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<v Speaker 1>Oh better that are mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger Warner.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast may include explicit content that will take you

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<v Speaker 3>out of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener's discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Cult Rejects this episode. You already know

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<v Speaker 4>we got Miguel Connor with us tonight with a cult Elvis.

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<v Speaker 4>But before we introduce him, I'm going to introduce the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the crew and the rejects with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>I got myself obviously, and I got Heidi love with me, Heidi.

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<v Speaker 4>Let everybody know what you deal is and where they

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<v Speaker 4>can find your amazing work.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome. I'm Heidi, love of the Unfiltered Rice. You can

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<v Speaker 5>find me everywhere podcasts are served and love to see either.

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<v Speaker 5>I also have my own website, Unfiltered Rise podcast dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome younks will be in the bottom and Jin then Ninja,

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<v Speaker 4>what is up my man? Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 4>joining us. Please let everybody know where your deal is.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'll say, first of all, thanks boss for having

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<v Speaker 6>me on. Of course, I love doing these panel shows.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Heidi, Julia, Ethan, Robbie of course, and Miguel obviously.

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<v Speaker 7>Like a lot of young I'm not that young, but

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<v Speaker 7>maybe like a little younger than Eunich, so I'll say

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a little I'm young, and like a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>young magicians will say, I've listened to Miguel's show for

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<v Speaker 7>a long time, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite excited and yeah, I think it'll be really great.

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<v Speaker 7>So if people want to follow me, they can follow

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<v Speaker 7>me on Twitter x Wucar Reborn, wuk O and g

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<v Speaker 7>Reborn or the show A Threshold Saints at Spotify and Applele.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so you know that that is something I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to mention too. I don't know if I mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>it last time when I had you on Miguel, but

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<v Speaker 4>just like just like Room Soup, I used to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to Miguil back in the day too when I when

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<v Speaker 4>I was just practice. So it's actually kind of was

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of unreal to be like, Wow, this guy's

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<v Speaker 4>on my show and I used to listen to his

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<v Speaker 4>stuff when I was studying the acult Like it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty mind blowing, So yeah, I get it. Cosmic Peach, Julia,

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<v Speaker 4>please let us know what is going on.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if you haven't found me yet, you never will.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm happy to be in a cult reject so

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<v Speaker 8>you can find me here every now and again. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>I have Cosmic Peach podcast and yeah that's pretty much it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I was gonna say, I do have an Instagram cosmic

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<v Speaker 8>dot Peach dot podcast. If people want to work with me,

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<v Speaker 8>the best way to do it is to go to

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<v Speaker 8>Instagram and email me from my link tree because I

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<v Speaker 8>never checked that inbox, so that's the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>But thanks for having me, Nick, This is going to

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<v Speaker 8>be a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, of course know whaten thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Ethan Indigo, my man, what is up? Let everybody know

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<v Speaker 4>what you deal is?

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<v Speaker 2>Peace on earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Honored to be here with everyone, always excited to learn

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<v Speaker 3>communicate with you guys. I'm a big fan of everyone, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm excited to hear Miguel's presentation. Recently put out

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<v Speaker 3>an article on accult research to.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the occult.

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<v Speaker 3>Rejects have a bunch of writing of course, and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a ne'er do well writer, so it's and I

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<v Speaker 3>think a link to my writing is below.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks thanks so much, Nick, and everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, and Robbie Marx the o g himself. Let

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<v Speaker 4>everybody know what's up with you?

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, so now my state everybody here, and I

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<v Speaker 9>just want to say, Miguel, you know I've been excited

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<v Speaker 9>about this Occult Elvis project since you started talking about

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<v Speaker 9>doing it. But I am r Marx or Robbie Marx.

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<v Speaker 9>You can check out my artwork, my podcast, all my

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<v Speaker 9>miscellaneous things that I have at my link tree at

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<v Speaker 9>link tree.

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<v Speaker 4>R M A r X.

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<v Speaker 9>That'll get you everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, welesome, thank you very much. And last but

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<v Speaker 4>not least, my favorite garbage can dude, JJ Vance, not

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<v Speaker 4>the vice president. What is up, sir? How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think you are you today?

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<v Speaker 10>There were your technical difficulties it creating, sir. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 10>the appreciate the invite. Miguel, nice to nice to be.

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<v Speaker 10>Just started looking forward to hearing about some ofccold Elvis.

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<v Speaker 10>Big fan of A big fan of the King myself,

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<v Speaker 10>and nice to see all the fellow of cult Rejects

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<v Speaker 10>here this evening. JJ Vance not the vice president, host

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<v Speaker 10>of Operations GCD, and resident garbage can do true crime.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here at the Occult Rejects. That's for nothing except

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<v Speaker 2>for being an expert nothing. That's what I'm an expert.

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<v Speaker 4>In pretty much save here I think I can say

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing. All right, So finally we got through

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<v Speaker 4>all that about five minutes later. Now we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the guest, Miguel A on Bite. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>most people know who you are already. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 4>a staple in the occult community at this point, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you have been for a while. Just let everybody

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<v Speaker 4>know who me and I know who you are, what

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<v Speaker 4>your deal is, and what you're all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir oh Man, thanks for having me on. But God,

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<v Speaker 2>all this talk, I feel like I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>wheeling in some old dinosaur. I'm like the Fat Elvis podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I for one last show. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a Vegas suit exactly exactly. But yeah, just Miguel Connor,

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<v Speaker 2>a host of a young Bite off the Cult Elvis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>love what you guys do. When I was writing the book,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd often go into the uh into your podcast the

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<v Speaker 2>Occult Rejects, because it's nice. It's sometimes it's relaxing to

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<v Speaker 2>see people shoot the ship organically, you know, it's only

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of rare actually, so it was fun. And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'd be like, we're working on the book, or

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if Nick's been banned from YouTube again. That

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<v Speaker 2>was always happened so many times. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the fourth Yeah exactly. It's like, will you

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<v Speaker 2>make it? This time? Will be this, this will be

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<v Speaker 2>the one?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know it gets bad. The only strikes

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<v Speaker 4>I get anymore from William Ramsey on my show. It's

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<v Speaker 4>so weird. It's like the funniest thing. Yeah, it's get

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<v Speaker 4>st Julia.

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<v Speaker 8>Gonna say me for sure. And William, who I just

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<v Speaker 8>talked to today. We did something on the Catcher in

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<v Speaker 8>the Rye and we're not even gonna try to put

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<v Speaker 8>that one on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh nice, nice, all right, So, Miguel cult Elvis, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming you're probably a huge fan of them and

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<v Speaker 4>that's why you got into them, But like, what made

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<v Speaker 4>you pick or maybe you weren't a fan of them?

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<v Speaker 4>No really, okay, so what made you? What made you

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<v Speaker 4>decide to even get into covering a cult Elvis?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Oh well, Elvis had other plans. I suppose I

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<v Speaker 2>never was an Elvis fan. I was always a Beatles person.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, I don't know if you young whippers

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<v Speaker 2>snappers have ever watched the original theater release of pulp fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't find it, and you have to. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>original or release. Tarantino took it out.

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<v Speaker 6>You men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're the Mia Wallace Uma Thurman, you know, daughter

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<v Speaker 2>of the great Buddhist scholar. She's filming John Travolta, Vincent

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<v Speaker 2>Vega and the Cameron. She goes, there are only two

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<v Speaker 2>type of people in this world, Elvis fans and Beatles fans.

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<v Speaker 2>They can like each other, but they're very different. Who

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<v Speaker 2>you are says everything about you. Then later in this

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, I think you're a I think I know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an Elvis or a Beatles fan. But it

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<v Speaker 2>makes more context without that scene that Tarantino delete it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was always a Beatles fan forever. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an Elvis fan, and I explained in the book what

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<v Speaker 2>it is to be an Elvis fan. But I never

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<v Speaker 2>thought much of Elvis. I thought he was like the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the music version of Mountain Dew or McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and something like. And as I got older, I

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<v Speaker 2>started appreciating him, you know, his impact and everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>I did read a book about him, like ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>a biography that mentioned some of his you know, esoteric practices.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was at a time when I was studying

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<v Speaker 2>the Colt and I was like, oh man, these all

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<v Speaker 2>these rock stars and artists are into weird stuff. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowie was into cabbala and Paige into the Lima, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Beatles into him. It's just what they do on

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<v Speaker 2>the side to help them with their music. Didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Was still a Beatles fan. And then summer

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty two I ran into all these you

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<v Speaker 2>might say, roadblocks that changed my mind, or these directions

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<v Speaker 2>having to do with two ayahuasca rituals, visions, synchronicities. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>My world was just turned upside down and threw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly this voice started saying, you know, Elvis, Elvis, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something I have to say, and I became completely obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>in the car. I had to watch you know, his movies, documentaries,

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<v Speaker 2>and just couldn't stop thinking about it. And finally I

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<v Speaker 2>just surrendered. I just said, you know, I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>all of us have a mission, and the mission is

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<v Speaker 2>very simple. Either you either listen to God or your

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<v Speaker 2>soul or your destiny. Or you're going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pain. And I'm old enough to when

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<v Speaker 2>these things happen, I just lean into it and I

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<v Speaker 2>on a February twenty twenty three, I just sat down

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<v Speaker 2>with that one biography and I just started writing. And

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<v Speaker 2>in three months, the whole book came out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>As I like to say, it's like my tagline. I

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<v Speaker 2>became quantum Entangled with Elvis, we became almost one and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and there's many reasons why this book had

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. We can talk about him, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just something he wanted me to do. It's like doing

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<v Speaker 2>a favor for a friend. Sometimes the friends ask you

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<v Speaker 2>for a favor. Maybe it's to move the couch, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's to do and you just go, all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just do it. I'll just do it. And I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm very happy I did it for.

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<v Speaker 4>Him as part of the favor of being like, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>stuff was not noticed that he was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't notice because this stuff is hidden in

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<v Speaker 2>plain sight. You know. As you guys know, Elvis was

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<v Speaker 2>like the he was like the conspiracy world. Before conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>he was on the tabloids and the documentaries and the

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<v Speaker 2>bad blog posts and all that. You know, Elvis landed

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<v Speaker 2>from a spaceship, and Elvis did that. Everything I got

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<v Speaker 2>I got from biographies that are, you know, very well

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<v Speaker 2>lauded biographies. They came from friends, family, Priscilla. The things

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<v Speaker 2>that he saw, his supernatural visions and magic abilities, and

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<v Speaker 2>what he practiced and what he read. It was always

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of witnesses around him. There were people

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<v Speaker 2>around him, and you can't trust him. And even his

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<v Speaker 2>UFO encounters I detail three or four in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>he was never alone with them. It's not like he went,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had a UFO counter. There were people there.

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<v Speaker 2>They happened in Graceland and in his bel Air mansion

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<v Speaker 2>and somewhere in the desert. So everything I got, I

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<v Speaker 2>just pruned from all these biography and newspaper articles, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything had or ninety nine ninety five percent had eyewitnesses

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<v Speaker 2>was up to me to bring it all together in

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably the most remarkable person in the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that you know, Quentin Terr, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, David Lynch said, that's something that Leonard Bernstein said.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people says that the greatest icon in the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century is Elvis. He is America. He represents America

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<v Speaker 2>everything good and bad. And in my argument is that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we are losing our identity. This country's fragmenting.

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<v Speaker 2>If we want to know what it is to be

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<v Speaker 2>an American, the spirit of Elvis is what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get us through the other side. So I put all

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<v Speaker 2>these ideas of Elvis on a high level, through a

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<v Speaker 2>union lens, a Steiner lens, an alchemy lens, a psychological lens,

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<v Speaker 2>this figure is and maybe understand why he rose so

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<v Speaker 2>fast and also crashed so hard at the end. Why

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<v Speaker 2>did Elvis leave the building so early? And it's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a mystery, but I try to give

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<v Speaker 8>Mind, so you do believe that he is, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>rip then, because you know there's always, yeah, there's theories

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<v Speaker 8>that he didn't really die when he died, and you know, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I do. I do focus a chapter on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's so many and they're great, great conspiracies, great

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit holes to have fun with. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>at the end his body did leave. I do show

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<v Speaker 2>that he knew he was going to die. He predicted it,

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<v Speaker 2>he told friends he and his death is almost a

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<v Speaker 2>ritual when you look at it, even you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>the throne. I mean, it's all symbolical. And he predicted

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<v Speaker 2>that day I was going to leave. But his material

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<v Speaker 2>body did leave. And people always like, well, he could

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<v Speaker 2>have been a did he go under ground on the

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<v Speaker 2>witness protection did a mob and he moved to Argentine.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Elvis fans say, look, Number one, Elvis had

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<v Speaker 2>more power than the president, and he was mob connected.

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<v Speaker 2>He was connected with the DA he wrote, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>what was going to happen? That's just the way he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Number Two, if there were two people that are important

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<v Speaker 2>in his life at the time, was Lisa Marie and

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<v Speaker 2>his father Vernon, he would never have abandoned. He would

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<v Speaker 2>have taken them with them. If you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to move to Argentina or you know, or become a

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<v Speaker 2>pastor in Arkansas, Elvis would have not left his family.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not something he did. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 8>What do you think about his relationship with Priscilla, because

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<v Speaker 8>there's so much stuff people say about how young she

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<v Speaker 8>was and like when they met, and like after she

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<v Speaker 8>moved to Graceland and it's like weirdness and stuff, like

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<v Speaker 8>what are your thoughts about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's many thoughts about that. Again, many

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<v Speaker 2>theories of why this happened. I lean a lot simply

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<v Speaker 2>on her bio, Elvis and me, and you can watch

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<v Speaker 2>it in the Sophia Coppola movie Priscilla, and it's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it gives you a picture. But my theory, or the

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<v Speaker 2>way I approach it, is that Elvis was a It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to say there was an Oedipus thing with Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>because he lost his twin when he was born, and

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<v Speaker 2>Gladys could not conceive, and there was so poverty. Gladys

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<v Speaker 2>became very possessive, and unfortunately it's we call it helicopter parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could call it it's called lethal and mesh

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<v Speaker 2>or enmeshment where the mother won't let the child grow,

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<v Speaker 2>so the child is their egos never develop and they

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<v Speaker 2>become this extreme of proxy husband plus little plateful, naughty child,

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<v Speaker 2>and she basically destroyed a psyche. I mean from the

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<v Speaker 2>get go, and it's a lot of damage. It's serious stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We made joke about it. So he when she died

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<v Speaker 2>at only forty six, and he was in his early twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>right before he was going into the army, he was

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<v Speaker 2>completely crushed. That archetype of the mother was just taken away.

