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<v Speaker 1>Red letter, yellow letter or whatever. Right the warm up

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth red letter, yellow letter or something. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon. Hey guys, Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're on episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you want to say, Welcome to a Strange Thing

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<v Speaker 2>podcast on I am Mike and I'm Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're thirty seconds in and I think we already

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<v Speaker 1>need a beer break. I noticed you suck that one

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<v Speaker 1>right down. Yep. Yeah, we've been chatting. We have.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking off Mike. We should have saved some

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<v Speaker 2>of that because that was pretty good conversation that was

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<v Speaker 2>going on right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So I noticed you sounded a little scruffy.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a little scruffy. Had pretty not gnarly cold

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, sinus thing not COVID, not COVID. I

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<v Speaker 1>got tested midnight two days ago. It sucked. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed my voice is a little scruffy little Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going the smoke lung. I know, smoker's lung.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible forest fires all around. You know, we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>west and there is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was just looking at a compass in my

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<v Speaker 1>head or northwest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there are tons of fires in California and

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<v Speaker 2>in Nevada and in Oregon and in Idaho and in

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<v Speaker 2>Wyoming and Montana. Fires everywhere, and the smoke here is horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been in that red zone for like the

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<v Speaker 2>last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus it is freaking hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's got like a couple of things all adding up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been like one hundred and six degrees. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not every day, but it's been above one hundred. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly ninety five percent of.

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<v Speaker 1>The last Today was one of the coolest days we've

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<v Speaker 1>had in a while, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was still like ninety seven and very humid.

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<v Speaker 1>It was humid because it rained this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked three miles in that along a.

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<v Speaker 1>River uphill both ways. No, but by a river, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was like humid plus extra humid. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>bet the river keeps it nice and cool. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a little breeze and a little bit of shade from

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<v Speaker 1>the trees. It was nice. But yes, I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was schetty. What a problem I had to take a

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<v Speaker 1>walk by a river today.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, it's schetti. It's part of my rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to do exercise because of my situation that

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<v Speaker 2>I described in the last podcast. Right, So, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to exercise a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some cardio in, so let's do a little cardio

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<v Speaker 1>walk over, yeah, grab a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be like, you know, thirty steps.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get those thirty steps in. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back. But you're a pedometer on pometer. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how far is it to my we'll count, we'll count,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll come back with the report. I'm thinking twenty steps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with well to the kitchen or to

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<v Speaker 1>get the beer and come back just to the area

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going to get the beer. Oh, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty four okay, thirty four for you, twenty to me

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm stopping at the countertop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, ready break. I actually forgot to count

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<v Speaker 1>about halfway. But when I walked from here to the garage,

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<v Speaker 1>it was seventeen steps. So if you multiply by two,

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<v Speaker 1>that's thirty four. That's the number. So you're pretty close.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just got to say when I walked to

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<v Speaker 2>where I was going to walk to, it was exactly

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<v Speaker 2>twenty steps.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should have defined what death step was

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<v Speaker 1>because you could have been like large step, large step,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're at like ten and you're halfway there, so

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<v Speaker 1>you cut them in half. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of think that, you know, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>not purposefully, I might have, you know, calibrated my steps

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<v Speaker 2>a little longer shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would come out about right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to admit I could have stopped on

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<v Speaker 2>the one side of the island, but I took three

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<v Speaker 2>more steps around it so that I could end at twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you made it to twenty where you were,

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<v Speaker 1>and I made it to seventeen where I went, well

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<v Speaker 1>you steps, Well I was doing stride like a normal stride.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's because you were trying to make it equal

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four there and back, So you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were trying trying to make a very calibrated step that

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<v Speaker 1>was the same every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm saying you still missed it because you hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>gone into the garage yet, which was probably another four

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<v Speaker 2>steps each way.

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<v Speaker 1>We play what we plus thirty four the area where

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<v Speaker 1>we get our drink, which is the fridge. Well mine

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<v Speaker 1>was from the garage, and then I changed my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's the way it works. Anyway, we were calling

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<v Speaker 1>get beer, let's just say we were in the ballpark, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got a refresher beer and whatever beverage of

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<v Speaker 2>choice that we wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I am myself am having a It's the vodka Tonic

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<v Speaker 1>with a lime wedge in a stemless wine glass and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of eyes. Are you having an a line twist? No,

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not that fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm having my usual go to, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>little Irish whisky instead of Powers. This time, I'm drinking

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<v Speaker 2>a little bush Mill because it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like six bucks off. It was great deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've got in my other hand, double fist

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<v Speaker 2>my Guinness Genuine Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>In a genuine Guinness cup.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't a genuine Guinness cup. And it's also because

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of a low carb it fits within

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<v Speaker 2>my semi keto low carb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, lifestyle cool cool cool cool cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so good times.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we going to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so last week we started talking about strange artifacts

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<v Speaker 2>and we kicked it off, if you remember, right with

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<v Speaker 2>the Nampa figurine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. So basically just a really quick recap.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen ninety something, around eighteen ay, eighteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>they were digging a well, and they were using this

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, pile driver kind of well drilling machine apparatus,

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<v Speaker 2>chunker probably steam.

