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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started the four o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 2>On game day on Saturday, we will get the pregame

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<v Speaker 2>show started at eleven o'clock. The Louisville Football Pregame Show

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<v Speaker 2>that ends, we will go live here for the Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>Football postgame Show presented by Alex R. White Sue Distracted

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<v Speaker 2>Driver dot Com. And I'm hopeful that we'll be reacting

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<v Speaker 2>to a win for Louisville. Obviously easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those games where you know you could

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<v Speaker 2>play well and even feel like you might have taken

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<v Speaker 2>a step forward as far as you know, cleaning things up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's still really what we're waiting on is them to

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, play winning football. And that's so vague

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<v Speaker 2>and generic, but I mean that's what it is, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just making you know, making winning plays instead of

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<v Speaker 2>making losing plays that eliminate a drive or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give the give the opponent a new set of downs

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<v Speaker 2>when they're on offense because you committed some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a silly penalty, right, you had the chance to get

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<v Speaker 2>off the field on third down and you know you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And there have been some calls throughout really the whole

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<v Speaker 2>season where you know, you feel like, hey, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad break, and it's because that was a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty call and we got the wrong end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that's not true, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>I get why fans are complaining about officiating.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really it doesn't even really hit the radar

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<v Speaker 2>for me, because it's no matter what fans are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>always talk about officiating and officials who are always gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make mistakes. It's one thing we don't ever bring up

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<v Speaker 2>when we talk about officiating and bad calls is that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody should be aware meeting fans, players coaches, referees themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna make mistakes, and I think most refs would

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, yeah, like we missed that one. Now, there

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<v Speaker 2>are some refs I think that their ego would get

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<v Speaker 2>in the way and they wouldn't acknowledge that.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're humans. They make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the reason officiating has been talked about

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<v Speaker 2>so much this year is two things. One, it does

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like there've been some you know, real

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<v Speaker 2>head scratching calls that didn't go your way in a

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<v Speaker 2>really big moment in the game. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>really big moment in the game, and you not getting

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<v Speaker 2>the call or it, you know, not going your way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it resulted in really the game being over

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Right if you don't, if you don't make

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<v Speaker 2>so many mistakes that are easily avoidable, you're not weeks

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<v Speaker 2>later talking about a call against Notre Dame when they

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<v Speaker 2>call pass interference on both sides or where the spot

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<v Speaker 2>was in that game, those kind of things, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or the fumble against SMU that I think was a

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<v Speaker 2>fumble and they somehow saw evidence that made it look

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<v Speaker 2>not like a fumble. So you know, I think there

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<v Speaker 2>were questionable calls against Georgia Tech too. In fact, when

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<v Speaker 2>they gave Brient Key that time out after the ball

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<v Speaker 2>had snapped over Haines King's head, I was losing my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife told me to calm down. I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>getting a divorce. I was pissed, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about it after the game because they won.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't really going to get a divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I can be a lunatic at times

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Louisville football, and you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>just a brief moment, I'm like, if she thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>was the right call and she wants me to calm down,

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<v Speaker 2>then she can get the hell out of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't tell her that, but I was thinking it

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<v Speaker 2>for just a second and then I calm down, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm I'm not always a lunatic. It just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I I flare up at times. All r let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>him in. He's Zach Barnett FootballScoop dot Com. He's he's

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<v Speaker 2>a lunatic for college football, right Zach.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Yeah, my my family, my kids, all it's an

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<v Speaker 4>event in my house now where they'll they'll go alert

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<v Speaker 4>the others when dad gets up out of his chair

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<v Speaker 4>to stand up to watch college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your kids will do the same thing when

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<v Speaker 2>they get older, right, I mean, it's it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>a way a lot, exactly exactly. And I and I

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<v Speaker 2>trust that you know, I trust that you out raising him,

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<v Speaker 2>right that from what I know of you, I'd assume

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<v Speaker 2>the kids are gonna are going to fall in line

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<v Speaker 2>and be lunatics about college football, just like the both

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<v Speaker 2>of us, and that'll be a good thing. But before

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<v Speaker 2>we dive in here, I got a few things I

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<v Speaker 2>want to run through with you before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 2>And we appreciate you as always making time for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have your attention this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it is on the radar for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously Miami is a team that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks think are in position to be one of those

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<v Speaker 2>that get to participate in the first ever expanded college

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<v Speaker 2>football playoff. A loss here wouldn't eliminate their ability to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But is this one of the games you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to seeing it all? You know, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>some games this year where I understand why you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it as you know, appointment viewing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we'll be doing radio. I'll be doing my radio

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<v Speaker 5>show during the first hour of the game, so we'll

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<v Speaker 5>have that on in the studio with one.

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<v Speaker 6>Eye on the game and one I one eye on the.

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<v Speaker 5>Task, and then I'll certainly be keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 5>it from from then on four. But it's also in

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<v Speaker 5>competition with Nebraska Indiana John Soosiers, that's right at the

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<v Speaker 5>same time slot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and hey, I mean who it's a wild

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<v Speaker 2>world we're in now where Indiana football is in a

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<v Speaker 2>game that people want to make sure they're watching. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's the Signetti effect. But when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 2>Miami team, you know, clearly cam Ward's a difference maker.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he hasn't finished his one season. He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there at Miami. But I think it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a real reminder that maybe the biggest reason why the

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<v Speaker 2>U hasn't at any point really been back to where

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<v Speaker 2>they once were many many, many years ago is because

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<v Speaker 2>they've had pretty subpar quarterback play. Cam Ward he's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pretty damn special, and I think it's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to have a guy that has some swagger and his

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<v Speaker 2>energy is infectious if he's if he's a defensive back,

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<v Speaker 2>or he's a running back, or he's a defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 2>that's causing.