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<v Speaker 2>And he felt guilty because he always said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about the money. I want to make my mom happy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm a millionaire. But she hated the thing

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<v Speaker 2>with a passion because her proxy husband was out there

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<v Speaker 2>with other women touring and she started drinking, taking pills.

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<v Speaker 2>So he felt guilty that I gave my mom the

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<v Speaker 2>fame and she died because of it. And even his

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<v Speaker 2>father once blamed he that you killed you killed your

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<v Speaker 2>own mother. He never recovered there was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the devil, right, you want fame, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to take something from you. But it was so crushing

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<v Speaker 2>that he became obsessed with the idea of the mother

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<v Speaker 2>and anybody who looked like his mother. He lost it,

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<v Speaker 2>like why did he get into theosophy because he saw

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of Madame Blovotski was like mommy. And when

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<v Speaker 2>he saw Priscilla, he saw that something about her reminded

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<v Speaker 2>him of his mother, and he couldn't let go. He

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<v Speaker 2>had he could have had any woman of any stature

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<v Speaker 2>in the world at any time, but he had to

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<v Speaker 2>have Priscilla any you know, and he had her. And

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<v Speaker 2>as Priscilla writes, they did not consummate the marriage until

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<v Speaker 2>they were They did not consummate the relationship either until

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<v Speaker 2>they got married or right before there. I think she

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<v Speaker 2>slips a few times that maybe right before and she

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody said she was the one who wanted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis was like in his spiritual kick and was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we must wait and this and that. But it was Priscilla.

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<v Speaker 5>So she had hot draws, some dance. She saw his

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<v Speaker 5>pelvis moving, she was gonna.

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<v Speaker 8>Jump all that come on.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was in her early twenties, That's all I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in her early twenties. Whenever they decided it

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<v Speaker 2>was time or whenever it happened.

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<v Speaker 8>So so was she into like all this stuff with him?

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<v Speaker 8>Was she was she doing like magical stuff you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, she scientology right later. Yeah, she did joint

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<v Speaker 2>sciential Elvis hated.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to bring that up. I had had

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<v Speaker 4>that written down. Yeah, I noticed she mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, What was the reason for that? Daughter loved it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmm. Wife and scientis both of them, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hated them. They say he avoided it like

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<v Speaker 2>the cobra was a godless religion. He loved. He was

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<v Speaker 2>very accepting of all religions because he believed, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for God, I respect you, except for Scientology. Sure.

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<v Speaker 10>I've always wondered how Scientology took back, you know what

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, because they don't like they don't like when

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<v Speaker 10>when families bad mouth of their family members about being

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<v Speaker 10>in scientology.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big that's a big no note for old Zeno. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But once he once he was gone, that's when Priscilla

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<v Speaker 2>and Lisa Marie got into really need deep So oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it. I thought she was, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought there was like more of the nineteen sixties

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<v Speaker 10>movement type of situation for for Priscilla.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it was in the seventies. In the sixties

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<v Speaker 2>she was with Elvis and uh, she hated his occultism

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<v Speaker 2>and mystic oh really, because he started becoming so detached

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<v Speaker 2>to the material world and so spiritual that a she wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no more attention she was. He wasn't giving

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<v Speaker 2>her the atten as a woman that she wanted. And

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<v Speaker 2>he almost twice, he almost quit the music industry to

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<v Speaker 2>be a monk, a Christian monk and a Hindu monk,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was all just too heavy for it. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>his lectures, but Elvis could not go to anywhere because

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<v Speaker 2>Katus would ensue, right, he had to stay atone. So

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<v Speaker 2>he would send Priscilla to go listen to Manly P. Hall,

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<v Speaker 2>write notes and bring him to him, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>very happy, but she hated. She hated his spirituality. So

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<v Speaker 2>did Parker, Colonel Parker the Memphis Mafia, because he was

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<v Speaker 2>really out of control. I mean, he was like meditation

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<v Speaker 2>circles with groupies and reading at night and meditating and

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<v Speaker 2>practicing this magic. And he just drove everybody crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>he hated his fame. He was done with it. He

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<v Speaker 2>just it meant nothing to him and so drove him crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually there was this concerted campaign to put wedges

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<v Speaker 2>between him and his spiritual teachers and this, and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>they won. They didn't win. What happened is he went

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<v Speaker 2>underground secretly, like he'd keep his books in Vegas and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And I always I say, how he turned

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<v Speaker 2>into Vegas Elvis is very occult, you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptian ah that. I think he transferred that energy into

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<v Speaker 2>his Vegas act. But he was still till the day

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<v Speaker 2>he died, he was really into the Western esoteric tradition,

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern traditions and anything.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you familiar with Tuesday Weld at all?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 8>No, JJ, Do you know who I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite characters in life.

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<v Speaker 5>Huge.

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<v Speaker 8>She's like a witch, right, She's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>According to.

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<v Speaker 8>Understand well, Anton Levey had some kind of dedication to

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<v Speaker 8>her in his say, Tannic Bible. It was like Marilyn Monroe,

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<v Speaker 8>Tuesday Well, Jane Mansfield, but Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 10>Well then Eborate like this, they were like I knew

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<v Speaker 10>they knew each other as they acted together.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, Yeah, I didn't know how. I was curious

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<v Speaker 2>to know how the relationship went.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. There's even pictures of them where he's given her

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<v Speaker 8>a big smooch ye together. Yeah, I think that there

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<v Speaker 8>could have been a romance there, but it just like

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<v Speaker 8>with the kind of like the topic of the episode.

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<v Speaker 8>If she was into all that and they were best

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<v Speaker 8>these I can only imagine what Elvis may have learned

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<v Speaker 8>from her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 10>And Leavey elaborates on his dedication to Tuesday Weld in

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<v Speaker 10>a nineteen seventy two book called Modern Witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 2>So especially involved in the rituals.

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<v Speaker 8>She's really interesting. But I wondered if you had come

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<v Speaker 8>across her with Elvis, because I know that they hung

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<v Speaker 8>out and they were friends or whatever, But do you think,

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<v Speaker 8>like even him, like how he was discovered and everything

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<v Speaker 8>is kind of ritualistic because I've seen the studio in

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<v Speaker 8>Memphis where he recorded some of his first stuff, and

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<v Speaker 8>it's like triangles on the ceilings. Yeah, it's it's really

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<v Speaker 8>in your face.

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<v Speaker 4>You there go, I've been.

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<v Speaker 9>Record so midel I was gonna say, I'd always known

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<v Speaker 9>Elvis was in the theosophy, and it was kind of

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<v Speaker 9>just a loose fact in the wind. And I came

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<v Speaker 9>across I collect the vinyl and I came across one

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<v Speaker 9>of his country records that has twelve songs and in

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<v Speaker 9>between each song is a s and advertise it on

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<v Speaker 9>the record a secret thirteenth song. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 9>was kind of interesting in regard to the whole ideas

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<v Speaker 9>of esoteric philosophy. But like, did he actively kind of

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<v Speaker 9>push those ideas through his merchandising and his other you know,

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<v Speaker 9>things that he was putting out.

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00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I would say yes or no. Again, his Vegas manifestation

420
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is very magical. There are reports he would stop doing

421
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.880
<v Speaker 2>concerts and do like Tibetan prayers here and there. There

422
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 2>were times when he'd go into an altered state of mind.

423
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was on drugs, but yeah, I mean he

424
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 2>wore one thing. He wore an ankh even the day

425
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:29.200
<v Speaker 2>he died, and all that. I mean starting out with

426
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the scene from two thousand and Space one and all that.

427
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>It was a big steministic ritual and people there's not

428
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of footage, but people who went there said

429
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.440
<v Speaker 2>they were really transformed. And again, he never hit it,

430
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:46.839
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't advertise it. He was always passing out books,

431
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to talk to musicians and people about different

432
00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 2>spiritualities and so forth. I say that he really was

433
00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>part of seeding the sixties and seven, and he's a

434
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 2>cult and hippie movement because he was always there handing

435
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:11.279
<v Speaker 2>out books, doing circles, lesson circles, teachings in Hollywood and Memphis,

436
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.039
<v Speaker 2>and just spreading this stuff and making it cool, even

437
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>martial arts. When Elvis got his black belt in nineteen

438
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, he was only one of one hundred people

439
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 2>in the United States with a black belt in the

440
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 2>country's one hundred and seventy million. That's esoteric. And through

441
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 2>the sixties and seventies he got more black belts and

442
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.759
<v Speaker 2>people started, oh, this is really cool. I mean, he

443
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 2>made karate and these things kind of cool. So he

444
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 2>was very important. And we have to understand the United

445
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 2>States was very like a wasteland. It wasn't like Western Europe.

446
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.519
<v Speaker 2>When it came to the occult. There was really nothing

447
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.599
<v Speaker 2>you had, you know, the West Coast, the East Coat,

448
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Theosophical Society in Wheaton, there was nothing you had Elvis

449
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and the beat writers. You know, for all those guys

450
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Kraak we're talking about Eastern Nobody was talking about Buddhism

451
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>or Taoism and all that, and Elvis was one of those.

452
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>In fact, he used to go to the yoga nanda

453
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a Shrum because he started working under Yogananda's successor, Diyamata.

454
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 2>He'd go there to meditate. He did that like years

455
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 2>before George Harrison started doing it, So he was way

456
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>ahead of the curb. And I think he's one of

457
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the reasons it became acceptable. And like I said, he

458
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 2>was seating this stuff. But again, it was not something

459
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>he wore in his sleeve. It was just he had

460
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>passionate about it, you know, like, yeah, you have passionate

461
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>about the giants. You meet somebody, Hey, what about the

462
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>giants or you know you just yeah.

463
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 8>I was going to say, even like a secret life though.

464
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 8>It was like he had all this going on on

465
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.680
<v Speaker 8>the side, but nobody knew about it. Like in the public,

466
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 8>they wouldn't go, oh, Elvis, that guy that's really into Buddhism.

467
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 8>You know, it's almost he had like a secret life.

468
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>It does. It's almost like it's almost like an image

469
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>because even though he would wear this Aztek or Egyptian

470
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 2>outfits and do that, people still had this image of

471
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Elvis as a southern conservative boy. But everybody in his

472
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>inner circle and friends in Hollywood, they knew it, and

473
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>it was just part of it. Elvis did what Elvis

474
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do, and it was really as simple as that.

475
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>And for some reason, I think a lot of it

476
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is there was a time when people just thought, oh,

477
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>these Hollywood people are rocks, that they're eccentric, you know,

478
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the Beatles and Hinduism, Ronald Reagan and astrology and man, oh,

479
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just what they do, and we kind of shelve it,

480
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 2>we put it away, and then you realize, no, these

481
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>things really shape their personalities, their world views, their art.

482
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was essential to who they are as beings.

483
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think we're ready now to see it. I mean,

484
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.480
<v Speaker 2>there's been a book out on you know, your Colchi Morrison,

485
00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Sylvia Plath, and we're realizing this is essential and important

486
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and history changing and personality changing, and I think we're

487
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>ready as a culture to really really see it. Instead

488
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>of kind of turning her eye to one side or something.

489
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 8>Did he write his own stuff?

490
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Sorry?

491
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you what do you feel about the catastrophic things

492
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that have happened on his bloodline?

493
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Like you have implications there anything?

494
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Hell yeah, yeah, I deal with that too. I

495
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Mean Priscilla once said, well, you think Elvis would have survived.

496
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I would have been And Priscilla's like, no, there were

497
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 2>demons in his family, and she said the lineage is cursed.

498
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And I show that through his mother, Gladys. Gladys maybe

499
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, she abused him and I can't blame him,

500
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and she lost her twin she was then they went

501
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. She said she couldn't conceive, so of

502
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>course she's just going to grab onto Elvis with everything

503
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>she had. But she was known to have visions. She

504
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 2>would see demons at night, she had premonitions. Her and

505
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>her husband could heal at a touch, which Elvis adopted.

506
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Elvis talks about how her and her mother in Mississippi

507
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>good astral travel, but they both kept it hush because

508
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>they were worried about the church. So he got to

509
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>this lineage. And of course the gifts also are the curses.

510
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 2>There's a darkness to these powers and got it from Gladys.

511
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because of their native blood

512
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.119
<v Speaker 2>or their Jewish but I don't know. Some lineage of

513
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>magicians went through Gladys, through Elvis and eventually to Lisa Marie.

514
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>From what I hear, and I'm just doing the research

515
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Marie had UFO encounters, so there was something, some

516
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of curse.

517
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Or because they gloss over her poor son, you know,

518
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 1>there was some I mean all of that. It's just

519
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>every out of them. It's like a jay all over again.

520
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, but I'm just.

521
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Getting started on that and gone down too deep that rabbit.

522
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 7>All well, I just want to jump in and say

523
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 7>one thing quickly, since we have Heidi and JJ on

524
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 7>is that also Nick and I did a series and

525
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Nick Lison I did a series on Nick Barrett or

526
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 7>Sid Brett.

527
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, from.

528
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>The band.

529
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 6>I can't even think right now, that's right.

530
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 7>And so he was involved with Sikhism and at like

531
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 7>I'm a Buddhist, So for me, I that's not a

532
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 7>particular branch of dharma that I'm that familiar with, but

533
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 7>I looking into it, it does seem to have a

534
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 7>lot of branches into these kind of celebrity ocult networks.

535
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 7>Seems to be like Sikhism, which is interesting maybe side point.

536
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 7>But also they were married on May first, nineteen sixty seven.

537
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 7>I think nineteen sixty seven. JJ might find that interesting date.

538
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 7>And then also for Heidi, they were married at the

539
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 7>Aladdin hotel. Well, you know, we discussed another magician, Howard Hughes,

540
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 7>who you know, everybody's favorite magic city.

541
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 6>Vegas.

542
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>On May Day. Something I did want to ask you,

543
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 4>uh Miil was was he almost kind of like a

544
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy theorist in a sense too, because I think I

545
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 4>had heard.

546
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It was red pill before red pill was cool, so

547
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>he was again he he was, Yeah, he would have

548
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>been having fun with us right now. He would be

549
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>fun Twitter. He'd be going crazy on Twitter and all that,

550
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, he he certainly had a conspiracy sensibility. He

551
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>never Right after JFK was killed, he was on the

552
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>radio saying, there's no way it's a lone gun man.