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<v Speaker 1>Powered, steam powered junker, well con chunker couchune.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they got you know, way deep down into

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<v Speaker 2>an area that they called the Pleistocene region of sediment,

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<v Speaker 2>which is anywhere from two hundred and fifty million to

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<v Speaker 2>well twelve thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of anti climactic.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, two hundred and fifty million all the way to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twelve thousand BC. That's a big chunkle of time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, that's that's not very that's not very specific.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's like when when we have Sunday dinner

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<v Speaker 1>at your house, like what time should we show up?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like after naps? Yeah, it's nebulous. Well my

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<v Speaker 1>kid could wake up anytime between nap time and four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to define that better. Yeah yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in a similar way, so there was a layer

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<v Speaker 2>of sediment that they called the what was it Hagerman layer.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was Hagerman fossil bed, but there was oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Glen's Fairy formation. So the Glenn's Fairy

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<v Speaker 2>formation is as a strata layer deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So they estimate that that's, oh my gosh, what was that.

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<v Speaker 2>But they estimate that that area underneath the ground is

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<v Speaker 2>probably about three hundred million years old. Well, they pump

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<v Speaker 2>out of this well drilling machine this little tiny figurine

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of made of clay and some other weird sediment.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing was is that humans aren't supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Around that long to make figurines, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if it wasn't some kind of hoax, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of people think that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a hoax, then this thing totally bankrupts the whole Darwinian

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<v Speaker 2>model of human evolution and the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 2>humans have been on the earth. Right, Either that or

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<v Speaker 2>if it is really really really that old, then they

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<v Speaker 2>were around three hundred million years ago humans were. Or

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not that then it means that the earth

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<v Speaker 2>is young, and then that layer is not really that

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<v Speaker 2>old that old. So anyway, it breaks the scientific conventions

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<v Speaker 2>that are out the old that's accepted. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we're calling it strange artifacts, because there are it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just the you know, the namp of figurine. There

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<v Speaker 2>are tons of these things that are being found and

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<v Speaker 2>have been found that kind of fly in the face

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<v Speaker 2>of that scientific status quo that that aging and and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I thought that was a strange thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And plus, because I have kind of a religious background,

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<v Speaker 2>I had always kind of been taught like these these

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<v Speaker 2>other kind of ideas about how old the earth is,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I thought it was fascinating. And so, like

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<v Speaker 2>we said in our last podcast, we're not gonna lobby

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<v Speaker 2>for any position. We're just going to throw these things

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<v Speaker 2>out there and if you're interested, do a little research

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<v Speaker 2>and try to explain why these things exist. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are some of these little artifacts that you found?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we started out with the nampit figurine because

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<v Speaker 2>it is very close.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ten miles away, and we did our on

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones tour there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We rode the motorcycles around. We've tried to find the

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<v Speaker 2>actual location where the well was. Yep, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>hard to do, but we did it because we are

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<v Speaker 2>all about the investigation. Oh yeah, yeah, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>go out.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, we had no fun at the Masonic Lodge

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<v Speaker 1>bar eating Klamari rings, looking at beautiful waitresses, bar waitresses.

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<v Speaker 2>It was torture.

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<v Speaker 1>It were so gross gross. Yeah, no they were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very attractive ladies in case they Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated their feminine forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Yeah, but my wife's gonna slap me

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. No, no, no, I never mind. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one thing that I think. My wife listens.

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<v Speaker 2>But honey, I am an artist. I look at esthetic beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't register them as anything other than the pure

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<v Speaker 2>aesthetics of their feminine form. Sweet, just just disclaim her there.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's our next topic? What's their next thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Not our topic, but our next next Well, there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these kind of objects, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we should just throw out a few of these and

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<v Speaker 2>people can look them up. We're not going to go into,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, too much detail, because it would take forever,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are literally hundreds of these things, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should kind of pepper these not only

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<v Speaker 2>with maybe artifacts, but with other kind of anomalies that

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<v Speaker 2>make you go, wait a minute, something's off on this

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<v Speaker 2>time scale. Whatever you want to attribute that to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your prerogative. Sweet, no progody. So what's the next one?

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<v Speaker 2>So the next one and no particular order on these, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The next one I'm thinking about is something called the

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think of?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, London call the song but with hammer?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you thinking like British accents and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or like a sweet kind of classic rock band called

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<v Speaker 1>London Hammer? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you'd be wrong on all counts. So this

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<v Speaker 2>actually took place in a place called London, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like in the nineteen thirties. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>was this wooden thing sticking out of the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Would protruding from rock?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Would protruding from rock?

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<v Speaker 2>So they go up and there's like this rock you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just call it a nodule, nodule, and and they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of get pulling on this piece of wood that's

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<v Speaker 2>sticking out, you know, like is it a root?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>But it seemed to have like a very definitive kind

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of Texans were out yanking on the

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, a male and a female yankin on the wood

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<v Speaker 2>well in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is text, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're they're out there, they see this thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>end up actually removing the nodule from the outcropping of rocks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got this like stone that's got this like

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<v Speaker 2>wooden handle sticking out of the you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a huge maybe you know, maybe ten inches in

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<v Speaker 2>and they sit it there for quite a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>then eventually, some day, some way, somebody decides, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what that wooden handle is connected.

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<v Speaker 1>To, Grandpa have. Yeah, so they.

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<v Speaker 2>Smack it and crack it and they open it up

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<v Speaker 2>and inside, lo and behold is an iron hammer head.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks like when they open it up, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like this obviously man made iron shape of a hammerhead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you brought the pig sture up. Yeah, it's a hammer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hammer, and they're connected through like an islet

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<v Speaker 2>in the iron is a wooden handle, And that was

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<v Speaker 2>what was protruding.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the side of this nodule. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So the problem was this sedimentary layer of rock outcropping

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to be over three hundred million years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So how in the world could there be a man

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<v Speaker 2>made object like a hammer inside of a rock nodule

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<v Speaker 2>that's three hundred million years old?