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<v Speaker 3>Havoc in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>If your quarterback is that guy, it can make a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger impact than anybody else, I think, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing that with this Miami team. But are you

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<v Speaker 2>more inclined to look at their last two games as

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, they're really vulnerable vulnerable or is it more

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<v Speaker 2>so of like, wow, they could have easily lost and

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<v Speaker 2>now they're making winning plays where the old Miami wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have done that. I'm sure it's a little bit of both,

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<v Speaker 2>but just curious as to where you see they are

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<v Speaker 2>coming off a bye week where they again they're fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>to have those two victories they just had, not to

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<v Speaker 2>say they didn't earn it, but could have easily gone

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<v Speaker 2>a different direction in both those games.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in regards to cam Ward, you know, I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of quarterbacks in my day, as we all have,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've never seen one play with the coolness to

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<v Speaker 5>command the casual the casual ness that cam Ward does.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he's out there sometimes walking on the field

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<v Speaker 5>during the middle during live action so I have to

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<v Speaker 5>imagine that that is infectious to the rest of the team.

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean that's proven that they don't panic. They're

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<v Speaker 5>down thirty five to ten on the road in a

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<v Speaker 5>night game across the country and came back to win.

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<v Speaker 5>Usually teams, you know, we'll give everyone one game where

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<v Speaker 5>you don't come out and play your best and you

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<v Speaker 5>got to snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat,

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<v Speaker 5>as the saying goes. But when that happens twice in

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<v Speaker 5>a row, generally it's a sign that the defeats out

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<v Speaker 5>there waiting for you, and eventually he's gonna knock on

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<v Speaker 5>the door and walk his way in.

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<v Speaker 6>Does that happen Saturday?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that, but I actually picked to Miami

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<v Speaker 5>to go undefeated preseason, and now I have them losing

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<v Speaker 5>a game, because generally when you come that close to

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<v Speaker 5>losing twice, there's some real issues there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, eventually it's gonna bite you, And as a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville fan myself, I'm hoping it bites them this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff brom has it time. I mean not every year,

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<v Speaker 2>but more often than not when he's been a head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>he has found a big opportunity in the month of

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<v Speaker 2>October and taking advantage of it to get a real

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<v Speaker 2>Marque win, and Louisville needs it. I mean a loss here. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the expectation when it comes to point spreads, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be a bad loss, but when you already

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<v Speaker 2>have two, this is one that you really need if

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<v Speaker 2>you're Louisville and you want to continue to at least,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, monitor the acc standings and potentially see yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with a shot to maybe get to Charlotte again. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Louisville having to play both Miami and Clemson is

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<v Speaker 2>not ideal with them already having one loss in league play.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if there was ever a moment to

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<v Speaker 2>get it turned around, it would certainly be certainly be

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<v Speaker 2>this Saturday. But Zach Barnette is our guest joining us

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<v Speaker 2>here talking to some college football on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>He covers college football for FootballScoop dot com. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the things act that you put out there earlier today

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<v Speaker 2>was the most watched games of the college football season

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<v Speaker 2>thus far, the twenty five most watched games. Before you

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<v Speaker 2>had those numbers in front of you, you know, was

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<v Speaker 2>there I guess the better way to frame the question is,

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<v Speaker 2>was there any real big surprise as far as which

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<v Speaker 2>games maybe got more viewers than you would have expected

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<v Speaker 2>or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I mean, I think generally it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The same teams.

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<v Speaker 8>They dominate viewership, right, Yeah, I think the depth of

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<v Speaker 8>the SEC's dominance was once you kind of see the

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<v Speaker 8>numbers in front of you, it kind of puts.

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<v Speaker 6>The picture in the frame, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 5>Because last year, I mean, the SEC was the most

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<v Speaker 5>watched conference, but it was the viewership was a lot

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<v Speaker 5>much more spread out last year than it is this year.

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<v Speaker 5>And even I believe compared to years past, the PAC

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<v Speaker 5>twelve was a widely watched conference and then we out

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<v Speaker 5>We also had the Dion effect that it's certainly still

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<v Speaker 5>there but has worn off quite a bit. It was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a one time deal last September. Now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's the SEC in the Big.

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<v Speaker 7>Ten's world, and everyone else is just just living in it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>There's I believe two accuh only games involved in in

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<v Speaker 5>which is fun to watch in the at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>and certainly Drew drew An audience Florida State's downfall, but

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't it wouldn't it be even worse if those

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State games weren't in like standalone prime time spots

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<v Speaker 2>Like I found myself and this is just the pessimist

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<v Speaker 2>in me zact, but like as somebody who knows this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff matters, people can like, you know, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't really care as a fan, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to the domination by the two

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<v Speaker 2>if Florida State it's playing Boston College or Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not in those spots, like I think you'd

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<v Speaker 5>which is traditionally an event within the ACC, and I

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<v Speaker 5>that was one of those games and.

