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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed
Speaker 2: your dog? My dog? We're flying through there over the tree.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 2: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 2: the fence, and they would have dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the ground. I didn't have seen any cars. All I
Speaker 2: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Are you
Speaker 2: reporting we got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 2: Did you see what it was? It enough out here?
Speaker 2: Look him new to window now and I don't see anything.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go outside. Point hello, hit somebody
Speaker 2: out here? What quent on out there? It's thought of
Speaker 2: a bit of about sixty nine. I don't know easy
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, I'm right head A.
Speaker 3: Greetings spread Alaska, thanks for joining me today. What I
Speaker 3: wanted to share with you today comes from the Yukon River,
Speaker 3: just south of where the Richardson Cross is it. This
Speaker 3: comes from Dylan and Christina, former Alaskan residents. They no
Speaker 3: longer live here. Dylan put in a transfer from his
Speaker 3: position he had then and that's why they moved. This
Speaker 3: was one of the catalysts. They had reserved a cabin
Speaker 3: just south of Big Salt River. It was where the
Speaker 3: Big Salt comes into the Yukon where they meet. There's
Speaker 3: a little cabin there. They were there for approximately a week.
Speaker 3: They had planned on being there for two weeks because
Speaker 3: he wanted to use up every bit of his paid leave.
Speaker 3: They wanted to do it somewhere remote and reset. Dylan's
Speaker 3: job was high stress, had to do with the law
Speaker 3: enforcement arena. After a week of just basically milling around
Speaker 3: this cabin, d compressing, taking naps in the middle of
Speaker 3: the day, they had a little portable DVD player they
Speaker 3: would charge up every day with their small generator and stuff.
Speaker 3: They were just enjoying themselves. A couple days before the
Speaker 3: incident happened on their height, they had their dog with them.
Speaker 3: Her name was Rizzo. She was a little pitbull mixed,
Speaker 3: very loyal, very happy dog. From what they were saying,
Speaker 3: Rizzo was approximately six years old at this time. Now
Speaker 3: there's a smaller little creek. It cuts back up into
Speaker 3: the mountain and it just gains elevation as it's going,
Speaker 3: so it's really hard hiking. They were both athletic, they
Speaker 3: didn't mind. Dylan was carrying a firearm he had himself,
Speaker 3: I believe he said it was the four fifty four cassule,
Speaker 3: and also she had a backpacker shotgun slung over her shoulders,
Speaker 3: so they were loaded for barrisoa speak had they needed
Speaker 3: to make use of firearms. So they're approximately five hours
Speaker 3: into this hike. Because they're gaining elevation, they got steep sides.
Speaker 3: The mountain directly behind the cabin is only like eleven
Speaker 3: and thirty feet or something like that. It's not overly
Speaker 3: huge by any means, but with all the thick vegetation,
Speaker 3: and they're going up this little draw that kind of
Speaker 3: hooks back around the back side of this mountain, it
Speaker 3: was trying. It was very technical. Train for anyone who
Speaker 3: does hiking of any kind, it would be up there
Speaker 3: on the spectrum of difficulty. So basically what they're doing
Speaker 3: is going up this dried up creek bed from runoffs,
Speaker 3: and they would have to come off of the creek
Speaker 3: and go around certain little drops and things of this nature.
Speaker 3: So it was taking them time, but they were enjoying it.
Speaker 3: So Dylan said they got to a certain point, and
Speaker 3: Rizzo started behaving strangely, the same strange behavior they had
Speaker 3: witnessed at the cabin a couple of days prior. She
Speaker 3: would spin in a c bark at them and kind
Speaker 3: of lunge at them, but not showing her teeth, but
Speaker 3: barking at them, like trying to get their attention, like
Speaker 3: jumping towards me in this real panicked way. And she
Speaker 3: would run in a circle and do it again. And
Speaker 3: she kept doing that and doing it again. Of course,
Speaker 3: they got more alert because the dog was acting squirrely,
Speaker 3: but the dog wasn't alerting anywhere. The dog was alerting
Speaker 3: to them, basically getting their attention. They chalked it up
Speaker 3: to her just being spun ky and being away from
Speaker 3: home or whatever. They weren't picking up on those subtle cues.
Speaker 3: Another couple hours in after her little the asshole of
Speaker 3: running in a circle. After they calmed her down from
Speaker 3: that and they continued on, Dylan and Christina both said
Speaker 3: that Rizzo was like very focused in front of them.
Speaker 3: She kept going up further, looking around, sniffing the air,
Speaker 3: and then would turn around look at them, and as
Speaker 3: soon as they got closer to us, she would do
Speaker 3: the same thing, So it was like she was going
Speaker 3: ahead of them a little ways checking things out. She
Speaker 3: was obviously on alert for something. They recognized it, but
Speaker 3: they didn't realize what it was for because it was
Speaker 3: the vegetation was so thick. This was mid July, land
Speaker 3: of the midnight sun. It's not like it was getting
Speaker 3: dark anytime soon. They're looking around. Maybe there's a bear
Speaker 3: day up in here we're unaware of. Maybe we should
Speaker 3: back off right, So they decided they're smelling the air,
Speaker 3: they're listening. They're not hearing anything. There's no songbirds going
Speaker 3: on or anything, which twenty twenty hindsight Dylan said he
Speaker 3: should have picked up on that queue. But they were
Speaker 3: having such a good time, so they decided we'll go
Speaker 3: a little further. There's a little bit of a shelf
Speaker 3: that they could see from where they were coming up.
Speaker 3: They wanted to get up on that little shelf and
Speaker 3: have a little picnic style lunch right there. So they
Speaker 3: get up to that point. While they're up on this
Speaker 3: little shelf, it's far more vegetation than they realized. If
Speaker 3: from their vantage point it looked fairly flat level and
Speaker 3: vegetation free. But once they got up there. The grass
Speaker 3: was four foot tall. There's a brush around and stuff,
Speaker 3: so they kind of walked around peck and the grass
Speaker 3: down so they could see over back down into this
Speaker 3: draw to witness the accomplishment. They may coming up that
Speaker 3: damn thing again eleven and some feet. The trying aspect
Speaker 3: of it was coming down of the creek up on
Speaker 3: these steep walls, trying to make a path. They're just
Speaker 3: breaking trail. Christina starts digging out the lunch stuff, and
Speaker 3: Dylan's getting out his little cookie stove. I think he
Speaker 3: was using some kind of fuel, whether it be sterno
Speaker 3: or something like that, to heat up water. They had
Speaker 3: some freeze dried soup stuff they were going to make.