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<v Speaker 1>So what did they find it?

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen thirty eight? And then they cracked it open?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was in nineteen forty six or nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven. Oh, okay, yeah, So I mean this is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's almost what eighty years ago. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>while somewhere, yeah, somewhere there. And and so they open

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<v Speaker 2>it up, and this thing's been around a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>debate on its authenticity, I think, and now it resides

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<v Speaker 2>in like a creation research institute museum, okay, because of

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<v Speaker 2>course they grab onto it and say, aha, see mankind

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<v Speaker 2>was around when you say this rock was three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and some million years old.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, somebody was that old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know they want to say, no, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like seven thousand years ago, and they have their

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<v Speaker 2>own reasons for that belief, and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>jump into that. That would be a whole nother topic

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe call it strange timelines or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but on this one, we're just throwing out these

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<v Speaker 2>things that they're kind of shaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Up the status quo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's a truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a super U, sounds like a rice burger.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, there is this rock that had this hammer

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly in it, and I don't know how you would

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<v Speaker 2>fake it. I mean, I'm looking at the photograph of

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<v Speaker 2>it right now, and there are you know, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>encased inside of a rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a hammer. Yeah, it's like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>mallet style hammer inside of a rock. Yeah. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>like the the like kind of what do you call

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<v Speaker 1>it an islet where the wood goes through and the

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<v Speaker 1>wood is like wedged apart with like some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>insert and it swells and hits the outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>islet and that doesn't allow it to move up.

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<v Speaker 2>The handle keeps it and keeps it locked on, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about it to me that's striking isn't that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's this wooden thing sitting on like a

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<v Speaker 2>broken open rock, but that the actual wood handle goes

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<v Speaker 2>through the rock where it's broken. It's not like on

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<v Speaker 2>top of it. It actually is going into the rock

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<v Speaker 2>and out the other side. And to me that that

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<v Speaker 2>would be like a major kind of construction. You'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to get in there with little chisels and like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to the minute detail, go in there and chisel out

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<v Speaker 2>something to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fake the passage. Yeah. Yeah, well even then if it

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<v Speaker 1>came out the way it did, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>like chisel your way through with the wood and then

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<v Speaker 1>like drill another hole through the top right and like

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<v Speaker 1>pour the uh the cast iron molten liquid into the

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<v Speaker 1>casting and be a whole or deal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, it's like it's intriguing. Now. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could totally be a fake. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>you build a rock around an object like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's say that it was somehow that maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>like dropped and then you know, some kind of material

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<v Speaker 2>flooded in, like a crazy fire happened or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like and then it dried up and

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<v Speaker 2>under some kind of pressure from whatever weights or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it formed some kind of rock like structure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you could go that route. I think the critics that

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<v Speaker 2>say that this thing is not that old do so

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<v Speaker 2>because they basically say, no, it can't be that old

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<v Speaker 2>because humans weren't around. But then there are other things

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<v Speaker 2>about it that say no, this is already like turning

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<v Speaker 2>to coal. That the wood is turning to coal. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like selective testing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I mean, you can make up

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<v Speaker 2>your own mind on it. But whatever it is, it

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<v Speaker 2>throws a giant monkey rich or in this case a

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<v Speaker 2>hammer a rock cammer into the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny because well, not funny, but it reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of I'll be out hunting sometimes there's a certain area

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<v Speaker 1>I go pretty regularly, but when you be hiking, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see like an old maybe an old cabin, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like civilization that's been long expired kind of seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you'll be hiking off the trail out in

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<v Speaker 1>the I mean you kind of have that sense of

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever stepped here, you know, like you're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. And then you've got like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>tin like a tin can that's like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to describe it. I couldn't even tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of can. It would be like an oval almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a sardine tin can and it's like in a

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<v Speaker 1>tree and it's all rusted out, and it's like actually

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<v Speaker 1>growing into.

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<v Speaker 2>The tree, grew around it or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That picture kind of gives me that same vibe, like what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like why did he stick that can the

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<v Speaker 1>way he did or she I guess less likely, but

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<v Speaker 1>potentially she into the tree or maybe even like tack

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<v Speaker 1>it or nail it to the tree when they did,

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<v Speaker 1>like was it a marker? And then and then the

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<v Speaker 1>tree kind of grew around it. But then when you're

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<v Speaker 1>walking by and you catch a glimmer of rust inside

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<v Speaker 1>the tree, you're like, what in the world And you

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<v Speaker 1>look closer and it's like a metal tin. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see the the where the old like imprinted label was

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. It's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is weird. Well, and you know the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about this stuff that we're talking about, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about two so far, but there are hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of these things and maybe even thousands, So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that's just like totally fringe, you know, that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some weird anomaly that happened once or twice,

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<v Speaker 2>but there have been hundreds of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Found that make.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of question the rationalization of time, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least how old mankind is on the planet. And I

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<v Speaker 2>find it very fascinating. It is very very strange because

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as you start poking that bear, you start

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<v Speaker 2>poking the bear of how old is the earth or

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<v Speaker 2>how long has mankind been on the earth, then you

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<v Speaker 2>open up this big can of worms and everybody freaks out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since I was little, i've been I've always thought

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<v Speaker 1>being kind was ten thousand years old. And that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Aladdin movie Aladdin where they rubbed lamp and that

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<v Speaker 1>Genie comes out and he's like, ten thousand years it

