Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best
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Hello and welcome everybody to trans Dimensional Realities. I'm your host,
Melissa Ly, and here we talk about all things strange
and weird and wonderful that is all part of our reality,
even if we don't realize it. This is our first
show of twenty twenty six and I'm really excited. This
is our third show and we've got a lot of
great guests already lined up for the next couple of months.
I'm going to try to be doing a weekly show here.
It will come out on Thursdays both on our podcast station,
Paranormal UK Radio Network or paukradio dot com. But then
the video portion is on my YouTube page, so look
up Melissa Ly the way I spell it, and you'll
see the video interviews, same interviews, but with video. I
feel it's much more personal. So I figured being the
first show of the new year, let's get down to basics.
When you think paranormal, what do you think of ghosts?
And I have been a paranormal investigator for over twenty years.
I've seen and done a lot. I've experienced a lot
of weird things, and it's always been a fascinating subject
to me, trying to figure out not only what happens
to us when we die, but also what are we
experiencing right now. People sometimes think of ghosts doing things,
and I think it's sometimes a lot more complex than that.
So in any case, we have a great couple of
guests lined up for tonight, both paranormal investigators. We have
Regina Blatt from PPF Investigations, and we have a Lee
Pig who is part of the Medics for Paranormal group.
So welcome both Regina and Lead to the program. Hi.
How are you guys?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2: Hi, thank you well.
Speaker 1: You both are paranormal investigators. So if you could tell
us a little bit about your group, how long you've
been investigating, and you know, then we'll start talking about
some really fun stuff. So Regina, why don't you go first?
Speaker 3: Okay, my name is Regina. My team is called PPF Investigations,
which is pursuing paranormal facts and there's a story behind
that which we can get into if you want. I
am going on my fifteenth year of being a paranormal investigator.
Speaker 4: I have always seen things and experiencing as a child
and as an adult, I came to learn that I
have empathic powers, and I know everybody's as different.
Speaker 3: I can actually sense and feel emotions of the living
and the dead. So that does help me when I'm
doing paranormal investigations. But yeah, I got into the field
because just about fifteen years ago, probably maybe going on
sixteen years ago, my sister committed suicide and she started
coming to me in dreams.
Speaker 1: I am so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Three years after that, my father passed away
from lung cancer and he started visiting me too, and
I thought to myself, there's more to this life than
this physical body, and I started my journey on trying
to find answers.
Speaker 1: Wow, we're going to have to talk about those two events. Yes,
for sure, I've had some experiences too, Lee, What about yourself.
Speaker 2: I've investigating for right at a ten year mark. I
need to look up exact day, but it's right at
ten years as a child growing up, I grew up.
I don't think the house was haunted per se, but
I think the land was because the whole street there
was like a rumor about every third or fourth house.
You know, we were told, okay, don't go there, that
house is haunted. The house is haunted. Then things started
happening in my home well as I grew to an
or do and started pursuing m mass. Actually I started investigator,
getting into the investigation side of it a little bit more,
trying to find out the you know, the where and
the why, if at all possible. And just like Regina said,
there there had to be more out there than what
we actually see. So during that my first job as
an ant, my partner that I worked with, she had
done it before, so we kind of you know, joined
forces for a little while and we investigated for several
years and then we parted ways. But in the meantime,
like Regina also said, I discovered that I do have
some empathica Billy as well, not like her. I don't
so much since emotion as much, but I do. I can,
and I feel confident enough to say about one hundred
percent of the time can tell if something's in the
room with us and where that person or entity is.
So then I joined up with Regina, and I got
to tell you right now, just to start, that's been
the best thing ever happened to be right there as
far as an investigator. That's why I sported into it.
My team, by the way, medics for paranormal. We were
all emergency medical services personnel trying to incorporate work into
the you know, taking care of the living and the dead,
if you will. And then, like I said, I joined
up with Regina, and I kind of feel like that
I'm almost a part of her team just you are,
and could not be more proud of her.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, the team that you run, Regina, is
mostly a female team.
Speaker 3: We are an all female team, but we're a small team,
so we do pair up with other paranormal teams a lot.
And you know, Lee, since we met, you know, he
has always been invited and has all intended almost everything
that we have been on. So and I wouldn't think
of doing any investigations without him, you know. Moving forward,
we just have a really really special bond and it's
really interesting and different for both of us because we've
never experienced that before. But I think being empathic, we
always call it like a spiritual umbilical cord. It's like
when we're together, it just amps it up even.
Speaker 1: More fantastic so let's talk about the paranormal in general. Okay,
we've gone through for the last twenty years, and I've
been investigating longer than that. The plethora of ghost shows,
ghost investigation shows, everything from Ghost Hunters, the Ghost Adventures
to Little God Knows Everything else, and most of the shows,
I'm just gonna say, oh crap, and uh, it's just
my opinion. Although I will say Ghost Adventures for just
all the issues they have, it's still make guilty pleasure
because I love.
Speaker 3: Ghak like I will be a Ghak fan forever. I
don't care how many people hate Zach. I love him.
And you have to give the man credit for twenty
seven seasons on TV. Can't fake all of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a very entertainer. But anybody that can get
that much evidence and one.
Speaker 3: Night, well they're there for three or four nights.
Speaker 2: Like you said, they're great. They're great and entertainers they are.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, it's one of the few
shows that I think really shows legitimate evidence that they capture.
I don't always agree their interpretations of that evidence, but
they are capturing and experiencing things.
Speaker 3: Okay, people have to remember too, it is TV and
they go over and above. You know, they get really
scared and it may not be that scared, but that's entertainment,
that's part of it. Yeah, I say it's right, but.
Speaker 1: I'm saying right right. Well, I was on a on
one of the shows many years ago, and that was
a horrible experience because of the producers misrepresenting evidence, cutting
things to make things look like they happen differently, abusing
my my, my clients. So yeah, I'm not a real
big fan of production companies, so I should make my
own anyway. So ghost investigations, paranormal investigations, they really have
taken off because of I think a lot of these shows,
although there are a lot of teams that go back
for decades investigating. What would you say is one of
your most fascinating things about investigating the paranormal? What really
gets you excited?
