Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costin's Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome on back. So last hour we
Speaker 2: had I thought a really interesting conversation with Boston Globe
Speaker 2: opinion writer and also a member of the Globe's editorial board,
Speaker 2: which is a group of very influential people at the
Speaker 2: Globe who determine the editorial positions at the Globe. And
Speaker 2: many of the editorial positions are non ideological, by the way,
Speaker 2: But following on our conversation with Karin Hashar about the
Speaker 2: successful campaign of this Democratic socialist, Zoran Mandami, and if
Speaker 2: you're a democratic socialist, you know, please do what you
Speaker 2: can to support this guy. That's your right, and I
Speaker 2: commend you on it. I just think that as he
Speaker 2: becomes a major figure in the Democratic Party at the
Speaker 2: age of thirty three, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 2: of people across the country in states that are very
Speaker 2: uncharacteristically are absolutely totally different from New York, who are
Speaker 2: going to react with a lot of concern about the
Speaker 2: direction of the Democratic Party. We had earlier this week
Speaker 2: Sean O'Brien, president of the Teamster's Union. They chose not
Speaker 2: to endorse. He represents one point three million union members.
Speaker 2: And when you take the one point three union members
Speaker 2: and you amplify that with the spouses, the friends, the
Speaker 2: family members, the relatives of those union members, you're talking
Speaker 2: about a significant number of voters. Not to say that
Speaker 2: they all voted one way or the other, but union
Speaker 2: leaders are not to be underestimated. So in addition to
Speaker 2: our conversation with Kareem Heshar of the Boston Globe, there
Speaker 2: was an article in the Herald today which, as I
Speaker 2: think most of you know, when I do the program
Speaker 2: and we put the program together during the day, sometimes
Speaker 2: we try to mix and match stories that, if not
Speaker 2: compliment one another, are kind of related to one another.
Speaker 2: It's almost like matching a wine with a dinner. You know,
Speaker 2: you go to a restaurant and you ask the waiter, gee,
Speaker 2: I'm having beef or I'm having fish or chicken or whatever,
Speaker 2: and they will then say, well, i'd suggest this or
Speaker 2: suggest that. So piece by Lance Reynolds in the Boston
Speaker 2: Herald today. Lance is someone who I know is pretty
Speaker 2: very good writer. So he talked with Massachusetts Congressman Jake Auchincloss. Now,
Speaker 2: Jake Auchenclaus I think has a future in the Democratic
Speaker 2: Party here in Massachusetts. He's young, like Seth Moulton, he's
Speaker 2: a veteran and they're both young, and they both served.
Speaker 2: And this is at a time when people were not
Speaker 2: being drafted, didn't have to serve, didn't have to sign up.
Speaker 2: So Argen Class has laid out some concerns and according
Speaker 2: to the article, he is tired of having to ask
Speaker 2: CBS clerks and whether you're talking about Walgreens, CVS, whatever
Speaker 2: drug store you whatever pharmacy you go to, whatever drug
Speaker 2: store or convenience store you go to, to unlock products,
Speaker 2: pointing out how he believes Democrats need to police to
Speaker 2: improve their policing of quality of life violations to save
Speaker 2: the party. Now that's interesting theory. What does he mean
Speaker 2: by that? He's laid out five ways. And by the way,
Speaker 2: we will have we have a commitment from Congressman Argenclaus's
Speaker 2: office to have him join us either Monday, Tuesday, or
Speaker 2: Wednesday next week and talk about this. We were trying
Speaker 2: to get him on tonight, but he was committed elsewhere
Speaker 2: Democratic mayors. This is Jake archinclass talking about Democratic mayors
Speaker 2: can improve education, affordability and Lauren Order including a suggestion,
Speaker 2: quoting now from Lance Reynolds piece, that the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: take a different approach to addressing quote, degradations to public
Speaker 2: order unquote. He implifies on that drug use, loitering, hanhandling, encampments,
Speaker 2: think about mass and casts, vandalism, shoplifting, those compound into lawlessness.
Speaker 2: According to a blog that the congressman put up on
Speaker 2: his website Tuesday night, quote, there's nothing compassionate or progressive
Speaker 2: about permitting them unquote. He goes on to day in
Speaker 2: I think every time a customer has to ask the
Speaker 2: CVS clerk. There are a lot of cvs is in
Speaker 2: his district, so it could be any any one of
Speaker 2: these stores, Walgreens or whatever. To unlock the shampoo. Democrats
Speaker 2: get less popular. Aarcking class added, policing high public standards
Speaker 2: can create positive feedback loops for law in order. He
Speaker 2: was reacting specifically to the mayor o primary that the
Speaker 2: numbers that started to commit on Tuesday night, this individual,
Speaker 2: Zorron Mendani, the thirty three year old Democratic Socialist, had
Speaker 2: declared victory.