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<v Speaker 6>They went by without a blip.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't even get two million viewers I believe, and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously Florida State's not what they not what they were

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<v Speaker 5>last season. But at the same time, if the everyone's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna say, well the SEC ABC is in the tank

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<v Speaker 5>for the SEC, well there's SEC games going on in

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<v Speaker 5>the in the eleven AM tire the noon time slot

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<v Speaker 5>this coming week. But Miami Louisville got the time slot

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<v Speaker 5>because Disney believes that that's going to draw the most

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<v Speaker 5>viewers in that time slot. So it is to a

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<v Speaker 5>point true that the ESPN is in the tank for

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<v Speaker 5>the SEC, but ESPN is mostly in the tank for itself,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're going to pump up the games they think

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to draw the most eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those who haven't seen the breakdown again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>over at FootballScoop dot com. But when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the appearances when it comes to the league's no surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean domination by the SEC with twenty eight appearances

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<v Speaker 2>in the top twenty five, twelve for the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 2>six for the ACC, two for the Big twelve, the

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve. Again, I mean, I guess I hadn't really

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<v Speaker 2>given it much thought out of side, out of mind,

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<v Speaker 2>but they really the biggest issue for them is they

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<v Speaker 2>going to generate much of a following outside of its

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<v Speaker 2>own fan base. And you could say the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>about the ACC overall, and it'll certainly be that way

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<v Speaker 2>if some of these teams don't get better. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm a Big twelve fan like this because again

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, I mean, look, if you go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and win, that's great, and if you're a fan, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all you probably really care about. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to this survival of you know, you've got one Power

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<v Speaker 2>five league that is no more. We can call the

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<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve whatever they want to call it, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not what it once was. Like viewership and how much

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how much how many people you reach, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the ultimate thing that it comes down to, right

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to conference re alignment and really getting

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<v Speaker 2>a big, big revenue deal for your league, right if

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<v Speaker 2>people are watching, that gives you a chance to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the table and get get more money on

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<v Speaker 2>your next reup. But I think if you're the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>and the Big twelve and you're looking to potentially close

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<v Speaker 2>this gap, so far this year numbers don't necessarily look

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<v Speaker 2>as if you're going to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Big twelve saving grace is that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>have a behemous fan base a great team like they've

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<v Speaker 5>smaller engaged fan bases and a bunch of competitive teams.

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<v Speaker 5>So whereas the September October might not ever be great

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<v Speaker 5>from a viewership standpoint, with these new twelve team playoffs,

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<v Speaker 5>there's gonna be a bunch of games every November. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna go in with half the conference seemingly.

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<v Speaker 7>In the hunt for the Big Twelve championship games.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're gonna have a lot of Big Twelve games

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<v Speaker 5>that are material to the conference championship race. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be true for every conference, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be more true for the Big Twelve, given that

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<v Speaker 5>the floor and the ceiling of the conference are.

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<v Speaker 7>Closer together than they are in any other conference.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, one more question for you, Zach, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't know how much you've if you've even

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<v Speaker 2>seen this or followed it at all. In fact, even

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<v Speaker 2>before this came out today from the USA today, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably would have a good idea as far as how

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<v Speaker 2>this breaks down. As far as the highest paid coaches

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<v Speaker 2>in college football, Kirby Smart has created some separation between

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<v Speaker 2>him and everybody else. He's making thirteen million, Dabbo eleven

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<v Speaker 2>point one, Sark ten point six, and Lincoln Ryley just

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<v Speaker 2>over ten, Ryan Day just over ten, Mike Norvell at

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<v Speaker 2>ten million a year. Same thing with with Kaylen nevorr.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a lot of these coaches in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 2>many of them are struggling, or at least you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason they're making a lot of money at these

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<v Speaker 2>schools is because they're expected to have really, really good results.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Mike Norvell, it's been a disaster. Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Day just lost another game against a good team, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's supposed to win those games. He's at

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, Lincoln Riley at USC. I mean, they're nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>near what they thought they were getting with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Dabo. You know, they've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing really good football, but obviously it's been a talking

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<v Speaker 2>point for the last couple of years that he's not

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<v Speaker 2>really adjusted to this new world of college football. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess my question here is of these coaches that are

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<v Speaker 2>Are any of these guys legitimately, you know, in danger

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<v Speaker 2>of losing their job anytime soon. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine they have pretty hefty buyouts, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just feel like looking at this list,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of reminded me that there's coaches that we

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<v Speaker 2>thought were going to be, you know, next up, that

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<v Speaker 2>really have delivered. And then it also is just a

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<v Speaker 2>reminder that, you know, I'm not really sure how, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how I would rank the best coaches in the sport

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean we're we've kind of been having this

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<v Speaker 5>conversation in a different way here in Dallas with Dak

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<v Speaker 5>ps Dak Prescott's contract and now he's getting sixty million

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<v Speaker 5>dollars a year or whatever it is, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the number itself is eye popping, but it's his turn,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not necessarily a reflection of his quality.

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<v Speaker 6>It's what's the.

