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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Gabrielle with you on a Friday edition of our program,

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<v Speaker 2>heading into a big weekend already underway. The baseball Wildcats

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<v Speaker 2>are playing down at Belmont, weather permitting, so keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on that. We pre record, so keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on that. And of course you came men on the

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<v Speaker 2>road tomorrow at Alabama. Tough, tough assignment. Alabama came up

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<v Speaker 2>here and beat the Wildcats. Different looking Kentucky team. You

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<v Speaker 2>know about the problems with the injuries, but Kentucky playing better.

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<v Speaker 2>The bigs are playing better, Andrew Carr is healthier, the

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<v Speaker 2>freshmen have played better. That is going to be one

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<v Speaker 2>tough challenge down there. That is a difficult place to

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<v Speaker 2>play lately. Used to be Alabama for basketball, but now

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<v Speaker 2>when Natos gets down there and introduces an exciting brand

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<v Speaker 2>to play defense three pointers of Final four caliber team

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<v Speaker 2>last year, fans show out and show up. And back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day it was like a lot of road

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<v Speaker 2>games for Kentucky. There'd be almost as much blue in

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<v Speaker 2>the stands in Tuscaloosa as there was red or.

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<v Speaker 1>Crimson, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it is a brutally tough place to play,

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<v Speaker 2>but not a game the Wildcats cannot win. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to be at their best and we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>it for you right here on six thirty WLAP the

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<v Speaker 2>UK women with Senior Day coming up Sunday against LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim maulke yep, she knows how to win championships. What

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<v Speaker 1>does she have?

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<v Speaker 2>Four and the Wildcats are in the running for the

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<v Speaker 2>better slid. I'm not gonna win the SEC, but they

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<v Speaker 2>want the best slot. Obviously they can get in the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC tournament, So this one's big. They're all big down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch, but you're talking LSU Tennessee, South.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina for Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's big that the Wildcats came back last night

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<v Speaker 2>and beat Missouri. Watching that game listening to Darren, it

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<v Speaker 2>was back and forth for much of the game, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Wildcats, who were down at the half, win at

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<v Speaker 2>seventy three sixty five. Clara strack At a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 2>game bounce back after a subpar performance against Texas where

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<v Speaker 2>she got in foul trouble, but she gets twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>and twelve. She played really, really well, so did Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>Amore of course, as usual, nineteen points five assists, only

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<v Speaker 2>two turnovers. George Amore played all forty minutes and by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, hit two really clutch free throws down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>And imagine what kind of shape she's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>in to have her legs under her well enough to

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<v Speaker 2>snag those free throws when they mattered the most. Still

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<v Speaker 2>a problem for Kentucky. Rebounding Strack had twelve, team had

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. She had almost half Kentucky's rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Key only had five rebounds. She got in some

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<v Speaker 2>foul trouble, only played twenty eight and a half minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is usually just wicked tough on the boards,

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<v Speaker 2>but foul problems hurt her. She had six turnovers. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a great game of forteany j didn't have thirteen points,

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<v Speaker 2>But they're going to have to be better down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>On the boards, we're out rebound of thirty nine to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. Kentucky got only five offensive rebounds, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not because the Wildcats were hitting everything, although it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like for a while there they were. They hit fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four point five percent in the second quarter, and Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>when it took command of the game in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>hit seventy to almost seventy eight percent. Took nine shots,

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<v Speaker 2>hit seven of them, including two out of three from distance.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the game, Kentucky hit fifty three percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, though you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to do a better job on the boards. That's

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<v Speaker 2>something Kenny Brooks talked about after the game when for

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<v Speaker 2>one thing he talked about, and this has come up before,

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<v Speaker 2>physicality of his team. Kentucky not the most physical team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been a knock on his ball club, but he

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<v Speaker 2>has seen progress.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing enough to win back games. And obviously it's

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<v Speaker 3>not our m it's to be the physicality, but we

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<v Speaker 3>can play with it and we've proven that we can

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<v Speaker 3>beat teams who try to be physical with us. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was really good, really good effort. You know, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't always exactly what you wanted, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how many games you go through and you have what

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<v Speaker 3>you want. But we played well enough to win.

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<v Speaker 2>And while the Wildcats are working on becoming more physical,

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<v Speaker 2>they have been and still are really good on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>That has been one of their calling cards. They had

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<v Speaker 2>seven block shots last night and a couple of steals,

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<v Speaker 2>so defense has shown out for the Wildcats and Didding

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<v Speaker 2>in last Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Proof is in the numbers. You know, some things we

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<v Speaker 3>don't do well well with. There's some things we do

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<v Speaker 3>exceptionally well. And you know, we continue to hold people,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to their average or under tonight. But they

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<v Speaker 3>got a little bit, maybe a little bit under their average.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we're just a ben don't break type

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<v Speaker 3>defense and we understand the philosophy, we understand our assignments.

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<v Speaker 3>They do a really good job of listening to the scout.

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<v Speaker 2>So we mentioned the LSU game. That's a four o'clock start.

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<v Speaker 2>It is sold out. It's gonna be on ESPN. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be on the mothership ESPN. Darren will have the

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<v Speaker 2>pregame for you three forty five tip off at four,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can sink your TV and radio, I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>But it will be on ESPN. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>on any of the Plus channels or whatever. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be on ESPN. So check it out at four o'clock. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The following Thursday at the Coliseum, Tennessee comes to town.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Pandemonium Night. That's gonna be on the SEC Network.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Wildcats finish up a week from Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>with South Carolina in Columbia. That game is on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a two o'clock start, So two of Kentucky's next

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<v Speaker 2>three games are on the main ESPN channel.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I've covered UK women's basketball since the early eighties, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you this is the toughest stretch of

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<v Speaker 2>games that I can ever recall, and it's probably the

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<v Speaker 2>toughest ever in the history of UK women's basketball. Down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch, you gotta play ls you Tennessee and South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankfully for them, two of the those first year are

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<v Speaker 2>at home, but l s U Tennessee and South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>As you're playing for wins and seating for the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>tournament and the NCAA Tournament, it's tough. But think of

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<v Speaker 2>the advantage you'll have.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just win one of them. But if you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick up a win or two, what that does for

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<v Speaker 2>you going into the postseason. And that's how Kenny Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like my chances when we got to play

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<v Speaker 3>at home. Uh, just like anybody in the SEC. And uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and and it's once some people will look

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<v Speaker 3>at that situation as a gauntlet, but we're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>it as an opportunity and we're gonna go out, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna play. If you want to if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be the best, you gotta beat the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what the SEC is all about. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, since we're talking about numbers, I didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this last night, and I should have. But what

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<v Speaker 2>about Mary Williams and it's perfect game, Basegue. He became

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<v Speaker 2>the first Division one or NBA player to put up

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<v Speaker 2>numbers like this since Paul Gasol did it for the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers back in twenty ten. It's being called a quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote perfect game. Six to six from the field, five

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<v Speaker 2>of five from the free throw line, four block shots,

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<v Speaker 2>no fouls. Just an incredible night for him. And now

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<v Speaker 2>he is what tied for second, no second in an

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<v Speaker 2>eight way tie of UK players who put up numbers

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<v Speaker 2>like that. The best by a UK player Rodney Den.

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<v Speaker 2>He won seven for seven against South Carolina back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three, three for three from the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Roby went six for six against Alabama in the

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<v Speaker 2>championship season seventy seven seventy eight, also six or six

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<v Speaker 2>from the free throw line. They don't mention whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not either I doubt if either one of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any fouls. I doubt with all due respect

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<v Speaker 2>if either one had as many as four block shots.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, phenomenal night from Mary Williams and let

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<v Speaker 2>us remember. And I was one of them who wondered,

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<v Speaker 2>is this guy made of what it takes to play inside,

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<v Speaker 2>playing the paint in the sec And there were of

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<v Speaker 2>course people online, the overreactors, who were asking that he

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<v Speaker 2>just be left on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get rid of a Mario? Are we done

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<v Speaker 2>Can we please be finished with the Mary Williams, let

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<v Speaker 2>us please not overreact. I mean, the worst, the dumbest

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<v Speaker 2>one of all this year, I can tell you the

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<v Speaker 2>dumbest one of all was a quote unquote UK fan

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<v Speaker 2>who on that great arbiter Twitter acts whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it. After the old mis loss which was bad,

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<v Speaker 2>which was puzzling, which was ugly, this clown says you

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<v Speaker 2>got to do it now, get rid of Pope, got

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of him now, don't wait, just cut

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<v Speaker 2>and run. Now take your losses, you know, get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of Mark Pope. Now, please think before you hit send

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<v Speaker 2>or not, and show yourself out to be a fool

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<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot of us clearly were wrong

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<v Speaker 2>about Williams. But as we mentioned last night, and Pope

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<v Speaker 2>has talked about this, it has taken him a while

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm paraphrasing, to figure out what he can get

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<v Speaker 1>And he talked about it last night. We had him

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<v Speaker 1>on the show talking about it, that.

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<v Speaker 2>He just needed to figure out how physical he could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't mean to sound sexist here, but the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC is the men's league. You know, I'm borrowing that

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<v Speaker 2>phrase from Pat McAfee. That's how he talks about the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>and he compares college players to the pros. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the men's league. Well, in some ways, that's the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's more about not manliness, but just about how

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<v Speaker 2>games are officiated because players are bigger, faster, strong, just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit just enough in the SEC. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there are kids in the mid majors quote unquote who

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<v Speaker 2>can play that way, but it's more consistently played that

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<v Speaker 2>way in the SEC. And that's what Amari Williams is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>playing more consistently that way. And look, he may lay

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<v Speaker 2>and egg tomorrow for all I know, but he's clearly

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<v Speaker 2>better than he was when he got here, and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>I think it does all right.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, people keep throwing labels around like

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<v Speaker 2>face of the league and greatest of all time and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and former players from different pro leagues are

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<v Speaker 2>taking vocal and verbal issue with that. We'll hear about

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<v Speaker 2>it on the other side of the break. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour, Derek Terry from Batcat Center,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk Kentucky baseball season underway. Our number two Keith Elkins,

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<v Speaker 2>longtime sportscaster here in Lexington and now work in high

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<v Speaker 2>school games as well as doing interviews for the WUKY

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<v Speaker 2>Moore with us here on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Big Moonsider. As I mentioned, there is

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<v Speaker 2>discussion out there, and there always is because everybody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to have the hot take, the instant take, the lists,

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. The greatest of all time is a

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<v Speaker 2>He and Kenny the Jet Smith and Shaq and Ernie

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<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, Charles Barkley on set the other night TNT

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<v Speaker 1>He loves hockey. Uh. He had a real problem with somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, you don't give anybody the face of

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<v Speaker 4>we got. These idiots won't play an All Star game.

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<v Speaker 4>We've given them so much, they don't have no respect

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<v Speaker 4>for the history, but you don't give anybody the face

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<v Speaker 1>And I love what he said, and he's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>The face of the league if you're the guy front

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<v Speaker 2>center and all the promos that the network's run and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, But in terms of being the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>You could be talking about the w NBA as well,

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<v Speaker 2>be in the alpha, the lead in that league. Just

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<v Speaker 1>Well she is the face, but is she.