Speaker 3: I just think, like, let me back up and say
that ghost hunting is not what you see on TV.
As we all know. It's sitting in the dark for many,
many eight twelve hours and getting absolutely nothing but that
one time, that one one time when you hit something
and you get a voice or answers, and it is
amazing and that's what keeps most of us going into
this field. I was over re location, ran the ghost
hunting tours for seven years at this old it's one
of the oldest opera houses in the South, and we
just got amazing evidence out of their names and voices
and footsteps to where I could take the evidence and
go back to the historian and match it up. And
those are the types of things that excite me in
this field. It's like the spirit is giving us the
information and here I can coordinate it with a historian
to make sure that it's real. And I even had
the owners, you know, I'd come to them with with
different things that spirit gave us and they're like, how
did you know that? Nobody knows that. It's like spirit
gave it to me. Like we're hearing the same things
over and over. They're trying to communicate. But to answer
your question, I think it's that it's that one clear answer.
It's that one clear evp. It's that one clear even
if it's a yes no that is like so amazing,
or if you get a message from a loved one
that is just for you, which I have gotten those
two It's just those are the things that keep me going.
And it's not all what Hollywood makes it out to be.
It's not all you know, we're breaking out Ouiji boards
and things are flying all over the place and all
that kind of stuff. It's not that I always set
out to show and prove that there is a lighter,
loving side to this than what we see on TV.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the problem with these television shows is fear selves, yes,
and if you can make people afraid or freaked out,
they'll stay tuned in. So that's the problem with most
of these shows. That's why even with ghost Adventures, they
look at a lot of things from a negative standpoint,
because that's what keeps people tuning in to see the
freaky stuff, right, I mean, and of course, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Almost fifteen years, I've never come across a demon. Now,
I don't put myself into situations where I know there
possibly might be one, But I'm not going on there
and claiming, oh, that's a demon. That's a demon, that's
a growl, that's a you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I understand Lee. What about you.
Speaker 5: Well, one of the things that I really love about
it is the history of you know, a lot of
these locations that we go to you know, there's so
much history or so much blood soak, you know, able
to kind.
Speaker 2: Of keep it alive, keep people aware of what was
here before all of us. Somebody had told me when
I first started investigating, they said, pay attention to everything
around you. You're going to see a lot more you
know not you know, and that right, they are just
kind of rung, you know, hung true with me, and
it's the truth. For example, And this is kind of
the best example I can give of what I was
talking about. I was vacationing down in Florida at the
beach and it was an old civil war for it,
and we were camping out and we went to investig
get one of the old metal batteries that the soldiers
had used to protect the coastline back during the back
during the war days. Uh Me and my friend we
walked into this room and it was all mital room
and I said, we're not in here by ourself, and
you know, she's like really, I'm like, yeah, we're not.
We pulled out my phone and I did just a
quick burst VP session. Very first question I asked, I
got a response and it was loud enough and it
was powerful enough you could hear it reverberating off the wall,
and I wish I had it loaded up here now,
but it was just a clear, very resient Regina's heard
it is just said yes, and you know, and I
told my friend, I said, yeah, I said, there's there
was people here before and they're still here. So I
think the history of it is really what keeps me going,
you know, because I mean, I walk into a building,
I can't walk into Walmart, and I just wonder what's
in there. I'm so sorry about the smoke detector in
the next room. I don't hear it. My good, because
I'm embarrassed right now.
Speaker 1: No, we don't hear it at all.
Speaker 2: So okay, well, very good, so good. The other night,
when I was at the hospital working, I had came
out to the ambulance and I was outside of the
ambulance bay and I was standing there just talking to
my partner and there's two sets of doors. One of
them is just a regular door log just like you
got to keep had to get in, and all of
a sudden, the inside door opened up, and then the
outside door opened up from the inside. I said, do
you see that, I said, somebody just walked out They're like,
what do you mean. I said, somebody just walked out.
He says, I didn't see anybody. I said, exactly, you know,
And well, like I said, the history of it. I'm sorry,
you gotta tell me to quit talking. I know.
Speaker 1: That's what the show is for. That's why we're here
to talk about these things. And I love these types
of stories that you know, so many things happen. Part
of the reason I named the show what it is
is because all of these things are part of our reality,
and yet mainstream science and media everybody else you would
only look at it as a novelty if they believe
in it at all. But the truth is, there's so
much more going out there that we don't understand, that's
right underneath the surface. But yet it's still there with us.
And that's what fascinates me the most about the paranormal,
because there's just so much to learn and experience if
you're open to it.
Speaker 3: I agree, completely agree, Regina.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about when when your sister
passed and your father, the experiences of being visited. Could
you talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Sure, they both visit me quite often, not so as
the years go on it kind of is less and
less to say. My belief is they feel like I
don't really need them anymore, but I love to have
them around. But I had a very, very vivid dream
when my sister first came to me. We were in
a room. There was a bed with someone in it.
You could see the form of the body, and my
sister was sitting on the edge of the bed, like caretaking.
And she was a surgical text, so she was in
the medical field, so that wouldn't have been too off
color for her to be, you know, assisting someone. And
she saw me and she got up and came to me,
and she didn't speak verbally. She spoke to me in
my mind and I said to her, are you okay?
And she was glowing just in white and blonde hair
and big blue eye and just beautiful, just beautiful. And
you know, I said to her, are you okay? And
she said back into my mind, She's like, yes, are
you okay? And that just has stuck with me my
whole life moving forward without her. It's like, I know
she's okay, I know where she is, she's fine, and
now it's okay for me to be okay with that
she's here, she'll visit me, She'll she'll give me little
clues and hints that she's around. She was a big
cure the Cure fan, musical fand the Cure. So about
two years after she had passed, I was in a
department store in Christmas during Christmas time, and of course
we're playing Christmas music, and all of a sudden it stops.