Speaker 3: Rizzo at this time was laying down next to Christina
Speaker 3: and kept looking further up that draw and was just
Speaker 3: fixated on it. Okay, we'll pay attention to her, but
Speaker 3: let's tend to what we're doing. The way they stumped
Speaker 3: on the grass and stuff, Dylan said he felt he
Speaker 3: had at least enough visible range if a bear did
Speaker 3: come in on him that he had time to react. Christina,
Speaker 3: where she was sitting, she had that backpacker shotgun right
Speaker 3: on her lap, it wasn't technically a backpacker. It was
Speaker 3: a Maverick eighty eight twelve gage. They were loaded for bear.
Speaker 3: They had some slugs in there. So as she's sitting
Speaker 3: there with the shotgun, he's working on the soup, Rizzo
Speaker 3: stands up, circles them a couple times, circles them, and
Speaker 3: as she's circling them, wherever she's at in the position
Speaker 3: of the circle, she's looking back up that draw and
Speaker 3: she's walking around. Dylan and Christina strange behavior again. They
Speaker 3: start paying attention. Dylan, Yes, Christina, can you please watch
Speaker 3: the soup that's boiling, stirred or whatever. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: walk over this direction that she keeps looking and take
Speaker 3: a closer look. She said, fine, be careful, watch out
Speaker 3: for the bears. Don't get eaten by a bear. And
Speaker 3: they both kind of chuckle. He draws his four fifty
Speaker 3: four so he has it in hand so he's not
Speaker 3: jumped by the bear if it's real close, he said.
Speaker 3: As he moved forward towards the brushwork dropped down back
Speaker 3: into the draw, he said he noticed across the draw
Speaker 3: from them. He said, it had to have been probably
Speaker 3: two hundred yards. He knows this real dark dot in
Speaker 3: the green foliage. It looked like a super dark shadow.
Speaker 3: It had no shape because it was just black and
Speaker 3: it was across the way, so he just took it
Speaker 3: as a real dark shadow. Maybe there's a cave over there,
Speaker 3: he starts rationalizing, maybe it's a cave where a bear
Speaker 3: is hold up, and maybe after our lunch we'll just
Speaker 3: get out of here. And so he looks over at
Speaker 3: that spot a little while. He's not saying anything, so
Speaker 3: he goes back over and resumes what he's doing. He
Speaker 3: tells Christina about it, and she walks over after he
Speaker 3: takes over the soup thing just during it and keep
Speaker 3: an eye on it. She walks over and that's when
Speaker 3: she's looking at the same thing, and she says, hey,
Speaker 3: that big dark spot is moving. He was thrown off.
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, it was just a shadow. You
Speaker 3: sure the winding blown over there or something, again, rationalizing it.
Speaker 3: She said, no, it's moving. And then Rizzo starts doing
Speaker 3: this number again in a small circle Barkin and not
Speaker 3: lunging at her, but like jumping towards her, getting her attention.
Speaker 3: She's ignoring Rizzo because she's watching this black dot across
Speaker 3: the way now, Dylan said, he stopped the cooking process.
Speaker 3: He just put the lid on the top, set it
Speaker 3: off to the side and put the lid on the
Speaker 3: stern or or whatever to stop that process. And he
Speaker 3: went over and stood next to her, and they watched
Speaker 3: this dark, very dark, black shadow coming down through the trees.
Speaker 3: And again it's broken up. You can see it, and
Speaker 3: then you can't see it because the vegetation, the growth
Speaker 3: is just crazy with all the willows and the popper
Speaker 3: and stuff. They're just looking, what are we looking at here?
Speaker 3: It looks like a big black bear. He felt a
Speaker 3: little better thinking it was a large black bear because
Speaker 3: with what they had, they'd take care of a black
Speaker 3: bear if they had to, no problem. So he was like, okay,
Speaker 3: it's just a black bear. Again, he starts rationalizing, no wonder,
Speaker 3: Rizzo is acting funny. It probably dends up up here,
Speaker 3: and maybe it came close to the cabin for a
Speaker 3: couple of days. They're explaining everything away and putting it
Speaker 3: on this black bear being in the area. They feel
Speaker 3: a lot more relaxed because of their initial assumption. Right,
Speaker 3: although Rizzo has not stopped running around in a circle
Speaker 3: and barking back towards them, again, not lunging at them,
Speaker 3: but lunging towards them, trying to get their attention. And
Speaker 3: again they're just like girls, settled down. We know, we're
Speaker 3: trying to reassure the dog that they RECOGNI there is
Speaker 3: a potential threat. But again, they thought it was a
Speaker 3: black bear. They had no clue of what was going on.
Speaker 3: They go over. They each have one of those big
Speaker 3: aluminum cups that you can drink coffee out of or
Speaker 3: put your soup in, so they split the soup up,
Speaker 3: and they had some Sylla Boy crackers and they're dipping
Speaker 3: the crackers in the soup and they're talking. Of course, Dylan,
Speaker 3: knowing that potential black bear's over there, he's eating quickly
Speaker 3: and he's keeping his eye focused over there. And again
Speaker 3: Rizzo was going in a circle but ended up laying
Speaker 3: down facing that direction, just grumping and grumbling every once
Speaker 3: in a while, not a full on growl, but just
Speaker 3: little little noises. And they would pay attention to that,
Speaker 3: but they were eating. They were a little too relaxed
Speaker 3: about it, from what Dylan said, and that's twenty twenty hindsight,
Speaker 3: of course, he said, had he known what was about
Speaker 3: the transpire, they would have already been on their way
Speaker 3: back down as the crow flies. The distance between the
Speaker 3: cabin they're staying in and where they're at is not
Speaker 3: that far. It's really not that far, less than a mile,
Speaker 3: not very far. The majority of that distance would be
Speaker 3: eaten up in the curve that they walked in a
Speaker 3: straight line. It's not far at all, probably less than
Speaker 3: a half mile, maybe a little more. He finishes eating,
Speaker 3: and he does it real quickly, and he noticed himself
Speaker 3: something was drawing his attention back over into this draw.
