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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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<v Speaker 1>in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome everybody to trans Dimensional Realities. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa Ly, and here we talk about all things strange

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<v Speaker 1>and weird and wonderful that is all part of our reality,

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<v Speaker 1>even if we don't realize it. This is our first

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<v Speaker 1>show of twenty twenty six and I'm really excited. This

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<v Speaker 1>is our third show and we've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great guests already lined up for the next couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to be doing a weekly show here.

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<v Speaker 1>It will come out on Thursdays both on our podcast station,

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<v Speaker 1>Paranormal UK Radio Network or paukradio dot com. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the video portion is on my YouTube page, so look

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<v Speaker 1>up Melissa Ly the way I spell it, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see the video interviews, same interviews, but with video. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it's much more personal. So I figured being the

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<v Speaker 1>first show of the new year, let's get down to basics.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think paranormal, what do you think of ghosts?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have been a paranormal investigator for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen and done a lot. I've experienced a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of weird things, and it's always been a fascinating subject

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<v Speaker 1>to me, trying to figure out not only what happens

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<v Speaker 1>to us when we die, but also what are we

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing right now. People sometimes think of ghosts doing things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's sometimes a lot more complex than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So in any case, we have a great couple of

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<v Speaker 1>guests lined up for tonight, both paranormal investigators. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Regina Blatt from PPF Investigations, and we have a Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Pig who is part of the Medics for Paranormal group.

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome both Regina and Lead to the program. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having us.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, thank you well.

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<v Speaker 1>You both are paranormal investigators. So if you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about your group, how long you've

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<v Speaker 1>been investigating, and you know, then we'll start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some really fun stuff. So Regina, why don't you go first?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, my name is Regina. My team is called PPF Investigations,

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<v Speaker 3>which is pursuing paranormal facts and there's a story behind

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<v Speaker 3>that which we can get into if you want. I

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<v Speaker 3>am going on my fifteenth year of being a paranormal investigator.

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<v Speaker 4>I have always seen things and experiencing as a child

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<v Speaker 4>and as an adult, I came to learn that I

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<v Speaker 4>have empathic powers, and I know everybody's as different.

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<v Speaker 3>I can actually sense and feel emotions of the living

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<v Speaker 3>and the dead. So that does help me when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing paranormal investigations. But yeah, I got into the field

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<v Speaker 3>because just about fifteen years ago, probably maybe going on

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen years ago, my sister committed suicide and she started

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<v Speaker 3>coming to me in dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry to hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Three years after that, my father passed away

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<v Speaker 3>from lung cancer and he started visiting me too, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought to myself, there's more to this life than

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<v Speaker 3>this physical body, and I started my journey on trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we're going to have to talk about those two events. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I've had some experiences too, Lee, What about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I've investigating for right at a ten year mark. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to look up exact day, but it's right at

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<v Speaker 2>ten years as a child growing up, I grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the house was haunted per se, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think the land was because the whole street there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a rumor about every third or fourth house.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we were told, okay, don't go there, that

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<v Speaker 2>house is haunted. The house is haunted. Then things started

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<v Speaker 2>happening in my home well as I grew to an

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<v Speaker 2>or do and started pursuing m mass. Actually I started investigator,

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<v Speaker 2>getting into the investigation side of it a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find out the you know, the where and

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<v Speaker 2>the why, if at all possible. And just like Regina said,

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<v Speaker 2>there there had to be more out there than what

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<v Speaker 2>we actually see. So during that my first job as

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<v Speaker 2>an ant, my partner that I worked with, she had

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<v Speaker 2>done it before, so we kind of you know, joined

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<v Speaker 2>forces for a little while and we investigated for several

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<v Speaker 2>years and then we parted ways. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>like Regina also said, I discovered that I do have

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<v Speaker 2>so much since emotion as much, but I do. I can,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel confident enough to say about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time can tell if something's in the

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<v Speaker 2>room with us and where that person or entity is.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I joined up with Regina, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you right now, just to start, that's been

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<v Speaker 2>far as an investigator. That's why I sported into it.

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<v Speaker 2>My team, by the way, medics for paranormal. We were

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<v Speaker 2>all emergency medical services personnel trying to incorporate work into

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, taking care of the living and the dead,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. And then, like I said, I joined

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<v Speaker 2>up with Regina, and I kind of feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm almost a part of her team just you are,

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<v Speaker 2>and could not be more proud of her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Well, the team that you run, Regina, is

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<v Speaker 1>mostly a female team.

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<v Speaker 3>We are an all female team, but we're a small team,

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<v Speaker 3>so we do pair up with other paranormal teams a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, Lee, since we met, you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>has always been invited and has all intended almost everything

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<v Speaker 3>that we have been on. So and I wouldn't think

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<v Speaker 3>of doing any investigations without him, you know. Moving forward,

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<v Speaker 3>we just have a really really special bond and it's

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<v Speaker 3>really interesting and different for both of us because we've

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<v Speaker 3>never experienced that before. But I think being empathic, we

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<v Speaker 3>always call it like a spiritual umbilical cord. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>when we're together, it just amps it up even.

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<v Speaker 1>More fantastic so let's talk about the paranormal in general. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone through for the last twenty years, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been investigating longer than that. The plethora of ghost shows,

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<v Speaker 1>ghost investigation shows, everything from Ghost Hunters, the Ghost Adventures

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<v Speaker 1>to Little God Knows Everything else, and most of the shows,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say, oh crap, and uh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Although I will say Ghost Adventures for just

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<v Speaker 1>all the issues they have, it's still make guilty pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>because I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Ghak like I will be a Ghak fan forever. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care how many people hate Zach. I love him.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to give the man credit for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven seasons on TV. Can't fake all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's a very entertainer. But anybody that can get

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<v Speaker 2>that much evidence and one.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, well they're there for three or four nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, they're great. They're great and entertainers they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say this, it's one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>shows that I think really shows legitimate evidence that they capture.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't always agree their interpretations of that evidence, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are capturing and experiencing things.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, people have to remember too, it is TV and

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<v Speaker 3>they go over and above. You know, they get really

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<v Speaker 3>scared and it may not be that scared, but that's entertainment,

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<v Speaker 3>that's part of it. Yeah, I say it's right, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying right right. Well, I was on a on

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<v Speaker 1>one of the shows many years ago, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible experience because of the producers misrepresenting evidence, cutting

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<v Speaker 1>things to make things look like they happen differently, abusing

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<v Speaker 1>my my, my clients. So yeah, I'm not a real

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of production companies, so I should make my

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<v Speaker 1>own anyway. So ghost investigations, paranormal investigations, they really have

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<v Speaker 1>taken off because of I think a lot of these shows,

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<v Speaker 1>although there are a lot of teams that go back

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<v Speaker 1>for decades investigating. What would you say is one of

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<v Speaker 1>your most fascinating things about investigating the paranormal? What really

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<v Speaker 1>gets you excited?

