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:34.720 to the Grind or whatever. 2067 01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:35.840 Yes, that one is. 2068 01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:38.760 I think that's what's sold. That's his underrated album. 2069 01:59:38.920 --> 01:59:42.199 You're right, You're exactly right. And even though Sebastian Bach 2070 01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:44.439 is a jerk and deserved every time he got punched 2071 01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:47.840 out in a club in Jersey, I would tell you 2072 01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.119 that he had more talent than any of those guys. 2073 01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:54.399 Anyways, well, that early, that early, definitely third album with 2074 01:59:54.479 --> 01:59:56.560 the truck on it. That's actually kind of good too. 2075 01:59:56.680 --> 01:59:58.159 And then we know what happened to them. 2076 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:00.279 Well, On through the Night was a regular rock and 2077 02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:02.319 roll album, Yeah, definitely. 2078 02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:04.560 Yeah, Well didn't that guy lude his arm? And I 2079 02:00:04.720 --> 02:00:05.680 think that's what happened to. 2080 02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:08.840 Him, right, Well, he lost his arm after Pyromania, after 2081 02:00:08.920 --> 02:00:11.439 their big like right as their big success was hitting. 2082 02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:13.399 Then he got his arm cut off in that car accident. 2083 02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:17.039 But anyway, last, yeah, the last one I wanted to 2084 02:00:17.079 --> 02:00:19.119 mention to you, though I'm sitting here trying to think 2085 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:21.920 of Human Remains. That was the name of the band. 2086 02:00:23.359 --> 02:00:23.960 You ever heard. 2087 02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:26.640 I've heard them? Yeah, they were. They were weird. They 2088 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:28.159 were kind of ahead of their time. I think. 2089 02:00:28.399 --> 02:00:31.479 Yeah, Dave, Dave Whitty and those guys. There was weird 2090 02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:35.199 guitar moves that later on people got to hear and 2091 02:00:35.319 --> 02:00:38.800 rage against the machine, which is really weird because those 2092 02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:41.680 guys never met you know what I'm saying, Tom Morello 2093 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:48.199 never met Dave Witty. But somehow that whole that stuff 2094 02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:52.000 that they were doing with death metal, it ends up 2095 02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:53.640 in the rage against the me Like, think about that, 2096 02:00:53.800 --> 02:00:56.399 you know, those weird little I don't. 2097 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:58.640 Even Paberello ripped it off. I'm sure. 2098 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:01.920 Well it almost seems that way, doesn't it, Because that 2099 02:01:02.079 --> 02:01:04.760 stuff they were doing eighty seven, like when I got 2100 02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:06.359 out of jail when I was in high school. 2101 02:01:06.720 --> 02:01:08.560 That is that a technique you do with a pick, 2102 02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:10.359 like dragging across the strings? 2103 02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:11.119 Is that what that is? 2104 02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:11.399 No? 2105 02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:14.000 It's sort of like, Okay, look at it this way. 2106 02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:16.920 It's this is not a great description, but it'll give 2107 02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:19.199 you an idea, you know, like the Eddie van Halen 2108 02:01:19.279 --> 02:01:20.399 kind of hammer on stuff. 2109 02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:24.880 Yeah, so imagine you're talking about like the taps, right. 2110 02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:29.079 Yeah, okay, so imagine the taps okay, and like harmonics 2111 02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:32.960 and false harmonics. Okay, but here's the thing. You're also 2112 02:01:33.159 --> 02:01:37.479 using like say the switch or the knob to make 2113 02:01:37.560 --> 02:01:40.960 it so that you only hear part of it, and 2114 02:01:41.159 --> 02:01:45.199 it's done in a way where it sounds like it's 2115 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:48.960 not anywhere near random. It's you know what I mean, 2116 02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:50.439 like it's all in order. 