Speaker 1: Red letter, yellow letter or whatever. Right the warm up
Speaker 1: your mouth red letter, yellow letter or something. I thought
Speaker 1: it was watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon. Hey guys, Hey guys,
Speaker 1: and we're on episode.
Speaker 2: Don't you want to say, Welcome to a Strange Thing
Speaker 2: podcast on I am Mike and I'm Austin.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're thirty seconds in and I think we already
Speaker 1: need a beer break. I noticed you suck that one
Speaker 1: right down. Yep. Yeah, we've been chatting. We have.
Speaker 2: We've been talking off Mike. We should have saved some
Speaker 2: of that because that was pretty good conversation that was
Speaker 2: going on right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I noticed you sounded a little scruffy.
Speaker 1: I am a little scruffy. Had pretty not gnarly cold
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, sinus thing not COVID, not COVID. I
Speaker 1: got tested midnight two days ago. It sucked. Have you
Speaker 1: noticed my voice is a little scruffy little Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think you're going the smoke lung. I know, smoker's lung.
Speaker 2: Terrible forest fires all around. You know, we're in the
Speaker 2: west and there is.
Speaker 1: What I was just looking at a compass in my
Speaker 1: head or northwest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are tons of fires in California and
Speaker 2: in Nevada and in Oregon and in Idaho and in
Speaker 2: Wyoming and Montana. Fires everywhere, and the smoke here is horrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been in that red zone for like the
Speaker 2: last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Gross.
Speaker 2: Plus it is freaking hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got like a couple of things all adding up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been like one hundred and six degrees. Okay,
Speaker 2: not every day, but it's been above one hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: mostly ninety five percent of.
Speaker 1: The last Today was one of the coolest days we've
Speaker 1: had in a while, and it.
Speaker 2: Was still like ninety seven and very humid.
Speaker 1: It was humid because it rained this morning.
Speaker 2: I walked three miles in that along a.
Speaker 1: River uphill both ways. No, but by a river, so
Speaker 1: it was like humid plus extra humid. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: bet the river keeps it nice and cool. There was
Speaker 1: a little breeze and a little bit of shade from
Speaker 1: the trees. It was nice. But yes, I was. I
Speaker 1: was schetty. What a problem I had to take a
Speaker 1: walk by a river today.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, it's schetti. It's part of my rehab.
Speaker 2: I've got to do exercise because of my situation that
Speaker 2: I described in the last podcast. Right, So, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to exercise a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's some cardio in, so let's do a little cardio
Speaker 1: walk over, yeah, grab a beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be like, you know, thirty steps.
Speaker 1: We got to get those thirty steps in. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back. But you're a pedometer on pometer. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: how far is it to my we'll count, we'll count,
Speaker 1: and we'll come back with the report. I'm thinking twenty steps.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with well to the kitchen or to
Speaker 1: get the beer and come back just to the area
Speaker 1: where you're going to get the beer. Oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: go outside.
Speaker 2: Thirty four okay, thirty four for you, twenty to me
Speaker 2: because I'm stopping at the countertop.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, ready break. I actually forgot to count
Speaker 1: about halfway. But when I walked from here to the garage,
Speaker 1: it was seventeen steps. So if you multiply by two,
Speaker 1: that's thirty four. That's the number. So you're pretty close.
Speaker 2: Well, I just got to say when I walked to
Speaker 2: where I was going to walk to, it was exactly
Speaker 2: twenty steps.
Speaker 1: I think we should have defined what death step was
Speaker 1: because you could have been like large step, large step,
Speaker 1: and you're at like ten and you're halfway there, so
Speaker 1: you cut them in half. You know.
Speaker 2: I kind of think that, you know, in my mind,
Speaker 2: not purposefully, I might have, you know, calibrated my steps
Speaker 2: a little longer shorter.
Speaker 1: So it would come out about right.
Speaker 2: And I have to admit I could have stopped on
Speaker 2: the one side of the island, but I took three
Speaker 2: more steps around it so that I could end at twenty.
Speaker 1: Because if you made it to twenty where you were,
Speaker 1: and I made it to seventeen where I went, well
Speaker 1: you steps, Well I was doing stride like a normal stride.
Speaker 2: Well that's because you were trying to make it equal
Speaker 2: thirty four there and back, So you.
Speaker 1: Were trying trying to make a very calibrated step that
Speaker 1: was the same every time.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying you still missed it because you hadn't
Speaker 2: gone into the garage yet, which was probably another four
Speaker 2: steps each way.
Speaker 1: We play what we plus thirty four the area where
Speaker 1: we get our drink, which is the fridge. Well mine
Speaker 1: was from the garage, and then I changed my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way it works. Anyway, we were calling
Speaker 1: get beer, let's just say we were in the ballpark, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: And we got a refresher beer and whatever beverage of
Speaker 2: choice that we wanted.
Speaker 1: I am myself am having a It's the vodka Tonic
Speaker 1: with a lime wedge in a stemless wine glass and
Speaker 1: lots of eyes. Are you having an a line twist? No,
Speaker 1: just I'm not that fancy.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm having my usual go to, which is a
Speaker 2: little Irish whisky instead of Powers. This time, I'm drinking
Speaker 2: a little bush Mill because it was.
Speaker 1: Like six bucks off. It was great deal.
Speaker 2: And then I've got in my other hand, double fist
Speaker 2: my Guinness Genuine Draft.
Speaker 1: In a genuine Guinness cup.
Speaker 2: It isn't a genuine Guinness cup. And it's also because
Speaker 2: it is kind of a low carb it fits within
Speaker 2: my semi keto low carb.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, lifestyle cool cool cool cool cool.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so good times.
Speaker 1: What are we going to talk about?
Speaker 2: Okay, so last week we started talking about strange artifacts
Speaker 2: and we kicked it off, if you remember, right with
Speaker 2: the Nampa figurine.
Speaker 1: Yep. So basically just a really quick recap.
Speaker 2: In eighteen ninety something, around eighteen ay, eighteen eighty seven,
Speaker 2: they were digging a well, and they were using this
Speaker 2: but you know, pile driver kind of well drilling machine apparatus,
Speaker 2: chunker probably steam.