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<v Speaker 5>Market at when he gets a turn to uh, reset

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<v Speaker 7>And at the same time, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>The number is bigger, but the impact on the cap

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't necessarily change. And it's also not going to turn

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<v Speaker 5>him into a different quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, it's kind of the same.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of what you need in Dallas, right, we

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<v Speaker 3>need a new order. Yeah that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, let's just say South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 6>Is going to go hire a new coach before too long.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna pay that guy probably seven eight million a

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<v Speaker 5>year to keep him to stay what competitive with with

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<v Speaker 5>the with the Clemson in Georgia and every all of

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<v Speaker 5>their neighbors. But that just because they're paying whoever that

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<v Speaker 5>that guy is, that doesn't necessarily make him the tenth

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<v Speaker 5>best coach in college football or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of it's timing and what the market

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<v Speaker 2>is and all that. Yeah, I lied one more question,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's this is kind of piggybacking off of what

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing here as far as what these coaches are

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<v Speaker 2>making annually. I don't say this to troll Kentucky fans,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure they're going to hear it and think that,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, when you look at Mark Stoops making

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<v Speaker 2>over nine million a year, making more than Lane Kiffin,

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<v Speaker 2>more than Josh Heipel, I mean, he doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>best job in the country, but maybe he has the

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<v Speaker 2>best situation. No, because he I mean, he's making over

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<v Speaker 2>nine million a year and if he kind of stays

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<v Speaker 2>the same where they're, you know, not the worst team

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<v Speaker 2>in the SEC. They go to bowl games, you know, regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, I just feel like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>find many coaches that don't have to do Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>not nearly the pressure on him to make that nine

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<v Speaker 2>million and get results like there is all the other coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't think it's crazy to say that

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<v Speaker 2>he is one of the best situations you'll find in

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<v Speaker 2>college football.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you watch Game of Thrones? No?

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like a loser anytime I have to

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<v Speaker 2>answer that question because I love television and I talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about it, But it's the that and ted

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<v Speaker 2>Lasso are the two shows that I've yet to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a single person tell me that they don't love and

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<v Speaker 2>yet I still haven't gotten around to watching him yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Well there's a this is this example I'm gonna use.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't he actually in the show as a deleted seed,

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<v Speaker 5>but Grand Master Paisel, who's just one of the palace

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<v Speaker 5>attendance to the actual powerful people in the show, is

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<v Speaker 5>having a conversation with Tywan Manister who's the most powerful

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<v Speaker 5>person in the show, and they're just kind of getting

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<v Speaker 5>into his whole bit and everything, and he kind of

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<v Speaker 5>plays up how old he is and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>and it kind of boils down to, look, I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to be involved in the game. I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to be there. I don't want to be the most

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<v Speaker 5>powerful person. I just want to be be around. And

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<v Speaker 5>his the metaphor he uses the the tallest flower eventually

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<v Speaker 5>gets picked and I just want to stay in the garden.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's kind of Mark stoops, Like he's gotten so

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<v Speaker 5>much praise that so many people would believe he's.

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<v Speaker 6>A college football Hall of Famer. Uh, and I would

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the numbers in front of me, but

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<v Speaker 5>I bet you his career winning percentage is somewhere in there,

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<v Speaker 5>in the range of six hundred.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's never gonna sniff a Contage championship.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's he's played the business side of it very smart,

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<v Speaker 5>and that he's constantly he's reset the expectations at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 5>and then and then stayed there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 7>But there's a lot of guys who could win as.

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<v Speaker 6>Many games at Kentucky as Mark Stewkes says.

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<v Speaker 5>Like he's he's better than Joker Phillips. There, there's no

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<v Speaker 5>denying that. But there's a bunch of guys out there

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<v Speaker 5>that could do what he's doing at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think their fans, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of them are starting to realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>that would pay him somewhere close to what he's making now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see that happening or him just deciding

423
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<v Speaker 2>to walk away. But who's walking away from nine million dollars?

424
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you'd have to really just want to do

425
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<v Speaker 2>something different and be very well off financially to just

426
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<v Speaker 2>walk away from a nine million dollar a year deal.

427
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think what you just said is what

428
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<v Speaker 2>I think most Kentucky fans have started to realize this

429
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<v Speaker 2>year with some of their head scratching losses, that you

430
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<v Speaker 2>know what, like, this guy's done a good job, he's

431
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<v Speaker 2>changed the standard, and we appreciate all that he's done,

432
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<v Speaker 2>but for nine million, you could go get somebody to

433
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<v Speaker 2>probably give you very similar results and do it for

434
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<v Speaker 2>a lot less, but as a Louisville fan, I've you know,

435
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<v Speaker 2>I've enjoyed seeing them lose to Vandy and to I'm

436
00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna take it. I'm gonna take satisfaction in them losing

437
00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.079
<v Speaker 2>these games because I still worry about when Louisvill plays

438
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<v Speaker 2>him at the end of the year. But anyways, I'll

439
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<v Speaker 2>quit rambling.

440
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<v Speaker 7>Zach.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you making time as always. Enjoy another great

442
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<v Speaker 2>weekend of college football, and we'll.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Talk to you soon, brother, Some good things, all right.

444
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<v Speaker 2>That's Zach Barnett FootballScoop dot Com. You know, he said

445
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<v Speaker 2>what I think A lot of his colleagues that cover

446
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<v Speaker 2>college football nationally have hesitated to say that, Yeah, Mark

447
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<v Speaker 2>Shuss has done a good job at Kentucky for Kentucky,

448
00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:16.440
<v Speaker 2>but you could get many to be able to kind

449
00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:19.559
<v Speaker 2>of give you really the same, the same thing, and

450
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:21.839
<v Speaker 2>he is. I mean, every year there's an annual list

451
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<v Speaker 2>of the top coaches in college football, and for a

452
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<v Speaker 2>while he's fallen in the top twenty, sometimes top fifteen,

453
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<v Speaker 2>depending on where you look. And I mean it's it's just,

454
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<v Speaker 2>you know, whoever's putting that list together, it's just their opinion.

