Speaker 1: Okay, it's Sarah Weren't and we're live. You can listen
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Speaker 1: and Hudson Valley, New York, and Uh our producer today
Speaker 1: is Bill Awesome. Thank you Bill for helping us out. Today,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to two young ladies that are
Speaker 1: the face of courage and are real fighters. So let
Speaker 1: me introduce so far who we've got so far. We've
Speaker 1: got Detective Jake Jacobs from Philadelphia on the side and
Speaker 1: the Officer involved Shooting Unit. And we've got our our
Speaker 1: Tennessee correspondent, Greg Highlands, a veteran n c I S
Speaker 1: Special Agent, and I'm Johnson and a veteran n c
Speaker 1: I Special Region. So again, Uh, you know, we've got
Speaker 1: two young ladies that are our special guest this hour,
Speaker 1: that are the epitome of courageous and fighting and uh
Speaker 1: they've done a lot, so I wanted to uh bring
Speaker 1: them both up. Can you can you bring Jennifer and
Speaker 1: Lacey up. We've got Jennifer Finnity, the wife of Sergeant
Speaker 1: Affinity from it's a transit police.
Speaker 2: Right correct, m b t A Okay.
Speaker 1: And then we have Lacey Lunceford, who's the wife of
Speaker 1: Brad Lunsford from Las cruse am I saying New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Lost crusis New Mexico. So you can tell the uh,
Speaker 1: they're both hideously uh politically motivated wrongful prosecutions of law
Speaker 1: enforcement professionals. Clearly there's you can see it's a blatant,
Speaker 1: politically motivated uh prosecution for both of those guys. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't have that happened because then as
Speaker 1: a law enforcements you just can't do your job because
Speaker 1: you're always looking beyond.
Speaker 3: You, you know.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you know, I guess we've got some before we
Speaker 1: get to the nuts and bolts of this thing, we
Speaker 1: have significant dates coming up. We've got the nineteenth of September,
Speaker 1: Brad lunch or Lacey's husband, has a hearing for a
Speaker 1: new trial, right, yes, sir. And the twenty second of
Speaker 1: September Sergeant Dave Finerty is allegedly supposed to be sentenced crazy,
Speaker 1: which is correct? I mean you can you can you
Speaker 1: can summarize these two cases by saying, one sergeant dayfinerity
Speaker 1: was accelerated of the charges before they even charge them federally.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and I'm sure you don't get
Speaker 1: it either, Lacey LUNs for husband, that Brad Lunsford, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice. I mean, he was trying to
Speaker 1: save his partner. And the bottom line is the subject
Speaker 1: killed himself. So those are that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 1: But it's important for you guys to know what's for
Speaker 1: our audience and everybody else to know what the hell's
Speaker 1: going on with these cases. I guess we'll start with Jennifer. Jennifer,
Speaker 1: can you give us a little idea, you know, a
Speaker 1: summary of the case and where we're at right now.
Speaker 2: Sure. Well, my husband went in for a normal shift.
Speaker 4: He was the sergeant maning manning the officer in charge desk.
Speaker 4: Because lieutenants called in that evening, he was on that
Speaker 4: duty while another sergeant was the patrol supervisor. During the evening,
Speaker 4: a patrolman used force on a individual on the te
Speaker 4: station train. They had gotten a call from the inspector
Speaker 4: saying that they couldn't get somewhere off of the train.
Speaker 4: The train was closing for the night. It was like
Speaker 4: one point thirty in the morning. So this officer went
Speaker 4: to go help the inspector get the homeless gentleman off
Speaker 4: of the train, and while he was on the train
Speaker 4: trying to get him off, the officer said that the
Speaker 4: homeless individual assaulted him, but there is no video of
Speaker 4: that on the train. There's only video outside of the train,
Speaker 4: so that the only video that we see is them
Speaker 4: coming off of the train, go to the platform and
Speaker 4: then moving to the escalator where the patrolman used his
Speaker 4: baton on the homeless gentleman three times, and back at
Speaker 4: the station when the officer comes with the homeless gentleman.
Speaker 4: Dave was going over the use of force incident with him,
Speaker 4: and Dave didn't believe what he was telling him.
Speaker 2: Things weren't adding up, so Dave.
Speaker 4: Told the supervisor, who happened to be the deputy chief
Speaker 4: and head of internal affairs, and Dave said, it didn't
Speaker 4: look like you know, it was not a good arrest
Speaker 4: and unlawful use of force, and they guaranteed Dave that
Speaker 4: he would look into it. And Dave was convicted for
Speaker 4: doing his job, while everyone else got to pass. We
Speaker 4: were in the case for four years and the day
Speaker 4: before trial the original police report our lawyers had asked
Speaker 4: for all along, we were told that it didn't exist.
Speaker 4: Suddenly appeared that piece of evidence exonerated my husband and
Speaker 4: then for a year he thought that we were okay,
Speaker 4: being able to start our chapter with this all behind us,
Speaker 4: and we find out that he was the topic of
Speaker 4: the federal investigation that was going on and the that
Speaker 4: charged him at the state level. Rachel Rollins was then
Speaker 4: promoted to US attorney under Biden, so she charged him
Speaker 4: at the state level, but then when she was US attorney,
Speaker 4: also charged him federally for basically the same charges that
Speaker 4: he was cleared of in the state case.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, just unbelievable. You know, Okay, so the homeless person,
Speaker 1: what's his status now?
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He was supposed to testify at the federal trial and
Speaker 4: they were unable to locate him.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: My thought is that they probably knew where he was.
Speaker 4: But my husband was the only one that talked to him.
Speaker 4: Nobody talked to me. At his side of the story,
Speaker 4: Dave's called ems for him.
Speaker 2: Dave was very kind, told him.
Speaker 4: How to tell his lawyer for any discovery that he
Speaker 4: would need. Nobody took the time to talk to him so.
Speaker 1: That they can't find that's bullshit. Excuse me, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it's convenient that they can't find effect witness. Yep,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not the first time
Speaker 1: it's happened. Incidentally, people do everything they can to There's
Speaker 1: one case where they hit the guy in a cabin
Speaker 1: in the woods, you know when you're thinking of But
Speaker 1: you know, that's what it came down to, because they
Speaker 1: didn't want him test testify. So may I ask what
Speaker 1: happened to the officer that actually did the lawful.
Speaker 4: Yes, he pled guilty in the state case, got two
Speaker 4: years probation, is allowed to collect his retirement and social Security, and.
Speaker 2: The trial.
Speaker 4: At the federal trial, he was allowed to say that
Speaker 4: in another proceeding.
Speaker 2: We couldn't mention the state case.
Speaker 4: But we had to call it another proceeding and he
Speaker 4: was allowed to say in another proceeding he pled guilty,
Speaker 4: but we weren't allowed to say in the very same
Speaker 4: proceeding that Dave was cleared.
Speaker 1: Okay, so boy, I'm going to get whacked for saying this,
Speaker 1: but that Okay, your husband is a is a Caucasian
Speaker 1: law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: And the officer who got two years probation for the
Speaker 1: use of unlawful use of force is African American.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, uh, everybody is except my husband.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Rachel Rawlins who initially brought that. Where does she
Speaker 1: work now?
Speaker 4: She is at a college in Roxbury, I believe, ahead
Speaker 4: of some program that is trying to educate criminals basically,
Speaker 4: and she had to resign in disgrace because she was
Speaker 4: caught interfering in the Suffolk.
Speaker 2: County DA race. And that race is part of.
Speaker 4: Dave's case because when she became the US attorney, Kevin Hayden,
Speaker 4: who was the interim DA for Suffolk County, was the
Speaker 4: one to clear Dave, and they said that he cleared
Speaker 4: Dave just to get back at the tea. Rachel Rollins
Speaker 4: was in the tea's pocket and vice varsa. They would, yeah,
Speaker 4: she's anti cop, they would feed cop incidents to her,
Speaker 4: and Kevin Hayden ended up winning the race. There was
Speaker 4: another can of it, Ricardo or roy O believe was
Speaker 4: his name. He was Rachel rowlins follower and was also
Speaker 4: connected in the tea's pocket and they were just men
Speaker 4: that Kevin Hayden won, so they were saying that they
Speaker 4: cleared if Jessica.
Speaker 3: Back knowledge the evidence.
Speaker 1: It's so blatant. I mean, this is appalling, right, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 3: Definitely?
Speaker 5: I mean I it's like you can't even wrap your
Speaker 5: mind around it.
Speaker 1: It's so absurd. I mean, anybody and their brother could
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's let's take a look at some of the
Speaker 1: the photos of the family. I mean, this is who
Speaker 1: they're trying to go after. I mean, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: This is Sergeant Infinity and Jennifer right, correct, and then Jennifer,
Speaker 1: who's that.
Speaker 2: Is my father? Now that's Dave's dad.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's awesome, Okay. And then we got the
Speaker 1: whole whole tribe there. Who were the little girl's names?
Speaker 4: Skyler is my oldest, she's ten, and Charlotte is seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the what is that cows?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went out for ice cream and that's there's
Speaker 4: a big firm there.
Speaker 1: I was lazy. I was looking for Matthew over Street
Speaker 1: out there to see anyway. Matthew ver Street has been
Speaker 1: a h I guess before with Lacey, and he's awesome.
Speaker 4: And then I have a twenty year old stepdaughter who
Speaker 4: goes to college in England. So Dave hasn't been able
Speaker 4: to even go see where she goes to school because
Speaker 4: he can't leave the country.
Speaker 1: Oh that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. So and did he win this?
Speaker 1: Did he did?
Speaker 2: And we didn't let him?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 1: Right? Okay, well where is this?
Speaker 2: This is in Maine?
Speaker 4: He's uh, this is at the harbor in Wells, Maine.
Speaker 4: And they have not to try to teach kids how
Speaker 4: to tie out. Stave was in the coast Guard, so
Speaker 4: he can tie all of those knots without the direction.
Speaker 2: So he's trying to teach the girls.
Speaker 1: That's a really good skill to have. It is, I like,
Speaker 1: a really good skill.
Speaker 2: To have whenever I tie a knot. He is like
Speaker 2: not happy with what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm sure, I'm sure. I mean, just keeping
Speaker 1: the names of the of the knots straight, it's crazy. Yes, Bill,
Speaker 1: can we bring up the the website for the Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a support Sergeant Sergeant David Finnerty's fight for justice.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is again, this is a clear, a blatant,
Speaker 1: politically motivated wrongful prosecution, and.
Speaker 4: She's just appalling this incident happened. I believe it was
Speaker 4: about six months after he was promoted. That is a
Speaker 4: picture from his promotional ceremony, and.
Speaker 2: You can see how little Charlotte is. She is a baby.
Speaker 4: She was three months and she was eight months when
Speaker 4: this all started, and she just turned seven.
Speaker 1: So any bitty's yeah, yeah, any pitty okay, So we'll
Speaker 1: revisit your case. I just want to, Lacy, can you
Speaker 1: give Prouss a small summary of what the hell got
Speaker 1: you here?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: So in August of twenty twenty two, Brad got a
Speaker 6: call to a gas station for shoplifting. I guess the
Speaker 6: cesspect has stolen a beer and he was still there.
Speaker 6: So Brad shows up. He gets to run the guy's name.
Speaker 6: It's a false name. I think he ended up giving
Speaker 6: him false information twice. So you know, they were trying
Speaker 6: to figure out if he sold the beer, who's this guy?
Speaker 6: Does he have warrants?
Speaker 3: All that?
Speaker 6: So he waits for his backup officer. He gets there,
Speaker 6: they go to pull him out of the vehicle and
Speaker 6: he starts fighting arburg Gass. The partner pulled the knife
Speaker 6: off his lap, the suspect's lap. Then they pulled him
Speaker 6: out Arbas tried to take him down.
Speaker 2: It went wrong.
Speaker 6: He ended up knocking his head, getting concussion, and the
Speaker 6: suspected up on top of him. And at this time
Speaker 6: he started trying to steal his duty weapon. He couldn't
Speaker 6: get that, so he got the taser. He started trying
Speaker 6: to manipulate the safety and that's when Brad had to
Speaker 6: use deadley force to save his partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just unbelievable. Let's take a look a couple of
Speaker 1: these photographs. Now, you know it's appalling that Brad as
Speaker 1: a former army member. Uh you know, it puts in
Speaker 1: the time to basically, uh save us overseas and then
Speaker 1: turns around and this happens. So this is Brad overseas, right, Yes, sir.
Speaker 6: He was. He was deplayed twice I racket for combat.
Speaker 2: He was a cavalry scout.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, because we talked. Your dad asked him
Speaker 1: if he knew what a scout? Oh yeah, oh boy,
Speaker 1: there's Brad. Okay, now, may I ask you not a
Speaker 1: peak contry? No it is it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our orchard behind him.