553
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Same with Robert F. Kennedy. He was sure that there

554
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 2>was foul play. He thought the Vatican was holding secrets

555
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 2>and he was really mad.

556
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 8>It's like, we're why you just know this side of him,

557
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 8>Like I always imagined him as like kind of a

558
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 8>dope like that went to go visit Forrest Gump one

559
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 8>time and like learned how to do the moonwalk thing.

560
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, but there's just like this image of Elvis.

561
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 8>It's like, oh yeah, kind of like the very first

562
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 8>Beatle stuff, like bubble gum kind of like, oh, yeah,

563
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 8>it's Elvis, you know whatever, I've watched what is that

564
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 8>movie with the it's the story of Johnny Cash, but

565
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 8>he's in it. Walk the line, Yeah, I walked the line.

566
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 8>And because Johnny Cash always said, oh, Elvis got me

567
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 8>on pills. Elvis, this Elvis that. So like, do you

568
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 8>think he's a good guy? Do you think he's just

569
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 8>somewhere floating in the middle, like.

570
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Who is he? Yeah? Well he was an occultist, he

571
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 2>was a mystic. He had magic powers, as they show

572
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>in the book. He was a visionary and a very

573
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>smart guy. Even the big bio Peter Pull in a

574
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I forget it's called the Last Train to Memphis, talks

575
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>about how he was a brilliant thinker. He would write,

576
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he would annotate books. You can go to Graceland and

577
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you see it. He wanted to know things. When he

578
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>would whether he was going to Vegas or movies, he

579
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>always had a higher group of workers carrying two hundred

580
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 2>books because he would just he would just read them,

581
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>read them. He was he really was almost a scholar mind,

582
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant person and a brilliant thinker. Again, he had

583
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>terrible demons, you know, as Heidi's saying. So he always

584
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 2>had that struggle, but really a unique individual.

585
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>He really was the king, right, true cult is they're

586
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>never all darker all light. It's usually the dark in

587
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the light.

588
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I met by Gordon, which he had recently,

589
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.559
<v Speaker 2>and it always sticks with thee. It properly used magic

590
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>will destroy your line. And I've always I think that's right.

591
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 10>Looks like a good cultist. Elvis also is a spook, right.

592
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 10>He was an undercover federal officer.

593
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>He tried, He tried, He really did try, but he

594
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>had an obsession with badges. He had an obsession with authority.

595
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>But I think a lot of it is because he

596
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 2>grew up so poor daddy went to jail, no justice

597
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>all that. Later on he wanted he I mean he

598
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 2>he never wanted to be poor. He never wanted his

599
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>family to suffer. So he had this thing and I

600
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>think he did it also to piss off his dad

601
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>about Badger's authorities. He would go on drug rates dressed

602
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 2>like you know, with a ski mask. He would. He

603
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 2>met Nixon and got a DA badge. I think it

604
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 2>was honorary. So yeah, he was obsessed with bad but

605
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he really like officially worked. But there's

606
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a dark side to it. I think also he liked power.

607
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was the kind of guy that always had,

608
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, not only four black belts, but he was

609
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>always armed to the teas and there was one time

610
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>he went commercial. Yeah, he got mad with his dad

611
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.639
<v Speaker 2>in Priscilla, they're arguing about money because he's spending money

612
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 2>like Crazy's like a few He leaves Graceland, goes to

613
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the airport, shows up at the airport, goes to the

614
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>lady and the lady's like freaking out behind the counters,

615
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 2>like I need a ticket to LA Can you just

616
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>bill me? Yes, mister Presley. He goes in security, grabs

617
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>them and they're like, Elvis, he got all these guns.

618
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, can I take them on the plane

619
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, okay, if you give us an autograph

620
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and keep your mouth shut. And he went on the

621
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 2>plane with all these guns. So he liked the power

622
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and the badge, and I think there is Priscilla always

623
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>said the reason he wanted a DA badge was because

624
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>he never toured any other country. He never left the

625
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>United States. True. Imagine the money the guy made four

626
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars in his career in the money he could

627
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 2>have made in Japan and London all that because he

628
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't he wouldn't go anywhere without his guns and his pills.

629
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>With a DA badge, you can take guns and drugs

630
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 2>in and out of the United States. So right, maybe.

631
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 10>I don't know how much involvement he had in the case,

632
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 10>but he had an undercover FBI agent for a number

633
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 10>of years there in the mid to late seventies and

634
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 10>something that's called Operation Fountain Pen It happened to be

635
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 10>the most one of the most intrigral cases in FBI

636
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 10>history because it's.

637
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Fun into things like abscam abscams.

638
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 10>I don't know how much Elvis undercover had involved with that,

639
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 10>but he at least had undercover guys on his team,

640
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 10>you know, for for that operation.

641
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was. It really had to do more

642
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 2>with his dad, Vernon, because his dad was in charge

643
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 2>of the planes and the money. Again, Elvis didn't have

644
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a wallet, no concept of money. It just wasn't you know.

645
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>He said, buy me a plane, buy me a fleet

646
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of rolls Royces. So it would have to do with

647
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Vernon more than Elvi. It's not something.

648
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 10>Sure they would have been in the know of something

649
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 10>they're going on there, because that case, uh, that case

650
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 10>dominoed into a series of other cases over the next

651
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 10>almost decade exactly.

652
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a bit, it was a big thing,

653
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 2>for sure. But I don't think Elvis was directly involved.

654
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was connected again, he was connected to

655
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the authorities, and he was connected to the mind. But

656
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to Elvis, these are these were his citizens, his underlings

657
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>as far as he concerned. Yeah, this is the guy

658
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 2>that could go to the White House unannounced and get

659
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>a meeting with Nixon. That's how powerful he was. Yeah,

660
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying.

661
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 10>He had a very unique angle, right, He saw every

662
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 10>every kind of every perspective right through these Yeah.

663
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And he never voted. He could care less who was

664
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the president. It was just these things were irrelevant to him.

665
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I like them all he knew because he knew.

666
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 3>A lot of his stories seems very much like the

667
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 3>fool archetype or this kind of hero element of him

668
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>where he ignorantly was pursuing you know, not that he

669
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't have alter pursuits in wanting the badges and so forth,

670
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 3>but the part of it just seems like he's just

671
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>strolling through life trying to you know, portray this you know,

672
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 3>giver of books and knowledge and all these all these

673
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 3>little hints of him just being this ignorant hero.

674
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I do connect him to the trickster archetype, not the

675
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>king archetype. And I think that's a valid one, because

676
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 2>he was a trickster. A trickster brings people into a

677
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>new world, whether it's the Changer or the Coyota Native

678
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 2>lore or Lucky or they are the gods of the doorways.

679
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>The door hinge depends on Hermes and el has brought

680
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this people, this country that have been decimated by the

681
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Great Depression War two, and brought these people to this

682
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>new era where we were the most powerful empire history

683
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>had seen, you know, satellites, nuclear bombs, mass media and

684
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 2>everybody's freaking out. And Elvis with his rock music, He

685
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>and Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard,

686
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>with these sort of shamans who brought and gave the

687
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>people medicine to be able to stand psychologically this change.

688
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean the tricksters at the crossroads. He was at

689
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the crossroads of the old way and this new empire,

690
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the crossloads of the old way gender saw each other

691
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and the new sexuality. Elvis taught women how to objectify men.

692
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Women suddenly had a male gaze and they can look

693
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>at him and say, and this power, this kungalina, this

694
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>eating of the fruit woke women up. But it taught

695
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 2>men to be more sensitive because he looked so vulnerable,

696
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 2>and he taught men, you know, you don't have to

697
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 2>be Gary Cooper. You can be like me or Marlon Brando,

698
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 2>soft and sensitive. He taught. He brought people to the

699
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.880
<v Speaker 2>crossroads of the old religion to all this new spirituality,

700
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to this new music. Were oh my god, we can

701
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>listen to African American music and Hispanic music. I mean,

702
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 2>he was the lord of the crosslers and the trickster.

703
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what the trickster does. And again I feel like

704
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>he is a trickster because if this is the United States,

705
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what our next incarnation is going to be.

706
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 2>But the trickster is the one that takes us. And

707
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>if you trust the trickster, you're going to be alright.

708
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 2>If not, bad things are going to happen.

709
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 8>I feel like he used his music as like a

710
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 8>spiritual kind of modality I don't. I was going to

711
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 8>say earlier, I don't know if he wrote his own stuff.

712
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But he No.

713
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point though. I think when we see

714
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>rock music as a spirituality, it makes perfect sense because again,

715
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>these guys like Johnny Cash and Elvis, there were pastors.

716
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>The term rock and rolling started in Pentecostal churches when

717
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>people would be grabbed by the Holy Spirit that they'd

718
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>be like shaking. And then when rock music came out,

719
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 2>these music critics would go to these concerts say this

720
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>is like a Holy tent revival. What's going on? It's

721
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. They're not handling snakes and doing the

722
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit, but they're like shaking and going crazy. So

723
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and rock music really is a fusion, as many critics

724
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>of notice notice it's of gospel music and the blues.

725
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 2>And by the blues, I mean the devilish trickster African animals.

726
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and Elvis always said I carry heaven and

727
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>hell with me, and I got and I got about

728
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>what you meant. Gospel music, heaven, the blues, hell, This

729
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 2>fusion that was rock music shamanistic altered states, and it

730
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.639
<v Speaker 2>was a way to sort of free people and help

731
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>people as the United States came into is its new identity?

732
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Is this amazing empire that nobody had seen? As I show,

733
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, using the work of Chris Knowles, You've got

734
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 2>like here's technology, human history. Oh look the Samerians. They

735
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of popped. Then we're put putt, putt putt. But

736
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 2>then in nineteen late forties fifties, we shoot up like

737
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>never before, nobody's ever seen that we have it, and

738
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we kind of stopped in the twenty first century. What happened,

739
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>aliens not I mean, whatever happened, It was a mind

740
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 2>blown kind of thing. And you almost needed that trickster energy,

741
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.159
<v Speaker 2>that spirituality as a coping skill. And he never answered

742
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>your question. He never wrote songs because with Elvis, it

743
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>was all about feeling the energy. He always said, I

744
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>can feel like in gospel music, in the blues, the

745
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>plight of the black person, who's disenfranchised, who's homeless. I

746
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 2>feel that energy or gospel music, I feel these people

747
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 2>crying out for Christ in the you know, in the

748
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>fields and all that. So Elvis was always about getting

749
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.119
<v Speaker 2>some music and making it its own and making it.

750
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 8>So unique beautiful, actually, isn't it. I was raised in

751
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 8>a Costle. I can get on board with that.

752
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, was he exposed to that stuff?

753
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 8>Huh?

754
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>He was exposed to that stuff, wasn't he as a younger.

755
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 8>I was going to say, Jerry Lee was Jerry Lee

756
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 8>came from gospel too.

757
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>You're all Pentecostals. And again, as scholars have said, Pentecostalism

758
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>is Christian mystery school. Shamanism are altered states of mind,

759
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 2>healing your body, your mind, and that's what these guys were.

760
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 8>That's one hundred dude. Should have you should have seen

761
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 8>the people at my church. They would be rolling around

762
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 8>and shouting and jumping out. I mean, I loved it.

763
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 8>I thought it was great. As a kid, I'd look

764
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 8>forward to going to church. I'd even get in on it.

765
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 8>But it's, uh, yeah, it's it's cool. I like where

766
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 8>you went with that, because it does sound like that,

767
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 8>you know, gospel bluesy kind of cool sound.

768
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And people used to remember pentecostal I mean, obviously

769
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 2>people hated the blues in the forties, not just the whites,

770
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 2>black proper black people hated the blues with it because

771
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 2>it was so corruptive and dangerous. But they had a

772
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.719
<v Speaker 2>problem with Pentecostalism too, because they used to say these Pentecostals,

773
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 2>they're mixing Jesus and sex, that's all they're doing. And

774
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 2>that became rock and roll.

775
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 9>Well in Memphis when you get into that Memphis area,

776
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 9>just what is it west they call uh hell in

777
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.960
<v Speaker 9>the Arkansas area West Memphis, which is basically where Robert

778
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.480
<v Speaker 9>Johnson went out and went to the Crossroads and you know,

779
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 9>signed the deal with Papa Legba and came back. So

780
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 9>that whole area is kind of really just uh you know,

781
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 9>like a like a prime place you know, for for this, Yeah,

782
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 9>this energetic kind of you know music.

783
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>And guess what. Robert Johnson he died the same day

784
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Elvis died. I bet they both.

785
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, they died on the same day.

786
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

787
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 8>Mark Johnson was like a million years old.

788
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 9>He was twenty seven. He was the first twenty seven.

789
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I know. But I thought like it was

790
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 8>like a million years ago that he did that, because

791
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 8>all the pictures you see of him are like black

792
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 8>and white, like holding a guitar. It just looks super

793
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 8>old to me. I thought it was like in the

794
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 8>thirties or something. But no, yeah, I saw that recording

795
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.519
<v Speaker 8>studio in Memphis, and I always thought it was kind

796
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 8>of in your face a little bit, like with what

797
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 8>they had going on.

798
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 9>And it's the same studio.

799
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, with that, with all the

800
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>anthroposophy and everything, do you think he ever like channeled anything,

801
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 1>you know where he would act completely different.

802
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean obviously he knew he obviously knew how.

803
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he certainly had altered states

804
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of mind. Again, the astral travel he would do a lot. Yeah,

805
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>he could change. He had the power to read minds.

806
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>People could be freaked out because he could. He could

807
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>read you, you know, exactly what you're thinking, what you're

808
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>going to do. When he was in a bad mood.

809
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>He had a way of just crushing your soul, which

810
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>he got in from his mother. You know these people

811
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>they walk into the room and you can feel him

812
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>just suck all the energy up. His mother could do

813
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 2>it to anybody, no matter how rich they were when

814
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 2>she wore And yeah, he had really powerful abilities.

815
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 4>So what was in your opinion, what do you think,

816
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 4>I know you mentioned theosophy before. What do you think

817
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 4>was like some of his I guess major influences. He

818
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 4>came to the occult Oh my.

819
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 2>God, everything you name it. Yes, theosophy, he loved the Onanda,

820
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Manly p Hall, but he got into really anything. Khalilki brains,

821
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>a prophet, gerjiev Hermann essay, he read Albert Pike. He

822
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>loved morals and dogma. I mean again, this guy was

823
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 2>reading one hundred some books a week and he wanted

824
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>to know because what happened is that he was really burned,

825
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, not just the death of his mother. But

826
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 2>we have to forget Elvis came and it was like

827
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a nuclear bomb. You know, for three years he was

828
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the most famous person on earth. He was already the goat,

829
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the king of rock and roll. It was, you know,

830
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a settle, kind of like Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky.

