WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.359 This is India Today Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.560 You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 the Sledging Room. Let me warn you this is not 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.480 a place for the faint hearted and the weak need. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.079 If you're a sports buff and like challenging everything you 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.160 see and hear, stay, If you're a sooner boat your 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:37.119 fan walk away right now. 8 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:45.119 Welcome to another episode of Sledging Room Podcasts sort of. 9 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.039 Nikol Nas, our guest who joined us for the Asia 10 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:51.200 Cup special last week, is unfortunately not here, but he'll 11 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:55.320 be back with us. So our usual suspect, King Sari 12 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.439 is back as we you know, sit here to discuss 13 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.399 usual substitute, usual substitute, however you want to call it. 14 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:05.680 Impact player, impact player. Alan is our impact player. Yeah, 15 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.920 but yeah, we are here to discuss India wes is 16 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.200 Pakistan and the start to the Isshia Cup. We touched 17 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:16.000 upon that, you know, burning question, should India play Pakistan 18 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.439 or not? But with two days to go and all 19 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.879 the decks cleared, the Indian government saying that we'll play 20 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.200 them in multinational tournaments and the fixtures ready, the tickets 21 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.599 are not selling. It seems the tickets are not sold out. 22 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:32.799 It seems so that's a concern. But sort of quick thoughts, 23 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.599 how has the Asia Cup been for you? Three four 24 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:39.200 matches have been done? Is it a series of mismatches 25 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:41.760 instead of matches? Do you? How do you look at it? 26 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.200 I mean if you look at the first three games, 27 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.439 especially the India was the UA game. They also match 28 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:50.599 a T twenty game which should last for at least 29 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.920 thirty five to four two overs, finishing around eighteen overs. 30 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.000 India hold them out of fifty seven and then it 31 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.760 took around four point three overs if I'm not wrong, yeah, 32 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.359 and objection must we get India to get past the total. 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.760 So this, this entire first segment of the Asia Cup 34 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.159 has been all about mismatches. If you look at Afghanistan 35 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.800 versus Hong Kong game, you know Afghanistan could have won 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.360 with a bigger margin had they been more clinical in 37 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.000 the approach. Similar with Bangladesh, had they not been cautious 38 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.719 in their approach while chasing the target? What was the 39 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:27.960 target one for? So this is first three games have 40 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.599 looked completely mismatched. But I believe this is just the 41 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.520 start of the tournament and the big matches areligned up 42 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.680 for the weekend. You know, the biggest I will in 43 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.400 Asia Sri Lanka was the Bangladeshi game is scheduled for Saturday, 44 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.840 and then you have got another mismatch coming in this 45 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.800 India versus a certain team from. 46 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:49.400 No I will name them. 47 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.919 I will name name a certain team called Pakistan whose 48 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.080 head coach is a delusional guy from New Zealand who 49 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.240 has said that Muhammad Namas is the best spinner in 50 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:02.000 the world. You know, as far as I know, Pakistan 51 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.639 cricket team. Even if you talk about the best player 52 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.439 of Pakistan, it's not us right now when they're playing eleven. 53 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.000 But if Michael Lilson things like that, maybe he has 54 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.000 some plans off his leaves. 55 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.319 No. I. You know, before we delve into this my 56 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:23.240 Casen's delusion and Moman Navas being the number one spinner, 57 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:25.639 I heard a lot of people saying, you know, okay, 58 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.000 this is why Asia Cup shouldn't be played. This is 59 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.120 why teams like UA and Hong Kong should not get 60 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.960 a chance. This is why India A should play instead 61 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.039 of some of the other teams. You know, I find 62 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.280 that argument very stupid. When your football team goes and 63 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.840 plays major tournaments, we don't compete with the best as 64 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.719 we should be, right and how else will you promote 65 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:48.840 the game, as like if India plays more and more 66 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.919 Afaciation Cup, more and more FIFA Worldcup qualifiers, more and 67 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.599 more KAFA Cups, then only will get the exposure, right, 68 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.319 So I don't know why this, you know, high handedness 69 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:59.800 of some of the ex cricketors as well. I'm just 70 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.000 for instance, Arashwan saying that India India A should be 71 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.719 part of this as I'm not questioning at least didn't 72 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:09.680 say that. Okay, these teams did not deserve to be here, 73 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.520 but there are a few who are saying that, which 74 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.560 I find very very very uncomfortable with because where else 75 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.720 will these teams get an opportunity to play teams like 76 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.079 Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, India. 