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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed

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<v Speaker 2>your dog? My dog? We're flying through there over the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, and they would have dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. I didn't have seen any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 2>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>reporting we got some wonder or something crawling around out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see what it was? It enough out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Look him new to window now and I don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. Point hello, hit somebody

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<v Speaker 2>out here? What quent on out there? It's thought of

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of about sixty nine. I don't know easy

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Yeah, I'm right head A.

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<v Speaker 3>Greetings spread Alaska, thanks for joining me today. What I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to share with you today comes from the Yukon River,

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<v Speaker 3>just south of where the Richardson Cross is it. This

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<v Speaker 3>comes from Dylan and Christina, former Alaskan residents. They no

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<v Speaker 3>longer live here. Dylan put in a transfer from his

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<v Speaker 3>position he had then and that's why they moved. This

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the catalysts. They had reserved a cabin

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<v Speaker 3>just south of Big Salt River. It was where the

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<v Speaker 3>Big Salt comes into the Yukon where they meet. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a little cabin there. They were there for approximately a week.

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<v Speaker 3>They had planned on being there for two weeks because

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to use up every bit of his paid leave.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted to do it somewhere remote and reset. Dylan's

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<v Speaker 3>job was high stress, had to do with the law

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement arena. After a week of just basically milling around

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<v Speaker 3>this cabin, d compressing, taking naps in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, they had a little portable DVD player they

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<v Speaker 3>would charge up every day with their small generator and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just enjoying themselves. A couple days before the

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<v Speaker 3>incident happened on their height, they had their dog with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name was Rizzo. She was a little pitbull mixed,

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<v Speaker 3>very loyal, very happy dog. From what they were saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Rizzo was approximately six years old at this time. Now

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<v Speaker 3>there's a smaller little creek. It cuts back up into

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<v Speaker 3>the mountain and it just gains elevation as it's going,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's really hard hiking. They were both athletic, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't mind. Dylan was carrying a firearm he had himself,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he said it was the four fifty four cassule,

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<v Speaker 3>and also she had a backpacker shotgun slung over her shoulders,

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<v Speaker 3>so they were loaded for barrisoa speak had they needed

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<v Speaker 3>to make use of firearms. So they're approximately five hours

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<v Speaker 3>into this hike. Because they're gaining elevation, they got steep sides.

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<v Speaker 3>The mountain directly behind the cabin is only like eleven

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty feet or something like that. It's not overly

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<v Speaker 3>huge by any means, but with all the thick vegetation,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going up this little draw that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hooks back around the back side of this mountain, it

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<v Speaker 3>was trying. It was very technical. Train for anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>does hiking of any kind, it would be up there

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<v Speaker 3>on the spectrum of difficulty. So basically what they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>is going up this dried up creek bed from runoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would have to come off of the creek

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<v Speaker 3>and go around certain little drops and things of this nature.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was taking them time, but they were enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dylan said they got to a certain point, and

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<v Speaker 3>Rizzo started behaving strangely, the same strange behavior they had

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<v Speaker 3>witnessed at the cabin a couple of days prior. She

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<v Speaker 3>would spin in a c bark at them and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of lunge at them, but not showing her teeth, but

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<v Speaker 3>barking at them, like trying to get their attention, like

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<v Speaker 3>jumping towards me in this real panicked way. And she

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<v Speaker 3>would run in a circle and do it again. And

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<v Speaker 3>she kept doing that and doing it again. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>they got more alert because the dog was acting squirrely,

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<v Speaker 3>but the dog wasn't alerting anywhere. The dog was alerting

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<v Speaker 3>to them, basically getting their attention. They chalked it up

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<v Speaker 3>to her just being spun ky and being away from

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<v Speaker 3>home or whatever. They weren't picking up on those subtle cues.

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<v Speaker 3>Another couple hours in after her little the asshole of

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<v Speaker 3>running in a circle. After they calmed her down from

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<v Speaker 3>that and they continued on, Dylan and Christina both said

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<v Speaker 3>that Rizzo was like very focused in front of them.

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<v Speaker 3>She kept going up further, looking around, sniffing the air,

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<v Speaker 3>and then would turn around look at them, and as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as they got closer to us, she would do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing, So it was like she was going

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of them a little ways checking things out. She

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<v Speaker 3>was obviously on alert for something. They recognized it, but

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't realize what it was for because it was

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<v Speaker 3>the vegetation was so thick. This was mid July, land

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<v Speaker 3>of the midnight sun. It's not like it was getting

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<v Speaker 3>dark anytime soon. They're looking around. Maybe there's a bear

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<v Speaker 3>day up in here we're unaware of. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 3>back off right, So they decided they're smelling the air,

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<v Speaker 3>they're listening. They're not hearing anything. There's no songbirds going

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<v Speaker 3>on or anything, which twenty twenty hindsight Dylan said he

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<v Speaker 3>should have picked up on that queue. But they were

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<v Speaker 3>having such a good time, so they decided we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>a little further. There's a little bit of a shelf

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<v Speaker 3>that they could see from where they were coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted to get up on that little shelf and

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<v Speaker 3>have a little picnic style lunch right there. So they

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<v Speaker 3>get up to that point. While they're up on this

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<v Speaker 3>little shelf, it's far more vegetation than they realized. If

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<v Speaker 3>from their vantage point it looked fairly flat level and

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<v Speaker 3>vegetation free. But once they got up there. The grass

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<v Speaker 3>was four foot tall. There's a brush around and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>so they kind of walked around peck and the grass

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<v Speaker 3>down so they could see over back down into this

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<v Speaker 3>draw to witness the accomplishment. They may coming up that

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<v Speaker 3>damn thing again eleven and some feet. The trying aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of it was coming down of the creek up on

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<v Speaker 3>these steep walls, trying to make a path. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>breaking trail. Christina starts digging out the lunch stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan's getting out his little cookie stove. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was using some kind of fuel, whether it be sterno

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, to heat up water. They had

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<v Speaker 3>some freeze dried soup stuff they were going to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Rizzo at this time was laying down next to Christina

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<v Speaker 3>and kept looking further up that draw and was just

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<v Speaker 3>fixated on it. Okay, we'll pay attention to her, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's tend to what we're doing. The way they stumped

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<v Speaker 3>on the grass and stuff, Dylan said he felt he

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<v Speaker 3>had at least enough visible range if a bear did

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<v Speaker 3>come in on him that he had time to react. Christina,

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<v Speaker 3>where she was sitting, she had that backpacker shotgun right

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<v Speaker 3>on her lap, it wasn't technically a backpacker. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a Maverick eighty eight twelve gage. They were loaded for bear.