Speaker 3: He said, about twenty feet in elevation above the draw,
Speaker 3: the way it's going up the mountain. He finished up
Speaker 3: pretty quickly and used his water jug, rinsed out his
Speaker 3: little cup, plung the water, put everything away, and Christina
Speaker 3: was just finishing up, and he took her stuff, cleaned
Speaker 3: it up for her real quick, put it in her
Speaker 3: pack for They stand up, and they're just standing there
Speaker 3: a minute to let the soup and stuff settle. They
Speaker 3: didn't want to start hiking immediately and get cramps. And
Speaker 3: they're discussing that black bear. It's probably going to be
Speaker 3: making its way towards us, and this was a topic
Speaker 3: of the conversation from when they first saw it, and
Speaker 3: then they kind of unknowingly set themselves up for an encounter,
Speaker 3: which they could have probably avoided had they left immediately
Speaker 3: upon seeing this dark shadow coming down. But again they
Speaker 3: assumed it was a black bear. They said, nah, we'll
Speaker 3: take our chances. We got firearms. We're up here to
Speaker 3: enjoy the beauty of the place. Dylan takes the lead
Speaker 3: and they go back down the trail that they made
Speaker 3: coming up onto this little shelf to have their lunch.
Speaker 3: And when they got down back to that creek, he
Speaker 3: starts looking back up to draw looking for where this
Speaker 3: bear might be, and sure enough, just almost out of you,
Speaker 3: because it curves off to his left. From his vantage
Speaker 3: point facing uphill, he sees the big black shape up there,
Speaker 3: and he goes, okay, I got eyes on it. I
Speaker 3: got eyes on it. And Rizzo comes down and again
Speaker 3: gets in front of him and is spinning around and
Speaker 3: jotting towards him, really trying her best to get his attention.
Speaker 3: He's recognizing, but he also has eyes on this thing,
Speaker 3: so he's not fully engaging the dog. He tells Christina,
Speaker 3: get the dog. Get the dog. So she puts the
Speaker 3: lead on the dog, the big black dot. As soon
Speaker 3: as she clicks the leash on, this thing stands up
Speaker 3: Dylan's It took probably ten seconds for him to comprehend
Speaker 3: what he was looking at. This thing was silhouetted. The
Speaker 3: sun was back behind the mountain off to their right.
Speaker 3: It was high up in the sky the way the
Speaker 3: sun was coming down with all the vegetation, this thing
Speaker 3: was just dark and silhouetted. So he's watching, and this
Speaker 3: thing steps out more from the brush where he can
Speaker 3: see a humanoid shape right. He said. The approximate distance
Speaker 3: was probably about sixty five yards. This thing was big,
Speaker 3: he said. He watched it because of the light behind it.
Speaker 3: He watched it take two steps, very short steps. He said.
Speaker 3: It looked awkward the way the movement looked very awkward.
Speaker 3: But it crossed across the creek bed and squatted back
Speaker 3: down right in the brush that was a little less
Speaker 3: sunlight penetrating it, and squatted down and was facing their
Speaker 3: direction like it was watching. He's standing there. He's got
Speaker 3: his pistol in his hand. He doesn't remember drawing it,
Speaker 3: but he remembers holding it, and he had it cocked
Speaker 3: all that happened autopilot from his training and stuff. He
Speaker 3: has his firearm cocked and he wants to point in
Speaker 3: that direction, but something's telling him just leave. As he's
Speaker 3: contemplating this, Christina's behind him saying, what do you see?
Speaker 3: What do you see? Because she had him in front
Speaker 3: of her and she couldn't see nothing, so she focused
Speaker 3: on putting the lead on the dog, and then her
Speaker 3: view of what was going on was obstructed with Dylan
Speaker 3: standing there in the way, so she takes a few
Speaker 3: steps back away from Dylan. Rizzo's going in a circle,
Speaker 3: not barking, making this weird whimper growl, in a circle,
Speaker 3: in a circle. It's making a jingling sound with the
Speaker 3: collar and the chain the way the leash is connected.
Speaker 3: So she's trying to comfort the dog. Dylan turns around
Speaker 3: and tells her, let's start moving. Let's start moving down
Speaker 3: the trail. You start, I'm coming right behind you, but
Speaker 3: let's start. As he's facing her real briefly, this thing
Speaker 3: lets out a very sharp, short whoop. He said it
Speaker 3: was sol but so short. It was a very powerful sound,
Speaker 3: but it was just very brief.
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Speaker 3: He said that whoop. He could hear it echo across
Speaker 3: the Yukon River and back. How quick and sharp it was.
Speaker 3: It was very loud, startled, and he turned around. He's
Speaker 3: pointing the gun right back up in the direction and
Speaker 3: he no longer sees this thing where it was because
Speaker 3: it was easy to pick out. It was darker than
Speaker 3: the shadows it was trying to hide in, and he
Speaker 3: didn't see it there. Rizzo doing the thing again, running
Speaker 3: in a circle and hopping towards Christina jumps and bites
Speaker 3: her by her raincoat that she was wearing and starts
Speaker 3: pulling her down back down trail. So she's listening to
Speaker 3: the dog that got this weird whoop. She still hasn't
Speaker 3: seen anything, so from her vantage point, she's just gonna
Speaker 3: take the dog's lead, so to speak. She starts down
Speaker 3: the trail, and Dylan said he took a few steps
Speaker 3: and turned around back up to look from when he
Speaker 3: turned around to tell her to get moving, this thing
Speaker 3: must have crossed because it was back on the opposite side,
Speaker 3: a little closer to them, and he saw it because
Speaker 3: it was leaning out, peeking towards them again. Fully silhouetted.
Speaker 3: He couldn't give a description of the face. He said
Speaker 3: his heart skipped to beat because the way this thing
Speaker 3: was leaning out and looking at him. He felt being
Speaker 3: law enforcement, he was versed in dealing with shady incidents, right,
Speaker 3: so I trust what he felt, and it was nothing nice.
Speaker 3: He felt there was something sinister about that. He didn't
Speaker 3: want to just open fire on potentially some just some
Speaker 3: weirdo or something. So he figured, okay, we'll just retreat
Speaker 3: out of here. Again, not fully realizing just what's going
Speaker 3: on because again very limited vision of it, silhouetted. He
Speaker 3: did see it cross, but again, when you're rationalizing things away,
Speaker 3: there's some indecisions sometimes, right. So he said about forty
Speaker 3: to fifty feet on their back trail that as they
Speaker 3: were going down, Christina had a pretty decent lead on him.
Speaker 3: He stopped and turned around, and when he did, one
Speaker 3: of the spots where Rizzo was circling, she had pitdled
Speaker 3: on the ground. When he turned back around to look
Speaker 3: back up again, just forty fifty feet, not far at all.
Speaker 3: He turns around to look, this thing was over sniffing
Speaker 3: the air, low to the ground. He said, it looks
Speaker 3: like it was trying to do a push up. Very dark.
Speaker 3: He couldn't make out any features other than it looked humanoid,
Speaker 3: and it looked like it was down in a push
Speaker 3: up position, just sniffing the air just above the ground.