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Barkley said, you got to take that, and Clark

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know she ever will. But I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting that it came.

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<v Speaker 2>w or the NBA All Star situation is becoming a joke,

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<v Speaker 2>part of it, he said, is you got to show up.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're really about sports, then you're about two things,

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<v Speaker 6>your teammates and the fans. And I'm sorry, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>matter how much money you're making. When you do not

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<v Speaker 6>show up to play, you're letting your teammates down. When

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care if you're getting three hundred million, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 6>But these people in here are paying twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 6>working people. If you don't get your head wrapped around that,

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<v Speaker 6>you shouldn't be in pro sports, because how are we

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<v Speaker 6>gonna grow. How do we expect you to be an example? Well,

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<v Speaker 6>You're on the biggest stage. You just said it. They

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<v Speaker 6>make the most money. You're an example. You gotta show up.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to take that on. I'm sick and tired

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<v Speaker 6>of making athletes greats, all time greats that aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 6>You want athletes to be educated on this and understand this.

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<v Speaker 6>They got to understand the importance of showing up to

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<v Speaker 6>playing banged up sometimes and playing injured maybe at times,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you, and participating. Because here's the thing. Because you're

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<v Speaker 6>making one hundred two hundredree hundred million, you should be

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<v Speaker 4>Is to max out.

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<v Speaker 6>We talk about greatness in it being the longevity of

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<v Speaker 6>I want your best ten. I want you on the

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to go all out.

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<v Speaker 6>I want Michael Jordan, I want Kobe. That's what I

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<v Speaker 6>want in every sport. That's the guy that I follow.

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<v Speaker 6>You're a different version than that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get my respect.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how much I like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>everybody there was like Stephen A. Smith and three other

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<v Speaker 2>people on the split screen with him, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of them spoke, but nobody was quite

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<v Speaker 2>as outspoken as he was.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a guy who was a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a journeyman. He played thirteen seasons, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>few African Americans. Actually he is from camb was born

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<v Speaker 2>when they were, but his mom and dad are from

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<v Speaker 2>the Caribbean. So anyhow, And this is a guy I

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<v Speaker 2>saw on wiki who at one point, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>this was engaged to Lindsay Vaughn. They split up before

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, good on you, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, I love the fact that Barkley and subon

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<v Speaker 2>Marek Barkley, better known of course in the States, are

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<v Speaker 2>using their platforms though to almost shame current athletes who

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<v Speaker 2>are paid so much money and they don't begrudge them

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<v Speaker 2>the money. But what Barkley and Subon and both said

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<v Speaker 2>about different topics essentially at the same time, get out

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<v Speaker 2>paying these extravagant ticket prices that you give a crap up. Next,

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Terry to Talkentucky Baseball six thirty WLAP Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Big Lu Insider and joining us now is

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<v Speaker 2>a long time friend of the show and a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who was on the UK beat for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Get into the private sector but couldn't quite stay away,

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<v Speaker 2>so Derek Terry created Batkat Central. You can be a subscriber.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll tell you more about that a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know so many people, and you among them,

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<v Speaker 2>got a kick out of the World Series run last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and who wouldn't for Kentucky baseball. But in this day

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<v Speaker 2>and age, man, it's really hard to kind of follow

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<v Speaker 2>up and build on success because of the turnover in

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<v Speaker 2>general in college sports, especially college baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right?

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<v Speaker 7>You're right, yeah, this was a line up on Friday.

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<v Speaker 7>If you maybe hadn't paid too much attention to the offseason,

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<v Speaker 7>but maybe he had gotten into Kentucky baseball last summer

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<v Speaker 7>and during the World Series run that they're just turned

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<v Speaker 7>out a whole lot of familiar names in that lineup.

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<v Speaker 7>The other day, you had a James McCoy, who I

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<v Speaker 7>last season, but the expectation kind of from what I

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<v Speaker 7>had been told, is that he would be pitching a

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<v Speaker 7>lot more this year. But he got to start in

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<v Speaker 7>the Petrick Herrera, who was a bench player for the

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<v Speaker 7>most part last year, who started a third and outside

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<v Speaker 7>of that, it was a whole lot of New States.

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<v Speaker 7>So they got down to Lipscomb and and really kind

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<v Speaker 7>of had a series that brought off the bat was

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<v Speaker 7>you know, started off very well to win eleven to

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<v Speaker 7>zero and have a mercy role, but Game two was

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<v Speaker 7>not quite as good, and then he ended up in

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<v Speaker 7>a spot with the weather that they only get two

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<v Speaker 7>games in down the air, and then you can't get

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<v Speaker 7>the midweek game in. It's a frigid here in Lexington

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<v Speaker 7>this week, So heading into the second weekend, with just

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<v Speaker 7>two games under their belt, so I'll be curious to

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<v Speaker 7>or anything this weekend either, So I'll be falling along

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<v Speaker 7>on the radio. If you're going to be following along

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<v Speaker 7>with baseball this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be tough too for both teams because

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know, I mean that's that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Nature of college baseball. But getting back to the lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not that surprised that McCoy started because I

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<v Speaker 2>Nick minjeone and Dan Roselle as many of their pitchers

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<v Speaker 1>Really need to find out about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they know about McCoy, uh, you know, from from

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<v Speaker 7>They do. It's kind of unfortunate too. Fre Ethan Walker

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<v Speaker 7>he was going to be the third game starter. H

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<v Speaker 7>he I'm sure he was ready to go and helped

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<v Speaker 7>the way extra week uh for that. But they got

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<v Speaker 7>and then ideally it's nice you know in a series.

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<v Speaker 7>In game one they only had to use two pictures. Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>Scott Rouse came in after him, but uh, game two

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<v Speaker 7>You saw a lot of those arms in game two,

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<v Speaker 7>You know who what some of those guys have been

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<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky last year, both the starters, but especially the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 2>and Hogan was such a big part.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was kind of surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's way early, but he did not pitch

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<v Speaker 2>well last weekend. Bobby Spins did not. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be fine. Obviously we've seen what he can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's always the great mystery, isn't it the depth

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<v Speaker 2>of the bullpen?

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<v Speaker 7>It is it is, And you know, Hogan, I felt

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<v Speaker 7>like he had a box where it was maybe just

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit worse. He was not good, certainly not.

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<v Speaker 7>He was giving four wild pitches out of the Twelvey three,

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<v Speaker 7>which obviously looks horrible on the box store. It's one

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<v Speaker 7>third of the pitches for little wall pitches a couple

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<v Speaker 7>that were there. What was really I think that's a

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<v Speaker 7>funny for him, was that he came in in a

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<v Speaker 7>spot where you know you're hoping he can come in

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<v Speaker 7>and gets them out to keep that run off the

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<v Speaker 7>board and he got a head o two to that

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<v Speaker 7>second hitter and he ended up losing them. The command

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<v Speaker 7>just wasn't there. And those are two walks and when

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<v Speaker 7>they he loose them and they'll drive you crazy. Uh

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<v Speaker 7>But you don't have to single him out, but everyone

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<v Speaker 7>else really, I mean through pretty well, honestly, Sleeper, you know,

446
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<v Speaker 7>it was okay, he was through three innings. He was

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<v Speaker 7>good at that fourth ending, got in a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>of trouble, but not not a bad adding when I

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<v Speaker 7>for his first start either of the season. So the

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<v Speaker 7>pitching depth like another thing too, Dick. I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 7>about some of the younger arms, you know, with any

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<v Speaker 7>of the younger guys about now on Sunday to follow

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<v Speaker 7>up Walker, you know, I've heard some really good things

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<v Speaker 7>in the fall and then two in the I guess

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<v Speaker 7>the early winter here leaning up. I'm Nate Harris, one

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<v Speaker 7>of the freshmen. You also have Layton Harris, who's a

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<v Speaker 7>local kid. But Nate Harris at Illinois Variety, I think

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<v Speaker 7>he was at to ninety five is at one point

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<v Speaker 7>in the fall. So they've got a freshman class of

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<v Speaker 7>arms that I think the don't want to bring along slowly,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure, but as the season progresses. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 7>the one area of this Kentucky baseball program, especially with

463
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<v Speaker 7>Dan Rosell here, They've always found a way to get out,

464
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<v Speaker 7>but they've almost always too had, you know, a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of mixing and matchingg ains the season went along.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys that emerge that didn't start out in that role

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<v Speaker 7>to begin the season. I mean, gosh, if you're to

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<v Speaker 7>go look at their Friday Night starters through the years,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, how often has it changed. It feels like

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<v Speaker 7>almost every year it ever started the first game. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>last year, Trey Pooster would not have been your first option.

472
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<v Speaker 7>Travis Smith was, but by the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 7>Pooster was their top guy. And can you go back

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<v Speaker 7>a few more years of Sean Harney kind of being

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<v Speaker 7>that guy. So still still a lot to figure out,

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<v Speaker 7>I think with the pitching staff, but I generally steel

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<v Speaker 7>pretty good about it. But you never know in these arms,

478
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<v Speaker 7>and then competition will get a little bit better, a

479
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<v Speaker 7>little a lot better in the SEC and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>either kind of think or one at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Derek Terry is the publisher of Batcatcentral dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and of course, uh, we'll be keeping an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on UK baseball this weekend. But as Derek said, each

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<v Speaker 2>to the last two games the Wildcats were scheduled to play.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost to Weather, but opened up successfully last weekend

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<v Speaker 2>in Nashville where they are tonight to Lipscombe, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course Cole Hage had the home run, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Three run bomb. H You know, he did well in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Bell at shortstop, one of the storylines to follow,

491
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<v Speaker 2>had a nice stop in the last scrimmage before the

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<v Speaker 2>Wildcats regular season and then acquitted himself. Well, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>down in Nashville that that is one kid that I

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<v Speaker 2>think is fascinating, Derek. He was the highest rafted player

495
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<v Speaker 2>to not go pro and to play college ball, and

496
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<v Speaker 2>he signs with Kentucky, which gives Wildcats now potentially their

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<v Speaker 2>fifth consecutive year with You know, they hope more to

498
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<v Speaker 2>come of an outstanding shortstop, Ridder for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>a goal Glover, Grant Smith who should have been a

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Glover, and now Tyler Bell. This is quite a

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<v Speaker 2>run for Nickmnjione.

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<v Speaker 7>It is you kind of wonder how much how much

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<v Speaker 7>good fortune they got from that. How many years do

504
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<v Speaker 7>they get to go now where you know, they can't

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<v Speaker 7>really complain about any bad breaks that might happen to

506
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<v Speaker 7>get a kid like that to show up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>that was a tremendous development in one and just quite frankly,

508
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<v Speaker 7>you don't really see ever happen, especially you know, guys

509
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<v Speaker 7>that get drafted that high under these new roles, not

510
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<v Speaker 7>so new rules anymore, I guess with the MiB draft,

511
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<v Speaker 7>but the way the bonus full money works, I mean,

512
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<v Speaker 7>most of these teams have that mapped out well in advance,

513
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<v Speaker 7>and you're typically the odds are just not good that

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<v Speaker 7>you get him. And I thought he had some good

515
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<v Speaker 7>at bats, he didn't get a hit, the kid in

516
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<v Speaker 7>center field made a tremendous play, and yeah, probably the

517
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<v Speaker 7>probably the best offense to play the weekend, at least

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<v Speaker 7>down in Nashville, to rob him of not only his

519
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<v Speaker 7>first career ahead, but it would have been an RBI

520
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<v Speaker 7>as well. And like you mentioned, Age came through as a

521
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<v Speaker 7>home run there right after, so kind of stepped up.