831
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 2>You just know that's it. Nobody's gonna come. You know

832
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>it in your heart. But we have to remember that

833
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the country hated his guts. They hated

834
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>how he was liberating women. How dangerous is music? I mean,

835
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the government was worried. The Christians were very pissed off.

836
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his own pastor said that he'd been possessed

837
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>by the devil. Billy Graham went publicly and denounced him.

838
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>People like Frank Sinatra were just pissed off. I mean,

839
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 2>he was a threat, and he was completely burned by Christianity,

840
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and so he was like, maybe these assholes are just

841
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a business, and I'm really angry at

842
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And plus he had already said there's no way there's

843
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>eternal hell. He'd already believed in re incarnation when he

844
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 2>was a teenager. He just said, it's just normal, it's

845
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>just logically, it's a logical thing. So he was burned,

846
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and then he became kind of after the army, he

847
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 2>became disillusioned with his fame and all that. He met

848
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 2>his spiritual teacher, Larry Geller, and the books that he

849
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>got him gave him the Jesus he needed, which was

850
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 2>the cosmic Jesus, that inner Christ, the wise teacher Jesus.

851
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So anywhere this Jesus was, whether it was the gnostic

852
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Gospels or manly p hall with the mystical Christ, or Theosophy,

853
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>he was so happy to learn, and he was so

854
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>happy to believe that we all have Christ within us,

855
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 2>we all can bring this Christ, and some do. And

856
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>these are some wise people throughout history that are there

857
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>for the betterment of men he ascended masters. Maybe it's

858
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons, maybe it's Buddhas or ast Jesus. But he

859
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 2>was so happy that there was hope and we all

860
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 2>had a christ power within us. And he always hoped

861
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that he perhaps could be this next religious teacher. But

862
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't going to do it. He had to have

863
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the call until I was self actualized would he do it?

864
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And it never happened. But he was so hopeful. So

865
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.039
<v Speaker 2>all these traditions and it went to the east could

866
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.559
<v Speaker 2>be Daoism. Buddhism gave him this hope, this idea of

867
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Christ's consciousness and a way to get closer to God

868
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 2>and also answer the big questions because he always wondered, well,

869
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 2>why did my twin die? We came out thirty minutes apart.

870
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Why did he die? Why was I born poor? If

871
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd been rich, we could have afforded a hospital and

872
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I had at home. Why did I get stinking rich?

873
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But other people in the South are forgotten and they

874
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 2>lived in Squalor. So he was always trying to figure

875
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 2>out the nature of evil and God and all that.

876
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Was there an issue with the second baby's delivery, was

877
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>there like a placenta detachment possibly, and that's why she

878
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have any more kids.

879
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you know, Yeah, I don't think we know. I mean, yeah,

880
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>it's a good question, but.

881
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I am a nurse. I was just kidding.

882
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:21.760
<v Speaker 11>I know. Yeah.

883
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But one thing you find out is that if you

884
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 2>grew up in the Great Depression in the South, you

885
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:30.360
<v Speaker 2>were forgotten. Doesn't matter what race you were. It was horrible.

886
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 2>It was like North Korea living so records aren't bad.

887
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 2>And these people, like they said, where Elvis lived, it

888
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>was on the wrong side of the wrong side of

889
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the tracks, so there was not records. He couldn't afford

890
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't afford a hospital, so they had to have

891
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 2>it in his little house. That was probably not a midwife.

892
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Jesse came first, right, Jesse came first. He came out stillborn.

893
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Elvis came out thirty five minutes later. They put him

894
00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>in an oven because they were so apparent that he

895
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 2>did it up. That's how paranoid. Then they went to

896
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the hospital and then they simply told Gladys that's it,

897
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>you're done. So that was It was a horrible existence.

898
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Because there was one time when Elvis had a fever

899
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and tonsilitis and they went to the doctor's like, I

900
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 2>can't do anything for you. So they had to do

901
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like a prayer circle around them, and in a few

902
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.960
<v Speaker 2>hours they healed them. So you wonder why these people

903
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 2>were leaning so much on the Holy Spirit a lot,

904
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's amazing this happened in this country. I

905
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>still even when I went to Mississippi, I went to Memphis,

906
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>driving through Mississippi, I'm like, God, damn, what's wrong with

907
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 2>this country. These people are forgotten. These people deserve better.

908
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 2>We have all this money for wars, but we have

909
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 2>these people in places like Mississippi, good people, and they're

910
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:48.519
<v Speaker 2>just they're forgotten.

911
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 9>And Elvis, Yeah, projects with no doors and no windows.

912
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 9>It's yeah, pretty bad.

913
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. It's incredible.

914
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Man, I had on something some of the themes of

915
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.840
<v Speaker 3>what you've been saying, Miguel Is, I think he really

916
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of did succeed as you're describing his initiate character

917
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 3>of that trickster God in a lot of ways. As

918
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 3>we refer to the politics of the nation back then,

919
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 3>it was divided in a very physical ordained manner and

920
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 3>really like we couldn't even conceptualize combining Karate with Hinduism

921
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 3>and all the and Manly p Hall and and all

922
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>these things that he was combining in what we consider

923
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 3>today to be a really Americana kind of thing, but

924
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 3>back then it wasn't. And as occultist, I think we

925
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 3>all embody finding at least the comparative, if not the syncretic,

926
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 3>which he actually put forth, a syncretic esoteric possibility like

927
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:58.920
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I can be like Bruce Lee and Manley

928
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 3>p Hall or what have you? Even a baseball player

929
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and kung fu any number of things. So he really,

930
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways did initiate us into that potential.

931
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Well said, no, I couldn't have said it better. True. Again,

932
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.159
<v Speaker 2>he was the lord of the cross Rods. He brought

933
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, made it acceptable, even black music. He

934
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>did something that almost got him killed. He dated a

935
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.800
<v Speaker 2>black girl in high school, right the sheriffs almost ended

936
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>his life. He would go if he wanted to listen

937
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to gospel music black, he would go to this church.

938
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 2>He was the one at the back, isolated, segregated from

939
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 2>the congrege. And he didn't care because he was like

940
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 2>this shit is good. I don't give a shit. And

941
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>he brought it out. You know, it's the same with spirituality,

942
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 2>like I said, martial arts so much, and even the media.

943
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Elvis knew how to use media and technology. He knew

944
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the importance of TV, satellites, the jukebox.

945
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

946
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.199
<v Speaker 2>He made it cool for the population to say, hey,

947
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>this is so let's embrace this stuff. Let's let's see it.

948
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 8>What did he do with like these extraterrestrial encounters. Did

949
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 8>he like try to tell people about him? Was it

950
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 8>like hush hush, Like I think that's kind of dope.

951
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 8>Like Elvis, you know, King of Rock, extraterrestrial, extraordinary shaman, occultist,

952
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 8>Like what the heck?

953
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had a great voice. Sorry, right excited, but

954
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 2>uh no, he again, he was so ahead of the

955
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>curve when it came to UFOs. By the sixties, I

956
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 2>believed in, uh let's keep quiet. By the sixties he

957
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.880
<v Speaker 2>already thought had very sophisticated views on UFOs. For example,

958
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 2>he was one of the first people to read Vondanikin's

959
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Chariots of the Gods. So he's like, maybe we are

960
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 2>ancient aliens, he said, he very much was voice, very loudly,

961
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:04.480
<v Speaker 2>how the aliens were stopping us from destroying ourselves, and

962
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.039
<v Speaker 2>he believed in the star seed. I mean, these were

963
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 2>ideas like us that he sort of balanced out. He'd

964
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 2>read Ezekiel. He read Ezekiel, and he's like, these these

965
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>wheels gotta be aliens. So very he read the Book

966
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 2>of Enoch and wondered, well, maybe they're aliens, you know,

967
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of today where the religion and eufology are no

968
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 2>longer separated. Back then it was very separated. He was

969
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.599
<v Speaker 2>one of the first pioneers to do that. And he

970
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 2>always talked to you know. Again, he had his experiences

971
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 2>of seeing Eufo's lights and all that. He added with

972
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 2>his bodyguards as spiritual teachers, so he would talk to

973
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 2>them about it. But he'd never made it like he

974
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 2>never went to the press or anything like that. It wasn't.

975
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 2>He used to say, yeah, even me, they'll think I'm

976
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>crazy and put me away. And so he was very,

977
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>very sophisticated in how we saw eupology. He read the

978
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Book of Urante. Uh you read uh. Yeah. He was

979
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.639
<v Speaker 2>very first in the whole Ufo thing, very very.

980
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 8>So did he think we like did he believe in

981
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 8>heaven and stuff like we're what did What were his thoughts.

982
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 2>On that like, yeah, that's a good one he thought.

983
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>And it's actually similar to what the Gnostics thought. He thought,

984
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:28.400
<v Speaker 2>You are incarnated, but it's all your choice or adventure.

985
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>If you choose the material path every r incarnation, you're

986
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.519
<v Speaker 2>going to go down, down, down, and eventually just poof,

987
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:40.679
<v Speaker 2>just integrate. But if you keep getting better every life,

988
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 2>eventually you'll reach whatever the like, God, whatever you want

989
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to call it. So it's a very sophisticated. I think

990
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the Gnostics had that idea that you know, it's your choice,

991
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you get to choose, nobody else chooses what's going to happen.

992
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 8>So do you think, like Lisa Marie like in her

993
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.320
<v Speaker 8>mom obviously, like you would think growing up with this

994
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 8>guy as a dad, you might have some of these

995
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.119
<v Speaker 8>same like beliefs and stuff. But they went totally left.

996
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.280
<v Speaker 8>They went scientology. It just seems odd to me. It's

997
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 8>like if you had a cool dad like this, literally

998
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 8>it's Elvis. And then she married Michael Jackson for a while,

999
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 8>Like I don't know what's going on with her, but scientology,

1000
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.079
<v Speaker 8>Like really, I don't get it.

1001
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 1>They were predators and he made more sense, yeah, than

1002
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the marriage with Michael Jackson.

1003
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what the hell was that?

1004
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 8>Like, literally, what is going on with her?

1005
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>As? Right? Yeah? Yeah she was but she was a kid.

1006
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she was young, and uh, I don't want to

1007
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:52.119
<v Speaker 2>talk for Priscilla. When you look at Elvis fandom, he

1008
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>is Uh. I don't know if it's fair or not.

1009
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of if you guys to watch Breaking Bad.

1010
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 2>You ever noticed everybody hates Sky, but that's the last

1011
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>person you should hate. It's like there's so many other villains.

1012
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, Walter White is far more evil than his wife.

1013
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>But so I try not to judge, but least about

1014
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Priscilla is seen as almost the devil with in the

1015
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Elvis fandom Lady Macbeth Narcisses.

1016
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 5>So she did have that red hair.

1017
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Though maybe.

1018
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.400
<v Speaker 2>You had to survive Elvis because we have to. When

1019
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you lived with Elvis, it was always chaos every day.

1020
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was press, celebrities, always something going on.

1021
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Elvis was always out of control, and he did what

1022
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do. I mean he'd do stuff like

1023
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:40.840
<v Speaker 2>he'd wake up and say, I'm in the mood for

1024
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>this peanut butter. Right, peanut butter sandwich in Denver, you know,

1025
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.679
<v Speaker 2>light up the planes we're leaving in an hour. That's

1026
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a kind of life he led. It was just Vegas.

1027
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:55.239
<v Speaker 2>It was constant chaos. To be in Elvis's orbit, regardless

1028
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 2>whether you're a bodyguard a family member, was just it

1029
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>was out of control. It was exhausting, It was wonderful,

1030
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>it was a bless but you could barely. I think

1031
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the reason people didn't say more, because it was

1032
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>just there was so much going on. How could you

1033
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>even stop to talk to the press about UFO's or something.

1034
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 8>It's yeah, she in her book, she kind of makes

1035
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:22.239
<v Speaker 8>him sound like a real pos I'm not gonna lie.

1036
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.480
<v Speaker 8>Like when I read her book, I was like, fuck

1037
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.920
<v Speaker 8>this guy, like this guy which one Lisa Priscilla or

1038
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 8>Priscilla's book. It was kind of like, I mean, obviously

1039
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 8>there's After I read her book, I was like, oh,

1040
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:41.239
<v Speaker 8>hell now some of the stuffy like you know, but

1041
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 8>you get to a certain point where if you get

1042
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 8>married that young and you have that weird lifestyle, you're

1043
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:50.280
<v Speaker 8>gonna at some point not like each other anymore.

1044
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and you have to and also you have

1045
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.800
<v Speaker 2>to take it with a grain of salt, Like there's

1046
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>this in the first edition of her book, there's a

1047
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 2>scene where before they broke up, Elvis essay the she

1048
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.880
<v Speaker 2>backtracked and took it out because she said, I was

1049
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 2>just angry at him. And then there's a like another

1050
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.079
<v Speaker 2>one where she says, Elvis always wanted me to have

1051
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.800
<v Speaker 2>a buffont and he controlled what. Yes, she did say that,

1052
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 2>but when you look at pictures of her, she's got

1053
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>her hair down at the press or she'd say Elvis

1054
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't let allow me to leave Graceland. But there's pictures

1055
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 2>of her in New York and Jet saying so again,

1056
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you know things that happened between couples. Yeah, you want

1057
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 2>to take aside. I try not to, you know what

1058
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Yeah, he was abusive, she was abusive. He

1059
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>was not faithful, she was not faithful. It's a I

1060
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know there Again, Elvis was cursed.

1061
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 8>And I was going to say, I mean she was

1062
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 8>so young, so so young when they got married. And

1063
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 8>obviously if it's like that thing, like if everybody wants

1064
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.679
<v Speaker 8>to screw your husband, I mean, that's that's that's not

1065
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:05.679
<v Speaker 8>a good place to be.

1066
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 5>Well, he didn't want to give it to her, So

1067
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 5>that's what I'm saying.

1068
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:14.079
<v Speaker 8>It's like, oh, it's like everybody wants to screw him

1069
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 8>and I can't even get any Like, what is this about?

1070
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:20.599
<v Speaker 5>Master came in?

1071
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 8>You're right, probably some of his spiritual.