Speaker 1: See. Well, now now we know what a peak entry
Speaker 1: it looks like. And these little guys what their little
Speaker 1: guys names.
Speaker 6: So Logan is ten and Liam just turned seven, so
Speaker 6: our kids are the.
Speaker 1: Same age, Leah, But wow, that's crazy, that's crazy. So
Speaker 1: Liam is a little guy. Wow, you're smart for his
Speaker 1: own good.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like my seven year old.
Speaker 1: Wow, Bill, can you bring up the website for Brad
Speaker 1: Okay Brad Lunsford Legal Events Fund. So both of those funds, Uh,
Speaker 1: the Sergeant Affinity Fund and the Officer Brad Lunswered Fund.
Speaker 1: You know, we can we can't get we can't let
Speaker 1: this uh politically motivated Uh, you know, wrongful prosecutions stand
Speaker 1: because it could affect every law enforcement person in the country.
Speaker 1: And this is crazy.
Speaker 6: And do you know what it has started affecting our department.
Speaker 6: We've had a couple of shootings recently. And then you know,
Speaker 6: they're younger guys and they told when the sergeants, you
Speaker 6: know what, I hesitated. I thought of Brad and I hesitated,
Speaker 6: And that's gonna it's going to get somebody hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hesitation is going to get somebody killed. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 1: You have to rely on your training. I mean, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I think all three of us have been in situations
Speaker 1: where you don't have time to think, you know, you
Speaker 1: get you've got to do something based on your training
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that's the only way to stay
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So now both of you are with the Pipe Beetter Foundation,
Speaker 1: right correct?
Speaker 3: Bill? Can you bring that up? Okay?
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a pipe Paer foundation and uh, Lacy
Speaker 1: you've been on it for our brade's been on for
Speaker 1: a while and uh Dave just got on there. That's great. Yep,
Speaker 1: that congratulations brothers. So can you Bill? Can you bring
Speaker 1: that down a little bit? There's a photograph of Sergeant
Speaker 1: Finnerty and there's a photograph of Brad Lunser. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if we click on those what do they it
Speaker 2: brings you right to it.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so what's the We're gonna have to but
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to make shy runs for the website
Speaker 1: if we could. Can we do that unless unless they
Speaker 1: have exceptionally good eye sight. See hang on a second,
Speaker 1: let's see. Yeah, the the uh it's Pipe Hitterfoundation dot org.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 1: How you get to that? Can you hit the Brad
Speaker 1: Luncher want to learn more Brad Launcher?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we'll try to bring up the website
Speaker 1: for that. It's uh Bill, it's a Pipe Hitter Foundation
Speaker 1: dot org. And if you guys, if anybody goes to that,
Speaker 1: uh and I hope you do a lot Pipe Hitterfoundation
Speaker 1: dot org, you'll see just what we saw. There's a
Speaker 1: Sergeant Affinity and Officer Lunsford, and you know they really
Speaker 1: need your help, uh to uh fight this uh politically
Speaker 1: motivated wrongful prosecution. I mean, it's just a you can't
Speaker 1: say that enough. I mean, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: So and then for uh, let me see if we
Speaker 1: can the Brad Lunswort is a gifts end go for
Speaker 1: I think if you type in Brad luncertain gifts end go.
Speaker 1: And then for Dave Finnerty, it's donor Box dot org.
Speaker 4: Right, yep, that is the Pipe Pitters is the donor bo.
Speaker 4: We also have a gifts end go. Okay, the donor
Speaker 4: box is the pipe Pitters.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean this is brutal because I mean I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine the fallout from both of these things. Potentially
Speaker 1: you've got a you know, you've how long was Dave
Speaker 1: a with the Boston transfer.
Speaker 4: He was I believe it would have been sixteen years.
Speaker 4: He could have retired this August if he had stayed on.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lacy, how long was how long is Brad on?
Speaker 6: He was a nine year Metro at the time.
Speaker 1: Jeez, man, I mean you did you sacrifice that amount
Speaker 1: of time in your life to help other people? To
Speaker 1: say nothing of uh a day Farty having been in
Speaker 1: the Coastguard and Brad having been in the Army, just.
Speaker 6: Appalling, beating that they go after these heroes, you know,
Speaker 6: for doing their job.
Speaker 2: You know, Brad was justified by the department.
Speaker 6: He was clear, he was back at work when a
Speaker 6: year later we got the charges. So it's it's completely
Speaker 6: politically most.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, can you see, I mean you can see
Speaker 1: that there there was a substantive amount of time on
Speaker 1: both cases where one was exonerated one was cleared. You know,
Speaker 1: an extended period of time took place where somebody said
Speaker 1: or incidentally, you know, I want to bring this up
Speaker 1: to uh, I mean, just so you haven't understand, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've seen the bodycam video repeatedly, We've showed for Brad,
Speaker 1: and he didn't have a choice. He didn't have an
Speaker 1: option if you wanted to get home alive that night.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a choice period or his partner for
Speaker 1: that medal, but the subject was an African African American
Speaker 1: in a car.
Speaker 8: Call these things I don't know, Hope, I'm saying, Okay,
Speaker 8: we could call all these states politically motivated.
Speaker 3: It's not politically motivated.
Speaker 8: You know, someone if you're walking down a dark outing,
Speaker 8: it's Summo pulls a gun on you, rob you of
Speaker 8: your money, committed crop. You know, John just said that
Speaker 8: he watched the video of Brad. He had no choice.
Speaker 8: Then your husband wasn't even a location. And these people
Speaker 8: know that. You can't go One guy played guilty, but
Speaker 8: you can't mention it. You know, Brad was already clear.
Speaker 8: These are crimes that just because you have a position
Speaker 8: or a title, you don't have the.
Speaker 3: Right to ruin.
Speaker 8: You know, those children's lives, your lives of other copslides
Speaker 8: in the future, because I've had those officers tell me
Speaker 8: when you had a politically motivated arrest of a law
Speaker 8: enforcement officer rested for doing this job.
Speaker 3: It causes it's just human nature.
Speaker 8: You think we want to refeel, you hesitate and you
Speaker 8: get your brains blown out. You can't we all trained here.
Speaker 8: You gotta have that muscle memory. I don't have time
Speaker 8: to worry about it.
Speaker 3: A fucking excuse my.
Speaker 8: Language, but it pissed me off a day or whoever,
Speaker 8: they are not gonna get charged my muscleom he tells
Speaker 8: me to raise my tire.
Speaker 3: My sights and take you out. Simple.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not who's in this damn courtroom.
Speaker 3: And that's what Brad did and said.
Speaker 8: Obviously, if you want to call him a gentleman, he
Speaker 8: can't give it.
Speaker 3: That mean he was lying.
Speaker 8: I mean we all know that everyone was lying, and
Speaker 8: it's just everyone was lying. Why is your husband still
Speaker 8: going through this nonsense? You know, we saw the body
Speaker 8: go came, get off the soapbox, now call music. We
Speaker 8: saw the body going camera. We watched it whatever you
Speaker 8: use a forced expert, and we saw that what Brad
Speaker 8: did had he had no other choice.
Speaker 3: His partners did knock out on the damn ground.
Speaker 8: What you are, oh, he died, he loved what's this
Speaker 8: crazy lunatic who was hyped up with drugs blows this
Speaker 8: officer's brings up? Then you can have the speak ass
Speaker 8: ceremony saying they died doing.
Speaker 3: What they know. We don't want I'm totally I'm done.
Speaker 4: At Dave's federal trial, two officers finally, after seven years,
Speaker 4: they have never told anybody that when the patrolman came
Speaker 4: into this from the sally Port into booking, the homeless
Speaker 4: individual was in cuffs, and the patrolman put his hand
Speaker 4: up around the throat of the homeless gentleman while he
Speaker 4: was cuffed. In booking, a monitor room officer only said
Speaker 4: to Dave, we need to get out there, but never
Speaker 4: told him why. The booking officer said nothing, and all
Speaker 4: long said, oh, I broke it up. And at the trial,
Speaker 4: our lawyer like asked, you know, did you tell None
Speaker 4: of them told for seven years, that's a civil rights violation.
Speaker 2: That they both witnessed, and they never said anything.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And Dave didn't even know.
Speaker 4: Dave didn't never even watch full clips of the incident.
Speaker 4: The monitor room officer was controlling the video and he
Speaker 4: would fast forward to what he thought was important parts.
Speaker 2: So Dave never saw the full video, just saw clips.
Speaker 4: And Dave never saw the patrolman putting his hand around
Speaker 4: the throat of the homeless man until like a year
Speaker 4: later when we had evidence going over the evidence for
Speaker 4: a trial.
Speaker 1: What is it if you're remotely familiar with the Karen Reid,
Speaker 1: what is what Sally ports in Boston? And nothing good.
Speaker 2: Happens, Nothing good happens in a Sally for.
Speaker 1: If they're breaking back, you know, lights on, inverting videos exactly.
Speaker 1: That's appalling. Yep, that's appalling.
Speaker 4: And they when Dave at the trial, the deputy chief,
Speaker 4: who Dave told about this incident up on the stand,
Speaker 4: was asked, Dave never signed off on any reports. The
Speaker 4: Petroua Street supervisor was the one to sign off on
Speaker 4: the report, even though he knew it wasn't a true report.
Speaker 4: And our lawyers asked him why to the deputy chief,
Speaker 4: why did you allow them to sign the report? And
Speaker 4: he said it wasn't my job to tell a grown
Speaker 4: man with a gun and a badge to not sign
Speaker 4: a false police report. So then our lawyer further asked
Speaker 4: him some questions about it, and he doubled down again
Speaker 4: and said it's not my job to tell a military
Speaker 4: man of twenty years with the badge, I'm not to.
Speaker 2: Sign a falls police report.
Speaker 4: So they were watching live to time. The commands off
Speaker 4: the superintendent and the deputy chief for watching in lifetime.
Speaker 4: The report writing on the air administrative side where they
Speaker 4: could see and never stopped it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And they said that Dave should.
Speaker 4: Have known that this was on an unlawful arrest and
Speaker 4: unjustified use to forrest and should have released the homeless gentleman.
Speaker 4: But the deputy chief said that they didn't release him
Speaker 4: because he needed to look into it.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that Dave should have known, but.
Speaker 4: You the deputy chief, also head of internal affairs, was saying, well,
Speaker 4: I needed to investigate it more to see what you
Speaker 4: know transpired.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I mean, it's just I mean, it's a combination
Speaker 1: of a comedy of epic disasters and it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with your husband.
Speaker 4: No, and then we asked for self surrender, knowing he
Speaker 4: was the target of the investigation. So it didn't happen
Speaker 4: in front of my girls who were five and eight
Speaker 4: at the time, and the da US attorney, no, we
Speaker 4: arrest everybody, so my daughters for a save of kindergarten
Speaker 4: six in the morning, fed surrounded our house like he
Speaker 4: was a murderer. Only a few of our neighbors knew
Speaker 4: of the situation, so I had neighbors like texting me
Speaker 4: like is everything, okay?
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Like they thought that something bad happened
Speaker 2: and our house was surrounded.
Speaker 4: We had feds in our backyard or driveway in our
Speaker 4: neighbor's backyard and driveway in front of the house. My
Speaker 4: daughter was watching out the window. I went out to
Speaker 4: tell them that I Dave would be right out. He
Speaker 4: had an outfit readying that they were becoming at some point.
Speaker 4: Then I went out to say that he would be
Speaker 4: right out, and they wouldn't let me back inside until
Speaker 4: he was out, even though they had him on the phone,
Speaker 4: while my girls were crying and screaming in the bedroom afraid.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you this. Did they do
Speaker 1: a search warrant of the house? They did not, No,
Speaker 1: because it was no there was no need to do that.
Speaker 2: Right, And they did not have body cameras on. They
Speaker 2: didn't have body cameras.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just an exercise in publicity.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 5: It was all for show.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 5: The best hated person in the world, a white copy.
Speaker 3: What you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's all over the place, at least in
Speaker 1: uh you know, I forgot to well, I did mention
Speaker 1: Jennifer is in the Boston area and Lacey is in
Speaker 1: a New Mexico area. Okay, both of which that have
Speaker 1: had significant problems.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, we're the most dangerous state in the whole country.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, now, I'm not surprised now. Ah, just
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it sends a bad signal to
Speaker 1: everybody on the street now that you've got to sit
Speaker 1: and think about it before you do and while you're
Speaker 1: thinking about it, you're dead. So ah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So Lacey, uh turrying. The course of Brad's trial, Uh,
Speaker 1: the the prosecution presented a couple expert witnesses, right, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: can you It's just so we recall that there were
Speaker 1: two of them, right, weren't there two of them?
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 1: The doctor White, Yeah, doctor White. So he's the a
Speaker 1: U S at the Arizona State University guy. Okay, that
Speaker 1: his niches, you.