Speaker 3: So again, this is this is this is a Massachusetts
Speaker 3: congressman reacting to the to the election results in New
Speaker 3: York City Mendami if he defeats incumbent Eric Adams in November,
Speaker 3: has said hit look to create a network of city
Speaker 3: run grocery stores.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a swell idea. That's a swell idea. This
Speaker 2: idea has caught back lists from business owners and customers.
Speaker 2: This is what Lance Reynolds writes, running big cities. Well,
Speaker 2: we're now back to Arkan Class is a vital way
Speaker 2: for Democrats to earn back voters trust after the catastrophic
Speaker 2: school closures and increase in crime. Violent and property crime
Speaker 2: are the most important to prevent, the base day congressman said,
Speaker 2: but degregations to public order also matter. Arcan Class sparked
Speaker 2: criticism earlier this year when he actually had the audacity
Speaker 2: to vote for the Lake and Riley Act, The bill,
Speaker 2: named after the twenty two year old Georgia nursing student
Speaker 2: murdered by an illegal immigrant, change federal law to require
Speaker 2: ICE to detain and deport I legal immigrants who commit burglary, theft, larcening,
Speaker 2: and shoplifting. Arkan Class set in a statement at the
Speaker 2: time that the bill undermines the constitution without improving out
Speaker 2: a security. Shoplifting remains prevalent in Massachusetts. I'm confused by
Speaker 2: that statement that Reynolds has attributed to auchen Class here
Speaker 2: that we'll ask auchen Class about that Hayden's approach. Then
Speaker 2: he talks about Kevin Hayden, the district attorney in Souffolk County,
Speaker 2: who I don't think is that a great job, by
Speaker 2: the way, but that's well, we'll talk about that. He's
Speaker 2: probably an improvement over Rachel Rollins. So the point is this,
Speaker 2: have you recently gone into a store and wanted and
Speaker 2: I have and wanted to buy a product and you
Speaker 2: realize that the product, and in some cases there's like
Speaker 2: a couple of tubes of toothpaste maybe worth fifteen bucks,
Speaker 2: is under lock and key. Now, maybe not where you live,
Speaker 2: but maybe where poor people live, because I think that
Speaker 2: there's more of this petty theft of vandalism, which puts
Speaker 2: mom and pop stars out of business, by the way,
Speaker 2: in communities.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's primarily in democratic cities. And these are the
Speaker 2: issues that the Democrats have not paid attention to. And
Speaker 2: I think that Jake Arkinclaus Congressman Arking Class is calling
Speaker 2: their attention to these these situations because these are quality
Speaker 2: of life issues that affect people. Look, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of quality of life issues dealing with the price of gasoline,
Speaker 2: which is still down, grocery store items which not as
Speaker 2: bad as maybe most people thought. Are there some items
Speaker 2: that have gone up? Yeah, but the items that have
Speaker 2: gone up to the items that I walk by. I
Speaker 2: don't need to buy these expensive cookies anymore. I can
Speaker 2: stick with my oreos. Okay, you want to charge me
Speaker 2: eight dollars for a box of cookies or a bag
Speaker 2: of cookies, not me, not me. So I'd love to
Speaker 2: know what your experience. Do you agree with Congress Bannakin
Speaker 2: class I do, And as a matter of fact, I
Speaker 2: have more respect for him because he is taking a
Speaker 2: position within his party that is going to be criticized
Speaker 2: by some in his party. He is basically putting a
Speaker 2: stake in the ground and saying, hey, we're going in
Speaker 2: the wrong direction. We're sliding off to the extreme left,
Speaker 2: and we are not expressing and showing sufficient concern for
Speaker 2: the vast majority of people who just are simply looking
Speaker 2: to live their lives, go to work, pay their taxes,
Speaker 2: raise their kids, and maybe get a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: vacation in the summertime, and that is what the Democrats,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, have forgotten about. And that's why Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: who I have plenty of criticism with in terms of
Speaker 2: stylistically and in some cases the way he's handled issues.