1072
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Beliefs, Margaret and she's at home, do you think but

1073
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 2>do you.

1074
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 8>Think that's part of his spiritualism or do you think

1075
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 8>that's part of like him running around on her? Because

1076
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 8>I've always heard like, you shouldn't give up your life essence.

1077
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.920
<v Speaker 8>Every time you sleep with somebody, you're giving up like

1078
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.599
<v Speaker 8>your life essence. This is like a big spirituality thing.

1079
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 8>And he really didn't have sex with Priscilla, like hardly

1080
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 8>ever maybe to have Lisa Marie and then that was it.

1081
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:57.400
<v Speaker 5>After that, didn't you do sex magic though? With some peoples?

1082
01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 11>Right up?

1083
01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 8>Like there's got to be something to that.

1084
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, here's one. Yeah, one theory states again because

1085
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 2>remember he's got the mommy issue, bad mommy issues. So

1086
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.599
<v Speaker 2>it is said that he couldnt have sex with women

1087
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 2>who had conceived children too much of a mother archetype.

1088
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:22.239
<v Speaker 2>That was an issue now and there are some there's

1089
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 2>evidence for it. But then there's evidence like Priscilla was

1090
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in Peters Morgan and she talked about when he went

1091
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 2>to Vegas in the seventies they had the best fling ever.

1092
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's hard, but that was that was an issue too,

1093
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:41.239
<v Speaker 2>they say with Elvis. And also you have to think too,

1094
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 2>is people who lose their twins at a young age.

1095
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Twinless survivors are always they're very they're workaholics, they are

1096
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 2>a seekers, but they are very self destructive, addiction prone

1097
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 2>and can never have normal relationships. Then of course there's

1098
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.400
<v Speaker 2>a problem. People who have enmeshment issues, lethal enmeshment issues,

1099
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 2>same thing. They have a propensity for addiction, they're self destructive,

1100
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and they can't have normal relations So Elvis had the

1101
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 2>double whammy of you know what I mean and even

1102
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.679
<v Speaker 2>admitted I think in like before he died, he looked

1103
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:26.280
<v Speaker 2>at his friend Charlie Hodges and he quoted from Khalil

1104
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>your brain's love. You know, love will crown you and

1105
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 2>crucify you. And he told them, I realized, I'm forty

1106
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 2>two and I've never been able. I've never loved a

1107
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.920
<v Speaker 2>woman properly. I can't believe I've just learning this now.

1108
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:40.360
<v Speaker 2>He was going to get married to ginger Alden, but

1109
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 2>he finally had forty two was like, Holy mother, I've

1110
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 2>just wasted my entire life, and I've got to fix this.

1111
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.119
<v Speaker 2>But you know, time around now, I'm shocked.

1112
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked he didn't marry an older woman with his

1113
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:53.599
<v Speaker 1>whole situation with the.

1114
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 8>End, well, it'd have to be an older woman who

1115
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:02.559
<v Speaker 8>never conceived a lot of them out, an older woman

1116
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.400
<v Speaker 8>that looked like his mom, who'd never can see who

1117
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 8>was in ritualism.

1118
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 4>That's a very very it's just like such a small

1119
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 4>slover the population to choose from.

1120
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 8>Right there, So you said, like he predicted his death,

1121
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 8>and he would like who did he tell? Did he

1122
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.119
<v Speaker 8>like have journals or something that somebody went back and read.

1123
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, he told people things he was like doing.

1124
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 2>He was acting differently, like making sure that documents and

1125
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.039
<v Speaker 2>contracts were set. He remembered telling a friend out of nowhere,

1126
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, angels fly because they take themselves so lightly.

1127
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 2>And the way he said it to his friend freaked

1128
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 2>him out. He would drive from Memphis to Mississippi with

1129
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a friend at night and he would be looking under

1130
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the house for his lost marbles. Just very strange behavior.

1131
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:04.599
<v Speaker 2>And he dropped all these hints and I showed them

1132
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 2>in the book. But the most obvious one is two

1133
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:12.039
<v Speaker 2>days before he passed, he was in his room just

1134
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, on drugs and pain, just in his bed,

1135
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 2>but he was reading all these occult books and the

1136
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Bible and all that. And his stepbrother David Stanley called

1137
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:25.119
<v Speaker 2>his stepbrother, David Stanley to talk to him. His stepbrother

1138
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>needed advice. And then he turned to his brother and

1139
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.679
<v Speaker 2>he said, I want to tell you something. In two days,

1140
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.559
<v Speaker 2>I am going to be on a higher plane. And

1141
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 2>his stepbrothers, yeah, we got to catch a plane to

1142
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Portland for the concert. And Elvis like rolled his eyes like, hey, pearls,

1143
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, pearls for pigs, and you know, said I

1144
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 2>love you and I'll talk to you. But he was right.

1145
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Two days he was not around.

1146
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.159
<v Speaker 8>That's kind of crazy actually, because I thought he was

1147
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 8>like at the end of his life, he was kind

1148
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 8>of like sat and bloated and useless. Sorry, go ahead you,

1149
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:02.840
<v Speaker 8>oh no, thank you.

1150
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, my computer was lacking. I heard a rumor that

1151
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 3>he also had some experiences when he was a child.

1152
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Obviously these would be more difficult to corroborate. But were

1153
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 3>there stories about these UFO experiences when he was a child,

1154
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and can you break down the lenin and Jesus, cloud formation.

1155
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear about that? Yeah, I haven't heard anything

1156
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:36.280
<v Speaker 2>about UFOs when he was a child, So that one

1157
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard. What was the second question before the

1158
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:41.480
<v Speaker 2>lenin one?

1159
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:46.599
<v Speaker 3>I saw when he was driving between Memphis and LA

1160
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 3>that he saw a cloud formation of lenin and then Jesus,

1161
01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:53.559
<v Speaker 3>if that's I believe right?

1162
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it was.

1163
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:56.599
<v Speaker 11>He was.

1164
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 2>He had been practicing spirituality. It was very earnest and

1165
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.039
<v Speaker 2>reading a lot, and they were driving from Memphis to LA.

1166
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:07.199
<v Speaker 2>He didn't like to fly for some reason for years,

1167
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.599
<v Speaker 2>so they drive these mobile homes and he was driving

1168
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 2>and he was frustrated, and he got angry at a

1169
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.960
<v Speaker 2>spiritual teacher and said, look, I'm doing this thing. I

1170
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 2>don't feel I'm getting closer to God. And his teacher said,

1171
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.760
<v Speaker 2>gave him the Zen parable where the teacher puts and

1172
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 2>tells the student of port and the water comes out

1173
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:28.639
<v Speaker 2>and the students like freaking out, and said, yes, your

1174
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 2>cup is too full. The only way for God to

1175
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 2>come in is you got to empty yourself. So you

1176
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 2>need to chill out with the studying and all that

1177
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and just let God come to you when he's ready.

1178
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So then they had this discussion. They're driving through Arizona

1179
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.239
<v Speaker 2>and he and his spiritual teacher Larry Gilla, look up

1180
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and they both see the clouds are forming and it

1181
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 2>turns into the ultimate visage of evil, which back then

1182
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.199
<v Speaker 2>was not letting, it was Stalin. So it became the

1183
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 2>face of Stalin mocking and Elvis like pulls to one side.

1184
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 2>And remember there's a whole convoy of these and he

1185
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.159
<v Speaker 2>runs into the desert with Larry and he's like facing

1186
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 2>this thing, and Elvis is basically saying, you know, I

1187
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.719
<v Speaker 2>just realized I am not empty, and there's a lot

1188
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 2>of evil in me, and now evil is showing itself

1189
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:22.560
<v Speaker 2>in the world, in the in the sky. So he

1190
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.560
<v Speaker 2>went to this this demon or whatever and said, look,

1191
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.600
<v Speaker 2>if this evil is within me, destroy me. I get it,

1192
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:31.880
<v Speaker 2>take me off the chessboard. I wasn't able to do

1193
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.560
<v Speaker 2>it this lifetime. I'm humbly, you know, bowing down. And

1194
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.640
<v Speaker 2>then suddenly this evil went down into but turned into Jesus,

1195
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:42.439
<v Speaker 2>and he was filled with the power of Christ and

1196
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 2>he felt this bliss that he had never felt before.

1197
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 2>And again his friend Larry was there and they both

1198
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 2>started hugging each other and like, Elvis, you know, I'll

1199
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.119
<v Speaker 2>never doubt. I know there is a God. I know

1200
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 2>there is a purpose. So it's a very powerful mystic

1201
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 2>experience that again, you know, kept him going and kept

1202
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 2>him with his studies for the rest of his life.

1203
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 2>And like I say in the book, it's interesting because

1204
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.000
<v Speaker 2>philip Ate Dick, not too far away around that time,

1205
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 2>had the same vision, except Dick was walking to a

1206
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>place he used to write, and he looked up and

1207
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 2>then the clouds formed into this metallic demiurge creature looking

1208
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:24.680
<v Speaker 2>down on him, laughing at him, and Dick freaked out

1209
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and ran off. And the parallels that they both it

1210
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 2>brought him closer to Jesus, and it brought him closer

1211
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 2>to studying the occult. So interesting parallels right there.

1212
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 4>One thing I wanted to ask, I think I heard

1213
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you bring up. It's probably in the book as well,

1214
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:44.680
<v Speaker 4>is his lightning bolt symbolism. I think you said it

1215
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of came from It might have been Marvel, which

1216
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 4>had a cult you connotations behind it.

1217
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean one of his big heroes was

1218
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Captain Marvel. He was a big comic book reader. And

1219
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:59.399
<v Speaker 2>by Captain Marvel, I don't mean like the one we

1220
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 2>know today. The one that you've seen in the movies

1221
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:04.600
<v Speaker 2>that well you do is the Shazam. That's who Captain

1222
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Marvel was in the forties and fifties. And the light

1223
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:11.720
<v Speaker 2>has the lightning bulb. It's a Shazam. And of all

1224
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the heroes that became what he idolized, he was open

1225
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 2>about it was Captain Marvel. That's the most occult hero.

1226
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.000
<v Speaker 2>This is a being. You have. This guy go sees

1227
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 2>a wizard and the wizard gives him the power of

1228
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Solomon and Hercules and Atlas and Ermes and he says,

1229
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 2>says am and suddenly and Elvis just loved it. He

1230
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:34.680
<v Speaker 2>used to think it was a story of, you know,

1231
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 2>especially Captain Marvel junior, of a kid who can turn

1232
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.600
<v Speaker 2>into a superhero. And he sort of always said if

1233
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he can turn into superhero, I can, but he cheat.

1234
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 2>He did choose the most magical one and it kept him.

1235
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 3>So.

1236
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the lightning bult became like his logo, He's taking

1237
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:54.840
<v Speaker 2>care of business and the lightning bolt. It was extremely important.

1238
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.600
<v Speaker 2>And when you look at his Vegas costume, it makes

1239
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.359
<v Speaker 2>sense because when you see him with the short cape

1240
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.199
<v Speaker 2>and everything else, you realize, wait a second, he's dressing

1241
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:07.039
<v Speaker 2>up like Shazam. That's which he was. It was like

1242
01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 2>his hero. So it's a Captain Marvel is fascinating because

1243
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the writer behind Captain Marvel or Shazam, Odo Binder. This

1244
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>guy was steeped into eufology and the occult and all that.

1245
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a fascinating connection. And I'm writing now

1246
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to the other book, Elvis two point zero, which is

1247
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 2>David Bowie, where I just realized they're both the same character.

1248
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I was going.

1249
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 4>If you think he influenced David Bowie, I was actually

1250
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 4>going to ask you that, oh he is.

1251
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.920
<v Speaker 2>The light blow too, blow by blow. I mean, Bowie

1252
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 2>knew they knew each other. Bowie knew what Elvis was

1253
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:51.039
<v Speaker 2>doing and tapped into the same powers. In fact, Captain

1254
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Marvel is behind Bowie too, Elvis Captain Marvel. There's this

1255
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.680
<v Speaker 2>very weird nexus with Elvis Bowie, Captain Marvel, Philip k

1256
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Did and Ridley Scott that is, and William Burrows and

1257
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.399
<v Speaker 2>all these cats, and it's a it's pretty well, it's

1258
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:09.680
<v Speaker 2>pure magic. It's almost like their own secret society.

1259
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:13.640
<v Speaker 8>I've always thought that about Marvel. They put so much

1260
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:18.079
<v Speaker 8>stuff in those movies. I mean it's almost like ridiculous.

1261
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 8>There's even the spinoff shows. I don't know if you

1262
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 8>watched any of them. They're all like on the Disney

1263
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:27.760
<v Speaker 8>Plus or whatever. There's one called Moon Night, and it's

1264
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:32.039
<v Speaker 8>so oh my goodness, it's just retarded with it. But

1265
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 8>so you think, like David Bowie, he was like on

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01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 8>the same kind of like spiritual wave of because he

1267
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 8>had kind of like an alter ego, right, Ziggy Stardust

1268
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.279
<v Speaker 8>and many great.

1269
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 4>White dudes, they reinvented themselves over and over and over again. Actually,

1270
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Elvis and David.

1271
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Bow very true. I mean it's almost like and Bowie

1272
01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:58.399
<v Speaker 2>admits it. When he started wearing Ziggy Starduck with the jumpsuits,

1273
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, Elvin, you know, it was always I'm going

1274
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to tap into the same magic. I mean, Bowie saw

1275
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 2>him in concert, and Bowie he went to his wife

1276
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, wow, women are just throwing themselves at him,

1277
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and his wife is like, just the first time you

1278
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.399
<v Speaker 2>noticed that Elvis was sexy, And Bowie's like, yes, but

1279
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 2>now I know how, and you know, and Elvis sent

1280
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:28.720
<v Speaker 2>them notes. And the great secret is that before Elvis died,

1281
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.479
<v Speaker 2>he actually called David Bowie said would you produce my

1282
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 2>next album? And Bowie was like, shit, yeah, but it

1283
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen. You know, Bowie was just completely crushed. But yeah,

1284
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the parallels between them two is it's very freaky and

1285
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:46.199
<v Speaker 2>there were influences a lot of the same books that

1286
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:51.399
<v Speaker 2>were reading, and it's almost, yeah, two Tricksters, two Starman.

1287
01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:56.479
<v Speaker 2>If you know what I mean to space age Messiahs,

1288
01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that's it.