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<v Speaker 7>But and I thought Bell at least offensively, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I think he looked really good in the fall, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>out there on that turf they think they normally do

525
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<v Speaker 7>at this level, and I think he bounced, so I

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<v Speaker 7>can't remember he was rolled with an air or if

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<v Speaker 7>they give to somebody else. But you know, I thought

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<v Speaker 7>he looked fine, just fine. I mean, he'll get a

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<v Speaker 7>lot better as it goes. I don't know if there

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<v Speaker 7>are any nerves there or not. He don't play poorly

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<v Speaker 7>by any means, but uh, I'll be curious to see

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<v Speaker 7>kind where he settles in the lineup switch hitter that

533
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<v Speaker 7>you know, he's patient at the plate, I would say,

534
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<v Speaker 7>and the times I saw him in the fall and

535
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<v Speaker 7>the one thing I haven't seen from him though, And

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to ask like I was out there

537
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<v Speaker 7>all the time, but I was. I was up there

538
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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more frequently than I had been in

539
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<v Speaker 7>the past. Haven't really seen him tap into his power

540
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<v Speaker 7>too much. He had a great scrimmage one of the

541
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<v Speaker 7>days I went to, Yeah, and it wasn't hard, but

542
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<v Speaker 7>they were all kind of line drop singles, which is fine.

543
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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you'll take that, but I'll be curious to see.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he wasn't really even a guy in high

545
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<v Speaker 7>school that they hit a lot of home runs. But

546
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<v Speaker 7>he's someone that maybe not this year, but but by

547
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<v Speaker 7>next season. I'll be curious to see how he's developed

548
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<v Speaker 7>physically and if he can tap in and you know,

549
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<v Speaker 7>be a guy that can hit the double digit home

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<v Speaker 7>runs at some point, because I think that would be

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<v Speaker 7>you know, for his draft probiles. He's a guy that

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<v Speaker 7>part of the reason he probably did come to schools

553
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<v Speaker 7>because he knew he could re enter the draft in

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<v Speaker 7>a few years. So that'd be a great thing for

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<v Speaker 7>Kentucky to be able to get a kid like that one.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, they've they've got the hard part. They got

557
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<v Speaker 7>him to school, but now, you know, can he develop

558
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<v Speaker 7>him like he developed some of these other guys and

559
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<v Speaker 7>get him drafted highly because you know down the road

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<v Speaker 7>you'll have something to show pase recruits that they're kind

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<v Speaker 7>of on the fence about coming to school.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Terry is my guest publisher of bat Cat Central.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more Kentucky baseball on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the here in just a moment on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. We're talking with Derek Terry. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>publisher of Batcat Central, and that's where you need to

567
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<v Speaker 2>go if you want to follow Kentucky baseball along with

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<v Speaker 2>UCA Athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>Dot Com. But Derek does a nice job.

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<v Speaker 2>Covering the program and did when he was a journalist

571
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<v Speaker 2>now back in the private sector, but came up with

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<v Speaker 2>the website and a great way to follow Kentucky baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we're talking about the opening series of just

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<v Speaker 2>two games last weekend down at Listscom. The Wildcats with

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend series here at Belmont back in Nashville. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the positions that I think is going to be

577
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<v Speaker 2>really interesting this year, Derek is catcher because they went

578
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<v Speaker 2>out and they signed Rafael Peltier and then Devin Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>decided that he's a Devin Berkshuder decides he's coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which is a plus. I mean, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>great leader and was preseason all Conference. Did struggle last

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<v Speaker 2>year offensively, a little bit defensively at times, but they

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<v Speaker 2>they split shared the two games, I should say, last weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but Peltier was with a good glove and a pretty

585
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<v Speaker 2>good bat. I'm curious to see how they share that time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean, yeah, very much. I mean, Peltier was one of

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<v Speaker 7>the guys that I thought performed very well leading into

589
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<v Speaker 7>the season. I mean, this was a guy that, like

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<v Speaker 7>you mentioned, I mean clearly was you know, whenever he

591
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<v Speaker 7>committed to Kentucky out of the portal at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was widely assumed, I mean even by

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<v Speaker 7>the coaching staff that you know, Devin Burts should not

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<v Speaker 7>be back, yeah, for another season, So he was brought

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<v Speaker 7>in to be the starter this year. In my opinion,

596
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<v Speaker 7>did nothing in the fall to suggest that he really

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<v Speaker 7>shouldn't be in the running. I mean, I think he

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<v Speaker 7>performed in a way that I was comfortable, at least

599
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<v Speaker 7>from watching them, thinking that you'd be fine, you know,

600
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<v Speaker 7>handling that you always want to have more than one

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<v Speaker 7>catcher just because of the toll that that position can

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<v Speaker 7>take over the course of the season. And Bert's was

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<v Speaker 7>really I know, he was all sec part of the

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<v Speaker 7>preseason voting is in some a susponding guys that people

605
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<v Speaker 7>familiar with, and on paper it makes sense, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>he is a returning player and on a team that

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<v Speaker 7>made it to the College World Series last year. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, for people who maybe haven't kept up as much,

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<v Speaker 7>Devin didn't really play much in the offseason. He played

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<v Speaker 7>some defense, but he didn't really bad at all on

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<v Speaker 7>the live scrimmages. He had surgery once ball was over.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he's not someone who you know, coming off

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<v Speaker 7>of a tough year, has really even probably got to

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<v Speaker 7>make many adjustments. So he hit third the other day

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<v Speaker 7>in that second game. You know, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 7>a vote of confidence there from the staff that they

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<v Speaker 7>believe in him coming off of a tough year, that

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<v Speaker 7>he can still get the job done. And he had

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<v Speaker 7>one ball that did pretty well. That's a short start. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>just kind of hit it right where he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really needed it. He put a good swing on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, well you take that over some of the

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<v Speaker 7>outcomes that they have some some other guys you know,

625
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<v Speaker 7>went down swinging or watching in some cases. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing with the catcher spot to on her Menjion

627
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<v Speaker 7>is they've really kind of whoever the starter has been

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<v Speaker 7>for the for the most part, I wouldn't say this

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<v Speaker 7>is always in the case. For the most part, they

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<v Speaker 7>they kind of ride it out with one guy a lot.

631
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they'll and Burks is someone who's logged a

632
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 7>lot of innings for Kentucky. So but I will be

633
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 7>curious to know it's healthy a you know, I think

634
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<v Speaker 7>if you're going to call him a backup or whatever,

635
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 7>he's much better than than many of the backup catchers.

636
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 7>I mean that Kentucky's had.

637
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no question about that. Uh.

638
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>And one thing you know they love about Devin is

639
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 2>the way he handles pitchers, especially young pitchers. They have

640
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>made no secret of that. There have been other catchers

641
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 2>on roster, on the roster who might hit a little better,

642
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>but even and that's how he kind of broke into

643
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the lineup. If you'll recall a couple three years ago,

644
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>towards the end of the season, you know, and it

645
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>was just a way that he carried himself. And you know,

646
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 2>he's they call him the happiest man in baseball.

647
00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 1>For a reason.

648
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>But I really am curious to see how that's going

649
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to play out. We're talking with Derek Terry Batcats Central

650
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>about the Wildcats, who opened up splitting a series last

651
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>weekend of two games with lifts coming. Of course, they've

652
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>got Belmont in Nashville again this weekend.

653
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>We've gone a while before.

654
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about second base and Luke Lawrence wins the

655
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>starting job, leads off both games, has a couple of

656
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.079
<v Speaker 2>hits and three runs batted in in the series opener.

657
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 2>You talked about some huge spikes to fill with. Keep

658
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 2>three moving on, man, But they do like him a lot,

659
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>don't they.

660
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 7>They do. You know, he's a guy too. Whenever they

661
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 7>signed him at Illinois State, he played several positions. You know,

662
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 7>we talked about how they f I'm Peltier coming as

663
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 7>a starter. He could probably say the same thing about Lawrence.

664
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 7>He might have been their shortstop, you know, had they'll

665
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 7>not come to school. So he gives Kentucky another good

666
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 7>defensive piece up the middle, and he's an the lead

667
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 7>off hitter. He played that role in the fall, and

668
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.039
<v Speaker 7>he carried that right end of the season where he

669
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 7>he's setting the tone for him a good experience veteran player.

670
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 7>And another thing too that I like. I mean, these

671
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 7>days he kind of the whole program building aspect that

672
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 7>still exists, but early it's kind of just year to

673
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 7>year now. But the biggest thing that I like about

674
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 7>Luke is you know he's got He's got another year

675
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 7>after this, so you know, if they do it in

676
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 7>a way that uh, he's back next year. You know,

677
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 7>this middle infield of bell And and Lawrence could could

678
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.720
<v Speaker 7>have sixty something games or whatever potentially under their under

679
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 7>their belt. This year and come back next year, and

680
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 7>he's sold bit better about the long term outlook. But

681
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think that the third base spot is

682
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 7>really that is really the one that as opposed to UH.

683
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 7>In addition, I guess to catcher, you know who's gonna

684
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 7>play third He's seen her air, He's seen Hindle, so

685
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 7>it started. I think Garget could be a guy that

686
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 7>UH plays over there too, So we'll see. These are

687
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 7>positions they were so close coming out of the fall

688
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 7>that you had to expect that. You know, a couple

689
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 7>of guys are going to get their opportunities. And I

690
00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 7>do like the long term outlook for a guy like

691
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 7>and handled, but your hero has just stayed in the

692
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 7>program and he's kept developing and when he's gotten this chance,

693
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, I've always felt like he was a guy

694
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 7>who could help them. So we'll see. Everything else looks

695
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 7>pretty settled, but the catcher spot in third base, So

696
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 7>those are the two that I think as the season goes,

697
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 7>who's going to step up? And will someone take control

698
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 7>of those spots? And ended up being their leader at

699
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 7>those positions.

700
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they've had some question marks. It seems like

701
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 2>at at third base for a few years now. I

702
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>mean Jace Felker, uh for a while there, you know,

703
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>good stick, but you kind of you had to wonder

704
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>about his glove a little bit. And uh, I remember

705
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago Isaiah Buyers came in and

706
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>they thought he would be the guy and and and

707
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>had the physical skills, but got hurt and you know,

708
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 2>they they ended up just kind of trying to patch

709
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>work the lineup together. But you know, but it's college baseball.

710
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's it's always question marks like that.

