WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.160 The Mandy Connall Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 2 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:04.679 Accident and Injury Lawyers. 3 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:14.599 No, it's Mandy Connelly, Dona. 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:20.399 Ninem God wait to saday him the ny US through 5 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:27.079 Fred Mandy Connell where sad Day, Welcome. 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.440 Local, Welcome to a Friday edition to the show. I'm 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.119 your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connall joined 8 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:33.880 today for at least are you with me the whole 9 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.759 show or part of the show. Whole show? Yay, Grant 10 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.159 tis back with us for the full three hours and 11 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.200 before we jump into the blog because mainly got a 12 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.000 lot of stuff coming up. If you don't listen to 13 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.479 Ross's show right before mine, and why wouldn't you, I mean, 14 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.399 it's awesome. But at the end of his show every 15 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.759 Friday he does a version of name that Tune, and 16 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.600 today I got to choose the song. And because my 17 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.840 husband started in rock radio when he was fifteen, back 18 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.799 in nineteen seventy late seventies, some point, his his depth 19 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.799 of knowledge about classic rock is far deeper and wider 20 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.200 than mine. So I enlisted his help. I said, okay, hey, 21 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.359 what are we doing here? And he found five songs, 22 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.599 a few of them I had never even heard of, Like, 23 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:18.239 even after he told me what the songs are, I'm like, 24 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.079 I got nothing. But he helped me choose today's song, 25 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.959 which was walk on the Wildside by Lou Reed. Stumped 26 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.359 Grant but did not stump Ross, so that was good 27 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.640 because Ross never wins. So, you know, I wanted to 28 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.439 throw on the bone. But then a listener sent a 29 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:35.079 text specific to Chuck, so I thought I would just 30 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:41.079 call Chuck, my husband and ask him the questions about this. Hello, dear, Hello. Okay. 31 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.359 You know in my it was nineteen seventy eight and 32 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.359 since then, every time anybody on the air has ever 33 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.200 called me, I'm like, okay, what's going on because some 34 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.079 of these are not gone. Well, so I have no 35 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.000 idea why you're calling. 36 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.640 I just heard No this is easy, Yeah, this is easy. 37 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:57.480 Well, I don't know. 38 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.400 It's not easy at all to me. The guy sent 39 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.280 me this text message, Mandy, how deep does Chuck go? 40 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.719 Phason stop with camel deep? I don't even know what 41 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:11.520 that means? What phason stop with camel deep? 42 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.319 What is that? That sounds familiar? 43 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.240 Now I'm gonna look it up. So obviously not stop 44 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:24.000 with camel Okay, let's see here phase, stop with Camel 45 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.520 the miraculous hump returns from the Moonson. 46 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.960 Okay, that sounds familiar. 47 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.840 Bit I stop with cambell Is. Apparently the band See 48 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:37.159 that's what I thought, But they didn't jar did they know? 49 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.919 Because the rule is that these songs have to chart 50 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:41.039 at some point. 51 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:42.039 See I never knew that. 52 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:47.159 But yeah, okay, how about this one from the same texture. 53 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.960 How about this one Sufficiently Breathless by Captain Beyond. 54 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.439 I think he was part of the Doctor Demento show 55 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.520 at one point. Captain Beyond, If that's the same guy, 56 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.159 I'm maybe wrong, So don't don't call me the listener. 57 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:03.439 Maybe going to know you idiots. 58 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.560 It's an American rock supergroup formed in Los Angeles in 59 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.639 nineteen seventy one, consisting of Deep Purple singer Rod Evans, 60 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.039 former Johnny Winter drummer Bobby Caldwell, former Iron Butterfly guitarist 61 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:19.000 Larry Reinhart, and former Iron Butterfly bassist Lee Dorman. 62 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.560 Yes, I had that confused with something else. I know 63 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.960 what he's talking about. That now you know what's really? 64 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.800 What's what's really. I'm the youngest of sixth first off. 65 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.080 And my oldest brother is sixteen years older than me. 66 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:33.400 So he listened to to do Wop, you know, because 67 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.560 I was born in sixty four and so I and 68 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.120 my dad was, you know, a World War two vet. 69 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:40.840 So he's listening to Glenn Miller. 70 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:41.759 I love it all. 71 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.080 Yeah, there's and you know as well as I do. 72 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:45.919 You can walk in the house and they'll be Gregorian 73 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.080 chant on. I don't care. 74 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:50.680 Yeah, there's just I like, oh, it's it's Fa Zone. 75 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:52.599 Fa Zone is the name of the song. 76 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.280 Okay, yeah, yeah, And I would have never thought of 77 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:57.840 that one mean, I wouldn't have remembered that. 78 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.879 Just wait, wait a minute, Chuck, I just realized that 79 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.800 forgot something. Hey, Grant, it's Friday. That means all together 80 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:09.840 now woo okay, sorry, Texter, please ask check about the 81 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.919 Flying Burrito Brothers. Everybody knows about the Flying Burrito Brothers. 82 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.520 So the Flying Burrito Brothers used to play a bar 83 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.240 in my hometown that you've been to and Grant has 84 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:22.519 been to, called the Union. And then they had friends 85 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.560 in a band called the Bogus Brothers, of course, and 86 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.279 if you you can look up the Bogus Brothers, I 87 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.680 mean they have a I think they have a Wikipedia pagey, 88 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:31.160 what did they go. 89 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:32.199 Eat at the burrito Buggy? 90 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.160 Let's see if you were taking my thunder there. That 91 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:38.800 was prior to the burrito Buggy. Now that's when the 92 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:39.759 bagel Buggy was. 93 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:41.000 Oh, the bagel Buggy. 94 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:42.560 Yeah, that was the seventies. 95 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.199 This is what you guys miss when you don't go 96 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:45.879 to Athens, Ohio screaming at the. 97 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.639 At the uh at the radio right now because he 98 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.319 went to OU and he knows what all this is. 99 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:54.240 Yeah, exactly, all right, that's all I wanted. I just 100 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:56.040 wanted to see if you know what those things were. 101 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:57.920 So I actually feel better that you didn't, because I 102 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:58.480 sure didn't. 103 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:00.439 Well, I know what they are. I just would have 104 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.680 never pulled him out, is remember, and once you sounded 105 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.319 like okay, I remember that, but you know it wasn't 106 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:06.839 something that was fresh in my mind. 107 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.079 All right, and Ross Scott it in Wait a. 108 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:10.680 Minute here you you Ross did get it? 109 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.519 Yes, he did. How how much of the interest is 110 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:15.879 one point two seconds? He got it? 111 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:18.959 Okay? Well, yeah, I was playing youero point eight seconds. 112 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:20.240 Yeah, I know, but I have to make it over 113 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:21.399 one second to the first row. 114 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:22.199 Yeah you know. 115 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:23.199 Once again he owes me. 116 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:24.160 All right, my friend. 117 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:25.920 I love you, have a great day. I look. 118 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.399 Okay, now we're going to do the blog. Go to 119 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:32.399 mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the 120 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.879 headline that says nine to twenty seven twenty four blog 121 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.439 a deep dive on ranked choice voting with Kent theory. 122 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:39.959 Click on that and here are the headlines you will 123 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.399 find within Anything. 124 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.240 Wants in Office, Happened Iragon, All Ships in Time? 125 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.920 That's as Plant Today and the blog The people who 126 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.639 want to ban a Slaughterhouse are on today This as 127 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.079 the slaughterhouse is upgrading after an EPA fine, Let's do 128 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.480 a deep dive on ranked choice voting comedian Matthew Brossard 129 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.680 Today at two thirty a Colorado jove, which leaves the 130 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.160 morons in charge of the GOP. The Abs and Nuggets 131 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.360 are back on TV Aurora PD looking for another known 132 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.000 gang member. What happens when you stand up to the 133 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.759 DPS mob. The slum lords are continuing to slum lord. 134 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.800 Why is RTD hiding? Why they fired the chief Caraveo's 135 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.120 lying about Evans's positions. C dot doesn't care if we 136 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.680 want to drive. The Independence Institute has released their voter Guide. 137 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:29.399 An alleged journalist dosed JD vance scrolling. Yes, there were 138 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:34.720 Feds there on January sixth. Inflation is almost at two percent. Yes, 139 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:39.279 Democrats want to weaponize DOJ Dave Maggie Smith has passed away. 140 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.680 Men share the realities of being divorced. You really should 141 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.600 go to Japan and South Korea with US stem cell treatments. 142 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.759 Cured type one diabetes, the funniest wildlife photos of the year. 143 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.560 Yahoo unleashes on the un a lovely video about people 144 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.639 using wheelchairs. Those are the headlines on the blog at 145 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.680 Mandy's blog dot com. 146 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:00.759 So there you go. 147 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.040 I've got a lot of stuff on the blog today 148 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.319 and we've got three guests coming up. The first guess 149 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.560 Mandy Less blogmore Chuck, y'all. I have to live with him, 150 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.639 and if he gets too famous, he will become insufferable. 151 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.600 And our relationship only has room for one person who 152 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.480 is insufferable because of a minor level of fame, and 153 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:21.079 that is me. 154 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.040 If you need two and a half hours of Chuck, 155 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.720 go listen to my episode of the podcast for Granted 156 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:28.800 podcast with Chuck. 157 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.759 Yeah, Grant did a whole interview with him. So there 158 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.319 you go there, you go today, we are going to 159 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.439 hear from Pro Animal Future. They are the organization that 160 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.399 is running the slaughterhouse band that is trying to shut 161 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:48.279 down a slaughterhouse in Denver, and ultimately it's about making 162 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:50.759 a seat less meat. That is the end result. Making 163 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.000 as eat no meat would be the end perfect result. 164 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.120 But we're going to talk about this. I did let 165 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:57.959 them know that I am against this measure, but we're 166 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.680 gonna let them come on and have a converse about it, 167 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.000 and maybe they will be able to convince some of you, 168 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:05.920 whereas they will not be able to convince me. So 169 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.480 that's where we're going to be there. But it's going 170 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.199 to be a respectful conversation. It'll be interesting and you know, 171 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.680 maybe you learn something. We also have Kent theory coming on. 172 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.040 I told you when I was talking about ranked choice 173 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.560 voting the other day and I was like, I've been 174 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.279 going back and forth and back and forth, and I 175 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.199 have concerns, and I think my concerns are valid, but 176 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.360 I can't figure out if there are long term concerns 177 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.480 or short term concerns. And so Kent theory is part 178 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.080 of the group that is behind this ranked choice voting 179 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.720 valid initiative. So we're going to talk to Kent and 180 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.639 I'm excited to have a conversation with him about that 181 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.679 and we'll hopefully get all of your questions answered. Then 182 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.200 at two thirty, comedian Matthew Brissard is coming in. I'm 183 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:49.240 excited about that. He's very funny. I accidentally stumbled onto 184 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.919 him because of an algorithm, like you know, push by YouTube, 185 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.440 and he's very, very funny, and he reminds me of 186 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.200 all the guys that I knew at the country club 187 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.360 when I was growing up, like just that, but in 188 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.679 a good way, in a very funny, very funny way. 189 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.919 So I put a video of his on the blog 190 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.720 today and if you want to see what he's about, 191 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.720 he's playing at Comedy Works this weekend, so you can 192 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.639 do that. So yesterday, right before I came in the 193 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.240 came on the show yesterday, there was a ruling that 194 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.440 was announced that a judge had decided the meeting that 195 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:30.080 was held to unseat Dave Williams as the disastrous chairman 196 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:34.120 of the GOP was found to be illegal or illegitimate 197 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.519 rather because it did not have enough members of the 198 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:41.080 Central Committee to meet the supermajority standard. And that means 199 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.279 that Dave Williams is going to stay in charge of 200 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.360 the Colorado GOP. So as I was listening to the 201 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.000 news story, I went online to the Secretary of State's 202 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.600 office and actually did change my voter registration to unaffiliated. 203 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.720 I successfully did it. I got a confirmation from the 204 00:09:55.759 --> 00:10:00.279 Secretary of State's office. So I am out, they say, 205 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.799 and here's the reason. I don't know what else to do. 206 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:11.320 I don't have any desire to engage with the people 207 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.679 who are keeping this man in power because they don't 208 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.399 care about winning. And here's what's going to happen. Here's 209 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.639 exactly what's going to happen. When a Republican loses a 210 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:25.240 winnable race that that Republican should have won in this state. 211 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.279 David Williams is going to turn around and say, if 212 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.600 only those bad Republicans hadn't tried to upset us, we 213 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:36.080 would have focused like a laser on getting everyone elected. 214 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:40.080 All that man is doing is looting the party resources 215 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:46.600 and what else. He's not raising money, he's not supporting 216 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.399 the candidatestead of running. He's not fielding candidates for every race. 217 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:53.159 There are multiple races across the state where there's not 218 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.200 even a Republican candidate. There were no vacancy committee meetings. 219 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.159 These are all functions of the Colorado State Party, the 220 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.279 one that he allegedly has been leading, and the fundraising 221 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.519 that is happening is somehow being funneled back into his pocket, 222 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.600 either through his consulting firm, which I'd love to see 223 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:16.600 exactly what they're consulting on. As chairman at the GP, 224 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.120 who are you consulting with? You're consulting with yourself and 225 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.279 then drifting off of donations to the Republican Party to 226 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.919 pay yourself and he's taking an eight thousand dollars a 227 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.960 month salary. I guess now, I don't know. Nobody knows. Well, 228 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.759 why don't you look at the Expenditure Committee, the expenditures 229 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.000 that have been reported, and if you're a Republican who's 230 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.639 given money to that party, I don't even understand how 231 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.480 that's okay with you. I really don't. You're being stolen 232 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:47.200 from In my worldview, they are taking your money and 233 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.039 they are using it for their own gain. They are 234 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.759 not using it to help Republicans get elected. They've done 235 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.960 nothing but discourage people wanting to be a part of 236 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.600 the party. So I'm obliging them. 237 00:11:58.639 --> 00:11:58.960 I'm out. 238 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.240 I do realize this means I have permanently missed my 239 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.480 opportunity to be on the Rhino Wall of Shame because 240 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.159 now I'm no longer a publican in name at all. 241 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.320 So I missed that window that's slam shut, and I'm devastated, 242 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:15.320 just devastated. 243 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:17.000 Ah. 244 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:21.639 Yes, Mandy, I have to laugh at you infants who 245 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.799 think lou Reed is classic rock. Maybe early club music, 246 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.279 but classic rock it ain't. But Steve, it charted on 247 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:32.679 the rock charts, it played on rock radio, so that 248 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:37.759 means it fits into the category that Ross set forward. Mandy. 249 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.159 The divorce men's stories are sad. We're gonna get to 250 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:44.320 this later, but most of them come across as guys 251 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:49.480 that never stood up from themselves in their relationships. Yeah 252 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:54.519 maybe maybe maybe, Mandy, Thank you and check for the 253 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:56.759 name of that tune. Song took me back to high 254 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.000 school nineteen seventy two and seventy three. When the album 255 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.240 came out. We had our fiftieth high school reunion last weekend. 256 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:05.159 Oh to be young again, you know you guys. Funny 257 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:10.080 weird story. So I just realized I graduated in nineteen 258 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.000 eighty seven. Okay, so my daughter is going to graduate 259 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.519 from high school exactly forty years later, because I was 260 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.120 almost forty when I had her, and I was thinking 261 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.960 to myself, Wow, when my daughter graduates from high school, 262 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.240 that is going to be my fortieth class reunion. And 263 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.559 I had this flashback moment where I was in a 264 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.759 restaurant in my hometown with a bunch of my friends 265 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:32.440 and we were just having dinner and I was in college. 266 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.559 I think when this happened, I was old enough to 267 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.399 have driven there and be paying for my own meal. 268 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.720 And a group of people came in and to us, 269 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.240 they just looked like a bunch of old people, and 270 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.559 they were having a great time and just causing a 271 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.440 ruckus and you know, just really being kind of funny. 