Speaker 6: Know, he's a taser expert.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, Yes, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: In Officer Lumford's, uh, situation is that we watched the
Speaker 5: video several times, and the fact is is that the
Speaker 5: subject was non cooperative from the get go, and there
Speaker 5: was a classic, classic textbook example of how everything goes south,
Speaker 5: and he did everything. He didn't want to give his
Speaker 5: real name, didn't want to show his hands, was hiding
Speaker 5: some and underneath him when he was in the passenger
Speaker 5: side of the vehicle, and then becomes aggressive as he
Speaker 5: exits the vehicle. And then the whole tussle goes down
Speaker 5: and you can clearly see the subject on top of
Speaker 5: the other officer and the struggle going for either the
Speaker 5: weapon or you know, the taser, and you can see
Speaker 5: Officer Lunsford trying to pull the subject off the officer
Speaker 5: with all his might, exerting a great amount of force,
Speaker 5: and comes from the point that he has no choice.
Speaker 5: This is something that we tach every law enforcement, whether
Speaker 5: you're a beat walking cop or a federal agent, we
Speaker 5: all have the same constructions. We have other governing organizations
Speaker 5: that govern how we do business. And it's just mind
Speaker 5: blowing in this case that the Attorney General, the top
Speaker 5: fucking cop of the state of New Mexico, is going
Speaker 5: to call in some bozo professor who never did the
Speaker 5: fucking job to testify as your expert witness. Why wouldn't
Speaker 5: you go to your own people and have them your
Speaker 5: old people, being the New Mexico State Police from the academy.
Speaker 5: Anybody a post certified instructor, bring them in as your
Speaker 5: your subject. Bet are expert. And the only reason why
Speaker 5: you wouldn't do that is because you know they would
Speaker 5: give you the wrong fucking answer.
Speaker 1: Right there you go. It's like two cents and all true, yes, correct.
Speaker 3: And then two other subjects in the car we also have.
Speaker 3: You know, we still have two other subjects.
Speaker 8: While all that's going on, You got two other subjects
Speaker 8: in the corner, you know.
Speaker 3: One they got Matt Tinsent.
Speaker 8: We don't have time to be all this nonsense out
Speaker 8: because he didn't his dad.
Speaker 3: You know, my shirts complied, don't die.
Speaker 8: If he were have complied, if you could fitting all
Speaker 8: met kimb or whatever whatever the hell he had his system,
Speaker 8: then you would be to be life to day, simple
Speaker 8: as day. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like Greg just said, they.
Speaker 8: Wouldn't got the clown to give them the answer that
Speaker 8: they wanted, which was to target this cop. And most
Speaker 8: of this nonsense is the same thing. They need to
Speaker 8: get charged on all these prosecutes. First they got drive
Speaker 8: in this community PRIP. But these are discrimination tactics. They
Speaker 8: messing around with people because they're white police officers or
Speaker 8: law enforcement offices, I'm saying today because a white police
Speaker 8: officer had that justified shooting, and they didn't want this
Speaker 8: black law.
Speaker 3: Enforcement expert to tell the truth.
Speaker 8: So when I told them I wasn't I was gonna
Speaker 8: tell you when I wasn't gonna be lines, they say, well,
Speaker 8: you don't need to be a law enforcem bass anyway.
Speaker 3: But that's still not gonna stop me.
Speaker 8: But that's that's not just Philadelphia, it's not just New Mexico.
Speaker 8: It's not just Massachusetts. You can go to any state
Speaker 8: with any of these progressors or these idiots who run
Speaker 8: into town, and you're gonna get the same nonsense. You know,
Speaker 8: we've had Liz Counton on here, We've had we've had
Speaker 8: them all and it's the same story time and time again.
Speaker 8: And another thing I noticed was its interesting is y'all
Speaker 8: get some relativity to say you got so many sep
Speaker 8: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: But this this stuff gotta stop.
Speaker 8: And on the way it stops is if you lock
Speaker 8: up rachel rons, you lock up you know they got
Speaker 8: they need to be charged with crimes and all this
Speaker 8: stuff that oh well they were No, you wasn't acting
Speaker 8: your prosecratory or function you wasn't what you did was
Speaker 8: you committed a crime? And if I committed crime, I
Speaker 8: just got to be prosecuted. You committed crime, You're going
Speaker 8: to be prosecuted. They committed crimes. And the fact that
Speaker 8: you're just some but I'm the US attorney or I'm
Speaker 8: at this and I'm a that. No, or I'm some professor. Professor,
Speaker 8: God don't understanding lot or he didn't know what the
Speaker 8: hell he was talking about. That's like Greg just said,
Speaker 8: if you don't, if you don't do what we do,
Speaker 8: you're not gonna know one point.
Speaker 3: Because that's on the average.
Speaker 8: There's time you got and I didn't no time to
Speaker 8: be sitting back saying well, pardon me or excuse me.
Speaker 3: Your brothers are just blown out. Yeah, the judge.
Speaker 5: In the court, you got to build your bona fees
Speaker 5: to come into court. The judge has to you have
Speaker 5: to lay out your subject matter expert. You know, he
Speaker 5: has to have bona fees. How did the judge even
Speaker 5: allow that? I mean, the guy never walked a beat
Speaker 5: in the day of his life. He never did any
Speaker 5: law enforcement functions from what I read about him.
Speaker 6: So I think he was he worked as a like
Speaker 6: he worked in the courts. He never was on the street.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if he was like a
Speaker 6: bailiff or something. He claimed to be a law enforcement officer,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a consultants or something.
Speaker 6: No, Supposedly, he like would escort prisoners in and out
Speaker 6: of the court, that's all he did. That's what he
Speaker 6: said at the at the time. But he was never
Speaker 6: out on the street. He never had to pull his gun.
Speaker 6: He never had to.
Speaker 2: They didn't even have to.
Speaker 3: There's that then, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: We have something in common too with our use of
Speaker 4: force expert was someone from the department who is the
Speaker 4: department training person, and.
Speaker 2: We all got trained.
Speaker 4: I joked when we left court, I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 4: could now use a baton. It was like this big
Speaker 4: theatrical thing on how heavy it is whipping it out.
Speaker 4: And but our use of force expert for it was
Speaker 4: from Dave's department, said that he has reviewed things exactly
Speaker 4: like Dave did. So he's when he was testified, like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is exactly what Dave did. He would tell the officer,
Speaker 4: put away your report, just tell me what happened, walk
Speaker 4: me through it. Without looking at the report. Let's look
Speaker 4: at the video like what happened, and that's exactly what
Speaker 4: Dave did, and right before trial. I believe it was
Speaker 4: the Barnes versus Felix was a Spreme Court decision that
Speaker 4: I would should have helped.
Speaker 2: Us and should have been mentioned by the I believe.
Speaker 4: The a U s A that the moment of threat
Speaker 4: and the totality of circumstances and how you have to
Speaker 4: take everything in to understand, you know, why an officer
Speaker 4: might do what they do.
Speaker 2: I might be quoting that wrong because I am not
Speaker 2: a law enforcement in person, but that decision should have
Speaker 2: that helped Dave.
Speaker 4: But the use of force expert didn't know anything about it,
Speaker 4: and I believe they need to go through a screening
Speaker 4: prior to becoming an expert.
Speaker 8: Questions you know, if I had three days on the street,
Speaker 8: yeah I wore badge and I had a gun, and
Speaker 8: I can go to courtroom and say, well, yeah, I'm
Speaker 8: an expert. The judge gonna say, Officer Jacobs, you only
Speaker 8: got three days on the damn street. You're not an expert.
Speaker 8: You know those questions. It seems like they're all in
Speaker 8: on this, darn fixed. There's no we just had the
Speaker 8: case recently in Philadelphia a cop got convicted. You made
Speaker 8: an expert out of someone who didn't know what the
Speaker 8: honey was doing.
Speaker 3: You know, you you lady, You just described an administrative.
Speaker 8: Assistant somebody somebody, and the judges lied him to be
Speaker 8: an expert.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: Same with you, Jim. I mean the judge they have
Speaker 8: a duty to you know, to to balance. It's the
Speaker 8: scales of justice. And when you sit back and you
Speaker 8: let somebody who is it brings your teeth now could
Speaker 8: tell you what I could do in one point six
Speaker 8: seconds on the street, you know, and it was longer
Speaker 8: than that, or what I can do when someone brings
Speaker 8: me in something that's obviously something's wrong with this, and
Speaker 8: I believe Dave was trying to fix it.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Before he didn't want it to go all the way here.
Speaker 8: But in this game, you noticed what your husband was
Speaker 8: trying to do.
Speaker 3: If you're in this.
Speaker 8: Game, you knew what Brad was doing. When you're not
Speaker 8: in this game, you don't know what the hell is
Speaker 8: going on. You get decisions like this, These these are
Speaker 8: criminal acts. I don't care about this politically motivated nonsense
Speaker 8: because just because your politician don't give you reasonable walk
Speaker 8: down street, punch me in my damn face. You can't
Speaker 8: do that, because I'm shoot you will punch you back.
Speaker 5: Jennifer, you did a plastic thing that we all had
Speaker 5: to learn, was you just cited case law. You sayed
Speaker 5: a caselaw, and then as law enforcement, we hang our
Speaker 5: hats on caselaw. And when both of your husbands went
Speaker 5: through the academy and throughout their training, they had to
Speaker 5: learn to articulate the things that they do based off
Speaker 5: of case law. And I think listen to both of
Speaker 5: your cases. For me, it's very frustrating because that's what
Speaker 5: we learned. We learn from those cases all and what
Speaker 5: these what the judicial system did, was they just throughout
Speaker 5: the model that we we do business by. Unfortunately for
Speaker 5: Sergeant Finnerty, Uh, he's a scapegoat for for for everybody.
Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't do a damn thing except what
Speaker 5: he was supposed to do. And that's that's scary for
Speaker 5: the administrative part of management and law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: The people that actually should be getting punished aren't getting punished.
Speaker 5: They were they're either exonerated.
Speaker 3: Or community It's just it's just.
Speaker 5: Insane insanny of this whole thing for both of these.
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to wrap your kind around the fact
Speaker 1: that well, I think if you look at both of
Speaker 1: these cases, you'd say that that somebody spent some time
Speaker 1: cherry picking cases to prosecute because they wanted to Jake,
Speaker 1: I understand, but I think they cherry picked them for
Speaker 1: political gain.
Speaker 2: It's not that.
Speaker 8: But you shouldn't be allowed to you know, these are
Speaker 8: in not committed crime. You know, if I didn't commit
Speaker 8: a crime, you shouldn't decide to say because what if
Speaker 8: if Darren Jacobs is walking through a white neighborhood and
Speaker 8: because he's in that white neighborhood he gets picked out,
Speaker 8: you say he committed the crime and all these does
Speaker 8: walk to the white neighborhood, that's wrong, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's the same thing.
Speaker 8: You know, you can't you can't swing with discrimination penning them.
Speaker 3: How the held you want to swing it.
Speaker 8: You know everybody's going to run out there and say,
Speaker 8: oh this you had Tyreek Hill flying there. If anybody
Speaker 8: know that football player? Find out what you know that
Speaker 8: the people radio over heating said this guy was drive
Speaker 8: like a maniac. What's the first thing they did? They
Speaker 8: made it a racial issue. And they're going to keep
Speaker 8: it a racial issue until he's dump but on stage
Speaker 8: and said no comprinted here, so then they had to
Speaker 8: squash all that.
Speaker 3: You guys don't get her.
Speaker 8: You know, your husband Jin shouldn't get arrested because some
Speaker 8: black cop did something stupid in the heat of the
Speaker 8: moment on the train and your husband tried to fix it,
Speaker 8: but these idiots didn't want to fix it that night.
Speaker 3: He's an administrative, he's inside. He had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with nothing.
Speaker 8: Le Si, your husband shouldn't have been arrested because some
Speaker 8: black guy hopped up on drugs decided.
Speaker 3: To knock out his partner try to steal his taser.
Speaker 8: You know, when you reach for the gun, Brad, don't
Speaker 8: have to wait till he get the damn gun out
Speaker 8: the host and say, oh I can't get the gun,
Speaker 8: let me get to the tATu or if I can't
Speaker 8: get let me get to his night.
Speaker 3: If he had one on his belt. You don't second
Speaker 3: wait for all.
Speaker 8: Those things to occur and to sit back and say, Okay, well,
Speaker 8: hey we got a white guy here who killed this.
Speaker 1: Black guy here.
Speaker 8: It's politically motivated. Hey we got this white supervis hair
Speaker 8: who's going to get this black that hus that's something
Speaker 8: wrong there, or we can make it racial politically motivated.
