Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Constance New Radio.
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Speaker 2: talking about the twenty twenty five Burlington Middle School survey.
Speaker 2: Is a is a Globe article today is how we
Speaker 2: found out about it, To be really honest with you,
Speaker 2: and I want to hats off to the Globe and
Speaker 2: also hats off to the reporter on the story, James Vasnez,
Speaker 2: where they ask kids in the sixth, seventh and eighth
Speaker 2: grade some pretty out out there questions dealing with their
Speaker 2: quote unquote sexuality and what sort of sexual activity they
Speaker 2: had engaged in These just kids in the sixth, seventh
Speaker 2: and eighth grade, and whether or not they had used
Speaker 2: toys or props, either vaginally or anally. And now some
Speaker 2: parents had opted out of this, which is understandable, but
Speaker 2: I guess the kids were still subjected to it. So
Speaker 2: I want to listen to what parents say. Uh, and
Speaker 2: I have a two Burlington parents lined up who've been
Speaker 2: very patient. I'm going to go right to them. Let
Speaker 2: me go to Cheryl and Burlington. Cheryl, I need to
Speaker 2: listen to what you have to say. You go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Hi, thank you so much for having us on. I
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: So my situation is a little different. My husband did
Speaker 3: opt my son out of the survey, but they kept
Speaker 3: him in the classroom while his friends were taking the survey,
Speaker 3: and his friends were very confused. My son said, you know,
Speaker 3: he felt very uncomfortable being in the class. But then
Speaker 3: one of his friends turned to him and said, you know, bro,
Speaker 3: what's on this paper? What is this question? And my
Speaker 3: son was like, I don't know. Why don't you google it?
Speaker 2: So I asked you that's what they wanted the kids
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but I my son, well, what
Speaker 3: kind of question was it? I mean, was it about alcohol?
Speaker 3: Is it about tobacco?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: What was it about your gender? He's like, no, mommy,
Speaker 3: I think it was a sexual question. So these kids,
Speaker 3: they don't know anything like that right now. They're just
Speaker 3: in sixth grade. All they want to do is play
Speaker 3: video games.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the other thing too, is This is valuable
Speaker 2: teaching time. We find out that our kids are behind
Speaker 2: in math, they're behind in reading, they're behind in English.
Speaker 2: So let's give them a ninety page questionnaire about sex
Speaker 2: toys in part exactly Okay, And as I say, I
Speaker 2: hope that you folks in Burlington rise up. Parents. Eighty
Speaker 2: percent of the people in Burlington are going to agree
Speaker 2: with you when they read this survey that it is
Speaker 2: that it is way over the top.
Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up in Burlington and we moved
Speaker 3: into the house that we have now in Burlington because
Speaker 3: I was very happy with our school system. You know,
Speaker 3: I've very far in life. I was very happy, and
Speaker 3: I'm shattered by just what is happening in the school
Speaker 3: system now. It's just inappropriate and.
Speaker 2: Get involved politically, Cheryl. I can't tell you it'll be
Speaker 2: the most satisfying thing you've ever done, because you're standing
Speaker 2: up for your kids and you're standing up for your
Speaker 2: rights as a parent. Thank you so much for calling.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Let me go to Jason in Burlington. Jason, you're next
Speaker 2: on Nightside. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Hi, Dan, thank you, thank you for taking the time
Speaker 6: with us. Just to echo Cheryl, I'm actually also a
Speaker 6: town meeting member in Burlington. You had asked about the recall.
Speaker 6: They had actually got brought up at a previous town meeting.
Speaker 6: They do not have We do not have a recall
Speaker 6: in our charter right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that gives you more time to get ready
Speaker 2: for the next election.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we are you know, be You know, people
Speaker 6: keep beating the drum about the sexual questions. While those
Speaker 6: were awful, and I agree absolutely one, the other thing
Speaker 6: that kept come the other questions in the survey. I
Speaker 6: don't know if you went over all of them, but
Speaker 6: I was, you know, during the test month, what flavors
Speaker 6: of tobacco did you use? And you know, it's kind
Speaker 6: of leading the kids to say, well, I don't use tobacco,
Speaker 6: should I be?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, yeah I agree.
