Speaker 1: Well see, and now I'm all confused on that because
Speaker 1: I used to know the music, John. I used to
Speaker 1: know the countdown to welcome John to all that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, are we going live? And then I'm on camera.
Speaker 1: I destroyed the entire illusion that we were to create, John,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great and I got I'm I can't front on
Speaker 2: that new music. I love the new music. I love it.
Speaker 2: I think stream Yard has done a great thing with
Speaker 2: this new music.
Speaker 1: It really chills me out here before we're ready to go.
Speaker 1: I do promise, I do promise we are. I think
Speaker 1: I've made a better mood today. I certainly couldn't be
Speaker 1: in as bad of the move as I was last week.
Speaker 1: But we have a ton of stuff to talk about today.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Markcast Week three. Here ufl or recapin
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Speaker 1: It suns out, guns out what Pat call? Yeah? Yard
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Speaker 2: Yard Reid has returned real spring football.
Speaker 1: Twenty four hours from now, Dorothy and I will be
Speaker 1: at the Oyo Hotel in the pool, all things hopefully
Speaker 1: here in Vegas and then gearing up for WrestleMania weekend
Speaker 1: next weekend. So John, we're going to have a dilemma
Speaker 1: here in the minute we'll talk with you about. But yeah,
Speaker 1: welcome everyone. Lots of comments, exciting stuff here first of all,
Speaker 1: and then I'll do the plugs and said, John, this
Speaker 1: was an a low bar, but the best weekend of
Speaker 1: UFL football we've had.
Speaker 2: The first thing I had in my notes, like after
Speaker 2: I watched all the games, like was this the best week?
Speaker 2: And I think we have to say yes. No, I
Speaker 2: mean maybe the bars low, but these were really fun games,
Speaker 2: even the ten to nine Arlington Birmingham game. Was it
Speaker 2: great football?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But was it fun at the end. I mean probably
Speaker 2: not for Arlington fans, but I mean it was wild
Speaker 2: and you had you know, we'll talk about them all,
Speaker 2: but you know Memphis and I listen, I had. I
Speaker 2: had to wear my Houston rough necks here. They got
Speaker 2: the win. I don't know if they'll get another one.
Speaker 2: We see J blowing kisses to the crowd. I mean
Speaker 2: it was it was a whole vibe down there.
Speaker 1: It was good. So we really do have a jam
Speaker 1: pack show today, a lot of destroy and Haiti and
Speaker 1: we'll be on there. John has Eyewinness accounts from Memphis.
Speaker 1: John went went to Mecca, went to They went to
Speaker 1: Liberty Stadium there in Memphis, talking through all the other games.
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Speaker 1: wasn't the right You going to Memphis. I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: in Memphis this weekend. He doesn't live there. He travels
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis multiple times. Like you want to talk
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Speaker 2: The best ability is availability. And so I was available,
Speaker 2: and I was. There was one quote. There was one
Speaker 2: quote in that article. And I don't know why people
Speaker 2: got so mad like I was some Battlehawk's poser, but
Speaker 2: it was one quote. It is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of that all yes, all football, uh whatever,
Speaker 1: we all football. That just what is the name of
Speaker 1: the website? All folltball gy Just guys getting righten up.
Speaker 1: But it's good. It's exciting. So we're going to get
Speaker 1: in everything. We got Mike's we got Mike's say, TV
Speaker 1: ratings for the Friday night game that came in. We
Speaker 1: have attendance and then we have a UFL championship location
Speaker 1: kind of all that stuff. John. Here is what we
Speaker 1: we will decide at the end of the show. Here's
Speaker 1: the question I'm going to wrestle Innia next weekend. I
Speaker 1: will admittedly not be watching any United Football League action
Speaker 1: next week. Uh, we will need to decide if you're
Speaker 1: gonna want and I can co host. And now I'm
Speaker 1: not promising anything, but I am going to WrestleMania. And
Speaker 1: I have not talked to this person with the long time.
Speaker 1: People know who I'm talking about, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: If we could work on something when we're in Vegas together.
Speaker 1: I think that could be kind of cool. So you'll
Speaker 1: need to decide. We'll decide, but we could have like
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, like I could get Paul Sanchez on next week.
Speaker 1: I gotta work on it, but I'm gonna be I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the hotel with them. You may
Speaker 1: get Paul back on. You got to decide, John, if
Speaker 1: that's worth it. I think people would be exciting and
Speaker 1: excited to see. Uh would you do you? Did you
Speaker 1: even listen back when Paul was an authors?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I'm sure I did. Yeah, John's not excited
Speaker 2: at all. I think no, I think it's great. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing, A lot of people need to realize.
Speaker 2: This is Easter weekend. So Sunday I was just informed
Speaker 2: earlier that I am having dinner with my in laws,
Speaker 2: and of course being it's gonna you know, when you
Speaker 2: have dinner on the holiday, it has to be at
Speaker 2: the weirdest time ever, So it's going to be at
Speaker 2: four thirty Eastern time. So I don't know how much
Speaker 2: football I will get in before we do the podcast.
Speaker 1: If we do the podcast, so well, we'll decide, Well,
Speaker 1: it will be TVD, but we maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 1: We'll do a pow wow. Maybe we'll just shoot the
Speaker 1: breeze and hang out and I'll probably be hung over.
Speaker 1: It could be fun to give me fun.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Last comment here, Read is the heel of the UFL community.
Speaker 1: John is the ould school baby. I like that. I
Speaker 1: like that. Let's get to this first. Mike Mitchell here,
Speaker 1: just breaking news on this UFL Friday night here six
Speaker 1: eighty two thousand for the Renegade Stallions game. I was
Speaker 1: looking at my article. A three percent increase, so I said, I,
Speaker 1: I said, Darryl Johnston is probably popping champagne somewhere decent, decent. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're there. I think that's the floor. I think six hundred.
Speaker 1: That's kind of where we're at. Any I don't need
Speaker 1: we don't need to do a deep dive on this today,
Speaker 1: but it kind of thoughts on it. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've discovered kind of where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we were you mentioned our boys seth
Speaker 2: last uh last week, and he's he's trying to convince
Speaker 2: me that these numbers are okay, and I really pushed back.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of discussions back and forth, but
Speaker 2: I I think you're right, and I think he's right,
Speaker 2: like this is what the number is gonna be, you
Speaker 2: know here, and the good thing is I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it was a Friday night. It was not a
Speaker 2: great game, so that maybe that is the that's what
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. And if that's what it's gonna be,
Speaker 2: I think that's okay. I really expected more, you know,
Speaker 2: going into it, that it would be more than that,
Speaker 2: like maybe around the eight hundred thousand of maybe nine
Speaker 2: hundred thousand mark, and you know, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the projections are, and maybe that was just being too optimistic,
Speaker 2: but you know, being on Fox on Friday night, I
Speaker 2: thought they would they would maybe get some more numbers
Speaker 2: than that. So but if that's what it is, it's
Speaker 2: what it's. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and Mike Mitchell right about this as well.
Speaker 1: If you want to see this. His article for the
Speaker 1: ratings is always have a UFL and newsub dot com
Speaker 1: over there with Mark and everything on that Mike's skin.
Speaker 1: It kind of balancing some of you know, we get
Speaker 1: some of the articles market some of the articles. It's good,
Speaker 1: you know, the Friday night thing paints a picture, and
Speaker 1: I think maybe if we get through the halfway point
Speaker 1: of the season, maybe we can, you know, stop down here.
Speaker 1: It's just there has been no apples to apples, even
Speaker 1: the kickoff game versus last year's kickoff game and the
Speaker 1: Saturday and the Friday and now yeah, we have the
Speaker 1: Friday stuff here. I hate the standalone Saturday game. I
Speaker 1: wish the UFL was at a point where we could
Speaker 1: do the one Friday double header, Saturday double head Sunday.
Speaker 1: I loved the doubleheader Sunday, mostly just because I was
Speaker 1: at home. I was I had the Mariners on one screen,
Speaker 1: I had the UFL, and then it rolled in today
Speaker 1: like that was awesome. That's what you need. I know.
Speaker 1: You've talked a lot about the gap, right kind of
Speaker 1: between the games. You know, you want to tighten that
Speaker 1: up and scheduling, but I don't, you know, six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand on the round, my point, six hundred thousand for
Speaker 1: Fox on a Friday is different than six hundred thousand
Speaker 1: ABC Midday on a Saturday. So I would just like
Speaker 1: to see kind of once we get midway through the
Speaker 1: season and kind of where where the actual network ratings
Speaker 1: kind of balance out, because like the FS what we
Speaker 1: we just haven't had a lot of like sample size
Speaker 1: this season thus far.
Speaker 2: I don't think, Yeah, you know, my concern is, and
Speaker 2: in fact, there's a comment right here on this thread there.