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<v Speaker 3>I just think, like, let me back up and say

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<v Speaker 3>that ghost hunting is not what you see on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>As we all know. It's sitting in the dark for many,

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<v Speaker 3>many eight twelve hours and getting absolutely nothing but that

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<v Speaker 3>one time, that one one time when you hit something

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<v Speaker 3>and you get a voice or answers, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>amazing and that's what keeps most of us going into

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<v Speaker 3>this field. I was over re location, ran the ghost

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<v Speaker 3>hunting tours for seven years at this old it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the oldest opera houses in the South, and we

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<v Speaker 3>just got amazing evidence out of their names and voices

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<v Speaker 3>and footsteps to where I could take the evidence and

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<v Speaker 3>go back to the historian and match it up. And

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<v Speaker 3>those are the types of things that excite me in

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<v Speaker 3>this field. It's like the spirit is giving us the

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<v Speaker 3>information and here I can coordinate it with a historian

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that it's real. And I even had

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<v Speaker 3>the owners, you know, I'd come to them with with

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<v Speaker 3>different things that spirit gave us and they're like, how

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<v Speaker 3>did you know that? Nobody knows that. It's like spirit

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<v Speaker 3>gave it to me. Like we're hearing the same things

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<v Speaker 3>over and over. They're trying to communicate. But to answer

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<v Speaker 3>your question, I think it's that it's that one clear answer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that one clear evp. It's that one clear even

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a yes no that is like so amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you get a message from a loved one

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<v Speaker 3>that is just for you, which I have gotten those

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<v Speaker 3>two It's just those are the things that keep me going.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not all what Hollywood makes it out to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not all you know, we're breaking out Ouiji boards

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<v Speaker 3>and things are flying all over the place and all

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. It's not that I always set

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<v Speaker 3>out to show and prove that there is a lighter,

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<v Speaker 3>loving side to this than what we see on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the problem with these television shows is fear selves, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you can make people afraid or freaked out,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll stay tuned in. So that's the problem with most

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<v Speaker 1>of these shows. That's why even with ghost Adventures, they

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<v Speaker 1>look at a lot of things from a negative standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what keeps people tuning in to see the

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<v Speaker 1>freaky stuff, right, I mean, and of course, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost fifteen years, I've never come across a demon. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't put myself into situations where I know there

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<v Speaker 3>possibly might be one, But I'm not going on there

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<v Speaker 3>and claiming, oh, that's a demon. That's a demon, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a growl, that's a you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, I understand Lee. What about you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, one of the things that I really love about

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<v Speaker 5>it is the history of you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>these locations that we go to you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 5>much history or so much blood soak, you know, able

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<v Speaker 2>Of keep it alive, keep people aware of what was

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<v Speaker 2>here before all of us. Somebody had told me when

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<v Speaker 2>I first started investigating, they said, pay attention to everything

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<v Speaker 2>around you. You're going to see a lot more you

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<v Speaker 2>know not you know, and that right, they are just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rung, you know, hung true with me, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the truth. For example, And this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the best example I can give of what I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. I was vacationing down in Florida at the

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<v Speaker 2>beach and it was an old civil war for it,

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<v Speaker 2>during the war days. Uh Me and my friend we

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<v Speaker 2>walked into this room and it was all mital room

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, we're not in here by ourself, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's like really, I'm like, yeah, we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>We pulled out my phone and I did just a

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<v Speaker 2>quick burst VP session. Very first question I asked, I

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<v Speaker 2>was powerful enough you could hear it reverberating off the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish I had it loaded up here now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just a clear, very resient Regina's heard

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<v Speaker 2>it is just said yes, and you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>told my friend, I said, yeah, I said, there's there

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<v Speaker 2>was people here before and they're still here. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think the history of it is really what keeps me going,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I mean, I walk into a building,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't walk into Walmart, and I just wonder what's

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<v Speaker 2>the next room. I don't hear it. My good, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm embarrassed right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't hear it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, well, very good, so good. The other night,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was at the hospital working, I had came

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<v Speaker 2>out to the ambulance and I was outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>my partner and there's two sets of doors. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them is just a regular door log just like you

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<v Speaker 2>got to keep had to get in, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, the inside door opened up, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>outside door opened up from the inside. I said, do

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<v Speaker 2>you see that, I said, somebody just walked out They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean. I said, somebody just walked out.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I didn't see anybody. I said, exactly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And well, like I said, the history of it. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta tell me to quit talking. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the show is for. That's why we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about these things. And I love these types

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<v Speaker 1>of stories that you know, so many things happen. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason I named the show what it is

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<v Speaker 1>is because all of these things are part of our reality,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet mainstream science and media everybody else you would

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<v Speaker 1>only look at it as a novelty if they believe

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<v Speaker 1>in it at all. But the truth is, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more going out there that we don't understand, that's

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<v Speaker 1>right underneath the surface. But yet it's still there with us.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what fascinates me the most about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just so much to learn and experience if

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<v Speaker 1>you're open to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, completely agree, Regina.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about when when your sister

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<v Speaker 1>passed and your father, the experiences of being visited. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, they both visit me quite often, not so as

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<v Speaker 3>the years go on it kind of is less and

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<v Speaker 3>less to say. My belief is they feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really need them anymore, but I love to have

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<v Speaker 3>them around. But I had a very, very vivid dream

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<v Speaker 3>when my sister first came to me. We were in

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<v Speaker 3>a room. There was a bed with someone in it.

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<v Speaker 3>You could see the form of the body, and my

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<v Speaker 3>sister was sitting on the edge of the bed, like caretaking.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was a surgical text, so she was in

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<v Speaker 3>the medical field, so that wouldn't have been too off

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<v Speaker 3>color for her to be, you know, assisting someone. And

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<v Speaker 3>she saw me and she got up and came to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and she didn't speak verbally. She spoke to me in

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<v Speaker 3>my mind and I said to her, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 3>And she was glowing just in white and blonde hair

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<v Speaker 3>and big blue eye and just beautiful, just beautiful. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I said to her, are you okay? And

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<v Speaker 3>she said back into my mind, She's like, yes, are

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<v Speaker 3>you okay? And that just has stuck with me my

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<v Speaker 3>whole life moving forward without her. It's like, I know

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<v Speaker 3>she's okay, I know where she is, she's fine, and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's okay for me to be okay with that

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<v Speaker 3>she's here, she'll visit me, She'll she'll give me little

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<v Speaker 3>clues and hints that she's around. She was a big

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<v Speaker 3>cure the Cure fan, musical fand the Cure. So about

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<v Speaker 3>two years after she had passed, I was in a

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<v Speaker 3>department store in Christmas during Christmas time, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>we're playing Christmas music, and all of a sudden it stops.

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<v Speaker 3>One of her favorite cure songs came on, played and

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<v Speaker 3>then went right back to Christmas music, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>that is such an extreme difference in music. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got you. So you know, they do give me

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<v Speaker 3>little signs and symbols. My dad passed away from love cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has visited me and told me that he's okay. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>my best friend and I were out at the Stanley

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<v Speaker 3>Hotel in Essas, Colorado or Stephen King was shining for

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<v Speaker 3>our very very first ghost hunt and he was in

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<v Speaker 3>hospice by then, but his wife said he'd want you

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<v Speaker 3>to go on the trip, so go ahead and go,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did, and there just happened to be a

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<v Speaker 3>medium out there, so I went and had a session

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<v Speaker 3>with her, and she said, there's a man coming through

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<v Speaker 3>he's like your father, but not like your father. And

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't have that close of a relationship until the end.