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<v Speaker 3>They had some slugs in there. So as she's sitting

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<v Speaker 3>there with the shotgun, he's working on the soup, Rizzo

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<v Speaker 3>stands up, circles them a couple times, circles them, and

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<v Speaker 3>as she's circling them, wherever she's at in the position

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<v Speaker 3>of the circle, she's looking back up that draw and

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<v Speaker 3>she's walking around. Dylan and Christina strange behavior again. They

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<v Speaker 3>start paying attention. Dylan, Yes, Christina, can you please watch

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<v Speaker 3>the soup that's boiling, stirred or whatever. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>walk over this direction that she keeps looking and take

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<v Speaker 3>a closer look. She said, fine, be careful, watch out

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<v Speaker 3>for the bears. Don't get eaten by a bear. And

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<v Speaker 3>they both kind of chuckle. He draws his four fifty

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<v Speaker 3>four so he has it in hand so he's not

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<v Speaker 3>jumped by the bear if it's real close, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>As he moved forward towards the brushwork dropped down back

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<v Speaker 3>into the draw, he said he noticed across the draw

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<v Speaker 3>from them. He said, it had to have been probably

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred yards. He knows this real dark dot in

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<v Speaker 3>the green foliage. It looked like a super dark shadow.

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<v Speaker 3>It had no shape because it was just black and

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<v Speaker 3>it was across the way, so he just took it

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<v Speaker 3>as a real dark shadow. Maybe there's a cave over there,

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<v Speaker 3>he starts rationalizing, maybe it's a cave where a bear

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<v Speaker 3>is hold up, and maybe after our lunch we'll just

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<v Speaker 3>get out of here. And so he looks over at

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<v Speaker 3>that spot a little while. He's not saying anything, so

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<v Speaker 3>he goes back over and resumes what he's doing. He

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<v Speaker 3>tells Christina about it, and she walks over after he

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<v Speaker 3>takes over the soup thing just during it and keep

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<v Speaker 3>an eye on it. She walks over and that's when

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<v Speaker 3>she's looking at the same thing, and she says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>that big dark spot is moving. He was thrown off.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, nah, it was just a shadow. You

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<v Speaker 3>sure the winding blown over there or something, again, rationalizing it.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, no, it's moving. And then Rizzo starts doing

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<v Speaker 3>this number again in a small circle Barkin and not

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<v Speaker 3>lunging at her, but like jumping towards her, getting her attention.

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<v Speaker 3>She's ignoring Rizzo because she's watching this black dot across

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<v Speaker 3>the way now, Dylan said, he stopped the cooking process.

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<v Speaker 3>He just put the lid on the top, set it

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<v Speaker 3>off to the side and put the lid on the

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<v Speaker 3>stern or or whatever to stop that process. And he

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<v Speaker 3>went over and stood next to her, and they watched

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<v Speaker 3>this dark, very dark, black shadow coming down through the trees.

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<v Speaker 3>And again it's broken up. You can see it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you can't see it because the vegetation, the growth

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<v Speaker 3>is just crazy with all the willows and the popper

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. They're just looking, what are we looking at here?

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like a big black bear. He felt a

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<v Speaker 3>little better thinking it was a large black bear because

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<v Speaker 3>with what they had, they'd take care of a black

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<v Speaker 3>bear if they had to, no problem. So he was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a black bear. Again, he starts rationalizing, no wonder,

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<v Speaker 3>Rizzo is acting funny. It probably dends up up here,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe it came close to the cabin for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days. They're explaining everything away and putting it

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<v Speaker 3>on this black bear being in the area. They feel

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more relaxed because of their initial assumption. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>although Rizzo has not stopped running around in a circle

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<v Speaker 3>and barking back towards them, again, not lunging at them,

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<v Speaker 3>but lunging towards them, trying to get their attention. And

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<v Speaker 3>again they're just like girls, settled down. We know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>They go over. They each have one of those big

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<v Speaker 3>and he's keeping his eye focused over there. And again

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<v Speaker 3>down facing that direction, just grumping and grumbling every once

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<v Speaker 3>in a while, not a full on growl, but just

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<v Speaker 3>little little noises. And they would pay attention to that,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were eating. They were a little too relaxed

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<v Speaker 3>of course, he said, had he known what was about

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<v Speaker 3>the transpire, they would have already been on their way

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<v Speaker 3>back down as the crow flies. The distance between the

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<v Speaker 3>not very far. The majority of that distance would be

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<v Speaker 3>and he does it real quickly, and he noticed himself

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<v Speaker 3>something was drawing his attention back over into this draw.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, about twenty feet in elevation above the draw,

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<v Speaker 3>the way it's going up the mountain. He finished up

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<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly and used his water jug, rinsed out his

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<v Speaker 3>little cup, plung the water, put everything away, and Christina

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<v Speaker 3>it up for her real quick, put it in her

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<v Speaker 3>pack for They stand up, and they're just standing there

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<v Speaker 3>a minute to let the soup and stuff settle. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to start hiking immediately and get cramps. And

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<v Speaker 3>they're discussing that black bear. It's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 3>making its way towards us, and this was a topic

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<v Speaker 3>of the conversation from when they first saw it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they kind of unknowingly set themselves up for an encounter,

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<v Speaker 3>which they could have probably avoided had they left immediately

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<v Speaker 3>upon seeing this dark shadow coming down. But again they

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<v Speaker 3>assumed it was a black bear. They said, nah, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>take our chances. We got firearms. We're up here to

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<v Speaker 3>and they go back down the trail that they made

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<v Speaker 3>coming up onto this little shelf to have their lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they got down back to that creek, he

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<v Speaker 3>starts looking back up to draw looking for where this

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<v Speaker 3>because it curves off to his left. From his vantage

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<v Speaker 3>point facing uphill, he sees the big black shape up there,

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, okay, I got eyes on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>got eyes on it. And Rizzo comes down and again

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<v Speaker 3>gets in front of him and is spinning around and