Speaker 2: My concern is, does Fox start to look at this
Speaker 2: and say, we could have put a rerun of Mass
Speaker 2: Singer that that aired earlier in the week and probably
Speaker 2: gotten the same numbers. So I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: how much they're they're willing to invest. Is it like,
Speaker 2: is it going to cost them more to air a
Speaker 2: Mass Singer than it would be to put on a
Speaker 2: full production on a Friday night. I don't know, So
Speaker 2: that's my only concern, But you're you're right, I think
Speaker 2: that this is what it's gonna be. I thought they
Speaker 2: would do it up a lot more than they did
Speaker 2: and make it a presentation and we just really have
Speaker 2: not seen that. We did get Kevin Coogler though, so
Speaker 2: that was pretty nice. That was a good crew they
Speaker 2: had Friday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here because Leon's talking about next weekend,
Speaker 1: you know again going up again trusting Mania next weekend. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the Friday night game. I hate how they
Speaker 1: they guy can scroll here. Let me pull this up
Speaker 1: just real quick. We'll do schedule step at the end
Speaker 1: on here. But yeah, the Friday game at Ford Field,
Speaker 1: Saturday here, twelve thirty midday, right, both of these, so
Speaker 1: twelve thirty and then seven, you're going to begin to
Speaker 1: WrestleMania starting for that night game and then Sunday here
Speaker 1: at five, so you're going up. Well, see you also
Speaker 1: had yeah two week to Fox to ABC. What do
Speaker 1: you also have the nineteen million people or whatever Sunday
Speaker 1: they watched Rory on The Masters, So I'll be curious
Speaker 1: what the doubleheader on Sunday looks like for the.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what we talked about about. That was
Speaker 2: the main sports competition and I did not realize that,
Speaker 2: you know, when Rory got was in contention there pretty early,
Speaker 2: and then it looked like, you know, end up that
Speaker 2: final round being pretty good. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: could be tough for the UFL.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean talk about just just sports drama and
Speaker 1: human interest. I mean, I'm not a golf guy, and
Speaker 1: I sat there last night watching the recap just like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm holding my phone and then he's walking up,
Speaker 1: but I just he just couldn't imagine, just couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool. Yeah, lots of comments here.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of scrolling through here. Maybe we'll do
Speaker 1: some comments at the end about all that. So I
Speaker 1: see Scott and all that just marketing promoting getting the
Speaker 1: stuff out of here. But we'll see. I'll be curious.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna have a clean weekend. I joked about
Speaker 1: this a lot when the USFL came in, and well,
Speaker 1: April is the best time because nothing's on. And then
Speaker 1: the second they hit the Ratians and it was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we have golf and then you have women's basketball,
Speaker 1: you know, the draft or what they come up with
Speaker 1: all these you know, every time of year is the
Speaker 1: best time of year until it's not.
Speaker 2: And right, that was Yeah, I mean, I still kind
Speaker 2: of leaned toward I really wish they would start in February,
Speaker 2: but you know this, this is what we have right now.
Speaker 2: We could what's golf anyway? So yeah, to me, I
Speaker 2: thought that that February start was almost perfect. It was
Speaker 2: certainly perfect when we had almost around football with the NFL,
Speaker 2: the XFL, the USFL. Those are the good old days.
Speaker 1: Uh. We got Mike's attendance here so Birmingham the Friday night,
Speaker 1: ten thousand on that Memphis right around that forty five
Speaker 1: hundred mark Michigan. You know, we've talked about this and distribution,
Speaker 1: and then the Saint Louis that's kind of their base
Speaker 1: number there. We've talked a lot about distributed tickets and
Speaker 1: all of that. Last week, I will tell you I
Speaker 1: thought the Battlehawk's crowd looked very low. That was the
Speaker 1: lowest that I had seen. I wasn't uh I think
Speaker 1: it ended up. I did people, you know, of course,
Speaker 1: comment and where like I didn't think it was like,
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm just watching. I never think
Speaker 1: like it's the most like I'm seeing. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is the least amount of people ever. You're an idiot,
Speaker 1: But it did they padded that. I'm probably closer to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on that. Anything stand out for you
Speaker 1: there dies Mission Memphis. Did that feel like a five
Speaker 1: thousand person crowd?
Speaker 2: No, No, it was not. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: like we said, we're not going to freak out about
Speaker 2: the numbers when because you know, again we know what
Speaker 2: the numbers are. It's tickets distributed. We've talked about that.
Speaker 2: There were not There's no way there was forty seven
Speaker 2: hundred people there. I mean it was fun, it was
Speaker 2: you know, there were times when it got as loud
Speaker 2: as it could. They don't sell tickets on one side
Speaker 2: of the stadium, so you don't have anybody over there.
Speaker 2: They're all on one side of the stadium. So no,
Speaker 2: that that was. But even still, even inflated, it's still
Speaker 2: forty seven hundred.
Speaker 1: That's tough, you know, thirteen thousand week three average like that.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel a little That makes me feel
Speaker 1: a little like you're not trying to be too bad,
Speaker 1: but it makes me feel a little bit like whether
Speaker 1: we're doing here well.
Speaker 2: It also makes me a little concerned. I need to
Speaker 2: go back and look at it. But teaser here you
Speaker 2: might see a video come out, Oh don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: tomorrow around six am Eastern time. Talking about Memphis and
Speaker 2: all the different leagues that have played there, especially in
Speaker 2: the Liberty Bowl. But when we started talking about you know,
Speaker 2: you start looking it's like all these were terrible attendances
Speaker 2: for the AAF and even the CFL back in the
Speaker 2: mid nineties it was still about three to four times
Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now with these numbers, and that
Speaker 2: that makes me a little concerned. Now again, I'm sorry again,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are gonna say this.
Speaker 2: The attendance and ticket sales are not a big part
Speaker 2: of the financial model. But after a while you have
Speaker 2: to start asking yourself, why aren't we connecting with the
Speaker 2: local community. If there's not interest here, is there going
Speaker 2: to be interest nationwide?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a question here from David just Birmingham, Carroll.
Speaker 1: I see them when they're at least Memphis is bad.
Speaker 1: The salary to one of the shining examples. It's hard
Speaker 1: because you get to that, you get to that quo,
Speaker 1: you know, you get both sides of that right where Wow,
Speaker 1: like the Brahmas have been bad, so how do you
Speaker 1: expect them to get or Memphis has been bad. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you go, shoot man Burmie. I mean you
Speaker 1: couldn't you couldn't ask for more from Birmingham from a
Speaker 1: sports team and a well run organization and good coaching
Speaker 1: and good staff and you know, a good GM there
Speaker 1: before he moved and got it right, didn't Zach? Didn't
Speaker 1: he get promoted somewhere else or whatever? Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: all of these states like so, so it's both sides
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know. I think we need to
Speaker 1: do a deep dive on this. I've even seen people
Speaker 1: commenting on my stuff kind of you co signing me
Speaker 1: and just like why, like why is this not working?
Speaker 1: Why a Memphis? Why Ald? I? I mean it is a
Speaker 1: dead horse at this point. But uh, that that is
Speaker 1: there are certain markets where it does not feel like
Speaker 1: things are resonating. But then you see Michigan kind of
Speaker 1: you know, tick up a little bit and you think, well,
Speaker 1: is that working out? To me, Memphis is the worst
Speaker 1: because that is the second longest ten year team in
Speaker 1: a home market, you know, after Birmingham.
Speaker 2: Well, and I will say there was severe weather in
Speaker 2: the area in Birmingham before the game. Now when the
Speaker 2: game started, if anyone if you watched it, you could
Speaker 2: tell there was not severe weather. It did look like
Speaker 2: it might have been raining a little bit. Uh, but
Speaker 2: still your team's won three championships. Go, you know, as
Speaker 2: long as there's not lightning in the area, go sit
Speaker 2: out in the sprinkle and it's fun. I mean I
Speaker 2: was down there last year for the season finale and
Speaker 2: it was poor and rain but there were still a
Speaker 2: lot of people around and it was humid, and that's
Speaker 2: what it was. But it's you know, there weren't as
Speaker 2: many people as it should have been for a game
Speaker 2: that technically decided the USFL Conference champion, even though if
Speaker 2: Michigan had won, they still would have had to play
Speaker 2: at Birmingham because ford Field wasn't available.
Speaker 1: Here's my last comment here. Gemini says, it's not the
Speaker 1: business model, but it effects the business model. Believe they
Speaker 1: need to understand that. You know, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about that here right. Obviously, YouTube, we care about number
Speaker 1: of people to watch the show, right, but we need
Speaker 1: people on here right now doing comments. Right. You want
Speaker 1: people engaged in your stream live as it's happening to
Speaker 1: give that and you know, we're just sitting here and
Speaker 1: it's it's you know it's it's Max in the chat.
Speaker 1: You doesn't do as much for me when we have
Speaker 1: a group, So you know, it's all effects that it
Speaker 1: affects the energy. To me, the biggest thing we've talked
Speaker 1: about this it's a perception. I show my mother or
Speaker 1: my wife or my neighbor the game and there's forty
Speaker 1: seven hundred people that it affects perception more than anything.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I will tell
Speaker 1: you my Saint Louis tweet and my Memphis tweets. A
Speaker 1: lot of CFL people I call that like, ooh you know,
Speaker 1: and you got to oh, man, I did this league's done?
Speaker 1: So you know it comes from all sides. Anything general thought. Sure, else,
Speaker 1: I'm going to pull up the arlington. We'll talk to
Speaker 1: the game here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you covered it all. It's something
Speaker 2: we say we're not going to talk about, and we
Speaker 2: continue to talk about. But it's just you know what, again,
Speaker 2: we talk about these things because we are pulling for
Speaker 2: the success of this league and we just really want
Speaker 2: to see it kind of take off.