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<v Speaker 3>There a lot had happened. So she said, he's like

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<v Speaker 3>your father, but not your father. So I immediately understood

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<v Speaker 3>that and immediately knew that he had already passed, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course he said he was sorry for the

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<v Speaker 3>things that he's done, and he will be with me

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<v Speaker 3>and he will protect me, and you will always be

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<v Speaker 3>by my side. So it's death is something that we

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<v Speaker 3>all have to deal with. But I think it's easier

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<v Speaker 3>to understand if you know that they're still with us

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<v Speaker 3>and they're always watching over us, and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>standing by us, and you could feel them and you

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<v Speaker 3>could sense them and they give you signs. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just a wonderful thing. And that's what got

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<v Speaker 3>me into this. It's like if I could help somebody

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<v Speaker 3>feel that way, let them know that their family is

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<v Speaker 3>still here and proof, because like Lee said, with every ghost,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a story, With every location, there's a story. And

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<v Speaker 3>if we can tell that side of it and not

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, there's a demon here, that that's what

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<v Speaker 3>keeps me going and keeps me wanting to ghost hunt

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<v Speaker 3>is showing, like I said earlier, the lighter, softer side,

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<v Speaker 3>the loving side.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, Lee? Have you ever had an experience

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<v Speaker 1>like that of a past loved one.

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<v Speaker 2>I have actually for the past year, up until this

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<v Speaker 2>past August, I was battling cancer. Right after I was diagnosed,

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<v Speaker 2>there was only one cousin that I had. Her name

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<v Speaker 2>is Janis. She battled cancer for fourteen years before she

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<v Speaker 2>finally passed away to it. She was like a begen

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<v Speaker 2>of light. I mean, she was like a rock, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>She never let it get her down emotionally. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>it did physically, but she never lost her smile or

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<v Speaker 2>her sense of humor or anything like that. So after

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<v Speaker 2>I found out what I was dealing with, I just

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<v Speaker 2>told her out loud, you know, I to wish you

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<v Speaker 2>were here. I got so many questions, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember if it was that night or if it was

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<v Speaker 2>a nine or two layter. She came to me in

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<v Speaker 2>a dream, heard my grandmother. I'm standing in a parking

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<v Speaker 2>garage and all of a sudden, down come around the corner,

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<v Speaker 2>come flying around the corner was with little Toyota Corolla.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where this car came from, but my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin Janie was driving and my grandma was in the

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<v Speaker 2>passenger seat. They pulled it beside me. She got out.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandma did. She come over there and gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a big hug and I told her, I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>have missed you since you've left. I said, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>see Jennis. I ain't seen her either, you know, since

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<v Speaker 2>she died. And we walked over there and she just

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<v Speaker 2>had the most beautiful smile. Just I've never seen anybody

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<v Speaker 2>look more happy and more at peace. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up, I still felt that I still felt love,

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<v Speaker 2>I still felt every emotion that I felt in that dream,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have no doubt that they came to me

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<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, you know what, You're going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And another experience that I had that I find kind

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<v Speaker 2>of odd. My father passed away nine years ago to

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<v Speaker 2>be ten years in May, and during the whole cancer battle,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him, I said, are you really there for me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not kidding. This is the very same day

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<v Speaker 2>my iPhone and when it comes to phone, it's technology

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it, but it popped up with the

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<v Speaker 2>memory of pictures of my dad, all of my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, he'd been gone for nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>And to figure that for that one particular day, for

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<v Speaker 2>that memory production to come on is when I needed

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<v Speaker 2>it most. So I have no doubt that my family

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<v Speaker 2>was there with me through the entire cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm getting a little emotional because I've had the

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<v Speaker 1>same experience. I had a twin brother who had died

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<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack ten years ago, and it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a couple of months and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, I had a vivid dream where I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself in just this white It looked like a bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>with all white subway child but there was no urinals

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<v Speaker 1>and dolls, just some columns, but it was all white.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned and there was my brother standing

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<v Speaker 1>there smiling at me. Now, it's like what Lee mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think that you know right away, you would like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hug em or you know, be all excited or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother and I had a very interesting close relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>This shows you what our relationship was. Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>turned and looked at him with a smirk, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's above fucking time you showed.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But then I know we had a conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember it, and then he's appeared a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times since, although it's been a very long time. I

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<v Speaker 1>also lost my spouse three years ago, and they've appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in my dreams a couple of times, very vividly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't get visitations. I think they've gone off

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<v Speaker 1>to do something else and said, you're on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I totally get the experience. It's wonderful when

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<v Speaker 1>it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>What's amazing about it? Though? You said you don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation, but I would be willing a bit. You

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<v Speaker 2>still remember what you felt the emotion?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I was overwhelmed with emotion. But yeah, still

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if I was went under hypnosis, might babe, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I might remember it. But I think it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where you're supposed to keep it in

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<v Speaker 1>your subconscious. Yes. So, so you mentioned Regina the first

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<v Speaker 1>place you were investigating. You know what other types of

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<v Speaker 1>things did you experience there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when we were at the Stanley Hotel, and again

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<v Speaker 3>my sister had passed like at that time, it was

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<v Speaker 3>probably going on close to three years. I actually was

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<v Speaker 3>there with the Ghost Adventures crew believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>It was before they got really really big and they

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<v Speaker 3>were doing, you know, hosting ghost investigations. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>in the room with Aaron Goodwin and we were doing

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<v Speaker 3>an EVP session and I always laugh and Lease heard

419
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<v Speaker 3>the story many times. My claim to fame is like

420
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I was sitting on the bed with Aaron Goodwins. I

421
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, it's in the bed of the Aaron Goodman.

422
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, we had a recorder running that was on

423
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 3>the dresser, and after we got done investigating and went home,

424
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 3>we actually listened to the recorder and I got three

425
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 3>EVPs that were all the same male voice, and one

426
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 3>said my sister's name, which was Nicki, the second one's

427
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 3>and the first one said where are they? The second

428
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.279
<v Speaker 3>one said my sister's name, Nikki, and then the third

429
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.440
<v Speaker 3>one said Nicki's death. And I knew, I knew there

430
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>couldn't be any other explanation but that she was there.

431
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 3>Maybe she didn't know how to communicate, she communicated through

432
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.240
<v Speaker 3>this person, or this person was maybe her guide, but

433
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I knew they were for me. I mean, that's not

434
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 3>a Marryer or a Wendy or you know, it was Nicky.

435
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 3>It clearly said NICKI and.

436
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Which is not as popular as the other name.

437
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.279
<v Speaker 3>No, no oh, And I actually have those EVPs up

438
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 3>on our website if anybody would like to listen to them.

439
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was amazing and we were I remember

440
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 3>me and my friend were like down listening to the

441
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>record and we heard it. We just popped up and

442
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 3>we looked at each other and I was like, tell

443
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 3>me you heard what I heard? And she's like, yes,

444
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 3>that said your sister's name, and we were just like

445
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 3>it just like blows your mind when you get an

446
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.640
<v Speaker 3>e VP that just is like so clear and so

447
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 3>distinctively for you, and it's wild and you're like, yes,

448
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 3>thank you, thank you, thank you.

449
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I either for you or intelligent response to a question, Yes,

450
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:53.640
<v Speaker 1>those are always fantastic. Lee, What about you? What? What?

451
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>What first investigation did you do?

452
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>The first investigation I ever did was actually an ambulance

453
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>service that I worked for. I told you about my

454
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>friend that I worked with, you know, she had gotten

455
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>into it. It just so happened that in the ambulance

456
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>bay for over a year there was an ambulance that

457
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>had been wrecked, and in that accident, they lost the

458
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>patient and one of the crew members so we you know,

459
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it just sat kind of sealed in

460
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>this one bay area. So we sat there and just

461
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>trying to get different responses. We never did get anything

462
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>as far as an EVP or anything like that. But

463
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I do remember about it was,

464
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and this kind of introduced me to the hell empathics

465
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>out of it is feeling the emotion that was there.