Speaker 6: And I also I also coach in the town here too.
Speaker 6: I coach these kids. I mean, my son's in seventh grade,
Speaker 6: so I coached the seventh and eighth graders and that,
Speaker 6: you know, after this came out, they were talking about it,
Speaker 6: and someone were saying, like, we were asking these teachers
Speaker 6: questions about this stuff just to make them uncomfortable. Oh,
Speaker 6: I mean the kids the frame of moment to actually
Speaker 6: ask that.
Speaker 2: You know, well, it also comes down to who raises
Speaker 2: your kids, and what values are instilled in your kids,
Speaker 2: and what are they exposed to win. When it's as
Speaker 2: simple as that you don't expose kids in the sixth
Speaker 2: grade to calculus because frankly, they're not ready for calculus. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's as simple as that you don't have kids in
Speaker 2: the sixth grade read and discuss Shakespeare because they're not
Speaker 2: prepared to deal with Shakespeare. And it's it's it is infuriating.
Speaker 2: It is infuriating that within these school boards that all
Speaker 2: you need is one or two progressives who say, well,
Speaker 2: let's do this. Let's have a survey on what type
Speaker 2: of sexual perversity our children might be engaged in. It
Speaker 2: kind of excites me to think about what might they
Speaker 2: might be doing out there. I think we should know,
Speaker 2: don't you, Fred Oh, I mean yeah, it's insane. It's insane.
Speaker 6: One positive point I would like to point out to
Speaker 6: this too, is we have a new middle school principal.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you want me to say his name, but.
Speaker 2: Unless you want to say something complimentary about him, go ahead.
Speaker 6: No, it's very complimentary to Nick Mahon. Every parent I've
Speaker 6: talked to has they that has reached out to him.
Speaker 6: He's been very in front of this and trying, you know,
Speaker 6: trying to get to.
Speaker 5: The bottom of it.
Speaker 6: He's not shying away from anything like the like the
Speaker 6: superintendent you know, with with accountability as well.
Speaker 2: If any of you know him, if any of you
Speaker 2: know him, reach out to him. I'd love to have
Speaker 2: him on the show. He can take phone calls. Maybe
Speaker 2: he should be the superintendent.
Speaker 6: Well maybe, I mean. So this this actually happened two
Speaker 6: years ago, and we had asked for an option to
Speaker 6: opt into this survey. My son was in fifth grade
Speaker 6: at the time, but I saw this coming and with
Speaker 6: the they sent out a thing and you know, we
Speaker 6: got one notification. I think you've probably been told that
Speaker 6: already too.
Speaker 2: Yep, but it you know, we what they what they
Speaker 2: do is they're they're control freaks. They play games, and
Speaker 2: it's and what happens is the poor teachers have to
Speaker 2: go along with it. And all you have to do
Speaker 2: is elect two or three members of the school committee
Speaker 2: who are going to say this is ridiculous. This is like,
Speaker 2: I use the analogy, It's like, well, well, let's teach
Speaker 2: Shakespeare in the third grade. Seriously, let's teach calculus to
Speaker 2: the third grade. Yoh yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you know, if you want to do something like
Speaker 2: this in high school, that's a different argument. This is
Speaker 2: a middle school survey. Jason, thank you much. Please get active.
Speaker 2: You sound like me coaching kids and stuff, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, so important, so important activate get active.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jason, and thank you for listening. Tonight's I keep
Speaker 2: calling the show. Thank you. I'm going to keep rolling here,
Speaker 2: going to try to get everybody in and then we
Speaker 2: will change top in a moment. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Mike and Norwell, Mike, you're next on NI Saga right ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to echo what one woman said
Speaker 7: that let me think what she said, Oh that is
Speaker 7: given by the grant. I think that's what might be
Speaker 7: driving this grant money because I know and I'm not
Speaker 7: sure really grooming is the right word, because why would
Speaker 7: anymen in this group and you want to groom the kids.