Speaker 2: Although some of his issues, I think he's done a
Speaker 2: good job. And I will give him credit when he's right,
Speaker 2: and I'll criticize him when he's wrong, just as I
Speaker 2: will criticize Democrats, and when they're right. As Jake Auchenclaus
Speaker 2: is right, I will say good for you, Jake Auchenclaus,
Speaker 2: because you're bringing your party back to where most Americans,
Speaker 2: where most Democrats really want to be. And also, by
Speaker 2: the way, forget the Democrats and the Republicans. Races in
Speaker 2: America now are determined by people who have no affiliation
Speaker 2: with either party. They are the independents, the unenrolled. I'm
Speaker 2: unenrolled in Massachusetts with the equivalent of being independent. The
Speaker 2: vast majority of voters in Massachusetts are neither Democrat nor Republican.
Speaker 2: I think the Republicans have about eleven percent, the Democrats
Speaker 2: have about thirty percent. The vast majority in Massachusetts are unenrolled.
Speaker 2: But as an unenrolled voter When I hear someone like
Speaker 2: Jake Auchincloss make these comments or Seth Molten makes these comments,
Speaker 2: I will say, hey, there's still hope for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: There's still hope for a two party system in America,
Speaker 2: which we need, just like we need a two party
Speaker 2: system in Massachusetts. These are familiar themes to Nightside. Whether
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Speaker 2: So comments that Democratic Congressman Jake uchenclass made about quality
Speaker 2: of life issues, and I think he is spot on
Speaker 2: whether you are a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear your reaction to his observations, because I
Speaker 2: do think that it's the little things in life. If
Speaker 2: you read again the article today by Kareein Hajar in
Speaker 2: The Boston Globe, she talked about riding the subways in
Speaker 2: New York City and having been exposed literally to virtually
Speaker 2: everything you could imagine. I mean, it's it's quality of
Speaker 2: life issues, quality of life issues that if people, if
Speaker 2: the Democrats can't run big cities effectively and allow people
Speaker 2: to feel safe, and and and and there will be stores.
Speaker 2: And this is what aucken class is talking about. I
Speaker 2: joined the conversation. I got some wide open lines here.
Speaker 2: I think he's hit upon a nerve. And if you've
Speaker 2: ever been in this situation where you go into a
Speaker 2: store and you have to find something that's under lock
Speaker 2: and key, and I have done that at a Target store,
Speaker 2: I can remember, and I think it was I forget
Speaker 2: it was some small item I was looking for for
Speaker 2: some reason, uh maybe because it was small and people
Speaker 2: were walking out the door with it. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: At eleven o'clock, we're going to change topics and we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about the Pentagon News conference today with
Speaker 2: General Dan Kane, which I think has left uh pretty
Speaker 2: strong impressions. Bill is in Pennsylvania. Bill, welcome next on
Speaker 2: Nightsacer right ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, I've seen I didn't know Jake Arkincloss. Is
Speaker 5: he Massachusetts government?
Speaker 6: I mean congressman, Yeah, from he's actually from what we
Speaker 6: call the fourth Congressional district, which is uh A, Newton
Speaker 6: in Brookline, which are two of the more affluent suburbs
Speaker 6: of Boston, and runs down to the uh to the
Speaker 6: southeast corner of the state.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, I know, I know the other seth Moulton.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: I think both of them are Marines, right.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Milton is up in the northeast corner of
Speaker 2: the state, up bordering New Hampshire in the up you
Speaker 2: know the state Salem, New Salem, Massachusetts and cities.
Speaker 5: Well I I yeah, I've seen them both on TV.
Speaker 7: Dan.
Speaker 5: I honor them for their for their uh military uh
Speaker 5: uh stay in the military. But I can tell you, uh,
Speaker 5: these two gentlemen right here, Okay. One thing I hope
Speaker 5: that when you have them on, if you ask him,
Speaker 5: can you give me can you show me one time okay,
Speaker 5: when when Biden had his open border policy, the Democrats
Speaker 5: had their open border policy. Jake, show me one time, okay,
Speaker 5: one tweet anything that that you said, we have an
Speaker 5: open border, okay, and we need to take care of
Speaker 5: the open border because this this stuff about Now where
Speaker 5: I live, I don't have to worry about, you know,
Speaker 5: stuff being locked up, Dan, But if I go down
Speaker 5: to Harrisburg into Harrisburg Central. Okay, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania be in
Speaker 5: our capital over here if I go into if I
Speaker 5: go in there and uh, and then then that's the
Speaker 5: case in certain parts of it of Harrisburg.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you that. Let me ask
Speaker 2: you here's a question. Okay, who I don't know who
Speaker 2: the mayor of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania is. I suspect you probably do.
Speaker 2: Is that mayor a Democrat or a Republican?