77 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.720 Teams like Pakistan need more more such. 78 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.959 Matches, right, Teams like Pakistan need more such matches? Yeah, 79 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.959 I mean yeah, jokes aside, But Hong Kong, you a. 80 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.560 They have come here with a lot of dreams, right, 81 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.720 some for some for some meeting, We're Arkli, of course 82 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.319 we're Coali is not here for some meeting, Schumann Gil 83 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.240 meeting the best Indian batterle Suryak Maria just itself is 84 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.800 a big thing. They'll get inspired. But it's not even 85 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:52.480 about that. It's about so if you think that the 86 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:56.199 power concentration should be within say six, eight teams, ten teams, 87 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.000 then what you're promoting is a shrinking game. You won't 88 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.839 forward any anywhere because I heard some voices saying, oh, 89 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.800 this itself is a series of mismatches. Yeah, the T 90 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:08.800 twenty World Cup next year is going to be twenty 91 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:13.079 twenty twenty twenty teams. How lopsided that would be. But 92 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.000 then why do you play a World Cup? I will 93 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.240 tell you an easy fix for this is to play 94 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.560 out a group draw fairly not put India, Pakistan and 95 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.399 two poor teams in one Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka 96 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.480 in the other group. At least, let's argue that that 97 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.360 two of them are title contenders. Sri Lanka the last 98 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.240 TREE twenty World c T twenty Isha Cup was won 99 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.680 by them, Afghanistan are a dark horse permanently and Bangladesh. 100 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.600 If a lot of things in the world go right, 101 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:47.000 probably then they click. But at least there is some competition. 102 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.399 Yeah, and more than. 103 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.360 That, people forget why Isha Cup started at the first place, 104 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.199 I mean Asia Cup started. I don't think Sri Lanka 105 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.399 was a big team, so it actually started to promote 106 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.680 the bonhammi between the Asian nations, the good will. Yeah, 107 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.199 right now you are in a space where India and 108 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.000 Pakistan are not on good terms. We will talk about 109 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.839 vital conditions or even crickets Indian these are also not 110 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.000 on very good terms. But then you have to see 111 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.360 the largest big change and said you want to make 112 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.639 cricket a global sport. You're pitching cricket to be an 113 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:18.319 Olympic sport. 114 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:20.360 How do you make it that correct? 115 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.160 If you're not letting these small nations compete? 116 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.120 And also if I remember Akastrovra once said that I 117 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.600 think in Asia Cup, bcside does not take its share 118 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:34.399 of money like it distributes between the Asian nations as 119 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.800 in like see. I understand the sentiments of people from 120 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:39.879 both the countries who don't want the match to happen. 121 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.600 People from India especially, they have been very vocal. As 122 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.839 we near the India Pakistan game, which is on Sunday 123 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.879 in Dubai, there are a lot of voices that are 124 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.160 asking that are still urging India to boycott the match. 125 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:54.959 But the financial like you pointed out BCCI not pulling out, 126 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.120 there might be an influence of this, right that you 127 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.240 make money for the Asian Cricket Council and India is 128 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.319 not probably not going to benefit a lot from this 129 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.600 except the broadcasting revenues and all that. But the young, 130 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.920 the small teams, like you say, they will take their 131 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.319 share of money, they will take their match fee, they'll 132 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.480 take their tournament fee. So there are things that I 133 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.560 have a different theory for it. So I think we've 134 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:22.000 also spoken about it. That the decision by the Indian 135 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:27.079 government to boycott Pakistan in bilaterals and play them in multilaterals, 136 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.360 that's one of the mature sport diplomacies that we have 137 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.319 seen in the past, like in the last five six years. 