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<v Speaker 3>He's recognizing, but he also has eyes on this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's not fully engaging the dog. He tells Christina,

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<v Speaker 3>get the dog. Get the dog. So she puts the

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<v Speaker 3>lead on the dog, the big black dot. As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as she clicks the leash on, this thing stands up

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan's It took probably ten seconds for him to comprehend

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<v Speaker 3>what he was looking at. This thing was silhouetted. The

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<v Speaker 3>sun was back behind the mountain off to their right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was high up in the sky the way the

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<v Speaker 3>sun was coming down with all the vegetation, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>was just dark and silhouetted. So he's watching, and this

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<v Speaker 3>thing steps out more from the brush where he can

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<v Speaker 3>see a humanoid shape right. He said. The approximate distance

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<v Speaker 3>was probably about sixty five yards. This thing was big,

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<v Speaker 3>he said. He watched it because of the light behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>He watched it take two steps, very short steps. He said.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked awkward the way the movement looked very awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>But it crossed across the creek bed and squatted back

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<v Speaker 3>down right in the brush that was a little less

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<v Speaker 3>sunlight penetrating it, and squatted down and was facing their

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<v Speaker 3>direction like it was watching. He's standing there. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>his pistol in his hand. He doesn't remember drawing it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he remembers holding it, and he had it cocked

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<v Speaker 3>all that happened autopilot from his training and stuff. He

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<v Speaker 3>has his firearm cocked and he wants to point in

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<v Speaker 3>that direction, but something's telling him just leave. As he's

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<v Speaker 3>contemplating this, Christina's behind him saying, what do you see?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you see? Because she had him in front

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<v Speaker 3>of her and she couldn't see nothing, so she focused

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<v Speaker 3>on putting the lead on the dog, and then her

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<v Speaker 3>view of what was going on was obstructed with Dylan

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<v Speaker 3>standing there in the way, so she takes a few

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<v Speaker 3>steps back away from Dylan. Rizzo's going in a circle,

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<v Speaker 3>not barking, making this weird whimper growl, in a circle,

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<v Speaker 3>in a circle. It's making a jingling sound with the

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<v Speaker 3>collar and the chain the way the leash is connected.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's trying to comfort the dog. Dylan turns around

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<v Speaker 3>and tells her, let's start moving. Let's start moving down

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<v Speaker 3>the trail. You start, I'm coming right behind you, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's start. As he's facing her real briefly, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>lets out a very sharp, short whoop. He said it

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<v Speaker 3>was sol but so short. It was a very powerful sound,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was just very brief.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see right

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<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that whoop. He could hear it echo across

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<v Speaker 3>the Yukon River and back. How quick and sharp it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very loud, startled, and he turned around. He's

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<v Speaker 3>pointing the gun right back up in the direction and

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<v Speaker 3>he no longer sees this thing where it was because

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<v Speaker 3>it was easy to pick out. It was darker than

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<v Speaker 3>the shadows it was trying to hide in, and he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see it there. Rizzo doing the thing again, running

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<v Speaker 3>in a circle and hopping towards Christina jumps and bites

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<v Speaker 3>her by her raincoat that she was wearing and starts

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<v Speaker 3>pulling her down back down trail. So she's listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the dog that got this weird whoop. She still hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen anything, so from her vantage point, she's just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take the dog's lead, so to speak. She starts down

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<v Speaker 3>the trail, and Dylan said he took a few steps

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<v Speaker 3>and turned around back up to look from when he

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<v Speaker 3>turned around to tell her to get moving, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>must have crossed because it was back on the opposite side,

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<v Speaker 3>a little closer to them, and he saw it because

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<v Speaker 3>it was leaning out, peeking towards them again. Fully silhouetted.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't give a description of the face. He said

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<v Speaker 3>his heart skipped to beat because the way this thing

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<v Speaker 3>was leaning out and looking at him. He felt being

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement, he was versed in dealing with shady incidents, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I trust what he felt, and it was nothing nice.

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<v Speaker 3>He felt there was something sinister about that. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to just open fire on potentially some just some

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<v Speaker 3>weirdo or something. So he figured, okay, we'll just retreat

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<v Speaker 3>out of here. Again, not fully realizing just what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on because again very limited vision of it, silhouetted. He

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<v Speaker 3>did see it cross, but again, when you're rationalizing things away,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some indecisions sometimes, right. So he said about forty

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty feet on their back trail that as they

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<v Speaker 3>were going down, Christina had a pretty decent lead on him.

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<v Speaker 3>He stopped and turned around, and when he did, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the spots where Rizzo was circling, she had pitdled

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. When he turned back around to look

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<v Speaker 3>back up again, just forty fifty feet, not far at all.

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<v Speaker 3>He turns around to look, this thing was over sniffing

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<v Speaker 3>the air, low to the ground. He said, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it was trying to do a push up. Very dark.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't make out any features other than it looked humanoid,

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<v Speaker 3>and it looked like it was down in a push

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<v Speaker 3>up position, just sniffing the air just above the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, it was the most prepast surreal thing he

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<v Speaker 3>had ever seen in his life. Coming from law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>I could imagine he's seen some crazy stuff. He's pointing

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<v Speaker 3>that gun back up at it, and as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>this thing sees him holding the gun pointing at him,

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<v Speaker 3>it stands up and darts uphill off to his right

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<v Speaker 3>hand side, he said, into the thickest part of the brush.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing was poom gone. He could hear this thing

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<v Speaker 3>making noise. He was thinking, initially, leaf, Okay, it's running away.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever in the hell it is going away from us.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets uphill a little ways, about half the distance

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<v Speaker 3>to the top in banks to the right, circling cutting

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<v Speaker 3>back across the hillside towards where Christina is right. She

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<v Speaker 3>had stopped and she was watching what he was seeing,

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<v Speaker 3>and the whole time she could hear it running. She

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<v Speaker 3>had her shotgun pointed in that direction. The dog is

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<v Speaker 3>spinning a circle and started barking real out so Dylan

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<v Speaker 3>catches up to her says, let's get moving. So they're listening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's off to their left. Now they're listening to this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan said. It sounded like it was running back and forth,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was really hard to make out because it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a constant run back and forth. It would make

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<v Speaker 3>noise and go silent, and then it would make noise

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<v Speaker 3>again and go silent. So they're basically constantly checking their

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<v Speaker 3>back trail all around them as they make their way

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<v Speaker 3>back down. Well, once they've got back down by where

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<v Speaker 3>near the cabin was, they said they no longer heard it.