One of her favorite cure songs came on, played and
then went right back to Christmas music, and I'm like,
that is such an extreme difference in music. I'm like, okay,
I got you. So you know, they do give me
little signs and symbols. My dad passed away from love cancer,
and he has visited me and told me that he's okay. Actually,
my best friend and I were out at the Stanley
Hotel in Essas, Colorado or Stephen King was shining for
our very very first ghost hunt and he was in
hospice by then, but his wife said he'd want you
to go on the trip, so go ahead and go,
and I did, and there just happened to be a
medium out there, so I went and had a session
with her, and she said, there's a man coming through
he's like your father, but not like your father. And
we didn't have that close of a relationship until the end.
There a lot had happened. So she said, he's like
your father, but not your father. So I immediately understood
that and immediately knew that he had already passed, you know.
And of course he said he was sorry for the
things that he's done, and he will be with me
and he will protect me, and you will always be
by my side. So it's death is something that we
all have to deal with. But I think it's easier
to understand if you know that they're still with us
and they're always watching over us, and they're you know,
standing by us, and you could feel them and you
could sense them and they give you signs. And I
think it's just a wonderful thing. And that's what got
me into this. It's like if I could help somebody
feel that way, let them know that their family is
still here and proof, because like Lee said, with every ghost,
there's a story, With every location, there's a story. And
if we can tell that side of it and not
be like, oh, there's a demon here, that that's what
keeps me going and keeps me wanting to ghost hunt
is showing, like I said earlier, the lighter, softer side,
the loving side.
Speaker 1: What about you, Lee? Have you ever had an experience
like that of a past loved one.
Speaker 2: I have actually for the past year, up until this
past August, I was battling cancer. Right after I was diagnosed,
there was only one cousin that I had. Her name
is Janis. She battled cancer for fourteen years before she
finally passed away to it. She was like a begen
of light. I mean, she was like a rock, you know.
She never let it get her down emotionally. Of course
it did physically, but she never lost her smile or
her sense of humor or anything like that. So after
I found out what I was dealing with, I just
told her out loud, you know, I to wish you
were here. I got so many questions, and I don't
remember if it was that night or if it was
a nine or two layter. She came to me in
a dream, heard my grandmother. I'm standing in a parking
garage and all of a sudden, down come around the corner,
come flying around the corner was with little Toyota Corolla.
I don't know where this car came from, but my
cousin Janie was driving and my grandma was in the
passenger seat. They pulled it beside me. She got out.
My grandma did. She come over there and gave me
a big hug and I told her, I said, I
have missed you since you've left. I said, let's go
see Jennis. I ain't seen her either, you know, since
she died. And we walked over there and she just
had the most beautiful smile. Just I've never seen anybody
look more happy and more at peace. And when I
woke up, I still felt that I still felt love,
I still felt every emotion that I felt in that dream,
and I have no doubt that they came to me
to say, hey, you know what, You're going to be okay.
And another experience that I had that I find kind
of odd. My father passed away nine years ago to
be ten years in May, and during the whole cancer battle,
I asked him, I said, are you really there for me?
And I'm not kidding. This is the very same day
my iPhone and when it comes to phone, it's technology
and I know it, but it popped up with the
memory of pictures of my dad, all of my dad,
and like I said, he'd been gone for nine years.
And to figure that for that one particular day, for
that memory production to come on is when I needed
it most. So I have no doubt that my family
was there with me through the entire cancer.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm getting a little emotional because I've had the
same experience. I had a twin brother who had died
of a heart attack ten years ago, and it was funny.
It took a couple of months and then all of
a sudden, I had a vivid dream where I found
myself in just this white It looked like a bathroom
with all white subway child but there was no urinals
and dolls, just some columns, but it was all white.
And I just turned and there was my brother standing
there smiling at me. Now, it's like what Lee mentioned.
You would think that you know right away, you would like, oh,
hug em or you know, be all excited or whatever.
My brother and I had a very interesting close relationship.
This shows you what our relationship was. Like I just
turned and looked at him with a smirk, and I said,
it's above fucking time you showed.
Speaker 3: Up, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then I know we had a conversation. I
can't remember it, and then he's appeared a couple of
times since, although it's been a very long time. I
also lost my spouse three years ago, and they've appeared
in my dreams a couple of times, very vividly. And
I still don't get visitations. I think they've gone off
to do something else and said, you're on your own.
But yeah, I totally get the experience. It's wonderful when
it happens.
Speaker 2: What's amazing about it? Though? You said you don't remember
the conversation, but I would be willing a bit. You
still remember what you felt the emotion?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was overwhelmed with emotion. But yeah, still
maybe if I was went under hypnosis, might babe, maybe
I might remember it. But I think it was one
of those things where you're supposed to keep it in
your subconscious. Yes. So, so you mentioned Regina the first
place you were investigating. You know what other types of
things did you experience there?
Speaker 3: Well, when we were at the Stanley Hotel, and again
my sister had passed like at that time, it was
probably going on close to three years. I actually was
there with the Ghost Adventures crew believe it or not.
It was before they got really really big and they
were doing, you know, hosting ghost investigations. So I was
in the room with Aaron Goodwin and we were doing
an EVP session and I always laugh and Lease heard
the story many times. My claim to fame is like
I was sitting on the bed with Aaron Goodwins. I
was like, oh, it's in the bed of the Aaron Goodman.
But anyway, we had a recorder running that was on
the dresser, and after we got done investigating and went home,
we actually listened to the recorder and I got three
EVPs that were all the same male voice, and one
said my sister's name, which was Nicki, the second one's
and the first one said where are they? The second
one said my sister's name, Nikki, and then the third
one said Nicki's death. And I knew, I knew there
couldn't be any other explanation but that she was there.
Maybe she didn't know how to communicate, she communicated through
this person, or this person was maybe her guide, but
I knew they were for me. I mean, that's not
a Marryer or a Wendy or you know, it was Nicky.
It clearly said NICKI and.
Speaker 1: Which is not as popular as the other name.
Speaker 3: No, no oh, And I actually have those EVPs up
on our website if anybody would like to listen to them.