138 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.199 And we know why that, and we know why exactly 139 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.120 right that if you are to host Olympics, you cannot 140 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:45.079 randomly go boycotting countries in nations. And if that happens, 141 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.160 they won't give you the tournament in the first place. 142 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.639 It's not like you throw money and they give it 143 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.439 to you. You have to bid for it. A culture 144 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.399 has to be set up, a culture of boycotting teams 145 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:58.160 in multilateral tournaments is not mature, whatever the reason may be. 146 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:00.759 So if you want to think big, you have to 147 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:04.759 play them, swallow that pill, play them and then go forward. Yeah, 148 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.480 but you know what asn't like like like we always 149 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.480 discussed cricket is the soft target, which we have seen 150 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.600 for so many you know, but this time, like like 151 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.519 Nickel discussed, like sort of discussed last episode, it is 152 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.199 a little bit vice versa rivers of what is happening 153 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.959 with cricket is not the soft target this time, but businesses, 154 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.040 like we said, artists have taken the brunt, whereas the 155 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.879 BC has been allowed to go and play Pakistan. So 156 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.879 that's a little bit of you know, a little bit 157 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.679 of uh, you know, this disappointment from a large section 158 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.679 of the masses in India. But going beyond that, India Pakistan, 159 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.240 Pakistan will play Oman later on Friday, So India Pakistan 160 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.840 sort of will it live up to the expectations. 161 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.159 I mean, if you look at the press confidence before 162 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:59.360 the tournament, when the captains of the boat, both teams, 163 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.519 they were talking, it was very very clear that there 164 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.120 was fiction there because when I you know that the 165 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.440 moment when Salmon Aliaga passed the mic why are Russia? 166 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.159 Khan to he was not looking towards he was looking 167 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.320 towards the press. It was like, okay, you want to boycotters, 168 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:16.759 I don't. 169 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.000 Want to see you. Will face you in the field. 170 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:24.120 And I I don't expect a very very good cricket match, 171 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.639 but I expect a fiery cricket match where there are 172 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.679 a lot of things going here and there, and it 173 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.679 has happened in the past also. But my only concern 174 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:36.559 right now is will this Will this Pakistani team be 175 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.080 able to challenge this Indian team gam Also, yeah, they 176 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.399 don't have power, they don't have Rizonan. Okay, they were 177 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.919 not world beaters, but still they were the best cricketers 178 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.720 from Pakistan the last two decats. Now the team which 179 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.720 they has full of youngsters and how can they handle 180 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:54.320 the Indian bowlers? How can they bowlers handle the Indian 181 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.200 battles because everything seems to be clicking for India even 182 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.440 when they had not played for so long. When they 183 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.399 stepped on the round after the first over her everything 184 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:04.679 seemed to click for them and you know, Ashiba was 185 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.879 still not playing, picked up three wickets. More than that, 186 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:12.279 the spin bowling trio of Akshar Kuldi and Varun. Yeah, 187 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.360 how is Pakistan going to face them? 188 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.320 You know a lot of this. You know, Asia Cup's 189 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.840 success this time will depend on Sunday's match and of course, 190 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.080 like you said, Saturday's match between Banglades and Stilaka. But 191 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.480 if this turns out to be a damn squid, if 192 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:31.120 India roll over Pakistan, it's gonna you know, grace more 193 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.639 voices saying why the hell are you playing the Asia Cup? 194 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.720 So but but you know you brought up that point. 