Speaker 1: Powered, steam powered junker, well con chunker couchune.
Speaker 2: And when they got you know, way deep down into
Speaker 2: an area that they called the Pleistocene region of sediment,
Speaker 2: which is anywhere from two hundred and fifty million to
Speaker 2: well twelve thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: That's kind of anti climactic.
Speaker 2: Right, two hundred and fifty million all the way to
Speaker 2: twelve thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve thousand BC. That's a big chunkle of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's that's not very that's not very specific.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's like when when we have Sunday dinner
Speaker 1: at your house, like what time should we show up?
Speaker 1: And you're like after naps? Yeah, it's nebulous. Well my
Speaker 1: kid could wake up anytime between nap time and four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to define that better. Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Well, in a similar way, so there was a layer
Speaker 2: of sediment that they called the what was it Hagerman layer.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last time.
Speaker 2: Well, it was Hagerman fossil bed, but there was oh no,
Speaker 2: it was the Glen's Fairy formation. So the Glenn's Fairy
Speaker 2: formation is as a strata layer deep.
Speaker 1: Into the ground.
Speaker 2: So they estimate that that's, oh my gosh, what was that.
Speaker 2: But they estimate that that area underneath the ground is
Speaker 2: probably about three hundred million years old. Well, they pump
Speaker 2: out of this well drilling machine this little tiny figurine
Speaker 2: that's kind of made of clay and some other weird sediment.
Speaker 2: And the thing was is that humans aren't supposed to
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 1: Around that long to make figurines, especially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it wasn't some kind of hoax, and
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people think that it was
Speaker 2: a hoax, then this thing totally bankrupts the whole Darwinian
Speaker 2: model of human evolution and the amount of time that
Speaker 2: humans have been on the earth. Right, Either that or
Speaker 2: if it is really really really that old, then they
Speaker 2: were around three hundred million years ago humans were. Or
Speaker 2: if it's not that then it means that the earth
Speaker 2: is young, and then that layer is not really that
Speaker 2: old that old. So anyway, it breaks the scientific conventions
Speaker 2: that are out the old that's accepted. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: why we're calling it strange artifacts, because there are it's
Speaker 2: not just the you know, the namp of figurine. There
Speaker 2: are tons of these things that are being found and
Speaker 2: have been found that kind of fly in the face
Speaker 2: of that scientific status quo that that aging and and
Speaker 2: so you know, I thought that was a strange thing.
Speaker 2: And plus, because I have kind of a religious background,
Speaker 2: I had always kind of been taught like these these
Speaker 2: other kind of ideas about how old the earth is,
Speaker 2: and so I thought it was fascinating. And so, like
Speaker 2: we said in our last podcast, we're not gonna lobby
Speaker 2: for any position. We're just going to throw these things
Speaker 2: out there and if you're interested, do a little research
Speaker 2: and try to explain why these things exist. Anyway, that's
Speaker 2: what that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So what are some of these little artifacts that you found?
Speaker 2: Okay, So we started out with the nampit figurine because
Speaker 2: it is very close.
Speaker 1: It's like ten miles away, and we did our on
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones tour there, right.
Speaker 2: We rode the motorcycles around. We've tried to find the
Speaker 2: actual location where the well was. Yep, and it was
Speaker 2: hard to do, but we did it because we are
Speaker 2: all about the investigation. Oh yeah, yeah, we want to
Speaker 2: go out.
Speaker 1: I say, we had no fun at the Masonic Lodge
Speaker 1: bar eating Klamari rings, looking at beautiful waitresses, bar waitresses.
Speaker 2: It was torture.
Speaker 1: It were so gross gross. Yeah, no they were.
Speaker 2: They were very attractive ladies in case they Yeah. I
Speaker 2: appreciated their feminine forms.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah, but my wife's gonna slap me
Speaker 1: in the face. No, no, no, I never mind. She
Speaker 1: doesn't listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one thing that I think. My wife listens.
Speaker 2: But honey, I am an artist. I look at esthetic beauty.
Speaker 2: I don't register them as anything other than the pure
Speaker 2: aesthetics of their feminine form. Sweet, just just disclaim her there.
Speaker 1: So what's our next topic? What's their next thing?
Speaker 2: Not our topic, but our next next Well, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of these kind of objects, and I thought
Speaker 2: we should just throw out a few of these and
Speaker 2: people can look them up. We're not going to go into,
Speaker 2: you know, too much detail, because it would take forever,
Speaker 2: because there are literally hundreds of these things, and you know,
Speaker 2: I think we should kind of pepper these not only
Speaker 2: with maybe artifacts, but with other kind of anomalies that
Speaker 2: make you go, wait a minute, something's off on this
Speaker 2: time scale. Whatever you want to attribute that to.
Speaker 1: That's your prerogative. Sweet, no progody. So what's the next one?
Speaker 2: So the next one and no particular order on these, right,
Speaker 2: The next one I'm thinking about is something called the
Speaker 2: London Hammer London. So if I say the London Hammer,
Speaker 2: what do you think of?
Speaker 1: I don't know, London call the song but with hammer?
Speaker 1: Are you thinking like British accents and things like that,
Speaker 1: or like a sweet kind of classic rock band called
Speaker 1: London Hammer? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, you'd be wrong on all counts. So this
Speaker 2: actually took place in a place called London, Texas.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So this is like in the nineteen thirties. A couple
Speaker 2: is out walking and they see this outcropping of rock
Speaker 2: when they're out hiking, and they were wondering why there
Speaker 2: was this wooden thing sticking out of the rock.
Speaker 1: Would protruding from rock?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Would protruding from rock?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So they go up and there's like this rock you know,
Speaker 2: let's just call it a nodule, nodule, and and they
Speaker 2: kind of get pulling on this piece of wood that's
Speaker 2: sticking out, you know, like is it a root?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: But it seemed to have like a very definitive kind
Speaker 2: of processed kind of handmade kind of shape.
Speaker 1: So a couple of Texans were out yanking on the
Speaker 1: old wood.