Speaker 3: He said, it was the most prepast surreal thing he
Speaker 3: had ever seen in his life. Coming from law enforcement.
Speaker 3: I could imagine he's seen some crazy stuff. He's pointing
Speaker 3: that gun back up at it, and as soon as
Speaker 3: this thing sees him holding the gun pointing at him,
Speaker 3: it stands up and darts uphill off to his right
Speaker 3: hand side, he said, into the thickest part of the brush.
Speaker 3: This thing was poom gone. He could hear this thing
Speaker 3: making noise. He was thinking, initially, leaf, Okay, it's running away.
Speaker 3: Whatever in the hell it is going away from us.
Speaker 3: It gets uphill a little ways, about half the distance
Speaker 3: to the top in banks to the right, circling cutting
Speaker 3: back across the hillside towards where Christina is right. She
Speaker 3: had stopped and she was watching what he was seeing,
Speaker 3: and the whole time she could hear it running. She
Speaker 3: had her shotgun pointed in that direction. The dog is
Speaker 3: spinning a circle and started barking real out so Dylan
Speaker 3: catches up to her says, let's get moving. So they're listening.
Speaker 3: It's off to their left. Now they're listening to this thing.
Speaker 3: Dylan said. It sounded like it was running back and forth,
Speaker 3: but it was really hard to make out because it
Speaker 3: wasn't a constant run back and forth. It would make
Speaker 3: noise and go silent, and then it would make noise
Speaker 3: again and go silent. So they're basically constantly checking their
Speaker 3: back trail all around them as they make their way
Speaker 3: back down. Well, once they've got back down by where
Speaker 3: near the cabin was, they said they no longer heard it.
Speaker 3: The dog started acting more normal, a little over anxious,
Speaker 3: but acting normal nonetheless her normal self. So he was
Speaker 3: giving Rizzo praise. He was like, oh, you're a good girl,
Speaker 3: good protecting mom and whatnot right, and we should have
Speaker 3: listened to you girl, that kind of stuff, he said.
Speaker 3: For the next handful of knights at the cabin, he
Speaker 3: could not sleep. He would doze off out of sheer exhaustion,
Speaker 3: but then he would wake up to any odd noise,
Speaker 3: the dog move and whatever. He said, they didn't see
Speaker 3: anything after it ran up on the hill and was
Speaker 3: moving back and forth, they didn't see it. It was
Speaker 3: just a weird noise at that point. Once they're back
Speaker 3: in the cabin, and he said he kept waking up
Speaker 3: what struck him. He'd wake up, he would feel like
Speaker 3: it was just outside. Of course, he would check. He'd
Speaker 3: check around the perimeter and nothing Rizzol outside not acting
Speaker 3: funny or anything. He trusted the dog's instincts a little more.
Speaker 3: The dog wasn't acting out of place or doing the
Speaker 3: little circle thing. He would relax and be able to
Speaker 3: go back in and fall back asleep, but he said
Speaker 3: it was really rough. They get out of there at
Speaker 3: their scheduled time, which was really hard for them to
Speaker 3: stay because this thing was just over there and they
Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. They didn't know who to
Speaker 3: talk to. He was concerned about sharing with anyone at
Speaker 3: work because of the nature of his job. He didn't
Speaker 3: want to get some kind of reprimand or sent to
Speaker 3: the shrink or something like that. Right, so, it basically
Speaker 3: killed their desire to be in remote Alasket. They still
Speaker 3: love the state, but it killed his and his wife's
Speaker 3: desire to be out here. So he ended up putting
Speaker 3: in for a transfer to a different department. He had
Speaker 3: received the transfer not quite a year later, and they
Speaker 3: moved away. This incident is a direct cause for them
Speaker 3: wanting to leave the state. He's still in law enforcement.
Speaker 3: I respect that. I won't say where they are or
Speaker 3: anything like that. I do want to thank him for
Speaker 3: his patience waiting to get back and forth. He wanted
Speaker 3: me to convey to others, to share your experience. He said,
Speaker 3: had he knew more, he would have not have been
Speaker 3: so impacted by what they dealt with. He said, overall,
Speaker 3: it was real creepy, really strange, but there was no
Speaker 3: outward violence towards them. There was no outward sign of aggression.
Speaker 3: It was creepy. It was watching them and stuff, but
Speaker 3: there wasn't no rock throwing. There was no mind speaker,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff that you may hear about sometimes.
Speaker 3: Had he known the potential was there, he said, it
Speaker 3: would have been easier to deal with versus being confronted
Speaker 3: with that. He said, I almost shot that thing five
Speaker 3: or six times. I can understand. He said, it was very,
Speaker 3: very difficult. Once they got back, he tried to share
Speaker 3: with some personal friends and they just looked at him funny,
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, I must have been a really
Speaker 3: big black bear. They were hearing them, but they were
Speaker 3: changing the narrative, so he just let it be. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of people dealing with that.
Speaker 3: Thank you Dylan, thank you Christina. They still have Rizzo.
Speaker 3: She's an old lady now not long for this world,
Speaker 3: but they treat her like a chant. I like to
Speaker 3: start off by saying rest in peace to Tom. He
Speaker 3: was a co host with William Jenning on America's Creek
Speaker 3: Devil for quite a while. Tom was a really good
Speaker 3: guy and it reminds me of what an elber Thomas.
Speaker 3: I shared some of his experiences here. What he told
Speaker 3: me the last I talked to him was to love
Speaker 3: your people. You never know because tomorrow isn't promised. Man,
Speaker 3: I love your people go. Let petty disagreements cause a
Speaker 3: riff that just doesn't need to be there, pointless. What
Speaker 3: I want to share with you today comes from the
Speaker 3: Chistacchina River, which is a tributary to the Copper River.
Speaker 3: This comes from Brad. He's a telecoms worker. What he
Speaker 3: likes to do on his free time when he's not
Speaker 3: doing all sorts of other stuff, is he likes to
Speaker 3: take out his little dirt bite. They had a couple
Speaker 3: of different ones. On this occasion. He had a little
Speaker 3: YZ one twenty five, just a little rip around, easy
Speaker 3: on the trails, easy on the gas, and he had
Speaker 3: a modified gas tank on it. His plan was to
Speaker 3: take the winter trail up along the Chistachina River, up
Speaker 3: past Sinanoah Creek up to this cabin over there, and
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a gravel pad there and stuff.
Speaker 3: So this was approximately we're going back about a decade
Speaker 3: on this trip. He's having trouble right because the trail
Speaker 3: was pretty unforgiving at that time. It was early in
Speaker 3: the year, it was just before June. The trail was
Speaker 3: not inducive for a motorbike, let alone a flour wheeler.