But yeah, it was amazing and we were I remember
me and my friend were like down listening to the
record and we heard it. We just popped up and
we looked at each other and I was like, tell
me you heard what I heard? And she's like, yes,
that said your sister's name, and we were just like
it just like blows your mind when you get an
e VP that just is like so clear and so
distinctively for you, and it's wild and you're like, yes,
thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I either for you or intelligent response to a question, Yes,
those are always fantastic. Lee, What about you? What? What?
What first investigation did you do?
Speaker 2: The first investigation I ever did was actually an ambulance
service that I worked for. I told you about my
friend that I worked with, you know, she had gotten
into it. It just so happened that in the ambulance
bay for over a year there was an ambulance that
had been wrecked, and in that accident, they lost the
patient and one of the crew members so we you know,
like I said, it just sat kind of sealed in
this one bay area. So we sat there and just
trying to get different responses. We never did get anything
as far as an EVP or anything like that. But
the one thing that I do remember about it was,
and this kind of introduced me to the hell empathics
out of it is feeling the emotion that was there.
It was so heavy, It was so overwhelmingly heavy. It's
almost like somebody took a black shroud and just threw
it over my head, you know, and just kind of
put me in the blackness. But that was the first
investigation that I ever did with anybody else, And as
far as EVANDEN, we didn't get a lot. It was
just everything in here that I can't validate. It's just
what I know that I felt. The first public investigation
I ever went on, I did have my voice recorder
tossed off of a headstone and hit somebody in the
foot during the investigation. So that right there was what
was really eye opening. I didn't get it actually flying
off on video, but I got the person as it
hit their foot and you could actually hear it slide
across the headstone. On the voice recorder itself.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I'll tell you what got me into it.
I moved here to New Jersey going on twenty six
years ago, and the house I lived in, which was
an old thirties converted cabin in a lake community, and
they there was activity, and it was one of the
things where I started to look at not just haunted houses,
but things that may be attached to the land, because
I know there were a few houses in my neighborhood
that had activity and I was seeing lights, I heard
my name being called, and it was fascinated me. I
started filming with an old, just regular white light super
VHS camera. I caught multiple things, including this thing I
call a flying sock, which looks like a tadpole. In
the video, you see this orb go across the screen,
go behind a rocking chair across the room, then shoot out,
and as it shoots out, it's tadpole shaped, bulbous head
to a tail and about this big and it goes
flying right past me into the kitchen. And even though
I was mostly watching the screen, I saw my peripheral
vision go through there. So I had a local paranormal
team come in investigate. I was hooked join them. Years later,
I formed my own group and I've been investigating for
over twenty years.
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome to see something onlike your you know,
number one in your house, but number two like to
capture it is amazing too, because you know how many
times all of us have been on investigations and stuff
happens and you're just like, damn, I didn't have my
camera setup or or I didn't have my recorder running,
and it just is like, I mean, nobody could take
those experiences away from you. But it's like, oh, I
didn't capture it.
Speaker 1: Well, that would lead into this, what is your preferred
method for investigation? When you get a place you're going
to investigate, how do you approach it? How many people,
what kind of equipment? What works best for you? Go hadly.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean depending on how many people. It just
depends on the location itself, you know. I mean I
don't want to you know, have people in there, you know,
but to go and not be able to actually enjoy
the investigation, you know, without wondering, Okay, is that contamination?
Is that that somebody over here passing gas and you
never know, you know, I'm going to keep it kind
of under control as far as the investigation. The equipment, again,
it just it all depends. I've got kind of like
a baseline a few things. Regina makes fun of me
because I always overpack the equipment box. But I do
definitely want a few rimpods. I like to have some
K two's just for other people to use. I love
it when other people are hands on and they actually
tell me about their experiences as it's happening, because you know,
you never know who the spirit or entity might want
to talk to you. They may not like me, but
they may love Regina. Like I said, I mean, it
just all just depends on where we are. I mean,
one of my favorite things that I have, and it's
a love hate thing. It's my sols. I love it,
but damn that thing is heavy. I built it myself
and I was working for the fire department at the
time as a paramedic, and it was about twenty degrees
outside and I picked up an overtime shift and I
had just got my last component. I'm like, you know what,
I'm gonna take this thing with me and I'll take
it to the fire hall and that's where I put
it together. The captain who was actually there. He said,
do you mind if I ask what that is? And
I told him what it is and he says, that's
pretty cool. He says, I think I've seen one once
before me and my wife went on an investigation. So
he was kind of, you know, drawn into it. So
as I powered that thing up at the fire hall,
it's it's on a center block wall, that's what it
shined on. And there was a stick figure on that wall.
And I asked him, I said, cap, I said, do
you see what I'm saying? And he's like, yeah, you
know that. I said, there's nothing in there that it
could be. It's a blank wall. So he's sitting here
and he's like hi, and it would throw an arm up,
you know. So we just kind of, you know, just
set there and investigated with that for a little bit.
And I'm sorry, I'm gonna wrap this up. I know
I'm talking a lot. But so anyway, what was really
incredible about it He actually tried to approach the stick
figure and if it was gone, you know, we didn't
find it anymore. So we were looking around the fire
houlow never to find it. And I told him, I said,
I've got an idea. I wouldn't get my partner, who
was female, so I asked her. I said, hey, Erica,
I said, come out here. I want to ask you
to do me a favor. And she came out and I
explained to her what was going on. Well, anyway, there
was three chairs set up. She was in the middle chair.
The captain on the engine. He came out and he said,
in the chair, if I was facing him, it would
have been to my right and to the left. There
was a stick figure beside her. It was sitting back
had if you could tell, it's like what's crossed, and
his arm was like this right here. He was out
there like them with the best of us. And I've
still got that video as well, and that's one of
my favorite things that I've ever captured, just because it was,
you know, at work. I wasn't expecting that. But that
also got made to learning a lot of investigations at
the fire halls and they'll turn up something anyway. I'm sorry,
Please go ahead, Rein fine.
Speaker 1: You're fine, no problem, no problem. You know, as far
as equipment goes, I personally find when you stick to
the basics, I mean, there's lots of good toys out
there to play with. Some just kind of are repetitive.