Speaker 1: Yes, So for the for the Orangine game here, so
Speaker 1: I was so, oh, I didn't I'll tell you my
Speaker 1: story at the end, I'll say, remind me of the
Speaker 1: end to tell you my story about how sick I
Speaker 1: got after our stream LOSK so I was I was
Speaker 1: going to say I was fortunate. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was fortun I was. I was fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: this game on the plane undisturbed, flying back from my
Speaker 1: work trip from Orlando, so I got to see all
Speaker 1: of this. I don't even think there would be much
Speaker 1: to talk about in this game if it were for
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the end of game kind of
Speaker 1: scenario and all of that. You have general thoughts in
Speaker 1: the game before we kind of get to all that breakdown.
Speaker 2: The general thought is when Matt Carrall is good, he's great.
Speaker 2: When he is bad, it is hard to watch. And
Speaker 2: when look at that stat line nineteen for forty one.
Speaker 2: Now he did have two hundred and fifty five yards,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's just some of these passes. There
Speaker 2: was one I think he was trying to throw a
Speaker 2: corner route and he just threw it over the guy
Speaker 2: and skip Holtz there there are a lot of times
Speaker 2: when they have taken video, you know, taking shots of
Speaker 2: of skip Holtz and he's coaching them up or this week.
Speaker 2: It was there were tons of shots of him just
Speaker 2: being so frustrated. There was sound of him being frustrated.
Speaker 2: And here's another thing with this now that case Cookus
Speaker 2: is there, the signing that none of us could figure out.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people were starting to say,
Speaker 2: maybe we need, you know, put let's put Kate case
Speaker 2: Cookus in there, because Matt Corrall struggling so much. But
Speaker 2: again he has such good games, and so there's that spark.
Speaker 2: But I think now Skip Holtz has an insurance policy
Speaker 2: with with case Cookis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like that? Do you like him moving
Speaker 1: in there? There was you know a little bit of juice?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I still think you you you
Speaker 2: you stick with Matt Corrall, I mean until you don't. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of what we saw with with
Speaker 2: Memphis a little bit. And well, I mean and frankly
Speaker 2: we saw it with Houston in that game. Let's let's
Speaker 2: also remember don't take anything away again from this Birmingham defense,
Speaker 2: because I mean they held on some you know, almost
Speaker 2: goal line plays against Arlington. Now Arlington's defense, i mean
Speaker 2: offense was you know, sputtering a little bit obviously only
Speaker 2: scored nine points. But man, I mean Birmingham's defense, if
Speaker 2: they had not stepped up the way they did, this
Speaker 2: is a different story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have here Puzol fan Sternberger fumble was pretty wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said that must have been too busy with all
Speaker 1: that tweeting about you know, Mark Nelson and articles and
Speaker 1: all that. Oh darn Jase, like but you know, have
Speaker 1: anyone criticized But it was a good play.
Speaker 2: It But but the thing is, uh, I think the
Speaker 2: defense held on that play. So yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: was why. I mean that was a touchdown. I mean
Speaker 2: he dropped six points, but they were able to hold
Speaker 2: Arlington to a field goal I think on that possession.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was. Yeah, that's pretty wild. And you
Speaker 2: got to burn in on old Jase.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say too, And because Canala had
Speaker 1: a fumble too, right at some point, I was kind
Speaker 1: of I was, I was pretty.
Speaker 2: Tired there was that when he got blown up. It
Speaker 2: might have been a fumble then.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, just a side note, I
Speaker 1: did just get that email from the Renegades. Hey, they
Speaker 1: had a sal Canela like spotlight article coming out. Dank Christ,
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a little press like no, I
Speaker 1: mean that like that's awesome. Like if I was, if
Speaker 1: I was a person for one of these teams, that's great.
Speaker 1: I every week, then you do salad this week, and
Speaker 1: then you do someone on defense next week and use
Speaker 1: something like it's that's free or two times a week,
Speaker 1: do three times to do an offensive and defensive and
Speaker 1: the specialtyam like yeah, send them six questions. Do you
Speaker 1: like your bread toasted or untoted? Like I don't you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's not people like that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I have a question here where
Speaker 1: David yet to Where's David's question? Is it time to
Speaker 1: move later? I would like to see them score points again.
Speaker 2: Uh, you're gonna You're gonna bench the King of Spring.
Speaker 2: I mean, what was it? What was what were his
Speaker 2: stat lines? I mean, what was his what were in stats?
Speaker 1: Like it? Here?
Speaker 2: Because I said, I mean I still think his numbers
Speaker 2: are okay. I mean I don't think they were they
Speaker 2: were terrible? Were they? I mean? Yeah? I mean still
Speaker 2: had over two hundred yards passing twenty six or thirty
Speaker 2: eight is not bad. I mean you're right, no touchdowns,
Speaker 2: but no picks either. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: he was the problem. And a foosball fan brings up
Speaker 2: a good point about how he thought Arlington played some
Speaker 2: good defense. I kind of questioned Arlington's defense because they
Speaker 2: had to hold off Houston and then you know, then
Speaker 2: they gave up the game time touchdown and that one
Speaker 2: point conversion there at the end of the game. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was kind of a crazy ending to the game.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's their defense. You know, it seems like
Speaker 2: it's good until it's you know, crutch time.
Speaker 1: Well let's talk about that. So let's talk in the
Speaker 1: game here. And I was because I was watching you know,
Speaker 1: you know how watching like football on a plan is
Speaker 1: and like he right, So then so I watch it
Speaker 1: and I watched the replay and because I'm okay, I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I got everything. But you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Birmingham driving all that, and you know, the
Speaker 1: fall start and everything, and you know, Steve's not being
Speaker 1: able to decline they got it, right? Do we like that?
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of controversy. I thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of the main takeaway from the game.
Speaker 2: Well, it starts bringing out the conspiracy theory too, thought
Speaker 2: that you know, Kansas City was supposed to win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and you know till that conspiracy theory theory
Speaker 2: fell through and they're they're all, they're in Saint Louis's corner. Well,
Speaker 2: that conspiracy theory died, so now all these conspiracy theorists
Speaker 2: are on Birmingham. When you get the call right the
Speaker 2: way that the UFL rules are set up, I thought
Speaker 2: that was fine. There were people saying, why didn't Bob
Speaker 2: Stoops decline the penalty? Well, you can't decline the dead
Speaker 2: ball penalty. Uh, that's that's what it is. And no,
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's fine when you are
Speaker 2: when you can make those kinds of calls in crunch
Speaker 2: time of games. I think that's one thing that majorly
Speaker 2: separates the UFL from the NFL or any other pro
Speaker 2: league and the Super Challenge, which I expect any time
Speaker 2: for the NFL to to steal that one because they should.
Speaker 1: You had a lot of officiating this week and I
Speaker 1: felt like, we excuse me with you with with Mike
Speaker 1: and all that, and the Dean was the lover. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was just a lot of uh you know, controversy
Speaker 1: that way. But yeah, I always say Birmingham is what
Speaker 1: is it the Birmingham in the league's poker? However you
Speaker 1: want to say that, I don't know. I mean it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: I think Arlington, you know, made it to write to
Speaker 1: the red zone three times previously, you had plenty of
Speaker 1: opportunities to put that away. Do you view that Arlington
Speaker 1: giving the way away or giving the game or Birmingham?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: No, I mean I credit that to Birmingham's defense. I
Speaker 2: just thought they looked good the entire game, So, I mean,
Speaker 2: can both things be true? Yes? To me, I just
Speaker 2: thought that was just some really strong Birmingham defense throughout
Speaker 2: the game. I was really impressed with them. They've been
Speaker 2: good all year. They were good last year.
Speaker 1: I'm looking here, you know, so Arlington here second in
Speaker 1: the XFL, obviously undefeated defenders that way, David asked, I mean,
Speaker 1: Louis and all that, do we ride for just a
Speaker 1: bad week? Birmingham's defense is stout? How do you kind
Speaker 1: of adjust to that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too much knee jerks. Everyone wanted to bench
Speaker 2: Kellen Mond. Now, did they lose? Yes, Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get killed for this, but I have
Speaker 2: I have kell I have San Antonio in our power rankings,
Speaker 2: I put San Antonio third. Now do I They're zero
Speaker 2: to three. I understand I'm gonna get killed for this,
Speaker 2: but Kellen Mond was a different quarterback. I mean it
Speaker 2: was a close game obviously in Michigan had to come back.
Speaker 2: Your guy, you know, destroying, got destroyed there and missed
Speaker 2: the game time field. So but I'm just saying there's
Speaker 2: too much knee jerk that. You know, people wanted to
Speaker 2: sit Alex Magoo after week one when he was getting
Speaker 2: absolutely killed. We kept saying every week Kellen Mond needs
Speaker 2: to jail a little bit. He's got a new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: With the offensive coordinator comes in now Peyton Pardee and says, hey,
Speaker 2: you know this guy could run a lot in college.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should let him do a lot more of that.
Speaker 2: Certainly worked out, he was much more, you know, he
Speaker 2: used his feet a lot more. Again, I think that
Speaker 2: this team is gonna Gael And you know, I kept
Speaker 2: saying that Memphis was the best OH and two team.
Speaker 2: Now I think San Antonio might be the best owen
Speaker 2: three team.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because yesterday was the best week, you know,
Speaker 1: day of games, right, So you're you know, three and
Speaker 1: a half weeks into the season where you're seeing that.
Speaker 1: And my question was, you know, this player strife and
Speaker 1: potential lock it, you know, walk out and kind of
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, how much of that in
Speaker 1: training camp and the quarterback's not doing that? You know,
Speaker 1: how much should all this effect we're now you know,
Speaker 1: we're three weeks into the season, right, they had you know,
Speaker 1: two three week training you know, now you're kind of
Speaker 1: at the point where we're getting to that, we're getting
Speaker 1: things going. I just think where that that first week
Speaker 1: or two of the spring football is always such a cluster,
Speaker 1: like uh, getting everyone together? Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 1: I felt, we're kind of all these teams are kind
Speaker 1: of hitting stride.