Speaker 3: It was in that transition period where the snow is unstable,
Speaker 3: it's melting. Grant you. He was up at about twenty
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty feet. He's having a struggle with it,
Speaker 3: and the following day a couple of his buddies are
Speaker 3: supposed to be catching up with him, so he's going
Speaker 3: to leave early. He wasn't worried about bears. It was
Speaker 3: a little early in the season. He was armed. He
Speaker 3: had a forty four mag on his hip, but he
Speaker 3: wasn't concerned about bears. He was just trying to get out.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons he wanted to is just to
Speaker 3: explore Alaska. He no longer lives here, but that's because
Speaker 3: of his work. He bounces from state to state doing
Speaker 3: all this telecom's work with the fiber optics and shit
Speaker 3: like that. But while he was here, he wanted to
Speaker 3: see as much of alask as possible. So his days
Speaker 3: off before he went down Copper River had some Copper
Speaker 3: River reds and all this, and he was just intrigued
Speaker 3: with the Copper River valley, so he wanted to continue that,
Speaker 3: and that's why he ended up here. Now, the highway
Speaker 3: crosses there where he started this little journey, so he
Speaker 3: just passed the gravel pits and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: and he comes over to where the bridge crosses the
Speaker 3: Chista China. He pulled off. He found a nice little
Speaker 3: place to tuck back that wasn't too visible from the road.
Speaker 3: He yanks out at his bike and starts this journey.
Speaker 3: I only laugh because I've been on trails too early
Speaker 3: in the season. I know it can be a moh
Speaker 3: Man he had no winch, no nothing. The bike ain't
Speaker 3: overly heavy. He's got a big military backpack on. He's
Speaker 3: got the pistol on his hip, he's got hip waiters
Speaker 3: on and stuff for the muck and the mud and
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, and his helmet, and he's
Speaker 3: battling each one of these little potholes he had come across.
Speaker 3: He said it was just like two feet of mud,
Speaker 3: but there was grass there. He said it was a
Speaker 3: damned thing he ever dealt with. Now he's up at elevation,
Speaker 3: so those snows just melting right on through and going
Speaker 3: on down. Horrible conditions for especially a little dirt bike.
Speaker 3: He was undaunted. He bottomed out many times, had to
Speaker 3: pull it out of the muck morentimes, and he said
Speaker 3: he wanted to count, so it delayed him making progress.
Speaker 3: It comes to this ravine that he already knows that
Speaker 3: it's getting darker, graduous Land of the midnight Sun. So
Speaker 3: don't misunderstand what I'm saying. It's getting darkness, and that
Speaker 3: we still got night time in that time of year.
Speaker 3: It's not quite full on Land of the midnight Sun,
Speaker 3: even though it's staying light out up upwards at ten
Speaker 3: o'clock at night or longer. His reasoning for stopping there
Speaker 3: was he was wiped out. He had been wrestling this
Speaker 3: damn dirt bike more than riding it, going off through
Speaker 3: these muck holes and stuff, so he was spent. Brad
Speaker 3: said that when he decided he was just going to camp,
Speaker 3: and he was just going to do a little spike camp,
Speaker 3: just a little tark between two trees, to lay under
Speaker 3: little fire, get something to eat, and start off fresh,
Speaker 3: bright and early. He's sitting and he's looking down into
Speaker 3: this small ravine where the trail crosses and stuff, and
Speaker 3: he already knew he was going to have to wrestle
Speaker 3: this bike up the other side. So as he's sitting
Speaker 3: there recounting his journey so far, he said, he's basically
Speaker 3: contemplating in the morning instead of continuing on, just heading
Speaker 3: back and wrestling on back and meeting his buddies, trying
Speaker 3: to decide on a different place. It was a lot
Speaker 3: of work. Right now at this point, there is no
Speaker 3: there's no leaves on the trees. It's all open undergrowth
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's visibility is pretty good outside of the
Speaker 3: black spruce and stuff like that. Now he's looking down
Speaker 3: into this ravine as it's slowly getting darker and he's
Speaker 3: just feeling himself. He nods off a couple of times
Speaker 3: and he's ok up to a splashy sound. I was like,
Speaker 3: what the hell is that? So he's looking around and
Speaker 3: it's just dark enough. He can't see down in the
Speaker 3: ravine anymore, but the sky is still pretty light, and
Speaker 3: so he rummages around. He wants to make sure that
Speaker 3: it wasn't an early spring bear down below him, that
Speaker 3: he's potentially just sleeping on, so to speak, because he
Speaker 3: didn't want to get eaten. So he rummages around, finds
Speaker 3: a headlamp. So he puts a headlamp on, rummages around
Speaker 3: some more, and he said he got his good flashlight.
Speaker 3: It was about eight hundred lumens or something like that.
Speaker 3: He was standing up at the edge and he hits
Speaker 3: the big beam, the eight hundred leman beam down into
Speaker 3: this little ravine and he's looking with the way some
Speaker 3: of the vegetation was along there. There wasn't no leaves,
Speaker 3: but it was just so dense it was hard to
Speaker 3: see through. But he saw a movement and he was like,
Speaker 3: oh great, it is a bear. So he killed the
Speaker 3: light because he didn't want to attract attention. So he
Speaker 3: sat there listening, trying to anticipate is it moving up
Speaker 3: towards me? Is it not? Which is a daunting thing.
Speaker 3: You got to understand. He's sitting there listening, hoping this
Speaker 3: bear doesn't come up to hill after him, and so
Speaker 3: he's really unsettled. He drew his gun. He wasn't wanting
Speaker 3: to have that kind of confrontation. He didn't want to
Speaker 3: have to call the authorities and deal with all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So he was really hoping this bear would just neander
Speaker 3: on down the ravine and continue on down to the river.
Speaker 3: He said, as he was sitting there listening to the
Speaker 3: splashing the noises, he started what he called it sounded
Speaker 3: like a little monkey or something because he was hearing
Speaker 3: these little little sounds, little vocalizations that were really it
Speaker 3: reminded him of the monkey house that he had visited.
Speaker 3: I think he said it was at Woodland Park Zoo
Speaker 3: or something like that down in Seattle. So you know,
Speaker 3: he was intrigued by that. So he stood up and
Speaker 3: hit the light again, the eight hundred lumens, he said,
Speaker 3: Down in the ravine, he saw what he thought was
Speaker 3: a little monkey boy. He said. It was hair covered,
Speaker 3: but not very thick hair. It looked very young, very small.