455
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<v Speaker 7>But like.

456
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<v Speaker 2>It's just because he's manipulated that Kentucky sucked for so

457
00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.839
<v Speaker 2>long and now he's been average for the most part,

458
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<v Speaker 2>and yet it just looks like it's way more impressive

459
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<v Speaker 2>than it actually is. But anyways, quick break, we'll come

460
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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along

461
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462
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468
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<v Speaker 2>This text came in a little bit earlier. We were

469
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<v Speaker 2>talking about the.

470
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<v Speaker 3>The Patino thing.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we weren't really getting into it, but I

472
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<v Speaker 2>did mention what you guys probably already knew, and that

473
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<v Speaker 2>was that since Rick talked about Louisville during his appearance

474
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<v Speaker 2>at the Kentucky football game on Saturday and said that

475
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<v Speaker 2>he's never had an invite back, but he loves his

476
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<v Speaker 2>players and the fans, that has now been you know,

477
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:38.279
<v Speaker 2>has been shot down because I mean, that's just Rick,

478
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<v Speaker 2>not being real smart, or he has a bad memory,

479
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<v Speaker 2>maybe because he's really old.

480
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

481
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<v Speaker 2>But if in fact, you know that you have been

482
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<v Speaker 2>invited back, not just by your former players who wanted

483
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<v Speaker 2>you to come to the TBT or come to you know,

484
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>just come back to Louisville whenever they're getting together. And

485
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<v Speaker 2>then you know to hear that the university. I don't

486
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<v Speaker 2>know who it was, if it was the new president

487
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>or if it was Josh, I don't know, but it

488
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<v Speaker 2>sounds like he was invited to come back when they

489
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<v Speaker 2>honored the twenty thirteen team on the ten year anniversary,

490
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<v Speaker 2>and he just chose not to so he didn't have

491
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<v Speaker 2>to write He's not like, it's not as if he

492
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<v Speaker 2>has to come back here. I mean, it's his choice,

493
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.720
<v Speaker 2>but to lie and say that you've never been invited back,

494
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:22.279
<v Speaker 2>like he got caught in the lie and it really

495
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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a big surprise.

496
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<v Speaker 3>But a couple of people have.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Texted in kind of saying that that now that this

498
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<v Speaker 2>is out there, this should be the old if it

499
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't already, it should be the ultimate, Like, hey, the

500
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>hell with this guy? And if you already feel that way,

501
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.279
<v Speaker 2>that's cool. If you're somebody that still just doesn't care

502
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>because you appreciate that he did kind of revive the

503
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<v Speaker 2>program at a time that it was needed in a

504
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<v Speaker 2>major way. And you know, I kind of feel like

505
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 2>this has been a reminder of the different eras of fans,

506
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:54.519
<v Speaker 2>meaning like really just age difference, you know, like I mean,

507
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>those that are older than me are well aware that,

508
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<v Speaker 2>Like when Rick came back, that was huge for Louisville

509
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 2>because we lost momentum and relevance nationally just because in

510
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the nineties Denny had some good teams, but it was

511
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>nowhere near what it was in the eighties. And you know,

512
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<v Speaker 2>Rick was fresh off of a failed stint with the Celtics.

513
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<v Speaker 2>But when he had left the college game just a

514
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Speaker 2>few years before that, when he was at Kentucky, he

515
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<v Speaker 2>was a rock star in a way that I'm not

516
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<v Speaker 2>really sure. I mean, I can't remember. And again I

517
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was young at the time. But when Rick became, you know,

518
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a big, big name, not just in college.

519
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Troops but in sports like that was a big deal

520
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 3>and it helped that.

521
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<v Speaker 2>You know, he'd been a coach with the Knicks and

522
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<v Speaker 2>was successful there, and then they decided to get rid

523
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<v Speaker 2>of him. For you know, silly reasons it seemed. So

524
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think there are sort of different generations

525
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<v Speaker 2>here that probably view this differently, And I think depending

526
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<v Speaker 2>upon the circumstance, meaning like the age range in the

527
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>the era that you kind of like were introduced to Rick,

528
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 2>rather it be at Kentucky, rather it be at Louisville.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Like I can, I can see everybody's perspective here, and

530
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<v Speaker 2>I can see why some feel differently than others. In fact,

531
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, and everybody can you know, you

532
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have to feel a certain way because you're this.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Age range or you're that age range.

534
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I do get why the older fans

535
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>aren't as much bothered by it because they lived and

536
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>experienced Rick coaching at Kentucky and they do understand that

537
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like that is a place that would be special to him.

538
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<v Speaker 2>But if you're somebody that only knows Louisville basketball when

539
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you're a kid and being Rick Patino as the coach,

540
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and even if you knew that he was previously a

541
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky you never lived to see it, you didn't experience it,

542
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Like I can see why just seeing him in that.

543
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Blue would be would be tough for you, But yeah.

544
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I still think eventually he'll come back, but

545
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<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know, I don't know when that is.

546
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope, I kind of hope it's not soon, you know,

547
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 2>because I'm hopeful that Pat Kelsey gets off to a

548
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty good start, and like nobody's thinking about any other

549
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>coach that coached here, and that could happen, right I mean,

550
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I think right now, obviously there's a lot of momentum

551
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>for Pat and there's a lot of belief from the

552
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>fan base that this thing is going to get turned around.