1289
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:01.800
<v Speaker 8>I think Bowie kind of more openly though. I always

1290
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 8>had such a thing for him because he was like

1291
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 8>magical almost, like even his songs and like some of

1292
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:13.640
<v Speaker 8>the lyrics are just like Starman. I always loved him,

1293
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:16.119
<v Speaker 8>but Elvis kind of kept it more under wraps. I

1294
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:18.199
<v Speaker 8>guess that's why I never knew this stuff about him,

1295
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:22.119
<v Speaker 8>because if you look at his songs really there they

1296
01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 8>are like the more like handholdy kind of bubblegum stuff.

1297
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.000
<v Speaker 8>So and then you look at David Bowie and it's like,

1298
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.640
<v Speaker 8>I think I just astro projected after that album, like you.

1299
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.960
<v Speaker 12>All not when Elvis got into that Egyptian deal though

1300
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 12>he got And then I think they're just so sacred feminine,

1301
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.159
<v Speaker 12>like honestly, the way they're dressing everything like they're just.

1302
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:50.119
<v Speaker 8>What are some of his like topics besides that, like

1303
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:54.279
<v Speaker 8>his book, like his hits that were besides like returned

1304
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:56.840
<v Speaker 8>to Cinder and like stuff like that. Like what what

1305
01:14:57.319 --> 01:14:59.119
<v Speaker 8>were like his egyptiany ones.

1306
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Again, Elvis was looking at the powers underneath them. That's

1307
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.079
<v Speaker 2>what he wanted to make it himself and to show

1308
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 2>these emotions. Again, his concerts were like Dionysian festivals where

1309
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.640
<v Speaker 2>women were sometimes almost tore him apart. You know when

1310
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.000
<v Speaker 2>David Bowie found that secret. He had women also just

1311
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:24.319
<v Speaker 2>doing that. But it's really not You have to listen

1312
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 2>to some of his gospel music, Like I would advise

1313
01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:31.159
<v Speaker 2>you guys, listen to the Life version of American Trilogy

1314
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and you'll be like, now I know what it is

1315
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:36.079
<v Speaker 2>to be an American. It's so touching. He talks about

1316
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:39.239
<v Speaker 2>the cotton fields and struggling in the working class, and

1317
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:42.119
<v Speaker 2>he makes it in a way that only Elvis could

1318
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 2>do it, or some like how great thou art? You

1319
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.720
<v Speaker 2>feel this power that's just beyond you. I think that's

1320
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Heartbreak Hotel the first his first single, which people like

1321
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 2>John Lennon and Bob Dylan said when they heard that song,

1322
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.479
<v Speaker 2>it was like a spiritual Awakening is a song about

1323
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.720
<v Speaker 2>suic you know, it's about a guy who goes into

1324
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.159
<v Speaker 2>a hotel room and it's like I'm done. It's a

1325
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:09.359
<v Speaker 2>very existentialist song. So you see this sort of yeah,

1326
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you see this hidden all over the place, and a

1327
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of his music and he had a couple of

1328
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:18.479
<v Speaker 2>social songs if I Can Dream, beautiful song that he

1329
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:23.239
<v Speaker 2>wrote in the ghetto, very powerful songs. Yeah, there's something

1330
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.760
<v Speaker 2>about Elvis. It's almost like you hear it for the

1331
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 2>first time and it's always new. I mean, the only thing,

1332
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.479
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I can think of, because we all

1333
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:34.600
<v Speaker 2>want newness, we want something like I've never heard this before.

1334
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm reborn. It's fresh. Like first time

1335
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I ever heard Running with the Devil by Van Halen,

1336
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is this. I've never heard this.

1337
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard a sound like that. Or Jimmy Hendrix.

1338
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 2>You hear his ribs and you go, oh my god,

1339
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.960
<v Speaker 2>this is new. There is something new under the sun

1340
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and it just revitalized it. I feel that with Elvis,

1341
01:16:56.680 --> 01:16:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and in a lot of ways Bowie too. It's like

1342
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:02.840
<v Speaker 2>they're tapping like David Gilmour, You're like you're tapping deep

1343
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:07.119
<v Speaker 2>into another realm, into an archetypal place, and you're bring

1344
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.560
<v Speaker 2>these energies up. Elvis could just do it with his voice,

1345
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:12.520
<v Speaker 2>but these guys could do it with their guitar.

1346
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:14.600
<v Speaker 8>And his body too. Holy crap.

1347
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1348
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:19.399
<v Speaker 9>Well, and also with Elvis, he kind of, you know,

1349
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:26.319
<v Speaker 9>crossed all the musical genres rockabilly, you know, surf music, gospel, country,

1350
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:29.640
<v Speaker 9>rock and roll. Like I mean, he pretty much pliferated,

1351
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.680
<v Speaker 9>you know, all the tendrils, you know, they.

1352
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Throw them all together in a stew and just said,

1353
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.119
<v Speaker 2>this is it heaven and hell.

1354
01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 13>I feel.

1355
01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.119
<v Speaker 8>Off a little bit. Sorry, go ahead, Oh well, you're

1356
01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:44.560
<v Speaker 8>probably right.

1357
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:45.880
<v Speaker 10>A lot of people I think ripped him off a

1358
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.079
<v Speaker 10>little bit, you know what I mean, because he had

1359
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:48.600
<v Speaker 10>an unrivaled stage presence.

1360
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:52.640
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it was magical, who knows, Maybe he had a

1361
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:53.960
<v Speaker 5>talisman in his pocket.

1362
01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Happy to see me, sh.

1363
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:02.920
<v Speaker 5>That's what Joso said.

1364
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 2>But but it was all natural. He was, I mean,

1365
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:13.119
<v Speaker 2>his hips and everything was nerves. If you look at

1366
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the bass lerma, he wasn't trying it, just he was

1367
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.039
<v Speaker 2>so nervous. He was an introvert. That's the thing that's freaky.

1368
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 2>He liked even later in his career, just he could

1369
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.079
<v Speaker 2>sit outside in his yard and stare at the sky

1370
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.319
<v Speaker 2>for hours. He liked being alone and he got his

1371
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 2>He loved being alone. So the fact he could just

1372
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.720
<v Speaker 2>turn into this idol, this dionysis kind of figure, just

1373
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 2>off the bat. I mean, even Jim Morrison was like,

1374
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just copied Elvis because he had that.

1375
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I hate to say that it quality that cliche, but

1376
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.800
<v Speaker 2>if you can say, if there's an inquality, he had

1377
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:50.199
<v Speaker 2>it it was beyond this world.

1378
01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:57.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't know I was going to say something, but

1379
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 8>I just wanted to ask you too, because there was

1380
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 8>something I read. I can't remember where it was now

1381
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:15.640
<v Speaker 8>about him, but it was like he like the introverted thing,

1382
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 8>like he didn't want to like be around people, and

1383
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 8>like he would like lock himself in his room and stuff.

1384
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.520
<v Speaker 8>Like he almost like suffered from depression and stuff like

1385
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:27.199
<v Speaker 8>that too.

1386
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he struggled again. Those demons got him at the end.

1387
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.760
<v Speaker 2>He just couldn't shake off the death of his mother,

1388
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Jesse's divorced from Priscilla. The addictions, I mean, it really

1389
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:42.239
<v Speaker 2>got to him. But he loved being alone. One of

1390
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>his favored rituals he could sit alone in his room

1391
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:50.239
<v Speaker 2>with a candle, and he could meditate himself back in

1392
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the womb, and he can go even deeper into creation.

1393
01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:56.439
<v Speaker 2>So he had all these exercises, and I mean they

1394
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.039
<v Speaker 2>say on his fortieth birthday, his girlfriend said he just

1395
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:02.640
<v Speaker 2>sat alone in his room. He just didn't feel like celebrating.

1396
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the big themes of the book

1397
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:09.359
<v Speaker 2>is that of Paul le. I get this from Paul

1398
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Levy his books on Watiko is the wounded healer. You

1399
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>find in many cultures around the world, all over the globe.

1400
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 2>The shaman is somebody who's been broken, they've had a

1401
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:27.479
<v Speaker 2>near death experience, they've had trauma, they're diseased, and this

1402
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 2>opens the channels of communication and this person becomes the

1403
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>shaman and they can heal you, not despite their wounds

1404
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and their trauma, but because of it. And they feel

1405
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:42.439
<v Speaker 2>in their heads that if I heal my trauma, I

1406
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.760
<v Speaker 2>will lose my powers and I can't serve the tribe,

1407
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I can't be the person who heals you. And it's

1408
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.439
<v Speaker 2>very tragic. And you see that. I mean, we see

1409
01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:55.119
<v Speaker 2>that with rock stars all the time. They're tragedy, they're wounds.

1410
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 2>We know they're going to die and implode, but they

1411
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:00.880
<v Speaker 2>keep healing us and giving us good and using and

1412
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the wounded healer trope. And in fact, as I

1413
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:09.039
<v Speaker 2>show in my book, in certain cultures, the shaman always

1414
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>ends up as a drug addict, broken down, fat old guy,

1415
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 2>because not only are you the wounded healer, but you're

1416
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>carrying these energies, these powers. You're going to the spirit

1417
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:23.720
<v Speaker 2>world there you bingo exactly, and it just destroys you.

1418
01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:26.479
<v Speaker 2>And the tribe's like, well, that's your job, you know,

1419
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.279
<v Speaker 2>you need a shaman. And the shaman's like, yeah, this

1420
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:32.319
<v Speaker 2>is what I signed up where I'm going to die young.

1421
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:37.680
<v Speaker 2>But what you know, it's a party. It just happened.

1422
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And I say, Elvis was our shaman. He was the

1423
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:43.159
<v Speaker 2>one that had to pay the price to heal us.

1424
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know you had mentioned real real quick. I

1425
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of got lost on the thought when you mentioned it.

1426
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Did you say something about him having an experience like

1427
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:59.039
<v Speaker 4>with the wound and meditating with a candle. Yeah, I've

1428
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:02.000
<v Speaker 4>actually mentioned that experienced myself on the show a few times.

1429
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1430
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that one of my experiences was just meditating across

1431
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.760
<v Speaker 4>from my candle and like, yeah to where I was

1432
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 4>like I went somewhere else and when I wherever, whenever

1433
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 4>I came out of my meditation, I was like, Yo,

1434
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 4>that was like I honestly thought I had that experience.

1435
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.039
<v Speaker 4>It was really fucking weird. Actually, yeah, so when you

1436
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:22.920
<v Speaker 4>just said that now, I was like, oh, okay, I

1437
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 4>was like, I guess I'm not the only.

1438
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Person saying that ship how too scared to try it?

1439
01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:32.840
<v Speaker 4>It's very weird. I'm I'm sure I've probably mentioned it

1440
01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:34.800
<v Speaker 4>on somebody's show here actually.

1441
01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Talk to them.

1442
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think I've maybe mentioned Well, that's what

1443
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:43.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean. I remember having a certain visual and just

1444
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:45.119
<v Speaker 4>like the way I felt, and afterwards, I was like,

1445
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 4>the only thing that makes sense is that that was

1446
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.239
<v Speaker 4>like me and the womb. It was just really weird.

1447
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Or it's like I had this knowing that that's what

1448
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.199
<v Speaker 4>it was when I came out of the meditation.

1449
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Elvis was upseir. He was obsessed with birth and death.

1450
01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean he he used to go to Morgues for

1451
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:06.640
<v Speaker 2>fun and yeah, he went with Priscilla all the time.

1452
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:08.039
<v Speaker 9>They watch on a date.

1453
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 5>Let's yeah, he's doing somethwhere there.

1454
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.039
<v Speaker 8>He's a guy that one.

1455
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:19.479
<v Speaker 2>He gets freaked here. He one time they that's.

1456
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:21.199
<v Speaker 8>Tell me he's a necrophile.

1457
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>No, no, he'saw there was a dead baby, and Priscilla

1458
01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 2>starts crying. So they both sit there, just praying forever

1459
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:31.840
<v Speaker 2>for this child's soul to go there. And he used

1460
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>to have he would have He loved watching dead people

1461
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>be embalmed, including friends, and he would just sit there

1462
01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and but but that's that's the job of the shaman.

1463
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.319
<v Speaker 2>They have to know death and burial. He used to

1464
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>love hanging around at cemetery. He's a watching horror movies.

1465
01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Just that's what he did for fun. In fact, guess

1466
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:56.199
<v Speaker 2>what after the the Tate Lebianca murder murders. Guess who

1467
01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>showed up at the clo house a few days later. Elvis. Yes, yes, he.

1468
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.680
<v Speaker 8>Dude, I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

1469
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what he did. I mean, a shaman has

1470
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>to be around the dead and around the Yeah.

1471
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>But I was gonna say, make a comparison from that

1472
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:22.560
<v Speaker 3>time period. I think even generations past his death has

1473
01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:26.279
<v Speaker 3>been copy have many people have been copying him, of course,

1474
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 3>but at that time period, imagine how many people were

1475
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.239
<v Speaker 3>copying him more attempting to even But I was just

1476
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>looking at Jim Jones, and he I think trying to

1477
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:43.239
<v Speaker 3>use that whole persona to in of course a much

1478
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:44.600
<v Speaker 3>darker way.

1479
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.039
<v Speaker 8>Definitely the haircut.

1480
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:50.720
<v Speaker 5>I can't help but see that, Yeah for sure.

1481
01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:53.760
<v Speaker 8>I mean he's definitely got the Elvis look going on.

1482
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:58.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, I got to ask you something, and please

1483
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:01.880
<v Speaker 8>don't get offended or kick me off the video chat,

1484
01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:04.079
<v Speaker 8>because I just gotta ask you.

1485
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:11.680
<v Speaker 5>All right, there are rumors, all right, rumors.

1486
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.119
<v Speaker 8>I don't know. I wasn't there that Elvis was kind

1487
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:18.880
<v Speaker 8>of you know, he was in the Little Boys and stuff.

1488
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:21.720
<v Speaker 8>Do you think that there's any credibility to that?

1489
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:25.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so, I don't. As far as

1490
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I looked, I don't see it. Again, I try to

1491
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>go to a reliable sort. There's so much hay to

1492
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>use the word misinformation because I sound like a politician,

1493
01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:37.840
<v Speaker 2>but there's so much gossipy, weird stuff, and so far

1494
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't see anything that does that. I mean, it's

1495
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>a very it's very known that he used to get

1496
01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:46.479
<v Speaker 2>hit on by men, and he like, hey man, you

1497
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>know it's all cool. I'm not my bag. You know

1498
01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:49.840
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff.