272 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.120 And I remember thinking, God, those old people are out 273 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.720 of control. And then I remember learning that they were 274 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.840 in town for their fortieth class reunion, and I thought 275 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:03.600 to myself, my god, they're ancient. They're ancient. And then 276 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.759 I really was kind of judgy because they were acting 277 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.360 so silly and just having a great time that I 278 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:10.600 was like, they should be they should act better than that. 279 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:17.960 You know, they're old, they're elderly, grand elderly. And then 280 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:20.000 I realized to myself, that's exactly how I'm gonna be 281 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:21.360 with my friends when I go back for my four 282 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.720 year class reunion. I'm gonna be the exact same way. 283 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.120 Because you get back together with your friends from high 284 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:29.000 school and you start reminiscing about the stuff you guys did, 285 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.799 and then you reckon. You sort of wonder that you're 286 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.960 not dead or paralyzed, but then you're just you kind 287 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:36.960 of get taken back in time. I just remember being 288 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:43.840 very judgy about that. I mean very judgy, very Texter Mandy. 289 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.559 By resigning from the Colorado Republican Party, are you missing 290 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.279 the opportunity to be part of a solution? Double edged sword? 291 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.720 I know, here's the issue. The issue is not just 292 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.679 with Dave Williams. It's really not. It's with the willingness 293 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.200 enough members of the Central Committee to go along with 294 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.399 what this fool wants. That demonstrates to me that there's 295 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:09.080 enough of them in power positions that whatever I tried 296 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.200 to do would immediately be shouted down, and so I'd 297 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:15.879 rather sit on the outside. I actually think the only 298 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.120 saving grace for this state from this point forward is 299 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:22.639 going to be in independent candidates that have the money 300 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.519 to get the word out and build up support initially 301 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.279 and can run at you know, as a center right person. 302 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.879 That's the only checker balance we're going to have on 303 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.440 the progressive left in Colorado, because the Republican Party is 304 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:41.399 just done. It's done, and you've essentially thrown your weight 305 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.720 and your support behind a guy who has failed at 306 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:49.519 every metric at his job, every single metric. Raise money, nope, 307 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:56.879 Support candidates, nope. Create vacancy committees to get candidates for races, nope. Oh, 308 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.240 let's look at the positive column. Griff didn't take it 309 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.120 all the money that you've actually managed to rings, which 310 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:05.039 is almost nothing. Check. So I don't have anything in 311 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:10.360 common with the Colorado Republican Party at all, not even 312 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.960 a little bit. Mandy, I'm heading to Peblo for a 313 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.600 rivalry high school football game. I know the class of 314 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:21.480 eighty four is celebrating their fortieth reunion this weekend. I 315 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.600 think that's a good idea, like making your big class 316 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.039 reunions the same weekend as homecoming or something like that. 317 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.480 That would be really fun. Ours are always in the summer, 318 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.679 and y'all, I cannot do Florida in the summer anymore. 319 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.440 I can't, jeez, Louise, it's hotter than blazes there. By 320 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.559 the way, everyone in my immediate sphere of family and 321 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.600 friends is okay from the hurricane. Some of them had 322 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:49.600 some significant damage to their homes, but otherwise everybody's all right. 323 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:53.080 And they did say, and I quote, it was scary 324 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:57.639 as hell, so yeah, at least that one was moving faster. 325 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.759 Mandy was the judge a Democrat sabotaging the party, y'all? 326 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.879 At this point, I think Dave Williams is a Democrat. 327 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:06.960 I really believe. If I'm the Democratic Party and I'm 328 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.039 some Machiavellian version of the Democratic Party, I am finding 329 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.440 a guy like Dave Williams who's charismatic enough to get 330 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.279 a bunch of people to follow him, even if he's 331 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:19.680 an idiot, right, and then I'm gonna launch him into 332 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.680 a political career and into a leadership position in the 333 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.000 party and just watch him burn it all down. You 334 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.799 won't even have to actually mount a campaign. Do you 335 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:38.319 just let the Republicans just just destroy themselves, absolutely destroy themselves. Mandy, 336 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.880 You judge, all you do is judge, hell, You to 337 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.359 hell to hell, you judge people on the type of 338 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:47.960 car they drive, You're just an ankle that's gonna leave 339 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:48.319 a mark. 340 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:48.640 Texter. 341 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.400 I'm well thought out, stinger. You just fired off right there, 342 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.359 go back and read it again and you're yes, I judge. 343 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.319 Here's the thing, y'all, you judge too. I'm just open 344 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.799 about it. Everybody has their moments of judgment, right, everybody does. 345 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:06.559 And by the way, I don't judge people on the 346 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.640 kind of car they have, unless you're a super driver, 347 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:14.240 in which you're horrible, I will judge you. There you go. 348 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:22.720 In any case, Mandy, I'm inspired by you to do 349 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.839 likewise changing my party affiliation. Is there any downside in 350 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.119 not being a registered Republican that I'm not considering now 351 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.480 that I can still vote in the primary? No, because 352 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:34.960 if you are unaffiliated in Colorado, you get both ballots. 353 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.960 You get a Democratic ballot, you get a Republican ballot. 354 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.799 You only fill out one, so you can continue to 355 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.319 vote in the Republican primary, as I plan to do, 356 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.200 unless ranked choice voting passes, in which case all of 357 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.799 this will turn into something much much different. And when 358 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.680 we get back, we are going to have the first 359 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:55.720 of what I hope to be many in the next 360 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.240 couple of weeks discussions about various platform or excuse me, 361 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.039 ballot and ititiatives. And coming up next, we've got Natalie 362 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.440 with Pro Animal Future coming on. She is going to 363 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:12.039 she is going to try and argue that Denver needs 364 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.599 to shut down a slaughterhouse. And I'm looking forward to 365 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:19.079 the conversation and we'll see if she convinces anyone in 366 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:23.720 this audience. We shall see right after this. Natalie Fulton, 367 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.119 she works with Pro Animal Future and they have two 368 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.720 ballot initiatives on the ballot in Denver. One is Initiative 369 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.720 three TOHO eight, and that would ban the use of 370 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.000 fur from animals that are solely grown for the purpose 371 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.720 of fur. Is that correct, Natalie, Oh, hang on, let 372 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:42.039 grant turn your microphone. I'll go ahead. 373 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:45.160 That's correct. There's some other exemptions as well. Okay, that's 374 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:45.839 the gist of it. 375 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.359 And then three oh nine would close a slaughterhouse that 376 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:52.559 has been operating in Denver for a very long time, 377 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:53.640 also correct. 378 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.200 Also correct, for about seventy years. They have been polluting 379 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:56.599 the city. 380 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.119 So let me ask you to tell us a little 381 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.559 bit about Pro Animal Future to start, so we know 382 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:02.960 where you're coming from totally. 383 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.200 So I want to start by explaining the concept of 384 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:10.079 agricultural exceptionalism, which is the romanticized idea of animal farming 385 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.319 that many people share. When we're kids, were taught old 386 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.000 Nick Donald, head of Farm, that farmed animals have happy 387 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:20.640 lives and nice deaths. This could not be further from 388 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.720 the truth. Over ninety nine percent of animal products come 389 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.400 from factory farms, where animals are confined on deplorable and 390 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:32.640 deplorable conditions, They're denied their natural behaviors, and they're slaughtered 391 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.000 at a small fraction of their natural lifespan. The presidential 392 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.519 debate revealed massive inconsistencies in the way society views animals. 393 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:43.480 We were horrified by the idea of eating dogs and 394 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:47.480 eating cats, but scientific evidence has confirmed that the animals 395 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.200 we eat are just as emotionally complex as the animals 396 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:52.839 we love at home. We think it's time to update 397 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.119 our morality along with that knowledge and evolve away from 398 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:57.839 treating animals as objects. 399 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.559 So ultimately, the goal of pro animal future is to 400 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:01.519 have no one eat meat. 401 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:03.240 That is not the goal. 402 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.200 Our nearby goal for the next few decades is to 403 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.440 ban factory farming in the United States. As far as 404 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.519 eating meat, I would love to see a world where 405 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.079 no animals are harmed for meat. The first time I 406 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.599 went to a slaughterhouse was a pig facility in Michigan, 407 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.119 and I watched as workers beat the pigs off the 408 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.000 trucks they forced them inside, and then I heard the 409 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:25.000 screams of pigs as they were killed in gas chambers. 410 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:26.920 And I think some people could hear that story and think, 411 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.480 you know, maybe there's just a better way to do it, 412 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.319 And some people would think we should stop doing this completely. 413 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.160 But the cool thing about our measures is that it's 414 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.759 a step in the right direction for both groups, for 415 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.880 anyone who thinks that industrialized slaughter is bad, or for 416 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.759 anyone who thinks that we should completely move away from it. 417 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:46.359 We're tackling at the factory farming level right now. 418 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:49.039 So philosophically, I am on the other side of this issue. 419 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:51.640 I am a carnivore. I think that our teeth structure, 420 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.440 in our eyeplacement shows that we are predators, and therefore 421 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:57.480 we are sort of biologically programmed to eat meat. And 422 00:21:57.640 --> 00:21:59.799 I too, have also been to a slaughterhouse. When I 423 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:02.279 was ten, my dad wanted us to understand what the 424 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:04.039 cycle of life was for our food. I lived in 425 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.279 a rural area. He never wanted me to think my 426 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.480 meat came from the grocery store, right. He always wanted 427 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:10.680 us to have that connection. That's great. I also knew 428 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:12.720 a lot of farmers and ranchers growing up, So I 429 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:14.720 knew these people and I knew the kind of people 430 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:16.279 that they were, and I was on their farms and 431 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.480 I saw how they treated their cows, and it was 432 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:20.640 a much different experience than the one you describe. I'm 433 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.680 not saying that you're what you're saying is wrong, because 434 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.960 I am aware that there are bad actors in every industry, 435 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.240 including farming. 436 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:29.519 Absolutely, and kind of to speak to that. Over the 437 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.599 last couple decades, animal farming has really consolidated. The average 438 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.759 slaughterhouse is double the size that it was in nineteen eighty. 439 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.839 These big, massive corporations have put a lot of the 440 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.759 small farmers out of business. But even if an animal 441 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.599 has a great life on a small farm, they're still 442 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.759 going to be slaughtered at a small fraction of the 443 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.640 natural lifespan. What if I had a dog and I said, 444 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.680 I'm going to give him a great life for six 445 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:55.920 months and then send him to a slaughterhouse. Would you 446 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:56.440 support that? 447 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:59.559 No, that's a ridiculous assertion, because the only reason that 448 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.799 those exist is for food. We would not have the 449 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.599 numbers of herds, we would not have the heads of 450 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.319 cattle if we did not use them for food or 451 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.359 get milk from them to use for food. So to 452 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.400 say I'm going to have a pet that its purpose 453 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:17.240 is much different than that of an animal, to make 454 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.680 that comparison to me is in our culture a little 455 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:21.400 bit ridiculous. 456 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.200 I want to push back because there are many cultures 457 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.279 where they do breed dogs just to eat that. 458 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:28.200 Sure, I think ogriculture. Sure. 459 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.359 Do you think culture is a good barometer for morality 460 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:33.519 or should we look at scientific evidence? You know, there 461 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.920 was a time in our culture where men had complete 462 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.400 dominance over women. You and me wouldn't be allowed to 463 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.759 be working the jobs that we have now if we 464 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.960 just looked at culture to determine our morality. I'm saying 465 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.759 that culture should change based on a new understanding of 466 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.200 the world. The agriculture revolution was ten thousand years ago. 467 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.039 Our ancestors didn't know what we know about animal sentience 468 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.200 and behavior. They also didn't know that we can be 469 00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.920 healthy without doing this, And now that we do know 470 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.599 of that stuff, do you think it's time to evolve 471 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:03.359 with the times. 472 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:05.799 I think it should be a matter of personal choice, 473 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.599 and I think the agenda behind this, quite frankly, is 474 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.079 to make meat so expensive by shutting down the available 475 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:14.160 slaughterhouses in our area, that it becomes out of reach 476 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:16.039 by design for a lot of people. 477 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.200 Animal agriculture receives billions of dollars in government subsidies every 478 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.680 single year. Without this government support, animal products would cost 479 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:25.799 two to four times more than they currently do. A 480 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.839 big mac would be thirteen dollars. This industry is already 481 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.720 supported by the government. The average dairy farm hasn't been profitable. 482 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.960 It's only been profitable for two years in the last 483 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:39.200 twenty years because of all the government support that they get. 484 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.839 The only reason so many people eat meat is because 485 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:46.079 it's artificially lowered, and our measures would only affect right 486 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.440 now the cost of lamb, which is already a premium 487 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:50.599 meat that low income people cannot afford. 488 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.839 So stee but that's a very that's a very nanny 489 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.039 state answer, because ultimately you're saying we've already priced it 490 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.200 out of the market. The nanty state is telling other 491 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:04.839 people the choices they should make. Yeah, that's what you're 492 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.359 trying to set up, though. That's the endgame is to 493 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.319 make it impossible for more people to be able to 494 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.839 afford a premium meat. That's the end game here. 495 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:17.240 The endgame is to eliminate the factory farming system. But 496 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.599 let me ask you this. We agree that humans should 497 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.519 have a choice, should animals not have a choice? 498 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:25.039 And humans on the same level, on the same level. 499 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.039 I don't have to because it's not the choice between 500 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.759 humans and animals. I put pigs, chickens, and cows at 501 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.720 the same level as dogs and cats because that's what 502 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:36.359 the scientific evidence shows. Do you think that we should 503 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.000 take what they want into account? 504 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.880 You know, here's the thing about that specifically. I have 505 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.799 a dog. I love my dog. I absolutely love my dog. 506 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.279 But if I were starving, I would eat my dog 507 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.799 for the same say it is, I mean, it's like. 508 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.680 But I understand, but none of us is starving right now. 509 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:54.480 Farms. 510 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.480 We are trying to ban factory farms, but superior farms. 511 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:01.160 The industrial slaughterhouse, the largest industrial lampslaughterhouse in the US, 512 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:04.240 is the face of factory farming. Here in Denver. Industrial 513 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.240 slaughterhouses and factory farms are part of the same supply chain. 514 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.680 There are no factory farms in Denver. Since we're from here, 515 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.720 we have a lot of local activists here, we wanted 516 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.640 to run a campaign in Denver. So we're tackling the 517 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.680 industrial slaughterhouse here because it's part of that same system. 518 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.359 And what about the people that get tossed out of 519 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:22.119 work who have already come out and said, look, they 520 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.759 take really good care of us. We've been here for 521 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.319 over a decade, and our jobs are going to go 522 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:27.319 the jobs that we like. 523 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.720 We included a provision in the legislation for the City 524 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.559 of Denver to prioritize affected workers in their employment assistance program. 525 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.400 But I do not think that we should trust the 526 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.480 people who currently work there because they're mostly management. We 527 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.480 should be asking the people who work on the kill floor. 