466
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>It was so heavy, It was so overwhelmingly heavy. It's

467
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>almost like somebody took a black shroud and just threw

468
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it over my head, you know, and just kind of

469
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>put me in the blackness. But that was the first

470
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>investigation that I ever did with anybody else, And as

471
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>far as EVANDEN, we didn't get a lot. It was

472
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 2>just everything in here that I can't validate. It's just

473
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>what I know that I felt. The first public investigation

474
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I ever went on, I did have my voice recorder

475
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>tossed off of a headstone and hit somebody in the

476
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>foot during the investigation. So that right there was what

477
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>was really eye opening. I didn't get it actually flying

478
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>off on video, but I got the person as it

479
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>hit their foot and you could actually hear it slide

480
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>across the headstone. On the voice recorder itself.

481
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I'll tell you what got me into it.

482
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I moved here to New Jersey going on twenty six

483
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and the house I lived in, which was

484
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 1>an old thirties converted cabin in a lake community, and

485
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>they there was activity, and it was one of the

486
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 1>things where I started to look at not just haunted houses,

487
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>but things that may be attached to the land, because

488
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I know there were a few houses in my neighborhood

489
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that had activity and I was seeing lights, I heard

490
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>my name being called, and it was fascinated me. I

491
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 1>started filming with an old, just regular white light super

492
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>VHS camera. I caught multiple things, including this thing I

493
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>call a flying sock, which looks like a tadpole. In

494
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the video, you see this orb go across the screen,

495
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>go behind a rocking chair across the room, then shoot out,

496
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and as it shoots out, it's tadpole shaped, bulbous head

497
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to a tail and about this big and it goes

498
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>flying right past me into the kitchen. And even though

499
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I was mostly watching the screen, I saw my peripheral

500
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 1>vision go through there. So I had a local paranormal

501
00:29:55.160 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 1>team come in investigate. I was hooked join them. Years later,

502
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I formed my own group and I've been investigating for

503
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>over twenty years.

504
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's awesome to see something onlike your you know,

505
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 3>number one in your house, but number two like to

506
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>capture it is amazing too, because you know how many

507
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>times all of us have been on investigations and stuff

508
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>happens and you're just like, damn, I didn't have my

509
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 3>camera setup or or I didn't have my recorder running,

510
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>and it just is like, I mean, nobody could take

511
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 3>those experiences away from you. But it's like, oh, I

512
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't capture it.

513
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, that would lead into this, what is your preferred

514
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>method for investigation? When you get a place you're going

515
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to investigate, how do you approach it? How many people,

516
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 1>what kind of equipment? What works best for you? Go hadly.

517
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean depending on how many people. It just

518
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 2>depends on the location itself, you know. I mean I

519
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to you know, have people in there, you know,

520
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>but to go and not be able to actually enjoy

521
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 2>the investigation, you know, without wondering, Okay, is that contamination?

522
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that that somebody over here passing gas and you

523
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>never know, you know, I'm going to keep it kind

524
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 2>of under control as far as the investigation. The equipment, again,

525
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>it just it all depends. I've got kind of like

526
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a baseline a few things. Regina makes fun of me

527
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 2>because I always overpack the equipment box. But I do

528
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 2>definitely want a few rimpods. I like to have some

529
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>K two's just for other people to use. I love

530
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>it when other people are hands on and they actually

531
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>tell me about their experiences as it's happening, because you know,

532
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 2>you never know who the spirit or entity might want

533
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you. They may not like me, but

534
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>they may love Regina. Like I said, I mean, it

535
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>just all just depends on where we are. I mean,

536
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things that I have, and it's

537
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 2>a love hate thing. It's my sols. I love it,

538
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>but damn that thing is heavy. I built it myself

539
00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and I was working for the fire department at the

540
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 2>time as a paramedic, and it was about twenty degrees

541
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>outside and I picked up an overtime shift and I

542
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>had just got my last component. I'm like, you know what,

543
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take this thing with me and I'll take

544
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 2>it to the fire hall and that's where I put

545
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 2>it together. The captain who was actually there. He said,

546
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>do you mind if I ask what that is? And

547
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I told him what it is and he says, that's

548
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. He says, I think I've seen one once

549
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>before me and my wife went on an investigation. So

550
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of, you know, drawn into it. So

551
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>as I powered that thing up at the fire hall,

552
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>it's it's on a center block wall, that's what it

553
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>shined on. And there was a stick figure on that wall.

554
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And I asked him, I said, cap, I said, do

555
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>you see what I'm saying? And he's like, yeah, you

556
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 2>know that. I said, there's nothing in there that it

557
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>could be. It's a blank wall. So he's sitting here

558
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's like hi, and it would throw an arm up,

559
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>you know. So we just kind of, you know, just

560
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 2>set there and investigated with that for a little bit.

561
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sorry, I'm gonna wrap this up. I know

562
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking a lot. But so anyway, what was really

563
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>incredible about it He actually tried to approach the stick

564
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>figure and if it was gone, you know, we didn't

565
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.839
<v Speaker 2>find it anymore. So we were looking around the fire

566
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 2>houlow never to find it. And I told him, I said,

567
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I've got an idea. I wouldn't get my partner, who

568
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 2>was female, so I asked her. I said, hey, Erica,

569
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, come out here. I want to ask you

570
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>to do me a favor. And she came out and I

571
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>explained to her what was going on. Well, anyway, there

572
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was three chairs set up. She was in the middle chair.

573
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 2>The captain on the engine. He came out and he said,

574
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 2>in the chair, if I was facing him, it would

575
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>have been to my right and to the left. There

576
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>was a stick figure beside her. It was sitting back

577
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>had if you could tell, it's like what's crossed, and

578
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 2>his arm was like this right here. He was out

579
00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>there like them with the best of us. And I've

580
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>still got that video as well, and that's one of

581
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>my favorite things that I've ever captured, just because it was,

582
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, at work. I wasn't expecting that. But that

583
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>also got made to learning a lot of investigations at

584
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>the fire halls and they'll turn up something anyway. I'm sorry,

585
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Please go ahead, Rein fine.

586
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 1>You're fine, no problem, no problem. You know, as far

587
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>as equipment goes, I personally find when you stick to

588
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the basics, I mean, there's lots of good toys out

589
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 1>there to play with. Some just kind of are repetitive.

590
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't trust apps that are on phone or tablets

591
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>because they can be pre programmed. You know, they're for

592
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 1>entertainment purposes only. I like a rempod. I like my

593
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I have trifield meters. But you know what, just a

594
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 1>good night vision camera, still camera and a digital recorder.

595
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>That's all you really need. And trust me, people, when

596
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you're you see these shows or they have like multiple

597
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>cameras set up, they got maybe eight cameras set up

598
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>in a location. The one thing they never really show

599
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you in this is you have if those each of

600
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>those cameras ran for like six hours, you have to

601
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 1>watch six hours footage from every single camera and it

602
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>is boring, boring, boring, but you hope for that one

603
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>instant you capture something that's exciting exactly.

604
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the hardest part that people don't understand is the

605
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 3>evidence review. And especially with the TV shows, it's like, oh,

606
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 3>that's all they got when they were there, and it's like, well, yeah,

607
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 3>but they had eight hours, ten cameras, eight hours each

608
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 3>of footage that they had to roll through. It's a lot.

609
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's that's The thing about investigation, people don't understand

610
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the dedication it takes. It's not just going out and

611
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 1>hoping you have some experiences, because a lot of times

612
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you won't. But then maybe you will capture something on

613
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>your equipment later. And I find EVPs are one of

614
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the things that fascinate me the most. I mean, whether

615
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>they're intelligent or not, it's just to get a human

616
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:07.079
<v Speaker 1>voice that is not coming from anywhere. It's digital recorders,

617
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 1>not picking up radio waves. I used to have a

618
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineer on my team, so he used to always

619
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>go through and explain it like, Nope, that can't happen.