195 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:42.000 Mike Keesen's point. Mike Esen saying that Mohammed Navas is 196 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.919 the world's best spinner at the moment and sayum Mayu 197 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:47.120 is one of the best all rounders at the moment, 198 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:50.120 top ten all rounders is what he said? Is that 199 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.559 part of a mind game that he is playing or 200 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:56.120 but I checked moment Nawa's stats since his return, he 201 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.279 has played eleven to twenty eyes and picked up twenty 202 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.720 wickets and he's the third best in that period. Since 203 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.840 his return in T twenty cricket and against Afghanistan in 204 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.200 the Tri Series final, he was bowling well as in 205 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:10.759 it might be twelve hours of hell from there. So 206 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:19.279 not from Kulip Perun and excerpt. But Sufi and Mukimbra 207 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:24.519 and moman naas add to it. Salman Aliaga, the captain 208 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.960 can roll his arm over, can roll his arm over, 209 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.320 single pacers, Shina Fridi and five spinners. How are India 210 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:34.519 gonna handle that? 211 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.879 Tell me that you're asking about this Pakistan bowling attack. Yeah, 212 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.679 you know Pakistan bowling and the hype around this Pakistan 213 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:47.080 bowling It was always around the Pakistani paces, even till 214 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:48.559 I think the twenty three World Cup. 215 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.200 Before that THEO happened. 216 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:53.720 I think we heard people saying that this is the 217 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:54.720 best bowling attack. Yeah. 218 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.639 Yeah, so they had they had the likes of Nasi, 219 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.600 Shaina frid the Harris Ralf. 220 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.759 Because it did sensational things in the twenty one and 221 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.919 twenty two World Cup. They made people dance to their tunes. 222 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.759 But they did not obviously go over the line. But 223 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.759 do you guys not think that the Pakistan attack is good? 224 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.200 I was not joking, So I was not joking, like 225 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.799 you know, if Pakistan was joking, he was probably not. No. 226 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.399 If Pakistani I was joking, I was probably not. 227 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:19.799 No. 228 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.840 Let's go for it, you know, I will talk about results. 229 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:26.120 What happened when Pakistan played West Indies they won? 230 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:31.440 Pakistan lost in twenty years, yes, yes, okay, but the 231 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:32.720 Try series winners. 232 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.399 And how many which teams played in a Tai series 233 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:40.000 in Afghanistan also defeated the once. You also played a 234 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.960 competitive game against Pakistan where when you talk about UI 235 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.759 playing inst India, they were rolled over, completely rolled over. 236 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:49.919 There was nothing to fight for. So comparing this Pakistan 237 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.519 team this Indian team, I believe this is an insult 238 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:54.559 to the Indian team. The caliber of Indian bowlers, the 239 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:57.360 caliber of Indian batters, all these Pakistan cricketers, they are 240 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.559 decent enough to play in cricket, but they're not good 241 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.039 enough to this time. So one SAT match on Sunday, 242 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.159 absolutely Pakistan is going to get rolled over. The only 243 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:06.799 thing which they can bring to this game is their 244 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:11.120 intensity and the feariness which they will bring. Otherwise, I 245 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.519 don't think they have the skill level paramount things to 246 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.840 challenge this intente. 247 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:16.799 I don't think they have it. 248 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.039 See if at all there was a format where Pakistan 249 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.720 could at least try and challenge India is T twenty cricketers. 250 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.960 I think because in Odias the skill gap is so 251 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.960 so they could not chase one hundred and nineteen one 252 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:35.120 twenty in Tirony World Cup. Right. Yeah, Like with Pakistan, 253 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.240 I think that since we don't play them often, they're 254 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.799 bowling always has a chance to surprise us. If that 255 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.120 surprise thing happens, then you know we sort of get 256 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.000 into that one fifty kind of a total. But their 257 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:53.679 batting cannot hold water at all. Yeah. See, you don't 258 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:55.960 have Barberundris one is. That is a huge advantage for 259 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.200 Pakistan according to me. So you can suddenly become barb 260 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.360 Is fans, but remove them out of the team. It's 261 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:06.320 it gives them at least some scopes. When you were 262 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:09.720 saying that Barber and are not their players, what are 263 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:10.440 you trying to say that? 264 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:12.399 What I'm trying to say is, I'll tell you what. 265 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.279 So if you look at his have you seen Pakistan's 266 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.200 playing eleven they're batting, so they're five five openers, they're 267 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.440 playing level and each opener, each player who is an opener, 268 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.720 who is batting in some other batting potion just goes 269 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:25.559 and swings is back. 270 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:27.559 Your opener is also batting at five. 271 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:33.200 Bro one one option. Fine, if you look at and 272 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:36.200 and in all those openers. I think only Hassanama is 273 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.240 the one who has actually clicked at the batting potion 274 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.960 which has been forced to back. You look at Simon, 275 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.039 look at Siman, you look at Mhammadhari's. 276 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:45.919 All these batters, they. 277 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.919 Are absolute duds, especially when you pulled them ast quality bowling. 