528 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.480 And we've interviewed former workers, and one former worker told 529 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.440 us that the number one thing he wants people in 530 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.920 Denver to know about is the animal cruelty. There was 531 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.359 also a lawsuit in twenty twenty one where Muslim employees 532 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.200 sued Superior Farms for racial and religious discrimination. They were 533 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.359 called racial slurs over the intercom and that is unacceptable behavior. 534 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.000 We should win eating from that lawsuit. What happened, it 535 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.400 was settled. It was settled. So but do you think 536 00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:09.000 perhaps if that was settled, that situation has been fixed 537 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.400 because the same slaughterhouse was just cited by the EPA 538 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.480 for potential potential releases of ammonium gas and in response, 539 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.880 they're paying a fine and they're going above and beyond 540 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.759 what the EPA is doing and adding two hundred and 541 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.079 fifty thousand dollars worth of redundancies to ensure that what 542 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.200 didn't happen but the EPA said could would not happen. 543 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.319 The EPA investigation actually showed that they were mishandling anhydrous ammonia, 544 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.359 which is a very dangerous chemical. Superior Farms has claimed 545 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:38.039 for the last year that they were doing everything correctly. 546 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.079 This new report shows that they were. 547 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:40.599 Lying about that. 548 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.359 They're lying about that, why should we trust them about 549 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:44.400 the other things? 550 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.799 They say, Well, everybody who's being fined by the EPA 551 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:48.680 is going to say they didn't do it. I mean, 552 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.160 that's a pretty standard response. Nobody immediately capitulates. 553 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.440 They said that they were mishandling the ammonia and now 554 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.000 they're fixing it. So why were they claiming that they 555 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.319 were doing everything correctly for the last year when this 556 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.200 shows that's not the case. We also have the Clean 557 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.880 Water Act violations which have been going on for over 558 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.319 four years. But I want to go back to the 559 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.480 jobs question. I think that we all have a line 560 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.839 with animal cruelty. Let's say it we're nineteen seventy four 561 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.799 and dog fighting was talking about being banned. Would you 562 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.680 support keeping dog fighting? 563 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.000 You keep throwing up in comparisons designed to evoke an 564 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.799 emotional response instead of talking about the reality, which is 565 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.000 this is a legal product which people want to consume. 566 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.359 Your organization is trying to make it prohibitively expensive and 567 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.119 then shut down the farming that makes meat affordable in 568 00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:35.680 the first place. 569 00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:40.279 So you're theaters uncomfortable with the way animals are treated 570 00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.839 on factory farms and its det waterhouses. They feel like 571 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.599 it's a really hard choice to not eat meat because 572 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.039 of the way our society is structured. That's why we're 573 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.599 tackling this at a systemic issue. Forty nine percent of 574 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.079 Americans want to ban factory farms. 575 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.480 I follow up question too those people and if your 576 00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.480 meat costs double, would you still be in favor of 577 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.039 banning it? I guarantee you that number would drop considerably. 578 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.640 Do you think that it's acceptable for animals to be 579 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.319 confined by the hundreds of thousands in sheds where twenty 580 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.039 five percent of them die before they even reach the slaughterhouse. 581 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:16.240 I buy my meat from a rancher that is doing things, 582 00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:18.720 cows grazing, things of that nature. I try to be 583 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.319 a responsible consumer, but ultimately I have to trust other 584 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.880 consumers to make those choices. I think that if you 585 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.160 want to be a vegan and make animal rights at 586 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.359 the center of your life, I think that's fantastic, absolutely fantastic. 587 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.480 But when you start to try to put people out 588 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.200 of work, you try to use violations from other different 589 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.880 slaughterhouses in California, not then slaughterhouse, not use specifically in 590 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.400 the news media. There's things going around that you're trying 591 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.039 to use things in California. 592 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.839 There's no evidence of us doing that. The one in 593 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.480 California is the same company, and an investigation revealed lamps 594 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.839 being kicked front around, suffering well before they died. 595 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.119 But that hasn't happened here. 596 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.799 We have evidence based on testimonials that there are many 597 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.400 animal welfare violations at the plant in Denver. We don't 598 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.559 have video evidence, but I don't see why it would 599 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.680 be different. If it's the same company and there's so 600 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.440 much worker testimonial corroborating that investigation. 601 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.000 Well, perhaps go at it from that point of view, 602 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.000 but I'm a firm no on both of these. Weginion 603 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:18.880 to get to three eight. 604 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:19.920 I'm not. 605 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:25.440 Notoriously cruel. They also confine wild animals for their entire lives, 606 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.839 and every fall their bludgeon to death or gas to 607 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.920 preserve the product. Over ninety percent of fur comes from 608 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.839 fur factory farms. It's unnecessary animal cruelty. We have alternative materials, 609 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.680 just like dogfighting is unnecessary entertainment. This is unnecessary animal cruelty, 610 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.680 and we should evolve beyond it. Because you're right that 611 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.960 humans are different from other animals. We have moral agency. 612 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.279 We can make choices based on right and wrong and 613 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.680 based on our understanding of the world. Now that we 614 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.119 know that these animals are suffering massively in these places, 615 00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.559 it's time for us to evolve away from treating them 616 00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:59.200 like objects. 617 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.119 Natalie, you are a fine advocate for your position. 618 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.200 Thank you. You really are. 619 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.079 You are a fine advocate. I still think you're wrong, 620 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.279 but I think you are a fine advocate for your position, 621 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:09.440 and I very much appreciate you coming in today to 622 00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.599 make your case. You might have changed someone's mind. 623 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:13.079 You never know. 624 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:15.559 We'll just see what happened. Just on the vote. 625 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.680 Sing a little song for you before we are, but 626 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:18.440 we're very late. 627 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:19.960 So yeah, you know that song. 628 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.440 Eight six seven five three oh nah yea. Iine vote yes. 629 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.119 I'm three eight I'm three oh nah ye ie. Just 630 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.079 so everyone can remember, vote yes for animals this November 631 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.680 if you want to see a better future for everyone. 632 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:37.200 That is Natalie Fulton with pro I'm sorry, pro animal future, Natalie, 633 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.519 thank you. We'll be right batch. I have to say 634 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.160 I really appreciate someone as passionate about what they're talking 635 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.000 about as Natalie is, and I think she did a 636 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.480 really good job representing the yes on three oh eight 637 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.599 or three oh nine vote. The problem is is that 638 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.920 you guys, I'm from a rural area. I grew up 639 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.599 with the people who grew and raised cattle for food, 640 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.160 and my own experience is far different. It's like the 641 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.440 cattle ranchers here who get villified for daring to say, hey, 642 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.680 I don't want new wolves to kill my cattle. They're 643 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.119 vilified as somehow these horrible people, and I just I, 644 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.519 you know, I know that there are horrible people who 645 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.960 probably work in slaughterhouses, but not all people who work 646 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:24.359 in slaughterhouses are horrible people. So it's very challenging. In addition, 647 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.960 just for a moment, you guys, we have incisors and molars, 648 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.000 which means that we are not just herbivores, we are omnivores. 649 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.000 We are supposed to eat everything. Our eyes are in 650 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.160 the front of our head, which means we are predators. 651 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.599 We are not prey. So there's just little things. There's 652 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.960 amino acids that you can only get from meat. And 653 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.920 if you don't want to eat meat, if animals are 654 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.880 the most centered part of your entire life, I say 655 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.359 bully for you. Congratulations. I'm happy you have something that 656 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.359 moves you in that way. But I had a steak 657 00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.960 last night, and I'm probably gonna have one tonight. You know, Hey, 658 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.039 I'm just that's and I might have lamb because it 659 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.640 sounds delicious now that we've been talking about. Just kidding, 660 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.359 I actually got fish yesterday, a whole foods I'm having 661 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:14.880 for dinner tonight. Just kidding. A lot of you are 662 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.200 annoyed that they're trying to shut down a legal, private business, 663 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.319 but that's how it works. If you want no one 664 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.880 to be able to eat meat, the fastest way to 665 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.400 do that is to make sure they can't afford meat. 666 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.240 This text and then I got to take a break, Hey, Mandy. 667 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.599 According to the Cato Institute Free Market think Take, most 668 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:35.599 direct subsidies are for large producers of corn, soybean, wheat, cotton, 669 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.680 and rice, not for livestock producers or fruit and vegetable growers. 670 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.960 About one third of the nation's two million farms receive 671 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:46.559 regular subsidies, although the ratio is higher for larger farms. 672 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.920 Factory farming, not perfect, is what allows people to eat 673 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.680 at reasonable costs. Exactly right, Texter, Thanks for sharing. We 674 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:54.519 will be back. 675 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.359 The Mandy Connells Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 676 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.880 Accident injury Lawyers. 677 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.200 No, it's Mandy Connell. 678 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:21.679 Sat Nicey's great Then conn there is a sad thing. 679 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.239 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show. 680 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.480 I was trying to skip forward in time, but I 681 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.679 would then miss my next guest who is joining me, 682 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.840 Kent Theory, is one of the people behind the rank 683 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.559 choice voting initiative here on the ballot. He's been Kent, 684 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.760 You've been very busy over the last few years sort 685 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.159 of reshaping how politics has been going. You were behind 686 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.960 the ballot initiative to open the primaries. You've been behind 687 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.960 other ballot initiatives that have that have really had a 688 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.159 big impact on Colorado. We won't talk about the Allegory 689 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.039 amendment right now, although I did already tell him I'm 690 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.679 kind of mad at him about that one, because rank 691 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.760 choice voting is something that I I have been very 692 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.960 open on the show about vacillating. 693 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:03.079 Back and forth. 694 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.320 I sort of you know, and I kind of wanted 695 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.800 to give you the opportunity to give a solid primmer 696 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.960 on what this ballot initiative actually does, how our system 697 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.760 would work if it passes, and then why we can 698 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.280 get into the why we need to do this or 699 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.239 we don't whatever after that, but let's start with what 700 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:22.400 it actually does. 701 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:25.519 Yeah. 702 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:29.119 Well, thank you Mandy for shedding some light on this 703 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.599 subject because it's so important. What it does is it 704 00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:38.840 establishes a very tidy, integrated, three step process step one 705 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:44.000 and all candidate primary, everybody on one ballot and with 706 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.199 their party affiliation number two. The top four advance from 707 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.119 that all candidate primary. Step three you got to get 708 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.559 you got to earn a majority of support, and we 709 00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.719 do that through ranked voting. So Step one, all candidate 710 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.360 prime Mary all of us voters vote for one person. 711 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.519 Step two. 712 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.639 Four of those advanced, which creates tremendous diversity. 713 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:09.920 You don't just get the fire left and fire right, 714 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.559 but you get center right, and center left and maybe 715 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.960 even center center. So you're giving much more choice to 716 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.440 that third step, which is a general election where we say, hey, 717 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.280 to become an elected official in Colorado, earn a majority 718 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.639 of support, and rather than having a runoff election costing 719 00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.000 millions of dollars a month after the normal election like 720 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.519 they do in many states, we would achieve it through 721 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.480 ranked voting, which is something that already exists in sixty 722 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.639 four political jurisdictions across America. 723 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.360 So let me ask you to clarify what happens, because 724 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.719 I think the primary ballot is easy to understand. You 725 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.440 cast one vote on the primary ballot, and if your 726 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.280 person is among the top four vote getters in that primary, 727 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.639 you were going to see them on your general election ballot. 728 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:55.320 So let's say we've got candidates ABC and D, just 729 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.119 to keep it simple, and candidate A. No candidate gets 730 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.800 over fifty in the first go round, Okay, so we'll 731 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.039 just go in. A came in first place, D came 732 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.639 in second place. C came in third place, D came 733 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:11.880 in fourth place. Okay, So what happens when candidate A 734 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.960 is at forty percent and all the other candidates are less? 735 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.239 What happens at that point? 736 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.119 Yeah, So at that point, since no one has demonstrated 737 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.199 to a majority of people that they're preferred, then you 738 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.760 go to the person who is in fourth place, in 739 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.800 last place, and that person Das and Dog gets taken out. 740 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.920 At that point, they've lost. Just like losing in a 741 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.039 primary in the currencyste you lose, you don't get to advance. 742 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.400 And so number four, whoever that is, goes away, and 743 00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:47.199 any of any of Das and dogs voters who indicated 744 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.440 a number two choice their vote gets reallocated to that 745 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.480 number two choice, and then you see if anybody gets 746 00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:55.760 over fifty percent from that. 747 00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.440 If you do, you stop right there. 748 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.360 If not, you then take their placed person and reallocate 749 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.559 their number two votes and then you automatically are going 750 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.840 to get a winner because at that point someone's going 751 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:09.480 to have over fifty percent. 752 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.559 Okay, So this is one of those things that as 753 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.679 a person, and I've also been open with my audience 754 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.440 about the fact that in two thousand I voted for 755 00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.559 Ralph Nader because I was voting for the viability of 756 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:21.559 a third party candidate. 757 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:21.840 Right. 758 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.519 So I'm not opposed to anything that shakes up the 759 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.159 two party system. But the biggest concern that I have 760 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.840 seen on the against side is that this destroys the 761 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.960 two party system. How do you respond to that? 762 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.079 Yeah, well, I'm more conservative than you on this one, 763 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.280 because I actually am very nervous about moving away from 764 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.280 the two party system, and I think what we're doing 765 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.400 is going to save it. 766 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:48.239 The fact is the two. 767 00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.159 Party system has been losing customers at an amazing clip. 768 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.119 Half of Colorado voters are now independent, more than Democrats 769 00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.679 and Republicans combined, and the numbers going up higher and higher. 770 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.800 Sixty four percent of young adults under age thirty five 771 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:08.800 are independence, and eighty five percent of Generation Z says 772 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.119 that neither party has anything to offer them, and so 773 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.400 I actually believe that as opposed to what's happening with 774 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.360 the two parties now, where they're becoming more and more 775 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.800 extreme to to the left and the right, they're building 776 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.760 higher and higher fences over smaller and smaller parties. We're 777 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.599 going to end up with new parties if they don't 778 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.119 become more attractive to a majority of the voters. 779 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.039 So this is where this is what I The next 780 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:38.760 question I'm going to ask you is what I love 781 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.840 about the potential of ranked choice voting. But even as 782 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.639 I talk about the potential, I also think to myself, 783 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.320 you know, socialism sounds great on paper, but the reality 784 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.199 of socialism is much different than the paper version of socialism, 785 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.920 and I have concerns about ranked choice voting. I want 786 00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.360 to talk specifically about what happened in Alaska, because this 787 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.039 is immediately the thing that gets brought up. In Alaska. 788 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:04.320 They had two Republicans running against one Democrat. The two 789 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:05.559 Republicans went at. 790 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:05.880 It in the. 791 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:13.519 Primary, and the losing primary candidate their voters did not 792 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.000 vote for the Republican in the general, and a Democrat 793 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.639 ends up winning a House seat for Alaska, which is 794 00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:23.400 really crazy, just really crazy. How do you explain to 795 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.760 people that this is not going to gain the system 796 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.400 in that way to where if you have three Republicans 797 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.920 running and one Democrat running, the Republicans are not just 798 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:32.679 going to eat each other. 