553
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how quickly that will happen, but you know,

554
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 2>if this thing is successful, and I guess everybody's way

555
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>of viewing it as a success could be different. But

556
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>we know what happens around here when we've got good

557
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 2>basketball to watch, When the product's good, the results are there,

558
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you feel as if you can compete at a really

559
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 2>high level. I mean, that's where you want to be

560
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's where you can be. And now we just

561
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see if and when that does happen.

562
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<v Speaker 2>But as far as being able to like realistically feel

563
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<v Speaker 2>good about it, we're already there. And I think a

564
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of us had a couple of years where you

565
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>tried to convince yourself that maybe you could get there,

566
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>but it just you know, it wasn't it wasn't realistic

567
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 2>with the previous regime. And now we wait and see

568
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 2>if this new staff, this new era gets us back

569
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<v Speaker 2>to where we want to be. All right, So let's

570
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<v Speaker 2>talk about the team photo, and I I kind of feel,

571
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I don't even need to bring it

572
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 2>up because it you know, it's not a good look.

573
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a good look for U of L yesterday,

574
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and it really is a silly thing that was created

575
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>just by trolls from our from you know, the rivalry

576
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans on the internet and you know KSR having

577
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>fun with it because that's that's what a you know,

578
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>that's what a rivalry is. But for those who missed

579
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>my comments on it in the three o'clock hour, I

580
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 2>guess I'll resettle overall here. There was a picture yesterday

581
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<v Speaker 2>taken before they were actually taking the team photo, before

582
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the team photographer, the you you know, somebody the photographer

583
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 2>who works for UL Athletics, before they got the flash

584
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>set up and all the lighting and took a real

585
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>professional photo the guys were just kind of sitting there

586
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>waiting to eventually have their picture taken and be told, hey, everybody,

587
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<v Speaker 2>look on the counter of three, I'm going to snap

588
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>this picture. So those covering media Day, Matt mcgavick was

589
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>the one who snapped the picture and posted up on Twitter,

590
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and of course it had a quarter of a million

591
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 2>views within twenty four hours. And everybody's making fun of

592
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the facial expressions, the look on their face, the body language.

593
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just it was not a flattering look

594
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<v Speaker 2>in any way. And it's understandable because again, like they

595
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>weren't they weren't they didn't know they were getting their

596
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 2>picture taken. I mean, maybe they should have been a

597
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>little more aware, but I'm not gonna blame any of

598
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 2>these guys who were just sitting there getting ready to

599
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have their picture taken. But it kind of became, you know,

600
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>it was, hey, look, Louisville fans on you know, even

601
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>those that you know are often times, you know, in

602
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>the trenches, if you will, on the toxic wasteland that

603
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>is Twitter, battling with Kentucky fans over the rivalry. Like

604
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>even some of those people were like, man, come on,

605
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 2>like like why did somebody share this picture? Like who

606
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>would look at this and think, hey, let's put this

607
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>on the internet for everybody to dissect and let's be

608
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>aware of the rival and know how they can be

609
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to things like this. But I'm gonna

610
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>defend Matt mcgavick because he's one of many people that

611
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 2>took a picture yesterday, but his is the one that

612
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 2>ended up, I think, being the least flattering and being

613
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the one that you know, went viral. And I can

614
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<v Speaker 2>appreciate some awareness here from the U OFL men's basketball

615
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Twitter kind I'm not sure who runs that, but it

616
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>said the actual twenty twenty four twenty five Louisville men's

617
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>basketball team photo and it looks a lot better. I mean,

618
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it's again, it's I'm sure many of you have had

619
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>your picture taken without knowing and you look at it

620
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and you think, delete that right now. You m effort like,

621
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<v Speaker 2>what the hell was that? My facial expression's way off.

622
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 2>I look ridiculous, And that's kind of what this turned into.

623
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't have a strong reaction to

624
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 2>it other than just knowing that like I don't, I

625
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I think if Matt looked at it

626
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and thought about it. He might not have posted it,

627
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>but I get why he didn't because most people wouldn't

628
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>like analyze the facial expressions and the body language of

629
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>every single person when you're taking a picture of you know,

630
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<v Speaker 2>sixteen people sitting down. But we have had a few

631
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<v Speaker 2>moments in the last I don't know, maybe it's been

632
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>longer than the last couple of months. But putting out

633
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the clip from Jeff Bram's radio show of him making

634
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a tongue in cheek comment that was a non second

635
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>clip about the officiating in the Governor's Cup game. He

636
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't blaming the officials, but you know what, to put

637
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>that out there, all it did was give the rival

638
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to claim that Jeff Brom is blaming officiating

639
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 2>for why Louisville lost to Kentucky last year, which Jeff

640
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't do that. That really wasn't what it was. But like,

641
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>you gave the rival ammunition to just clown you. And

642
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 2>you can say you don't care, but you do. Some

643
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>people don't, some care more than others. But like, that's

644
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>what makes this rivalry great. It's just the constant back

645
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 2>and forth between both sides. And then there was another

646
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Twitter account, State of Louisville, and I believe that whoever

647
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>runs that account, Like as far as the Twitter account,

648
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I think there's multiple people that are affiliated, but I

649
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>think they are big louisvill fans and they care about

650
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>U of L and they wouldn't never do anything to

651
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>try to like make them look bad. But you know,