620
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And I've I've heard, I've been cussed out one time.

621
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I can call the son of a bitch. I've got men, women,

622
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>other voices. The other thing is tell me your opinion

623
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>on this. And a lot of the shows, especially old

624
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>ghost Hunters and even present day Ghost Adventures, they use

625
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>those old sony recorders that drive me crazy because they're

626
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>so staticky and garbled. And yet I think they use

627
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>them because they think they're getting more EVPs. And most

628
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of the time when they're playing it your garbage. If

629
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I want an EVP, I want it to be crystal clear,

630
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 1>even if it's faint. I mean, I don't know what's

631
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 1>your opinion.

632
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, we see them use all different kinds of

633
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 3>voice recorders, and I think it's just where the level

634
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 3>and the vibration and the and the voice falls within

635
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>those parameters, because I've had some Class aevps that are crystal,

636
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 3>crystal clear, there's no denying it what it's saying. And

637
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 3>then you get some that are are mumbled and jarbled,

638
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and you know, the voice is not anybody that was

639
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>in the room, especially with me, like being an all

640
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 3>female team, when we get male voices, I mean, there's

641
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 3>nobody in the room faking a man's voice, I think.

642
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And again it could be, and we won't know until

643
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 3>we're over there. But maybe it's the age of the spirit.

644
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's the the intelligent of the spirit.

645
00:37:58.639 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

646
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe some can come through easier than others can come through.

647
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Some don't know how to come through yet it just

648
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 3>becomes a muffled. But again, how do you explain a

649
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 3>spirit who doesn't have a voice box.

650
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>To be talking, especially when you're right there and you

651
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>don't hear it, but the electronic device picks it up. Yes,

652
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 1>and that's the one thing that always fascinates me. Is

653
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 1>it because of a different range of frequency that it's

654
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>able to pick up and we can't hear it, But

655
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>then when you're playing it back you technically we wouldn't

656
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to hear it either if it was totally

657
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>different frequency.

658
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 3>But is it kind of like the light spectrum too,

659
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, we see these cameras that can can

660
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 3>detect different light spectrums, and you see it on the camera,

661
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 3>but you don't see it with your own eyes because

662
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>we can't see that spectrum of light. Is the sound

663
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 3>and the voice waves the same, that's side we can

664
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 3>hear and some we can't.

665
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Something that I would really like an engineer to talk

666
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>about about recorders and if they could do pick up

667
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 1>more in those spectrums than what we hear, And if

668
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it does pick something up, can it play it back

669
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 1>in a way that we can hear it. I mean,

670
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be the case, but I'd like to

671
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>know because if that doesn't happen, then there's a definite

672
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 1>different phenomenon going on that we can't explain.

673
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 2>One thing I would like to touch on, if you

674
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 2>don't mind. You were talking about picking up human voices.

675
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, anybody that watches your show, I'd love for

676
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>them to pay attention on non human voices. And when

677
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I say that, I don't mean go dark or anything

678
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>like that. But one of my favorite vps I've ever captured,

679
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and I want your opinion on this as well. Reginas

680
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>heard it. It was at a plantation, a plantation called Rosemont,

681
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and they were famous for thoroughbred horses. They would read

682
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Thoroughbred horses. I don't know if you're familiar with the

683
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Derby winners, but they breathed the secretariut. Okay, there

684
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>had not been a horse on this property in well

685
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>over twenty years. The town grew up around it because

686
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, the land got smaller and smaller. They kept

687
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 2>selling it up piece by piece, held an investigation there

688
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>what not. And I was in the office of the

689
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>guy that owned it. And there's Clear's day and you

690
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 2>could hear it on one of my video cameras as

691
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:26.639
<v Speaker 2>well as the bush recorder, a big horse winning and

692
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it sounded like it was just like right outside and

693
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I played that we were actually doing

694
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 2>a public event, and everybody's like, was that a horse?

695
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like satted like a horse. Lets we want it?

696
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 2>You know. We played it back a couple of times

697
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and it was Clear's day. So I mean, I'm sure

698
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that it was probably you know, residual, probably just because

699
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>of the whole property itself. But the fact that I

700
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>caught a horse and you know that it was on

701
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 2>that property at one point in history, I don't know.

702
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I just love that. What do you think about like

703
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>animal voices and such?

704
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this is going to lead into something else.

705
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But what I think we're dealing with in cases like that,

706
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 1>even sometimes with the human EVPs we capture, may not

707
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>necessarily be a spirit. I've been really doing a lot

708
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of research lately into time slips and overlapping times impure

709
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 1>because there's the theory that all time is really happening

710
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>at once. It's not linear, so conditions can sometimes be

711
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>right for something from another time come through. Perfect example,

712
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I was investigating an old grissmill here in New Jersey

713
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>called the Red and Mill. It's a big museum, and

714
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>right next door was a rock quarry that went back

715
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>into the eighteen hundreds, and we caught so much of

716
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's at this museum. It was incredible But one

717
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 1>thing was interesting is on my video camera I had

718
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>up on the fourth floor. It's me in front of

719
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the camera. You can see me talking, and all of

720
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, there's this loud boom, this explosion. I didn't

721
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 1>hear it. It came up on the camera. And then

722
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 1>when I'm reserviewing it, I realized they had a dynamite

723
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>shack they used to blast and I think that's what

724
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I caught. It wasn't anything in the nearby town, not

725
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a car backfiring. It had that deep resonance of an explosion,

726
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, some people call that residual, and

727
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm beginning to have different ideas on residual these days.

728
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Some people talk about the stone tape theory that what's

729
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in the ground, crystal granite, running water, whatever, collects energy

730
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and repeats it. And I don't know, just my opinion.

731
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You can tell me your thoughts on it is. It's

732
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>not like that. It's really another a past event happening

733
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in real time that leads through into our time.

734
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, I can I can see that. Would

735
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>it fall along the same lines as reincarnation, like you've

736
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 3>you've lived another life and you're coming across the same

737
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 3>people and the same spiritual soul family and and you know,

738
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>you're just on a different dimension now than you were before.

739
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 3>And do those ever overlap and that's why you're meeting

740
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 3>the same people like like are we just in layers?

741
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's sometimes it makes my head hurt

742
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. But another example of for this theory,

743
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll move on is my friend in the UK, Ireen,

744
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's a very very sensitive and one

745
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>time she was touring a house they were looking to buy,

746
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and she went upstairs by herself, opened up the door

747
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of the room and there is this woman in Edwardian

748
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 1>period made clothing servants, clothing working and when she opened

749
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the door, that person looked at her. They locked eyes,

750
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>both of their jaws dropped open in surprise, and then

751
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the woman vanished. So what would be more logical if

752
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna use Akham's rasor here that it's Some people

753
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>would say it's a spirit of a servant who died.

754
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>They don't know they died and they're going about doing

755
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>their business or whatever. Or was it a momentary slip

756
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 1>in time and dimensions where two very much living breathing

757
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 1>human beings actually saw each other for a brief moment

758
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and before the phenomenon went away.

759
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>In a mind of another experience I had with my partner.

760
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>And I know I'm long on telling stories. I don't

761
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 2>want to bring that up, but you just brought that up.

762
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's possible. I do truly believe that it

763
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 3>is possible.