Speaker 3: No crime is a crime. Like Grant just said, we
Speaker 3: all go through training and we go case smarter like
Speaker 3: Brady v. Barren.
Speaker 8: You know, can't get in there line, you know, certain
Speaker 8: certain things like that. You know, people always know them,
Speaker 8: mirandom ranks, you know. I'm just giving you some some
Speaker 8: basic stuff that you guys might know. But there's other
Speaker 8: stuff that we're not allowed to do because we're trained
Speaker 8: not to do it. I'm not you can do something,
Speaker 8: you can get away from stuff I can't get away with.
Speaker 8: It's as simple as that. So they shouldn't be able
Speaker 8: to do things either. Your husband shouldn't be in jail.
Speaker 8: He should be crapping and teaching square knocks and sheepshanks
Speaker 8: and things.
Speaker 3: Of that nature. Yeah, that's what shits be going on now.
Speaker 8: I'm still fighting. Your husband shouldn't be worrying about what
Speaker 8: my sin is going to be in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: None of them stuff should be going on. And just
Speaker 8: because Rajul got elected or whatever, I mean, I didn't
Speaker 8: even know how bad the Mexico worlds.
Speaker 3: They sy tell you can't want to show the first
Speaker 3: time I looked, felt like, oh yeah, yeah, you can't
Speaker 3: even the legal people at the border.
Speaker 8: Your your your basically a single mother pretty soon something
Speaker 8: depending on if something happened with your kids and your
Speaker 8: Peacan org.
Speaker 3: This stuff should not be allowed. And I don't care
Speaker 3: who it is, you can't allow it. And when we
Speaker 3: when we start accepting this stuff.
Speaker 8: Ben and Gregman talking about this movie for the last
Speaker 8: few weeks now, I called it Idio crazy. The movie's
Speaker 8: time with Mediocog. That stupid stuff happened. People get dumber
Speaker 8: and dumber and dumber and dumber, and you're warning your
Speaker 8: field with tang and that's what we're on our way too,
Speaker 8: you know. And and stop because I'm and all over
Speaker 8: because this pisses me all because this is how we
Speaker 8: keep getting into all this nasis, because we let these
Speaker 8: people dictate Nasiense and we are we're supposed to accept it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 9: I will have to say that.
Speaker 6: I think people around here are starting to wake up.
Speaker 6: The support that we've received from our community has just
Speaker 6: been amazing. They've been so far. We had this guy,
Speaker 6: he's from Alam Grdo, Ben Luna. He reached out to
Speaker 6: us he's actually doing a documentary on our case and
Speaker 6: it's going to be called a trial by ideology focusing.
Speaker 6: So it's we're really exciting that. I think that he's
Speaker 6: going to release the trailer today actually, so we're excited
Speaker 6: about that. But just the support and you know, our
Speaker 6: police department, our whole community, I think people are starting
Speaker 6: to wake up and realize that, you know, stuff like
Speaker 6: this is happening everywhere, and hopefully, you know, we remember
Speaker 6: to vote right, vote the right people into office so
Speaker 6: this doesn't continue to happen here.
Speaker 3: In New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just incredible. I just find it incredible that both
Speaker 1: of these cases, it's clear that they cherry picked the case.
Speaker 4: In our case, there was another transit police case that
Speaker 4: was in front of the same grand jury as Dave's,
Speaker 4: and they decided not to move forward at the grand
Speaker 4: jury with that once a week feel that day said oh,
Speaker 4: we need to get somebody, so they decided to go
Speaker 4: after Dave's and Dave worked for forty five days after
Speaker 4: this incident, and videos in dispatch or in the headquarters
Speaker 4: self erase between thirty and forty five days, so he
Speaker 4: continued to do his job supervise officers, and once they
Speaker 4: knew that there was no evidence because their videos had
Speaker 4: been erased, they put out.
Speaker 1: Jesus wow.
Speaker 8: You know, another common denominated a lot of this stuff
Speaker 8: you've learned is how evidence miraculously goes missing or gets
Speaker 8: on lad. You know that that's another I don't know
Speaker 8: how it happens, but it seems like it happens in
Speaker 8: all these cases.
Speaker 4: In this State case, they said that they found the
Speaker 4: original police report the day before a trial through a
Speaker 4: computer software update, whereas like another case that they would say,
Speaker 4: oh no, we can get all the old reports, but
Speaker 4: just in days they couldn't, you know, find it, and
Speaker 4: it suddenly appeared. And then after the DA saw the
Speaker 4: or the assistant DA had saw the evidence, the DA
Speaker 4: called and said that we can't move forward charging our
Speaker 4: cry in.
Speaker 6: Just we had a president of the NAACP. She met
Speaker 6: with city council. Well, she spoke at city council six
Speaker 6: months before Brad was charged, and she was saying, you
Speaker 6: know that this is a young black man, he's well connected,
Speaker 6: and you guys pretty much better do something about this.
Speaker 6: Six months before Brad was charged, she spoke to them,
Speaker 6: and I think, you know, maybe she spoke to the
Speaker 6: AG too.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was said.
Speaker 1: What was I don't think there's any question about that.
Speaker 6: So and then it's like six months later they dropped
Speaker 6: charges on us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the US Attorney from Massachusetts, Leo Foley, is
Speaker 4: right now acting. She took over interim while when Rachel
Speaker 4: Rollins had to resign in disgrace. So she hasn't had
Speaker 4: a confirmation hearing yet, so she's going to want to
Speaker 4: be confirmed.
Speaker 2: So she should never have moved forward with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly, Leah Foley. Uh, you know, we've asked
Speaker 1: you to come on repeatedly and explain your decision to
Speaker 1: you know, pursue prosecution if A's already been exonerated. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not and roalds or is. I mean, geez,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're about, other than it's appalling
Speaker 1: that either one of these people would cherry pick cases
Speaker 1: for political purposes. But that's exactly what happened. We've got
Speaker 1: about four minutes left. I just wanted to go through
Speaker 1: these pictures again. If I can, I'll give you an
Speaker 1: idea of you know, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: devastation in these cases, and we can try to mitigate
Speaker 1: some of that by you know, helping fund the uh,
Speaker 1: you know, defense of both of these families, you know.
Speaker 1: So uh again, this is Dave Nardy and Jennifer Yep
Speaker 1: and his dad, Dave, his dad. Yeah, that's awesome. And
Speaker 1: the girls.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we just found out that are the criminal,
Speaker 2: not the criminal. Sorry.
Speaker 4: The appeal lawyer that we need to hire because we
Speaker 4: need the best is going to cost one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars. So yes, And the girls don't know
Speaker 4: about sentencing. They know about the results of the trial,
Speaker 4: but they do not know about sentencing. And there are
Speaker 4: no federal try There are no federal prisons in Massachusetts
Speaker 4: besides Devin's, which is a medical one, so if he
Speaker 4: does have to serve time, he will not be in Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that just that breaks my heart because you know,
Speaker 6: I had to come home and tell our boys, you know,
Speaker 6: Daddy's not coming home. So I know, I know exactly
Speaker 6: what feeling right now. It's it's so hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know the important I mean, they're
Speaker 1: really important thing. It's devastating you guys, but I mean
Speaker 1: the big picture, it's devastating to your children. I mean,
Speaker 1: do these guys does Leah Foley and rout or As
Speaker 1: when they cherry pick cases for political purposes, do they
Speaker 1: realize how much damage is being done to the young
Speaker 1: people involved.
Speaker 6: They don't.
Speaker 2: They don't care that they're just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, you know, people should understand that this
Speaker 1: isn't a circumstance where it's only affecting one person, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, uh uh Bill, can we just show that
Speaker 1: pipe Eder thing one more time that people can donate
Speaker 1: on pipe Eder writ mm hmm okay, and I'm bringing
Speaker 1: up to uh if we can just show there's Day
Speaker 1: Infinity and Officer Brad Lune for Luncherd, both of whom
Speaker 1: have a very strong young ladies, you know, fighting for
Speaker 1: them and supporting them, and it's just incredible. You two
Speaker 1: ladies are incredible.
Speaker 2: Thank you and very much.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. So we'd love to have you back to
Speaker 1: let us know what the update is. Hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: people will regain sense of their their sense of moral
Speaker 1: character and moral compasses and realize that this is wrong.
Speaker 1: Both of these cases are wrong. So you know, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time to speak with us today. Okay,
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jim, exactly exactly. Okay, So you just heard
Speaker 1: from Lacy Lunsford, and interestingly enough, this is on the
Speaker 1: horizon a trial by ideology. It's a there's a trailer
Speaker 1: out for it now and we've we put it on
Speaker 1: our ex account. But it's coming and it should be
Speaker 1: excuse my friendship, it should be an ass kicker trial
Speaker 1: by ideology in regard to the new Mexico Attorney General
Speaker 1: Raoul Torres, who is a Black Lives Matter guy, and incidentally,
Speaker 1: the subject in that case was a Black Lives Matter supporter.
Speaker 1: So there's something to look forward to you. I'd really
Speaker 1: like to see that. The trailer is a kicking ass
Speaker 1: and is something to look forward to. Finally some truth,
Speaker 1: you know. So, so we've got Jake back and uh
Speaker 1: Greg back. We're going to go to break here in
Speaker 1: a few minutes, and uh we'll go through the old
Speaker 1: whole spiel. But we've got a a special guest for
Speaker 1: the next hour.
Speaker 3: It's a.
Speaker 1: CEO Glenn Glenn Forwardy, not the singer but or the
Speaker 1: uh Forwardy is what who eagles?
Speaker 3: No clear?
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, boy, was way off on that. Uh Jake,
Speaker 1: you're muted. Can we check your.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm loud and clear, John, Yeah, oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 8: Bill.
Speaker 3: What have we got for?
Speaker 1: Do we have one more time left before the break
Speaker 1: or not? Okay, Uh, we'll be We'll see you on
Speaker 1: the other side of this hardbreak. Okay, so we're back. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me just tell you we've got We've got Detective
Speaker 1: Jake Jacobs from Philadelphia on the side and now involves
Speaker 1: Shooney unit. We've got our correspondent from Tennessee, veteran NCIA
Speaker 1: special agent Greg Highlands. Damn, you guys have some serious mountains.
Speaker 1: That's right, snow covered mountains in Tennessee, right, that's right, yep.
Speaker 1: Are there any cows in the background?
Speaker 3: That's Geese.
Speaker 5: That's actually Mount Hermann m in the borders Israel, Syria
Speaker 5: and Lebanon. Oh shit, shit, I think that's about nine
Speaker 5: thousand feet above sea level.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Hey, so we're our special guest, Glenn Aflbrety is honest,
Speaker 1: way I think so. But I wanted to reiterate the
Speaker 1: dis is on its way, the trial by ideology. The
Speaker 1: trailers out now, So if you get a chance to
Speaker 1: see that you know, please do so, and let's see.
Speaker 1: I wanted to Greg, can you tell us what's going
Speaker 1: on here?
Speaker 5: That was this past weekend. I went and did a
Speaker 5: course in North Carolina. It was a you know, krishnikoff
Speaker 5: platform specific So we did sixteen hours of shooting. We
Speaker 5: ran about a thousand rounds through the platform and it
Speaker 5: was some kick ass fun and it looks like it
Speaker 5: god in the second day. So that picture there, I'm
Speaker 5: actually soaked for the phone because it rained all day.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we hope to get some video of what
Speaker 1: the hell that's like.
Speaker 5: Right, I think they're gonna they usually do a video
Speaker 5: because at the end of the course you do this,
Speaker 5: it's it's a challenge. You gotta run run this course
Speaker 5: and and engage targets and and they usually videotape that
Speaker 5: they using spice it together with everybody to shot.
Speaker 3: Blue barrels exploding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's run a couple of these things while
Speaker 1: we're waiting for c Line christ. I hope he's okay
Speaker 1: if he shows up, Greg and your driveway, you.
Speaker 3: Know, if you sees that he's not showing up, they would.
Speaker 1: Not yeah, you know, Okay, So I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell you're doing in Tennessee, Greg, But what the
Speaker 1: hell is this a new sport or something?
Speaker 3: H m hm.
Speaker 1: Bear slapping, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Uh, that's a bear ass slapping.
Speaker 1: H bear ass slapping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: You have to be fast to get away.
Speaker 3: And then, uh, I don't think I'm playing that sports.
Speaker 1: What what the hell is going on with the vehicles
Speaker 1: down there?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's explain this christ like capter.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, man, that is amazing. I've been watching
Speaker 5: and put that together since it starts. You know, somehow
Speaker 5: he got a hold of this old I think it's
Speaker 5: called a Kia helicopter from the Vietnam era, and he's
Speaker 5: been He used the Honda frame. We put it on
Speaker 5: the Honda a court frame. It's pretty cool to watch.
Speaker 1: Honda cord to frame.