Speaker 3: From his perspective looking down on it, it looked surprised,
Speaker 3: looked up at him, and then bolted back up that ravine.
Speaker 3: He said it moved fast. He startled. He's like, how
Speaker 3: in the hell did a monkey get down there? Because
Speaker 3: from his perspective, he was just like, was this chimpanzee
Speaker 3: or whatever the hell it is doing down here? WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's really trippy. I'm in the middle of freaking Alaska
Speaker 3: and there's a monkey boy? What's going on here? Harry Man, Bigfoot,
Speaker 3: none of that stuff. He always dismissed it as just whatever.
Speaker 3: People bored and they just want to talk. Right. So
Speaker 3: he's sitting there and he gets out the phony hat
Speaker 3: at the time, and he's trying to look for signal.
Speaker 3: No signal where he was at. I don't feel comfortable
Speaker 3: sitting here. I want to check this monkey boy out.
Speaker 3: He's not recognizing the potential dangers and what he's deciding
Speaker 3: to do. Those are his words, he said, man Fred,
Speaker 3: I didn't understand the danger. I was putting myself ban in.
Speaker 3: I was gonna chase monkey boy. So he goes down,
Speaker 3: turns on his headlamp instead of the bright light. But
Speaker 3: he's got his gun and the bright light in his hand.
Speaker 3: But he's using his headlamp to see, and he's trying
Speaker 3: to go up to speak, and he's looking for traps.
Speaker 3: He wants to see some of the tracks and maybe
Speaker 3: take a pic of a track or something like that.
Speaker 3: But everywhere he's looking it's just obscured by water. He
Speaker 3: could tell it was disturbed because there's mud and stuff
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He said. He made it about seventy five feet going
Speaker 3: up this draw. He said it wasn't very far at all,
Speaker 3: because a lot of times he was staring down he
Speaker 3: heard movement further up the draw, but it was at
Speaker 3: a distance where he was just thinking, that's that little
Speaker 3: monkey boy. And so he gets to a point to
Speaker 3: where all of a sudden, he said, it was like
Speaker 3: a wall of discomfort he ran into. He got to
Speaker 3: a point and was just about to step up onto
Speaker 3: this next little legend. He said he was overwhelmed by
Speaker 3: this wall of don't do it right. So he stops
Speaker 3: and he's trying to recognize is why he's so uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: turns on his big light and he's flashing around off
Speaker 3: to his flanks to check out around him, because he's
Speaker 3: in a little ravine that has some pretty damn steep sides. Right,
Speaker 3: He's sitting there, going, this is not good. I better
Speaker 3: just retreat. So he's taking his steps with the headlamp on.
Speaker 3: He's looking behind himself to watch his steps, and he's
Speaker 3: keeping that bright light forward as he's turning around and
Speaker 3: looking back and forth. One of the times he looked
Speaker 3: back forward, he saw a glint of eyeshine then moved
Speaker 3: into the brush. So he stops and he's looking back
Speaker 3: up the draw at where the eye shine was. And
Speaker 3: as he's doing so, he said, that's when the little
Speaker 3: monkey boy crept out, looked at him again, doing this
Speaker 3: number with his hand, and then duck back. He said,
Speaker 3: it was the most surreal odd thing to be in
Speaker 3: remote ask and see this. Right. I asked him what
Speaker 3: it looked like, and he said it looked like a
Speaker 3: little boy slash kind of monkey ish. He said. The
Speaker 3: teeth out a little bit bulbous, just below the nose,
Speaker 3: not like a snout at all, just real big teeth
Speaker 3: in a mouth. He also said that it was a
Speaker 3: very light tan kind of buckskin color, didn't look wrinkly.
Speaker 3: It looked fresh face, like bright faced, young looking hair
Speaker 3: that went from the nose, not around the mouth, nothing
Speaker 3: around the mouth. But he said the cheeks were exposed
Speaker 3: up onto the forehead and it had the look of
Speaker 3: almost partial caveman. He's really enthralled at this point, but
Speaker 3: he's still got this discomfort, he said. He just couldn't
Speaker 3: let go of he felt so uncomfortable. So even though
Speaker 3: he's intrigued, he continues looking back and moving, just getting
Speaker 3: out of there. He said, just as he was about
Speaker 3: to get to where he came down from above where
Speaker 3: his camp was, he was standing there because he heard
Speaker 3: louder noises that wasn't the same as the noise as
Speaker 3: he heard little monkey boy making. And again I'm only
Speaker 3: saying a little monkey boy, because that's what Brad said.
Speaker 3: He just kept saying that little monkey boy this and that.
Speaker 3: So just bear with me. As he gets to a point,
Speaker 3: he's looking back up this draw towards the last place
Speaker 3: he's seen in this little monkey Boy, he said, as
Speaker 3: he's doing so between where he was and where that
Speaker 3: point was in the light that was beaming, he heard
Speaker 3: and saw debris and rocks and dirt and stuff sloped
Speaker 3: down into this little draw. So immediately he turns and
Speaker 3: points up, he said. When he pointed up onto the
Speaker 3: opposite side of the bank, he said, he saw the
Speaker 3: largest being he's ever seen in his life. He said
Speaker 3: it was so massive it was pitch black. When he
Speaker 3: beamed up, it gave red eyeshine back, but his face
Speaker 3: was so dark he couldn't make out features other than
Speaker 3: it was humanoid. He's literally in shock, staring up. He's
Speaker 3: got his gun in his hand, but he said, in
Speaker 3: that instant that gun was non existent. He was just like,
Speaker 3: what am I looking at? He said, As he was
Speaker 3: doing that, Oh crap, what am I really seeing? He said,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the loudest scream came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: He said it didn't come from the one he was
Speaker 3: looking at, because that one just stayed still looking down
Speaker 3: at him. He said, he couldn't pinpoint exactly where, but
Speaker 3: it enveloped that whole area was just loud as shit. Scream,
Speaker 3: he said. He immediately stumbled back. He fell. He had
Speaker 3: dropped the pistol and scampered up the hill. Now when
Speaker 3: he gets up to the top of the hill he
Speaker 3: realized this he dropped his gun. When he calmed down,
Speaker 3: he said. The amount of time from when he got
Speaker 3: to the top of the hill to when he calmed down,
Speaker 3: he could not say. Couldn't say how long it took.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a good time for him because he was
Speaker 3: running around. He didn't know what to do. He was
Speaker 3: freaked out. He kept hiding behind little trees and behind brush.
Speaker 3: He was so uncomfortable. He just wanted to run and hide,
Speaker 3: and there was really nowhere for him to hide. He said,
Speaker 3: after he calmed down and him that his gun is
Speaker 3: down in the ravine and he might want to have that.