711
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I don't know. I think the things kind

712
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>of leveled off last year in a good way for

713
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the Wildcats, so you can only hope the same happens

714
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this season. But you bring up a great point about

715
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 2>the future and with so much consternation about the portal

716
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and nil, you know, and now the Skyllie numbers are

717
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 2>going to go up and finally be a lot healthier

718
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>for college baseball. But it's kind of ironic to me, Derek,

719
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>that college baseball coaches have had to deal with a

720
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 2>revolving door for years and years. Can as you recalled,

721
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>for a while, there might have been back when you

722
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>were in college if you transferred in college athletics, you

723
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>had to city year unless you were playing women's basketball

724
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 2>or baseball, and you can play it right away. So

725
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, the constant movement was just a constant, if

726
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you will. In baseball now it seems like baseball you

727
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 2>sign a kid and he's going to be there for

728
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>two or three years. It seems like baseball now, oddly enough,

729
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>is more secure than the other sports, you know what

730
00:35:58.719 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

731
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, I think it's a great big picture to

732
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 7>look at it. I mean, this is a sport that

733
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 7>is very difficult to understand. I mean I still have

734
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 7>covered it for a while, still don't know that I

735
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 7>fully like drafts, everything about some of the kind of

736
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 7>inside baseball stuff. A scholarship advantages depending on financial aid

737
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 7>for certain states. You know are in Kentucky we have

738
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 7>keys money, but other states have some other systems that

739
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 7>make it a little bit easier. You want to recruit

740
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 7>more kids in state that you can not have to

741
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 7>allot some of your eleven point seven on those guys.

742
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.000
<v Speaker 7>So going to whatever the scholarship numbers end up being,

743
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm still waiting to kind of get the full details

744
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 7>on that before diving in a little bit more. You

745
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 7>know what I think is interesting, and this is not

746
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 7>me commenting saying it's right or wrong. Kentucky still sign

747
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 7>a pretty what I would consider to be a pretty

748
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 7>large high school class coming in next year. Any of

749
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 7>the draft that might take some of that, and we'll

750
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 7>see if they make any kind of adjustments this on

751
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 7>thirteen and moving forward, I think rosters are going to

752
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 7>be right around thirty five. That's a pretty big number

753
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 7>because I think you see in some other sports football,

754
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 7>that's what it means all rectatinos quoth the other night

755
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 7>that they're not even going to recruit high school players

756
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.800
<v Speaker 7>for this upcoming year. So for Kentucky to make that decision,

757
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, they might still be trying to keep that

758
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 7>long term. You know, get guys if they like, from

759
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 7>high school into the program and develop them there for

760
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 7>a few years. So if there is a payoff there,

761
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 7>if you're able to do that, well, but what's the

762
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 7>short term Unless you're signing thirteen guys that you think

763
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 7>can all help you that one season, it's pretty big

764
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 7>chunk of of you know, scholarship capital, but you're putting

765
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 7>on young guys, so it cuts you down in some

766
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 7>other areas. I'll just be fascinated to see. Is that

767
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 7>what they're planning going to be moving forward? Do they

768
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 7>want to keep tilling double digit numbers? I believe. I

769
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 7>saw Georgia might have only signed four or five guys. Yeah,

770
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 7>for this upcoming class, they're going to keep recruiting portal guys.

771
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 7>And it's kind of different than what you would think,

772
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 7>right because Kentucky has been so good with the portal

773
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 7>and baseball, ude might think they will leave a little

774
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 7>bit more space. So we'll see. That'll be one of

775
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 7>the areas I'm really curious to see how to they

776
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 7>adjust that year every year moving forward.

777
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what Derek's referring to as Rick Pattino basically flat

778
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 2>out said, we're not recruiting high school kids. We got

779
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 2>to replace X, Y, and Z right now, and you

780
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>can't do that with true freshmen. So they're going to

781
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 2>hit the portal. Plus he also said in that documentary

782
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 2>series Money's No Object or something like that. So they've

783
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>got at least one or two sugar daddies for Saint

784
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 2>John's who are going to pony up the nil up

785
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>there in New York.

786
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 7>Derek Terry is famous famous Kentucky football and ile downer right.

787
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, Derek Terry is the publisher of Batcat Central.

788
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Batcatcentral dot com is where you can subscribe. Derek, we'll

789
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 2>be talking again.

790
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 7>Thanks so much, all right, thanks for having me on

791
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 7>up next hour.

792
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Number two with longtime lexingon sports boys Keith Elkins and

793
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>West End.

794
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Bureau chief Gary Moore. That's all I add. You're on

795
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the Big Boom Sider six thirty lap.

796
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 8>Then teatact given, then.

797
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider joining us

798
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>now is a longtime friend and a guy whose voice

799
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>is very familiar here in Keith Elkins, formerly the sports

800
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>director at w l e X, longtime radio voice of

801
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the Lexing and Legends. You can hear his podcast the

802
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Sports Page on w UKY, the UK campus station, and

803
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 2>also if you're a high school basketball fan, you can

804
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>see him and hear him on YouTube on the glack

805
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>cod broadcasts of a high school basketball girls and boys

806
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>here in Lexing.

807
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, for a guy, you're like me. For a

808
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 1>guy who's retired, Keith, you're pretty busy.

809
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think in retirement you try to stay busy,

810
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 9>but maybe a little more on your own terms. But

811
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 9>it is it is fun to stay active and maybe

812
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 9>with a little more limited schedule, but I'm enjoying it

813
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 9>very much.

814
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I see you at the basketball games, the men's games Kentucky.

815
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 2>You bump into each other, and of course you covered

816
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 2>that program for a long time. Things have changed so

817
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>much since you and I work those games regularly. But

818
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit of a throwback this year, isn't it.

819
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Where You've got guys who came in and a lot

820
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 2>of them will just be here for the one year

821
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the Big Blue Nations really wrapped its arms around this team,

822
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>hasn't it.

823
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 9>You can feel that at rep Arena. I think the

824
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 9>atmosphere has lifted this year. There seems to be more

825
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 9>energy inside the arena, and they've really embraced this team

826
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 9>and of course this coach. After the initial doubts, everyone

827
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 9>seemed to be on board just within forty eight hours

828
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 9>or so of Mark Cope's hiring, and that doesn't seem

829
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 9>to have changed, even though there have been a couple

830
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 9>of bumps in the road in this season, but overall,

831
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 9>it's been great and it's been a lot of fun

832
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 9>to watch, and they seem to be enjoying playing that

833
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 9>style for him, and we only hope that things will

834
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 9>get better as they go on, and they've been pretty

835
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 9>good this year, so he's off to a great start

836
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 9>and it is a terrific atmosphere. Good to be a

837
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 9>fan right now.

838
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 2>As a guy who has covered this team and has

839
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>just been able to sit back and watch as well.

840
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 2>You know this though, expectations from Kentucky fans, I don't

841
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 2>care who's out there are always sky high. And you

842
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 2>covered some of the best teams, you know, and it's

843
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>understandable that people expected the best. And I think that

844
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the early wins by this team over the likes of

845
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Duke and some others suddenly that people thinking not just ooh,

846
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>if we could just be five hundred in the sec

847
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, then it became much more than that. But

848
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 2>injuries have caught up with them. What do you see

849
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the postseason for this team. I'm not

850
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 2>asking to make predictions, but you know, what do you

851
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>think fans should expect?

852
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think obviously the fans are going to want

853
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 9>a win or two in the NCAAA tournament after what's

854
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 9>happened over the last few years. But I think it's

855
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.360
<v Speaker 9>realistic to expect some success in the NCAA tournament, but

856
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 9>it's so tough that you could I can see them

857
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 9>beating anybody in the field, but it's hard to see

858
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 9>them winning five or six in a row against really

859
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 9>good competitions. So if you can get past the first weekend,

860
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 9>I think that would keep the excitement going. You definitely

861
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 9>need a way to avoid having the atmosphere turned down

862
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 9>a little bit, But I think it's fair to expect

863
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 9>a win or two from this team in the NCAAA

864
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 9>and also the SEC tournament. Yeah, gets showing there too,

865
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 9>And what to feel that is. I hear people saying

866
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 9>that it's a tougher path to the SEC final than

867
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 9>it is to the final four, and that may well

868
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 9>be true. So it's an incredible year in SEC basketball,

869
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 9>but that will be an especially tough tournament to play in.

870
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 9>But they'll be looking for some success there too, especially

871
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 9>after the opening statements that Pope made it his initial

872
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 9>press conference about putting more emphasis on that. So people

873
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.960
<v Speaker 9>are looking forward to that. Expectations are high as always.

874
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

875
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's common sense it's going to be tougher

876
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to win to get to the SEC championship game, perhaps

877
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>than the nca tournament, just given how well the SEC

878
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 2>has shown out this year. But on the other hand,

879
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 2>what better preparation for the nca tournament than this brutal

880
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 2>slog of a schedule that all these SEC teams are playing.

881
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's true, and each time that the home

882
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 9>game would come up, and I'm going as a fan

883
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 9>now and here's another good game. There's another good team

884
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 9>against the top twenty five team, and you head on

885
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 9>the road, and any SEC win on the road is

886
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 9>a good win. But this year it's especially tough because

887
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 9>all these teams have accomplished so much themselves. So you

888
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 9>talked about having a five hundred record in the SEC, Well,

889
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 9>that may turn out to be a pretty good performance.

890
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 9>You've turned in a lot of good games to get

891
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 9>a five hundred record. It's just incredible, and it's got

892
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 9>to be I would think a good training ground or

893
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 9>a good proving ground for later play in the NCAA tournament.

894
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 9>But at the same time, you might get beaten down

895
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 9>a little bit too. So I think they can draw

896
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 9>on the experience, and we've seen that too, but I

897
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 9>think they can draw on the experience and be even

898
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 9>more ready for NCAA tournament. Play having been through this.

899
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Talking to Keith Elkins. He is a semi retired sportscaster,

900
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 2>but extremely busy and as I mentioned earlier, one of

901
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>his duties is I doubt if you think of it

902
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>as a duty as hosting the sports Page podcast for WUKY.

903
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Through the years, You've probably been asked this more than once,

904
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>but did you have you had any and I don't

905
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>want to put you on the spot, but any podcast

906
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 2>interviews that I don't want to call him a favorite,

907
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 2>but one that turned out maybe you better than you thought,

908
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>or one that you had really worked like heck to

909
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>get and finally were able to nail it down.

910
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 9>Well, there's probably been a few that would fall into

911
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 9>that category. I would say, maybe, speaking more generally, the

912
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 9>ones that I seem to have had the most fun

913
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 9>with anyway, and I've enjoyed them all of course, But

914
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.320
<v Speaker 9>the ones that have seemed to have been the most

915
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 9>fun are talking to the guys who played back when

916
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 9>we were in school, back in the early seventies. And

917
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 9>it was very nice to see that nineteen seventy five

918
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 9>team honored recently at Rapparta. That was a great team

919
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.920
<v Speaker 9>who'd gone through a very interesting career with their freshman

920
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 9>class and then the thirteen and thirteen year and then

921
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 9>bouncing back with the final game appearance in seventy five.