2117 02:01:50.800 --> 02:01:53.279 Was he and it's super switch because he used to 2118 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.239 kill switch a lot, right Yeah, well. 2119 02:01:55.239 --> 02:01:59.039 Yeah, I really mute switch on his guitar, okay, top 2120 02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:01.079 by his palm or something. 2121 02:02:01.680 --> 02:02:03.800 Well, here's the weird thing is that he could do 2122 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:06.720 it with a kill switch or with a knob and 2123 02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:09.600 he would get the same result because he had so 2124 02:02:09.760 --> 02:02:12.479 practiced on it. It was weird because other guitarists used 2125 02:02:12.479 --> 02:02:15.359 to gather around and just like block him from being 2126 02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:17.319 seen on stage to try and watch what he was 2127 02:02:17.359 --> 02:02:20.640 doing because it was so weird. I'm not kidding. It's 2128 02:02:20.680 --> 02:02:23.119 like it's like less Claypool when when he was like, 2129 02:02:23.239 --> 02:02:26.359 you know, innovating the bass, this guy was doing weird 2130 02:02:26.399 --> 02:02:27.199 stuff with a guitar. 2131 02:02:29.239 --> 02:02:31.600 And yeah, what did uncle have to say about all 2132 02:02:31.640 --> 02:02:31.960 this year? 2133 02:02:32.279 --> 02:02:33.920 I don't know, Uncle, What do you think is this 2134 02:02:34.159 --> 02:02:35.479 interesting music conversation? 2135 02:02:35.880 --> 02:02:36.119 Uncle? 2136 02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:37.479 John Block? 2137 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:42.359 What I was thinking of a couple of others after 2138 02:02:42.439 --> 02:02:46.199 we had this conversation talking about this stuff, I had 2139 02:02:46.359 --> 02:02:49.720 thinking about red Zeppelin. 2140 02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:55.680 You know, I think Zeppelin, Red Zippelin. 2141 02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:56.560 How do you like them? 2142 02:02:58.880 --> 02:02:59.720 I love him? 2143 02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:00.520 Yeah, they're great. 2144 02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:02.760 I'm not a fan of lifted riffs. I'm sorry. 2145 02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:04.319 I listen to that. 2146 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:07.760 I love him, love him too. 2147 02:03:07.880 --> 02:03:08.319 He's good. 2148 02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:14.359 Well because because the way they sing that song, then 2149 02:03:14.439 --> 02:03:18.439 you think a minute, the one, the one, it's like 2150 02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:23.560 stepping up to a ladder, if you really think about 2151 02:03:23.560 --> 02:03:24.720 it and listening to that, I. 2152 02:03:24.800 --> 02:03:26.800 Believe the titles Ladder to Heaven. 2153 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:30.439 Yeah there, yeah, it's that's the name of it, and 2154 02:03:30.680 --> 02:03:31.479 and and and and. 2155 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:35.560 Ye why not you know what? 2156 02:03:35.880 --> 02:03:38.720 At least at least it's a it's it's a song 2157 02:03:38.880 --> 02:03:40.000 that you can understand. 2158 02:03:40.119 --> 02:03:42.439 I know. For one, for one, you know what I 2159 02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:43.479 would love to do though. 2160 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:45.479 One that you can understand it. 2161 02:03:46.680 --> 02:03:48.800 I have I have a great podcast idea. 2162 02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:50.079 Understand here. 2163 02:03:50.960 --> 02:03:54.960 I have a great podcast idea for you. Play Stairway 2164 02:03:54.960 --> 02:03:56.760 to Heaven for Uncle for like, you know, a couple 2165 02:03:57.039 --> 02:04:00.479 couple of clips, right, and then playing the song by 2166 02:04:00.600 --> 02:04:05.720 Pentagram that they ripped off for Stairway to Heaven. Please. Yes, 2167 02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:09.119 we'll do that, because I would love for Uncle to 2168 02:04:09.199 --> 02:04:11.800 sit and listen to here's the original band, and here's 2169 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:14.760 where the people that stole it, and because led Zeppelin 2170 02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:19.800 stole almost everything from somebody else they did, yes they did, 2171 02:04:20.119 --> 02:04:20.680 Yes they did. 2172 02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:21.479 Oh I didn't know that. 2173 02:04:22.439 --> 02:04:24.000 Oh well, okay, we'll do that. 2174 02:04:24.119 --> 02:04:24.520 I do that. 2175 02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:26.439 I would love for you to hear it, though, so 2176 02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:29.199 that you goat which one's better, the original or do 2177 02:04:29.279 --> 02:04:29.960 what they did with it? 2178 02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:38.079 Oh and not not all the original Uncle. 