Speaker 2: Exactly, a male and a female yankin on the wood
Speaker 2: well in Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is text, that's right.
Speaker 2: So they're they're out there, they see this thing. They
Speaker 2: end up actually removing the nodule from the outcropping of rocks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So they've got this like stone that's got this like
Speaker 2: wooden handle sticking out of the you know, and it's
Speaker 2: not a huge maybe you know, maybe ten inches in
Speaker 2: diameter something like that. So they take this stone home
Speaker 2: and they sit it there for quite a while, and
Speaker 2: then eventually, some day, some way, somebody decides, hey, I
Speaker 2: wonder what that wooden handle is connected.
Speaker 1: To, Grandpa have. Yeah, so they.
Speaker 2: Smack it and crack it and they open it up
Speaker 2: and inside, lo and behold is an iron hammer head.
Speaker 2: So it looks like when they open it up, there's
Speaker 2: like this obviously man made iron shape of a hammerhead. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you brought the pig sture up. Yeah, it's a hammer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a hammer, and they're connected through like an islet
Speaker 2: in the iron is a wooden handle, And that was
Speaker 2: what was protruding.
Speaker 1: Out the side of this nodule. Crazy.
Speaker 2: So the problem was this sedimentary layer of rock outcropping
Speaker 2: is supposed to be over three hundred million years old.
Speaker 2: So how in the world could there be a man
Speaker 2: made object like a hammer inside of a rock nodule
Speaker 2: that's three hundred million years old?
Speaker 1: So what did they find it?
Speaker 2: In nineteen thirty eight? And then they cracked it open?
Speaker 2: I think it was in nineteen forty six or nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven. Oh, okay, yeah, So I mean this is
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost what eighty years ago. It's a
Speaker 2: while somewhere, yeah, somewhere there. And and so they open
Speaker 2: it up, and this thing's been around a lot of
Speaker 2: debate on its authenticity, I think, and now it resides
Speaker 2: in like a creation research institute museum, okay, because of
Speaker 2: course they grab onto it and say, aha, see mankind
Speaker 2: was around when you say this rock was three hundred
Speaker 2: and some million years old.
Speaker 1: No way, somebody was that old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know they want to say, no, this
Speaker 2: is like seven thousand years ago, and they have their
Speaker 2: own reasons for that belief, and we're not going to
Speaker 2: jump into that. That would be a whole nother topic
Speaker 2: like maybe call it strange timelines or something like that.
Speaker 1: Back to the future.
Speaker 2: Yes, but on this one, we're just throwing out these
Speaker 2: things that they're kind of shaking.
Speaker 1: Up the status quo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a truck.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a super U, sounds like a rice burger.
Speaker 1: It was like, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, there is this rock that had this hammer
Speaker 2: supposedly in it, and I don't know how you would
Speaker 2: fake it. I mean, I'm looking at the photograph of
Speaker 2: it right now, and there are you know, it's really
Speaker 2: encased inside of a rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a hammer. Yeah, it's like a like a
Speaker 1: mallet style hammer inside of a rock. Yeah. It's got
Speaker 1: like the the like kind of what do you call
Speaker 1: it an islet where the wood goes through and the
Speaker 1: wood is like wedged apart with like some kind of
Speaker 1: insert and it swells and hits the outside of the
Speaker 1: islet and that doesn't allow it to move up.
Speaker 2: The handle keeps it and keeps it locked on, you know.
Speaker 2: And the thing about it to me that's striking isn't that,
Speaker 2: you know, there's this wooden thing sitting on like a
Speaker 2: broken open rock, but that the actual wood handle goes
Speaker 2: through the rock where it's broken. It's not like on
Speaker 2: top of it. It actually is going into the rock
Speaker 2: and out the other side. And to me that that
Speaker 2: would be like a major kind of construction. You'd have
Speaker 2: to get in there with little chisels and like you know,
Speaker 2: to the minute detail, go in there and chisel out
Speaker 2: something to.
Speaker 1: Fake the passage. Yeah. Yeah, well even then if it
Speaker 1: came out the way it did, you would have to
Speaker 1: like chisel your way through with the wood and then
Speaker 1: like drill another hole through the top right and like
Speaker 1: pour the uh the cast iron molten liquid into the
Speaker 1: casting and be a whole or deal. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So to me, it's like it's intriguing. Now. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it could totally be a fake. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you build a rock around an object like that. But
Speaker 2: let's say that it was somehow that maybe it was
Speaker 2: like dropped and then you know, some kind of material
Speaker 2: flooded in, like a crazy fire happened or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was like and then it dried up and
Speaker 2: under some kind of pressure from whatever weights or whatever,
Speaker 2: it formed some kind of rock like structure. I mean,
Speaker 2: you could go that route. I think the critics that
Speaker 2: say that this thing is not that old do so
Speaker 2: because they basically say, no, it can't be that old
Speaker 2: because humans weren't around. But then there are other things
Speaker 2: about it that say no, this is already like turning
Speaker 2: to coal. That the wood is turning to coal. So
Speaker 2: it's like selective testing.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean, you can make up
Speaker 2: your own mind on it. But whatever it is, it
Speaker 2: throws a giant monkey rich or in this case a
Speaker 2: hammer a rock cammer into the mix.
Speaker 1: That's funny because well, not funny, but it reminds me
Speaker 1: of I'll be out hunting sometimes there's a certain area
Speaker 1: I go pretty regularly, but when you be hiking, you'll
Speaker 1: see like an old maybe an old cabin, some kind
Speaker 1: of like civilization that's been long expired kind of seems like.
Speaker 1: And then you'll be hiking off the trail out in
Speaker 1: the I mean you kind of have that sense of
Speaker 1: nobody's ever stepped here, you know, like you're like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. And then you've got like a like a
Speaker 1: tin like a tin can that's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to describe it. I couldn't even tell you what
Speaker 1: kind of can. It would be like an oval almost
Speaker 1: like a sardine tin can and it's like in a
Speaker 1: tree and it's all rusted out, and it's like actually
Speaker 1: growing into.
Speaker 2: The tree, grew around it or something.