764
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's so much we don't know. I keep learning.

765
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>After all these years, I keep learning, So I know

766
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that's something we all do. So let's talk about things

767
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 1>that you've experienced or certain investigations. What is your favorite

768
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 1>either location experience, what has really made you go wow.

769
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:07.920
<v Speaker 3>There's so many, Like after so many years, there's so

770
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 3>so many. Obviously, the Stanley Hotel was a wow moment

771
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 3>for me to actually get that personalized message. I was

772
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 3>at the Limp Mansion in Saint Louis and that was

773
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 3>the first time I ever heard my name on come

774
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 3>over on a spirit box Claire's Day, said Regina. I

775
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 3>mean that was like a wow moment. Wow, they know

776
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 3>that I'm here, Like these ones can actually interact and

777
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 3>see me. It's not you know, just you know, on

778
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>a repeat or residual or whatever. You want to call

779
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 3>it wow. I mean I've I've had experiences where I've

780
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 3>been touched. I've had experiences where I've only heard something

781
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 3>in my ear and nobody else has. I mean, there's

782
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 3>just I can't nail down just one because so many

783
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 3>after so many years. But also like working with a

784
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 3>historian and validating that, you know, the spirit that we're

785
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 3>speaking with was an actual person, that's pretty amazing as well.

786
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Sure what about Yulik.

787
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 2>One of the first investigations I did with Regina was

788
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>actually at the wash Show out in Virginia City, Nevada.

789
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I met her just a couple of

790
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>times at a public event that you know, they allowed

791
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 2>us to have at their facility. So I didn't know

792
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 2>really anything about her. I mean, I thought, this woman's

793
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of hateful. I don't know if she likes me

794
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>or not. You know, I was kind of, you know,

795
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 2>towing the line around her. So anyway, we started investigating

796
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and in the old wash Show club, we were in

797
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the Ladies of the Night, that's what they

798
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 2>prefer to be called in the office, miss Julia. So

799
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>we're in there and I'm trying to elicit a response

800
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and and this, this whole moment was the wow wow factor.

801
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to elicit a response. I'm in there calling

802
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 2>out to Miss Julia, saying that I would like to,

803
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, set up some ladies in the night for

804
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the night. Regina looks at me, and what I remember

805
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 2>so much, it wasn't Regina, but I mean it was

806
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>her body or physical body looked at me and and

807
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 2>almost a different voice said, you're lying. I said what?

808
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 2>And she said, you are lying. She turned towards me

809
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and started getting borderline aggressive, and her teammates and one

810
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 2>of my teammates they kind of, you know, just got

811
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>her out of that room and what we got out

812
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and Regina's like, I what happened?

813
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 1>You know?

814
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>And that was kind of like a wild factor. But

815
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 2>what was wow about it is because what I was,

816
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt that I was talking to Miss Julia,

817
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and because it definitely wasn't Regina. And that is when

818
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I saw Regina as much more than just an investigator

819
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and a friend. It's like our connection was made.

820
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, Regina, have you ever channeled like that before?

821
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 3>One other time before that, I was at Saint Albans

822
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 3>in Radford, Virginia, was in the same asylum, and there

823
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 3>was three of us that went into a room and

824
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 3>it was set up like a school room with a

825
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 3>chalkboard in desks. The other two investigators went off to

826
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 3>one side, sat down and were starting a spirit box session.

827
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was actually at the chalkboard, just kind of doodling,

828
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 3>and I could hear them turn on the spirit box.

829
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.440
<v Speaker 3>And I was in there for nine minutes and thirty

830
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 3>seven seconds only because my recorder was running for that long,

831
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 3>and it started to sound like I was in a tunnel,

832
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and I could hear them, but they kept getting farther

833
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>and farther away. They said I did not respond to

834
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 3>them calling my name. I was just at the chalkboard,

835
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 3>just still holding the chalkboard, facing it, and they said

836
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I finally turned around and my face was not my face,

837
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 3>it was somebody else, and they scooped me up and

838
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 3>took me out of the building. I don't remember we

839
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 3>were on the second floor. I don't remember going down

840
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 3>the stairs. I don't remember going outside. All I remember

841
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 3>is hearing them. But it kept getting farther and farther away,

842
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 3>so I think something was trying to either enter me

843
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 3>or had entered me and was trying to take over

844
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 3>channel through me. I don't know, but those are the

845
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 3>only two instances where I had something like that happen.

846
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 3>And with the one with Lee was it was very

847
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 3>very intense feeling like I knew I was there, but

848
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know I was speaking. And all I could

849
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 3>think of was he is soliciting, but he's lying because

850
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have the money to give to me. And

851
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 3>that's why I was almost up in his space, like.

852
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 2>You're a liar, you are really aggressive. I'm backing up

853
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 2>from it.

854
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so only twice.

855
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>That's enough.

856
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't really prefer it something that I looked that happened,

857
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 3>but it has happened.

858
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Now.

859
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 3>I do have instances where the more and longer that

860
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I investigate, I do start to over the past few years,

861
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 3>get things that just and only for simple terms is

862
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 3>they just pop in my head and I've learned to

863
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>just say them because I think that's a way of

864
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 3>them communicating, Like what's your name? And I'll say a name,

865
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, where are you at? Oh, I'm standing over here?

866
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Like does things just pop into my head just like

867
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 3>answers or things that I wouldn't know about the location

868
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 3>pop into my head and I've just learned to say

869
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 3>them out loud. So I don't know if that is

870
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 3>a form of channeling. I'm not sure.

871
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced that though, too, and sometimes I look at

872
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it as downloaded knowledge. I'll be in a location, a

873
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>name will come to me. I'm not psychic by any means,

874
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I have received downloads of information while

875
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm in places, and I've been able to validate it later. Right,

876
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 1>So that's again something else that's really fascinating.

877
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I think that certain people, and this is just my opinion,

878
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 3>when you go into a location, certain people are like

879
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 3>beacons of light to them. They can see them more clearly.

880
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 3>The spirits can see us. Lee, you see us more clearly.

881
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Know that we're more open to communication than other people,

882
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, because some people go in there and they're

883
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>very closed off. And it's like you have to go in,

884
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, with an open mind and an open heart. Yes,

885
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 3>be protected, but go in with an open minded, an

886
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 3>open heart, and willing to receive those messages. And we're

887
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 3>just like beacons. We're like, oh, let me go over

888
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.239
<v Speaker 3>here and talk to these people because I can see them.

889
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 3>I can hear them. Where these people I can't or

890
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 3>don't even know that they're there.

891
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you, either of you, ever experimented with which I

892
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 1>have not. I forget what they call it, where they

893
00:52:54.599 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>have a person sitting down blindfolded with noise canceling headphone.

894
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 3>That's his method.

895
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, and you have used that?

896
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yeah, I've actually done it with two people using

897
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 3>two separate spirit boxes and getting the same responses.

898
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

899
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 2>That was the house, wasn't every gena?

900
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>That was actually at the Old Stone Jail?

901
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay on the museum side.

902
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. You said that you've never dealt with

903
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>anything you considered demonic, but have you what is your

904
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:51.119
<v Speaker 1>most let's say, intense experience that maybe wasn't that pleasant,

905
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe not demonic per se, but maybe even

906
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 1>let's say a pissed off ghost. Have you ever dealt

907
00:53:57.880 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 1>with that?

908
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, mon was miss Julia, I'll revert back to that again.

909
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Came through with Regina. I thought she was gonna push

910
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 2>me out a window, So that's probably one.