I don't trust apps that are on phone or tablets
because they can be pre programmed. You know, they're for
entertainment purposes only. I like a rempod. I like my
I have trifield meters. But you know what, just a
good night vision camera, still camera and a digital recorder.
That's all you really need. And trust me, people, when
you're you see these shows or they have like multiple
cameras set up, they got maybe eight cameras set up
in a location. The one thing they never really show
you in this is you have if those each of
those cameras ran for like six hours, you have to
watch six hours footage from every single camera and it
is boring, boring, boring, but you hope for that one
instant you capture something that's exciting exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part that people don't understand is the
evidence review. And especially with the TV shows, it's like, oh,
that's all they got when they were there, and it's like, well, yeah,
but they had eight hours, ten cameras, eight hours each
of footage that they had to roll through. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's that's The thing about investigation, people don't understand
the dedication it takes. It's not just going out and
hoping you have some experiences, because a lot of times
you won't. But then maybe you will capture something on
your equipment later. And I find EVPs are one of
the things that fascinate me the most. I mean, whether
they're intelligent or not, it's just to get a human
voice that is not coming from anywhere. It's digital recorders,
not picking up radio waves. I used to have a
mechanical engineer on my team, so he used to always
go through and explain it like, Nope, that can't happen.
And I've I've heard, I've been cussed out one time.
I can call the son of a bitch. I've got men, women,
other voices. The other thing is tell me your opinion
on this. And a lot of the shows, especially old
ghost Hunters and even present day Ghost Adventures, they use
those old sony recorders that drive me crazy because they're
so staticky and garbled. And yet I think they use
them because they think they're getting more EVPs. And most
of the time when they're playing it your garbage. If
I want an EVP, I want it to be crystal clear,
even if it's faint. I mean, I don't know what's
your opinion.
Speaker 3: You know, we see them use all different kinds of
voice recorders, and I think it's just where the level
and the vibration and the and the voice falls within
those parameters, because I've had some Class aevps that are crystal,
crystal clear, there's no denying it what it's saying. And
then you get some that are are mumbled and jarbled,
and you know, the voice is not anybody that was
in the room, especially with me, like being an all
female team, when we get male voices, I mean, there's
nobody in the room faking a man's voice, I think.
And again it could be, and we won't know until
we're over there. But maybe it's the age of the spirit.
Maybe it's the the intelligent of the spirit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Maybe some can come through easier than others can come through.
Some don't know how to come through yet it just
becomes a muffled. But again, how do you explain a
spirit who doesn't have a voice box.
Speaker 1: To be talking, especially when you're right there and you
don't hear it, but the electronic device picks it up. Yes,
and that's the one thing that always fascinates me. Is
it because of a different range of frequency that it's
able to pick up and we can't hear it, But
then when you're playing it back you technically we wouldn't
be able to hear it either if it was totally
different frequency.
Speaker 3: But is it kind of like the light spectrum too,
Like you know, we see these cameras that can can
detect different light spectrums, and you see it on the camera,
but you don't see it with your own eyes because
we can't see that spectrum of light. Is the sound
and the voice waves the same, that's side we can
hear and some we can't.
Speaker 1: Something that I would really like an engineer to talk
about about recorders and if they could do pick up
more in those spectrums than what we hear, And if
it does pick something up, can it play it back
in a way that we can hear it. I mean,
that seems to be the case, but I'd like to
know because if that doesn't happen, then there's a definite
different phenomenon going on that we can't explain.
Speaker 2: One thing I would like to touch on, if you
don't mind. You were talking about picking up human voices.
You know, anybody that watches your show, I'd love for
them to pay attention on non human voices. And when
I say that, I don't mean go dark or anything
like that. But one of my favorite vps I've ever captured,
and I want your opinion on this as well. Reginas
heard it. It was at a plantation, a plantation called Rosemont,
and they were famous for thoroughbred horses. They would read
Thoroughbred horses. I don't know if you're familiar with the
Kentucky Derby winners, but they breathed the secretariut. Okay, there
had not been a horse on this property in well
over twenty years. The town grew up around it because
you know, the land got smaller and smaller. They kept
selling it up piece by piece, held an investigation there
what not. And I was in the office of the
guy that owned it. And there's Clear's day and you
could hear it on one of my video cameras as
well as the bush recorder, a big horse winning and
it sounded like it was just like right outside and
you know, and I played that we were actually doing
a public event, and everybody's like, was that a horse?
I'm like satted like a horse. Lets we want it?
You know. We played it back a couple of times
and it was Clear's day. So I mean, I'm sure
that it was probably you know, residual, probably just because
of the whole property itself. But the fact that I
caught a horse and you know that it was on
that property at one point in history, I don't know.
I just love that. What do you think about like
animal voices and such?
Speaker 1: Well, I think this is going to lead into something else.
But what I think we're dealing with in cases like that,
even sometimes with the human EVPs we capture, may not
necessarily be a spirit. I've been really doing a lot
of research lately into time slips and overlapping times impure
because there's the theory that all time is really happening
at once. It's not linear, so conditions can sometimes be
right for something from another time come through. Perfect example,
I was investigating an old grissmill here in New Jersey
called the Red and Mill. It's a big museum, and
right next door was a rock quarry that went back
into the eighteen hundreds, and we caught so much of
and it's at this museum. It was incredible But one
thing was interesting is on my video camera I had
up on the fourth floor. It's me in front of
the camera. You can see me talking, and all of
a sudden, there's this loud boom, this explosion. I didn't
hear it. It came up on the camera. And then
when I'm reserviewing it, I realized they had a dynamite
shack they used to blast and I think that's what
I caught. It wasn't anything in the nearby town, not
a car backfiring. It had that deep resonance of an explosion,
and I you know, some people call that residual, and
I'm beginning to have different ideas on residual these days.
Some people talk about the stone tape theory that what's
in the ground, crystal granite, running water, whatever, collects energy
and repeats it. And I don't know, just my opinion.