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<v Speaker 3>The dog started acting more normal, a little over anxious,

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<v Speaker 3>but acting normal nonetheless her normal self. So he was

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<v Speaker 3>giving Rizzo praise. He was like, oh, you're a good girl,

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<v Speaker 3>good protecting mom and whatnot right, and we should have

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<v Speaker 3>listened to you girl, that kind of stuff, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>For the next handful of knights at the cabin, he

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<v Speaker 3>could not sleep. He would doze off out of sheer exhaustion,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he would wake up to any odd noise,

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<v Speaker 3>the dog move and whatever. He said, they didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>anything after it ran up on the hill and was

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<v Speaker 3>moving back and forth, they didn't see it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just a weird noise at that point. Once they're back

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<v Speaker 3>in the cabin, and he said he kept waking up

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<v Speaker 3>what struck him. He'd wake up, he would feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it was just outside. Of course, he would check. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>check around the perimeter and nothing Rizzol outside not acting

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<v Speaker 3>funny or anything. He trusted the dog's instincts a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>The dog wasn't acting out of place or doing the

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<v Speaker 3>little circle thing. He would relax and be able to

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<v Speaker 3>go back in and fall back asleep, but he said

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<v Speaker 3>it was really rough. They get out of there at

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<v Speaker 3>their scheduled time, which was really hard for them to

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<v Speaker 3>stay because this thing was just over there and they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what to do. They didn't know who to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to. He was concerned about sharing with anyone at

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<v Speaker 3>work because of the nature of his job. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to get some kind of reprimand or sent to

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<v Speaker 3>the shrink or something like that. Right, so, it basically

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<v Speaker 3>killed their desire to be in remote Alasket. They still

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<v Speaker 3>love the state, but it killed his and his wife's

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<v Speaker 3>desire to be out here. So he ended up putting

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<v Speaker 3>in for a transfer to a different department. He had

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<v Speaker 3>received the transfer not quite a year later, and they

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<v Speaker 3>moved away. This incident is a direct cause for them

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to leave the state. He's still in law enforcement.

415
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<v Speaker 3>I respect that. I won't say where they are or

416
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<v Speaker 3>anything like that. I do want to thank him for

417
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<v Speaker 3>his patience waiting to get back and forth. He wanted

418
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<v Speaker 3>me to convey to others, to share your experience. He said,

419
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<v Speaker 3>had he knew more, he would have not have been

420
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<v Speaker 3>so impacted by what they dealt with. He said, overall,

421
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:13.039
<v Speaker 3>it was real creepy, really strange, but there was no

422
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<v Speaker 3>outward violence towards them. There was no outward sign of aggression.

423
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.599
<v Speaker 3>It was creepy. It was watching them and stuff, but

424
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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't no rock throwing. There was no mind speaker,

425
00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:25.839
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff that you may hear about sometimes.

426
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<v Speaker 3>Had he known the potential was there, he said, it

427
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<v Speaker 3>would have been easier to deal with versus being confronted

428
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<v Speaker 3>with that. He said, I almost shot that thing five

429
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<v Speaker 3>or six times. I can understand. He said, it was very,

430
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<v Speaker 3>very difficult. Once they got back, he tried to share

431
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<v Speaker 3>with some personal friends and they just looked at him funny,

432
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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, oh, I must have been a really

433
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<v Speaker 3>big black bear. They were hearing them, but they were

434
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<v Speaker 3>changing the narrative, so he just let it be. And

435
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's a lot of people dealing with that.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Dylan, thank you Christina. They still have Rizzo.

437
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<v Speaker 3>She's an old lady now not long for this world,

438
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.839
<v Speaker 3>but they treat her like a chant. I like to

439
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<v Speaker 3>start off by saying rest in peace to Tom. He

440
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:12.720
<v Speaker 3>was a co host with William Jenning on America's Creek

441
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<v Speaker 3>Devil for quite a while. Tom was a really good

442
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.640
<v Speaker 3>guy and it reminds me of what an elber Thomas.

443
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<v Speaker 3>I shared some of his experiences here. What he told

444
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<v Speaker 3>me the last I talked to him was to love

445
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<v Speaker 3>your people. You never know because tomorrow isn't promised. Man,

446
00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I love your people go. Let petty disagreements cause a

447
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.759
<v Speaker 3>riff that just doesn't need to be there, pointless. What

448
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<v Speaker 3>I want to share with you today comes from the

449
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<v Speaker 3>Chistacchina River, which is a tributary to the Copper River.

450
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<v Speaker 3>This comes from Brad. He's a telecoms worker. What he

451
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<v Speaker 3>likes to do on his free time when he's not

452
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<v Speaker 3>doing all sorts of other stuff, is he likes to

453
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<v Speaker 3>take out his little dirt bite. They had a couple

454
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<v Speaker 3>of different ones. On this occasion. He had a little

455
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<v Speaker 3>YZ one twenty five, just a little rip around, easy

456
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<v Speaker 3>on the trails, easy on the gas, and he had

457
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<v Speaker 3>a modified gas tank on it. His plan was to

458
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<v Speaker 3>take the winter trail up along the Chistachina River, up

459
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<v Speaker 3>past Sinanoah Creek up to this cabin over there, and

460
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<v Speaker 3>there's a little bit of a gravel pad there and stuff.

461
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<v Speaker 3>So this was approximately we're going back about a decade

462
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<v Speaker 3>on this trip. He's having trouble right because the trail

463
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<v Speaker 3>was pretty unforgiving at that time. It was early in

464
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<v Speaker 3>the year, it was just before June. The trail was

465
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<v Speaker 3>not inducive for a motorbike, let alone a flour wheeler.

466
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<v Speaker 3>It was in that transition period where the snow is unstable,

467
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<v Speaker 3>it's melting. Grant you. He was up at about twenty

468
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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty feet. He's having a struggle with it,

469
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<v Speaker 3>and the following day a couple of his buddies are

470
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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be catching up with him, so he's going

471
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>to leave early. He wasn't worried about bears. It was

472
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<v Speaker 3>a little early in the season. He was armed. He

473
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 3>had a forty four mag on his hip, but he

474
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't concerned about bears. He was just trying to get out.