Speaker 7: I mean, but maybe, like you said, they are getting
Speaker 7: some excitement out of it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not saying let me be very clear,
Speaker 2: I don't think that they are grooming because they want
Speaker 2: to somehow take a bit. No, that's that's an improper,
Speaker 2: uh interpretation of it. I think that there are people
Speaker 2: who are simply more progressive than the community and they're
Speaker 2: going to say, Okay, well, these kids should be exposed
Speaker 2: to this, you know, at an earlier age, because they're
Speaker 2: talking about it and we want to make sure everybody
Speaker 2: discusses it. Now. There's some questions on the survey that
Speaker 2: deal with alcohol use, which I think is legit intimate
Speaker 2: because if they find out that there's a problem within
Speaker 2: the school system, that's a that's legitimate to bring the
Speaker 2: sexual questions in. That's a different issue in my opinion,
Speaker 2: And the analogy I use is why don't you teach
Speaker 2: calculus to kids in the third grade, because when you
Speaker 2: start talking about sex, toys and stuff like that, you
Speaker 2: weigh over the heads of six of kids in the
Speaker 2: UH in the sixth and seventh and eighth grade. Now
Speaker 2: someone's going to say, oh, Dan, you don't know what
Speaker 2: you're talking about. I'm telling you I have a pretty
Speaker 2: good idea about what kids know about. And also it's
Speaker 2: a waste of time because these kids they're behind in reading, math, English,
Speaker 2: And I don't care. What the what, what the what?
Speaker 2: The surveys say, this is the this will waste of time.
Speaker 2: This uppuds of ninety questions here. It's insane. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: I agree it's up to the parents to take control
Speaker 2: of their school system. They pay for it, their kids
Speaker 2: are educated in it. They should they should decide what
Speaker 2: is discussed UH and how it's discussed.
Speaker 8: And that's one is show that I want to drive home.
Speaker 8: During our entire elections, basically everybody runs unopposed. And one
Speaker 8: of the select Word members said he said this more
Speaker 8: than once. If you don't like what we're doing, their
Speaker 8: voters out, Well, I really want to get up there
Speaker 8: and say, how can I vote you out when you're
Speaker 8: always running unopposed.
Speaker 2: Well, you know how you can vote them out. Put
Speaker 2: your name on the ballot, get to your friends, and
Speaker 2: run a campaign against them. It's like all the members
Speaker 2: of Congress who always get re elected. You know, we
Speaker 2: talk about term limits. We do have term limits every
Speaker 2: two years. But what happens and I've said this before
Speaker 2: and I'll say it again, you have no clue. Most
Speaker 2: people have no clue what their congressman is voting for against,
Speaker 2: or what this selectman is voting for against, because they're
Speaker 2: too busy trying to work and pay taxes. They see
Speaker 2: the congressman once a year at the diner on a
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and the congressman comes around in a patterman
Speaker 2: back like they Mike, Mike, how Hi, wah whaah blah,
Speaker 2: everything's going, Hey, how's everything? And the people go home
Speaker 2: and they say, you know, or who call me by
Speaker 2: my first name? The congress went from frof. So you
Speaker 2: know that's how they do it. The power of the incumbency.
Speaker 2: Go run against and you can do it. You can, Mike,
Speaker 2: put your name in the ballot, get some friends, get
Speaker 2: on the ballot, and you know what a lot of
Speaker 2: these people who are incumbents. They don't have the backbone
Speaker 2: to run for reelection, trust me on that. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you, Thanks, Thanks Mike. Talk to you soon. Okay,
Speaker 2: quick break, coming right back. I think we're gonna wrap
Speaker 2: this up at ten thirty, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about what's going on down in El Salvador for at
Speaker 2: least a half an hour. Back on Nightside, I got
Speaker 2: Lola and I got Ed, and that's probably gonna be
Speaker 2: in on this. At ten thirty, we will break and
Speaker 2: switch topic. Coming back on Nightside.