Speaker 5: It's been Democrats forever, Dan, It's a sanctuary. It's one
Speaker 5: of Pennsylvania sanctuary city.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: See, there's a commonality here. And by the way, my
Speaker 2: attitude is when someone agrees with you on an issue,
Speaker 2: it's better to create that relationship as opposed to immediately saying,
Speaker 2: well we might agree on that, but there was another
Speaker 2: couple of issues you didn't do enough on. I just
Speaker 2: think that it's always smarter to it's always smarted to
Speaker 2: try to build alliances than to blow up bridges.
Speaker 5: I agree with I agree with that. But this open
Speaker 5: border policy for for four years under Biden, Dan, that
Speaker 5: that was one of the big, big, big problems.
Speaker 2: And but they need to be asked, you have listened
Speaker 2: to my show a lot. How much did I? I
Speaker 2: used to go after President Biden on open borders. Uh
Speaker 2: and and Mariorcas, who was a total disgrace. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Mariorcas was running the government on that policy
Speaker 2: or if he thought that's what Joe Biden wanted. I
Speaker 2: don't think Joe Biden if he was really compassment this
Speaker 2: for the entire four years with a lot of that's happened,
Speaker 2: that's led that led directly to Donald Trump's election. I mean,
Speaker 2: that was the greatest gift the Democrats ever could have
Speaker 2: given to Donald Trump. It wasn't a gift that it
Speaker 2: gave to to America, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and the impeachments and also the indictments.
Speaker 5: But listen, I totally agree with you. Okay, Well, I
Speaker 5: listen to your show almost every night. But you know
Speaker 5: you've gone after, You've gone after these people. But these
Speaker 5: young these young congressmen need to ask me, asked these questions,
Speaker 5: and I would ask one other question. I would ask
Speaker 5: these both of them. Okay, well you endorse Adams, Okay,
Speaker 5: ask him.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I think that's now that is a very legitimate question.
Speaker 2: That is a very legitimate question, and it's it's a
Speaker 2: relevant question because I believe that auchen Class, as this
Speaker 2: article suggests, posted on his website Tuesday night, and I
Speaker 2: think that he that that is what caused him to
Speaker 2: post that, and I will ask him that we expect
Speaker 2: to talk with Congressman Auchen Class. I believe e the Monday,
Speaker 2: Tuesday or Wednesday, Okay.
Speaker 5: Yes, and and and I remember a few months ago
Speaker 5: Dan Seth Moulten okay, came out and said how bad, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, how bad mentally Joe Biden was. But it
Speaker 5: was it was after Joe Biden dropped out that Seth
Speaker 5: Maulten said that you can go back and look at that.
Speaker 2: And I agree, But here's the deal. What wait second,
Speaker 2: hold on for a second. If you're trying to build
Speaker 2: a bridge to someone, Look, there were Republicans who stuck
Speaker 2: loyally to President Reagan. Now I never felt that that
Speaker 2: Reagan was anywhere near nearly as diminished as Biden was
Speaker 2: in his second term, but they were a lot of
Speaker 2: Democrats who were saying, well, you know, Reagan's going to
Speaker 2: sleep and Reagan's doing this, and Reagan I thought Reagan
Speaker 2: had two really good terms as president. I think Joe
Speaker 2: Biden had a disastrous term and there was only his
Speaker 2: first term, which is why he didn't get a second term.
Speaker 5: Well, Igan, Reagan didn't have an open border policy and
Speaker 5: then left it didn't.
Speaker 2: No, Bill, Bill, you're missing my point. What I'm saying
Speaker 2: is many of the same Democrats who were questioning Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan's capacity, his intellectual capacity. He was seventy years old
Speaker 2: when he finished as president. Okay, he was. He was
Speaker 2: a young man compared to what Joe Biden and Donald
Speaker 2: Trump are. Donald Trump is at the top of his
Speaker 2: game intellectually. You might disagree with everything the guy says,
Speaker 2: but he goes out in handles press conferences. Joe Biden
Speaker 2: couldn't do that. Joe Biden was was past his prime,
Speaker 2: past his prime. But I will deal with that. We
Speaker 2: will die. We will deal with that next week. Again,
Speaker 2: don't get lost in your loyalty to the Republicans or
Speaker 2: the Trump because I've got to keep them all. Honest, Bill,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I agree, I agree with you, and
Speaker 5: I would ask I would ask both of these gentlemen, Okay,
Speaker 5: are you gonna are you gonna get out of the
Speaker 5: Democrat Party because the Democrats Party is going that.
Speaker 2: That's a bridge builder, right there. Sure, you're a United
Speaker 2: States congress from Democratic Party. That's one. That's a question
Speaker 2: that that if I'm a Democrat, I can't absolutely I'm
Speaker 2: gonna join. I'm gonna join I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna join something else. I'm gonna throw away my eight
Speaker 2: years and ten years Bill, Bill, you you're making my job.