Speaker 2: Now well, and it's so compressed already anyway. You don't
Speaker 2: have two to three months of you know, of pre
Speaker 2: you don't have two to three months of training camp,
Speaker 2: you don't have preseason games. You're launched straight into it,
Speaker 2: and if you go oh and three like San Antonio,
Speaker 2: you're fighting for your life before mid season to get
Speaker 2: to the postseason. But I think you're right. I think
Speaker 2: we are starting to see maybe some of the effects
Speaker 2: those first couple of weeks of that, you know, sitting
Speaker 2: out of the of the quarterback camp. But I think
Speaker 2: this third week, I think you're exactly right. You're on
Speaker 2: track there. We are starting to see what happens when
Speaker 2: these teams start to practice. Now and now they're starting
Speaker 2: to play together, They're starting to figure out these offenses
Speaker 2: because everything is just so compressed when you compare it
Speaker 2: to a lot of other leagues, especially the NFL.
Speaker 1: UH A couple I have a question for you, and
Speaker 1: then someone said, we got comments here, we'll do it
Speaker 1: as king Williams not to ever react. A week one,
Speaker 1: do you think Parde might be the coach of the
Speaker 1: future in San Antonio? They look fired up. Yes, we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it. A J. Smith and everything, a
Speaker 1: lot of we just didn't have a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about it because that was Wednesday, Thursday. I was working
Speaker 1: and I was in Orlando. You know you hear rumors, right,
Speaker 1: he got pushed out. They didn't want to use his offense.
Speaker 1: We see did that step back to the championship game
Speaker 1: last year where they looks so anemic. I saw Brandon
Speaker 1: Silver's tweeting out in support of A. J. Smith. Obviously
Speaker 1: he was close to them in their time? What did
Speaker 1: you I guess, what do you make of the AJ
Speaker 1: Smith stepping down? And then? Yeah, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this. We weren't going to go to
Speaker 1: this game yet, but they goes, what did you make
Speaker 1: of this? I'm coming ahead here, John.
Speaker 2: That's quite all right. Yeah, I've seen two different reports
Speaker 2: now from San Antonio that AJ Smith left because he
Speaker 2: was at odds on what offense he wanted to run
Speaker 2: and what offense that maybe Wade Phillips or the organization
Speaker 2: wanted to run. But I'm telling you they lost, Yes,
Speaker 2: but didn't that offense look a lot better with Peyton Party.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, like I said last week, A J.
Speaker 2: Smith didn't forget how to coach. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the question. But you have to, as Brandon Silver says,
Speaker 2: that you had, you know, you've got to You've got
Speaker 2: to let an offensive coordinator decide what personnel and what
Speaker 2: kind of scheme he wants to run. Otherwise, why do
Speaker 2: you have an offensive coordinator? You just need a you know,
Speaker 2: a play caller like Ken wizen Hunt. I mean not
Speaker 2: that they don't have an offensive coordinator, but he you know,
Speaker 2: he's the play caller. There's a lot of that that happened.
Speaker 2: So I don't know that A J. Smith is going
Speaker 2: to work in a system like that where that was
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like said, they're dude and foosball fan.
Speaker 1: They're fighting in the chat. That's funny. I hear it
Speaker 1: as well. I just I'm tired. I'm going on macation here.
Speaker 1: But here we go, DeMarcus John, You're absolutely wrong. If
Speaker 1: they challenge you is fine. But the place on now
Speaker 1: we're back. This is what I have was all kind
Speaker 1: of talking about the renegads on this I jumping you around,
Speaker 1: keeping you on your toes. Uh, we're going back to that.
Speaker 1: So the false start ID and going all the way
Speaker 1: through your playing changing the game. That was where I
Speaker 1: wanted to in the conversation, and then we'll move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see why people are upset
Speaker 2: by that. Uh. And you're right, you know, if if
Speaker 2: if there's a false start, that play, that play should stop.
Speaker 2: I mean it stops on every level of a false start.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it did go through and then they went
Speaker 2: back and looked at it. But I just that's the UFL.
Speaker 2: I don't I you know, I don't think I'm wrong
Speaker 2: on that. I mean, that's what you that's what the
Speaker 2: UFL does. That was the rule.
Speaker 1: It annoys me and for anyone that doesn't watch hockey,
Speaker 1: it feels very similar to like offsides challenge in hockey,
Speaker 1: where they might be in the offensive zone for two
Speaker 1: or three minutes and score and then they go, well
Speaker 1: on the entry it was, you know, and they'll go back,
Speaker 1: you know, and and sometimes those teams will know, right,
Speaker 1: they'll know and you see, I mean shooting football, you
Speaker 1: see that, Oh he's got a free play or he
Speaker 1: knows or oh, well get you know Aaron Rodger, remember
Speaker 1: he was the.
Speaker 3: King, Like, oh Aaron, he's so crafty, he always knows,
Speaker 3: he's got to like But you get that hockey and
Speaker 3: they'll go back and that team maybe new a minute
Speaker 3: and a half ago, Hey this is off side, you know,
Speaker 3: and then obviously you're gonna play, but then.
Speaker 1: Change out all around anything else with that. You want
Speaker 1: to move on to Memphis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the goaltending call in college basketball. Now
Speaker 2: they can go back and look at or you know,
Speaker 2: at or review a three later.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I did have a show. Where was
Speaker 1: it don't. I don't think I had a tweet pulled out,
Speaker 1: but I was like, yeah, Birmingham is the matric city
Speaker 1: because they make the fans disappear. All right, So John
Speaker 1: went to Memphis. You were there, John took photos for us.
Speaker 1: We have I still have not heard back about it
Speaker 1: that stuff in terms of being able to use haven't
Speaker 1: had time this week by that.
Speaker 2: I will not charge you three hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: John, Please don't. Yeah, John Shott spirol John Shott's photos
Speaker 1: at John Shott's lots of things. Yeah, video of Curtis Johnson.
Speaker 1: But you were there. You were there for the Roughnecks.
Speaker 1: When I tweeted out Chris Johnson as coach more winning
Speaker 1: football games than you or I have, and likely anyone
Speaker 1: reading this tweet for the most well, not knowing my
Speaker 1: Twitter feed, there's actually a lot of like smart football people.
Speaker 1: Maybe not my maybe not, but there you go. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was, what did you make about I'll pull up
Speaker 1: the game stats, but Curtis Johnson pulled it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Ken w Hunt set Ken
Speaker 2: wesen Hunt said after the game, you learn, you learn
Speaker 2: from these things. He disagreed with the assessment that it
Speaker 2: felt like the defenses were ahead of the offenses, you know,
Speaker 2: in in the UFL in general. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: he knows a lot more football than I do, but
Speaker 2: it does feel that way anyway. But I think both
Speaker 2: I think both teams might have found their quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 2: It's what I when Pat Raffino put on Analyze and Educate,
Speaker 2: he did his you know, top quarterbacks of the season
Speaker 2: or of the week, and you know, talking about e J. Perry,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like Matt Carrall. When e J. Perry
Speaker 2: is good. You know, that is a very good quarterback.
Speaker 2: But he absolutely had a meltdown at the end.
Speaker 1: Of the game.
Speaker 2: One was a pick six and you know generally that
Speaker 2: was I mean, you can look at it and that
Speaker 2: was kind of the turning point. It might have been
Speaker 2: the winner there for Houston and then Memphis going for
Speaker 2: two for for the win rather than going for the tie.
Speaker 2: It just it was an interesting game. First half was
Speaker 2: not great. You know, we talked about that. I I
Speaker 2: ask you, like, does this look better on TV than
Speaker 2: it does here from field level? A second second, second
Speaker 2: half was good. I mean, but when Nolan Henderson came
Speaker 2: in there for Houston. I mean, it was it was
Speaker 2: a different game.
Speaker 1: Do you and and this always happens, right when you're
Speaker 1: a bad team and you get slept on and I've
Speaker 1: had this and you know, her team's play up or
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle teams are the prototypical We play up
Speaker 1: and then we played down to the to you know,
Speaker 1: our competition that way. But excuse are the roughnecks kind
Speaker 1: of compiling something here building something? Or is this uh
Speaker 1: this is this show box just asleep with the.
Speaker 2: Show boats? Gave this one away. It's what happened, you know.
Speaker 2: Troy Williams came in there, looked a lot better, you know,
Speaker 2: put them on some drives. You know, again e J.
Speaker 2: Perry start, I rewatched the first you know, I'm gluten
Speaker 2: for punishment. I rewatched the first half this morning. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, e J. Perry continued to
Speaker 2: kind of have you know these drives he's putting together,
Speaker 2: got in the rhythm and but then you know I
Speaker 2: saw it in person in the second half, it just
Speaker 2: it was just kind of a disaster. No, no, I
Speaker 2: mean in my power rankings, I couldn't put Houston last.
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't do it. I had to put
Speaker 2: Memphis last. But still, uh, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it sparked something I could be wrong to me.
Speaker 2: Memphis lost this game more than Houston won it.
Speaker 1: So now you know, firmly bottom of the USFL conference here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Birmingham and obviously they're at the top. They're they're your
Speaker 1: worst team, whether I think Greg Parks is, they'll be
Speaker 1: working on their you know, our power rankings this week
Speaker 1: for all football. That just but that's where you got them.