652
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>listing all of the events going on on a Saturday,

653
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 2>including you know, a Bats game, night, racing at slugger,

654
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 2>kids soccer games, and little league football. Like again, I

655
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 2>think you were coming from a good spot, but all

656
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>it did was hand a weapon too the rival and

657
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 2>be like these losers are gonna have anybody at their

658
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>game because they're gonna go to the Bats game and

659
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>participate in Star Wars night like you know, Like maybe

660
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>again you can say you don't care, and again I

661
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 2>think all this is just what the rivalry is and

662
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>nobody's got it. But like I would advise those to

663
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 2>be a little more, just a little bit more mindful

664
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<v Speaker 2>of like, Okay, how can this be perceived even if

665
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't mean for it to be taken in a

666
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>certain direction, Just be a little you know, cause again

667
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't just UK fans like that. Make sure

668
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>yesterday on Twitter was being shared by I mean, Trilly Donovan, who,

669
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. Is there a guy with more juice

670
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>right now when it comes to covering college basketball and

671
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 2>reaching college basketball fans than Trilly?

672
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:13.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

673
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 2>And he's sharing it making fun a louisval. I mean,

674
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just one of those things that even

675
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>if you can just claim it's nonsense on the internet

676
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>trolls being trolls, you still would prefer not to have

677
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 2>it out there for people to just make fun of.

678
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But I will defend Mat mcavit because I don't think,

679
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, there was any intent there at all, and

680
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>he did later delete it, and that's one question I

681
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 2>would ask Matt. Maybe I will ask him, like it's

682
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>one thing to delete it, you know, right away. It's

683
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>another thing to delete it when the damage has already done.

684
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>But maybe he was asked to delete it by somebody

685
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>at uve L. I don't know, and you know they

686
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't and they shouldn't, but it is nice to

687
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>at least, you know, kind of be in the in

688
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the in the weeds again with with you know, the

689
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>other side of this rivalry, Like, I don't think any

690
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of us In fact, here's something none of us know

691
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>how how either coach is going to work out, right,

692
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey or Mark Pope, But we are kind of

693
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>both starting in a relatively similar spot as far as

694
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>like how good the teams could be. Now, maybe we're wrong.

695
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Kentucky ends up being way better than Louisville this year.

696
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Louisille ends up being way better than them. None

697
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>of us really know, and we can guess, and that's fine.

698
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That's what you do, right, That's all you can do

699
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>until you actually get results. But for it to be

700
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>new for both sides, you know, it's you know, it's

701
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 2>better than than than where it was in recent years

702
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 2>where we had a really good coach for a while,

703
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>but he couldn't beat Calip Perry and that was Rick

704
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't beat him very often. And then you know you

705
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>had the whole Mac thing, and you know he did

706
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 2>beat him once in the what two three times they played,

707
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it was. And then with Kenny, like it

708
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 2>was just weird, Like the rivalry will never be more

709
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 2>weird than it was with Kenny here because when we

710
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>were so lifeless, when we played anybody, let alone our rival,

711
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and yet we knew that the guy that was here

712
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like loved Kentucky seemingly more than he loved us, Which, you.

713
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Know what, the biggest moment in the rivalry during the

714
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kiny Paign era was your rant last year about the redout.

715
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't I would like it.

716
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

717
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably be uncomfortable if I heard that, but you know,

718
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>but I mean I meant it.

719
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was it was.

720
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>It was genuinely something that I you know, I felt

721
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>was you know, avoidable. All right, we got a lot

722
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 2>of I mean, I think that wasn't that announced, Like

723
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the day we had three different press releases about what

724
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 2>the hell's going on with Karan Davis?

725
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Remember that whole mess that day? That was the day

726
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 3>because you had.

727
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>The Koran Davis Shenanigans, that whole circus. You had the

728
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>announcement of a redout whenever, Like it was quite clear

729
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 2>that when this game takes place in a week, there's

730
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be more blue than red. Let's not give

731
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>them an invitation to start monitoring the crowd to see

732
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 2>how our redout is going. And then you turned around

733
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that night and lost to Arkansas State and insane and

734
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>insane embarrassment and in a very embarrassing way. And it

735
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a big surprise, but like that was just

736
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the cherry on top that you got demolished by a

737
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>bad Arkansas State team when you're coming off of a

738
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>very embarrassing loss to the Paul And I remember that

739
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 2>night we had a post game, so I think that

740
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>game started later. I don't know if it was a

741
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock tip, but it it was later than seven,

742
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>so it might have been eight or nine o'clock. And

743
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>I remember ended up happening very often, Like you know,

744
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you hear from people who work at Ourheart they're like,

745
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, Like you are getting more people to

746
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>listen than like ever.

747
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 6>And it was.

748
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like that was sort of like I

749
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>doubt that was the moment where a lot of people

750
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>knew that it was not going to work out well,

751
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I think people knew long before that,

752
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>but that was like that was the night where I knew.

753
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Given the whole day and the overall situation U of

754
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 2>l Hoops was in, there were probably a lot of

755
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>people who are at all Louisville fans that were trying

756
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to find a Louisville basketball postgame show because they're bored

757
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>and they like to just enjoy others misery. And I

758
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>was the beginning of the I hope we gave him

759
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>a treat.

760
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And that was the beginning of the conversations of whether

761
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 3>or not he would be fired before Yeah. Yeah, the

762
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 3>end of the year, yep, because it was round.