Speaker 2: First of all, I can't believe you're asking me those
Speaker 2: questions because all you're doing is you're It's it's like
Speaker 2: when someone has said to you. Have you ever had
Speaker 2: like a name who's come over to you and said, hey, Bill,
Speaker 2: you know, I might have been a little out of
Speaker 2: line when I made that comment to you the other night. Normally,
Speaker 2: you know, if we were talking about the pirates or something,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, Uh, what do you say? I mean
Speaker 2: at that point? Generally, if you're a gentleman, you're gonna say, hey,
Speaker 2: no big deal, you know whatever, Or you could say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a few other things I want to
Speaker 2: throw in your face too. Come on, Bill, you're better
Speaker 2: than that, all right. I gotta go.
Speaker 5: No I'm not like that, but listen, I did well.
Speaker 2: Maybe not in your personal life, but tonight just sound
Speaker 2: like I want to go in for the gill. I
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 5: I want to the politicians. The politicians get to.
Speaker 2: Me, Dan, but obviously got a life, Get a life.
Speaker 2: Keep calling this show, but get a life. Okay. The
Speaker 2: only line is six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
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Speaker 2: By the way, just a quick follow up to Bill's
Speaker 2: stupid question. And it was a stupid question. There are
Speaker 2: people of every category who are racist, okay, but hopefully
Speaker 2: as time goes by, fewer and fewer, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of people are not racists. And do I have a
Speaker 2: couple of callers who I feel happy to be black
Speaker 2: and a racist? Yeah, okay, but I got white callers
Speaker 2: who are how I have my suspicions about. But the
Speaker 2: vast majority of people of all backgrounds, of all colors
Speaker 2: have come to understand that racism is a sin. Okay,
Speaker 2: It's America's original sin. Okay. And people need to understand
Speaker 2: you don't judge people by the color of their skin.
Speaker 2: You judge them, as Martin Luther King said, by the
Speaker 2: content of their character. And Bill, I don't know where
Speaker 2: that question came from, but I think it was insulting.
Speaker 2: It was beneath me, and very disappointed that you would
Speaker 2: even ask me the question, because it makes me think
Speaker 2: that maybe maybe you had some sort of an ulterior motive.
Speaker 2: And I'm very disappointed in the quality of that call.
Speaker 2: I tried to explain to you rationally, Bill, but you
Speaker 2: were irrational tonight, and I'm tired of irrationality amongst my callers.
Speaker 2: Nick is in Winchester, Nick, welcome you. And next on Nightside, Hey, Dan,
Speaker 2: how are you, buddy? Well, I hope you're going to
Speaker 2: be a better caller than Bill. Was a better point.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 7: No, absolutely, I'm full fledged independent, but I concur with
Speaker 7: you and the democratic gentleman from New York. I can't
Speaker 7: agree enough. I mean, especially today with everything going on,
Speaker 7: you know, we need a little bit more stability in
Speaker 7: the more we get, the I think the better off
Speaker 7: people are going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well again, I was pleased when I read this
Speaker 2: article this morning, and the Hero by Lance Reynolds has
Speaker 2: comments that Jake Cochinhaus, a Democratic congressman here from Massachusetts
Speaker 2: made I just think that both parties, the Democrats and
Speaker 2: the Republicans, better beware of the extremists in their and
Speaker 2: the wings of their party because those extremists are alienating
Speaker 2: independent voters like you and me. Exactly, And that's that's
Speaker 2: the premise of my argument here. And uh, you know,
Speaker 2: when you have somebody who's going to become maybe mayor
Speaker 2: of New York City, Uh, and you realize that, uh,
Speaker 2: he has made comments about infatada, the infitata should be global.
Speaker 2: That's frightening. Yeah. And again, a lot of these students
Speaker 2: for justice in Palestine. I want justice for everyone, but exactly,
Speaker 2: you know the same people who are who are yelling,
Speaker 2: you know, from the from the river to the sea.
Speaker 2: I know what that means. I'm not stupid. I know
Speaker 2: exactly what that means. Yeah, and that means obliterate and
Speaker 2: get rid of Israel. And yeah, you know, if you
Speaker 2: don't learn from her history, you're doing to repeat it.
Speaker 2: So have you had talk let's lighten it up a
Speaker 2: little bit. Have you had the experience of walking into
Speaker 2: a you know, a store and wanting to buy, purchase
Speaker 2: a product and realize the product is locked up and
Speaker 2: you have to get an open the product.