475
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<v Speaker 3>One of the reasons he wanted to is just to

476
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<v Speaker 3>explore Alaska. He no longer lives here, but that's because

477
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 3>of his work. He bounces from state to state doing

478
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>all this telecom's work with the fiber optics and shit

479
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.920
<v Speaker 3>like that. But while he was here, he wanted to

480
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<v Speaker 3>see as much of alask as possible. So his days

481
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<v Speaker 3>off before he went down Copper River had some Copper

482
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<v Speaker 3>River reds and all this, and he was just intrigued

483
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:21.279
<v Speaker 3>with the Copper River valley, so he wanted to continue that,

484
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and that's why he ended up here. Now, the highway

485
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>crosses there where he started this little journey, so he

486
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 3>just passed the gravel pits and all that kind of stuff,

487
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 3>and he comes over to where the bridge crosses the

488
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Chista China. He pulled off. He found a nice little

489
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.519
<v Speaker 3>place to tuck back that wasn't too visible from the road.

490
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<v Speaker 3>He yanks out at his bike and starts this journey.

491
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<v Speaker 3>I only laugh because I've been on trails too early

492
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 3>in the season. I know it can be a moh

493
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<v Speaker 3>Man he had no winch, no nothing. The bike ain't

494
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 3>overly heavy. He's got a big military backpack on. He's

495
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 3>got the pistol on his hip, he's got hip waiters

496
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<v Speaker 3>on and stuff for the muck and the mud and

497
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, and his helmet, and he's

498
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 3>battling each one of these little potholes he had come across.

499
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 3>He said it was just like two feet of mud,

500
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 3>but there was grass there. He said it was a

501
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 3>damned thing he ever dealt with. Now he's up at elevation,

502
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.000
<v Speaker 3>so those snows just melting right on through and going

503
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 3>on down. Horrible conditions for especially a little dirt bike.

504
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 3>He was undaunted. He bottomed out many times, had to

505
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 3>pull it out of the muck morentimes, and he said

506
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 3>he wanted to count, so it delayed him making progress.

507
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 3>It comes to this ravine that he already knows that

508
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>it's getting darker, graduous Land of the midnight Sun. So

509
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 3>don't misunderstand what I'm saying. It's getting darkness, and that

510
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 3>we still got night time in that time of year.

511
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<v Speaker 3>It's not quite full on Land of the midnight Sun,

512
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<v Speaker 3>even though it's staying light out up upwards at ten

513
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.759
<v Speaker 3>o'clock at night or longer. His reasoning for stopping there

514
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 3>was he was wiped out. He had been wrestling this

515
00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>damn dirt bike more than riding it, going off through

516
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.119
<v Speaker 3>these muck holes and stuff, so he was spent. Brad

517
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 3>said that when he decided he was just going to camp,

518
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>and he was just going to do a little spike camp,

519
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>just a little tark between two trees, to lay under

520
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.359
<v Speaker 3>little fire, get something to eat, and start off fresh,

521
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>bright and early. He's sitting and he's looking down into

522
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 3>this small ravine where the trail crosses and stuff, and

523
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>he already knew he was going to have to wrestle

524
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>this bike up the other side. So as he's sitting

525
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 3>there recounting his journey so far, he said, he's basically

526
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 3>contemplating in the morning instead of continuing on, just heading

527
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 3>back and wrestling on back and meeting his buddies, trying

528
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 3>to decide on a different place. It was a lot

529
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 3>of work. Right now at this point, there is no

530
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 3>there's no leaves on the trees. It's all open undergrowth

531
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. It's visibility is pretty good outside of the

532
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 3>black spruce and stuff like that. Now he's looking down

533
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 3>into this ravine as it's slowly getting darker and he's

534
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 3>just feeling himself. He nods off a couple of times

535
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>and he's ok up to a splashy sound. I was like,

536
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>what the hell is that? So he's looking around and

537
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 3>it's just dark enough. He can't see down in the

538
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 3>ravine anymore, but the sky is still pretty light, and

539
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 3>so he rummages around. He wants to make sure that

540
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't an early spring bear down below him, that

541
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>he's potentially just sleeping on, so to speak, because he

542
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to get eaten. So he rummages around, finds

543
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 3>a headlamp. So he puts a headlamp on, rummages around

544
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 3>some more, and he said he got his good flashlight.

545
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>It was about eight hundred lumens or something like that.

546
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 3>He was standing up at the edge and he hits

547
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the big beam, the eight hundred leman beam down into

548
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 3>this little ravine and he's looking with the way some

549
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 3>of the vegetation was along there. There wasn't no leaves,

550
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 3>but it was just so dense it was hard to

551
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 3>see through. But he saw a movement and he was like,

552
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>oh great, it is a bear. So he killed the

553
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 3>light because he didn't want to attract attention. So he

554
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 3>sat there listening, trying to anticipate is it moving up

555
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>towards me? Is it not? Which is a daunting thing.

556
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>You got to understand. He's sitting there listening, hoping this

557
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 3>bear doesn't come up to hill after him, and so

558
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 3>he's really unsettled. He drew his gun. He wasn't wanting

559
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>to have that kind of confrontation. He didn't want to

560
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>have to call the authorities and deal with all this stuff.

561
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 3>So he was really hoping this bear would just neander

562
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>on down the ravine and continue on down to the river.

563
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 3>He said, as he was sitting there listening to the

564
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>splashing the noises, he started what he called it sounded

565
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 3>like a little monkey or something because he was hearing

566
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 3>these little little sounds, little vocalizations that were really it

567
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 3>reminded him of the monkey house that he had visited.

568
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I think he said it was at Woodland Park Zoo

569
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>or something like that down in Seattle. So you know,

570
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>he was intrigued by that. So he stood up and

571
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>hit the light again, the eight hundred lumens, he said,

572
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Down in the ravine, he saw what he thought was

573
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>a little monkey boy. He said. It was hair covered,

574
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.799
<v Speaker 3>but not very thick hair. It looked very young, very small.

575
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>From his perspective looking down on it, it looked surprised,

576
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 3>looked up at him, and then bolted back up that ravine.