922
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 9>So talking to guys from that era like Jerry Hale

923
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.599
<v Speaker 9>or Jim Andrews, that proved to be the most fun

924
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 9>for me because that brought back the years of being

925
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 9>in the colisseum and watching those guys play, and they

926
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 9>were really fun to watch and so glad to see

927
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 9>them get that attention at this reason. I can't believe

928
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 9>it's fiftieth anniversary, but that's what it was, and so

929
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 9>fifty years since then. I know you were a part

930
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 9>of that as well, and it was good to see

931
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 9>those guys out there on the floor and acknowledging the applause.

932
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 9>So I'd say probably from that era has been the favorite.

933
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 9>I enjoyed really talking with Marty Brenneman back last year.

934
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 9>That was fun. I mean I did baseball for on

935
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 9>a different level, of course, but for a long time

936
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 9>and get to talk to him and get some of

937
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 9>his insights. The main thing about the podcast is you

938
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 9>get to talk to people for thirty or forty minutes

939
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 9>and you get into a conversation as opposed to trying

940
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 9>to grab a sound bite and put it together for

941
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 9>a newscast. So that's been the most enjoyable part about

942
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.000
<v Speaker 9>the broadcast. And there have been several favorites, so it'd

943
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 9>be hard to pin down one particular favorite. But as

944
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 9>far as the era is concerned, I think talking to

945
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 9>those guys who played I was in school, and it

946
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 9>goes for football too. I talked to Joe Beettersfield and

947
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 9>that was a lot of time because I watched him

948
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 9>play in the early seventies, and he talked about had

949
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 9>they have to get dressed over in the basketball locker

950
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 9>rooms memorial colisume and walk over to stall Field, and

951
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 9>so I thought, well, things have changed a lot there,

952
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 9>but that's the way it was. That was life at

953
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 9>a at a basketball school in those days.

954
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>You also talk to Art Still, and you can go

955
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 2>back and listen to these in the archives at w

956
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>u K Y excuse me, dot Org. Art is a

957
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>character you know whenever you and I love talking to him,

958
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 2>but you gotta you gotta kind of keep the reins

959
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in on him, don't you.

960
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 9>You have to try, But I'm not sure anybody is

961
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 9>really successful in doing that with Art Still. You asked

962
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 9>a question, and I'm just reminded of the old Brisco

963
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 9>Darling lion on the Andy Griffiths Show. If you were

964
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 9>a fan of that, when they get ready to play,

965
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 9>and Brisco Darling would say, just jump in and hang on.

966
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 9>That's right, and that's and that's what you feel like

967
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 9>when you're when you're talking to art Field, just jump

968
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 9>in and hang on because the interview.

969
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 7>Is not going to go.

970
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 9>You can make some notes that maybe have some more

971
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 9>questions ready, but you they have no idea whether an

972
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 9>interview is going to go. But what's funny is.

973
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 7>To talk to you. Though.

974
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 9>I got finished with that and I thought, I'm not

975
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 9>sure what happened there, but I know we got to

976
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 9>talk for thirty or forty minutes.

977
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That's all right.

978
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more with Keith Elkins on the other side

979
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>of the break here on the Big Boom Sider six

980
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty WLAP.

981
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

982
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 2>We're talking with Keith Elkins, longtime sports cast here and

983
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>lexing in at WLX.

984
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 1>He worked lexing in Legends games.

985
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 2>For several years, a host of the sports Page podcast

986
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>for wuky dot org, and also you can hear and

987
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>see his work on YouTube. As he works high school

988
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>games for Black cod along with Sean Woods, who you

989
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>hear right here on my show every week. Anybody in

990
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the particular caught your eye in terms of the high

991
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>school kids, boys or girls this year. I know you

992
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>see a lot a lot of kids appear in front

993
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>of you, but has anybody jumped off the page at you?

994
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 7>Well?

995
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 9>I did get to see the Great Crossing team play

996
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 9>at Henry Cicky a couple of weeks ago, and of

997
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 9>course they have Malachai Moreno who is headed for UK

998
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 9>and it was really nice to get to see him play.

999
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 9>What an athlete he is. He's very smooth even in

1000
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 9>his high school years. He's a bit thin right now,

1001
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 9>but that's going to change, of course as he gets

1002
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 9>into a college program. And he looks like he just

1003
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 9>has all the skills you need. We didn't see too

1004
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 9>much of outside shooting like you do from the big

1005
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 9>men these days, but he can really get up and

1006
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 9>down the floor and handle the ball well. And he

1007
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 9>has a nice touch the free throw line, which would

1008
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 9>indicate that he could eventually increase his shooting range too.

1009
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 9>But they've got another guy, Vince Dawson, who hit the

1010
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 9>winning shot in the regional final last year, and I

1011
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.360
<v Speaker 9>believe he's headed for Morehead and what a terrific shooter

1012
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 9>he is. And he's about six five, but he seems

1013
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.440
<v Speaker 9>to have almost unlimited range out there. And that's probably

1014
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 9>been the most impressive team that I've seen. But it's

1015
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 9>fun to what's the local schools here too, seeing a

1016
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 9>lot of the Lexington schools. Bryan Station has a fun

1017
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 9>team to watch. They like to pressure the ball, get

1018
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.000
<v Speaker 9>up and down the floor, and score and Mario Owens

1019
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 9>is their standout player, their leading scorer. And it's just

1020
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 9>been getting back into the high school scene and you

1021
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.639
<v Speaker 9>forget about having seen you get to see such good

1022
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 9>athletes on a regular basis. And it's really been a

1023
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 9>lot of fun to do football and basketball with Glycott.

1024
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 9>And you mentioned working with Sean Woods on some of

1025
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 9>these games, and he really brings the energy to the broadcasts.

1026
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 9>And so whatever audience you're broadcasting to, Dick, as you

1027
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 9>well know, and I'm sure you could approach it this way.

1028
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.840
<v Speaker 9>You want to do your very best possible job. So

1029
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 9>it's been fun to work at this and try to

1030
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.679
<v Speaker 9>do the best job I can on the play by play.

1031
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 9>And it's still As we said earlier, it's nice to

1032
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 9>be active. It's nice to be doing some things, but

1033
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 9>maybe on a little more reduced schedule. But this high

1034
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 9>school thing has really been fun. We're looking forward to

1035
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 9>at tournament.

1036
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Time, Keith.

1037
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Recently there was a survey of media people here in

1038
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>town who voted the top high school players of all time,

1039
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 2>which is a fool's er and really because how do

1040
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>you compare eras? But it was kind of fun for

1041
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>me going back. You and I would go back essentially

1042
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the same amount of time. But you know, Jack Gibbins

1043
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>was voted the all time great player coming out of election,

1044
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>but just in the time you and I have covered

1045
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>election in high schools, I mean, I never got to

1046
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 2>see these great teams from the fifties and sixties play,

1047
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>but it is pretty incredible. And I don't know if

1048
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 2>UK set the tone or vice versa. You know, just

1049
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the incredible high school players that have come.

1050
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Out of this city.

1051
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 9>Oh yes, there have been just a great number of them.

1052
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 9>My time in lection goes back to the seventies, and

1053
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 9>of course during that time they were regularly playing high

1054
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 9>school games a Memorial Coliseum scheduling. Then it wasn't just

1055
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 9>like a last minute thing where suddenly somebody had a

1056
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 9>good recruit coming in or something and you moved it.

1057
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.119
<v Speaker 9>These were scheduled at the beginning of the year. It

1058
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.880
<v Speaker 9>would indicate on I'll say a Lafayette scheduled that Lafia

1059
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 9>would play Bryan Station at Memorial Coliseum, and so it

1060
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 9>was just a great era at that time. Dirk Minifield

1061
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 9>was probably the best that I covered during that time

1062
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 9>at nineteen seventy nine Lafayette team. For those old enough

1063
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 9>to remember those of a certain age, that's probably the

1064
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 9>best high school team I've seen in person. And I

1065
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 9>really enjoyed watching those guys play, and Dirk was the

1066
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 9>leader of that team, as you know. And then of

1067
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 9>course Jack Gibbons and James Lee were there at the

1068
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 9>same time at Jacket Bryan Station and James Henry Clay

1069
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 9>and there were some other great players around the city

1070
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 9>too at that time. So I guess maybe we have

1071
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 9>a tendency to go back to when we were young.

1072
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 9>But those guys that would certainly get a lot of

1073
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 9>the support from me if I were voting in that poll.

1074
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 9>But there have been some great ones down through the

1075
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 9>years that seemed to be a particularly good Ere.

1076
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that seventy nine team.

1077
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 2>And you know, they had some of us voters come

1078
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 2>together and they put a TV special together our discussions

1079
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>about the high of the kids that we all voted on.

1080
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Of course they had to edit it down.

1081
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 2>One of the comments I made that didn't make the

1082
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 2>show was I mentioned Minifield's Lafayette team, and I'd love

1083
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that team. I covered that season start to finish, and

1084
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 2>we probably I worked at WVOK at the time, probably

1085
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 2>broadcast a third to a half of their games when

1086
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you factor in the Sweet sixteen and the regional and

1087
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>district tournaments. But that, as you well know, that team

1088
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 2>saved the Sweet sixteen in my opinion, because it was

1089
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>the first the Sweet sixteen format as we know it,

1090
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>so the first time it was played in Rupp Arena,

1091
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 2>and as you know, the crowds really turned out. And

1092
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>then two years later when it rotated back with Vergie

1093
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and Mason County and those teams, I mean, it was

1094
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.960
<v Speaker 2>crazy the crowds. But that's seventy nine team with mister

1095
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Basketball who was going to Kentucky, sold a ton of

1096
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>tickets and it really I think revitalized the Kentucky State

1097
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Tournament because there were factions that won class basketball. You know,

1098
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the way they tore up the Indiana State championships. They

1099
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 2>ruined it in Indiana and they've tried to go back

1100
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to it and they can't. And now what I think,

1101
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and Delaware are the only states that have, you know,

1102
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the format where even the smaller school can jump up

1103
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and win, and that has happened. It happened with Lion

1104
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 2>County last year. But yeah, that was a that was

1105
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>a great moment, I thought, and a vital one in

1106
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the history of high school basketball.

1107
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 9>It was very important at that time because things were

1108
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 9>beginning to shift. And Indiana a few years later did

1109
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.400
<v Speaker 9>go to class basketball. And I don't talk to many

1110
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 9>fans anywhere near my age who like it at all.

1111
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 9>So I think they've lost they've lost something special. I

1112
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 9>grew up in southern Indiana, so I know what the

1113
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 9>tournament was like when I was growing up in our

1114
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 9>sectional time, which comparison to district here, that was just

1115
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 9>the community just stops to follow basketball. And so that's

1116
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.320
<v Speaker 9>just the way it was. But the tournament here, with

1117
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 9>the success of the and the attraction of that nineteen

1118
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 9>seventy nine Lofia team that really did, I think, keep

1119
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 9>things in place for a while. And it was it

1120
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:58.159
<v Speaker 9>was more than just a good team. It just seemed

1121
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 9>to be a team that you just couldn't you couldn't

1122
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 9>turn away from. Jock Sutherland was the coach, and yep,

1123
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 9>he was a character as we all know, and he

1124
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.840
<v Speaker 9>had his what do he called the jail house junk

1125
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 9>defense and it helps, you can call it whatever you want.