Speaker 4: Several times, Walmart target CBS a lot of them.
Speaker 2: And I understand that I do.
Speaker 4: This haidening because I don't know if it's because of
Speaker 4: location or it's just it's fair.
Speaker 5: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, I assume that most of these stores have suffered
Speaker 2: some you know, some loss to to people who feel
Speaker 2: they can go in and do a five finger discount
Speaker 2: and put something in their pocket. But and I also
Speaker 2: know that a lot of the lawyers have told stores
Speaker 2: that they should instruct the employees that even if they
Speaker 2: see someone stealing something, you know, let them go, and
Speaker 2: because they're concerned about liability issues. But I have a
Speaker 2: friend of mine who has a liquor store in you know,
Speaker 2: in West roxby a package store, and he's had kids
Speaker 2: coming in there and just grabbing anything they can grab.
Speaker 2: And you can't. You can't run a business like that.
Speaker 2: The margin on any business is not great. And if
Speaker 2: you're running a madego in a in a poorer community,
Speaker 2: which makes products available to people who might not have
Speaker 2: cars and don't want to travel on the tee, you're
Speaker 2: providing a service to that community. You should be celebrated
Speaker 2: in that community for providing that service, not not become
Speaker 2: the victim of crimes. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad. I see it all the time. I
Speaker 4: saw her two weeks ago at Walmont, I caught two kids. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's okay, yep, I saw I see it at market basket.
Speaker 4: The gentleman just just this past weekend loaded up as
Speaker 4: backpack would meet. So I'm went up front pill the manager. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but we really we didn't see him. I'm like, okay, buddy, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that goes on like that. You know, you lose two, three, four,
Speaker 4: five whatever, it is, one hundred dollars a day. By
Speaker 4: the end of the week, they're gonna fail, you know
Speaker 4: that four or five hundreds now three thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well what the lawyers have told them, okay, and
Speaker 2: I'm a lawyer. The lawyers have said, look, you're greater
Speaker 2: concerned his liability. So if you went up to that
Speaker 2: guy and said, hey, could you open up your.
Speaker 4: Backpack, it turns into a safety issue.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a safety issue. But then also the guy
Speaker 2: that why I just happen to commit there and I
Speaker 2: have a backpack, and now what are you accusing me of?
Speaker 2: And at that point, he's going to get a lawyer.
Speaker 2: They're going to find a lawsuit against market Basket, and
Speaker 2: the market Basket is going to say, look, you know,
Speaker 2: let's pay them a hundred thousand dollars and get rid
Speaker 2: of this case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we don't want to. We don't want them
Speaker 4: back on both fity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. And what happens is we all pay
Speaker 2: for it because whatever the pilfordge loss is on any
Speaker 2: of these stores, it's all going to get passed on
Speaker 2: to us. Ye, Nick, thank you for restoring my faith
Speaker 2: in my callers.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm back. I've had a little sabbatical, but I'm
Speaker 4: back and I'm always grateful to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: Write back at you look forward to your next call. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks,
Speaker 2: good night. I got to keep rolling here. Okay, not
Speaker 2: going to tie people. I'm going to go to Jeff
Speaker 2: and Abington. Jeff, You're next time. That side.
Speaker 8: Well, No, I don't think there was a stupid question
Speaker 8: at all.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was a really stupid question.
Speaker 8: I upset about it.
Speaker 2: Well, why do you think it wasn't a stupid question?
Speaker 8: Tell me, because you try to play the try to
Speaker 8: take a strong stand on a fence all the time.
Speaker 8: You when you you always have to play it both ways?
Speaker 2: How am I playing it both ways?
Speaker 8: Well, every time you will say, well, I agree that
Speaker 8: both saw. I have to have to get them people
Speaker 8: in all.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let me tell you what I said. In
Speaker 2: case you misunderstood what I said.
Speaker 8: What I said was Democrats are evil people.
Speaker 2: The evil that's what you think. Huh, that's what you think.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I don't know how you determine that. But congratulations,
Speaker 2: you're you're a right wing wack a doodle. So rob,
Speaker 2: get the bent, get get the plank you like to swim,
Speaker 2: Have a good night. The Democrats are evil people? What
Speaker 2: do you kid me? You don't what gives you the
Speaker 2: right to make that comment? The Democrats are evil people?
Speaker 2: Six one thirty six one seven. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. I'm gonna go next
Speaker 2: to Ira in Brookline. Irah, welcome you next time. Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for calling in. Go ahead, Ira.