577
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 3>He said it moved fast. He startled. He's like, how

578
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>in the hell did a monkey get down there? Because

579
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 3>from his perspective, he was just like, was this chimpanzee

580
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>or whatever the hell it is doing down here? WHOA,

581
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>that's really trippy. I'm in the middle of freaking Alaska

582
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 3>and there's a monkey boy? What's going on here? Harry Man, Bigfoot,

583
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 3>none of that stuff. He always dismissed it as just whatever.

584
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>People bored and they just want to talk. Right. So

585
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.519
<v Speaker 3>he's sitting there and he gets out the phony hat

586
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and he's trying to look for signal.

587
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>No signal where he was at. I don't feel comfortable

588
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 3>sitting here. I want to check this monkey boy out.

589
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 3>He's not recognizing the potential dangers and what he's deciding

590
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to do. Those are his words, he said, man Fred,

591
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand the danger. I was putting myself ban in.

592
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna chase monkey boy. So he goes down,

593
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 3>turns on his headlamp instead of the bright light. But

594
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 3>he's got his gun and the bright light in his hand.

595
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 3>But he's using his headlamp to see, and he's trying

596
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 3>to go up to speak, and he's looking for traps.

597
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 3>He wants to see some of the tracks and maybe

598
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>take a pic of a track or something like that.

599
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 3>But everywhere he's looking it's just obscured by water. He

600
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 3>could tell it was disturbed because there's mud and stuff

601
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 3>in it.

602
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

603
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.519
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

604
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 3>He said. He made it about seventy five feet going

605
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>up this draw. He said it wasn't very far at all,

606
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of times he was staring down he

607
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 3>heard movement further up the draw, but it was at

608
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 3>a distance where he was just thinking, that's that little

609
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 3>monkey boy. And so he gets to a point to

610
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>where all of a sudden, he said, it was like

611
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 3>a wall of discomfort he ran into. He got to

612
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 3>a point and was just about to step up onto

613
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 3>this next little legend. He said he was overwhelmed by

614
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>this wall of don't do it right. So he stops

615
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 3>and he's trying to recognize is why he's so uncomfortable,

616
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 3>turns on his big light and he's flashing around off

617
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 3>to his flanks to check out around him, because he's

618
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>in a little ravine that has some pretty damn steep sides. Right,

619
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<v Speaker 3>He's sitting there, going, this is not good. I better

620
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>just retreat. So he's taking his steps with the headlamp on.

621
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 3>He's looking behind himself to watch his steps, and he's

622
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>keeping that bright light forward as he's turning around and

623
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>looking back and forth. One of the times he looked

624
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 3>back forward, he saw a glint of eyeshine then moved

625
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 3>into the brush. So he stops and he's looking back

626
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>up the draw at where the eye shine was. And

627
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 3>as he's doing so, he said, that's when the little

628
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 3>monkey boy crept out, looked at him again, doing this

629
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 3>number with his hand, and then duck back. He said,

630
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>it was the most surreal odd thing to be in

631
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 3>remote ask and see this. Right. I asked him what

632
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 3>it looked like, and he said it looked like a

633
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 3>little boy slash kind of monkey ish. He said. The

634
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 3>teeth out a little bit bulbous, just below the nose,

635
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>not like a snout at all, just real big teeth

636
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>in a mouth. He also said that it was a

637
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 3>very light tan kind of buckskin color, didn't look wrinkly.

638
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>It looked fresh face, like bright faced, young looking hair

639
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 3>that went from the nose, not around the mouth, nothing

640
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>around the mouth. But he said the cheeks were exposed

641
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 3>up onto the forehead and it had the look of

642
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 3>almost partial caveman. He's really enthralled at this point, but

643
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 3>he's still got this discomfort, he said. He just couldn't

644
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 3>let go of he felt so uncomfortable. So even though

645
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>he's intrigued, he continues looking back and moving, just getting

646
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 3>out of there. He said, just as he was about

647
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 3>to get to where he came down from above where

648
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 3>his camp was, he was standing there because he heard

649
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 3>louder noises that wasn't the same as the noise as

650
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 3>he heard little monkey boy making. And again I'm only

651
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 3>saying a little monkey boy, because that's what Brad said.

652
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 3>He just kept saying that little monkey boy this and that.

653
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So just bear with me. As he gets to a point,

654
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.960
<v Speaker 3>he's looking back up this draw towards the last place

655
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 3>he's seen in this little monkey Boy, he said, as

656
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 3>he's doing so between where he was and where that

657
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>point was in the light that was beaming, he heard

658
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 3>and saw debris and rocks and dirt and stuff sloped

659
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 3>down into this little draw. So immediately he turns and

660
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 3>points up, he said. When he pointed up onto the

661
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 3>opposite side of the bank, he said, he saw the

662
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 3>largest being he's ever seen in his life. He said

663
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>it was so massive it was pitch black. When he

664
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>beamed up, it gave red eyeshine back, but his face

665
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 3>was so dark he couldn't make out features other than

666
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 3>it was humanoid. He's literally in shock, staring up. He's

667
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>got his gun in his hand, but he said, in

668
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>that instant that gun was non existent. He was just like,

669
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 3>what am I looking at? He said, As he was

670
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>doing that, Oh crap, what am I really seeing? He said,

671
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:10.000
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, the loudest scream came out of nowhere.

672
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>He said it didn't come from the one he was

673
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 3>looking at, because that one just stayed still looking down

674
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 3>at him. He said, he couldn't pinpoint exactly where, but

675
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 3>it enveloped that whole area was just loud as shit. Scream,

676
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 3>he said. He immediately stumbled back. He fell. He had

677
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 3>dropped the pistol and scampered up the hill. Now when

678
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 3>he gets up to the top of the hill he

679
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 3>realized this he dropped his gun. When he calmed down,

680
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>he said. The amount of time from when he got

681
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 3>to the top of the hill to when he calmed down,

682
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 3>he could not say. Couldn't say how long it took.

683
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a good time for him because he was

684
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>running around. He didn't know what to do. He was

685
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>freaked out. He kept hiding behind little trees and behind brush.

686
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>He was so uncomfortable. He just wanted to run and hide,

687
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 3>and there was really nowhere for him to hide. He said,

688
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 3>after he calmed down and him that his gun is

689
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 3>down in the ravine and he might want to have that.