799 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.360 Yeah, now, this one has been so misrepresentative and misunderstood, 800 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.880 So I'm glad you're bringing it up first, Mary Peltola. 801 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.280 That Democrat that got in actually. 802 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:48.519 Got more first place votes than the other two candidates 803 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.559 right away from the first round. But put that aside 804 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:58.119 for a moment. Alaska is misunderstood. Alaska only has twenty 805 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.079 eight percent of their voters registered Republican. Now that's twice 806 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.239 as many as our registered Democrats there's fourteen. But fifty 807 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.800 five percent of Alaska voters are fiercely independent. 808 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.679 And the reason it's viewed as this. 809 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.039 Rock solid Republican state is because they had closed primaries, 810 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.400 and so the two parties, even though they had less 811 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.920 than fifty percent of the voters. 812 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.960 Got to set all the rules of the game, and 813 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:25.519 that led to Republican domination. 814 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:29.320 So what happened in that general election is the Democratic 815 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.760 candidate appealed, not the two Republicans were still focused on 816 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.400 the twenty eight percent plus some of the independents who 817 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.079 always vote Republicans, So they were kind of focused on 818 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.159 the thirty five percent that were safe Republicans, and they 819 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:47.079 let her focus on the other sixty five percent of 820 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:47.880 the population. 821 00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:50.880 And so they learned a lesson. 822 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.119 Because one of the great things about ranked voting is 823 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.119 that you've got it represent the entire electorate, and it 824 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.320 makes sense for you to to be thoughtful with them 825 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.119 and sensitive to them because they can determine why or 826 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:05.079 not you get re elected. 827 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.639 So essentially, and this is kind of how I have 828 00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:12.000 have viewed it from the outside looking in. The two 829 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.920 Republican candidates didn't get they didn't pay attention to the 830 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.719 new rules of the game, because ultimately, the real positive 831 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.639 for me and ranked choice voting is the potential to 832 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:26.679 change the way campaigns are run. Because to your point, 833 00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.320 you can no longer just focus on the tiny, little 834 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:33.639 and getting smaller Republican or Democratic Party here in Colorado, 835 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.840 you have no choice but to campaign to everyone. So 836 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.159 I love that aspect of it. But how long do 837 00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:45.679 you think it takes kent for politicians, political systems, political 838 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.440 consultants to figure out the new rules of the game. 839 00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.119 What kind of growing pains are we looking at here. 840 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.000 Yeah, well, certainly there won't be zero. That's not the 841 00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.840 way democracies work. I mean, when women's suffrage was put in, 842 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.239 when when minority voters were allowed, I. 843 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:04.679 Mean, all these things there are. 844 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.719 It's clearly the right direction to go, but there's always 845 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.079 some speed bumps. But the factors elected officials are really 846 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.280 quick on this stuff, as much as those two Republicans 847 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.400 for some reason didn't seem to really get it. So 848 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.519 let's talk about the Alaska state legislature, which had been 849 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.800 totally gridlocked for over a decade. 850 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.719 They actually formed a bipartisan. 851 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.519 Majority governing caucus d's and rs to together, and they 852 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.840 didn't even invite the French left in the French right, 853 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.000 they said, you guys have been holding us back for 854 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.400 a decade with not wanting to compromise on anything. So 855 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.719 they offentually essentially formed almost a new party, and that 856 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.480 group is working together because now to get re elected, 857 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.440 the path is to get stuff done, as opposed to 858 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.880 performative art, where you want to demonstrate how you never compromise. 859 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.559 And so in Alaska, a majority of the state legislature 860 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.639 changed its demeanor and its practices overnight and they got 861 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.719 to buy d get done in record time that hadn't 862 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:03.920 been done for a decade, And there are other things 863 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:08.800 like that, and so elected officials are pretty damned sensitive 864 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:10.719 to the incentive system. 865 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.239 So I got a bunch of questions on our tech 866 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.760 line because let's kind of do these as quickly as possible, 867 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.119 but thoroughly as possible, because these are all good questions. 868 00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.599 One of them is from Benita. Ask him how you 869 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.800 would audit ranked choice voting? How would that process work? 870 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.880 Yeah, this is where I'd have to have our elections 871 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.159 experts give a technically satisfactory answer. What I cantenue to 872 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.360 tell you is that there's existing methodology and technology to 873 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.679 do it. It's been on multiple times. It exists out there. 874 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.320 And the great thing that's happened now that there's sixty 875 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.599 four places doing ranked voting across the country is there's 876 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:53.599 an entire ecosystem of promolo support groups for voter education, material, 877 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.360 for marketing material, for technology enhancements. And the good news 878 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:02.159 for Colorado is ninety eight percent of our companies are 879 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.199 already have the necessary technology in house and will help 880 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.119 the other two percent. 881 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.119 So we already have the ability to do this, like 882 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:11.880 we have the technology and we can make this. 883 00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.039 Happen absolutely Now. 884 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.679 It takes hard work, and we want to develop, with 885 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.840 the clerks a very significant and thoughtful implementation plan. We're 886 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.239 already in conversations with the governor and going through what 887 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.760 should be the line item and his proposed budget that 888 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.000 would include millions of dollars for supporting the clerks. So 889 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.280 I'm not saying it's easy. But we did Vork by mail. 890 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.280 A lot of people said, oh my god, that's going 891 00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.679 to lead to a cluster. We pulled it off well. 892 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.280 In twenty sixteen we did the semi open primaries, Oh 893 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.960 my gosh, everybody said this is too risky, you can't 894 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:45.519 do audits. 895 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.760 So all they were wrong again. So this one is 896 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.719 no more or less difficult. You've got to be on 897 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.119 your game, you've got to have resources, but it's totally doable. 898 00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.840 A lot of people on the text line are sending 899 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.159 some variation of are you trying to meant democrat power 900 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.159 in Colorado forever? Because their concern is and I'm going 901 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.719 to use the first Congressional district as an example because 902 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:12.280 it is reliably Democrat and my friend Valdemar Archiletta outstanding 903 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.079 candidate on the Republican side. He is fighting a don 904 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.559 Quixote like quest in that district just because of the 905 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.039 makeup of the district. So it stands to reason that 906 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.440 if you have an open primary, there could be four 907 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.800 Democrats that come out of that primary race. How do 908 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:26.280 you address that concern? 909 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.920 Yeah, here's what's it would be amusing if it wasn't 910 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.400 such a serious topic. I just had an hour long 911 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:38.920 debate with the head of the Democratic Party in here 912 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.000 in Colorado and the lead attorney, and they are petrified 913 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.599 that passing this will take away their super majority status 914 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.639 because we're going to put more and more power back 915 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.079 in the voter's hands and put voters in the middle center, left, center, 916 00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:58.679 right and center, put their voice and choice back in 917 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.880 the game. And it's so ironic that we have on 918 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.199 the one hand, Dave Williams and Lauren Bobert against us 919 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.159 on the Republican side, and then the head of the 920 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.039 Democratic Party on the Democratic side. 921 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.679 And so that's kind of. 922 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.000 How we know we're doing it right, and we're focused 923 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.840 on the voters because party leaders on each side now 924 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.159 at the same time, there's a number of hard core 925 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.920 partisans who have endorsed this, including Governor Polis and where 926 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.360 Mike Johnston from Denver on the Democratic side, and on 927 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.000 the Republican side, people like Dick Wadhams, who was the 928 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:38.000 Republican Party chair for the entire state and ran a 929 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.159 bulk of the successful Republican campaigns. 930 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:42.320 He's on the team as well because he. 931 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.440 Thinks this could be to step forward to actually restore 932 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.199 relevance for the Republican Party. 933 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:50.119 Well, I don't know if you answered the question specifically. 934 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.159 I mean, and I've kind of been bouncing this around. 935 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.519 There are districts that there's almost a zero percent chance 936 00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:58.960 the Republican's going to win in the general anyway. So 937 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.639 this would just kind kind of allow you, as a 938 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.400 right leaning person to at least have a say in. 939 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.119 You know, you could vote for your Republican candidate first 940 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.679 and then vote for the least crazy on the other side, 941 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.639 or vice versa. You have that opportunity. That for me 942 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:14.639 is the thing that you know, I'm trying to make 943 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:15.079 a point of. 944 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.840 Yeah, Okay, I hear what you're saying. I apologize for 945 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.599 going down a parallel path, but what you say is 946 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.360 exactly true. 947 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.159 A district that's dominantly Democratic should elect a Democratic person 948 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.960 and the one that's dominantly Republicans should But what happens 949 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.000 in the real world is exactly what you just said. 950 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.480 Let's say there's a district is sixty five to thirty 951 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.960 five Democrat over Republican, and so that thirty five percent 952 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.199 their first vote will be for Mandy Conham because that's 953 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.000 their favorite Republican. Their number two vote, they're going to say, hmm, 954 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.199 I'd much rather have sort of an amy Klobe, you're 955 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.440 sort of person, not a Bernie Sanders, and so my 956 00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:58.960 number two vote is going to be for the moderate Democrat. 957 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.800 Well that's very powerful because it means that you're not 958 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.840 permanently disenfranchising the minority party in that district. 959 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.000 They actually have a voice. 960 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:11.119 And if you're the moderate Democratic state senator, for example, 961 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.119 you don't have to just run to Bernie Sanders to 962 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:18.079 try to get votes. Suddenly, you market yourself and you 963 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:22.199 listen to all the people in the minority because they're 964 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.519 very relevant for you. And I talked to one of 965 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.239 our state senators just a couple of days ago who 966 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.400 had an actual competitive race and went door to door 967 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.320 and it literally changed her perspective on some policies by 968 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.119 her going and knocking on the Republican doors. 969 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.880 And the independent doors. Not just a democratic she said. 970 00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:43.760 She said, if I win, I'm going to be a 971 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.320 way better leader because now I spent time listening to 972 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.639 them kind of for selfish reasons, but. 973 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:50.719 I got a lot out of it. 974 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.639 I have a follow up question on how the ranked 975 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.159 choice votes are counted, and this one seems like an 976 00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:59.880 interesting question, Mandy, what happens of all the second choice 977 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.599 on candidate C went to candidate D when they were eliminated, 978 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.880 then there was so then you, I mean, how does 979 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.280 that work if you don't I mean, you would have 980 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.079 to have a clear majority though, if you cleared out 981 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.239 two candidates, right, No, I guess it could be fifty 982 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:14.599 to fifty. 983 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.679 Well, but fifty fifty exactly only happens about one out 984 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.760 of every twenty thousand elections. 985 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.880 Yeah, once you get to where you're eliminating, you've eliminate 986 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:28.400 number four. 987 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.320 You want to eliminate number three? Yeah, you're guaranteed to 988 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.320 get a majority with someone. 989 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.239 Okay, Also, let me get some I've got a bunch 990 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.599 of questions coming in here, Mandy. I'm sorry to harp 991 00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:43.440 on this, But what he's describing is bolder and the 992 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.199 more popular moderate Democrat lost because of ranked choice voting. 993 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.599 And I'm talking about Bob Yates. He should have won 994 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.480 easily and he lost because of ranked choice voting, and 995 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.599 the progressives, the radical progressives, beat him with ranked choice 996 00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.599 voting scam. So I know that somebody's brought the Bob 997 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.000 Yates situation to your attention, and it almost it does 998 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.679 kind of seem like the whole we're going to get 999 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.320 the moderated it failed. What do you attribute that to? 1000 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.599 Yeah, I mean there's hundreds of elections in our state 1001 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.000 every year, and in any system, you're going to have 1002 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:17.039 some anomalies. 1003 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.159 I mean, it's just it's the nature of the beast. 1004 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.079 And I don't know enough about that campaign to know 1005 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:28.039 exactly how the different competitors didn't in fact campaign. But 1006 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.800 what I do know is that this system requires that 1007 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.039 you get a majority support, and there's almost no way 1008 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.199 to gain anything given you have to get to that majority. 1009 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:40.760 It either exists or it doesn't. 1010 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.039 It's not like Top two in California, which is a 1011 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.320 flawed system, because you can gain it with Top four, 1012 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.400 and you need that majority I've never yet had anyone 1013 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.079 be able to describe to me a real world scenario 1014 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:55.440 where someone gained it and succeeded. 1015 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:56.880 And I've I mean, I've been. 1016 00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.719 On this trail for six months asking the question because 1017 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:03.239 I'm sure it's happened somewhere, but not a single opponent 1018 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.480 has ever been able to cite. 1019 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.360 A single example of gaming. 1020 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.039 All right, last comment, and I'll let you respond, and 1021 00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:14.159 then we've got to wrap it up. No rank choice voting. 1022 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.280 I do not want to see two Democrats in the 1023 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.440 general for governor or senator. I want both Republican and 1024 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.039 Democrat policies to have their voices. How do you respond 1025 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:23.280 to that? 1026 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.079 That's why we feel so strong about top four that 1027 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.800 in our state, at least in the next fifty years, 1028 00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.480 there's never going to be a case where one party 1029 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.079 would get all the top four spots. 1030 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.400 And if it does happen, it doesn't it means the other. 1031 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.760 Party has virtually no support, correct, in which case they 1032 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:44.840 don't deserve to be in the ballot. So just like 1033 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.760 why I can't comment on the Bowler situation, you know, 1034 00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.639 in a highly liberal spot or a highly conservative spot, 1035 00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.719 that's what they are. That outcome is appropriate. We're not 1036 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.239 trying to make moderates everywhere. And I'll close this for this, Mandy. 1037 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:00.360 It's not that we're looking for a world where every 1038 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:04.039 candidate lives in the middle. What we're looking for is 1039 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.199 a world where every candidate is willing to meet in 1040 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.960 the middle when common sense dictates on things like immigration, 1041 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.159 where the people would have reached a consensus compromise twenty 1042 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:14.639 years ago. 1043 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.960 Yeah, Kent theory. I appreciate what you're trying to do here. 1044 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.679 I'm going to be putting my voter Voter Guide out 1045 00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:25.079 on Monday, but considering the disastrous state of the current 1046 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.119 Republican Party, I'm relatively certain at this point it's a 1047 00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:28.679 yes for me. 1048 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:29.239 Now. 1049 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:31.480 That won't help you because my endorsement is the kiss 1050 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.079 of death, but I'm just letting you know for what 1051 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.800 it's worth, I'm convinced I'm ready to shake things up 1052 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.719 and I'm ready to do something different because what we're 1053 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:42.920 doing now clearly is not working. 1054 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:43.239 Ken. 1055 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:44.760 I really appreciate your time today. 