Speaker 9: Yes, a couple of things. I agree very much with
Speaker 9: a lot of things you were saying. And I've also
Speaker 9: had some of the experiences you mentioned really For example,
Speaker 9: there's a CBS which is on the bookline Alston Border.
Speaker 9: I would hardly call that a bad neighborhood. And yet
Speaker 9: the Clareton is locked up?
Speaker 2: Is that is that on what Washington Street?
Speaker 9: Not on Harvard Street, North Harvard?
Speaker 2: Okay, I know where that is now? Yeah, okay, know
Speaker 2: where it is?
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Clarton's locked up over there or restaurant depot.
Speaker 9: Restaurant depot has the pure of an extract locked up.
Speaker 2: Huh. I'm not familiar with restaurant depot, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that Clarenon is something that some people I believe
Speaker 2: you have to almost at this point. There's some of
Speaker 2: those anti histaments that people have used. They buy them
Speaker 2: in quantity and they somehow get high or something like that.
Speaker 2: So that might be a different a reason, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, maybe someone better than me on this,
Speaker 2: but I know that a couple of times stuff that
Speaker 2: used to be over the counter, you could buy it,
Speaker 2: take it off the shelf. I think you have to
Speaker 2: show identification so that you can you can buy it,
Speaker 2: but they want to make sure you're not buying five
Speaker 2: or six packages within a period of a day or
Speaker 2: so if.
Speaker 9: I didn't have to, I wasn't as identification.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well could be wrong in that, but
Speaker 2: I do know that someone out there will know someone
Speaker 2: of who has a pharmalogical background or know it better
Speaker 2: than me. But there was one of those products that
Speaker 2: they were like separating. They were opening the capsules and
Speaker 2: they were then they were crushing it was it was
Speaker 2: a druggie. It's a druggy issue. But when the stuff
Speaker 2: like toothpaste or shampoo, you know, a couple they why
Speaker 2: is that stuff locked up fifteen bucks?
Speaker 9: Is you're right the five million discount? But you were
Speaker 9: also talking about Jake Augenklous, who is of course my congressman,
Speaker 9: being a bookline. Sure, for the most part, I would
Speaker 9: say ogen class has been pretty good. I have to
Speaker 9: say for the most part, because even though you say better,
Speaker 9: we should focus on the good and not play gotcha
Speaker 9: on the ones that they that we disagree on. At
Speaker 9: the same time, I don't want to give anybody a
Speaker 9: free pass when they've done something that we don't agree with.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. I agree on that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Now, I remember a couple of years back, you
Speaker 9: remember that famous January sixth Select Committee in Congress. Sure,
Speaker 9: and Nancy Pelosi kicked off a few of the people
Speaker 9: who the Republicans want to put on that committy. So
Speaker 9: the Republicans played tick for tat and they kicked off somebody,
Speaker 9: a Democrat from the House Foreign Relations Committee. Now it
Speaker 9: wasn't only a matter of revenge or payback. This particular
Speaker 9: person was Washib Talib, who has made very anti American
Speaker 9: comments and of course course poems is real too. And
Speaker 9: there was a vote as to whether or not she
Speaker 9: should stay in the committee. It happened to Republicans were
Speaker 9: in the majority, so they got their way, but the Democrats,
Speaker 9: every one of them, voted to keep her on. And
Speaker 9: with all due respect to Congress and Roman class, if
Speaker 9: he really wants to be independent of the party line,
Speaker 9: that's a particular issue I think he should have been.
Speaker 2: Was he on that committee?
Speaker 9: No? But the point is this was no.
Speaker 2: I said no. What I'm saying is he could he?
Speaker 2: You know again, I guess what I was trying to
Speaker 2: say to Bill in Pennsylvania. It was if someone who
Speaker 2: you disagree with politically, it takes a position that that
Speaker 2: that you now agree with, it's better to try to
Speaker 2: build an alliance in a bridge, as opposed to saying, okay,
Speaker 2: well you agree with me on that, but how come
Speaker 2: Europe you don't agree with me on that. It's sometimes
Speaker 2: if you can, it's it's better to have you know
Speaker 2: someone even you build a bridge on a friendship on
Speaker 2: a friendship. I mean, if I'm a United States congressman
Speaker 2: and I take one hundred votes a year or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you and I agree on ninety eight percent of
Speaker 2: the votes, and there's two that we disagree on, well,
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good percentage. I mean someone was quoted
Speaker 2: as saying, and I think that I forget who it was,
Speaker 2: that that if on twelve out of twelve votes, if
Speaker 2: on nine out of twelve votes you agree with someone,
Speaker 2: support them, But if it's twelve out of twelve votes,
Speaker 2: see a psychiatrist. I mean, you know, that's that's a
Speaker 2: pretty good line, I think. And the idea is that,
Speaker 2: you know, it's in countries around the world that we
Speaker 2: don't particularly like where everybody has to agree. You look
Speaker 2: at Israel, for example, there's a country that is under
Speaker 2: is under siege. It's been under siege for seventy seven
Speaker 2: years since it was founded in mayor forty eight, and
Speaker 2: yet you have a very strong parliamentary system there with
Speaker 2: you have you know, Labor and La Coute and all
Speaker 2: of these other minority parties, and they have to put
Speaker 2: together a coalition government. Yeah, it's you gotta I mean,
Speaker 2: you got it. At some point realized everyone's not going
Speaker 2: to agree with you on everything. And I don't expect
Speaker 2: that here on nightside either. But I get frustrated by
Speaker 2: some of the callers who can't stay focused on what
Speaker 2: we're talking about.