Speaker 2: I mean I do reluctantly. I mean I think if
Speaker 2: you play that game three times, I think Memphis wins twice,
Speaker 2: and I think Houston got them on the one day
Speaker 2: that they were going to win.
Speaker 1: David has a question for you as EH Perry the
Speaker 1: best worst quarterback, the worst best quarterback in the UFL.
Speaker 2: That's all that is an entire podcast in to itself,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a question from football fan here
Speaker 1: that could be an entire podcast. We'll get to at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: I can imagine. Yeah, I mean again, it's like E. J.
Speaker 2: Perry versus Matt Corral It's like the highlight reel throws
Speaker 2: and runs and then and then it's like and then
Speaker 2: if you put together a reel of all they're bad,
Speaker 2: of all the bad plays, you know, these guys can't
Speaker 2: play on any level. It's just it's just so different.
Speaker 1: Did anything we'll get moved to the to the Sunday
Speaker 1: game show that might give us a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but finishing with the Memphis takeaways from the game or
Speaker 1: take away you know, getting to be on the media
Speaker 1: side there taking photos, sideline, any other stories, any other observations.
Speaker 2: Memphis does it right. I got to park right up
Speaker 2: beside the stadium. I did not have to pay for parking.
Speaker 2: You know, press pass was easy to pick up. Walks
Speaker 2: straight in. Uh no, I mean they it's it as
Speaker 2: far as the whole game day operation goes. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is you know, it might be kind of inside
Speaker 2: baseball here inside football, but as far as the game
Speaker 2: day operations go, it is a great set up there.
Speaker 2: And you go right in there's a media room set
Speaker 2: up where they actually do the interviews and you know,
Speaker 2: the postgame stuff. It was great. And you know Andy Seely,
Speaker 2: who's the PR guy. We've mentioned his name several times.
Speaker 2: Class act just is so helpful and you know, just
Speaker 2: friendly and appreciates the work that we do. So yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it was just it was it was really cool to
Speaker 2: be there again. I As I said, I worked in
Speaker 2: in Louisville television for twenty years and University of Louisville
Speaker 2: used to go to the Liberty Bowl every year in football,
Speaker 2: but I never got to attend to I never went.
Speaker 2: I was always the guy sitting in the studio saying,
Speaker 2: here's so and so from you know, from the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to go there because I mean, we
Speaker 2: never know, as we've seen these leagues pop up and die,
Speaker 2: and it's like when I'm I ever going to get
Speaker 2: a chance to go to Memphis again or or have
Speaker 2: an opportunity to go watch a game there that's in
Speaker 2: a league that I enjoy. So that was why I went,
Speaker 2: And it was it was really fun and it was
Speaker 2: a class act and everybody was just you know, very helpful.
Speaker 1: Did was there a large number? Was there a large
Speaker 1: was there? A large number of other media folks there
Speaker 1: from Memphis.
Speaker 2: No w R e G seems to do a lot
Speaker 2: uh Channel three there in Memphis, and they seem to
Speaker 2: do a lot with the Panthers, And I just saw abduels.
Speaker 1: I just saw we'll pull it up, we'll pull it up,
Speaker 1: which is true.
Speaker 2: Uh, But no, I think and I don't know that
Speaker 2: they I don't even know if they shot the game. Really.
Speaker 2: I think they were in there for post game. I
Speaker 2: think uh. Uh me and this we were like the
Speaker 2: That was pretty much all. There were only a few
Speaker 2: cameras there on the sidelines. Uh. And there was a
Speaker 2: there was a group there from Arkansas State. Uh, some
Speaker 2: college students there that they were shooting. I saw that
Speaker 2: they were given the Memphis players high fives after they
Speaker 2: ran in touchdowns. So it was it was it was
Speaker 2: quite the experience.
Speaker 1: I would be curious. And I know that the UFL,
Speaker 1: you know they they have the highlights for us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on that media portal. I'd be curious, you know, if
Speaker 1: they shot that. I'm curious how much they shot that there.
Speaker 1: If they're calling at the Memphis TV stations every week, like,
Speaker 1: hey we got five minutes and game highlights and you know,
Speaker 1: two postgame interviews if you want to use some, I
Speaker 1: would just be curious. Like it's one thing to have
Speaker 1: them there, it's another thing to shot that. Yes, we
Speaker 1: did see them deals coming, not shocking. The childis can
Speaker 1: park anywhere with the Abdul. You do not know the
Speaker 1: interactions we have had in Arlington. You would think that
Speaker 1: that would be you can't even get free parking in
Speaker 1: in Arlington. So I did would think.
Speaker 2: That I did get free parking. And when I got there,
Speaker 2: I was I walked out. I got there way early
Speaker 2: because I wanted to get there and get some video outside.
Speaker 2: And I saw there's some tailigators over here. And then
Speaker 2: I saw this just this giant, just stretch of tents
Speaker 2: and all these people out there, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what now, what a scene? This is like people are
Speaker 2: really showing up. But come come to find out, there
Speaker 2: was another community event that was happening on that side
Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with the UFL, but it
Speaker 2: was interesting. There were some Houston Roughnecks fans there. Uh,
Speaker 2: and I was shocked and in fact, like the video
Speaker 2: I sense some video back. I had some great video
Speaker 2: of CJ walking off the field. He's blowing kisses to
Speaker 2: the I don't know twenty Houston Roughnecks fans over there.
Speaker 2: Was it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: I know, I was shedding. There was anyway for me
Speaker 1: to pull that out here.
Speaker 2: Well and Here's what King Williams here brings up a
Speaker 2: good point about you know, if local news isn't covering,
Speaker 2: how are you know people supposed to know? I told
Speaker 2: you read I think you know. I was down there
Speaker 2: and kind of flipping around watching local television. I I no,
Speaker 2: not to say it didn't happen, but I never saw
Speaker 2: one mention of the Memphis Showboats game happening. And when
Speaker 2: they were talking about different events that were happening and
Speaker 2: the weather forecast, I never saw one. I never saw
Speaker 2: one mention of the Memphis Showboats.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I don't break this hole and John
Speaker 1: Dunnan there you go, don't don't don't give me a
Speaker 1: strike here, you have to see that enjoy And I
Speaker 1: got he goes, I got John Lewis Wayne for me,
Speaker 1: I got, I got time to do. But it was good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun. I'm glad I got to too.
Speaker 2: And you know, I've I've been to you know, Birmingham
Speaker 2: a few times, Saint Louis a few times. I got
Speaker 2: to go to Canton, which was really cool. I mean,
Speaker 2: that was one of my favorite trips ever. And then
Speaker 2: you know, and then going to Memphis. It is fun
Speaker 2: to go to these things. I do wish that there
Speaker 2: was a little bit more you know, fans set up.
Speaker 2: I mean they had a great tailgating area.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The theme was Memphis Wrestling, which you would have enjoyed.
Speaker 2: During the timeouts they slammed the guy through a table
Speaker 2: on the concourse. They were having actual wrestling matches matches
Speaker 2: before the game with some of the Memphis area wrestlers.
Speaker 2: It was it was quite the same. And I ate
Speaker 2: a foot long corn dog, So I mean, what day.
Speaker 1: You know it was when I took Dorothy to the
Speaker 1: Arlington Renegades game. It was memor of the weekend last
Speaker 1: year we went. I I agree with you when you're there.
Speaker 1: They do a fantastic job for the fans. It's getting
Speaker 1: the fans in. I think the people that are doing
Speaker 1: the game day, including the hosts that are doing the crowd,
Speaker 1: all of that is that like in the wrestling and
Speaker 1: we get the emails and you know, the roughnecks are
Speaker 1: doing whatever, and this is doing you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: trying these theme things. I think it's great. It's just
Speaker 1: getting people to the game. We Dorithy, I had a
Speaker 1: great time we walked out around Chalkdaw they had stuff
Speaker 1: to go check out in the merch store and they
Speaker 1: had you know, I think that was the day we
Speaker 1: didn't stay. I think that was the Dave Marquete King
Speaker 1: like saying after the game.
Speaker 2: Or we didn't stay for the concert.
Speaker 1: But you know, they have things there. It's just getting
Speaker 1: people to the games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was another great they which they did
Speaker 2: not have in Saint Louis last year, was they had
Speaker 2: no merchandise out in the tailgating area or outside the stadium.
Speaker 2: Uh And in Saint Louis, So by the time that
Speaker 2: we were you know, my wife and I were there
Speaker 2: and we were like walking around outside and by the
Speaker 2: time we were going in, we're ready to go, you know,
Speaker 2: grab some drinks and some food and go to our seats.
Speaker 2: And then they had all that in there. Now there
Speaker 2: wasn't on the concourse there in Memphis, they had a
Speaker 2: they had a pretty nice setup and you know that
Speaker 2: was opened the whole time, so you had like plenty
Speaker 2: of time to go in there because there wasn't a
Speaker 2: whole lot to do outside. So that's always a good
Speaker 2: thing because I mean, and they had some like like
Speaker 2: some good under armor merchandise, had a lot of stuff there.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're ramping up like that's we have a
Speaker 1: question here about it. This is a failure in IP.
Speaker 1: But well we'll get to that. We'll we get to that.
Speaker 1: Uh So here we go. This is the big destroying
Speaker 1: game San Antonio and uh Michigan Panthers. Here out for field.