1056 00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:48.480 Yeah, thank you, Mandy so much. 1057 00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.239 And I agree that this is a time where the 1058 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.639 status quo is broken and America needs to step up. 1059 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:54.039 And fix it. 1060 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.320 All Right, that's Kent theory. Thank you Kent. We will 1061 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.880 be back right after this. Let me just read this 1062 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.480 one text message from our Common Spirit health text line. Hey, Mandy, 1063 00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.440 that guy buzzwords told me all I need to know 1064 00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.280 about him. The fringe right. Who's that? I'm not a 1065 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:14.920 Trump fan, but my word, who's fringe right? 1066 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:15.400 Who is that? 1067 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.719 Exactly? I know the fringe left exists, and I think 1068 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.480 they want to use ranked choice voting to entrench their scheme, 1069 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.880 which is a one party state, one party state where 1070 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.800 they lie and say that independence just love them. So okay, 1071 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.000 so you're willing to admit there's the fringe left, but 1072 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.800 the notion of a fringe right is you can't figure 1073 00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:35.280 out who that is. Well, let me tell you that 1074 00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:39.719 is here in Colorado. That's Tina Peters, that is Ron Hanks. 1075 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.639 That is all the people running around without evidence telling 1076 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.000 people that they are they have all this evidence that 1077 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.280 the election was stolen about not being willing to present 1078 00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:53.960 the evidence. That's the fringe right. Nick twintis the white 1079 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.760 supremacist wing of the right wing. Those are the fringe right. 1080 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.519 They're just as fringing, just as crazy as the fringe 1081 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:06.239 left and right choice voting is designed to allow the 1082 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.480 people in the middle to say, yeah, that's not okay 1083 00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:12.480 with us. We don't want to reward the candidates who 1084 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.239 ran as far to the left or as far to 1085 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:16.519 the right as they could in the primary, only to 1086 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.000 try and moderate themselves in the general election. Which candidate 1087 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:24.119 is real, It's honestly exactly like the candidacy of Kamala 1088 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.239 Harris twenty nineteen. She was as far left to the 1089 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.920 left of Bernie Sanders, and now when asked about it, 1090 00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:36.159 she just says, my values haven't changed. I grew up 1091 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.199 in the middle class. Everyone took care of their lawns. 1092 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.480 My values said not to Well, okay, then, so your 1093 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:46.280 policy positions haven't changed. But see, we don't get to 1094 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:51.920 ask her questions because well, she's amazing and full of 1095 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:58.719 joy so we're just full of joyfulness, not questions. Hey, Mandy, 1096 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.320 Tina Peters, and Ron Hanks just lost and it didn't 1097 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.559 tank rank choice voting to push them out. And by 1098 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.119 the way, I do agree with you on that. I 1099 00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.599 tend to forget about them because they're so insignificant. They're 1100 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.440 not insignificant. That wing is running the Republican Party in Colorado, right, now, 1101 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.920 right this very minute. Dave Williams, who walked out of 1102 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.559 the convention in twenty sixteen because he was so anti Trump, 1103 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.960 then decided to loot the treasury to support his own 1104 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.840 congressional race, where he got his ass kicked. Now what 1105 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:34.480 if he'd made it through in that congressional race, he 1106 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.760 would have most certainly been a member of Congress. And 1107 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.960 if it wasn't for people on the right working to 1108 00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.199 defeat him, he would have been able to walk into 1109 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.800 office because he appealed to the fringiest part of the fringe. 1110 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.920 And that's how you get elected in a primary where 1111 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.679 only seventeen eighteen percent of people even vote. That's the 1112 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.960 other thing, you, guys, So few people vote in the prime. 1113 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.440 But if you had a sense that the primary is 1114 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:04.519 actually meant something, and if you're truly a person in 1115 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:06.800 the center, and there's a person on the right that's 1116 00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.360 running that you really really like, but there's a person 1117 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.840 in the Democratic Party that you also think is pretty 1118 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.199 reasonable and you could get behind. If we do this 1119 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.000 rank choice voting system, both of them will be on 1120 00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:20.599 your ballot, so you can choose in the primary and 1121 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.320 hope that the other one makes it and then in 1122 00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:27.599 the general election you can possibly choose two completely different 1123 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.320 parties as you're one and two. Now do I see 1124 00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:30.159 that happening right away? 1125 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:30.280 No? 1126 00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:34.039 I do not, because we are incredibly polarized in our 1127 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.239 world right now, and I think for many people on 1128 00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.159 the right it is like EW Democrats, for many people 1129 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.559 on the left ew Republicans. But I think as politicians 1130 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.039 begin to adapt to the new reality and start walking 1131 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.519 around and listening to people and finding out their hopes 1132 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.079 and fears and what kind of solutions they're looking to problems, 1133 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.280 I think that would change. You know, when we were 1134 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.760 in Switzerland last year, we had a long conversation with 1135 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:01.000 the guy who was driving around us, driving us around 1136 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:02.960 in a tuck tuck while we eat fondo. We had 1137 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:07.159 long conversation about politics, and he said, in Switzerland they 1138 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.679 have like thirty or forty parties. You never vote based 1139 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.199 on party identification. You just don't because sometimes parties you 1140 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:14.800 will agree with them on this issue, but you won't 1141 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.719 agree with them on that issue. So people in Switzerland 1142 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.519 don't see themselves as part of a political party. They 1143 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:24.360 see themselves as a Swiss citizen. So you may vote 1144 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.079 for one party in this election because they're doing the 1145 00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:28.920 right thing for the thing you're the most passionate about. 1146 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.159 You may vote for another party in the next election. 1147 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:35.039 Your entire ballot could be for completely different parties in 1148 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.920 every single race. Now, don't get me wrong, I think 1149 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:41.079 there's a level of chaos in that that may be 1150 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:45.679 a little unmanageable for most people. But wouldn't you rather 1151 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:50.280 have options that you felt good about, multiple choices where 1152 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:52.679 you're like, you know what. It's kind of like what 1153 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:54.960 I tell people in Denver right in the general election, 1154 00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:57.920 if you go vote for the Republican for mayor of Denver, 1155 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.719 I just don't see a republic And winning in Denver 1156 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.840 for a very long time. But then, wouldn't it be 1157 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.079 nice if in a ranked choice voting for the mayor 1158 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.280 of Denver, you had the opportunity to vote for the 1159 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:12.920 least crazy Democrat with number two. Wouldn't that be nice? 1160 00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:17.360 In all of these places where Republicans are hopelessly outnumbered, 1161 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.159 you would actually have a say and who was likely 1162 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.320 to get elected without feeling like you wasted your vote 1163 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.400 voting for someone that's not likely to get elected. I 1164 00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:33.800 just I don't think the system is that complicated. I 1165 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.440 just Mandy, did your values change? You said four years 1166 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:39.079 ago you wouldn't support or vote for Trump. My values 1167 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:43.880 haven't changed, but my pragmatism has kicked in. And you 1168 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:49.079 know I mean, trust me, Texter. I'm just as disgusted 1169 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.639 with me as you are. But the reality is this, 1170 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.239 we have two choices, and both of them make me 1171 00:59:56.400 --> 01:00:00.920 very unhappy. This is as ointment or supp positories election 1172 01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:04.519 as there ever has been in my lifetime. I am 1173 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:09.960 not enthusiastic at all about casting my ballot this election cycle, 1174 01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:12.760 not even a little bit. But that just gives you 1175 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:17.360 an idea of how bad I think Kamala Harris would 1176 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:21.000 be as president, just how bad. Like the bar was 1177 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:25.119 so low, so low. Then all they had to do 1178 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.280 was barely pick their feet over. But they didn't even 1179 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:32.400 do that. No, they just rolled Kamal in there. Not 1180 01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.480 that she's any worse or any better than Joe Biden. 1181 01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.239 I just think what the Democratic policies are bad for 1182 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:42.559 this country. So here I am forced to vote again 1183 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.519 someone I don't want to vote for, but I'm going 1184 01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:49.920 to Mandy. Ranked choice voting only works if people vote 1185 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.239 for multiple candidates. If they only vote for one candidate 1186 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:54.719 and then that candidate doesn't rank high enough, then it's 1187 01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.239 like they didn't vote at all. No, it means they 1188 01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:00.360 vote for a losing candidate, and that's entire it's entirely choice. 1189 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.599 Let's just say there's one Republican on the final ballot, 1190 01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:07.199 three Democrats on the final ballot, and all three Democrats 1191 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.679 are horrible, and you can't bring yourself to vote for him. Great, 1192 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.920 cast your ballot for the Republican. Call it a day. 1193 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.760 Your ballot counts in the first round, just like everybody 1194 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.280 else's ballot in the first round. Now that was me 1195 01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:21.719 and I had one Republican and three Democrats, I would 1196 01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:25.639 then look for the least crazy Democrat and I would 1197 01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.079 vote for them, and I would urge all of my 1198 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.519 friends to vote for them number two, because at least 1199 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:33.280 you have the chance to weigh in right now. If 1200 01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:37.079 you're in that district where it's overwhelmingly Democrat, you get 1201 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.239 no say because you cast your ballot for a sure 1202 01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:43.480 to lose candidate just because of demographics, and then you're 1203 01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.519 out and the crazy people win. So there you go. 1204 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:50.760 Get Mike Rosen's opinion on this. Mike is a much 1205 01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:55.960 harder partisan than I am. He is a much stronger 1206 01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:59.159 Republican because he came of age during the glory days 1207 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.559 of the Republican part under Ronald Reagan. And if I 1208 01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:05.599 had grown up in that era, I would probably feel 1209 01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.320 the same way. But I grew up in the Republicans 1210 01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.320 crapping all over any sense of fiscal responsibility and saddling 1211 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.800 our children, our grandchildren, our great grinch grandchildren with a 1212 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:17.760 massive load of debt. They're never going to be able 1213 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.960 to pay off Republican era. So I'm not nearly as 1214 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:25.960 deep red as Mike rosen is. Rounds of voting sounds 1215 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:30.960 kinds of Soviet You guys, really really, I mean, if 1216 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:32.280 you don't want to vote for it, that's fine, but 1217 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:34.079 when you say something like that, it's kind of silly. 1218 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.440 By the way, Oh, you know what, We're going to 1219 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:37.960 talk about this one more segment because I got a 1220 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.960 little more information I want to share with you about 1221 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:44.199 how we vote. It hasn't always been the same. We'll 1222 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.960 talk about that next. A lot of you on the 1223 01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:52.440 text line asking a question, and I guess the Republican 1224 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.239 Party is telling people that if you don't vote for 1225 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.599 all four choices, then your vote doesn't count. And that's 1226 01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.960 a why I would expect nothing less from the leadership 1227 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:06.440 of the Colorado Republican Party. That is a lie. You 1228 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:08.840 can cast one vote. You can just say, look, here's 1229 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:11.280 my number one choice. Don't want to vote for anybody else. 1230 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.320 Your first vote counts. Maybe you only want to vote 1231 01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:19.800 for two people your first and second vote count. You're 1232 01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.679 getting the drift here. You don't have to cast a 1233 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.480 vote when you don't want to. Somebody said this, Mandy 1234 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.719 number one, God, number two, Stalin number three, Hitler number four, Satan, 1235 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:31.679 who's your number two? In that case, I would only 1236 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:36.440 have a number one God. So yeah, you do not 1237 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.880 have to vote for all four. That is a lie, 1238 01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.679 an unsurprising lie. The only people arguing for ranked choice 1239 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.360 voting are partisans who want to protect the two party system, which, 1240 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.920 by the way, we are very very very close to 1241 01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:54.280 being a majority unaffiliated state, and I know the most 1242 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:58.480 unaffiliated vote with Democrats, but we are almost there. That's 1243 01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.119 how effective the two parties have at growing their parties. 1244 01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.280 All right, what are you registered as? You don't have 1245 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:07.639 to tell me. I guess that's a private thing, although 1246 01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:09.400 it's public records, so yeah, you do have to tell me. 1247 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.480 No, I'll tell you I am unaffiliated there. You absolutely 1248 01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.400 love this idea of bring choice voting. Yeah, it made 1249 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:16.199 a lot of sense to me. 1250 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:19.360 I see. I just here's the thing. I love it 1251 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.679 when people are basically like, we can't change it. Yeah, 1252 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.679 we totally can. And since the beginning of the United 1253 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.039 States of America, we have changed the way we cast 1254 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.679 our ballots on multiple occasions. First of all, a gentleman 1255 01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:34.920 cracked back at me on x or Facebook, I don't 1256 01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:38.920 remember which one. He said, this is so unconstitutional. There's 1257 01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:44.880 nothing in the Constitution about how states must vote, just 1258 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.800 that states oversee elections, right, So it's not unconstitutional at all. 1259 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:53.920 We change the way we cast our ballots multiple times 1260 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.960 over the years, and uh so there's nothing to say 1261 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.119 we can't change it again because clearly what we I'm 1262 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.800 doing now sucks. I mean, it just sucks. Right, So 1263 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.920 I'm I'm I'm in the s column as of right now. 1264 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:11.079 Not again that that matters, but I just want to 1265 01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:13.159 let you know. But here's the thing, you guys, if 1266 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:18.480 you have any questions, email me Mandy Mandy Connell two 1267 01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:21.119 NS two l's at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm trying to 1268 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.239 just use my artmedia dot com address Mandy Connell, m 1269 01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:26.960 A and d y co n N E L l 1270 01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:32.039 at iHeartMedia dot com and send me your questions and 1271 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:33.960 I will make sure in my voter guide that they 1272 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:39.079 are all accurately answered, because there's a lot of misinformation. 1273 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.320 And here's the thing. When the other side has to 1274 01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:44.599 lie about what it actually does in order to get 1275 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.800 you to vote against it, that should tell you maybe 1276 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.239 they shouldn't be trusted. I'm just saying, Mandy, I'm a 1277 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.519 new Independent who leaned left for the majority of my adulthood. 1278 01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.079 Now I'm right leaning. Sick of all the crap, Mandy. 1279 01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.360 The fact that both Democrats and Republicans are against this 1280 01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.760 should tell you. There you go, Mandy and Boulder. The 1281 01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.199 votes were counted by vote column, and you were not 1282 01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.519 counted if you voted the same person across. Well, that's 1283 01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:11.280 because you can't vote for the same person across. You 1284 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.159 have to rank the people in order one, two, three, four. 1285 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:17.559 If you make a list, if you're going to the 1286 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.920 grocery store, you're gonna put one milk, two milk, three milk, 1287 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:21.719 four milk. 1288 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:22.320 No, you're not. 1289 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.039 Stop trying to make it more complicated. Follow the very 1290 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:30.800 easy directions. Put these four people in order, or just 1291 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:32.519 vote for one, or just vote for two, or just 1292 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.800 vote for three or whatever. But you can only vote 1293 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:39.480 for someone once. Not that complicated. The best reason for 1294 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.079 rank choice voting is that Dave Williams is against it. 1295 01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:50.039 Correct Texter, correct one hundred percent. Mandy. Do you know 1296 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.800 if anyone is reading the State Blue information booklet that 1297 01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:54.599 came in the mail voter guide. I think a lot 1298 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.519 of people look at that. I think a lot of 1299 01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.360 people look at that. I mean, I don't know, I 1300 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.119 breathe through it, but I mean I'm I'm highly educated, 1301 01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:04.599 and I can make it my own mind and my 1302 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:07.079 own decisions. Hit someone else to tell me. But I'll 1303 01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:08.880 be telling you guys what to do in my voter guide. 1304 01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:10.440 And Ross is working on a voter guide too. We 1305 01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.159 were going to collaborate, but Ross uses way more worse 1306 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:16.400 than I do. Like I'm just gonna say, don't vote 1307 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:18.599 for this as stupid, but Ross will give you like 1308 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.320 a dissertation on why it's stupid and you shouldn't vote 1309 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:23.760 for it, so you know, something different for everyone. We 1310 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.199 will be right back. We've got the two minute drill 1311 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.079 coming up, and so much other stuff on the blog 1312 01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.719 that we haven't begun to scratch yet, So stick around. 1313 01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.519 The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 1314 01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:38.079 accident and injury lawyers. 1315 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:49.440 Well, no, it's Mandy connella. 