1499
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.239
<v Speaker 8>So well, I have to ask, just because the people

1500
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:56.399
<v Speaker 8>who listen to my show are gonna definitely wonder why

1501
01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:59.680
<v Speaker 8>I didn't, because that's a thing. That's the thing. People

1502
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:02.840
<v Speaker 8>will people know about that rumor, and they're like, dude,

1503
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:06.920
<v Speaker 8>Elvis was into like he wasn't having sex with his wife,

1504
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.199
<v Speaker 8>and he was probably in the Little Boys and he

1505
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.279
<v Speaker 8>had like this weird femininity thing going on. So people,

1506
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.439
<v Speaker 8>you know, speculated, yeah, the old.

1507
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:20.319
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't see that sugge anywhere. And he was

1508
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>never I mean, if you're talking about a person who

1509
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't alone, you're talking about a person whose own bodyguards

1510
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to betrayed him and wrote all all tell tale all

1511
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:32.199
<v Speaker 2>books because they wanted to bring him down. Nothing like

1512
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>that has ever come up. But he was friends. He

1513
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:41.560
<v Speaker 2>was friends with bisexual guy who was friends with James Dean,

1514
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.199
<v Speaker 2>and they became very close. And when his mother died,

1515
01:26:45.239 --> 01:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>this guy actually they moved a bed in his room

1516
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to watch over Elvis and all that. That's the closest.

1517
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>There's also a time in the army where he was

1518
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>very upset and he heard about this thing called aroma therapy,

1519
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and again back then it was like oh, but he

1520
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>he flew this guy in from Australia, somewhere and the

1521
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:07.159
<v Speaker 2>guy's doing the aroma therapy and the guy grabs Elvis

1522
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>by the but Elvis freaked out kicked him out, and

1523
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>then the guy tried to blackmail him and the army

1524
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>got involved, you know, but he was cleared after a

1525
01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>long investigation. So that's about as yeah, as far as

1526
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I know, that's about as exciting as it gets. Very

1527
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:32.479
<v Speaker 2>friends with Liberaci, but it was very platonic. Liberaci also

1528
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>lost his twin, so Liberaci gave him ideas like this

1529
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:38.840
<v Speaker 2>is how you cope with the pain. And Liberaci in

1530
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the fifties like, dude, you gotta wear jumpsuits. It's the

1531
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>next big thing. And Elvis is like, nah it, I'll

1532
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>never be in fashion.

1533
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know, well, and with the esoteric, when you're

1534
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>when they're studying and and trying to they stop that

1535
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>because they're trying to keep their power.

1536
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.439
<v Speaker 5>So it's like a whole thing with you know, the

1537
01:27:57.479 --> 01:27:59.239
<v Speaker 5>whole esoteric side of the studies.

1538
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:01.760
<v Speaker 8>So they sense being like asexual.

1539
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Well was very sexual. He was very sexual. He was

1540
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:10.319
<v Speaker 2>very hermes very but he again I show him he's

1541
01:28:10.479 --> 01:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>very much like the archetype of the Andragine because he

1542
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>had his feminine and masculine powers. That's why he he

1543
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.479
<v Speaker 2>was into style. He understood women. H he was what

1544
01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:26.840
<v Speaker 2>which we used to call them metrosexuals and nygen x.

1545
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:32.840
<v Speaker 5>He was like, I don't mean he was asexual in general.

1546
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean if he went through bouts of asexualism, it

1547
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.239
<v Speaker 1>was probably because he was studying and trying to be

1548
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in the purification process.

1549
01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:40.159
<v Speaker 11>That's all.

1550
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, you're one hundred percent right. When he was

1551
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>really into spirituality, he would disengage from relationships. In fact,

1552
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it used to piss women off because women would be like,

1553
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have this notch on my bedpost called

1554
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Elvis Presley. Then get to his room, he's like, can

1555
01:28:55.920 --> 01:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>we read a book? Let's me like, no, happened a lot.

1556
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:05.640
<v Speaker 8>Hey, I'm I'm gonna get with Elvis. And he's like, yeah,

1557
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.840
<v Speaker 8>let's meet at the morgue and do some weird like yeah,

1558
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 8>you know how to turn a girl on.

1559
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.399
<v Speaker 9>Or stuff that chart.

1560
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:21.000
<v Speaker 10>Graham was gonna ask you when we're talking what we

1561
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:24.760
<v Speaker 10>were talking the occult geographies of Memphis. I was gonna

1562
01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:28.279
<v Speaker 10>ask you, Elvis have any infinities for for the ancient

1563
01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:32.520
<v Speaker 10>mound sites of America, Memphis Deep in Mound Territory, and

1564
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:34.960
<v Speaker 10>so is his child is Mississippi.

1565
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:36.239
<v Speaker 2>He grew up on the Mound.

1566
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 1>He's my tenth cousin, and so I am Mormon heritage.

1567
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you there's the Mormon up in that boy.

1568
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:52.560
<v Speaker 13>Like I don't know, mountain they got that mountain low,

1569
01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:55.319
<v Speaker 13>not those I know.

1570
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:00.439
<v Speaker 2>As far as I know, not a as far as

1571
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I know. I mean again, if he had to go anywhere,

1572
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it had to be in the middle of the night.

1573
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>If he went anywhere, he'd have to have a big entourage.

1574
01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So there was a lot of things Elvis just could

1575
01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>not see. He couldn't go to. Even in the fifties,

1576
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he had to stop going to church.

1577
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:23.079
<v Speaker 5>He had because lay lines where he build his place.

1578
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.159
<v Speaker 8>And dude, did you know he Elvis was born on

1579
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:30.039
<v Speaker 8>the thirty third parallel. You know all that weirdness about

1580
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:32.760
<v Speaker 8>like people who are born on the thirty third parallel.

1581
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:35.319
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know about that, Heidi, but like I know,

1582
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:37.600
<v Speaker 8>he was born on like a weird child.

1583
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Steven Snyder, I did a show with him and

1584
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:45.159
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he talked, But that's kind of his thing,

1585
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 2>mountains and parallels, and it's not my my forte.

1586
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:52.000
<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, I've had a number of mound the conversations

1587
01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:54.760
<v Speaker 10>with Recklose. He's very, very knowledgeable in the subjects.

1588
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>And he goes to these places. He doesn't just ride away,

1589
01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and he travels and he feels the energy and he

1590
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>digs around. So uh yeah, we've had a couple of

1591
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>show on Elvis to one on that and one, of

1592
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>course we had to have a long one to dispel

1593
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:13.439
<v Speaker 2>the whole you know, was he was he a servant

1594
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:16.319
<v Speaker 2>of the Jews, which, of course there's lots of literature like,

1595
01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>so we have to spend an hour of dispelling that one.

1596
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:24.760
<v Speaker 8>What does that even mean exactly?

1597
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with that one. So that's an interesting

1598
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting a servant of the Jews?

1599
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:30.279
<v Speaker 11>Like what.

1600
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Right?

1601
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1602
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:37.880
<v Speaker 8>I was like, what is he a Hebrew slave or

1603
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:38.600
<v Speaker 8>something like?

1604
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:43.239
<v Speaker 2>What was supposed to that he was, you know, created

1605
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>by Jewish bankers to.

1606
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's the Jesuits.

1607
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.399
<v Speaker 2>If not, don't worry, Yeah it's somebody. Yeah, but there's

1608
01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:58.279
<v Speaker 2>books written about it on papers really, but they don't

1609
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>hold up to you know, no, no, you know, he

1610
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>had Jewish blood, He had very close Jewish friends. He

1611
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>became friends as a kid with an Orthodox rabbi. But

1612
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Elvis was, you know, he was his own person, owned destiny,

1613
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1614
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Not Roy kne I hope.

1615
01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:18.800
<v Speaker 8>That wasn't a friend.

1616
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>That was his friend.

1617
01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:23.199
<v Speaker 8>Shut up around.

1618
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:24.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm being an ass.

1619
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:26.239
<v Speaker 8>I thought, oh my god, I was going to save

1620
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:28.000
<v Speaker 8>those two are friends. I'm getting out of this.

1621
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:35.359
<v Speaker 9>Elvis's manager. Elvis's manager, from what I understand, he had

1622
01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 9>intelligence links, he had all these He didn't have any idea.

1623
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:42.880
<v Speaker 9>That was one of the reasons they couldn't go overseas.

1624
01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:45.319
<v Speaker 9>It was kind of a mystery as to who this

1625
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:46.239
<v Speaker 9>guy really was.

1626
01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, Colonel Parker, Yes, yes, that was his manager, and yeah,

1627
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.359
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't an illegal immigrant.

1628
01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:58.359
<v Speaker 8>And Tom Hanks.

1629
01:32:59.000 --> 01:32:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask if that.

1630
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Job by Hanks, but yeah, that was him.

1631
01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:08.000
<v Speaker 8>So, so what did you think of that movie?

1632
01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:08.720
<v Speaker 13>Did you like it?

1633
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.479
<v Speaker 8>Do you think it was like historically accurate?

1634
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Some things aren't, some things are. You know, it briefly

1635
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:22.239
<v Speaker 2>talks about Captain Marvel and Elvis and going to black churches,

1636
01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>but doesn't touch on as occultism. You have to watch

1637
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Sophia Coppola's movie Priscilla that spends about ten minutes Elvis

1638
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>driving everybody crazy with his ideas and she being furious

1639
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>at him and all that. But yeah, Parker, he was

1640
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:41.439
<v Speaker 2>a carnival guy. He was He wasn't even a real colonel,

1641
01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and somehow he latched onto Elvis and I talked to

1642
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the book that was almost faded, because you know, you've

1643
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>got an alchemy, you've got hermes, that power, that creative

1644
01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>knotty power. But then you've got Saturn numbers and boundaries

1645
01:33:57.640 --> 01:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and all that, and they were perfect or even in

1646
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Steiner with Araman and Lucifer got Lucifer the creative power,

1647
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>and then you've got Araman the numbers of boundaries. When

1648
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you can get those together in the balance, anything's possible,

1649
01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>just like the androgine. If we can get your male

1650
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 2>and female energies right as the ancient said, you are godlike.

1651
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>So those two work together. And that's the story. That's

1652
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>one of the theories that Elvis never toured because Parker

1653
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>would have have he would have gotten uh yeah, he

1654
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 2>would have gotten thrown in an El Salvador in prison.

1655
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:35.039
<v Speaker 2>No well back then, who knows what it would have been.

1656
01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>He would have been kicked out. But the problem too

1657
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>is I don't know about that because he did go

1658
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to Canada in the fifties to tour. And remember Elvis

1659
01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>was in the army for two years, and Parker had

1660
01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>no problem staying in the United States, you know, crunching numbers,

1661
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>making deals. So I don't think. I don't know if

1662
01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:56.079
<v Speaker 2>you would have had a problem with Elvis touring, but

1663
01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess you would have had to explain to Elvis,

1664
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.479
<v Speaker 2>because that's a secret even Elvis never found out about.

1665
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's something happened in the late seventies when

1666
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>people finally discovered who Parker was. And it's still a

1667
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>mystery what his background was. Possibly Austrian, No, he was Dutch, yeah, okay,

1668
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was somewhere over there. Yeah, yeah, So I

1669
01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:23.479
<v Speaker 2>guess Austin Powers would have been furious, right, evil Dutch.

1670
01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:26.119
<v Speaker 2>We see.

1671
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:31.239
<v Speaker 8>Maybe it was his handler, was the handler Power, Yeah, yeah,

1672
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:32.600
<v Speaker 8>but he.

1673
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Was something else. I mean, it's it is true. This guy,

1674
01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Elvis made four billion dollars from nineteen fifty

1675
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:44.119
<v Speaker 2>five to nineteen think about that inflation. I mean, Taylor

1676
01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Swift and he did. He that's money they couldn't make.

1677
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:51.439
<v Speaker 2>He probably made that's like twenty billion dollars today. And Elvis,

1678
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of course just blew it, blew it, blew it. He

1679
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>never invested, never, he just Parker made twenty percent of that,

1680
01:35:58.039 --> 01:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and Parker died penniless because he was such a gambling freak.

1681
01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean both, It's like they both had they both

1682
01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>just fell apart at the end.

1683
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.680
<v Speaker 7>Perhaps a good magical lesson for why you should not

1684
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:16.399
<v Speaker 7>pursue that path of hod after forty.

1685
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:21.079
<v Speaker 6>A little magic joke.

1686
01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:27.159
<v Speaker 8>Are you saying that Elvis was a washed up loser?

1687
01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:29.039
<v Speaker 11>No?

1688
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:31.479
<v Speaker 6>But it really, Uh, this is something I've been thinking

1689
01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:32.399
<v Speaker 6>about a lot, Juliet.

1690
01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Is like magic's really about archetypes, like a large part,

1691
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.399
<v Speaker 7>Like even look at above you right now, the way

1692
01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:40.920
<v Speaker 7>Nick Cat even has it set up. It's like I'm

1693
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:45.399
<v Speaker 7>between two polarities. So it's a lot about like how

1694
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.359
<v Speaker 7>we arranged you mean, you know this, how we arrange

1695
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:52.079
<v Speaker 7>universe around us. So, but your most powerful tools, the

1696
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.359
<v Speaker 7>way you live your life, like the ritual that you embody.

1697
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.880
<v Speaker 7>So right, So if Elvis is passing the point of

1698
01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:04.880
<v Speaker 7>being a prince archetype, then he should. The idea is

1699
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 7>that you would gracefully transition into one of the other

1700
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:13.239
<v Speaker 7>male archetypes on the tree. But if you're very comfortable

1701
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:16.039
<v Speaker 7>in the suffer, and this often happens to male magicians.

1702
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:19.720
<v Speaker 7>They get very comfortable in the because we're denser than women.

1703
01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:22.039
<v Speaker 7>It's a it's not a slight against men. It's just

1704
01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:25.560
<v Speaker 7>like a a kind of it's a Buddhist joke, but

1705
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:29.159
<v Speaker 7>it's it's also true in a way because women can

1706
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:32.319
<v Speaker 7>get pregnant, so they have negative space, right, so they're

1707
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 7>considered less sense, that's really the idea.

1708
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:36.239
<v Speaker 6>So a man should.