Speaker 1: That picture kind of gives me that same vibe, like what,
Speaker 1: you know, like why did he stick that can the
Speaker 1: way he did or she I guess less likely, but
Speaker 1: potentially she into the tree or maybe even like tack
Speaker 1: it or nail it to the tree when they did,
Speaker 1: like was it a marker? And then and then the
Speaker 1: tree kind of grew around it. But then when you're
Speaker 1: walking by and you catch a glimmer of rust inside
Speaker 1: the tree, you're like, what in the world And you
Speaker 1: look closer and it's like a metal tin. You can
Speaker 1: see the the where the old like imprinted label was
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird. Well, and you know the thing
Speaker 2: about this stuff that we're talking about, and you know,
Speaker 2: we've talked about two so far, but there are hundreds
Speaker 2: of these things and maybe even thousands, So it's not
Speaker 2: something that's just like totally fringe, you know, that's like,
Speaker 2: you know, some weird anomaly that happened once or twice,
Speaker 2: but there have been hundreds of these things.
Speaker 1: Found that make.
Speaker 2: You kind of question the rationalization of time, or at
Speaker 2: least how old mankind is on the planet. And I
Speaker 2: find it very fascinating. It is very very strange because
Speaker 2: as soon as you start poking that bear, you start
Speaker 2: poking the bear of how old is the earth or
Speaker 2: how long has mankind been on the earth, then you
Speaker 2: open up this big can of worms and everybody freaks out.
Speaker 1: Ever since I was little, i've been I've always thought
Speaker 1: being kind was ten thousand years old. And that comes
Speaker 1: from Aladdin movie Aladdin where they rubbed lamp and that
Speaker 1: Genie comes out and he's like, ten thousand years it
Speaker 1: can be such a crick in the neck. Why ten
Speaker 1: thousand years will give you such a crick in the
Speaker 1: neck like that? So that shaped you. That's that's where
Speaker 1: my timeline comes from. A Disney channel mostly.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you look at this stuff, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just as valid as a lot of things, because
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 1: Is really screwed up.
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is true, then it screws up
Speaker 2: the model that's taught in every university, in high school
Speaker 2: in the country or in the world. And if it's
Speaker 2: not messed up, then you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: weird people runing out making strange, deceptive things to try
Speaker 2: to throw off something. So it's it's one conspiracy or
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so what's the next deal?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I mean there's we're just gonna go over
Speaker 2: a few If you are really interested in this stuff,
Speaker 2: get on the line and just google like a strange
Speaker 2: a strange thing dot com. You could do that, or
Speaker 2: you could just say, you know, just look up strange
Speaker 2: artifacts that.
Speaker 1: Less subjective search and what are some strange artifacts that
Speaker 1: may or may not change the way people think about
Speaker 1: the creation of the earth and or Asian search. That
Speaker 1: would be a little biased search. Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe just look up artifacts that argue for how
Speaker 2: long man has been on the planet or something.
Speaker 1: Do they call this this group of artifacts so you
Speaker 1: said it earlier, like uh, forbidden or oh they.
Speaker 2: Call it, you know, forbidden archaeology because the book Forbidden Archaeology.
Speaker 1: It's actually about a book I see.
Speaker 2: And the guy's argument is that you know, this stuff
Speaker 2: is forbidden because it basically says that mankind has been
Speaker 2: around a lot longer than you think and walked with
Speaker 2: the dinosaurs. But we'll get into some of that too,
Speaker 2: because not only do we have artifacts, but we also
Speaker 2: have like archaeological evidence that people find, like human foot
Speaker 2: prints with dinosaur footprints, and you know, if that just
Speaker 2: happened once, you know, you could explain it away. It's like,
Speaker 2: maybe there's a baby dinosaur that had like, you know,
Speaker 2: a certain kind of footprint walking by like a giant
Speaker 2: what do they call those long necks and veggiosaurs from
Speaker 2: They say that in the Jurassic Park. Yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 2: so maybe one of those was walking alongside a smaller
Speaker 2: dinosaur that had a footprint and then it got washed
Speaker 2: out and then kind of made.
Speaker 1: It look human.
Speaker 2: But if that was the case, then you got a
Speaker 2: problem because there are hundreds of those kinds of footprints found,
Speaker 2: some with like a human footprint that's obviously stepped on
Speaker 2: by a dinosaur footprint.
Speaker 1: That's weird. And I saw that scene in Jurassic Park. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: So, I mean it's weird stuff. But anyway, we're not
Speaker 2: talking about that stuff yet. We're talking about artifacts.
Speaker 1: I do, I do want to just take a minute
Speaker 1: talk about Jurassic Park, okay, and how it is my
Speaker 1: favorite movie series of all time, it is really good.
Speaker 1: So you start with the first one. You got the
Speaker 1: two kids going to see Grandpa at the Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: You've got the Chaos what do they call them, chaos chaos,
Speaker 1: Chaos theory, Chaos theory guy, which is a gold Bloom,
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom, and and and and and it's a it's
Speaker 1: amazing you know that guy. And then you've got the
Speaker 1: other guy who's an archaeologist. And then you've got the
Speaker 1: the the lawyer, and they're all like getting this thing together.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And then you've got the next couple that
Speaker 1: aren't that great. And then you've got the Chris Pratt ones,
Speaker 1: which are really good, and then the newest Chris Pratt one,
Speaker 1: which is kind of like a lot of the scenes
Speaker 1: call back to the original one. And then you've got
Speaker 1: the Camp Cretaceous TV Show, which is a cartoon which
Speaker 1: calls back basically all of the Chris Pratt movies, different
Speaker 1: storyline yep. And then it's a bunch of kids, and
Speaker 1: then you got scenes from the old movie happening in
Speaker 1: the Camp Cretaceous cartoon, like they like called back the rafter,
Speaker 1: like tapping on the glass and trying to open the
Speaker 1: door knob and.
Speaker 2: You know the steamer.
Speaker 1: I love. Jurassic Park is my favorite TV C. It
Speaker 1: is jeeps, Yeah, jeeps and jeeps are dope in motorcycles.