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<v Speaker 1>can be such a crick in the neck. Why ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years will give you such a crick in the

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<v Speaker 1>neck like that? So that shaped you. That's that's where

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<v Speaker 1>my timeline comes from. A Disney channel mostly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if you look at this stuff, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just as valid as a lot of things, because

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really screwed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if this is true, then it screws up

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<v Speaker 2>the model that's taught in every university, in high school

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<v Speaker 2>in the country or in the world. And if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not messed up, then you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>weird people runing out making strange, deceptive things to try

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<v Speaker 2>to throw off something. So it's it's one conspiracy or

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so what's the next deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I mean there's we're just gonna go over

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<v Speaker 2>a few If you are really interested in this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>get on the line and just google like a strange

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<v Speaker 2>a strange thing dot com. You could do that, or

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<v Speaker 2>you could just say, you know, just look up strange

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<v Speaker 2>artifacts that.

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<v Speaker 1>Less subjective search and what are some strange artifacts that

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not change the way people think about

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of the earth and or Asian search. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be a little biased search. Yeah, it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe just look up artifacts that argue for how

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<v Speaker 2>long man has been on the planet or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they call this this group of artifacts so you

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<v Speaker 1>said it earlier, like uh, forbidden or oh they.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it, you know, forbidden archaeology because the book Forbidden Archaeology.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually about a book I see.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy's argument is that you know, this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is forbidden because it basically says that mankind has been

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<v Speaker 2>around a lot longer than you think and walked with

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<v Speaker 2>the dinosaurs. But we'll get into some of that too,

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<v Speaker 2>because not only do we have artifacts, but we also

428
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<v Speaker 2>have like archaeological evidence that people find, like human foot

429
00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.480
<v Speaker 2>prints with dinosaur footprints, and you know, if that just

430
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.799
<v Speaker 2>happened once, you know, you could explain it away. It's like,

431
00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a baby dinosaur that had like, you know,

432
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a certain kind of footprint walking by like a giant

433
00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.559
<v Speaker 2>what do they call those long necks and veggiosaurs from

434
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<v Speaker 2>They say that in the Jurassic Park. Yeah, but anyway,

435
00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>so maybe one of those was walking alongside a smaller

436
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.240
<v Speaker 2>dinosaur that had a footprint and then it got washed

437
00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>out and then kind of made.

438
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It look human.

439
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.599
<v Speaker 2>But if that was the case, then you got a

440
00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>problem because there are hundreds of those kinds of footprints found,

441
00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:37.160
<v Speaker 2>some with like a human footprint that's obviously stepped on

442
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:38.519
<v Speaker 2>by a dinosaur footprint.

443
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.559
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. And I saw that scene in Jurassic Park. Yeah,

444
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<v Speaker 1>there you go.

445
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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean it's weird stuff. But anyway, we're not

446
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<v Speaker 2>talking about that stuff yet. We're talking about artifacts.

447
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do want to just take a minute

448
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<v Speaker 1>talk about Jurassic Park, okay, and how it is my

449
00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:56.400
<v Speaker 1>favorite movie series of all time, it is really good.

450
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<v Speaker 1>So you start with the first one. You got the

451
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<v Speaker 1>two kids going to see Grandpa at the Jurassic Park.

452
00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You've got the Chaos what do they call them, chaos chaos,

453
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Chaos theory, Chaos theory guy, which is a gold Bloom,

454
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Goldbloom, and and and and and it's a it's

455
00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>amazing you know that guy. And then you've got the

456
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>other guy who's an archaeologist. And then you've got the

457
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the the lawyer, and they're all like getting this thing together.

458
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.880
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. And then you've got the next couple that

459
00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 1>aren't that great. And then you've got the Chris Pratt ones,

460
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.279
<v Speaker 1>which are really good, and then the newest Chris Pratt one,

461
00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like a lot of the scenes

462
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.440
<v Speaker 1>call back to the original one. And then you've got

463
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the Camp Cretaceous TV Show, which is a cartoon which

464
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 1>calls back basically all of the Chris Pratt movies, different

465
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>storyline yep. And then it's a bunch of kids, and

466
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<v Speaker 1>then you got scenes from the old movie happening in

467
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<v Speaker 1>the Camp Cretaceous cartoon, like they like called back the rafter,

468
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>like tapping on the glass and trying to open the

469
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>door knob and.

470
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<v Speaker 2>You know the steamer.

471
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<v Speaker 1>I love. Jurassic Park is my favorite TV C. It

472
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>is jeeps, Yeah, jeeps and jeeps are dope in motorcycles.

473
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Motorcycle a Norton motorcycle through the forest, likes with velociraptors, pratt.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Hot Onto Yeah yeah, breezy some good ship ro good stuff.

475
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, anyway, my ranstone, what's next? Okay, Yeah, let's go

476
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<v Speaker 1>to the next artifact.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Some dinosaurs stuff I think we should talk about next.

478
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but

479
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<v Speaker 2>the dinosaurs of Akambarrow akham Borrow a Cambarrow. Yeah, and Spanish,

480
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<v Speaker 2>I think it is Spanish.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly these were found. These are like a collection of objects.

483
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<v Speaker 2>They estimate the ages anywhere from three to six thousand

484
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:05.400
<v Speaker 2>years ago, right, okay, And there are over thirty three

485
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand of these figurines that were found, these artifacts, the artifacts, right.