911
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

912
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've come across some nasty people, and again

913
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 3>you have to think if they were not nice in life,

914
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 3>then they're not going to be nice in death. We've

915
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 3>all obviously all been told to get the fuck out.

916
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.719
<v Speaker 3>You know. Lee and I were just on an investigation

917
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 3>a few months ago where we had through the spirit box.

918
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 3>It was like shut the fuck up, like it literally said,

919
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 3>shut the fuck up. Male, and with with me and

920
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 3>Lee talking, it didn't. It didn't like us and didn't

921
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 3>want us to be there. I've had instances where I've

922
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, had unwanted touch and it just just like,

923
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 3>don't do that, You're not allowed to. But never anything

924
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 3>that I would consider demonic. Just nasty people, not happy people.

925
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Right right?

926
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Have you have you had anything like that? I'm just

927
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:08.960
<v Speaker 2>curious me. Yeah, I hearing your stories as well. It

928
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 2>really did.

929
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>H Yes, one of the very first investigations I did

930
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 1>with the first team I joined, we investigated a house

931
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 1>out on Long Island and.

932
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 2>No, no, okay, I had to ask.

933
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Long Island is huge by the way the we were

934
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I was very skeptical going in because there was something

935
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>about this guy that just screamed he wanted attention, and

936
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't think anything was going to happen. Well,

937
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I started feeling this pressure in my chest and an

938
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 1>anxiety that I couldn't explain, and then I went upstairs

939
00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:03.079
<v Speaker 1>and feeling was overwhelming, and it was one of the

940
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>first times I realized something didn't want me.

941
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:06.239
<v Speaker 2>There.

942
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I was with a couple of other female members, one

943
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of them who was very sensitive, and she was telling

944
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.400
<v Speaker 1>me that there was a man who didn't like me,

945
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 1>felt threatened by me because he didn't like other men

946
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 1>around him, and was trying to get me to leave.

947
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And at one point, the one and only time I

948
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>ever had to leave and go outside, and once I

949
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 1>did that, it all evaporated. So then when I went

950
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 1>back inside it started again. But I knew what I

951
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 1>was up against, so I kind of was able to

952
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 1>put up my defenses, push back a little bit and

953
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 1>say I'm not going anywhere. So that was a real

954
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>intense experience. There was another one where I was investigating

955
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 1>a house here in Jersey where they said they were

956
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 1>experiencing some extreme activemty. The mother said she was pushed

957
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 1>down the stairs once her kids were having horrible nightmares.

958
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>And we went there just to do a preliminary, me

959
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and one other investigator, and as we're there, I had

960
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 1>that exact same feeling again. Something was trying to get

961
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>me to leave. The other investigator got hit by an

962
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>electric shock that was not static electricity, and it was very,

963
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 1>very interesting. So when we finished, we walked out into

964
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 1>the driveway to the car to talk a little bit.

965
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 1>It followed us outside. I was still trying to get

966
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>us to leave, so I finally we got our cars

967
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and as I drove away, then it dissipated. Now, ironically,

968
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 1>when we went back with our team it hit, it

969
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't come out. So that's the one thing people need

970
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to understand too with investigating. These things don't perform on command. Now,

971
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>they could like dormant, don't want to deal with you,

972
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and then occasionally come out and do things.

973
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Somebody I work with they asked me, They says, how

974
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 2>do you know that these ghosts are not just sitting

975
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Speaker 2>around washing TV. You walk in and they're like, oh crap,

976
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I got to get up and do some ghost shit.

977
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Now they're back.

978
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 1>You know.

979
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know what, I think it exactly what

980
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about. You're right, they're not performers people.

981
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 1>I also think time works differently for them. They're not

982
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>like like us. In this type of consciousness. I think

983
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a type of dream state. They still have

984
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 1>a type of consciousness, they can react to things, but

985
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I think time moves differently for them. So one last

986
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.639
<v Speaker 1>question I wanted to get out to you. Now, I

987
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 1>know you don't investigate private homes, Lee, does have you

988
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 1>ever investigated old caves or minds? Yes?

989
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:22.480
<v Speaker 3>We were actually asked to be guest investigators at the

990
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:23.320
<v Speaker 3>bell Witch Cave.

991
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Of all places, Okay, and.

992
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 3>If people aren't familiar with the bell Witch Cave, it

993
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:36.320
<v Speaker 3>was the first documented ghost paranormal experience in the US

994
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.679
<v Speaker 3>long history, you can look it up. Anyway. We were

995
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 3>tasked to camp out in the actual cave all night,

996
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 3>and we had some stuff happen. I mean Lee had

997
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 3>more things happen, but we did hear things, we did

998
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 3>experience things. I'll let Lee tell you his experiences that

999
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:03.880
<v Speaker 3>he had. But the bottom line be came when we

1000
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 3>left the cave and we were warned not to take

1001
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 3>anything with us, which we did, and we didn't take

1002
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 3>any rocks or anything. A lot of people do and

1003
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:13.559
<v Speaker 3>have to return them. It was really odd because Lee

1004
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 3>had some stuff happened at his home afterwards. But we

1005
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:21.760
<v Speaker 3>both got really, really sick, like sick from being in

1006
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:24.760
<v Speaker 3>that cave for had to be at least ten hours.

1007
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Lee.

1008
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, more like we were. You know, different groups would

1009
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 3>come in and we do our session, and but we

1010
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 3>did find some interesting stuff and Lee can tell you about.

1011
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.840
<v Speaker 2>That well as far as the evidence that we captured.

1012
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:41.239
<v Speaker 2>One of the best things that we captured. I don't

1013
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>know how much you know about the story of Kate

1014
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Bess the Wide Shift Tennessee. She was a shape shifter

1015
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of reports said that she would shape

1016
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 2>shift into a four legged animal. Look a big world

1017
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 2>for adult One video that we have. I've got a

1018
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 2>still camera set up and it showed Regina's then and

1019
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 2>they're just steelers can be holding a voice recorder. Everybody

1020
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 2>in there is when we investigate, everybody sits to you know,

1021
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and if somebody does maybe you know, we announced what

1022
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that he is, you know, whether it's a noise or whatever.

1023
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 2>On the shadow on the wall behind Regina. You could

1024
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:19.480
<v Speaker 2>see very clearly a four legged shadow just go across

1025
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the screen behind Regina. And we shouted to the people

1026
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 2>that were actually hosting it and they're like, you know,

1027
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 2>just jaw dropped in. Wow. Another personal experience that I

1028
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 2>had during that that not I was pissed at Regina

1029
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and everybody in that cave. Once you walk into the cave,

1030
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>it's got about a corridor, I don't know, about fifty

1031
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 2>yards long and it's about this wide, you know, and

1032
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just solid rock all around. While we were in

1033
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.599
<v Speaker 2>the cave, there was a pretty bad thunderstorm and we

1034
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.559
<v Speaker 2>kept everybody in there instead of trying to get back

1035
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>up the hill out. We just kept everybody in the

1036
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 2>cave during the storm, which knocked trees down, branches down,

1037
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and everything else. Of course. But I went out to

1038
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the cave entrance to have a cigarette, you know, because

1039
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.400
<v Speaker 2>they had a little overhang. While I'm sitting out there

1040
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 2>by myself to the right, I see this. It's almost

1041
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 2>like a ball of smoke. And it came up the

1042
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:11.039
<v Speaker 2>hill in front of me, went across to me and

1043
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<v Speaker 2>then down to the river. And I'm just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>s done. So I screaming to the cave. Regina. Nothing, Regina, nothing.