Speaker 3: H Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's awesome looking. He should turn it into
Speaker 1: Chitty Chitty bang bang. It doesn't look very comfortable though.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look very comfortable. Okay, so we already showed
Speaker 1: We showed you Greg in action in North Carolina over
Speaker 1: the weekend, right right, so, and hope to get video
Speaker 1: for that next week so you have a better idea
Speaker 1: of what the hell that entails, But in the interim,
Speaker 1: let's watch this.
Speaker 3: Freaking huge.
Speaker 10: Armed citizens stop forty eight percent of all criminal shooters
Speaker 10: last year, and the FBI was just caught massively lying.
Speaker 2: About those numbers.
Speaker 10: In their public reports they recorded, get this, none of them,
Speaker 10: zero percent. Now, you and I and everyone else have
Speaker 10: seen those local heroes on social media, but rarely do
Speaker 10: we ever see these stories in mainstream media.
Speaker 2: Well, the script is about to flip.
Speaker 10: Because a new study by the Crime Prevention Research Center
Speaker 10: reveals that armed civilians stopped over one third of active
Speaker 10: criminal shooters between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty four, nearly
Speaker 10: ten times higher than FBI's reported three point seven percent average,
Speaker 10: and again with even more Americans getting armed post twenty
Speaker 10: twenty Just last year alone, in twenty twenty four, civilians
Speaker 10: stopped half of all criminal shooters. Yet, as I just stated,
Speaker 10: the FBI recorded zero of them.
Speaker 2: You might be asking how is this possible? While while
Speaker 2: digging for the study.
Speaker 10: Researchers found the police were often falsely credited instead of
Speaker 10: the armed civilian, which is a recording pattern that clearly
Speaker 10: increased over the last ten years.
Speaker 2: Now, this BECs the question why would they work so
Speaker 2: hard to.
Speaker 10: Hide the significant benefits of an armed public.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Oh my god. Let's uh, let's see how
Speaker 1: Netflix explains to you how you can money launder before
Speaker 1: we get to Glenn. We got Glenn in the on backstage.
Speaker 1: But let's uh, let's get an explanation from Netflix about
Speaker 1: money laundering. What would you do with your money?
Speaker 9: I cleaned it? Okay, money laundering?
Speaker 8: One on one.
Speaker 7: You come across a suitcase at five million bucks in it?
Speaker 3: What would you buy?
Speaker 7: A yacht, a mansion, a sports car. Sorry, the irs
Speaker 7: won't let you buy anything of value with it. That
Speaker 7: money into the banking system. But here's the problem. That
Speaker 7: dirty muddy, it's too clean, looks like it just came
Speaker 7: out of a bank phone. You got to age it up,
Speaker 7: crumple it, drag it through the dirt, run it over
Speaker 7: with your car, anything to make it look like it's
Speaker 7: in around the block. Next, you need a cash business,
Speaker 7: something pleasant and joyful with the books that are easily manipulated.
Speaker 7: You no credit card or seats, etc. He makes the
Speaker 7: five million with the cash from a joyful business. That
Speaker 7: mixture goes from an American bank to a bank from
Speaker 7: any country that doesn't have to listen to the irs.
Speaker 1: Then he goes into a.
Speaker 7: Standard checking account and willa clean. It's as legitiman as
Speaker 7: anybody else's.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you might want to take notes there, you right,
Speaker 1: if you're behind a you know, Brinks truck and.
Speaker 3: You know, you can always ask ihon omar.
Speaker 1: Yes. Correct. Hey, so so we have Glenn back Glenn now, right,
Speaker 1: so Bill, can you bring Glenn up?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 1: Guys, it looks like the leaves are falling already over.
Speaker 9: And it's just on my walnut tree. I'm probably gonna
Speaker 9: have to cut that thing at least halfway down because
Speaker 9: it's an old tree and it's real high, and for
Speaker 9: some reason, it's been dropping in the leaves for about
Speaker 9: the past month.
Speaker 3: So watch off with the wolf spiders.
Speaker 9: Yeah, my hands are okay, Now.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get your guys take on on this.
Speaker 1: If you could just listen to this for sixteen seconds.
Speaker 10: Rather than deport all of the illegals, what they should
Speaker 10: do is they should offer them a deal where if
Speaker 10: they hunt down five child predators and then they can
Speaker 10: get their papers.
Speaker 5: Right and then and then we call the program alien
Speaker 5: versus pro.
Speaker 1: So do you think that would fly.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, well I think our government that would be
Speaker 5: worried about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I love the idea though, you know, put him on
Speaker 9: notice and make him sweat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's uh, Glenn, you were at the gala
Speaker 1: that we talked about before, but I wanted to we
Speaker 1: have a picture of of you there with a distinguished
Speaker 1: doctor and a distinguished pianist.
Speaker 9: Right, Oh yeah, a Chloe Castillo event. Yes, that's Peter
Speaker 9: Vamos and his ex wife Victoria Vamos and but she's
Speaker 9: his manager as well, And that's the three of us
Speaker 9: together at that event.
Speaker 1: Now, she's a esteemed doctor and he's a concert pianist, right.
Speaker 9: And the composer he was Sean Connery's movie composer as well. Wow,
Speaker 9: no kidding, yeah, wow. A great success story of someone
Speaker 9: who came from communism to America. He was from Hungary,
Speaker 9: came to America, worked his career, I guess, and managed
Speaker 9: to realize that America is a better place than Hungary
Speaker 9: and probably kind of like that. Maybe he had he
Speaker 9: lived through that story of you remember Robin Williams when
Speaker 9: he played the Russian guy who defected and worked at
Speaker 9: McDonald's and he's like come back and mixson. You know, well,
Speaker 9: he probably had a story similar to that, you know.
Speaker 9: And he's a really great guy and I've been trying
Speaker 9: to help him out as well.
Speaker 8: Wow, a tale of two Hungarian Jews won him. Who
Speaker 8: loves America? Any other one, George Laurel, who's trying to
Speaker 8: destroy it?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Jake. But let's get one thing straight.
Speaker 9: Soros didn't love Communism. George Soros was a full fledged Nazi.
Speaker 9: He actually was a member of their Vermont as an
Speaker 9: aide and assisted in facilitating all of his fellow Jews
Speaker 9: right into the gas chamber. And I believe he was
Speaker 9: in Budapest and he was awarded by them. And the
Speaker 9: man is outright scum of the earth, but yet he
Speaker 9: wants to promote He's used his money to create his
Speaker 9: Open Societies Foundation and all this other crap, and practically
Speaker 9: bankrupted the Bank of England, all because of an election
Speaker 9: somewhere in like Thailand that might have leaned Republican. He
Speaker 9: drew so much money out of the Bank of England
Speaker 9: in one day that it almost collapsed their entire economy,
Speaker 9: and all for perpetuating more of this liberalism, which is
Speaker 9: what the liberals and the Democrats are the Nazis, Communists, Democrats,
Speaker 9: they're all leftists. And you know, this man is evil
Speaker 9: on earth, he really is.
Speaker 1: How did he.
Speaker 7: Know?
Speaker 1: I was talking to our company CEO actually much like yourself,
Speaker 1: only it was about four years ago, and he didn't
Speaker 1: have the slightest idea how Zora's affected things. And then
Speaker 1: he picked up on that. We talked about it, and
Speaker 1: he picked up on that, and you know, realized he
Speaker 1: was a giant threat. But my question is, do you
Speaker 1: know how he got his money to begin with?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he It was called currency manipulation, which I actually
Speaker 9: did as a kid myself. Well, I mean I just
Speaker 9: did it on a penny scale. I mean I was
Speaker 9: making only about two hundred and seventy five bucks a
Speaker 9: week working in the mailroom at this company called Institutional Investor,
Speaker 9: and I you know, I went over to the Bank
Speaker 9: of Ireland around the corner on Fifth Avenue and fifty
Speaker 9: first and I was like, if I cashed in this,
Speaker 9: how many you know, Irish pounds do I get back?
Speaker 9: And then I would go and check the newspaper next
Speaker 9: day would go up like maybe ten cents. So now
Speaker 9: I would take that and recash it, you know, the
Speaker 9: Irish pounds back to US dollars, and I might have
Speaker 9: made ten bucks. Well on his scale, he was doing
Speaker 9: it in millions, So you know what I made ten bucks,
Speaker 9: he was making ten million. And that's how he got rich.
Speaker 9: He started small and worked his way up.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to run something by you guys before
Speaker 1: we got to get into the technology aspect of things. Bill, Bill,
Speaker 1: do we have the the website? Can you show that
Speaker 1: Muller announces Parko diagnosis?
Speaker 9: How convenient?
Speaker 1: Will not testify in Epstein investigation? Sounds like horseshooting sour
Speaker 1: crowd to me, unbelievable. Well, it's very believable for him.
Speaker 9: Well, he's already retarded to begin with, so now he's
Speaker 9: just basically proven that he's a vegetable and a brain.
Speaker 1: I can't ye how many more people are gonna develop
Speaker 1: Parkinson's or dementia?
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, it's a convenient excuse as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: We can send in the Alcatrash, they can get all
Speaker 3: their medical attention there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, that would be a great place for him.
Speaker 1: What alligator Alcatraz?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not a real one? It's hard. It's hard
Speaker 3: as one through great Whites with Parkinson's.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Hey, So I just wanted to mention
Speaker 1: this and then we'll move to uh technology. But we
Speaker 1: got a message from Glen. You were familiar with this
Speaker 1: because you were backstage when we when we showed this video,
Speaker 1: and and you were with us when we talked about
Speaker 1: Michael White.
Speaker 9: Oh that little faggot boy who's yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Gotta So we got a message from him yesterday, right, Jake.
Speaker 1: I think it's because I sent it to you guys yesterday.
Speaker 1: We got a message from him yesterday, and this is it.
Speaker 1: Tell Jake to contact me personally. Since he seems to
Speaker 1: be the ring leader. I'm not concerned with anyone else's perspective.
Speaker 1: He's the one who keeps extending the invite, so I
Speaker 1: want to speak with him.
Speaker 8: So, Jake, you want to once again, once again, Mike,
Speaker 8: I'll extend the invite on behalf of search more. You
Speaker 8: know you don't have to send private messages. You know
Speaker 8: we don't need direct messages.
Speaker 3: Come on out. I'll tell you my part. You can
Speaker 3: tell me your part, and.
Speaker 8: You can tell me how you and Larry manipulated the
Speaker 8: court system to allow a murderer to go free, which
Speaker 8: I believe you are. I know all the participants, Michael,
Speaker 8: I know how you Wing. I couldn't remember her name
Speaker 8: last week. Care Brad Grey. You know who's a former
Speaker 8: public defender who's a close associate of Larry Cransman. I
Speaker 8: know her husband. Know all of them, so I know
Speaker 8: the DA who had the case. I know the form
Speaker 8: of DA who was taking off the case. So, Mike,
Speaker 8: I don't want to give you all the questions, which
Speaker 8: it seems as though you want in advance. You want
Speaker 8: to open book tests, Come on a show, we'll have
Speaker 8: a dialogue. You can tell me what you want to say.
Speaker 8: I can tell you what my thoughts are, and we
Speaker 8: get it all out and let everybody see. But you
Speaker 8: know you can't because Uncle Larry will tell you that
Speaker 8: you will incriminate him, and maybe both of y'all should
Speaker 8: be in jail for twenty to forty. Well, I think
Speaker 8: he should be in jail longer, you know, because you
Speaker 8: were just a puppet. You could say, f Larry all
Speaker 8: you want. You were a puppet. Larry used you to
Speaker 8: sol racial discord or to whatever you wanted to do.
Speaker 8: And we're going to get into that a little bit
Speaker 8: more next week, hopefully on the show next week. Mike, well,
Speaker 8: you can come on right now. We can send you
Speaker 8: a link right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, interestingly enough, it appears as if he's
Speaker 1: a reviewed each one of our social media accounts on
Speaker 1: a varietyage in front of Well, maybe he's preparing to
Speaker 1: come on. That's great, yes, waybe, that's his open book test.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, the question is why is he on social media?
Speaker 9: Because he cares about what people think about him. He
Speaker 9: cares about what people He wants people to think that
Speaker 9: he's important, and he wants people to know his thoughts
Speaker 9: and his feelings so he can maybe I don't know
Speaker 9: Sway his boyfriend and guckly, you fuck me up the
Speaker 9: ass now, I mean, seriously, that's about the only reason
Speaker 9: you're on social media. I guess why I don't give
Speaker 9: a ship what his feelings are or what his opinion
Speaker 9: is to me, just why I'm not on social media.
Speaker 9: So that's a good way to compare his now and
Speaker 9: you that he doesn't care about greg or John's opinion
Speaker 9: of as well. All he cares about is Jake. Well,
Speaker 9: guess what, come on the show, have a conversation with Jake.