You can tell me your thoughts on it is. It's
not like that. It's really another a past event happening
in real time that leads through into our time.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I can I can see that. Would
it fall along the same lines as reincarnation, like you've
you've lived another life and you're coming across the same
people and the same spiritual soul family and and you know,
you're just on a different dimension now than you were before.
And do those ever overlap and that's why you're meeting
the same people like like are we just in layers?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's sometimes it makes my head hurt
thinking about it. But another example of for this theory,
and then we'll move on is my friend in the UK, Ireen,
you know, and she's a very very sensitive and one
time she was touring a house they were looking to buy,
and she went upstairs by herself, opened up the door
of the room and there is this woman in Edwardian
period made clothing servants, clothing working and when she opened
the door, that person looked at her. They locked eyes,
both of their jaws dropped open in surprise, and then
the woman vanished. So what would be more logical if
you're gonna use Akham's rasor here that it's Some people
would say it's a spirit of a servant who died.
They don't know they died and they're going about doing
their business or whatever. Or was it a momentary slip
in time and dimensions where two very much living breathing
human beings actually saw each other for a brief moment
and before the phenomenon went away.
Speaker 2: In a mind of another experience I had with my partner.
And I know I'm long on telling stories. I don't
want to bring that up, but you just brought that up.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible. I do truly believe that it
is possible.
Speaker 1: Well, there's so much we don't know. I keep learning.
After all these years, I keep learning, So I know
that's something we all do. So let's talk about things
that you've experienced or certain investigations. What is your favorite
either location experience, what has really made you go wow.
Speaker 3: There's so many, Like after so many years, there's so
so many. Obviously, the Stanley Hotel was a wow moment
for me to actually get that personalized message. I was
at the Limp Mansion in Saint Louis and that was
the first time I ever heard my name on come
over on a spirit box Claire's Day, said Regina. I
mean that was like a wow moment. Wow, they know
that I'm here, Like these ones can actually interact and
see me. It's not you know, just you know, on
a repeat or residual or whatever. You want to call
it wow. I mean I've I've had experiences where I've
been touched. I've had experiences where I've only heard something
in my ear and nobody else has. I mean, there's
just I can't nail down just one because so many
after so many years. But also like working with a
historian and validating that, you know, the spirit that we're
speaking with was an actual person, that's pretty amazing as well.
Speaker 1: Sure what about Yulik.
Speaker 2: One of the first investigations I did with Regina was
actually at the wash Show out in Virginia City, Nevada.
Like I said, I met her just a couple of
times at a public event that you know, they allowed
us to have at their facility. So I didn't know
really anything about her. I mean, I thought, this woman's
kind of hateful. I don't know if she likes me
or not. You know, I was kind of, you know,
towing the line around her. So anyway, we started investigating
and in the old wash Show club, we were in
one of the Ladies of the Night, that's what they
prefer to be called in the office, miss Julia. So
we're in there and I'm trying to elicit a response
and and this, this whole moment was the wow wow factor.
I'm trying to elicit a response. I'm in there calling
out to Miss Julia, saying that I would like to,
you know, set up some ladies in the night for
the night. Regina looks at me, and what I remember
so much, it wasn't Regina, but I mean it was
her body or physical body looked at me and and
almost a different voice said, you're lying. I said what?
And she said, you are lying. She turned towards me
and started getting borderline aggressive, and her teammates and one
of my teammates they kind of, you know, just got
her out of that room and what we got out
and Regina's like, I what happened?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And that was kind of like a wild factor. But
what was wow about it is because what I was,
I have no doubt that I was talking to Miss Julia,
and because it definitely wasn't Regina. And that is when
I saw Regina as much more than just an investigator
and a friend. It's like our connection was made.
Speaker 1: Well, Regina, have you ever channeled like that before?
Speaker 3: One other time before that, I was at Saint Albans
in Radford, Virginia, was in the same asylum, and there
was three of us that went into a room and
it was set up like a school room with a
chalkboard in desks. The other two investigators went off to
one side, sat down and were starting a spirit box session.
And I was actually at the chalkboard, just kind of doodling,
and I could hear them turn on the spirit box.
And I was in there for nine minutes and thirty
seven seconds only because my recorder was running for that long,
and it started to sound like I was in a tunnel,
and I could hear them, but they kept getting farther
and farther away. They said I did not respond to
them calling my name. I was just at the chalkboard,
just still holding the chalkboard, facing it, and they said
I finally turned around and my face was not my face,
it was somebody else, and they scooped me up and
took me out of the building. I don't remember we
were on the second floor. I don't remember going down
the stairs. I don't remember going outside. All I remember
is hearing them. But it kept getting farther and farther away,
so I think something was trying to either enter me
or had entered me and was trying to take over
channel through me. I don't know, but those are the
only two instances where I had something like that happen.
And with the one with Lee was it was very
very intense feeling like I knew I was there, but
I didn't know I was speaking. And all I could
think of was he is soliciting, but he's lying because
he doesn't have the money to give to me. And
that's why I was almost up in his space, like.
Speaker 2: You're a liar, you are really aggressive. I'm backing up
from it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so only twice.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 3: I don't really prefer it something that I looked that happened,
but it has happened.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I do have instances where the more and longer that
I investigate, I do start to over the past few years,
get things that just and only for simple terms is
they just pop in my head and I've learned to
just say them because I think that's a way of
them communicating, Like what's your name? And I'll say a name,
you know, where are you at? Oh, I'm standing over here?
Like does things just pop into my head just like
answers or things that I wouldn't know about the location
pop into my head and I've just learned to say
them out loud. So I don't know if that is
a form of channeling. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I've experienced that though, too, and sometimes I look at
it as downloaded knowledge. I'll be in a location, a
name will come to me. I'm not psychic by any means,
but I mean I have received downloads of information while
I'm in places, and I've been able to validate it later. Right,
So that's again something else that's really fascinating.
Speaker 3: I think that certain people, and this is just my opinion,
when you go into a location, certain people are like
beacons of light to them. They can see them more clearly.
The spirits can see us. Lee, you see us more clearly.