2179 02:04:42.359 --> 02:04:43.600 Testament or something like that. 2180 02:04:43.920 --> 02:04:48.359 Yeah, the Testament. Yeah. Yeah, I could play some death 2181 02:04:48.399 --> 02:04:50.680 metal and see what Uncle thinks of it. Yeah he 2182 02:04:51.279 --> 02:04:52.800 Uncle reacts to death Yeah. 2183 02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:56.199 Uncle, Yeah, you could get down with some testament. I 2184 02:04:56.279 --> 02:04:56.600 think that. 2185 02:04:57.880 --> 02:04:59.239 Because what I look for. 2186 02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:06.520 The singing that sings the song beat sakes, because half these. 2187 02:05:06.880 --> 02:05:08.399 Sing is hammer smash pace. 2188 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:11.600 They don't sling the pomp a song and you can't 2189 02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:12.439 understand it. 2190 02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:14.800 I know when you hear this is what I'm talking. 2191 02:05:15.039 --> 02:05:18.439 Uncle wants to hear the lyrics of grotesque impalement. He 2192 02:05:18.520 --> 02:05:21.279 wants to understand, he wants to hear clearly what's going on. 2193 02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:24.520 Yeah, yeah, that's my point, that's my thought. 2194 02:05:25.359 --> 02:05:28.520 That makes sense that what everybody is doing talking about 2195 02:05:28.680 --> 02:05:30.199 right now, not too much ask for. 2196 02:05:30.520 --> 02:05:31.960 This is what I'm asking. 2197 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:36.319 That's it. Well, well simple, we'll make the right calls 2198 02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:37.680 and we'll make sure that that happens. 2199 02:05:37.720 --> 02:05:38.680 I think we could do that. 2200 02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:43.479 I will mention that Creative Accents and Count Pepper have 2201 02:05:43.600 --> 02:05:46.880 been in the chat. Sorry, we haven't too much there. 2202 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:50.439 Let's see what they have to say. Yeah, well, I 2203 02:05:50.560 --> 02:05:52.720 know that Count Pepper was saying earlier that he was 2204 02:05:52.840 --> 02:05:54.960 in a glam metal band at one point and that 2205 02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:57.840 perhaps we would beat him up for it, and he was. 2206 02:05:57.960 --> 02:05:59.720 He feels a little ashamed of that, but he was 2207 02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:01.680 just that out there that at one point he was 2208 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:02.319 in one of them. 2209 02:06:02.840 --> 02:06:05.560 That's kind of interesting. Oh, I didn't know that. 2210 02:06:06.760 --> 02:06:10.760 My friend's a good friend of mine. His cousin is 2211 02:06:11.079 --> 02:06:13.319 the basis for Warren. I mean, he's telling me these 2212 02:06:13.359 --> 02:06:16.560 guys they all dressed like literally women. They dressed like women, 2213 02:06:16.840 --> 02:06:19.279 but they were getting more chicks than you could ever imagine. Bro, 2214 02:06:19.640 --> 02:06:24.720 it's wild, you know, like back in the day, literally 2215 02:06:25.039 --> 02:06:28.239 looks like a woman goes out. He's the hottest chicks 2216 02:06:28.279 --> 02:06:29.159 you could ever imagine. 2217 02:06:31.159 --> 02:06:32.439 But who go figure? 2218 02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:37.279 See you know Twiggy Ramerez literally was walking around in 2219 02:06:37.359 --> 02:06:39.239 a dress. And I mean I knew three of his 2220 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:42.039 regular girls in Jersey. I mean, you know, what are 2221 02:06:42.039 --> 02:06:42.479 you gonna do? 2222 02:06:43.680 --> 02:06:43.920 Wow? 2223 02:06:44.039 --> 02:06:49.159 Yeah, yeah, I don't know if wild? Yeah, I don't know. 2224 02:06:49.239 --> 02:06:53.119 I never that one. Never never wrapped my head around 2225 02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:53.439 that one. 2226 02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:55.479 No, I would never touch those women. I'll tell you that, 2227 02:06:55.760 --> 02:07:00.960 but uh, god. 2228 02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:02.119 Knows, I don't think too much. 2229 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:03.199 Yeah. 2230 02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:07.239 Oh man, Yeah, well this has been a great episode. Man, 2231 02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:10.239 this is so exciting. Random. I want to thank you 2232 02:07:10.319 --> 02:07:12.800 again for not just calling in, but for all the 2233 02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:15.720 awesome you sent me death metal stuff, like stickers in 2234 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:18.039 the mail, you sent me shirts in the mail, you 2235 02:07:18.159 --> 02:07:19.960 sent me like so much cool stuff over the year. 2236 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:23.399 So I am gonna legitimately take this opportunity say thank you. 2237 02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:24.520 Thanks man. 2238 02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:26.560 That's it's it's really cool. Appreciate it. 2239 02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:30.359 Yeah, man, thank you for the shot. Class that was great. 2240 02:07:30.399 --> 02:07:30.840 I saw that. 2241 02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:32.439 It totally caught me by surprise. 2242 02:07:32.520 --> 02:07:33.239 I was like, what is this? 2243 02:07:34.479 --> 02:07:35.920 And in honor of. 2244 02:07:36.079 --> 02:07:39.800 Yeah, I was shot just opening up the package. 2245 02:07:40.239 --> 02:07:42.520 Right here, here's where we're gonna was shocked. 2246 02:07:42.880 --> 02:07:44.800 Here's shot in drunk place. 2247 02:07:45.000 --> 02:07:46.760 Right now, here's where we're going to close out the show. 2248 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:49.039 But in honor of the fact that random death medaler 2249 02:07:49.119 --> 02:07:52.439 called in, uh, I'm gonna add at right after the 2250 02:07:52.720 --> 02:07:58.279 Uncle outro, uh, we're going to play a randomly selected 2251 02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:00.600 uh metal track from my person in the library. 2252 02:08:02.199 --> 02:08:09.399 Nice okayisting and we can hear it. The one's gonna soundlin. 2253 02:08:10.560 --> 02:08:11.560 Yeah, very exciting. 2254 02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:16.800 We're the witness of a good one, not a sound one. 2255 02:08:17.319 --> 02:08:20.439 Oh yeah, we have to listen. Well, on the next show, 2256 02:08:20.479 --> 02:08:23.199 we'll have to come back uncle and rate Chuck's song 2257 02:08:23.319 --> 02:08:23.840 from one day. 2258 02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:24.479 Ye yah. 2259 02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:27.600 So we do that on the next show, the next 2260 02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:29.920 show when I get back. But for now, we better 2261 02:08:30.000 --> 02:08:32.560 get to shout outs since we do have. I guess 2262 02:08:33.119 --> 02:08:35.159 we want to do shout outs Uncle before we wrap 2263 02:08:35.239 --> 02:08:35.720 this thing up. 2264 02:08:36.000 --> 02:08:37.359 You know who is gets first. 2265 02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:38.520 He's done it. 2266 02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:41.279 He was the first one calling. He gets to call. 2267 02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:43.319 He gets the shadow first. 2268 02:08:43.960 --> 02:08:47.319 All right, random man, you up, you got for shout outs. 2269 02:08:47.880 --> 02:08:50.119 What was that time shout outs? 2270 02:08:52.039 --> 02:08:59.479 True? Yeah you're not okay. 2271 02:08:59.760 --> 02:09:01.399 Yeah, to the world, to everybody in. 2272 02:09:01.399 --> 02:09:04.439 The world, don't let don't let the bastards grind you down. 2273 02:09:04.560 --> 02:09:06.800 Whatever you know, one day at a time. 2274 02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:10.239 Nice, all right, I like it. 2275 02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:12.039 Shantoun I have food. 2276 02:09:12.359 --> 02:09:13.840 That's the best shout out you've heard. 2277 02:09:14.000 --> 02:09:19.119 If I'm a guy that talks hot nettle hot metal, 2278 02:09:19.640 --> 02:09:20.039 I mean. 2279 02:09:21.479 --> 02:09:25.680 Hot metal, straight from the straight from the foundry. Yeah, 2280 02:09:29.239 --> 02:09:31.800 all right, well, random, thank you so much. Man. Feel 2281 02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:35.319 free to call in any time. Yeah, it's it's genuinely 2282 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:36.399 exciting to talk to you. Man. 2283 02:09:36.479 --> 02:09:43.159 Take think of something interesting to add to the conversation. 