486
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>And the story goes that there was this guy I

487
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>can't even pronounce his name. He was a German dude,

488
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.839
<v Speaker 2>and he was in Mexico. It's right there, you see it,

489
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<v Speaker 2>Waldemar jultrud.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Yard of my hushword something like that's my guess, that's

491
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<v Speaker 1>beyond of my hush word.

492
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he was a hardware merchant and he was

493
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<v Speaker 2>in Acambaro, Mexico, and he was riding his horse on

494
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>a place called Alturo and he spotted some of these

495
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>partially exposed ceramic or stone objects that were half buried

496
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.799
<v Speaker 2>in the dirt, supposedly, and he started digging them out

497
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 2>and there were just a buttload of him. But the

498
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 2>strange thing is that these things were in the shapes

499
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<v Speaker 2>of dinosaurs. I mean, not like just one dynast but

500
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>like they were all kinds.

501
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>So what was what year was this? Uh, just happened

502
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>in like a nineteen forties and mid nineteen forty something

503
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. They had some dinosaur knowledge at that point.

504
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So if somebody wanted to fake these things,

505
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they probably could find books or illustrations of

506
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:23.279
<v Speaker 2>what these dinosaurs were.

507
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Supposed to look like in nineteen forty four.

508
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But these were dated as far as like the stratification

509
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 2>of the surrounding you know, rock and soil at three

510
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>thousand to six thousand years old. Plus the sheer volume

511
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>of these things. It wasn't like there was a dozen

512
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 2>or two dozen. Then somebody went out there and made

513
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>what would you say, thirty three thousand, thirty over thirty

514
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 2>three thousand, almost thirty four thousand different objects. Yeah, that's

515
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of of all of these things. His hands

516
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 2>would have been tired if he was himself. And so

517
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the problem is if they're that old, say they're three

518
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:01.039
<v Speaker 2>thousand years old, this is way before the idea of

519
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>dinosaurs and evolutionary theory came along. So how would they

520
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have known, whoever these people were three thousand years ago

521
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 2>to six thousand years ago, how would they know what

522
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a dinosaur look like to make them out of ceramic

523
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>or clay? And so that's the big kind of question

524
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 2>mark on this. Now, of course modern scientists said, no,

525
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>this is a big fake thing, you know, it's more

526
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>modern and somebody did it there.

527
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>As a hoax.

528
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Well they have to say that because if they don't

529
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>say that, then you've got the problem that somehow people

530
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>three thousand years ago knew and were aware of what

531
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>dinosaurs were like.

532
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, But if you're a person that doesn't believe the

533
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>typical timeline, then you kind of have to say the

534
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>world then yeah scientists are wrong, right.

535
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody's you know, screwing the pooch on this.

536
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 1>One somebody's pooch. Screwing, yes, called.

537
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>The poop somebody's and you know, And there are other

538
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>stories from South America of like dinosaurs on pottery, painted

539
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 2>on or chiseled into stone. I mean, this isn't something

540
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>that's just exclusive to Mexico. This is something that's in

541
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of places all over the world, of these

542
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>dinosaur like figurines showing up way before we even had

543
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 2>a theory about evolution and what dinosaurs were in when

544
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 2>they lived.

545
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I think we kind of talked about it, maybe not

546
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>in the same exact like timeline crisscross, but we talked

547
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>about like dragons and stuff being on Native American culture

548
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuffs and stories about dinosaurs and dragons. Is that

549
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>implying that Native Americans are way older than we expected,

550
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>or that dragons and dinosaurs lived longer than we expected.

551
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I kind of wonder there are a

552
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of stories of modern day dragons or dinosaurs.

553
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I can think of one off the top of my

554
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 1>head if you want to hear it.

555
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>NeSSI, yeah, we are you gonna say MESSI.

556
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I was gonna do it a long,

557
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>obnoxious story about I ruined that for you in a

558
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 1>thick Irish accent.

559
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know a lot of lakes, even here in Idaho,

560
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in Priest Lake, there are these supposed sea

561
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>monsters that are in these lakes.

562
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>So let's go sturgeon fishing at Priest Lake. I don't

563
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>know if there's I don't even know where priests I guess,

564
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 1>but we could see if we can catch a dinosaur.

565
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that There was an article about some

566
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 2>guys who caught a gigantic sturgeon just recently. I think

567
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it was like fourteen feet long.

568
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, And they.

569
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Are supposedly, you know, the same as they were millions

570
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 2>of years ago.

571
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're dinosaurs. So if you ever seen one, Yeah,

572
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they're dinosaurs.

573
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they told you.

574
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 1>You got like Pokey's They're they're crazy, they're messed up.

575
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 2>But it makes you wonder if those have lived that long.

576
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Who knows what else lived that long?

577
00:29:54.400 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh? What's that giant shark job, the megalodon? Meglodon? Yeah

578
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he was nasty, nasty, so nasty, that nasty maglandon son

579
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of my good.

580
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, there's another one, and we got to keep

581
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 2>moving on this. We're gonna talk for next up. So

582
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>we have that.

583
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I like the way you tied that into the dinosaurs. Yeah,

584
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>did you plan that or no?

585
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>It just seemed appropriate when you talked about dinosaurs sausage jumping.

586
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I went on.

587
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to, if you're interested in that,

588
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>just go online. Look up the akambaro of dinosaurs and

589
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you'll see tons of pictures of these things.

590
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>They're really creepy.

591
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Steglosaurus, you got, the Platysaurus, you got the Veggisaurus,

592
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you got all the sauruses.

593
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Saurus, dinosaurs. Okay, let's keep what up next.

594
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 2>There's this other thing, and this is kind of weird.