690
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 3>He said, it was the hardest trip he ever had

691
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 3>to make in his life to retrieve it. He didn't

692
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 3>know where these things were because after the scream and

693
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 3>he scrambled up the hill and everything it was quiet,

694
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>dead quiet. He kept turning off and on his bright

695
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 3>light as needed, but his headlamp died. So when he

696
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 3>decided I need that gun, he started down. Now he

697
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.639
<v Speaker 3>was turning on the light and then turning it off

698
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and sleughing and sliding down this hill. He said it

699
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>wasn't overly steep, but he felt he needed to be

700
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>as far away while trying to get closer as possible,

701
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 3>which we all have our little quarts when we're under pressure.

702
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 3>He gets down there, he looks around and he sees it.

703
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.159
<v Speaker 3>He picks up the pistol. He opens it and looks

704
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 3>and is shaking the water off that basically and making

705
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 3>sure there's nothing in the barrel and they'll mutter any obstruction.

706
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 3>He shuts it, tucks it back in the holster, and

707
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 3>then backs up the hill, back up to where he

708
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 3>was camping. He said that whole time, however long it took,

709
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 3>he has no idea, because he said there was moments

710
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 3>he would move quickly. In other moments it was so

711
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.239
<v Speaker 3>hard to move he had to force himself to move.

712
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>But he felt he needed something. That gun that was

713
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 3>the only thing he had. So once he was back

714
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>up top, Brad said, as he was sitting there, he's

715
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 3>evaluating should I hike out instead of wrestling the bike.

716
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to wrestle this bike if these things

717
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 3>are around and they potentially chase me, because that's where

718
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 3>his mind went. His mind went to they may chase me.

719
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>So what he decides to do is to fire up

720
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 3>the bike and his waym winded out a few times

721
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 3>and let that reverberate through the little ravine and stuff.

722
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 3>He figured out, I'm gonna scare these things off with

723
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>the noise of the dirt bike a little two cyclics.

724
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 3>So he fires it up and he does this thing.

725
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 3>He's not paying attention to his fuel consumption. He's just

726
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 3>wrapping that bitch out man. He was just doing everything

727
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>he could to in his own mind get these things

728
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 3>to leave. So he does that for a while, kills it,

729
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 3>and he's feeling better. He said no sooner than he

730
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 3>put the kickstand down and leaned it to where it

731
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't fall over, and was sitting there happy. Okay, that

732
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 3>made noise. Everything's gone from around me, right from down

733
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 3>in the ravine below him. Another scream, he said. The

734
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 3>second scream sounded far more angry. He said it had

735
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 3>this tone of a roar and a growl at the

736
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>same time, versus just a high pitched, reverberating, loud ass

737
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 3>like woman getting murdered screamed like the first one was.

738
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 3>He said that really bothered him. He said he was

739
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 3>so uncomfortable. He was damn near in the fetal position,

740
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>his pistols holstered. He's holding the flashlight, it's not on,

741
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 3>and he's basically squirming into the fetal position next to

742
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 3>this bike. He's scared to death. He's full of indecision.

743
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 3>He said. He couldn't move forward, backward, left, right. All

744
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 3>he could do was his best to make himself as

745
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 3>small as possible. I get that, understand that that kind

746
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>of fear, it can be very crippling and indecision as

747
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>a bitch man. He said. He's not sure how long

748
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 3>he was tucked like that. He wasn't sure, but it

749
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 3>had to have been a while, because at some point

750
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 3>he started shivering. It was cold. He's up at twenty

751
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty feet it's still late spring. There's

752
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 3>still melting snow just above him in elevation, and everything's wet,

753
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 3>right of course, Yeah, he's soaking wet. He's shivering on

754
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 3>the ground, and the shivering on the ground motivated him

755
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.199
<v Speaker 3>to sit up, he said. Once he sat up and

756
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 3>was reassessing the situation, he said he kept hearing a

757
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 3>noise like directly across the ravine from him, a little

758
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 3>twig snapping, dirt shuffling down the sidewall, things like this,

759
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But it was dark. He wanted to look with the

760
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>big light, but he was scared to He didn't want

761
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to evoke some kind of attack or something. Pinpoint is

762
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 3>exact location, which these things probably already knew right where

763
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 3>he was. As he was sitting there deciding whether or

764
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 3>not he was going to turn this light on, he

765
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 3>drew his gun again just in case, And when he

766
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 3>turned on the light, he didn't directly point it across.

767
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 3>He was examining the pistol again, making sure it was

768
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 3>okay and operational. He rotated the hammer a couple times

769
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.199
<v Speaker 3>to turn the cylinder to make sure it was functioning.

770
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Holding the gun, he decides, all right, I'll do it now.

771
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 3>When he heard some sleughing noises of come to cross

772
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 3>that little ravine there, he points the light up, he said.

773
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 3>When he pointed the light across, he saw the silhouette

774
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>of the big black one, he said, this time, when

775
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 3>he saw it, he could see the sheen of the

776
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 3>light on the hair. He could see the skin under

777
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>the hair. This thing wasn't looking directly at the light

778
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it was looking down. He said. It almost seemed it

779
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 3>was like a nuisance. He said, the vibe he picked

780
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 3>up felt like this thing was just annoyed by him,

781
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>but not threatened by him. So this thing is looking

782
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 3>down as he's trying to examine it, he said. As

783
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 3>he's looking at it, he could see around the face

784
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 3>is really dark gray, like a very ashen dark gray,

785
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 3>almost like wet cement, little darker. From what he could tell,

786
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 3>it was the flat face, very big, wid set jaw,

787
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 3>but he was seeing it partially in profile and partially

788
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 3>obscured by distance and the effect of the light. It

789
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 3>was a little warped as far as what he was

790
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>picking up, but the skin tone and stuff is pretty

791
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>confident on. At one point, he said, it looked over

792
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 3>at him and gave a glare, get that light out

793
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>of my face, and so he pointed the light down

794
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.480
<v Speaker 3>by its lower extremities, by his feet, he said, as

795
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 3>he was watching it, it stood up and walked up

796
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 3>the hill backwards, looking back down at him. Basically, he's

797
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 3>shining at his feet. He noticed it stands up because

798
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 3>it's still some light up above there. And then once

799
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>it does, he's following it with that light, and it

800
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 3>backed up the hill on the opposite side, looking at him,

801
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>and then once it got up to a certain point,

802
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>it just turned and walked off to his left. He said.