Speaker 1: Let me get that pulled up here this you know,
Speaker 1: the desjoint and made the big field goal. Was all
Speaker 1: excited and then they right then he missed one, but
Speaker 1: then he was the one to tie the game, and
Speaker 1: then they were like he was doing all the whatever.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about it in a minute, but let's get
Speaker 1: your general thoughts in the game in the world.
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing, I was surprised to see that
Speaker 2: Danny Etling take to take the starting quarterback snaps. I
Speaker 2: was like, I mean, Bryce Perkins has completely like to me,
Speaker 2: he was and this line is going to be misleading
Speaker 2: because Danny Etling got absolutely blown up.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit got murdered on TV.
Speaker 2: I was behind because I had just gotten back from
Speaker 2: Memphis and so I was about thirty minutes behind. And
Speaker 2: that's when you texted me, it's like Danny Etling just
Speaker 2: got murdered on television. So I was like waiting for
Speaker 2: that to happen. But I was just surprised that he started,
Speaker 2: really because I don't know. Again, Mike Nolan knows a
Speaker 2: lot more football than I'll ever know, but it just
Speaker 2: seemed to me, I don't know if he's trying to
Speaker 2: go two quarterbacks here, but Bryce Perkins continues to impress
Speaker 2: and he he comes into the game, and I mean,
Speaker 2: look what he did. So and then the San Antonio
Speaker 2: defense started to really get after him, you know, pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But then it's felt like he was starting to heat
Speaker 2: up in the second quarter, in the third quarter, and
Speaker 2: I know the fourth quarter was what you were really
Speaker 2: focused on.
Speaker 1: Here, well, football fans, Yeah, Danny ally wish is he
Speaker 1: didn't start the game because he did not finish well.
Speaker 1: But that was my thing and just and not to
Speaker 1: again like I have my one Donald thing here. I'll
Speaker 1: talk about this, but like like everything about the Bronx,
Speaker 1: it's not even really about like Wade Phillips there, it's
Speaker 1: like it's all the destroying show and it's when you
Speaker 1: when you pin everything around him and you know he right,
Speaker 1: he made the first kick and then missed the second
Speaker 1: kick and then missed the third, like you know, and
Speaker 1: they're oh he like he says he's good from sixty.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did it, And like, okay, we're doing
Speaker 1: the press game and they were doing this, Like I
Speaker 1: just I tweeted out, I said, I wish the UFL
Speaker 1: would promote their football league as much as they promote
Speaker 1: destroying because that is all I know, Like, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the new offensive. I mean, I know you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about like people stepping down, but let's
Speaker 1: like type that up. But I just it just kills
Speaker 1: me that, like that's technically like my team, and I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I I liked aj Smith and everyone, and
Speaker 1: I was more involved in them last year and you
Speaker 1: know before kind of all these people moved down. But
Speaker 1: like it kills me that that's all we have to
Speaker 1: kind of hang our hats on here in San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Wade Phillips, you know that he wasn't even
Speaker 2: on the sideline. They said he was in the locker
Speaker 2: room for the game because he was under the weather.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I understand. Maybe if you are continuing to
Speaker 2: try to bring in. You know, you're trying to bring
Speaker 2: in viewers, You're trying to bring in younger viewers. This
Speaker 2: has not worked. It has not worked with destroying. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he puts a lot of stuff on YouTube. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he probably put the highlights on there. He probably
Speaker 2: didn't put that kick on there. But it's not working.
Speaker 2: And I don't know we've talked to about this before.
Speaker 2: How you know, it's kind of like with the Luis
Speaker 2: Perez or the beer snake. It's like these are the
Speaker 2: things that they keep saying that we see all the time.
Speaker 2: The casual viewer might not see all the time. But
Speaker 2: I don't know that the whole destroying thing is working.
Speaker 2: I mean that for the first kick he made looked
Speaker 2: really good. That looked like it might have been good
Speaker 2: from sixty, but after that kind of went downhill.
Speaker 1: Well, and I had that Isaac Punts. I'll play the
Speaker 1: video here in the saying because I made my little
Speaker 1: funny montage of he's trying to miss O'donald missing. But
Speaker 1: like one of the quote truths I had, he was
Speaker 1: that Isaac Punts. And he has a YouTube like he's
Speaker 1: in special teams and he does YouTube. He goes. My
Speaker 1: problem with Destroying is that like the misses are so
Speaker 1: he misses so much, like it's not like, oh, justin
Speaker 1: Tucker and then okay, it just like it's it's that
Speaker 1: that one wasn't even close. And that to me is
Speaker 1: obviously when he feels like he's you know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the range or whatever, and then he's exerted.
Speaker 2: And that was that was something that we kind of
Speaker 2: we saw with Chris Blewett that was surprising. Yeah, uh, well,
Speaker 2: of course he's got it. Did you know that he
Speaker 2: has millions of followers on Instagram and YouTube? But yeah,
Speaker 2: we just it was not it was not a good
Speaker 2: day for for kickers. Uh in in in Memphis, although
Speaker 2: Houston did win the game and uh destroying Donald did not.
Speaker 1: Well, here we go so and I so this killed me.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here watching the game and I had
Speaker 1: someone call me or I would have been on it
Speaker 1: even quicker because I'm like, sit because I'm texting. I
Speaker 1: think we were texting back and forth. Oh man, if
Speaker 1: Donald misses this kick.
Speaker 2: To go there overtime, Mike, you said he's going to
Speaker 2: miss this, isn't he?
Speaker 1: Uh So I made this I think this is going
Speaker 1: to play the second I the second I played, so
Speaker 1: so we'll play this, and I said, I always wanted
Speaker 1: to do this, and it's setting something to the Titanic
Speaker 1: theme songs. I was, I've always wanted to do this.
Speaker 1: So this is Donald's kick set to the Titanic theme song.
Speaker 1: I'm for good. I'm pretty proud of my soul. John.
Speaker 2: It was good kick a man while he's down.
Speaker 1: Man. But like, but also, that's the dynamic, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even care like people like, well, you're still like,
Speaker 1: that's the dynamic. You're a professional athlete. I'm not like that.
Speaker 1: And who was it? It was Matthew. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'll pull it here talking to that because I want
Speaker 1: to pull up some on the really quart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you when you continue to build someone
Speaker 2: up like this like they do in these broadcasts, these
Speaker 2: things are going to happen. And when they do, you
Speaker 2: can't say, oh, well that's too bad or I mean,
Speaker 2: that's it's what's gonna happen. You're right, they're professional athletes,
Speaker 2: but I mean that's pretty hardcore.
Speaker 1: Duel says, destroying this five to seven, that's not terrible.
Speaker 1: Felt like that was when he missed he was rushing. Well, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: because he was She's in the camera, she's here. But
Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was Matthew and Matthew Sexton,
Speaker 1: who is a friend of mine, is on the team.
Speaker 1: He's plays for the prom especial teams. He goes, Man,
Speaker 1: I thought you were a cool dude. Why are you
Speaker 1: hating so much because you're playing the games. I have
Speaker 1: to watch them bend over backwards to talk about Donald
Speaker 1: every eighteen seconds on my TV. So he gets it,
Speaker 1: and Matthew Sexton gets it. He goes, Okay, whatever, and
Speaker 1: then we said, yeah, I like that. But I mean
Speaker 1: that was my takeaway of that game. Obviously we saw
Speaker 1: that the Brahma get a bounce back with aj Smith
Speaker 1: and all that. How do we feel going in the
Speaker 1: next week, and then we'll move on to the Defenders game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to I can't remember who they're
Speaker 2: playing here. Uh, but yes, no, I think this is
Speaker 2: again they're the best OHEN three team. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: said that again about Memphis.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But there was improvement. You're seeing improvement week over week.
Speaker 2: I go back to Kellen mand and this added dimension
Speaker 2: of him running the ball a little bit more because
Speaker 2: he is an active player. I mean he is, he is,
Speaker 2: he has a he gives you a much more. He
Speaker 2: gives you more of an offense when he starts to run,
Speaker 2: and he can really do that. He did it in
Speaker 2: college and we saw that a lot more. And they
Speaker 2: put in some places for that, you know, designed runs RPOs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I I will say, I think this is a
Speaker 2: team that that does have a shot to get to
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So let's move in here. Oh god, they just they
Speaker 1: make this so hard to pull up.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh they played. They play the defenders, that's what
Speaker 2: they play.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there, that could be tough, all right, So
Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, well we'll do the games overthing,
Speaker 1: all right. So we got here. Yeah, defenders at battle Hawks.
Speaker 1: This was the big battle hockey and it's this big
Speaker 1: illustrious home field advantage for the battle Hawks. You can
Speaker 1: never win at home, right, defenders here at three and
Speaker 1: the exciting game. A lot of turnovers, right, and we
Speaker 1: had a Jordan Talamu with a couple of interceptions and
Speaker 1: Wilkins with a bunch of interceptions. Thoughts on this one,
Speaker 1: I have some funny comments effort.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it was a you saw. I think
Speaker 2: it was a twelve nothing DC start there, Like they
Speaker 2: started to really get after after the BattleHawks. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know many started to use his legs. I mean that
Speaker 2: is like one of I mean that is strong when
Speaker 2: he that, But there's just you know, Frank Darby had
Speaker 2: hay out a great catch in that for the touchdown.
Speaker 2: But it just felt like again the DC defense taking
Speaker 2: nothing away. I mean DC defense was strong there, especially
Speaker 2: in the second half. Jacob Sailors continues to be a
Speaker 2: workhorse for the battle Hawks. He is so fun to watch.