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Speaker 2: Because keep Rowland. Are going to go to Lola in
Speaker 2: San Diego. Lola actually had believe had read about this
Speaker 2: story in San Diego. Hi, Lola, how are you? Lola?
Speaker 2: We got to put Lola on hold. If she's not ready, Rob,
Speaker 2: let's go to Eden Wooster ed your next night Sager right.
Speaker 5: Ahead by Dan. Public opinion is only going to matter
Speaker 5: on this if people lose their jobs, either by not
Speaker 5: getting re elected or by in the case of the superintendent,
Speaker 5: getting fired, and if the gentleman had called it a
Speaker 5: few minutes ago and said there's no recall provision in
Speaker 5: the town charter of the town by laws will light
Speaker 5: a fire under the Board of Selectmen to put one in,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you even if. But first of all,
Speaker 2: if there isn't, that's the issue for the next campaign.
Speaker 2: The words you say, we want to run, and one
Speaker 2: of the issues we want is a recall petition. So
Speaker 2: if we don't do the jil you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: running for politics is not brain surgery. It's not flying airplanes.
Speaker 2: It's pretty straightforward and simple stuff.
Speaker 5: And this is, if I can say something else, this
Speaker 5: is why people want the Department of federal Department of
Speaker 5: Education eliminated. A lot of this grant money in quotation
Speaker 5: marks is not private. It's federal grant money that gets
Speaker 5: routed to these local school districts through government agencies, and
Speaker 5: it's basically tax dollars, federal tax dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally get it. I totally agree with you,
Speaker 2: and people have to. It's got to be able to
Speaker 2: step up. You know. What will happen is a certain
Speaker 2: number of people will say I'm going to take my
Speaker 2: kids out of school and going to put them in
Speaker 2: a parochial school or a private school. Well, that's a
Speaker 2: good thing, but it doesn't leave the It then leaves
Speaker 2: your neighbors, the kids. If you have the money to
Speaker 2: do that, great, you're still paying your taxes for the
Speaker 2: public school. At that point, you're giving up. You're throwing
Speaker 2: your hands up and say take my tax money and
Speaker 2: I'll go pay for private school. I would say, keep
Speaker 2: your kid in the school. Explain to the y what's
Speaker 2: going on. And I think it's interesting that they that
Speaker 2: they made these kids sit in the school. That's an
Speaker 2: effort to embarrass these kids. Because if you're sitting there
Speaker 2: and and the other kids are taking the test, this questionnaire,
Speaker 2: every the other kids, Hey Billy, how come are you
Speaker 2: are taking this? You know what? What I give man
Speaker 2: enough to take the test. It subjects Billy and others
Speaker 2: to the potential ridicule. But they do that intentionally. If
Speaker 2: if just think of it, remember when there was when
Speaker 2: when there would be one kid in the class that
Speaker 2: doesn't want to do the pledge of allegiance, and you'd say, well,
Speaker 2: allow the kid to, you know, leave the classroom. All
Speaker 2: count do that, because then the child would be subjected
Speaker 2: to harassment by their friends. They got the system rigged,
Speaker 2: and they got the system rigged.
Speaker 5: And also they think they should rule over us.
Speaker 2: They don't care what because they're smarter. They smarter than you,
Speaker 2: and they're smarter than me. That's why they think that.