803
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>He sat there just listening, just listening to this thing

804
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 3>moved through the brush and he could tell it it

805
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.079
<v Speaker 3>moved well up onto that ravine for the backup in there.

806
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 3>He said he'd turned off the light for a second

807
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>and was just so relieved that this thing wasn't actively

808
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 3>trying to get him. It moved away even with the

809
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 3>annoyance of the light. It was obviously doing some other

810
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 3>stuff and not worried about Brad. So it went off,

811
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 3>he said. He calmed down. He sat there just quiet

812
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and sense relief over him. Okay, they're not actively going

813
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 3>to get me, Otherwise they could have, right, so, he said.

814
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>As he was sitting there and it started getting lighter,

815
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 3>he heard that little split splash again from monkey Boy,

816
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 3>as he called it, and he was like, I don't

817
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 3>want to, but I really want to see this thing

818
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 3>one more time. He decides, Okay, I'm going to stand

819
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 3>up and I'm going to shine down there and see

820
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 3>if I could see this monkey Boy. He stands up

821
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 3>he beams the light down there, he doesn't see anything.

822
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't see a damn thing. What he does see, however,

823
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 3>is a branch. So out of his view of what

824
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 3>he could see behind some of the brush and stuff,

825
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 3>this thing had a branch and was splashing the water

826
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<v Speaker 3>with the branch, making the noises. He said it almost

827
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<v Speaker 3>seemed when he looked at it, the first thing he

828
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 3>thought was, it's almost like it's luring some kind of interaction,

829
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 3>like it's trying to entice me to interact. He said

830
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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't going for none of that. He doesn't know

831
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 3>what the intent was or if it was just hiding

832
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 3>tracks with a stick. He didn't know. He couldn't see

833
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the being doing it, but it was obvious it was

834
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 3>being used with intelligence to do something down in this

835
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>little ravine. He said that it was very hard to

836
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 3>walk away from that. He felt compelled that he wanted

837
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 3>to go and engage. And then Brad said he turned around,

838
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 3>fired up the dirt bike again and was shining the

839
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 3>light and realized he had ate up a lot of

840
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 3>gas just sitting there reving that thing. Right, so he

841
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 3>kills it real quick because he wants to save gas.

842
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 3>He felt relief because that big one moved away, and

843
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 3>obviously they weren't actively trying to get him, and so

844
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 3>he calmed down, waited for it to get a little

845
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 3>lighter out, and then fired up and followed his back

846
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>trail as best he could, he said, when he got

847
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 3>back over to where he basically started his little journey,

848
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 3>he said that he doesn't remember how many times he

849
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 3>had to wrestle the bike back through the mud. The

850
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 3>second time, he said he was overtired. He didn't get

851
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 3>virtually no sleep. It was freezing cold from being wet,

852
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 3>wrestling this bike for hours on end on the way

853
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 3>in and then on the way back out. He lost count.

854
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<v Speaker 3>When he got back to where his truck was, and

855
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>it actually wasn't even as truck. It was a loaner truck.

856
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 3>It was basically a company truck. That was a sign

857
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 3>to him. So he gets over there and he's so

858
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.800
<v Speaker 3>exhausted that he lays the bike down and just falls

859
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 3>asleep in the bed of the truck. He said the

860
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 3>keys were somewhere, but the doors were locked. He wasn't

861
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 3>going to dig forever. He was so wiped out. He

862
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>just curled up in the fetal position. In the bed

863
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 3>of the truck and fell asleep. He said he was

864
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 3>woken up by his buddies. He heard them pulling in

865
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 3>and he heard them laughing, What the hell is this?

866
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 3>They thought Brad had got drunk and maybe wiped out

867
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>his bike, so initially they laughed until they saw him

868
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 3>and saw he was pale and stressed looking and just

869
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 3>dirty as hell and all wet. Then they were like,

870
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 3>are you okay? They thought he wiped out real bad

871
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 3>and maybe he was in need of medical attention. He

872
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm okay, I'm okay. He said. He broke

873
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 3>down crying on the tailgate of this truck because he

874
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't know how to share what he just dealt with

875
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 3>these guys. They asked him what happened. He basically told

876
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<v Speaker 3>them a lion, said I was chased by a brown bear,

877
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 3>and he left it at that. The guys are like, oh, geez, man,

878
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 3>are you okay. They're checking him out for any claw

879
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.039
<v Speaker 3>marks or anything like that. He said, I outran the bear.

880
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 3>It finally stopped, but it really freaked me out, and

881
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 3>that's what he told these coworkers. He ended up going

882
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>back to work just fine. There was a couple other

883
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 3>spots remote up near Fairbanks where he really had a

884
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 3>hard time with PTSD type stuff, being near the trees.

885
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 3>He said he was able to overcome it because he

886
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 3>would reassure himself they didn't attack me. I'm okay, I'm

887
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>okay that kind of thing. I want to thank Brad

888
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 3>for coming forward. He was real nervous about the nature

889
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 3>of his job, so I told him I'd be very

890
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 3>generic or I could leave it out. He said, as

891
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>long as you're generic about it, that's fine. Again. Thank

892
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you Brad for sharing that. Again. Love your people. Tomorrow's

893
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 3>not promised again. Rest in peace, tom really great guy.

894
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>When I first started this channel, I wanted to incorporate

895
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 3>missing people, not to say, oh, the Harry Man snatched

896
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 3>this person or that, just in general as hey, these

897
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 3>are the people missing right now. I was trying to

898
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 3>get context for that. He tried to help me. We

899
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 3>were trying to look into nine on one calls and

900
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 3>this other stuff, and it turned out he found out

901
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 3>for me that without a FOIA acting, even with if

902
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 3>it comes to an open case, you're not getting anything

903
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>but that little bulletin, which doesn't tell much. It really doesn't.

904
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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't give no context to the missing again. Love

905
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 3>your people, man, you never know tomorrow promise, Thank you

906
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>guys for joining me. We'll catch you on the next one.

907
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<v Speaker 1>They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

908
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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be. We're all out there trying

909
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 4>this job. That time everything came right back, crying back

910
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<v Speaker 4>for joy, for me, joy staying right. You come it

911
00:48:23.199 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 4>right away, still step instrums moss Stass games used US

912
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<v Speaker 4>inst