Speaker 2: But that that Wilkins interception that I was thinking, it's
Speaker 2: about a minute and a half to go. I mean,
Speaker 2: you just can't. You can't make that play. You can't
Speaker 2: try to make that play where you're thrown across your
Speaker 2: body and try. I mean, he would have been better
Speaker 2: off to try to throw it away. I just it
Speaker 2: was he just had a bad game. And you know
Speaker 2: there it had happened before when he was filling in
Speaker 2: for aj mccaeron he actually won a game. I think
Speaker 2: it was him that won a game when Aj mccern
Speaker 2: was hurt either last year or year before. But then
Speaker 2: there were other times that he played and he's like,
Speaker 2: that was kind of the Manny Wilkins that we saw
Speaker 2: and that might have been why he wasn't, you know,
Speaker 2: getting as much playing time. But let's you know this,
Speaker 2: this is a snap shot of the week. He was
Speaker 2: playing a very good defense, and Manny Wilkins, I think,
Speaker 2: is is the answer. I don't you know, I thought
Speaker 2: they were going to try a two quarterback system. He
Speaker 2: noticed that Anthony Beck did not put in Max Duggan
Speaker 2: in there like for you know, any lenth the time,
Speaker 2: if at all. So that's that's not the answer either.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of my takeaway. I mean, the
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway was when the announcement was going to be, Oh,
Speaker 2: they got this big announcement coming up at halftime, maybe
Speaker 2: this is when we're gonna find out who are the
Speaker 2: expansion teams, because we all love expansion talk, and it was, oh,
Speaker 2: Saint Louis is gonna host the championship again, all right,
Speaker 2: So I mean it just it felt like kind of
Speaker 2: air let him out of balloon.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, let me comment on that, because I do
Speaker 1: have comments about the game. We might go five minutes
Speaker 1: over guys, just I'll try to keep it here close
Speaker 1: because I know it's even later for John here as normally,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. Yeah. So obviously they had the
Speaker 1: announcement of the Oh, they had the announcements coming to halftime.
Speaker 1: Everyone knew it was the championship I and people like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you think they're yeah, the expansion. I go, it's
Speaker 1: the halftime thing. What bothered me more even than that
Speaker 1: was the like I saw the clip I must have
Speaker 1: been in the post afterward with Danny Garcia talking and like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, like Saint Louis and they're so great, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of all this stuff. You guys like, if it
Speaker 1: weren't for Saint Louis, you guys would be so sol
Speaker 1: right now, Like it's not even funny. Was kind of
Speaker 1: my was kind of my takeaway of it, was like
Speaker 1: I would thank God every day right now that the
Speaker 1: battle Hawks in twenty twenty and what was that Kurt
Speaker 1: herb Street and or what was it? No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: What the hell was the guy's name that ran the team?
Speaker 1: What was the guy? You know, the team president for
Speaker 1: the battle Hawks. Everyone knows this. Someone plays a Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They moved on to the baseball. They played for the
Speaker 1: baseball anyway, Right, But I go, I would thank God
Speaker 1: every day that like all of this was done for you.
Speaker 1: You are the you were the example of waking up
Speaker 1: on third and thinking you hit it, like there could
Speaker 1: not be more blatant, been like, well, you know, and
Speaker 1: all this hard work we've done here, Like what hard
Speaker 1: work you haven't? You were? The attendancyer is down every
Speaker 1: year since you've taken over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's almost like you're you're having
Speaker 2: it there by Yes, yeah, had Kurt Street in my
Speaker 2: head too, but you're I mean, the Saint Louis is
Speaker 2: built in it That Saint Louis right now is built
Speaker 2: for spring football, much like d C was when the
Speaker 2: NFL team in d C was bad. Uh, Saint Louis
Speaker 2: is again as a as A really good quote that
Speaker 2: I saw in a recent ESPN article that was for
Speaker 2: me was that, you know this, it was kind of
Speaker 2: the middle finger to Stan Kronkey who took the Rams out.
Speaker 2: So I think that's to me, it's it's like a
Speaker 2: perfect recipe for success. You have fans who are hardcore
Speaker 2: football fans who want foot and they got somebody to
Speaker 2: rail against to can go show them, Yes, this is
Speaker 2: this is what we want. So yeah, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: it's the UFL or the XFL that had built this up.
Speaker 2: I think it's Saint Louis that's built this up.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just flashions for comments, David, no doubt read
Speaker 1: if the league exists in five years, say loose would
Speaker 1: be the reason. Even though no Battlehawk's game the Dome
Speaker 1: without dry You know what, exactly one seeded at downs
Speaker 1: and dems is less than twenty nine people will pay attention.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do a couple of game comments and
Speaker 1: then that we have a couple of general comments, we'll
Speaker 1: get out. Uh so hear about this, David, just talking
Speaker 1: how about like William's fortune over three sacks? But here
Speaker 1: was my question, So Dynamite Gaming DC simply dominated the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage rushes too much. I saw some chirping
Speaker 1: on Twitter with DC defenders coaches like hey, like Reggie
Speaker 1: Barlow was commenting and stuff like hey, I thought we
Speaker 1: were all gonna fall apart with Greg Williams and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and like, uh, I can't remember what he said.
Speaker 1: I think I have a bookmark. We have it. Reggie
Speaker 1: was like, ooh, tea or what I was I go, okay,
Speaker 1: but hey, look at this DC gutted and Greg Williams.
Speaker 1: That was this week also right with AJS, Like my
Speaker 1: week was was wiped and that was also this week
Speaker 1: with Greg Williams leaving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this week it's happening. It's happening faster than Yeah,
Speaker 2: this was this was Blake was This was his Yeah,
Speaker 2: Blake Williams first uh, first game as the defensive coordinator. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it held Saint Louis, a very good Saint Louis
Speaker 2: team to what one hundred and sixty something yards of offense,
Speaker 2: So yeah, no taking. And he also sounds exactly like
Speaker 2: his dad when he's playing, when he's calling plays. It
Speaker 2: was incredible.
Speaker 1: And then here's my last coming here. David Manny was
Speaker 1: was many exposed. This is the first time Battle Hawks
Speaker 1: had to play from behind and he was forced to through. Also,
Speaker 1: this ton of I felt like a lot of pressure,
Speaker 1: a lot of running in Tiamu too. It felt like,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Lions and everything in this league
Speaker 1: and trying to get up to speed, but you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of scrambling obviously pays dividends in these leagues
Speaker 1: with you know, the the lack of offensive line. But what
Speaker 1: did you think of it? David's comment there.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's right. And if you saw many
Speaker 2: at the when he's sitting on the bench, he looked
Speaker 2: like Rocky at the end of the I mean he
Speaker 2: was like bloody on one side. I mean that last
Speaker 2: one of the last hits, his helmet came off, and
Speaker 2: so they were really pressuring him. But you're right as
Speaker 2: far as being exposed, this is the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that we saw when he was under pressure. He was
Speaker 2: just making some really bad passes. Now, I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of quarterbacks can look good, you know, behind an
Speaker 2: offensive line that that's solid and and they can run
Speaker 2: and they have a running game, and that is what
Speaker 2: the BattleHawks have. But I don't think they faced the
Speaker 2: defense like like they saw in DC before. I don't
Speaker 2: think that at all.
Speaker 1: I do it here if DC continues to be a
Speaker 1: successful at Channon Harris wanted to stay as a head coach,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the pay for a head coach in
Speaker 2: the UFL be more than a QB. I mean maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not even a money thing. It's like us want
Speaker 1: to be right, Well, it's a resume thing. Do I
Speaker 1: want to be bumping shoulders and kind of in this
Speaker 1: for the next six months or there. That's kind of
Speaker 1: how I would look out. Like sometimes I might take
Speaker 1: a lesser paining I'm freelance. I might take a lesser
Speaker 1: paying gig and I'm just making up Hawaii then like
Speaker 1: making more money to go to Boise, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Hey, boys, he's pretty cool, but it's not Hawaii. You're right,
Speaker 2: h Yeah, I don't know that. I think that's a
Speaker 2: good question. I think Shannon Harris is really doing a
Speaker 2: good job so far. I mean, you know, and that
Speaker 2: Reggie Barlow was right. I thought they'd fall apart, and
Speaker 2: then you know, there was so much turmoil. I think
Speaker 2: that's been one of the good things that we have seen,
Speaker 2: uh is there's fire. There's some stability now after three weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean it was like before the season started, you
Speaker 2: had Reggie Barlow leaving, you had Ken wizen Hunt you know,
Speaker 2: out for we didn't know how long it was. Luckily
Speaker 2: it was only a week. Then you know, you have
Speaker 2: aj Smith stepping down, you had you know, whatever was
Speaker 2: going on with wayde Phillips. Uh, like one week he
Speaker 2: was up in the booth, and then there was you know,
Speaker 2: then last week he was in the locker room, so
Speaker 2: you know, hopeful all is well with him. But now
Speaker 2: it feels like there's a little bit of stability. You know,
Speaker 2: those things can change, you know, on a dime, but
Speaker 2: you know, so so far, I think that's been the
Speaker 2: one positive thing that we're starting to see better games,
Speaker 2: coaching stability, players stability. We haven't heard a peep or
Speaker 2: I haven't anyway about any kind of labor issues. So
Speaker 2: I mean those are all good positive things.