2284 02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:47.279 I will all right, all right, and please do man anytime. 2285 02:09:47.359 --> 02:09:49.239 You know the number. So thank you so much. 2286 02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:51.119 Uncle. 2287 02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:52.199 Do you want to give a shout out? 2288 02:09:52.439 --> 02:09:56.039 You got one many shout out to my little people. 2289 02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:00.399 And the out of town is And I'm the same 2290 02:10:00.720 --> 02:10:07.399 planche listening that Channa, I mean that that cola tonight. 2291 02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:11.359 Yeah, that was that chick said shut out. Damn. 2292 02:10:12.239 --> 02:10:14.159 I guess I'll do a quick shout out to all 2293 02:10:14.239 --> 02:10:16.600 the kids that are actually listening to death metal. Now 2294 02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:19.159 I know that they're going back and listening to old stuff, 2295 02:10:19.279 --> 02:10:23.520 and it's crazy that shout out. And I have seen 2296 02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:28.600 videos of Dying Fetus playing shows I think at like 2297 02:10:28.680 --> 02:10:31.800 festivals and stuff, and the size of the crowd blows 2298 02:10:32.039 --> 02:10:35.279 my mind now. So it's it's amazing what's happening these 2299 02:10:35.399 --> 02:10:37.840 days that in almost unbelievable. 2300 02:10:38.079 --> 02:10:42.479 One other questions in the carnivals that we go to 2301 02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:49.199 the carnivals, we get these bands, at least we can 2302 02:10:49.399 --> 02:10:50.159 understand them. 2303 02:10:50.720 --> 02:10:52.600 I mean, the last one we went to. 2304 02:10:53.600 --> 02:10:57.039 At the Center point of Fire, it was this one 2305 02:10:57.159 --> 02:10:59.239 band and I could understand them. 2306 02:11:00.239 --> 02:11:02.560 Well, shout out to them, to the shout out to 2307 02:11:02.640 --> 02:11:05.560 the bands we understand. Yeah, yeah, that's chuck. Did you 2308 02:11:05.600 --> 02:11:06.720 want to do a shout out real quick? 2309 02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:07.159 You want to? 2310 02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:10.760 No, I'm good, But I just appreciate the fact that 2311 02:11:10.920 --> 02:11:14.159 random death meeddler called in, and I appreciate everybody listening. 2312 02:11:14.399 --> 02:11:15.159 Thank you so much. 2313 02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:19.479 Very cool, have fun show, very fun show. That's okay, 2314 02:11:19.880 --> 02:11:23.119 So we I guess with that. Uncle theepodcast dot Com 2315 02:11:23.319 --> 02:11:25.880 live on ochelly dot com every Friday night at Uncle 2316 02:11:25.960 --> 02:11:28.039 Podcasts and all the social media is a tick tack 2317 02:11:28.119 --> 02:11:28.399 and all that. 2318 02:11:29.439 --> 02:11:32.119 Don't you bring us on home prettily three. 2319 02:11:33.079 --> 02:11:39.039 Nine nine nine over and watch out for Mike text 2320 02:11:39.359 --> 02:11:45.600 in the tank form for this man ut play with 2321 02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:50.119 my ticktat my tic tac man. 2322 02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:51.600 Yeah, watch out for that. 2323 02:11:51.840 --> 02:11:53.840 Yeah, watch out for the tik tak. We don't hand 2324 02:11:53.880 --> 02:11:54.840 that out tonight, Doe. 2325 02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:59.479 But really all right, we'll see you next time. 2326 02:12:09.600 --> 02:12:15.439 Episode roun the Aces Worryboard Hotel today. 2327 02:12:19.000 --> 02:12:19.840 So let's. 2328 02:12:44.479 --> 02:12:51.479 That's how you try trying to to the export boys 2329 02:12:52.039 --> 02:13:09.600 the wo all you can restore the yard stock or. 2330 02:13:09.720 --> 02:13:20.800 Gard se sorts us good show and they stick there, yaways, 2331 02:13:21.479 --> 02:13:32.439 I says staunch. The two yours just stay a boy school, 2332 02:13:39.199 --> 02:13:40.119 but you have a garde. 2333 02:13:40.319 --> 02:13:42.960 So that's all. It's Holly over. 2334 02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:47.800 That Judge, I got a god saw that CHUSI and 2335 02:13:48.119 --> 02:13:49.760 joy A Judge. 2336 02:13:55.960 --> 02:14:22.439 I shot h joy I love right Jocio. They side 2337 02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:40.800 sad sending some dogs chase South based like yo myself, 2338 02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:43.840 Ye right, sir. 2339 02:14:55.359 --> 02:14:55.640 Joh. 2340 02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:23.199 The no wasting for anything yes as no not so 2341 02:15:24.520 --> 02:15:27.840 so works on soda, I say,