763
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 2>It was in December and it was starting to you know,

764
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and that was when, I mean, that was gosh, it's

765
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>such a mess.

766
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was.

767
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>That was.

768
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of.

769
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter who they played, but they ended up

770
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 2>beating somebody, and then Kenny talked about bringing in some visitor.

771
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>It might have been Carter Knox, and it was just embarrassing,

772
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 2>how you know, anybody was trying to act like this

773
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a complete train wreck that needed to end as

774
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 2>soon as possible. And it did end, which is good

775
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and now we've got some positive energy. But I mean,

776
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I I you know, I kind of just did it

777
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>there without realizing. Like thinking back on that era, I

778
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>think the longer time, the more time passes, hopefully the

779
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>PTSD will fade, but also it'll seem more unbelovable. It'll

780
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 2>seem more like no way that happened, right, And I

781
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>don't mean just that era, I mean everything included. I

782
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>mean it was it was wild. All right, quick break,

783
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Wrap at the

784
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock hour.

785
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Keep this thing rolling along.

786
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company field about Thornton's right here on

787
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety.

788
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 6>So.

789
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 2>One of the things we discussed with Zach Barnett earlier

790
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>who joined us at the beginning of the four o'clock

791
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 2>hour was the list of the top twenty five most

792
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 2>watched college football games so far this season. And it's

793
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:34.079
<v Speaker 2>probably not a surprise to anybody to see which games

794
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 2>ended up getting the most viewers. It's games that feature,

795
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, the biggest brands in the sport, George Alabama

796
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>number one, just under twelve million, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Michigan, USC, LSU,

797
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, Texas, A and M. So you know, it's

798
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>not a huge surprise. But when it comes to how

799
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you know your league, if you're not the Big ten

800
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>or the SEC, if you're trying to close the gap,

801
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 2>and look, fans can't do anything about it. I mean

802
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 2>other than potentially watch. But I mean, you know, if

803
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>you're a fan, you're already watching. You need people to

804
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 2>watch that aren't typically you know, they aren't huge fans,

805
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>they're just watching because they're you know, they they want

806
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to see good football. You know, it's out, it's out

807
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of your control as a fan, and it really is.

808
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't even really know. There's nothing you

809
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>can do to like just you can't implement some kind

810
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 2>of change that has people wanting to watch Virginia Tech

811
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and Clemson at the same level they want to watch

812
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Georgia Alabama. It's just really not realistic. However, that matters, right,

813
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're ESPN and the ACC is going

814
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to come to you and say we need more money,

815
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>we're falling behind, this is where you would be able

816
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to claim that you you have maybe not leverage, but

817
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>here's why we deserve more money, because we're bringing a

818
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of eyeballs to Disney, of course, which owns ESPN.

819
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, again it's not surprise, it's just you know,

820
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess a reminder that there's a reason why the

821
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Big ten and the SEC are able to bring in

822
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>annually such a huge amount of money for each member

823
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>because they got a lot of people watching. And yeah,

824
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 2>teams like Mississippi State and Vandy in South Carolina and Kentucky,

825
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>they're not commanding a big number unless they're playing a

826
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>big time opponent. But either way, it's a collective share.

827
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 2>That's how it works. But this is where Florida State

828
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and Clemson and maybe even Miami can look at the

829
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 2>rest of the league and say, we should be getting

830
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot more money than everybody else. And they've made

831
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>some kind of incentive based performance bonuses. I guess you

832
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>could call them that to where if you are somebody

833
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that is bringing in a lot more than you're gonna

834
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>take a little bit more. But the most watched ACC

835
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 2>game that did not include Florida State, Clemson, Miami is

836
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 2>SMU and Louisville, which drew one point four million. And

837
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>this isn't like I told you so a moment, But

838
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 2>remember when I kept saying, hey, you're leading right in

839
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<v Speaker 2>two game days ending on ESPN and they're going right

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<v Speaker 2>d You're gonna have just a built in audience at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of that that will impact your number. So clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville's most watched game at this point has been that

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<v Speaker 2>SMU game, which is what I kind of thought. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounded crazy, but you just have to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on you know, the big stick that is

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<v Speaker 2>just standard ESPN, you're gonna get a lot of viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a lot of viewers on Saturday as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's ABC at noon and it's Miami, a team

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<v Speaker 2>that does not have maybe a huge national audience, but

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<v Speaker 2>more than most. But you know, that's where it really

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to, right when it comes to being able

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<v Speaker 2>to get more money, you need to bring more eyeballs

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<v Speaker 2>to your league overall, and I just don't really know.

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<v Speaker 3>How you can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe if, in fact, like Virginia Tech gets back

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<v Speaker 2>to where they once were many many years ago, because

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<v Speaker 2>they used to be a bigger brand in the sport,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not an elite one, but certainly better than they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in a long time. You know, Louisville does decent,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, they're not a team that people just

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<v Speaker 2>sit around and watch because they just are entertained by Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mostly Louisville fans, or Louisville playing in a big

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<v Speaker 2>game that's going to attract interest or you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a once in a lifetime player named Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>that people want to watch. So again, it's not a surprised,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really like negative news. It's just I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's something that is going to always keep

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<v Speaker 2>you very far behind. I think the big ten in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC is that people just don't tune in to

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<v Speaker 2>watch you like they watch those leagues, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they've got so much more money than you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, quick break five o'clock hours.

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