Speaker 1: The quest we have a question here. The one thing
Speaker 1: for me about the coaches leaving and I because that
Speaker 1: was yeah, it was yeah when Greg Williams left, And
Speaker 1: I because I think you had sent me the article
Speaker 1: and I just tweeted out, like things go from bad
Speaker 1: to worse for the UFL. Yeah, Everyone's like again, I
Speaker 1: thought that was like a that was a pretty safe
Speaker 1: like wow, another coordinators leaving, Like that's not a good thing, right,
Speaker 1: You're an idiot. No one's like, am I go to me,
Speaker 1: it's not even that like Greg Williams is leaving or
Speaker 1: like does anyone care that Greg is? It's like the
Speaker 1: way I view it and this is this isn't the mean,
Speaker 1: it's reality. Is I care? And this isn't just the
Speaker 1: Greg Williams any of these coaches leaving. It's the pay
Speaker 1: and whatever. At this I'm not really concerned, Like I
Speaker 1: can burn this bridge to go to another bridge because
Speaker 1: I don't view myself going back here and that's just
Speaker 1: not a good place to be at from the league standpoint.
Speaker 1: Like that's my my fear, right, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like because like Nathan asked on Twitter, and I hate
Speaker 1: to like throw my other body is like do you
Speaker 1: think anyone's like going to DC games? Because I go,
Speaker 1: well no, But like you, when these people keep leaving
Speaker 1: and not caring, it just speaks to like, well, clearly
Speaker 1: they're not leaving a lot if they're happy to just
Speaker 1: like walk out the door. I know people have other
Speaker 1: work and like Greg wanted to go work at Tennessee
Speaker 1: and they the scouting time, but like whatever and all
Speaker 1: these comments, but like it just doesn't look good. It's
Speaker 1: not a good look. It doesn't continue to look good when,
Speaker 1: especially in the same day, when two people midweek leave,
Speaker 1: two coordinators of eight teams, like there's sixteen coordinators or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of them. But you know, like
Speaker 1: it's just right, can we admit that, Like that's like
Speaker 1: not the best look.
Speaker 2: No, it's not only my and Mike and Leon both
Speaker 2: bring up good points. Anthony Beck was looking you know,
Speaker 2: he was pretty open about West Virginia. There was also
Speaker 2: reports and as Leon pointed out, there were reports about
Speaker 2: him looking at the at a Jets coordinator job. So
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's not a good look. If this
Speaker 2: is you understand it. I mean we all understand that.
Speaker 2: But as a league, when you start to see these
Speaker 2: kind of headlines, those are the thing gets in headlines
Speaker 2: because it was funny when Greg Williams left. I saw
Speaker 2: a headline from it. I don't even remember where it was,
Speaker 2: but it was controversial NFL coach leaves job for It's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. And then you know you click it,
Speaker 2: you see it's like, oh, it's Greg Williams who used
Speaker 2: to coach in the NFL, and that was controversial that
Speaker 2: he's going to go to Tennessee State and he was
Speaker 2: a coordinator for the UFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that to me, I'm just like, it's just
Speaker 1: not a good look. I get it, Like I get
Speaker 1: why people are doing I get what, but it's just
Speaker 1: and I would like the UFL or you know, like
Speaker 1: the CFL, like people aren't just leaving CFL jobs for
Speaker 1: the most part to like go hop on and do
Speaker 1: like you want to be at a point where the
Speaker 1: job that I'm at at least good enough for me
Speaker 1: to finish the like the job that I'm at and
Speaker 1: then move on like you should be above like replacement
Speaker 1: level job. Is that? Like is that a crazy statement?
Speaker 2: Job after replacement? Is that the stat you're looking at?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they appreciate. Yeah, here we go
Speaker 1: the further replacement. Yeah, we're gonna have the replacement pretty soon.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Shane Falco calder Reeves like running around
Speaker 1: here and coaching real quick. This is super quick. Here,
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. I'm on the pack just
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah. So we talked about this Michigan at
Speaker 1: home Saint Louis here a couple of midday games going
Speaker 1: up against WrestleMania their Saturday Sunday with the Roughnecks Stallions,
Speaker 1: and then the DC Defenders should be good. I mean,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see if the Brahmas have
Speaker 1: some juice there. What's standing out to you for week four.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's good that they're playing those, you know,
Speaker 2: the Sunday games later, you know, being Easter Sunday. I
Speaker 2: understand you're not gonna have a noon kickoff. I think
Speaker 2: what is it five and eight? Is that what they're doing? Uh? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that I mean that makes sense and that's smart. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's always tough, as you said, when
Speaker 2: you have spring football. A lot of different things happened
Speaker 2: in spring. It's gonna I'm interested to see what San
Speaker 2: Antonio does and is there a bounce back here for
Speaker 2: for Saint Louis. I think those are the two main
Speaker 2: things that I'm looking for this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll figure out and like I said, next
Speaker 1: week and maybe we'll do something, or maybe we'll come
Speaker 1: on and just shoot the breeze. Don't know, we'll see,
Speaker 1: but it might be like a loose episode next week
Speaker 1: if no one's if it's like Easter, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like no one did their homework because maybe people aren't
Speaker 1: watching either. Like maybe next week we're just kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: now no one, none of us watch the games here,
Speaker 1: let's just kind of be asked.
Speaker 2: Let's let's deep dive into one game because I know
Speaker 2: I can watch that at least on the treadmill or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. This is my last comment. They
Speaker 1: just made me laugh and then I'll tell my story.
Speaker 1: We'll get out of here. No, that wasn't that one
Speaker 1: where well, yeah, Lise Fan said, is this a failure
Speaker 1: or are we in the year four of spring football
Speaker 1: with talks have expanded? Fan. I think that's a very loaded,
Speaker 1: fair question. And I think either is is I think
Speaker 1: either is fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we Yeah, we get a little negative
Speaker 2: on here. That's true sometimes because we're fearful because history
Speaker 2: has been a history has been a teacher for us
Speaker 2: and a lot of things. But that is a very
Speaker 2: good point. We're in year four and there is talk
Speaker 2: of expansion. Uh, and I think it is serious talk. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then last year, yeah, Liam was hagging you then
Speaker 1: got the UFL with these copy of really yeah the
Speaker 1: I f a staff today, I'm like.
Speaker 2: That wasn't crazy, Like, I mean, it's not really a surprise,
Speaker 2: but like, and then the four teams were going to
Speaker 2: like split off and make their own thing, and.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. And then I see them tweet I
Speaker 1: we were talking in the group chat that the i
Speaker 1: f A is like the MLF football like in disguise.
Speaker 2: Like it is. I mean, but it's going to kick
Speaker 2: off next year and next year and next year.
Speaker 1: No. No last week for me. So John remember last
Speaker 1: week and I was like we yo. I was starting
Speaker 1: to feel sick kind of like midway through the show
Speaker 1: and I was like John, we got off the show.
Speaker 1: It was like John, I got to get out. I
Speaker 1: was sick from Monday. We got off the show at
Speaker 1: four and I immediately went in and threw up. I
Speaker 1: think I had food poisoning. I did not really eat
Speaker 1: solids till about Friday. Like I was very, very very sick.
Speaker 1: I I room serviced a bagel a to bagel to
Speaker 1: my hotel room about ten o'clock on Wednesday night to
Speaker 1: see if I could eat something. But I could not
Speaker 1: keep solids down Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday until about ten
Speaker 1: o'clock that show and I podcast through John, you know
Speaker 1: we no. I like that was I I literally like,
Speaker 1: was ht the point where that's how sick? I was
Speaker 1: like I can't. I came home. I came home and
Speaker 1: I go like I I I have suffered from like
Speaker 1: any disorders in my life, so I can talk about
Speaker 1: this like very very openly. But I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of excited to weigh myself because I wanted to see, Like,
Speaker 1: because I had gotten to be such a fatty, I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to see. I mean, I'm over it now.
Speaker 1: But no, I Leon, I think I lost like many pounds,
Speaker 1: So it was good. I'm ready for Vegas. I'm in
Speaker 1: pools shape.
Speaker 2: You are? You got guns? Are out? Ready to go?
Speaker 1: Any there? Anything else from you, John before we get out?
Speaker 2: No, I think you know. Again, on a positive note,
Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, I think this was the best week,
Speaker 2: and I think what we saw again the point you
Speaker 2: brought up, we're starting to see these teams play together,
Speaker 2: practice together, and they're much better. So that was I think.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's this is a trend that will continue and
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll see some of these ratings and attendances start
Speaker 2: to move this way too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I didn't. I did. I did not
Speaker 1: have the VID. I I have been traveling for work
Speaker 1: sickly for a month, off and on for a month,
Speaker 1: and I have been sick some portion of that the
Speaker 1: entire time. In terms of a head colt or a
Speaker 1: stomach like a stomach bug or I think I had
Speaker 1: sinus whatever, and then food poisoning. So like I'm ready
Speaker 1: to just not be I would just like to be, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can stay at home and be sick.
Speaker 1: But it's it's really bad. John getting on a plane
Speaker 1: and flying to Orlando.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Listen, players are supposed to be not
Speaker 2: healthy during the season, not people who just sit and
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, I'm very excited. I think
Speaker 1: this was a great week. We'll figure out next week
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But no, like this is the
Speaker 1: best balance. A couple of decent games, some funny things
Speaker 1: to talk about. Donald missed a kick like that. That's
Speaker 1: all I need to you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And like people are, oh, you're like, it's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay to be critical about stuff. All Right, We'll
Speaker 1: get out of here and we'll see you guys next time.
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Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you guys.
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