Speaker 1: Motorcycle a Norton motorcycle through the forest, likes with velociraptors, pratt.
Speaker 2: Hot Onto Yeah yeah, breezy some good ship ro good stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, my ranstone, what's next? Okay, Yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: to the next artifact.
Speaker 2: Some dinosaurs stuff I think we should talk about next.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but
Speaker 2: the dinosaurs of Akambarrow akham Borrow a Cambarrow. Yeah, and Spanish,
Speaker 2: I think it is Spanish.
Speaker 1: Yes, So.
Speaker 2: Supposedly these were found. These are like a collection of objects.
Speaker 2: They estimate the ages anywhere from three to six thousand
Speaker 2: years ago, right, okay, And there are over thirty three
Speaker 2: thousand of these figurines that were found, these artifacts, the artifacts, right.
Speaker 2: And the story goes that there was this guy I
Speaker 2: can't even pronounce his name. He was a German dude,
Speaker 2: and he was in Mexico. It's right there, you see it,
Speaker 2: Waldemar jultrud.
Speaker 1: Yard of my hushword something like that's my guess, that's
Speaker 1: beyond of my hush word.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he was a hardware merchant and he was
Speaker 2: in Acambaro, Mexico, and he was riding his horse on
Speaker 2: a place called Alturo and he spotted some of these
Speaker 2: partially exposed ceramic or stone objects that were half buried
Speaker 2: in the dirt, supposedly, and he started digging them out
Speaker 2: and there were just a buttload of him. But the
Speaker 2: strange thing is that these things were in the shapes
Speaker 2: of dinosaurs. I mean, not like just one dynast but
Speaker 2: like they were all kinds.
Speaker 1: So what was what year was this? Uh, just happened
Speaker 1: in like a nineteen forties and mid nineteen forty something
Speaker 1: like that. They had some dinosaur knowledge at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So if somebody wanted to fake these things,
Speaker 2: I mean, they probably could find books or illustrations of
Speaker 2: what these dinosaurs were.
Speaker 1: Supposed to look like in nineteen forty four.
Speaker 2: But these were dated as far as like the stratification
Speaker 2: of the surrounding you know, rock and soil at three
Speaker 2: thousand to six thousand years old. Plus the sheer volume
Speaker 2: of these things. It wasn't like there was a dozen
Speaker 2: or two dozen. Then somebody went out there and made
Speaker 2: what would you say, thirty three thousand, thirty over thirty
Speaker 2: three thousand, almost thirty four thousand different objects. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a lot of of all of these things. His hands
Speaker 2: would have been tired if he was himself. And so
Speaker 2: the problem is if they're that old, say they're three
Speaker 2: thousand years old, this is way before the idea of
Speaker 2: dinosaurs and evolutionary theory came along. So how would they
Speaker 2: have known, whoever these people were three thousand years ago
Speaker 2: to six thousand years ago, how would they know what
Speaker 2: a dinosaur look like to make them out of ceramic
Speaker 2: or clay? And so that's the big kind of question
Speaker 2: mark on this. Now, of course modern scientists said, no,
Speaker 2: this is a big fake thing, you know, it's more
Speaker 2: modern and somebody did it there.
Speaker 1: As a hoax.
Speaker 2: Well they have to say that because if they don't
Speaker 2: say that, then you've got the problem that somehow people
Speaker 2: three thousand years ago knew and were aware of what
Speaker 2: dinosaurs were like.
Speaker 1: Right, But if you're a person that doesn't believe the
Speaker 1: typical timeline, then you kind of have to say the
Speaker 1: world then yeah scientists are wrong, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's you know, screwing the pooch on this.
Speaker 1: One somebody's pooch. Screwing, yes, called.
Speaker 2: The poop somebody's and you know, And there are other
Speaker 2: stories from South America of like dinosaurs on pottery, painted
Speaker 2: on or chiseled into stone. I mean, this isn't something
Speaker 2: that's just exclusive to Mexico. This is something that's in
Speaker 2: all kinds of places all over the world, of these
Speaker 2: dinosaur like figurines showing up way before we even had
Speaker 2: a theory about evolution and what dinosaurs were in when
Speaker 2: they lived.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of talked about it, maybe not
Speaker 1: in the same exact like timeline crisscross, but we talked
Speaker 1: about like dragons and stuff being on Native American culture
Speaker 1: and stuffs and stories about dinosaurs and dragons. Is that
Speaker 1: implying that Native Americans are way older than we expected,
Speaker 1: or that dragons and dinosaurs lived longer than we expected.
Speaker 2: I you know, I kind of wonder there are a
Speaker 2: lot of stories of modern day dragons or dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: I can think of one off the top of my
Speaker 1: head if you want to hear it.
Speaker 2: NeSSI, yeah, we are you gonna say MESSI.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I was gonna do it a long,
Speaker 1: obnoxious story about I ruined that for you in a
Speaker 1: thick Irish accent.
Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot of lakes, even here in Idaho,
Speaker 2: like I'm in Priest Lake, there are these supposed sea
Speaker 2: monsters that are in these lakes.
Speaker 1: So let's go sturgeon fishing at Priest Lake. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's I don't even know where priests I guess,
Speaker 1: but we could see if we can catch a dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Did you see that There was an article about some
Speaker 2: guys who caught a gigantic sturgeon just recently. I think
Speaker 2: it was like fourteen feet long.
Speaker 1: Whoa, And they.
Speaker 2: Are supposedly, you know, the same as they were millions
Speaker 2: of years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're dinosaurs. So if you ever seen one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they told you.
Speaker 1: You got like Pokey's They're they're crazy, they're messed up.
Speaker 2: But it makes you wonder if those have lived that long.
Speaker 2: Who knows what else lived that long?
Speaker 1: Oh? What's that giant shark job, the megalodon? Meglodon? Yeah
Speaker 1: he was nasty, nasty, so nasty, that nasty maglandon son
Speaker 1: of my good.
Speaker 2: But anyway, there's another one, and we got to keep
Speaker 2: moving on this. We're gonna talk for next up. So
Speaker 2: we have that.