595
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Spiral shaped metal objects.

596
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 1>How does that sound? Sounds like work to me? Yeah,

597
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 1>it is, okay.

598
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>So, in like the nineteen nineties, like early nineteen nineties,

599
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>by the Ural Mountains, Yeah, people that were digging for gold,

600
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>gold prospectors ran across these small objects that were basically

601
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>like spring. They were coils. They were spiral coils made

602
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>out of different kinds of metal. Now, the larger ones

603
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>were made out of copper, and you know, they were

604
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe three centimeters long or so, which is what maybe

605
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 2>a quarter of an inch or one point two inches

606
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>long on the biggest ones. And then they also found

607
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 2>incredibly small ones made out of very rare metals, very

608
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 2>hard metals, that were like point zero zero three millimeters.

609
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, yeah, millimeters or centimeters millimeters millimeters.

610
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like really really nice. That's like you have

611
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to look under a microscope to see.

612
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a machinist, that's like two ten thousands of

613
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>an inch or something. Yeah, less than that even.

614
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, crazy small.

615
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to James Terry. He knows what I'm feeling

616
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 1>when we have to hold those tolerances. That's saying.

617
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 2>They find these objects buried, right, these gold prospectors, and

618
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>then they date them and they're coming back with like

619
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>ages of you know, twenty thousand years old.

620
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Whoa?

621
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 2>So even now, Okay, you, as a machinist, if you

622
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>were going to make a small, tiny looking like spring coil,

623
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>really teeny tiny small one, could you make one that

624
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>small out of like some like tungsten or some really

625
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>hard metal.

626
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I couldn't. I'm pretty novice. I'm still in training.

627
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But even with your machines, is there a way that

628
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 1>you could I think I think that my machines like

629
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>plus or minus two ten thousand seve an inch when

630
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you make an adjustment. I think I'm not like positive,

631
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's about what it can do reliably.

632
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Were just incredible considering.

633
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

634
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So to find something smaller than that is like.

635
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, we're talking almost down to a molecular level, right,

636
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>And to me, that's like that is so crazy. So

637
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>they're finding these objects. Got some pictures of these things

638
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that they found, and what do you say with that? Well,

639
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>is it like some weird natural accidentally occurring object right

640
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that you know because of the you know, the genetic

641
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>structure that it actually forms that.

642
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Shape or I mean you've seen like salt and stuff, Yeah,

643
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 1>where they like break it down under a microscope and

644
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all like perfect squares and like cubes. It all

645
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>crumbles down into a cubular store or you.

646
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Can look at like a snowflake or like diamonds with

647
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>certain structures. But this is weird because it's spiral, right.

648
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean they look like a little spring.

649
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Like a little DNA a DNA strand like me, is

650
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 1>a blueprint for building a living thing?

651
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of like a yeah, kind of like that,

652
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>except for their singular I don't even know how to describe.

653
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>But this is like freak people out because it's sold

654
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand years old, right, and we don't even necessary

655
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 2>have the technology to build that kind of stuff today.

656
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah.

657
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 2>And the kind of metal that they're using in this

658
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 2>article I was reading the metal is a very very

659
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>hard metal, like what you'd use for like armoring, like

660
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>a military vehicle.

661
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I can't explain exactly what we're doing right now,

662
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but I have a coworker who's doing some stuff with

663
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a certain type of steel that does not change under

664
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>different environments like super hot, super cold environments and just stable,

665
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, very stable. Just trying to machine it to,

666
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the tolerances are. I'm not working on

667
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this project specifically, but it's it's pretty rough, you know.

668
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>And so it just goes to show this is nothing

669
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>one of those strange artifacts that they're finding that makes

670
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 2>you say, huh, yeah, how did something that's supposed to

671
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>be twenty thousand years old? How did they have the

672
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>technology to make something like that?

673
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the aliens came down and helped them, well, and

674
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that's where a lot of this goes. We're the mother

675
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>flipping nephilims well down and help them.

676
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>And if you want to talk about strange timelines, right, so,

677
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've talked about extreme ones where you've got,

678
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, an artifact found in a sedimentary layer that's

679
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, three hundred million years old supposedly, right, but

680
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you also have these other things in more recent history

681
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>that mess up the timelines. And in like one of

682
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>these objects, there are these vases that look very Roman

683
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>found in Brazil. Okay, in a timeline that's just that

684
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>doesn't match up, right, because the Romans, as far as

685
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>we know, never visited Brazil.

686
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 1>And they're pretty known for catalog and things like. I

687
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>might be wrong, but they're That's kind of their deal is.

688
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 1>They were like one of the first civilizations to really

689
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>take note of where they've been and what they're doing

690
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 1>and creating structures for like an alphabet and stuff like that.

691
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Romans were very very you know, regimented, Yeah

692
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 2>for sure. But anyway, these objects were found in like

693
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two and they were basically under the water.

694
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 2>They were found right outside of Rio de Janio in

695
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the ocean and there were like supposedly these Roman ships

696
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that were found, and alongside these Roman ships were these

697
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Roman vases vases, yeah, vases, and they were from the

698
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>third century, so we're talking like three hundred or so eighty.

699
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

700
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is is the Romans never were supposed

701
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 2>to have made it anywhere near the Americas.

702
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it kind of disrupts the timeline.