1126
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 9>When you got Dirk Winnifield and Junior Johnson and Tony

1127
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 9>Wilson to protect the rim, and they just had a

1128
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 9>great team full of great athletes. One of the reserves

1129
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 9>on that team was Jeff Parrott who went on to

1130
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 9>a long career in the Big League and yeah, it's

1131
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 9>for UK, but so they had some great athletes and

1132
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 9>it all came together for him that year and they

1133
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 9>played an important role in keeping the tournament where it

1134
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 9>is and the atmosphere at that time and the crowds

1135
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.559
<v Speaker 9>at rough I mean, it was just really something to

1136
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:38.760
<v Speaker 9>see and something to experience.

1137
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know, one of the teams that Lafayette had

1138
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 2>to get past, as you know, it was Brian's Station

1139
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>with Melvin Turpin, and they had more than just Melvine.

1140
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 1>They had kids who went on to play Leroy Byrd

1141
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 1>who played Contempt. He was on that team.

1142
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 2>So just imagine high school basketball back then. A couple

1143
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 2>of minutes left with Keith Dilkans, I did mention that

1144
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 2>you were the voice of the legends, and that is

1145
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.639
<v Speaker 2>a tough grind doing those minor league games, I know.

1146
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And now they're the legends again.

1147
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I got to think that when they were the counter

1148
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 2>clocks for a while, and that's that's part of I

1149
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 2>think some of the charm of minor league baseball's names

1150
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:14.400
<v Speaker 2>of change and merchandising and all that.

1151
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That was just pretty awkward, though.

1152
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 2>I got to think, you're you're relieved because you were

1153
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 2>a legend that they are the legends once again.

1154
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:27.760
<v Speaker 9>Oh absolutely yes. There are nicknames around the minor league

1155
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.800
<v Speaker 9>baseball like the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp and the and some

1156
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 9>of the others, some things called the sat Poodles, I think,

1157
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 9>and all sorts of odd names. It's part of it

1158
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 9>is part of as you say that the charm and

1159
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.920
<v Speaker 9>marketing of minor league baseball and minor league baseball's about

1160
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 9>the fans having fun. But sometimes, to borrow baseball metaphor,

1161
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 9>you swing and miss, and I think they swung and

1162
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.519
<v Speaker 9>missed with the with the counter clocks, and now back

1163
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 9>to the Legends is a good thing. They don't have

1164
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 9>the affiliation anymore, which which I kind of miss. I

1165
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 9>always enjoyed looking at on the field and thinking three

1166
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.400
<v Speaker 9>or four of these guys, whether it's the Legends or

1167
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.159
<v Speaker 9>their opponents, are going to be in the big league

1168
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 9>someday and we'll all enjoy watching them play. I mean,

1169
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 9>Bryce Harper hit his first professional home run at this ballpark,

1170
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 9>and so you have that kind of good working for

1171
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 9>you when you have an affiliation. So I do miss

1172
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 9>having an affiliation. But it's great that they're back, and

1173
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 9>great that they're the Legends again. I think that's a

1174
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 9>good thing.

1175
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hunter Pence came through here. There are a lot

1176
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.159
<v Speaker 1>of Jose l two V games through here. They're just

1177
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>it's all part of the fun.

1178
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1179
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 7>J D.

1180
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 9>Martinez is three hundredth home run in the major leagues

1181
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.239
<v Speaker 9>this past season, was a legend. You know, a few labor

1182
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 9>teammates in twenty ten.

1183
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Keith, thank you so much as always, and keep

1184
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.679
<v Speaker 2>an eye on w uky dot org. If you haven't

1185
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 2>heard the podcast, go back and listen to the archived episodes.

1186
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I promise you you'll find them entertaining. And I hope

1187
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to see you at a high school game soon.

1188
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 9>I'm sure we will meet up soon, Dick.

1189
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you up next, Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore, as

1190
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>we wrap up the week here on six thirty WLAP,

1191
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Big Boon Cider. It is Friday,

1192
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 2>but we were bumped Wednesday by Bashky Boo. So our

1193
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.760
<v Speaker 2>West End Burea Chief Gary Moore is joining us to

1194
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.679
<v Speaker 2>wrap up the week basically, and he is on the

1195
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>other end of sixty four.

1196
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>And I guess you had to throw another couple of

1197
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 1>logs on the fire.

1198
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:17.679
<v Speaker 10>That's a chili one out there, isn't it. Yeah, Buddy

1199
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 10>wind Child even in here, well, we got two guys

1200
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 10>in a six pack, you and me, and six things

1201
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 10>to talk about.

1202
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll lead off with the beauty of seeing spring.

1203
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:30.239
<v Speaker 10>Training return yesterday on an MLB network near you.

1204
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 1>And I was so into I was.

1205
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:37.119
<v Speaker 10>Just loaded with good vibes yesterday, Dick, until about the

1206
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:41.719
<v Speaker 10>second inning when former Louisville pitcher Bobby Miller, who's trying

1207
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 10>a comeback this year, took a comebacker off of his

1208
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 10>forehead at about one hundred and five miles an hour.

1209
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 10>And if you saw that, but man, you talk about it,

1210
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 10>that's always a scary scene, especially with somebody that you

1211
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 10>kind of know. And he got up. He's in concussion

1212
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 10>protocol right now, but man, that.

1213
00:59:57.480 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Was scary for a while.

1214
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 10>Anyway, It's good to see baseball back. Also, it was

1215
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 10>yesterday Dick was the debut of the automatic ball strike

1216
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 10>or ABS challenge system. We've talked about it before, now

1217
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 10>in the majors sort of. Now it's in the minor

1218
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:13.199
<v Speaker 10>league's Triple A teams have been using it for the

1219
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 10>last couple of years. Sixty percent of MLB spring training

1220
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 10>parks have this ABS, including the Dodgers obviously in Arizona.

1221
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.480
<v Speaker 10>It seemed to work okay the couple of times that

1222
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:25.039
<v Speaker 10>I saw it kind of reminds me of like if

1223
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.400
<v Speaker 10>you're watching Wimbledon or some of the tennis, you can

1224
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.599
<v Speaker 10>see when they challenge a ball being in or out.

1225
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 10>It's kind of the baseball version of that. It only

1226
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.440
<v Speaker 10>takes about ten to fifteen seconds to do it, so

1227
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:41.239
<v Speaker 10>it's done very very quickly. Dodger pitcher Landon Nax's seen

1228
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.159
<v Speaker 10>it himself the last couple of years being in the

1229
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:47.079
<v Speaker 10>minor leagues and said that it seems to be calibrated.

1230
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 10>The strike zone seems to be calibrated from park to park.

1231
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 10>In the minor leagues, that might be something to look at.

1232
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.239
<v Speaker 10>But you, being a former umpire, do you like this

1233
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 10>now coming into vogue in the majors.

1234
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, quite frankly, no, But I cannot defend and professional

1235
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 2>umpires anymore. My brother has been one for fifty he's

1236
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 2>been an umpire and filled in on the Triple A

1237
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>level at one point. No, I can't because simply because

1238
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the strike zones have become so wildly inconsistent.

1239
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they are not called per the rule book.

1240
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 2>If they were, I firmly believe that it would speed

1241
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 2>up the game, you know. But it's just incredible when

1242
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you see pitches that are, you know, two to six

1243
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.360
<v Speaker 2>inches off the plate called strikes. You cannot defend that,

1244
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.880
<v Speaker 2>even the guys at the highest level anymore so. And

1245
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of course, Gary, this is one door. When you go

1246
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.440
<v Speaker 2>through it, it's gonna slam shut. You're not gonna go back.

1247
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.280
<v Speaker 10>You get to Each team gets two challenges, and if

1248
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 10>you keep winning the challenges, you get to keep the challenge,

1249
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:48.840
<v Speaker 10>so it's not like you lose the challenge even if

1250
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 10>you win or lose. So yeah, but only two is good, right,

1251
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 10>so it's not overdone. Are a second swig in the

1252
01:01:55.559 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 10>six pack, also with the arrival of spring training, and

1253
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.559
<v Speaker 10>it's actually been the case all winter, incessant whining about

1254
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:08.480
<v Speaker 10>payroll disparity with the Dodgers world champion, Dodgers leading the way,

1255
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:13.639
<v Speaker 10>the Mets in second place so far in opening day payrolls,

1256
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.719
<v Speaker 10>Smaller market teams and their fans complain, well, we can't compete,

1257
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<v Speaker 10>even though every team is worth at least a billion dollars,

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01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 10>and others can spend the money however they want to

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01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.400
<v Speaker 10>spend it or not spend it. Last year, the Mets

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<v Speaker 10>had the biggest payroll on the opening day. Now, how

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01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 10>did that work out? And how soon people forget dick that? Arizona, Arizona.

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01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 10>The Diamondbacks got to the twenty twenty three World Series

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01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 10>with the twenty first highest payroll. But it's true eight

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<v Speaker 10>of the last ten World champions are top ten in payrolls.

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<v Speaker 10>Dodgers are paying about one hundred and sixty million in

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01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 10>luxury tax these this year, which is about the combined

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01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 10>total payrolls of the regular players for the White Sox

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<v Speaker 10>and the Marlins. But look, people want to see stars. Okay,

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01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 10>Dodgers are paying for stars. Team in Pittsburgh or Cleveland

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01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 10>or Cincinnati can get stars. That's what people come out

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01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 10>and want to see. And I give you the minor

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01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 10>league example of that. Whenever there's a minor league player,

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<v Speaker 10>or whenever the major league player going to the miners

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01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.800
<v Speaker 10>to rehab, whether it's a Kershaw or maybe a Joey

1275
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:17.920
<v Speaker 10>Vado here in Louisville, attendance goes up normally. Why Because

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01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 10>they're stars. People want to see stars, and you can

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01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 10>pay for them no matter what market that you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Look if the Kansas City Royals can jump up and

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01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 2>win the World Series, yep, it can happen. But it's

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01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:35.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to argue against the payroll driven teams. But you

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01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 2>know what the Dodgers also showed us is at least

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01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 2>for a while there last year you got to say healthy. Yeah,

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01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, so that's also a factor you got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad you brought up the Mets because and

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01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm really curious to see what they do this.

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01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Year with Juan Soto. Now, but you know, as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, money talks, but everybody has it. And because you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a smaller market, yes, you don't get as much

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<v Speaker 2>TV and radio revenue. We're going to talk about TV

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01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.760
<v Speaker 2>here in a minute. But your overhead isn't it tough either, right,

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01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 2>So it can't happen. But I think for the good

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01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:10.039
<v Speaker 2>of the game, a team like Cincinnati or Pittsburgh jumping

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01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 2>up and making a run would really help Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 10>And here's the thing about the luxury tax. Some of

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01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.679
<v Speaker 10>that money goes back to the small market exactly, and

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01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 10>how they want to spend it or put it in

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01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 10>their own pockets is up to them, right. But when

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01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:23.880
<v Speaker 10>the Dodgers are paying a big chunk of that because

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01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 10>oh there can't believe they're paying this guy so much money, well,

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01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:27.880
<v Speaker 10>some of that money maybe going back to your team

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01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 10>in luxury tax tax. Good wisely, yep, third swig in

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01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 10>the six pack for major League baseball. Let's go to

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01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 10>college baseball. This week, Mother Nature beat UK Louisville and

1304
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.360
<v Speaker 10>Western altogether. All three had to postpone or cancel games

1305
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.000
<v Speaker 10>because of well to step outside that weather that Canada

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01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 10>sent us some sort of payback for that fifty first

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01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:49.119
<v Speaker 10>state nonsense.