Speaker 1: I like the way you tied that into the dinosaurs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you plan that or no?
Speaker 2: It just seemed appropriate when you talked about dinosaurs sausage jumping.
Speaker 1: I went on.
Speaker 2: So if you want to, if you're interested in that,
Speaker 2: just go online. Look up the akambaro of dinosaurs and
Speaker 2: you'll see tons of pictures of these things.
Speaker 1: They're really creepy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steglosaurus, you got, the Platysaurus, you got the Veggisaurus,
Speaker 2: you got all the sauruses.
Speaker 1: Saurus, dinosaurs. Okay, let's keep what up next.
Speaker 2: There's this other thing, and this is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Spiral shaped metal objects.
Speaker 1: How does that sound? Sounds like work to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, okay.
Speaker 2: So, in like the nineteen nineties, like early nineteen nineties,
Speaker 2: by the Ural Mountains, Yeah, people that were digging for gold,
Speaker 2: gold prospectors ran across these small objects that were basically
Speaker 2: like spring. They were coils. They were spiral coils made
Speaker 2: out of different kinds of metal. Now, the larger ones
Speaker 2: were made out of copper, and you know, they were
Speaker 2: maybe three centimeters long or so, which is what maybe
Speaker 2: a quarter of an inch or one point two inches
Speaker 2: long on the biggest ones. And then they also found
Speaker 2: incredibly small ones made out of very rare metals, very
Speaker 2: hard metals, that were like point zero zero three millimeters.
Speaker 1: Whoa, yeah, millimeters or centimeters millimeters millimeters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like really really nice. That's like you have
Speaker 2: to look under a microscope to see.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a machinist, that's like two ten thousands of
Speaker 1: an inch or something. Yeah, less than that even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy small.
Speaker 1: Shout out to James Terry. He knows what I'm feeling
Speaker 1: when we have to hold those tolerances. That's saying.
Speaker 2: They find these objects buried, right, these gold prospectors, and
Speaker 2: then they date them and they're coming back with like
Speaker 2: ages of you know, twenty thousand years old.
Speaker 1: Whoa?
Speaker 2: So even now, Okay, you, as a machinist, if you
Speaker 2: were going to make a small, tiny looking like spring coil,
Speaker 2: really teeny tiny small one, could you make one that
Speaker 2: small out of like some like tungsten or some really
Speaker 2: hard metal.
Speaker 1: I don't. I couldn't. I'm pretty novice. I'm still in training.
Speaker 1: But even with your machines, is there a way that
Speaker 1: you could I think I think that my machines like
Speaker 1: plus or minus two ten thousand seve an inch when
Speaker 1: you make an adjustment. I think I'm not like positive,
Speaker 1: but I think that's about what it can do reliably.
Speaker 1: Were just incredible considering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So to find something smaller than that is like.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're talking almost down to a molecular level, right,
Speaker 2: And to me, that's like that is so crazy. So
Speaker 2: they're finding these objects. Got some pictures of these things
Speaker 2: that they found, and what do you say with that? Well,
Speaker 2: is it like some weird natural accidentally occurring object right
Speaker 2: that you know because of the you know, the genetic
Speaker 2: structure that it actually forms that.
Speaker 1: Shape or I mean you've seen like salt and stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where they like break it down under a microscope and
Speaker 1: it's all like perfect squares and like cubes. It all
Speaker 1: crumbles down into a cubular store or you.
Speaker 2: Can look at like a snowflake or like diamonds with
Speaker 2: certain structures. But this is weird because it's spiral, right.
Speaker 2: I mean they look like a little spring.
Speaker 1: Like a little DNA a DNA strand like me, is
Speaker 1: a blueprint for building a living thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like a yeah, kind of like that,
Speaker 2: except for their singular I don't even know how to describe.
Speaker 2: But this is like freak people out because it's sold
Speaker 2: twenty thousand years old, right, and we don't even necessary
Speaker 2: have the technology to build that kind of stuff today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the kind of metal that they're using in this
Speaker 2: article I was reading the metal is a very very
Speaker 2: hard metal, like what you'd use for like armoring, like
Speaker 2: a military vehicle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't explain exactly what we're doing right now,
Speaker 1: but I have a coworker who's doing some stuff with
Speaker 1: a certain type of steel that does not change under
Speaker 1: different environments like super hot, super cold environments and just stable,
Speaker 1: just yeah, very stable. Just trying to machine it to,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the tolerances are. I'm not working on
Speaker 1: this project specifically, but it's it's pretty rough, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it just goes to show this is nothing
Speaker 2: one of those strange artifacts that they're finding that makes
Speaker 2: you say, huh, yeah, how did something that's supposed to
Speaker 2: be twenty thousand years old? How did they have the
Speaker 2: technology to make something like that?
Speaker 1: Maybe the aliens came down and helped them, well, and
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of this goes. We're the mother
Speaker 1: flipping nephilims well down and help them.
Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about strange timelines, right, so,
Speaker 2: you know, we've talked about extreme ones where you've got,
Speaker 2: you know, an artifact found in a sedimentary layer that's
Speaker 2: you know, three hundred million years old supposedly, right, but
Speaker 2: you also have these other things in more recent history
Speaker 2: that mess up the timelines. And in like one of
Speaker 2: these objects, there are these vases that look very Roman
Speaker 2: found in Brazil. Okay, in a timeline that's just that
Speaker 2: doesn't match up, right, because the Romans, as far as
Speaker 2: we know, never visited Brazil.
Speaker 1: And they're pretty known for catalog and things like. I
Speaker 1: might be wrong, but they're That's kind of their deal is.
Speaker 1: They were like one of the first civilizations to really
Speaker 1: take note of where they've been and what they're doing
Speaker 1: and creating structures for like an alphabet and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Romans were very very you know, regimented, Yeah
Speaker 2: for sure. But anyway, these objects were found in like
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two and they were basically under the water.