703
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>It totally disrupts the timeline you know, of you know,

704
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>what we think the Romans did in that time. And

705
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 2>you know what's really strange about this is that, I

706
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>guess the vases or vases were found first, and then

707
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>they were brought up and then it's like, hey, these

708
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>are third century, you know, Roman vases. And then they

709
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>found these ships that were in the same area and

710
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>they were rotting and you know, they were basically Roman

711
00:36:56.360 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>style ships, and lo and behold. The conspiracy goes that

712
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 2>the Brazilian government went out and buried these things under

713
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the sand. They basically as soon as they found them,

714
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 2>knew that they had something that contradicted, you know, the timeline,

715
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and so that they you know, destroyed or buried the evidence.

716
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they buried them to make them look older,

717
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>or they buried them to make them not discoverable. Not discoverable, Okay,

718
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>so they hid the evidence like, oh, this goes against

719
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the status quo.

720
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's just right restless under the desert rug. Yeah, and

721
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>so you know, this is just one of many stories.

722
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 2>So there are pictures of.

723
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>These vases that they found, vases, vases, vases.

724
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't have pictures as far as I know, of the

725
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 2>actual ships that they supposedly found because those were buried

726
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and destroyed, but they do have these photographic evidence of

727
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>these vases or vases.

728
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing, Okay.

729
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 2>So along with that, you have other things that mess

730
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>up the timeline or places where people our cultures are

731
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in places that they're not.

732
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Supposed to be.

733
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>They found like Viking coins supposedly in Maine in the

734
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>United States, and I.

735
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Think we brought that some not that particular thing up,

736
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 1>but I think we mentioned when we were doing the

737
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>petroglyph stuff. I think I mentioned an old petroglyph type

738
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>rock in Portland or yeah, in Oregon that had Viking

739
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>symbols on it, like they was kind of like a

740
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit across the typical idea of what the geographical

741
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>expansion was Yeah.

742
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 2>And for people that are interested, you can just google

743
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 2>the stuff we're talking about. You'll find it. It's it's everywhere.

744
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.599
<v Speaker 2>And in going back to the Roman thing, going back

745
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 2>to the Roman thing.

746
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>It just shout it, Oh you doing sorry, puppy dog

747
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>made me open the door. Yeah, but I.

748
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Mean going back to the Roman and the thing you're

749
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 2>supposedly there are these stories of finding Roman statues in Mexico,

750
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 2>and you have the Roman bases that we talked about

751
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>in Brazil. You have Roman coins in Ohio. You have

752
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>these things popping up that are just not supposed to

753
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 2>be there. You have these Viking you know landmarks that's

754
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 2>that look very Viking like in areas where they're not

755
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>supposed to have.

756
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Been Ohio Romans and Ohio Romans and Ohio Roman coins,

757
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>like a coastal town, even city. What it shows is that.

758
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Somehow these coins got to the America's right and then

759
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.199
<v Speaker 2>they got to Ohio.

760
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

761
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, it could be you know somebody and you know,

762
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>when they were coming into the country and maybe they

763
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>brought them with them and then you know, as.

764
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Like a granddad had these and I brought them over.

765
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But anyway, it's interesting. There are tons of stories

766
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>like this out there that mess up the timelines. Yeah,

767
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we're just talking about in this episode

768
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the artifacts. In next episode, I think we should go

769
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 2>into some of the other things. There are archaeological and

770
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, naturally forming types of things that argue against

771
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the kind of age or at least the timelines that

772
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 2>we know of.

773
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 1>So we're going less Indiana Jones and more drastic party

774
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of. Yeah.

775
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, just for instance, you have trees that

776
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>grow up through different layers of sediment. So you've got

777
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>like in the sedimentary layers, you maybe have you know,

778
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a million years of history in the sedimentary layers. But

779
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a tree inexplicably growing up between all of those layers.

780
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:44.760
<v Speaker 2>So the tree isn't millions of years.

781
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Old, almost as though like the layers have piled around

782
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the tree. Really cool, the tree had grown over it

783
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 1>over its lifetime.

784
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>So something happened that messed up that timeline. There's a

785
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of evidence for this, like in the Grand Canyon.

786
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of evidence for this, Like in Mount

787
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Saint Helens when it erupted, it created these rapid layers

788
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>of stratifications that by all intents and purposes if you

789
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>were to analyze them after the fact, not knowing that

790
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 2>it happened in a volcano over a few days or

791
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.920
<v Speaker 2>weeks or months, that you know, you've got millions of

792
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 2>years of history. The problem is it happened very quickly,

793
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's a natural reason for that. But I don't

794
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>want to get into that yet. That's a different topic

795
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about, so of those those other

796
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>kinds of things that mess up timelines. And you know, honestly,

797
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to argue for Young Earth or Older

798
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Earth or anything. I'm just trying to say, hey, something's

799
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 2>not right here. There isn't this neat, tidy little theory

800
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 2>that makes everything work. Things are messed up from any angle,

801
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>they're messed up. And you have to have a grain

802
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 2>of salt in your logic model so that you cannot

803
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>predispose your mind towards one thing at the expense of

804
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>any other possibility. You got to be able to keep

805
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>an open mind about this. And that's why I find

806
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>this fascinating, because I mean, sure you can mix in

807
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 2>your religious, you know, perspectives, mix in your your scientific perspectives,

808
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>or your personal preference or you can throw in the

809
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 2>fringe stuff with aliens and all of that kind of stuff.

810
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe we're all just some kind of giant simulization

811
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 2>simulization where you're going for we're just yeah, maybe we're

812
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 2>just some kind of giant simulationization simulation, he said, simulization,

813
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 2>which is a simulation of civilization.

814
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Deep in this fringe most.