1316 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:53.039 Tenny icy. 1317 01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.000 Many donald sad thing. 1318 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.840 The two minute and drill at two. 1319 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.840 Hey we go too, minute, warrios, weapons fire, stories of 1320 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:07.840 today that we don't have more time for. 1321 01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:09.239 He love triple. 1322 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:09.760 Let's go. 1323 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:15.199 This will take longer than two minutes. Here's many coddle. 1324 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:18.479 All right, my friends, We've got some stories and this 1325 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.800 one there's more too, I promise you. But we don't 1326 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:27.319 know why RTD fired now former police chief Joel Fitzgerald. 1327 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.840 As a matter of fact, RTD, as far as I know, 1328 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:32.359 hasn't even confirmed that they fired him. How do we 1329 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.720 know because according to the Colorado Peace Officers Standards and 1330 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:40.039 Training website, which shows the status of employment for peace officers, 1331 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:45.399 they said Fitzgerald was terminated for cause. Now, call me crazy, 1332 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.000 but I think that if you are a public servant, 1333 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.600 especially in a law enforcement position, who has fired for cause, 1334 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.560 the rest of us should get to know what you did. Now, 1335 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.960 if it's criminal, obviously file charges. But if it's just unethical. 1336 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.439 I still want to know, because this guy is gonna 1337 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:02.640 go try and get a job somewhere else. I'm not 1338 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.319 sure why RTD is being so tight lipped, but it 1339 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.840 certainly doesn't inspire trust in their next tire. Just throwing 1340 01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:13.319 that out there, it too. John Caldera has written a 1341 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:16.800 scorcher over at page two on Complete Colorado dot com. 1342 01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:19.720 What is it about about the fact that sea dot 1343 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:24.119 is hyper focused on serving four percent of the population. 1344 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.000 He points out that the next time you are stuck 1345 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.920 in traffic, you know who to blame, because the Colorado 1346 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.159 Department of Transportation has stopped worrying about making roads that 1347 01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:35.520 work in an effort to shove us all in a 1348 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:39.119 mass transit that only four percent of the population takes, 1349 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.720 even after we've spent billions of dollars on light rail. 1350 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:46.520 Four percent of the population takes mass transit. But they're 1351 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.439 not gonna stop trying. So maybe it's time to elect 1352 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.199 a different party who would appoint the head of sea 1353 01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:53.960 dot and set the tone. Just to thought my friends. 1354 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:55.399 Too. 1355 01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:59.159 All Right, you guys, good news in the world of inflation. 1356 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:03.479 Inflation is down to two point two percent in the 1357 01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:07.800 month of August versus two point five in July. This 1358 01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.079 is very close to the fed's two percent target, which 1359 01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.319 means that there's a good chance the FED will continue 1360 01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.239 to drop interest rates through the rest of the year. 1361 01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.840 Now in the meantime, we're just gonna have to wait 1362 01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:22.159 until I believe the next rate will come in October, 1363 01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:25.479 maybe November, and then one in December. But finally things 1364 01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.279 are starting to feel somewhat normal again, even if prices 1365 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.880 are still twenty percent higher than they were a few 1366 01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:36.880 years ago. Baby steps, you guys, baby steps. DPS and 1367 01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:40.119 I mean Denver Public Schools has proven itself to be 1368 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.960 a bad actor when it comes to parents speaking out 1369 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.880 against well anything they do. One woman found out about 1370 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.159 it the hard way by coming to speak on behalf 1371 01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:51.760 of a principal who was being fired for a I 1372 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:55.119 think completely made up reason led by Tay Anderson, which 1373 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:57.760 she showed up. She ended up being accused by an 1374 01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:00.920 activist of both calling him the N word, which she 1375 01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:04.720 did not, and physically attacking him, which she did not. 1376 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.560 When charged with a crime, she tried to get DPS 1377 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:10.760 to release the video of the meeting to prove that 1378 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:14.279 she hadn't done anything wrong and they fought it. DPS 1379 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.079 is made up of bullies and thugs, and if you're 1380 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:19.399 a decent parent, you are supposed to be afraid of 1381 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:21.880 going to a school board meeting because you don't want 1382 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:25.000 to get treated like the woman that Jimmy Seenberger focused 1383 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:26.840 on in his column that I have linked on the 1384 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.079 blog today. It is a fascinating story and you all 1385 01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:35.600 should read it. And finally, well, next to finally, not finally, 1386 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.479 next to finally, Dave Maggie Smith has passed away. She 1387 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.239 was a scenestealer as professor of Minerva McGonagall in the 1388 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:47.439 Harry Potter films, along with being Countess Grantham in Downton Abbey, 1389 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.279 among I'm guessing hundreds of roles she had over her 1390 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:55.680 lengthy career. She passed away at eighty nine and was 1391 01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.439 surrounded by her family and friends. She will be missed 1392 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:00.680 and for a lot of little kids, you got this 1393 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:02.680 is going to be one of their first stars of 1394 01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:05.560 their movies that they love that has passed away. Although 1395 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:09.199 did Hagrid di is Hagrid debad? Did Hagrid die? He died? 1396 01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:11.640 He died? He died? It was okay, so flu but 1397 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.600 Shirley they're all just dropping like flies. So watch a 1398 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.479 little Harry Potter this weekend in Dame Maggie Smith's honor, 1399 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.479 and I hope she rests in peace. And uh yeah, 1400 01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:25.680 that's really all I have to say about that. And finally, 1401 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.520 although I feel bad putting this in the two minute 1402 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.000 drill because it is kind of a big deal and 1403 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:30.600 I might talk more about it on the other side 1404 01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:33.520 of the break, the IDF has said they've conducted a 1405 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.399 massive strike on Hesbela's headquarters in the route, and they've 1406 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.960 been pretty open about the fact that they were targeting 1407 01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:45.079 the head of Hesbela, Hassan Nasralla, because honestly, he's the 1408 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.880 last guy in the upper level chain of command that 1409 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.880 is left alive for Hesbela. And Benjaminette Yahoo went and 1410 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.039 spoke to the United Nations and pretty much said, Poul 1411 01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.960 Sand We're gonna keep doing what we're doing until Hesbela 1412 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:03.680 has completely new new neutral, neuter neutralized, whatever word I 1413 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.479 was trying to say. And so far, so good. They 1414 01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:08.680 don't look at me like that. You try and say 1415 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:12.479 neutered and neutralized all in the same sentence, getting judged 1416 01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:16.000 from the other room right now, Like Stern looks and stuff. Yeah, 1417 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.039 well continue this conversation. Well no, it's not time to 1418 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:22.039 break yet. No, this is just the next piece of 1419 01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:26.479 Israel's destruction of Hesbela's capabilities of attacking them. This compound 1420 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:30.439 that they attacked in be Root was a military compound 1421 01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:33.880 built underneath housing because that's what they do. They hired 1422 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.800 under civilians. They don't know if Nezrala was killed, but 1423 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.159 so far he hasn't. Well, no one's come out to 1424 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:40.840 say that they killed him. A lot of people are like, 1425 01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:43.039 oh my god, this is going to escalate things and 1426 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:46.479 make it into World War three. Guess what. Israel doesn't care. 1427 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.399 They said as much at the UN They basically said, 1428 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:52.079 you guys can keep your little opinions to yourself. We're 1429 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:54.600 gonna keep doing this till we neutralize Hesbela, and y'all 1430 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:58.239 can shut up. And then he left. That's the kind 1431 01:13:58.279 --> 01:13:59.960 of speech you just mic drop and just walk off 1432 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:03.000 off right then, So we'll find out if they were successful. 1433 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:05.680 But man, this guy has to be scared out of 1434 01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.800 his mind right now. And you know what, oddly, I'm 1435 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:13.560 in favor of that one hundred percent. One hundred percent now, 1436 01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.119 when we get back that's the end of the two 1437 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:17.680 minute triller. You can I guess I could hit the 1438 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.479 last little thing there. Let's just end it, Grant, Let's 1439 01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:25.000 just let's just stop it. Just finish it, right there, 1440 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:29.319 finish it. The ABS and the Nuggets are back on TV. 1441 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:32.640 Here's my question, Grant, why didn't they do this like 1442 01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:37.479 a year ago? I mean years ago. Fans have missed 1443 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:39.479 all of the championships, right, I mean you've. 1444 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.399 Missed missed the Nuggets championships, missed the ABS championship. 1445 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:43.840 I mean, I hope they're good this year, don't get 1446 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:45.840 me wrong on off runs. So why didn't you just 1447 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.279 do this? Yeah, it's a bad luck. Still what now? 1448 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:51.000 Maybe they were working on the app because now you 1449 01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:53.319 have two options. You can pay for the Altitude Plus app. 1450 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:55.439 It's like twenty bucks a month or something. It's gonna 1451 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:57.399 get you all the games ninety yeah, or you can 1452 01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.119 just watch it on nine News or My twenty. 1453 01:14:59.319 --> 01:14:59.439 Right. 1454 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:01.560 That's what that's the part that frustrates me is that 1455 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.720 they could have done these twenty games. Yeah, for the 1456 01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:06.439 past five years when they were in this dispute. 1457 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:08.640 On nine news in My twenty yep, and they didn't. 1458 01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:12.880 But Obviously, we don't negotiate things like this at a 1459 01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:15.399 high level grant, so we're probably out of the loop 1460 01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:17.840 just a hair well, neither did they very well. 1461 01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:19.840 Exactly. 1462 01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:23.520 We'll be right back. This is a super fun story. 1463 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:30.199 Apparently a dossier that the Iranians have on jd Vance 1464 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:34.079 was given to a left wing reporter named Ken Klippenstein. 1465 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:39.359 Ken Clippenstein decided to just publish it on X. Now 1466 01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:44.760 what did this dossier have? It had things like private 1467 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:51.359 personal details, personal phone numbers, family details, social security numbers, 1468 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:57.319 home addresses, the whole nine yards, and Ken Clippenstein, with 1469 01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:01.640 his five hundred and nine thousand followers on X published it. 1470 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:08.039 And what's hilarious is that the noted thinker Keith Olberman, 1471 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.680 and I put both noted and thinker in air quotes there. 1472 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:14.840 What do you ever wonder? Like, what the hell happened 1473 01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:19.840 to Keith Olberman? What what went wrong in that guy's life? 1474 01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:23.199 I mean, he started out as this kind of really funny, 1475 01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.560 sharp witted host of ESPN. Do you remember Keith Olberman 1476 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:27.159 on ESPN? 1477 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:29.600 Yeah, he almost ruined sports for me when he came 1478 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:30.920 back the second time around. 1479 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:35.439 But how can everything be so negative? He's just he's 1480 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.920 he's one of those people that has this it just 1481 01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:41.640 inate ability to only see the bad, right, and he 1482 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.279 only saw the bad when Ken Clippenstein was suspended from 1483 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:49.000 x for violating their terms of service, doxing is prohibited, 1484 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.119 and this is like the king of doxing. So now 1485 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.319 I hope mister Clippenstein is happy because now he has 1486 01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.920 allowed bad actors. And hey, it's not like anybody's tried 1487 01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:03.439 to killed Trump or anything a couple of times. So 1488 01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:08.199 now JD. Vance's little children and wife are probably they've 1489 01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:11.720 probably already been removed from their home. I mean, what 1490 01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:17.760 a brave thing this guy did. I have a very 1491 01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:26.079 strong feeling about things like protesting outside someone's home, about 1492 01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:29.239 showing up in their driveway or outside their driveway to 1493 01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:33.039 yell about whatever they've done. Politically, I think that in 1494 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:35.520 the world that we're living in right now, where people 1495 01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:37.960 are trying to kill Donald Trump, and we know the Iranians, 1496 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.720 or at least the Secret Service advised Donald Trump that 1497 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:46.439 the Iranians had had found a or had decided that 1498 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:49.840 they were going to issue and ask an assassination order 1499 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.720 on Donald Trump. So we already know that the violence 1500 01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.680 coming from the left on behalf of the Iranians is real. 1501 01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:58.399 We already know this. 1502 01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:00.840 Now it may not be on behalf of the Iranians. 1503 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.800 They just may share a common goal, to be clear. 1504 01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:09.399 But two people have tried to murder President Trump, and 1505 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:14.000 now this guy thinks that publishing a dossier that was 1506 01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:19.199 gotten by I believe hacking on X says if it's 1507 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.600 no big deal, as if he's somehow doing a public service. 1508 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:23.039 Now let me ask you guys this. 1509 01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:23.359 Now. 1510 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.760 I realize I'm talking to a right leaning audience, but 1511 01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:29.600 does knowing where JD Vance's children are make you more 1512 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:33.000 or less likely to vote for Kamala Harris. I'm being 1513 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:39.960 genuine because I certainly can't imagine that. Cannot imagine that. 1514 01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:44.479 So we'll see what happens. But Ken Clippenstein and I 1515 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:47.239 hope he's sad to see his five hundred and nine 1516 01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:50.600 thousand followers on X go bye bye, because they will 1517 01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:54.199 because I don't think he's coming back. By the way, 1518 01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.560 Elon Musk, if you click on the tweet that I 1519 01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:59.279 posted on the blog today, you can see Elon Musk 1520 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:02.399 respond by saying, this is one of the most egregious, 1521 01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:06.399 evil doxing actions we've ever seen. Presidential candidates are not 1522 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:09.640 speculatively in danger. There have already been two attempts on 1523 01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:14.760 Donald Trump's life. Moreover, the included detailed information on the 1524 01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:19.199 addresses of their children. So here's the thing. Do I 1525 01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:23.159 think it should be illegal to out someone like that? 1526 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:23.680 Maybe? 1527 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:30.119 Maybe not, But we shall see what happens now. I 1528 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:31.800 just wanted you to know about that. When we get back, 1529 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:33.920 we're gonna do something fun for the last half hour. 1530 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:37.439 Comedian Matthew Brizard coming in next. Keep it right here 1531 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.720 on Kiawa. There is a guy, and I'm just gonna 1532 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.560 assume because I know Mel the wonderful pr person for 1533 01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.720 comedy works well enough to know she probably wouldn't write 1534 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:52.560 the following paragraph herself. Matthew Brossard is a disgraced financial 1535 01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.920 analyst forced into stand up comedy. The byproduct of a 1536 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.479 Cajun chemist and a Jewish microbiologist, he holds a degree 1537 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:02.840 in compyational mathematics. He always manages to bring up just 1538 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:05.600 did it, and it's fully aware of how doushe he looks. 1539 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.800 Matthew Brossard, I'm gonna assume you probably had something to 1540 01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:10.479 do with that particular paragraph. 1541 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.000 I had a hand in that. I did have a 1542 01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:12.479 hand in that. 1543 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.359 I think it's an interesting way to present yourself because 1544 01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:17.359 in a way, it's like a humble brag of like, yes, 1545 01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:20.079 look how good my genes are and how smart I am. 1546 01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:22.279 I need to sell myself in some way. 1547 01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:24.359 It's the one place you're not allowed to be humble, 1548 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:27.119 as in writing that that description for yourself. 1549 01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:28.119 Now are you can? 1550 01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:28.399 Really? 1551 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:30.479 He's easy to work with, It shows up on time, 1552 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.600 and it costs less than other comedians. 1553 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.199 And good at math and good at maths in case 1554 01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:38.960 somebody has a complex equation at the comedy club that 1555 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:39.720 needs to be solved. 1556 01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.199 If you need financial advice or just someone to explain 1557 01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:45.520 how compound interest works, I'm a good backboard. 1558 01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.159 So let me ask you two questions related to your background. 1559 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.520 Number one, I'm assuming that you grew up in a 1560 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:53.560 household where it was Matthew, where are you going to college? 1561 01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:55.560 Not if you go to college, where are you going 1562 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:55.920 to college? 1563 01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:56.079 Yes? 1564 01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:01.159 So, how do you get from computational, mathematic and financial 1565 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:04.119 world into stand up comedy? 1566 01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:08.840 It was for me the ultimate act of rebellion. It 1567 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:10.640 was funny because it's not that crazy of a thing 1568 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:10.840 to do. 1569 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:11.319 But for me. 1570 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:13.159 I was like, ah, I thought I was gonna be 1571 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:16.079 I was told I was going to use math in 1572 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:16.760 some capacity. 1573 01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:17.119 I was told. 1574 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.600 I was not told yeah, or a model or anything. 1575 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:21.840 There was just like your your like, your skills in 1576 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.279 this world are mathematics, not not even interpersonal skills. You 1577 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.439 were you were good at math. We're a math family. 