Speaker 3: He said, it was the hardest trip he ever had
Speaker 3: to make in his life to retrieve it. He didn't
Speaker 3: know where these things were because after the scream and
Speaker 3: he scrambled up the hill and everything it was quiet,
Speaker 3: dead quiet. He kept turning off and on his bright
Speaker 3: light as needed, but his headlamp died. So when he
Speaker 3: decided I need that gun, he started down. Now he
Speaker 3: was turning on the light and then turning it off
Speaker 3: and sleughing and sliding down this hill. He said it
Speaker 3: wasn't overly steep, but he felt he needed to be
Speaker 3: as far away while trying to get closer as possible,
Speaker 3: which we all have our little quarts when we're under pressure.
Speaker 3: He gets down there, he looks around and he sees it.
Speaker 3: He picks up the pistol. He opens it and looks
Speaker 3: and is shaking the water off that basically and making
Speaker 3: sure there's nothing in the barrel and they'll mutter any obstruction.
Speaker 3: He shuts it, tucks it back in the holster, and
Speaker 3: then backs up the hill, back up to where he
Speaker 3: was camping. He said that whole time, however long it took,
Speaker 3: he has no idea, because he said there was moments
Speaker 3: he would move quickly. In other moments it was so
Speaker 3: hard to move he had to force himself to move.
Speaker 3: But he felt he needed something. That gun that was
Speaker 3: the only thing he had. So once he was back
Speaker 3: up top, Brad said, as he was sitting there, he's
Speaker 3: evaluating should I hike out instead of wrestling the bike.
Speaker 3: I don't want to wrestle this bike if these things
Speaker 3: are around and they potentially chase me, because that's where
Speaker 3: his mind went. His mind went to they may chase me.
Speaker 3: So what he decides to do is to fire up
Speaker 3: the bike and his waym winded out a few times
Speaker 3: and let that reverberate through the little ravine and stuff.
Speaker 3: He figured out, I'm gonna scare these things off with
Speaker 3: the noise of the dirt bike a little two cyclics.
Speaker 3: So he fires it up and he does this thing.
Speaker 3: He's not paying attention to his fuel consumption. He's just
Speaker 3: wrapping that bitch out man. He was just doing everything
Speaker 3: he could to in his own mind get these things
Speaker 3: to leave. So he does that for a while, kills it,
Speaker 3: and he's feeling better. He said no sooner than he
Speaker 3: put the kickstand down and leaned it to where it
Speaker 3: wouldn't fall over, and was sitting there happy. Okay, that
Speaker 3: made noise. Everything's gone from around me, right from down
Speaker 3: in the ravine below him. Another scream, he said. The
Speaker 3: second scream sounded far more angry. He said it had
Speaker 3: this tone of a roar and a growl at the
Speaker 3: same time, versus just a high pitched, reverberating, loud ass
Speaker 3: like woman getting murdered screamed like the first one was.
Speaker 3: He said that really bothered him. He said he was
Speaker 3: so uncomfortable. He was damn near in the fetal position,
Speaker 3: his pistols holstered. He's holding the flashlight, it's not on,
Speaker 3: and he's basically squirming into the fetal position next to
Speaker 3: this bike. He's scared to death. He's full of indecision.
Speaker 3: He said. He couldn't move forward, backward, left, right. All
Speaker 3: he could do was his best to make himself as
Speaker 3: small as possible. I get that, understand that that kind
Speaker 3: of fear, it can be very crippling and indecision as
Speaker 3: a bitch man. He said. He's not sure how long
Speaker 3: he was tucked like that. He wasn't sure, but it
Speaker 3: had to have been a while, because at some point
Speaker 3: he started shivering. It was cold. He's up at twenty
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty feet it's still late spring. There's
Speaker 3: still melting snow just above him in elevation, and everything's wet,
Speaker 3: right of course, Yeah, he's soaking wet. He's shivering on
Speaker 3: the ground, and the shivering on the ground motivated him
Speaker 3: to sit up, he said. Once he sat up and
Speaker 3: was reassessing the situation, he said he kept hearing a
Speaker 3: noise like directly across the ravine from him, a little
Speaker 3: twig snapping, dirt shuffling down the sidewall, things like this,
Speaker 3: But it was dark. He wanted to look with the
Speaker 3: big light, but he was scared to He didn't want
Speaker 3: to evoke some kind of attack or something. Pinpoint is
Speaker 3: exact location, which these things probably already knew right where
Speaker 3: he was. As he was sitting there deciding whether or
Speaker 3: not he was going to turn this light on, he
Speaker 3: drew his gun again just in case, And when he
Speaker 3: turned on the light, he didn't directly point it across.
Speaker 3: He was examining the pistol again, making sure it was
Speaker 3: okay and operational. He rotated the hammer a couple times
Speaker 3: to turn the cylinder to make sure it was functioning.
Speaker 3: Holding the gun, he decides, all right, I'll do it now.
Speaker 3: When he heard some sleughing noises of come to cross
Speaker 3: that little ravine there, he points the light up, he said.
Speaker 3: When he pointed the light across, he saw the silhouette
Speaker 3: of the big black one, he said, this time, when
Speaker 3: he saw it, he could see the sheen of the
Speaker 3: light on the hair. He could see the skin under
Speaker 3: the hair. This thing wasn't looking directly at the light
Speaker 3: it was looking down. He said. It almost seemed it
Speaker 3: was like a nuisance. He said, the vibe he picked
Speaker 3: up felt like this thing was just annoyed by him,
Speaker 3: but not threatened by him. So this thing is looking
Speaker 3: down as he's trying to examine it, he said. As
Speaker 3: he's looking at it, he could see around the face
Speaker 3: is really dark gray, like a very ashen dark gray,
Speaker 3: almost like wet cement, little darker. From what he could tell,
Speaker 3: it was the flat face, very big, wid set jaw,
Speaker 3: but he was seeing it partially in profile and partially
Speaker 3: obscured by distance and the effect of the light. It
Speaker 3: was a little warped as far as what he was
Speaker 3: picking up, but the skin tone and stuff is pretty
Speaker 3: confident on. At one point, he said, it looked over
Speaker 3: at him and gave a glare, get that light out
Speaker 3: of my face, and so he pointed the light down
Speaker 3: by its lower extremities, by his feet, he said, as
Speaker 3: he was watching it, it stood up and walked up
Speaker 3: the hill backwards, looking back down at him. Basically, he's
Speaker 3: shining at his feet. He noticed it stands up because
Speaker 3: it's still some light up above there. And then once
Speaker 3: it does, he's following it with that light, and it
Speaker 3: backed up the hill on the opposite side, looking at him,
Speaker 3: and then once it got up to a certain point,
Speaker 3: it just turned and walked off to his left. He said.