Speaker 9: Well, I can I understand your point. I could appreciate it,
Speaker 9: but again, which items you disagree on A quality one,
Speaker 9: especially there where the respect Congressman oakin class has a
Speaker 9: very large Jewish constituency. I happen to be Jewish, by
Speaker 9: the way, that has very large Jewish constituency, and that
Speaker 9: to leave is just a red flag. That's an issue
Speaker 9: that sticking the call.
Speaker 2: No, I hear you, No, I do I understand the point.
Speaker 2: If he was on the committee and chose and voted
Speaker 2: to keep her on the committee, he's more open to criticism.
Speaker 2: I think the fact that he's just a member of
Speaker 2: Congress and not in that committee, he can be asked
Speaker 2: about it. And I don't know what he would have
Speaker 2: said at the time. I have no idea, but I'm
Speaker 2: not going to necessarily bring that up with him. And
Speaker 2: we talked to him next next week. Yeah, at that point,
Speaker 2: it's like if we invite him to come on and
Speaker 2: talk about subject why and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: where as you know, Bill wanted me to ask him
Speaker 2: about so many other subjects. Anyway, you're a rational guy.
Speaker 2: You got to call my show more often. Okay.
Speaker 9: I have called a couple of times. If you have
Speaker 9: another minute or two, I'm sorry that I missed. I
Speaker 9: tried calling. I just missed when you had that Boss
Speaker 9: Globe columbistone because I checked just about all the boxes
Speaker 9: that you were talking about. I was born in Brooklyn,
Speaker 9: I lived there as a young man. I am Jewish.
Speaker 9: I'm also the former a former political editor of the
Speaker 9: Brooklyn Daily Bolton and my sons live in the heart
Speaker 9: of the Jewish community in Bumba Park.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we'll have her. We'll have her on again,
Speaker 2: and I please be you know, we we had lines available,
Speaker 2: so there's no reason if the lines were packed. From
Speaker 2: the moment she got on, I'd say, gee, you know
Speaker 2: what time are you trying to call?
Speaker 9: I would ask I called late because I was in
Speaker 9: the car.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but but here's the thing. Call early.
Speaker 2: I got to get one more call in here.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, Rank here.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I thank you much appreciate it. Mike, we're
Speaker 2: tied on time. I'll give you about a minute.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, yeah quickly.
Speaker 10: I know. Yeah, a rough night tonight, and listen to it. Anyway,
Speaker 10: the locking up stuff like that, I think it's still
Speaker 10: the Castle's vale system. Dan delimited, the people that cl
Speaker 10: ims go quickly slap on the wrists, not prosecuting on
Speaker 10: I know in New York there's a nine hundred and
Speaker 10: nine hundred dollars lending with all that they well.
Speaker 2: They've raised, they've raised, Yeah, they've raised the limits here.
Speaker 2: That's a good point you've made here in Boston. Remember
Speaker 2: when Rachel Rawlins came into office, she said that they
Speaker 2: were not going to prosecute theft of whatever the figure was,
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars or something. You can steal a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of candy bars, and you can steal
Speaker 2: a lot of uh packages of toothpaste, toobs of toothpaste,
Speaker 2: and shampoo before you get to eight hundred dollars. And
Speaker 2: if if they're not going to prosecute it, then what
Speaker 2: are the store rods supposed to do. It's a dilemma, Mike,
Speaker 2: great point. Thanks, I'm glad you get out. Here comes
Speaker 2: the eleven, we'll be back. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: the news conference today that was conducted by the Chairman
Speaker 2: of the Joint chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kane. Interesting.
Speaker 2: I hope you'll stick with us.