278 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.559 They can't play good pace bawling. They can't play good 279 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.519 spin bowling, they can't clear the boundaries. I don't know 280 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.240 how you're dating these players. I just don't know. Well, 281 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:00.320 at least at least with Barber is one, they could 282 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.919 actually take the game deep. Even after Pakistan lost the game, 283 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:04.320 but they could take the game deep. 284 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.279 Had Rizwan stayed that day four. But it does not 285 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.559 play that ship shot against It doesn't stay. That's the 286 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.240 whole thing. But anyway, the main problem, you know is 287 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.480 what that this is the second tournament, multination tournament that 288 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:22.600 Pakistan are going with three months or less than three 289 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.600 months of coaching stuff and you you can't happen. It 290 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.000 can't go like that. So this this Pakistan team. Best 291 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.480 case scenario is that they challenge for the twenty seven 292 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.000 World Cup. Nothing before that. That's also the best case Ininnia. 293 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.600 I'm not saying that they can challenge this team like 294 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.799 like Sorow says, there is potential, but they are so inconsistent. 295 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.759 Not like they play England, Australia and India throughout the 296 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.279 year so that they are better prepared for that kind 297 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:56.399 of pressure. If Australia batters, England batters can't play Boomera, well, 298 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.200 you could argue that Pakistan, this team is not going 299 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:00.000 to play playing well. 300 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.120 And one more point I have just mentioned, sorry for 301 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.440 interrupting you. So since this realm sham happened where La 302 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.320 took over as the captain, so they went to New 303 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.159 Zealand and they played a good series where they won 304 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:16.960 the series. If I'm not wrong or they lost, but 305 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.279 they're the best bowler was someone called aku Jat. He 306 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:22.200 was a left tip pacer, a young pacer coming from 307 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.480 PSL and he was troubling news and battlesy and there. 308 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.320 Now what happens out of the series was the chief 309 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.840 selector who is acu Jivit drops that guy and now 310 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.200 that guy is nowhere to be seen in the squad 311 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.120 right has alien signs. I don't know how many matches 312 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.679 have they help Pakistan win. They're still being part of 313 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:39.840 that Pakistan playing eleven. 314 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.879 If you thinking about that Yoker Sherman coming into this 315 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:45.639 tournament and then he surprised. 316 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:49.279 You know, that is what my biggest shock with Pakistan 317 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:49.720 team is. 318 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:54.799 So if you believe that Barbarazwan Shaha, these people are 319 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:58.000 not good enough to play for Pakistan, how is someone 320 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.919 like Harry Stauf or someone like Shines still good enough 321 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:01.720 to play for Pakistan? 322 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.600 But the day was Macraum on the opening day of 323 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.160 the Isha Cup. He said that Shahine is in good 324 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.920 form right now. So people questioning his you know, dippin pays, 325 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:13.000 dip in form, dippin confidence, are all, you know, going 326 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:13.839 to be proved wrong. 327 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.799 So we'll talk to after the marg gets over we can. 328 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:22.359 But I think Wasum's observation stands last year, like in 329 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.839 that Australia tour or when they went to New Zealand, 330 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.680 Shine was borning like one seven, It's very bad. It's 331 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:33.319 awful to see. But in try series, for the amount 332 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.880 that I've watched him, he still has that. In Swinger 333 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.039 his pace is one forty plus. What he does not 334 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.839 have is that line that you should trouble every single 335 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:46.160 battery in the world. So I don't know maybe that 336 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:48.839 again that element of surprise thing comes about. 