Speaker 9: I'll even keep my mouth shut even though I'm probably
Speaker 9: gonna be doing this to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you hit the nail on the head shot.
Speaker 3: I'm not his boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Just for the rest, you hit the nail on the
Speaker 1: head because some of his posts are about his feelings.
Speaker 3: Well, that was the whole thing that him and Larry did.
Speaker 8: They wanted to mold this troubled youth and the fact
Speaker 8: that you're a trouble black youth. Well, I was a
Speaker 8: trouble black one, and I guarantee you I walked through
Speaker 8: a little bit of a more treacherous gauntlet coming up than.
Speaker 3: This guy did.
Speaker 8: And that doesn't allow me to go to seventeenth for
Speaker 8: Chancellor and plunge a knife in someone's back.
Speaker 3: I did it because I was a trouble black youth.
Speaker 8: So, Mike, one trouble black youth to another black youth
Speaker 8: who's hiding up behind being trouble.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Yeah.
Speaker 9: Welcome, man about it. Man up improved that you're courageous
Speaker 9: and your competent and so smart that you can out
Speaker 9: think Jake. There's a good challenge for you.
Speaker 3: Ask Larry. Ask Larry if he can ask Larry, Larry,
Speaker 3: Larry don't.
Speaker 8: Want to answer my questions, and he's high behind million
Speaker 8: dollar lawyers because.
Speaker 3: He's a coward, just like your coward.
Speaker 8: We'll play this clip and you and Larry can both
Speaker 8: come on, and John, Greg and Glenn will stand in
Speaker 8: the background and I'll debate both you and Larry at
Speaker 8: the same time to tear apart your conspiracies.
Speaker 1: Face Jake, do we want to run this clip?
Speaker 8: We can run that just that's the beginning clip of
Speaker 8: his propaganda thing that we'll play a little bit more,
Speaker 8: maybe next week, but we'll just give the audience.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, yes, it might be two minutes. Okay, so
Speaker 3: that's about one.
Speaker 11: We have an emergency. We have at the victim stuff
Speaker 11: They hand a black West Tanco Street lads, I think
Speaker 11: he says the healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked at Rouge night club.
Speaker 1: I got a guy just stab a Rouge barn.
Speaker 2: A guy just stabs on my patron.
Speaker 9: Okay, we wended down one new it than one Hello
Speaker 9: A right, good weird?
Speaker 11: Okay, Kevin Steven Tancelor And what happened?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 3: A guy was dabbing his back. Did you see the
Speaker 3: work hotel?
Speaker 9: The work hot tell all right, did you all right,
Speaker 9: let's the calm down.
Speaker 11: Did you get it happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have the park.
Speaker 11: What you're gonna get you have a descriptive of it? Well,
Speaker 11: the black man wearing a white T shirt. He's tall,
Speaker 11: blood shorts, he has a black backpack. Last scene being
Speaker 11: westbron and Walna than northbound twenty and Puff's going into
Speaker 11: a writtenhouse Parks Washington Knife.
Speaker 12: I've been through some real hard times where I grew
Speaker 12: up in one of the worst neighborhoods in New York.
Speaker 12: But this first time in my life here in Philadelphia
Speaker 12: that I actually get nervous now in the city that
Speaker 12: I still watch myself more aware.
Speaker 1: It's so violent.
Speaker 12: It's just shame because this city is beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man, It's a beautiful city and you look around it's
Speaker 1: like wow.
Speaker 9: But we need to change.
Speaker 1: There's no question we need to change in the city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for sure. Hey.
Speaker 8: So you know, you know John Blairs used to be
Speaker 8: a weather uh a weather guy here. I noticed that
Speaker 8: he used to be like, uh, he was very he
Speaker 8: was a media personality as a weather guy. He just
Speaker 8: left Philly and he just moved. I guess now, you
Speaker 8: guys to West Palm Beach because of the danger in
Speaker 8: Ladd craftsman.
Speaker 1: H M, So, I mean you know after the klip
Speaker 1: we showed last week where you've got White running away
Speaker 1: from the scene, if he was defending himself, would he
Speaker 1: run away from the scene.
Speaker 9: I mean, well, I would want.
Speaker 7: To know that.
Speaker 8: The legal Yeah, the legal thing is flight and prosecute
Speaker 8: to tell you this flight is consciousness of guilt. He
Speaker 8: talked to my guys at homicide. He didn't want to
Speaker 8: give up his story. It wasn't to him that Larry
Speaker 8: Larry's office, his public defenders molded their story that he
Speaker 8: gave a profit in a matter that you would never
Speaker 8: give a prophet for. I wasn't looking for nobody else.
Speaker 8: There was no need for a profit, so he gave
Speaker 8: him a profer. They molded the story. They made the
Speaker 8: victim the I don't know the villain, so to speak.
Speaker 8: And that was all Larry, the current prosecutor, the actual
Speaker 8: homicide prosecutor, was working with homicide detectives. Larry kicked them out.
Speaker 8: He wouldn't even allow him to send it on the
Speaker 8: profit because that DA charged first degree murder, which is
Speaker 8: what it was. Everyone he plunged the knife in the
Speaker 8: back of this guy's back. Once that DA saw the video,
Speaker 8: he charged them with first degree murder. So Y's first
Speaker 8: bs was to drop it to third to try to
Speaker 8: give him twenty to forty. And you could do that
Speaker 8: after the profit if you're gonna say, hey, let us
Speaker 8: hear your side and will let you plead guilty to
Speaker 8: the twenty to forty and not give you the life
Speaker 8: or death where no one gets death for the twenty
Speaker 8: to forty on the prophet but not when Larry did.
Speaker 8: Then he took it one step further. He took it
Speaker 8: down to voluntary manslaughter.
Speaker 3: This guy is a criminal.
Speaker 9: I keep telling everybody this lawyer and I know that's
Speaker 9: not involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 5: Yes, my understanding. So my knowledge of this case is
Speaker 5: from this show. And I watched that documentary last week
Speaker 5: and one of the things that came across to me
Speaker 5: was that White was claiming that he was doing self defense. However,
Speaker 5: he had the opportunity to retreat at any moment. He
Speaker 5: could have walked away from the situation, and he pulled
Speaker 5: the knife that he had in his pack. But you know,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that the victim did not have any weapon
Speaker 5: in his hand again, Sean, Sean did not have a weapon,
Speaker 5: and then he stabs the guy in the fucking back.
Speaker 5: And then this profer session that you mentioned. Krasner never
Speaker 5: took uh an adversarial role at all. It was more
Speaker 5: of a social work question answer time that he was
Speaker 5: like a social worker.
Speaker 3: Uh never ever.
Speaker 5: Address the elements of the crime. It's just what a
Speaker 5: what a fucking mess that is.
Speaker 3: Well, he never even had he never had to insert
Speaker 3: himself in the situation.
Speaker 8: He was delivering food. There was other males arguing about
Speaker 8: some parking situation. He could have kept on delivering the popeyes. Yes, see,
Speaker 8: a lot of this stuff I was talking about.
Speaker 9: John.
Speaker 5: We're private citizens now, and you know I I I
Speaker 5: I voluntarily took the concealed weapons of course here in
Speaker 5: the state, and they wanted to make sure that we
Speaker 5: knew that when you're confronted with the situation, if you
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to walk away, you better walk away.
Speaker 5: So a knife is no different than than a handgun.
Speaker 5: In Pennsylvania, being as communistic as they are in the
Speaker 5: gun laws, clearly he should have walked away. And as
Speaker 5: much of an anti gunner the Krasner is in Philadelphia
Speaker 5: is how can you let that slide?
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you don't know what's going on in London.
Speaker 5: He works but has a huge knife problem.
Speaker 3: He says that they took the knife out to have
Speaker 3: him back up.
Speaker 8: That gives you an opportunity if you had enough time
Speaker 8: to reach in your backpack, take the knife out.
Speaker 3: And say, you know, he didn't want you know, he
Speaker 3: didn't want Sean to approach him. You could have just
Speaker 3: turned around. Sean wasn't thinking about you?
Speaker 2: Who the hell are you?
Speaker 8: What if you got a gun or if you got
Speaker 8: a weapon like they haven't understabbing everyone the hell up?
Speaker 3: Now? You want to be tough guy?
Speaker 8: Would you have been tough guy if all you had
Speaker 8: was a bag of Popeyes and a bunch of six
Speaker 8: foot one two three four guys who had a couple
Speaker 8: of no, you would have kept on going.
Speaker 3: So he's full of crap.
Speaker 8: But maybe he got a different explanation than we're talking about,
Speaker 8: you know, Greg, Maybe you're wrong, Maybe John's wrong, Maybe
Speaker 8: he's Glenn wrong, maybe I'm wrong, And you know, maybe
Speaker 8: Fran who was interrogating them and I think that was
Speaker 8: oh god, I forgot his name.
Speaker 3: I know both.
Speaker 8: Detectives I know, I know lou I know lou Toomlo.
Speaker 8: You know he was a homicide a DA he charged
Speaker 8: first degree murder. I know that Ada, who they brought
Speaker 8: in to replace Louke.
Speaker 3: She already told.
Speaker 8: Everyone that Crash No manipulated her and she couldn't say
Speaker 8: certain things she wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 3: Crasher told us she could not prosecute Michael White, and
Speaker 3: her last name begins with D. I'm gonna put her
Speaker 3: out there right now, but don't worry.
Speaker 8: Hopefully there will be a court date and you'll be
Speaker 8: testifying in front of a federal judge and a federal
Speaker 8: jewelry to show.
Speaker 3: How ran that just an attorney's office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Okay, in a small situation.
Speaker 9: Honestly, let me just cut in on this sounds pretty
Speaker 9: political if you ask me, like he was looking for
Speaker 9: brownie points for maybe I don't know, the black community
Speaker 9: that they'll reelect him or something like that or whatever.
Speaker 9: He'll get some support that way, because for you to
Speaker 9: just go and reach into a backpack and then plunging
Speaker 9: into the back of somebody that you had to consciously
Speaker 9: do and then if you don't forget that. He also
Speaker 9: claimed that he blacked out, okay, which is a bullshit
Speaker 9: claim because most people don't unless they've had too much
Speaker 9: alcohol or drugs or something or head injury. And he
Speaker 9: didn't have any of that. So this guy, you know,
Speaker 9: consciously did that. And whether it's a gun, whether it's
Speaker 9: a knife, whether it's a car or an axe, you
Speaker 9: can use I don't know, railroad spike. I've seen people
Speaker 9: die that way. Yeah, it's painful, but anything can be
Speaker 9: used as a weapon, So you can't just you know,
Speaker 9: label guns are bad or this. It's period. The man
Speaker 9: plunged a weapon into another person to intentionally kill them
Speaker 9: because he was emotionally disturbed, he was offended by everything
Speaker 9: and you know, whatever it is, and that's no reason
Speaker 9: to kill somebody.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but what real quick, Glenn, Yeah, Grasmer's colleague, who's
Speaker 8: another defense attorney in this thing, says exactly that. See,
Speaker 8: they get money from the city of His name is
Speaker 8: Michael Cord. He actually said that they did this, and
Speaker 8: Larry did this not because of what happened on that night,
Speaker 8: but because of this poor black youth and all this
Speaker 8: other kind of nonsense. Well, I can investigate someone who
Speaker 8: committed a murder one day I can be investigating him
Speaker 8: and watch him be murdered the very next day. The
Speaker 8: fact that he kills somebody next day has them to
Speaker 8: do he investigate the next murder, each incident is separate
Speaker 8: from himself. So all the nonsense that these prosecutors, this
Speaker 8: Michael Cord is lag kras, who are defense attorneys and
Speaker 8: public defenders masquer rating as advocates, is a bunch of bs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the bottom line is I've been approached by a
Speaker 1: lot of people that saw that clip that we showed
Speaker 1: uh last week, right, and their bottom line is why
Speaker 1: is the guy, if he defended himself, why is he
Speaker 1: running away?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: And it took lou a long time to get that video.
Speaker 8: It took a lot of work to find that video.
Speaker 8: It wasn't a video directly on the incident. That's why
Speaker 8: they had to wait and track down the girl for
Speaker 8: the cell phone video. It was so bad they deleted
Speaker 8: it off of Facebook real quick so that we couldn't
Speaker 8: get it and we had to really go search for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Boy, that's boy, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 9: Plus that video is pretty incriminating, So I mean, of
Speaker 9: course you don't want it. It's like right now, with
Speaker 9: the Epstein thing going on. Where's that one minute of
Speaker 9: video they just found Clinton is slipping into his cell
Speaker 9: to strangle him. You know, well because we know she's
Speaker 9: the one who did it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know we're all very interested in the technology
Speaker 1: aspect that and I just wanted to mentioned this could
Speaker 1: be Glenn owner of olive On Technologies LSE if you're
Speaker 1: it's an eye test. So but uh, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got a very diverse background, and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: show all of it, but uh.