1578 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.439 So you're going to do a job based around that. 1579 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.279 And I believe them. And then I did a open 1580 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:33.880 mic when I was twenty four years old, and I 1581 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:35.880 was not bad at it. I had a lot of 1582 01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:37.359 room to improve it, like, but I could also do 1583 01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.039 this as a job, and it was just like everything 1584 01:21:39.159 --> 01:21:43.279 just it felt like it's It felt like it felt 1585 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:44.880 like one of those movies where someone's in a cult 1586 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:46.039 and then they realized. 1587 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:47.800 There was a whole world outside that they're allowed to 1588 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:48.239 go into. 1589 01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:49.560 I felt like I was like I was going to 1590 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:51.239 ask it sounded like you found out you were not 1591 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.760 Asian when you were twenty three years old. You're like, 1592 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:55.880 I'm good at math. That's what we're gonna I mean, 1593 01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.439 I'm making a stereotypical joke, but it's a positive. 1594 01:21:58.840 --> 01:21:59.960 I'm Jewish and it's pretty close. 1595 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.399 I think Jews and Asians relate to the same kind 1596 01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:03.359 of pressure from their parents. 1597 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:05.560 What did you What was that conversation like when you 1598 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.960 were like, hey Mom, hey Dad, I've decided that after 1599 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:10.560 get it, get it. Where'd you go to school? 1600 01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:11.439 Rice? 1601 01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:13.560 Okay, so you went to a very good school in 1602 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.039 Texas and you come back and say, hey, I'm just 1603 01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:18.399 gonna throw throw caution to the wind. I'm gonna go 1604 01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:21.039 after this stand up comedian thing. What happened there? 1605 01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:25.279 In true So, in true actuarial form. 1606 01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.119 I did not quit my job to start doing comedy. 1607 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.840 I was still you know, timid enough and well trained 1608 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.640 enough to like hold on to my job as long 1609 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.720 as possible and and try to, you know, keep a 1610 01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:38.600 day job while doing comedy at night and just see 1611 01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:40.760 how far I could go before it tore me in half. 1612 01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.920 And luckily I got fired from my job, we know, 1613 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:47.319 because of comedy, because I was really just stretching myself 1614 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:49.880 too thin and traveling and not telling my boss. 1615 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:51.199 Where I was. 1616 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:54.960 And it's actually an important job. It's like something you 1617 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.680 could just mail it in, right, Yeah, if when you 1618 01:22:57.760 --> 01:22:59.479 miss an audit, you get in a lot of trouble. 1619 01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:02.399 When you got fired, were you at a position where 1620 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:04.840 you thought, I'm not going to starve if I just 1621 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:06.279 go full board with comedy thing. 1622 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:07.800 I thought I was going to starve. I didn't think 1623 01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:09.760 it was going to work out. I guess start have 1624 01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:10.760 to find a job as a waiter. 1625 01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:11.520 Woe is me. 1626 01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.039 I just moved to la and I had that job. 1627 01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:16.600 I was able to work that job. Remote was the 1628 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:18.600 deal I worked out with. My boss was really really 1629 01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:20.600 cool of him. And then I screwed up something really 1630 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:23.880 bad and I basically had to resign in shame. And 1631 01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.600 I had like two months of being afraid, and then 1632 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:29.239 I booked a bunch of college shows. So not that 1633 01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:31.079 harrowing of a journey all things considered. 1634 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:33.319 This is just I mean, is it just because you're 1635 01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:35.039 good looking that you've just been able to coast through 1636 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.079 all these various things? Is that what you attribute it to. 1637 01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:39.680 I've just gotten so lucky at every stage in my life, 1638 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:43.159 just everything, just I jump off things, and that's appeared 1639 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:43.479 for me. 1640 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.319 Sometimes I just feel very very grateful for that. 1641 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.359 I will tell you that I my little production company 1642 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.520 that I have on the side is called Serendipitous Productions, 1643 01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:54.920 because I, like you have made some decisions that have 1644 01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.399 looked like dumbassy from the outside looking in, but they 1645 01:23:57.439 --> 01:23:58.399 all kind of panned out. 1646 01:23:58.720 --> 01:23:59.880 Yes, stumbling upwards or what. 1647 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.720 Yeah, that's a great way to put it for failing. 1648 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:04.880 Upwards is the term. But yeah, just that kind of oops. 1649 01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.680 Ohoh things ended up better. Uh yeah, it's a weird. 1650 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.920 And the job you have is like this is a 1651 01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:14.319 really what what you do is highly sought after, highly competitive, 1652 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.960 and for every position like this, there's a thousand people 1653 01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:18.760 who worked as hard as they could and didn't get 1654 01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:20.439 it and are bruised and battered because of it. 1655 01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:23.960 Well, now they have a podcast. Yeah, so that is 1656 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:25.680 true of comedians as well. I would say all the 1657 01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:27.319 failed stand of comedians all have podcasts. 1658 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:27.920 It's required. 1659 01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:29.720 So do you have a podcast? 1660 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:31.479 I'm so bad about it. 1661 01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:34.239 I have one with my fiance and we probably do 1662 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:35.680 one episode every four months. 1663 01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:37.640 Because she was like, you know what, I'm not going 1664 01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:38.399 to take care of this one. 1665 01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:40.199 I'm gonna I'm gonna let you edit this and see 1666 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:41.800 too that it gets done, just to show that you 1667 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.359 care about it. And guess what, I don't. So I 1668 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:46.960 tried to do a podcast with her. We've had some 1669 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:48.840 great guests. We've had, like you know Mit Tail Lane 1670 01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.239 and Taylor Tomlinson. We've had really wonderful people on the podcast, 1671 01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:52.159 but they need to do more of it. 1672 01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.119 You talk about your now fiance. I actually was going 1673 01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:56.800 to ask you because over the last few years I've 1674 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.359 been with my girlfriends four years, six years. I'm like, 1675 01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:00.960 be gonna put a on it. Why did you take 1676 01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:01.800 so long? Matthew? 1677 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:02.600 Oh? 1678 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:04.600 Why did I take so long? I didn't know there 1679 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:05.159 was pressure. 1680 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:07.119 I don't know. I don't know why it took so long. 1681 01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:09.560 She proposed to me, So that's how long we waited. 1682 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:11.840 Okay, so why did you take her so long? We'll 1683 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:13.399 ask her that question at a later time. But you 1684 01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.479 just told me. She's actually now doing stand up as well. 1685 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:18.920 She also does comedy. Yes, so she started like four 1686 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.760 or five years ago. She did improv when we met. 1687 01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:23.520 And she was a professional swimmer when we met. 1688 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.239 So how does Wandn't be a professional swimmer? 1689 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:27.039 Is really? 1690 01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.359 Really good? Really really really do you. 1691 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:30.479 Do professional swimming? 1692 01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.359 Very college national champion and had you know since a 1693 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.600 very young age was a phenom, like eleven years old, 1694 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:38.479 was competing at nationals and you know, my fifteen years 1695 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:41.239 old was a finalisted Olympic trials and just just very 1696 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.920 very good. It's very impressive, very impressive athlete, and had 1697 01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.439 a great career as a national team member and represent 1698 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:49.560 the United States and won a silver at Worlds and 1699 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:54.840 a national champion many times. But she is surprised to 1700 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:57.880 say the hours of stand up comedy and the hours 1701 01:25:57.920 --> 01:25:59.560 of professional swimming don't don't. 1702 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.720 Oh yeah, well yeah those two am, those shut downs 1703 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:05.880 and six am starts probably not great. 1704 01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:09.319 Yeah, so she wasn't doing she wanted to do comedy then, 1705 01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:11.840 and then basically a couple of years of afterwards, she moved, 1706 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:13.439 We moved to New York together. She stops swimming and 1707 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.239 she starts working and finally feel comfortable to start doing 1708 01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:18.000 open mic since she's done an excellent job, and she 1709 01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.199 comes with I think she came with me last time here. 1710 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:23.560 She's not here this time, but because she's too busy 1711 01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:25.720 doing comedy in New York, and I for her, Good 1712 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:26.039 for her. 1713 01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:28.119 How do you come up with your bits? Because I 1714 01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.960 got to tell you, I love all the medical stuff 1715 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.119 you do because it sort of mirrors the stuff that 1716 01:26:33.199 --> 01:26:35.399 I find interesting. I always have medical stuff on my 1717 01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:37.760 blog because I want my listeners to know the latest stuff, 1718 01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:39.479 but of course you make it funny or if I 1719 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:42.000 just make it informative. If you make it funny, why 1720 01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:43.560 what takes you in that direction? 1721 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.279 I like a joke that can start with a piece 1722 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.039 of information that I find interesting, that is not widely known, 1723 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.079 and then try to build the comedy around that. So 1724 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:55.279 I do like when comedy can be kind of informative 1725 01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.720 while it happens to be funny. I was fortunate and 1726 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.720 that you know, my mom was was a microbiologist and 1727 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:04.600 my dad was a chemist. So I was constantly bombarded 1728 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:08.560 with tidbits of fascinating information that that that's stuck in 1729 01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:10.199 my head, and over the years I found a way 1730 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.039 to put them together. You're just learning about I have 1731 01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:16.239 a long chunk online about how many major medical breakthroughs 1732 01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:18.720 or by accident, and you know, you discover one, you 1733 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:20.720 read more about it, and you you find that it's 1734 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:21.720 kind of a string of things. 1735 01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:25.039 Park I was it called bagra was a hard medication? 1736 01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.359 Yeah, the person of the audience yelling out what everything 1737 01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:30.239 originally was for. 1738 01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:32.880 Because that's kind of nerd I am. You'd be rare 1739 01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:34.880 one one hundred people knows that in terms of like 1740 01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.239 asking the crowd. It's pretty because I girl, Matthew, I 1741 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:39.439 know all that stuff. Father, like your right hand shout 1742 01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:41.880 outer in the crowd, like I do that. Do you 1743 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:44.920 know the eyelash the stuff you used to make your 1744 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:45.760 eyelashes longer? 1745 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:47.800 That I do know? 1746 01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:51.000 The late not la Si. It's I did know at 1747 01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:52.279 one point, wasn't. 1748 01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:54.439 It for I don't remember Clackoma. 1749 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:56.439 I knew it was an eye disease. I just didn't 1750 01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:56.960 know which one. 1751 01:27:57.079 --> 01:27:59.319 Yeah, And they noticed it was giving people longer eyelashes. 1752 01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:00.840 So maybe Lene was like that's ours now. 1753 01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.279 Sad but true though, I mean, it really is your 1754 01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:07.840 entire bit. I got to tell you if you don't 1755 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:12.279 know anything about IUDs, Matthew is your guy to not 1756 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:15.520 actually tell you how they work, but to tell you 1757 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:18.119 how they work in a way that is both charming 1758 01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:20.359 and wrang and. 1759 01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:22.119 A lot of a lot of it's intrect, which is 1760 01:28:22.159 --> 01:28:22.680 fun as well. 1761 01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:26.199 So when you are dealing, I'm fascinated by the relationship 1762 01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.600 you have with your girlfriend, Like do you ever just say, okay, 1763 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:30.760 listen to this. Do you ever bounce stuff off her? 1764 01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:32.840 And when you do something and you think is going 1765 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:34.119 to be really really good, and then you kind of 1766 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.239 get the dull stare of the dairy cowl back. You're like, dang, 1767 01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:37.640 does that happen a lot? 1768 01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.680 It's it's oftentimes yeah, it's not a good way to 1769 01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:42.279 go about it. It's just like when she's sitting at 1770 01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:45.800 her desk, look is this funny? So try to try 1771 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.000 to take it and work on it and then bring 1772 01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.119 it to her. And you know what is nice to us? 1773 01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:50.840 You know, we go and walk together and we talk 1774 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:53.680 a lot, and when someone says something, we're like, ooh. 1775 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:54.159 That's good. 1776 01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:56.720 And then sometimes there's a custody battle or whatever says 1777 01:28:56.800 --> 01:28:59.439 something or like that might be I said it, but 1778 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.119 maybe be funnier coming from you. And then you said this, 1779 01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.039 and I maybe I could play with that a little bit. 1780 01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.039 So so it's fun kind of bouncing it is around. 1781 01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:08.439 Will you talk about your girlfriend in the in the act. 1782 01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.199 But you know, some comedians can be critical and a 1783 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.439 little I think a little harsh about their snouts. Is 1784 01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.399 that I always wonder like how does that play at home? 1785 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.239 You know what I mean? But you're not You're very 1786 01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:21.279 complimentary and kind to your your girlfriend, now fiance, does 1787 01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:23.119 that change when she becomes a wife? I mean, you know, 1788 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:25.159 everything goes downhill once you get married, but you should 1789 01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:25.279 do it. 1790 01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:27.800 I'm not sure if her whole rule is you can 1791 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:29.960 say whatever you want about me if you make enough money. 1792 01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.239 So there's certain jokes I want to do, and she says, here, 1793 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:34.279 here's how much money you have to make to do 1794 01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:34.760 that joke. 1795 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.479 She gives you a bar that's pretty highs a great 1796 01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:40.000 joke too, but that's convenient. You should actually set up 1797 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.920 a Patreon, like I could go fundme or something to 1798 01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:45.439 be like my wife to be says, I can tell 1799 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:47.880 certain jokes if we make this amount of money and 1800 01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:49.720 then you just like walk up with a check. 1801 01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:50.199 There you go. 1802 01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:53.279 Yeah, that's why I would donate. Not a bad idea. 1803 01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:56.319 I would donate the passive aggressively donate. I would do that. 1804 01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:59.159 I would help you with that. I would five ten bucks, 1805 01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:02.520 twenty bucks, whatever, and then you're in you can hear 1806 01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:02.960 the real you. 1807 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:05.159 That's a really good idea. 1808 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:05.840 I do. 1809 01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:08.039 I have a million of them, a million. I feel 1810 01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:09.119 free taken with it. 1811 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:14.119 Yeah, good publicity. And then at that point now I'm 1812 01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:15.439 like it just that good. 1813 01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.239 But they won't know which jokes, right, I mean just 1814 01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.159 he just says, there are jokes in this set that 1815 01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:21.880 you had to pay for. 1816 01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:24.920 This has been a very productive creative session, and I 1817 01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:26.000 really appreciate. 1818 01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.439 That work that it details. But I'm really good at 1819 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.199 big ideas. Okay, so if I had minions, Like, if 1820 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.520 I had minions, I could have already taken over the world. 1821 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:35.560 But I come up with these great ideas and then 1822 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:37.800 I and no one's listening, and then I say them, 1823 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:39.680 and then and then nothing ever happens. 1824 01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:42.399 There's that sounds like, I don't know what I'm allowed 1825 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:45.279 to say on this program curse. I was gonna say 1826 01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:47.520 it sounds like a lot of a specific drug. The 1827 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:49.439 symptoms of one specific drug is you have a lot 1828 01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:52.319 of good, big ideas, but you don't have the detailed 1829 01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:52.840 follow through. 1830 01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:55.560 I'm not saying that there was anything like that involved. 1831 01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:57.880 I'm just saying that I have always been a big 1832 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:01.560 idea person. So mile has all right? Have you you've 1833 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.560 played here before? Yes, I always asked medians about comedy 1834 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:06.239 works because it's such a great venue. 1835 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:06.840 It is. 1836 01:31:07.760 --> 01:31:10.119 I would I would say, if you asked one hundred 1837 01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:12.760 working comics what their favorite club is, they would you 1838 01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:14.760 would hear mostly comedy works. 1839 01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:16.560 It's just always ahead of the curb takes. 1840 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.239 Her of comics, great crowds, phones, the bags. It's just 1841 01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:21.359 it's it's it's a good experience all around. 1842 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:23.920 The bad thing was the first time I'd ever done 1843 01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.000 that on Saturday night when I wait to see Billy Gardell, 1844 01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:28.760 I don't hate it. Do you guys ever have pushback 1845 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:31.239 when people like with kids or babysitters or stuff like that. 1846 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.159 Now a little bit, she's a little oompikito is a 1847 01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:37.600 little bit there. Yeah, when you decide what kind of 1848 01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:39.319 comedy you're gonna do, like, how do you approach this? 1849 01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:43.000 Because at Comedy Works on Saturday night we saw the 1850 01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:46.039 Opher who was just like scorched Earth and hilarious but 1851 01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:49.640 very inappropriate, And then you know, Billy Gardell works mostly clean, 1852 01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:51.479 very You know, you could probably take your grandm on 1853 01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:53.840 there and not yet said how much of thought do 1854 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:55.680 you give into that? Like do you work blue? How 1855 01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:57.039 do you how do you make those choices? 