Know that we're more open to communication than other people,
you know, because some people go in there and they're
very closed off. And it's like you have to go in,
in my opinion, with an open mind and an open heart. Yes,
be protected, but go in with an open minded, an
open heart, and willing to receive those messages. And we're
just like beacons. We're like, oh, let me go over
here and talk to these people because I can see them.
I can hear them. Where these people I can't or
don't even know that they're there.
Speaker 1: Have you, either of you, ever experimented with which I
have not. I forget what they call it, where they
have a person sitting down blindfolded with noise canceling headphone.
Speaker 3: That's his method.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, and you have used that?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, I've actually done it with two people using
two separate spirit boxes and getting the same responses.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That was the house, wasn't every gena?
Speaker 3: That was actually at the Old Stone Jail?
Speaker 2: Okay on the museum side.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. You said that you've never dealt with
anything you considered demonic, but have you what is your
most let's say, intense experience that maybe wasn't that pleasant,
you know, maybe not demonic per se, but maybe even
let's say a pissed off ghost. Have you ever dealt
with that?
Speaker 2: Well, mon was miss Julia, I'll revert back to that again.
Came through with Regina. I thought she was gonna push
me out a window, So that's probably one.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: You know, I've come across some nasty people, and again
you have to think if they were not nice in life,
then they're not going to be nice in death. We've
all obviously all been told to get the fuck out.
You know. Lee and I were just on an investigation
a few months ago where we had through the spirit box.
It was like shut the fuck up, like it literally said,
shut the fuck up. Male, and with with me and
Lee talking, it didn't. It didn't like us and didn't
want us to be there. I've had instances where I've
you know, had unwanted touch and it just just like,
don't do that, You're not allowed to. But never anything
that I would consider demonic. Just nasty people, not happy people.
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 2: Have you have you had anything like that? I'm just
curious me. Yeah, I hearing your stories as well. It
really did.
Speaker 1: H Yes, one of the very first investigations I did
with the first team I joined, we investigated a house
out on Long Island and.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I had to ask.
Speaker 1: Long Island is huge by the way the we were
I was very skeptical going in because there was something
about this guy that just screamed he wanted attention, and
so I didn't think anything was going to happen. Well,
I started feeling this pressure in my chest and an
anxiety that I couldn't explain, and then I went upstairs
and feeling was overwhelming, and it was one of the
first times I realized something didn't want me.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: I was with a couple of other female members, one
of them who was very sensitive, and she was telling
me that there was a man who didn't like me,
felt threatened by me because he didn't like other men
around him, and was trying to get me to leave.
And at one point, the one and only time I
ever had to leave and go outside, and once I
did that, it all evaporated. So then when I went
back inside it started again. But I knew what I
was up against, so I kind of was able to
put up my defenses, push back a little bit and
say I'm not going anywhere. So that was a real
intense experience. There was another one where I was investigating
a house here in Jersey where they said they were
experiencing some extreme activemty. The mother said she was pushed
down the stairs once her kids were having horrible nightmares.
And we went there just to do a preliminary, me
and one other investigator, and as we're there, I had
that exact same feeling again. Something was trying to get
me to leave. The other investigator got hit by an
electric shock that was not static electricity, and it was very,
very interesting. So when we finished, we walked out into
the driveway to the car to talk a little bit.
It followed us outside. I was still trying to get
us to leave, so I finally we got our cars
and as I drove away, then it dissipated. Now, ironically,
when we went back with our team it hit, it
wouldn't come out. So that's the one thing people need
to understand too with investigating. These things don't perform on command. Now,
they could like dormant, don't want to deal with you,
and then occasionally come out and do things.
Speaker 2: Somebody I work with they asked me, They says, how
do you know that these ghosts are not just sitting
around washing TV. You walk in and they're like, oh crap,
I got to get up and do some ghost shit.
Now they're back.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I think it exactly what
you were talking about. You're right, they're not performers people.
Speaker 1: I also think time works differently for them. They're not
like like us. In this type of consciousness. I think
it's almost a type of dream state. They still have
a type of consciousness, they can react to things, but
I think time moves differently for them. So one last
question I wanted to get out to you. Now, I
know you don't investigate private homes, Lee, does have you
ever investigated old caves or minds? Yes?
Speaker 3: We were actually asked to be guest investigators at the
bell Witch Cave.
Speaker 1: Of all places, Okay, and.
Speaker 3: If people aren't familiar with the bell Witch Cave, it
was the first documented ghost paranormal experience in the US
long history, you can look it up. Anyway. We were
tasked to camp out in the actual cave all night,
and we had some stuff happen. I mean Lee had
more things happen, but we did hear things, we did
experience things. I'll let Lee tell you his experiences that
he had. But the bottom line be came when we
left the cave and we were warned not to take
anything with us, which we did, and we didn't take
any rocks or anything. A lot of people do and
have to return them. It was really odd because Lee
had some stuff happened at his home afterwards. But we
both got really, really sick, like sick from being in
that cave for had to be at least ten hours.
Speaker 1: Lee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more like we were. You know, different groups would
come in and we do our session, and but we
did find some interesting stuff and Lee can tell you about.
Speaker 2: That well as far as the evidence that we captured.
One of the best things that we captured. I don't
know how much you know about the story of Kate
Bess the Wide Shift Tennessee. She was a shape shifter
and a lot of reports said that she would shape
shift into a four legged animal. Look a big world
for adult One video that we have. I've got a
still camera set up and it showed Regina's then and
they're just steelers can be holding a voice recorder. Everybody
in there is when we investigate, everybody sits to you know,
and if somebody does maybe you know, we announced what
that he is, you know, whether it's a noise or whatever.