815
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it's gonna be fun. We got a little,

816
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, more things to talk about. We can get

817
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 2>into weird technology that they've found that maybe isn't like

818
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 2>as old as some of these artifacts, but it's technology

819
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't exist in the timeframe that it's found, and

820
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people.

821
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Say, oh, that's aliens or whatever.

822
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Weird structures, you know, got like structures that are like

823
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>created with like really precise cuts and stone and somehow

824
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 2>stacked together pyramids whatever.

825
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You got these.

826
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Weird things that you can only see from the air,

827
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>like these giant.

828
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Those like ant things, where are those at? And the

829
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Middle East, I don't know what, like giant rock formations

830
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 1>that kind of make an ant stacked them into like

831
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a bug shape. Yeah, there's that.

832
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>And then you got down in South America, you got

833
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>all these weird kind of like things you can only

834
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 2>see from like way up in the air, of like

835
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>giant figurines and drawings and stuff, and then it's yeah, maybe, yeah,

836
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>those kinds of things. There's the footprint stuff that we

837
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 2>talked about in and just you know, very briefly about

838
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>why are there footprints alongside dinosaur foot prints? Yeah, And

839
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 2>I had heard about this when I was young, probably

840
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 2>in like the eighties or nineties, and then it was

841
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 2>supposedly discounted because oh yeah, it wasn't that it was

842
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 2>a baby dinosaur that kind of eroded to make it

843
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>look like a human footprint, and so I kind of

844
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>just said, hey, yeah, poo poo that whole thing. But

845
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.679
<v Speaker 2>now I realized there's not just like that one thing.

846
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 2>There are like hundreds of these things.

847
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Several different avenues to go down well.

848
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And there's just a whole bunch.

849
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<v Speaker 1>Of them, you know. The thing that really gets me

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<v Speaker 1>well is like this, I don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>theory or what you would call it, but where a

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<v Speaker 1>mosquito lands on a dinosaur, okay, and then that mosquito

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<v Speaker 1>lands on a tree, and then that tree has sap

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<v Speaker 1>and the mosquito gets caught in the south and that

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<v Speaker 1>turns into like what they call amber amber, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're able to extract the dinosaur dnad the amber and

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<v Speaker 1>make actual living dinosaurs by combining that DNA with a

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<v Speaker 1>frog or whatever else they need to do. And then

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<v Speaker 1>that turns into a hold debacle where we got to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to contain.

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<v Speaker 2>That ormaphrodites and they could be both male and females

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<v Speaker 2>the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>They are very adaptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting stuff. So another thing we'll talk about too,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if we can get to it, is they found

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<v Speaker 2>like human remains and stratifications of rock and sediment that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to be into, and so it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're finding humans in like layers of rock

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<v Speaker 2>that's supposedly, you know, two hundred million years old, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million years old. Hey, we're not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>there yet. What's going on, right? And so there's those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things. If we get the time in this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should talk about it because what I

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<v Speaker 2>like about it the strange part is it totally disrupts

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<v Speaker 2>the timelines, and for some reason that turns my crank,

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<v Speaker 2>not because I'm trying to prove anything but just because

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<v Speaker 2>I like it when things go strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when things kind of get out of the norm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm kind of the same way, like quirky things, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fringe things. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well even like right now, what's going on with like

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<v Speaker 2>the coronavirus and vaccines, and you know, everybody's pushing vaccines,

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<v Speaker 2>but everybody's pushing back against vaccines. Who knows what's really real?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, yeah, I want to just find the

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<v Speaker 1>most conspiracy stuff as possible. Yeah, yeah, what do you believe?

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly? It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I do like is that in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>we stir the pot. Yeah, you know, and we're starting

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<v Speaker 2>the pot with this stuff, and I hope you can

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<v Speaker 2>pull out the things you want to believe in, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe what you believe in is that you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to believe in anything that somebody says just because they

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<v Speaker 2>say it's scientific, or because they say it's religious, or

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<v Speaker 2>because they say it's aliens, whatever it is. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to find out what's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think our hashtag for our podcast could be hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>get off the bandwagon. Get off the bandwagon. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just do something because that's what everybody else believes

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<v Speaker 1>do something because that's what you find logical, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you believe. Like, don't follow a specific point of

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<v Speaker 1>view because it's social. That's what I learned at school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I learned at Sunday School.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of like Fox Moulder, he says, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to believe, you know, that's maybe we should adapt that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to believe the truth, right, But I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what that is. Yeah, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but I'm gonna figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep thinking about it and keep wondering about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to just you know, close my

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<v Speaker 2>ears to something because it's not what I want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good stuff. Yeah, anyway, I think that's like if

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<v Speaker 1>you could sum up our podcast as a whole and

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<v Speaker 1>be just googling around. And we have our we have

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<v Speaker 1>our little biases. Sure, I think we both do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think our biases come with our life experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not those but take ticular life experiences, where

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<v Speaker 1>biased or not, I think they affect our lives differently.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody else has a different life view and

921
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<v Speaker 1>the things they hear and receive are based on those

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<v Speaker 1>life views, they should be open to hearing other life vies.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on that happy note, now that we've not solved anything,

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<v Speaker 2>now given permission for people to try to solve everything

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<v Speaker 2>figured out, maybe, yeah, maybe we should close this off

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<v Speaker 2>and so we can all go to bed and ponder

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<v Speaker 2>this in our nightly reminitions.

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<v Speaker 1>Most certainly yes, So join us next time for some

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<v Speaker 1>cold drinks and some strange conversations. Absolutely daters