1709
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:38.560
<v Speaker 7>Transition, but it's harder for us. So if we've played

1710
01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.720
<v Speaker 7>the prince our whole life, we're always going to draw

1711
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.199
<v Speaker 7>from that saffra. That's kind of my thinking. I don't know,

1712
01:37:44.279 --> 01:37:46.319
<v Speaker 7>maybe that's maybe mek Or and Miguel will crackt me,

1713
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:52.159
<v Speaker 7>but that's sort of how I think of it. Sorry, Nick, No,

1714
01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:54.439
<v Speaker 7>I just want to say that that also explains like

1715
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:59.800
<v Speaker 7>what Heidi said about him, like always needing, always searching out,

1716
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:02.159
<v Speaker 7>and even the rumor that you brought up, it would

1717
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:05.319
<v Speaker 7>make sense that because the polarity that he would need

1718
01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.479
<v Speaker 7>to balance him out would be like a daughter archetype.

1719
01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:12.680
<v Speaker 7>That doesn't mean someone too young, but maybe by our

1720
01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.680
<v Speaker 7>conventions in twenty twenty five, it would be like a

1721
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 7>southern like what he was thinking in like the sixties

1722
01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:21.760
<v Speaker 7>in the South is obviously very different than where we're thinking.

1723
01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.840
<v Speaker 7>So maybe sixteen he would like a younger girl, like

1724
01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.479
<v Speaker 7>some slightly androgynist perhaps, or like a Lisa Marie who's,

1725
01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:35.600
<v Speaker 7>as we discussed, very she has a Babylon energy. His

1726
01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:41.439
<v Speaker 7>daughter does well, the wife did when they thought together,

1727
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:42.039
<v Speaker 7>she has that.

1728
01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>You brought it up.

1729
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.479
<v Speaker 7>There was such a great point we all agreed. The

1730
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:49.039
<v Speaker 7>Tuesday Weld's like, that's the she's the kind of the

1731
01:38:50.039 --> 01:38:51.159
<v Speaker 7>dark princess to.

1732
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:55.840
<v Speaker 6>Tuesday Weld like a queen of the stars. You could say.

1733
01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:00.720
<v Speaker 2>The one you want to watch is his granddaughter Riley Key.

1734
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1735
01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys have watched the movie

1736
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Under the Silver Lake, probably one of the most esoteric

1737
01:39:07.279 --> 01:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>movies I've seen. But she's she's a she's a very

1738
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:15.199
<v Speaker 2>accomplished actress and very powerful.

1739
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:16.920
<v Speaker 8>Does she sing or anything?

1740
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. No, she's mostly an actress. I

1741
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:23.079
<v Speaker 2>mean she's been I think she was. Was she in

1742
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Once upon a time in Hollywood? I think she was

1743
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:26.279
<v Speaker 2>in it brief? Well?

1744
01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:32.840
<v Speaker 8>Really, Oh, that's interesting because that's about like the Manson stuff.

1745
01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:39.880
<v Speaker 8>And apparently Elvis uh made himself known around those parts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1746
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:45.119
<v Speaker 8>I mean I I've always wondered about her just because

1747
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:49.600
<v Speaker 8>of the Michael Jackson stuff and uh yeah, I mean,

1748
01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 8>was it her son that killed himself or it was

1749
01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:55.479
<v Speaker 8>her son that killed her brother?

1750
01:39:55.720 --> 01:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Y in the curse.

1751
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Was saying, then again, we've got one without the other,

1752
01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:04.720
<v Speaker 1>right back to the beginning.

1753
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:05.920
<v Speaker 5>Right exactly.

1754
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.960
<v Speaker 8>Maybe they're breaking generational curses. Maybe he was the last

1755
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:10.520
<v Speaker 8>one and.

1756
01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Living through it.

1757
01:40:14.680 --> 01:40:17.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because then he was the one that carried it on.

1758
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:19.479
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know.

1759
01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It seems like if she's in esoteric films and all

1760
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>these different things, it just depends on what past she's on.

1761
01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:26.720
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know.

1762
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:31.960
<v Speaker 4>You do you know if Friley is into scientology? I

1763
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:32.720
<v Speaker 4>am not sure.

1764
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I mean, I know Priscilla and

1765
01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Marie I think left before it was they did

1766
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>get out. I'm not sure. I hope once the books

1767
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:45.039
<v Speaker 2>starts selling and then makes the rounds, I want, I

1768
01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.079
<v Speaker 2>do want to reach out to her and say, hey,

1769
01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>what do you think?

1770
01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:50.840
<v Speaker 4>The reason I asked is something I actually learned from JJ,

1771
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.680
<v Speaker 4>and I have noticed it myself now that she did

1772
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:56.640
<v Speaker 4>a movie with Tofa Grace and I know he was

1773
01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:58.680
<v Speaker 4>in that seventies show and that was like pretty much

1774
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:01.720
<v Speaker 4>like all scientology people. And I've noticed that a lot

1775
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:04.600
<v Speaker 4>of silent scientology people tend to do movies with other

1776
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Scientology people Under Under the Silver Under the Silver Lake.

1777
01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:12.479
<v Speaker 4>She was to for Grace was in that with her.

1778
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:14.760
<v Speaker 4>So when I saw to for Grace, I thought of

1779
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Scientology and I knew we were talking about Scientology. So

1780
01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 4>that's why I just asked, because I just looked up

1781
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:20.680
<v Speaker 4>the movie now because I was like, I never heard of.

1782
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:22.079
<v Speaker 5>That, says.

1783
01:41:22.119 --> 01:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>She quit Scientology as of twenty twenty three and is

1784
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>now just spiritually not affiliated with anyone, but she has

1785
01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>some interesting tattoos about her.

1786
01:41:31.239 --> 01:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Brother independent Scientology, make sure of all of them. Yeah,

1787
01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>look at the movies. She was in Mad Max, she

1788
01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:44.479
<v Speaker 2>was you guys got to watch Under the Sola.

1789
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, check that out.

1790
01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch Sunset. I don't know she played Sasquatch or he

1791
01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:54.279
<v Speaker 2>was in that movie. It was an Amazon where it's

1792
01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.279
<v Speaker 2>like a rip off of Fleetwood mag I forget what's

1793
01:41:57.319 --> 01:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the name of it. But yeah, she's been in a

1794
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:01.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of movies. I'm just looking over here.

1795
01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh, was there anything else that anybody wanted to ask

1796
01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:08.760
<v Speaker 4>before we wrap it up?

1797
01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:11.720
<v Speaker 5>Interesting?

1798
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:14.199
<v Speaker 6>Oh sorry, hide me instructure.

1799
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:17.880
<v Speaker 7>I'll just say I do think that the badge thing

1800
01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:21.880
<v Speaker 7>was interesting from a magical perspective. You could consider like

1801
01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:25.279
<v Speaker 7>badges to have a kind of coubalistic or Masonic, which

1802
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:28.960
<v Speaker 7>is obviously also kabbala, just in a different, slightly different

1803
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:32.159
<v Speaker 7>maybe context. But yeah, so if you had the collection

1804
01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:34.800
<v Speaker 7>of badges, you could also like that the collection of

1805
01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:37.359
<v Speaker 7>degrees like matt order degrees.

1806
01:42:39.439 --> 01:42:40.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1807
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:47.279
<v Speaker 9>Police widow sons too, Yeah, I would agree.

1808
01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:50.079
<v Speaker 5>There's no help for the widows JJ.

1809
01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Sorry that is that another moment thing too?

1810
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's Mormon.

1811
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she said us the last words of Joseph's Steah,

1812
01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:12.479
<v Speaker 1>it really was allegedly really wait what was it?

1813
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:14.159
<v Speaker 8>What was his last words?

1814
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:16.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a Masonic cry for help? It's is there no

1815
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>help for the widow's son? And he was a Mason.

1816
01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:22.079
<v Speaker 1>But also he was screwing everybody's wife, so they were kind.

1817
01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:22.319
<v Speaker 13>Of uh.

1818
01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:27.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but apparently so was Elvis. Right, he was screwing

1819
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:33.479
<v Speaker 8>everybody's wife and more of your times.

1820
01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:35.760
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting.

1821
01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I wonder I have I have a question. I wonder,

1822
01:43:42.079 --> 01:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>uh you mentioned the non touch healing.

1823
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:46.039
<v Speaker 2>That again.

1824
01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Now, actually I want I bet all of us have

1825
01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>experienced reiki at least here, right, that's a common non

1826
01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:58.079
<v Speaker 3>touch healing practice. I wonder what, what is the one

1827
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>of the more striking experiences of maybe the non touch

1828
01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>healing or just in general of his telepathic powers were

1829
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:10.319
<v Speaker 3>one of those stories that were really striking.

1830
01:44:11.079 --> 01:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>God, there's so many, yeah, I mean, he was able

1831
01:44:13.319 --> 01:44:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to manipulate weather, he could make objects move again, astral travel,

1832
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:22.720
<v Speaker 2>stories of him creating force fields. God, there's so many.

1833
01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>But the healing was very important to him because of

1834
01:44:25.199 --> 01:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>where he came from. So he was just a healing freak,

1835
01:44:29.079 --> 01:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and it was mostly The blue light is very important

1836
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>throughout the book. When Elvis was born, his father went

1837
01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:38.560
<v Speaker 2>outside to have a cigarette and this blue alien light

1838
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:42.479
<v Speaker 2>appeared over the house and froze all sound and the

1839
01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>wind stopped and Vernon, his father freaked out he was

1840
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>having a cigarette, ran in while Gladys was it was

1841
01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:52.880
<v Speaker 2>in labor. So the blue light followed. And you see

1842
01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that all through Elvis's life, you know, you see blue

1843
01:44:56.039 --> 01:44:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and so many of his songs, his biggest hits were

1844
01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>like Blue Hawa in Gi Blues, The day he died,

1845
01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>he was wearing blue pajamas. Oh this blue light. I

1846
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>show him the book as blue is everywhere. When he healed,

1847
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 2>he would always imagine a blue light. And I've done

1848
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>shows with like James True on the blue Light. You know,

1849
01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>humans only discovered the blue light a few thousand years ago,

1850
01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and people with blue eyes are freaks. We only appeared

1851
01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:32.079
<v Speaker 2>later in history because of some catassium. Yeah yeah, green too, Yeah,

1852
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to put green too, but blue was important.

1853
01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>So he was a healing beast. I mean, Priscilla says

1854
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:41.840
<v Speaker 2>he could heal her headaches at a touch. He could

1855
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:46.720
<v Speaker 2>heal people's hurt. Backs did, and then sometimes they were

1856
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>just incredible. Like one time they were in Colorado snowboarding

1857
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:54.479
<v Speaker 2>and they're having fun and one a person is an

1858
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:58.119
<v Speaker 2>entourage hits a pole, breaks his leg and they're all

1859
01:45:58.159 --> 01:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>freaking out. We got to take him to the hospital.

1860
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, pushes him back, like I don't have

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01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>time for this, puts his hands on his legs and

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01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>heals his broken leg. There was another time where he's

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01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>driving around in his limo and Memphis and he sees

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01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:16.079
<v Speaker 2>a bus over the sidewalk and the drivers outside like

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01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>grabbing his chest having a heart attack, and Elvis goes

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01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:21.720
<v Speaker 2>up to him, puts his hands, You're gonna be all right,

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01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and he does, you know again the blue light healing

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01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and heals him from his heart attack. He could heal

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01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>a friend of his, this child had a really bad fever. Elvis,

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01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>like Russis, leaves his house, goes to his friend's house

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01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and puts his hand on the kid and the fever breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just the instances are baffling, and they're

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01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and they're incredible. And again, there were always

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01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>eye witnesses there. There was you know, two or three

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01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:54.039
<v Speaker 2>people present when Elvis was doing his power. But he

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01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:58.119
<v Speaker 2>couldn't heal himself. Again, he just couldn't. He did use

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01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>certain technique, like once he had a sore throat and

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01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>he used some theosophical Alice Bailey's spell and he was

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01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:07.680
<v Speaker 2>able to heal his throat and this and that. But

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01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, yeah, he did it for other people.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the kind of guy you want to have around geez.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sure.

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01:47:17.680 --> 01:47:20.000
<v Speaker 5>They're usually a hot mess though, I'm just saying.

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01:47:22.319 --> 01:47:26.520
<v Speaker 2>He cured a hangover. So after Saturday Night Wonders.

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01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:31.479
<v Speaker 8>Terrific guy, I'm on board not.

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<v Speaker 4>To get into it too much because we all wrapping

1887
01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:35.720
<v Speaker 4>it up, but I would even think we go. Haven't

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01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you even noticed sometimes some sort of blue light experience

1889
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.119
<v Speaker 4>even amongst occultist stories.

1890
01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Very predominant.

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01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you will hear about that every once in a while.

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01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and UFO encounters. Yeah, mine is always on the ship.

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01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Whitley streamer talks about when the visitors come, a blue

1894
01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>light would appear, so he ends, I'm doing the research,

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01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, this blue thing is all

1896
01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>over the place. And occultism, yourthology, mysticism, Krishna was blue.

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01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>You just see it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something interesting with that. But uh, thank you well

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01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:15.119
<v Speaker 4>again for coming on. That was really interesting talk. That

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01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.840
<v Speaker 4>was amazing, Miguel. I appreciate it real quick, Miguel. Let

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01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:21.760
<v Speaker 4>everybody know where they can find your stuff and whatever

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01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:22.600
<v Speaker 4>you want to plug.

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<v Speaker 2>Please sure, sure, yeah, and thanks for great questions. Guys,

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01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you did a great job. I really appreciate it. Good

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01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>convo right now. I would send people to just Miguel

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01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Connor dot com my name because you go to the

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01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>website and it's like two roads. One is the am

1908
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>bite my gnostics stuff the other one is my substack,

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01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Elvis Books all that. So send people to Miguel Connor

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01:48:49.319 --> 01:48:52.039
<v Speaker 2>dot com and decide where you want to go and

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01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:56.039
<v Speaker 2>subscribe to my substack, order the book online, or look

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01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:59.039
<v Speaker 2>at all my social media. So that's the place to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, my man. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody else I'll you know, you can check their stuff out.

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<v Speaker 4>Their links are in the bottom. Yeah. That is the

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<v Speaker 4>end of another occult Rejects and until the next one,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody be well.

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<v Speaker 11>We called it a proud I can't walk out be

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01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:34.680
<v Speaker 11>called down too much. Pay Why can't you see.

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01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>What to do with me?

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01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:42.560
<v Speaker 11>When you don't.

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<v Speaker 14>Believe the world I say, we can't go on together.

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<v Speaker 4>We're suspicious.

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<v Speaker 11>We can't be You got dreams of suspicious bad