337 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.480 Yeah, and with Shahin, like he mentioned that element of 338 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.759 surprise shine was very good and lethal because you could 339 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:56.599 give you two or three good wickets in the first 340 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.319 couple of overs. Yeah, with his face pervers, with his 341 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.519 space and in string deliveries. Now what has happened is 342 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.240 he's actually too much reliant on that and he's bowling 343 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:09.160 fool where he's getting smarter away with every other batter 344 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:09.599 in the world. 345 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:11.599 Yeah, that happened in the T twenty world. 346 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.599 Yeah, that happened everywhere he has played. And I think 347 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.839 apart from that Rosha get in that Champions Trophy, I 348 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.039 don't think it's got one big batsman out like that 349 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.160 in the last one or two years. If I'm not wrong, 350 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.720 I may be wrong. But if I'm not wrong, Shayan 351 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.160 did oh that is western disnaw. Yeah, that's what I said. 352 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.279 Brilliant spell that You know what is this probably you 353 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.119 know talking about it is it seems to be hand 354 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.759 to heart. I'd say that it's gonna be a mismatch. 355 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.119 India are gonna cost through in a cricket game. Anything 356 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.519 can happen in a T twenty game. Especially anything can happen. 357 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.559 But on paper, like we say, the game is not 358 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:49.799 played on paper, But on paper, India look overwhelming favorites. 359 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:51.880 If you want to give if if you want us 360 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:54.880 to give a percentage, maybe eighty three seventeen in favor 361 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:57.440 of India. Do you think anyone can challenge India in 362 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:00.240 this tournament on their best day, on their best day, 363 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.079 I think Pakistan can. So don't think it the best 364 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:08.079 our worst day, think it our great day, their best day. 365 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:13.880 India India. True, yeah, that makes it. That's the truth. 366 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.440 But to not say not, I'm not saying that, Okay, 367 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.000 Hong Kong shouldn't play India, you should play, but India 368 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.960 can have the best, probably have the best chance to 369 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:27.000 challenge India at this moment. But you know, looking at 370 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.839 the journey, looking at the journey, it has come to 371 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.599 this point. It is the hype around India Pakistan contest dead. 372 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.440 It's just the media and the fans probably get like 373 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.799 he said, they might not play good cricket, It might 374 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.559 not be a good cricket match, but that emotion that 375 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.559 we associate to India Pakistan is still there. But the 376 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:47.799 quality of cricket, I don't know When was the last 377 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.640 time you were seriously challenged? Yes, like he said, on 378 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.920 India's off days they have managed to win. But on 379 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.440 India's best days, no, no chance. Like in India Australia 380 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.240 Test Series. When was the last time you saw in 381 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.559 India Pakistan contest living up to the. 382 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.839 Hype the World Cup? 383 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.680 So let's let me put it like this. Would you 384 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.200 Watchnis versus or Shut in World Championships? Would the hype 385 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:16.480 be there? Absolutely? Two Olympic champions, right, contenders at the 386 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:20.759 peak of their form, only to probably finish behind Julian 387 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.960 Webber this time. But that's a different story. But like 388 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:28.480 I'm also very interested in watching and the story is same. Right, 389 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:31.319 they don't meet each other at all apart from these 390 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:32.200 top competitions. 391 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.400 And when when you talk about these two is an 392 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.160 Olympic champions, is a World champion and and Usha actually 393 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.839 took over from Niras as the Olympic champion, so there 394 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:47.000 is that point of champions there. Indian Pakistan shared podium. Yeah, 395 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.799 we'll talk about Indian Pakistan. Pakistan played good cricket Teak 396 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:51.599 World Cup. 397 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.319 I'm not wrong. There is a final since then, you 398 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.440 can have not read any good any. 399 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:58.799 Good to That's probably the point that that the that 400 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.359 the hype is for I still to a team that's 401 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.799