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01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>The number twenty three Cats, as we speaker in Nashville

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<v Speaker 10>for three with Belmont. Western was to play the first

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01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:56.960
<v Speaker 10>of three in Bowling Green with loafeyet the day, but

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01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.440
<v Speaker 10>they've kind of compressed those into tomorrow and so. And

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01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.960
<v Speaker 10>as for Louisville, same deal with Western Michigan Game one tomorrow,

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01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:06.559
<v Speaker 10>two on Sunday. The wrap up things on Monday. And

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01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 10>by the way, in case anybody missed it, Louisville unranked

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01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.119
<v Speaker 10>to open the season. They opened with a four to

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01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:16.320
<v Speaker 10>three win over number seven Texas we could go today.

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<v Speaker 10>Then they lost to number thirteen Oklahoma State twelve to three.

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01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 10>Then they whipped number twelve Arizona thirteen to one. Not

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01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 10>bad to come out of that weekend with a two

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01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.199
<v Speaker 10>to one record. It's too early, obviously to tell if

1322
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 10>he's turned things around, but we've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 10>Do not count out Dan McDonald and his staff.

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<v Speaker 2>No, those were big wins because for one thing, I

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01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 2>clearly they instill confidence, sure, you know, and I always

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01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.239
<v Speaker 2>go back to the first series Nick Minzione. Ever coached

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01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 2>as the headman at Kentucky when he took his team

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01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 2>to North Carolina, ranked tenth in the country, got swept,

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01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 2>but each game went to the ninth inning, and he

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01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.320
<v Speaker 2>spent forty five minutes after the third game explaining to

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01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 2>his players, guys, you can do this.

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01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 1>We're good. We have a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if McDonald needed that level of confidence building,

1334
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:08.719
<v Speaker 2>but he certainly has it at his disposal. The look

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01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:11.239
<v Speaker 2>he's the fifth all time winning his coach since he

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01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 2>arrived of active head coaches at u of L five

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01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 2>College World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, knows what he's doing. You know.

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01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they dipped last year, but don't be surprised if

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01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:24.000
<v Speaker 2>they come back now. You know, dollars are being spread

1341
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:29.000
<v Speaker 2>out in college baseball a bit more equitably now, and frankly,

1342
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 2>U of L had some advantages that other schools had

1343
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 2>for quite a while. But if anybody's going to figure

1344
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 2>it out, it's him, and I really look.

1345
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.719
<v Speaker 10>Forward to the UK versus u of L this year. Said

1346
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.519
<v Speaker 10>something I was just thinking about. I was thinking about

1347
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 10>the UFL players and their minds are thinking, hey, we

1348
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 10>can do this. Yeah, yeah, a number in front of

1349
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:49.239
<v Speaker 10>our name right now, we can do this.

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01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.519
<v Speaker 2>We just think that the other thing at UFL though,

1351
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.760
<v Speaker 2>is the guys there's you know, they're standing on the shoulders.

1352
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Of guys who have done it. Yep, just like the

1353
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:57.880
<v Speaker 1>UK players.

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01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 10>It's a great legacies there, all right, our fourth swig,

1355
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 10>we're talking college stuff. Let's talk college hoops, and let's

1356
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 10>dedicate one to the ladies.

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01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Dick.

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<v Speaker 10>Last night, number fourteen, UK wins at Missoo. Not an

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01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 10>easy thing to do, men or women. That's their second

1360
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.360
<v Speaker 10>road win and actually their second win in a row

1361
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 10>after they lost to in a row.

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01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Put it that way.

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<v Speaker 10>Number seven Luca's in town Sunday, Dick, Yeah, little miss

1364
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 10>Liberaci wardrobe. Number seven LSU. That's a four o'clock on

1365
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:35.880
<v Speaker 10>the ESPAD mothership. Also last night, number eleven, Duke goes

1366
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 10>down at Cameron Indoor. Unranked, but not for long. Louisville

1367
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 10>is now nineteen and seven after beating the Duchies. That's

1368
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.119
<v Speaker 10>two road wins in a row over ranked teams with

1369
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.559
<v Speaker 10>the cards who get number nine Cara, North Carolina here

1370
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 10>at the Youum Center two o'clock. That'll be on ESPN

1371
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:54.480
<v Speaker 10>just before UK and LSU. So you got your Sunday afternoon,

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01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 10>already scoped out for you. And on down I sixty

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01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:02.199
<v Speaker 10>five my WKU Lady Toppers eighteen and seven. They're third

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01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 10>in Conference USA. And did you know, Dick Gabriel, the

1375
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 10>third best scoring team in women's hoops is right here

1376
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 10>in the state of Kentucky. It's not UK, not Louisville Western,

1377
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 10>my hometown, Murray State Racers eighty seven eighty seven points,

1378
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 10>seven points per game behind Tennessee and number one Florida State.

1379
01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.239
<v Speaker 10>The Racers are seventeen and seven. They're third in the

1380
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 10>Missouri Valley Conference. They are coached by a former Murray

1381
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:34.600
<v Speaker 10>High alum. My high school alma mater, Rochelle Turner. Watch

1382
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.079
<v Speaker 10>out for them in the tournament. They will be there

1383
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 10>in March.

1384
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's great info.

1385
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Good for them, And it's not easy building a program,

1386
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:44.920
<v Speaker 2>as you know at Murray, you know, it's kind of

1387
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 2>out there.

1388
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 1>But they've had good baskets.

1389
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.239
<v Speaker 2>They've had great basketball, both men's and women's in the past.

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01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:52.439
<v Speaker 10>That was kind of a cool stat They just need

1391
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:57.479
<v Speaker 10>more support, as all of the women's teams do in basketball.

1392
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:02.520
<v Speaker 10>Now for the dudes, number seventeen UK, what Mark Pope

1393
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 10>has and you've talked about this, a brand new team

1394
01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 10>or less goes against the very pissed off number four Alabama.

1395
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 10>It's lost two in a row. Tomorrow night, six o'clock

1396
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 10>ESPN mothership Bama is fit to be their name after

1397
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 10>Miszoo rang up one hundred and ten on them on Wednesday.

1398
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And we know.

1399
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 10>Exactly about shootouts with these guys, especially at RUP. A

1400
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:26.079
<v Speaker 10>month ago, Cats lost by five at home against Bama, which,

1401
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.600
<v Speaker 10>by the way, shot fourteen more free throws, as you've

1402
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 10>mentioned than UK did in that game. Something to keep

1403
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.720
<v Speaker 10>an eye on tomorrow and upside, of course, the Cats

1404
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.319
<v Speaker 10>are five and two against teams with winning SEC records.

1405
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:41.199
<v Speaker 10>On the downside, Cats have only played seven games fully healthy.

1406
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 10>And so here's another one in it's gonna be against

1407
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 10>the number one scoring team in the country. And overhere

1408
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.439
<v Speaker 10>Dick number twenty five Louisvill'es had the whole week off.

1409
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 10>They'll face sixteen and ten Florida State high noon tomorrow,

1410
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:53.880
<v Speaker 10>Young Center c W Channel Cards are twenty and six

1411
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:56.800
<v Speaker 10>second in the ACC. They're winners of fourteen of their

1412
01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:00.239
<v Speaker 10>last fifteen. They just keep rolling. And speaking of the

1413
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 10>Cats and the Cards, and if.

1414
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 1>You've seen this you've talked about.

1415
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 10>The Vice Channel has two shows documenting Patino and Caliperie

1416
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 10>that are worth watching.

1417
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I know if you've seen them.

1418
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 10>I mean, there's nothing really edgy or controversial about them

1419
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 10>by design, by the thanks to the coaches, of course.

1420
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 10>But Rick's return to the Top ten glory with Saint

1421
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:22.920
<v Speaker 10>John's has been pretty interesting despite the differences in the

1422
01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 10>team's trajectories that you're seeing on TV. I kind of

1423
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 10>liked the Caliperi when better. The Razor's Edge is the

1424
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.279
<v Speaker 10>name of it because fewer cuss words are getting bleeped out,

1425
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 10>so already I like that. And the one really good

1426
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:43.760
<v Speaker 10>episode that just ran think the latest one with John.

1427
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.520
<v Speaker 10>It covered his return to rupp Arena. Yep, and all

1428
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:48.399
<v Speaker 10>the kids that are out front.

1429
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Well we're going to boom him. Yeah, we're gonna but

1430
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:51.760
<v Speaker 1>we can't wait to boo him.

1431
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 10>Hey, Junior, you were in Huggies when Cal was here,

1432
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:59.039
<v Speaker 10>saving the program that you're now a part of. Okay,

1433
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.359
<v Speaker 10>so how about a little spec for the Karmen next time?

1434
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, buddy, That's just not the way social media works now,

1435
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 2>does it. But you're right, you know, if you had

1436
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.760
<v Speaker 2>been here I think the people were saying, let's be civilized.

1437
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Are the people who were front and center when Kentucky

1438
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:19.399
<v Speaker 2>was the thing again in college basketball. I mean, you

1439
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:24.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about instantaneous. You remember how Kentucky went from irrelevance

1440
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.479
<v Speaker 2>under Gillispie to back to the top of the mountain,

1441
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.319
<v Speaker 2>not just trying to get there, the top of the mountain.

1442
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:34.359
<v Speaker 2>And Caliperry did it and it was fun. But yeah,

1443
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 2>the people who were doing the loudest, they weren't even

1444
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:37.560
<v Speaker 2>aware of that.

1445
01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.479
<v Speaker 1>And Rick did it too. Sure did took him a

1446
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 1>little longer, but not nearly as long as people thought

1447
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it might.

1448
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 10>No, even the first year was entertaining, that's true, because

1449
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.399
<v Speaker 10>he got him in condition and they shot threes. That

1450
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:51.840
<v Speaker 10>was one thirteen games, and we didn't think he'd wins

1451
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:55.159
<v Speaker 10>six final swig in the six pack. Just because a

1452
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 10>college coach gets a big paycheck doesn't mean they're mature,

1453
01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.840
<v Speaker 10>responsible men or women, Because with those megabucks comes a

1454
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 10>number of duties, one of which is doing those old

1455
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:10.520
<v Speaker 10>antiquated radio shows dick where they get paid and sometimes

1456
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.279
<v Speaker 10>get paid extra bucks to do them. Most are happy

1457
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:16.159
<v Speaker 10>to sing like canaries after when we know that, But

1458
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 10>after a tough loss when fans in the media really

1459
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.119
<v Speaker 10>want to know what went wrong and.