On the shadow on the wall behind Regina. You could
see very clearly a four legged shadow just go across
the screen behind Regina. And we shouted to the people
that were actually hosting it and they're like, you know,
just jaw dropped in. Wow. Another personal experience that I
had during that that not I was pissed at Regina
and everybody in that cave. Once you walk into the cave,
it's got about a corridor, I don't know, about fifty
yards long and it's about this wide, you know, and
it's just solid rock all around. While we were in
the cave, there was a pretty bad thunderstorm and we
kept everybody in there instead of trying to get back
up the hill out. We just kept everybody in the
cave during the storm, which knocked trees down, branches down,
and everything else. Of course. But I went out to
the cave entrance to have a cigarette, you know, because
they had a little overhang. While I'm sitting out there
by myself to the right, I see this. It's almost
like a ball of smoke. And it came up the
hill in front of me, went across to me and
then down to the river. And I'm just like, you know,
s done. So I screaming to the cave. Regina. Nothing, Regina, nothing.
And I yelled in that cave, Regina, and I'm screaming,
and like I said, it's all just solid rock. So
I'm like, what the hell? So I went in there
and I went in there and I said, Regina, I said,
where the hell y'all being They're like, what are you
talking about? I said, you did not hear me screaming?
And they said, no, we didn't hear anything. Regina says
that they didn't hear anything, although I still wonder about that.
Speaker 3: There was like eight of us in the cave and
we did not hear him yelling at all.
Speaker 2: Being out there by myself, you know, it kind of
freaked me out what I saw with this little ball
of smoke. So I just wanted somebody else to come out,
and she never, she never came. She left me there.
Speaker 1: Yep. Well, I'll tell you one story. I was in
Colorado several years ago visiting my family and outside of
Colorado Springs, actually going up the pass up into the mountains,
there is a tourist attraction called Cave of the Winds.
It's a natural cave system that was discovered about one
hundred years ago and it's been an operation ever since. Now,
what I find interesting about these types of situations like
the bell Witch Cave or old mines, these types of
places which seem to attract paranormal activity. And what's interesting
is this cave no one ever died in. No one
died and the Native Indians who lived in the area
never went in it because it was so deep that
there's this area in the very back of the cave
where I investigated, that is about two hundred feet under
solid rock, about a thousand feet or more from the
main entrance, through a bunch of twists and turns and
lo low openings that you had to crawl through to
get to this open chamber at the back. And I
can't believe the amount of activity we caught there. Voices
telling us to get out, growls, lots of light anomalies captured.
One that really fascinates me is I was filming against
this rock wall, and these bright lights kept appearing in
the cracks of the rocks, and they would they would
come in like this, and then after a moment they
fade out, and then a minute or so later they
would appear in another part of the rock. And I
caught all this on video. Very clear. There's no insects,
because back at that part of the cave, it's sterile,
no animals of any kind, no reflective surfaces because it
was limestone, not granite, and yet these lights would appear
and disappear, and there was definitely something intelligent in there,
So now begs the question, what is it. I investigated
a gold mine once too, and it's the same situation.
Now there people died in the mind, so you could
explain it. But when you get these locations where people
have not died, why are there people or why are
their intelligences in the caves? Which leads me to another
topic we can talk about another time. Leads me to
think that we're dealing with elemental type entities. You know,
the old miners used to call them tommy knockers and
but definitely not human, but can communicate and let you
know that they don't want you there.
Speaker 3: Right right where we used to have the location the
Opera House here in Tennessee. Over seven years, we were
told many times by different mediums that there was an
elemental there, and it made sense because the basement half
of it was still just regular dirt and it was
located on the trail of tears. So we know that
the Cherokee Indians summered there and I'm sure did lots
of ritualistic things that could have brought something to that land.
But yeah, we have been told many times that there's
an elemental there, and it always us to get out
like it doesn't want us there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to mention Regina on the towns where you
know the other piece of history at town had right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's home of the KKK.
Speaker 2: So I had a lot of violence and tragedy there
with that as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a shame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's really a bloodstub town. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well we've come to the end of the interview here.
Thank you so much both for being here. Regina. I'll
start with you, where can people find your website or
if they want to contact you, what's what's the best
way people can do.
Speaker 3: We have all the social media, we have Facebook, TikTok, Instagram.
We do have a website. It's all listed under PPF Investigations,
and our contact information is on especially the social media.
You can contact us through there. We do occasionally host
public events and we've some on our social media if
we do. But we would love for you guys to
follow us and watch our journey and interact with us,
and you know, we'd love to hear from you. So
if you have any questions, please reach out.
Speaker 2: Okay and Lee, just contact Regina. I'm kidding, madam. Just
a view of the social platforms medics for paranormal. That's
the number four not spelled out Medics four paranormal on Facebook.
Also medics four Paranormal at gmail dot com. And I'm
not progressed at TikTok yet because, like I said earlier,
I'm not very tech savvy, but I'm trying lowerdows. I try.
I'd love to hear from anybody that has any questions
wants to reach out something that I'm about to start doing.
I just to touch on this, and I'd love to
hear other experiences. I'm a Catholic priest who's a demonologist,
a very good friend of mine, and he asked me
if I would ever if needed a company on a case,
and I said, what do you mean by that? He said, well,
I'd like to be outside just as a medical personnel
in case needed, and I pulled them I would, and
that's going to be a new adventure coming. I've been
trying to do a lot of homework and research, so
I would love to hear from anybody on that. And
the only reason that I'm even considering doing it, The
only reason is because these people are desperate need help,
and if I can do anything to help, I want
absolutely yea, and if.
Speaker 3: Anybody, if anybody's in that, we're located in the middle
Tennessee area. So if you're ever interested in possibly going
on a ghost hont or just have questions, please reach
out to either of us for more than willing to
help bring you along or show you the ropes or
whatever you need.
Speaker 1: Okay, well again, thank you both so much. This has
been a great interview. I know we have a lot more,
many stories to tell. I'll have to have you both
come back sometimes.
Speaker 2: We would love that.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you very much, thank you for having us.
Thank you, and that wraps up our first show of
twenty twenty six. Thank you all for tuning in, and
you can listen to the audio portion of this on
our network radio station, the Paranormal UK Radio Network at
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of course the youtwoe is here on YouTube under Melissa
Lee's channel m I L I S SA L E
I g H. So until next time, I hope you
all had a wonderful New Year, and we're going to
be traveling into twenty twenty six and see what happens
from there, So until then, you all be good humans
and we'll talk with you soon