Speaker 2: And and it also they're able to virtue signal. And well,
Speaker 2: we're so progressive. We want our children to know about
Speaker 2: sex toys. And that's that's how progressive we are, aren't
Speaker 2: we wonderful? We're just letting our children know sex toys.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, we're gonna have them do Shakespeare in
Speaker 2: the sixth grade and calculus, and we're gonna do you know,
Speaker 2: some some seminars on sex toys. We're gonna bring sex
Speaker 2: toys in and and teach teach sex toys to the
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth graders too, so they'll be ready to
Speaker 2: deal with sex toys in the sixth grade. These people
Speaker 2: are insane ed and they're running the school systems.
Speaker 5: But they think they are our masters, and they don't
Speaker 5: care what we think. And unless they get fired or
Speaker 5: get don't get re elected, they don't care what we think.
Speaker 2: You got it, You got it, and I love your calls, man,
Speaker 2: you know that. Okay, thank you so much. I think
Speaker 2: so similarly. Thank you very much. All Right, I got
Speaker 2: Lola back.
Speaker 3: Lola.
Speaker 2: We were looking for you. You weren't there, but your
Speaker 2: back Go ahead, Lola.
Speaker 4: I was. There was a glitch in the phone. So
Speaker 4: I'm over here in California. And you've said it more
Speaker 4: than once. What happens in California ends up happening over there.
Speaker 4: So in the school systems here, they are harboring the
Speaker 4: children that want to transition and not telling the parents.
Speaker 4: So you think they'll survey, ah, that this is what's
Speaker 4: going on. If a kid thinks he's a girl, they
Speaker 4: don't tell the parents. Hey, your kids questioning their sexuality
Speaker 4: or their gender gender? Okay, because that's where it starts.
Speaker 4: And I and I do personally have empathy for people
Speaker 4: that are blond in the wrong body because the chromosome
Speaker 4: wash or the hormonal wash you can cross at that point.
Speaker 2: At that point, the parents should be brought in. If
Speaker 2: the school wants to be peripherally involved, that's great counseling.
Speaker 2: You know, it has to be like a holistic approach, Okay,
Speaker 2: but it's not.
Speaker 4: The parents of in the dock here. So I would say,
Speaker 4: you want to so you have to stand for something.
Speaker 4: Are you going to fall for nothing so.
Speaker 2: You fall for everything? Actually that.
Speaker 4: I'm so wound up with everything. So this is my suggestion.
Speaker 4: Go through some standouts on a public sidewalk and just
Speaker 4: keep moving and you can say your peace and start
Speaker 4: exposing these people that do not have the best interest
Speaker 4: in your children. I don't have children, and I'm concerned
Speaker 4: because I'm like, what is going on? Every time I
Speaker 4: turn around, I see wrong things happening. Corruption, Corruption is
Speaker 4: alive and well and it's coming out. And I don't
Speaker 4: want to, you know, Miranda off the road here, but
Speaker 4: astrology and the planets have a lot to do with
Speaker 4: what please don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah quite enough. Well, I'm sorry that I missed it before,
Speaker 2: but I'm at ten thirty and I got to take
Speaker 2: the news.
Speaker 4: I know the news. I know the news, and listen
Speaker 4: to the news while you're you know, taking a break.
Speaker 4: But yeah, let's let's get the party started and do standouts.
Speaker 2: All right. I'm with you on that. Thanks Lola. Good
Speaker 2: advice from San Diego. Thank you much, thank you. I
Speaker 2: have a great night. Thanks Lola. Look, we will take
Speaker 2: some We're gonna change topics, okay, because I think I
Speaker 2: don't want to beat the dead horse. I've said all
Speaker 2: I won't need to say about this. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the trip by the Maryland Senator down to
Speaker 2: El Salvador to try to bring home the fellow who
Speaker 2: was in the country illegally uh and who allegedly was
Speaker 2: a member of MS thirteen. And we have some sound
Speaker 2: from Senator Van Holland which I promoted tonight, so I
Speaker 2: want to get your reaction to what he did and
Speaker 2: what he had to say. And we will switch topics
Speaker 2: right after the news here on a Sunday night, and
Speaker 2: then we go to What grind You Gears at eleven.
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