1460
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:21.000
<v Speaker 1>How are you going to fix it?

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<v Speaker 10>Some head coaches, as we know, send out an assistant

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01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:27.479
<v Speaker 10>or an assistance assistant. Cali Perry did it more times

1463
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 10>than I can count because I was bad at math Dick.

1464
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 10>But there's a couple of that come to mind. Well,

1465
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 10>last year after losing to that team from Knoxville at

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01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.680
<v Speaker 10>Rupp Arena, then you had that course he was Mia

1467
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.680
<v Speaker 10>after that loss to Saint Peter's three years ago, and

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01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.800
<v Speaker 10>of course there was the only questions from social media.

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01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Deal.

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01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 10>Of course that was a pre recorded show, so at

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01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 10>least he did one of those. But I bring this

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01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 10>up because up at Indiana, lame duck coach Mike Woodson

1473
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 10>has stopped all together doing post and pregame shows with

1474
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 10>their k wood lad for Don Fisher, even though Woodson's

1475
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 10>contract allegedly requires both. I say, if you don't want

1476
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.880
<v Speaker 10>to talk after a game, then don't take extra dollars.

1477
01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:10.439
<v Speaker 10>If you take the dough man up or woman up

1478
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:14.760
<v Speaker 10>speak when you lose, evolve, it's unfortunate. I'm glad you

1479
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:17.239
<v Speaker 10>brought the contract is because it used to work. This

1480
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:22.159
<v Speaker 10>way head coaches men and women would sign their contract

1481
01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:25.359
<v Speaker 10>with the school, then to sign a contract with the media, partners,

1482
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.800
<v Speaker 10>with the apparel companies, with the shoe companies, and they

1483
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:31.840
<v Speaker 10>get a variety of paychecks. Now it's all funneled into

1484
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 10>I'm talking about a Kentucky now, but I'm sure it

1485
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:34.399
<v Speaker 10>has other places.

1486
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It's all funneled into.

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01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:40.000
<v Speaker 2>One big pile, and they get one fat paycheck. So

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01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:42.439
<v Speaker 2>you can't hold them responsible. I can tell you this

1489
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:46.279
<v Speaker 2>for a fact, on more than one occasion, more than

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01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 2>one UK coach heard from Jim Host or whoever saying, look,

1491
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 2>don't do your show. That's fine, you don't get paid,

1492
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.479
<v Speaker 2>and it worked, trust me on that. Gary Morre is

1493
01:13:57.479 --> 01:13:59.119
<v Speaker 2>our West n barrel chief. We'll come back with a

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01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of hot reads for in just a minute here

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01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.399
<v Speaker 2>on the big bloon Sider six thirty wlap. Welcome back.

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01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.600
<v Speaker 2>We're talking with our West End beer chief, Gary Moore.

1497
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:08.800
<v Speaker 2>We have gone through two guys in a six pack.

1498
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Couple of hot reeds will throw at Gary. Hey them,

1499
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you New York Yankees finally are going to be allowed

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01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.760
<v Speaker 2>to wear beards. They have to be trimmed, you know,

1501
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 2>closely cropped or whatever. But they are relaxing a rule

1502
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that George Steinbrenner Big George big Stein instituted in nineteen

1503
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.520
<v Speaker 2>seventy six. Gary, they've been able to wear mustaches. I mean,

1504
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:35.640
<v Speaker 2>gidry without a mustache. Come on, David Wells had an

1505
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:40.239
<v Speaker 2>angry mustache. But now they can wear beards. That's gonna

1506
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:42.560
<v Speaker 2>help him win, isn't it. Goose gossage?

1507
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.960
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Thurman Munson, you can tell Thurman Munson you got

1508
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 10>a shave.

1509
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that.

1510
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeahdays, but they was back then it was stash only.

1511
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:55.039
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Well, Garrett Cole has worn a beard for a

1513
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:56.479
<v Speaker 10>long time until he got to the Yankee.

1514
01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.079
<v Speaker 1>So you gotta be comfortable play the game. It's not

1515
01:14:58.159 --> 01:14:58.560
<v Speaker 1>high school.

1516
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 10>Remember in high school, all the guys got their their

1517
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:02.199
<v Speaker 10>basketball haircuts, at.

1518
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Least at our high school did. Uh.

1519
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 10>So he didn't look like some kind of a hippie

1520
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:08.680
<v Speaker 10>running down with you know, he's got hair and a

1521
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:09.279
<v Speaker 10>shirt collar.

1522
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Get that, get that cleaned up. Who was the one

1523
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Phillies who has like a duck dynasty beard?

1524
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't never remember, but oh yeah, I'm not a

1525
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Phillies fan. So when everybody you know you saw him

1526
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. Like, wow, I can't imagine playing quote

1527
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.039
<v Speaker 2>unquote the summer game with that kind of hair. I mean,

1528
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>you remember, I had a beard for a long time,

1529
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.840
<v Speaker 2>but I kept it pretty close. But we had a

1530
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 2>guy on our adult league baseball team it's actually a hairdresser,

1531
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 2>had a big full I mean, dark hair, beard and

1532
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:38.680
<v Speaker 2>hair down to his shoulders.

1533
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Didn't bother him, and he was a hell of a hitter.

1534
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>M was it hot in the summer for you? Not really, buddy.

1535
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:47.840
<v Speaker 2>If you keep it clean, you know you're in good shape.

1536
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:50.439
<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for others, but that's where I was.

1537
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Our second hot read. Uh, this is probably going to

1538
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:57.199
<v Speaker 2>impact more people than beards. Major League Baseball in ESPN

1539
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.560
<v Speaker 2>are breaking up. I saw that rob Man and Fred

1540
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 2>has said that he thinks they're going to be better

1541
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:07.159
<v Speaker 2>off going elsewhere because apparently he's not pleased. And I'm

1542
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:09.680
<v Speaker 2>quoting with the quoting of the New York Post. Well,

1543
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the minimal coverage Major League Baseball has received on ESPN's platforms.

1544
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Over the past several years outside of actual.

1545
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Game coverage, so I guess they're not hearing enough about

1546
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:21.760
<v Speaker 2>baseball on Sports Center.

1547
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 10>I guess, well, they don't who baseball to night really anymore?

1548
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:27.600
<v Speaker 10>And must watch TV, And then they spent so much

1549
01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 10>money on NBA and football that this is just going

1550
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.159
<v Speaker 10>to kind of take a back seat. Plus MLB has

1551
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 10>kind of farmed out some stuff to like well Apple TV.

1552
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Well now they're going direct to consumer.

1553
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.079
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, I think I heard Comcast NBC with Peacock

1554
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:45.880
<v Speaker 10>might be a possibility on this.

1555
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that.

1556
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 10>The It just seems weird because ESPN has set has

1557
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.840
<v Speaker 10>been set well, he've been with him since nineteen ninety.

1558
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

1559
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you think losing Baseball Tonight, which baseball fans adored,

1560
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.319
<v Speaker 2>that you had to I guess that was the last straw?

1561
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:04.319
<v Speaker 10>Maybe, well, and then they kept watering down Sunday Night baseball.

1562
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1563
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.840
<v Speaker 10>I'm not a fan of Jessica Mendoza at Wardo Perez,

1564
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 10>so I miss Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan and John Miller

1565
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 10>were the best.

1566
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rest in peace, Joe Morgan. John Miller sensational, But

1567
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he represents one of the dumbest moves

1568
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.960
<v Speaker 2>ever made by a local team when the Orioles let

1569
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:25.600
<v Speaker 2>him walk and he.

1570
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Goes to the San Francisco Giants.

1571
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm a big fan of his, well, not

1572
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just for his impressions. ESPN is gonna slide college baseball

1573
01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:38.520
<v Speaker 2>into Sunday night into that time slot, which is great

1574
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:39.439
<v Speaker 2>for the college game.

1575
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Kentucky pops up.

1576
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that's going to be accepted, but

1577
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll be able to see.

1578
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:48.279
<v Speaker 1>A lot of good young talent. I watch it.

1579
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.960
<v Speaker 10>I have MLB, I have MLB Network, and I've got

1580
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 10>the the games on my phone as well.

1581
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with the program.

1582
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:56.039
<v Speaker 10>So there you go.

1583
01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>You gotta wonder about the.

1584
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:01.439
<v Speaker 2>College games if you're on the road and you're playing

1585
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:04.439
<v Speaker 2>a Sunday night game getting back for that Monday morning class.

1586
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that. He is Gary Moore.

1587
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 10>Follow him on Twitter and the X at at nine

1588
01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 10>five five, Gary, the same joint you're found at at

1589
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:13.279
<v Speaker 10>Big Blue Insider one.

1590
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Stay warm over there, my brother, Back at you, brother,

1591
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's going to do it.

1592
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Gary, Thanks to Derek Terry and Keith Ewcans.

1593
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 2>A reminder, Kentucky basketball tomorrow, the guys take on Alabama.

1594
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a six o'clock start on ESPN. We'll have it

1595
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:29.880
<v Speaker 2>for you with local coverage of three point thirty network

1596
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:32.479
<v Speaker 2>coverage four thirty Tom and Jack with a call for

1597
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you at six o'clock as the cats try to come

1598
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.720
<v Speaker 2>up with a big one over the Crimson Tie. Gonna

1599
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:40.960
<v Speaker 2>leave you now now with a movie or TV clip,

1600
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:44.279
<v Speaker 2>well with a little song about genealogy. This is a

1601
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:49.560
<v Speaker 2>tune from nineteen forty seven. To try to follow along.

1602
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 2>It's called I'm my own Grandpa. That's right, thanks so

1603
01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 2>much for joining us. Stay warm out there, everybody. That's it.

1604
01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Good night from the garage in the Lexington.

1605
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:04.159
<v Speaker 5>Many years ago, when I was twenty three, I was

1606
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:07.600
<v Speaker 5>married to the Winner, who was pretty asking me this

1607
01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.840
<v Speaker 5>switter had a grown up daughter, had hair of red.

1608
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 5>My father, Benny, love with her and were when this

1609
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:17.399
<v Speaker 5>made my dad a son in law and changed my

1610
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 5>very life. My daughter was my mother, No, she was

1611
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 5>my father's wife. To complicate the matter, even though it

1612
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.760
<v Speaker 5>brought me joy, I soon became the father of.

1613
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:29.199
<v Speaker 1>A fountain baby boy.

1614
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.800
<v Speaker 5>My little baby then became the brother in law to death,

1615
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:36.079
<v Speaker 5>and so became my uncle, though it made me very

1616
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.520
<v Speaker 5>sad or if he was my uncle, and also made

1617
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.520
<v Speaker 5>him brother all the Winner's growed up daughter, who of

1618
01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:50.920
<v Speaker 5>course was my stepmother. I'm out grandpa, He's his own dampall.

1619
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.079
<v Speaker 5>It's out funny. I know, Buddy really is a he

1620
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 5>had a grandpa.

1621
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:50.159
<v Speaker 8>Such seat, such stakes taking the show, anything, anything on

1622
01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:33.760
<v Speaker 8>such back stain. I think the thin tap. Then do

1623
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:39.520
<v Speaker 8>don't do