Speaker 2: They were found right outside of Rio de Janio in
Speaker 2: the ocean and there were like supposedly these Roman ships
Speaker 2: that were found, and alongside these Roman ships were these
Speaker 2: Roman vases vases, yeah, vases, and they were from the
Speaker 2: third century, so we're talking like three hundred or so eighty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is the Romans never were supposed
Speaker 2: to have made it anywhere near the Americas.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it kind of disrupts the timeline.
Speaker 2: It totally disrupts the timeline you know, of you know,
Speaker 2: what we think the Romans did in that time. And
Speaker 2: you know what's really strange about this is that, I
Speaker 2: guess the vases or vases were found first, and then
Speaker 2: they were brought up and then it's like, hey, these
Speaker 2: are third century, you know, Roman vases. And then they
Speaker 2: found these ships that were in the same area and
Speaker 2: they were rotting and you know, they were basically Roman
Speaker 2: style ships, and lo and behold. The conspiracy goes that
Speaker 2: the Brazilian government went out and buried these things under
Speaker 2: the sand. They basically as soon as they found them,
Speaker 2: knew that they had something that contradicted, you know, the timeline,
Speaker 2: and so that they you know, destroyed or buried the evidence.
Speaker 1: Okay, So they buried them to make them look older,
Speaker 1: or they buried them to make them not discoverable. Not discoverable, Okay,
Speaker 1: so they hid the evidence like, oh, this goes against
Speaker 1: the status quo.
Speaker 2: Let's just right restless under the desert rug. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so you know, this is just one of many stories.
Speaker 2: So there are pictures of.
Speaker 1: These vases that they found, vases, vases, vases.
Speaker 2: Don't have pictures as far as I know, of the
Speaker 2: actual ships that they supposedly found because those were buried
Speaker 2: and destroyed, but they do have these photographic evidence of
Speaker 2: these vases or vases.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing, Okay.
Speaker 2: So along with that, you have other things that mess
Speaker 2: up the timeline or places where people our cultures are
Speaker 2: in places that they're not.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be.
Speaker 2: They found like Viking coins supposedly in Maine in the
Speaker 2: United States, and I.
Speaker 1: Think we brought that some not that particular thing up,
Speaker 1: but I think we mentioned when we were doing the
Speaker 1: petroglyph stuff. I think I mentioned an old petroglyph type
Speaker 1: rock in Portland or yeah, in Oregon that had Viking
Speaker 1: symbols on it, like they was kind of like a
Speaker 1: little bit across the typical idea of what the geographical
Speaker 1: expansion was Yeah.
Speaker 2: And for people that are interested, you can just google
Speaker 2: the stuff we're talking about. You'll find it. It's it's everywhere.
Speaker 2: And in going back to the Roman thing, going back
Speaker 2: to the Roman thing.
Speaker 1: It just shout it, Oh you doing sorry, puppy dog
Speaker 1: made me open the door. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Mean going back to the Roman and the thing you're
Speaker 2: supposedly there are these stories of finding Roman statues in Mexico,
Speaker 2: and you have the Roman bases that we talked about
Speaker 2: in Brazil. You have Roman coins in Ohio. You have
Speaker 2: these things popping up that are just not supposed to
Speaker 2: be there. You have these Viking you know landmarks that's
Speaker 2: that look very Viking like in areas where they're not
Speaker 2: supposed to have.
Speaker 1: Been Ohio Romans and Ohio Romans and Ohio Roman coins,
Speaker 1: like a coastal town, even city. What it shows is that.
Speaker 2: Somehow these coins got to the America's right and then
Speaker 2: they got to Ohio.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Now, it could be you know somebody and you know,
Speaker 2: when they were coming into the country and maybe they
Speaker 2: brought them with them and then you know, as.
Speaker 1: Like a granddad had these and I brought them over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But anyway, it's interesting. There are tons of stories
Speaker 2: like this out there that mess up the timelines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, we're just talking about in this episode
Speaker 2: the artifacts. In next episode, I think we should go
Speaker 2: into some of the other things. There are archaeological and
Speaker 2: you know, naturally forming types of things that argue against
Speaker 2: the kind of age or at least the timelines that
Speaker 2: we know of.
Speaker 1: So we're going less Indiana Jones and more drastic party
Speaker 1: kind of. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, just for instance, you have trees that
Speaker 2: grow up through different layers of sediment. So you've got
Speaker 2: like in the sedimentary layers, you maybe have you know,
Speaker 2: a million years of history in the sedimentary layers. But
Speaker 2: there's a tree inexplicably growing up between all of those layers.
Speaker 2: So the tree isn't millions of years.
Speaker 1: Old, almost as though like the layers have piled around
Speaker 1: the tree. Really cool, the tree had grown over it
Speaker 1: over its lifetime.
Speaker 2: So something happened that messed up that timeline. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of evidence for this, like in the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of evidence for this, Like in Mount
Speaker 2: Saint Helens when it erupted, it created these rapid layers
Speaker 2: of stratifications that by all intents and purposes if you
Speaker 2: were to analyze them after the fact, not knowing that
Speaker 2: it happened in a volcano over a few days or
Speaker 2: weeks or months, that you know, you've got millions of
Speaker 2: years of history. The problem is it happened very quickly,
Speaker 2: and there's a natural reason for that. But I don't
Speaker 2: want to get into that yet. That's a different topic
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, so of those those other
Speaker 2: kinds of things that mess up timelines. And you know, honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to argue for Young Earth or Older
Speaker 2: Earth or anything. I'm just trying to say, hey, something's
Speaker 2: not right here. There isn't this neat, tidy little theory
Speaker 2: that makes everything work. Things are messed up from any angle,
Speaker 2: they're messed up. And you have to have a grain
Speaker 2: of salt in your logic model so that you cannot
Speaker 2: predispose your mind towards one thing at the expense of
Speaker 2: any other possibility. You got to be able to keep
Speaker 2: an open mind about this. And that's why I find
Speaker 2: this fascinating, because I mean, sure you can mix in
Speaker 2: your religious, you know, perspectives, mix in your your scientific perspectives,
Speaker 2: or your personal preference or you can throw in the
Speaker 2: fringe stuff with aliens and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Or maybe we're all just some kind of giant simulization
Speaker 2: simulization where you're going for we're just yeah, maybe we're
Speaker 2: just some kind of giant simulationization simulation, he said, simulization,
Speaker 2: which is a simulation of civilization.