Speaker 3: He sat there just listening, just listening to this thing
Speaker 3: moved through the brush and he could tell it it
Speaker 3: moved well up onto that ravine for the backup in there.
Speaker 3: He said he'd turned off the light for a second
Speaker 3: and was just so relieved that this thing wasn't actively
Speaker 3: trying to get him. It moved away even with the
Speaker 3: annoyance of the light. It was obviously doing some other
Speaker 3: stuff and not worried about Brad. So it went off,
Speaker 3: he said. He calmed down. He sat there just quiet
Speaker 3: and sense relief over him. Okay, they're not actively going
Speaker 3: to get me, Otherwise they could have, right, so, he said.
Speaker 3: As he was sitting there and it started getting lighter,
Speaker 3: he heard that little split splash again from monkey Boy,
Speaker 3: as he called it, and he was like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to, but I really want to see this thing
Speaker 3: one more time. He decides, Okay, I'm going to stand
Speaker 3: up and I'm going to shine down there and see
Speaker 3: if I could see this monkey Boy. He stands up
Speaker 3: he beams the light down there, he doesn't see anything.
Speaker 3: He doesn't see a damn thing. What he does see, however,
Speaker 3: is a branch. So out of his view of what
Speaker 3: he could see behind some of the brush and stuff,
Speaker 3: this thing had a branch and was splashing the water
Speaker 3: with the branch, making the noises. He said it almost
Speaker 3: seemed when he looked at it, the first thing he
Speaker 3: thought was, it's almost like it's luring some kind of interaction,
Speaker 3: like it's trying to entice me to interact. He said
Speaker 3: he wasn't going for none of that. He doesn't know
Speaker 3: what the intent was or if it was just hiding
Speaker 3: tracks with a stick. He didn't know. He couldn't see
Speaker 3: the being doing it, but it was obvious it was
Speaker 3: being used with intelligence to do something down in this
Speaker 3: little ravine. He said that it was very hard to
Speaker 3: walk away from that. He felt compelled that he wanted
Speaker 3: to go and engage. And then Brad said he turned around,
Speaker 3: fired up the dirt bike again and was shining the
Speaker 3: light and realized he had ate up a lot of
Speaker 3: gas just sitting there reving that thing. Right, so he
Speaker 3: kills it real quick because he wants to save gas.
Speaker 3: He felt relief because that big one moved away, and
Speaker 3: obviously they weren't actively trying to get him, and so
Speaker 3: he calmed down, waited for it to get a little
Speaker 3: lighter out, and then fired up and followed his back
Speaker 3: trail as best he could, he said, when he got
Speaker 3: back over to where he basically started his little journey,
Speaker 3: he said that he doesn't remember how many times he
Speaker 3: had to wrestle the bike back through the mud. The
Speaker 3: second time, he said he was overtired. He didn't get
Speaker 3: virtually no sleep. It was freezing cold from being wet,
Speaker 3: wrestling this bike for hours on end on the way
Speaker 3: in and then on the way back out. He lost count.
Speaker 3: When he got back to where his truck was, and
Speaker 3: it actually wasn't even as truck. It was a loaner truck.
Speaker 3: It was basically a company truck. That was a sign
Speaker 3: to him. So he gets over there and he's so
Speaker 3: exhausted that he lays the bike down and just falls
Speaker 3: asleep in the bed of the truck. He said the
Speaker 3: keys were somewhere, but the doors were locked. He wasn't
Speaker 3: going to dig forever. He was so wiped out. He
Speaker 3: just curled up in the fetal position. In the bed
Speaker 3: of the truck and fell asleep. He said he was
Speaker 3: woken up by his buddies. He heard them pulling in
Speaker 3: and he heard them laughing, What the hell is this?
Speaker 3: They thought Brad had got drunk and maybe wiped out
Speaker 3: his bike, so initially they laughed until they saw him
Speaker 3: and saw he was pale and stressed looking and just
Speaker 3: dirty as hell and all wet. Then they were like,
Speaker 3: are you okay? They thought he wiped out real bad
Speaker 3: and maybe he was in need of medical attention. He
Speaker 3: was like, I'm okay, I'm okay. He said. He broke
Speaker 3: down crying on the tailgate of this truck because he
Speaker 3: didn't know how to share what he just dealt with
Speaker 3: these guys. They asked him what happened. He basically told
Speaker 3: them a lion, said I was chased by a brown bear,
Speaker 3: and he left it at that. The guys are like, oh, geez, man,
Speaker 3: are you okay. They're checking him out for any claw
Speaker 3: marks or anything like that. He said, I outran the bear.
Speaker 3: It finally stopped, but it really freaked me out, and
Speaker 3: that's what he told these coworkers. He ended up going
Speaker 3: back to work just fine. There was a couple other
Speaker 3: spots remote up near Fairbanks where he really had a
Speaker 3: hard time with PTSD type stuff, being near the trees.
Speaker 3: He said he was able to overcome it because he
Speaker 3: would reassure himself they didn't attack me. I'm okay, I'm
Speaker 3: okay that kind of thing. I want to thank Brad
Speaker 3: for coming forward. He was real nervous about the nature
Speaker 3: of his job, so I told him I'd be very
Speaker 3: generic or I could leave it out. He said, as
Speaker 3: long as you're generic about it, that's fine. Again. Thank
Speaker 3: you Brad for sharing that. Again. Love your people. Tomorrow's
Speaker 3: not promised again. Rest in peace, tom really great guy.
Speaker 3: When I first started this channel, I wanted to incorporate
Speaker 3: missing people, not to say, oh, the Harry Man snatched
Speaker 3: this person or that, just in general as hey, these
Speaker 3: are the people missing right now. I was trying to
Speaker 3: get context for that. He tried to help me. We
Speaker 3: were trying to look into nine on one calls and
Speaker 3: this other stuff, and it turned out he found out
Speaker 3: for me that without a FOIA acting, even with if
Speaker 3: it comes to an open case, you're not getting anything
Speaker 3: but that little bulletin, which doesn't tell much. It really doesn't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't give no context to the missing again. Love
Speaker 3: your people, man, you never know tomorrow promise, Thank you
Speaker 3: guys for joining me. We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 1: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be. We're all out there trying
Speaker 4: this job. That time everything came right back, crying back
Speaker 4: for joy, for me, joy staying right. You come it
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