Speaker 9: The toys r us kid, that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I know we were briefly talking
Speaker 1: about stealthing yourself, stealthing.
Speaker 9: Your uh phone, right, oh these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so can you help us understand how we could
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 9: Well, the number one thing is if you have an iPhone,
Speaker 9: throw it in the garbage, I mean, because there's no
Speaker 9: hope for you on that one. They've locked down their code.
Speaker 9: It's like the difference between ASP and PHP, which are
Speaker 9: two different programming languages pretty much essentially the same type.
Speaker 9: But Microsoft owns the licensing to ASP, so you have
Speaker 9: to go through their schools and pay all these fees
Speaker 9: to learn how to use their code. And how to
Speaker 9: hack it and make life better on the computer. Or
Speaker 9: you can do it the open source way, which is PHP,
Speaker 9: and that's basically community driven, community written. Anybody can tap
Speaker 9: into it, which is what little Marky Suckiberg is claiming
Speaker 9: that he knows and that I build things with and
Speaker 9: he had the right to use it because there's no
Speaker 9: licensing on it. So in the case of this, this
Speaker 9: is an Android and if you have an iPhone, throw
Speaker 9: it in the garbage because it's one hundred percent spyware. Yeah,
Speaker 9: and they won't let you in. They won't. They've got
Speaker 9: it so locked down. There are some kids who've hacked
Speaker 9: into it. They even had a contest because I think
Speaker 9: they had to find some information out of it. I forgot.
Speaker 9: I'm going to go back about five years ago. They
Speaker 9: offered them like a million dollars if you can hack it,
Speaker 9: and some kid did, but that's a rare case. And
Speaker 9: what they do is they install tons of bloat wear
Speaker 9: in it. So that's why your batteries drained in about
Speaker 9: four hours and mind draining about four days. As a
Speaker 9: matter of fact, I got seventy four percent on mine
Speaker 9: right now and I haven't charged it since yesterday, and
Speaker 9: that's with phone calls, with texting and everything else. It's
Speaker 9: because there's nothing in this phone that's spying, So yours
Speaker 9: all phones can be tracked by one thing, the battery,
Speaker 9: and the battery will triangulate between three cell towers. So
Speaker 9: you know, I'm in this part of the country right
Speaker 9: now between these three cell towers, but that's within one
Speaker 9: hundred yards, so I could be hiding in the shed,
Speaker 9: or I can hide over the fence and things like that.
Speaker 9: But if you have an iPhone, well I could send
Speaker 9: in a hell fire rocket and blow you to smithereens
Speaker 9: because of that GPS coordinate, you know, so that that
Speaker 9: goes to prove. Now, what it also does is iPhones
Speaker 9: talk to each other, and they talk to this stupid
Speaker 9: computer too. And this thing right now, I only use
Speaker 9: this laptop for you guys and maybe some other junk
Speaker 9: on well I'm you know, traveling, but I hate this
Speaker 9: thing because it's spyware. This camera right now is probably
Speaker 9: trying to pick me up on facial recognition. It's going
Speaker 9: to identify my license, it's going to identify any public
Speaker 9: records where my portrait was taken. So that's why when
Speaker 9: I do things like getting my driver's license taken. I
Speaker 9: crunch my face and drive them crazy. They keep saying
Speaker 9: no expression, yah, go fuck yourself, you know, and stuff
Speaker 9: like that, and then I got to take it again.
Speaker 9: I don't give a shit, you know, And then I
Speaker 9: get my license my way. Same thing with like a
Speaker 9: portrait for your passport or something like that. And they're
Speaker 9: storing all his data and where it's all being sent
Speaker 9: is to Google servers. Now a lot of the young
Speaker 9: generation is not going to notice. And I watched this
Speaker 9: shit evolve years ago. I was all for Google, you know,
Speaker 9: doing what they did. You know, Sergey and Larry had
Speaker 9: a good idea. They went over to uh, whatt's his face?
Speaker 9: Larry the guy with the with the concrete face and
Speaker 9: lots of grease on it. He created Oracle, the CEO
Speaker 9: of Oracle, and asked him, Yeah, he said, could you
Speaker 9: load us some money. We were working on this idea
Speaker 9: to suck up the Internet into you know, and and
Speaker 9: create backups of it. And he gave him like two
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand bucks and it turned into Google
Speaker 9: the company. And I thought it was a cool name
Speaker 9: because I watched that TV show Cosmos when I was
Speaker 9: a kid, and I learned what a yeah, Carl Sagan,
Speaker 9: and I learned what a google plex was, and I
Speaker 9: figured out, oh, I see what they're going to do.
Speaker 9: Take every website, cash it, you know, and everything like that,
Speaker 9: and then then create a directory, which is cool. So
Speaker 9: that was the original plan, but then it involved into wow,
Speaker 9: we can get this, we can steal that, we can
Speaker 9: do this, we can connect it to that. Then the
Speaker 9: cell phones were evolving, and I said, oh shit, here
Speaker 9: comes and sure enough, these cell phones are now talking
Speaker 9: to each other. And do you remember the Melissa virus?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 9: Okay, that was back around two thousand and one, two
Speaker 9: thousand and two, and as a matter of fact, the
Speaker 9: kid lived right near me. He was pissed off about something,
Speaker 9: and he created this thing called the Melissa virus, which
Speaker 9: drilled into your computer and it contacted everybody in your
Speaker 9: email book, your address book, and then emailed the virus
Speaker 9: to them and went to their email book and emailed
Speaker 9: it to them and so on and sover. He's in
Speaker 9: prison for like twenty years after that. But the point
Speaker 9: is they took that code and worked it into Facebook.
Speaker 9: That's why, you guys. When he first came out. Little
Speaker 9: Sucky Bird was competing with a couple of other websites
Speaker 9: and it was down to four and the last two
Speaker 9: Facebook and Friendster. Do you remember friends there? Okay? And
Speaker 9: friends that are lost out because they didn't do what
Speaker 9: he did where he put in the Melissa virus to
Speaker 9: email everybody under the sun to say, you know, hey,
Speaker 9: John just joined Facebook and wants to connected to you.
Speaker 9: Join now and let's talk, and they now love He
Speaker 9: loves you and wants to connect with you and just
Speaker 9: join Facebook. And now Greg did too, and then your
Speaker 9: phone would besides your computer, your phone would start blowing up.
Speaker 9: And then you would say, oh gee, yeah, I haven't
Speaker 9: seen you know, Greg in twenty years, and let me
Speaker 9: contact them and say hi, So now all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: you're now connected, okay. And they would have libraries that
Speaker 9: would contain the IP addresses and things like that of
Speaker 9: each device, each computer, and the Mac address every phone.
Speaker 9: Every computer has a Mac address, okay, And a lot
Speaker 9: of people don't know about that. You think it's all
Speaker 9: about the IP. Some people back then, which they don't
Speaker 9: do too much anymore, had dynamic IP where every five
Speaker 9: minutes your IP address was changing so you could block somebody,
Speaker 9: but they'd only be blocked for about five minutes. Now, comcrap.
Speaker 9: They turned around and said, oh, we're going to make
Speaker 9: this permanent, and they did so. Now it's almost impossible
Speaker 9: to get your IP changed. And they've got you so
Speaker 9: honed in that you know you live at this location
Speaker 9: and so on and so forth. So if you were
Speaker 9: on Facebook and you made a post and called, you know,
Speaker 9: this guy whatever his name is, this Michael White kid
Speaker 9: a faggot, Oh shit quick, you know, let's get facial
Speaker 9: recognition from the DMV because we got it through the
Speaker 9: cameras on the phone and on the device, and let's
Speaker 9: go to his house and start protesting and everything. And
Speaker 9: that's what it's called dosing. And where's is that?
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening in England?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: In steroids? Now on steroids, but it's all being housed
Speaker 9: on these servers on a barge. I'll tell you that
Speaker 9: story too. Google had basically been containing all this information
Speaker 9: on a barge underneath the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fangancisco.
Speaker 9: And what happened was the federal government was like, well,
Speaker 9: wait to second, we want some of this information. We
Speaker 9: want in on this, you've got info we need and
Speaker 9: Larry at that time and I think Sergei both said
Speaker 9: fuck you. They didn't like the government. I think it
Speaker 9: was Bush it was in power at the time. They're like,
Speaker 9: fuck your Republicans, We're not going to help you. So
Speaker 9: the city of I think it was the city or
Speaker 9: the federal government condemned the barge. They had building inspectors
Speaker 9: going and condemn it. Well, they said, you know, okay,
Speaker 9: if that's the game you're going to play, they untied
Speaker 9: the ropes and sailed it twelve miles off the coast
Speaker 9: of San Francisco, and right now that's where it is.
Speaker 9: That's international waters, out of our jurisdiction. It can't be boarded,
Speaker 9: can't be touched, but all your information on your phone
Speaker 9: is still being transmitted right into their service. All by
Speaker 9: at that time, it was like, you know, you needed
Speaker 9: a shorter range. No, no, it doesn't. But it's whether
Speaker 9: what they do with the information that makes it different.
Speaker 9: Somebody's asking if the product offers better security if you
Speaker 9: use starlink or elon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 9: When I had a website, it was just a simple
Speaker 9: website for models and photographers to connect or Even before that,
Speaker 9: I had a bigger website for jobs. People needed a job.
Speaker 9: I was competing with you guys remember Monster dot com?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, all right, Well I lost the battle. I
Speaker 9: was second place to him because he had a monstrous budget,
Speaker 9: financial budget to put on commercials like you don't know, Jack,
Speaker 9: I'm sure you guys might remember that commercial, and they
Speaker 9: buried me. But I came in second to it, and
Speaker 9: eventually I was like, you know what, let me just
Speaker 9: go for a more niche market. So there was an
Speaker 9: upcoming website that was called One Model Place and it
Speaker 9: was doing pretty well, and I said, yeah, I could
Speaker 9: do it this way and it didn't take much coding changes.
Speaker 9: Within about three days, I recoded it and rebranded to
Speaker 9: a new website. I had models and photographers on there
Speaker 9: that just wanted to connect for jobs, and next thing,
Speaker 9: you know, they were you know, I'm realizing that these
Speaker 9: people were putting all this information that they that they
Speaker 9: think I wasn't seen in like private messages as they
Speaker 9: call them now, dms and stuff like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 9: I got everybody's credit card numbers, I've got dates of birds,
Speaker 9: social Security numbers, because like a photographer would be like,
Speaker 9: are you sure you're eighteen? Show me your license, and
Speaker 9: they'd send the picture and next thing, you know, here
Speaker 9: I got her address or where.
Speaker 3: She lives, you know.
Speaker 9: And then all I'd have to do is go online
Speaker 9: using Google and just type in her name, and then
Speaker 9: I find out, well, here's a mother, here's her brother,
Speaker 9: here's a sister, who's a father. The same thing was
Speaker 9: happening with your telephones, so or your cell phones. And
Speaker 9: then when I started doing it for pay where if
Speaker 9: you wanted to upgrade your account, they would put their
Speaker 9: PayPal information their passwords, and I'm like, are you people stupid?
Speaker 9: I had five million people's information that was well beyond
Speaker 9: like I could have been a criminal ten times over.
Speaker 9: But I didn't want to go down that road, so
Speaker 9: I hit the delete button and that's what I did.
Speaker 9: But what sucky Berg did was he kept it. And
Speaker 9: that's why why he's owning half of Hawaii right now,
Speaker 9: because he needs his privacy while he uses you as
Speaker 9: as a commodity. You know, John, your friends with Jake.
Speaker 9: I know it, you know, and I want to know
Speaker 9: what are you two talking about? You know, what do
Speaker 9: you think of me? Jake? You know that's what little
Speaker 9: sucky Berg is doing. And he's selling that data to
Speaker 9: a company that's like, you know, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 9: a dildo company. And I heard that this guy, Michael
Speaker 9: White likes to get fucked up the ass, so I'm down.
Speaker 9: And because Jake said that I'm going to text his
Speaker 9: phone now here, you could buy my new dildo for
Speaker 9: five ninety nine. And that's pretty much what's going on,
Speaker 9: and that's how they're making.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, if you're asking you, Glynn, I've always
Speaker 8: thought that those Obama fools, it did stay Obama that
Speaker 8: Obama got paid from China because it was wild Way
Speaker 8: and CTE that was all those Obama fools and basically
Speaker 8: just explaining and when he was giving them all out
Speaker 8: for free, it was a way to gather more information
Speaker 8: from America.
Speaker 3: Is is that true?
Speaker 9: Well, Barrios stupid took it on steroids because that's how
Speaker 9: he won the presidency. He used online as the process.