1856 01:31:57.239 --> 01:31:59.359 There's only two sets. I have the set I want 1857 01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:00.680 to do. In this set I have to do. 1858 01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:05.359 Okay, so it's always finding how much so I want 1859 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.359 to do? Is going to have certain things that aren't 1860 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:10.560 necessarily going to work? Every time I have a lot 1861 01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:13.279 of math jokes right now that are not that sounds. 1862 01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:14.920 I swear they're good. If you're listening to this, I 1863 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:16.640 swear they're the best math jokes you guys. 1864 01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:19.199 Kaminsky is like, oh my god, this guy's the funniest 1865 01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:19.840 comic ever. 1866 01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:22.359 Because you do math jokes. They're solid. They're really solid. 1867 01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:24.159 If you're like math, there' like come see the show. 1868 01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.640 I swear you'll you will enjoy them. That's a hard 1869 01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:27.680 cell for some audiences. 1870 01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:28.359 I got to make sure in the. 1871 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:30.159 Right place against them up to my speed. 1872 01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:32.800 I have some political stuff that may cross some lines 1873 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:36.359 for both sides, and that's very fun for me because 1874 01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:37.920 it makes me feel very alive on stage when you 1875 01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:39.640 don't know. If you see a joke that you know 1876 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:41.039 gets a laugh every time, you're not going to say 1877 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:43.239 it with as much enthusiasm y I say it. If 1878 01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:44.560 you're pulling the pin in a grenade and waiting to 1879 01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:46.800 see if it's a dud or a hit, you're going 1880 01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:49.119 to be very alive and a much better performer for it. 1881 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:51.720 So it's a little like putting, you know, your tongue 1882 01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:53.439 on a sore tooth a little bit, just to like 1883 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:55.439 wake yourself up, just zip you there. Yes, do you 1884 01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:57.479 ever just think to yourself if things are not going 1885 01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.600 as well as you were hoping, maybe you're not connecting 1886 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:02.520 or you know, not every show can be a gem, right, 1887 01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:05.039 I mean that's just the same here. Do you ever 1888 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:08.279 think to yourself, screw it. I'm throwing in all the 1889 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:10.760 math jokes. I'm just throwing it against wallet, just like time, 1890 01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:12.640 throw a caution to the wind and see what happens. 1891 01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:12.960 Yeah. 1892 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:16.000 I did not get into this job because I respect authority. 1893 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.880 So yes, a lot of times when I feel resentful 1894 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:20.920 of a crowd for not liking certain things, I will 1895 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:23.079 do more of those things just to push It was 1896 01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:26.039 a very spoiled response, but sometimes you just want to well, 1897 01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:28.039 if this is what, if I found what you don't like, 1898 01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:29.920 then I want to make you like that. 1899 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:32.159 I'm going to do it so much that you're gonna 1900 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:33.399 have to laugh, and just if it's. 1901 01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:35.760 Just laughter that's uncomfortable, or I'm just gonna go out 1902 01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:38.119 my way if like there's sometimes with the clouds sound 1903 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:39.640 and I'm not gonna like me anyway, at least I'm 1904 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:41.600 not going I'm gonna bomb with my dignity doing something 1905 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:43.319 that I'm proud of is The worst is when you 1906 01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:45.119 just start doing jokes for them and they still don't 1907 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:45.600 like you anyway. 1908 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:46.359 It just feels awful. 1909 01:33:46.479 --> 01:33:48.159 Do you remember the first time you ever bombed? 1910 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:50.039 The third time I did comedy. 1911 01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:54.840 See, I've had one show in my life since I 1912 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:56.600 got my own show in two thousand and five that 1913 01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.079 I did not do enough prep for. And I did 1914 01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:01.479 a five hour show and it was from five am 1915 01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:04.079 to ten am, and I am at like nine thirty 1916 01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.560 and I don't have a single I can't think of 1917 01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:09.880 a single story. I can't think of a single topic. 1918 01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:10.279 What else. 1919 01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:12.840 I'm like flopsweating, I've got to I'm like I got 1920 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:16.039 pit stains. I mean, it was the worst half hour 1921 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.640 of my entire life. And if you ask me of 1922 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:20.600 my listeners, they would not have known that it was 1923 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.279 that bad. But I will never forget that and I 1924 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:26.920 have never underprepared from that day. What is it like 1925 01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:29.439 to think back on that flop? And how does it 1926 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:30.720 change how you approach stuff now? 1927 01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:31.840 That one? 1928 01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:33.920 I mean I bombed the third sets through probably the 1929 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:35.760 one hundredth set. The first two just not going to 1930 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:38.479 go well. Are there bombs that make me like change? 1931 01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:40.960 How I there's some sets you just didn't prepare enough for, 1932 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.439 and I could definitely relate to that. That's often not 1933 01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:45.600 stamped well in general some nights if I say, I think, 1934 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:46.880 I know I said, and you got there, and then 1935 01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:48.600 you do it kind of the wrong order and have 1936 01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:50.199 to go back to do a joke. So it's just 1937 01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:52.199 anytime you sit down and write before the show's going 1938 01:34:52.239 --> 01:34:54.279 to go better. That my old, my little silly illium 1939 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:56.359 is that the more you plan, the more you can improvise. 1940 01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:01.840 That's really actually very boring. Yeah, yes, that's kind of 1941 01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:02.600 like smart. 1942 01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:04.359 So I always noticed when I sit and write a 1943 01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:06.880 set list, I actually end up trying more stuff, which 1944 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:08.399 is odd because you think if you don't plan, you're 1945 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:09.239 gonna go off course. 1946 01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:09.760 Where is it? 1947 01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:11.560 Actually, if you don't plan, you stay very you have 1948 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:13.640 a more predictable route. You're gonna just do the just 1949 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.840 kind of you don't have time to think of what 1950 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:17.800 jokes and new next. You're just going to automatically default 1951 01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:18.640 to the safest. 1952 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:19.079 Joke you can do next. 1953 01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:20.479 But and it doesn't it kind of give you like 1954 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.359 an island from which to dive into the stream list. 1955 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:25.600 I mean, truly, if I had just a flow chart 1956 01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:26.439 on stage. 1957 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:27.119 Is do this joke. 1958 01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:29.319 Now, if that joke works, to this joke at bit bombs, 1959 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:31.279 go back to this. But if it works, skip to 1960 01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:34.520 this right yeah, so yeah, and it makes you present. 1961 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:37.079 That's actually a really interesting window into the world of 1962 01:35:37.119 --> 01:35:38.960 how a comedian's mind worked. I appreciate that. 1963 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.479 There's there's oddly like what I feel in my mind 1964 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.359 is there's a good wheel will meter next to me 1965 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:45.760 on stage like that kind of like te just this number, 1966 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:48.000 like the Applauso meter. Yeah, and it's going up and up. 1967 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:49.600 The crowd likes me because this show work, this show 1968 01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:51.279 to works, this woe's work. Okay, now they like me. 1969 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:52.920 I've done it, totally, bunch of shows throw. Now I'm 1970 01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:54.600 gonna do a bad one, a new one that I 1971 01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:58.000 don't think is there yet, just to see and it works, 1972 01:35:58.039 --> 01:35:59.279 but it doesn't work super well. So now I have 1973 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.520 a little bit less will, right, So maybe I should do. 1974 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:03.000 A good joke. But if I do another new joke again, 1975 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:03.520 I'd lose them. 1976 01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:05.039 Now I have no good will, and now I have 1977 01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:07.000 to kind of restart and do a bunch of I know, 1978 01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:08.000 tried and true jokes. 1979 01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:10.439 Maybe you should do what rock bands do Now, we're 1980 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:12.479 gonna do some jokes off our new album, and then 1981 01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.119 everybody can go get a beer. Yeah, and you just 1982 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:16.039 work stuff out like that. 1983 01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:18.079 I do do that a little bit. Sometimes I'll be like, hey, 1984 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:18.840 I just film special. 1985 01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:22.079 Here's some jokes that are I'll say, oh, yeah, I'm 1986 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:23.880 going to work on some new stuff. And by new stuff, 1987 01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:25.199 I mean we're doing these jokes for a couple of 1988 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:25.520 years now. 1989 01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:27.600 They still don't work, and you're just gonna keep just 1990 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:28.600 hammering away at it. 1991 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:29.920 And I'll just pull out a note card and just 1992 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:31.640 look through a couple Sometimes it's fun to do that 1993 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:32.960 with the crowd of just here's some new jokes. I'm 1994 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:34.399 gonna try them off this note card, and they're not 1995 01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:36.920 is for me. When they're new, it's a little tedious. Sorry, 1996 01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:39.640 But when they're new, it's not so much that they're bad, 1997 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:41.880 it's just that they're not connected. I have a long 1998 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:44.119 joke of connected ideas. What you actually have to do 1999 01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:45.880 is like building mosaic. You have to have all the 2000 01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:47.840 little pieces. You don't write it as one long joke. 2001 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:48.960 You write a bunch of jokes and then find a 2002 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:50.520 way to connect together. So what I need is the 2003 01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:52.520 pieces any a couple of one minute jokes. So I'm 2004 01:36:52.520 --> 01:36:53.960 gonna try a joke about men's fashion. 2005 01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:55.600 Do I have any other jokes about men's fashion. 2006 01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:57.079 No, but I'm gonna get this one working, and then 2007 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:59.079 one day I will need a joke about men's fashion. 2008 01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:00.239 And it's to get the perfect puzzle. 2009 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:03.479 Matthew Brissard is this weekend at the Landmark South Comedy 2010 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:07.159 Works location, and I feel like you're probably better for 2011 01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:10.840 a for a smart audience, I hope, So I'd like 2012 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:14.039 to be well, I mean, you're a computational math nerds, 2013 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:15.560 so what else? I mean, what else do you need 2014 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:15.760 to know? 2015 01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:16.560 Well? 2016 01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:23.000 Everyone, if you're an idiot, you can still come. Uh, 2017 01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:25.479 there will be no math at the actual event. Maybe 2018 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:27.880 a math joke. But Matthew, thank you so much for 2019 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:30.640 coming in. I really appreciate it, and you're gonna crush 2020 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:32.840 it this weekend. Now I should ask you if you 2021 01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:34.479 want to play our dumb game that we play at 2022 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.840 the end of every show. But some people are like 2023 01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:39.159 they lock up in any kind of competitive situation. But 2024 01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.159 I feel like you're smarty and you could probably pull 2025 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:41.520 us off. 2026 01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:43.520 I have a website of over five hundred puzzles I 2027 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:44.960 designed myself on Monday find. 2028 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:45.199 It dot com. 2029 01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:47.479 You do the cross road every day. I really really 2030 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:48.399 get intense about. 2031 01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:50.640 Games you're in. It's called of the day and it 2032 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:53.720 goes like this here, sit right over there, right, and 2033 01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.800 now it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio. 2034 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:58.800 Oven's gone hit it, Ryan. 2035 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:00.520 Do it? 2036 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:01.399 No, Ryan's got it. 2037 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:05.560 Of the day. 2038 01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.000 All right, First we do Dad joke of the day. 2039 01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:09.840 I don't know if you do any Dad jokes because 2040 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.199 you're not Dad yet. So we'll see what is our 2041 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:15.000 dad joke of the day. Please grant dad joke of 2042 01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:15.479 the day. 2043 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:18.560 What occurred when the cup of coffee got offended by 2044 01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:19.000 a joke? 2045 01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:20.880 I don't know? 2046 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:22.760 He steamed? 2047 01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:27.600 Hah. Yes, there you go, Dad joke of the day. 2048 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.439 Today's word is today? Please we guess badly what this 2049 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:31.119 word might be. 2050 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:32.159 So what is it? Grant? 2051 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:36.479 I thank you? Guys will both guess correctly. Okay. Lucid lucid. 2052 01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:41.239 Lucid means you're awake, in paying attention and conscious aware. 2053 01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:42.079 It's aware. 2054 01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:44.239 Yes, I was going to say, it's when your ego 2055 01:38:44.319 --> 01:38:45.520 has been let off the leash. 2056 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:48.239 Oh I like that. 2057 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:49.199 You are. 2058 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:55.760 Much You did yes, I think we're right about that. 2059 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.399 Today's trivia question what Romantic Comedy stars Billy Crystal and 2060 01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:02.600 Meg Ryan as friends who are considering taking their relationship 2061 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:04.239 to the next level. And if y'all don't know this, 2062 01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:06.239 thank you, Brian. 2063 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:08.319 I thought you were going to say here today the 2064 01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:09.399 Billy Crystal movie. 2065 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:15.720 Harris, and yeah, stop it anyway, Okay, now here's how 2066 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:19.279 this works. Matthew. We played Jeopardy and it's a blood 2067 01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:21.239 sport on this show. So if you know the answer 2068 01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:23.119 to the question, you do not have to wait until 2069 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:25.560 the end to yell out your name, Matthew, and then 2070 01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:27.800 you answer in the form of question to yell out 2071 01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:29.800 your name, and then you answer the form of question. 2072 01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:31.920 What do you'll recognize? I've been doing this for a 2073 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:32.960 long time. We're just letting you know. 2074 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:33.600 Here it is. 2075 01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:36.600 Ryan's won the last three what's her Jeopardy category? Well, 2076 01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:41.279 we're going back to sports, so he'll probably for me 2077 01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:44.439 to really know right category one. 2078 01:39:44.840 --> 01:39:50.239 Okay, we will do propositional book titles, Oh god, Okay. 2079 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:55.920 This novel was originally published as Latour DuMond in Quatre 2080 01:39:56.399 --> 01:40:00.239 Ving's Yours Matthews Ahead. 2081 01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:06.399 Around the World in eighty days. Will wait, Matthew, I 2082 01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:10.279 heard I took Spanish and not French, so eighty is. 2083 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:13.880 Actually literally four twenty cat is four twenty. They don't 2084 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:16.159 have the word eighty. Oh wow, wow, it's. 2085 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:17.920 Right now. 2086 01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:20.319 Okay. Next question. 2087 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:25.159 This Stephen King novel has Chester's Mill, Maine suddenly sealed 2088 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:27.439 off from the rest of the world by an invisible 2089 01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:28.119 force field. 2090 01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:32.279 Manny, what is it? No, that's the clown one day? 2091 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.279 Correct chess with the preposition I know. 2092 01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:38.920 Preposition preposition? 2093 01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:43.239 Matthew, what is into thin air? 2094 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:44.600 Incorrect? 2095 01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:44.960 Okay? 2096 01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:49.279 Crying anything, but I can't. I can't think of it 2097 01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:50.840 right now? Is it under the dome? 2098 01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:53.439 Moving on? 2099 01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:53.880 Okay? 2100 01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:57.600 And this Nick Hornby novel, a twelve year old misfit 2101 01:40:57.720 --> 01:40:59.960 and a thirty six year old man child strike up 2102 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:00.920 a friendship, Manny? 2103 01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:02.000 What is and men? 2104 01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:02.920 Incorrect? 2105 01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:07.399 That is a preposition, strike up a friendship that teaches 2106 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:08.960 them both valuable lessons. 2107 01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:12.159 And it's not creepy at all that a man and 2108 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:14.359 a trial just strike up a friendship. That's a thirty 2109 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:17.640 six year old man child. Yeah, no, what is it 2110 01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:18.880 about a boy? 2111 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:19.840 Oh? 2112 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:20.600 I got that. 2113 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:21.439 I've seen that movie. 2114 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:30.000 Ye Radius. 2115 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:35.279 Ran If you know this Hemingway novel is about Robert Jordan, 2116 01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:38.079 who fights on the losing side many for whom the 2117 01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:42.319 bell tolls. Correct, I'm back to one hate hemywell all right, 2118 01:41:42.439 --> 01:41:45.720 and last one Virginia Wolf used a us. 2119 01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:50.079 Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf? Never mind a Virginia Wolf? Youse, 2120 01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:51.239 Stream of Consciousness? 2121 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:54.840 And this novel about the Ramsey family vacationing on the 2122 01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:55.920 Isle of Sky. 2123 01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:59.399 I need to read more books. Carlo Sky. We have 2124 01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:02.880 no idea. What is that to the lighthouse? Yeah, that 2125 01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.079 was a horrible category, but I think Matthew, you one 2126 01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:08.840 was zero yeah, well at zero yeah, when we're out 2127 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:10.479 of time because we got to make room the unfortune 2128 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:12.920 coming in grace. Don't see Matthew? Were sorry the smart 2129 01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.680 guy this weekend at Comedy Works. We'll be back tomorrow. 2130 01:42:15.800 --> 01:42:17.920 Keep it right here on. We'll be back Monday. Keep 2131 01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:18.479 it right here on. 2132 01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:18.920 Kowa