Speaker 1: Deep in this fringe most.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's gonna be fun. We got a little,
Speaker 2: you know, more things to talk about. We can get
Speaker 2: into weird technology that they've found that maybe isn't like
Speaker 2: as old as some of these artifacts, but it's technology
Speaker 2: that shouldn't exist in the timeframe that it's found, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Say, oh, that's aliens or whatever.
Speaker 2: Weird structures, you know, got like structures that are like
Speaker 2: created with like really precise cuts and stone and somehow
Speaker 2: stacked together pyramids whatever.
Speaker 1: You got these.
Speaker 2: Weird things that you can only see from the air,
Speaker 2: like these giant.
Speaker 1: Those like ant things, where are those at? And the
Speaker 1: Middle East, I don't know what, like giant rock formations
Speaker 1: that kind of make an ant stacked them into like
Speaker 1: a bug shape. Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2: And then you got down in South America, you got
Speaker 2: all these weird kind of like things you can only
Speaker 2: see from like way up in the air, of like
Speaker 2: giant figurines and drawings and stuff, and then it's yeah, maybe, yeah,
Speaker 2: those kinds of things. There's the footprint stuff that we
Speaker 2: talked about in and just you know, very briefly about
Speaker 2: why are there footprints alongside dinosaur foot prints? Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I had heard about this when I was young, probably
Speaker 2: in like the eighties or nineties, and then it was
Speaker 2: supposedly discounted because oh yeah, it wasn't that it was
Speaker 2: a baby dinosaur that kind of eroded to make it
Speaker 2: look like a human footprint, and so I kind of
Speaker 2: just said, hey, yeah, poo poo that whole thing. But
Speaker 2: now I realized there's not just like that one thing.
Speaker 2: There are like hundreds of these things.
Speaker 1: Several different avenues to go down well.
Speaker 2: And there's just a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: Of them, you know. The thing that really gets me
Speaker 1: well is like this, I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: theory or what you would call it, but where a
Speaker 1: mosquito lands on a dinosaur, okay, and then that mosquito
Speaker 1: lands on a tree, and then that tree has sap
Speaker 1: and the mosquito gets caught in the south and that
Speaker 1: turns into like what they call amber amber, and then
Speaker 1: they're able to extract the dinosaur dnad the amber and
Speaker 1: make actual living dinosaurs by combining that DNA with a
Speaker 1: frog or whatever else they need to do. And then
Speaker 1: that turns into a hold debacle where we got to
Speaker 1: figure out how to contain.
Speaker 2: That ormaphrodites and they could be both male and females
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 1: They are very adaptable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting stuff. So another thing we'll talk about too,
Speaker 2: maybe if we can get to it, is they found
Speaker 2: like human remains and stratifications of rock and sediment that
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to be into, and so it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're finding humans in like layers of rock
Speaker 2: that's supposedly, you know, two hundred million years old, one
Speaker 2: hundred million years old. Hey, we're not supposed to be
Speaker 2: there yet. What's going on, right? And so there's those
Speaker 2: kind of things. If we get the time in this,
Speaker 2: I think we should talk about it because what I
Speaker 2: like about it the strange part is it totally disrupts
Speaker 2: the timelines, and for some reason that turns my crank,
Speaker 2: not because I'm trying to prove anything but just because
Speaker 2: I like it when things go strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when things kind of get out of the norm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of the same way, like quirky things, yeah,
Speaker 1: fringe things. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Well even like right now, what's going on with like
Speaker 2: the coronavirus and vaccines, and you know, everybody's pushing vaccines,
Speaker 2: but everybody's pushing back against vaccines. Who knows what's really real?
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, I want to just find the
Speaker 1: most conspiracy stuff as possible. Yeah, yeah, what do you believe?
Speaker 1: You know exactly? It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: But what I do like is that in this podcast,
Speaker 2: we stir the pot. Yeah, you know, and we're starting
Speaker 2: the pot with this stuff, and I hope you can
Speaker 2: pull out the things you want to believe in, and
Speaker 2: maybe what you believe in is that you're not going
Speaker 2: to believe in anything that somebody says just because they
Speaker 2: say it's scientific, or because they say it's religious, or
Speaker 2: because they say it's aliens, whatever it is. You got
Speaker 2: to find out what's true.
Speaker 1: I think our hashtag for our podcast could be hashtag
Speaker 1: get off the bandwagon. Get off the bandwagon. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't just do something because that's what everybody else believes
Speaker 1: do something because that's what you find logical, and that's
Speaker 1: what you believe. Like, don't follow a specific point of
Speaker 1: view because it's social. That's what I learned at school.
Speaker 1: That's what I learned at Sunday School.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like Fox Moulder, he says, I
Speaker 2: want to believe, you know, that's maybe we should adapt that.
Speaker 2: I want to believe the truth, right, But I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what that is. Yeah, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: it is, but I'm gonna figure out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep thinking about it and keep wondering about it,
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to just you know, close my
Speaker 2: ears to something because it's not what I want to hear.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Yeah, anyway, I think that's like if
Speaker 1: you could sum up our podcast as a whole and
Speaker 1: be just googling around. And we have our we have
Speaker 1: our little biases. Sure, I think we both do. But
Speaker 1: I think our biases come with our life experiences and
Speaker 1: whether or not those but take ticular life experiences, where
Speaker 1: biased or not, I think they affect our lives differently.
Speaker 1: So if somebody else has a different life view and
Speaker 1: the things they hear and receive are based on those
Speaker 1: life views, they should be open to hearing other life vies.
Speaker 2: Well, on that happy note, now that we've not solved anything,
Speaker 2: now given permission for people to try to solve everything
Speaker 2: figured out, maybe, yeah, maybe we should close this off
Speaker 2: and so we can all go to bed and ponder
Speaker 2: this in our nightly reminitions.
Speaker 1: Most certainly yes, So join us next time for some
Speaker 1: cold drinks and some strange conversations. Absolutely daters