Speaker 9: You know, he hired out the dumb punks that were
Speaker 9: all a bunch of like little pink communists and said,
Speaker 9: you know what, I'll give you free shit if you
Speaker 9: help me out online, So they would get on these
Speaker 9: websites at the time, like Facebook and spam every relative
Speaker 9: under the sun saying you better vote for Barry, we
Speaker 9: don't need no more bushes and things like that. And
Speaker 9: John McCain is too old, it's seventy one. I love
Speaker 9: that one because there's such hypocrites because they had no
Speaker 9: problem voting for eighty one year old you know, Joe
Speaker 9: shitty pants. No, they're still keeping your info. Don't believe
Speaker 9: it when they tell you they scrub your info the
Speaker 9: minute you put something on the Internet, it's there forever.
Speaker 9: And if you want to, you know, double check that.
Speaker 9: You can use a site called the Wayback Machine and
Speaker 9: they'll periodically cash a website and when you can, you know,
Speaker 9: you made a post and I said Michael White was
Speaker 9: a fagot back in I don't know, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 9: If they cashed it that day, you could find that
Speaker 9: post in there and then you'll use it against me
Speaker 9: and say, oh, no, you can't be rich and famous.
Speaker 9: Now we need to banish you to the North Pole
Speaker 9: because you said the word faggot, you know, back in
Speaker 9: two thousand and seven. Oh, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 9: And that's what they're doing with it. It's because We
Speaker 9: have a bunch of emotionally disturbed, uneducated, retarded children that
Speaker 9: are now in the position to control these things, and
Speaker 9: they think they're so much smarter, but they're not. Ninety
Speaker 9: nine percent of your coder, maybe ninety seven percent of
Speaker 9: your coders out there are what we called script kitties,
Speaker 9: where if I wrote something, I wrote a script. And
Speaker 9: my kids like to teach me about the fact that
Speaker 9: I might be the pioneer of OnlyFans because with models
Speaker 9: and photographers. Yeah, I'll tell you why. I created this
Speaker 9: one feature that if you're a model and you wanted
Speaker 9: to have a private gallery and make some money, you
Speaker 9: could put your own PayPal info in there for somebody
Speaker 9: else to pay and if you give them access, they
Speaker 9: could see that private gallery. Well, hence that's what OnlyFans became.
Speaker 9: It was very simple. I made it in about twenty
Speaker 9: five minutes, and I wrote the code for it in PHP.
Speaker 9: Literally took me, no joke, twenty five minutes to do this.
Speaker 9: And if a kid got that code, he would copy
Speaker 9: and paste it into his website. And that's what we
Speaker 9: call a script kitty, which is what Sucky Bird really is.
Speaker 9: He doesn't know what the hell he's doing. So that's
Speaker 9: pretty much what we have now is the Internet of people,
Speaker 9: and all of the code that we used to work
Speaker 9: websites would load. I love to give people this example.
Speaker 9: Go visit Yahoo's front page, Go get yourself a coffee,
Speaker 9: take a shit, do something else. Come back later and
Speaker 9: see if it's loaded. You could have the fastest computer
Speaker 9: in the world. But the reason it's not loading is
Speaker 9: because of what I'm just talking about. With everything talking
Speaker 9: to each other, is that every single picture, every single word,
Speaker 9: every single thing is being called up from twenty five
Speaker 9: thousand other servers around the world. And this is how
Speaker 9: the chinks spying on us because they would go and
Speaker 9: pay through an LLC for an advertising company and then
Speaker 9: buy ad space on Yahoo and then all of a sudden, you,
Speaker 9: let's say John visits the page. Now they got your
Speaker 9: IP and know what you're looking at, how long you're
Speaker 9: on there, did you scroll, what were you're reading? They
Speaker 9: access your camera and watch your eyeballs to see are
Speaker 9: you actually reading it and things like that. And even
Speaker 9: if you try to hide things, they got the microphone
Speaker 9: to listen to you too. So if you're reading the
Speaker 9: article and you don't like it, and you go, oh, harumph,
Speaker 9: you know you know.
Speaker 1: Alexis Alexa Alexa.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's similar to like Alexa and Serri. That's just
Speaker 9: basically taking AI and using voice patterns and stuff like
Speaker 9: that and applying it together so that they can judge
Speaker 9: your reactions to things and so on and so forth,
Speaker 9: and they can wipe out the middleman like a human
Speaker 9: that might have a psychology degree to go, well, what
Speaker 9: did John really think of that article when he went harumph,
Speaker 9: you know, so AI did it for you. And now
Speaker 9: they've now taken everything. Hut. This is where we're now
Speaker 9: at in time, is they've taken everything that you and
Speaker 9: I have texted on these stupid little phones, especially the
Speaker 9: eye crap. And if you said, I don't know when
Speaker 9: was San Fancisco, you know, incorporated out of the city,
Speaker 9: and Greg said, I think in sixteen hundred, and Shake said, no,
Speaker 9: it was in nineteen hundred and John said it was
Speaker 9: in eighteen fifty. You argue about it, and you both
Speaker 9: agree it was eighteen fifty. Now that becomes the fact,
Speaker 9: but it's not really the fact. I think it was
Speaker 9: incorporated in like nineteen ten. Okay, But AI will now
Speaker 9: tell every kid that's now going I can't read the book.
Speaker 9: It's too hard. You know, let me ask this stupid
Speaker 9: AI and now it's going to say it was made
Speaker 9: it was incorporated in eighteen fifty. That's why it's wrong
Speaker 9: for use of like history. But if you ask it
Speaker 9: what's two plus two and it tells you four, and
Speaker 9: then we know it's good for mathematics. If you ask,
Speaker 9: you know, what should I put on?
Speaker 3: A boo boo?
Speaker 9: A band aid? Yeah, okay, so medical would work. But
Speaker 9: when it comes to opinion or historical fact that has
Speaker 9: been distorted, then yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1: Totally such a difference. There's such a significant difference between
Speaker 1: Chat GPT and Grock. You know, if you ask him
Speaker 1: the same question, uh, Chet GPT will give you something
Speaker 1: totally different than gray.
Speaker 9: And now they actually have to modify it. Wasn't it
Speaker 9: like Grock about a two or three weeks ago saying
Speaker 9: Hitler was the greatest guy on earth and he was
Speaker 9: our hero and we love them all. Yeah, I mean really,
Speaker 9: So that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: So what's happened If we get a targeted strike of
Speaker 1: this barge that's off.
Speaker 9: The don't worry. They've got redundant servers. They've got redund
Speaker 9: and as a matter of fact, Sucky Berg's building an
Speaker 9: underground doomsday bunker in Hawaii. I guarantee you some of
Speaker 9: the servers are probably rented out in there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: He says, all right, Google, you pay me twenty million
Speaker 9: a year, and I'll store your ship here too. You know,
Speaker 9: it's a backup.
Speaker 5: So they're bringing a reactor from tm I and I
Speaker 5: bring it up because John John and I used to
Speaker 5: work really close to it. Yeah, bringing the reactor of
Speaker 5: three Mile Island back online. And Bill Gates is has
Speaker 5: boughty our contract now to run his AI machine.
Speaker 9: That man is a freak.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll get indicted for this bullshit.
Speaker 9: Hopefully we'll drop dead. He's one of the people. I mean,
Speaker 9: I used to love the guy's work. I loved the
Speaker 9: Windows when it came out. But he is a freak.
Speaker 9: He's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was better?
Speaker 8: I remember when I was doing MS dots you had Yeah,
Speaker 8: and then you came into Microsoft Word and Excel, which
Speaker 8: was just a better version.
Speaker 3: I wish i'd have bought it back then. I was
Speaker 3: just a dumb man.
Speaker 9: I remember the days when we had the big old
Speaker 9: five inch discs that apparently Newark Airport is still using
Speaker 9: to do the handle air traffic, and those things would
Speaker 9: sit there. You'd put this damn disc in and just
Speaker 9: sit there and listen to it for about thirty seconds of.
Speaker 1: Do they do they run that through peach text?
Speaker 9: Yeah, and then they then they drop down to those
Speaker 9: old three inch discs they used to go click and
Speaker 9: then the same thing. And then what did they hold
Speaker 9: one megabyte on there? You thought you were a god
Speaker 9: when you had five hundred megabyte you know hard drives.
Speaker 9: After that, well, I mean when we.
Speaker 1: Floppy, we've got less than two minutes. Shockingly, I mean
Speaker 1: that went by quick. Glenn. You have a very uh
Speaker 1: diversified background, and we we haven't even touched it.
Speaker 9: Some of it's good and some of it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we want to touch both.
Speaker 5: Spend many questions now, they ask him because he said
Speaker 5: really key words, Yeah, talking about Linux and red Head
Speaker 5: and oh I love it.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I only use Linux servers, that's it. Don't use a
Speaker 9: Microsoft server. So I've actually got right now a server
Speaker 9: sitting in my office that I set up. It's a
Speaker 9: Linux server. I leave it on twenty four hours a
Speaker 9: day for months. I never even have to reboot it
Speaker 9: because it's got no spywear in it. But you know,
Speaker 9: like your computer is like, oh, in my computer, I
Speaker 9: only use Windows seven Pro and that's because that was
Speaker 9: the last version before they implemented telemetry. So this, this
Speaker 9: laptop here is like I don't know, Windows eleven crap
Speaker 9: constantly wants to update and all this, you know, for
Speaker 9: security reasons, we need to update.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 9: What they want to do is put more spyware into
Speaker 9: you because they've come up with a new way to
Speaker 9: listen to John Farton Sideways or something like that, and
Speaker 9: they want to sell them a new farting whistle or
Speaker 9: something they could stick in your buttthole and make a
Speaker 9: different tune.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know. Okay, hey, uh that we're oh man,
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 3: To do more.
Speaker 9: Wait, last point before you end the show. You asked me,
Speaker 9: how do you say of yourself from this? Get rid
Speaker 9: of your your eye crap, Go to an Android and
Speaker 9: ask me how to hack the hell out of your
Speaker 9: your Android to shut everything down. That's what you have
Speaker 9: to do. That's the number one step, at least with
Speaker 9: the phone, and then we can talk about other stuff.
Speaker 13: Okay, Wow, Wow, that's awesome, No problem, man. I love
Speaker 13: helping Michael White ate up the first part of the show.
Speaker 13: We need so much more he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Anymore, Glenn, if you've got a time in the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, we'd love.
Speaker 3: To I do.
Speaker 9: I actually had the time today until somebody called me
Speaker 9: a two fifty five that was really important, and I
Speaker 9: told him I gotta go. These guys are waiting.
Speaker 1: For check this out, Bond.
Speaker 9: Oh God, all right, I'll tell you the clip story
Speaker 9: that's almost close to that. I was in China back
Speaker 9: in my thirties when I still had some like cool hair,
Speaker 9: and I was wearing my mirrored sunglasses and I had
Speaker 9: to go to a meeting. And I'm walking down the
Speaker 9: street in my suit to go to this guy's place
Speaker 9: to check my email, and next thing you know, I
Speaker 9: start hearing behind me ling ling chi, ling ling Chi.
Speaker 9: So I'm like at that time, I was still shaky
Speaker 9: in my Mandarin, and I was like, that sounds weird,
Speaker 9: and I keep walking. Finally I turn around. It's a
Speaker 9: crowd of thirty Chinese chicks and they were going ling
Speaker 9: ling chi and they're all hey, and I was like,
Speaker 9: later I asked my friend. They all thought you were
Speaker 9: double O seven that means zero zero seven in Chinese,
Speaker 9: and they don't want to touch my hair on my arm,
Speaker 9: and they wanted to look at it.
Speaker 6: Here you go.
Speaker 3: Well we got it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have bond Glenn. Oh, Jack, if
Speaker 1: you've got any time I did. Greg's more of a
Speaker 1: James bond than me. He just doesn't talk about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from Appalaysia.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, guys, listen, gleg Glenn roly appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I taken the no problem, and we'd love to have
Speaker 1: you back.
Speaker 9: I'll be back next Wenesday if you want.
Speaker 1: Yes, well that's great, Yes, yes, all right, market down.
Speaker 3: No one else we got.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we need we need to have more more hours
Speaker 9: of this ship.
Speaker 1: Yes, well yeah, you know it's very interesting and you
Speaker 1: are up on that and you have, ah, you have
Speaker 1: had an integral part in all this technology.
Speaker 3: So we've got to.
Speaker 1: We've got to talk to you about that.
Speaker 9: So I thought it was just for the comedy relief.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that too.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we got a wrap, so Jack, Jake, thanks Greg,
Speaker 1: thanks Glenn.
Speaker 9: Thanks nice seeing all you guys.
Speaker 3: We will see you next week.
Speaker 1: We can get you with us, okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: Gregs take care.
Speaker 9: All right, guys, take care.