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01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And I yelled in that cave, Regina, and I'm screaming,

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01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and like I said, it's all just solid rock. So

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01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell? So I went in there

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<v Speaker 2>and I went in there and I said, Regina, I said,

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01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 2>where the hell y'all being They're like, what are you

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01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about? I said, you did not hear me screaming?

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01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 2>And they said, no, we didn't hear anything. Regina says

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01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't hear anything, although I still wonder about that.

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<v Speaker 3>There was like eight of us in the cave and

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01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 3>we did not hear him yelling at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Being out there by myself, you know, it kind of

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01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:50.639
<v Speaker 2>freaked me out what I saw with this little ball

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01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 2>of smoke. So I just wanted somebody else to come out,

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01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and she never, she never came. She left me there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Well, I'll tell you one story. I was in

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01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Colorado several years ago visiting my family and outside of

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01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Colorado Springs, actually going up the pass up into the mountains,

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01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.639
<v Speaker 1>there is a tourist attraction called Cave of the Winds.

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01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:23.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a natural cave system that was discovered about one

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01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:28.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago and it's been an operation ever since. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I find interesting about these types of situations like

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01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the bell Witch Cave or old mines, these types of

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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 1>places which seem to attract paranormal activity. And what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is this cave no one ever died in. No one

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01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 1>died and the Native Indians who lived in the area

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01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:01.199
<v Speaker 1>never went in it because it was so deep that

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<v Speaker 1>there's this area in the very back of the cave

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01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 1>where I investigated, that is about two hundred feet under

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01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 1>solid rock, about a thousand feet or more from the

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01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 1>main entrance, through a bunch of twists and turns and

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01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 1>lo low openings that you had to crawl through to

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01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 1>get to this open chamber at the back. And I

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01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 1>can't believe the amount of activity we caught there. Voices

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01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:38.800
<v Speaker 1>telling us to get out, growls, lots of light anomalies captured.

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01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 1>One that really fascinates me is I was filming against

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01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this rock wall, and these bright lights kept appearing in

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01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the cracks of the rocks, and they would they would

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01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 1>come in like this, and then after a moment they

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01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.760
<v Speaker 1>fade out, and then a minute or so later they

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01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 1>would appear in another part of the rock. And I

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01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 1>caught all this on video. Very clear. There's no insects,

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01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 1>because back at that part of the cave, it's sterile,

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01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:20.280
<v Speaker 1>no animals of any kind, no reflective surfaces because it

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01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 1>was limestone, not granite, and yet these lights would appear

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01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and disappear, and there was definitely something intelligent in there,

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01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:38.119
<v Speaker 1>So now begs the question, what is it. I investigated

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01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a gold mine once too, and it's the same situation.

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01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Now there people died in the mind, so you could

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01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.679
<v Speaker 1>explain it. But when you get these locations where people

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01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 1>have not died, why are there people or why are

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01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 1>their intelligences in the caves? Which leads me to another

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01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 1>topic we can talk about another time. Leads me to

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01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:06.159
<v Speaker 1>think that we're dealing with elemental type entities. You know,

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01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the old miners used to call them tommy knockers and

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01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but definitely not human, but can communicate and let you

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01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 1>know that they don't want you there.

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01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Right right where we used to have the location the

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01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Opera House here in Tennessee. Over seven years, we were

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01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.320
<v Speaker 3>told many times by different mediums that there was an

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01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 3>elemental there, and it made sense because the basement half

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01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 3>of it was still just regular dirt and it was

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01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 3>located on the trail of tears. So we know that

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01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:50.320
<v Speaker 3>the Cherokee Indians summered there and I'm sure did lots

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01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 3>of ritualistic things that could have brought something to that land.

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01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we have been told many times that there's

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01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.800
<v Speaker 3>an elemental there, and it always us to get out

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01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 3>like it doesn't want us there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not to mention Regina on the towns where you

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01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:09.000
<v Speaker 2>know the other piece of history at town had right.

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01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's home of the KKK.

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01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 2>So I had a lot of violence and tragedy there

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01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:19.159
<v Speaker 2>with that as well.

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01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a shame.

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01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's really a bloodstub town. Yeah.

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01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Well we've come to the end of the interview here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much both for being here. Regina. I'll

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01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 1>start with you, where can people find your website or

1122
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 1>if they want to contact you, what's what's the best

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01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 1>way people can do.

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<v Speaker 3>We have all the social media, we have Facebook, TikTok, Instagram.

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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 3>We do have a website. It's all listed under PPF Investigations,

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01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:54.639
<v Speaker 3>and our contact information is on especially the social media.

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01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 3>You can contact us through there. We do occasionally host

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01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.280
<v Speaker 3>public events and we've some on our social media if

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01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 3>we do. But we would love for you guys to

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01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 3>follow us and watch our journey and interact with us,

1131
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we'd love to hear from you. So

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01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:12.599
<v Speaker 3>if you have any questions, please reach out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay and Lee, just contact Regina. I'm kidding, madam. Just

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01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a view of the social platforms medics for paranormal. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the number four not spelled out Medics four paranormal on Facebook.

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01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Also medics four Paranormal at gmail dot com. And I'm

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01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.199
<v Speaker 2>not progressed at TikTok yet because, like I said earlier,

1138
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not very tech savvy, but I'm trying lowerdows. I try.

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01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear from anybody that has any questions

1140
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:44.720
<v Speaker 2>wants to reach out something that I'm about to start doing.

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01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I just to touch on this, and I'd love to

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01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 2>hear other experiences. I'm a Catholic priest who's a demonologist,

1143
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a very good friend of mine, and he asked me

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01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 2>if I would ever if needed a company on a case,

1145
01:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and I said, what do you mean by that? He said, well,

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01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to be outside just as a medical personnel

1147
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 2>in case needed, and I pulled them I would, and

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01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a new adventure coming. I've been

1149
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:10.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to do a lot of homework and research, so

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01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear from anybody on that. And

1151
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the only reason that I'm even considering doing it, The

1152
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.399
<v Speaker 2>only reason is because these people are desperate need help,

1153
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:21.600
<v Speaker 2>and if I can do anything to help, I want

1154
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:24.439
<v Speaker 2>absolutely yea, and if.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody, if anybody's in that, we're located in the middle

1156
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Tennessee area. So if you're ever interested in possibly going

1157
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 3>on a ghost hont or just have questions, please reach

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01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:37.680
<v Speaker 3>out to either of us for more than willing to

1159
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:40.760
<v Speaker 3>help bring you along or show you the ropes or

1160
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 3>whatever you need.

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01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well again, thank you both so much. This has

1162
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 1>been a great interview. I know we have a lot more,

1163
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:51.960
<v Speaker 1>many stories to tell. I'll have to have you both

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01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 1>come back sometimes.

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01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 2>We would love that.

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01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, thank you very much, thank you for having us.

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01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and that wraps up our first show of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. Thank you all for tuning in, and

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01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:10.199
<v Speaker 1>you can listen to the audio portion of this on

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01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:15.479
<v Speaker 1>our network radio station, the Paranormal UK Radio Network at

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01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 1>paukradio dot com that is also distributed to all major

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01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 1>podcast outlets like Apple, Samsung, you name it. And then

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01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of course the youtwoe is here on YouTube under Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>Lee's channel m I L I S SA L E

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<v Speaker 1>I g H. So until next time, I hope you

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01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:41.479
<v Speaker 1>all had a wonderful New Year, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be traveling into twenty twenty six and see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>from there, So until then, you all be good humans

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk with you soon
